Looks like they are really going to promote this , with Brennan expecting 60,000 . Tickets on sale already . Any ideas who the " major musical act " will be ?
Need you ask!?
It will be the one and only Brush Shiels, a credit to the country..... ::)
They will be done under the trade descriptions act ::)
Will be hard to get 45,000 "summer" fans in the depth of winter , maybe the GAA have a very clever plan ::)
I dunno.
I think they'll get 60K with little problem.
I'd be surprised if they didnt get a very large crowd !
I certainly will be going !
The fact that it's the first floodlit game at Croke Park is sure to entice a sizeable neutral crowd - if only to be part of the history of the event.
I certainly hope to be at the game, if only for the historical significant like Star Spangler said. Afterward, that's why the game is being staged at Croke Park in the first place.
QuoteAny ideas who the " major musical act " will be
Philomena Begley and Brush in a duet to balance things up.
Quote from: Tubberman on December 13, 2006, 03:29:20 PM
Need you ask!?
It will be the one and only Brush Shiels, a credit to the country..... ::)
Ah f**k, was definitely going to go till u said this...
only fifeen notes for a ticket as well, nice one! ;D
yep i will book myself in, ah good old brush sheils, he had the place fairly rocking at the half time interval, at the international rules series a few months ago.
only €15 yo yo's - good deal so.
i think for once i might turn up late! :P
I'll be in castlebar to watch the replay of the AIF
Quote from: armaghniac on December 13, 2006, 04:43:01 PM
QuoteAny ideas who the " major musical act " will be
Philomena Begley and Brush in a duet to balance things up.
Rumour has it that it could be Margo
on her sex aids tour. :-*
Quote from: dodo on December 13, 2006, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 13, 2006, 04:43:01 PM
QuoteAny ideas who the " major musical act " will be
Philomena Begley and Brush in a duet to balance things up.
Rumour has it that it could be Margo on her sex aids tour. :-*
Flameboy will be there then!
Just looking on Ticketmaster - Jaysus those bastards annoy the shite outta me €2.95 handling charge per adult ticket and €1.00 per juvenile. No answerf rom the Croker Ticket office only a recorded message directing you to the website.
The handling charge from the Croker Ticket Office was nearly as bad as ticketmaster for the International Rules. ::) Will the tickets be on sale through the clubs does anyone know???
QuoteAny ideas who the " major musical act " will be ?
U2 apparently! ;)
Can't be as bad as when we went to see Celtic v AC Milan and the Undertones were billed as the warm-up.
We were in the upper-stand behind the goals when the announcer roared out "GIVE IT UP FOR THE ONE AND ONLY UNDERTONES!!!"
Then we heard a tinny rendition of Teenage Kicks and everyone was staring down at the empty pitch going "Where the feck are they?????"
After the song finished we realised they were behind the nets at the opposite end! The sound was awful and the whole thing was a complete joke.
Clubs will get allocations too.
Did anyone get any descent tickets from ticketmaster or where they all near the corners?
The ones on sale since Christmas has been in the sections nearest Hill 16 corners on both stands.
Do most of the descent tickets go to the clubs or do the GAA sell them directly from headquarters?
I've heard that all the tickets on ticketmaster.ie will be for the corners. The good tickets will be coming to the clubs in both counties.
And rightly so!
Don't know about that lads, if they're only expecting 60k the upper corners wont fill up, i've got decent tickets from ticketmaster before.
Quote from: tayto on January 03, 2007, 02:50:19 PM
Don't know about that lads, if they're only expecting 60k the upper corners wont fill up, i've got decent tickets from ticketmaster before.
As far as I know, Croke Park are expecting a full house to this game. For two reasons...
a) Tyrone -v- Dublin (the best of games, or the worst of games)
b) Historic first floodlit game at Croke Park.
With that in mind all clubs in Ireland, especially in Dubline and Tyrone, will get the best tickets and that ticketmaster.ie will be getting the corners.
Clubs in Tyrone have already been asked to provide their numbers for tickets for the next meeting. For a match like this the clubs will be the main source of tickets. I know people who bought tickets on the web before Christmas and they were not good ones.
I think it will draw a big crowd. There is the thing about the first floodlit match in Croke and the fact that it is on a Sat night should also draw a crowd. Also the juvenole tickets are £5 to encourage the younger supporters to go
As far as i can remember throw in is at 7 o clock which means it will be over in good time for the pubs. Can see a big weekend in Dublin for the Tyrone supporters
The best tickets are normally available directly from Croke Park but apparently these won't be going on sale until the middle of January.
I'm intending on going as well. Think it will be jammed myself. I know a fair few Dubs who usually only watch on TV who are defo going.
It's been announced that The Saw Doctor's will be providing the music at this historic game next month.
the fuckin sawdoctors, now i'm definately turning up late. ::)
Quote from: tayto on January 14, 2007, 08:36:50 PM
i'm definately turning up late. ::)
Spoken like a true Dub ;)
Only one road for it then - N17, where the grass is green.
Good to see GAA HQ adhering to Harte's suggestions last year and are jazzing this tie to the max. Should be some occasion.
Quote from: ONeill on January 14, 2007, 09:19:04 PM
Good to see GAA HQ adhering to Harte's suggestions last year and are jazzing this tie to the max. Should be some occasion.
Yea! I read an advertising campaign starts tomorrow on TV.
The Sawdoctors - class. Looks like I'm destined to be sitting in one of the corners but feck it - it will be great.
Jaysus..."the sawdoctors".....that should really get the crowd in early. They'd get a bigger crowd to see them in Whelans. Brace yourself for a delayed throw in again.........at least I hope so .....just to piss off messrs Brennan and McKenna and start the year off on a happy note!
they'd get a bigger crowd in Timbuctu- a very much delayed start i fear.
SELL OUT EXPECTED. 30k tickets sold by DCB and 30k plus sold by ticketmaster.Everyone it would seem is going.
Pity about the Sawdoctors though. Not really a band too popular in the East coast, or the North of Ireland ( I presume). Heard a rumour some weeks ago that a tribute band was going to play but obviously I was misinformed.
Millenium Stadium has had Tom Jones for one of their games and imo it is a pity that they have chosen the pseudo diddly idle music for the occasion.
Quoteimo it is a pity that they have chosen the pseudo diddly idle music for the occasion.
Agreed - what a shower!!
Quote from: paddypastit on January 15, 2007, 11:10:26 PM
Quoteimo it is a pity that they have chosen the pseudo diddly idle music for the occasion.
Agreed - what a shower!!
Yeah the should of asked aslan to play :P
Quote from: Gnevin on January 16, 2007, 02:09:36 AM
Quote from: paddypastit on January 15, 2007, 11:10:26 PM
Quoteimo it is a pity that they have chosen the pseudo diddly idle music for the occasion.
Agreed - what a shower!!
Yeah the should of asked aslan to play :P
Oh jesus, worse again. The idea of music beforehand just makes me feel kinda ill, it's turning into a circus and we really need to go well in the league this year. we've an awkward trip to limerick the following weekend and really need to win one or both of these games.
What's the ticket situation like among the Tyrone clubs lads? I don't think there has been that big a demand from within our own club.
Well I know we are ordering ~50-60 tickets, so it would be decent enough compared to 'normal' NL games.
Got my own few tickets from ticketmaster. Reasonably central but upstairs. No lower tier tickets left.
Is this the GAA fondly imaginig it's fulfilling its remit of promoting 'Irish Culture'. Apart from the question of who wants to hear any music, saw-doctored or artane-banded at a football match, what are the selection criteria here?
Here's a little competition: place these performers in order of the authenticity of their representation of 'Irish Culture':
The Saw Doctors
Foster and Allen
The Artane marching-up-and-down-kids
Brush Shields
First prize - a free ticket to Johnny Carroll and His Golden Trumpet at the Slua Muirí Hall, Drumsnot, for one night only.
Second prize - you guessed it.
The Saw Doctors are a huge step up from Brush Shields in fairness.
Not mcuh consolation magpie - bit like saying Ronan Keating is a step up from Shane Lynch. Hallf hour delay i'd say.
Anyone like to hazard a guess at the starting 15 for Dublin? early doors yet but it's good to be getting these extra O'Byrne cup games under the ol'belt.
Full back: Will he stick with O'Shea or McConnell (assuming his suspesion is over) at 3 or bring back Cahill (who in his couple of appearances this year so far has played half back)? Corner backs should be Griffin and Henry.
Half back: You'd think at least one and maybe both of Casey and Goggins will retain their places to ensure we're able to match (and more) Tyrone if they start with the niggly stuff again. Presumably Colin Moran is considered an automatic starter given Pillar appointed him captain. Bryan Cullen was unanmiounsly considered Dublin's best half back last year. Barry Cahill has established himself as an automatic starter, so if he's not in the full back line, then he'll be in the half back line. Ger Brennan has apparently made a very successful start to his Dublin career at half back in the recent games. So 6 players worthy of a start, but only 3 places. So I've no idea what he'll end up doing. I think its very likely that at least one of them will start in the half forward line. Casey, Goggins and Cullen have all appeared in the HF line this year. I hope its not Cullen and I cant imagine the other two as forwards!!
Midfield: Straight choice between Darren Magee, Declan O'Mahoney and Shane Ryan. Pillar has never been afraid to drop or rest Shane so he could well give O'Mahoney his big chance and hold Shane in reserve. Or he could decide it would be best to wait for one week to do that and let Ryan loose on Tyrone. ??
Half forward: I think he'll go with a half back, Alan Brogan and either Lally or Bonner. My gut says he's goina give Lally a good run in the league at half forward (but I've no good reason to say that).
Full forward: Quinn and Vaughan are both injured at the moment, so are doubtful. Even if they get close to recovery by then, theyll have played no football and it would be a risk to play them so soon after injury, especially as I believe both have leg injuries that would presumably be put at further risk by taking frees. So perhaps 19 year old Dermot Connolly will be thrown right into the deep end, as both corner forward and free-taker. Sometimes you have to take a gamble when its the only option. Keaney will certainly play and help out with the free-taking. No sign of Jason this year, but Dotsie's performances so far means he merits a run of league starts. Bernard Brogan has missed out on getting a chance in the O'Byrne Cup because of his involvement with DCU, so I'd say it'll mean bench at best for him.
Agree about the half backs, we've a whole shed load of players whos best position is in te half back line, much as i'd prefer to see cullen at 6 the thought of casey or goggins in the forwards is not good.
I've yet to be really impressed with Lally for dublin, again i think he's a better half back, so maybe this should be his chance but i wouldnt have himself and bonner at the same time in the half forwards.
Agree that b brogan has probably losto ut due to playing for DCU, i'd really like to see him get a run in the corner during the league, like you say i'd hold connolly in reserve for now, the last thing he needs is a league debut against tyrone. Dotsy has to have a shot int he other corner.
Is whelan giving the league a miss or is that just rumour? Otherwise it's O'Mahoney and D.Magee i'd say, although surely Shane Ryan has to be involved.
Vaughan did in his shoulder in the Lucan match, i think that's what still has him out, heard his recovery was ahead of schedule so he should be back soon, but probably not in time for tyrone.
Whats the story with Jayo?
QuoteCasey and Goggins will retain their places to ensure we're able to match (and more) Tyrone if they start with the niggly stuff again
Aw jayz, are yous going to start the "it was all Tyrone's fault" story again??? ::)
What about Collie Moran ?
Good point, i think Goggins could lose out to Moran, unless he's going to move Cullen again.
I hope pillar names his strongest 15 ie Ryan starting for this match and then play about in Limerick ,as this match will be a big challenge where as Limerick should be easier and a match in which to blood new players , They don't really need to start in front of 65,000 + hype match
Whats the stroy with car clamping at night lads? Will this be a factor?
No, not a factor. Unless you've a Northern reg.
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 17, 2007, 01:43:37 PM
Whats the stroy with car clamping at night lads? Will this be a factor?
Hard to tell in reality. I guess the chances are the same as a Sunday afternoon, but at least you've less chance of being clamped than if it was a Saturday afternoon. Pay and display ends at 7pm - but if you're parked illegally (e.g. on a path) there'll always be small risk that some miserable cant will try and ruin your evening.
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 17, 2007, 01:43:37 PM
Whats the stroy with car clamping at night lads? Will this be a factor?
Try not parking on the N1 that normally helps . I recommend parking some where official as the clamper's will be out in force but most of the street parking finishs at 7 so you'd only need to put in a few euro
Any word if the Park and Ride bus service will be in place for the 2007 Championship?
Has a starting time for the game been announced yet?
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on January 17, 2007, 03:08:21 PM
Has a starting time for the game been announced yet?
7.30pm according to the GAA website. The same for all the evening games.
EDIT - GAA website is wrong. Hill16.ie says its 7pm
Possible team:
Cluxton
Griffen O'Se Henry
Brennan Cullen Moran
O'Mahony Magee
Connolly Brogan Lally
Keaney Bonnar O'Callaghan
Bench
Casey, Ryan, Goggins, Brogan, Cahill, Murray
Big questions are:
1 - Will Shaughnessy/Christie be back soon?
2 - When is Whelan coming back (good to give him a break IMHO)
3 - When will Vaughan, Quinn, Sherlock be back?
In my view this is not the game to throw the new players in. We need the experienced heads for this game. as tyrone are likely to wind the new players up. The expectations on Connolly are ridiculous at this stage- and i don't believe it would be agood move to have him as the freetaker for this game. Would make far more sense to start them against Limerick the following week. The reality is Dublin have to beat Tyrone considering some of the players tyrone are missing- If we can't beat them without the likes of o neill and mc guigan -then it doesn't bode well.
O Shaughnessy is training with the squad- hasn't been selected
Christie is doing a thesis - probbaly a few more weeks yet
Whelan trained last night for the first time.
Vaughan won't be back till 2/3rd week of Feb
Sherlock is back -hasn't been selected
Quinn has a groin problem -that doesn't bode well long-term because i believe it's similar to the problem Collie Morna had. He may be back for the Tyrone game- one hopes it isn't going to be a persistent problem .
I agree that this is not the sort of fixture to be throwing in a 19 year old, the last thing Connolly needs is to be coming up against the likes of Ryan McMeniman [dunno if he'll be playing but you know what I mean]. I hear Whelo is back training so that's good news, i'd like Caffery to try a couple of things in the league but to field as strong a team as possible with one or two new faces getting a real run. Mind you with the likes of Mossy, jayo and Vaughan possibly out maybe he'llhave to try things around. Tyrone seem to be going really well in the McKenna cup so no matter what team they field we'll have a real game on our hands. hmmm we'll know more after wicklow on sunday anyway i suppose, another decent return from Connolly and Dotsy and they'll be very hard to leave out.
Josey, if Quinn is fit I'm sure he'll play v Tyrone rather than Connolly. But if he's not fit (and Vaughan also injured), there does not seem to be much option but to play Connolly, and use him as a freetaker. Or would you be prepared to rely on Keaney and Dotsie taking frees from the hands? Or do you have other options?
It seems that Whelan is resuming training with the Dubs. This is much earlier than expected - I'd say the lure of playing the league opener in front of a packed Croke Park helped change his mind about giving the league a miss.....
Is Sherlock out injured or just taking a break?
I think quinn will play aginst tyrone- that's why he hasn't been involved to date because they are trying to get him fit for that. It's hard enough making your debut but then throw place kicking on top of that- i think it's asking alot but as you say there may be no choice. Bernard Brogan is player you all seem to be forgetting- he was excellent for a heavily depleted DCU team against Dublin and in my view should start aginst tyrone. He was the best club forward in the county last year and he deserves a run. He also kicks frees from the hands with his right foot with keaney the other side but like i said i think quinn will be back.
Sherlock is back training tayto but i doubt he'll start against tyrone and i doubt whelan will either. Don't forget Shane Ryan either- best player we had last eyar and it's amazing how short some people's memories are.
This young and talented football team from Tyrone will lack many of the recognised names and whilst they have been impressive in the Mc Kenna cup, I simply couldnt see them get the win against possibly the All Ireland Champions in waiting. The Dubs I hope bring all their positivity to the game and excitement and not what they brought to Omagh last year. Its a big challenge for all to keep if football, but my fear is that there will be 2 many youngsters on this Tyrone team. I think the Dubs are the only county capable of beating Tyrone in a big game this year, and in fairness they are probably due it. BTW will Tyrone get a chance to train in CP at night before the big event. Dublin by 4.
I'm not forgetting b.borgan at all, just his involvment with DCU in the o'Byrne cup means he's not had the chance to impress in the last game and against wicklow, we all know that Caffery dosent like to change a winning team too much. He definately deserves a real go in the league as well, by real i mean start a few games, not come of for ten minutes here and there, has the potential to be every bit as good as his brother.
No way are you giving us the favorites tag just like that redhandfan! :P
Dublin should EASILY dispense of a Tyrone team so young without the influences of 4 of the best players in their postions in Ireland. O'Neill, Dooher, McGuigan & Gormley. Dubs by 5.
I agree realredhandfan, lets be honest tyrone defeated a weak queens side and all in all a weak derry side. Having said that, tyrone put together two sound preformances with alot of the new recruits showing nice touches. I think this year is massive for dublin, and i could only assume that the effort going in this year will be somthing serious..Id expect dublin to beat theis young inexperieced tryone side although it will give us a good insight as to how the lads can cope at this pace.
Heres my team,
Mc Connel
D Carlin
Mc Ginley
D Mc Caul
Davy Harte
Gormley (Pending Fitness)
Ricey
Cavanagh
K Hughes
T Mc Guigan
G Cavlan (Is In the panel & going well think)
Cavanagh Jr
Penrose
Mulligan
P Rouse/N Gormley
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 18, 2007, 10:47:05 AM
Dublin should EASILY dispense of a Tyrone team so young without the influences of 4 of the best players in their postions in Ireland. O'Neill, Dooher, McGuigan & Gormley. Dubs by 5.
i dunno lads, Dublin won't be at full strength either and we're prone to bouts of inconsistency at this time of year, plus you know as well as i do that some of those youngsters coming through for Tyrone have serious potential, a lot will depend on how they cope with the occasion.
My hope, and the hope of the nation, is that these two teams, prone to controversy, represent the Games with decorum.
50,000 tickets gone already , Saw Doctors must have more fans than I thought . Have the AD's started on the TV yet ? Sell out under lights should be some craic .
On the assumption that none of the longterm injuriesie. Dooher, Gormley, Mcguigan, Gormley, Holmes, Gourley or Cavlan are fit my pick for Dublin would look like
1.McConnell
2.Ricey 3.C McGinley or Joe McMahon 4.McGee
5.D Harte 6.Enda McGinley 7.D Carlin
8.Kevin Hughes 9.S Cavanagh
10.T McGuigan 11.Mugsy 12.R Mellon
13.Penrose or N Gormley 14.P Rouse 15.A McCarron
C McGinley's lack of mobility worries me so if fit I'd put in Joe Mc.
Reckon that Enda Mc would do a great job sweeping-up and starting plays at no.6 until Gormley returns
Although the Full Forward line lacks experience, the new guys have all looked good so far and very few experienced options exist. Think that big Rouse has the potential to bring a slightly different dimension to the attacks and would keep Mugsy in the centre had a big game their against derry.
Still a strong team as they seem to have relative sharpness at the moment, they diffently won't get a hiding
Quote from: downredblack on January 18, 2007, 11:20:04 AM
50,000 tickets gone already , Saw Doctors must have more fans than I thought . Have the AD's started on the TV yet ? Sell out under lights should be some craic .
Yeah see one last nite it was crap
Quote from: forkinknife on January 18, 2007, 11:02:06 AM
My hope, and the hope of the nation, is that these two teams, prone to controversy, represent the Games with decorum.
If that statement was any more sanctimonious, it would probably have to come from the mouth of G W Bush. What you really mean is - I hope there'll be a dusting match so I can be the first to point the finger.
Will the All Stars trip have any effect on the Tyrone crew? I think they're due back around 29 Jan, just a few days before the game.
The sight and atmosphere of the hill 16 packed to the rafters at night will be glorious. I wish I could be there... btw is this match being put on TV not internet Tv which I can watch in a pub in London, which Im told is...... :( :'( - a shopping mecca for da ladies...
Well said over the bar!!
Should be interesting game. Dublin will def be well up for it to show they are real contenders this year. And Tyrone will be keen to try and put all events of 2006 behind them!!
Will enjoy seeing a few of the younger ones getting a chance as a few of the older heads like Dooher, O Neill and McGuigan will be missing. That was the problem last year we didn't have any surprises on the bench that we could bring on in a tight spot.
Not too sure about Rouse playing at full forward. Tyrone's game plan was playing the running ball and giving the ball into the spaces for players to run into. I'm not sure if the gameplan will adapt enough to have a big target man as i would be kinda worried about how quick Rouse would be in the space of Croke Park!! But it would be great if it did succeed. ( Course we'd have to listen to then cute Kerry wans telling us we're just copying them!!) It would give us another option to our game plan.
Cant wait should be good!!
QuoteThe sight and atmosphere of the hill 16 packed to the rafters at night will be glorious.
I doubt if the Hill will be packed like in a championship game 'cos when it's not full it doesnt look at all as impressive. I hope I am proved wrong but on a cold February nite I just can't see it happening.
The closer the game gets, the more disapponted I am that I won't be able to attend. I'll be in cardiff - hoping in vain that some pub has managed to get Setanta Ireland.
Tyrone's conveyor belt of talent is scary. Still it is a game Dublin should win. But "should" is a lot different from doing, especially as there'll be more pressure on the Dubs.
I do feel that we're destined to meet again in the championship.
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 18, 2007, 12:55:08 PM
QuoteThe sight and atmosphere of the hill 16 packed to the rafters at night will be glorious.
I doubt if the Hill will be packed like in a championship game 'cos when it's not full it doesnt look at all as impressive. I hope I am proved wrong but on a cold February nite I just can't see it happening.
I'm not sure if it's true but i heard hill tickets are hard enough to come by, might be better of standing on a cold night then sitting in the stands.
have the dublin school kids received thousands of free/highly reduced price tickets? the number of kids at the aussie rules was a nightmare for stewards all wanting to sit beside their friends and their mentors would only assist by saying "we have that ticket as well some people have still to come in"
Hound
With a squad including
Goals - Cluxton, Leonard
Full back line - Griffen, Henry, Shaughnessy, Cahill, Christie, O'Se
Half backs - Cullen, Casey, Moran, Goggins, Brennan, Magee
Mid-field - Whelan, Ryan, Magee, O'Mahony
Half forwards - Lally, Brogan, Cosgrove, Bonner, Connolly, Murray
Full forwards - Quinn, Sherlock, Keaney, Brogan, O'Callaghan, Vaughan
and with only Christie/Whelan/Goggins/Magge being old out of that it isn't bad for talent...
word is that Moran will be CHB for dublin with cullen at FB.
no? ... really .... :-\
I couldn't see them moving Cullen that far back - would take him too much out of the play I would think...
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on January 18, 2007, 01:46:45 PM
I couldn't see them moving Cullen that far back - would take him too much out of the play I would think...
I wouldnt put him there either, I'd also have cullen at chb before moran
but they will be tried in these positions - or so someone said to me.
Then again someone else could be taking the p**s out of him.
The originator of the source would usually have a bit of an insight into the team selection.
Also Paddy Christie is fit and raring to go this season.
If Paddy is fit stop the messing and throw him back in for the league, he's still only 31. cullen is far too important going forward to stick in at 3 in my opinion, not tight enough either.
if fit enough - PC is the best CHB in Dublin.
Still wouldnt even try Cullen at FB though
Not a chance of cullen playing full back. Pillar wouldnt waste his talent there. O Shea or cahill will be full back, more than likey o'shea if he plays well in the next 2 o'byrne cup games :P
NOTE: Throw-in time is 7.00pm (according to DCB website), not 7.30 as was indicated previously on this thread.
Neither Ciaran Whelan nor Jason Sherlock were training with the Dubs in Santry last night (according to my eye witness report!)
whelan got a scan on his jaw the other day- still recovering from that. none of the skerries players will be involved tomorrow- they are playing for their club onn sunday.
christie also won't be involved until march when his masters is over and by then it could be too late-hopefully he'll be added to teh squad then.
Is it being televised live?
In answer to my own question (!) it's being covered live exclusively by Setanta.
Can't wait for this game....leaving JFK on Friday evening at 7:00 p.m.
land in Dublin at 7:00 a.m., head over to Jones Road, Jury's Croke Park,
take a short nap, up for lunch, first the solids followed by the liquids,
into Croker for the historic match under flood lights, out for a few,
then back on a plane to JFK the next morning at 11:00 a.m.
TÍR EOGHAIN PHILADELPHIA ABÚ!
QuoteCan't wait for this game....leaving JFK on Friday evening at 7:00 p.m.
land in Dublin at 7:00 a.m., head over to Jones Road, Jury's Croke Park,
take a short nap, up for lunch, first the solids followed by the liquids,
into Croker for the historic match under flood lights, out for a few,
then back on a plane to JFK the next morning at 11:00 a.m.
As punch would say that's the way to do it!
Should be some match!
TÍR EOGHAIN PHILADELPHIA ABÚ!
Watched the Dubs this weekend. They look like a side fiercely determined to do well this year, and that's just the guts of the 2nd team.
No doubt they'll fold though when the going gets tough during the hotter days.
Any word on Whelan's progress? Always fear him when on form. For those 15 mins.
Hopefully Mugsy (if he plays) will maintain his goal-scoring form against the DDs
You'll have to try harder then that to get a rise out of anyone. :P
Quote from: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 11:34:37 PM
Watched the Dubs this weekend. They look like a side fiercely determined to do well this year, and that's just the guts of the 2nd team.
No doubt they'll fold though when the going gets tough during the hotter days.
Any word on Whelan's progress? Always fear him when on form. For those 15 mins.
Hopefully Mugsy (if he plays) will maintain his goal-scoring form against the DDs
O'Neill are you Paul Caffrey in disguise? I don't think he could have asked for better motivational material than your spake. I fear your post could end up in the Dublin dressing room.
I doubt the dublin team would get motivated by some loser's post on a message board in all fairness.
Quote from: tayto on January 21, 2007, 11:50:52 PM
I doubt the dublin team would get motivated by some loser's post on a message board in all fairness.
You'll have to try harder then that to get a rise out of anyone. :P
I just hope I don't suffer the same fate as Morrison - a watery shoulder charge from behind (although the end result was a first 20 mins of panic and ultimately a lost game!).
By the way, why wasn't Pillar hauled over the coals for that by the guards for assault? Some feckin example that boy.
true but then again tyrone people always have the squeaky clean Gerard Cavlan to hold up as an example to all those budding stars up there.
What are you saying Josey?
Quote from: never kickt a ball on January 21, 2007, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: tayto on January 21, 2007, 11:50:52 PM
I doubt the dublin team would get motivated by some loser's post on a message board in all fairness.
You'll have to try harder then that to get a rise out of anyone. :P
Twochey! ;D
anyone know where I could get two tickets for the Dubs v Tyrone game.
Two friends want to go and my local club have no more to give out
yeah right Lynchboy!!! :D
Seen the ad campaign RTÉ and the GAA are running for this game last night. Very erm.... flashy!
Eh, ticketmaster?
Quote from: tayto on January 22, 2007, 11:06:26 AM
Eh, ticketmaster?
still available ?
Great - will give this a go
thanks (I didnt want to have to go through ticketmaster as normally the seats on sale are for the corners etc and are not the best views - but if the lads want tickets- then beggers cant be choosers).
Met a Carrickmore Girl, who would know by the way, and she informed me that Conor Gormley looks likely to be fit for this game. Reports of his ankle being broke were of the mark, in fact it was his leg, and he did have a broken leg in fact
I hear Collie Holmes is back trainin wth club and county. will he play any part against the Dubs? or will Harte leave it to a later date?
I like Holmes, not neccessarily as a first teamer but he always matches his opponent, whilst previous spells at full back have not been that successful I believe that he may well have the power to take Keiran donaghy this year, could he match Brogan, No but I would like to have a look at the hub in full back for the role.
Great Mulligan Goals Versus Dublin:
1) 2005 All Ireland quarter final. At this point the Dubs have Tyrone in the bag. Tyrone are fighting but they need inspiration. Steven O neills clever flick up under the Cusack stand is missed by the camera but is seen by Mulligan... Mulligan is also seen by O Neill, as he passes to the forward who was experiencing a dip in form to that point. the ball sticks to his hand despite 2 attempts to pass it - even the Dublin defence watch amazed - a higher authority perhaps, trigger pulled.. bang... a goal that outshone his peroxide locks. The goal entered the realms of greatness and saved tyrones bacon against a wonderful Dublin team and crowd.
2)Omagh National league 2004:
Mulligan gains possesssion on a bright winters day and bears in on the Dublin Goal from some 50 meters. He takes a couple of seriously flawed tackles but speeds on. As the races towards the goal Cluxton advance but all too late as Mulligan delivers a shot to show future intent.
3) Championship replay 2005. What a way for a couragaeous Dublin fghtback to end. O Neill and an overworked Dooher thread the ball through a Dublin defence and transfer to the now hot mulligan. As the hill gasps Mulligan nicks the ball past Cluxton and stands up to face the hill, no wild celebrations from the new all star - no booing from the massive Dublin support, just a large dose of mutual respect. The Dubs went home for the year, Mulligan had a few things left to do in Croke Park that Autumn.
3 - Cavanagh set up Mulligan in the replay from a misplaced kick out.
2- The league goal was 05
1 - And it's Stephen O'Neill
Typical of the fairweather supporters in the north.
yeah but hes at work, he didnt have time to get out of bed and check the dvd's
Ye cheeky dub ye ;D
Apologies for my mistakes, I wouldnt be the shiniest saw in the toolbox.
either way he seems to save his best for dublin, the swine! :P
Fingers crossed ther'll be another one for the charts Tayto eh!!!
One? Ah come on realredhandfan, hopefully a few ;)
The only scoring Mugalligan will be doing will be with Mickey's daughter again.
And this time boys, make some noise.
Who's Mugalligan?
Mulligan. OK i've been drinking but thats normal for monadys.
Mugalligan?
Sounds like some sort of Dublin crime Lord.
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 22, 2007, 02:46:03 PM
Fingers crossed ther'll be another one for the charts Tayto eh!!!
I was kinda hoping he'd leave it for 2007, I like him though, think the hill bring out the best in him and you've got to admire that in a player.
(//)
Should this not be on the National League 2007 thread? Joke.. ba bum tish!
The hill Id imagine would be the most intimidating crowd experience imaginable to a forward in GAA, and even a top forward would have good and bad days under that type of pressure. A sensible man wouldnt do to much celibrating as it could come back to bite him. Having said that theres nothing more exciting in Gaelic football than Cosgrove or Sherlock banging one in under the hill and jumping onto the fence. Its Dublins hill, its tradition in the GAA, as opposition you'll always be welcome on it, but what Mayo did last year I wouldnt agree with, albeit it worked for them. As far as neutral games go, In 2003 the Armagh team tried to take the hill off the Tyrone team before the game and there was a few men left with bruised egos and bottoms. They now say many of that Armagh team are finished, over the hill.
Floodlit tie to set new record attendance
- from Setanta.com
A new record attendance for a National League game will be set when Dublin meet Tyrone in next month's historic switching-on of Croke Park's new floodlights.
The current record attendance for a National League game was set in 2003 when Dublin and Armagh drew 53, 000 to Croke Park.
Over 60, 000 tickets have now been sold for the Division 1A opener between the Blues and the O'Neill County at Headquarters.
The tie, which has been the subject of a huge media marketing campaign, may even attract a full house (82, 300) to the Jones' Road venue with a carnival atmosphere the order of the day.
A formal ceremony will mark the switching-on of the new lights, which will also be used for International rugby and soccer matches later in the year.
"The GAA have confirmed that in excess of 60,000 tickets have now been issued for the meeting of Dublin and Tyrone in the Allianz National football league at Croke Park on Saturday, February 3rd," read a GAA statement.
"The remaining tickets are currently on sale through the normal county board and club sources in the participating counties, from the GAA Website, through Ticketmaster Outlets Nationwide and in the Croke Park area from McCaughey's Shop on Clonliffe Road, Benny's in Emmet Street and the Skylon Hotel."
The cost of illuminating Croke Park was a fraction over €5 million with the Irish government contributing €3.65m.
The Dublin-Tyrone clash will be shown exclusively live on Setanta Ireland at 7.00pm on Saturday 3 February.
Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances, I will not be able to attend the game. I'm gutted about that :(
Im in London shopping ffs, devastated, Will there be pubs in London showing this game, I can bring a crowd of about 10 people to the winning pub, and they'll drink the river dry if ye can show the game.
Quote from: Blue Boy on January 22, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
Floodlit tie to set new record attendance
- from Setanta.com
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The tie, which has been the subject of a huge media marketing campaign, may even attract a full house (82, 300) to the Jones' Road venue with a carnival atmosphere the order of the day.
I've notice this figure a couple of times isnt the capacity 82,500 what happened to the other 200?
The Artane Boys band were never counted in the initial crowd reckoning, but they still took seats.
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 22, 2007, 04:14:22 PM
Im in London shopping ffs, devastated, Will there be pubs in London showing this game, I can bring a crowd of about 10 people to the winning pub, and they'll drink the river dry if ye can show the game.
Shopping! schoolboy error there redhandfan!
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 22, 2007, 04:25:08 PM
The Artane Boys band were never counted in the initial crowd reckoning, but they still took seats.
So shouldn't the figure be higher again ? If it was 82,500 when they where't counted shouldn't it be 82,550 when you count them
i think they had to do some work which reduced the capacity, not 100% sure what it was tho.
Possibly larger advertisng hoardings around the field meaning some seats have obstructed view??
Quote from: tayto on January 22, 2007, 04:39:48 PM
i think they had to do some work which reduced the capacity, not 100% sure what it was tho.
Didn't they put a tunnel into the Hogan Davin corner that wasn't there originally? Something to do with Health & Safety for the U2 concert if memory serves...
Yea, that sound familiar, an extra fire escape or something.
Well, i'll be there. Staying in a(n) hotel close to the ground. Any more word on the gadderin?
A steward told me the last day I was there , that they have a rake of seats on the ground level for people who cant hack it upstairs . Dont know how many that would be but he did tell me" not to go telling everyone" ;)
QuoteA steward told me the last day I was there , that they have a rake of seats on the ground level for people who cant hack it upstairs . Dont know how many that would be but he did tell me" not to go telling everyone"
Tell everyone, cause the more people that go down stairs leaves more seats upstairs for us stewards
Is it not being shown on RTE?
RTE - no, sure there's probably some junior C u-12 rugby match on somewhere.
how many other sporting events with less that 80,000 spectators will get Television coverage that weekend?
Will TG4 be showing it as well as Setanta?
just setanta.
will that be then available in London pubs with setanta.
Yes - if they subscribe to Setanta.
Village man, Arsenal are playing that evening(5.15-7.00) and with after-match analysis and interviews you could be on a sticky wicket challenging the Londoners to a game of snatch the remote.
I think even the English know what a rip off soccor is as entertainment.
I'll be at the game. Anyone on here with Setanta will make a copy of it for me if I send them a couple of blank DVDs for their trouble??
Setanta normally replay it few times over the following week.
Only downside is that they do so without the analysis. Have to admit that their commentator isin't up to much IMO.
Quote from: dodo on January 23, 2007, 01:01:34 PM
Setanta normally replay it few times over the following week.
Only downside is that they do so without the analysis. Have to admit that their commentator isin't up to much IMO.
You trying to say Val Andrews isn't the most Knowledgeable GAA pundit ever , because i wont stand for that sort of lie :D
The reason they say the capacity is 82, 300 and not 82, 500 is because the max allowed into the ground, officially, is the first figure. This is because 200 seats are left vacant in the lower tiers in case people in the upper tier suffer from vertigo.
even better on newstalk is Val gnevin- an absolute comedy show for dublin's nfl games- i remember one game against fermanagh last year had me in fits of laughter. (mind you i needed something considering the result)
Ah what? Just Setanta? FFS!!! I was gutted enough knowing I couldn't get it to the game, but not it won't even be on television!
Quote from: ziggysego on January 23, 2007, 02:36:00 PM
Ah what? Just Setanta? FFS!!! I was gutted enough knowing I couldn't get it to the game, but not it won't even be on television!
Eh Setanta is a Television station so it will be on TV
Quote from: Gnevin on January 23, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 23, 2007, 02:36:00 PM
Ah what? Just Setanta? FFS!!! I was gutted enough knowing I couldn't get it to the game, but not it won't even be on television!
Eh Setanta is a Television station so it will be on TV
Non-PVV in the north I meant Gnevin
So is it on PPV only or can anyone with Sky see it for free?
Dunno, do you get setanta ireland with sky? ... comes free on NTL or you can subscribe on Chorus digital.
looks like I'll have to get Setanta broadband in this year then
Quote from: tayto on January 23, 2007, 03:40:06 PM
Dunno, do you get setanta ireland with sky?
It's a subscription based channel on Sky, plus they also have a PVV channel. No free ones unfortunately.
shame, setanta ireland is getting good for GAA coverage. show an awful lot of soccer mind you.
I have the Setanta (northern version), and I have mixed feelings about it's value. They have the odd 'freeview' event, but I doubt this would be one, as I'm sure it attracted a fair few new subscribers.
Setanta is only free on NTL. And its not really free, its just that NTL currently pays Setanta on behalf of their subscribers (in lieu of customer service I think!). Could well change next year when Setanta get their increased English soccer coverage.
GAA on pay tv has arrived with very little fanfare. If this game was on Sky Sports, there'd be absolute uproar in the media, but probably nearly as many people could watch it without paying an extra penny (i.e. those who already have Sky Sports) as those who can watch Setanta without additional payment.
I was kinda hoping that setanta would have branch off and have a soccer channel and leave their socttish, english, portugese and german football off onto that and leave setanta sport ireland for irish sport ... probably hoping for too much there ...
The Setanta package is 9 stations for £11 a month and for me its good value, very good value in peak season. There will lots of GAA on it for the rest of the year (and loads of matches repeated through the week, plus again over Christmas) including a GAA Discussion show every night which I'm sure will be starting up again soon. Setanta Ireland concentrates on the GAA but they also cover lots of other sports including soccer from various countries. My guess is that it wouldn't pay them to have only Irish sport on it nor would there be enough Irish sport to devote an entire station to it. The package also has Setanta Sports 1 and 2, Celtic TV (which I watch occasionally), plus a Racing channel and an American Sports channel for anybody interested in Baseball, American Football, etc. I even watch that the odd time. There's plenty of live soccer on several of their stations (mainly SS1 and 2 as opposed to SSI) and overall I'm reasonably happy with what I get for my £11. I'm expecting a load of GAA stuff on it when the League starts.
Hi all - Dublin v Tyrone is being shown on our free-to-air channel Setanta Ireland - this is shown free to NTL and Chorus subscribers. If Sky are your digital provider, then you will have to subscribe to get the Setanta package - you'll get 7 channels in all.
All our GAA coverage is either free to our NTL viewers or part of an ordinary subscription package to our Sky customers - we don't put GAA events as pay per view - nor do we have any plans to do so.
If you're not an NTL customer and need to subscribe or want info for doing so text GAA to 53539 if you're in the Republic or text GAA to 81108 in NI. One of customer services reps will get back to you.
So to sum up - if you're looking to see Dublin v Tyrone and you're with NTL, you've no need to do anything - it will be shown live on Setanta Ireland, which you get anyway. If you're with SKY, they don't provide that channel as standard so you'll have to subscribe, using the numbers above.
Hope that helps.
I just want the GAA and I live in the black north.. How much and wheres your numbers?
Saw Doctors
I Useta Lover - Mugulligan's feelings towards Miss H
Only One Girl - Mugulligan regrets poor scoring rate in northern discos
Why Do I Always Want You - Stephen O'Neill and Red Cards, Cavlan and rottweilers
It Won't Be Tonight - 2 points for Tyrone,Cavangh hopes to outplay Whelo
Sing A Powerful Song - Come On You Boys in Blue, Go Home to Mainland
Freedom Fighters - The lack of them in Tyrone
That's What She Said Last Night - Miss H to Mugulligan "Off,fat-boy"
Red Cortina - Tyrone bus arrives
Presentation Boarder - Red faces to the PSNI heading back
Don't Let Me Down - Mickey Harte to Mugulligan when he sees him head for Supermac
25 Quid - Tyrone Prozzie
What A Day - Dublin 3-19 Tyrone 0-3
N17 - Mossey's tally.
I Hope You Meet Again - Tyrone and glorious defeat
Easy Tiger -
Quotethis is shown free to NTL and Chorus subscribers
Are you sure re Chorus? Always shows as a PPV or contact your subscriber for me
Yea, i have to pay extra for it on chorus.
I Useta Love Her - Dublins Lament for Sam
Freedom Fighters - Jackeens confused as to what this expression means?
Presentation Border - Sam arrives at Aughnacloy yet again
Don't Let Me Down - Caffery gees the boys up fearing another sledging
I Hope You Meet Again - Dublin realise its another Tyrone v Kerry final
Amhran na bFiann - Dubs still in the pubs an miss it but sure it doesnt matter cos they d/k the words anyway!
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 24, 2007, 02:20:58 PM
I Useta Love Her - Dublins Lament for Sam
Freedom Fighters - Jackeens confused as to what this expression means?
Presentation Border - Sam arrives at Aughnacloy yet again
Don't Let Me Down - Caffery gees the boys up fearing another sledging
I Hope You Meet Again - Dublin realise its another Tyrone v Kerry final
Amhran na bFiann - Dubs still in the pubs an miss it but sure it doesnt matter cos they d/k the words anyway!
Blah Blah Blah - What we hear when yet a other tyrone fan comes to tells how great they are
so it up to 63,000 as of yesterday, how many more does everybody think will go?
i'd say it will go to 75,000
Sell! Sell! Sell!!
Buy! Buy! Buy!
Dive, Dive Dive!
Deny, deny, deny!
Dubs to win by 3
Quote from: Gnevin on January 24, 2007, 04:49:46 PM
Dubs to win by 3
Those fantasy adverts from that mobile phone are good craic! :D
I fancy the boys in blue by 4 / 5. My prediction is based on some rather accurate tea leaves, a proven cloudy crystal ball and the fact that we are without O Neill.
Sorry lads - my mistake on chorus - but I'll let you know if that changes.
what a way to start the season!
my money is on tyrone.
what an occasion , we could not have asked for a better pairing.
fill it up and send the message out gaelic games are number one in ireland.
fill it up and celebrate our games with two of the best , pity we couldn't get a cameo from peter the great and give him a send off!
I reckon Tyrone'll win too, but they'll not get in easy with Dublin looking for a bit back after last year's fiasco!
Blah Blah Blah - What we hear when yet a other tyrone fan comes to tells how great they are
Gnevin, i think you'll find this was in response to a Dublin poster earlier, so dont be getting all sanctimonious on us there!!
Quote from: Big Mac on January 24, 2007, 05:21:39 PM
I reckon Tyrone'll win too, but they'll not get in easy with Dublin looking for a bit back after last year's fiasco!
Tyrone will be going into the game without Conor Gormley, Brian Dooher, Brian McGuigan and Stephen O' Neill (and whats the situation with Jordan?). Thats the spine of the team and All-Stars the lot of them. As such Id say the priority for Tyrone is to go and put it up to the Dubs and see how the young lads on the panel cope with the Croke Park experience. Would be a big surprise if Dublin didnt win (although a great boost for Tyrone).
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 24, 2007, 05:25:09 PM
Blah Blah Blah - What we hear when yet a other tyrone fan comes to tells how great they are
Gnevin, i think you'll find this was in response to a Dublin poster earlier, so dont be getting all sanctimonious on us there!!
Yes its always a Dub's fault :P
QuoteTyrone will be going into the game without Conor Gormley, Brian Dooher, Brian McGuigan and Stephen O' Neill (and whats the situation with Jordan?). Thats the spine of the team and All-Stars the lot of them. As such Id say the priority for Tyrone is to go and put it up to the Dubs and see how the young lads on the panel cope with the Croke Park experience
I sure Dublin will be expeimenting too, as well as dealing with their own unavailability/injury issues.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on January 25, 2007, 01:04:15 AM
QuoteTyrone will be going into the game without Conor Gormley, Brian Dooher, Brian McGuigan and Stephen O' Neill (and whats the situation with Jordan?). Thats the spine of the team and All-Stars the lot of them. As such Id say the priority for Tyrone is to go and put it up to the Dubs and see how the young lads on the panel cope with the Croke Park experience
I sure Dublin will be expeimenting too, as well as dealing with their own unavailability/injury issues.
As far as i know dublin dont have any real injury's , Mossy has a minor injury but is starting on Sunday , Christy is out but not through injury
Vaughan is the only one injured as far as I know. But Whelan is only due to start training this week I believe, so he's unlikely to start I'd have thought. And Cullen might be involved in a club promotion playoff final, if Skerries win their semi this week. Also there's been no sign of Sherlock and Cosgrove this year so far - dunno why.
Has cosgrove been cut? I thought he did well last year!
So long as the hatchet-men on the Dublin team don't go out with the game-plan of 'softening-up the young lads before they get any championship aspirations' then it should be a joy to watch for all concerned. Hopefully Caffery will see sense & have them warned that it's not to be a repeat of their first league encounters of 04 & 06.
FFS OTB, poor Tyrone, always getting picked on.
Nonsense FB, but if 3rd Feb is to be anything like the previous two league meetings in 04 & 06 then neither myself nor most of the 70 odd thousand spectators will want to be anywhere near it.
What do you mean nonsense?
The way you are putting it is that it is the Dubs who cause the problems i.e hatchet men
If MH has taught the 'young lads' to stay on their feet it might make for a better spectacle
Yes hatchet-men with a single agenda. Were you in parnell park 04? It was like the killing fields! :-\
The Dubs would probably look like hatchet men with you pr1cks dropping like flies
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 24, 2007, 02:20:58 PM
Freedom Fighters - Jackeens confused as to what this expression means?
Flaunting your ignorance of Irish history in order to try and get a rise, tut tut, sad.
"pr1cks"
Still sore from our last championship meeting I see! ;D
Eh?
full back , dont smartarse this thread please.
What do you mean smartarse this thread?
i'd assume that smartarse this thread is in referemce to you calling the Tyrone players "Pr1cks"
Hard to hide that Armagh Bias isn't it!!
Jaysus, it is hard to hide.
Bar the pr1ck word I was speaking frim an unbiased piont of view - honestly!!
The memory of some of the Tyronies is laughable.
There isnt a shadow of a doubt that Tyrone started the Parnell Park rows. At that stage the Dublin team had a reputation of being easily intimidated because of the way Armagh bullied us. So Tyrone tried the same approach - which was pretty damn stupid considering they were a better football team and much smaller. So this time Dublin stood up for themselves, and again there is no doubt they gave back more than they initially received.
The Battle of Omagh was all handbags, but still both teams acted shamefully. Only an idiot would say one team was much worse than the other. But I'm sure there's one or two about....
I know for a fact that Dublin have no wish for a dirty game this time around. Caffrey is emphasising discipline ad nauseam and with competition for places intense every player knows that if he gets suspended he'll have a battle to get back in. I can't imagine Tyrone want a fight either, so I'd expect a very good game of football. The only caveat is you could one individual from either side who feels he has a score to settle, and that could set things off.
dosnet worry me the fighting. Wish it wouldnt happen but if it it does as long as Whelo and Denis basket case get a slap we'll all go home happy.
Hound has summed up my thoughts exactly
Don't think there is much point talking about what happened last year. When it came to September both teams were busy watching the final from the stands!!
Hopefully this time with a better atmosphere in Croke Park than what there was in Omagh last year, helped by a large number of neutrals, it will be a better game of football. And with the bigger pitch it should allow a more open game. Cant wait as i'd say both managers will try and play a lot of the older heads to ensure a bit more composure on the ball. Neither manager will want to throw a novice into this game as it's been built up so much.
QuoteAt that stage the Dublin team had a reputation of being easily intimidated because of the way Armagh bullied us. So Tyrone tried the same approach
Were you even at the same game? Armagh granted are a physical-playing side and don't try to hide it, but why would Tyrone try to bully Dublin in the 1st game of the league when they dont even employ that tactic in the Championship? The tackle which nearly ended Dooher's career for good is one example of the rough-house tactics by Dublin that day.
Dont even go down the road of tackles that nearly end or end careers :-X
R the tickets available from the clubs yet???
Dont even go down the road of tackles that nearly end or end careers
You should be ashamed of youself..
It amazing how an Armagh poster can take over a Tyrone Dublin thread. Tell me this who are Armagh playing in the first round of the national League. I expect a quick answer?
QuoteDont even go down the road of tackles that nearly end or end careers
& you have the cheek to call Tyrone players pr1cks! lol
Jaysus lads, didnt know a thread was limited to certain people.
OTB you were the one that critcised the Dubs and accused them of almost ending Dooher's career, so a bit of give & take should be allowed.
RRHF Kildare, probably not quick enough for you. Dont question my intelligence again
QuoteDont even go down the road of tackles that nearly end or end careers
Real classy post there
Quoteop referee Pat McEnaney has been appointed to take charge of the NFL opener between Dublin and Tyrone on Saturday week.
The eagerly awaited clash will be the first game to be played under floodlights at Croke Park.
Some 63,000 tickets have already been sold for the game.
Last year's meeting between the two sides in the first round of the NFL became known as the 'Battle of Omagh' after a number of melees and referee Paddy Russell later admitted that he had considered abandoning the tie.
QuoteOTB you were the one that critcised the Dubs and accused them of almost ending Dooher's career, so a bit of give & take should be allowed.
If you were not in Parnell Park and did not see the deliberate foul I am referring to then why try to compare it to the accidental injury inflicted on John Toal which I'm assuming you are alluding to?
It took you 9 minutes to find out who Armagh play in the first round of the championship. Ive always believed that Armagh people are more interested in Tyrone affairs than their own. Incredible. Did you find the fixture on the net Full back?
Where are most of the Tyronnies drinking (soft drinks) before the game? Skylon? Fagans? Closer in?
I just hope the Jackeens don't ruin the occasion by turning up bladdered at 7.45.
Quote from: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 06:58:06 PM
Where are most of the Tyronnies drinking (soft drinks) before the game? Skylon? Fagans? Closer in?
I just hope the Jackeens don't ruin the occasion by turning up bladdered at 7.45.
Skylon
We usually drink in Gills as its the closest pub to the Hogan, but will probably move about trying to get the one with the best banter with the Dubs. Might give Ballybough a wide birth tho' in case things get heated! :o
Quote from: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 06:58:06 PM
Where are most of the Tyronnies drinking (soft drinks) before the game? Skylon? Fagans? Closer in?
Big Tree most likely
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 25, 2007, 07:09:39 PM
We usually drink in Gills as its the closest pub to the Hogan, but will probably move about trying to get the one with the best banter with the Dubs. Might give Ballybough a wide birth tho' in case things get heated! :o
Gills! Best pub ever
Might take a skite into the Skylon beforehand Ziggy as staying in an hotel close by. Stayed in Skylon for All-Ireland '05 - twas great craic altogether.
O'Neill, do you not see the irony of a Tyrone person calling Dubs "Jackeens"? Just have a peek at your Police Stations, Courthouses, Council Offices, Army Barracks etc etc when you are out driving next.
Sorry lads for bringing this up in GAA thread .
CP will be sold out for game, the interest in Dublin is unreal.Plus there is the chance of some pints later.
No irony at all, esp when it gets your back up. And Queen Victoria never visited Tyrone. And we don't keep Union Jacks under our beds.
"Union Jacks under our beds" Please explain?
Is that where you Castle Catholics in the 6 counties place them???
Am intrigued O' Neill.
No problems with the barb being thrown at us by our fellow Free Staters, but find it a bit rich coming from the North of Ireland.
Wait for a border poll and I am sorry to say that you will find out that alot of your coreligionists are indeed the real Mc Coy "Jackeens"
Jesus Christ lads - it's a football match - is there any need for that shite on this side of the board?
You're right Gabriel Hurl, I will stop .
..but...but...but he started it. Or sorry the Jackeens did when they forgave the Queen of England for centuries of pillaging by turning out in their best garb to greet herself on the streets of Dubh Linn.
"But it's the people of Dublin who make our capital city what it is. We call them 'Jackeens' because of a visit to Dublin by Queen Victoria which saw the locals line O'Connell Street while waving union jacks at their visitor."
Do a google Canal and you will find something like above. Then do a google on "wind up" and you might find O'Neill somewhere there too.
Anyway like the rest of us I'm sure you're looking forward to this match.
Sorry last post on topic.
The barb predates Queen Victoria's visit in early 1900s.
2 theories:-
A Alot of butchers in the Inchicore area were called Jack this or Jack that and the name stuck to the City. This is the version as posted in An Phoblacht some years ago.
B The second theory is that the name was given as a result of the Crimean War Widows in the Montpelier area of the city who used to wave the UJ when the Vice Roy used to jaunt by on the way to Church on sunday mornings.
Beg to disagree with you there O'Neill .
Would be delighted to start thread as Gaeilge with you on non GAA section.
Oíche Mhaith agus Codladh sámh dhuit mo chara Ghallda.
Tá failte romhat.
From Oxford English dictionary second edition:
jackeen (________). Anglo-Irish. [Irish dim. of Jack n.1] A contemptuous designation for a self-assertive worthless fellow. 1840 Fraser's Mag. XXII. 320 A buckeen, a jackeen, a squireen, or any of the intermediate classes. 1892 Q. Rev. July 138 _Jackeens' loitering about the Dublin Theatres. 1897 Sir C. G. Duffy ibid. Sept. 451 In manner and bearing he is a superb Jackeen.
If so it comes from
2. _ a. (As a common noun.) A man of the common people; a lad, fellow, chap; esp. a low-bred or ill-mannered fellow, a _knave'. Obs.
* 1548 Udall Erasm. Par. Luke vi. 65 A common poyncte of pleasure doyng, that euery iacke vseth.
* 1596 Shakes. Tam. Shr. ii. i. 290 A mad-cap ruffian and a swearing Iacke.
* 1600 Surflet Countrie Farme i. xvi. 108 They send them [geese] to the medowes_vnder the custodie of some little small Iacke, who may keepe them from going_into any forbidden places.
* _1640 Day Parl. Bees v. (1881) 33 A halter stretch thee: such ill-tutord jacks Poyson the fame of Patrons.
* 1682 Bunyan Holy War (Cassell) 354 But Mr. Unbelief was a nimble Jack; him they never could lay hold of.
* 1746 Brit. Mag. 75 Familiar both with peers and Jacks.
_ b. Phr. to play the jack: to play the knave, to do a mean trick. Obs.
* 1610 Shakes. Temp. iv. i. 198 Your Fairy_Has done little better then plaid the Iacke with vs.
* 1611 Beaum. & Fl. Knt. Burn. Pestle Induct., If you were not resolved to play the Jacks, what need you study for new subjects, purposely to abuse your betters?
* 1668 Pepys Diary 23 Feb., Sir R. Brookes overtook us coming to town; who played the jacke with us all, and is a fellow that I m
But why split hairs
A lot of pressure on the Dubs for this contest....playing at home in front of 60,000 howling mad Sky Blue supporters and playing against a side minus the services of All-Stars Gormley, Jordan, Dooher, McGuigan and O'Neill.
No such problems for the Red Hands. Us modest Tyrone folk will be looking for our side to put up a good fight and maybe...just maybe...spring a surprise.
Big questions would have to be asked of the Dubs if they were to lose this one.
Dare we practice into the Hill if you first? Or will Whelo Riverdance his men to a shunting session? Where's Beefer when you need him.
Quote from: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 10:49:47 PM
Dare we practice into the Hill if you first? Or will Whelo Riverdance his men to a shunting session? Where's Beefer when you need him.
ONeill grow up fool
QuoteONeill grow up fool
Who invited B A Baracas into the debate?
Christ this site is getting like hoganstand. the same old tired arguements, over and over and over.
Quote from: tayto on January 26, 2007, 08:25:27 AM
Christ this site is getting like hoganstand. the same old tired arguements, over and over and over.
Can never take anyone who reads Hoganstand messageboard seriously. Shame on you and your ilk.
i left it a long time ago because of the childish tripe that gets posted there day in, day out. It'd be a shame if this site decended to the same level.
It's good to see the slagging and banter starting up in earnest again!! :D A sure sign that the season is ready to kick of again!!
There's a great picture of Declan Lally and Brogan sipping Cocktails pool side in Dubai, in the IN today. Issues with the choice of sunglasses tho!!
rhfan is that an early excuse coming out , just in case you do get trounced. Surely you arne't reading too much into the first league match of the season, even if it is the dubs?
Surprised at fellow Dubs rising to O'Neill's bait.
Tell you what O'Neill, you and me, name the venue. Let's see how big your mouth is then you gobshite.
Whelan still hasnt started training with Dublin - so you can probably rule out any chance of him starting v Tyrone, in fact he will do well to make the bench at this stage. Confirmed sighting of Jason Sherlock at training last night, which is the first I've heard of him being back.
Here's the team i think Pillar will start with:
Clucko
Griffin O'Shea Henry
Casey Moran Cahill
Magee O'Mahony
Cullen Brogan Bonner
Dotsy Keaney Mossy
Leaving:
Whelan, Sherlock, Connolly, B Brogan, Lally, Brennan, Prenderville, An Other's on the bench
Wouldn't it be great gas if there was a latent moth infestation problem around Drumcondra on a plague scale.
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Well how about that
QuoteThe GAA has announced that the Dublin-Tyrone Allianz NFL game under lights at Croke Park is close to being an 82,000 sell out.
There are now less than 1,500 terrace tickets remaining and they will remain on sale on ticketmaster while they last. All stand tickets have been distributed and the GAA have confirmed that there are no further tickets available from headquarters or Croke Park outlets.
An attendance of over 82,000 is now anticipated, which will be a record for a National League game.
The stiles open at 5.00pm and the game, the first under floodlights in Croke Park, will start at 7.00pm.
Is the ad promoting the game on the web anywhere? I've been watching out for it on tv but havent seen it yet.
With your bad luck OTB, I'd say your destined never to see it.
Its just fantastic.
Think of Dublin and Tyrone players doing great stuff on the pitch, but with floodlights shining out of their boots, out of their hands, out of their heads, even out of their arses.
Genius.
Amazing news on the attendance - didnt think they'd get to 80,000, especially when I can't make it ;)
I wonder how much of that is neutrals - there does seem to be a lot of interest in this from the neutrals. Still presumably at least 50,000 Dubs.
I also wonder if there is any thought been given to playing more Dublin league games in Croker....
QuoteI also wonder if there is any thought been given to playing more Dublin league games in Croker....
Can't see it in this league campaign hound, however they may opt for one 'grandstand' game per season if this one turns out to be as big a success as its looking likely to be. The novelty value could wear off very soon tho and anything less then 50,000 in croker makes it seem empty.
Perhaps the league final under floodlights might re-invigorate it as a crowd-puller?
80,000 for a league game in February. Never thought I'd see the day. Other sporting bodies like the FAI must be amazed considering how many one of their league games would attract!
I think it's just because it's the first time and everyone wants to be there. Next year, there won't be the same crowds. Be unlikely if it would even be in Croke Park again.
The second league game v Fermanagh will be a bit of a downer!
I'm most interested to see how the drink factor adds to the experience. Any of you who attend big premiership/ CL games at night or evenings at weekends will know what I mean. The difference between a 12.30 k.o. and a 5pm or 7.45 k.o k.o. is immense cos fans have had time to wet the vocal chords and are in more of a singin mood. The hill should be deadly!
Quote80,000 for a league game in February. Never thought I'd see the day. Other sporting bodies like the FAI must be amazed considering how many one of their league games would attract!
There's a big sporting event this side of the pond that weekend - which will have a smaller crowd than this game - that game - the Superbowl
What about Cork v Tyrone in Feb (24th I think), it's on a Sat night as well. Can someone reassure me that it's in Pairc Ui Chaoimh before I book flights.
all of corks floodlit games are in paric i rinn. not that thas much help.
That's grand, as long as it's in Cork city. Thanks.
Quote from: forkinknife on January 26, 2007, 09:22:06 AM
Surprised at fellow Dubs rising to O'Neill's bait.
Tell you what O'Neill, you and me, name the venue. Let's see how big your mouth is then you gobshite.
Wha.........., Surprised, then to follow it up with a big Scary threat like that, Woooooooooooh
You couldn't make this up :D
I Hear Tyrone are training in croke park on tuesday night
I have a feeling Tyrone will win this years All-Ireland. Tyrone 03 Kerry 04 Tyrone 05 Kerry 06 Anyone else see the trend? Back to the subject delighted to see a sell out crowd. The Dub's and Tyrone fans will make it some atmosphere in Croke Park. Realy looking forward to the game should be a craicer.
Quote from: Northside Dub on January 26, 2007, 10:59:35 AM
Here's the team i think Pillar will start with:
Clucko
Griffin O'Shea Henry
Casey Moran Cahill
Magee O'Mahony
Cullen Brogan Bonner
Dotsy Keaney Mossy
Leaving:
Whelan, Sherlock, Connolly, B Brogan, Lally, Brennan, Prenderville, An Other's on the bench
Cullen back to centre back, Moran to left half and Connolly at right half forward.....also think Bonnar is likely to be full forward with Lally at wing-forward and Quinn on the bench...
surely a Dublin team with no Jayo, Whelo and Shaugho are up against it.
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 27, 2007, 10:25:49 AM
surely a Dublin team with no Jayo, Whelo and Shaugho are up against it.
The lack of whelo is a worry but i believe he'll start as for jayo and shaugho would be nice to have them esp shaugho but we have the cover
surely a tyrone team without o neill-gormley-mc guigan- and jordan hasn't a bloody prayer.
Quotesurely a tyrone team without o neill-gormley-mc guigan- and jordan hasn't a bloody prayer.
quoted for a reminder next Saturday night
Only churls churlish over Croker lights
Tom Humphries
Locker Room: In the murky alcoves and quiet corners of the chat rooms there are still some contributors bellyaching and muttering darkly about next Saturday's floodlit extravaganza in Croke Park.
A friend used to describe the Liveline programme on RTÉ Radio 1 as a civic forum for cranks, and happily the internet and its humming chat rooms have extended the possibilities for that benighted portion of the population who are never happy unless they are grumbling.
To sneak around the chat rooms eavesdropping one would suspect the Dublin-versus-Tyrone shindig was like the Vietnam draft, a compulsory exercise and one likely to lead to death or maiming.
Legislation for the draft has apparently been drawn up by a cabal of media types with nothing better to do. Finally, it is clear the game will do nothing but harm, the least of its unforeseen consequences being media interest, which as we all know, hits a team like the MRSA superbug hits a hospital.
For the rest of us it's a nice little celebration. If you were dragged up a certain way the new year starts in earnest only when the serious GAA action begins again. That period of the year between the end of the provincial club championships to, well, next weekend is spent in a period of suspended animation, marked (well, more so than usual) by feelings of ennui, lethargy and slight depression.
Sure, there is the diet of soccer, the Premiership, The Roy and Niall Show , and the ever-entertaining soap opera of the domestic league, which even in its downtime lurches from crisis to crisis like a drunk walking against the traffic.
For a bewildering number of people on this island there is the Heino as well, an event we take more seriously than the rest of the world put together, and well, why not? If it mixes sport with a suggestion that somebody drinks this beer instead of that beer we're all for it so long as it ain't the GAA that's at it.
All those distractions are fine but they are somewhat remote. The country isn't in full gear till the GAA is up and running and speculative conversation abut the summer is coursing through the veins of the nation.
Next Saturday night is a celebration not just of the end of the winter doldrums but of the end of one period in the GAA's history and the start of another.
The first floodlit game to be played in Croker comes, as we'll tire of hearing over the next few months, before the gates are thrown open and the new tenants are let in.
There are a small minority of diehards, begrudgers and whingers who, like the poor, shall always be with us, and they aren't happy. These people attract cameras and microphones like starlets having wardrobe malfunctions on their nights out. A disproportionate amount of attention is given to things they would be better off keeping private.
These are people from within the GAA who believe that when they cut themselves shaving they seep green, green blood. They are the people from outside the GAA who actually enjoyed the GAA's discomfort over Rule 42. Cold-war types who still live it.
For both sides, Michael Greenan, of the Ulster Council, is an icon and his threat to run for the presidency of the GAA is a promise to bring both sides to business as it was practised, say, in 1959.
The rest of us (barring the iconic Michael Greenan) are just happy to see the back of that dark period of time and to be on the cusp of an era where the GAA's achievement at Croke Park is highlighted and talked about and welcomed and respected.
For the next few months we might still be backward-looking, swamp-dwelling stickballing Neanderthals but we are the ones opening up the grand house and taking the rent from our professional friends. Only a churl would be, well, churlish about it.
Dublin and Tyrone are a perfect way to start things off in the post-churl era.
Mention of those teams and Michael Greenan actually reminds us of that splendid piece of YouTube footage which showcases about five minutes of highlights, head-butts, high tackles and carnage from the Dublin v Tyrone game in the Skydome in Toronto back in 1990. Peter Canavan was 18 and looked like Rick Astley.
The so-called Battle of Omagh was sissy stuff by comparison, but there, scampering around happily in his referee's outfit on the artificial sward used for those foreign abominations of baseball and gridiron was our Michael Greenan.
There's a sense about this season that there is an All-Ireland out there for the taking. Missing a couple of stars, settling a few others and just getting his feet under the table is likely to hinder Pat O'Shea. Armagh are in a curious spot, too old in parts, too young in others. Mayo have John O'Mahony but have they the mental strength? Cork seem a little bit off, especially in the forwards.
That leaves Dublin and Tyrone. The Ulster champions have the best footballers and maybe the shrewdest manager but they've been rolling on for some time now and it will be interesting come summer to see if they have the intensity in their gut to play their high-pressure game. And Rick Astley is gone, taking with him that raw edge which made him so infuriating for opposition fans to watch.
And the Dubs? There's a point to prove after last August and it will take a few new faces to prove it. For a long time the rap on the Dubs has been that they take athletes and try to turn them into footballers (they actually take hurlers and turn them into footballers but let's not go there now), but with Diarmuid Connolly, Bernard Brogan and Dotsie O'Callaghan all bubbling up nicely there's a lot of class to choose from in their forwards.
Midfield is a slight worry in that Ciarán Whelan, patchy though his excellence is, can't go on forever, but the evidence in Tullamore yesterday is Darren Magee is coming back to the level where he is a serious option.
The defence is a greater worry. There's lots of talk about putting the Sigerson-winning midfielder Ross McConnell in the number three jersey for a while and, looking at the back lines, one wonders sometimes where the necessary toughness is going to come from. Where is the Gay O'Driscoll, the Pat O'Neill, the Paddy Moran, or Keith Barr or Eamonn Heery? Ger Brennan brings a little of that and there's a quiet constituency that likes the outside chances of Paul Brogan of Plunketts as well.
That's what makes next Saturday such an opportunity on every level. It's an occasion . The GAA celebrating itself a little while it stands on the threshold of history. And it's a game. Tyrone, who have been experimenting madly in the McKenna Cup, against Dublin, who have been a little more cautious but need three or four new faces to shake things up.
What could be better than throwing a few players into the mix in front of 82,000 people while playing opposition that wants to put down a serious marker? Both benches get a rare chance to see what their tyros might be like under pressure at the height of summer.
We all step out into the light on Saturday and two sides who fancy themselves for the long haul to next September get to have their credentials examined against that light. It will be magical and it will be interesting too. And it's only February.
Relax in the chat rooms, lads. Enjoy the show.
© 2007 The Irish Times
Cheers Mick, not a bad article at all. Humphries either delights me or leaves me feeling cold depending on his subject. If it's the GAA in general , great, but when he adopts his role as Chief driver of the Blue and navy bandwagon I get all cold.
Mind you he wrote exactly what I was thinking regarding Dublin and their chances this year, if they had a couple of lads that could help Alan Brogan out they would have beaten Mayo last year, and if his younger brother, Connolly and maybe Vaughan prove themselves there is an All Ireland there for them this year, much as it pains me
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on January 27, 2007, 08:47:34 AM
Quote from: Northside Dub on January 26, 2007, 10:59:35 AM
Here's the team i think Pillar will start with:
Clucko
Griffin O'Shea Henry
Casey Moran Cahill
Magee O'Mahony
Cullen Brogan Bonner
Dotsy Keaney Mossy
Leaving:
Whelan, Sherlock, Connolly, B Brogan, Lally, Brennan, Prenderville, An Other's on the bench
Cullen back to centre back, Moran to left half and Connolly at right half forward.....also think Bonnar is likely to be full forward with Lally at wing-forward and Quinn on the bench...
Cullen was brought on as a forward again yesterday...
Dotsie going off at half-time v Laois could well mean he'll lose his starting position
Good to hear Humphries has us as Ulster champions.
As usual, I have left it too late to go looking for tickets and there's nothing on Ticketmaster :-[
Any ideas?? Need 4 together, anywhere but the Hill/Nally
Skerries lost in their promotion playoff semi-final on Saturday to Crokes II, so remain Intermediate for another year.
Meaning Bryan Cullen will be available to start for the Dubs v Tyrone.
Who he's going to drop to make way for the likes of Cullen, Brogan, Ryan, Casey will be very interesting. Lally going off with the All Stars has probably cost him his chance of making the starting team - unless his selection at corner back in Dubai gives Pillar an idea!!
Quote from: Hound on January 29, 2007, 12:44:51 PM
Skerries lost in their promotion playoff semi-final on Saturday to Crokes II, so remain Intermediate for another year.
Meaning Bryan Cullen will be available to start for the Dubs v Tyrone.
Who he's going to drop to make way for the likes of Cullen, Brogan, Ryan, Casey will be very interesting. Lally going off with the All Stars has probably cost him his chance of making the starting team - unless his selection at corner back in Dubai gives Pillar an idea!!
OByrne Cup
Cluxton; P Griffin, N O'Shea, C Prendeville; C Goggins, C Moran, G Brennan; D Magee, D O'Mahony; D Murray, T Quinn, D Connolly; D O'Callaghan, K Bonner, C Keaney. S
My Starting 15
Cluxton; P Griffin, Cahill, O'Shaughnessy ; C Goggins, C Moran, Henry; D Magee (Whelo if fit) ,Ryan; D Murray, T Quinn, D Connolly; Brogan, K Bonner, C Keaney.
QuoteAs usual, I have left it too late to go looking for tickets and there's nothing on Ticketmaster
Keep checking every hour or so & they will come back on sale. Even if this fails there will be loads available from the ticketmaster vans outside croker on the Saturday.
Quote from: Gnevin on January 29, 2007, 01:29:55 PM
My Starting 15
Cluxton; P Griffin, Cahill, O'Shaughnessy ; C Goggins, C Moran, Henry; D Magee (Whelo if fit) ,Ryan; D Murray, T Quinn, D Connolly; Brogan, K Bonner, C Keaney.
Did you forget Cullen or deliberately omit him?
I think Pillar will play Cullen instead of Murray. And Casey at wingback, Henry at corner back in place of Shocko.
Full back is up in the air. Talty said a primary objective of early season is to find a new full back - therefore they must not be happy with Cahill in this position. I wonder when McConnell's suspension is up?
Quote from: Hound on January 29, 2007, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on January 29, 2007, 01:29:55 PM
My Starting 15
Cluxton; P Griffin, Cahill, O'Shaughnessy ; C Goggins, C Moran, Henry; D Magee (Whelo if fit) ,Ryan; D Murray, T Quinn, D Connolly; Brogan, K Bonner, C Keaney.
Did you forget Cullen or deliberately omit him?
I think Pillar will play Cullen instead of Murray. And Casey at wingback, Henry at corner back in place of Shocko.
Full back is up in the air. Talty said a primary objective of early season is to find a new full back - therefore they must not be happy with Cahill in this position. I wonder when McConnell's suspension is up?
Wasnt really space for him i was impressed with Murray and Connolly and would give them a run out
You're dropping Cullen?? ;D
I like the look of that Connolly fella. As I commented in the O'Byrne Cup final thread, he seems as if he may well be another piece added to Pillar's jigsaw. Obviously he's raw and will not be at his peak this year, but forwards like him will be needed over the next few years. Himself, Brogan, Keaney, and maybe one or two more (Not convinced about Vaughan, Cosgrove, Bonnar, etc) would be a fine forward line.
I wouldnt like to be Gnevin when Josey finds out what he's planning for Cullen ;D
Now that Bonner has a full year of intercounty under his belt, I think he may well show us why Pillar has confidence in him. I'm hoping he'll prove to be a very important ball winner for Dublin in the forwards.
Time to whup Tyrone's arses now. The colluseum of Croke Park will be bouncing on Saturday night. The culchies won't know what has hit them. The Hill will breathe fiire. We'll outnumber them 60'000-20'000. I myself will be drunk after the rugby earlier but that won't matter.
We want Sam, but we'll start with a Red Head scalp.
QuoteI myself will be drunk after the rugby earlier but that won't matter.
Just make sure you get in on time
True Hound, and I suppose that is what his role will be. I suppose my knock on Dublin for the past 3 or 4 years is that they have a scatter of ball winners but not enough lads to split the pipes under pressure. You can't throw the baby out with the bathwater though, and maybe 3 or 4 cool forwards, with another 3 or 4 ball winners (Some can be both :D) would be a recipe for Sam going to the Spire on his holidays.
QuoteQuote
I myself will be drunk after the rugby earlier but that won't matter.
Just make sure you get in on time
Touché Gab :D
And already it's Tyrone 1-00 Dublin 0-00 :D
I can't see anything other than 50,000 people having the same idea of trying to get in for 10 minutes before throw-in.
And there will be many thousands who will decide to "make a day" of it:
1245 Liverpool v Everton
1600 England v Scotland
1900ish Dublin v Tyrone
Messy, messy, messy ;D
I'll certainly be in a mess, but I'll be Wales (please let me find a pub with Setanta Ireland) :'(
Remember to drink Guiness sensibly boys or it can drip down your shirt.
QuoteI myself will be drunk after the rugby earlier but that won't matter.
We want Sam, but we'll start with a Red Head scalp.
That wud be Red Hand scalp I take it...
we want a red headed scalp
Damn injun jackeens.
After Yesterday
Cluxton
Griffen O'Se Henry - Shocko/Cahill on bench
Casey Cullen Moran - Goggins/Brennan on bench
Magee O'Mahony - Ryan/Whelan on bench
Murray Brogan Connolly - Lally/Brogan on bench
Quinn Bonnar Keaney
Seriously - I hope to hell that the game isn't delayed. I think it would be a good opportunity to throw the ball in on time and make the latecomers think twice about it the next time. There are bars inside the ground ffs.
i don't see any justification for having brennan on the bench based on form and i doubt anyone can come up with an argument to say why he should be there for me he's been the most consistent player over the 3 games.
Yeah Being a Toffee fan I will be in the pub from 12.30pm
Will be supporting the Blues at 12.45 and the Red hands at 7pm.
Any idea what time the entertainment starts at?
QuoteAny idea what time the entertainment starts at?
Someone told me Saw docotors at 6? Can't say I'll be in for that. Heard they have penned a new verse of N17 for it tho!
"I glad I'm not on Hill Si-ix-teen,
With the stoned, soaked and pissed Jack-keens
Babbling about Sam Maguire pipe-dreams" :P
Yeah Being a Toffee fan I will be in the pub from 12.30pm
There's no accounting for taste i suppose!! :D
Lol, is everybody forgetting that this is just a league game, the same sort that will be played over next few months in swamp like surfaces. Obviously Tyrone will be wanting a win, but they will have a very, very experimental side out. The injured players are ready to be back within a month, but stevie o neill is suspended. Should be good craic though
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 29, 2007, 04:38:14 PM
Seriously - I hope to hell that the game isn't delayed. I think it would be a good opportunity to throw the ball in on time and make the latecomers think twice about it the next time. There are bars inside the ground ffs.
Or maybe the GAA will fix their problems this year instead of blaming the Dubs first and finding the real problem later
I missed that GNevin. What was the real problem they found out later? I always assumed it was the late drinking.
The Dubs will be there in time OK, with their pikes in good repair.
SINGING TIME
come on you boys in blue" "come on you boys in blue" "come on you boys" "COME ON YOU BOYS IN BLUE"
Always look on the North Side for Shite.
Cheer up Tyronnies, Oh how can it be, to be a west British w**ker, Now pay your clamping fees
There's only one Eoin Mulligan, one Eoin Mulligan, eats too much chips, got fuckin enormous hips, walkin' in a Mulligan wonderland
(on clamping) Thank you very much for paying for our booze, thank you very much, thank you very very much
Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2007, 04:43:58 PM
i don't see any justification for having brennan on the bench based on form and i doubt anyone can come up with an argument to say why he should be there for me he's been the most consistent player over the 3 games.
I believe that Paul Casey is the only player to have started every league and championship game under Caffrey. While Brennan may have played very well in the O'Byrne Cup, and thus is very much in the running for a starting place, it wouldnt surprise me if Casey and Goggins got the nod for wing back. Or if Caffrey reverts Cullen to centre back, that'll push Captain Collie onto the wing, and move Brennan further down the pecking order. However, if he doesnt play v Tyrone I'm sure Brennan would get his chance the following week in Limerick.
Personally I hope Caffrey uses the opportunity to see how Brennan reacts in front of 83,000 fans.
And the other big question is will he subject Connolly to the same cauldron? Its a real sink or swim affair. If he does well, it'll be a great decision and the experience gained would be invaluable come championship. If he does badly there'd be fears it could scar him and everyone would say Caffrey pushed him too early. And if Connolly does play, will he have the added pressure of being freetaker in preference to Quinn? You would think so given that Connoly and not Quinn took the frees last week.
Quote from: forkinknife on January 30, 2007, 11:44:44 AM
The Dubs will be there in time OK, with their pikes in good repair.
SINGING TIME
come on you boys in blue" "come on you boys in blue" "come on you boys" "COME ON YOU BOYS IN BLUE"
Always look on the North Side for Shite.
Cheer up Tyronnies, Oh how can it be, to be a west British w**ker, Now pay your clamping fees
There's only one Eoin Mulligan, one Eoin Mulligan, eats too much chips, got fuckin enormous hips, walkin' in a Mulligan wonderland
(on clamping) Thank you very much for paying for our booze, thank you very much, thank you very very much
Is this they Same Eoin Mulligan who has two All Ireland Medals (More than the combined total of the Dublin team), Who scored the wonder goal in 2005 as well as waltzing in front of you louts (yous arent all louts just people like forkinknife) after sticking another goal into the back of Cluxtons net. Your loutish chats havent seem to upset Mugsy so far.
Thought this was supposed to be a great sporting occassion celebrating out culture. Our Association dosnt need fools like you nor do the true Dublin supporters want you.
Calling us West British how low can you go like we laugh at them jibes up here.
From Hoganstand:
QuoteAll systems go for Croker clash
30 January 2007
Both the Dublin and Tyrone football panels expressed themselves more than pleased after training under lights at Croke Park last night (Monday).
Ahead of their historical NFL clash at headquarters this Saturday night, both squads were allocated different time slots to exercise their thoughts and bodies and get used to the floodlights.
Saturday night's game is a near sell-out with just under 82,000 tickets already sold.
Is it me or have half of yesterday's posts on this thread disappeared? There's a gap from 4.43 yesterday until 10.22 today. The same applies to the McKenna Cup thread.
Has Ricey had his eyebrows done?
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I sure this has been covered but I couldn't be arsed wading through 20-odd pages for the answer, but can you buy this match as a one-off like you can do with Celtic matches etc?
Also is Setanta among the channels in a free-view box?
Would any of the Tyrone posters like to put up what they think they're team for saturday will be?
I hear O'Neill is out? If so it's a real shame.
O'Neill is suspended
O'Neill is defiantly out, apparently his ban expires a few hours after the game ends.
Considering that there have been 22 crap pages written about this 1st round national league game...thank God Saturday is coming...the down side is that youse nutters will write another 22 on who should have won and why
Quote from: Elias on January 30, 2007, 03:56:54 PM
O'Neill is defiantly out, apparently his ban expires a few hours after the game ends.
Maybe the drunken Dubs arriving late will have its benefits!!
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 30, 2007, 04:00:12 PM
Considering that there have been 22 crap pages written about this 1st round national league game...thank God Saturday is coming...the down side is that youse nutters will write another 22 on who should have won and why
Better than going to the Londonderry page to read 22 pages on why they are crap ;D ;D :D :-*
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 30, 2007, 11:19:20 AM
I missed that GNevin. What was the real problem they found out later? I always assumed it was the late drinking.
Their was some sort of problems with the Canal End , just like the pitch was later discovered to be crap or the kilkenny pitch invasion was fine ::)
You've lost me GNevin. What problem was in the Canal End? I'm genuinely curious, I can't remember this at all.
I don't undertand what you are saying about the pitch being crap, or the Kilkenny invasion either. I feel like I've missed a few episodes of this series :D
AZ Offaly, all of last year's "delayed" throw ins were ordered by the Gardai as a result of congestion leading from Jones Road to the stiles at the Canal End. It is a narrow lane that expands closer to the stiles and led to approx 30min delays in getting in.Guy in our club is stationed in Fitzwilliam Street and said that GAA(and their lickspittles in the Sunday Game) are blaming drunkeness and latecomers, when it is a design fault..
Quote from: Elias on January 30, 2007, 03:56:54 PM
O'Neill is defiantly out, apparently his ban expires a few hours after the game ends.
Good thing it was fixed for a saturday then eh! ... seriously though i'd prefer him to play, it's players like him that you go to see even if it means 70 mins of torment ...
Quote from: Northside Dub on January 30, 2007, 03:49:13 PM
Would any of the Tyrone posters like to put up what they think they're team for saturday will be?
Put up a team yesterday northside but it was removed. Sorry Mickey but here goes again:
Pascal
Ricey Cormac McGinley McGee
Harte C Gormley Justin McMahon
Kevin Hughes S Cavanagh
C Cavanagh/T McGuigan G Cavlan Penrose
E McGinley P Rouse Mugsy
Devine
Ricey Cormac McGinley McGee
Harte Kevin Hughes Penrose
S Cavanagh Kelvin Hughes
C Cavanagh G Cavlan T Mc Guigan
Niall Gormley P Rouse Mugsy
DUBLIN (SF v Tyrone) - S Cluxton; D Henry, N O'Shea, P Griffin; P Casey, C Moran, G Brennan; D O'Mahony, D Magee; D Murray, A Brogan, D Connolly; D O'Callaghan, K Bonner, C Keaney.
Collie Moran and Niall O' Shea providing the back spine down the middle. Niall O' Shea marking this new large Tyrone full forward Rouse. I'd get my money on Tyrone to win this one unfortunately. Cant see a Dublin victory.
very disappointed with the selection-dublin could make sure they win that game by picking the right team considering some of the players tyrone are missing- they've now given tyrone a right good chance. i thought we wanted to make sure of the playoffs? I think it's a mistake leaving cullen and quinn out.
Have to laugh at the Dubs on here..................SON, Jordan, Dooher, Holmes, Gourley, Gormley(prob) and McGuigan all out of the game on Sat, Dubs with bulk of the supporters and home advantage, motor fresh from a match the week before, - how can they talk this up into anything other than a nailed on win for Dublin is beyond me
because you have as many new guys as we have.
casey hasn't played any football. etc.
a new full back
a 19 year old kicking frees-
could all go swimmingly- could all go down the pan. i think with the 4 below players we'd win. No problem with connolly and brennan they deserve to start but i 'd prefer a few more experienced men around them.
cullen-whelan-quinn-cahill that's as many as you're misssing. so don't give us that load of b*****.
The Boys in blue by 5 and I wouldnt begrudge them it either with all their nightmare injuries..
Have ro disagree with you dubsnsubs, the team picked is not a bad team at all with a strong bench to be brought on if needs be
Quote from: Josey Whales on January 30, 2007, 10:29:47 PM
because you have as many new guys as we have.
casey hasn't played any football. etc.
a new full back
a 19 year old kicking frees-
could all go swimmingly- could all go down the pan. i think with the 4 below players we'd win. No problem with connolly and brennan they deserve to start but i 'd prefer a few more experienced men around them.
cullen-whelan-quinn-cahill that's as many as you're misssing. so don't give us that load of b*****.
exactly, strange team, i'd have gone for connolly and brennan alright but not sure about leaving cullen and the others out.
Anyway if we were saying it'd be a dublin win, no doubt we'd be getting abuse for being cocky.
;)
I think when Niall O Shea stands beside Brian Rouse it will become obvious where Dublin's problems will surface! What bothers me more is that there does'nt appear to be any plan B to deal with a high ball bombardment. I dont think any of the six Dublin backs is over six foot and even Bryan Cullen isnt exactly a monster. We badly need a commanding figure araound the square or else its only more misery down the road.......even if we do manage to scrape a win on Saturday evening. I'd also be fairly confident that Collie Moran wont last too long at centre back either. I was optimistic starting off last year........this year I'm not. Ross McConnell would appear to be the only hope but hes suspended. We'll see!
Have to agree about the full back position, we need to get someone there ASAP. What about Christie? Being out last year may give him enough to last one more year.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 30, 2007, 06:32:39 PM
You've lost me GNevin. What problem was in the Canal End? I'm genuinely curious, I can't remember this at all.
I don't undertand what you are saying about the pitch being crap, or the Kilkenny invasion either. I feel like I've missed a few episodes of this series :D
See canalmans answer for the problem with the canal end ,
As for kilkenny don't you remember how the dubs pitch invasion after the Leinster was shocking and compacted the pitch , then kilkenny done it and nothing was said
Or how it turned out the pitch was crap because it wasn't laid right and the sand and soil mixtures isn't correct
Quote from: esmonde on January 30, 2007, 11:35:00 PM
Have to agree about the full back position, we need to get someone there ASAP. What about Christie? Being out last year may give him enough to last one more year.
Chrisite is concentrating on his studies (finishing a Masters or something), so will not be available to join the panel until March.
I'm happy with the team. Cullen's not playing because he's missed lots of training sessions - he started a few weeks later than most. He'll be broight on though and will paly a big role. I see nothing wrong with giving O'Shea and O'Mahoney their chance. There's a lot more to defending against a big full forward than height.
Connolly deserves his chance after his performances, and having Quinn on beside him would just add to the pressure as he'd be thinking "1 miss and I'll be off the frees". In any event Dotsie deserves his chance too.
And no matter what happens elsewhere on the pitch Brogan, Keaney and Bonner will ensure we'll score more than they do ;D
The one change id make would be to start cullen instead of moran at centre back, the rest of the team have done well so far this year and deserve their shot! I have my doubts about O'Shea on Tyrone's big FF, id have cahill in there for his extra height and strength!!
Quote from: dubsnsubs on January 30, 2007, 11:26:13 PM
I think when Niall O Shea stands beside Brian Rouse it will become obvious where Dublin's problems will surface!
I dont know why all the dubs are getting worked up about a potential aerial bombardment of their full back line. Yes Tyrone have played a big man in full forward (Rouse) in the Mckenna cup and he has played quite well. However he has not yet been named by Mickey Harte on the starting team for saturday night and furthermore in the games I saw in the Mckenna cup the ball just was not lumped in high at every opportunity. Yes on a small number of times a high ball was used when there was no other option but in the vast majority of cases it was a low calculated ball played into the inside forward line of which Rouse was one. Just because Kerry had great sucess in the latter part of the season with Donaghy (who in my opinion is better than Rouse) does not mean Mickey Harte will try and copy them. I would not be surprised if by the time the year is out Mickey has reinvented the wheel.
As for the game on Saurday I will wait to see what team Tyrone put out before making any predictions. Tyrone posters on here dont seem to be aware of the fact that Tyrones team on Saturday night will apparently be drawn from their McKenna cup panel - some of the potntial teams have included Justin McMahon.
Big Rouse I believe also played in the Under 21 losing final to the Dubs in 2003, can you correct me who he marked
Any truth in the rumor that Pascal McConnell got injured at the training in croke park last night? Heard someone mention a broken collar bone??
Don't know how reliable the source would be though.......
More detail, wrong keeper mentioned in post above.
From BCC;
Devine injury blow for Red Hands
John Devine sustained the injury while training at Croke Park
Tyrone keeper John Devine is a major doubt for Saturday's National Football League opener against Dublin because of a suspected broken collarbone.
The Errigal Ciaran goalkeeper picked up the injury while training under lights at Croke Park on Tuesday evening.
If he is ruled out, Jonathan Curran is likely to get the number one jersey.
Dublin's side shows three changes from the O'Byrne Cup final win over Laois with Alan Brogan, David Henry and Paul Casey coming into the side.
The players to lose out are Coman Goggins, Colin Prenderville and Tomas Quinn.
The Red Hands will be without several major players for the floodlit game at Croke Park, including the suspended Stephen O'Neill and other injury victims, Brian Dooher, Conor Gormley and Colin Holmes.
Tyrone boss Mickey Harte will use the same panel of players who competed in the McKenna Cup for Saturday's opener against Dublin.
He will name a squad for the league after the McKenna Cup campaign is over.
"We'll be working off our McKenna Cup squad for the time being," confirmed the Tyrone boss.
Forward Brian McGuigan hopes to be challenging for a place in Mickey Harte's Tyrone team within a month after recovering from a broken leg.
The Ardboe player has targeted Tyrone's NFL tie against Cork on 24 February as his possible comeback game but adds that he will "not be rushing it".
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Dublin: S Cluxton, D Henry, N O'Shea, P Griffin, P Casey, C Moran, G Brennan, D O'Mahony, D Magee, D Murray, A Brogan, D Connolly, D O'Callaghan, K Bonner, C Keaney.
What time are the Saw Doctors on?
Got an e-mail from the Tyrone County Board, match is now a sell-out - no further tickets available.
Don't have issue with Caffrey giving younger players a chance in NL. Dublin have not been good at doing this in NL in recent years. However he's seen enough of O'Shea in FB line and Moran at CB to know that they are not good enough to play in those roles at this level. We are seriously short at the minute at FB. Cahill will only ever be fallback option there. Would guess Christie left panel because he wasn't likely to be given much playing time. Haven't seen him play at club level recently but he must have gone backwards big time to not warrant any playing time through last Summer and recent O'Byrne Cup. Moran has always had talent and ability but his performances have been dreadful. On what basis has he been made captain? It's mindboggling! O'Shea just isn't good enough pure and simple.
Cant believe Moran keeps getting his game at centre back, he's proved time and again that he's just not good enough. Think O'Shea could make it as a corner back not too sure about FB though...
salivatating at the prospect at humiliating the nordies. DOn't be worrying about the newcomers. This game will inspire those with something to prove whereas the experienced players will not be as motivated.
I can seriously see us blowing Tyrone away here, they seem to be lacking quality in variouis deptartments. I think the noise will get to them,especially the booing of frees. I wonder who'll be taking them I hope to God it's Mugulligan. Yaysus he'll dung them.
From sawdoctors.com
You'd swear they were the main attraction...god love 'em
Still think they're great, though.
The Saw Doctors will play four songs at the 80,000 capacity Croke Park Stadium on Saturday, February 3, from 6:20 pm to 6:40 pm. Following The Saw Doctors, at 7 pm, Dublin will battle with Tyrone in the first round of the National Football League. Earlier in the evening, GAA President Nicky Brennan will switch on the new floodlights at Croke Park.
WOuldn't it be deadly if the trip or a fuse went when he turned them on.
I'd be worried about O'Mahoney and Moran, I think that Magee has been left to do all the work in midfield in the O'Byrne cup, maybe the better conditions in Croker will suit O'M but I wouldn't be so sure.
As for Moran, I suppose the fact that he is captain means some faith must be shown in him, but his performances would want to improve and quickly
Good to see Brennan and Connolly getting a shot. We'll see what Connolly is really like at the frees with 80000 at it, I don't think he'll have any problems, looks like the real deal when it comes to frees
As Loughsore Lad stated, Tyrone will have a very experimental side out. There will be obviously no dooher, gormley, mcguigan, colin holmes and Stevie O'Neill for starters. The Dubs will mroe than likely play a near full strength side. Everyone seems to be getting carried away, after all it is only a league match. The same number of points are at stake that will be in any other league games played in the cold light of a swamp like healy park in a few weeks.
As for
QuoteI think the noise will get to them,especially the booing of frees. I wonder who'll be taking them I hope to God it's Mulligan. Yaysus he'll dung them.
I wonder if the noise will affect him the way it did the last time he faced the dubs in Croke Prk. If I recall, it wasnt him who was dunging them. I'd say it was the three dub defenders he left in a heap and the thousands of dub squealers in the stands!
31 January 2007
The GAA have re-iterated that there will be no further general sale of tickets for the Allianz League game between Dublin and Tyrone at Croke Park on Saturday night. The GAA have also appealed to supporters to allow plenty of time to gain access to the stadium and have warned patrons to expect queues at the turnstiles if arriving after 6.30pm.
A pre-match programme of events has been scheduled including a performance by the Dublin Gospel choir commencing at 5.40pm followed by the Ceremony of Light which will see the official switching on of the new Croke Park floodlights by GAA President Nickey Brennan at 6.10pm. Galway band, The Saw Doctors, will perform live from 6.20pm before the big game throws-in at 7pm.
Patrons are asked to note that Students (with appropriate I.D.) and Senior Citizens who have purchased tickets for the Davin (Canal End) and Cusack Stands ONLY can claim a refund at stiles in Block D of the Cusack Stand on entry.
It should also be noted that Clonliffe College Car Park will be open on Saturday evening.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 31, 2007, 12:09:47 PM
As Loughsore Lad stated, Tyrone will have a very experimental side out. There will be obviously no dooher, gormley, mcguigan, colin holmes and Stevie O'Neill for starters. The Dubs will mroe than likely play a near full strength side.
Get with the programme...dublin team has been named and its not full strength...wats with all the Tyrone fans here saying the dubs should piss home sat night...making excuses already..."we have a crap team out dubs have a great team out" "we've had no preparation dubs have had great preparation"
Talk about hedging your bets!! Both teams are missing loads of regulars and both teams have had basically the same preparation...show a bit of faith lads, there's feck all at stake saturday night so why are ye so afraid of losing??
Quotebecause you have as many new guys as we have.
casey hasn't played any football. etc.
a new full back
a 19 year old kicking frees-
cullen-whelan-quinn-cahill that's as many as you're misssing). so don't give us that load of b*****.
Hmmm...typical Dub bulls**t again from Josey
- doesn't matter what age you are if you can knock over frees (and Mossy was hardly the most reliable)
- Cullen, Whelan, Quinn, Cahill = 4 players, Tyrone are missing 7 regulars - can't you count?
- a new full back -were the other options any better
Dublin should take tihs handy.
Tyroneman...
I suppose you do have a point, tyrone will be pretty poor missing 7 players, think ye proved that last yr in the champo when ye got a few injuries drawing with Louth and losing to Laois.
Obviously what your trying to say is that ye have no strength in depth and the dubs have cant argue with you there...point well made!
BTW the dubs are missing 8 starters from last years All-Ireland semi and you still think we'll beat ye easily, I know ye're subs are bad but they're not that bad are they?? Surely they'll be able to keep the score respectable
Our old friend the 'champo' makes a welcome return on threads involving dublin ???
Listen lads ill tell ye something for nothing, having seen that Dublin team and thought a bit more Id be surprised if our second string wouldnt beat ye handy enough...
Last year it wasnt a lack of strength in depth, the injuries were to the KEY players. This year though through a major revamp there is a lot of new faces, from the 2001, 2004 all ireland minor winning teams etc. There is plenty of better youth in tyrone coming through than in dublin. Tyrone will be agood bet for the all ireland minor again this year too
tyrone man i've got my abacus out - maybe things are different up north.
1- cullen
2- whelan
3- ryan
4- cahill
5- shocko
6- cosgrove/sherlock
7- quinn
7 maybe 8 who can't count now????????????
At the end of the day, as Steigmaster has already said, doesnt matter who wins at weekend. Both teams wont be full strength and its only a league game.
Tyrone this year can mount a challenge to be the first county to win an AlL Ireland minor u21 and senior in the one year, In reality I think its nigh impossible but you have to give it a shot, we could just as easily lose all.. theres a lot of football to get played between now and September
There's a photo of two great GAA role models on the front of this morning's IN! Cover your childrens' eyes. :)
INDIANA
Maybe you should get yr spectacles out as well as yr abacus..............the post I repluied to only listed 4 players
Quotecullen-whelan-quinn-cahill
(so I presume you can't count also?)
Anyhow........all kidology aside ..really looking forward to it
Would that be the same 2 guys posted in the picture on Pg 22? ;)
Are they using the flourescent yellow ball this Saturday night?
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Quote from: Pietas on January 31, 2007, 01:01:15 PM
Our old friend the 'champo' makes a welcome return on threads involving dublin ???
Champo is a class word dont knock it...p.s. its short for championship just in case you dint get that!
thanks for pointing that out ::)
Quote from: realredhandfan on January 31, 2007, 01:29:00 PM
Listen lads ill tell ye something for nothing, having seen that Dublin team and thought a bit more Id be surprised if our second string wouldnt beat ye handy enough...
Finally a tyrone man backs his team to win...your a brave man putting your neck on the line like that
Quote from: Stagmeister on January 31, 2007, 11:20:24 AM
Cant believe Moran keeps getting his game at centre back, he's proved time and again that he's just not good enough.
I dont follow this. Moran has played very few games for the Dubs at centre back - I'd say I've seen most of the games he has played for the Dubs in the half-back line, and I cant remember him having a bad game there. So why do you say "he's proved time and again" that he's not up to playing centre back for the Dubs?
Certrainly, we'd need to be low on options before I'd play him in the forwards. Personally I'd rate Moran as our best left half back - though Brennan now has the opportunity to make his case for that position and may well overtake him.
When I say he's proved time and again that he's not good enough I dont mean specifically his performances at CB. I think he has been poor wherever he has played for dublin half back or half forward and has proved that he is not good enough to play anywhere on the team. I know this sounds harsh but I just think its unfair on other lads on the panel that Moran keeps getting his game ahead of them when he isn't performing at all.
QuoteBTW the dubs are missing 8 starters from last years All-Ireland semi
There's a difference between not being selected and not being available through injury or suspension! ::)
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 31, 2007, 02:38:04 PM
QuoteBTW the dubs are missing 8 starters from last years All-Ireland semi
There's a difference between not being selected and not being available through injury or suspension! ::)
Whats your point?? If they're not playing they're not playing...thats possibly the stupidest comment of all time! :o
Is that you Bobby Robson???
Jesus boys, there's sh1te being talked in the last few pages of this thread.
ie my team is weaker/ slower/ younger/ less experienced / less fit than yours.
Truth is in recent years both these teams are usually relatively well on in terms of fitness levels at this time of the year. Both have decent panels. Both have done fairly well in their respective pre-season comps. Both teams will show a comparable mix of established players and those who are trying to break through.
Defeat on Saturday will not be the end of the world for either team and both will hope to put in better performances later in the year than they do on Saturday.
Really looking forward to the match and I hope that it is an occasion that my kids will want to mention to their kids.
As befits my birthplace Tyrone by 2 or 3
QuoteWhats your point?? If they're not playing they're not playing
My point is (and it seems I need to spell it out) is that you cannot equate the loss of players who are suspended or injured but would otherwise walk onto the team, with players who are dropped 'cos they are not considered good enough or are a utility player.
So are you honestly trying to say that the starting 15 named by Caffrey for the tyrone match is Dublins best 15??
That Whelan, Ryan, Sherlock, Mossy Quinn, Bryan Cullen, Goggins are now considered not good enough to make dublins first 15 and have been overtaken in the pecking order by the likes of Brennan, Murray and Connolly who I dont think have a minute of Championship experience between them?? Who are ya trying to kid??
Yeah Mulligan will be dunging them all right.
He has just played in two all ireland finals hitting frees in both. Played about 7 or eight games in croker in 2005 season. In fact he has probably played more games in Croke than most of the Dublin team have.
QuoteSo are you honestly trying to say that the starting 15 named by Caffrey for the tyrone match is Dublins best 15??
Where have I said that?
QuoteSo are you honestly trying to say that the starting 15 named by Caffrey for the tyrone match is Dublins best 15??
& where has Caffery neamed the starting 15?
its on hill16.ie was posted here earlier as well, its a decent enough team but missing a few players will definitely be playing in the championship
Quote from: Stagmeister on January 31, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
its on hill16.ie was posted here earlier as well, its a decent enough team but missing a few players will definitely be playing in the championship
I am a bit worried about the middle of the park with no Tank (Ryan) or Whelan i know they are on the bench and they can be sprung if needed but i'd feel better with one of them starting
Well lads, how many of us are meeting up after the game? Say the Skylon - will you be there around 10pm?
Quote from: Gnevin on January 31, 2007, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: Stagmeister on January 31, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
its on hill16.ie was posted here earlier as well, its a decent enough team but missing a few players will definitely be playing in the championship
I am a bit worried about the middle of the park with now Tank (Ryan) or Whelan i know they are on the bench and they can be sprung if needed but i'd feel better with one of them starting
Glad to see how Magee and O'Mahony do in teh middle themselves - Magee has looked good in the O'Byrne Cup and is a good player when match-fit and O'Mahony definitely will be an option going forward....
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 11:30:11 PM
Well lads, how many of us are meeting up after the game? Say the Skylon - will you be there around 10pm?
Might have a better chance of catching a pint with you in the big tree or somewhere
O'Neill? just trying to throw thon big scary Dub that was looking for you last
week off the trail :D
Quote from: Stagmeister on January 31, 2007, 02:36:10 PM
When I say he's proved time and again that he's not good enough I dont mean specifically his performances at CB. I think he has been poor wherever he has played for dublin half back or half forward and has proved that he is not good enough to play anywhere on the team. I know this sounds harsh but I just think its unfair on other lads on the panel that Moran keeps getting his game ahead of them when he isn't performing at all.
I find it hard to fathom how anybody could say the Collie has been poor for Dublin when played in the half back line. But everyone's entitled to their opinion. Collie has done very well for the Dubs when played there, but thats been all too rare to form a conclusive opinion on whether he should be a championship starter in the half back line.
Of course anyone willing to judge him on his performances when played out of position in the half forward line, could well come to your opinion. But my opinion is that is very short sighted. He's been one of the best half backs in Dublin football for about 4 years - I'm sure Caffrey's plan last year was to have him as left half back, but injury put pay to that. so he deserves his chance to have a run at a half back position this year.
I'll see you in the Skylon then O'Neill and lets see if you'll utter Jackeen there. How will I know it's you? Any identifiable charactertistics apart from the shite drippling from your chin?
Forkinknife awat ta fook of da board yor gee in me da piles.. Arsewipe
Someone I know is after 2 tickets.
Anyone have any spares?
QuoteI'll see you in the Skylon then O'Neill and lets see if you'll utter Jackeen there. How will I know it's you? Any identifiable charactertistics apart from the shite drippling from your chin?
Typical cheeky Dub. We have a lot to look forward too
QuoteI am a bit worried about the middle of the park with no Tank (Ryan) or Whelan i know they are on the bench and they can be sprung if needed but i'd feel better with one of them starting
HAve Dublin finally realised that whelan is only good for 20 mins ??
Cheeky Dubs
QuoteI'll see you in the Skylon then O'Neill and lets see if you'll utter Jackeen there
I'm sure RRHF isn't too bothered about Forkinknife as he's probably just like the Dubs each year - full of intention but when it comes to it, absolutely no delivery! :D
really looking forward to this
hope the weather is good
hope we get a good game like the last few croker games between these teams
hope there is a nice wee row on the pitch to get the atmosphere going ! ;)
hope the cheeky dubs and occassionally even cheekier tyronies done have some of their 'undesirable' elements along supporting on the night as they usually end up causing trouble
that would be a disaster for such a momentous night
Is Rte showing this match at all or is just setanta?
Thaught that is was just setanta but was lying on the couch hungover after a night out paying little attention to the tv and could have sworn that i seen a add for rte saying that they were showing it as well,
Wud love to think RTE wud show it but canlt see how Senanta wud be prepared to pay fot it and charge their subscribers for it if RTE were allowed to show it for nowt?
QuoteMemories....Charlie Redmond, Paddy Russell, Jason Sherlock, Canavan crying....smashin nordie cars windies an stealin the stereos wit anto.......
::)
Just got a couple of tickets last min in the club, Happy Days. ;D ;D ;D Big Tree, Gills before, Quinns after for the shaulderin...
Shud b a cracking game on saturday nite. Mugsy wonder goal to give Tyrone the winning start! I hear Dooher and Gormley are flying in training and cud b in action in next couple of weeks. anybody hear any inside news.
Any odds on first goal scorer, cant access gambling sites in the job???
:o :o :o
How Paddy Power are describing it
QuoteFights Under Lights
Sat 7.30pm Live on Set. Irl
Money-Back Special
If there are two or more players sent off in this Saturday night's opening league fixture between Dublin and Tyrone at Croke Park, Paddy Power will refund all losing 1st goalscorer, last goalscorer, anytime goalscorer and winning margin bets on this game. of this game.
Some more bets from Boyle Sports
Selection Price
No Player To Be Sent Off 4/6
A Player To Be Sent Off 11/10
Any Dublin Player To Be Sent Off 9/4
Any Tyrone Player To Be Sent Off 9/4
Player From Both Teams To Be Sent Off 11/2
A Goal To Be Scored In The 1st 10 Minutes 5/1
A Goal To Be Scored Direct From A Penalty 11/2
A Clean Catch To Be Made From The Throw In (1st Half) EVS
Brogan & Mulligan Both To Score A Goal 8/1
Match To Be Delayed By 10 Minutes Or More 7/2
Any Sub To Score A Goal 9/2
Any Sub To Be Sent Off 14/1
A Yellow Card To Be Issued In The 1st 5 Minutes 9/4
A Dog To Interupt The Match 9/2
Floodlights To Fail 16/1
A Point To Be Scored From Sideline Ball 9/4
Paul Caffrey To Shoulder Charge Micky Harte Before The Match 25/1
Might put a few quid on the last one :D :D :D
QuoteA Dog To Interupt The Match 9/2
That looks like a winner.
Any of the cheeky dubs got a small dog that can be put under a jacket ( Please refrain from jason sherlock Jokes lads!)
If thats true its a great price........
Whats the odds on a streaker ????
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 01, 2007, 03:47:38 PM
A Dog To Interupt The Match 9/2
Hopefully Mary Harneys not going!!!
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With Cavlan and Mugsy playing - I'd say get your money on it
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How much for a drunken dub to fall off the upper tier?
Any chance we can get the dog bet sorted lads?
QuoteHow much for a drunken dub to fall off the upper tier?
Over the Bar, im dissapointed. It is a Cheeky drunken dub !!!!
Any roadworks on the way from the M1 - Newry - Dublin at the minute?
(I need to make sure i'm there in time for the fisticuffs with forkinknife - he pm'd me about a choice of venue. We're fighting in the Skylon at 10pm)
Forkinknife, ye really dont know what you are messing with here. Shane yoused to court some of the roughest women in Lochanuir, he can go longer than Dooher; is bigger than Rouse; harder than hub and can duck and dive like an Armagh man..
Ill tell ye lads the GAA world would be a lot duller without Mugsy. That photo says it all. Tyrone a county of dog lovers
Is Cavlan really back in the panel? ???
This must be the most hyped up non AI match of all time.
Match to be delayed by 10 mins, must be a cert
QuoteMatch To Be Delayed By 10 Minutes Or More 7/2
What if I phoned in a bomb scare? I most get my £200 for the bed, and my 10c for the phone ready.
the code word is, red monkey, repeat red monkey
I've a brother nicknamed Red Monkey and this could cause the utmost confusion to be honest.
P McConnell, R McMenamin, C McGinley, M McGee, D Harte, D Carlin, M Penrose, M Murphy, S Cavanagh, R Mulgrew, O Mulligan, C Cavanagh, R Mellon, C Donnelly, E McGinley.
"Match To Be Delayed By 10 Minutes Or More 7/2 "
That is in my opinion very generous odds...
I suppose the omission of Rouse is some kind of surprise as he did seem to impress moreso than Donnelly. Murphy at midfield is another. Mickey appears to rate him highly athough it was doubtful whether Hughes had shown enough so far to start. The attacking half back line as chosen will expose the full backs. Murray, Brogan and Connolly will either have the legs run off them or find themselves with acres of room.....
Mulligan impressed as CHF against Derry but that was because he was given room. Moran will surely not offer the same conditions.
Jaysus - Penrose at HB I predict a disaster.
Cavo must be a wee bit disappointed not to make that team.
The bench should be fairly strong with Gormley, Cavlan, Rouse, Hughes and McGuigan ready if needed.
Quote from: ONeill on February 01, 2007, 09:47:16 PM
P McConnell, R McMenamin, C McGinley, M McGee, D Harte, D Carlin, M Penrose, M Murphy, S Cavanagh, R Mulgrew, O Mulligan, C Cavanagh, R Mellon, C Donnelly, E McGinley.
Few surprises there and I thought we might have seen more than 2 debuts. Never been convinced about McGinley at FB and hoped a younger man would be given a run of games there in the league. Mugsy hasnt been the answer at no.11 in the past and would prefer to see him in the full forward line. Big day for the likes of Carlin and Murphy to prove they are worthy of a start.
Agree entirely Mugsy is def no CHF. Needs to have a big game on Sat as our "Marquee Forward" (C) Brolly
McGinley has some kind of indian sign over MH the way he keeps that FB spot and to be honest the HB line looks very worrying.
Ryan Mellon has done little since the 2005 final to justify selection although he may be in to make up a 3rd MF if the Dubs start to take a grip there.
Still - bench does look good.
Quote from: realredhandfan on February 01, 2007, 02:31:50 PM
Q: If these teams were to meet in the league final would the same sell out status arise?
Dublin in the league final would be a guaranteed sell-out regardless of the opposition. If it was Dublin v Tyrone the demand would be such that there'd be talk of moving the Div 2 final out of Croker. But perhaps getting a bit ahead of ourselves ;)
Quote"Match To Be Delayed By 10 Minutes Or More 7/2 "
That is in my opinion very generous odds...
I tend to agree, however with the game being televised worldwide and sponsors expectations, I'd expect the officials have been told it's to start on time, whether the crowds are their seats or not.
It's up to the gardaí over the bar, if there are safety concerns the throw in will be delayed. They should take measures to thin the crowds approaching the turnstiles and therefore lessen safety concerns and then make sure throw in happens on time in order to teach latecomers to turn early next time like everyone else.
According to the Daily Mirror Cavo isn't even on the bench - you would have to assume some sort of injury???
Few suprises in mickys selection...the fact that cavo didnt make the 30 is somewat suprising. Others who should feel unlucky are big rousy and tomy mc guigan. Overall all, solid enough at the back, midfield fine, no-one seems to rate young murphy, and wasnt mentioned on the board for his 3 points against derry, somewhat harsh i thought, hell be fine, as hes in great shape and the start will do his confidence the world of good. As for up front colm donnelly at full forward is a suprise althought he did seemingly go very well at training tuesday night...all in all its warming up nicely, i predict a dublin win due to a lack or proven score getters in the tyrone inside lines....
Quote from: tyroneman on February 02, 2007, 08:52:47 AM
According to the Daily Mirror Cavo isn't even on the bench - you would have to assume some sort of injury???
Who all have made the bench? Be interesting guide to the National League panel?
Mellon will need a big performance as he was one of established stars that I suspected needed to start showing it again from 05 to stay in the panel. Mc ginley looked tubby 2 weeks ago. I wonder is this a case of Mickey buying into the hype and the big crowd and reverting back to type and comfort zone selection , I am disappointed with the level of innovative thought put into this team. It looks more like our championshiop teams last year than our Mc Kenna cup this year. i know which Id prefer. We can use this game to give lads experience that the youth couldnt buy. This is the game for Rouse. I dont like Murphy at midfield Hughes is a much better qulaity footballer in midfield, but hasnt an honorary all Ireland medal. Disappointed with the selection of Penrose - a hark bask to odd notions big Art used to have ie: Ciaran Loughran at no 10. Still its only a league match and I doubt that Dublin team could expose too much. i think Hartes fear of defeat has clouded his judgement. Expect early changes.
I dont like Murphy at midfield Hughes is a much better qulaity footballer in midfield, but hasnt an honorary all Ireland medal.
realredhandfan, you talk about micky giving lads a chance, you arent exactly favouring giving a lad a chance.........
Quote from: Mac Eoghain on February 02, 2007, 08:57:26 AM
I heard that the players only managed to get 3 tickets each for the match, frigging disgrace.
how many do you think they should get?
How many years is he on the panel now. When these guys (the wider panel) were needed last year they didnt count. That we know. the ALL Ireland champions did not make the last 16 of the competition last year.. not good enough the Penroses etc of this world methinks. How many games did Murphy play since he cam onto the Tyrone panel? I dont see him every week at training Mickey does...
I detect some bewilderment from quite a few of my fellow Tyrone posters regarding the team selection for Saturday night. Like I stated in an earlier post there was no guarantee Rouse would start, you should never assume anything with Mickey Harte and dont be so sure about him going down the route of the big full forward - he will do his usual thing i.e. analyse the players available and come up with what he thinks is the best system to get the optimum level of performance out of them.
For all the excellent attributes Mickey Harte brings to the table as a manager one of the ones he has that opens him to criticism at times is fierce loyalty to his players. He does seem to rate certain players that the vast majority of Tyrones footballing followers are not so sure about such as Penrose, Murphy, Cormac McGinley etc.
I will be very interested to see how Penrose, Murphy, Colm Cavanagh and Mulgrew perform on saturday night. I am not sure about Penrose or Murphy I have seen both play at club and county on a number of occasions and to be honest neither strike me as being up to this level.
Mulgrew has potential and been different class at underage level but the step up is massive - I remember Mcguigan telling me it took him 2 years to adopt.
Colm Cavanagh has potential too and deserves a chance the main thing I would be worried about with him is he could go down the road of Sean and get too greedy unwilling to part with the ball.
Definitely think Tommy should have started, in my opinion he is further ahead of both Mulgew and Cavanagh in his football development and is a better option at the moment.
I agree.
murphy was injured during last years games against laois, louth etc didnt you see him against derry? was he rubbish that day? Kevin hughes is the obvious choice at midfield but give the lad a chance...as for penrose, he must be very confused at the munite...given that as soon as jordan returns hell be back at 7.
Lads, maybe you ae looking at this as a big game and Mickey is looking past all the hype and calling oit for what it is - the first league game of the season and it doesn't matter to him if there are 80 spectators or 80,000. His sights are set on the 3rd Sunday in September and the likes of Tommy McGuigan, Rouse etc., will all get plenty of opportunity to state their case for a championship starting postion between now & May. KEEP THE FAITH! TIR EOGHAIN ABú!!
Yeah can anyone post who is on the subs bench?
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few changes to that team before the start.
I think this will be a good game. Dublin might just nick it but it definitely won't be easy. They'll have to play well to win.
Quote from: Quarterback on February 02, 2007, 09:43:37 AM
murphy was injured during last years games against laois, louth etc didnt you see him against derry? was he rubbish that day? Kevin hughes is the obvious choice at midfield but give the lad a chance...as for penrose, he must be very confused at the munite...given that as soon as jordan returns hell be back at 7.
I never said the lad was rubbish just that I was not sure about him. yes I was at the Derry game and he scored 3 good point but in my opinion contributed not a lot in the midfield area. I would take great delight in seeing him star on saturday night and showing he will be a serious option for the middle of the field in the business end of the championship, at the moment we appear short in midfield and need a partner for Cavanagh, hub is the obvious choice but he needs to get some fitness and form back.
The way I would look at Mickeys selection for saturday is that he is giving a number of lads who have been kicking around the panel for a few years an excellent chance to push themselves into serious reckoning for a first team spot. What better way to do that than go out and perform well in a high profile, sell out game in croke park in february (in any other year this would be unheard of).
he didnt count agaimnst derry in midfield but scored 3 points from 21 yards. I thought cavanagh was our attacking midfielder.
Here here, lets get behind that lads and less of the criticising!
looking forward to it lads
what time are we singing GSTQ (as practice for the rugby)
I agree totally with some of the above comments. What was quite evident last year was a weak bench. I think Harte is giving these lads a chance to increase the overall competition. He has stated publically many times he wants competition, not only for the first 15 but competiton to get into the squad of 30.
He has also stated he will be usuing 36-38 players this year, but as above , dont be suprised to see some early changes
To be honest with the league changing to a Div 1, 2, 3 & 4 it is even more important to come in the top 4 this year to safeguard your place for the following seasons....
After last years poor results I thought Tyrone would have been looking to get a good confidence boost and try to avoid giving a major opposition for the Championship a boost....something like Dublin avoided doing by beating Laois last weekend.....in my mind a very good result for teh self-belief by winning a really tight game even when things going against them...
This game has DRAW written all over it!
Quote from: snappiered on February 02, 2007, 08:56:48 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 02, 2007, 08:52:47 AM
According to the Daily Mirror Cavo isn't even on the bench - you would have to assume some sort of injury???
Who all have made the bench? Be interesting guide to the National League panel?
Tyrone forced to run with youth Friday, February 2
Tyrone manager Mickey Harte has been forced into naming an relatively inexperienced side for Saturday night's Allianz National Football League opener against Dublin.
The O'Neill County boss is without Brian Dooher (knee), Brian McGuigan (leg), Conor Gormley (ankle), Stephen O'Neill (suspension), Ciaran Gourley (ankle) and John Devine (collarbone).
Regular netminder Pascal McConnell returns to goal after Devine sustained an injury whilst training at Croke Park during the week.
Brothers Sean and Colm Cavanagh have been included at midfield and left wing forward respectively, while Mickey Murphy has been handed a start alongside Sean in the middle of the park.
Former Minor star Raymond Mulgrew will join Owen Mulligan and Colm Cavanagh across the 45.
TYRONE: P McConnell; R McMenamin, C McGinley, M McGee; D Harte, D Carlin, M Penrose; M Murphy, S Cavanagh; R Mulgrew, O Mulligan, C Cavanagh; R Mellon, C Donnelly, E McGinley.
Subs: J Curran, B Boggs, P Donnelly, C Gormley, N Gormley, Kelvin Hughes, Kevin Hughes, C McCarron, D McCaul, C McCullagh, T McGuigan, J McMahon, P Quinn, P Rouse, D Treanor.
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Agree a draw at 7/1 might be worth a E10 flutter.
I could be wrong but heard that in terms of attendance the dublin tyrone match will the biggest sporting advent in the world during the weekend,even more than the superbowl on sunday night which will have a crowd of 75,000!!
If this is true its amazing that the league match, which is only the second tier competition in football can attract such a crowd given its the first round and not even a final!
I know the major attraction is because its underlights but even still!!
QuoteI could be wrong but heard that in terms of attendance the dublin tyrone match will the biggest sporting advent in the world during the weekend,even more than the superbowl on sunday night which will have a crowd of 75,000!!
You are right - attendance wise - it's the biggest sporting event this weekend
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 02, 2007, 12:32:07 PM
looking forward to it lads
what time are we singing GSTQ (as practice for the rugby)
Lynchboy you generally don't sing a different nations anthem ::)
There's bound to be some way we can delay the throw in for 5 hours so O'Neill can start.
Are there still any tickets left or is it all a sell out??
What about a sit down protest during the sawdoctors. lads Ive found my pub in London I believe Im drinking in a place called Covent Garden - an Irish pub with setanta. Lets hope that Tyrone do the business and forkinknife gets to the skylon for 7 00PM. Have a good un.
I'l be watching from The Heritage Bar in Yonkers New york!! Cant feckin wait! :)
QuoteI could be wrong but heard that in terms of attendance the dublin tyrone match will the biggest sporting advent in the world during the weekend,even more than the superbowl on sunday night which will have a crowd of 75,000!!
If this is true its amazing that the league match, which is only the second tier competition in football can attract such a crowd given its the first round and not even a final!
I know the major attraction is because its underlights but even still!!
Not necessarily the biggest sporting crowd. It'll be a very close call anyway, Twickenham is also sold out AFAIK and it has a capacity of 82,000 while Croker has an extra 500. We'll have to wait for official confirmation before we can decide it It's still no mean feat for a national league game though!
Quote from: Gnevin on February 02, 2007, 02:40:46 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 02, 2007, 12:32:07 PM
looking forward to it lads
what time are we singing GSTQ (as practice for the rugby)
Lynchboy you generally don't sing a different nations anthem ::)
a lot wont be singing a different nations anthem
(I dont even mean tyrone here!)
:o
sure half of them rugby boyos wouldnt either know the difference or would be quite adept of happy to sing it anyway
its a nice wee ditty and tune to it though
Will anyone be recording the game on DVD and could send me a copy? If so I'll swap it for any of my Tyrone DVDs which go back to the 1986 ulster game v Cavan! PM me if you'd be happy to do a swap! cheers
any radio stations carrying the game?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 02, 2007, 10:06:17 PM
any radio stations carrying the game?
Q101 commentator Paddy Hunter and analyst Noel McGinn
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 02, 2007, 06:26:41 PM
Will anyone be recording the game on DVD and could send me a copy? If so I'll swap it for any of my Tyrone DVDs which go back to the 1986 ulster game v Cavan! PM me if you'd be happy to do a swap! cheers
Shit, if i could figure out how to get the dgital stations through to my DVD player i'd happily record the match for you on the sunday repeat, but they wont tune in for me. sorry boss.
Quote from: Red Nose Red Hand on February 02, 2007, 10:15:04 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 02, 2007, 10:06:17 PM
any radio stations carrying the game?
Q101 commentator Paddy Hunter and analyst Noel McGinn
If you want to listen to it online...
http://wm9.easystream.co.uk/q101audio?.wma
Quote from: tayto on February 02, 2007, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 02, 2007, 06:26:41 PM
Will anyone be recording the game on DVD and could send me a copy? If so I'll swap it for any of my Tyrone DVDs which go back to the 1986 ulster game v Cavan! PM me if you'd be happy to do a swap! cheers
Shit, if i could figure out how to get the dgital stations through to my DVD player i'd happily record the match for you on the sunday repeat, but they wont tune in for me. sorry boss.
There's a fellow on ebay selling them already!
Croke's lights are ready to shine,
The Saw Doctors are doing fine,
Will Mugsy explode?
Show Dublin the road?
Or will Brogan catch fire, the swine!
Quote from: loughshore lad on January 31, 2007, 08:53:27 AM
As for the game on Saurday I will wait to see what team Tyrone put out before making any predictions. Tyrone posters on here dont seem to be aware of the fact that Tyrones team on Saturday night will apparently be drawn from their McKenna cup panel - some of the potential teams have included Justin McMahon.
TYRONE: P McConnell; R McMenamin, C McGinley, M McGee; D Harte, D Carlin, M Penrose; M Murphy, S Cavanagh; R Mulgrew, O Mulligan, C Cavanagh; R Mellon, C Donnelly, E McGinley.
Subs: J Curran, B Boggs, P Donnelly, C Gormley, N Gormley, Kelvin Hughes, Kevin Hughes, C McCarron, D McCaul, C McCullagh, T McGuigan,
Justin McMahon, P Quinn, P Rouse, D Treanor.
8)
With much fanfare and expectant delights
Tyrone and the Dubs come to turn on the lights
There'll be plenty to talk about and little aggro
As there's no Dooher or the bould Whelo
But what'll we do to raise a right cheer
As all the capital's fans will stay on the beer
With the Sawdoctors singing to themselves alone
There'll be lights on but nobody home
At 15 minutes gone there's to be a mighty rush
Up to the turnstiles like cattle to a crush
As they mill in and push on through
The Hill will belt out You boys in blue
Expectations as the match starts to flow
The ground will light up and sway as they go
T'will all hinge on a bit of flash
As Mugsy feigns left and gives it a lash
Its all over now and Croker is left black
And next comes O'Driscoll and the foreign attack
But what's to be feared of t'is only a game
Sure they only killed Hogan and its only a name
Mon the Red Hands get into the jackeen bas***ds just like 2005...
Quote from: sam03/05 on February 03, 2007, 08:55:40 AM
Mon the Red Hands get into the jackeen bas***ds just like 2005...
my jaysus.
Just setting off now on the journey to Dublin. Looking forward to it and think it will be a decent game no matter how many All-Stars are missing for Tyrone. I'll be very interested to see how players like Murphy, Mulgrew, C Cavanagh and Donnelly get on and how the Penrose experiment at wing half back turns out. Dermy at CHB is another I'm looking forward to.
Playing Dublin in Croke Park in front of a full house is always an exciting possibility and defeat wouldn't be too devastating in the circumstances.
I'll also be interested to see how many pages of comments the match will produce on this thread when its over, seeing that we are already at page 32 before the match starts. I do hope there is no repeat of last year's shambles and no fighting on here afterwards!
Should be a cracker mayo!
Whats throw in time?
Coverage is started on Setanta now at 6pm. The main lights aren't on yet, but there seems to be quite a few in the stands! There are some kids from each county with flags lining up to parade, it must be cold for them.
Whats happenin on the telly with it now? talking?
The saw doctors are shite on the TV! The drummer has a Galway geansai and Mikasa gloves on him and a coopers helmet as well now.
Bring back the Brush.
Eugene Magee reckons the teams might get caught up in the hype of the occasion with the lights and the Saw Doctors. Somehow I doubt it.
Paul Earley reckons having the Saw Doctors playing might be some kind of western omen for later in the year. Again I doubt it. ;)
Jackeens are on the pitch with yellow footballs. Croker filling up but lots of gaps yet.
Game on
scorable free dropped short by Keaney
Wide by Cavanagh.
The other Cavanagh has had a wide too. Colm this time
Free to Dublin and a point by Dermot Connolly 0-1 to 0-0
Jacks are on top so far, Connolly make a good move and Brogan gets the point 0-2 to 0-0
The men from the bushes are struggling, and the man with the bushy eyebrow might need to make changes.
Free to Mulligan gets his point 0-2 to 0-1 , lots of booing from the Dubs but thats the nature of the beast.
Tyrone back in the game , Penrose off the post and Mellon puts it wide at the second attempt
Brogan to Connolly and with a good dummy, 0-3 to 0-1
Connolly to Brogan and back to Connolly, its now 0-4 to 0-1
Brogan stuck in everything, feeds Keaney and another point 0-5 to 0-1
Wide by Connolly with the build up again through Brogan
Yellow card for Paul Casey for a high tackle, Free to Sean Cavanagh 0-5 and 0-2.
Streaker time .... cold night for that carry on.
Tyrone caught watching the streaker , but Dub score again through O'Callaghan 0-6 to 0-2.
Poor kick outs by the keeper with the big thumbs.
Brennan gets another yellow for the Dubs.
Long range point from Henry 0-7 to 0-1.
Unibrow need to make changes, he's trying to call down a wee baldy lad from the Hogan stand to see if he will tog out.
Wide from Tyrone, sorry it 0-7 to 0-2 I'm caught up in the excitement
The Saw Doctors provided more entertainment than Tyrone and thats saying something.
Dub seem to be fitter and more driven, but their "Adidas" Jerseys leave alot to be desired, yellow ball is cack.
Another wide for Tyrone.
Brennan hauls down Mulligan again, could be in trouble, Yellow card for Mulligan.
Colm Cavanagh has another wide for the Tyronites. Nearly HT , I'm away to put on the kettle.
Sean Cavanagh with a poor 45.
Dubs counter attack but Keaney puts wide. Yellow card for Brogan I think
Feck it I've no biscuits for the cup of tea.
It HT 0-7 to 0-2,
Jackeens are better Tyrone seems to be struggling around midfield and their backs are porous.
Unibrow will be smashing the cup of tae off the dressing room wall.
Pillar will be happy with display, Connolly look like a real find.
croke looks class under lights. Sitting with a cup of tea and ginger nuts watching the game live in New York at home- class.
Tyrone look like they haven't played together in a while, a couple of changes and I'd say they could put a good run together in the second half. How many are going to walk though. The game hasn't been dirty- Dublin are committing "smart" fouls, but McEnaney is penalising for them for it and rightly so, though its something you would often get away with. Tyrone don't look as comfortable on the ball as they usually do- nor as organised at thats something that you expect from Mickey Harte.
Looking forward to the second half
time for a few changes Mickey - Paul Rouse, Colm McCullagh, Conor Gormley and Kevin Hughes
Is Gormley fit enough/match ready at this stage?
thanks for the update, i am unsuccessfully trying to watch it on setanta, am getting access denied message. now having a cup of tea myself.
Would love a ginger nut.
Entertaining game to be sure Heganboy, tyrone not in it so far but expect to see a different side of them in the second half.
Lights look well wonder what its like actually at the game, will have a ticket for the rugger next weekend so will see then.
Joemamas: go back a few pages there is a web link of some northern radio station covering the game live.
Quote from: down22 on February 03, 2007, 07:47:38 PM
Is Gormley fit enough/match ready at this stage?
he played in the allstars match last weekend in dubai, im sure we can get a half out of him. We desperately need him to shore up that defence. Carlin in having a nightmare - Brogan is ripping us apart!!
McCullogh and Hughes are on it second half time.
Owen Mulligan with a free 0-7 to 0-3
Tyrone getting stuck in now must have got a bollixing at HT
Long range point from Mulgrew, 0-7 to 0-4 game on.
got it on rte radio, your countyman would make a funeral sound exicting
Brogan shot well saved by Thumbs. Free to Jackeens.
Connolly adds another point, 0-8 to 0-4
Gormley is on for Penrose. Dubs still on top
Cavanagh kicks a fine point from away out. 0-8 to 0-5
Shane Ryan on for Darran Magee
Connolly kicks another free 09-05
Point by Carlin 09-06
Byyan Cullen is on to a big cheer for O'Mahony
Colm Cavanagh kicks a good point , 09-07 Exciting stuff now
Wide by Kevin Hughes
finally logged in to setanta. great game for february
McCullagh kicks another point and its down to a point game, 09-08
Wide by Tyrone
McGinley and Sean Cavanagh playing well, but another bad wide by Hughes
Tyrone's finishing poor, they will regret that if Dublin stay ahead.
Moran gets a yellow for drag back on the Blonde
Mulligan kicks the equaliser, it 0-9 each
class point by mulligan to level it up
all to play for now!! COME ON TYRONE!!
McGinley wide after a good move involving 5 players.
But then Mulgrew gives the leads to Tyrone 10-09
Canavan puts the tracksuit back on and heads for his seat in the Hogan
tyrone up by 1 with 5mins to go 10-9
another wide by tir-eoghan
McGuigan on for Tyrone
Goggins on for Dubs
dublin 0-9 tyrone 0-11
Free in for Tyrone, point by Mulligan, Bushes lead Jackeens 11-09
dublin 0-10 tyrone 0-11
2 mins to go
Gonna end up a draw!
Dublin point by Bonner 11-10
4 mins to go , including 3 mins extra
wide by Tyrone
draws on
the wee rats gone
McMenamin Gone.
Red card for McMenimen!!!!!!!!
yellow for McGuigan - Tommy
a draw--good game or will keaney choke??
tyrone have won it
wide.........
feck it, I had a few Euro on the draw!
Free to Jackeens. Gormley yellow Keaney kicks short to Brogan, its keaney but wide.
tir eoghan r back
Tyrone win well in second half, McGinley was my man of the match, good result for them.
that had all you would need from a game- good hard physical national league- no quarter asked or given. Fair play to Tyrone, the played to a game plan in the second half and it worked for them- Dublin looked as if they ran out of steam, an Gormley and Hughes made a massive difference, stifled a lot of the space that Dublin saw in the first half. McCullagh sparked a bit of life in the forward line, his movement off the ball was excellent- Mulligan played very well in the second half. Sticks in my throat but McMenamin was very impressive- stupid sending off though- thats at least 4 weeks for him and he'll be badly missed.
I enjoyed that, these night games could catch on, ten times the value of a premiership game
Great advert for the sport
great game.
the GAA could have paid millions and not gotten as positive exposure as they got from this game.
My first reaction to watching dublin for the last 30 m ins or so is that they still have a hangover from the Mayo game. What were some of their forwards trying to prove their manhood by focusing soo much on the phyiscal stuff, while tyrone kept scoring points.
Collie Moran will never be a CHB . another one that was too focused on the phyiscal stuff.
Fair play to tyrone,
guess i was wrong about gormley. he was definately match fit. great game.
was it a good game. didnt c it.
Overall a very good game, the proverbial game of 2 halves. Tyrone were unbeilevably bad in the first half, I've never seen them as uncordinated and they were basically bullied by the Dubs. The injection of experience in the second half made a huge difference, Gormley returning the bullying in spades, Hughes adding a bit of clout in Mf. Sean Cavanagh was undoubtedly the best player on the field.
The Dubs soft underbelly exposed once again.
Just in from Croker.
Like a feckin spaceship. Marvellous. Even managed to miss the Sawdoctors.
Same old same old from Dublin. Tyrone didnt look to be arsed in first half. Different kettle of fish in second. Cavanaugh immense.
Poor first half from Tyrone. I was sitting in the local and the consenus seemed to be, Tyrone can pull the game back, but they won't win it.
The second half was amazing. Sean was my MoM and Setanta's. Mulligan came out of Canavan's shadow, but still has more to do. Ricey was brilliant in defense, but his temper still got the better of him.
Well done to Tyrone.
Lads - I don't know what it looked like on telly / online but sitting in the Cusack, this was NOT a good game. Exciting finale yes and in fairness some good scores - from Dublin in the first half, from Tyrone in the second - but an awful lot of bad play, bunching and general messing.
The first half was particulary poor and the 'end of season testimonial' crowd didn't help - has there ever been a half at Croke Park with as little atmosphere as that first half??
In fairness the point made early about Tyrone looking like they'd not played together before best sums them up. In the second half at least some individual performances pulled them up but their lack of teamwork was surprising. They were hosed at MF in the first half but the introduction of Hughes turned the game. Leave McCullogh where he is - if he is on the first 15 come the summer, Tyrone won't be good enough to win anything. Mulgrew and Colm Cavanagh on the other hand showed huge amounts of football the prospect of those two improving and combining with some of the seasoned absentees is exciting. Very little combination tonight though. McGinley worked hard and while Mulligan was in and out, he landed the arguably the score of the gamne to equalise. The Tyrone Half backs I though struggled, particularly Carlin on Brogan. Their FBs though had the measure of theri men all through. Sean Cavanagh was probably their best on the night but he tried to do too much himself and, sorry to bring it up this early in the season but..., let's just say he just goes to ground too easily.
Dublin were great while they were winning but died as soon as the opposition revved it up. They won't win anything with the players that were on the pitch this evening. Connolly started brightly but was long gone by the end. Brennan looked the pick of the new boys. Not sure what the point of playing 7 backs and 5 forwards was. Moran is not a CHB. Both MF replaced by 50 mins? Apart from Brogan, very ordinary forwards. Shane Ryan looked 2 stone overweight. Not terribly encouraging for the Dubs.
Thought McEnaney was very inconsistent. Very self important as always. Missed plenty but made a big fuss of spotting fouls ahead of the ball, fell for dives, booked lads for petty offences but not for being slung around or, at one stage, a shoulder in the back.
A few other things about the 'occasion' - I missed the Sawdoctors but lose the Gospel singers for the anthem - the tenors / sopranos are bad enough. And how cringy was the half time 'league of nations' schoolkids display. Who ever thought up that condescending stunt should be ashamed. Thought it was poetic justice that many of the kids 'chosen' never even tried to pick up the ball.
All in all, strip away the hype and fuss, this was a poor league game - everything else was just part of the sideshow. Once the novelty effect wears off, not likely that you'd get great crowds to watch the like of it on a regualr basis
F.A.O. paddypastit
You can't expect the first game in the league on 03rd February to be as good as a championship game at the height of the summer. If you saw the shite that was played in the McKenna Cup by my own county you would think this was a good enough game. I never expected the game to be anything more than an early league game but I still enjoyed it. The hype was all because of the floodlights and because of the Battle of Omagh last year. I'm a Derry man living in Tyrone and had a damned good evening's banter and craic watching in a local pub.
BTW when he did fall over, how many times did he roll?
Still being the proverbial tosspot TYP? :)
Proved my earlier thoughs today, why mc menamin was picked as captain, surely in that role he is a role model for players and childrena dn a inspirational leader.. Cant see him being any
Overall decent enough game
See what I mean Paddy?
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I was giving Paddy a warning before you felt the need to provide personal insult for some reason.
Dont worry TYP, I wasnt giving personal abuse to anyone, and i apologise if you felt i had. I was however just wondering why someone
from Armagh, with such a personal hatred of all things Tyrone, felt the need to work and live in the heart of that county? ??? ???
Tyrone shine under Croke Park lights
Saturday, 3 February 2007 21:37
Dublin faded badly under the Croke Park floodlights as a storming second half from Tyrone saw them take a tense 0-11 to 0-10 victory in the historic National League opener.
With Sean Cavanagh and Owen Mulligan starring, the under strength Red Hands came from five points down and take the Division 1A spoils.
It was Dublin league debutant Diarmuid Connolly who struck the first point on a memorable night for the GAA. The 19-year-old scored twice as the Dubs impressively moved into a 0-7 to 0-2 lead at the break.
But Mickey Harte's Tyrone side, who did not score from play until the 38th-minute, turned it around, despite having skipper Ryan McMenamin sent-off in injury-time.They hit six of the game's final seven points, with Mulligan notching 0-4 (3f), to come good in front of league record crowd of 81,678.
Both sides lined out as selected, with Dublin showing three changes to the side that lifted the O'Byrne Cup last week - David Henry, Paul Casey and Alan Brogan were the new inclusions - while Tyrone handed league debuts to Colm Cavanagh, Sean's younger brother, and Colm Donnelly.
With memories of last year's infamous 'Battle of Omagh' still fresh in the mind, both sides were on their best behaviour, particularly with the GAA's hierarchy in close attendance, and whatever niggle was in the game quickly passed off.
A nervy opening saw Conal Keaney drop a free short and the Cavanagh brothers were wayward with a strike each at the Hill 16 end.
Connolly, one of Dublin's brightest prospects this season, angled over a free, four-and-a-half minutes in, to break the deadlock.
Alan Brogan, who gave Dermot Carlin a torrid time in the first half, added a neat finish from play as the Leinster champions made a cohesive start.
Further scores from Connolly, Darren Magee, when a goal looked on, Conal Keaney and David O'Callaghan sprung Paul Caffrey's charges into a 0-6 to 0-2 lead. A misfiring Tyrone only had two frees to show for their efforts in 20 minutes play, scored by Mulligan and Sean Cavanagh.
Corner-back David Henry darted forward to send over an inspirational 25th-minute point, which Pascal McConnell was forced to tip over the bar, and continuing the trend, Colm Cavanagh tallied up Tyrone's sixth wide, two minutes before the break.
Harte sprung Colm McCullagh and Kevin Hughes from the bench for the second half, and the switches had the desired effect as Tyrone quickly moved up through the gears.
Mulligan rapped over a free and Raymond Mulgrew left-footed over from play, whittling Dublin's lead down to three points.
The 40-minute mark saw Caffrey's side take a double scores lead as Keaney sent over a free, after good movement from All-Star Brogan forced Tyrone goalkeeper O'Connell into a good parry.
But then Dublin simply fell off their game, Caffrey replacing Magee at midfield proved to be a costly error as Tyrone dominated centre-field for the remainder, and Conor Gormley, making his first inter-county appearance since breaking his ankle last August, kept Brogan decidedly quiet.
Sean Cavanagh picked off a great point, from 45 yards out, to rally his troops, Connolly swung over a free in reply but that proved to be Dublin's last point for an 18-minute stretch.
Tyrone took over, with defender Carlin jinking his way forward to point, Colm Cavanagh adding another score and substitute McCullagh managed to make it a one-point game - 0-9 to 0-8 - in the 56th-minute.
Dublin's defence, with Niall O'Shea trying manfully to control matters from full-back, gave away too much ball in the closing stages as they allowed the Ulster men to hit them on the counter attack.
Mulligan walloped over a great 61st-minute point, off his right foot, to level and the Tyrone whirlwind continued as Mulgrew brilliantly dummied past Derek Murray to thump over his side's tenth point and from a free won by Colm Cavanagh, Mulligan handed his side a sudden two-point advantage.
A quick attack saw Bonner nab a long-awaited Dublin point as the 12,000-strong Hill particularly sucked the ball through the posts, but there was to be no happy ending for the Dubs, not even a draw as despite McMenamin seeing red for kicking out at Bonner, Tyrone held firm for a smash-and-grab win.
Dublin: S Cluxton; D Henry (0-1), N O'Shea, P Griffin; P Casey, C Moran (capt), G Brennan; D O'Mahony, D Magee (0-1); D Murray, A Brogan (0-1), D Connolly (0-3, 2f); D O'Callaghan (0-1), K Bonner, C Keaney (0-2, 1f).
Subs used: S Ryan for D Magee (49), B Cullen for O'Mahony (54), B Brogan for O'Callaghan (61), C Goggins for Henry (66)
Tyrone: P McConnell; R McMenamin (capt), C McGinley, M McGee; D Harte, D Carlin (0-1), M Penrose; M Murphy, S Cavanagh (0-2, 1f); R Mulgrew (0-2), O Mulligan (0-4, 3f), C Cavanagh (0-1); R Mellon, C Donnelly, E McGinley.
Subs used: C McCullagh (0-1) for Donnelly, K Hughes for Murphy (both half-time), C Gormley for Penrose (46), T McGuigan for E McGinley (66)
Referee: Pat McEnaney (Monaghan)
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2007/0203/tyrone.html
Had a great night and enjoyed the drama of the game. A few observations:
- Now two big screens at Croker. One at the corner of David and Hogan
- Brennan made a speech before switch on. It seemed no one was listening.
-The light switch on was like a Mexican wave. Each one lit up individually in sequence starting at the top of Hogan and moving around the ground. Then the stadium slowly got brighter.
- Only Dublin came out to warm up and approx 10 mins later than the Clár an Óíche stated. All wearing grey tops
- Diarmuid Connelly caught the eye warming up - you know the player that looks class when no one's marking him
- Took a while to find the Gospel Choir and the Saw Doctors who were ensconced at the David/Cusack corner of the field.
- Could have taken or left both the Choir and the Saw Doctors. Wasn't really fussed.
- Dublin came out and went straight for photo
- Dublin then gathered like a pile of iron filings and headed of to the magnetic Dineen Hill 16 - Didn't really capture the imagination but entertaining enough.
- Dubs must have won the toss to come out first and "reclaim" the Dineen Hill 16 :P
-Tyrone came out and kicked around for a bit before coming over for the photo
- Tyrone forward line missing in first half
- Starting to regret earlier opinion of Connelly he looked good
- Brogan played well first half gave Carlin a torrid time
- Ricey played a large part on his own on right wing and no one would switch it to him
- Seemed occasion getting to some Tyrone players - forwards, Penrose, Murphy
- Dubs didn't score much in last 15 of first half
- Dubs defense played well
- Tyrone a lot of wides
- Streaker got a lukewarm reception from ref who played on
- Half time game a sketch - Soccer has already been played at Croker. Green team won four goals to nil. One player had Ronaldo's step over dummy to a tee and as game went on players showed a greater reluctance to pick the ball up. Referee did well though.
- Big screen focused on the full moon for a while during half time - may be the next destination for the All-Stars?
- Second half changes sealed it for Mickey
- Mulgrew showing something of that potential talked about
- Didn't notice yellow ball after a while
- Dubs very quiet on the hill and in fact difficult to hear from Cusack even when making noise.
- Three minutes added time. The announcer laughed before he announced it as if in disbelief :D
- Dublin blew a chance for a draw by not attempting a shot from a free
- Is Pillar really worth his salt?
- Davin end the "scoring" end.
- Dublin City Council have a litter campaign going
- Road works around the perimeter of Croker pitch at the end of the game to stop invasion.
- Travelled down in two hours and home in three. By passes are great. Just hope I never need one!
Small screen at the back of the lower hogan as well.
just home from match,really enjoyed the whole experience of the lights etc,Dublin were awful in the second half and Tyrone deserved their win
Is passedit on the rag or what?
What did you want for the first week in Feb, anyway great win for Tyrone tonight thought they showed a lot of heart in
the 2nd half, i think Hub, Gormley and McCullagh made all the difference in the world when brought in, Brogan wasn't in the game at all
after the switch. A wee bit harsh on Carlin there from some imo, covered a lot of ground,linked well and scored a beautiful point, could well challenge
for Harte's place come summer, still not convinced about C McGinley at #3.
Dublin backs played well but like the rest of the Dublin Team, had a lot of ball played by H/T
Think we'll be in fine shape when we get a few of the big guns back.
Thought Mulgrew had an excellent game for Tyrone last night. Hardly misplaced a pass, scored two excellent points (the second of which was superb), and covered back and tackled really well. Just looks like a class act.
hats off to tyrone- dublin again completed another England cricketing collapse which has been our trademark since the late 1980's.
I often marvel at tyrone's tactical awareness on the line and how they always get it right. They have such highly adaptable players who can play in a variety of positions they have the scope to change their system where as Dublin players can only play in one or two positions.
Tyrone simply have better players than we have and their full whack i believe will win the All-Ireland this year. People will start having a go at the Dublin management again -but I don't think we have the players. Caffrey's mistake was not selecting his best 15 because Dublin should have gone all-out to win their opening game. Some of the newcomers like Connolly and brennan did some good things with the fade-out in the second half from the whole team was remarkable.
I thought both teams were cynical enough - i don't believe dublin lack steel most of the players would tackle a wall- i just think we're not quite good enough and when this tyrone team are finished they will rank as a pretty special outfit as they have5/6 players who wuld compare with any players from any other era.
Firstly, to correct an impression that was clearly created by my earlier post, I didn't expect last night's game to be anything other than an ordinary first round league game - just making the point that many seem to have gotten carried away with the style around it.
Have seen most of it again now on TV replays and with the benefirt of the second perspective it plays better and better for Tyrone. As someone said above, Carlin did a huge amount of really good work. He wasn't able to blot out Brogan, but he did a power of good work. When you look at the Tyrone wides in the first half and then look at their overall second half display, it was impressive. Add in a full 70 minutes from fully fit Gormley and Hughes, throw in O'Neill and Dooher and it begins to look more compelling. I haven't mentione Brian McGuigan as I don't know if there is a prospect of him playing. If so an 8 - 15 that picks from Hughes, two Cavanaghs, Dooher, McGuigan, Mulgrew, Mulligan, O'Neill, McGinley and Mellon and is pulling as a team would have to be there or there abouts at the year end. At the back there are still issues. Agree with the comment about FB. It's never really been sorted for Tyrone has it? Also not convinced by either of the wing men although last night was a bit odd as a base to judge given the dublin tactic of playing the 10 (Murray) as a sweeper in front of the FB line. Also the keeper needs looking at. Those kick outs are too easy to 'defend' against.
For Dublin, the secoind showiung isn't terribly encouraging. Griffen still shines out at the back and Brennan was 'sticky' but nothing too convincing on the pitch apart from himself and Brogan.
Still nothing was / is ever won in February.
Was expecting Dublin to win that match and had a wee fear Tyrone might get a pasting so have to be happy with the comeback and win. Good victory to get Tyrone started in the league and hopefully the next few weeks will see a number of the key men returning to the starting 15 and make for a stronger all round panel than last season.
As people have said nothing is won in February but still nice to have the 2 points on the board and a wee boost for morale to come back and win from being well behind :)
Not too upset about the defeat but am worried about the manner of it. Same old story, bright start and a collapse later on with the opposition getting a run on us.
However, I was impressed with O'Shea, Brogan and a player who is improving alot imo Bonnar.
Still, I hope that the management learn from this defeat although I thought we were rudderless in 2nd half and were embarassingly wiped out at midfield.Declan O'Mahony was poor and I thought taking Darren off was wrong as was the taking off of Dotsie when no ball came in to him in 2nd half.
Particularly annoyed that an attempt for a point was not taken by Keaney at the end and that he took the short option instead.
Still the swarm defence of Tyrone was awesome to watch from the top of Cusack Stand.
Wasn't a huge Tyrone crowd there, maybe 10,000 tops.
Overheard in Croker;
One Dublin supporter to another when Tyrone were up by 2 points
"Ah typical Dublin, they are just like Liverpool they can't beat the easy teams........"
::) ::) ::)
There were 4 rugby heads behind me at the match...some of the stuff they came out with was great..... ::) i though the ref had a great game. He was consisent and he was well up with the play. The same old Dublin story,they are jeckyl and hyde. Tryone were solid Kevin Hughes made a difference and changed the game i felt....but it is only early Feb.
"Still the swarm defence of Tyrone was awesome to watch from the top of Cusack Stand"
Dublin's swarming wasn't too bad either, that is till they ran out of steam and were chasing shadows ;)
The lights come on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0lvvDNXITY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0lvvDNXITY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpZvIXaDFzI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpZvIXaDFzI)
Just watching the game and the crowd seem to react to every score. NOT I have never seen a more lifeless crowd in all my life.
Quote from: Cloc Mor on February 04, 2007, 06:18:43 PM
Just watching the game and the crowd seem to react to every score. NOT I have never seen a more lifeless crowd in all my life.
Watching it where?
According to the TV tonight Darren Magee went off due to an injury.
Forgot in earlier post to congratulate Tyrone.
I see the anti Dubs are starting up again. Having filled CP in February they are now passing comment on the "type" of supporter who showed up. Seemingly some were not Úbergaa enough for some people.
And yes we ALL know that there will be only 9/10,000 at the next home game in Parnell Park so just get over it.
Ah well some things never change.
Quote from: never kickt a ball on February 04, 2007, 01:42:12 AM
Had a great night and enjoyed the drama of the game. A few observations:
- Now two big screens at Croker. One at the corner of David and Hogan
- Brennan made a speech before switch on. It seemed no one was listening.
-The light switch on was like a Mexican wave. Each one lit up individually in sequence starting at the top of Hogan and moving around the ground. Then the stadium slowly got brighter.
- Only Dublin came out to warm up and approx 10 mins later than the Clár an Óíche stated. All wearing grey tops
- Diarmuid Connelly caught the eye warming up - you know the player that looks class when no one's marking him
- Took a while to find the Gospel Choir and the Saw Doctors who were ensconced at the David/Cusack corner of the field.
- Could have taken or left both the Choir and the Saw Doctors. Wasn't really fussed.
- Dublin came out and went straight for photo
- Dublin then gathered like a pile of iron filings and headed of to the magnetic Dineen Hill 16 - Didn't really capture the imagination but entertaining enough.
- Dubs must have won the toss to come out first and "reclaim" the Dineen Hill 16 :P
-Tyrone came out and kicked around for a bit before coming over for the photo
- Tyrone forward line missing in first half
- Starting to regret earlier opinion of Connelly he looked good
- Brogan played well first half gave Carlin a torrid time
- Ricey played a large part on his own on right wing and no one would switch it to him
- Seemed occasion getting to some Tyrone players - forwards, Penrose, Murphy
- Dubs didn't score much in last 15 of first half
- Dubs defense played well
- Tyrone a lot of wides
- Streaker got a lukewarm reception from ref who played on
- Half time game a sketch - Soccer has already been played at Croker. Green team won four goals to nil. One player had Ronaldo's step over dummy to a tee and as game went on players showed a greater reluctance to pick the ball up. Referee did well though.
- Big screen focused on the full moon for a while during half time - may be the next destination for the All-Stars?
- Second half changes sealed it for Mickey
- Mulgrew showing something of that potential talked about
- Didn't notice yellow ball after a while
- Dubs very quiet on the hill and in fact difficult to hear from Cusack even when making noise.
- Three minutes added time. The announcer laughed before he announced it as if in disbelief :D
- Dublin blew a chance for a draw by not attempting a shot from a free
- Is Pillar really worth his salt?
- Davin end the "scoring" end.
- Dublin City Council have a litter campaign going
- Road works around the perimeter of Croker pitch at the end of the game to stop invasion.
- Travelled down in two hours and home in three. By passes are great. Just hope I never need one!
Well summed up. Surreal type of atmosphere. The parade was noticeably different with the lack of flag waving etc. After an initial burst of energy, the Hill were quiet - must've been a different breed of Hill Jackeen from the summer.
The match has been well covered here. I thought the Dub fans were harsh on their team afterwards. Dublin were working hard and supporting each other well in those first 30 or so minutes. They simply ran out of steam in terms of physical fitness and this led to their focus disintegrating. Whereas they were economical in finding their man early on, balls were being kicked out over he sideline or falling short in the second half.
Mickey made the substitutions that needed to be made. Hughes' presence around the middle was immense and provided tons of breaking ball for Mulgrew, McGinley, Cavanagh x 2, Carlin and Harte to raid with. Perhaps the most important moment was when Gormley met Brogan with a crunching tackle soon after he came on. Brogan didn't want to know afterwards.
McConnell may have taken the short option too often in the first half but with Murphy in quiet form and Cavanagh double-teamed, he had little option. I thought McGee looked sluggish in the first half, but sure that could be said for most. Tyrone seemed to be dazed from the floodlights in that opening 35 mins, playing as poorly in Croke Park as they did v Sligo 2nd half 2002. People say Cavanagh was taking too much out of the ball but he was receiving very little support. He must've had a word with the younger brother as they linked up well in the 2nd half - a promising double act. Mulgrew covered some ground, even acting as sweeper on a few occasions - when Ricey was out-of-position (was he ever in it?). McMenamin had an influential game and managed to get up the nose of almost every Dublin player at some stage. Great raiding at times. Getting back to Mulgrew - you can see the class. Still, physicality is a worry. McCullagh was intelligent on the ball.
When they were needed, Mulligan, Cavanagh, McGinley, Hughes, Gormley, McMenamin and Harte stood up. Add in O'Neill, Dooher, Jordan, McGuigan etc and you can see the point I was making a few weeks ago - the Tyrone '05 side minus the retirees may be our best side. Dermy Carlin had an up-and-down game but took his opportunity well and probably is doing enough to pose Mickey problems when the Harte/GormleyJordan HB line resumes.
Excellent reserves of fitness in Tyrone and simply maintained (even upped) their workrate when the Dubs began to wobble.
One other thing - it's always interesting to watch the referees at the start of the NFL to see what the style will be for the year - unfortunately it seems that making a whole pantomine when someone is booked will be the theme. Why on earth are they attempting to break up the game even more?
Listening to it last night on the radio and seeing the highlights this evening, the atmosphere looked very surreal all right, more of an event seekers tie than anything else. Second half comeback sounded good, fine point taken by Mulgrew late in the match. Home commentators had no hesitation in saying that Ricey had to go, and there was no disputing it.
Mickey Harte apparently isn't cutting his panel until next month, so expect some of the McKenna Cup players who weren't there last night to feature over the next few games.
QuoteNow two big screens at Croker. One at the corner of David and Hogan
There not always 2 screens in croker?
Screen at the Hogan appeared last year. Think the new screens in the lower hogan are new this year.
Anybody else get caught up in the squash outside the hogan after the game?
Different atmosphere at the game with a lot of people there who seemed to not know much about the game - totally different to the championship;....
As for teh game itself - a lot of mistakes as to be expected from the first game of the National League as well as some strange reffing decisions but sure thats life......Dublin started well and moved the ball well, tackled well and pressured well as well as taking their chances....2nd half Tyrone after the substitutions started to take over and deserved their victory - however one of the biggest factors in my opinion was the game v's Laois last week especially going to extra time as it seemed the Dublin players were heavy legged in the last 15 mins or so...
Well done to Tyrone, better team won on the day and but for some bad wides it could have been worse for us dubs.
Hope the younger dubs learn from what happened. i was afraid Caffery had picked too experimental a team on the day.
... had a great laugh with the tyrone supporters beside me, including some youngwan taking the piss out of me nephew, funny.
dubsforsam,
you must be joking, if a team cannot get over an extra time game in one week they really ought to take a better look at the training schedule.For my money dublin simply lack the talent or mental strenght to beat the top sides and seem to be happy with putting up a good show for a while of the game and acting like premiership stars by bowing and blowing kisses to the hill.The hill deserts them very quickly indeed when it starts to go pear shaped and that could be a clue for pillar if he wins the toss later in the summer.
Kerry were half paced yesterday and still could have beaten mayo with another few minutes play, I reckon its whoever avoids them will have a good chance of reaching a final and tyrone look like the team if the draw worked out that way.
Its too early but in another 4 to 6 weeks a picture will emerge showing a better lay of the land.
First Game of the year but I'd say the Dubs are a bit concerned about the way they gave up a nice lead , echoes of the Mayo game last year ( only the football on view wasn't nearly as good , that said it is only Feb.) Got to hand it to Harte things weren't working and he made the changes no messing about and fair play to Tyrone for the fight back they deserved the win in the end . Biggest cheer of the night was probably for the streaker doing the press ups (nutter) . Biggest p***k of the night went to the Dub "fan" who treated our section of the stand packed with kids I might add to " You dirty Nordie Bastard McMenamin" at the top of his voice . Real class , there's always one as the add says . But overall great to be there the place looked great and when the Dubs started come on you boys in blue there was a great atmosphere .
Just a note on Clonliff College , I know it takes a while to get out at the best of times but if you have kids with you it is the closest place to the ground you will put up with that . But Saturday night was beyond the joke . The Yellow bib lads didn't want to know and there was no Gardai at the entrance to the collage but surprise surprise when you get down to the skylon where the traffic is starting to move there's two boys waving the traffic on . Never again .
Everything looked great albeit I only seen highlights. I couldnt believe the amount of off the ball stuff was directed at Ricey the whole game. Id have cracked long before him. If I was the Dubs I wouldnt be too worried, Better to lose a great football game narrowly than to win a fighting match narrowly. Dublin would normally have lost that quality of match in August and there would be no way back. Its only February and they have loads of time to address any shortcomings. Tyrone fans are thrilled and they only scored one more point. The Dubs have a big year in them this year. Tyropne need to look at that backline again, as they'll face better forward lines. We will need a deputy full back at least a ready made replacement for Mc Ginley. Id Like to see hub tried there. or DAmian Mc Caul. As for the Cavanagh family - they looked immense. Colm has shocked me with his development. Murphy looked poor and Donnelly looked disappointing, but it was a hard game to more or less make a debut. 2 men Id mentioned before the game were Mellon and Mc ginley. How diid they go?
QuoteEverything looked great albeit I only seen highlights. I couldnt believe the amount of off the ball stuff was directed at Ricey the whole game.
I was at the game, the bottom line was he was stupid to get sent off. You cant defend it no matter way its shaped.
My father who was at the game though he was stupid, and indefensible, thats not the issue here, We seen Keiran donaghy and Trevor Mortimer sent off yesterday for less than what Ricey had to contend with, Was that the way forward either? Maybe hes just too wee.
thouroughly enjoyed the occasion
thought the game was entertaining enough with both sides showing great passages of play in either half.
Dublin out-tyroned Tyrone in the first half but seemed ot run out of stamina after HT, while at the same time the combo of Harte slightly changing things and the introduction of Hughes who not only bolstered MF, but inspired a slightly afraid young and small Tyrone attack to overcome their fear.
Plus a Dublin panelist was a bit miffed with Caffrey bringing off both midfield men (my brother who was along with me spotted him limping 5 mins before he was taken off) and conceeding mf to tyrone. The substitutions of both big midfielders certainly handed the advantage to Tyrone- and the 'Hub' didnt need any favours.
Caffrey is very limited.
Tyrone showed that the same template is used by them to play all their games and the personnel can be changed with only a small degredation of ability.
It is only the start of February, but Harte is majestic, Dublin are still on the right road but like a lot of sides will struggle if being beaten and changes/inspiration are required form the sideline.
As long as they dont have a nightmare game , I cannot see anyone taking SAM off a now rested and hungry Tyrone team.
PS
I couldnt resist asking Canavan after the game in the premium lounge if Kieran McKeevers boot was still in his pocket!
There was a Dub fan behind me giving out loads of abuse as the game came to a climax so I asked hime when Tyrone won, 'does that mean we can keep them lights now?'. The words 'northern ticker' were last heard...
Good win for Tir Eoghain, who were crap in the first half and class in the second. Colm Cavanagh was my MOTM, and as RHF states surprsed me with his development. Wasn't scared to get involved and do the hardwork. Him and Sean combined well.
Raymie Mulgrew is still not the finished article, but has developed immensely, in a physcial sense, over the last 12 months. Looked 3 times the player he was last year, and just shaded for MOTM.
McGinley (Enda), took some serious hits, and although didn't do fantastic, hw won his side a lot f ball, held up play and won quite a few free kicks. He was played as an orthodox number 15 as opposed to the wandering exra midfielder of 2005.
Another 3 players to merit mention were Emmet McGinley. Again still not convinced, but got out ahead of his man on several occassions to break Dublin attacks and did a decent job. Dermie Carlin has again improved, and can out just on top of the battle with Brogan, has a great engine and was involved in many of Tyrone's attacks. Finally Colm McCullagh was extremely busy when he came on, and I think his movement was the catalyst for Tyrone to power on.
Lastly, I thought the young lads playing 'soccer' at halftime was hilarious!!
The introduction of Hughes and the loss of Magee were the turning points for me, we totally lost midfield and sat back way too deep. inviting Tyrone on is a bad bad idea. Still like has been said it's only the first day out, hopefully lessons are learned and we have a stronger selection to pick from next for limerick.
Enjoyed the first night under lights but I thought it was average league football and only the last 15 minutes were exciting apart from Connollys first half point which was suberbly taken. Note to the gobshite who was sitting behind me, his name is Diarmuid, not "Dermo". ::)
Access into and out of the Hogan wasn't a problem and I think the lack of athmosphere can be blamed on the amount of neutrals at the game. Best value for money spent all weekend apart from the fee into Cusack Park. ;D
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 05, 2007, 12:00:46 PM
Enjoyed the first night under lights but I thought it was average league football and only the last 15 minutes were exciting apart from Connollys first half point which was suberbly taken. Note to the gobshite who was sitting behind me, his name is Diarmuid, not "Dermo". ::)
Do we all have to point out something about fans that were there? ... the tyrone crowd beside me were 10 minutes late by the way, and left before the end, tsk tsk! :P
Emmet McGinley? Do you Tyronnies even know your team?
QuoteEmmet McGinley?
Oopps...don't even know where I heard that name! Sorry...of course I mean Conor McGinley.
Who's Conor McGinley?
QuoteWho's Conor McGinley?
;D
I think Norf tyrone is taking the mick now!! I'm he meant to say Cormac McGinley. Emmett is another brother who plays for Errigal. Also Norf must be having a laugh when he says Dermot Carlin came out top in his battle with Alan Brogan. Carlin was destroyed in the first half but did well enough in the second and came forward to help out his forwards on occasions. Brogan would have been MOTM had Dublin won and Conor Gormley not appeared for the last 20min.
Fully expected to get beat on Sat and was therefore well pleased with the win.
Spoke mto a Dungannon lad beofre the game who said Cavo was simply told he 'wasn't needed' for the game - strange one that, hopefully he;ll still be in MH plans for the rest of the summer.
Thought Cormac was very average at FB - this should be Joeys spot for the CHampionshiop., although the EC connection seems to hold a lot of sway.
Mulgrew finally seems to be showing talent to match some of the hype we've all heard and young Cavanagh was reasonably good (less said about his fuirst half effort right enouhg.
Overall difficult to take a lot away - team spirit good, some nice talent emerging and with McGuigan et al due back summer looks good
Did anyone manage to record the game??
QuoteAlso Norf must be having a laugh when he says Dermot Carlin came out top in his battle with Alan Brogan. Carlin was destroyed in the first half but did well enough in the second and came forward to help out his forwards on occasions. Brogan would have been MOTM had Dublin won and Conor Gormley not appeared for the last 20min.
I thought Carlin's philosophy was that Brogan was too difficult to mark, so instead he gave him problems by bombing forward and forcing Brogan to track back. I think the lad deserves credit for the way he played against the 2nd best number 11 in the country.
Very enjoyable evening. Must say I enjoyed the Gospel singing and the Sawdoctors drummer with the mikasa glove made me laugh. Brennan's speech was good and to be honest filled me with pride and confidence for the future. I thought it was a really nice touch embracing the "new Irish" too. The lights definitely look very impressive and added to the sense of occasion.
As for the game itself it has been well analysed here already from the few posts I've seen. Dubs very good in first half with Alan Brogan running the show from centre forward. I thought Tyrone were in danger of a serious kicking at half time though in hindsight the score at that point should have been closer as the red hands were guilty of some really poor finishing into the Hill goal. Harte then exposed Caffrey for the pillock that he is by giving him a tactical masterclass to win the game. Hughes' arrival and Darren Magee's departure were important but Conor Gormley totally shutting down Brogan was the key for me. Tyrone then showed they knew how to win and Caffrey's antics near the end show why he in unfit to manage this Dublin side.
So early days and a lot of positives for both sides even though some Dubs supporters seem to be a bit ott depressed about it.
On the crowd - I was attending with the outlaws (all Dubs) and we were all sick to the back teeth of this loud mouthed idiot in the upper Hogan. He hadn't a clue and by God he made sure everyone knew it - my fav was his "come on Whelo" near the end of the first half. Bless.
Its alright messing about lads, but it wasnt so funny for conor gormley when he was pulled in by the gardi after the game and questioned on the Disappearance of Alan Brogan ;D
What was Caffrey up to near the end?????
Think he had words with mcmeniman after he kicked bonner. Shouldnt get involved.
on such an 'occassion' rather than a NL first round game - it was obv there were loads of kids and ladies in the crowd that prob are not normally in attendance
so the idiot fans dotted around the premium level seats (areas 502 - 504) that were hurling abusive and obscene language at the ref (as if he was going to hear it from there let alone listen to it) was a disgrace
no wonder my missus talks up the rugby crowd and tells me that GAA is followed by 'a shower of knackers'
these mindless morons make me cringe.
there are three very bad culprits of this (ie teams that have a problem with this) in the GAA.
(and yes if I say that I support GAA - she simply states ' I rest my case')
Mannix -
With regards to fitness yes playing 90 mins the week before will take it out of you especially in winter and especially when your only back starting training - if you think otherwise maybe you should try it sometime....
With regards to Caffrey he probably shouldn't have said anything to McMenamin but then again if McMenamin didn't get sent off it wouldn't have happened.....have to admit I liked the complaining afterwards about him getting pulled and dragged off the ball.....pot kettle black springs to mind.....
Pity about the loss but O'Se looked good at full back, Brennan fairly good on Mulligan, Connolly looks a class player and Magee did well in mid-field until injured.....
2nd half Tyrone came back into it with the substitutions but I don't see what more Caffrey could have done apart from put on Whelan/Quinn and there was no point risking that - maybe putting Keaney to centre forward and Brogan into the full forward line.....
Still Dublin created the only goal scoring chances which was good - not taking them was bad....
Well well well whe the nordies were under the cosh at half time what do they do? Bring on two fellas to throw their weight about, get the eyebrow man (was a full moon - was no wonder he seemed agitated) to mouth off and hey presto, a game won by default. You'd think it was the championship. Tyrone will regret this come summer when we met again. Not impressed with Tyrone. This was a tough run-out for the lads and eased off the gas in the second half to conserve energy for bigger tasks ahead in the summer.
ONeill, not gonna tell them about our meeting? Mark my words if I ever see you again, you'll know about it you tr**p. 4 the record, he's dressed in the garb he told me to be in, at the bar itself, he jokes around and he buys two pints and then fecks off and the barman asks me for the money. tr**p.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 05, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
on such an 'occassion' rather than a NL first round game - it was obv there were loads of kids and ladies in the crowd that prob are not normally in attendance
so the idiot fans dotted around the premium level seats (areas 502 - 504) that were hurling abusive and obscene language at the ref (as if he was going to hear it from there let alone listen to it) was a disgrace
no wonder my missus talks up the rugby crowd and tells me that GAA is followed by 'a shower of knackers'
these mindless morons make me cringe.
there are three very bad culprits of this (ie teams that have a problem with this) in the GAA.
(and yes if I say that I support GAA - she simply states ' I rest my case')
Ask me ballix, rugby is supported by a bunch of upper middle class people on a day out, the reason they dont abuse the ref is because they havent a clue what the technical infringements are, let alone if the ref has messed up, besides the result is an afterthought, it won't spoil their evening let alone their week. Ah generalisations are great arent they. :P
Quote from: tayto on February 05, 2007, 03:03:57 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 05, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
on such an 'occassion' rather than a NL first round game - it was obv there were loads of kids and ladies in the crowd that prob are not normally in attendance
so the idiot fans dotted around the premium level seats (areas 502 - 504) that were hurling abusive and obscene language at the ref (as if he was going to hear it from there let alone listen to it) was a disgrace
no wonder my missus talks up the rugby crowd and tells me that GAA is followed by 'a shower of knackers'
these mindless morons make me cringe.
there are three very bad culprits of this (ie teams that have a problem with this) in the GAA.
(and yes if I say that I support GAA - she simply states ' I rest my case')
Ask me ballix, rugby is supported by a bunch of upper middle class people on a day out, the reason they dont abuse the ref is because they havent a clue what the technical infringements are, let alone if the ref has messed up, besides the result is an afterthought, it won't spoil their evening let alone their week. Ah generalisations are great arent they. :P
I dont particularly like the generalisation myself, but there are large pockets of knackery fans that to the uninformed non sports fan (like the missus) make GAA fans look bad in comparison
I've been known to let the odd swear out when things get tense, i hope that dosent make me a kn**ker! :-\
Ah i know what ye mean, but it's probably a refelction on modern ireland. plenty of scobies about.
Enjoyed the occasion. Game was good enough considering the time of year etc. Tyrone will be there or therabouts I think come September. Dubs same old failings but not overly pessimistic yet!!
How did McEnaney not give a peno for McMenamin's footblock?
What the hell are the stewards doing during a game if they can't stop these streakers. If I catch hold of one of them they'll have no no nuts left - tossers the lot of them(streakers that is)
Quote from: forkinknife on February 05, 2007, 02:57:19 PM
Well well well whe the nordies were under the cosh at half time what do they do? Bring on two fellas to throw their weight about, get the eyebrow man (was a full moon - was no wonder he seemed agitated) to mouth off and hey presto, a game won by default. You'd think it was the championship. Tyrone will regret this come summer when we met again. Not impressed with Tyrone. This was a tough run-out for the lads and eased off the gas in the second half to conserve energy for bigger tasks ahead in the summer.
ONeill, not gonna tell them about our meeting? Mark my words if I ever see you again, you'll know about it you tr**p. 4 the record, he's dressed in the garb he told me to be in, at the bar itself, he jokes around and he buys two pints and then fecks off and the barman asks me for the money. tr**p.
Ack sssh would ya. A part for Ricey getting hot headed again and see red, it was otherwises a good clean game. Tyrone deserved their won, but Dublin are a fine team too. Only February, but potentially Sam could be residing in one of these two counties come September.
ziggy you sicken my balls sometimes with that arse licking shite.
Quote from: forkinknife on February 05, 2007, 02:57:19 PM
Well well well whe the nordies were under the cosh at half time what do they do? Bring on two fellas to throw their weight about, get the eyebrow man (was a full moon - was no wonder he seemed agitated) to mouth off and hey presto, a game won by default. You'd think it was the championship. Tyrone will regret this come summer when we met again. Not impressed with Tyrone. This was a tough run-out for the lads and eased off the gas in the second half to conserve energy for bigger tasks ahead in the summer.
What a ridiculous post, Tyrone are going to regret it? Ohhh i bet they're quaking in their boots.
Tyrone played to win, i've no doubt that dublin tired in the last 15 minutes but they played the first half with such intensity in terms of covering ground that that was always going to happen, poor management IMO.
As for Tyrone throwing their weight around, all that was missing was Whelan to throw his around, but of course he's still in the box David Brady put him in last august, Dublin whinging about teams getting stuck into them is a bit rich.
Caffrey seems to lose his cool during the matches, he comes across as a manager, much like maughan, who is fantastic in the lead up to a match but doesn't have the in-game smarts to make the changes that matter.
Quote from: tayto on February 05, 2007, 03:27:49 PM
I've been known to let the odd swear out when things get tense, i hope that dosent make me a kn**ker! :-\
Ah i know what ye mean, but it's probably a refelction on modern ireland. plenty of scobies about.
I can guarantee yer no worse than me, but I think most of us realise not to do it in certain situations - in a terrace with no kids about (and maybe the occassional lady) then its not so bad but in a stand full of kiddies and obv GAA newcomers - thats not what people should be hearing
hardly going to encourage those ladies in the stands with their couple of kids to send their kids off to the next GAA camp or match
yer right though, its hard stopped but shooting ourselves in the foot though
Quote from: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:36:40 PM
ziggy you sicken my balls sometimes with that arse licking shite.
What? Want me to lie? You telling me that Dublin weren't superb in the first half? They played some fantastic football for February. They just didn't have the stamina to keep the pressure on Tyrone for the full 70 minutes.
sam could 'potentially' end up in any one of 6 or 7 counties in that case. Tyrone were crap in the 1st half- pure crap. I fancied the Dubs for Sam and still do, it was the 1st league game and was played like an AI Final, of course fitness would be questioned. The result will have NO bearing as to where Sam goes.
although Tyrone still have to bring O'Neill, Dooher and McGuigan into that team I think they'd be well and truly screwed if anything happens to Sean Cavanagh.
Quotealthough Tyrone still have to bring O'Neill, Dooher and McGuigan into that team I think they'd be well and truly screwed if anything happens to Sean Cavanagh.
Perhaps but we'd be no more screwed than any other team who lost the services of a player of Cavanagh's quality.
Quotethey'd be well and truly screwed if anything happens to Sean Cavanagh
Don't worry, he'll surely mind himself!
duh!
thats a brain dead post.
Cavanagh is the heartbeat of that Tyrone side and he surprised me in how tall he stood on Saturday evening. fair play to him.
Quote1 a game won by default.
2 Tyrone will regret this come summer when we met again.
3 Not impressed with Tyrone.
4 the lads and eased off the gas in the second half to conserve energy for bigger tasks ahead in the summer.
5 if I ever see you again, you'll know about it you tr**p. .
??? ??? ???
think he's lookin for a reaction lads, the post is obviously lacking logic of any sort.
Definitely Tayto. That lad surely failed his junior cert!
Watched the game in O'Neills pub in Cardiff.
Total sickener ;D The place was jammed and it seemed like everyone went crazy when Tyrone went ahead and won out. Not unexpected from the Munster jersies, but the seeing Leinster jerises cheering the result was sickening!!
As for the game, very disappointing to die so badly after such a good start. Well done to Tyrone for a fine second half performance.
McMenamin is an awful tr**p. A pure w@nker, not fit for the fine Tyrone jersey. Everyone other player wanted a competitive tough game. From the off he was the one player who had a different approach.
QUOTE..
"ONeill, not gonna tell them about our meeting? Mark my words if I ever see you again, you'll know about it you tr**p. 4 the record, he's dressed in the garb he told me to be in, at the bar itself, he jokes around and he buys two pints and then fecks off and the barman asks me for the money. tr**p."
Pure Genius O'Neill, What a Gobshite to post getting caught like that on this board!
Idiot.......... :D :D
"As for Tyrone throwing their weight around, all that was missing was Whelan to throw his around, but of course he's still in the box David Brady put him in last august, Dublin whinging about teams getting stuck into them is a bit rich."
Question is which box are the entire Mayo team in - shipwrecked off Skellig Mhichil would be my guess or maybe just off Dingle. Brady is a big a shaper as anybody. Loves courting the media and coming on and throwing his weight around. - slightly hypocritical to compare him as a saint to say the least.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 05, 2007, 03:12:17 PM
Quote from: tayto on February 05, 2007, 03:03:57 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 05, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
on such an 'occassion' rather than a NL first round game - it was obv there were loads of kids and ladies in the crowd that prob are not normally in attendance
so the idiot fans dotted around the premium level seats (areas 502 - 504) that were hurling abusive and obscene language at the ref (as if he was going to hear it from there let alone listen to it) was a disgrace
no wonder my missus talks up the rugby crowd and tells me that GAA is followed by 'a shower of knackers'
these mindless morons make me cringe.
there are three very bad culprits of this (ie teams that have a problem with this) in the GAA.
(and yes if I say that I support GAA - she simply states ' I rest my case')
Ask me ballix, rugby is supported by a bunch of upper middle class people on a day out, the reason they dont abuse the ref is because they havent a clue what the technical infringements are, let alone if the ref has messed up, besides the result is an afterthought, it won't spoil their evening let alone their week. Ah generalisations are great arent they. :P
I dont particularly like the generalisation myself, but there are large pockets of knackery fans that to the uninformed non sports fan (like the missus) make GAA fans look bad in comparison
You've got to stop taking her with you lynchbhoy! Seriously was there no dishes to wash? You're a disgrace!
Quote from: never kickt a ball on February 05, 2007, 07:55:57 PM(http://i9.tinypic.com/2uysuif.jpg)
So that's why Tony was missing over the weekend!
Arrgh! My ****ing eyes! :o :o :o :o :o :o
Quote from: INDIANA on February 05, 2007, 07:21:06 PM
"As for Tyrone throwing their weight around, all that was missing was Whelan to throw his around, but of course he's still in the box David Brady put him in last august, Dublin whinging about teams getting stuck into them is a bit rich."
Question is which box are the entire Mayo team in - shipwrecked off Skellig Mhichil would be my guess or maybe just off Dingle. Brady is a big a shaper as anybody. Loves courting the media and coming on and throwing his weight around. - slightly hypocritical to compare him as a saint to say the least.
Jaysus bud relax. I dont think anyone said he was a saint. He just put manners on whelan that day. I dont think you could disagree with this
Quote from: Bensars on February 01, 2007, 04:00:38 PM
QuoteA Dog To Interupt The Match 9/2
That looks like a winner.
Any of the cheeky dubs got a small dog that can be put under a jacket ( Please refrain from jason sherlock Jokes lads!)
If thats true its a great price........
Whats the odds on a streaker ????
did you have insider information?
Doea that streaker look a bit like johnny magee?
I know I;ve asked this before but has anyone recorded the game? ???
Yes I have it recorded.
QuoteYes I have it recorded.
Star Spangler I've sent you a message.
QuoteMcMenamin is handed four-week ban
Tyrone's Ryan McMenamin has escaped with a four-week ban after his sending off in Saturday's Allianz National Football League win over Dublin.
His clash with Dublin's Kevin Bonner was deemed to be within the less serious kicking offence category so he avoided an eight-week suspension.
McMenamin will miss this weekend's NFL clash against Fermanagh and the game against Cork later this month.
He will also miss Tuesday's McKenna Cup semi-final against Monaghan.
McMenamin will also be ruled out of the McKenna Cup final against Donegal on 18 February if the Red Hands beat Monaghan in next weekend's floodlit semi-final.
It has emerged this week that the longest ban that the Tyrone player could have got was eight weeks, following rule changes that came into effect this year.
Previously, 12-week bans had been in place for serious kicking offences.
McMenamin appeared to kick Dublin forward Kevin Bonner late in Saturday's floodlit contest at Croke Park.
The Tyrone corner-back was involved in a verbal spat with Dublin manager Paul Caffrey as he walked off the pitch following his dismissal.
The Dromore man captained his side in the historic Croke Park clash with the Dubs, and now manager Mickey Harte will have to appoint a third skipper in the space of a few weeks.
Regular captain Brian Dooher is still out of action through injury, and Harte is likely to turn to Sean Cavanagh, who led the team in two McKenna Cup games during January.
Sourced BBCi: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6342741.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6342741.stm)
Just watched the game again on Setanta. Anyone else notice that the studio pundits weren't in Croke park at all and the view of the stadium through the "window" was in fact a picture? And a bad grainey one at that. ;D