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1st round draw tomorrow. Teams on the left will be at home to the teams on the right.
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Armagh to get Tyrone again
Draw tomorrow and I've a quick query.
Now that theres only 2 seeds will there be any need to do the draw the way they did it last 3 years.
Instead of Armagh/Monaghan v Mayo for example can we set in stone exactly who all the provincial finalists are playing in advance.
I see no issue in doing a complete draw tomorrow anyways.
Would stop teams getting tougher draws for winning their provincial like we seem with Galway last year.
In answer to above - all eight first round ties will be drawn tomorrow.
Provincial finalists in Bowl 1 (no distinction between winners and losers as finals yet to be played).
All teams will know who they will play in Round 1.
Just when you thought it couldn't get any messier they dream up this.
Quote from: Stickittotheman on May 03, 2026, 07:32:52 PMJust when you thought it couldn't get any messier they dream up this.
Messier ? Relatively straightforward I would have thought.
Please note that Monaghan can draw Derry, Roscomomon can draw Mayo and Westmeath can draw Kildare.
Is is of course a separate competition to the provincials (supposedly) ;)
Quote from: Stickittotheman on May 03, 2026, 07:32:52 PMJust when you thought it couldn't get any messier they dream up this.
Agreed. They saw the new CL style and tried to follow suit.
Kildare or Cavan would suit, but perhaps Derry or Louth would be manageable.
I thought the draw was supposed to be
Knocked out team a v Ulster winner
Knocked out team b v Ulster runner up.
In other words teams would know which of two teams they'd be playing until the final was decided.
Have they changed to all teams knowing tomorrow regardless of final results?
From gaa.ie (https://www.gaa.ie/article/format-for-2026-all-ireland-sfc-and-tailteann-cup)
Yes whoever a team draws tomorrow is who they will be playing regardless of result. The only advantage of a provincial winner is the same as a provincial loser and that is home advantage, whereas the Pot B team has a rest, less risk of injury, no red card risk, and 3 weeks to study opponent and attend match to study further. But it is what it is.
Quote from: weareros on May 03, 2026, 08:06:30 PMYes whoever a team draws tomorrow is who they will be playing regardless of result. The only advantage of a provincial winner is the same as a provincial loser and that is home advantage, whereas the Pot B team has a rest, less risk of injury, no red card risk, and 3 weeks to study opponent and attend match to study further. But it is what it is.
Madness
That doesnt make sense, u think its be the winners, runner ups against whoever drawn to play the winners and runner up.
The draw is live on GAA+ at 1pm
I don't mind the lack of pre determination but could it happen that Monaghan meet Derry in round one?
Yes
It's completely stupid. So the Ulster winner could draw Donegal and the Ulster loser could draw Cavan and you're better off losing Ulster.
The non-provincial finalists should be seeded by league position and the lowest seeds (Cavan, Kildare, Westmeath and Tyrone) should be drawn to play the provincial winners. At least that would make more sense.
It'll be Armagh and Monaghan in the draw (and not Ulster winner/runner up). So won't matter how you do in the final as to who you get.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 03, 2026, 09:13:21 PMThat doesnt make sense, u think its be the winners, runner ups against whoever drawn to play the winners and runner up.
The logic of the format in the image in this chat doesn't make sense. Surely the winners should get some advantage.
Theres zero advantage, practically playing as a seperate competition, u think winning u province, should at least take you to the last 8,
There is the (remote) possibility of 4 repeats of provincial matches
Roscommon v Mayo
Monaghan v Derry
Dublin v Louth
Westmeath v Kildare
Some craic here if 2 or 3 of them happen :)
Winning your province hasn't taken you to the last 8 for what, five years?
It hasnt but there no promotion now of winning u province in the race for a All-Ireland. The set up previous few yrs is better than this. Derry used this propsed new set up in last yrs club championship
Provincial winners to draw the lowest ranking teams (on where they finished in the league) is how the draw should be done instead of what they'll have tomorrow.
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 03, 2026, 10:52:43 PMThere is the (remote) possibility of 4 repeats of provincial matches
Roscommon v Mayo
Monaghan v Derry
Dublin v Louth
Westmeath v Kildare
Some craic here if 2 or 3 of them happen :)
Is Armagh v Tyrone not there also?
Yes indeed - 5 possible repeat pairings
Armagh v Tyrone
Roscommon v Mayo
Monaghan v Cavan/Derry
Dublin v Louth
Westmeath v Kildare
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 04, 2026, 08:10:25 AMYes indeed - 5 possible repeat pairings
Armagh v Tyrone
Roscommon v Mayo
Monaghan v Cavan/Derry
Dublin v Louth
Westmeath v Kildare
Westmeath v Meath also possible
So there is a 66% chance of one repeat game from an earlier round. Monaghan and Armagh have a 50% chance of gettng an Ulster team, so it is likely that at least one will. But it is equally likely that an Ulster team will have to travel to Munster, which is an inevitable consequence of the imbalance between the two provinces. If you are likes of Derry and trying to get the show back on the road, a trip to Killarney might not be the ideal start.
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 04, 2026, 08:10:25 AMYes indeed - 5 possible repeat pairings
Armagh v Tyrone
Roscommon v Mayo
Monaghan v Cavan/Derry
Dublin v Louth
Westmeath v Kildare
Or Westmeath Meath.
I want the rossies
Cant beat that Blowitupref thanks, u vant bring a link to the Derry v Monaghan game.
Draw is 20 mins away
20mins, wankers.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 04, 2026, 01:05:28 PMCant beat that Blowitupref thanks, u vant bring a link to the Derry v Monaghan game.
GAA+ usually make games free after a few days or of course you pay in the meantime.
Quote from: p3427977 on May 04, 2026, 01:05:50 PM20mins, wankers.
To be fair it probably takes that long to warm up the balls and make sure Kerry get the easiest possible draw.
To be fair the comments running alongside the live GAA + are class, chefs kiss to whoever wrote Casement Park will be built before this draw is done ;D
Quote from: p3427977 on May 04, 2026, 01:05:50 PM20mins, wankers.
Jarlath Burns must be making a speech
Dublin v Louth
Cork v Meath
Monaghan v Mayo
Westmeath v Cavan
Kerry v Donegal
Galway v Kildare
Armagh v Derry
Roscommon v Tyrone
;D ;D FFS
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 04, 2026, 01:15:18 PMQuote from: p3427977 on May 04, 2026, 01:05:50 PM20mins, wankers.
To be fair it probably takes that long to warm up the balls and make sure Kerry get the easiest possible draw.
Or make sure that Donegal get a hard one?
At least we get a third chance! ;D
Quote from: armaghniac on May 04, 2026, 01:38:51 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 04, 2026, 01:15:18 PMQuote from: p3427977 on May 04, 2026, 01:05:50 PM20mins, wankers.
To be fair it probably takes that long to warm up the balls and make sure Kerry get the easiest possible draw.
Or make sure that Donegal get a hard one?
The draw that neither of them wanted!
Worse draw Derry get outside Kerry, that 3 yrs running Armagh plus Ulster final yr before.
Some tasty games in there...Kerry v Donegal the stand out. Armagh v Derry will be interesting, Dublin v Louth likewise.
From a Tyrone point of view, we owe the Rossies after putting us out in Omagh a few years ago.
Repeat of the League final. Kerry will never close that gap to Donegal. Yerra.
Repeat of the 2025 All-Ireland final the stand out tie.
Dublin v Louth
Cork v Meath
Monaghan v Mayo
Westmeath v Cavan
Kerry v Donegal
Galway v Kildare
Armagh v Derry
Roscommon v Tyrone
Happy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 04, 2026, 01:41:01 PMRepeat of the League final. Kerry will never close that gap to Donegal. Yerra.
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Also a repeat of division 2 final. Long trip to cork ahead again
I'm getting sick of playing cork at this stage.
Nice to see kerry getting challenged early in the championship for once
The issue here is that it seems that the losing teams in this first round won't be eliminated, they just go into a loser's bracket. It's an advantage to get drawn against a stronger county at this stage so you will likely avoid playing that team again until the later knockout rounds.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on May 04, 2026, 02:10:17 PMThe issue here is that it seems that the losing teams in this first round won't be eliminated, they just go into a loser's bracket. It's an advantage to get drawn against a stronger county at this stage so you will likely avoid playing that team again until the later knockout rounds.
Yeah the losers play another loser to get back in.
Danger is the likes of Armagh vs Derry loser getting Kerry v Donegal loser and a decent team getting an early summer.
How are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
Good draw for Kerry and Donegal, loser likely to get a handy game against another loser and they then can't meet again until the final.
Quote from: blanketattack on May 04, 2026, 02:36:30 PMHow are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
According to who? With home advantage and how bad Mayo looked against Roscommon I'd be typing Monaghan.
Are ye for real? Get beat here and you're not out?
Quote from: An Watcher on May 04, 2026, 02:43:09 PMAre ye for real? Get beat here and you're not out?
No you've another game after before you're out.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 02:37:55 PMGood draw for Kerry and Donegal, loser likely to get a handy game against another loser and they then can't meet again until the final.
Surely that's not right??
Quote from: Ronnie on May 04, 2026, 02:51:54 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 02:37:55 PMGood draw for Kerry and Donegal, loser likely to get a handy game against another loser and they then can't meet again until the final.
Surely that's not right??
I thought it was only avoidance of repeat pairings until the quarter finals
Quote from: blanketattack on May 04, 2026, 02:36:30 PMHow are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
Any team with a bit of back bone would wipe the floor with Monaghan although that may not be Mayo either.
The Ulster final will be an easy 10+ win for Armagh.
Quote from: blanketattack on May 04, 2026, 02:36:30 PMHow are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
If moonster tips Monaghan then Mayo will be unbackable favourites
Have none of ye ever come across a double elimination format? It's really not that complicated lads.
Quote from: blanketattack on May 04, 2026, 02:36:30 PMHow are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
Are Mayo at 8/11 such strong favourites?
Monaghan were 3/1 to beat Derry now they are 7/5 to beat Mayo, I'd say that upwardly mobile recognition for Monaghan :)
Quote from: gallsman on May 04, 2026, 03:11:08 PMHave none of ye ever come across a double elimination format? It's really not that complicated lads.
But it is now a triple elimination format, lose in the provincial championship and then again in round 1 and you are still in the championship
Operated in the Derry championship last yr.
Quote from: Main Street on May 04, 2026, 03:25:35 PMQuote from: blanketattack on May 04, 2026, 02:36:30 PMHow are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
Are Mayo at 8/11 such strong favourites?
Monaghan were 3/1 to beat Derry now they are 7/5 to beat Mayo, I'd say that upwardly mobile recognition for Monaghan :)
Mayo have 3 All-Irelands and Monaghan zero, so that carries weight with the oddsmakers.
Would a better system be let the provincial winners into the quarter finals, the 8 teams that aren't in provincial finals play each other, 4 winners play the provincial losers for a qf place?
Quote from: dec on May 04, 2026, 03:33:43 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 04, 2026, 03:11:08 PMHave none of ye ever come across a double elimination format? It's really not that complicated lads.
But it is now a triple elimination format, lose in the provincial championship and then again in round 1 and you are still in the championship
Used to have it in Armagh as well pre covid and worked well. I suppose it's an improvement on the groups in that way where you could lose 3 games and not be out!
But a repeat pairing can't happen until AI semi... that right?
Quote from: dec on May 04, 2026, 03:33:43 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 04, 2026, 03:11:08 PMHave none of ye ever come across a double elimination format? It's really not that complicated lads.
But it is now a triple elimination format, lose in the provincial championship and then again in round 1 and you are still in the championship
For the AI series, as a replacement for the groups. Figured that didn't need clarifying.
I honestly think majority of games are 50/50. With exception of Galway v Kildare which should be a little more than a training exercise for Galway
Quote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
I'd say the opposite to be fair. Donegal/Kerry the only standout fixture, the rest have a McKenna Cup feel to them.
I'll not berate this format too much for fear that we'd return to the dreaded "group stage" format that is just an aberration in Gaelic football. But let's talk about this round of games as what they are, win and you're still in the championship. Lose and you're still in the championship. There's pretty much next to nothing at stake here. I mean what interest does anyone have in a match where Cork play Meath and both remain in the championship? Or Roscommon v Tyrone?
It's also bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
Quote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
It's a bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
They're not though
Quote from: JoG2 on May 04, 2026, 05:05:34 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
It's a bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
They're not though
Sorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Quote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:08:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 04, 2026, 05:05:34 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
It's a bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
They're not though
Sorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Think round 1 winners should get home advantage
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 05:14:43 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:08:52 PMSorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Think round 1 winners should get home advantage
Since round 1 winners play each other that may be tricky.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 04, 2026, 05:16:37 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 05:14:43 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:08:52 PMSorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Think round 1 winners should get home advantage
Since round 1 winners play each other that may be tricky.
Slightly!
Hard to get used to all these changes
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 05:14:43 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:08:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 04, 2026, 05:05:34 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
It's a bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
They're not though
Sorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Think round 1 winners should get home advantage
But the structure of it means that's impossible. Round 1 winners play another round 1 winner. And the alternative (a round 1 winner plays a round 1 loser) makes the format even more ridiculous.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 04, 2026, 03:47:18 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 04, 2026, 03:25:35 PMQuote from: blanketattack on May 04, 2026, 02:36:30 PMHow are Mayo such strong favourites v Monaghan?
Are Mayo at 8/11 such strong favourites?
Monaghan were 3/1 to beat Derry now they are 7/5 to beat Mayo, I'd say that upwardly mobile recognition for Monaghan :)
Mayo have 3 All-Irelands and Monaghan zero, so that carries weight with the oddsmakers.
You have a unique insight into the minds of oddmakers that an event from 75 years ago carries such weight today on the football pitch or perhaps you're prone to making an idiotic statement.
Quote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:18:41 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 05:14:43 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:08:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 04, 2026, 05:05:34 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
It's a bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
They're not though
Sorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Think round 1 winners should get home advantage
But the structure of it means that's impossible. Round 1 winners play another round 1 winner. And the alternative (a round 1 winner plays a round 1 loser) makes the format even more ridiculous.
Yep getting myself mixed up with the format.
It is what it is, but it's a shame theres not more of a carrot for provincial finalists and especially winners
Some yapping on Twitter, regular yaps no doubt. A lot of people obviously couldn't take 5 minutes of their precious time in recent weeks to see what the new format was actually going to entail.
Wasn't jumping for joy at drawing Derry but I'm sure there was a much bigger groan in Derry circles.
Quote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
I'd say the opposite to be fair. Donegal/Kerry the only standout fixture, the rest have a McKenna Cup feel to them.
I'll not berate this format too much for fear that we'd return to the dreaded "group stage" format that is just an aberration in Gaelic football. But let's talk about this round of games as what they are, win and you're still in the championship. Lose and you're still in the championship. There's pretty much next to nothing at stake here. I mean what interest does anyone have in a match where Cork play Meath and both remain in the championship? Or Roscommon v Tyrone?
It's also bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
That's a good point. £25 entrance fee and it literally doesn't matter if you win or lose. No points at stake and if you lose you are still in anyways.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 04, 2026, 05:54:15 PMSome yapping on Twitter, regular yaps no doubt. A lot of people obviously couldn't take 5 minutes of their precious time in recent weeks to see what the new format was actually going to entail.
Wasn't jumping for joy at drawing Derry but I'm sure there was a much bigger groan in Derry circles.
Sort of sick looking at Derry, what is this the 3rd year now as well as the Ulster final in 23, we better not get fecking Galway in the next round either!
Quote from: Stickittotheman on May 04, 2026, 05:57:06 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
I'd say the opposite to be fair. Donegal/Kerry the only standout fixture, the rest have a McKenna Cup feel to them.
I'll not berate this format too much for fear that we'd return to the dreaded "group stage" format that is just an aberration in Gaelic football. But let's talk about this round of games as what they are, win and you're still in the championship. Lose and you're still in the championship. There's pretty much next to nothing at stake here. I mean what interest does anyone have in a match where Cork play Meath and both remain in the championship? Or Roscommon v Tyrone?
It's also bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
That's a good point. £25 entrance fee and it literally doesn't matter if you win or lose. No points at stake and if you lose you are still in anyways.
Of course it matters if you win or lose. If you win you are one game from a quarter final and still have a second chance. If you lose you are two games from a quarter final and no more chances.
Also the teams who win first two games will have a week off before quarter finals.
Of course it matters if you lose ffs.
Westmeath will really relish the local bragging rights and sticking it to McCabe after that draw. A good tie for both teams on the face of it, but Cavan wouldn't kick snow off a rope at this stage.
Quote from: gallsman on May 04, 2026, 06:22:51 PMOf course it matters if you lose ffs.
How? What's the jeopardy? You are still in and all it might entail is one more game before your QF. That is hardly the end of the World.
The jeopardy is that if you lose the next game your season is over. It's not complicated.
Quote from: gallsman on May 04, 2026, 07:03:38 PMThe jeopardy is that if you lose the next game your season is over. It's not complicated.
It's not
Quote from: gallsman on May 04, 2026, 07:03:38 PMThe jeopardy is that if you lose the next game your season is over. It's not complicated.
Which means the jeopardy is in the next round of games not this one.
Reply to Cavanmaniac:
I don't think there's much bad feeling towards McCabe at this stage. It's understandable that he would want to take the opportunity to manage Cavan. McHugh has generated such positivity that most people have moved on.
It's only a good draw if you win, but you're right in that we're both among the lowest seeds in the competition. A win in this match guarantees one of us a shot at making a QF and at least three matches in the AI series. That's a big prize.
I think Meath will be happy enough. They won't fear Cork and will travel with a lot to prove. It could be a cracker.
The Dublin match is probably the last thing Louth wanted. I feel this match takes on a lot of significance for Louth. They've had a superb run over the last while, at all levels. Another defeat could dampen things down. A win however, would set the world to right again for them. They need to learn from Portlaoise.
Kerry v Donegal is mouth watering and I'm really looking forward to the Connacht v Ulster ties.
There's significant jeopardy in losing if you're hoping to be a contender.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 06:10:02 PMQuote from: bennydorano on May 04, 2026, 05:54:15 PMSome yapping on Twitter, regular yaps no doubt. A lot of people obviously couldn't take 5 minutes of their precious time in recent weeks to see what the new format was actually going to entail.
Wasn't jumping for joy at drawing Derry but I'm sure there was a much bigger groan in Derry circles.
Sort of sick looking at Derry, what is this the 3rd year now as well as the Ulster final in 23, we better not get fecking Galway in the next round either!
Or us!
Quote from: J70 on May 04, 2026, 08:47:32 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 06:10:02 PMQuote from: bennydorano on May 04, 2026, 05:54:15 PMSome yapping on Twitter, regular yaps no doubt. A lot of people obviously couldn't take 5 minutes of their precious time in recent weeks to see what the new format was actually going to entail.
Wasn't jumping for joy at drawing Derry but I'm sure there was a much bigger groan in Derry circles.
Sort of sick looking at Derry, what is this the 3rd year now as well as the Ulster final in 23, we better not get fecking Galway in the next round either!
Or us!
Yeah please avoid!
Quote from: J70 on May 04, 2026, 08:47:32 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 06:10:02 PMQuote from: bennydorano on May 04, 2026, 05:54:15 PMSome yapping on Twitter, regular yaps no doubt. A lot of people obviously couldn't take 5 minutes of their precious time in recent weeks to see what the new format was actually going to entail.
Wasn't jumping for joy at drawing Derry but I'm sure there was a much bigger groan in Derry circles.
Sort of sick looking at Derry, what is this the 3rd year now as well as the Ulster final in 23, we better not get fecking Galway in the next round either!
Or us!
As round two is either winners vs winners or losers vs losers a meeting with Donegal in that round is less likely. Galway is very likely to win and Armagh fairly likely to win, but Donegal's chances are less.
It's a shame this draw wasn't left until after the provincial finals or even draw the Munster/Connacht teams next Monday and the Leinster/Ulster after their finals. All the talk this week should be about Cork/Kerry and Galway/Rossies, but no doubt there'll be huge coverage of the draw especially with the Donegal/Kerry match up coming out of the bowl.
Jack O'Connor
Quote"I suppose it isn't ideal, really, to have the draw before the Munster final because I actually think it takes from the Munster final,"
"The Munster final should be a big standalone fixture in its own right, and I just hope it won't distract people, that's all. We'll be doing our level best to make sure it doesn't distract the players, which is the most important thing. But I have no interest in discussing that game [Donegal] until the Cork game is over because we'll have our hands full with Cork besides worrying about the game that is coming afterwards.
"Munster Council this week will be trying to promote the Munster final and then you have this draw which will get people talking about the All-Ireland series. It just looks like a bit of disconnect there somewhere.
"I am not making a big song and dance about it, I just think the Munster final should be an important enough fixture to give it everybody's full attention."
Quote from: APM on May 03, 2026, 10:17:57 PMIt's completely stupid. So the Ulster winner could draw Donegal and the Ulster loser could draw Cavan and you're better off losing Ulster.
The non-provincial finalists should be seeded by league position and the lowest seeds (Cavan, Kildare, Westmeath and Tyrone) should be drawn to play the provincial winners. At least that would make more sense.
Or even better, the provincial winners get a home draw and are seeded 1-4, seeds 5-8 are derived via league placing and also get a home draw. Provincial final rematches are not allowed in round 1, but that's it.
Lose the provincial final and there's a good chance you are away from home against a strong team - as things stand, I think this might be the beginning of the end for the provincials. Do 5 in a row seeking galway really give a feck? Similarly, Kerry? Armagh might, but just to scratch that itch and get those ulster medals to complete the set, but next year??
Will dubs come in for the leinster final v westmeath or wait the fortnight and go to the louth game instead??
Valid points
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 05:21:40 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:18:41 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 04, 2026, 05:14:43 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:08:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 04, 2026, 05:05:34 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 04, 2026, 05:02:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 04, 2026, 01:43:43 PMHappy enough with that draw. Some high quality matches there.
It's a bit of a cod that a Cavan team who've been beyond atrocious this year are just a win against Westmeath away from a AI q-final.
They're not though
Sorry followed the format wrong.
Still there's not that much incentive to win given that your reward may be to play Donegal, Dublin or Kerry in their home patch.
Think round 1 winners should get home advantage
But the structure of it means that's impossible. Round 1 winners play another round 1 winner. And the alternative (a round 1 winner plays a round 1 loser) makes the format even more ridiculous.
Yep getting myself mixed up with the format.
It is what it is, but it's a shame theres not more of a carrot for provincial finalists and especially winners
In the last format the provincial runners up got the short end of the stick in the draw for the group stages, now they are on the same pedestal as the provincial winners, what more of a carrot do you want for the runners up?
A disgrace the draw is before the provincials finals, does nothing for the promotions of the provincial finals. Time and time again the GAA shoot themselves in the foot in this department.
Galway had the group of death the last 3 years which was scant reward for winning Connacht so definitely due a bit of luck in draws going forward.
Quote from: Main Street on May 05, 2026, 01:51:44 AMIn the last format the provincial runners up got the short end of the stick in the draw for the group stages, now they are on the same pedestal as the provincial winners, what more of a carrot do you want for the runners up?
The problem with just giving runners up a bonus is that is benefits the likes of Cork, who are perpetual under performers (relative to their potential).
What is really needed is a more sophisticated seeeding that awards teams who beat Sam teams in their provincial series, but that would be hard to explain.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 05, 2026, 10:25:26 AMQuote from: Main Street on May 05, 2026, 01:51:44 AMIn the last format the provincial runners up got the short end of the stick in the draw for the group stages, now they are on the same pedestal as the provincial winners, what more of a carrot do you want for the runners up?
The problem with just giving runners up a bonus is that is benefits the likes of Cork, who are perpetual under performers (relative to their potential).
What is really needed is a more sophisticated seeeding that awards teams who beat Sam teams in their provincial series, but that would be hard to explain.
Ah stop, we're confused enough with this back door system lol
Is there anything to be said about just going back to the original back door system?? Open draw and one more chance.
I think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2026, 01:41:44 PMRepeat of the 2025 All-Ireland final the stand out tie.
Dublin v Louth
Cork v Meath
Monaghan v Mayo
Westmeath v Cavan
Kerry v Donegal
Galway v Kildare
Armagh v Derry
Roscommon v Tyrone
I'm going to go for a clean sweep of home wins here.
Dublin v Louth - Can't see Louth being as poor again. I still expect Dublin to win again. This time by maybe 4 or 5 point.
Cork v Meath - I expect Cork to rattle Kerry this weekend. I expect them to beat an overhyped Meath side. The top of the ground will find Keoghan and Menton out. Cork by 2.
Monaghan v Mayo - When you expect Monaghan to kick out they seem to disappoint. Won't be much in this game but Monaghan to win it by a point or two. Mayo are impossible to predict.
Westmeath v Cavan - Westmeath should just about win this but Cavan to have a right cut. Westmeath find themselves in a Leinster final having beat Meath (self confessed Leinster Champions 2026) and a woeful Kildare side. The most likely away victory will be here.
Kerry v Donegal - I still think there is a kick in Donegal and while they mightn't win here they have still have a big say in where Sam ends up. Kerry to win after a few shaky moments.
Galway v Kildare - Only one winner here. Galway by at least 10. Kildare are poor. That is all.
Armagh v Derry - Armagh purring away nicely. Derry blowing hot and cold. Armagh will have too much.
Roscommon v Tyrone - Roscommon are playing some great football this year while Tyrone haven't got going at all. Rossies to win a ding dong high scoring game. Tyrone to come on from that game.
Now go put money on the opposite of what I said ;D
Quote from: mup on May 05, 2026, 12:42:08 PMNow go put money on the opposite of what I said ;D
No, no, no.......put your money on the opposite of what Moonster predicts :)
Will Dublin be using their home ground or "neutral Croke Park"?
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 05, 2026, 12:51:08 PMQuote from: mup on May 05, 2026, 12:42:08 PMNow go put money on the opposite of what I said ;D
No, no, no.......put your money on the opposite of what Moonster predicts :)
He better back Monaghan and Derry or I'm going to be worried!
Don't think Cavan have played Westmeath in the Championship before.
The craic will be mighty on The Bridge in Finea.
Myles the Slasher would be in his element.
Played in the qualifiers in 2014. Cavan won by a point.
Interesting one with Cavan manager Dermot McCabe being up against his nephew Eoghan, who came on as a sub (twice) against Kildare.
I stand corrected Shark. Thanks.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
Quote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
Yeah thats a good point.
Probably no perfect solution
Had Leitrim made the Connacht final, I believe they would have had done what no county had to do in Ulster, Leinster, or Munster - beat a Div 1 team to make their provincial final. Am I wrong in thinking only we had to do that?
Quote from: weareros on May 05, 2026, 04:04:50 PMHad Leitrim made the Connacht final, I believe they would have had done what no county had to do in Ulster, Leinster, or Munster - beat a Div 1 team to make their provincial final. Am I wrong in thinking only we had to do that?
Are we counting promoted teams as well? Didn't Westmeath beat Meath?
Quote from: weareros on May 05, 2026, 04:04:50 PMHad Leitrim made the Connacht final, I believe they would have had done what no county had to do in Ulster, Leinster, or Munster - beat a Div 1 team to make their provincial final. Am I wrong in thinking only we had to do that?
Am I reading that wrong? Tyrone would have had to beat a division 1 team (Armagh) Down would have had to beat 2 (Armagh/Donegal) Derry would have had to beat Monaghan (D1 this year). Westmeath had to beat Meath (D1 next year), Louth would have had to beat the Dubs (D1 this year)
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 05, 2026, 12:51:08 PMQuote from: mup on May 05, 2026, 12:42:08 PMNow go put money on the opposite of what I said ;D
No, no, no.......put your money on the opposite of what Moonster predicts :)
;D I should have held tough till he made his choices.
TV/streaming coverage deal for the All-Ireland Football Series:
QuoteRound 1 (8 Games):
6 - GAA+
2 - RTÉ
Round 2 (8 Games):
3 - GAA+
2 - RTÉ
Round 3 (4 Games):
3 - GAA+
1 - RTÉ
QFs (4 Games):
2 - GAA+
2 - RTÉ
SFs (2 Games):
2 - RTÉ/BBC
Final (1 Game):
1 - RTÉ/BBC
50 on
Kerry
Mayo
Galway
Armagh
Louth
Westmeath
Tyrone
Meath
Printing money
Quote from: Rossfan on May 05, 2026, 12:58:38 PMWill Dublin be using their home ground or "neutral Croke Park"?
Play it in Parnells. Won't even fill that.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 05, 2026, 06:27:08 PMTV/streaming coverage deal for the All-Ireland Football Series:
QuoteRound 2 (8 Games):
3 - GAA+
2 - RTÉ
Why only 5 games covered for this round? Some teams will be leaving that day, while other games will feature the winners from Round 1 so possibly attractive combinations e.g. Mayo/Galway, Donegal/Tyrone or Armagh/Dublin. Surely GAA+ can rise to cover them all this stage?
Quote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
So you think the integrity is maintained by ensuring that some team have an advantage over others on a non merit basis? I'm really not sure I follow.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 07:02:37 PMQuote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
So you think the integrity is maintained by ensuring that some team have an advantage over others on a non merit basis? I'm really not sure I follow.
I'd rather it was weighted to avoid say Tipp getting to a Munster final by beating Waterford and Limerick, they'd be wasting their own and everyone elses time in Sam. Same in Connacht, the big 3 should never be on the same side of the draw.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 05, 2026, 07:08:21 PMI'd rather it was weighted to avoid say Tipp getting to a Munster final by beating Waterford and Limerick, they'd be wasting their own and everyone elses time in Sam. Same in Connacht, the big 3 should never be on the same side of the draw.
Munster is weighted this year, but that just ensures that Cork and Kerry are inevitably in Sam. Kerry would anyway, but Cork might not be.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 05, 2026, 08:01:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 05, 2026, 07:08:21 PMI'd rather it was weighted to avoid say Tipp getting to a Munster final by beating Waterford and Limerick, they'd be wasting their own and everyone elses time in Sam. Same in Connacht, the big 3 should never be on the same side of the draw.
Munster is weighted this year, but that just ensures that Cork and Kerry are inevitably in Sam. Kerry would anyway, but Cork might not be.
Munster even amended their rules Cork could be on opposite side of Kerry in the draw.
Quote from: moonster on May 05, 2026, 09:41:52 PMQuote from: armaghniac on May 05, 2026, 08:01:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 05, 2026, 07:08:21 PMI'd rather it was weighted to avoid say Tipp getting to a Munster final by beating Waterford and Limerick, they'd be wasting their own and everyone elses time in Sam. Same in Connacht, the big 3 should never be on the same side of the draw.
Munster is weighted this year, but that just ensures that Cork and Kerry are inevitably in Sam. Kerry would anyway, but Cork might not be.
Munster even amended their rules Cork could be on opposite side of Kerry in the draw.
Clare and Kerry were the seeded teams in Munster this year, as they were last year's finalists.
Next year will be based on league position i.e. Cork and Kerry
Quote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 07:02:37 PMQuote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
So you think the integrity is maintained by ensuring that some team have an advantage over others on a non merit basis? I'm really not sure I follow.
Why is any competition seeded? So the final has the best teams and the top seeds aren't knocking each other out only to leave a one sided spectacle in the final. Galway and Roscommon are there on merit.
The first round of the qualifiers is all the better not to have London there because of a handy draw (say Leitrim & Sligo). The only beneficiary of that would be whoever draws them in rounds 1 and 2 as they might as well have a bye. You get an uneven contest and the overall tournament is skewed because other teams won't have a such a handy draw.
The real question is why would you want teams in there that can't compete? I would seed based on league position by the way.
Quote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 10:29:17 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 07:02:37 PMQuote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
So you think the integrity is maintained by ensuring that some team have an advantage over others on a non merit basis? I'm really not sure I follow.
Why is any competition seeded? So the final has the best teams and the top seeds aren't knocking each other out only to leave a one sided spectacle in the final. Galway and Roscommon are there on merit.
The first round of the qualifiers is all the better not to have London there because of a handy draw (say Leitrim & Sligo). The only beneficiary of that would be whoever draws them in rounds 1 and 2 as they might as well have a bye. You get an uneven contest and the overall tournament is skewed because other teams won't have a such a handy draw.
The real question is why would you want teams in there that can't compete? I would seed based on league position by the way.
I don't want teams in there that can't compete. I want all teams to have as fair a crack as possible.
It's not a level playing field for one side to have to win one game against any where between the 3rd and 5th best team in their province in order to guarantee the same thing that a team from Ulster might have to beat the three best teams in their province to achieve.
I think any system for the all Ireland has to address this issue.
Personally I'd run the provincial competitions as a completely separate competition
Quote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 10:47:04 PMQuote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 10:29:17 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 07:02:37 PMQuote from: APM on May 05, 2026, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 05, 2026, 12:33:30 PMI think the first thing that needs addressed is the ability of provinces to seed teams which directly impacts on the All Ireland series. For example had Cork drawn Kerry in an open draw in the Munster Semi final Cavan would now be in the Tailtean cup. That to me seems extremely unfair.
As does this idea of half avoiding repeat fixtures. Again impacted by seeding control by a province. It creates an unlevel playing field.
Disagree, don't think it helps the integrity of a competition if a Division 4 team by virtue of a lopsided provincial draw ends up in the AI series, giving stronger teams an easy draw.
Take London the year they made it to the Connacht final (2012?). In this format that only benefits the teams that are drawn out against them. At least this year Down were excluded at the expense of Westmeath. Imagine they were excluded at the expense of London by virtue of wins over Sligo & Leitrim.
Ps - had Leitrim made the Connacht final this year, they would have been there on merit!
So you think the integrity is maintained by ensuring that some team have an advantage over others on a non merit basis? I'm really not sure I follow.
Why is any competition seeded? So the final has the best teams and the top seeds aren't knocking each other out only to leave a one sided spectacle in the final. Galway and Roscommon are there on merit.
The first round of the qualifiers is all the better not to have London there because of a handy draw (say Leitrim & Sligo). The only beneficiary of that would be whoever draws them in rounds 1 and 2 as they might as well have a bye. You get an uneven contest and the overall tournament is skewed because other teams won't have a such a handy draw.
The real question is why would you want teams in there that can't compete? I would seed based on league position by the way.
I don't want teams in there that can't compete. I want all teams to have as fair a crack as possible.
It's not a level playing field for one side to have to win one game against any where between the 3rd and 5th best team in their province in order to guarantee the same thing that a team from Ulster might have to beat the three best teams in their province to achieve.
I think any system for the all Ireland has to address this issue.
Personally I'd run the provincial competitions as a completely separate competition
I get that! I wouldn't as I think you would end up with a glorified McKenna Cup. However, we may already be there. Are Kerry completely focused on the Munster Final with Donegal waiting in the wings?
Re the provincials, the semi finals are now more important than the final itself for the team aspiring to do well in the championship.
Quote from: TyroneTam on May 05, 2026, 12:08:15 PMIs there anything to be said about just going back to the original back door system?? Open draw and one more chance.
The old back door qualifier round system had tumbleweed blowing right through it. Whether this new round system is an improvement on the group stages remains to be seen, but thankfully there's no going back to the back door.
Quote from: Main Street on May 05, 2026, 11:30:06 PMRe the provincials, the semi finals are now more important than the final itself for the team aspiring to do well in the championship.
Probably more meaningful anyway. The draws being made at this time have really undermined the finals imo. Especially Kerry v cork, it's hard to imagine that Kerry will be totally focused on winning that 87th munster when they have donegal looming large on the horizon.
Quote from: onefineday on May 06, 2026, 12:52:47 AMQuote from: Main Street on May 05, 2026, 11:30:06 PMRe the provincials, the semi finals are now more important than the final itself for the team aspiring to do well in the championship.
Probably more meaningful anyway. The draws being made at this time have really undermined the finals imo. Especially Kerry v cork, it's hard to imagine that Kerry will be totally focused on winning that 87th munster when they have donegal looming large on the horizon.
Fair point regarding knowing the draw before the provincial final. Not great in my opinion.
With the exception of Kerry and maybe Galway, the other provincial finalists will be buzzing to win a provincial medal. (I'm including Dublin in that given they've so many new lads in and they didn't win it last year)
One of the issues I have with the condensed season is that I feel it takes away from the excitement and anticipation you used to get building to a big game. This system has amplified that particularly with the draw being made so early. Hopefully that improves when we get to the actual knockout rounds
Dublin v Louth
Cork v Meath
Monaghan v Mayo
Westmeath v Cavan
Kerry v Donegal
Galway v Kildare
Armagh v Derry
Roscommon v Tyrone
Quote from: Main Street on May 05, 2026, 11:30:06 PMRe the provincials, the semi finals are now more important than the final itself for the team aspiring to do well in the championship.
At the risk of repeating myself....
Only the 4 Champions should be seeded/given home draw.
Remaining 12 in the same pot.
(Would prefer if the Group systems had been maintained with tweaks but sin scéalveile)
Let me see if I have this straight:
8 games, with the 8 winners and losers pairing off. The 4 teams that win a second time get a bye to the Quarter final. The 4 teams which lose twice are out. The 8 teams which split their games playoff with four advancing to the QF.
Essentially, when the 8 initial winners meet it's the same as the provincial finals under the old system - the winners going straight to the QF, the losers getting a second chance.
Aren't these additional 20 games redundant? Why not return to the Back Door system? One benefit: there would be time to replay drawn games and no championship games would be decided by a shootout. You know, choose competition integrity over cheap entertainment.
I suppose going back to the old system, the GAA would be seen as having made a mistake changing the system in the first place. We all know bureaucrats never admit when they're wrong.
I shouldn't complain. After all its the GAA. Don't like the system or the rules, just be patient, wait a few years and they'll change again.
When I began watching 15 years ago I thought the unique system and amateur status of the players set the GAA above all other sporting competitions. Unfortunately the former could not be counted on to last.
Reminds me of my younger days, when I'd take a deck of cards or dice and, with my imagination, create my own sports league. After a few seasons I'd get bored with the format and change things up.
The difference is that I was a little kid. What's the GAA's excuse?
Cheer up Eoin.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 06, 2026, 12:17:47 PMCheer up Eoin.
A mature, considered response.
Eoin's right, the constant churn of fixtures, rules, structures, underage groups and split season is putting the casual fan off the GAA.
The GAA brass now have an addiction to tinkering, like Father Ted trying to take the dents out of the car. Every change brings with it 2-3 large consequences and yet the GAA continues to pile up the changes.
I hate this backdoor, second chance nonsense. Straight knock out was the way to go. Provincial champions straight through to quarter finals, losing provincial teams into last 12 and the 8 remaining teams starting out in a preliminary qualifier knock out game to make the last 12. The losing provincial finalists can have a home draw for their last 12 game if you want. Every game then is do or die and straight knockout. What a championship should be.
Quote from: Laois Rising on May 06, 2026, 02:57:31 PMI hate this backdoor, second chance nonsense. Straight knock out was the way to go. Provincial champions straight through to quarter finals, losing provincial teams into last 12 and the 8 remaining teams starting out in a preliminary qualifier knock out game to make the last 12. The losing provincial finalists can have a home draw for their last 12 game if you want. Every game then is do or die and straight knockout. What a championship should be.
Indeed
Must be the Sun!
Quote from: JoG2 on May 06, 2026, 03:33:03 PMQuote from: Laois Rising on May 06, 2026, 02:57:31 PMI hate this backdoor, second chance nonsense. Straight knock out was the way to go. Provincial champions straight through to quarter finals, losing provincial teams into last 12 and the 8 remaining teams starting out in a preliminary qualifier knock out game to make the last 12. The losing provincial finalists can have a home draw for their last 12 game if you want. Every game then is do or die and straight knockout. What a championship should be.
Indeed
Like that idea but the argument against it is the imbalance in the provinces, depending on what mood Cork are in Kerry can get to a quarter final without breaking a sweat, same with Dublin and Leinster.
Provincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
Quote from: Laois Rising on May 06, 2026, 02:57:31 PMI hate this backdoor, second chance nonsense. Straight knock out was the way to go. Provincial champions straight through to quarter finals, losing provincial teams into last 12 and the 8 remaining teams starting out in a preliminary qualifier knock out game to make the last 12. The losing provincial finalists can have a home draw for their last 12 game if you want. Every game then is do or die and straight knockout. What a championship should be.
I understand why nearly 30 years ago the AI Hurling was revamped. Galway were essentially assured of a semi final place, and Ulster was so far behind Leinster and Munster that it made sense that in order to join the "big boys" the Ulster rep ought to have one proper test against a potential AI winner. Hurling was always Munster's game, but at the time Leinster had several pretenders.
Football could have easily carried on without any backdoor. Ultimately it provided a platform for Munster and Leinster teams to lose provincially, without it scuppering their AI track, which was often helped by playing several fixtures in advance of the QFs which built up confidence. The argument used be that it was unfair to end a summer after one game. But in truth, there was still the NFL and the Club game. So it wasn't all a waste.
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 06, 2026, 04:04:46 PMQuote from: Laois Rising on May 06, 2026, 02:57:31 PMI hate this backdoor, second chance nonsense. Straight knock out was the way to go. Provincial champions straight through to quarter finals, losing provincial teams into last 12 and the 8 remaining teams starting out in a preliminary qualifier knock out game to make the last 12. The losing provincial finalists can have a home draw for their last 12 game if you want. Every game then is do or die and straight knockout. What a championship should be.
I understand why nearly 30 years ago the AI Hurling was revamped. Galway were essentially assured of a semi final place, and Ulster was so far behind Leinster and Munster that it made sense that in order to join the "big boys" the Ulster rep ought to have one proper test against a potential AI winner. Hurling was always Munster's game, but at the time Leinster had several pretenders.
Football could have easily carried on without any backdoor. Ultimately it provided a platform for Ulster, Munster and Leinster teams to lose provincially, without it scuppering their AI track, which was often helped by playing several fixtures in advance of the QFs which built up confidence. The argument used be that it was unfair to end a summer after one game. But in truth, there was still the NFL and the Club game. So it wasn't all a waste.
Have your league, then provincials, then after that I'd love to see an unseeded knockout competition, fa cup style.
With around 32 teams, it's almost made for it. 5 rounds, good draws, bad draws, minnow taking out a giant, two favourites meeting in the first round. Unfamiliar matches. Reduced playing season and fixture congestion
Quote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
wise up.
GAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
Quote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
Easy. First, it enhances the excitement factor of games. Second, county teams also train for the League (the fact that a culture of irrelevance has been applied to it is not a reason to ignore it). Third, it provides for a more open competition where a "giant killing" can lead to greater rewards as opposed to further rounds before you meet a Kerry who beat you.
There remains plenty of football if the fan is interested and having one extra game (for some counties) isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
Quote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
I've always said this. Under the original straight knockout system, 16 teams only had 1 championship game a year, 8 teams had 2.
For those of us old enough to remember, half of Ireland their county had 1 championship game in the early summer and that was it all over.
Its no way to promote a brand or competition at all.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 06, 2026, 04:31:43 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
I've always said this. Under the original straight knockout system, 16 teams only had 1 championship game a year, 8 teams had 2.
For those of us old enough to remember, half of Ireland their county had 1 championship game in the early summer and that was it all over.
Its no way to promote a brand or competition at all.
I'm sure there are many men who were very fine footballers in their day from weaker counties who were lucky if they accumulated a total of 10-15 championship matches over their entire careers.
Declan Browne, an elite level corner forward, played 25 championship matches for Tipperary, and that is with the second half of his career falling in the era of the qualifier system. He'd be a leading star of the game if he played today given the greater exposure afforded by the expanded intercounty set up.
The idea of going back to one-and-done is absolute madness.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 06, 2026, 04:31:43 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
I've always said this. Under the original straight knockout system, 16 teams only had 1 championship game a year, 8 teams had 2.
For those of us old enough to remember, half of Ireland their county had 1 championship game in the early summer and that was it all over.
Its no way to promote a brand or competition at all.
And yet some of the most famous games happened under that system. Down v Derry in 1994 springs to mind. Tailteann Park used be wedged for the early games in the Leinster Championship. Perhaps unfortunate, but it was also good exposure for just how competitive and do-or-die the competition was. As a supporter you just got on with it if your county went out in June.
Quote from: J70 on May 06, 2026, 04:41:49 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 06, 2026, 04:31:43 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
I've always said this. Under the original straight knockout system, 16 teams only had 1 championship game a year, 8 teams had 2.
For those of us old enough to remember, half of Ireland their county had 1 championship game in the early summer and that was it all over.
Its no way to promote a brand or competition at all.
I'm sure there are many men who were very fine footballers in their day from weaker counties who were lucky if they accumulated a total of 10-15 championship matches over their entire careers.
Declan Browne, an elite level corner forward, played 25 championship matches for Tipperary, and that is with the second half of his career falling in the era of the qualifier system. He'd be a leading star of the game if he played today given the greater exposure afforded by the expanded intercounty set up.
The idea of going back to one-and-done is absolute madness.
What "expanded intercounty setup"?
Tipperary are in Division 4, and play in the Tailteann cup. How much exposure do they (or Leitrim/Waterford etc) normally get? 20 seconds highlights on RTE Maybe?
An open championship draw, as suggested earlier, and a good championship run/favourable draw, would do wonders for exposure of such players. Being stuck in the Tailteann cup won't .
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 06, 2026, 04:43:02 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 06, 2026, 04:31:43 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
I've always said this. Under the original straight knockout system, 16 teams only had 1 championship game a year, 8 teams had 2.
For those of us old enough to remember, half of Ireland their county had 1 championship game in the early summer and that was it all over.
Its no way to promote a brand or competition at all.
And yet some of the most famous games happened under that system. Down v Derry in 1994 springs to mind. Tailteann Park used be wedged for the early games in the Leinster Championship. Perhaps unfortunate, but it was also good exposure for just how competitive and do-or-die the competition was. As a supporter you just got on with it if your county went out in June.
Don't forget Meath v Dublin in 1991.
At least when Meath overcame Dublin , and Down overcame Derry , they knew the team they defeated was gone. The path was clearing. Now, you could beat a big team and you know you'll probably be meeting them again in a few weeks .
Cork beat Kerry a few times in Munster , but could just never get over them later on.
Imagine the buzz around Kerry/Donegal next week if it was do or die. Realistically if you're beat twice your year should probably be over, but Donegal know they can afford to lose, obviously wouldn't be good for them but not a total disaster.
Teams playing 23/24 May will have a 3 week wait for Round 2A/B.
Then possibly 3 games in 3 weekends.
Meanwhile Cork to play Meath and any subsequent home games in Páirc Uí Rinn.
GAA+ to show Kerry/Donegal and Meath/Cork on Saturday 23rd.
Presumably Ros and Galway games on the Sunday?
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 04:09:24 PMQuote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
wise up.
Exactly, Clones will be sold out on final day and hopefully a competitive final that has the crowd on tenterhooks. But hypothetically, if Brannigan was given a choice of beating either Mayo and progressing to the next phase (with all that jeopardy and likely elimination on or before semi final) or Armagh, who might he choose?
Quote from: Main Street on May 06, 2026, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 04:09:24 PMQuote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
wise up.
Exactly, Clones will be sold out on final day and hopefully a competitive final that has the crowd on tenterhooks. But hypothetically, if Brannigan was given a choice of beating either Mayo or Armagh, who would he choose?
Armagh. Not even close.
Quote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
Trying to be innovative and having new structures has been tried often now.
Why will the upcoming Ulster,Connacht finals be close to sell outs and Kerry v Cork final have a healthy crowd also if dead?
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 09:49:51 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 06, 2026, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 04:09:24 PMQuote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
wise up.
Exactly, Clones will be sold out on final day and hopefully a competitive final that has the crowd on tenterhooks. But hypothetically, if Brannigan was given a choice of beating either Mayo or Armagh, who would he choose?
Armagh. Not even close.
We have beaten Armagh in the championship, beating Mayo would be an elevation of sorts.
Why, is a Ulster title not worth sthing, only 1 team can win a All-Ireland, u get nothing for getting to a semi or final and losing, as you would know.
I think the group stage that we had last season was grand. The only change I would have is that only 2 from each group go through instead of 3.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 09:49:51 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 06, 2026, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 04:09:24 PMQuote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
wise up.
Exactly, Clones will be sold out on final day and hopefully a competitive final that has the crowd on tenterhooks. But hypothetically, if Brannigan was given a choice of beating either Mayo or Armagh, who would he choose?
Armagh. Not even close.
Yeah Armagh every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
I can't imagine Bannigan telling the grandchildren in 40 years time about the day he captained Monaghan to beat Mayo in a competition they aren't going to win. Now telling them about the day he walked up the steps in Clones to lift an Ulster title after beating Armagh. . .
Quote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
In those other sport leagues you are talking about club teams and seasons lasting up to 10 months! The county teams are all-star teams, like World Cup soccer teams. How many games will a team play at the WC this summer(if it's held)? Yes I know, for Iran, it will be zero.
A good point was made that something had to be done about hurling in the 1990s. It's also true that the original system gave Kerry a soft route to the AI football Semi Final.
With the inter-county championship being the "Jewel in the GAA Crown", one and out for so many counties was too abrupt. I thought the back door system was a good compromise. Gave teams a second chance. Plus with no extra time and no shootouts, counties could get Replayed games - Dublin v Meath '91 the most famous example.
Lots of suggestions here. Plenty of ideas with some merit. I'm sure everyone has their opinion on what system they prefer. In other words, the moment you change the original format, you step on a slippery slope.
When they changed to the back door system, the deal should have been: this is it! If we don't stick with it then we go back to the four provincial champs in the Semi Finals.
At what point do endless changes destroy GAA credibility?
Quote from: square_ball on May 07, 2026, 09:56:28 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 09:49:51 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 06, 2026, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 06, 2026, 04:09:24 PMQuote from: Solo_run on May 06, 2026, 03:54:49 PMProvincials are dead. Time to be innovative and have a new structure.
wise up.
Exactly, Clones will be sold out on final day and hopefully a competitive final that has the crowd on tenterhooks. But hypothetically, if Brannigan was given a choice of beating either Mayo or Armagh, who would he choose?
Armagh. Not even close.
Yeah Armagh every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
I can't imagine Bannigan telling the grandchildren in 40 years time about the day he captained Monaghan to beat Mayo in a competition they aren't going to win. Now telling them about the day he walked up the steps in Clones to lift an Ulster title after beating Armagh. . .
At least the All-Ireland Championship will still be there in 40 years, will the Ulster Championship?
Might be like someone boasting about winning the Oireachtas Cup these days.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 06, 2026, 10:57:17 PMWhy, is a Ulster title not worth sthing, only 1 team can win a All-Ireland, u get nothing for getting to a semi or final and losing, as you would know.
only one team can win an Ulster each year also.........
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 06, 2026, 06:44:40 PMQuote from: J70 on May 06, 2026, 04:41:49 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 06, 2026, 04:31:43 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
I've always said this. Under the original straight knockout system, 16 teams only had 1 championship game a year, 8 teams had 2.
For those of us old enough to remember, half of Ireland their county had 1 championship game in the early summer and that was it all over.
Its no way to promote a brand or competition at all.
I'm sure there are many men who were very fine footballers in their day from weaker counties who were lucky if they accumulated a total of 10-15 championship matches over their entire careers.
Declan Browne, an elite level corner forward, played 25 championship matches for Tipperary, and that is with the second half of his career falling in the era of the qualifier system. He'd be a leading star of the game if he played today given the greater exposure afforded by the expanded intercounty set up.
The idea of going back to one-and-done is absolute madness.
What "expanded intercounty setup"?
Tipperary are in Division 4, and play in the Tailteann cup. How much exposure do they (or Leitrim/Waterford etc) normally get? 20 seconds highlights on RTE Maybe?
An open championship draw, as suggested earlier, and a good championship run/favourable draw, would do wonders for exposure of such players. Being stuck in the Tailteann cup won't .
Maybe, maybe not, but I wasn't arguing FOR the Tailteann per se, although it's much better in my opinion than the alternative of being nothing but a whipping boy when you're already in that position in your province. But let's say someone of Browne's class WAS playing in the Tailteann, especially the latter stages, would that not attract spectators and tv viewers? He may be a freak of nature, but Clifford on his own pulls a lot of people and viewers towards games.
Regardless, I'm for more championship matches for all counties, full stop. I'm less concerned with the details of how that's accomplished than with the thought of going back to the old days when your summer was over, for the majority, by June (or April these days). If the GAA want to trial different formats and come to a decision later about what works best based on attendances and enthusiasm for what is on show, I'm all for it.
When I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
Details on the first 4 games in round 1 confirmed today.
Saturday 23rd May
Kerry v Donegal - Fitzgerald Stadium 3pm on GAA+
Cork v Meath - Paric UI Rinn 5.30pm on GAA+
Galway v Kildare - Pearse Stadium 7.30pm RTE
Sunday 24th
Roscommon v Tyrone - Dr Hyde Park 2pm on GAA+
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 07, 2026, 01:04:14 PMWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
The difficulty is unlike hurling where counties were happy to "give up the ghost", football is far more enfranchised and all counties want a cut at Sam Maguire, even if they know it is remote.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 07, 2026, 01:04:14 PMWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
Competition for the elites you seek? As it stands we barely have a top 5 it's ever changing in a healthy competitive state. The focus should be to make the league more important and as for the provincial championships all they had to do was just seed the winner.
QuoteWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
Only 10 teams? You'd be sick of looking at each other
There's something very futile about these group stages/back doors, lose three games but you're still in it craic. Teams like Kerry and Dublin could have a couple of off days and still win the All Ireland. Shadow boxing nonsense.
I remember after Down beat champion Derry in 94, thinking they could go on and win Sam, now a big hitter is out. And they did.
Current formats suit big teams with big squads , who can handle injuries/an off day.... and little chance for teams even just below the top 2 or 3 - eg. Monaghan Kildare Derry Louth etc of ever realistically winning an All Ireland. Cut throat do or die knockout clashes are really missed these days.
You're making a great argument for an 11 aside Cup competition with no subs.
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 07, 2026, 01:07:28 PMQuote from: Maroon Manc on May 07, 2026, 01:04:14 PMWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
The difficulty is unlike hurling where counties were happy to "give up the ghost", football is far more enfranchised and all counties want a cut at Sam Maguire, even if they know it is remote.
But they all do have a cut at Sam, if you aren't good enough to get up the leagues and not good enough to get to a provincial final then you don't deserve a chance. The TC and leagues are great for teams to develop and push themselves up the ranks.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2026, 03:14:58 PMQuote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 07, 2026, 01:07:28 PMQuote from: Maroon Manc on May 07, 2026, 01:04:14 PMWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
The difficulty is unlike hurling where counties were happy to "give up the ghost", football is far more enfranchised and all counties want a cut at Sam Maguire, even if they know it is remote.
But they all do have a cut at Sam, if you aren't good enough to get up the leagues and not good enough to get to a provincial final then you don't deserve a chance. The TC and leagues are great for teams to develop and push themselves up the ranks.
would your opinion be the same had the TC been about when we were in div3 and couldnt win a game in Ulster nevermind make a final?
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 08, 2026, 08:32:24 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2026, 03:14:58 PMQuote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 07, 2026, 01:07:28 PMQuote from: Maroon Manc on May 07, 2026, 01:04:14 PMWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
The difficulty is unlike hurling where counties were happy to "give up the ghost", football is far more enfranchised and all counties want a cut at Sam Maguire, even if they know it is remote.
But they all do have a cut at Sam, if you aren't good enough to get up the leagues and not good enough to get to a provincial final then you don't deserve a chance. The TC and leagues are great for teams to develop and push themselves up the ranks.
would your opinion be the same had the TC been about when we were in div3 and couldnt win a game in Ulster nevermind make a final?
Yes. Best we could hope for then a decent draw in the back door against similar level teams which we got in was it 2017 against the likes of Kildare before being tanked against Tyrone.
At the time we'd have probably had a decent chance at a TC and would have been realistic silverware when we were well behind Tyrone and Donegal in Ulster never mind Kerry/Dublin/Mayo.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2026, 03:14:58 PMThe TC and leagues are great for teams to develop and push themselves up the ranks.
I am not sure the TC or league is serving that purpose as of the 4 winners only Meath have escaped the yo yo of Division 2 to 3. And without the group stage of All Ireland the TC cup winners are now likely to get fewer games at the top level than before.
A league of 3 divisions 10/10/12 with 2 up 2 down. No league finals. Provincial winners and TC winners from year before plus next best 11 from the league into the All Ireland. (16 teams in whatever format they want)
Could have provincial rounds scheduled during the league if they wanted a bit of knockout action spread across the season.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 08, 2026, 09:55:50 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 08, 2026, 08:32:24 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2026, 03:14:58 PMQuote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 07, 2026, 01:07:28 PMQuote from: Maroon Manc on May 07, 2026, 01:04:14 PMWhen I explain too people over here we've a league competition that nobody really wants to win they all laugh and can't understand it as it doesn't make sense and their right!
Get rid of the league, find a way of creating some sort of advantage for winning a provincial title, split the championship into Senior/Intermediate/Junior and find a way of creating enough jeopardy. A 10 team Sam Maguire, 5 home games and 4 away games for a provincial winner. Top 2 into a semi final, 3-6 into the quarter finals and 9th & 10th are relegated. It would be great viewing and very few games that meant nothing.
The difficulty is unlike hurling where counties were happy to "give up the ghost", football is far more enfranchised and all counties want a cut at Sam Maguire, even if they know it is remote.
But they all do have a cut at Sam, if you aren't good enough to get up the leagues and not good enough to get to a provincial final then you don't deserve a chance. The TC and leagues are great for teams to develop and push themselves up the ranks.
would your opinion be the same had the TC been about when we were in div3 and couldnt win a game in Ulster nevermind make a final?
Yes. Best we could hope for then a decent draw in the back door against similar level teams which we got in was it 2017 against the likes of Kildare before being tanked against Tyrone.
At the time we'd have probably had a decent chance at a TC and would have been realistic silverware when we were well behind Tyrone and Donegal in Ulster never mind Kerry/Dublin/Mayo.
hindsight is 20/20 but at the time you would not have had the same opinion
Meath beat Mayo in Ashbourne in a challenge match during the week. Reportedly two teams full strength. Costello and Jones played for Meath with Jones scoring a goal and coming off with a hamstring strain once again.
Rountine wins for kerry and Galway. I hear Galway lads have the 5 in a row t-shirts ready.
Kerry win All Ireland handy this year
Cork and Connacht teams shite the nest at sight of Kerry jersey
Ulster teams sam now. Plus they struggling with new rules. Jimmy peaked for league and was shown up against Down.
Dubs in transition.
Quote from: moonster on May 10, 2026, 12:24:26 PMRountine wins for kerry and Galway. I hear Galway lads have the 5 in a row t-shirts ready.
Nostradamus.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 10, 2026, 07:34:43 PMQuote from: moonster on May 10, 2026, 12:24:26 PMRountine wins for kerry and Galway. I hear Galway lads have the 5 in a row t-shirts ready.
Nostradamus.
NostraDUMB-ASS
David Gough to referee Ros v Tyrone.
Fitzy be a miss for Galway if the rumours are true? Fair play to the lad if so, will attract plenty of stick from the usual idiots online
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 16, 2026, 09:41:57 AMFitzy be a miss for Galway if the rumours are true? Fair play to the lad if so, will attract plenty of stick from the usual idiots online
You'd think he'd have a good choice of women anyway playing county
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 16, 2026, 09:41:57 AMFitzy be a miss for Galway if the rumours are true? Fair play to the lad if so, will attract plenty of stick from the usual idiots online
Did you watch the video?
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 16, 2026, 09:41:57 AMFitzy be a miss for Galway if the rumours are true? Fair play to the lad if so, will attract plenty of stick from the usual idiots online
He's definitely a loss. An underrated player I think. He has improved massively since he first came into the senior setup and has never let us down.
The full back line also is an area in which we have very little depth/cover.
Jack Flynn and Ruari Kinsella are a doubt for the Cork game. We have options to replace Flynn but Kinsella is probably our best player this year so far. Costello returning helps a bit in that role but he's missed a lot of football so far this season.
Quote from: thejuice on May 16, 2026, 03:29:16 PMJack Flynn and Ruari Kinsella are a doubt for the Cork game. We have options to replace Flynn but Kinsella is probably our best player this year so far. Costello returning helps a bit in that role but he's missed a lot of football so far this season.
Any additional information on challenge game.
I have pretty much written off the year after our pathetic collapse against Roscommon.
Thanks in advance
Lot of posters suggesting Armagh are doping. Noone called out the dubs during 6 in a row..
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 17, 2026, 11:32:34 PMLot of posters suggesting Armagh are doping. Noone called out the dubs during 6 in a row..
Who is this Noone fella ? Any relation to A.N. Other ?
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 17, 2026, 11:42:15 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 17, 2026, 11:32:34 PMLot of posters suggesting Armagh are doping. Noone called out the dubs during 6 in a row..
Who is this Noone fella ? Any relation to A.N. Other ?
;D
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on May 17, 2026, 11:42:15 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 17, 2026, 11:32:34 PMLot of posters suggesting Armagh are doping. Noone called out the dubs during 6 in a row..
Who is this Noone fella ? Any relation to A.N. Other ?
I can confirm I saw several Armagh players consume at least 10 vodka redbulls!
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2026, 11:53:40 PMDavid Gough to referee Ros v Tyrone.
As someone who never misses Tyrone Senior games that has put me off something serious.
Curious how you as a Roscommon man feel about him? Am I tainted from previous encounters with my own county or is it just how he officiates in general?
When can we expect the remaining fixtures confirmed? We'd the first four confirmed before the Munster and Connacht final.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on May 18, 2026, 08:32:38 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2026, 11:53:40 PMDavid Gough to referee Ros v Tyrone.
As someone who never misses Tyrone Senior games that has put me off something serious.
Curious how you as a Roscommon man feel about him? Am I tainted from previous encounters with my own county or is it just how he officiates in general?
He's a complete tool.
Have we got to the bottom of wondering why there is a national shortage of referees yet ? 🤔 A real puzzler
If only the GAA would appoint the Refs on the ditches ::)
Hopefully Mr Gough will protect our innocent young players from any dark arts.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2026, 10:30:03 AMHave we got to the bottom of wondering why there is a national shortage of referees yet ? 🤔 A real puzzler
Just watch any club game and the abuse they take from managers, players, supporters. Any club games i've watched lately, it's just constant, shouting, questioning every single call that goes against them. I wouldn't even want to ref a go games match. Do it from time to time and the amount of mouthing from the other team's coaches is enough to put me off. People just can't keep their mouth shut. I admire anyone with a thick enough skin to want to do it!
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 06, 2026, 04:30:51 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 06, 2026, 04:21:58 PMGAA is rare in that it runs off its main competition in so few games. Of the 16 Sam Maguire teams they'll average about 4-5 outings each, with the finalists getting 7-9 . Compare that with Soccer leagues (30-40), NFL (17 minimum), NBA (82 min) etc.
People will mention the national league, but until something radical changes either in structure or GAA psyche, the league will remain little more than a warm-up competition.
Personally id love if the championship season was much bigger and longer. I'll concede though that attendances were relatively poor for those group stage games, so perhaps that isn't the popular public view. What they've come up with is a decent compromise imo
I'll never understand anyone wanting a return to straight knockout, or anything close to it.
1) You're asking your counties players to train for 9 months, for what may be one solitary outing.
2) How can you dislike top level football enough to potentially watch your team play 1 game of football all summer, all in the name of "jeopardy"?
Fcuk jeopardy. The more football the better
Easy. First, it enhances the excitement factor of games. Second, county teams also train for the League (the fact that a culture of irrelevance has been applied to it is not a reason to ignore it). Third, it provides for a more open competition where a "giant killing" can lead to greater rewards as opposed to further rounds before you meet a Kerry who beat you.
There remains plenty of football if the fan is interested and having one extra game (for some counties) isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
I'd like something like this but I know it'll never happen.
Rd 1: 8 div 4 teams v 8 div 3 teams
Rd 2: 8 rd 1 winners v 8 div 2 teams (16 losers from opening 2 rounds enter the Tailteann Cup.)
Rd 3: 8 rd 2 winners v 8 Div 1 teams
From there you go into the AI quarter finals and run off the competition. Provincial championships can still be played pre the AI seriesand will still matter more in some provinces than others.
I personally would give the higher ranked teams home advantage in the opening 3 rounds as that's their reward for doing well in the league, however I wouldn't be against an alternative that gives the lower ranked team home advantage or else a toss of a coin.
Be interesting to see how this latest new format goes.
For the games next weekend Kildare,Tyrone,Donegal and Meath all had the advantage of laying in the long grass and able to prepare for their opponents Cork,Kerry,Roscommon,Galway were focused on their provincial finals.
Galway should still beat Kildare. Donegal v Kerry, Roscommon v Tyrone and Cork v Meath could go either way.
It's untried at County level.
Crowd predictions-
Kerry v Donegal 14/15k at most.
Can't see other than NFL regulars making the hike from Donegal.
Ros v Tyrone. 12k at most. Tyrone haven't the big army of old while a lot of our once a year crew can't figure anything out beyond a Connacht Final.
Galway v Kildare probably won't break 6k.
Cork v Meath, about the same. Now that doubts persist about Meath being a shoe in for Sam, while Cork CB have shunted the footballers out of the way to Páirc Uí Rinn.
Fixtures for the last weekend of this month.
Saturday 30 May
5pm: Westmeath v Cavan GAA+
7.15pm: Armagh v Derry GAA+
Sunday 31 May
2.30pm: Dublin v Louth GAA+
4pm: Monaghan v Mayo RTÉ
Times for TV, no consideration of supporters!!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 18, 2026, 06:30:58 PMTimes for TV, no consideration of supporters!!
Supporters want different things and only Mayo people have a really long journey in that list.
Will the romance and excitement of the Provincials (some of them!) die in the hard world of the AI series as the ould dogs push the young pups aside?
Westmeath v Cavan match tickets sold out in 5 minutes
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 19, 2026, 12:47:38 PMWestmeath v Cavan match tickets sold out in 5 minutes
If any Cavan people got one, they can resell at a profit on the dark web.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2026, 10:30:03 AMHave we got to the bottom of wondering why there is a national shortage of referees yet ? 🤔 A real puzzler
I was surprisingly old when I learned that intercounty referees don't get paid, while club refs do.
I didnt even know that.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2026, 04:06:06 PMIt's untried at County level.
Crowd predictions-
Kerry v Donegal 14/15k at most.
Can't see other than NFL regulars making the hike from Donegal.
Ros v Tyrone. 12k at most. Tyrone haven't the big army of old while a lot of our once a year crew can't figure anything out beyond a Connacht Final.
Galway v Kildare probably won't break 6k.
Cork v Meath, about the same. Now that doubts persist about Meath being a shoe in for Sam, while Cork CB have shunted the footballers out of the way to Páirc Uí Rinn.
Just 1 predicition and 1 correction there. I think there will be 25k+ in Killarney. Fine weather due over weekend aswell always increases the crowd and it's not on Free to air, so..
And Cork footballers CHOSE to play in Páirc ui Rinn, not shunted up there. Good decision too. They should get a 3/4 full ground, better atmosphere rather than a 3/4 EMPTY Páirc ui Chaoimh. That being said I think if Meath are up to match speed quickly I think they'll win this.
Thought the groups worked ok last few years so surprised at yet another change
For me
Donegal
Roscommon
Meath
Louth
Westmeath
Armagh
Mayo
Galway
Altho still think Kerry will be there are there come mid July for the semifinals
Quote from: naka on May 20, 2026, 08:40:24 AMThought the groups worked ok last few years so surprised at yet another change
For me
Donegal
Roscommon
Meath
Louth
Westmeath
Armagh
Mayo
Galway
Altho still think Kerry will be there are there come mid July for the semifinals
Agree with all except I think Monaghan might have enough for Mayo especially in Clones, depends how they lift themselves after a disappointing end to Sunday for them. Home advantage might just swing it for Kerry if they get a few bodies back.
Westmeath couldn't ask for a better draw, if it was another team you could see the highs of the weekend and the celebrations taking their toll but they should have too much quality for Cavan especially in front of a sold out home crowd.
Quote from: naka on May 20, 2026, 08:40:24 AMThought the groups worked ok last few years so surprised at yet another change
For me
Donegal
Roscommon
Meath
Louth
Westmeath
Armagh
Mayo
Galway
Altho still think Kerry will be there are there come mid July for the semifinals
There was dead rubber games in the groups which had impact on attendance and the interest in some of the games.
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 20, 2026, 09:32:49 AMQuote from: naka on May 20, 2026, 08:40:24 AMThought the groups worked ok last few years so surprised at yet another change
For me
Donegal
Roscommon
Meath
Louth
Westmeath
Armagh
Mayo
Galway
Altho still think Kerry will be there are there come mid July for the semifinals
There was dead rubber games in the groups which had impact on attendance and the interest in some of the games.
There were very few dead rubbers and most teams always had something to play for
11,000 at a Dublin/Ros game in 2024 got HQ panicking, the media moaning and then Jarlath went on a jeopardy rant.
Mind you crowds were up 20% or so last year.
Anyway we'll see how the new system goes.
Cannot see Donegal winning down in Killarney, especially with a wounded Kerry out for blood after the league final.
Plus, rumours out of Donegal are that neither Langan or Murphy will feature. Our squad is not that deep in terms of proven experience.
Quote from: J70 on May 20, 2026, 12:03:30 PMCannot see Donegal winning down in Killarney, especially with a wounded Kerry out for blood after the league final.
Plus, rumours out of Donegal are that neither Langan or Murphy will feature. Our squad is not that deep in terms of proven experience.
Yerra. :D
Quote from: J70 on May 20, 2026, 12:03:30 PMCannot see Donegal winning down in Killarney, especially with a wounded Kerry out for blood after the league final.
Plus, rumours out of Donegal are that neither Langan or Murphy will feature. Our squad is not that deep in terms of proven experience.
Murphy won't feature because he's injured or JMcG not wanting to show Kerry too much in Killarney?
https://x.com/StatsAndSolos/status/2057058407534715328
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Quote from: armaghniac on May 20, 2026, 12:57:42 PMhttps://x.com/StatsAndSolos/status/2057058407534715328
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Hard to see how Dublin are 34% to reach a semi final, think they are miles off it. Would fancy most of the teams below them to have a right cut at them.
Quote from: balladmaker on May 20, 2026, 12:22:23 PMQuote from: J70 on May 20, 2026, 12:03:30 PMCannot see Donegal winning down in Killarney, especially with a wounded Kerry out for blood after the league final.
Plus, rumours out of Donegal are that neither Langan or Murphy will feature. Our squad is not that deep in terms of proven experience.
Murphy won't feature because he's injured or JMcG not wanting to show Kerry too much in Killarney?
Don't know.
First thing crossed my mind was maybe he didn't want Murphy to be a target to rile up the crowd after the league final.
Murphy is anything but a shrinking violet, so I doubt if the Kerry team throwing in a few digs would be a worry.
But this is all internet rumour. I haven't even seen anything concrete about the Langan injury since the Down game.
Quote from: J70 on May 20, 2026, 01:43:22 PMQuote from: balladmaker on May 20, 2026, 12:22:23 PMQuote from: J70 on May 20, 2026, 12:03:30 PMCannot see Donegal winning down in Killarney, especially with a wounded Kerry out for blood after the league final.
Plus, rumours out of Donegal are that neither Langan or Murphy will feature. Our squad is not that deep in terms of proven experience.
Murphy won't feature because he's injured or JMcG not wanting to show Kerry too much in Killarney?
Don't know.
First thing crossed my mind was maybe he didn't want Murphy to be a target to rile up the crowd after the league final.
Murphy is anything but a shrinking violet, so I doubt if the Kerry team throwing in a few digs would be a worry.
But this is all internet rumour. I haven't even seen anything concrete about the Langan injury since the Down game.
Im suprised how little we have heard regarding the langan injury. The rumours after the down game was he was out for the season. Then i heard from donegal lad he sprained the ankle out for a month. If he was out for the year would that not be released to the public by now? Maybe he just needs another week or two. If he plays on sat think donegal might sneak it. Its hard to know how to read downs defeat of donegal considering we were so poor the next day against armagh.
Roscommon v tyrone a big game for both. Been impressed by roscommon they need to follow up with another big performance.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2026, 09:35:16 AMQuote from: rodney trotter on May 20, 2026, 09:32:49 AMQuote from: naka on May 20, 2026, 08:40:24 AMThought the groups worked ok last few years so surprised at yet another change
For me
Donegal
Roscommon
Meath
Louth
Westmeath
Armagh
Mayo
Galway
Altho still think Kerry will be there are there come mid July for the semifinals
There was dead rubber games in the groups which had impact on attendance and the interest in some of the games.
There were very few dead rubbers and most teams always had something to play for
It was a poor system. A lot of games to eliminate just a few teams. The current structure isn't great either but has a bit more jeopardy.
They could have just brought the old backdoor system but they would have less tv exposure then.
QuoteHard to see how Dublin are 34% to reach a semi final, think they are miles off it. Would fancy most of the teams below them to have a right cut at them.
These calculations are probably based on odds. The odds for Dublin always overestimate their chances.
If Monaghan were playing Dublin, I'd be betting on the Farneymen.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 20, 2026, 09:03:52 PMQuoteHard to see how Dublin are 34% to reach a semi final, think they are miles off it. Would fancy most of the teams below them to have a right cut at them.
These calculations are probably based on odds. The odds for Dublin always overestimate their chances.
If Monaghan were playing Dublin, I'd be betting on the Farneymen.
Is that damning with faint praise?
Will we get the kerry and donegal teams announced today?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2026, 04:06:06 PMIt's untried at County level.
Crowd predictions-
Kerry v Donegal 14/15k at most.
Can't see other than NFL regulars making the hike from Donegal.
Ros v Tyrone. 12k at most. Tyrone haven't the big army of old while a lot of our once a year crew can't figure anything out beyond a Connacht Final.
Galway v Kildare probably won't break 6k.
Cork v Meath, about the same. Now that doubts persist about Meath being a shoe in for Sam, while Cork CB have shunted the footballers out of the way to Páirc Uí Rinn.
Am I imagining it or does there seem like very little in the way of excitment for these first round 1 matches? The fact that no-one gets knocked out in this round seems to have taken a serious amount of air out of the tyres. Spoken to a fair few GAA people from counties playing and really surprised by the amount of folk who said they'll be watching games on television as opposed to travelling - a lot of these folk would be the those who regularly go to league games. I know cost of living is a factor but have to say a bit surprised. The other thing is the GAA seem to have done a woeful job of educating the public on the actual format - just been gobsmacked with the amount of folk who only seem to have a very fuzzy idea of what happens if teams win/lose these games.
One again the GAA doesn't do marketing or promotion ......
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2026, 08:52:05 AMWestmeath couldn't ask for a better draw, if it was another team you could see the highs of the weekend and the celebrations taking their toll but they should have too much quality for Cavan especially in front of a sold out home crowd.
The only tiny variable that a psychologically brittle and gutless team like Cavan have in their favour, is that they'll be far more comfortable and motivated when dismissed and written off as underdogs, under zero expectation or attention. It'd be in keeping with our ingrained low self-confidence and spiritlessness to locate the fire and gumption we otherwise lack, in external circumstances that the fates construe for us occasionally. They will relish this even more against a neighbouring county whose tails are up, and having a chance to take them down a peg or two (there is no real rancour between the counties, but still). It's also worth remembering that awful though we were against a Monaghan team that rightfully gained a lot of admirers that day and later on, we were somehow still alive in that game until its final knockings.
I'm not in any way saying Cavan will win this, far from it, as Westmeath have been operating on a different celestial plane entirely. But I expect the above, along with our very, very experienced core of players (albeit experienced in failure, mostly) to make Westmeath work hard for it, and it might be a more searching outing for them than the coronation and homecoming most predict.
I might look very foolish after that mouthful a little further down the road, but there it is regardless.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2026, 12:17:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2026, 08:52:05 AMWestmeath couldn't ask for a better draw, if it was another team you could see the highs of the weekend and the celebrations taking their toll but they should have too much quality for Cavan especially in front of a sold out home crowd.
The only tiny variable that a psychologically brittle and gutless team like Cavan have in their favour, is that they'll be far more comfortable and motivated when dismissed and written off as underdogs, under zero expectation or attention. It'd be in keeping with our ingrained low self-confidence and spiritlessness to locate the fire and gumption we otherwise lack, in external circumstances that the fates construe for us occasionally. They will relish this even more against a neighbouring county whose tails are up, and having a chance to take them down a peg or two (there is no real rancour between the counties, but still). It's also worth remembering that awful though we were against a Monaghan team that rightfully gained a lot of admirers that day and later on, we were somehow still alive in that game until its final knockings.
I'm not in any way saying Cavan will win this, far from it, as Westmeath have been operating on a different celestial plane entirely. But I expect the above, along with our very, very experienced core of players (albeit experienced in failure, mostly) to make Westmeath work hard for it, and it might be a more searching outing for them than the coronation and homecoming most predict.
I might look very foolish after that mouthful a little further down the road, but there it is regardless.
The other thing is that Westmeath wouldn't be the first "surprise" provincial winner to turn in a flat performance the next day out after their provincil win.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2026, 12:17:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2026, 08:52:05 AMWestmeath couldn't ask for a better draw, if it was another team you could see the highs of the weekend and the celebrations taking their toll but they should have too much quality for Cavan especially in front of a sold out home crowd.
The only tiny variable that a psychologically brittle and gutless team like Cavan have in their favour, is that they'll be far more comfortable and motivated when dismissed and written off as underdogs, under zero expectation or attention. It'd be in keeping with our ingrained low self-confidence and spiritlessness to locate the fire and gumption we otherwise lack, in external circumstances that the fates construe for us occasionally. They will relish this even more against a neighbouring county whose tails are up, and having a chance to take them down a peg or two (there is no real rancour between the counties, but still). It's also worth remembering that awful though we were against a Monaghan team that rightfully gained a lot of admirers that day and later on, we were somehow still alive in that game until its final knockings.
I'm not in any way saying Cavan will win this, far from it, as Westmeath have been operating on a different celestial plane entirely. But I expect the above, along with our very, very experienced core of players (albeit experienced in failure, mostly) to make Westmeath work hard for it, and it might be a more searching outing for them than the coronation and homecoming most predict.
I might look very foolish after that mouthful a little further down the road, but there it is regardless.
I can't be the only one to enjoy cavanmaniac appraisals of the state of Cavan football. You can't fault your honesty anyway.
Quote from: downgael2065 on May 21, 2026, 09:06:45 AMWill we get the kerry and donegal teams announced today?
Not sure about Donegal but Kerry team will be announced at 8 tonight.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on May 20, 2026, 12:30:25 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2026, 04:06:06 PMIt's untried at County level.
Crowd predictions-
Kerry v Donegal 14/15k at most.
Can't see other than NFL regulars making the hike from Donegal.
Ros v Tyrone. 12k at most. Tyrone haven't the big army of old while a lot of our once a year crew can't figure anything out beyond a Connacht Final.
Galway v Kildare probably won't break 6k.
Cork v Meath, about the same. Now that doubts persist about Meath being a shoe in for Sam, while Cork CB have shunted the footballers out of the way to Páirc Uí Rinn.
Just 1 predicition and 1 correction there. I think there will be 25k+ in Killarney. Fine weather due over weekend aswell always increases the crowd and it's not on Free to air, so..
And Cork footballers CHOSE to play in Páirc ui Rinn, not shunted up there. Good decision too. They should get a 3/4 full ground, better atmosphere rather than a 3/4 EMPTY Páirc ui Chaoimh. That being said I think if Meath are up to match speed quickly I think they'll win this.
Expecting around 25k according to the Examiner, 15k sold by yesterday morning.
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2026, 11:18:09 PMQuote from: armaghniac on May 20, 2026, 09:03:52 PMHard to see how Dublin are 34% to reach a semi final, think they are miles off it. Would fancy most of the teams below them to have a right cut at them.
These calculations are probably based on odds. The odds for Dublin always overestimate their chances.
If Monaghan were playing Dublin, I'd be betting on the Farneymen.
Is that damning with faint praise?
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Saying that Monaghan would beat a county with 20 times its population is just praise, nothing faint about it
Quote from: square_ball on May 21, 2026, 12:32:34 PMI can't be the only one to enjoy cavanmaniac appraisals of the state of Cavan football. You can't fault your honesty anyway.
Ah here, sure I can't even say I enjoy them meself!
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 21, 2026, 12:30:02 PMQuote from: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2026, 12:17:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2026, 08:52:05 AMWestmeath couldn't ask for a better draw, if it was another team you could see the highs of the weekend and the celebrations taking their toll but they should have too much quality for Cavan especially in front of a sold out home crowd.
The only tiny variable that a psychologically brittle and gutless team like Cavan have in their favour, is that they'll be far more comfortable and motivated when dismissed and written off as underdogs, under zero expectation or attention. It'd be in keeping with our ingrained low self-confidence and spiritlessness to locate the fire and gumption we otherwise lack, in external circumstances that the fates construe for us occasionally. They will relish this even more against a neighbouring county whose tails are up, and having a chance to take them down a peg or two (there is no real rancour between the counties, but still). It's also worth remembering that awful though we were against a Monaghan team that rightfully gained a lot of admirers that day and later on, we were somehow still alive in that game until its final knockings.
I'm not in any way saying Cavan will win this, far from it, as Westmeath have been operating on a different celestial plane entirely. But I expect the above, along with our very, very experienced core of players (albeit experienced in failure, mostly) to make Westmeath work hard for it, and it might be a more searching outing for them than the coronation and homecoming most predict.
I might look very foolish after that mouthful a little further down the road, but there it is regardless.
The other thing is that Westmeath wouldn't be the first "surprise" provincial winner to turn in a flat performance the next day out after their provincil win.
True, but they will be playing in a sold out Cusack Park and will want to put in a performance for the home fans. The likes of Senan Baker and Heslin will be pushing for a start.
Cavan have a number of players carrying injuries including Oisin Brady. He has been Cavans best player this year.
Kerry team named, can imagine a few named on the bench will start come throw in.
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Suprising to not see gavin whyte in the squad at all?
Did Paudie Clifford and Joe O'Connor play in the Munster final?
Paudie came off or was forced off at half time, don't think Joe played.
That only 8 of their starting team last year?
Long drive tomorrow. But been too long since a game so will be worth, see we gone from slight underdogs to slight favourites. Why the bookies think that I don't know
Quote from: Dunneroyal on May 22, 2026, 08:20:32 AMLong drive tomorrow. But been too long since a game so will be worth, see we gone from slight underdogs to slight favourites. Why the bookies think that I don't know
That's the money moving the market you lads must be very confident and lumping on!!
Must be Keegan coming out and saying yous thumped Mayo in a challenge game
Yeah apparently beat Mayo, Wicklow and Tyrone in challenge games over the last few weeks. Obviously you don't want to read too much into it but we know Costello was back playing. Ronan Jones injured again. Jack Flynn and Kinsella are both doubtful. Team will probably be named today L.
Meath:
1. Seán Brennan,
2. Donal Keogan,
3. Seán Rafferty,
4. Brian O'Halloran,
5. Seán Coffey,
6. Bryan Menton,
7. Ciarán Caulfield,
8. Cian McBride,
9. Adam O'Neill,
10. Jack O'Connor,
11. Jordan Morris,
12. Cathal Hickey,
13. Mathew Costello,
14. Eoghan Frayne,
15. Aaron Lynch
Subs: 16. Billy Hogan, 17. Ronan Ryan, 18. Killian Smyth, 19. Charlie O'Connor, 20. Ronan Jones, 21. Keith Curtis, 22. James Conlon, 23. Oisín Martin, 24. James McEntee, 25. Jamie Murphy, 26. Seamus Lavin
- Flynn and Kinsella out
- 3 midfielders Menton, O'Neill and McBride
- Largely the same back line as before is a bit of a worry
- James Conlon still on the bench behind Aaron Lynch is a bit of a head scratcher.
Murphy supposedly starting, Jason McGee, Langan and Gallen on the bench.
Take from that what you will.
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Quote from: J70 on May 22, 2026, 12:03:49 PMMurphy supposedly starting, Jason McGee, Langan and Gallen on the bench.
Take from that what you will.
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Jimmy's doing colour vision tests now.
Quote from: J70 on May 22, 2026, 12:03:49 PMMurphy supposedly starting, Jason McGee, Langan and Gallen on the bench.
Take from that what you will.
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Some serious quality on that bench. Be surprised if no changes to that team.
Genuine question but with the current format are you better losing or winning this round?
I know the obvious answer is winning as it gives you two shots at making the quarterfinal but my concern is this.
If you win and we assume everyone at this stage is trying to win then you have the best teams in round 2A so it's a hard match potentially away.
Lose that you are playing the following week against a team coming off a win. You also have to play the following week again.
Alternatively if you lose the first round you have the jeopardy of straight knock out immediately but theoretically against an easier team and then you have some momentum into a preliminary quarterfinal against a team coming off a defeat the weekend before.
I can see advantages to both approaches. I think the teams playing round 1 a bit later have obviously more knowledge who is in which pot for round 2 and they may be a factor.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 22, 2026, 04:47:32 PMGenuine question but with the current format are you better losing or winning this round?
I know the obvious answer is winning as it gives you two shots at making the quarterfinal but my concern is this.
If you win and we assume everyone at this stage is trying to win then you have the best teams in round 2A so it's a hard match potentially away.
Lose that you are playing the following week against a team coming off a win. You also have to play the following week again.
Alternatively if you lose the first round you have the jeopardy of straight knock out immediately but theoretically against an easier team and then you have some momentum into a preliminary quarterfinal against a team coming off a defeat the weekend before.
I can see advantages to both approaches. I think the teams playing round 1 a bit later have obviously more knowledge who is in which pot for round 2 and they may be a factor.
Lose and you're potentially facing Donegal/Kerry in a do or die game. I know what I'd rather!
Lose and you are one loss from being out with a potential away trip to some top teams; win and you have two shots at a 1/4 final.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 22, 2026, 04:47:32 PMGenuine question but with the current format are you better losing or winning this round?
I know the obvious answer is winning as it gives you two shots at making the quarterfinal but my concern is this.
If you win and we assume everyone at this stage is trying to win then you have the best teams in round 2A so it's a hard match potentially away.
Lose that you are playing the following week against a team coming off a win. You also have to play the following week again.
Alternatively if you lose the first round you have the jeopardy of straight knock out immediately but theoretically against an easier team and then you have some momentum into a preliminary quarterfinal against a team coming off a defeat the weekend before.
I can see advantages to both approaches. I think the teams playing round 1 a bit later have obviously more knowledge who is in which pot for round 2 and they may be a factor.
The point is that the teams are not seeded directly, it is only their reaching the provincial finals.
In terms of risk, getting the losers of Westmeath/Cavan are below the losers of Kerry/Donegal. You are not guaranteed a weaker time as a loser because the two top-rated teams in the country are playing each other.
If any team loses this weekend and then finds themselves in the All-Ireland Quarter-final it will be three games in 14 days against a rested Quarter-final opponent. Best to win this weekend and look to avoid that situation.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 22, 2026, 02:29:38 PMQuote from: J70 on May 22, 2026, 12:03:49 PMMurphy supposedly starting, Jason McGee, Langan and Gallen on the bench.
Take from that what you will.
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Some serious quality on that bench. Be surprised if no changes to that team.
There is zero chance that listed 15 starts the game.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 22, 2026, 04:58:17 PMQuote from: David McKeown on May 22, 2026, 04:47:32 PMGenuine question but with the current format are you better losing or winning this round?
I know the obvious answer is winning as it gives you two shots at making the quarterfinal but my concern is this.
If you win and we assume everyone at this stage is trying to win then you have the best teams in round 2A so it's a hard match potentially away.
Lose that you are playing the following week against a team coming off a win. You also have to play the following week again.
Alternatively if you lose the first round you have the jeopardy of straight knock out immediately but theoretically against an easier team and then you have some momentum into a preliminary quarterfinal against a team coming off a defeat the weekend before.
I can see advantages to both approaches. I think the teams playing round 1 a bit later have obviously more knowledge who is in which pot for round 2 and they may be a factor.
Lose and you're potentially facing Donegal/Kerry in a do or die game. I know what I'd rather!
True but win or lose you could find yourself facing them in successive matches having to pick yourself up after losing to one of them
My point is I'm not sure a win is as beneficial as it might be.
You could end up with 7 of the top 8 or so teams in Round 2A. So your win could be an away trip to say Kerry. Which if you lose you could have a 6 day turn around to play Donegal.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 22, 2026, 04:47:32 PMGenuine question but with the current format are you better losing or winning this round?
I know the obvious answer is winning as it gives you two shots at making the quarterfinal but my concern is this.
If you win and we assume everyone at this stage is trying to win then you have the best teams in round 2A so it's a hard match potentially away.
Lose that you are playing the following week against a team coming off a win. You also have to play the following week again.
Alternatively if you lose the first round you have the jeopardy of straight knock out immediately but theoretically against an easier team and then you have some momentum into a preliminary quarterfinal against a team coming off a defeat the weekend before.
I can see advantages to both approaches. I think the teams playing round 1 a bit later have obviously more knowledge who is in which pot for round 2 and they may be a factor.
Same format was used in Derry last year, Newbridge lost their first game to Dungiven and went on to win it. Dungivens reward for beating the current champions was to play recent All Ireland champions Glen in round 2A and ended up not making the Quarter final if I remember correctly.
Murphy, Langan, McGee and Gallen starting for Donegal. Paudie Clifford and Seanie O'Shea in for Kerry.
McColgan out for Donegal after doing a good job on Clifford in the league final. Shane O'Donnell out too - hopefully not injury as we've little on the bench.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 02:39:18 PMMurphy, Langan, McGee and Gallen starting for Donegal. Paudie Clifford and Seanie O'Shea in for Kerry.
McColgan out for Donegal after doing a good job on Clifford in the league final. Shane O'Donnell out too - hopefully not injury as we've little on the bench.
This match about to start while your Minors are 40 minutes into their Ulster semi-final. Who comes up with that schedule and do they care at all?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 23, 2026, 03:01:51 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 02:39:18 PMMurphy, Langan, McGee and Gallen starting for Donegal. Paudie Clifford and Seanie O'Shea in for Kerry.
McColgan out for Donegal after doing a good job on Clifford in the league final. Shane O'Donnell out too - hopefully not injury as we've little on the bench.
This match about to start while your Minors are 40 minutes into their Ulster semi-final. Who comes up with that schedule and do they care at all?
No clue. Madness.
We can't get our hands on the ball at all. And with a strong breeze. Looking ominous.
Clifford's arm is raised and McGonagle takes a dive.
Plenty of bite here. 2 pointers keeping Donegal ahead, enjoyable stuff
Embarrassing dive. Cheat
Teams acting the big men and then hitting the deck isn't a great look
Kerry 0-8 Donegal 1-10 30 mins played.
Funny how people refuse to call Clifford out but quite happy to do it the other way.
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 03:33:58 PMFunny how people refuse to call Clifford out but quite happy to do it the other way.
Call him out for what? Do you expect him to just take it all game?
What happened McHugh??
Half time Kerry 0-9 Donegal 1-11. David Clifford lucky not to get a 2nd yellow before the break.
Proper championship game!!
Is David Clifford allowed to do what he wants arguably 2 yellow card offences there.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 23, 2026, 03:38:45 PMHalf time Kerry 0-9 Donegal 1-11. David Clifford lucky not to get a 2nd yellow before the break.
Did he get a first?
Has Clifford been booked already?
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 03:36:04 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 03:30:42 PMEmbarrassing dive. Cheat
Wise up FFS.
It was pretty bad J70, come on.
This is a shambles in terms of stewarding and neither management team making a particular effort to get their players separated and off the field.
Dunno what actually happened, but it was 100% completely Paudie's fault.
Donegal would sicken ya! Shame McGuinness didn't get a box lol
Embarrassing from donegal. Done same after ulster final last year.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 03:37:43 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 03:33:58 PMFunny how people refuse to call Clifford out but quite happy to do it the other way.
Call him out for what? Do you expect him to just take it all game?
Clifford has instigated the vast majority of the niggle in the game. Same after the hooter too.
One of the managers should have done what Mickey Harte did in Ballybofey years ago and hold the team back on the field at the half.
Clifford couldn't walk off without throwing a dig but blame Jimbo anyway
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 03:38:10 PMWhat happened McHugh??
Talk of maybe Kerry backroom involved. Once management / subs get involved it gets out of control.
Donegal playing like a team that aren't that fazed about facing the breeze in the 2nd.
With all the digs flying about who knows what way the 2nd half will go
Commentators refusing to discuss Clifford's elbow to the head as the replay plays is a good one
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 03:41:58 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 03:38:10 PMWhat happened McHugh??
Talk of maybe Kerry backroom involved. Once management / subs get involved it gets out of control.
Looked to be Kerry sub/panel member. Possibly O'Connor. Anyone who things Kerry aren't responsible for that are incredibly naive.
Hurson showing himself up to be a weak ref once more, David Clifford is one lucky boy to avoid red.
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 03:41:00 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 03:37:43 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 03:33:58 PMFunny how people refuse to call Clifford out but quite happy to do it the other way.
Call him out for what? Do you expect him to just take it all game?
Clifford has instigated the vast majority of the niggle in the game. Same after the hooter too.
just watched it back. Clifford started it.
commentators and analysts need to have a pair of balls.
there are only six of them there today
Ryan McHugh with head bust open will someone get sent off?
Blah blah blah McGuinness is a disgrace. Typical Donegal etc.
Kerry were every bit a part of that.
McGuinness backs his players to the hilt only begrudgers don't like the man
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 03:46:02 PMBlah blah blah McGuinness is a disgrace. Typical Donegal etc.
Kerry were every bit a part of that.
Soupy Campbell brutal.
Hopefully officials have balls and send plenty of men off at HT. Clifford most protected player in the country.
I think Jim saw exactly what happened to McHugh.
Quote from: greatpoint on May 23, 2026, 03:43:07 PMCommentators refusing to discuss Clifford's elbow to the head as the replay plays is a good one
Are they actually not going to show the replay at half time? What in under God is going on?
McBrearty mentioned it other than that no discussion whatsoever.
Quote from: Main Street on May 23, 2026, 03:49:19 PMI think Jim saw exactly what happened to McHugh.
Agree, how can Kerryman not be redcarded for what had to be a strike.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 03:45:57 PMRyan McHugh with head bust open will someone get sent off?
If they saw it, Diarmuid O'Connor is in bother.
Make that Burns.
Hutson a joke he should have dealt with previous incident with Clifford, coldrick saw nothing either... Paudi Clifford throwing his weight around trying to get a reaction and kerry 9 seems to have burst mchugh open, Referees and linesmen afraid to dish any cards out to Kerry. Can't wait to see what Hurson does before 2nd half starts
Quote from: joemamas on May 23, 2026, 03:50:27 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 23, 2026, 03:49:19 PMI think Jim saw exactly what happened to McHugh.
Agree, how can Kerryman not be redcarded for what had to be a strike.
Because it has to have been seen by an official.
There was a hell of a lot going on near enough the whole length of the pitch ffs.
Quote from: joemamas on May 23, 2026, 03:45:02 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 03:41:00 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 03:37:43 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 03:33:58 PMFunny how people refuse to call Clifford out but quite happy to do it the other way.
Call him out for what? Do you expect him to just take it all game?
Clifford has instigated the vast majority of the niggle in the game. Same after the hooter too.
just watched it back. Clifford started it.
commentators and analysts need to have a pair of balls.
there are only six of them there today
Afraid to call out what they see and a poor ref afraid to show red to Clifford red in Killarney.
Clifford deserved a yellow at best, calm down ladies.
McHugh sprinted after a kerry man, got involved then went down. Shocker.
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 03:51:52 PMQuote from: joemamas on May 23, 2026, 03:50:27 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 23, 2026, 03:49:19 PMI think Jim saw exactly what happened to McHugh.
Agree, how can Kerryman not be redcarded for what had to be a strike.
Because it has to have been seen by an official.
There was a hell of a lot going on near enough the whole length of the pitch ffs.
There was a linesman looking straight it from 1m distance
Quote from: bennydorano on May 23, 2026, 03:53:22 PMClifford deserved a yellow at best, calm down ladies.
Mental the chat in here.
Burns on McHugh, look you sprint 20m to get involved then you roll the dice , no?
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 03:54:19 PMMcHugh sprinted after a kerry man, got involved then went down. Shocker.
Got an uppercut from Burns and a busted eye. The rest was handbags. Burns the only tr**p there.
f**k all in it but to be safe throw both teams out of the championship :D.
2 Cliffords been anonymous, Geaney, O'Brien and O'Se been super for Kerry, Lanagan and Gallen with some super scores for Donegal.
Plenty going on, could be a few cards before second half starts.
Ger Brennan got sent off for a lot less than what McGuinness was at.
A lot of what happened was handbags. The McHugh one was pure thuggery and can see why McGuinness was upset. Haven't seen that type of injury in years, not a great advert for the game.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 03:54:19 PMMcHugh sprinted after a kerry man, got involved then went down. Shocker.
Yeah while he was at it he took out a razor blade and sliced his own eyebrow open.
You're some eejit.
Quote from: Sheedy on May 23, 2026, 03:57:06 PMPlenty going on, could be a few cards before second half starts.
Ger Brennan got sent off for a lot less than what McGuinness was at.
Did he lay hands on anyone? Genuine question.
If Burns doesn't get carded he'll get a ban surely?
This 'row' is a prime example of why Burns should set up an Independent Review Committee.
Then deal with stuff like this every Monday. Deal with everything the referees etc. can't deal with.
It would end this sort of waffle.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 23, 2026, 03:53:22 PMClifford deserved a yellow at best, calm down ladies.
He had a earlier strike also which I assumed he was on a yellow already. He really should be off the field and Kerry down to 14 men if the rules was applied correctly.
Whos the panel? Far too many "just retired" players with zero personality and boring voices commenting on the TeeVee
Nothing to see here, just the poster boy of the GAA getting special protection.
Good man Hurson spoil a good game. p***k
Hurson at the start of the 2nd half shows a red card to Burns. Ryan McHugh off with cut on his head done by Burns.
Burns was always a narky type.
Why is Hurson talking to the 2 managers now?
Should he not have done that at half-time?
Ok, let's have some football now.
Spoil the game by sending off a boy for striking...
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 04:03:36 PMGood man Hurson spoil a good game. p***k
Yeah just ignore the rules Sean.
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 23, 2026, 04:04:04 PMBurns was always a narky type.
Doesn't belong anywhere near a championship 15. O'Connor taking him back was a huge surprise.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:04:29 PMSpoil the game by sending off a boy for striking...
Thought players could get away with striking now? Or does it have to be a closed fist maybe? Deserved red
Why's the story with the 3 up. Do Jerry only need to leave 2 up or still 3?
No7 for kerry should learn how to punch it over the bar
Amazing Kerry were the only participants in that skirmish
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 04:03:36 PMGood man Hurson spoil a good game. p***k
Only one showing himself to be a p***k here is you. Burns punches a man 5 yards from the linesman and Hurson has no choice but to send him off.
I know. It was in reference to another post saying Hurson had spoiled the game... obviously he got what he deserved.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:07:03 PMI know. It was in reference to another post saying Hurson had spoiled the game... obviously he got what he deserved.
Takes 2 to tango. Game ruined now.
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 23, 2026, 04:06:05 PMWhy's the story with the 3 up. Do Jerry only need to leave 2 up or still 3?
3
Rule changed a while back tonto
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 04:06:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 04:03:36 PMGood man Hurson spoil a good game. p***k
Only one showing himself to be a p***k here is you. Burns punches a man 5 yards from the linesman and Hurson has no choice but to send him off.
And could or should be 13 Kerry men right now.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 04:03:36 PMGood man Hurson spoil a good game. p***k
Can't make any sense out of your post. How is Hurson a p***k for what went on?
Kerry will win with that wind.
McGuinness cautious tactics will hold back Donegal.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 04:03:36 PMGood man Hurson spoil a good game. p***k
Would be the first **** to yap if it happened to an Armagh man.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 04:08:16 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 23, 2026, 04:06:05 PMWhy's the story with the 3 up. Do Jerry only need to leave 2 up or still 3?
3
Rule changed a while back tonto
Cheers mate. I couldn't remember
Could be another trimming for Kerry
Quote from: Sheedy on May 23, 2026, 04:06:40 PMAmazing Kerry were the only participants in that skirmish
Thinking that myself
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:07:03 PMI know. It was in reference to another post saying Hurson had spoiled the game... obviously he got what he deserved.
In the maelstrom of replies your post got isolated and targeted. Discussion board version of a melee.
Donegal seven points ahead against a 14 man injury hit Kerry they need to be wise and close this game off now.
Don't get the hate for Hurson here, the only person that could see throwing a big was Burns who rightly got the road.
I partly wanted it not to be seen as it had markings of a classic second half but was a bad act.
Donegal playacting is something to behold!
Quote from: Abble on May 23, 2026, 04:18:48 PMDonegal playacting is something to behold!
The keeper was poor there
Donegal goalkeeper and #11 with equally embarrassing dives.
Kerry 0-11 Donegal 1-14 with 20 minutes left.
This game is a mess.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:30:29 PMThis game is a mess.
Yeah disappointing but Burns fucked it up!
11 mins left Kerry 0-11 Donegal 1-18
The manner of this win for Donegal could be the worst thing for them. Kerry not take two hammerings in a row well. Clifford's not be as anonymous again you would think.
Don't see why you would bring McHugh back on here given what happened earlier.
Last time Kerry lost three times to the same team in one year? Must be a while since they scored a mere 0-11 in championship football in Killarney in 60 minutes.
Kerry down a plethora of players. Donegal come with goading off the ball verbals. But when the game was on in the first half kerry were the superior attacking team. This is the best thing to happen to the kingdom. Conor o donnell should have been sent off for kneeing Dylan Casey.
Donegal are giving a masterclass in total control, playing out the game.
Yeah thought the same on mchugh. Let's say Derry beat Armagh (though don't think it will happen) it could be Armagh Kerry next. Kerry rally dropped heads here.
What burns did you can't be doing. I would say you're unlikely to see him play for Kerry again.
How f**king stupid is Burns though? You don't get away with that shit anymore someone has always seen it.
The game was shaping up for a classic it's really annoying that it got ruined by stupidity.
FYI blaming Hurson is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
;D
Is there a sniper in the crowd...
Quote from: screenexile on May 23, 2026, 04:38:53 PMHow f**king stupid is Burns though? You don't get away with that shit anymore someone has always seen it.
The game was shaping up for a classic it's really annoying that it got ruined by stupidity.
FYI blaming Hurson is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
Sponsored by the Armagh house wine
Embarrassing effort from Kerry 2nd half.
Embarrassing theatrics from Donegal.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 04:43:24 PMEmbarrassing effort from Kerry 2nd half.
Embarrassing theatrics from Donegal.
Yup. Brutal
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:41:41 PM;D
Is there a sniper in the crowd...
Can't believe commentary say nothing.
McHugh was hardly touched there by O'connor and straight to deck.
Quote from: screenexile on May 23, 2026, 04:38:53 PMHow f**king stupid is Burns though? You don't get away with that shit anymore someone has always seen it.
The game was shaping up for a classic it's really annoying that it got ruined by stupidity.
FYI blaming Hurson is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
Never seen a red card have such an impact on a game before.
Brain dead move by Burns.
Whatever strength of Kerry their lack of response will be concerning for Jacko.
This year is a big year for them
Good screen
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:38:16 PMYeah thought the same on mchugh. Let's say Derry beat Armagh (though don't think it will happen) it could be Armagh Kerry next. Kerry rally dropped heads here.
What burns did you can't be doing. I would say you're unlikely to see him play for Kerry again.
It can also be Armagh v Donegal in the winners route, equally unappealing for us. AI winners this year might need the rub of the green.
Result Kerry 0-16 Donegal 2-20.
Facing Donegal with a backdoor worst case scenario is equally as unappealing as a do or die game potentially away to Kerry?
Be surprised if many shared that sentiment.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 23, 2026, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:38:16 PMYeah thought the same on mchugh. Let's say Derry beat Armagh (though don't think it will happen) it could be Armagh Kerry next. Kerry rally dropped heads here.
What burns did you can't be doing. I would say you're unlikely to see him play for Kerry again.
It can also be Armagh v Donegal in the winners route, equally unappealing for us. AI winners this year might need the rub of the green.
Trust me, we don't want you lads either!😄
What happened to Donegal against Down becomes a bigger mystery now.
I like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
Being called British .... by our fellow Ulster men wasn't well received . 8)
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 04:42:52 PMQuote from: screenexile on May 23, 2026, 04:38:53 PMHow f**king stupid is Burns though? You don't get away with that shit anymore someone has always seen it.
The game was shaping up for a classic it's really annoying that it got ruined by stupidity.
FYI blaming Hurson is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
Sponsored by the Armagh house wine
Oi. Leave the rest of us out of that nonsense
That is some result for Donegal
Quote from: Abble on May 23, 2026, 04:43:55 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 04:41:41 PM;D
Is there a sniper in the crowd...
Can't believe commentary say nothing.
McHugh was hardly touched there by O'connor and straight to deck.
Somethings don't change
Quote from: naka on May 23, 2026, 04:56:11 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
Being called British .... by our fellow Ulster men wasn't well received . 8)
Just do what I do and sing rule britannia back at them.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
I don't mind them to be honest tho I'm not the biggest fan of McGuiness or Murphy
Quote from: naka on May 23, 2026, 04:56:11 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
Being called British .... by our fellow Ulster men wasn't well received . 8)
Did that investigation ever conclude or is this still a wishful hearsay from bitter Armagh fans?
Ye should be thankful to Donegal, sure without them losing to Down Armagh would still have no Ulster.
Quote from: Quarterbackk on May 23, 2026, 04:37:15 PMKerry down a plethora of players. Donegal come with goading off the ball verbals. But when the game was on in the first half kerry were the superior attacking team. This is the best thing to happen to the kingdom. Conor o donnell should have been sent off for kneeing Dylan Casey.
Superior attack and yet went in five points down at halftime. Donegal sussed out midfield and Kerry struggled from there on.
Quote from: naka on May 23, 2026, 04:56:11 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
Being called British .... by our fellow Ulster men wasn't well received . 8)
Is is worse that Free State Bastards? :P
Soupy saying Kerry folded again, lovely, his name will be marked.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 23, 2026, 05:00:56 PMSoupy saying Kerry folded again, lovely, his name will be marked.
But they did... was he wrong?
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 05:03:34 PMQuote from: bennydorano on May 23, 2026, 05:00:56 PMSoupy saying Kerry folded again, lovely, his name will be marked.
But they did... was he wrong?
Did I say he was wrong
Listened to it on the kerry radio, O'Donovan didnt miss the lack of effort from Kerry in the 2nd half with 14 men. Seem to think McGuiness gonna be in trouble, saying he done the same as Brennan of Dublin.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 23, 2026, 04:56:26 PMThat is some result for Donegal
I'm a negative, pessimistic bastard, so for me it's just one hurdle down, but I would not want to meet them again down the line when they have all their men back, especially as the sending off had such an impact on the game.
That said, we managed the game brilliantly, and worked our scores really well today, unlike the last day against Down, when we couldn't hit a barn door.
Just hoping to avoid Armagh next day out!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 05:05:22 PMListened to it on the kerry radio, O'Donovan didnt miss the lack of effort from Kerry in the 2nd half with 14 men. Seem to think McGuiness gonna be in trouble, saying he done the same as Brennan of Dublin.
He appeared put hands on Diarmuid O'Connor.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 05:05:22 PMListened to it on the kerry radio, O'Donovan didnt miss the lack of effort from Kerry in the 2nd half with 14 men. Seem to think McGuiness gonna be in trouble, saying he done the same as Brennan of Dublin.
Didn't see much on tv so I wouldn't be so sure
Donegal would been favourites for that game, when u seen the 2 teams were named Thursday nite.
Possibly something with Mac Gearaillt as well but might have just been shouting and gesticulating.
Quote from: greatpoint on May 23, 2026, 04:59:16 PMQuote from: naka on May 23, 2026, 04:56:11 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 23, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI like both Armagh and Donegal.
But jeez you Armagh lads have some bitterness towards Donegal.
Being called British .... by our fellow Ulster men wasn't well received . 8)
Did that investigation ever conclude or is this still a wishful hearsay from bitter Armagh fans?
Ye should be thankful to Donegal, sure without them losing to Down Armagh would still have no Ulster.
Kerry lucky Down are in the Tailteann
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 23, 2026, 04:53:27 PMWhat happened to Donegal against Down becomes a bigger mystery now.
Down went at them, got into the lead. Donegal can't bore the pants off you between the 45 and 65 when they are behind.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 05:14:59 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 23, 2026, 04:53:27 PMWhat happened to Donegal against Down becomes a bigger mystery now.
Down went at them, got into the lead. Donegal can't bore the pants off you between the 45 and 65 when they are behind.
You would love if your Derry was going down to Killarney scoring 2-20 and boring the pants off you.
There was absolutely nothing boring about Donegal today when the game was there to be won ffs.
It was over at half time and they saw it out professionally, exactly as they should have.
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 05:26:19 PMThere was absolutely nothing boring about Donegal today when the game was there to be won ffs.
It was over at half time and they saw it out professionally, exactly as they should have.
Donegal boring under Jim McGuinness is one of the biggest myths in this sport.
Didn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
Clifford may be in trouble yet. If it's not in the ref's report the video could do him.
How can Brendan Cawley not know the rules ?
Cork man stopped the Meath man from kicking after the mark.
Ref moves the ball 50m forward
Or maybe I don't know the rules
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2026, 03:59:12 PMThis 'row' is a prime example of why Burns should set up an Independent Review Committee.
Then deal with stuff like this every Monday. Deal with everything the referees etc. can't deal with.
It would end this sort of waffle.
You know there is one but the rules are terribly opaque and hard to enforce resulting in spectacular inconsistency. Connaire Mackin was banned by it after Derry in 24. That was the last one I was involved in. Not sure how many there have been since.
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 05:42:00 PMClifford may be in trouble yet. If it's not in the ref's report the video could do him.
I see it being suggested that it was only worth a yellow. Surely an elbow to the head is a straight red card and nothing else?
Meath goal and a couple of two pointers from 0-9 each to Cork 0-9 Meath 1-14
Half time Cork 0-11 Meath 1-16.
Cork look like will rue a couple of missed goal chances. Great vision from Morris for Meath goal.
Cork with their ability to mangle goal chances remains hard to believe.
I'll be gobsmacked if they survive in Division 1 next year.
OTB interview reel with Jimmy McG post match is some viewing. Tommy is in the same boat as Bogue & Kevin Casdidy now
Quote from: statto on May 23, 2026, 06:05:00 PMCork look like will rue a couple of missed goal chances. Great vision from Morris for Meath goal.
He has brilliant vision off either foot. Morris could be a play maker at 11 but best suited inside.
Just listened to mcguniness interviewed by off the ball, jez he is a hard man to like.
Your man only asks him a question and he's acting a bollix back.
Quote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 23, 2026, 06:14:27 PMOTB interview reel with Jimmy McG post match is some viewing. Tommy is in the same boat as Bogue & Kevin Casdidy now
I'd say Jimmy knows he has a ban in his future.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:15:54 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
Yeah it's on the players how they act.
However if Hurson had yellow-carded Clifford for either of his challenges,I think there's a good chance there is no messiness between the teams and the second half is 15v15
Quote from: greatpoint on May 23, 2026, 05:54:48 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 05:42:00 PMClifford may be in trouble yet. If it's not in the ref's report the video could do him.
I see it being suggested that it was only worth a yellow. Surely an elbow to the head is a straight red card and nothing else?
It was a raised forearm/elbow. Arguable (but in theory irrelevant) which bit be actually hit him with. It also wasn't really a strike, more so it was raised, quite deliberately by the looks of things, when when trying to give McGonagle a manly shunt.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 23, 2026, 06:18:29 PMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:15:54 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
Yeah it's on the players how they act.
However if Hurson had yellow-carded Clifford for either of his challenges,I think there's a good chance there is no messiness between the teams and the second half is 15v15
How do you know he saw it?
Quote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
Donegal had countered the Kerry kick outs after about twenty five minutes. Were getting in behind the press and controlled the game. Kerry didn't score for the last fifteen minutes hardly a team bossing things.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 23, 2026, 06:18:29 PMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:15:54 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
Yeah it's on the players how they act.
However if Hurson had yellow-carded Clifford for either of his challenges,I think there's a good chance there is no messiness between the teams and the second half is 15v15
Same logic did Hurson make Clifford do it? if David didn't do what he did then Burns may not have done what he did, the players lost their discipline that is on them.
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 06:22:06 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 23, 2026, 06:18:29 PMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:15:54 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
Yeah it's on the players how they act.
However if Hurson had yellow-carded Clifford for either of his challenges,I think there's a good chance there is no messiness between the teams and the second half is 15v15
How do you know he saw it?
I don't know that he saw either challenge. Obviously he can only give cards based on what he saw or what the other officials tell him.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:24:37 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 23, 2026, 06:18:29 PMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:15:54 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
Yeah it's on the players how they act.
However if Hurson had yellow-carded Clifford for either of his challenges,I think there's a good chance there is no messiness between the teams and the second half is 15v15
Same logic did Hurson make Clifford do it? if David didn't do what he did then Burns may not have done what he did, the players lost their discipline that is on them.
That's exactly what I said
QuoteYeah it's on the players how they act.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on May 23, 2026, 06:15:54 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
What, Hurson made burns strike and got Kerry to settle old scores, what nonsense. Players are in control of their own discipline, not the refs. If teams want to play football there will rarely be a booking. It is not the refs who determine this but players and management.
I'm referring before Burns incident, from the throw in numerous Kerry players were in engaging in off the ball stuff and crying to the linesman.
Quote from: Killala on May 23, 2026, 06:24:00 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
Donegal had countered the Kerry kick outs after about twenty five minutes. Were getting in behind the press and controlled the game. Kerry didn't score for the last fifteen minutes hardly a team bossing things.
Kerry eased off the press. They still controlled possession for most of first half.
Cork 0-19 Meath 1-17. Game very much on.
A few two pointers 0-23 to 1-18 now
Fair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Sherlock a weapon for two pointers.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 23, 2026, 06:37:04 PMCork 0-19 Meath 1-17. Game very much on.
A fee two pointers 0-23 to 1-17 now
Super 10 mins from Cork
Cork must have had a swig at half time of whatever Armagh had at the end of the Ulster final, second half like a rocket from Cork.
Good game although Meath will have more in them.
Why does this ground only have half a stand?
Quote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 06:29:12 PMQuote from: Killala on May 23, 2026, 06:24:00 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
Donegal had countered the Kerry kick outs after about twenty five minutes. Were getting in behind the press and controlled the game. Kerry didn't score for the last fifteen minutes hardly a team bossing things.
Kerry eased off the press. They still controlled possession for most of first half.
Possession doesn't equal scoring success. You have to make it count on the scoreboard to matter.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:44:14 PMWhy does this ground only have half a stand?
Pitch must have shifted at some stage?
Place must have the highest ball catcher , but only behind 1 goal
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Ah FFS ref
Cawley is a shocking referee. We seen it throughout the league.
It's a red...
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
Sniper here too.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:44:14 PMWhy does this ground only have half a stand?
"At Páirc Uí Rinn the main seated stand only covers about half the length of the pitch because the ground was never originally designed as a large modern all-seater stadium.
It started life as "Flower Lodge," a smaller football ground in the 1950s before being converted into a GAA venue later on. Over time, Cork GAA upgraded it in stages rather than rebuilding the entire stadium at once."
Quote from: screenexile on May 23, 2026, 06:47:49 PMIt's a red...
Yer hole and follows it up with a woeful yellow to boot.
Cawley :o
Harsh
Cork lead cut to one and down to 14 men.
Cork can feel fairly aggrieved at 3 or 4 decisions in the last 5 mins.
I've seen the red given although in the context of pushing a man away it seems harsh.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:47:54 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
How'd he react?
He was perfectly civil to the GAA+ reporter in the interview I saw. Admitted the red card had a huge impact on the game and that there was no way of telling how it would have went otherwise. O'Connor said he saw nothing either.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:55:15 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:47:54 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
How'd he react?
He was perfectly civil to the GAA+ reporter in the interview I saw. Admitted the red card had a huge impact on the game and that there was no way of telling how it would have went otherwise. O'Connor said he saw nothing either.
He questioned that the reporter had a motive. He simply brought up ger brennan and mcguinness had a hissy fit.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
5times a dickhead
Level game Cork 0-26 Meath 1-23 60 mins played.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Just seen it there. He's a horrible wee twat
Meath are disappointing here. Still suspect they might sneak this.
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:56:44 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:55:15 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:47:54 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
How'd he react?
He was perfectly civil to the GAA+ reporter in the interview I saw. Admitted the red card had a huge impact on the game and that there was no way of telling how it would have went otherwise. O'Connor said he saw nothing either.
He questioned that the reporter had a motive. He simply brought up ger brennan and mcguinness had a hissy fit.
You have a link or a transcript?
Never mind, I found it. Tommy Rooney.
No issue whatsoever with it, either with Rooney's question or Jim's response.
If he banned Rooney like he did with Declan Bogue, THEN I'd have an issue with it.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 07:02:59 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:56:44 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:55:15 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:47:54 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
How'd he react?
He was perfectly civil to the GAA+ reporter in the interview I saw. Admitted the red card had a huge impact on the game and that there was no way of telling how it would have went otherwise. O'Connor said he saw nothing either.
He questioned that the reporter had a motive. He simply brought up ger brennan and mcguinness had a hissy fit.
You have a link or a transcript?
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 07:02:59 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:56:44 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:55:15 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:47:54 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
How'd he react?
He was perfectly civil to the GAA+ reporter in the interview I saw. Admitted the red card had a huge impact on the game and that there was no way of telling how it would have went otherwise. O'Connor said he saw nothing either.
He questioned that the reporter had a motive. He simply brought up ger brennan and mcguinness had a hissy fit.
You have a link or a transcript?
https://x.com/i/status/2058224876700270727
Cork lead by 2 points with 2 minutes to play.
Result Cork 0-30 Meath 1-24.
Great second half from Cork!
Great game. Fair play to Cork. Some performance from Sheridan
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 07:08:28 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2058224876700270727
Sure burn him at the stake for it.
Armagh18 calling someone a horrible twat. Lol.
Deserved win for Cork. Meath never looked like they were playing with an extra man even when new rules amplify the advantage. Great game overall.
They showed a lot of character there which has been lacking in cork football for a long time. Great second half. Meath very disappointing. Would say that not many teams left would fear them on that display.
Well done Cork. Doesn't reflect well on Kerry with their man down performance.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 23, 2026, 07:14:54 PMGreat game. Fair play to Cork. Some performance from Sheridan
Yup. The miss from the long free on about 65 mins could have been very costly though. Tried one against Kerry as well.
Meath were a bit panicky and the last two point effort from Caulfield (I think) could have been worked a bit better.
Great evenings entertainment with both games. The new format working so far.
Great second half from Cork with 14. Meath are a bit overhyped. Cork should have won the league final too.
Suspect Kildare are gonna be in for a bit of a trimming here.
Real game of two halves.
1st half Cork 0-11 Meath 1-16
2nd half Cork 0-19 Meath 0-8
Shocking second half. Not going to say a whole lot now but we don't seem to be able to deal with it when teams get in our faces.
We seem to have lost all composure when the game was on the line.
Kickouts were a big problem all day for us at both ends of the field.
Quote from: thejuice on May 23, 2026, 07:31:52 PMShocking second half. Not going to say a whole lot now but we don't seem to be able to deal with it when teams get in our faces.
We seem to have lost all composure when the game was on the line.
Kickouts were a big problem all day for us at both ends of the field.
seemed to be outmuscled and out coached in the second half.
awful choices for last two kick attempts
Bernard Flynn tweets some nonsense.
Quote from: Killala on May 23, 2026, 06:45:37 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 06:29:12 PMQuote from: Killala on May 23, 2026, 06:24:00 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 05:39:29 PMDidn't see that second half in Donegal. Thought Kerry controlled first half and dominated kick out would set them up for second half. Red card changed the game. If Hurson had took control of game at the start would none of that nonsense before HT. Kerry lads seemed intent in settling old scores and how did David Clifford escape a yellow card.
Donegal had countered the Kerry kick outs after about twenty five minutes. Were getting in behind the press and controlled the game. Kerry didn't score for the last fifteen minutes hardly a team bossing things.
Kerry eased off the press. They still controlled possession for most of first half.
Possession doesn't equal scoring success. You have to make it count on the scoreboard to matter.
I know but were playing against a strong wind.
I say this be Galways last real chance at Sam, i think they be down Conroy, Comer and Walsh nxt yr.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 07:53:04 PMI say this be Galways last real chance at Sam, i think they be down Conroy, Comer and Walsh nxt yr.
Their best chance would be moving PJ along and getting McGuinness in.
I'm not a Jimmy fan at all, but I've had 5 years or so now of wondering why Galway always seem overtrained and undercoached.
Quote from: Main Street on May 23, 2026, 06:58:28 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
5times a dickhead
Is that another one of Lionel Richie's?
Quote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:56:44 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:55:15 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:47:54 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
Only dickhead was how he reacted to the reporter.
How'd he react?
He was perfectly civil to the GAA+ reporter in the interview I saw. Admitted the red card had a huge impact on the game and that there was no way of telling how it would have went otherwise. O'Connor said he saw nothing either.
He questioned that the reporter had a motive. He simply brought up ger brennan and mcguinness had a hissy fit.
Exactly how I saw it too - seen the incident during half time and I said straight away that's a ban for what he's done there.
Crying that a reporter is trying to get him banned, was a fair enough question from Tommy
He is not a fan of journalists.
Kildare competitive but Galway has the wind that Colm Cooper thinks is a 8 point wind. Half time Galway 2-8 Kildare 0-12
Quote from: weareros on May 23, 2026, 07:16:18 PMDeserved win for Cork. Meath never looked like they were playing with an extra man even when new rules amplify the advantage. Great game overall.
[/quote Some difference between how Donegal and Meath used the extra man. Very harsh red. Meath to lose that game from 8 up at half time and extra man last 20 mins will need some serious soul searching. After a fantastic year last year and promotion to division 1 their championship hasn't got up and running at all.
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 21, 2026, 05:37:27 PMCategory III Infractions
"5.17 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with arm, elbow, hand or knee with minimal force."
You'll be expecting a suspension for David Clifford then?
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Never seen as many players lying down these days playing trying to kill time, get men booked/send off. Watching to much soccer. Makes me wonder how they get on against the old Meath team of the late '80s with their extreme physicality!
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 08:04:15 PMHe is not a fan of journalists.
I'm no fan of Jimmy's in fact I kind of despise him but he's dead right to call out Tommy Rooney on his bullshit there. Rooney's trying to drum up a bit of a headline for himself by making a statement and disguising it as a question. Fairly low and scummy thing to do. Would he say the same to a player after a match if he got the chance? "Michael, pat fox got a 8 week ban earlier in the season for chinning a lad, are you worried you'll get the same ban after boxing Ryan McHugh?"
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 23, 2026, 08:18:50 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on April 21, 2026, 05:37:27 PMCategory III Infractions
"5.17 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with arm, elbow, hand or knee with minimal force."
You'll be expecting a suspension for David Clifford then?
(https://i.ibb.co/M5Ndzvzv/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YTjg5C5C)
A still pic? After all these years, surely not. That's a red card
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 23, 2026, 08:18:50 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on April 21, 2026, 05:37:27 PMCategory III Infractions
"5.17 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with arm, elbow, hand or knee with minimal force."
You'll be expecting a suspension for David Clifford then?
(https://i.ibb.co/M5Ndzvzv/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YTjg5C5C)
Definitely didn't touch McGonagle according to some of the mouths around here. ::)
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2026, 08:19:46 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 08:04:15 PMHe is not a fan of journalists.
I'm no fan of Jimmy's in fact I kind of despise him but he's dead right to call out Tommy Rooney on his bullshit there. Rooney's trying to drum up a bit of a headline for himself by making a statement and disguising it as a question. Fairly low and scummy thing to do. Would he say the same to a player after a match if he got the chance? "Michael, pat fox got a 8 week ban earlier in the season for chinning a lad, are you worried you'll get the same ban after boxing Ryan McHugh?"
It was a fair question
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 23, 2026, 08:29:51 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 23, 2026, 08:19:46 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2026, 08:04:15 PMHe is not a fan of journalists.
I'm no fan of Jimmy's in fact I kind of despise him but he's dead right to call out Tommy Rooney on his bullshit there. Rooney's trying to drum up a bit of a headline for himself by making a statement and disguising it as a question. Fairly low and scummy thing to do. Would he say the same to a player after a match if he got the chance? "Michael, pat fox got a 8 week ban earlier in the season for chinning a lad, are you worried you'll get the same ban after boxing Ryan McHugh?"
It was a fair question
Of course it was, Jimmy was shitting it as he knew he was in the wrong. Don't see too many hard / awkward questions asked these days, fair play to Tommy.
He's not asking that out of nowhere... he should have said Jim the CCCC don't take much notice of journalists questions but the TV pictures show plenty of what happened so what's your take on it!
Jesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
Journalists are supposed to ask questions like that. He'd be a shit journalist if he didn't.
53 minutes played Galway 3-13 Kildare 0-14
11 points in it now. Galway well on top now
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2026, 08:50:17 PM11 points in it now. Galway well on top now
13 now. Rob Finnerty with 1-9 score.
Quote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
All too easy for Galway 2nd half FT Galway 3-21 Kildare 0-17.
What did we expect McGuinness was going to say? .... Aye, you're right. I'm fecked here . Throw the book at me. Definitely a long ban coming my way, and I'll deserve it?
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 09:08:23 PMWhat did we expect McGuinness was going to say? .... Aye, you're right. I'm fecked here . Throw the book at me. Definitely a long ban coming my way, and I'll deserve it?
A polite politician style response perhaps? This brings more attention to it.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Brennan incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
Finnerty scored 1-9
No issue Jim getting involved? About time u read the rule book Armagh18! Brennans barred for similar on field conduction.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMSimilar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
I don't think even the most vitriolic Ulstermen who despise McGuinness reckon he breached COVID protocols.
Similar ban to Ger Brennan though? Maybe.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 09:18:46 PMNo issue Jim getting involved? About time u read the rule book Armagh18! Brennans barred for similar on field conduction.
I didn't think Jimmys intervention was at the same level.
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2026, 09:14:32 PMFinnerty scored 1-9
Some baller, up there as one of the top forwards in Ireland atm
Quote from: tyroneStatto on May 23, 2026, 08:40:14 PMJournalists are supposed to ask questions like that. He'd be a shit journalist if he didn't.
I'm be never seen a player or manager get asked "dya think the CCC will give you a lengthy ban?" after a match. If rooney cornered David Clifford after the match and said "Michael Burns got a red card for his punch, are you worried the CCC will give you an ban for the elbow to the head in the first half?" I don't think any one of you would say "ah Rooneys just doing his job". It was hatchet journalism from Rooney.
A fair question is "have you any comments about the incident at half-time?"/"you were involved in with the scenes at half-time, what happened there". A dickhead question is "do you think the CCC will give you a ban the same as Ger Brennan". Jim can't possibly know what way the CCC will view it so it's an unanswerable question designed only to imply that the CCC should ban Jim.
Mike Quirke in the studio. I'm sure he'll be nuanced as always.
Quote from: screenexile on May 23, 2026, 09:22:18 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 09:18:46 PMNo issue Jim getting involved? About time u read the rule book Armagh18! Brennans barred for similar on field conduction.
I didn't think Jimmys intervention was at the same level.
Well that clown from Galway made a meal of it, neither were major tbh.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 09:18:46 PMNo issue Jim getting involved? About time u read the rule book Armagh18! Brennans barred for similar on field conduction.
Yeah which was a joke of a ban
Quote from: joemamas on May 23, 2026, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: thejuice on May 23, 2026, 07:31:52 PMShocking second half. Not going to say a whole lot now but we don't seem to be able to deal with it when teams get in our faces.
We seem to have lost all composure when the game was on the line.
Kickouts were a big problem all day for us at both ends of the field.
seemed to be outmuscled and out coached in the second half.
awful choices for last two kick attempts
Yeah. I hear pundits saying we're a big strong team but it doesn't look like it. Certainly not today and not against Westmeath either.
We weren't composed at all in the closing stages. No control or cohesion to our attack, totally different to the first half. Jack O'Connor is well able to score that shot he took but I think we were a bit rattled at that stage.
Jack Flynn came in but didn't seem to be really on the same page as the rest of the forwards. We carried it into the small arc a few times but Cork were crowding it out.
It was an almost exact repeat of our league game against Louth only there was no Jack Flynn heroics to save us this time.
Really scratching my head at this performance today. Robbie has his work cut out to get these lads to regroup and get their heads right but doesn't bode well.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
I didn't say Jim was right. I said that he saw McHugh come out of a spat with blood pouring out of his face and he saw O'Connor also emerge from the same spat, so in the immediate aftermath he presumably thought O'Connor had thrown the dig.
And yes, Jim will be banned.
But if you're going to start dishing out bans to McHugh for being third man in, then Kerry and Donegal might as well withdraw from the AI as their squads will be decimated.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:44:12 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
I didn't say Jim was right. I said that he saw McHugh come out of a spat with blood pouring out of his face and he saw O'Connor also emerge from the same spat, so in the immediate aftermath he thought O'Connor had thrown the dig.
And yes, Jim will be banned.
10-4
Is there footage of McGuinness actually laying a hand on anyone? Nothing on the highlights but maybe they'll have more for the analysis.
EDIT: pushes O'Connor alright.
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 09:47:07 PMIs there footage of McGuinness actually laying a hand on anyone? Nothing on the highlights but maybe they'll have more for the analysis.
EDIT: pushes O'Connor alright.
Plus he doesn't need to physically touch anyone, can get 12 weeks for abusive language alone
Yeah he will clearly be banned.
On saturday game now, plenty footage of it going round earlier, nothing in it but Brennan got 12 wks so will McGuinness. 2nd shoulder by Clifford on the buzzer was just a free. Doesnt look great all the Donegal players running crying to the referee. Clifford did hit u man high in the first tackle but i think its only a yellow, again Donegal man with delayed action going down.
Was Brennan sent off on the day or was against Galway or was it on the intervention of the CCCC?
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 09:54:12 PMWas Brennan sent off on the day or was against Galway or was it on the intervention of the CCCC?
Sent off at the start of second half when teams came back onto field.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:49:50 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 09:47:07 PMIs there footage of McGuinness actually laying a hand on anyone? Nothing on the highlights but maybe they'll have more for the analysis.
EDIT: pushes O'Connor alright.
Plus he doesn't need to physically touch anyone, can get 12 weeks for abusive language alone
12 weeks is only for abusive language to officials I think.
Think he's looking at minimum two matches.
Quote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 09:56:26 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 09:54:12 PMWas Brennan sent off on the day or was against Galway or was it on the intervention of the CCCC?
Sent off at the start of second half when teams came back onto field.
That could be the get out for McGuinness or otherwise where do you draw the line.
Jim will get the 12 weeks because the precedent has been set with Ger Brennan. No excuses.
Silly by Mc Guinness. He's experienced enough.
Too man clowns on the line also. It said there was 45 on the pitch i.e. 15 non-players.
Is that Aaron Kernn in with Meath?
Or did my eyes deceive me? :o
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 09:57:37 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2026, 09:56:26 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 23, 2026, 09:54:12 PMWas Brennan sent off on the day or was against Galway or was it on the intervention of the CCCC?
Sent off at the start of second half when teams came back onto field.
That could be the get out for McGuinness or otherwise where do you draw the line.
Maybe Brendan Devenney can ring Fergal Logan and get him on the case. He has him on the podcast from time to time.
Whatever the potential punishment, I hope McGuinness and Donegal simply take it and don't embarrass themselves appealing the arse out of it like Brennan did.
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2026, 09:58:32 PMJim will get the 12 weeks because the precedent has been set with Ger Brennan. No excuses.
Silly by Mc Guinness. He's experienced enough.
Too man clowns on the line also. It said there was 45 on the pitch i.e. 15 non-players.
Brennan was given a red card at the time and a big ban handed out, HQ on this incident might choose to do nothing about the McGuinness incident as he wasn't booked or sent off. Shouldn't be the case but won't surprise me with the way the CCCC work.
On another note David Clifford should be getting a one match ban going by the precedent that has been set already this year.
Cork red only really a yellow, More the man was trying to push u man off, and was high with the hand off.
Quote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 09:33:25 PMMike Quirke in the studio. I'm sure he'll be nuanced as always.
I wonder did they fly him up to Dublin to defend the Kerry lads?
Lol,just watching Quirke, some Kerry long term thinking there, he's doing a number on Jimmy. Deserved mostly.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:44:12 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
I didn't say Jim was right. I said that he saw McHugh come out of a spat with blood pouring out of his face and he saw O'Connor also emerge from the same spat, so in the immediate aftermath he presumably thought O'Connor had thrown the dig.
And yes, Jim will be banned.
But if you're going to start dishing out bans to McHugh for being third man in, then Kerry and Donegal might as well withdraw from the AI as their squads will be decimated.
Fine by me 8)
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 10:09:13 PMQuote from: gallsman on May 23, 2026, 09:33:25 PMMike Quirke in the studio. I'm sure he'll be nuanced as always.
I wonder did they fly him up to Dublin to defend the Kerry lads?
He was grand tbh but he pivoted very quickly away from Clifford and Burns to talk about McGuinness.
McManus stuck his neck out a bit to highlight that the first Clifford incident with McGonagle had more to it than you'd think. McGonagle absolutely still took a dive though.
The second Clifford one was late but nothing in it.
The footage of the HT incident on the highlights ends with Paudie trotting off with Mac Gearailt towards the tunnel and a Donegal backroom team member goes past him to catch up with, possibly McCole, and looks over his shoulder at him. Presumably said something as Paudie charges after him like a bull but it transitions away before you can see if anything happened.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 10:06:47 PMCork red only really a yellow, More the man was trying to push u man off, and was high with the hand off.
I think the Meath lad gave him a wee belt to the head just as he won the ball in and when he wins it he lashes/steikes out to push the tackle off.
A yellow but can see if he gets a red as he struck out. Should get off on an appeal.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 10:06:47 PMCork red only really a yellow, More the man was trying to push u man off, and was high with the hand off.
Brendan Cawley strikes again. As bad as Daire Cregg red card.
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 10:13:31 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:44:12 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
I didn't say Jim was right. I said that he saw McHugh come out of a spat with blood pouring out of his face and he saw O'Connor also emerge from the same spat, so in the immediate aftermath he presumably thought O'Connor had thrown the dig.
And yes, Jim will be banned.
But if you're going to start dishing out bans to McHugh for being third man in, then Kerry and Donegal might as well withdraw from the AI as their squads will be decimated.
Fine by me 8)
Handy AI for Armagh.😄
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2026, 10:00:16 PMIs that Aaron Kernn in with Meath?
Or did my eyes deceive me? :o
He is coach with Meath.
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 10:13:31 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:44:12 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
I didn't say Jim was right. I said that he saw McHugh come out of a spat with blood pouring out of his face and he saw O'Connor also emerge from the same spat, so in the immediate aftermath he presumably thought O'Connor had thrown the dig.
And yes, Jim will be banned.
But if you're going to start dishing out bans to McHugh for being third man in, then Kerry and Donegal might as well withdraw from the AI as their squads will be decimated.
Fine by me 8)
I'm not chatting about dishing out bans to anyone, just pointing out that McHugh the Innocent had a part to play in the incident, which, if you're being a stickler, is covered in the rule book
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 07:57:31 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 23, 2026, 06:58:28 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 06:46:20 PMQuote from: 5times5times on May 23, 2026, 06:38:10 PMFair play to whoever asked Mcguinness the Q after the game.
100% legitimate Q and Mcguinness just a dickhead.
Same $hit after ulster final last year where of course he didn't see anything
Speaking of dickheads...
5times a dickhead
Is that another one of Lionel Richie's?
Hmm, "3 times a loser, 5times a dickhead"
Lionel could make that work.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 10:28:43 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 10:13:31 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:44:12 PMQuote from: JoG2 on May 23, 2026, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 23, 2026, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: J70 on May 23, 2026, 09:05:01 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on May 23, 2026, 08:38:23 PMJesus mcguinness came across as a childish prat when asked a simple question by Tommy.
Trying to spin it that tommy is looking him banned rather than taking responsibility for his own actions of storming the pitch and shoving opposition players instead of trying to calm it down.
In fairness to Jim, he'd literally just observed Ryan McHugh having his eyebrow split open with blood all over him and O'Connor having been one of the players involved, so it's understandable he'd react like that in the moment.
I think it was a fair question, but Rooney knew perfectly well Jim wouldn't take very kindly to it based on past form. He was never going to say something that could be used against him by the GAA.
Yeah no issue with Jim getting involved, wouldn't expect anyone to stand by and watch a man get busted. Rooney only doing his job and asking the tough questions. Similar ban to Dessie Farrel incoming surely. (Which was absolutely ridiculously harsh)
You should have a big issue with it, we all should. No member of the bench, management or backroom team should be anywhere near the pitch, that's when things get out of hand...with the GAA it's a story as old as time itself. At club matches lunatics jump the fences during such outbreaks regularly
McGuinness gets a lengthy ban on the back of Ger Brennan and I doubt we'll see a repeat of it for a while.
And J70s bit above re O'Connor, O'Connor was having a spat with another player and McHugh threw himself into the middle of it, O'Connor I doubt even seen him coming...3rd man in and all that ie contributing to a melee
I didn't say Jim was right. I said that he saw McHugh come out of a spat with blood pouring out of his face and he saw O'Connor also emerge from the same spat, so in the immediate aftermath he presumably thought O'Connor had thrown the dig.
And yes, Jim will be banned.
But if you're going to start dishing out bans to McHugh for being third man in, then Kerry and Donegal might as well withdraw from the AI as their squads will be decimated.
Fine by me 8)
I'm not chatting about dishing out bans to anyone, just pointing out that McHugh the Innocent had a part to play in the incident, which, if you're being a stickler, is covered in the rule book
Surely the CCCCCCCC wouldn't ban a man who looked like he was in Nam?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 23, 2026, 10:06:47 PMCork red only really a yellow, More the man was trying to push u man off, and was high with the hand off.
You should know better lad...
When you strik strak in this game it says you must go!!
Quote from: David McKeown on May 23, 2026, 09:12:02 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on May 23, 2026, 09:08:23 PMWhat did we expect McGuinness was going to say? .... Aye, you're right. I'm fecked here . Throw the book at me. Definitely a long ban coming my way, and I'll deserve it?
A polite politician style response perhaps? This brings more attention to it.
Indeed, it would have been easy enough to give an answer that didn't say much. Instead he drew more attention to it.
Sending off killed it as a contest but Donegal extremely effective in the way they put it away. The second goal hitting the net as Kerry fans streamed out of the ground was very amusing.
To get this in first - No fan of JMG. And I normally like Tommy Rooney.
Have to say Tommy Rooney went in playing Junior B Hurling - Looking for the I have you snookered here JMG and this will get the clicks. He got a Senior Hurling reply. Jim called it as it was - Rooney looking for to fly that kite. Looking for a sacrificial lamb to fill his podcast.
As for Jim not seeing anything - that's what all intelligent managers say. Opening your mouth about a situation will only give the Rooneys of the world more click bait.
Ironically Rooney still got his clip and the clicks.
Round 2b is going to be carnage.
Are round 2 games home and away or neutral?
Quote from: onefineday on May 24, 2026, 07:58:38 AMAre round 2 games home and away or neutral?
2a and 2b, first team drawn out is at home
When is the round 2a and round 2b?
Donegal are a team with serious discipline issues. And its eminating from their senior leadership.
A manager that thinks its acceptable to run onto the pitch and put his hands on opposition players.
A captain who thinks he can punch opposition players, and faces no consequences.
The gaa need to nip this in the bud.
Quote from: seanaglis on May 24, 2026, 08:27:51 AMDonegal are a team with serious discipline issues. And its eminating from their senior leadership.
A manager that thinks its acceptable to run onto the pitch and put his hands on opposition players.
A captain who thinks he can punch opposition players, and faces no consequences.
The gaa need to nip this in the bud.
What did Langan do? Never picked that up on TV.
As a neutral, outside of burns dig it was all a pile of handbags.
Depends on referees report, he spoke to mcguiness and joc at start of second so maybe he didnt want to issue any cards and try let it cool down. Dont think mcguiness was anything near level of ger brennan but his12 week ban was very very harsh
Quote from: square_ball on May 24, 2026, 08:30:49 AMQuote from: seanaglis on May 24, 2026, 08:27:51 AMDonegal are a team with serious discipline issues. And its eminating from their senior leadership.
A manager that thinks its acceptable to run onto the pitch and put his hands on opposition players.
A captain who thinks he can punch opposition players, and faces no consequences.
The gaa need to nip this in the bud.
What did Langan do? Never picked that up on TV.
I think this is in reference to M. Murphy punching a lad twice with a closed fist in the League Final.
Quote from: downgael2065 on May 24, 2026, 08:32:27 AMAs a neutral, outside of burns dig it was all a pile of handbags.
Depends on referees report, he spoke to mcguiness and joc at start of second so maybe he didnt want to issue any cards and try let it cool down. Dont think mcguiness was anything near level of ger brennan but his12 week ban was very very harsh
All true but not a good look. 15 other people on pitch at 'melee' time.
GAA need to clamp down on it. Too many people with access to sideline on these provincial pitches. Croke Park pitch is more secure in that - apart from that Armagh/Galway punch up at far line.
Quote from: JoG2 on May 24, 2026, 08:02:11 AMQuote from: onefineday on May 24, 2026, 07:58:38 AMAre round 2 games home and away or neutral?
2a and 2b, first team drawn out is at home
What about Rd3? First out?
Quote from: seanaglis on May 24, 2026, 08:27:51 AMDonegal are a team with serious discipline issues. And its eminating from their senior leadership.
A manager that thinks its acceptable to run onto the pitch and put his hands on opposition players.
A captain who thinks he can punch opposition players, and faces no consequences.
The gaa need to nip this in the bud.
"Serious discipline issues"??
You think McGuinness was "thinking" at that second??
He saw McHugh get split open and reacted, in what would be a very tame manner in any other context.
And while Murphy has gone over the edge with the closed-fist tackles at times over the years, it's hardly symptomatic of the whole team.
Every year we go through the same shite on this board with certain lads (not saying you, I don't know you) driving an agenda against McGuinness, Murphy, Ryan McHugh and formerly Declan Bonner.
Quote from: J70 on May 24, 2026, 10:52:53 AMQuote from: seanaglis on May 24, 2026, 08:27:51 AMDonegal are a team with serious discipline issues. And its eminating from their senior leadership.
A manager that thinks its acceptable to run onto the pitch and put his hands on opposition players.
A captain who thinks he can punch opposition players, and faces no consequences.
The gaa need to nip this in the bud.
"Serious discipline issues"??
You think McGuinness was "thinking" at that second??
He saw McHugh get split open and reacted, in what would be a very tame manner in any other context.
And while Murphy has gone over the edge with the closed-fist tackles at times over the years, it's hardly symptomatic of the whole team.
Every year we go through the same shite on this board with certain lads (not saying you, I don't know you) driving an agenda against McGuinness, Murphy, Ryan McHugh and formerly Declan Bonner.
One can only speculate as to McGuinness's thinking.
However, it is pretty clear from the interview afterwards with the OTB journalist that he doesnt think he did anything wrong.
In fact he was trying to frame it that the journalist was at fault for daring to ask a question.
Likewise, the media were at fault for highlighting Murphy's transgressions, rather than the multiple punches
When a manager behaves like this, the ill-discipline is bound to seep down to the players.
Quote from: p3427977 on May 24, 2026, 09:44:20 AMQuote from: JoG2 on May 24, 2026, 08:02:11 AMQuote from: onefineday on May 24, 2026, 07:58:38 AMAre round 2 games home and away or neutral?
2a and 2b, first team drawn out is at home
What about Rd3? First out?
All such information is on the first post on this thread.
Someone should have said 'Jimmy you're not available for interview, away out there McGee and deal with it.' There was always going to be that question asked and there should have been a better answer prepared than going on the attack. What could have been spun as Donegal being the 'victim' has now lost some level of sympathy due to Jimmys reaction to the quite appropriate questioning.
What this week will hopefully mean for us in Armagh is that the 'wounded animal' mentality that Derry might bring to the game may be better managed as Kerry did not do it yesterday and Donegal were streets ahead
You think he's out there at training telling the players to risk red cards and suspensions? Because despite what he might say when Murphy, a very high profile player, goes over the top and rightly gets publicity, McGuinness does not control what the GAA can and will do when it comes to discipline.
I'm not denying that he has instilled grit and physicality in his two stints. It was badly needed as we were way too naive and nice on the field for years, especially in Ulster.
But this idea that Donegal are somehow more indisciplined than other teams or that McGuinness gives them license to do things that could lead to red cards and suspensions is going to need data and something a little more than a manager aggressively standing his ground in press conferences.
The McGuinness thing is overshadowing (or in some cases deliberately being used to overshadow) the fact that Kerry were clearly the more undisciplined outfit there yesterday.
It started before the throw in with Morley et. al looking to rough up the Donegal FF line. They presumably went out with the mentality that they were going to lay down a marker after the boxes Murphy got away with in the league final. Donaghy's influence probably something to do with it. Clifford was at it more than I've ever seen and they were trying heavy blocks and checks all over the field. Then Burns lost the plot completely obviously.
Quote from: J70 on May 24, 2026, 11:31:41 AMYou think he's out there at training telling the players to risk red cards and suspensions? Because despite what he might say when Murphy, a very high profile player, goes over the top and rightly gets publicity, McGuinness does not control what the GAA can and will do when it comes to discipline.
I'm not denying that he has instilled grit and physicality in his two stints. It was badly needed as we were way too naive and nice on the field for years, especially in Ulster.
But this idea that Donegal are somehow more indisciplined than other teams or that McGuinness gives them license to do things that could lead to red cards and suspensions is going to need data and something a little more than a manager aggressively standing his ground in press conferences.
Murphy may get publicity, but he doesn't get punished. That's the difference.
McGuinness doesn't need to send his players out to get up to all sorts of acts. The CCCC/referees have repeatedly failed to punish their previous actions (Murphy in particular), so they know what they can get away with (in Murphy's case, clearly everything), so Donegal act accordingly.
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 24, 2026, 12:17:15 PMQuote from: J70 on May 24, 2026, 11:31:41 AMYou think he's out there at training telling the players to risk red cards and suspensions? Because despite what he might say when Murphy, a very high profile player, goes over the top and rightly gets publicity, McGuinness does not control what the GAA can and will do when it comes to discipline.
I'm not denying that he has instilled grit and physicality in his two stints. It was badly needed as we were way too naive and nice on the field for years, especially in Ulster.
But this idea that Donegal are somehow more indisciplined than other teams or that McGuinness gives them license to do things that could lead to red cards and suspensions is going to need data and something a little more than a manager aggressively standing his ground in press conferences.
Murphy may get publicity, but he doesn't get punished. That's the difference.
McGuinness doesn't need to send his players out to get up to all sorts of acts. The CCCC/referees have repeatedly failed to punish their previous actions (Murphy in particular), so they know what they can get away with (in Murphy's case, clearly everything), so Donegal act accordingly.
So we're in cahoots with the CCCC, referees and overall GAA?
There are no other high profile players who have gotten away with stuff that Murphy has?
And because Murphy has gotten off lightly at times (we'll ignore the occasions when he's been harshly sent off), then the whole Donegal squad now has license to do what the f**k they want.
All right lads, suit yourselves. Have at it. Same hysterical horseshit every year on this board.
If people are complaining about you, you're near the top of the pile. Happened Dublin for years, Tyrone for years, Meath etc. Not too much complaining about them teams now.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2026, 11:35:04 PMTo get this in first - No fan of JMG. And I normally like Tommy Rooney.
Have to say Tommy Rooney went in playing Junior B Hurling - Looking for the I have you snookered here JMG and this will get the clicks. He got a Senior Hurling reply. Jim called it as it was - Rooney looking for to fly that kite. Looking for a sacrificial lamb to fill his podcast.
As for Jim not seeing anything - that's what all intelligent managers say. Opening your mouth about a situation will only give the Rooneys of the world more click bait.
Ironically Rooney still got his clip and the clicks.
So its the journalist fault for pointing it out but mcguinness is grand. Anyone the world is in such a state when people are complaining about journalist asking direct questions
QuoteQuoteQuoteYou think he's out there at training telling the players to risk red cards and suspensions? Because despite what he might say when Murphy, a very high profile player, goes over the top and rightly gets publicity, McGuinness does not control what the GAA can and will do when it comes to discipline.
I'm not denying that he has instilled grit and physicality in his two stints. It was badly needed as we were way too naive and nice on the field for years, especially in Ulster.
But this idea that Donegal are somehow more indisciplined than other teams or that McGuinness gives them license to do things that could lead to red cards and suspensions is going to need data and something a little more than a manager aggressively standing his ground in press conferences.
Murphy may get publicity, but he doesn't get punished. That's the difference.
McGuinness doesn't need to send his players out to get up to all sorts of acts. The CCCC/referees have repeatedly failed to punish their previous actions (Murphy in particular), so they know what they can get away with (in Murphy's case, clearly everything), so Donegal act accordingly.
So we're in cahoots with the CCCC, referees and overall GAA?
There are no other high profile players who have gotten away with stuff that Murphy has?
And because Murphy has gotten off lightly at times (we'll ignore the occasions when he's been harshly sent off), then the whole Donegal squad now has license to do what the f**k they want.
All right lads, suit yourselves. Have at it. Same hysterical horseshit every year on this board.
Take your paranoia hat off. That's not what I said.
Its not Donegal's fault. It's the failure of the CCcC and referees by not dishing out appropriate punishment.
Its not outrageous to say Murphy is the one player who has gotten away with an unbelievable amount of stuff this last 18 months. Even as a Donegal man , you have to admit that.
Other players do too (Donegal, and others), but nowhere near the same extent. But again, that's all down to the failures of refs and disciplinary committees
Quote from: tyrone08 on May 24, 2026, 01:01:43 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2026, 11:35:04 PMTo get this in first - No fan of JMG. And I normally like Tommy Rooney.
Have to say Tommy Rooney went in playing Junior B Hurling - Looking for the I have you snookered here JMG and this will get the clicks. He got a Senior Hurling reply. Jim called it as it was - Rooney looking for to fly that kite. Looking for a sacrificial lamb to fill his podcast.
As for Jim not seeing anything - that's what all intelligent managers say. Opening your mouth about a situation will only give the Rooneys of the world more click bait.
Ironically Rooney still got his clip and the clicks.
So its the journalist fault for pointing it out but mcguinness is grand. Anyone the world is in such a state when people are complaining about journalist asking direct questions
The original post made me wonder the same thing, I must say. What journalist worth his salt wouldn't ask McGuinness that question? I'd hope if not Tommy Rooney, one of the others would have. Two straight up incidences of a manager getting physically involved, and the media are supposed to pretend the second one didn't happen and ask no questions? It's hardly clickbait when it's something that really happened and half the nation bore witness.
The arbiter of right and wrong on these things can never be "Jim McGuinness doesn't like it, don't be annoying poor Jim". He did himself very little credit with his response when literally a hundred other more graceful and de-escalatory options were open to him.
To suggest in an open forum that Tommy Rooney posing a legitimate question, in the course of fulfilling his job description, was somehow going to dictate the course of justice or set the GAA's course of disciplinary action, was borderline preposterous and should have been laughed out of the room. McGuinness really can be a proper gobshite at times.
"Tommy the Tout"
Disappointing performance in second half yesterday. No excuses cork were worthy winners. But we played excellent in first half, however cork could have had two goals. Our kickout is a major problem. And has to be addressed before next game. If at home in croke park I think we can beat anyone with a few tweaks. Still lot of football to be played
Quote from: gallsman on May 24, 2026, 11:51:51 AMThe McGuinness thing is overshadowing (or in some cases deliberately being used to overshadow) the fact that Kerry were clearly the more undisciplined outfit there yesterday.
It started before the throw in with Morley et. al looking to rough up the Donegal FF line. They presumably went out with the mentality that they were going to lay down a marker after the boxes Murphy got away with in the league final. Donaghy's influence probably something to do with it. Clifford was at it more than I've ever seen and they were trying heavy blocks and checks all over the field. Then Burns lost the plot completely obviously.
There was a similar feel to Kerry when Armagh went down there for league game last year after Armagh had won the All Ireland and beat them in semi final. Don't believe it's a Donaghy influenced thing they would have had similar approaches to Tyrone going down there in past also after Tyrone had beat them in a big game.
Their controlled aggression wasn't too controlled. Clifford no angel though brother worse - to be that good you do have to have a bit of needle in you.
It has kind of distracted from now bad Kerry were. Cork had 14 men for a good while though their opposition wasn't as good.
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 24, 2026, 01:24:28 PMQuoteQuoteQuoteYou think he's out there at training telling the players to risk red cards and suspensions? Because despite what he might say when Murphy, a very high profile player, goes over the top and rightly gets publicity, McGuinness does not control what the GAA can and will do when it comes to discipline.
I'm not denying that he has instilled grit and physicality in his two stints. It was badly needed as we were way too naive and nice on the field for years, especially in Ulster.
But this idea that Donegal are somehow more indisciplined than other teams or that McGuinness gives them license to do things that could lead to red cards and suspensions is going to need data and something a little more than a manager aggressively standing his ground in press conferences.
Murphy may get publicity, but he doesn't get punished. That's the difference.
McGuinness doesn't need to send his players out to get up to all sorts of acts. The CCCC/referees have repeatedly failed to punish their previous actions (Murphy in particular), so they know what they can get away with (in Murphy's case, clearly everything), so Donegal act accordingly.
So we're in cahoots with the CCCC, referees and overall GAA?
There are no other high profile players who have gotten away with stuff that Murphy has?
And because Murphy has gotten off lightly at times (we'll ignore the occasions when he's been harshly sent off), then the whole Donegal squad now has license to do what the f**k they want.
All right lads, suit yourselves. Have at it. Same hysterical horseshit every year on this board.
Take your paranoia hat off. That's not what I said.
Its not Donegal's fault. It's the failure of the CCcC and referees by not dishing out appropriate punishment.
Its not outrageous to say Murphy is the one player who has gotten away with an unbelievable amount of stuff this last 18 months. Even as a Donegal man , you have to admit that.
Other players do too (Donegal, and others), but nowhere near the same extent. But again, that's all down to the failures of refs and disciplinary committees
In your estimation, out of that unbelievable amount, what would the top five things be that Murphy has gotten away with over the last 18 months?
Quote from: gallsman on May 24, 2026, 11:51:51 AMThe McGuinness thing is overshadowing (or in some cases deliberately being used to overshadow) the fact that Kerry were clearly the more undisciplined outfit there yesterday.
It started before the throw in with Morley et. al looking to rough up the Donegal FF line. They presumably went out with the mentality that they were going to lay down a marker after the boxes Murphy got away with in th
e league final. Donaghy's influence probably something to do with it. Clifford was at it more than I've ever seen and they were trying heavy blocks and checks all over the field. Then Burns lost the plot completely obviously.
Foley along with Morley and Casey at the off ball stuff from throw in.
When Kerry lose narrative turns to them been hard done despite their own antics. Was same when Tyrone and Dublin beat them regularly.
What way does draw work now and when is it?
Tuesday week on Morning Ireland.
Quote from: WT4E on May 24, 2026, 09:05:51 PMWhat way does draw work now and when is it?
A. Winners play winners for a QF place.
B. Losers play losers, to get rid of 4 teams
Losers of A play winners of B for the remaining QF places.
draw is Tuesday 2nd June, as there are 4 games next weekend.
It's a mad championship structure in regards to the fact that after all the games Armagh have played this year while Tyrone have been sitting on their hands, they have to win next week just to get to the point where Tyrone now are.
No different to the last few years in that regard, no?
Quote from: greatpoint on May 24, 2026, 05:41:11 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on May 24, 2026, 01:24:28 PMQuoteQuoteQuoteYou think he's out there at training telling the players to risk red cards and suspensions? Because despite what he might say when Murphy, a very high profile player, goes over the top and rightly gets publicity, McGuinness does not control what the GAA can and will do when it comes to discipline.
I'm not denying that he has instilled grit and physicality in his two stints. It was badly needed as we were way too naive and nice on the field for years, especially in Ulster.
But this idea that Donegal are somehow more indisciplined than other teams or that McGuinness gives them license to do things that could lead to red cards and suspensions is going to need data and something a little more than a manager aggressively standing his ground in press conferences.
Murphy may get publicity, but he doesn't get punished. That's the difference.
McGuinness doesn't need to send his players out to get up to all sorts of acts. The CCCC/referees have repeatedly failed to punish their previous actions (Murphy in particular), so they know what they can get away with (in Murphy's case, clearly everything), so Donegal act accordingly.
So we're in cahoots with the CCCC, referees and overall GAA?
There are no other high profile players who have gotten away with stuff that Murphy has?
And because Murphy has gotten off lightly at times (we'll ignore the occasions when he's been harshly sent off), then the whole Donegal squad now has license to do what the f**k they want.
All right lads, suit yourselves. Have at it. Same hysterical horseshit every year on this board.
Take your paranoia hat off. That's not what I said.
Its not Donegal's fault. It's the failure of the CCcC and referees by not dishing out appropriate punishment.
Its not outrageous to say Murphy is the one player who has gotten away with an unbelievable amount of stuff this last 18 months. Even as a Donegal man , you have to admit that.
Other players do too (Donegal, and others), but nowhere near the same extent. But again, that's all down to the failures of refs and disciplinary committees
In your estimation, out of that unbelievable amount, what would the top five things be that Murphy has gotten away with over the last 18 months?
1. The punch to the head v Kerry
2. Closed fist tackle v Derry
3. Taking out the Meath player, definite black
4. Shouldering Murnin in the back on his return, which led to the Forker incident
5. Hand trip v Armagh
A few others as well, came in like a bull in Ulster final, McMullen I think it was. Just managed to evade the tackle somehow. He could have really hurt the lad had he connected. Several incidents v Mayo similar to McMullens. And of course, everyone has to hand the ball back now. Murphy is allowed to throw it back.
I didn't see much of their NFL games this year , so I'm sure there was more in there.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 24, 2026, 03:30:38 PMTheir controlled aggression wasn't too controlled. Clifford no angel though brother worse - to be that good you do have to have a bit of needle in you.
It has kind of distracted from now bad Kerry were. Cork had 14 men for a good while though their opposition wasn't as good.
The Kerry aggression was undoubtedly preplanned, it looked so corny and theatrical rather than a naturally aspirated aggression. Jack O'Connor (butter wouldn't melt on his yerra tongue) did exclaim in his post match interview with Tommy that he saw nothing of it on the pitch before or during the game, the allegedly intrepid Tommy did not follow up on that line of questioning, perhaps his investigative instincts were mellowed out by the copious flow of yerra.
On the half time hooter the Kerry players encroached aggressively towards the Donegal players, way out of proportion to whatever had preceded. I assume Jimmy got emotional and entered the pitch because he thought the ref was not going to take any action re McHugh (with blood all over his face), and then he got involved with the wrong player (nr.9?) and pushed him away.There is little doubt Jimmy will be sanctioned.
Kerry players encroached? I saw 7/8 Donwgal players make their way towards Clifford, then the Kerry players all wayed in after that. Nothing been said about the constant play acting going on. Clifford may have got a red early on, i though it be a yellow.The one at half time was nothing.
Depression setting in after yesterdays game with a sickening thought its ordained in the stars that we will draw Kerry in Round 2B in Killarney and a summer of huge promise ends in a whimper ...... the joys of Roscommon football.
Quote from: GoldCoastRossie on May 25, 2026, 10:00:09 AMDepression setting in after yesterdays game with a sickening thought its ordained in the stars that we will draw Kerry in Round 2B in Killarney and a summer of huge promise ends in a whimper ...... the joys of Roscommon football.
Do you think so?
Kerry will be vulnerable next time out.
To me Roscommon gave a 7/10 performance yesterday. If they were at the level they were playing at in Connacht they would have won - that's not taking anything away from Tyrone because there is more in them too.
Kerry on the other hand were all over the place discipline wise. Philly McMahon had a good article on Saturday about the potential for what ultimately unfolded and he called it right. It played right into Donegal hands. Where Kerry's at right now, they could be doing with a Kildare or Cavan.
This is the earliest Kerry have faced a knockout game in years I reckon given that they are 5 games away from winning Sam.
Quote from: GoldCoastRossie on May 25, 2026, 10:00:09 AMDepression setting in after yesterdays game with a sickening thought its ordained in the stars that we will draw Kerry in Round 2B in Killarney and a summer of huge promise ends in a whimper ...... the joys of Roscommon football.
Can we stop with the negativity and fatalism?
Its like some followers were only waiting for a defeat so we could go back to misery.
Maybe an inheritance from the famine that we'll always be the losers?
RAISE UP THE STANDARD HIGH
WAVE BANNERS TO THE SKY
MEN OF ROSCOMMON
ARE MARCHING AGAIN!!
Quote from: APM on May 25, 2026, 10:37:59 AMKerry on the other hand were all over the place discipline wise. Philly McMahon had a good article on Saturday about the potential for what ultimately unfolded and he called it right. It played right into Donegal hands. Where Kerry's at right now, they could be doing with a Kildare or Cavan.
This is the earliest Kerry have faced a knockout game in years I reckon given that they are 5 games away from winning Sam.
People aren't going to fall into the Kerry yerra trap again?
This time Last year the same questions was asked of Kerry as Meath swept past and into the All-Ireland quarter-finals.
Kerry come alive in knock out championship football and whoever are unlucky to draw them next will make their exit from the championship and if it's Kildare or Cavan expect hammering similar to Preliminary Quarter-Final on June 21st last year.
Certainly hope we beat Derry. Wouldnt fancy a do or die game against Meath, Kerry or the Rossies at this stage!
Kerry not be coming alive to they get 4/5 their players bck, the goalkeeper and get the returning lads just bck up to fitness.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 25, 2026, 12:50:45 AMKerry players encroached? I saw 7/8 Donwgal players make their way towards Clifford, then the Kerry players all wayed in after that. Nothing been said about the constant play acting going on. Clifford may have got a red early on, i though it be a yellow.The one at half time was nothing.
The quickest anybody ran in that game was Murphy trying to get into the fight.
Kerry were poor in the first half, even making basic technical mistakes that you'd see in div 4 of the league. In the 2nd half they were non existent, missing injured players and red card are no excuse for throwing in the towel. Just think how Joe Brolly must be feeling with Kerry getting schmozzled and Cork imperious with 14 players.
I'd say the officials were clear on the red card at half time but I wouldn't be surprised had they accidentally gazed upon the GAA+ half time focus on the incidents.
McGuinness and Clifford getting bans will have a huge say.
Tyrone , Armagh and Galway will feel they have a serious chance in that scenario.
Tyrone odds slashed from 25/1 to 14/1 for good reason.
Quote from: DaleCooper on May 25, 2026, 09:46:27 PMMcGuinness and Clifford getting bans will have a huge say.
Tyrone , Armagh and Galway will feel they have a serious chance in that scenario.
Tyrone odds slashed from 25/1 to 14/1 for good reason.
Surely 0 chance Clifford gets a ban. Jim probably will which will be a laugh but doesnt deserve one to be fair
That would be max fireworks as Donegal will go mad at double standards.
The growing Kerry Donegal rivalry / hatred is great if they can avoid getting men lined and ruining the spectacle.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 25, 2026, 10:13:26 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on May 25, 2026, 09:46:27 PMMcGuinness and Clifford getting bans will have a huge say.
Tyrone , Armagh and Galway will feel they have a serious chance in that scenario.
Tyrone odds slashed from 25/1 to 14/1 for good reason.
Surely 0 chance Clifford gets a ban. Jim probably will which will be a laugh but doesnt deserve one to be fair
Clifford might have got away, his team were well beaten. However, Jimmy does have to get a rap otherwise you are making an eejit of Ger Brennan, and if like in any game if one team gets a red card then the other team are then at risk.
Tyrone odds were probably good value, I still recall betting on them at 33/1 in 2008.
Clifford not out of the woods just ask Daire Cregg, he got retrospectively banned after an innocuous coming together in New york. Clifford's was much more dangerous and missed by the ref.
Understood CCCC can review footage and implement ban.
No idea why we cant do some sort of video replay system. Clifford leads with elbow a lot, it might put an end to that.
Decision will be by tomorrows end I believe.
Quote from: TyroneTam on May 26, 2026, 12:05:58 AMClifford not out of the woods just ask Daire Cregg, he got retrospectively banned after an innocuous coming together in New york. Clifford's was much more dangerous and missed by the ref.
Cregg was red carded and appeal failed I think.
Narrative on Murphy changing
Any podcast I heard all referenced his escapades in the league final etc as the backdrop so maybe just maybe he and Clifford will be taken to task like the rest if they get up to any tricks .
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 26, 2026, 06:19:47 AMQuote from: TyroneTam on May 26, 2026, 12:05:58 AMClifford not out of the woods just ask Daire Cregg, he got retrospectively banned after an innocuous coming together in New york. Clifford's was much more dangerous and missed by the ref.
Cregg was red carded and appeal failed I think.
Correct.
Quote from: naka on May 26, 2026, 08:17:23 AMNarrative on Murphy changing
Any podcast I heard all referenced his escapades in the league final etc as the backdrop so maybe just maybe he and Clifford will be taken to task like the rest if they get up to any tricks .
It's a fair point to make that Murphy's robust approach in the league final wound Kerry up for this one. I wonder will this ultimately come back to bite Donegal if McGuinness gets a ban.
Quote from: naka on May 26, 2026, 08:17:23 AMNarrative on Murphy changing
Any podcast I heard all referenced his escapades in the league final etc as the backdrop so maybe just maybe he and Clifford will be taken to task like the rest if they get up to any tricks .
It's not like people haven't been saying for years but media finally picked up on it. Still allowed referee a game though.
No further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Sweep it under the carpet.
Should Brennan not be appealing his case again?
Quote from: marty34 on May 26, 2026, 05:31:01 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Sweep it under the carpet.
Should Brennan not be appealing his case again?
Christ almighty. On what grounds do you think Brennan should appeal?
1) the fact they've made a balls of the McGuinness situation does not mean the Brennan one was mishandled.
2) the DRA told him to go f**k. There are no further avenues of appeal for him.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Good news for both counties. There won't be a kite flown in Rossnowlagh or a tourist milked in Kilarney.
Quote from: weareros on May 26, 2026, 07:06:14 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Good news for both counties. There won't be a kite flown in Rossnowlagh or a tourist milked in Kilarney.
I thought only protestants went to Rossnowlagh?
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
If it was anybody else beside Clifford , they would get the book thrown at them.
How many more times have we to watch him coming out of a melee with his hands raided in the air " Nothing to do with me " style.
Quote from: Halfquarter on May 27, 2026, 10:53:34 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
If it was anybody else beside Clifford , they would get the book thrown at them.
How many more times have we to watch him coming out of a melee with his hands raided in the air " Nothing to do with me " style.
No player is getting cited and banned for a push now come one.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 27, 2026, 10:57:28 AMQuote from: Halfquarter on May 27, 2026, 10:53:34 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
If it was anybody else beside Clifford , they would get the book thrown at them.
How many more times have we to watch him coming out of a melee with his hands raided in the air " Nothing to do with me " style.
No player is getting cited and banned for a push now come one.
I've never saw such a crying match over something as borderline as that incident. Donegal twitter haven't stopped gurning since Saturday.
2 Provincial Champions lost to "long grass waiters" so far.
If Armagh and Westmeath also lose will there be calls for tweaks to better reward Champions for next year?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 11:08:35 AM2 Provincial Champions lost to "long grass waiters" so far.
If Armagh and Westmeath also lose will there be calls for tweaks to better reward Champions for next year?
Would be shocked if Westmeath are beat. There's a not too unlikely scenario that Westmeath are the only provincial winners who win their qualifier game.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 11:08:35 AM2 Provincial Champions lost to "long grass waiters" so far.
If Armagh and Westmeath also lose will there be calls for tweaks to better reward Champions for next year?
Should be tweaks regardless.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 11:08:35 AM2 Provincial Champions lost to "long grass waiters" so far.
If Armagh and Westmeath also lose will there be calls for tweaks to better reward Champions for next year?
2 week break to a home tie is as good as you can hope for.
A seeded draw would be a step too far.
Quote from: blanketattack on May 27, 2026, 12:35:29 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 11:08:35 AM2 Provincial Champions lost to "long grass waiters" so far.
If Armagh and Westmeath also lose will there be calls for tweaks to better reward Champions for next year?
2 week break to a home tie is as good as you can hope for.
A seeded draw would be a step too far.
Put them straight through to quarter finals. Provincial losers into prelim quarter finals. Let the other 8 teams play each other, 4 losers out and 4 winners into prelim qf.
We had that in 2022 and 90% voted to abolish it!
at least dont do the draws until after the provincial finals have been played?
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 27, 2026, 11:26:40 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 11:08:35 AM2 Provincial Champions lost to "long grass waiters" so far.
If Armagh and Westmeath also lose will there be calls for tweaks to better reward Champions for next year?
Would be shocked if Westmeath are beat. There's a not too unlikely scenario that Westmeath are the only provincial winners who win their qualifier game.
That would not surprise me at all. A week ago Tyrone were RIP. Will Derry suddenly be AI contenders after this weekend? Note: I expected Down to upset Armagh...no need to worry.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 01:20:03 PMWe had that in 2022 and 90% voted to abolish it!
I'll refrain from writing the obvious(I've written it already). Whatever the new tweek is, just abolish penalty kicks and bring back Replays. It's poor optics when the inter-county championships(the jewel in the GAA crown) use a format that feels like they're rushing to get it over and done with.
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2026, 08:19:22 AMat least dont do the draws until after the provincial finals have been played?
I'd say that will definitely be looked at for next year.
Quote from: EoinW on May 28, 2026, 11:19:13 AMQuote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2026, 01:20:03 PMWe had that in 2022 and 90% voted to abolish it!
I'll refrain from writing the obvious(I've written it already). Whatever the new tweek is, just abolish penalty kicks and bring back Replays. It's poor optics when the inter-county championships(the jewel in the GAA crown) use a format that feels like they're rushing to get it over and done with.
Replays were fine in the old days, but with games coming thick and thin, its a disadvantage now. For examole if Armagh/Monaghan went to a replay, that's advantage Derry and Mayo. Championship games would need to be reduced to bring replays back. They were wonderful in tne old provincial system and generated great excitement and sense of occasion.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 11:33:39 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2026, 08:19:22 AMat least dont do the draws until after the provincial finals have been played?
I'd say that will definitely be looked at for next year.
But what real difference would that make??
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:03:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 11:33:39 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2026, 08:19:22 AMat least dont do the draws until after the provincial finals have been played?
I'd say that will definitely be looked at for next year.
But what real difference would that make??
It absolutely would have helped Tyrone massively having those 3 weeks or whatever it was since the draw to focus solely on Roscommon
As opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
Certainly not in this new format anyway.
Dublin basically killed the provincials. Leinster was somewhat previously competitive as is Connacht and Ulster. Now we're all paying the price of Dublin's domination.
This format is effectively the final nail in the provincials coffin
Quote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 12:47:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Was just coming to reply something similar, wouldn't begrudge Galway a handy draw this year given they've ended up in the group of death the previous 3. (Most fecking likely we' draw them if we beat Derry)
If seeding was in this year
1 - Kerry, Ros, Westmeath, Armagh
2- Cork, Galway, Dublin,Monaghan
3- Donegal, Mayowestros, Meath,Derry?.
4 Tyrone?, Louth, Cavan, Kildare.
Feckit we'd still have got Tyrone🫤
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 01:44:12 PMIf seeding was in this year
1 - Kerry, Ros, Westmeath, Armagh
2- Cork, Galway, Dublin,Monaghan
3- Donegal, Mayowestros, Meath,Derry?.
4 Tyrone?, Louth, Cavan, Kildare.
Feckit we'd still have got Tyrone🫤
Fair difference there for provincial winners vs losers for potential opponents
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 01:06:05 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 12:47:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Was just coming to reply something similar, wouldn't begrudge Galway a handy draw this year given they've ended up in the group of death the previous 3. (Most fecking likely we' draw them if we beat Derry)
Groups of death?
Firstly 3 teams got out of each group which should be more than manageable for any established Division 1 team.
Last year Galway had Derry who didn't win a league or championship game all year and played Armagh in round 3 when it was a dead rubber game for Armagh.
2024,23 Westmeath was in Galways group who was always going to finish 4th.
I'm don't understand the whole fuss of tweaking a new structure after the first weekend of it, the first full round is not even complete yet. Yes 2 provisional winners were beat and two beaten finalist won. This is not a pattern as it too early to tell.
The beauty of championship at moment is that a lot of teams are capable of beating each other. In their previous championship meeting Roscommon beat Tyrone in Omagh and on Sunday there was only a point in it. It is hard to predict how the will go the next time they play each other. Likewise with Kerry and Donegal.
There has always been talk about too many games in a short space of time vs too long of a break and not having enough games or an easy draw and and being injury free vs battle harden by a tough draw. Next thing people will be saying to lose your provisional final as it is easier to get over the hurt than taking the confidence from a title win and recover from the celebrations.
Enjoy how competitive the championship is and know that it is how you perform on the day. Every team enters the first round of the AI with the same amount of games needed to win it. No excuses on the format for your teams performance.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2026, 02:42:47 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 01:06:05 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 12:47:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Was just coming to reply something similar, wouldn't begrudge Galway a handy draw this year given they've ended up in the group of death the previous 3. (Most fecking likely we' draw them if we beat Derry)
Groups of death?
Firstly 3 teams got out of each group which should be more than manageable for any established Division 1 team.
Last year Galway had Derry who didn't win a league or championship game all year and played Armagh in round 3 when it was a dead rubber game for Armagh.
2024,23 Westmeath was in Galways group who was always going to finish 4th.
Look at the groups the other provincial winners got for the previous 3 seasons. Start with Kerry
"Awck sure westmeath were always finishing last there". Yep cos the other teams in the group were always strong. The Connacht winners (1 seed) got the Ulster runnersup (2 seed) every year. Which always ended up being Armagh and Galway. Other illustrious no.2 seeds options were Clare, Sligo, Louth. 4th seed options along with Westmeath were the likes of Cavan and Kildare
All of those teams bar Sligo actually got out of their groups at different points. Poor westmeath got punished because they did indeed draw into the group of death twice
Quote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 03:15:03 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2026, 02:42:47 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 01:06:05 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 12:47:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Was just coming to reply something similar, wouldn't begrudge Galway a handy draw this year given they've ended up in the group of death the previous 3. (Most fecking likely we' draw them if we beat Derry)
Groups of death?
Firstly 3 teams got out of each group which should be more than manageable for any established Division 1 team.
Last year Galway had Derry who didn't win a league or championship game all year and played Armagh in round 3 when it was a dead rubber game for Armagh.
2024,23 Westmeath was in Galways group who was always going to finish 4th.
Look at the groups the other provincial winners got for the previous 3 seasons. Start with Kerry
"Awck sure westmeath were always finishing last there". Yep cos the other teams in the group were always strong. The Connacht winners (1 seed) got the Ulster runnersup (2 seed) every year. Which always ended up being Armagh and Galway. Other illustrious no.2 seeds options were Clare, Sligo, Louth. 4th seed options along with Westmeath were the likes of Cavan and Kildare
All of those teams bar Sligo actually got out of their groups at different points. Poor westmeath got punished because they did indeed draw into the group of death twice
Yeah don't think Galway could have got a tougher group in any of those years.
Hope to feck we don't draw Galway for another few years anyway!
The draw for round 2a 2b will take place on RTÉ Radio One's 'Morning Ireland' show on Tuesday, June 2.
I Wonder why it's not held bank holiday Monday in the afternoon on GAA+ as they did with round 1?
Quote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 03:15:03 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2026, 02:42:47 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 01:06:05 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 12:47:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Was just coming to reply something similar, wouldn't begrudge Galway a handy draw this year given they've ended up in the group of death the previous 3. (Most fecking likely we' draw them if we beat Derry)
Groups of death?
Firstly 3 teams got out of each group which should be more than manageable for any established Division 1 team.
Last year Galway had Derry who didn't win a league or championship game all year and played Armagh in round 3 when it was a dead rubber game for Armagh.
2024,23 Westmeath was in Galways group who was always going to finish 4th.
Look at the groups the other provincial winners got for the previous 3 seasons. Start with Kerry
"Awck sure westmeath were always finishing last there". Yep cos the other teams in the group were always strong. The Connacht winners (1 seed) got the Ulster runnersup (2 seed) every year. Which always ended up being Armagh and Galway. Other illustrious no.2 seeds options were Clare, Sligo, Louth. 4th seed options along with Westmeath were the likes of Cavan and Kildare
All of those teams bar Sligo actually got out of their groups at different points. Poor westmeath got punished because they did indeed draw into the group of death twice
Regardless the objective was reaching the knock out stages by finishing 1st,2nd,3rd. Nobody seen Galway in any of the last three years finishing 4th and making their exit.
A group of death for Westmeath not for the rest with them in the group is final conclusion.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2026, 04:12:38 PMI Wonder why it's not held bank holiday Monday in the afternoon on GAA+ as they did with round 1?
If I was a conspiracy theorist.....
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 28, 2026, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
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This format is effectively the final nail in the provincials coffin
Hmmmmm....
C120k attended the 4 Finals.
Lid not closed yet....
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 04:41:50 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on May 28, 2026, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
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This format is effectively the final nail in the provincials coffin
Hmmmmm....
C120k attended the 4 Finals.
Lid not closed yet....
3 of the 4 games were tight hard fought games with winners where it meant the world to the team and supporters, if Cork weren't so flaky it would have been 4 brilliant games. Not to mention dramatic games/upsets e.g Down vs Donegal, Derry vs Monaghan, Meath vs Westmeath, Armagh vs Tyrone.
Life in the provincials yet.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 04:41:50 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on May 28, 2026, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
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This format is effectively the final nail in the provincials coffin
Hmmmmm....
C120k attended the 4 Finals.
Lid not closed yet....
Yeah, but a lot of that crowd was from; Westmeath, who had only ever won 1 provincial (Dublin brought poor numbers); Armagh, who had gone 18 years without one, and they always carry good support; Monaghan, no title since 2015; and Roscommon were at home and a few years since their last title
I think we'll see over the next year or two whether it's beneficial for the bigger teams to take the provincials seriously. That will determine the provincials future
This season, if the likes of Donegal (God forbid) or say Mayo/Meath win an AI or get very close , you might say the rest/knocked out early did them good, or if Armagh look jaded/pick up injuries, you might say they should have gave the provincials a miss.
However imbalanced they are , they need promoted and retained , and the winning teams need a clear incentive/advantage later in the championship
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 03:22:24 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 03:15:03 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2026, 02:42:47 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 01:06:05 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 28, 2026, 12:47:33 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
And for the 4 years previous Galway won Connacht and got royally screwed in the next round with the toughest option available. Including the farcical situation last year whereby they knew going into the final with Mayo that winning would put them into the group of death. Maybe there's a hex over the winners of connacht? Albiet Roscommon didnt get the worst draw available to them this year. Perhaps the third worst
The draw being done in advance is at the request of county boards for planning purposes, thats been mentioned on a few podcasts. I wouldn't agree with it but we can hardly complain when its the participants rather than the GAA that are requesting it
I'd agree that the provincial finalist loser in this format probably seems unfairly rewarded in comparison to everyone else. The fix would be to go back to last years seeding arrangement, which was to seed: winner - 1, runner up - 2, top 4 non finalist from league - 3, rest - 4. Then play 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Perhaps they thought that having 1 v 4 seeds would lead to very one sided matches, as it would've led to Cavan playing Kerry in Killarney or the likes
Was just coming to reply something similar, wouldn't begrudge Galway a handy draw this year given they've ended up in the group of death the previous 3. (Most fecking likely we' draw them if we beat Derry)
Groups of death?
Firstly 3 teams got out of each group which should be more than manageable for any established Division 1 team.
Last year Galway had Derry who didn't win a league or championship game all year and played Armagh in round 3 when it was a dead rubber game for Armagh.
2024,23 Westmeath was in Galways group who was always going to finish 4th.
Look at the groups the other provincial winners got for the previous 3 seasons. Start with Kerry
"Awck sure westmeath were always finishing last there". Yep cos the other teams in the group were always strong. The Connacht winners (1 seed) got the Ulster runnersup (2 seed) every year. Which always ended up being Armagh and Galway. Other illustrious no.2 seeds options were Clare, Sligo, Louth. 4th seed options along with Westmeath were the likes of Cavan and Kildare
All of those teams bar Sligo actually got out of their groups at different points. Poor westmeath got punished because they did indeed draw into the group of death twice
Yeah don't think Galway could have got a tougher group in any of those years.
Hope to feck we don't draw Galway for another few years anyway!
It wouldn't feel like a championship at this point without a eye clawing heart stopping game between Armagh and Galway that went down to the very wire. So many ridiculous finishes. Armagh still with the cherry of them though
Is ross mcquillan injured and just returning to fitness or just not made the starting team ? I thought he had nailed down a starting position in that armagh half back line
Think its bench impact though expected he would be more of starter. Whatever case Armagh have a formidable sub lineup.
Quote from: downgael2065 on May 28, 2026, 11:27:30 PMIs ross mcquillan injured and just returning to fitness or just not made the starting team ? I thought he had nailed down a starting position in that armagh half back line
Had a slight knock before Down and was rested as a precaution, possibly being eased back, partly very hard to justify dropping anyone for him and his pace late on is an unbelievable weapon to have, the lad also had a close personal bereavement I think the day of the Ulster final.
Would personally be starting him somewhere, probably my player of the year up until injury for us along with Burns and McCabe.
KMcG is very much a man for if you hold the yellow jersey or in pole position or any other terminology that rocks your boat you keep the starting jersey no matter what you've done previously and the players all know that. I suppose it keeps the thing right and everyone is fighting hard to get in and perform to keep a starting slot, if you're unlucky enough to get injured and the lad that replaces you performs well then you have a major fight to try and get your place back and KMcG seems to always keep the man on form in a starting role.
On the game here tomorrow, I expect some heavy showers throughout the day and during the game so could be another leveler like Clones a few weeks back, I certainly would not rule out another draw here. A few Derry wans I work with are content with the game and quietly confident of a Derry win, surely Armagh can't give us another extra time game?.
I doubt It was Andy Morans plan but with June around the corner it's still experimental time with the Mayo team clearly not knowing what is their strongest team.
The whole spine of the team 1,3,6,9,11,14 is changed from their last game. Experienced players dropped while three included that will be making their championshop debut and could say 4 as the only experience was one game v London.
Opportunity surely for a more settled and experienced Monaghan team on Sunday to win if they have got the Ulster final out of their system?
Yep, great opportunity for Monaghan.
Also a chance for Mayo to spark something, they're adrift at the moment and the script has been ripped up. Will the players have learnt their new lines in time though?
Quote from: illdecide on May 29, 2026, 10:37:33 AMKMcG is very much a man for if you hold the yellow jersey or in pole position or any other terminology that rocks your boat you keep the starting jersey no matter what you've done previously and the players all know that. I suppose it keeps the thing right and everyone is fighting hard to get in and perform to keep a starting slot, if you're unlucky enough to get injured and the lad that replaces you performs well then you have a major fight to try and get your place back and KMcG seems to always keep the man on form in a starting role.
On the game here tomorrow, I expect some heavy showers throughout the day and during the game so could be another leveler like Clones a few weeks back, I certainly would not rule out another draw here. A few Derry wans I work with are content with the game and quietly confident of a Derry win, surely Armagh can't give us another extra time game?.
How any Derry man who regularly goes to games is quietly confident of a Derry win makes zero sense to me. If these folk have been to all or most games since the start of '24 to now and think this, could you get me their magic mushroom dealers number?
What we can hope for is the team to click and produce a top drawer display, and prey we don't have one of the limp performances that rear it's head at any stage against any opposition. This lack of consistency can't lead to confidence imo, it's 100% heart over head thinking
Derry by 7
On paper Armagh should win by a good bit. Be interesting to see what is in Derry. I don't think they have enough scoring power to really challenge Armagh as McGuigan likely to be well marshalled. Love to see Derry win but they have shown nothing in a few years to suggest that they can challenge the top teams.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 28, 2026, 05:14:17 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 04:41:50 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on May 28, 2026, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2026, 12:34:31 PMAs opposed to 2 weeks.
But there is no perk for winning the Provincial Final in the current system.
Galway bet Leitrim, lost CF but are in the same pot as Ros who bet Galway (and Mayowestros)or Armagh who had to win 3 games to get to UF.
Then Galway get a home game v the weakest team of the 16!!
This system was voted in while Dublin were on a run of 23 out of 24 Leinsters and Kerry on a run of 14 out of 15 Munsters so maybe that worked against any special perks for Provincial winners?
.
This format is effectively the final nail in the provincials coffin
Hmmmmm....
C120k attended the 4 Finals.
Lid not closed yet....
3 of the 4 games were tight hard fought games with winners where it meant the world to the team and supporters, if Cork weren't so flaky it would have been 4 brilliant games. Not to mention dramatic games/upsets e.g Down vs Donegal, Derry vs Monaghan, Meath vs Westmeath, Armagh vs Tyrone.
Life in the provincials yet.
The life would be drained out of the Ulster finalists had it gone to a replay and then to face Derry and Mayo after a few nights sleep.
This evening in Mullingar will be very interesting. The bandwagon is fully stocked and 'mad for road'.
Westmeath enter very unfamiliar territory - Leinster champions attempting to progress towards the latter part of the All Ireland championship. Our sole attempt previously ended in a disappointing affair against Derry. Once again it's an Ulster team blocking our path. We're slight favourites with the bookies and the fans are anticipating a big performance.
I'm intrigued to see the players' mindset and how McHugh manages to get them back on track. The team played with unrelenting hunger in the Leinster campaign. The holy grail for Westmeath football over the last 20 years has been to repeat the feat of 2004. These lads achieved this, and probably ahead of any schedule that may have been outlined. They have reached the summit. The euphoria that enveloped the county for the last two weeks confirms this.
Now McHugh effectively starts again. Everything has changed. The energy is different. The psychology has shifted, whether they realise or accept it. The question is whether that can summon the same levels of endeavour so quickly again. Subconsciously, are they fatigued, or is the hunger blunted?
The experience of Kerry and Roscommon doesn't inspire us. Roscommon are probably the better comparison as they too had an outpouring of emotion. They didn't reach their previous level with any consistency last week. Donegal and Tyrone spent weeks waiting and preparing. Cavan will have done the same. We're seeking to buck the trend.
The team is similar to the Dublin game. McHugh trying to replicate the occasion. Senan Baker can count himself unlucky not to start. Heslin's role will be interesting. Will he arrive earlier this time, or at all?
Danny Scahill appears to have recovered which is a boost. The condition of Matthew Whitaker's ankle is anybody's guess. If he can keep going for most of the game, he'll be really important. The comforting fact is that the bench looks strong.
I expect the crowd will be predominantly local and the atmosphere should be electric. That could be important as Cavan will ask real questions. They will have their moments and deep down they will not fear Westmeath. McCabe will have his homework done. I'd have preferred another week to get them into the right frame of mind.
I'm hoping that they will burst out and put in a big performance in front of the home crowd. They are in bonus territory now and hopefully that will help. Their legacy is secure, despite how fanciful that sounds. They now need to push on and extend the adventure into another chapter.
That's the task facing Mark McHugh. Wonderful times for Westmeath supporters. The anticipation is palpable.
Quote from: Iarmhí Abú on May 30, 2026, 08:35:32 AMThis evening in Mullingar will be very interesting. The bandwagon is fully stocked and 'mad for road'.
Westmeath enter very unfamiliar territory - Leinster champions attempting to progress towards the latter part of the All Ireland championship. Our sole attempt previously ended in a disappointing affair against Derry. Once again it's an Ulster team blocking our path. We're slight favourites with the bookies and the fans are anticipating a big performance.
I'm intrigued to see the players' mindset and how McHugh manages to get them back on track. The team played with unrelenting hunger in the Leinster campaign. The holy grail for Westmeath football over the last 20 years has been to repeat the feat of 2004. These lads achieved this, and probably ahead of any schedule that may have been outlined. They have reached the summit. The euphoria that enveloped the county for the last two weeks confirms this.
Now McHugh effectively starts again. Everything has changed. The energy is different. The psychology has shifted, whether they realise or accept it. The question is whether that can summon the same levels of endeavour so quickly again. Subconsciously, are they fatigued, or is the hunger blunted?
The experience of Kerry and Roscommon doesn't inspire us. Roscommon are probably the better comparison as they too had an outpouring of emotion. They didn't reach their previous level with any consistency last week. Donegal and Tyrone spent weeks waiting and preparing. Cavan will have done the same. We're seeking to buck the trend.
The team is similar to the Dublin game. McHugh trying to replicate the occasion. Senan Baker can count himself unlucky not to start. Heslin's role will be interesting. Will he arrive earlier this time, or at all?
Danny Scahill appears to have recovered which is a boost. The condition of Matthew Whitaker's ankle is anybody's guess. If he can keep going for most of the game, he'll be really important. The comforting fact is that the bench looks strong.
I expect the crowd will be predominantly local and the atmosphere should be electric. That could be important as Cavan will ask real questions. They will have their moments and deep down they will not fear Westmeath. McCabe will have his homework done. I'd have preferred another week to get them into the right frame of mind.
I'm hoping that they will burst out and put in a big performance in front of the home crowd. They are in bonus territory now and hopefully that will help. Their legacy is secure, despite how fanciful that sounds. They now need to push on and extend the adventure into another chapter.
That's the task facing Mark McHugh. Wonderful times for Westmeath supporters. The anticipation is palpable.
Best of luck and enjoy it (unless ye meet Armagh down the line) :)
In a lot of cases, it's very hard to replicate that two games in a row. Teams coming off a high find it hard to get up to tht pitch again. E.g. Down after beating Donegal.
It's very common. The whole emotion and energy of the game, mentally and physically is sapping. We'll see this in Westmeath's case I think.
Quote from: marty34 on May 30, 2026, 08:49:30 AMIn a lot of cases, it's very hard to replicate that two games in a row. Teams coming off a high find it hard to get up to tht pitch again. E.g. Down after beating Donegal.
It's very common. The whole emotion and energy of the game, mentally and physically is sapping. We'll see this in Westmeath's case I think.
In Westmeath situation they couldn't have picked a better draw to get them up to the pitch of things. Down after Donegal then went to play another high end Division 1 team.
Agree with you in relation to the difficulty getting to those levels again as we saw with Louth after won Leinster last year.
Will Dublin v Louth set a new low attendance record for a SFC game involving Dublin?
Tickets still available in the central Sections!
Quote from: Rossfan on May 30, 2026, 11:44:14 AMWill Dublin v Louth set a new low attendance record for a SFC game involving Dublin?
Tickets still available in the central Sections!
Crokepark.ie have 30,000 expected attendance so they must be thinking a lot of Leitrim,Longford supporters will turn up for the Meagher final before it?
Westmeath couldn't have handpicked a better opponent under the circumstances. Cavan, although we survived Division 2, have had a few more injuries since and have plenty of question marks over us.
Likewise though, the best draw for us would have been one of the lower ranked Leinster teams and Westmeath are a Division 3 team after all.
They are rightfully favourites though but that is a tag that can carry extra weight for the uninitiated. We'll be quite happy going in as underdogs, it's a tag that suits us. Westmeath much better team at the moment but a tricky obstacle for McHugh none the less. They've had two great wins on the trot but that brings it's own pressure and expectation and the home crowd are clearly very buoyant for this one. Our games with our neighbour are usually tight affairs and neither county can claim the clear upper hand over our meetings down the years. So it should be close enough but think McHugh will have them right and they'll be too strong for us.
Half-time Westmeath 0-12 Cavan 0-6. Cavan have the wind 2nd half and last year in the league in Cusack Park Westmeath was 12 points in front at half time and Cavan ended up winning.
Extra time coming up. Westmeath 0-22 Cavan 2-16. Heslin had a two pointer free to win it but kicked it wide.
Extra time, half time Cavan: 3-21 Westmeath 0-24
Result Westmeath 1-31 Cavan 3-21
Good second half by Cavan.
I'd have thought Heslin might have worked a one/two short one and try for the single point from closer in.
Huge effort here from Cavan, 6 points up with 10 mins to go...Westmeath hangover from Leinster final coming to the fore. Big 2nd half coming up for Cavan.
Well done to Westmeath, the better team won eventually.
I expected some sort of response from Cavan today and we got it but at half time in extra time I had no confidence we'd have the cajones to actually go on and win it. A pattern of criminal turnovers handed Westmeath possession numerous times and undermined any chance we had, and they took full advantage. That's the sort of raggedness you get from Cavan sides when the heat is on, we simply just don't have the stuff when it matters most.
We did well enough up to a point, some eye catching contributions, all without a few of our very experienced old hands too, but at the end of the day it's just another moral victory to throw on the pile and keep us hovering on the edge of relevance. We might build on this but in all honesty it's probably two of the weaker teams in the championship and we were second best.
Cavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Quote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Which of Cavan or Kildare do you expect Kerry to draw on Tuesday?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 31, 2026, 12:20:58 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Which of Cavan or Kildare do you expect Kerry to draw on Tuesday?
Wrong question.
Which of Cavan or Kildare will have to travel to Kerry
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on May 31, 2026, 12:26:28 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 31, 2026, 12:20:58 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Which of Cavan or Kildare do you expect Kerry to draw on Tuesday?
Wrong question.
Which of Cavan or Kildare will have to travel to Kerry
;D ;D ;D ;D
It is going to get tougher after today. We all know Kerry will be hard beat.
Honestly at this stage I can see Meath been capable of beating any of them and equally capable of losing to any of them. Seat of your pants stuff for Meath fans.
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on May 31, 2026, 12:26:28 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 31, 2026, 12:20:58 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Which of Cavan or Kildare do you expect Kerry to draw on Tuesday?
Wrong question.
Which of Cavan or Kildare will have to travel to Kerry
No doubt it will be Cavan
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on May 31, 2026, 12:26:28 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on May 31, 2026, 12:20:58 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Which of Cavan or Kildare do you expect Kerry to draw on Tuesday?
Wrong question.
Which of Cavan or Kildare will have to travel to Kerry
Such cynicism! To be fair, a Kerryman might flip the narrative.
The original format had Kerry winning the Hurling province and waltzing into the SF. The back door system had them earning a QF berth. Now they must win two games to reach the QF. Who did they draw this year? The toughest opponent they could have.
Kerry could suggest they deserve a Cavan or Kildare the next time out. I have a feeling Kerry only care about getting their players healthy. They'll take on all comers.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Only just now catching up on all the cope in this thread in the aftermath of this, great reading. Personally I think it's a conspiracy aimed directly at the enemies of McGuinness and Murphy
Quote from: Dunneroyal on May 31, 2026, 09:15:44 AMIt is going to get tougher after today. We all know Kerry will be hard beat.
Honestly at this stage I can see Meath been capable of beating any of them and equally capable of losing to any of them. Seat of your pants stuff for Meath fans.
If we sort out our defense and get a bit more aggressive in midfield we might have a chance but Robbie cut a much too content figure after the Cork game for my liking. Maybe behind closed doors it's different but if I was him
I'd be a bit pissed off with how we went about the second half against Cork. With an extra man struggling on our own kick outs while unable to stop theirs down the other end.
We need to be able to deal with a bit of pressure and meet aggression head on as teams know that if they let us play we'll beat them but we wilt in the face of a hard press.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Mayo are entitled to be in round 2a
Quote from: greatpoint on May 31, 2026, 11:49:13 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2026, 01:59:33 PMNo further action taken against David Clifford and Jim McGuinness is not a good look with HQ at all.
Only just now catching up on all the cope in this thread in the aftermath of this, great reading. Personally I think it's a conspiracy aimed directly at the enemies of McGuinness and Murphy
No conspiracy or do I see McGuinness,Murphy as enemies.
Rules are straight forward even an attempt to swing an elbow at opponent is deemed a red card. No manager is allowed onto the field and place his hands on opposition player so McGuinness is lucky to avoid a suspension
Quote from: Main Street on May 31, 2026, 12:39:36 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 30, 2026, 09:11:09 PMQuote from: Main Street on May 30, 2026, 09:01:10 PMCavan will rue those 2 or 3 missed point chances near the end to win the game in normal time after such a good comeback.
Donegal, Cork, Galway, Tyrone joined by Westmeath and Armagh in Round 2A
Kerry, Meath, Kildare, Roscommon joined by Cavan and Derry in Round 2B
Tomorrow
Dublin/Louth
Monaghan/Mayo
Mayo are entitled to be in round 2a
??
One change on the Dublin team. Hugh O'Sullivan starts in place of Evan Comerford.
Louth Sean Callaghan comes in to midfield for Conor Early & Conall McKeever replaces Paul Mathews at 10.
Dubs the much better team so far, their fans have fairly deserted the team tho, have never seen such a small crowd for a Dublin championship home match.
Anything goes with what's classed as a tackle
Goal chances for both, Dublin on top with kick outs and breaking ball. Louth 0-5 Dublin 0-8
1-1 in a minute for Louth. They lead 1-6 to 0-8.
Con very very rusty...some defending by Louth. Good game
Edit...oops
Con O'Callaghan goal Dublin lead by 3 points.
Could the commentators ever try and hide their bias!
Quote from: TyroneTam on May 31, 2026, 02:59:58 PMCon very very rusty...some defending by Louth. Good game
Edit...oops
Lol. He's looking better as the half goes on. This game will bring him on a lot.
Half-time Dublin 1-12 Louth 1-6. Strong finish to the half by Dublin, probably a fair reflection with how much Dublin are on top in the middle 8.
Some start to the 2nd half for Louth, 2 goals in a minute they lead by 4.
17 minutes left Louth 3-12 Dublin 1-17
Louth will win this. The fitter team.
Dublin lead by 1. 1-23 to 3-16.
64 minutes on the clock level again.
A 4th goal for Louth they lead by 3 with 3 minutes left.
Result Dublin 1-24 Louth 4-18. Louths first win v Dublin since 1973 and lost to Dublin by 10 points a few weeks ago.
Bit of luck...probably deserved. Serious stuff from Louth
Great win for Louth. Hung in there well.
Worst Dublin side since the early 1970s, and with the mentality deficit of the 2000s.
To use Bertie's words - that upset the apple tart :)
Great win for the underdog - well done Louth.
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 31, 2026, 04:13:10 PMWorst Dublin side since the early 1970s, and with the mentality deficit of the 2000s.
At least those Dublin teams of the early noughties were fun to watch. A lot of these newer players are very average and that's being kind.
Quote from: square_ball on May 31, 2026, 04:22:21 PMQuote from: JollyGreenGiant on May 31, 2026, 04:13:10 PMWorst Dublin side since the early 1970s, and with the mentality deficit of the 2000s.
At least those Dublin teams of the early noughties were fun to watch. A lot of these newer players are very average and that's being kind.
They weren't far behind the top dogs. These guys might not even be in the Top Ten of the Country.
Monaghan very wasteful so far and haven't been good at putting pressure on the Mayo two point shooters. After 22 minutes Monaghan 0-3 Mayo 0-11.
Mayo going for plenty 2 pters.
Surely McDonald in the square before the ball was even put across.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 31, 2026, 04:31:27 PMSurely McDonald in the square before the ball was even put across.
He wasn't.
May 2nd Dublin won by 10 points and conceded 0-10 against Louth. Today beaten by 3 as louth scored 4-18. It's true no two games the same.
Meanwhile Monaghan are poor at both ends of the field. Have they got a purple patch in them today?
Half-time Monaghan 0-9 Mayo 1-17.
RTE stats
Monaghan 8 scores from 18 shots
Mayo 12 scores from 17 shots.
6 x 2p for Mayo in first half. Thats surely a record?
Monaghan back to league form and all the big players starting. Not sure they have a kick in them but hope I am wrong.
O'hanlon's pace a big loss.
Can non Connacht people ever pronounce the name Beirne properly.
It's NOT Burn!!
Looks like our neighbours will be in 2A.
Monaghan seem to have given up for the year.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2026, 04:49:24 PMCan non Connacht people ever pronounce the name Beirne properly.
It's NOT Burn!!
Looks like our neighbours will be in 2A.
Monaghan seem to have given up for the year.
How is it pronounced
Player had time to take the forward mark, which gives him plenty time to produce a goal opportunity, but palmed it to the other forward!
Why weren't Monaghan this shite the last day ffs
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 05:05:42 PMWhy weren't Monaghan this shite the last day ffs
Or the day before that!
Not sure what's worse with Monaghan today, their poor effort at defending or wasting goal chances
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 31, 2026, 05:07:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 05:05:42 PMWhy weren't Monaghan this shite the last day ffs
Or the day before that!
I mean they were shite for large parts of both those games, in case yous have forgot lol
Can't keep going to the well in that way though
Monaghan should had 3 goals here.
How did Monaghan not get the ball over the line at least once there?
Somehow Monaghan waste a double goal chance.
Jesus if they could take half the missed chances it'd be some game.
It's getting comical now
Mr Livingstone I presume in goal?
Finally a goal for Monaghan.
Ulster final after 55 minutes
Monaghan 0-15 Armagh 1-19
Then arrived a Monaghan purple patch
Today after 55 minutes
Monaghan 1-14 Mayo 1-21
How will this finish?
What height is that boy? Looks a handful
Finally a Monaghan goal!
Watching this, I find it mental that Monaghan actually started McCaul in the Ulster final, and I don't think they kicked the ball direct to him even once. Crazy honestly, should have just held him on reserve if they weren't going to use him from the start. He's some handful
That looks bad for Bobby McCaul.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 31, 2026, 05:27:28 PMThat looks bad for Bobby McCaul.
Doesn't look good hopefully not as bad as it looks. He was giving the much need impact for Monaghan.
Hope thats not as bad as it looked for the lad, was a real handful in there and took the goal brilliantly.
That break in play is what Mayo needed. Monaghan had huge momentum there. It was the last thing Monaghan wanted.
Ah that's absolutely gutting for the young lad. Had a bad injury last Spring which ruled him out for the year - would have featured in the championship only for that. Then comes back in time to make a real impact in this year's championship for a few games, and now looks to have another bad injury
Poor lad, hope it's not anything today damaging long term, as he's a serious prospect. Monaghan had a bit of momentum here but this rules out any chance of another unlikely comeback
Mayo have decided not to shoot
65 minutes Monaghan 1-18 Mayo 1-23
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 31, 2026, 05:20:45 PMMr Livingstone I presume in goal?
Went over lots of heads that one, clearly ;)
Goal for Monaghan. Mayo lead cut by 2. 66.15 on the clock.
Monaghan doing Monaghan things again.
Mayo Coldrick
Result Monaghan 2-20 Mayo 1-24.
Quote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Monaghan and purple patches.
Good game. Hope the injury to McCaul isn't too bad
Didn't think at the time it would matter - but I wouldn't mind another look at that close range McCaul shot which looked over, but the umpire waved wide...
Just back home from Croke park.
When did Dubs last concede 4-18 in a championship game? 1978 AIF?
Hard luck to Monaghan, some come back, missed chances and the non given point now has extra significance. Hardy boys.
Quote from: Schkite on May 31, 2026, 05:54:24 PMDidn't think at the time it would matter - but I wouldn't mind another look at that close range McCaul shot which looked over, but the umpire waved wide...
To be fair to the lads there wasn't much complaining at the time, certainly the tv angle looked over but he was so close and it was high also
Monaghan didn't protest much about the McCaul wide. Replay didn't clear it up much but unless there is conclusive proof it was over you would have to think umpire got it correct.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Quote from: GTP on May 31, 2026, 06:08:14 PMMonaghan didn't protest much about the McCaul wide. Replay didn't clear it up much but unless there is conclusive proof it was over you would have to think umpire got it correct.
In real time it looked a clear point to me, and after seeing the replays a couple of times, it looks even more clear to be honest
Quote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Jesus if Monaghan hadn't shite luck they'd have none at all. McCaul was lighting things up and that injury is a sickener for the lad. That said, despite plenty to admire in the guts and determination, the Farney left way too many scores behind them there.
Plenty of excitement in the last quarter. Monaghan may well feel they threw that away with the chances they had.
Ridiculous for Monaghan to allow Mayo so many easy 2 point shots in the first half, it's as if there was a 2 point freeway corridor in place for the visitors. That left a bit too much too claw back. And Bomber McCaul's 'point' that was declared wide, surely worth a replay?? :)
Quote from: Schkite on May 31, 2026, 06:12:12 PMQuote from: GTP on May 31, 2026, 06:08:14 PMMonaghan didn't protest much about the McCaul wide. Replay didn't clear it up much but unless there is conclusive proof it was over you would have to think umpire got it correct.
In real time it looked a clear point to me, and after seeing the replays a couple of times, it looks even more clear to be honest
It's a certain point for Monaghan. Ref and his officials truly awful to give a wide.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
Good win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
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Quote from: tonto1888 on May 31, 2026, 05:03:12 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2026, 04:49:24 PMCan non Connacht people ever pronounce the name Beirne properly.
It's NOT Burn!!
Looks like our neighbours will be in 2A.
Monaghan seem to have given up for the year.
How is it pronounced
Rhymes with Sperrin or the last 4 letters of Ahern.
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I'd settle for that.
Seriously that draw should have been done after the match in Clones.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 06:25:54 PMGood win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
Tongue in cheek remark?
Media aren't ever going to leave Mayos side and without Kobe today it was certain loss including his final catch to secure possession.
Moran had 5 weeks to work on the problems and after he made multiple changes the 2nd half today was no better than it was against Roscommon.
Won because of the ability to score 6 two pointers 1st half and Monaghan so wasteful. More questions than answers after that win for Mayo while a real missed opportunity for Monaghan and would have got at least extra time had Coldrick and his umpires not wrongly waved the McCaul shot wide.
16k in Croke Park today for Dublin/Louth and Lory Meagher final Longford/Leitrim.
Dublin has truly given up on its football team.
The GAA golden goose has taken flight. 🫣
Not many in Clones either.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 06:25:54 PMGood win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
Would you not be more worried after that game than before it? As far as scheduling advantages go, there is none bigger than a team getting a 5 week break, and being lambasted by local and national media, going up against a team with a 2 week break coming off a gut wrenching extra time loss in a huge game.
It was all absolutely set up for Mayo today and the first half completely proved that, they looked lovely and had a bit of bite, kicked some great two pointers and it was coupled with Monaghan looking way off it. However that second half was insane. Had Monaghan taken any further of their 8 goal chances the result would've been different. And throw in the point that was flagged wide wrongly. You can't put all the difference in performance in the second half down to a mid strength wind.
Today shouldve been Mayo at their very best given that layoff and time to prep. Maybe that is their best, but if it is then that's exceptionally worrying for everyone
Quote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Up there in the Uk with his kings money and taxes he pays :-)
Quote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 07:49:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Up there in the Uk with his kings money and taxes he pays :-)
Ah, I get it now, you're just a dick..
Your points and views on things carry absolutely no weight with comments like that
Quote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
Disgraceful comment
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 07:05:21 PM16k in Croke Park today for Dublin/Louth and Lory Meagher final Longford/Leitrim.
Dublin has truly given up on its football team.
The GAA golden goose has taken flight. 🫣
Good riddance!
Quote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 07:49:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Up there in the Uk with his kings money and taxes he pays :-)
Get a grip, man
Quote from: Manning18 on May 31, 2026, 07:24:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 06:25:54 PMGood win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
Would you not be more worried after that game than before it? As far as scheduling advantages go, there is none bigger than a team getting a 5 week break, and being lambasted by local and national media, going up against a team with a 2 week break coming off a gut wrenching extra time loss in a huge game.
It was all absolutely set up for Mayo today and the first half completely proved that, they looked lovely and had a bit of bite, kicked some great two pointers and it was coupled with Monaghan looking way off it. However that second half was insane. Had Monaghan taken any further of their 8 goal chances the result would've been different. And throw in the point that was flagged wide wrongly. You can't put all the difference in performance in the second half down to a mid strength wind.
Today shouldve been Mayo at their very best given that layoff and time to prep. Maybe that is their best, but if it is then that's exceptionally worrying for everyone
Mayo came into this game from a thumping from Roscommon in the Connacht-Semi.
Monaghan came into todays game after a really good Ulster Championship, bringing a really good Armagh to extra time in the Ulster Final.
Monaghan have proven this Summer to have real bite in them coming into the closing stages of matches.
This is not the Mayo team circa 2012-2017. This bunch are no where near that group Mentally, Physically or Skill wise.
This is probably Mayo at their best in their current guise. To expect more at this stage of their development is bordering on delusional.
Part of the drop off the 2nd half was subbing players who are not fully back from knocks - it's called chancing your arm that we'll see out the game and giving these guys a chance to recuperate for the next tasks ahead. The wind had a small bearing and the point waved wide - these things happen. You can't blame anyone for human error. As for the rest, Mayo got for 5 weeks - Would not playing competitive games make you sharper during that period. I know Andy let a few lads go back to play with their clubs to fill the void.
Derry and Armagh could not beat this bunch in normal time - and both had sizable leads against Monaghan going into the home strait. To belittle Mayo's win by a slender margin is a touch disrespectful to this Monaghan side - they are no handy pushovers in Championship.
To be fair I'd much rather the stern test Mayo got from Monaghan today than the feeble test Galway got from Kildare in Salthill. Which was nothing more than a training game run out.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 09:02:22 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 31, 2026, 07:24:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 06:25:54 PMGood win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
Would you not be more worried after that game than before it? As far as scheduling advantages go, there is none bigger than a team getting a 5 week break, and being lambasted by local and national media, going up against a team with a 2 week break coming off a gut wrenching extra time loss in a huge game.
It was all absolutely set up for Mayo today and the first half completely proved that, they looked lovely and had a bit of bite, kicked some great two pointers and it was coupled with Monaghan looking way off it. However that second half was insane. Had Monaghan taken any further of their 8 goal chances the result would've been different. And throw in the point that was flagged wide wrongly. You can't put all the difference in performance in the second half down to a mid strength wind.
Today shouldve been Mayo at their very best given that layoff and time to prep. Maybe that is their best, but if it is then that's exceptionally worrying for everyone
Mayo came into this game from a thumping from Roscommon in the Connacht-Semi.
Monaghan came into todays game after a really good Ulster Championship, bringing a really good Armagh to extra time in the Ulster Final.
Monaghan have proven this Summer to have real bite in them coming into the closing stages of matches.
This is not the Mayo team circa 2012-2017. This bunch are no where near that group Mentally, Physically or Skill wise.
This is probably Mayo at their best in their current guise. To expect more at this stage of their development is bordering on delusional.
Part of the drop off the 2nd half was subbing players who are not fully back from knocks - it's called chancing your arm that we'll see out the game and giving these guys a chance to recuperate for the next tasks ahead. The wind had a small bearing and the point waved wide - these things happen. You can't blame anyone for human error. As for the rest, Mayo got for 5 weeks - Would not playing competitive games make you sharper during that period. I know Andy let a few lads go back to play with their clubs to fill the void.
Derry and Armagh could not beat this bunch in normal time - and both had sizable leads against Monaghan going into the home strait. To belittle Mayo's win by a slender margin is a touch disrespectful to this Monaghan side - they are no handy pushovers in Championship.
To be fair I'd much rather the stern test Mayo got from Monaghan today than the feeble test Galway got from Kildare in Salthill. Which was nothing more than a training game run out.
Cliche but you can never ever write that Monaghan team off. Any win against them whatever way it comes is a good result. Only for a hoodoo on umpteen goal chances, a clear point given wide and their main threat suffering a freak injury they quite possibly win that game.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 09:32:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 09:02:22 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 31, 2026, 07:24:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 06:25:54 PMGood win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
Would you not be more worried after that game than before it? As far as scheduling advantages go, there is none bigger than a team getting a 5 week break, and being lambasted by local and national media, going up against a team with a 2 week break coming off a gut wrenching extra time loss in a huge game.
It was all absolutely set up for Mayo today and the first half completely proved that, they looked lovely and had a bit of bite, kicked some great two pointers and it was coupled with Monaghan looking way off it. However that second half was insane. Had Monaghan taken any further of their 8 goal chances the result would've been different. And throw in the point that was flagged wide wrongly. You can't put all the difference in performance in the second half down to a mid strength wind.
Today shouldve been Mayo at their very best given that layoff and time to prep. Maybe that is their best, but if it is then that's exceptionally worrying for everyone
Mayo came into this game from a thumping from Roscommon in the Connacht-Semi.
Monaghan came into todays game after a really good Ulster Championship, bringing a really good Armagh to extra time in the Ulster Final.
Monaghan have proven this Summer to have real bite in them coming into the closing stages of matches.
This is not the Mayo team circa 2012-2017. This bunch are no where near that group Mentally, Physically or Skill wise.
This is probably Mayo at their best in their current guise. To expect more at this stage of their development is bordering on delusional.
Part of the drop off the 2nd half was subbing players who are not fully back from knocks - it's called chancing your arm that we'll see out the game and giving these guys a chance to recuperate for the next tasks ahead. The wind had a small bearing and the point waved wide - these things happen. You can't blame anyone for human error. As for the rest, Mayo got for 5 weeks - Would not playing competitive games make you sharper during that period. I know Andy let a few lads go back to play with their clubs to fill the void.
Derry and Armagh could not beat this bunch in normal time - and both had sizable leads against Monaghan going into the home strait. To belittle Mayo's win by a slender margin is a touch disrespectful to this Monaghan side - they are no handy pushovers in Championship.
To be fair I'd much rather the stern test Mayo got from Monaghan today than the feeble test Galway got from Kildare in Salthill. Which was nothing more than a training game run out.
Cliche but you can never ever write that Monaghan team off. Any win against them whatever way it comes is a good result. Only for a hoodoo on umpteen goal chances, a clear point given wide and their main threat suffering a freak injury they quite possibly win that game.
Again and again in the last 4 years it's been shown that the team off the big break has an advantage. Monaghan in 2023 going to Derry and drawing when Derry won the same game easy in Ulster. Mayo beating Kerry by 6 in Killarney. Westmeath running Armagh to a point in Armagh. Cavan beating Mayo. Tyrone beating Donegal in Ballybofey last year. Louth beating Dublin today. Donegal hammering Kerry in Killarney. All inferior teams (or at least outsiders) beating or going close to the supposed better opposition away from home
There's loads more examples. Again and again it's been proven that the team coming off a layoff with a point to prove has a massive advantage over the team coming off a provincial final and a short break. And that's not even to say Mayo are inferior to Monaghan, I think most people would rate them as a superior group. So it was really all perfect for Mayo. They had 2 challenges in recent weeks also
It's not all gloom obviously. Kobe looks sensational for as long as he stays. That's RODs first great championship performance in a while coming off a nightmare 2025. The keeper obviously had a dream debut. It's just all the more odd how they finished it hanging on, especially in context of the ridiculous amount of Monaghan chances missed
Quote from: Manning18 on May 31, 2026, 09:41:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 09:32:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 09:02:22 PMQuote from: Manning18 on May 31, 2026, 07:24:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2026, 06:25:54 PMGood win for Mayo away from home in a tricky fixture with in the main a young squad.
Monaghan in the Ulster Championship proved they were not making up the numbers.
And I expected no less today even when they went well behind.
The Media will stay away from Mayo and the Kobe hype will flatten.
Moran knows where his problems lie - not that he did not know before today.
Congrats to Aido on making his 100th Championship appearance. Some servant!
Would you not be more worried after that game than before it? As far as scheduling advantages go, there is none bigger than a team getting a 5 week break, and being lambasted by local and national media, going up against a team with a 2 week break coming off a gut wrenching extra time loss in a huge game.
It was all absolutely set up for Mayo today and the first half completely proved that, they looked lovely and had a bit of bite, kicked some great two pointers and it was coupled with Monaghan looking way off it. However that second half was insane. Had Monaghan taken any further of their 8 goal chances the result would've been different. And throw in the point that was flagged wide wrongly. You can't put all the difference in performance in the second half down to a mid strength wind.
Today shouldve been Mayo at their very best given that layoff and time to prep. Maybe that is their best, but if it is then that's exceptionally worrying for everyone
Mayo came into this game from a thumping from Roscommon in the Connacht-Semi.
Monaghan came into todays game after a really good Ulster Championship, bringing a really good Armagh to extra time in the Ulster Final.
Monaghan have proven this Summer to have real bite in them coming into the closing stages of matches.
This is not the Mayo team circa 2012-2017. This bunch are no where near that group Mentally, Physically or Skill wise.
This is probably Mayo at their best in their current guise. To expect more at this stage of their development is bordering on delusional.
Part of the drop off the 2nd half was subbing players who are not fully back from knocks - it's called chancing your arm that we'll see out the game and giving these guys a chance to recuperate for the next tasks ahead. The wind had a small bearing and the point waved wide - these things happen. You can't blame anyone for human error. As for the rest, Mayo got for 5 weeks - Would not playing competitive games make you sharper during that period. I know Andy let a few lads go back to play with their clubs to fill the void.
Derry and Armagh could not beat this bunch in normal time - and both had sizable leads against Monaghan going into the home strait. To belittle Mayo's win by a slender margin is a touch disrespectful to this Monaghan side - they are no handy pushovers in Championship.
To be fair I'd much rather the stern test Mayo got from Monaghan today than the feeble test Galway got from Kildare in Salthill. Which was nothing more than a training game run out.
Cliche but you can never ever write that Monaghan team off. Any win against them whatever way it comes is a good result. Only for a hoodoo on umpteen goal chances, a clear point given wide and their main threat suffering a freak injury they quite possibly win that game.
Again and again in the last 4 years it's been shown that the team off the big break has an advantage. Monaghan in 2023 going to Derry and drawing when Derry won the same game easy in Ulster. Mayo beating Kerry by 6 in Killarney. Westmeath running Armagh to a point in Armagh. Cavan beating Mayo. Tyrone beating Donegal in Ballybofey last year. Louth beating Dublin today. Donegal hammering Kerry in Killarney. All inferior teams (or at least outsiders) beating or going close to the supposed better opposition away from home
There's loads more examples. Again and again it's been proven that the team coming off a layoff with a point to prove has a massive advantage over the team coming off a provincial final and a short break. And that's not even to say Mayo are inferior to Monaghan, I think most people would rate them as a superior group. So it was really all perfect for Mayo. They had 2 challenges in recent weeks also
It's not all gloom obviously. Kobe looks sensational for as long as he stays. That's RODs first great championship performance in a while coming off a nightmare 2025. The keeper obviously had a dream debut. It's just all the more odd how they finished it hanging on, especially in context of the ridiculous amount of Monaghan chances missed
I don't get your point - Mayo won the game today against very good opposition. If we had lost it would not have been shameful either. Monaghan are a good side.
Monaghan had 2 weeks to prepare for this - not 6 days. Two weeks is a decent amount of time to get over the disappointment of losing an Ulster Final (which is an important title up there), recovering from minor knocks and refocusing the group.
There is no gloom with this Mayo side - they are a decent bunch who will give most a decent game - but they are not world beaters. The expectation has lowered and that's no harm. The Manager and this group need space to develop.
Kobe is a short term fix, He will be gone in the Winter and he is making the correct decision. The financial rewards for players in the GAA are poor.
Are next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 31, 2026, 08:57:39 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 07:49:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Up there in the Uk with his kings money and taxes he pays :-)
Get a grip, man
Is it a bank holiday in the South tomorrow? Children off school and been given an extra hour of internet time?
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 31, 2026, 10:11:55 PMAre next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
No, first out has home advantage.
Didn't think that Monaghan 'point' was clear cut at all. You can't tell from the TV angle when it actually came in, it might have already gone wide by then.
Just seeing the slowmo there now it seemed to go outside the post.
Quote from: Tubberman on May 31, 2026, 10:24:29 PMDidn't think that Monaghan 'point' was clear cut at all. You can't tell from the TV angle when it actually came in, it might have already gone wide by then.
it was clearly over. Its a really poor call
Quote from: straightred on May 31, 2026, 10:27:17 PMQuote from: Tubberman on May 31, 2026, 10:24:29 PMDidn't think that Monaghan 'point' was clear cut at all. You can't tell from the TV angle when it actually came in, it might have already gone wide by then.
it was clearly over. Its a really poor call
Clearly it wasn't clearly over.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 10:19:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 31, 2026, 10:11:55 PMAre next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
No, first out has home advantage.
You think that morón is credible, worthy of a response?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2026, 10:26:23 PMJust seeing the slowmo there now it seemed to go outside the post.
It could be wide alright. The youtube highlights are up RTE sport channel. Set it to 5m35s and 0.25x speed. Linesman likely would have seen it.
Commentary is amusing slowed down.
Shame about McCaul he had some impact.
Plenty of options for the draw. I hope it's kind to us
Quote from: Main Street on May 31, 2026, 10:34:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 10:19:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 31, 2026, 10:11:55 PMAre next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
No, first out has home advantage.
You think that morón is credible, worthy of a response?
Quote from: Main Street on May 31, 2026, 10:34:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 10:19:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 31, 2026, 10:11:55 PMAre next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
No, first out has home advantage.
You think that morón is credible, worthy of a response?
smart, I have both ignored, just two of ten aliases
Quote from: joemamas on June 01, 2026, 12:11:38 AMQuote from: Main Street on May 31, 2026, 10:34:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 10:19:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 31, 2026, 10:11:55 PMAre next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
No, first out has home advantage.
You think that morón is credible, worthy of a response?
Quote from: Main Street on May 31, 2026, 10:34:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 10:19:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on May 31, 2026, 10:11:55 PMAre next round matches all neutral venues? Will the gaa try and cram as many as poss into Cromer?
No, first out has home advantage.
You think that morón is credible, worthy of a response?
smart, I have both ignored, just two of ten aliases
IT is probably some lost Tyrone soul, lost in a dead end civil service job of sorts, achieved 1% of one time ambition which was already at rock bottom, never ventured far from birth place, no courage to do so, maybe made it to London one summer and acquired an allegiance to Spurs or Arsenal like some losers do in order to fit in. Cor blimey mate. Ended up a total failure but rails against the dying of their light.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2026, 08:12:22 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
Disgraceful comment
Ha you have the colour jersey anyway
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:55:15 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 07:49:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Up there in the Uk with his kings money and taxes he pays :-)
Ah, I get it now, you're just a dick..
Your points and views on things carry absolutely no weight with comments like that
Yes they do. You don't get to say what does and does not carry weight ya window licker
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 01, 2026, 07:29:34 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:55:15 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 07:49:29 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 07:38:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:22:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on May 31, 2026, 06:12:42 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 06:08:57 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2026, 05:49:11 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on May 31, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMayo Coldrick
Wise up
The ref had absolutely no bearing on that game
Just the few shoves on Monaghan players in the box, the free at the end.
The point by McCaul waved wide.
David Cuntrick
Youre crying about shoves? What do you think this is, golf?
Back to your cricket lad up there in UK. Or maybe marching
The umpire called the wide ffs! Brainless
The shoves! My god.
Followed by some shite about watching cricket up there? Where's up there?
Up there in the Uk with his kings money and taxes he pays :-)
Ah, I get it now, you're just a dick..
Your points and views on things carry absolutely no weight with comments like that
Yes they do. You don't get to say what does and does not carry weight ya window licker
Are you a child off school for the bank holiday or an adult thats had a few to many drinks or lines for the bank holiday or just a p***k in general?
Talking about the box sounds like UK talk to me ;D
When is the draw for the next round?
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2026, 08:43:22 AMTalking about the box sounds like UK talk to me ;D
When is the draw for the next round?
Half 8 tomorrow morning on rte radio1
Thanks
"The participants for Rounds 2A and 2B of the All-Ireland SFC have been confirmed following Sunday's action, with the draw to take place on Tuesday morning on RTÉ Radio 1's Morning Ireland.
The draw will take place after the news at approximately 8.30am "
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2026, 09:07:08 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2026, 09:01:15 AMThanks
We're preparing for a trip to Killarney 😬
Will blow the horn on our way past heading to Donegal....
Armagh most likely get Galway or Donegal...Think we've played Galway 3 outta 4 years but certainly feels like that anyway. Can Donegal be drawn away to Iran and wire Trump off...
Quote from: illdecide on June 01, 2026, 10:53:19 AMArmagh most likely get Galway or Donegal...Think we've played Galway 3 outta 4 years but certainly feels like that anyway. Can Donegal be drawn away to Iran and wire Trump off...
Have a notion its gonna be Cork
Has the draw happened yet? Thought it was early this morning
Quote from: tintin25 on June 01, 2026, 11:35:02 AMHas the draw happened yet? Thought it was early this morning
Tomorrow morning, presume it wasn't done today because it's a bank holiday
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2026, 11:41:12 AMQuote from: tintin25 on June 01, 2026, 11:35:02 AMHas the draw happened yet? Thought it was early this morning
Tomorrow morning, presume it wasn't done today because it's a bank holiday
No one to warm the Kerry and Cavan Kildare balls and the Armagh and Donegal/Galway balls until tomorrow :D.
This series does feel very distinct from the Provincials. Very little correlation.
Will Armagh regret those extra games, whilst a rested Mayo or Tyrone see the major benefits of having 5 weeks off.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 01, 2026, 12:05:46 PMThis series does feel very distinct from the Provincials. Very little correlation.
Will Armagh regret those extra games, whilst a rested Mayo or Tyrone see the major benefits of having 5 weeks off.
Hopefully the first round was the banana skin for provincial finalists as the other teams had a month to laser focus on their next opponent. Only concern for Armagh would be likes of Murnins injury if its a pull rather than a cramp his year could be over but I suppose that could have happened him in training either.
When this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2026, 11:41:12 AMQuote from: tintin25 on June 01, 2026, 11:35:02 AMHas the draw happened yet? Thought it was early this morning
Tomorrow morning, presume it wasn't done today because it's a bank holiday
You'd really struggle to understand the gaa thinking on draws. First they draw round one before the provincials to give teams more time to know their opposition and then they delay the round 2 draw by a day (when the time before the next game is actually tight and counties and players have real logistics to get get in place).
Straight after the mayo game was the obvious time to have it, would have allowed for chat on the Sunday game when the agenda was light and give teams that extra couple of days. Baffling...
Quote from: onefineday on June 01, 2026, 12:29:45 PMQuote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2026, 11:41:12 AMQuote from: tintin25 on June 01, 2026, 11:35:02 AMHas the draw happened yet? Thought it was early this morning
Tomorrow morning, presume it wasn't done today because it's a bank holiday
You'd really struggle to understand the gaa thinking on draws. First they draw round one before the provincials to give teams more time to know their opposition and then they delay the round 2 draw by a day (when the time before the next game is actually tight and counties and players have real logistics to get get in place).
Straight after the mayo game was the obvious time to have it, would have allowed for chat on the Sunday game when the agenda was light and give teams that extra couple of days. Baffling...
Yeah either that or on the Sunday Game itself last night. No point expecting the GAA to use common sense though!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
If the provincials are to have meaning, there has to be more incentive, tweaks will be needed.
Maybe provincial champions are guaranteed home draws until the semi-finals?
I'm not sure I'd give provincial losers anything beyond a home draw in round one - that'd see a real prize for the winner!
I'd also maybe have the team with the higher league placing as the home team in all games (excepting provincial winners).
And quarter finals need not be played at Croker, but at a nominated venue for the 'home team' (home if minimum capacity allows).
Quote from: onefineday on June 01, 2026, 12:36:27 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
If the provincials are to have meaning, there has to be more incentive, tweaks will be needed.
Maybe provincial champions are guaranteed home draws until the semi-finals?
I'm not sure I'd give provincial losers anything beyond a home draw in round one - that'd see a real prize for the winner!
I'd also maybe have the team with the higher league placing as the home team in all games (excepting provincial winners).
And quarter finals need not be played at Croker, but at a nominated venue for the 'home team' (home if minimum capacity allows).
Like the sound of that except for Kerry getting a home quarter final every year!
No danger of the Quarter Finals being moved from Croker.
The old *Qualifier system was more rewarding to Provincial winners but we dumped that by 90%- 10%.
We dumped its replacement by a similar margin 2 years later.
* It also saved teams having 5 or 6 weeks gaps between games.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2026, 12:49:16 PMQuote from: onefineday on June 01, 2026, 12:36:27 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
If the provincials are to have meaning, there has to be more incentive, tweaks will be needed.
Maybe provincial champions are guaranteed home draws until the semi-finals?
I'm not sure I'd give provincial losers anything beyond a home draw in round one - that'd see a real prize for the winner!
I'd also maybe have the team with the higher league placing as the home team in all games (excepting provincial winners).
And quarter finals need not be played at Croker, but at a nominated venue for the 'home team' (home if minimum capacity allows).
Like the sound of that except for Kerry getting a home quarter final every year!
Croke Park more suited to Kerry than Killarney anyway
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2026, 12:49:16 PMQuote from: onefineday on June 01, 2026, 12:36:27 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
If the provincials are to have meaning, there has to be more incentive, tweaks will be needed.
Maybe provincial champions are guaranteed home draws until the semi-finals?
I'm not sure I'd give provincial losers anything beyond a home draw in round one - that'd see a real prize for the winner!
I'd also maybe have the team with the higher league placing as the home team in all games (excepting provincial winners).
And quarter finals need not be played at Croker, but at a nominated venue for the 'home team' (home if minimum capacity allows).
Like the sound of that except for Kerry getting a home quarter final every year!
I know, that was a consideration, but as we now know, they're not actually that unbeatable when playing at home to half decent opposition. The whole talk before the Donegal game was that they'd lost once since 1995 at home in championship football. Now it could be said that they've lost twice in 4 years, when mayo and Donegal came to town!!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
Yes - there has to be a prize for winning a provincial
How about the 4 provincial winners get a bye to the quarter final
The 8 non provincial finalists playoff against each other
The winners of these playoffs play the beaten provincial finalists giving you the other 4 quarter finalists.
Less games but every single game is knockout
Less onerous on players
Quote from: straightred on June 01, 2026, 01:05:41 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
Yes - there has to be a prize for winning a provincial
How about the 4 provincial winners get a bye to the quarter final
The 8 non provincial finalists playoff against each other
The winners of these playoffs play the beaten provincial finalists giving you the other 4 quarter finalists.
Less games but every single game is knockout
Less onerous on players
Yeah thats what I suggested here last week. Probably goes back to the question of are you better playing games or coming in off a long break, Kerry could potentially get their first competitive game of the year in a QF knock out against Donegal or Galway if that was in this year.
Quote from: straightred on June 01, 2026, 01:05:41 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 12:28:26 PMWhen this system was devised and then voted on the Provincials seemed to be dying, apart from Ulster.
Dublin won something like 21 of the previous 22 while Kerry had won around 15 out of 16.
Few wanted rewards for Provincial Champions as it would give Kerry and Dublin a soft path.
Of course then Dublin went back to the pack, Cork improved and now Connacht had 3 good teams.
Big crowds at Finals last year and this.
Time for tweaks or yet another new system?
Yes - there has to be a prize for winning a provincial
How about the 4 provincial winners get a bye to the quarter final
The 8 non provincial finalists playoff against each other
The winners of these playoffs play the beaten provincial finalists giving you the other 4 quarter finalists.
Less games but every single game is knockout
Less onerous on players
We had that in 2022 but 90% voted against it.
How about -
Provincial winners straight to 2A.
8 non Provincial Finalists play Prelim Round , losers to 2B.
Winners play Provincial Finalists in Round 1.Winners to 2A, losers to 2B.
There is nothing wrong with the present system. When you reward Provincial winners you create a easy pathway in the AI series from an easy pathway in Munster for Kerry. It's worth the sacrifice of an open draw. Just to see them have a bit of hardship.
The AI series is a different competition now. And should be embraced as such.
If All-Ireland series is a different competition to provincial (which it is), it should go straight from league into All-Ireland series. Top 16 is known and just go with that for All-Ireland series and seed it.
That was a thrilling weekend of action. Football is really flourishing under the new rules.
Westmeath got the job done. That's the bottom line at the end of 90 minutes. We've abandoned the traditional 70 minutes, seemingly preferring to string teams along to outlast them in marathon tests of resolve. One former player joked that the lads are having so much fun in this campaign that they don't want to come off the pitch until they have no choice 😀.
It was important to back up the provincial title with further progress. The one slight regret from 2004 was the poor quarter final.
The game itself was compelling. It must be acknowledged from the outset that the weather had a major impact. The wind grew stronger as the game wore on and culminated in a heavy downpour in extra time.
Cavan had the benefit of the wind for the second half of the game and the first period of extra time. They won each period by six points. Westmeath had the elements aiding them for the first half and the final period of extra time. They won the first half by six points and scored 1-07 without reply in the last half of extra time.
Westmeath didn't manage to sustain their previous levels of accuracy or intensity. The post-provincial final slump was evident. The concession of three goals was symptomatic of a slight drop in standards. Crucially we did have periods of cohesion which kept things on track. The critical point was that the errors didn't seem to dampen the belief or willingness to dig really deep to find a way.
We started the second period of extra time six points in arrears. We had lost the previous 45 minutes by 12 points. It was lashing rain but the gale was at our backs. We immediately went after two pointers. The first effort sailed wide but then Senan Baker hit the target. Wallace followed up immediately with another and there was only one outcome possible then. The crowd knew it too and the place was bouncing. John Heslin drew a superb save from Brady as he sought to kill the game. The reprieve was temporary as Heslin atoned for his profligacy by picking Casey's pocket and set Kelly and O'Sullivan off to do the rest.
There was an element of 'walking wounded' about the team at the end. Tadhg Baker, Daniel Scahill and Shane Allen were all carrying knocks as the game progressed. Whittaker limped off again and will need a long rest when the season ends. Brian Cooney and Conor Dillon were utterly spent when they came ashore.
Shane Ormsby also cried off beforehand, I felt we missed him during the second half.
Cavan were especially well served by Emmanuel Shehu and Paddy Lynch from the outset. Conor Casey and Darragh Lovett were inspired off the bench and McVeety also showed his class. Shehu is a really exciting player. McCabe had them well prepared and their kick-out routines were very effective. They also sought to slow down play and defuse Westmeaths propensity for cavalry charge attacks. The long period to prepare was evident. They were undone by a few errors and offered up turnovers which hurt them at times.
Westmeath's season now extends to a sixth and seventh match, at least. The hill gets much steeper now.
Armagh showed their credential once again. They're on the march and kept Derry at arms length. Louth reignited their 2025 spirit while Mayo got over the line. Monaghan need to work out how to play for 70 minutes. They are superb when the get going. Their inconsistency is stalling a team with a high ceiling. Both Cavan and Monaghan could do with a kind draw to refocus. Louth will not fear anybody now. Dublin have a lot to think about. They're having a tough time. I think they would benefit from a few more supporters turning up.
Tomorrow morning it all starts again.
Quote from: Iarmhí Abú on June 01, 2026, 04:01:18 PMThat was a thrilling weekend of action. Football is really flourishing under the new rules.
It is also helped by the fact that Dublin have fallen back to the pack (or should i say fallen to the middle of the pack. And Kerry are looking venerable this year.
I don't know about the format yet as the season hasn't been played out. For Monaghan I have not known a season where there have been so many players injured since the start of the year. Had there been a replay in the Ulster final, both finalists would've had to play 3 games in 2 weeks. It's also possible that there be a 2 week stretch later on where teams may well have to play 3 games. Even counties with a large pool of quality players such as Kerry and Dublin are struggling, the Canavan kids are also out. I don't know how other squads are bearing out. That ruling on provincial replays has to be seriously questioned and a minimum 2 weeks between rounds. Player welfare needs to be given more consideration than more punters through the turnstiles.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 01, 2026, 04:23:10 PMQuote from: Iarmhí Abú on June 01, 2026, 04:01:18 PMThat was a thrilling weekend of action. Football is really flourishing under the new rules.
It is also helped by the fact that Dublin have fallen back to the pack (or should i say fallen to the middle of the pack. And Kerry are looking venerable this year.
Venerable or vulnerable?
three of the eight All-Ireland SFC Round 2 games on Saturday and Sunday week will not be shown live.
It is GAA+'s intention to stream three games while RTÉ are set to shown two on Sunday, 1pm and 3.30pm throw-ins. The early games are due to RTÉ's World Cup coverage of Germany and Netherland games that evening.
GAA+ will again have first call on the plum fixtures providing there are no requests from counties to play on Sunday.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 08:03:04 PMthree of the eight All-Ireland SFC Round 2 games on Saturday and Sunday week will not be shown live.
It is GAA+'s intention to stream three games while RTÉ are set to shown two on Sunday, 1pm and 3.30pm throw-ins. The early games are due to RTÉ's World Cup coverage of Germany and Netherland games that evening.
GAA+ will again have first call on the plum fixtures providing there are no requests from counties to play on Sunday.
Can think of one team that might want a Sunday game!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2026, 08:03:04 PMthree of the eight All-Ireland SFC Round 2 games on Saturday and Sunday week will not be shown live.
Why determine this in advance?
There are two issues here, GAA+ should provide a service as well as try and make money. Cork and Tyrone could play and geography makes it challenging for supporters to get to such a game, but GAA+ might not regard it as the most attractive fixture of the round and might not bother covering it. Other games could have a small capacity and people could be locked out, Donegal may play in Letterkenny, although GAA+ will probably cover Donegal regardless. But where will Louth play if at "home"?
The CCCCC will have their hands full with this draw.
And the CCCC?
Some interesting games - most would maybe have clear favourites though.
Derry Meath hardest to call for me.
(Maybe Tyrone Mayo hard to call too)
Derry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghan v Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Dublin and Kerry be happy enough, as will Galway and Donegal. Would have preferred a home draw for us, where will Louth play their home game?
They wouldn't fit the armagh crowd into their home ground.
Quote from: maddog on June 02, 2026, 08:43:10 AMDerry v Meath - Meath. Meath's biggest weakness is teams running at them and Derry don't.
Kildare V Kerry Kerry.
Cavan v Dublin Dublin
Monaghan v Roscommon Roscommon
Donegal v Cork Donegal
Galway v Westmeath Galway
Tyrone v Mayo Tyrone though hard to know if something in Mayo.
Louth v Armagh You'd expect Armagh though maybe potential for an upset too. I think Louth better than rest of Ulster bar Donegal.
Interesting draw for Tyrone after being well beaten by Mayo in Omagh this time last year. Hopefully the management and players will have learned from then.
Derry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Kerry and Dublin will be happy enough in the other section especially Kerry. They couldn't have asked for a handier draw.
Quote from: tyroneStatto on June 02, 2026, 08:47:46 AMKerry and Dublin will be happy enough in the other section especially Kerry. They couldn't have asked for a handier draw.
Warmed balls for sure lol
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:46:38 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Can't see Monaghan beating Roscommon.
Quote from: maddog on June 02, 2026, 08:43:10 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghan v Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
2A should be wins for Donegal, Galway, Armagh. Tyrone v Mayo 50/50
In 2B
Derry v Meath and Monaghan v Roscommon 50/50
Kerry and Dublin couldn't hand pick better draws.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:48:23 AMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 02, 2026, 08:47:46 AMKerry and Dublin will be happy enough in the other section especially Kerry. They couldn't have asked for a handier draw.
Warmed balls for sure lol
If Kerry were playing Kildare at home and Dublin were playing Cavan at home those games would surely be handier?
Cork with the toughest draw - having to play Donegal away, good chance the crowd will be 90%+ Donegal supporters.
It will be interesting to see if there is much of a difference between the do-or-die games down the closing stretch versus the games with a 2nd chance.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2026, 08:50:47 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:46:38 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Can't see Monaghan beating Roscommon.
Not so sure about that. Monaghan are sticky hoors, home game and nothing to lose
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2026, 08:50:47 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:46:38 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Can't see Monaghan beating Roscommon.
Probably not but if they played for 70 minutes instead of 25 they've a chance. Even Tyrone beat the Rossies sure ;)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 02, 2026, 08:59:24 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2026, 08:50:47 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:46:38 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Can't see Monaghan beating Roscommon.
Not so sure about that. Monaghan are sticky hoors, home game and nothing to lose
I definitely wouldn't be ruling them out at this stage.
The only team I would be confident about having a less than 10% chance is Cork.
Would take some freakish performances to see them beating Donegal in Doneagl.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:48:23 AMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 02, 2026, 08:47:46 AMKerry and Dublin will be happy enough in the other section especially Kerry. They couldn't have asked for a handier draw.
Warmed balls for sure lol
If Kerry were playing Kildare at home and Dublin were playing Cavan at home those games would surely be handier?
Cork with the toughest draw - having to play Donegal away, good chance the crowd will be 90%+ Donegal supporters.
It will be interesting to see if there is much of a difference between the do-or-die games down the closing stretch versus the games with a 2nd chance.
Couldn't make it too obvious ;)
Donegal, Galway and Armagh probably all happy enough to avoid each other and the first 2 with a home draw. Cork are a funny team, could cause problems for Donegal but Donegal will have enough. Westmeath a dangerous team, some unreal forwards but looking at the damage Cavan did to them defensively Walsh and Finnerty will have a field day. Westmeath on basically a free hit though having another chance and having already exceeded all expectations for the year.
Louth a serious side with big men and Mulroy and Lennon are 2 of the best players in the country when they're on it. Probably man marking jobs for Joe McElroy and either McKay or Murphy.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 09:04:15 AMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 02, 2026, 08:59:24 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2026, 08:50:47 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:46:38 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Can't see Monaghan beating Roscommon.
Not so sure about that. Monaghan are sticky hoors, home game and nothing to lose
I definitely wouldn't be ruling them out at this stage.
The only team I would be confident about having a less than 10% chance is Cork.
Would take some freakish performances to see them beating Donegal in Doneagl.
Well Down did it so anything is possible! Expect McCole to lock down Sherlock and Cork to have no answers, something similar to when they play Kerry.
when will fixture details be confirmed?
That's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Back in the early 1970's I remember my Dad saying about Armagh "we couldn't even beat Louth". Different times now.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 02, 2026, 09:13:31 AMwhen will fixture details be confirmed?
Only 5 of the games are to be televised with 2 on RTE and 3 on GAA+ so will be interesting to see what 3 games lose out.
The TV times will be a key factor on the fixture details.
Louth v Armagh will be where you reckon? Newry would be a shout, maybe Navan, Louth's call. What's the capacity of Inniskeen?
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 09:11:52 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:48:23 AMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 02, 2026, 08:47:46 AMKerry and Dublin will be happy enough in the other section especially Kerry. They couldn't have asked for a handier draw.
Warmed balls for sure lol
If Kerry were playing Kildare at home and Dublin were playing Cavan at home those games would surely be handier?
Cork with the toughest draw - having to play Donegal away, good chance the crowd will be 90%+ Donegal supporters.
It will be interesting to see if there is much of a difference between the do-or-die games down the closing stretch versus the games with a 2nd chance.
Couldn't make it too obvious ;)
Donegal, Galway and Armagh probably all happy enough to avoid each other and the first 2 with a home draw. Cork are a funny team, could cause problems for Donegal but Donegal will have enough. Westmeath a dangerous team, some unreal forwards but looking at the damage Cavan did to them defensively Walsh and Finnerty will have a field day. Westmeath on basically a free hit though having another chance and having already exceeded all expectations for the year.
Louth a serious side with big men and Mulroy and Lennon are 2 of the best players in the country when they're on it. Probably man marking jobs for Joe McElroy and either McKay or Murphy.
Mulroy plays alot deeper so I don't expect McKay or Murphy to track him. I would personally put TK on him and put him on backfoot especially if Mulroy still carrying an injury.
Quote from: balladmaker on June 02, 2026, 09:21:52 AMLouth v Armagh will be where you reckon? Newry would be a shout, maybe Navan, Louth's call. What's the capacity of Iniskeen?
That would make logistical sense and would be close to a sell out you would think.
Not unhappy with the draw, didn't want any other Ulster team and a home game so I'm content enough with that. A Dubs team, at home, that has lost to Westmeath and Louth pitches them not a million miles off our level, pressure's all on the opponent and we'll be heavy underdogs which is always a great refuge for the mentally frail team we are. Can't see us winning though. To do that we'd need to be about 7/8 up on 65 minutes, because anything less we'd probably crater under pressure and get reeled in, and although there were signs of life v Westmeath in some respects, the Dubs are a different kettle of fish. Hopefully we get some learnings and maybe leave the season with something to build on.
Quote from: balladmaker on June 02, 2026, 09:21:52 AMLouth v Armagh will be where you reckon? Newry would be a shout
It won't be Drogheda or Navan as both are out of operation.
Beyond that it's tough to say as there will likely be some back room discussions.
What chance a
Newbridge Ardee or nowhere campaign?
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2026, 08:50:47 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:46:38 AMDerry v Meath
Kildare V Kerry
Cavan v Dublin
Monaghanv Roscommon
Donegal v Cork
Galway v Westmeath
Tyrone v Mayo
Louth v Armagh
Derry Meath and Tyrone Mayo hard to call and obviously you never know with Monaghan, Cavan a potential banana skin for Dublin if they can bring what the did in patches last week. Nice handy for Kerry again to get back up to speed...
Can't see Monaghan beating Roscommon.
I think Monaghan Roscommon is a hard one to call. Wouldn't rule out extra time. Would be interesting to see where the Roscommon camp is after the Tyrone loss.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 09:25:07 AMQuote from: balladmaker on June 02, 2026, 09:21:52 AMLouth v Armagh will be where you reckon? Newry would be a shout
It won't be Drogheda or Navan as both are out of operation.
Beyond that it's tough to say as there will likely be some back room discussions.
What chance a Newbridge Ardee or nowhere campaign?
What is the capacity in Ardee?
2500 i think
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 09:17:28 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 02, 2026, 09:13:31 AMwhen will fixture details be confirmed?
Only 5 of the games are to be televised with 2 on RTE and 3 on GAA+ so will be interesting to see what 3 games lose out.
The TV times will be a key factor on the fixture details.
Louth v Armagh, Rossies v Monaghan, Tyrone v Mayo, Derry v Meath would be four most intriguing ties for me, but hard to see Kerry, Galway, Donegal and Dublin not being shown though. Have a feeling Monaghan and Roscommon miss out which has the potential to be the best game of the lot especially with loser going out.
Quote from: statto on June 02, 2026, 09:22:50 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 09:11:52 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 08:55:40 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 08:48:23 AMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 02, 2026, 08:47:46 AMKerry and Dublin will be happy enough in the other section especially Kerry. They couldn't have asked for a handier draw.
Warmed balls for sure lol
If Kerry were playing Kildare at home and Dublin were playing Cavan at home those games would surely be handier?
Cork with the toughest draw - having to play Donegal away, good chance the crowd will be 90%+ Donegal supporters.
It will be interesting to see if there is much of a difference between the do-or-die games down the closing stretch versus the games with a 2nd chance.
Couldn't make it too obvious ;)
Donegal, Galway and Armagh probably all happy enough to avoid each other and the first 2 with a home draw. Cork are a funny team, could cause problems for Donegal but Donegal will have enough. Westmeath a dangerous team, some unreal forwards but looking at the damage Cavan did to them defensively Walsh and Finnerty will have a field day. Westmeath on basically a free hit though having another chance and having already exceeded all expectations for the year.
Louth a serious side with big men and Mulroy and Lennon are 2 of the best players in the country when they're on it. Probably man marking jobs for Joe McElroy and either McKay or Murphy.
Mulroy plays alot deeper so I don't expect McKay or Murphy to track him. I would personally put TK on him and put him on backfoot especially if Mulroy still carrying an injury.
Murphy tracked Sean O'Shea out the field in the league game, yeah TK an option as well.
Quote from: jb77 on June 02, 2026, 09:30:48 AM2500 i think
Non runner then as we've something like 3500 season ticket holders, would Louth have many?
Isn't it stated in Rules now that venues have to be approved by CCCC?
To appease Dublin, I expect the GAA to give them the later date which will give them Ger Brennan back.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2026, 09:44:23 AMIsn't it stated in Rules now that venues have to be approved by CCCC?
Not sure, just remember the shit show in Corrigan last year with the tiny capacity.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 09:37:58 AMQuote from: jb77 on June 02, 2026, 09:30:48 AM2500 i think
Non runner then as we've something like 3500 season ticket holders, would Louth have many?
Yeah this was an issue last year with Antrim too - not sure what happened the season ticket holders in that instance.
If I was Louth, I'd definitely want it in Ardee. A really tight pitch which will help them curtail Armagh runs.
I think this will be a really good game - Louth still being underestimated imo. Armagh rightly favourites, but a Louth victory wouldn't be that surprising.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 02, 2026, 09:58:56 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 09:37:58 AMQuote from: jb77 on June 02, 2026, 09:30:48 AM2500 i think
Non runner then as we've something like 3500 season ticket holders, would Louth have many?
Yeah this was an issue last year with Antrim too - not sure what happened the season ticket holders in that instance.
If I was Louth, I'd definitely want it in Ardee. A really tight pitch which will help them curtail Armagh runs.
I think this will be a really good game - Louth still being underestimated imo. Armagh rightly favourites, but a Louth victory wouldn't be that surprising.
Apparently it's going to be in Iniskeen.
(https://i.ibb.co/FLt4gQRf/Screenshot-20260602-095654-Firefox.jpg)
Bookies have it three coin tosses and five formalities.
I'd have it two coin tosses, with Derry a sure thing over Meath.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 10:00:21 AM(https://i.ibb.co/FLt4gQRf/Screenshot-20260602-095654-Firefox.jpg)
Bookies have it three coin tosses and five formalities.
I'd have it two coin tosses, with Derry a sure thing over Meath.
Derry looked awful the other night, depends which Meath turn up I suppose the one that beat Dublin, Kerry, Galway and won division 2 or the one that folded against Donegal, Westmeath, Cork etc.
It's a long run for the Cork fans from Castletownbere heading to Letterkenny.
Who would Slab Murphy be rooting for in Louth vs Armagh?
Quote from: jb77 on June 02, 2026, 10:33:12 AMWho would Slab Murphy be rooting for in Louth vs Armagh?
Depends what side of the bed he wakes up on
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 09:45:06 AMTo appease Dublin, I expect the GAA to give them the later date which will give them Ger Brennan back.
Should really put them down to play Saturday for the craic.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 02, 2026, 10:26:53 AMIt's a long run for the Cork fans from Castletownbere heading to Letterkenny.
It will only be the ultra-die-hards who travel ; will be doing very well if more than a thousand Cork supporters travel. Would guess it would be nearer the 500 mark.
QuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
It's funny, for what it's worth it's a kinder draw for Dublin. But they are so bad at the moment I could foresee a Cavan scalp. But even if they don't, we are just waiting for a bigger name to finish us off.
Derry v Meath - Gonna go for Derry here, they have good players but haven't clicked and in wrong positions.
Kildare V Kerry - Kerry to win handy enough
Cavan v Dublin - Dublin to win this one handy enough, they will have seige mentality over managers ban.
Monaghan v Roscommon - Gonna stick my neck out here and go for Monaghan who have been improving game on game.
Donegal v Cork - Donegal to win but this game might be closer than some think.
Galway v Westmeath - Galway to win this one and my tips for the All Ireland.
Tyrone v Mayo - Again, i'm gonna go for the neighbours here and say Tyrone to win this one.
Louth v Armagh - As an Armagh man I'm gonna say Armagh by 4-5pts but where this game is played will have a factor too, Louth are a good side and will not be easy beaten. I'm not 100% sure who haas the say on the venue but it would be class if it was Newry but I doubt that very much, Do you know what grounds are currently closed atm in Louth and neighbouring Counties?. Is Navan closed? Droheda closed?. Is there nothing in Dundalk?
Quote from: statto on June 02, 2026, 09:32:43 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 02, 2026, 09:17:28 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 02, 2026, 09:13:31 AMwhen will fixture details be confirmed?
Only 5 of the games are to be televised with 2 on RTE and 3 on GAA+ so will be interesting to see what 3 games lose out.
The TV times will be a key factor on the fixture details.
Louth v Armagh, Rossies v Monaghan, Tyrone v Mayo, Derry v Meath would be four most intriguing ties for me, but hard to see Kerry, Galway, Donegal and Dublin not being shown though. Have a feeling Monaghan and Roscommon miss out which has the potential to be the best game of the lot especially with loser going out.
The five chosen should be
Monaghan v Roscommon
Tyrone v Mayo
Donegal v Cork
Derry v Meath
Louth v Armagh
Galway,Kerry and maybe Dublin will be the next round and will get live coverage.
Quote from: illdecide on June 02, 2026, 11:07:36 AMDerry v Meath - Gonna go for Derry here, they have good players but haven't clicked and in wrong positions.
Kildare V Kerry - Kerry to win handy enough
Cavan v Dublin - Dublin to win this one handy enough, they will have seige mentality over managers ban.
Monaghan v Roscommon - Gonna stick my neck out here and go for Monaghan who have been improving game on game.
Donegal v Cork - Donegal to win but this game might be closer than some think.
Galway v Westmeath - Galway to win this one and my tips for the All Ireland.
Tyrone v Mayo - Again, i'm gonna go for the neighbours here and say Tyrone to win this one.
Louth v Armagh - As an Armagh man I'm gonna say Armagh by 4-5pts but where this game is played will have a factor too, Louth are a good side and will not be easy beaten. I'm not 100% sure who haas the say on the venue but it would be class if it was Newry but I doubt that very much, Do you know what grounds are currently closed atm in Louth and neighbouring Counties?. Is Navan closed? Droheda closed?. Is there nothing in Dundalk?
Brennan has been banned for a number of weeks now and there hasn't been much siege about Dublin to date. They should have enough to get over Cavan but can't see them going past a quarter final.
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on June 02, 2026, 11:00:48 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
It's funny, for what it's worth it's a kinder draw for Dublin. But they are so bad at the moment I could foresee a Cavan scalp. But even if they don't, we are just waiting for a bigger name to finish us off.
Dublin seem to go bad game good game bad game good game, so maybe they'll get a kick this time against a poor enough Cavan side.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 11:14:19 AMQuote from: JollyGreenGiant on June 02, 2026, 11:00:48 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
It's funny, for what it's worth it's a kinder draw for Dublin. But they are so bad at the moment I could foresee a Cavan scalp. But even if they don't, we are just waiting for a bigger name to finish us off.
Dublin seem to go bad game good game bad game good game, so maybe they'll get a kick this time against a poor enough Cavan side.
Possibly. But even if all the absent players return, I think the damage is done. Not only do I think the side isn't good enough, I think there is a lack of visible hunger amongst the senior players, a lack of mental strength across the team, and without Brennan it looks like there is little strategy.
I'm now scratching my head as to how Louth lost so badly in Portlaoise earlier in the summer. It's as though they stepped off players like Scully and Dublin managed the arc very well.
I think I'll take my 82 year old Cavan friend to the game in Breffni. I would say Longford will be out to pasture by then, so I will be looking around for attractive 'neutral' games.
I think it will be a great game. If Cavan cannot get a rise out of the Dubs coming to town, then they may as well concentrate on hurling or the wimmin.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 09:50:13 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2026, 09:44:23 AMIsn't it stated in Rules now that venues have to be approved by CCCC?
Not sure, just remember the shit show in Corrigan last year with the tiny capacity.
The Ulster Championship hadn't any requirement for venues being deemed suitable.
Neither had the AI series before the Newbridge or nowhere saga.
I presume Monaghan will stick with Clones for our game??
Quote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2026, 11:28:56 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 09:50:13 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2026, 09:44:23 AMIsn't it stated in Rules now that venues have to be approved by CCCC?
Not sure, just remember the shit show in Corrigan last year with the tiny capacity.
The Ulster Championship hadn't any requirement for venues being deemed suitable.
Neither had the AI series before the Newbridge or nowhere saga.
I presume Monaghan will stick with Clones for our game??
Monaghan will play in Clones yes.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Ideally from an Armagh pov- Galway and Donegal win and go to QF's and one of those draw Kerry. Or do you want to face a Donegal/Galway who have played a (hopefully) tough round 3 game the week before
If Meath put in the same shite performances as we did in our two games so far then we're heading home. Have to find another level of intensity. It's not the league. Need to bring championship levels now. Do or die. If we have a half time lead we need to go even harder in the second half.
A fairly shite draw. Only 3 of those matches will be a contest.
One more round til the blockbuster days out. A few of these games will be great.
Armagh Louth derby could be interesting
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 02, 2026, 12:35:34 PMOne more round til the blockbuster days out. A few of these games will be great.
Armagh Louth derby could be interesting
Looking forward to that one. We used a get out of jail card against them in the league a couple of years ago.
Quote from: thejuice on June 02, 2026, 12:31:02 PMIf Meath put in the same shite performances as we did in our two games so far then we're heading home. Have to find another level of intensity. It's not the league. Need to bring championship levels now. Do or die. If we have a half time lead we need to go even harder in the second half.
That is exactly the same for us. Be an interesting game to see which teams show up. Just happy we have home advantage which I hope we can make count for something.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 12:17:03 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Ideally from an Armagh pov- Galway and Donegal win and go to QF's and one of those draw Kerry. Or do you want to face a Donegal/Galway who have played a (hopefully) tough round 3 game the week before
I am open to correction, but is it not avoid repeat pairings where possible moving forward? In that case Kerry would play Armagh/Louth, Westmeath/Galway or Mayo/Tyrone as have played both Donegal/Cork already.
The Paddy Power odds ignore the throw in times as not confirmed yet
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The potential upsets mini shocks?
Cavan given that Dublin are off the back of defeat to Louth and Westmeath
Meath more free scoring and ability to to score two pointers. Already beat Derry this year.
Monaghan home advantage knock out football is made for them. The rossies need to be prepared for a big battle
Mayo maybe did beat Tyrone in Omagh last year but that was with Rochford stepping in and having Mayo righly set up defensively. Under Moran he doesn't seem capable or cares about the teams defensive duties.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 02, 2026, 01:40:36 PMThe Paddy Power odds ignore the throw in times as not confirmed yet
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The potential upsets mini shocks?
Cavan given that Dublin are off the back of defeat to Louth and Westmeath
Meath more free scoring and ability to to score two pointers. Already beat Derry this year.
Monaghan home advantage knock out football is made for them. The rossies need to be prepared for a big battle
Mayo maybe did beat Tyrone in Omagh last year but that was with Rochford stepping in and having Mayo righly set up defensively. Under Moran he doesn't seem capable or cares about the teams defensive duties.
I'd love if we could but think that's poor odds on us. An angry Dublin running up a core is probably a better bet.
Dublin @-7 or -9 handicap should give much better odds than that and better value overall.
Quote from: statto on June 02, 2026, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 12:17:03 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Ideally from an Armagh pov- Galway and Donegal win and go to QF's and one of those draw Kerry. Or do you want to face a Donegal/Galway who have played a (hopefully) tough round 3 game the week before
I am open to correction, but is it not avoid repeat pairings where possible moving forward? In that case Kerry would play Armagh/Louth, Westmeath/Galway or Mayo/Tyrone as have played both Donegal/Cork already.
Ah you could be right. Hopefully Galway Kerry quarter final so! Or Cork/Westmeath pull an upset and Galway Donegal meet in a quarter final :D
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 02, 2026, 01:49:10 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on June 02, 2026, 01:40:36 PMThe Paddy Power odds ignore the throw in times as not confirmed yet
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The potential upsets mini shocks?
Cavan given that Dublin are off the back of defeat to Louth and Westmeath
Meath more free scoring and ability to to score two pointers. Already beat Derry this year.
Monaghan home advantage knock out football is made for them. The rossies need to be prepared for a big battle
Mayo maybe did beat Tyrone in Omagh last year but that was with Rochford stepping in and having Mayo righly set up defensively. Under Moran he doesn't seem capable or cares about the teams defensive duties.
I'd love if we could but think that's poor odds on us. An angry Dublin running up a core is probably a better bet.
Dublin @-7 or -9 handicap should give much better odds than that and better value overall.
If Dublin are 2/5 to win game outright the handicap will be 4/5 points.
A very boring draw I thought in comparison to the round 1 draw. Fewer unpredictable matches I feel and knock out effect of a poor enough round 3 draw I feel too.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 02, 2026, 02:22:46 PMA very boring draw I thought in comparison to the round 1 draw. Fewer unpredictable matches I feel and knock out effect of a poor enough round 3 draw I feel too.
Draw wasn't great but at same time could be setup for some fantastic knock out games in quarter finals.
Could potentially have Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Tyrone straight through to quarter finals playing Roscommon, Kerry, Meath, Mayo in knock out games.
Quote from: statto on June 02, 2026, 02:27:21 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 02, 2026, 02:22:46 PMA very boring draw I thought in comparison to the round 1 draw. Fewer unpredictable matches I feel and knock out effect of a poor enough round 3 draw I feel too.
Draw wasn't great but at same time could be setup for some fantastic knock out games in quarter finals.
Could potentially have one have Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Tyrone straight through to quarter finals playing Roscommon, Kerry, Meath, Mayo in knock out games.
Hopefully set up for good competitive quarter finals
Derry have a good chance of reaching the quarter finals if they can avoid Tyrone/Mayo in the next game. That would be a successful season by Derry's standards now.
Quote from: statto on June 02, 2026, 02:20:20 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 02, 2026, 01:49:10 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on June 02, 2026, 01:40:36 PMThe Paddy Power odds ignore the throw in times as not confirmed yet
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The potential upsets mini shocks?
Cavan given that Dublin are off the back of defeat to Louth and Westmeath
Meath more free scoring and ability to to score two pointers. Already beat Derry this year.
Monaghan home advantage knock out football is made for them. The rossies need to be prepared for a big battle
Mayo maybe did beat Tyrone in Omagh last year but that was with Rochford stepping in and having Mayo righly set up defensively. Under Moran he doesn't seem capable or cares about the teams defensive duties.
I'd love if we could but think that's poor odds on us. An angry Dublin running up a core is probably a better bet.
Dublin @-7 or -9 handicap should give much better odds than that and better value overall.
If Dublin are 2/5 to win game outright the handicap will be 4/5 points.
My bet: Monaghan, Derry, Cavan +4, Cork+8, Westmeath +6
Tyrone v Mayo the standout draw.
I'd love to see young McDonald get the chance to play in Croker with space in front of him. Unreal talent who will be missed.
Sounds like the Connacht and Leinster Counties should concede now.
4 Ulster semi finalists
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on June 02, 2026, 02:49:48 PMDerry have a good chance of reaching the quarter finals if they can avoid Tyrone/Mayo in the next game. That would be a successful season by Derry's standards now.
Getting ahead of yourself there.
There's the small matter of Meath in the way - who already beat us comfortably in the league, and our form is far from good.
I agree though, if we got to a quarter final, that would be a success given how the year has went so far.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 02, 2026, 03:41:43 PMQuote from: Norm-Peterson on June 02, 2026, 02:49:48 PMDerry have a good chance of reaching the quarter finals if they can avoid Tyrone/Mayo in the next game. That would be a successful season by Derry's standards now.
Getting ahead of yourself there.
There's the small matter of Meath in the way - who already beat us comfortably in the league, and our form is far from good.
I agree though, if we got to a quarter final, that would be a success given how the year has went so far.
Would still have to beat a decent team from the round 2a losers section even if they do beat Meath. Don't see Derry getting it handy against any of those 7 teams. (Assume they can't meet Armagh again if we're beat)
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 03:47:40 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 02, 2026, 03:41:43 PMQuote from: Norm-Peterson on June 02, 2026, 02:49:48 PMDerry have a good chance of reaching the quarter finals if they can avoid Tyrone/Mayo in the next game. That would be a successful season by Derry's standards now.
Getting ahead of yourself there.
There's the small matter of Meath in the way - who already beat us comfortably in the league, and our form is far from good.
I agree though, if we got to a quarter final, that would be a success given how the year has went so far.
Would still have to beat a decent team from the round 2a losers section even if they do beat Meath. Don't see Derry getting it handy against any of those 7 teams. (Assume they can't meet Armagh again if we're beat)
Yep. Would be a tough ask on current form - we need to improve to get over Meath and at the minute I wouldn't be thinking any further ahead than that.
Derry in croke park. I would have been fairly confident. Derry away is a whole different story.
Hope rather than optimism.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Just gloss over getting Donegal in the last round.🤣
Quote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2026, 03:49:12 PMThey can
Not to the final unless impossible to avoid
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 05:27:08 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Just gloss over getting Donegal in the last round.🤣
Well they probably can't meet them again to the final so maybe cute heurism with that too?
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 05:27:08 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Just gloss over getting Donegal in the last round.🤣
It wasn't a knockout round though
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 05:55:35 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 05:27:08 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 11:54:04 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2026, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 02, 2026, 10:56:45 AMQuoteThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
Wouldn't rule out Cavan beating Dublin
Dublin won't be winning no All Ireland anyway , so I wouldn't worry. Kerry handy draw though as usual
As usual?
Got Donegal last time.
The two previous championship draws, they got Tyrone in 2025 semi, and the then reigning All-Ireland Champions Armagh in 2025 1/4s.
If you're getting to a semi final, odds are you'll meet a top 4 or 5 team
Kerry didn't draw Armagh last year. Kerry were the only team Armagh COULD get as they'd played every one else previously
Just gloss over getting Donegal in the last round.🤣
It wasn't a knockout round though
Kildare this round with their most likely opponent should they win to be Westmeath and their second most likely opponent to be Louth I am sure that they arent complaining about this draw at all.
Listening to Spillane and Clerkin on the indo there, some yapping done about the draw! Not sure what blockbuster games they're looking at this stage ffs Kerry can't play Donegal every week
Quote from: David McKeown on June 02, 2026, 02:22:46 PMA very boring draw I thought in comparison to the round 1 draw. Fewer unpredictable matches I feel and knock out effect of a poor enough round 3 draw I feel too.
Any draw that pits unusual matches is good for me. I hope don't do an Antrim and play the match in a tiny stadium. Their own fans will suffer too.
Quote from: Orior on June 02, 2026, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 02, 2026, 02:22:46 PMA very boring draw I thought in comparison to the round 1 draw. Fewer unpredictable matches I feel and knock out effect of a poor enough round 3 draw I feel too.
Any draw that pits unusual matches is good for me. I hope don't do an Antrim and play the match in a tiny stadium. Their own fans will suffer too.
The whole point of this new format was to increase jeopardy I am not sure that has really happened.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2026, 04:35:32 PMDerry in croke park. I would have been fairly confident. Derry away is a whole different story.
Hope rather than optimism.
We've won one championship game in 10 years in Celtic park and that was v Antrim this year. I wouldn't be so pessimistic if I was a Meath fan.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2026, 09:15:48 AMThat's Dublin and Kerry looked after as expected.
Tough enoigh one for us but the type of game you need to be winning to be an AI contender.
"Looked after"?
Galway were in everyone's Tier 1, but losing their star defender to the Big Brother reality show will impact their coverage in that area.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 02, 2026, 06:51:22 PMQuote from: Orior on June 02, 2026, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 02, 2026, 02:22:46 PMA very boring draw I thought in comparison to the round 1 draw. Fewer unpredictable matches I feel and knock out effect of a poor enough round 3 draw I feel too.
Any draw that pits unusual matches is good for me. I hope don't do an Antrim and play the match in a tiny stadium. Their own fans will suffer too.
The whole point of this new format was to increase jeopardy I am not sure that has really happened.
Meath Derry- jeopardy for both, Roscommon-Monaghan- both teams would see themselves as well able to make a quarter final, one is going out this round, Wesmeath, Louth and Cavan all have a decent punchers chance of making a quarter final/taking out a big gun. If Cork don't shite the bed the ability is there to give Donegal their fill of it (alright won't hold my breath there) Tyrone and Mayo could be another cracker.
Even at the weekend there, Dublin Louth and Cavan Westmeath- hardly 2 games that would get the neutrals drooling on paper- none of the four likely All Ireland contenders but it turned out to be 2 crackers that went down to the wire. Plenty of excitement to look forward to over next couple of months.
Star defender lol
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 02, 2026, 09:18:32 PMGalway were in everyone's Tier 1, but losing their star defender to the Big Brother reality show will impact their coverage in that area.
Ah they're definitely up there. Tipping away nicely in the background with most people tipping Donegal to win it and Kerry with a good chance fitness dependent
Why not Louth in Parnell PK or even Croke PK?
Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2026, 11:57:47 PMWhy not Louth in Parnell PK or even Croke PK?
Didn't Louth play a home game against Wexford in Carlow in the quarter final of the Leinster championship?
Wouldn't be surprised to see it played in Offaly or Portlaoise, I can't see Louth agreeing to anywhere that's convenient for Armagh (Clones or Newry), nor should they.
Quote from: ranch on June 03, 2026, 06:45:58 AMQuote from: Main Street on June 02, 2026, 11:57:47 PMWhy not Louth in Parnell PK or even Croke PK?
Didn't Louth play a home game against Wexford in Carlow in the quarter final of the Leinster championship?
Wouldn't be surprised to see it played in Offaly or Portlaoise, I can't see Louth agreeing to anywhere that's convenient for Armagh (Clones or Newry), nor should they.
They played in Iniskeen I think?
Quote from: marty34 on June 03, 2026, 07:11:12 AMQuote from: ranch on June 03, 2026, 06:45:58 AMQuote from: Main Street on June 02, 2026, 11:57:47 PMWhy not Louth in Parnell PK or even Croke PK?
Didn't Louth play a home game against Wexford in Carlow in the quarter final of the Leinster championship?
Wouldn't be surprised to see it played in Offaly or Portlaoise, I can't see Louth agreeing to anywhere that's convenient for Armagh (Clones or Newry), nor should they.
They played in Iniskeen I think?
They have done so in the past. Their game this year against Wexford was in Carlow though.
Will the times and venues be announced today?
Would have thought would done this yesterday afternoon, given that a day was lost due to the bank holiday on Monday.
Quote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:13:44 AMWill the times and venues be announced today?
Would have thought would done this yesterday afternoon, given that a day was lost due to the bank holiday on Monday.
Bit of back and forward with Louth and the GAA, apparently Louth want Inniskeen, GAA were looking Croker.
Quote from: ranch on June 03, 2026, 06:45:58 AMQuote from: Main Street on June 02, 2026, 11:57:47 PMWhy not Louth in Parnell PK or even Croke PK?
Didn't Louth play a home game against Wexford in Carlow in the quarter final of the Leinster championship?
Wouldn't be surprised to see it played in Offaly or Portlaoise, I can't see Louth agreeing to anywhere that's convenient for Armagh (Clones or Newry), nor should they.
I expect that Louth playing in Carlow reflected the wishes of the Leinster council rather than Louth being free to pick wherever they liked.
Tullamore or Portlaoise are equally inconvenient for Louth people.
Good old Carrick-on-Shannon could be an option as it is in a different province altogether.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2026, 11:46:08 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 02, 2026, 09:18:32 PMGalway were in everyone's Tier 1, but losing their star defender to the Big Brother reality show will impact their coverage in that area.
Ah they're definitely up there. Tipping away nicely in the background with most people tipping Donegal to win it and Kerry with a good chance fitness dependent
With Comer being available again too they are getting stronger. Many had them as favourites the year Armagh won, and without the injuries they would likely have went on to win it. They seem stronger now than for that final so I wouldn't bet against them.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:13:44 AMWill the times and venues be announced today?
Would have thought would done this yesterday afternoon, given that a day was lost due to the bank holiday on Monday.
Bit of back and forward with Louth and the GAA, apparently Louth want Inniskeen, GAA were looking Croker.
If Dublin where drew at home then there could have been an argument for Croker as part of a double header not for a standalone game maybe get 20,000 at a push. Louth are just right to dig heels in.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 03, 2026, 09:44:33 AMQuote from: ranch on June 03, 2026, 06:45:58 AMQuote from: Main Street on June 02, 2026, 11:57:47 PMWhy not Louth in Parnell PK or even Croke PK?
Didn't Louth play a home game against Wexford in Carlow in the quarter final of the Leinster championship?
Wouldn't be surprised to see it played in Offaly or Portlaoise, I can't see Louth agreeing to anywhere that's convenient for Armagh (Clones or Newry), nor should they.
I expect that Louth playing in Carlow reflected the wishes of the Leinster council rather than Louth being free to pick wherever they liked.
Tullamore or Portlaoise are equally inconvenient for Louth people.
Good old Carrick-on-Shannon could be an option as it is in a different province altogether.
Great weekends craic sure why not.
Quote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:58:29 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:13:44 AMWill the times and venues be announced today?
Would have thought would done this yesterday afternoon, given that a day was lost due to the bank holiday on Monday.
Bit of back and forward with Louth and the GAA, apparently Louth want Inniskeen, GAA were looking Croker.
If Dublin where drew at home then there could have been an argument for Croker as part of a double header not for a standalone game maybe get 20,000 at a push. Louth are just right to dig heels in.
It isn't an either/or. The game could be played in Cavan or Newry.
Digging your heels in to prevent GAA people attending GAA games is in no way a virtue.
They should have thought about this before now. There was always a chance that this would arise and there was also a chance that Monaghan could have played Louth which would have drawn a big crowd also.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 03, 2026, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:58:29 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:13:44 AMWill the times and venues be announced today?
Would have thought would done this yesterday afternoon, given that a day was lost due to the bank holiday on Monday.
Bit of back and forward with Louth and the GAA, apparently Louth want Inniskeen, GAA were looking Croker.
If Dublin where drew at home then there could have been an argument for Croker as part of a double header not for a standalone game maybe get 20,000 at a push. Louth are just right to dig heels in.
It isn't an either/or. The game could be played in Cavan or Newry.
Digging your heels in to prevent GAA people attending GAA games is in no way a virtue.
They should have thought about this before now. There was always a chance that this would arise and there was also a chance that Monaghan could have played Louth which would have drawn a big crowd also.
Don't see the value in bringing Louth and Armagh fans to Croke Park when it will be at most a quarter full and in a dead atmosphere.
Louth have been drawn at home and precedent is set they should be allowed to select the venue. Armagh players would have as much experience of playing in Newry down the years, while it is probably the most suitable venue logistically it probably doesn't suit Louth to play there.
Quote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 11:39:26 AMQuote from: armaghniac on June 03, 2026, 11:33:35 AMQuote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:58:29 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: statto on June 03, 2026, 09:13:44 AMWill the times and venues be announced today?
Would have thought would done this yesterday afternoon, given that a day was lost due to the bank holiday on Monday.
Bit of back and forward with Louth and the GAA, apparently Louth want Inniskeen, GAA were looking Croker.
If Dublin where drew at home then there could have been an argument for Croker as part of a double header not for a standalone game maybe get 20,000 at a push. Louth are just right to dig heels in.
It isn't an either/or. The game could be played in Cavan or Newry.
Digging your heels in to prevent GAA people attending GAA games is in no way a virtue.
They should have thought about this before now. There was always a chance that this would arise and there was also a chance that Monaghan could have played Louth which would have drawn a big crowd also.
Don't see the value in bringing Louth and Armagh fans to Croke Park when it will be at most a quarter full and in a dead atmosphere.
Louth have been drawn at home and precedent is set they should be allowed to select the venue. Armagh players would have as much experience of playing in Newry down the years, while it is probably the most suitable venue logistically it probably doesn't suit Louth to play there.
Yeah a double header if Meath or Dublin had been drawn at home would probably have been ideal but don't think you'd any more than 30k for just the one game. Newry or Clones handiest obviously but Armagh have played in both plenty over the years so Louth likely want a smaller venue.
Very tough draw for Westmeath, only Donegal away would have been tougher. What is in our favour is that I expect to see a much improved performance the next day. We passed up numerous goal chances against Cavan and looked flat at times compared to our performances in Leinster. What is reassuring is that we upped it in the second half of extra time when we were 6 down and ended up suffocating Cavan. When we start to get some joy on kickouts or in general play the surge spreads like wildfire through the team. If we are within touching difference with 15 minutes to go in Salthill anything can happen. A result down there against one of the favourites for the All Ireland would easily be in the top 10 victories in our history. More importantly it would get us back to the quarter finals for the first time since 2006, which was secured with a 1 point win in Salthill (exceptional performances from Healy and Keane on Joyce and Meehan that evening). The 2 weeks break to the quarter finals is also badly needed as you'd fear for us with Round 3 squeezed in a week later what with all the extra times and all the knocks and injuries.
Really enjoying this new format. It has been some championship so far, great to see the football being the talk of the country again. I am expecting Mayo and Tyrone to be a cracker. Louth will take some beating at home too, although I feel Armagh are sitting very nicely for the championship
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2026, 04:35:32 PMDerry in croke park. I would have been fairly confident. Derry away is a whole different story.
Hope rather than optimism.
Robbie needs to find a new trick up his sleeve. I think our lads got a bit too comfortable playing a particular way in the league and thought they could just roll it into the championship. Not happening. Defensively we need to up the intensity massively. Rafferty needs to show some of the qualities that got him an All Star last season.
It'll be in an interesting battle in the middle. Hopefully we have Flynn and Jones fully fit for that. The 3 week gap hopefully enough for Kinsella to get to 100%, same for Costello.
I know we wont change keepers at this stage but kick outs need a serious look at. We looked like it was panic stations every time.
Conlon should start again and not subbed off needlessly like last week.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 02, 2026, 09:18:32 PMGalway were in everyone's Tier 1, but losing their star defender to the Big Brother reality show will impact their coverage in that area.
If things go bad v Westmeath, the Galway sporting fraternity will vote him off Love Island so that's he free to return.
Saturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
To correct myself I was wrong. Was expecting Donegal v Cork over Galway v Westmeath.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
To correct myself I was wrong. Was expecting Donegal v Cork over Galway v Westmeath.
I think where travel is almost infeasible for one set of supporters that they should put it on GAA+. Why not? Cork are not the best supported, but thousands would still watch it. There are probably many Cork subscribers for GAA+ owing to the hurling.
Neither the venues nor the coverage of this round show the GAA in a good light.
Quote from: Mario on June 02, 2026, 06:55:23 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2026, 04:35:32 PMDerry in croke park. I would have been fairly confident. Derry away is a whole different story.
Hope rather than optimism.
We've won one championship game in 10 years in Celtic park and that was v Antrim this year. I wouldn't be so pessimistic if I was a Meath fan.
More to do with the idea that this Meath team is made for croke park. Using it as home venue etc. don't think they thought they'd be in the road as much. And so I believe it's a huge handicap to them. Ie they don't seem to play as well away from Croke park.
But as I say. I live in hope
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2026, 12:05:41 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2026, 04:35:32 PMDerry in croke park. I would have been fairly confident. Derry away is a whole different story.
Hope rather than optimism.
Robbie needs to find a new trick up his sleeve. I think our lads got a bit too comfortable playing a particular way in the league and thought they could just roll it into the championship. Not happening. Defensively we need to up the intensity massively. Rafferty needs to show some of the qualities that got him an All Star last season.
It'll be in an interesting battle in the middle. Hopefully we have Flynn and Jones fully fit for that. The 3 week gap hopefully enough for Kinsella to get to 100%, same for Costello.
I know we wont change keepers at this stage but kick outs need a serious look at. We looked like it was panic stations every time.
Conlon should start again and not subbed off needlessly like last week.
I agree wholeheartedly. I am actually beginning to wonder what kernan is bringing to the table.
Do the four 2A winners go to one side of the quarter final draw and then play the four come through the other side, or is it a open draw for all 8 teams?
Quote from: pbat on June 03, 2026, 09:40:20 PMDo the four 2A winners go to one side of the quarter final draw and then play the four come through the other side, or is it a open draw for all 8 teams?
2a winners on one side as far as I know. Avoid repeat pairs so no Kerry Donegal if both through etc
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 09:44:00 PMQuote from: pbat on June 03, 2026, 09:40:20 PMDo the four 2A winners go to one side of the quarter final draw and then play the four come through the other side, or is it a open draw for all 8 teams?
2a winners on one side as far as I know. Avoid repeat pairs so no Kerry Donegal if both through etc
Which increases the chances of Kerry playing the other three, which will hopefully include Armagh.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
I agree with whoever said it's a poor enough draw, to my mind there's no real blockbuster clash and contrary to your read on it, I think Donegal, Galway and Kerry will win pulling up, Dublin could easily do likewise and similarly Armagh, but the venues do give a wee bit of a chance to the home teams, particularly Louth.
That leaves 3 games which are hard to call and they truly are hard to call, but none of the six involved are top tier contenders, so hopefully good games, but not blockbusters. Of those three games, I'd say the rossies are probably the safest call, but it could go either way too.
Re the TV coverage, I'm glad that common sense has prevailed and the three least appetising clashes have been the three casualties.
Been some great games to date, let's hope this year's championship doesn't peter out like last year's, where the games from quarter finals stage on were largely non-events.
Quote from: onefineday on June 04, 2026, 01:59:12 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
I agree with whoever said it's a poor enough draw, to my mind there's no real blockbuster clash and contrary to your read on it, I think Donegal, Galway and Kerry will win pulling up, Dublin could easily do likewise and similarly Armagh, but the venues do give a wee bit of a chance to the home teams, particularly Louth.
That leaves 3 games which are hard to call and they truly are hard to call, but none of the six involved are top tier contenders, so hopefully good games, but not blockbusters. Of those three games, I'd say the rossies are probably the safest call, but it could go either way too.
Re the TV coverage, I'm glad that common sense has prevailed and the three least appetising clashes have been the three casualties.
Been some great games to date, let's hope this year's championship doesn't peter out like last year's, where the games from quarter finals stage on were largely non-events.
Realistically we're at the last 16 stage and there'll always be mismatches, hopefully from the last 12 on games should be more exciting, naturally not every team can be a contender but like the Cavan/Westmeath can still be good games. Again I think Westmeath will give Galway their fill of it but probably fall short in the end. All teams bar Kildare have at least a punchers chance I would say.
With the Cork and Dublin games it depends which version turn up, if Cork are at it they'll cause Donegal hassle and make a game of it, if not it'll be a 10 plus point hammering, if Dublin are on it they'll beat Cavan easily but if they aren't Cavan again will give them hassle. Potential for Kerry to meet Galway/Armagh in a quarter final which would be properly blockbuster.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2026, 08:31:06 AMQuote from: onefineday on June 04, 2026, 01:59:12 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
I agree with whoever said it's a poor enough draw, to my mind there's no real blockbuster clash and contrary to your read on it, I think Donegal, Galway and Kerry will win pulling up, Dublin could easily do likewise and similarly Armagh, but the venues do give a wee bit of a chance to the home teams, particularly Louth.
That leaves 3 games which are hard to call and they truly are hard to call, but none of the six involved are top tier contenders, so hopefully good games, but not blockbusters. Of those three games, I'd say the rossies are probably the safest call, but it could go either way too.
Re the TV coverage, I'm glad that common sense has prevailed and the three least appetising clashes have been the three casualties.
Been some great games to date, let's hope this year's championship doesn't peter out like last year's, where the games from quarter finals stage on were largely non-events.
Realistically we're at the last 16 stage and there'll always be mismatches, hopefully from the last 12 on games should be more exciting, naturally not every team can be a contender but like the Cavan/Westmeath can still be good games. Again I think Westmeath will give Galway their fill of it but probably fall short in the end. All teams bar Kildare have at least a punchers chance I would say.
With the Cork and Dublin games it depends which version turn up, if Cork are at it they'll cause Donegal hassle and make a game of it, if not it'll be a 10 plus point hammering, if Dublin are on it they'll beat Cavan easily but if they aren't Cavan again will give them hassle. Potential for Kerry to meet Galway/Armagh in a quarter final which would be properly blockbuster.
In a weird way its probably better to get kerry sooner rather than later as they get lads healthier with more fitness and sharpness with each week. Depends on how bad the injuries are. Gavin white had a setback? He dropped out of squad for donegal but came on in munster final. Hes very short on football this year.
Not sure if a round 3 away to tyrone, roscommon or mayo/ monaghan is going to help or hinder them at this stage. Kerry armagh quarter final would be juicy alright
Is Round 3 open draw for home advantage or do the 2A losers get it?
Quote from: JB3456 on June 04, 2026, 03:48:47 PMIs Round 3 open draw for home advantage or do the 2A losers get it?
Open
how do they decide who has home advantage, assuming there are 2 bowls for 2A and 2B?
Quote from: JB3456 on June 04, 2026, 04:18:07 PMhow do they decide who has home advantage, assuming there are 2 bowls for 2A and 2B?
Good question!
Neutral venues the preferable option?
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2026, 04:19:02 PMQuote from: JB3456 on June 04, 2026, 04:18:07 PMhow do they decide who has home advantage, assuming there are 2 bowls for 2A and 2B?
Good question!
Neutral venues the preferable option?
"Round 3 (Four Games)
20-21.06.2026 (Sat/Sun)
The four losing teams from Round 2a will be drawn to play the four winning teams from
Round 2b, and a draw shall determine the Home Venue for each pairing.
The draw will be subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final
pairings and, where possible, repeat pairings from Round 1."
Donegal v Cork has no tickets left on ticketmaster.
Quote from: downgael2065 on June 04, 2026, 11:49:47 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2026, 08:31:06 AMQuote from: onefineday on June 04, 2026, 01:59:12 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13
Round 2A
Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm
Round 2B
Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+
Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm
Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+
Sunday June 14
Round 2A
Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE
Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+
Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE
Round 2B
Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm
Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.
Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!
Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush
Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
I agree with whoever said it's a poor enough draw, to my mind there's no real blockbuster clash and contrary to your read on it, I think Donegal, Galway and Kerry will win pulling up, Dublin could easily do likewise and similarly Armagh, but the venues do give a wee bit of a chance to the home teams, particularly Louth.
That leaves 3 games which are hard to call and they truly are hard to call, but none of the six involved are top tier contenders, so hopefully good games, but not blockbusters. Of those three games, I'd say the rossies are probably the safest call, but it could go either way too.
Re the TV coverage, I'm glad that common sense has prevailed and the three least appetising clashes have been the three casualties.
Been some great games to date, let's hope this year's championship doesn't peter out like last year's, where the games from quarter finals stage on were largely non-events.
Realistically we're at the last 16 stage and there'll always be mismatches, hopefully from the last 12 on games should be more exciting, naturally not every team can be a contender but like the Cavan/Westmeath can still be good games. Again I think Westmeath will give Galway their fill of it but probably fall short in the end. All teams bar Kildare have at least a punchers chance I would say.
With the Cork and Dublin games it depends which version turn up, if Cork are at it they'll cause Donegal hassle and make a game of it, if not it'll be a 10 plus point hammering, if Dublin are on it they'll beat Cavan easily but if they aren't Cavan again will give them hassle. Potential for Kerry to meet Galway/Armagh in a quarter final which would be properly blockbuster.
In a weird way its probably better to get kerry sooner rather than later as they get lads healthier with more fitness and sharpness with each week. Depends on how bad the injuries are. Gavin white had a setback? He dropped out of squad for donegal but came on in munster final. Hes very short on football this year.
Not sure if a round 3 away to tyrone, roscommon or mayo/ monaghan is going to help or hinder them at this stage. Kerry armagh quarter final would be juicy alright
Statistically they are most likely to draw Westmeath in Round 3 and can't draw Monaghan or Roscommon.
From the anglocelt and one for Cavan posters on here to answer?
QuoteWhy have Cavan fans turned their back on the team?
The media have been commenting on it for a while now. The Donegal Democrat noted how muted the Cavan support was during the 2024 National League, while the Irish Independent remarked on the sparse travelling support which witnessed the win over Mayo in 2025. It is no longer something that can be dismissed as an isolated observation; it is a trend – Cavan now have a very small core support.
Now that's different, let's be clear, than a bandwagon, which were originally large wagons which carried musicians in circus parades in 19th-century America. Politicians later adopted the idea; successful candidates rode in parades with bands playing and, as momentum built behind them, supporters would literally climb aboard to associate themselves with the winner.
Every county has their own bandwagon which can be mobilised quite quickly. When Westmeath played Longford in the opening round of this year's Leinster Championship, only around 1,000 spectators attended. Yet last week, in a slightly comic twist, some Westmeath supporters were online pleading for tickets for their clash with Cavan, further evidence that success creates demand, as does even the hope of success – people just want to be part of something.
Cavan, however, find themselves in a slightly different situation than Westmeath because this is a county whose supporters were once recognised nationally as the most loyal in Ireland.
We've all experienced the madness of it all, when football grips us. In 1997, a newly married couple famously travelled from their wedding reception to Croke Park aboard Sean Quinn's helicopter for the All-Ireland semi-final against Kerry. Supporters of a certain vintage still talk about the traffic jam on the road to Longford for the 1988 All-Ireland U21 final, so severe that many supporters missed the first half altogether. The examples are endless.
Those stories have become part of local folklore because they represented something deeper than football. Following Cavan was simply what people did but it no longer is - lest we forget, a crowd of 625 turned up for the league match against Offaly this year.
Perhaps, in a strange way, 1997 – the highpoint of the last 55 years in terms of the football hysteria engendered in this county - lowered the bar. Cavan had been starved of success for so long that the breakthrough instantly carried almost mythical significance. Where once Cavan contested and won All-Irelands, now it was confirmed: winning an Ulster title was enough to immortalise players forever.
Yet the underlying anxiety about the county's football future, which had built up over the previous decades, never really disappeared. The ugly truth is that in footballing terms, Cavan has spent more than half a century in varying degrees of panic mode, always scrambling to recover something that has been lost.
The county's identity as a football powerhouse first came under serious pressure in the 1960s when we failed to reach an All-Ireland final for the first time since the 1910s. "Devastation," was how Garret O'Reilly, who played on two of the Ulster-winning teams, described his father TP's feelings at the end of that decade. TP was county chairman and an All-Ireland winner himself.
It got worse. The 1970s brought no Ulster title, something that would once have been considered unimaginable. The 1980s saw just one Ulster final appearance and then came seven years without a championship victory at all from 1988 onwards.
For a county whose sense of itself was built around football, it must have felt as though the world was spinning off its axis. But then, from nowhere, there was hope.
In 1995, Cavan defeated Antrim and Monaghan to reach an Ulster final. They lost to Tyrone but momentum was building. The following year, the U21s won Ulster and reached the All-Ireland final.
Around that time, The Anglo-Celt attended a training session ahead of a championship opener against Antrim in Casement Park. Manager Martin McHugh, a master at shaping narratives, spoke openly about the supporters.
"Appreciating that Cavan will have much bigger support at the game than Antrim, Martin voiced his appreciation and said the support from the Cavan fans has been great," the report noted.
"Since I came to Cavan," McHugh said, "it has been very enthusiastic as people say they are the best supporters in the country. Hopefully, if we do go behind at some stage, the support we have will lift the players."
As it turned out, 8,000 paid in in Belfast, although "the bulk came from Cavan" according to this paper. Euro '96, in England, was in full flow and was reckoned to have affected the attendance. By the next round against Down, however, more than 25,000 were present.
And then came '97, dropping from heaven like a gift. The delirium which followed is difficult to explain to younger supporters. Some players became almost deity-like figures, men who had delivered their people to the Promised Land after decades of waiting - but the panic still didn't subside.
There were bright spots, of course. We all remember those Wednesday nights, many of them in Brewster Park, when Cavan's U21 side conquered Ulster year after year. Between the 2010 Ulster final and the heartbreaking last-minute defeat to Donegal in Ballybofey in 2015, Cavan did not lose a single match in the province at U21 level.
Yet while the fingerprints of those players were all over many good days, overall, the promise was not fulfilled.
Since then, underage success has largely dried up. The U20s reached an Ulster final in 2022 and lost by a point to Tyrone, who went on to become All-Ireland champions. Aside from that, Cavan have rarely looked like genuine contenders at underage level despite the efforts that have gone into it.
Recently, a friend offered a familiar reassurance. "Cavan will be alright. There will always be footballers in Cavan," he said.
And there is logic to that argument. Gaelic football remains the dominant sporting and social pursuit in the county and there is no immediate threat to that position - but footballers alone are not enough.
The right culture is needed to develop them and the right structures are needed to maximise them. Most importantly, there must be an honest recognition of where the county actually stands.
A strategic plan covering 2025-30 set ambitious targets, including winning Ulster titles at minor, U20 and senior level within five years as well as a Lory Meagher Cup. Two years have now passed. Does anyone genuinely believe those targets are on course to be achieved?
Cavan increasingly resembles the sick patient who insists there is nothing wrong, refuses to visit the doctor and becomes angry at anyone who points out the symptoms.
How else can it be explained that across senior, U20, minor and club football, as well as hurling, counties of similar size such as Monaghan and Roscommon consistently outperform Cavan?
Supporters see these things - and perhaps that is where the attendance issue begins. In addition, there are more distractions than ever before and people now need to believe in something before they invest their time and money into it.
Dermot McCabe touched on this after the defeat to Westmeath in an interview with Off The Ball. He noted that Cavan supporters were out-numbered 10 to one but that the team gave them something to shout about. It was an important observation because it acknowledged a reality that many have been reluctant to confront which is that support cannot be demanded, it has to be earned.
When supporters see progress and sense momentum, they respond. It becomes a movement and the support itself actually sustains the journey, team and fans feeding off each other. At present, that feeling is entirely absent, although maybe the home draw against a vulnerable Dublin will change that.
McCabe, always articulate in interviews, sounded a surprisingly contented note after Saturday's defeat, perhaps because the eventual margin was not as severe as it might have been or maybe he saw improvement. Paddy Lynch, in his interview, called for an end to criticism of the manager, another remark that said plenty without saying everything.
Because if losing both McKenna Cup matches, five of seven league games and both championship fixtures, largely against teams Cavan had been beating in recent years, cannot prompt honest examination, then what can?
Everyone involved in Cavan football wants the same outcome, which is for the county to succeed, but accountability is not negativity and demanding standards is not disloyalty. The opposite is the case, in fact.
The gut feeling is the supporters are still there but the connection has been broken, long before this team or this manager or this county board were in place. The question now is whether the team can give them a reason to flock to the terraces again.
Let's be realistic - Cavan are never going to dominate Ulster football again but the cup must be refilled or eventually it runs dry. Right now, Cavan's is perilously low.
To win back the fans, Cavan must win matches. And, as last Saturday showed, that's not easy at all.
Sums up Cavan well at the moment.
QuoteCavan increasingly resembles the sick patient who insists there is nothing wrong, refuses to visit the doctor and becomes angry at anyone who points out the symptoms.
While ye're at it Tyrone's big following seems to have melted away in recent years.
Inconsistent team performances prob the biggest issue there. Takes a bit of a run to get the bandwagon into gear. That plus the cost, id say is having an impact on support.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2026, 12:49:24 PMWhile ye're at it Tyrone's big following seems to have melted away in recent years.
And there's tumbleweed blowing through Hill 16 these days.
20k tickets sold already for Galway v Westmeath looks like the home side will be outnumbered in support.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 05, 2026, 12:45:27 PMSums up Cavan well at the moment.
QuoteCavan increasingly resembles the sick patient who insists there is nothing wrong, refuses to visit the doctor and becomes angry at anyone who points out the symptoms.
The entered the Leinster Junior Inter County Championship for years, taking great delight in winning the All-Ireland Junior in 2014, same as their club scene, dying to waltz the All-Ireland Junior and novice club football and hurling scenes, looking the easy road, nothing sums Cavan up better
Will the AI QF's be at Croke Park or will there be home/away in those as well? Went to the Sunday double header last year and could be tempted again.
They'll be in Croke Park (once there's no boxing, rugger, concerts etc)
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 08, 2026, 05:46:07 PMWill the AI QF's be at Croke Park or will there be home/away in those as well? Went to the Sunday double header last year and could be tempted again.
All in Croke Park June 27th,28th and more than likely double headers each day.
The four winners in Round 2A will have a break week to rest and prepare for their Quarter final
Tougher schedule for the other 4 with playing three consecutive weekends in a row.
A pub in Donegal advertising this.
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Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 09, 2026, 04:10:54 PMA pub in Donegal advertising this.
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Some craic! Is there a streaming channel in Donegal that would cover club games etc? Should be allowed show this if so.
Where's 'Helen from Wales' when you need her?
Meath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year. Happened a few days ago at training.
Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury
Quote20k tickets sold already for Galway v Westmeath looks like the home side will be outnumbered in support.
It's now sold out on Ticketmaster. With a capacity of c.26k, I've heard there's an anticipated 15k travelling from Westmeath.
Quote from: Iarmhí Abú on June 09, 2026, 11:01:13 PMQuote20k tickets sold already for Galway v Westmeath looks like the home side will be outnumbered in support.
It's now sold out on Ticketmaster. With a capacity of c.26k, I've heard there's an anticipated 15k travelling from Westmeath.
18k trying to cross Galway, yous better leave early or hire a boat from Oranmore
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 09, 2026, 10:20:25 PMMeath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year. Happened a few days ago at training.
Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury
Big loss for Meath that.
Question for Monaghan lads or anyone else used to matches in Clones...
Where can you park on big match days?
I've only been there for League games when you can abandon car anywhere.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2026, 10:46:33 AMQuestion for Monaghan lads or anyone else used to matches in Clones...
Where can you park on big match days?
I've only been there for League games when you can abandon car anywhere.
Is this a big match day? after all it's only the Rossies coming to town :D
Clones, BIG and not so BIG matchday parking map (https://clones.gaa.ie/2026/05/01/match-day-parking/)
On the game itself, the short analysis is, history shows (for the most part) we get well beaten in Roscommon and we beat ye lot anyplace outside of Roscommon.
Big game for the Rossies, a lot of people had them as probably top 5 and a outside chance of an All Ireland or at least a semi final after a couple of very impressive wins in Connacht but now are facing down the barrel of not even getting to the last 12 and will need a big performance to beat a the most dogged resilient bunch of hoors ever to play football. Will definitely tune into the last 20 minutes of this one anyway!
Quote from: Main Street on June 10, 2026, 11:56:39 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2026, 10:46:33 AMQuestion for Monaghan lads or anyone else used to matches in Clones...
Where can you park on big match days?
I've only been there for League games when you can abandon car anywhere.
Is this a big match day? after all it's only the Rossies coming to town :D
Clones, BIG and not so BIG matchday parking map (https://clones.gaa.ie/2026/05/01/match-day-parking/)
On the game itself, the short analysis is, history shows (for the most part) we get well beaten in Roscommon and we beat ye lot anyplace outside of Roscommon.
First championship meeting between the two? Can't recall any before while plenty of league encounters.
Monaghan bucks fairly cocky it seems!!
Monaghan do push their luck, they've looked like they were going to get stuffed a few times, but it seems only a matter of time b4 they will get an actual hiding. If they dont have O'Hanlon & McAnespie back (along with McCaul's injury) it could be this weekend. I wouldn't bet the house on it tho.
Roscommon by 4
What is the story with McCaul's injury?
O'Hanlon a big loss for them. McAnespie decent but they can live without him.
Would agree with that synopsis. They will hit a day where McCarron etc have less impact. Question is if that is this weekend. I honestly don't think they'll win this one. Roscommon are a very good team.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2026, 02:40:05 PMWhat is the story with McCaul's injury?
O'Hanlon a big loss for them. McAnespie decent but they can live without him.
Would agree with that synopsis. They will hit a day where McCarron etc have less impact. Question is if that is this weekend. I honestly don't think they'll win this one. Roscommon are a very good team.
Poor fella did the cruciate.
Derry, ourselves and Mayo all should have beat Monaghan out the gate but failed to do so
Yeah but it's no coincidence 3 teams couldn't do it. Different story if it was a one off. You're in pattern territory there. If they continue this they will see a game out eventually.
Monaghan are the clear underdogs in this game no doubt about that, but the Rossies will have to overcome a lifetime record of losing to Monaghan outside of Roscommon.
Monaghan only had to play decent football for 10 or 15 minuted to overcome Derry and nearly buckle Armagh/Mayo, probably will need to play a bit better than that on saturday as the Rossies are looking ambitious and uppity.
Another Monday morning draw.
QuoteThe draw for Round 3 of the All-Ireland senior football championship will take place next Monday on RTÉ Radio 1's Morning Ireland programme.
The draw is scheduled to begin at 8.35am.
The four winning teams from Round 2B will be drawn to play the four losing teams from Round 2A. A subsequent draw will then determine home advantage.
The draw will be subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat provincial final pairings and where possible, repeat pairings from Round 1 of the All-Ireland series.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 10, 2026, 09:21:34 PMAnother Monday morning draw.
QuoteThe draw for Round 3 of the All-Ireland senior football championship will take place next Monday on RTÉ Radio 1's Morning Ireland programme.
The draw is scheduled to begin at 8.35am.
The four winning teams from Round 2B will be drawn to play the four losing teams from Round 2A. A subsequent draw will then determine home advantage.
The draw will be subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat provincial final pairings and where possible, repeat pairings from Round 1 of the All-Ireland series.
Fingers crossed we're not in the pot!
Quote from: Main Street on June 10, 2026, 05:30:14 PMMonaghan are the clear underdogs in this game no doubt about that, but the Rossies will have to overcome a lifetime record of losing to Monaghan outside of Roscommon.
Monaghan only had to play decent football for 10 or 15 minuted to overcome Derry and nearly buckle Armagh/Mayo, probably will need to play a bit better than that on saturday as the Rossies are looking ambitious and uppity.
I seem to remember Ros beating Monaghan in some league play off in Croker mid 90s?
Regardless, Ros do not have a good record in knockout championship football outside of Connaught since 1980 so that ceiling would need to be smashed v Monaghan.
Quote from: tallorder on June 11, 2026, 12:07:14 AMQuote from: Main Street on June 10, 2026, 05:30:14 PMMonaghan are the clear underdogs in this game no doubt about that, but the Rossies will have to overcome a lifetime record of losing to Monaghan outside of Roscommon.
Monaghan only had to play decent football for 10 or 15 minuted to overcome Derry and nearly buckle Armagh/Mayo, probably will need to play a bit better than that on saturday as the Rossies are looking ambitious and uppity.
I seem to remember Ros beating Monaghan in some league play off in Croker mid 90s?
Regardless, Ros do not have a good record in knockout championship football outside of Connaught since 1980 so that ceiling would need to be smashed v Monaghan.
False memory syndrome not that it matters much in this respect, Monaghan were beaten by Laois once or twice in the league in CP in the '90s, however, more importantly Connacht is spelled Connacht.
Quote from: statto on June 10, 2026, 08:21:45 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 09, 2026, 10:20:25 PMMeath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year. Happened a few days ago at training.
Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury
Big loss for Meath that.
Jordan Morris also a doubt too.
Very hard to see us win unless others step up their performance massively.
This is the perfect game for one of these two teams. Neither are playing with any confidence and need a win. If Derry play like they have done they won't win but they are bound to start playing more offensively - surely.
Good Morning All
Subs picks coming up..
Donegal V Cork Donegal get pipped by a swashbuckling Cork team
Galway V Westmeath Galway by 5+
Tyrone V Mayo Tyrone finally put a performance together to beat a bang average Mayo outfit
Louth V Armagh Louth have banned the sale of buckfast for 5 miles so crowd is dull & Armaghs shooting efficency finally catches up to them
Derry V Meath Forget about injuries Meath will swat away any hopes of a revival from Derry
Kildare V Kerry Yera Yera the Kingdom by at least a handful
Cavan V Dublin Dublin in dissaray will scrape by Cavan
Monaghan V Roscommon Monaghans age and overall form finally catch up in the AI
Quote from: thejuice on June 11, 2026, 07:29:25 AMQuote from: statto on June 10, 2026, 08:21:45 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 09, 2026, 10:20:25 PMMeath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year. Happened a few days ago at training.
Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury
Big loss for Meath that.
Jordan Morris also a doubt too.
Very hard to see us win unless others step up their performance massively.
If Meath go out on Saturday will Brennan still have support?
After last year beating Dublin/Galway the championship has been very uninspiring to date. Well beaten by Westmeath and couldn't beat a 14 man Cork team.
Quote from: statto on June 11, 2026, 08:48:48 AMQuote from: thejuice on June 11, 2026, 07:29:25 AMQuote from: statto on June 10, 2026, 08:21:45 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 09, 2026, 10:20:25 PMMeath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year. Happened a few days ago at training.
Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury
Big loss for Meath that.
Jordan Morris also a doubt too.
Very hard to see us win unless others step up their performance massively.
If Meath go out on Saturday will Brennan still have support?
After last year beating Dublin/Galway the championship has been very uninspiring to date. Well beaten by Westmeath and couldn't beat a 14 man Cork team.
There'll be questions to answer but I don't think we'll see a serious push against him. We got promoted to division 1 which we clearly put a lot of effort into. However we needed to find another level in the championship and it just hasn't materialised.
I think going out in the first round of Leinster really set us back. We naively thought we could build through the rounds of it when in reality we needed to be on fire from the start.
That being said reports from challenge games have always been positive if you can put much stock in them.
Given the injuries we'll need the lads to dig deep for the win. Jack O'Connor has to have a big game now, Lynch and Conlon might both start now. Costello has to be able to put in a 70+ minute performance - same for our whole midfield (except for Menton, who can go for at least 55mins).
Defence and kickouts are still our Achilles heel though. Haven't unearthed any serious talent there and Rafferty isn't quite hitting the heights of last year. There are questions being asked now about what Aaron Kernan is bringing to the table as a defensive coach.
Quote from: thejuice on June 11, 2026, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: statto on June 11, 2026, 08:48:48 AMQuote from: thejuice on June 11, 2026, 07:29:25 AMQuote from: statto on June 10, 2026, 08:21:45 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 09, 2026, 10:20:25 PMMeath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year. Happened a few days ago at training.
Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury
Big loss for Meath that.
Jordan Morris also a doubt too.
Very hard to see us win unless others step up their performance massively.
If Meath go out on Saturday will Brennan still have support?
After last year beating Dublin/Galway the championship has been very uninspiring to date. Well beaten by Westmeath and couldn't beat a 14 man Cork team.
There'll be questions to answer but I don't think we'll see a serious push against him. We got promoted to division 1 which we clearly put a lot of effort into. However we needed to find another level in the championship and it just hasn't materialised.
I think going out in the first round of Leinster really set us back. We naively thought we could build through the rounds of it when in reality we needed to be on fire from the start.
That being said reports from challenge games have always been positive if you can put much stock in them.
Given the injuries we'll need the lads to dig deep for the win. Jack O'Connor has to have a big game now, Lynch and Conlon might both start now. Costello has to be able to put in a 70+ minute performance - same for our whole midfield (except for Menton, who can go for at least 55mins).
Defence and kickouts are still our Achilles heel though. Haven't unearthed any serious talent there and Rafferty isn't quite hitting the heights of last year. There are questions being asked now about what Aaron Kernan is bringing to the table as a defensive coach.
Interesting that Aaron came in as defensive coach, when his better attributes playing were actually going forward.
Defence seems to have been an issue as you say Rafferty seems to not have been at the heights of last year and the team seems very easy to score against.
Whoever comes through this one should get great confidence and you wouldn't want them coming out of the hat in next round.
Yeah if we can get the win it could get the show back on the road. Without Kinsella for the rest of the year though I don't see us getting too far.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2026, 01:12:28 PMMonaghan bucks fairly cocky it seems!!
2nd to only Tyrone in Ulster it comes to cockiness. That's no dig at Monaghan as such confidence has allowed them be competitive in Division 1 and reach two All-Ireland semi-finals in the last decade. Cavan meanwhile the opposite, no cockiness and defeatist attitude and are where they are because of it.
They have a home game against a very beatable Dublin on Sunday however in their minds they are already beaten.
Is it possible to purchase games on GAA go as a one off or do you have to buy a season pass?
Quote from: LC on June 11, 2026, 02:29:31 PMIs it possible to purchase games on GAA go as a one off or do you have to buy a season pass?
Can buy one off games
Donegal by 5/6
Tyrone by at least 4
Galway by 4
Armagh by 5
Dublin's by 6
Kerry by 6
Roscommon by 3/4
Derry by 2 after extra time
I think you are being very kind with Kerry by 6. I honestly think it will be a massacre!
Sadly the game involving my own county is the one I am least looking forward to. I'd worry for Westmeath a bit too against Galway, who are finally seeing more big names coming back into fitness.
Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Dublin, Kerry to win handy enough.
Ros/Monaghan, Tyrone/M and Derry/Meath up for grabs.
Counties who have published their teams so far.
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Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2026, 09:39:23 PMCounties who have published their teams so far.
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Dubs changing up the keeper again.
Mad I don't know any of Dublins 1-8 but would know plenty about 9-15!!
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2026, 09:39:23 PMCounties who have published their teams so far.
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Thank you for sharing
For Monaghan (ie.cocky Monaghan to the thread's sparrow farts), Stephen O'Hanlon and Ryan McAnespie haven't gone away, Ryan Wylie back in defense who will offer good support to a surging Ryan O'Toole. Not that this signals a sure victory but 'tis bad news for the Rossies, on paper this Monaghan team looks the part. It could well be the day of the unhumble cocky underdog.
Ros team announced
Carroll
Stack Keogh McCormack
Ward Daly Lambe
Doyle Ryan
Ruane D Cregg 2xHeneghans, Diarmuid, Neary.
Enda Smyth out altogether, injury just announced.
Game changer.
Monaghan heads will be even more cocky now with the news Enda Smith is out.
Some more of the published teams
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WESTMEATH: Jason Daly; Daniel Scahill, Charlie Drumm, Tadhg Baker; Ronan Wallace, Shane Allen, Matthew Whittaker; Brían Cooney, Ray Connellan; Kevin O'Sullivan, Sam McCartan, Conor Dillon; Shane Corcoran, Senan Baker, Brandon Kelly. Subs: James Mitchell, Adam Treanor, Boidu Sayeh, Robbie Forde, Ian Martin, Harry Niall, Shane Ormsby, Stephen McGonagle, Eoghan McCabe, Jack Duncan, John Heslin.
No Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
If things don't go well for Cork I could see Donegal giving them an almighty thumping. I can see Cork really struggling to get scores, especially if Donegal manage Sherlock like Kerry did as opposed to how Meath did. That Donegal defence looks light years ahead of what Meath offered the last day.
Can't see Westmeath surprising Galway or Kildare surprising Kerry (who look to have most of their big-hitter back in the 26) Likewise Armagh and Louth. Those are the 4 I'd have as pretty much bankers. The remaining 4 games are far more up in the air to my mind.
Looking at the team-sheets that Mayo front 6 has me leaning a bit more towards Tyrone.
Monaghan v Roscommon I'm still humming and hawing over - maybe a slight nod to the Rossies but Smith out is a loss but Monaghan have been so inconsistently yo-yo in games it's hard to give them the nod - look great in patches looked muck in patches.
Leaning Derry at home but not hugely convinced more to do with how badly Meath managed the end of the Cork game. Letting any team who are a man down overtake and beat you down the stretch is a bad sign and I'd say it's worse because it's not really the type of fight-back I'd associate with this Cork football team and the fact that they did it to Meath in both the league and championship is a massive red flag.
Dublin Cavan I don't know - both teams going through the motions a bit, maybe Brennan back might favour Dublin. All depends on how the last of the old lads perform for them.
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 02:03:52 PMNo Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
Poor effort even without the winkie. He's a good player but he's hardly in the category of being essential for Tyrone having a chance to win.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 12, 2026, 02:14:38 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 02:03:52 PMNo Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
Poor effort even without the winkie. He's a good player but he's hardly in the category of being essential for Tyrone having a chance to win.
He's Tyrone's best player when on form, I am 100% certain of that
Thankfully he is named in the standby panel (#27-30) and with the antics Malachy O'Rourke pulls he probably will be on the bench come Sunday. I'd give Geezer that, the named team plays most of the time, not the waste of time that is the Tyrone starting line up week to week, a complete nonsense carry on
Wouldn't buy in to the yerra boys and the injury crisis in Kerry either - it's only Sean O'Se, Tom O'Sullivan and Shane Ryan not named due to injury. 3 massive players obviously and match fitness a concern for some of the others but at least they're being named to start / on bench - if they start to get some of those 3 back they will be right there come the end of this championship
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 02:03:52 PMNo Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
he's on the standby list, we will probably see him on Sunday
How do you find the standby panel?
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 12, 2026, 02:47:57 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 12, 2026, 02:14:38 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 02:03:52 PMNo Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
Poor effort even without the winkie. He's a good player but he's hardly in the category of being essential for Tyrone having a chance to win.
He's Tyrone's best player when on form, I am 100% certain of that
Thankfully he is named in the standby panel (#27-30) and with the antics Malachy O'Rourke pulls he probably will be on the bench come Sunday. I'd give Geezer that, the named team plays most of the time, not the waste of time that is the Tyrone starting line up week to week, a complete nonsense carry on
Darragh's definitely among Tyrone's best when on form but as I said I wouldn't have him in the utterly essential category.
I'd probably have Sean O'Shea and Shane Ryan in Kerry's top three most vital players if they are to retain Sam I think there's a significant drop down in quality to Shane Murphy in goals and I think Seanie is a vital player for those periods in games when the momentum turns against a side and they have to battle. Also he is a key 2 point threat from both play and deadballs.
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 03:45:42 PMHow do you find the standby panel?
I don't think the standby panel is released publicly but has to be registered with Croke Park along with the 26. My guess is that the people in Croke Park who see the list will talk and then it gets passed on from person to person. Only time it seems to be mentioned is when there is something significant like a big name/automatic starter if fit is on it and people are talking about a late switch. Although I did hear for one of Kerry's game a while back they only named 3 to the standby panel.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 12, 2026, 02:47:57 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 12, 2026, 02:14:38 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 02:03:52 PMNo Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
Poor effort even without the winkie. He's a good player but he's hardly in the category of being essential for Tyrone having a chance to win.
He's Tyrone's best player when on form, I am 100% certain of that
Thankfully he is named in the standby panel (#27-30) and with the antics Malachy O'Rourke pulls he probably will be on the bench come Sunday. I'd give Geezer that, the named team plays most of the time, not the waste of time that is the Tyrone starting line up week to week, a complete nonsense carry on
No two ways about it, Enda is a huge loss to us, not even on 26. It may not be realised because results were good in league and Connacht but Mark Dowd lost more players through injury and retirement (some of it injury driven too) than I think any other manager and 5 our team made championship debut this year, and essentially 7 because Lambe and Neary got some gametime under Davy but established themselves this year. So to lose a leader like Enda for a big knockout game away is a huge blow. But Mark has not made one excuse all year, so I won't either. We have to get on with it and I'm hopeful for a hard fought victory. May the best team win, and hope its us.
Ridiculous that Kildare v Kerry isn't on TV when you consider the TG4 cameras will be showing the Kildare v Kerry ladies football match before it at the same venue.
Sure, just keep one of the wide focus cameras rolling unattended and we can use radio Kerry for commentary.
Meath going for midfield aerial dominance if that lineup starts. Might sacrifice a bit of our ground game though. Menton, O'Neill, O'Connor and McBride all tall midfielders.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 12, 2026, 02:14:38 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 12, 2026, 02:03:52 PMNo Darragh Canavan on the panel, very surprised as all talk was he'd be back this weekend. Mayo huge favourites now 😉
Poor effort even without the winkie. He's a good player but he's hardly in the category of being essential for Tyrone having a chance to win.
Darragh canavan playing is certainly not essiental for Tyrone having a chance of winning vs mayo. But he's without a doubt the best footballer in Tyrone and one of the best in the country so it's not hard to understand that Tyrone would be weaker if he's not playing.
Clifford isn't essential for Kerry to beat Kildare or conaty for Armagh to beat Louth but they would still be weaker without them.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 12, 2026, 10:55:47 PMRidiculous that Kildare v Kerry isn't on TV when you consider the TG4 cameras will be showing the Kildare v Kerry ladies football match before it at the same venue.
Sure, just keep one of the wide focus cameras rolling unattended and we can use radio Kerry for commentary.
It's a disgrace that all games aren't available to watch live. But because there's only 4 games picked for tv it's understandable that Kerry vs Kildare isn't one of them as the 2b games with Derry vs Meath and Roscommon vs Monaghan are more competitive.
Any live commentary for the donegal match?
Quote from: doh827 on June 13, 2026, 03:03:14 PMAny live commentary for the donegal match?
Highland radio
Donegal 1-7 Cork 0-5 half-time
Highland radio?
Low scoring in Ballybofey at halftime. What are conditions like, did Donegal play first half against the wind?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 12, 2026, 12:38:55 PMMonaghan heads will be even more cocky now with the news Enda Smith is out.
Enda Smith has landed in Clones with his kit bag. Could play yet.
https://highlandradio.com/how-to-listen/
Quote from: oakleafladEnda Smith has landed in Clones with his kit bag. Could play yet.
Enda Smith wearing number 26 replacing Ciaran Lennon. Roscommon start as selected.
Two changes for Monaghan and two good forwards in Stephen Mooney and Stephen O'Hanlon
Cork fighting back, only 3 in it now!
10 mins to play Donegal 1-11 Cork 0-11
Donegal getting a decent test by the looks of it. Would be some result for Cork but can't see it
Real shame this game isn't on tv
Donegal 1-12 Cork 0-15. 5 minutes left.
Cork two points ahead 3 minutes left.
Cork 2 up. Surely not?
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:00:01 PMhttps://highlandradio.com/how-to-listen/
thanks for that
Result and some Result for Cork.
Donegal 1-13 Cork 0-17
Some win for Cork. Dangerous side and did same to Donegal last year(?) I think
Donegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Things you love to see.
Cork shite the bed against Kerry, Donegal destroy Kerry and now Cork go and beat Donegal in Ballybofey. Mad sport this
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 11, 2026, 08:25:26 AMGood Morning All
Subs picks coming up..
Donegal V Cork Donegal get pipped by a swashbuckling Cork team
Galway V Westmeath Galway by 5+
Tyrone V Mayo Tyrone finally put a performance together to beat a bang average Mayo outfit
Louth V Armagh Louth have banned the sale of buckfast for 5 miles so crowd is dull & Armaghs shooting efficency finally catches up to them
Derry V Meath Forget about injuries Meath will swat away any hopes of a revival from Derry
Kildare V Kerry Yera Yera the Kingdom by at least a handful
Cavan V Dublin Dublin in dissaray will scrape by Cavan
Monaghan V Roscommon Monaghans age and overall form finally catch up in the AI
I'll look forward to the rest of these results coming in..
UP THE REBELS!
Monaghan are kicking themselves out of this already.
Well done Cork. Not sure Donegal losing & going into 2B does any favours for anyone bar fecking Kerry
Monaghan are awful (again)
And will be against the wind for the second half!
Quote from: bennydorano on June 13, 2026, 04:52:21 PMMonaghan are kicking themselves out of this already.
Well done Cork. Not sure Donegal losing & going into 2B does any favours for anyone bar fecking Kerry
Ideally they're either beat next week or get seven shades of shite knocked out of them and are bollixed for a quarter final
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
Of course, lost the run of myself there lol.
Now a massive chance of Armagh drawing either Donegal or Kerry in AI QF assuming they get there.
After 25 minutes Monaghan 0-4 Roscommon 0-6
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:55:31 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
Of course, lost the run of myself there lol.
Now a massive chance of Armagh drawing either Donegal or Kerry in AI QF assuming they get there.
Looking likely, suppose if you want to win the thing you're going to have to beat one or both at some point.
Jesus monaghan are pure dung today, Micheal Bannigan has been really poor these past 3 games.
Goal for Monaghan they lead 1-6 to 0-6.
Now 3 up! Mad. If they can find the shooting boots they've some chance
Half-time Monaghan 1-9 Roscommon 0-7
Better finish to the half from Monaghan. Really clever play by Beggan and McCarron at the end to turn that 45 into a 2 pointer.
Are Donegal as good as people make out,now beat by Down and Cork. Said awhile bck, Armagh are the strongest team i seen this year.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2026, 05:09:49 PMAre Donegal as good as people make out,now beat by Down and Cork. Say awhile bck, Armagh are the strongest team i seen this year.
Definitely wouldn't rule out Kerry yet but Armagh will take a bit of beating.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:58:22 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:55:31 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
Of course, lost the run of myself there lol.
Now a massive chance of Armagh drawing either Donegal or Kerry in AI QF assuming they get there.
Looking likely, suppose if you want to win the thing you're going to have to beat one or both at some point.
If all three make that stage then it's about 60% likely that Armagh (assuming they win tomorrow) will draw one of Kerry or Donegal. Depending on who else makes the draw it's between 55.6% and 75% likely.
Here's hoping
Kerry will win this All Ireland with ease. Will get Louth or Westmeath in next round.
The team that wins Sam will be the one sitting watching the 2 or 3 other big dogs battering each other. You need a bit of luck to win anything - fixture draws are a huge factor in that. Galway were my tip for Sam from the get go and still think it but having nightmares about Tyrone tbh.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 13, 2026, 05:25:42 PMThe team that wins Sam will be the one sitting watching the 2 or 3 other big dogs battering each other. You need a bit of luck to win anything - fixture draws are a huge factor in that. Galway were my tip for Sam from the get go and still think it but having nightmares about Tyrone tbh.
Galway tipping away nicely, no hype around them and have their big players fit more or less I think. Hope Donegal and Kerry both get the shite knocked out of them next week and that we can get over Louth and avoid that play off round
53 mins played Monaghan 1-13 Roscommon 0-11. Looking good for the home side.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 13, 2026, 05:25:42 PMThe team that wins Sam will be the one sitting watching the 2 or 3 other big dogs battering each other. You need a bit of luck to win anything - fixture draws are a huge factor in that. Galway were my tip for Sam from the get go and still think it but having nightmares about Tyrone tbh.
Tyrone went something like 23 minutes without scoring second half v Roscommon. I don't know how they dogged that one out. The depth in the panel is non-existent at the minute - I wouldn't be worrying too much
Galway definitely have a shout, feel a bit under the radar this year too which is what you want if your Galway
Ros really flat, they seem to have left all their ambition and drive on the pitch after the connacht final
10 minutes to play Monaghan 1-15 Roscommon 0-12.
They havent shown a quarter of the fight today than they did in Hyde v Tyrone. They've thrown in the towel. What's the point in bringing on Smyth now? If he was fit for anything they may as well threw him on with 20 to go.
A masterclass from Monaghan on managing the game against the wind. Pinpoint lick-outs from Beggan, holding possession, picking their moments to attack.
2 plays in a row a Monaghan man went down holding head, when contact nowhere near it.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
If Kerry lose to Kildare,they're out. If they win, they're in the round 3 draw on Monday morning.
A comfortable win for Monaghan against a Roscommon team that brought no fight or intensity to that game at all. Monaghan 1-20 Roscommon 0-14.
Some performance from Monaghan, didn't think they had that 2nd half composure and game management in the locker tbh, Superb. Conor McCarthy a very worthy MOTM, purring about the place like a Rolls Royce.
Quote from: balladmaker on June 13, 2026, 06:05:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
If Kerry lose to Kildare,they're out. If they win, they're in the round 3 draw on Monday morning.
We're both half right, forgot Kerry were in last chance saloon. Repeat pairings are avoided if at all possible so they won't get Kerry.
1 major shock and one mild one so far, not bad for such a shitty draw according to the experts.
Kerry missing Sean O'Shea, White (on bemch), Tom O'Sullivan and Shane Ryan, any others?
Rory Gallagher may give up the predictions, 2/2 wrong so far and other weeks has a similar success rate
You'd have thought the Rossies had done all the hard work in the 1st half, only 5 points behind and scoring the next 3 points in the 2nd half. From then on, very nice classy play from Monaghan who just made it look very easy, kick outs almost perfect, neatly controlled possession, patient point scoring opportunities and tireless defensive work around 40m arc.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 06:07:10 PMQuote from: balladmaker on June 13, 2026, 06:05:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
If Kerry lose to Kildare,they're out. If they win, they're in the round 3 draw on Monday morning.
We're both half right, forgot Kerry were in last chance saloon. Repeat pairings are avoided if at all possible so they won't get Kerry.
Ok, so repeat pairings avoided at this stage also.
Quote from: balladmaker on June 13, 2026, 06:35:45 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 06:07:10 PMQuote from: balladmaker on June 13, 2026, 06:05:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 04:47:18 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 13, 2026, 04:44:17 PMDonegal bate!!!!
Donegal v Kerry again next weekend, heard it here first
Can't happen unfortunately. Even if Kerry somehow lose to Kildare they can't play Donegal again.
If Kerry lose to Kildare,they're out. If they win, they're in the round 3 draw on Monday morning.
We're both half right, forgot Kerry were in last chance saloon. Repeat pairings are avoided if at all possible so they won't get Kerry.
Ok, so repeat pairings avoided at this stage also.
As far as I know!
Jordan Morris looks to be moving very gingerly after picking up a knock in the warm up
Can't believe he's still starting
2A losers v 2B winners.
Neutral venues or first drawn out is at home?
Great goal from Meath (still feel wrong enjoying a Meath score)
Class goal
Had my doubts about starting Sargeant in a game like this but by god he's delivering!
Derry have been playing alright but are getting cleaned out on kickouts
Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2026, 07:20:37 PMHad my doubts about starting Sargeant in a game like this but by god he's delivering!
Goat
Our attack is stuttering. Porous in defence.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 13, 2026, 07:08:16 PM2A losers v 2B winners.
Neutral venues or first drawn out is at home?
Opponents drawn out first, then put back into a separate bowl and first one out has home advantage
Well end this game with the lions share of possession but not scoring
Got a message from a Cork friend who travelled - he was out of his head with joy.
He did say he thinks Michael Murphy could be in a bit of bother on the discipline front - gave his trademark dig to the ribs to Sheedy (who had to go off to get treatment) and it looked to be a clear striking motion,Gough did give him a yellow after but my friend did say it could have been for dissent as there was a bit of a verbal/flare-up with some of the Cork players. Might be nothing, might be something given all the talk about Murphy and Jimmy and the disciplinary system.
Pitch seems mad slippy for this time of year.
Very little in that nudge on Glass
Derry well placed now. We're like a bloody sieve defensively.
He took a hit to the head on the ground Dick!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2026, 07:40:52 PMHe took a hit to the head on the groubd Dick!
I didn't see that you asshole!
It's amazing Derry are level given how badly we've been cleaned in MF all our scores off turnovers!
Bar the goal we've been pretty solid defensively and look dangerous going forward... Sargent looks the part given it's his first start in Senior football!! AFAIK He hasn't even played senior club yet.
O'Connor extremely wasteful for Meath so far this half
Sargent has been a breath of fresh air. We're suspect when Meath are in transition. Glass has been a passenger again in this game. CD midfield, Forbes back to half back and bring on Loughlin.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 13, 2026, 07:41:30 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2026, 07:40:52 PMHe took a hit to the head on the groubd Dick!
I didn't see that you asshole!
One would contend that it is you that is the asshole.
Did Conor Doherty get any card there?
I would say he will get one yet. Didn't see anything to suggest red though.
Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2026, 07:48:19 PMDid Conor Doherty get any card there?
I don't think so. Not sure why he was singled out.
Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2026, 07:48:19 PMDid Conor Doherty get any card there?
No, but could well do at the start of the second half. Derry cleaned out on kick outs going both ways.
Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2026, 07:48:19 PMDid Conor Doherty get any card there?
Not yet but could get it start of 2nd half. That's all Hurson would've been asking for, another handling at half time after Killarney
Derry have much more fight in them which is good to see. Definitely think glass isn't what he was.
Honestly, our defenders can't put in a hard tackle. Derry running through lads. It's really poor and I can't get my head around it.
Jack O'Connor completely lost his shooting form. He can make good runs but needs to hand off the shots.
Morris needs to come off. Clearly injured.
McBride is immense on the kick outs. Hopefully not injured.
Interesting of there's a yellow or red card before the second half but haven't seen anything that caused the shoving match.
Throw the ball in Hurson and f**k off with your cards! Bollix
Four black cards jaysus
Hurson should be retired.
So was he correct or incorrect in the approach he took in the last round?
I see Ewan MacKenna is taking it well anyway.
Absolute stupidity by both teams to get invovled in the messing after the whole Killarney stuff.
2 blacks apiece mean both teams down to 13 so equally punished for their stupidity.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2026, 07:51:47 PMDerry have much more fight in them which is good to see. Definitely think glass isn't what he was.
Glass looks very jaded.
Nice to see the young lad Seargent playing with the hand brake off
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 13, 2026, 07:45:56 PMQuote from: Tubberman on June 13, 2026, 07:41:30 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2026, 07:40:52 PMHe took a hit to the head on the groubd Dick!
I didn't see that you asshole!
One would contend that it is you that is the asshole.
Everyone's an asshole. That's how it works online, right?
Who's the co-comm for this on Gaa+?
Is hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Quote from: maldini on June 13, 2026, 08:09:36 PMIs hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Blow the whistle, walk off, come back on, blow the whistle again. Anything that happens when whistle has gone isn't your concern
Few lovely scores taken!
This is a super game of football.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 08:12:24 PMQuote from: maldini on June 13, 2026, 08:09:36 PMIs hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Blow the whistle, walk off, come back on, blow the whistle again. Anything that happens when whistle has gone isn't your concern
To what extent. Could a player lamp him walking in with immunity?
Meath have clamped down a bit on McEvoy who is main threat. Conlon needs a new marker.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 08:12:24 PMQuote from: maldini on June 13, 2026, 08:09:36 PMIs hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Blow the whistle, walk off, come back on, blow the whistle again. Anything that happens when whistle has gone isn't your concern
That is just so impractical and recipe for disaster
Quote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2026, 08:16:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2026, 08:12:24 PMQuote from: maldini on June 13, 2026, 08:09:36 PMIs hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Blow the whistle, walk off, come back on, blow the whistle again. Anything that happens when whistle has gone isn't your concern
To what extent. Could a player lamp him walking in with immunity?
He probably thinks so as he didn't think Michael Burns deserved a red the last day out.
Ciaran Caulfield could shoot he'd be the best player in Ireland
Quote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2026, 08:00:15 PMSo was he correct or incorrect in the approach he took in the last round?
I think he's one of the best refs, knows how to manage a game especially when heating up with players acting the mick. He stood tall out there when players were leaving the pitch together.
Maybe he made a technical error in Tralee.
Well that was absolutely shite!!!
Fair play to Meath, deserved it.
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 13, 2026, 08:39:03 PMFair play to Meath, deserved it.
I don't even think they were great but Derry have gone back as they year has progressed!
Survived that one. Big second half. Derry got nothing off their bench. Thought we'd concede another goal before the end.
Keoghan was immense
McBride was immense
Conlon was immense
Morris given he was not 100% was brilliant in the second half
Menton, Costello, Caulfield honarable mentions.
Frayne - I still don't know how he's captain. Apart from recycling the ball and slowing the game down and kick frees what does he do.
The lads that needed to stepped up in the second half.
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 13, 2026, 08:39:03 PMFair play to Meath, deserved it.
Agreed, better team won. Best of luck for the rest of the year.
Quote from: screenexile on June 13, 2026, 08:39:50 PMQuote from: oakleaflad on June 13, 2026, 08:39:03 PMFair play to Meath, deserved it.
I don't even think they were great but Derry have gone back as they year has progressed!
Not saying they were. From a Derry perspective we didn't get enough hands on ball from kickouts and a few players who peaked 3 or 4 years ago are fading. Need an injection of youth next season with the likes of Sargent, Young x2, C Higgins, Rogers etc getting game time.
No Saturday game? West Brits showing the pansy ball instead??
Quote from: Tubberman on June 13, 2026, 08:03:45 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 13, 2026, 07:45:56 PMQuote from: Tubberman on June 13, 2026, 07:41:30 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2026, 07:40:52 PMHe took a hit to the head on the groubd Dick!
I didn't see that you asshole!
One would contend that it is you that is the asshole.
Everyone's an asshole. That's how it works online, right?
Probably, I certainly am. Best of luck tomorrow.
The positives from that is that its clear that we're in a rebuild (but from a decent base), and we've given some of the young lads a shot. A lot of lads that were our best players 3 years ago look jaded. Hopefully we use the league next year to get more of the young lads bedded in. Meath deserved the win today but theyll need to improve if they are to progress further. I was surprised how little Morris was highlighted by the pundits. He was clearly in some discomfort before throw in and really didn't run at Derry the way we know he can.
Quote from: Main Street on June 13, 2026, 08:31:58 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2026, 08:00:15 PMSo was he correct or incorrect in the approach he took in the last round?
I think he's one of the best refs, knows how to manage a game especially when heating up with players acting the mick. He stood tall out there when players were leaving the pitch together.
Maybe he made a technical error in Tralee.
I must say, I used to think Hurson was good. He's a coward. Should have sent off Clifford and McGuinness in Killarney. Now makes up for that lack of integrity by dishing out 4 blacks against lesser teams. I'd be interested in hearing which of the specific black card offences the 4 players committed. If you can't make the difficult calls when they should be made you have no place on the big stage.
That Donegal steward going to go viral with the heavy handedness on the cork man who tried to get on the pitch at the end.
Quote from: currychip on June 13, 2026, 08:53:54 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 13, 2026, 08:31:58 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2026, 08:00:15 PMSo was he correct or incorrect in the approach he took in the last round?
I think he's one of the best refs, knows how to manage a game especially when heating up with players acting the mick. He stood tall out there when players were leaving the pitch together.
Maybe he made a technical error in Tralee.
I must say, I used to think Hurson was good. He's a coward. Should have sent off Clifford and McGuinness in Killarney. Now makes up for that lack of integrity by dishing out 4 blacks against lesser teams. I'd be interested in hearing which of the specific black card offences the 4 players committed. If you can't make the difficult calls when they should be made you have no place on the big stage.
A coward?
He was a p***k last week.
Why can nobody just give their opinion without having to resort to that sort of personal abuse.
Just say you think he got it wrong if that's what you believe
Quote from: OakLeaf on June 13, 2026, 08:52:11 PMThe positives from that is that its clear that we're in a rebuild (but from a decent base), and we've given some of the young lads a shot. A lot of lads that were our best players 3 years ago look jaded. Hopefully we use the league next year to get more of the young lads bedded in. Meath deserved the win today but theyll need to improve if they are to progress further. I was surprised how little Morris was highlighted by the pundits. He was clearly in some discomfort before throw in and really didn't run at Derry the way we know he can.
Seen at half time Morris had the hand all bandaged up before putting his gloves on
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 13, 2026, 07:30:50 PMGot a message from a Cork friend who travelled - he was out of his head with joy.
He did say he thinks Michael Murphy could be in a bit of bother on the discipline front - gave his trademark dig to the ribs to Sheedy (who had to go off to get treatment) and it looked to be a clear striking motion,Gough did give him a yellow after but my friend did say it could have been for dissent as there was a bit of a verbal/flare-up with some of the Cork players. Might be nothing, might be something given all the talk about Murphy and Jimmy and the disciplinary system.
I'll eat my hat if he gets a retrospective ban
The thing is , the fist to the midriff is hard to spot. Which is why he does it. Incapacitates the opponent .
Murphy knows what he's doing , and knows he'll get away with it, which is why he's been doing it (and getting away with it) for so long
The thing with him is though he seems quite happy to hurt people and it has happened time and again. It's clearly more than rashness.
Tbh Derry are better than I thought they were. They actually lack in defense and midfield more than forwards. One observation would be though - Meath clearly learned and shut down McEvoy. Derry did not do the same on keoghan who was killing them and they were slow on changing marker on colon.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 13, 2026, 09:54:26 PMQuote from: currychip on June 13, 2026, 08:53:54 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 13, 2026, 08:31:58 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2026, 08:00:15 PMSo was he correct or incorrect in the approach he took in the last round?
I think he's one of the best refs, knows how to manage a game especially when heating up with players acting the mick. He stood tall out there when players were leaving the pitch together.
Maybe he made a technical error in Tralee.
I must say, I used to think Hurson was good. He's a coward. Should have sent off Clifford and McGuinness in Killarney. Now makes up for that lack of integrity by dishing out 4 blacks against lesser teams. I'd be interested in hearing which of the specific black card offences the 4 players committed. If you can't make the difficult calls when they should be made you have no place on the big stage.
A coward?
He was a p***k last week.
Why can nobody just give their opinion without having to resort to that sort of personal abuse.
Just say you think he got it wrong if that's what you believe
Not sure what u are referring to but I take it that's it was my comment that he is a coward. I absolutely stick with that. It wasn't a case of him making a mistake. The infringements in Killarney were clear cut. He chose to ignore them, so not a mistake. Not wrong interpretations. A choice to not take action on what were clear red card offences. But this evening, big balls.
Cork's Tommy Walsh took 10+ steps on two separate occasions before kicking his 2 pointer ;D
The apparent Sherlock breach looked bad, would like to see a different ankle of it.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 12, 2026, 02:11:48 PMIf things don't go well for Cork I could see Donegal giving them an almighty thumping. I can see Cork really struggling to get scores, especially if Donegal manage Sherlock like Kerry did as opposed to how Meath did. That Donegal defence looks light years ahead of what Meath offered the last day.
Can't see Westmeath surprising Galway or Kildare surprising Kerry (who look to have most of their big-hitter back in the 26) Likewise Armagh and Louth. Those are the 4 I'd have as pretty much bankers. The remaining 4 games are far more up in the air to my mind.
Looking at the team-sheets that Mayo front 6 has me leaning a bit more towards Tyrone.
Monaghan v Roscommon I'm still humming and hawing over - maybe a slight nod to the Rossies but Smith out is a loss but Monaghan have been so inconsistently yo-yo in games it's hard to give them the nod - look great in patches looked muck in patches.
Leaning Derry at home but not hugely convinced more to do with how badly Meath managed the end of the Cork game. Letting any team who are a man down overtake and beat you down the stretch is a bad sign and I'd say it's worse because it's not really the type of fight-back I'd associate with this Cork football team and the fact that they did it to Meath in both the league and championship is a massive red flag.
Dublin Cavan I don't know - both teams going through the motions a bit, maybe Brennan back might favour Dublin. All depends on how the last of the old lads perform for them.
I won't be asking you for the lotto numbers lol.
Anyway not at the match as abroad. Thankfully got to watch it. Highly entertaining game. But as paddy power will tell anyone who asks I knew we would beat them. Don't ask me why but the league game was enough to show me we have the measure of most of the Ulster sides. Meath were dominant and to be honest only for a soft goal the margin would have been a lot bigger. In a way it was the perfect draw for Meath on the back of the last 2 games. The gut punch against the wearies was still hanging over us v cork in cork. See what they did to the overhyped Donegal in Donegal. Hopefully that is now left to one side. Who we get in next round i think is irrelevant. We just have to focus on our own strengths.
Meath managemwnt lad got a red card cause his Surname was not McGuinness
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 13, 2026, 09:58:38 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 13, 2026, 07:30:50 PMGot a message from a Cork friend who travelled - he was out of his head with joy.
He did say he thinks Michael Murphy could be in a bit of bother on the discipline front - gave his trademark dig to the ribs to Sheedy (who had to go off to get treatment) and it looked to be a clear striking motion,Gough did give him a yellow after but my friend did say it could have been for dissent as there was a bit of a verbal/flare-up with some of the Cork players. Might be nothing, might be something given all the talk about Murphy and Jimmy and the disciplinary system.
I'll eat my hat if he gets a retrospective ban
The thing is , the fist to the midriff is hard to spot. Which is why he does it. Incapacitates the opponent .
Murphy knows what he's doing , and knows he'll get away with it, which is why he's been doing it (and getting away with it) for so long
Murphy and mcguiness are two dinosaurs about to fade away. Murphy been getting away with strikes throughout his career, getting more obvious now his age is showing. Mcguiness showing to be a one trick pony who throws the toys out of the pram once everything doesn't go his way. Completely obsessed by kerry which is why Down and Cork caught him out.
Quote from: maldini on June 13, 2026, 08:09:36 PMIs hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Hurson sees things when he wants to see things.
Quote from: marty34 on June 13, 2026, 11:27:16 PMQuote from: maldini on June 13, 2026, 08:09:36 PMIs hurson watching replays at half time or what, and then dishing out cards
If he is he shouldn't be, no VAR in the game
Hurson sees things when he wants to see things.
Is there any regulation which says he shouldn't watch tv coverage at ht? I remember Mon v Dub AIsf the umpire called for a 45, Hurson hesitated, looked up at the big screen replay, saw it wasn't a 45 and overruled the umpire. at the time I presumed there was nothing to say he couldn't use the big screen replay for guidance.
Quote from: Main Street on June 13, 2026, 08:31:58 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2026, 08:00:15 PMSo was he correct or incorrect in the approach he took in the last round?
I think he's one of the best refs, knows how to manage a game especially when heating up with players acting the mick. He stood tall out there when players were leaving the pitch together.
Maybe he made a technical error in Tralee.
On his day I think he's brilliant and definitely the best around but when off it he can be very inconsistent. For example I thought he was brilliant in the 2024 final although I may be biased but very poor last week.
The problem though is the catastrophic impact that inconsistency can create. Hard to see how today was 4 cards worse than two weeks ago. Hard to see how McGuinness wasn't a sending off etc etc.
I've said it before though and I'll say it again. I think the game today is too fast too big and too professional for one single amateur referee particularly when the association doesn't help them by putting them in situations.
Derry still haven't fully recovered from their winless 2025 run and could take them another few years with another few managers.
Meath,Monaghan with wind in their sails again and who knows they might reach another All-Ireland semi-final again.
Kildare v Kerry turned out as expected. Kerry remain the team to beat in the All-Ireland series
The Roscommon need to examine how and why they underachieve so often in the All-Ireland series.
Cork with the result of the day. Donegal having their most inconsistent season under big Jim.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2026, 11:58:37 PMDerry still haven't fully recovered from their winless 2025 run and could take them another few years with another few managers.
Meath,Monaghan with wind in their sails again and who knows they might reach another All-Ireland semi-final again.
Kildare v Kerry turned out as expected. Kerry remain the team to beat in the All-Ireland series
The Roscommon need to examine how and why they underachieve so often in the All-Ireland series.
Cork with the result of the day. Donegal having their most inconsistent season under big Jim.
Were Kerry not already beaten in the All Ireland series. Surely the team that beat them are more the team to beat? Or one of the 2A winners?
I think this year might be like a giant game of rock paper scissors and come down to luck of the draw. Some teams will be strong against others but weak against a different team. Very hard to separate come the end of the season. Making for a great championship
They played better last year not winning, than this year. Monaghan didnt win a league game. Ton players retired/injured and turned it round, cause Monaghan got abit bite, we hid when the going gets tough!
Hard to know if that defeat to cork could be a fatal blow to donegal or a badly needed wake up call like kerrys loss to meath last year. I had a weird feeling they are undercooked as only 2 games since league and half of one game was with an extra man. That said they have not had fluke wins to get them to being genuinecall ireland contenders. A win next week and they will be feared again i think. Fair play to cork great win
Embarrassing and disappointing today.
We hardly broke sweat.....
Quote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2026, 12:08:04 AMEmbarrassing and disappointing today.
We hardly broke sweat.....
Very worrying that Ros couldn't get themselves up for a knockout championship game coming off a provincial win.
It's not like the Tyrone game was a massive failure - they probably would have won apart from an uncharacteristic poor kickout.
Anyway, they're gone now - a footnote in championship 2026 when they would have hoped to be a headline.
Only saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2026, 12:26:07 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2026, 12:08:04 AMEmbarrassing and disappointing today.
We hardly broke sweat.....
Very worrying that Ros couldn't get themselves up for a knockout championship game coming off a provincial win.
It's not like the Tyrone game was a massive failure - they probably would have won apart from an uncharacteristic poor kickout.
Anyway, they're gone now - a footnote in championship 2026 when they would have hoped to be a headline.
The Rossies were up for the game up to and until just 2 points behind in the 2nd half with the wind, what happened after that was Monaghan taking tactical control and the Rossies abject response.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 12:04:53 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2026, 11:58:37 PMDerry still haven't fully recovered from their winless 2025 run and could take them another few years with another few managers.
Meath,Monaghan with wind in their sails again and who knows they might reach another All-Ireland semi-final again.
Kildare v Kerry turned out as expected. Kerry remain the team to beat in the All-Ireland series
The Roscommon need to examine how and why they underachieve so often in the All-Ireland series.
Cork with the result of the day. Donegal having their most inconsistent season under big Jim.
Were Kerry not already beaten in the All Ireland series. Surely the team that beat them are more the team to beat? Or one of the 2A winners?
I think this year might be like a giant game of rock paper scissors and come down to luck of the draw. Some teams will be strong against others but weak against a different team. Very hard to separate come the end of the season. Making for a great championship
Kerry the team to beat when it comes to knock out jeopardy football.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2026, 12:26:07 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2026, 12:08:04 AMEmbarrassing and disappointing today.
We hardly broke sweat.....
Very worrying that Ros couldn't get themselves up for a knockout championship game coming off a provincial win.
It's not like the Tyrone game was a massive failure - they probably would have won apart from an uncharacteristic poor kickout.
Anyway, they're gone now - a footnote in championship 2026 when they would have hoped to be a headline.
Aye indeed.
Losing is one thing but to just fade away without a whimper.....
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Are highlights available somewhere?
Yes they are on the Rte website.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2026, 12:26:07 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2026, 12:08:04 AMEmbarrassing and disappointing today.
We hardly broke sweat.....
Very worrying that Ros couldn't get themselves up for a knockout championship game coming off a provincial win.
It's not like the Tyrone game was a massive failure - they probably would have won apart from an uncharacteristic poor kickout.
Anyway, they're gone now - a footnote in championship 2026 when they would have hoped to be a headline.
Monaghan made good use of home advantage right down to how to played against the wind and they were much more measured and controlled on the ball in that knock out game than their previous non knock out games
The rossies didnt look prepared for a big battle at all and even when 6-2 ahead they looked off, it was basically poor shooting by Monaghan during that period that had them ahead. Without Enda Smith they looked fairly lost, bringing him on with 7 minutes to go when injured was silly.
Won Connacht and stayed up in Division 1 Roscommon had worse years.
Monaghan v Donegal would be interesting pairing if it happens in the next round.
Good away wins for Cork and Meath that made 3 of the 4 underdogs winning on Saturday
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
I think Gough seemed to award two frees. One for a pull on the jersey inside and one for a foul on the ball carrier out the pitch.
Although I always thought you had the choice for an off the ball foul of where you had the ball or where the foul was committed.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 01:14:45 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Are highlights available somewhere?
Yes they are on the Rte website.
Youtube always have them up too.
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 01:33:23 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 01:14:45 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Are highlights available somewhere?
Yes they are on the Rte website.
Youtube always have them up too.
Strange that RTE had all the cameras at the match, a quality recording with 'top notch' commentator Marty yet there was no live broadcast on offer. Why go to all that bother for just 5 minutes of highlights? Yet there were games on GAA+ where a few people and their pet dog were in attendance.
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 01:33:23 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 01:14:45 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Are highlights available somewhere?
Yes they are on the Rte website.
Youtube always have them up too.
Good to know. Thanks
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 07:01:48 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 01:33:23 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 01:14:45 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Are highlights available somewhere?
Yes they are on the Rte website.
Youtube always have them up too.
Strange that RTE had all the cameras at the match, a quality recording with 'top notch' commentator Marty yet there was no live broadcast on offer. Why go to all that bother for just 5 minutes of highlights? Yet there were games on GAA+ where a few people and their pet dog were in attendance.
I assume it's for the Sunday Game. I also think it was a contractual issue rather than a resource issue.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 08:11:40 AMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 07:01:48 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 01:33:23 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 01:14:45 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2026, 12:35:14 AMOnly saw the Donegal highlights, but did Cork pull the 20 metre free back outside the arc when Sherlock scored the 2 pointer free to go ahead?
Are highlights available somewhere?
Yes they are on the Rte website.
Youtube always have them up too.
Strange that RTE had all the cameras at the match, a quality recording with 'top notch' commentator Marty yet there was no live broadcast on offer. Why go to all that bother for just 5 minutes of highlights? Yet there were games on GAA+ where a few people and their pet dog were in attendance.
I assume it's for the Sunday Game. I also think it was a contractual issue rather than a resource issue.
Common sense needs to prevail here then. If the resources are there to show it then every game at this stage should be shown as the appetite is definitely there from neutrals
Quote from: downgael2065 on June 14, 2026, 12:07:49 AMHard to know if that defeat to cork could be a fatal blow to donegal or a badly needed wake up call like kerrys loss to meath last year. I had a weird feeling they are undercooked as only 2 games since league and half of one game was with an extra man. That said they have not had fluke wins to get them to being genuinecall ireland contenders. A win next week and they will be feared again i think. Fair play to cork great win
I think way too much is made of direct routes tbh, extra games are great for generating momentum, a lot does depend on your injury situation tho.
Also - having the wind is another thing that some teans put too much faith in. I always think Armagh & Donegal for example dont care that much about it, and are generally as good into as with it all the time. Some teams can certainly make hay with it on occasion but they can never make hay it all the time and will come a cropper at some point.
The trouble with the Cork defeat is it yet again undermines the aura that Donegal had built up this year. Every team will fancy a go at Donegal now.
Did Derry have a sub Maor Uisce?
Who dished out the water after his sending off? Maybe that's what contributed to their loss
Rossies played like a team that was in a 2a game rather than 2b...almost as if they gave up the game as they knew they'd a safety net next week, really strange performance.
Blaine out, advantage Louth!
And our best fielder, we're in trouble
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 14, 2026, 12:01:27 PMDid Derry have a sub Maor Uisce?
Who dished out the water after his sending off? Maybe that's what contributed to their loss
It was the Meath Maor Uisce that got the line.
Louth seriously fancy their chances here. Hoping Armagh have enough with more players missing today.
Conatys change of direction and power is a joy to watch. Armagh should win.
Interesting to see Rafferty roving
Quote from: Estimator on June 14, 2026, 12:58:09 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 14, 2026, 12:01:27 PMDid Derry have a sub Maor Uisce?
Who dished out the water after his sending off? Maybe that's what contributed to their loss
It was the Meath Maor Uisce that got the line.
Maybe that's why Meath won? Water intake would have slowed them down
Good game here lads
Conor Lane is a terrible ref.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 14, 2026, 01:22:05 PMConor Lane is a terrible ref.
Shocking. I remember he reffed the Armagh v Down game in 2024 and made a complete mess of it.
He's trying his best to let it flow like Hurson or Falcon but hasn't the skill to do it
Game on, Louth are well up for this
How was that not a yellow card for Mc Elroy there?
Plus that was a 2 pointer from Grimes.
Surprised McElroy escaped a card there. Extremely reckless, just lucky he missed the Louth player.
Quote from: Estimator on June 14, 2026, 01:33:50 PMSurprised McElroy escaped a card there. Extremely reckless, just lucky he missed the Louth player.
Very lucky boy
Hard to see Louth losing this given the way it's going at the moment. Every 50/50 decision is going their way, the crowd is up, they're playing well and Armagh are a bit flat after a bright start.
So many messy decisions here in this game, Mc Cabe surely had to be booked there, missed two pointer, obv wide from Louth and that was never a free there for Armagh
Quote from: Estimator on June 14, 2026, 01:33:50 PMSurprised McElroy escaped a card there. Extremely reckless, just lucky he missed the Louth player.
Totally a yellow. Made all the worse by the awarding of a free for an Armagh player faking a head injury.
Ah FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why is Ger Canning still commentating?
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:37:06 PMSo many messy decisions here in this game, Mc Cabe surely had to be booked there, missed two pointer, obv wide from Louth and that was never a free there for Armagh
And the yellow card for Kelly for some unknown reason and the very soft free for Mulroy that lead to a 2 pointer.
Rafferty having a stinker
Conor Lane isn't fit to referee a Junior B game.
Brings Armagh back into the game with a pathetic decision, two minutes after waving away a highly dangerous tackle ftom an Armagh player.
Quote from: ranch on June 14, 2026, 01:40:17 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:37:06 PMSo many messy decisions here in this game, Mc Cabe surely had to be booked there, missed two pointer, obv wide from Louth and that was never a free there for Armagh
And the yellow card for Kelly for some unknown reason and the very soft free for Mulroy that lead to a 2 pointer.
He shouldered a man to the head when he was picking the ball off the ground...that was a stone Waller in my eyes. Mulroy's two pointer free was very soft TBF
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:42:30 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Foul happened outside and was an advantage. Should have been a penalty.
Lane is absolutely awful but we've been worse!
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2026, 01:43:48 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:42:30 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Foul happened outside and was an advantage. Should have been a penalty.
Lane is absolutely awful but we've been worse!
i didn't see the goalie strike the armagh player on the head, just 2 players going for the ball and the goalie won.
There was an advantage for a pull back before Conaty tried his shot that I thought was well inside the arc, not sure how it ended up coming out as it wasn't advanced.
McElroy very lucky, was extremely reckless. Mulroy two pointer was very soft but he should never have got near the ball in the first place with the jump Duffy had on him.
Interesting game. Armagh uncharacteristically sloppy and reckless with the ball up front. Maguire balloons an awful lot wide for Louth. Was the same the last day.
No matter what happens in this game it shows me why Armagh are winning no AI, no height in MF and it matters. Having to be more and more creative with kickouts to compensate for it, which in itself increases pressure. Rafferty is just jot as good as Blaine Hughes.
Louth should be further ahead.
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:45:46 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2026, 01:43:48 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:42:30 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Foul happened outside and was an advantage. Should have been a penalty.
Lane is absolutely awful but we've been worse!
i didn't see the goalie strike the armagh player on the head, just 2 players going for the ball and the goalie won.
And didn't appear to touch his head. I thought it was a bit of a shunt in the back tbh. Also thought he lifted it off the ground after McConville's palmed effort was blocked on the line.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 14, 2026, 01:39:13 PMWhy is Ger Canning still commentating?
He's an RTE personality on the gravy train.
After the first five minutes when Armagh were 1-1 to no score up I was fearful if we'd get any sort of a decent game, but Armagh didn't really build on that and were 2nd best for long stretches of the game. Louth probably will feel they should be more than 2 points up at HT given how much of the overall play they had especially in the 2nd quarter. Can see this one going all the way to the wire.
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:45:46 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2026, 01:43:48 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:42:30 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Foul happened outside and was an advantage. Should have been a penalty.
Lane is absolutely awful but we've been worse!
i didn't see the goalie strike the armagh player on the head, just 2 players going for the ball and the goalie won.
Was it not a shoulder in the back/back of head?
Anyway we knew coming in how bad Lane is, it's our performance especially kickouts and final ball thats worrying.
Quote from: gallsman on June 14, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:45:46 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2026, 01:43:48 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:42:30 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Foul happened outside and was an advantage. Should have been a penalty.
Lane is absolutely awful but we've been worse!
i didn't see the goalie strike the armagh player on the head, just 2 players going for the ball and the goalie won.
And didn't appear to touch his head. I thought it was a bit of a shunt in the back tbh. Also thought he lifted it off the ground after McConville's palmed effort was blocked on the line.
And Lane did the right thing, consult with the umpire who indicated just a shunt into the shoulder.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 14, 2026, 01:46:50 PMNo matter what happens in this game it shows me why Armagh are winning no AI, no height in MF and it matters. Having to be more and more creative with kickouts to compensate for it, which in itself increases pressure. Rafferty is just jot as good as Blaine Hughes.
Louth should be further ahead.
The lack of height at midfield is a serious issue for Armagh alright.
QuoteNo matter what happens in this game it shows me why Armagh are winning no AI, no height in MF and it matters. Having to be more and more creative with kickouts to compensate for it, which in itself increases pressure. Rafferty is just jot as good as Blaine Hughes.
Louth should be further ahead.
Yeah, I've been thinking that too , even before today.
Even if they win today , other teams will work out the lack of height and take advantage
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2026, 01:33:40 PMHow was that not a yellow card for Mc Elroy there?
Plus that was a 2 pointer from Grimes.
There are 2 arcs marked on pitch - he was outside the inner arc but inside the outer arc :)
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2026, 01:49:13 PMWas it not a shoulder in the back/back of head?
Anyway we knew coming in how bad Lane is, it's our performance especially kickouts and final ball thats worrying.
It was the sort of thing you've made a name for yourself howling that it shouldn't be a free.
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on June 14, 2026, 01:54:20 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 14, 2026, 01:33:40 PMHow was that not a yellow card for Mc Elroy there?
Plus that was a 2 pointer from Grimes.
There are 2 arcs marked on pitch - he was outside the inner arc but inside the outer arc :)
A foot on the line counts as a two pointer. I only saw the one replay but it looked like that's what happened. That said, they were supposedly given a point a minute later that was wide.
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:45:46 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 14, 2026, 01:43:48 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 01:42:30 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 14, 2026, 01:38:15 PMAh FFS, that is a joke getting 2 points for that... pathetic
Why was the free moved outside the arc?
Foul happened outside and was an advantage. Should have been a penalty.
Lane is absolutely awful but we've been worse!
i didn't see the goalie strike the armagh player on the head, just 2 players going for the ball and the goalie won.
He tried to get goalie booked/sent off.
Goalie just gave him a shoulder dunt.
Kick out mess there
Lively start to the Galway Westmeath game. Galway have what looks like a decent wind. Westmeath up 2 points to 1
Walsh with a kickout mistake goal Galway 1-2 Westmeath 0-2
armagh stepping it up now. Going after the louth kickouts with a lot more intensity
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2026, 02:05:41 PMKick out mess there
Kickout was fine. Defender made a balls of it.
Edit: Ah think you're on about Galway game.
Cat back amongst the pigeons
Tasty Goal for Galway by Hernon Galway 2-3 Westmeath 0-2
All the scoring momentum with Galway scoring 2-3 without reply. Westmeath need to get the scoreboard moving sharpish.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 14, 2026, 02:15:27 PMTasty Goal for Galway by Hernon Galway 2-3 Westmeath 0-2
Trying to watch two games at once, HQ could have done a better job to prevent games overlapping.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2026, 02:17:42 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 14, 2026, 02:15:27 PMTasty Goal for Galway by Hernon Galway 2-3 Westmeath 0-2
Trying to watch two games at once, HQ could have done a better job to prevent games overlapping.
For sure I considered throwing on the radio for the Cavn v Dublin game but 2 screens is enough
Much needed point for Westmeath to take them to 0-3 Galway 2-4
Goal for Westmeath they needed that.
Westmeath goal 1-3 Galway 2-4 Shot blocked down Westmeath got the rebound nice finish Wallace. Scoreboard tightened up significantly
Conroy with a trademark 2 pointer respsonse for Galway Gawlay 2:6 Wesmeath 1:3
Ger isn't a commentator per se, more of an enthusiastic in-store public announcer at Dunnes reminding shoppers about the tasty carrots on sale in the veg dept.
Gawlay 2:6 Wesmeath 1:4
Gawlay 2:7 Wesmeath 1:4
the point taking by both teams in the louth armagh game is impressive
Galway 2:9 Wesmeath 1:4 Good response by Galway after the Westmeath goal Gap out to 8
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 02:26:10 PMGer isn't a commentator per se, more of an enthusiastic in-store public announcer at Dunnes reminding shoppers about the tasty carrots on sale in the veg dept.
He had about three goes at saying Jack McCarron before HT and settled on McKarma.
Galway 2:9 Wesmeath 1:5
Galway 2:9 Wesmeath 1:6
Galway 2:9 Westmeath 1:7
Galway 2:9 Westmeath 1:8 Heslin from a free closes the gap to 4 points.
Galway have missed 4 or 5 2 pointer attempts either wide or short.
Goal for Galway just before the hooter. Westmeath had possession and took a one point shot and Galway got a quick kickoff down the field and Tierney got the goal. Significant score and changes the HT dressing-room vibes significantly.
Galway 3:9 Westmeath 1:8 HT
Does Ger Canning not know there's a 2 pointer now?
armagh beat themselves. 2 stupid turnovers in the last 2 mins and then a howler from the keeper
Unreal.. Brilliant for Louth
Time was up before that shot went in!
Ah lads what were the Louth forwards at?? Surely the man running towards the goal should have taken the ball 🙈
Canning is a baulix but OMG. Poor goalie
HOLY f poor Ethan
Got what we deserved today though.
Jesus christ
Rafferty had a nightmare there but fair play to Louth. They kept themselves in the game and for their reward.
what was faulkner thinking taking that shot on
Forker decision was absolute madness and unfortunately Rafferty has just lost the most crucial one of the day having been excellent throughout
Ger was spot on, Louth to go for goal, reminded me a bit of Paul Finlay's last shot goal to beat Meath at CP.
A freak goal and unfortunate for a normally excellent player.
The keeper and defender both going down holding their heads and rolling about the floor was unnecessary at the end.
Louth and Cork in the quarter-finals. Just like everyone predicted.
Quotewhat was faulkner thinking taking that shot on
I presume to mean Forker.
that was madness , especially from someone so experienced. All Armagh had to do was recycle the ball for another minute and the game was over.
Louth there on merit. Lets not forget they have serious talent underage but armagh yet again cannot finish off opponent.
Forker makes some stupid decisions seeking personal glory. McGeeney will have some words for him
Mulroy did next to nothing in the second half too.
Louth are very good at just tacking on scores to stay in games as well as having pretty reliable two point options.
Some very below par performances for Armagh today. Thought Conaty and McQuillan were excellent as usual.
Possibly the greatest football championship there's ever been. Credit to the GAA for making the changes a couple of years ago, they've saved the sport.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 02:51:06 PMLouth there on merit. Lets not forget they have serious talent underage but armagh yet again cannot finish off opponent.
Forker makes some stupid decisions seeking personal glory. McGeeney will have some words for him
No idea why he was on. Clearly not fit to sprint.
Armagh taking off Cian McConville who was running close for my MOTM and McQuillan was inexplicable, no idea what they were thinking on the line. Misplaced loyalty to Forker has cost us there.
Congrats to Louth but so many non performances there by Armagh.
Silly from Forker, absolutely no need for that shot.
Rafferty reminiscent of big Plunkett Donaghy
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 14, 2026, 02:49:45 PMQuotewhat was faulkner thinking taking that shot on
I presume to mean Forker.
that was madness , especially from someone so experienced. All Armagh had to do was recycle the ball for another minute and the game was over.
yeah forker (sry). crazy decision making
Maybe this has been answered already, but are repeat pairings from provincials allowed in round 3?
Quote from: bennydorano on June 14, 2026, 02:54:02 PMArmagh taking off Cian McConville who was running close for my MOTM and McQuillan was inexplicable, no idea what they were thinking on the line. Misplaced loyalty to Forker has cost us there.
Congrats to Louth but so many non performances there by Armagh.
Was scratching my head at both those substitutions.
Quote from: Schkite on June 14, 2026, 02:58:34 PMMaybe this has been answered already, but are repeat pairings from provincials allowed in round 3?
Only the finalists, Monaghan can't meet Armagh if it can be avoided.
Imagine that in Croker in a semi final with hooter.
They try to avoid provincial final repeat pairings and R1 repeat pairings.
Kerry and Donegal shouldn't be able to meet so Armagh-Kerry more of a possibility.
20 mins to play.
Galway 3-11 Westmeath 1-12
Cavan 0-13 Dublin 0-15
Assuming no injuries can see a comfortable Tyrone win[+5]
Help an old person here.
Tell me who's on which side of the draw from here.
Please.
Think Westmeath got lucky there - Should have been a red for me.
Galway 3-13 Westmeath 1-12
Galway have managed this 3rd quarter well maintaining their HT gap.
2A
Donegal
Armagh
Tyrone/Mayo
Galway/Westmeath
2B
Meath
Kerry
Monaghan
Dublin/Cavan
Donegal
Armagh
losers of Tyone/Mayo
losers of Galway/Westmeath
v
Monaghan
Kerry
Meath
winner of Dublin/Cavan
The draw will be subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and, where possible, repeat pairings from Round 1.
Getting home advantage will likely be key
Galway 3-15 Westmeath 1-13
Westmeath running to stand still being unable to narrow the gap and the clock winding down.
Galway 3-16 Westmeath 1-14
Galway 3-16 Westmeath 1-16
Galway 3-16 Westmeath 1-17
3 points in a row for Westmeath. Maybe, maybe?
That was a westmeath line ball. Dreadful decision by linesman
Galway 3-17 Westmeath 1-17 Conroy restores the 6 point lead
Quote from: square_ball on June 14, 2026, 02:42:38 PMDoes Ger Canning not know there's a 2 pointer now?
Don't say he did it again?
Last year when Dublin were 2 points down near the end he said "Only a goal can save Dublin now"
Galway Westmeath game showing how much hard it is to close a gap when the 2 pointers aren't going over.
Westmeath only managed 1 in the 2nd half despite attempting a few.
Galway 3-19 Westmeath 1-17
Galway 3-20 Westmeath 1-19
Westmeath get their 2nd 2 pointer of the game
Goal for Westmeath, 4 points in it.
Galway 3-20 Westmeath 2-19
Westmeath goal. They couldn't could they?
Can already feel Donegal v Monaghan being drawn for round 3, especially given both are limited with who they can draw now
Results
Galway 3-21 Westmeath 2-21
Cavan 0-16 Dublin 1-24
Westmeath leave it too late.
Galway 3-21 Westmeath 2-21.
The goal just before half-time looks even worse for Westmeath now.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 14, 2026, 03:32:42 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 14, 2026, 02:42:38 PMDoes Ger Canning not know there's a 2 pointer now?
Don't say he did it again?
Last year when Dublin were 2 points down near the end he said "Only a goal can save Dublin now"
Was the same for Louth today. Unfortunately the hoors got one
Quote from: gallsman on June 14, 2026, 03:15:12 PM2A
Donegal
Armagh
Tyrone/Mayo
Westmeath
2B
Meath
Kerry
Monaghan
Dublin
Dublin v Donegal
Kerry v Armagh
Westmeath v Monaghan
Meath v Mayo/Tyrone
Thanks Gallsman and Blanketattack
Canning thought Joe McQuillan was playing for Armagh.
I would want Kerry next week. I don't think we are good enough to challenge. A game like that would prove it either way. That's with no disrespect to Dublin or Meath.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 03:54:44 PMCanning thought Joe McQuillan was playing for Armagh.
Eejit.
Sure Joe plays for Dublin ::)
Half-time Tyrone 0-8 Mayo 0-8
Marty Morrissey and Eamon Fitz are just terrible on Commentary.
The game is flat enough without them adding to it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 04:11:49 PMMarty Morrissey and Eamon Fitz are just terrible on Commentary.
The game is flat enough without them adding to it.
Am I the only one that likes Eamon Fitz? Would rather listen to him over someone that knows nothing about the game
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 04:11:49 PMMarty Morrissey and Eamon Fitz are just terrible on Commentary.
The game is flat enough without them adding to it.
Yeah both defences on top and forwards missing a lot. Far too many turnovers conceded from both as well.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 14, 2026, 04:15:53 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 04:11:49 PMMarty Morrissey and Eamon Fitz are just terrible on Commentary.
The game is flat enough without them adding to it.
Am I the only one that likes Eamon Fitz? Would rather listen to him over someone that knows nothing about the game
I think he's very good too. Always makes a big effort to inform viewers at home the stuff that's happening off camera.
Statistically speaking there's between a 50 and 66.7% of Armagh drawing Kerry depending on who wins this game.
Quote from: square_ball on June 14, 2026, 04:23:03 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 14, 2026, 04:15:53 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 04:11:49 PMMarty Morrissey and Eamon Fitz are just terrible on Commentary.
The game is flat enough without them adding to it.
Am I the only one that likes Eamon Fitz? Would rather listen to him over someone that knows nothing about the game
I think he's very good too. Always makes a big effort to inform viewers at home the stuff that's happening off camera.
He's very knowledgeable. He's just a bit dreary in delivery.
Good save by the Mayo keeper. Tyrone 0-11 Mayo 0-10
51 minutes played Tyrone 0-14 Mayo 0-13
Goal for Mayo a rare poor kick out by Morgan. 0-15 to 1-14 with 15 minutes to play.
Tyrone worked so hard in the 3rd quarter but have ended up behind after the Mayo goal.
That was nasty enough from Jordan Flynn. Wasn't using McGeary for leverage (not that he's allowed to), just stuck the knee in him.
Dazzler outstanding. Tyrone hanging in just about
10 minutes to play Tyrone 0-18 Mayo 1-16
Level game with 6 minutes left.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 04:55:30 PMDazzler outstanding. Tyrone hanging in just about
Motm if they win.
Teague playing a blinder and concedes a free point to Mayo for lead. Frustrating
Utter gobshite stuff from Teague there, and he's been having a stormer.
Quote from: gallsman on June 14, 2026, 05:03:43 PMUtter gobshite stuff from Teague there, and he's been having a stormer.
Tyrone gonna Tyrone
Daft way to gift the lead back to Mayo. 1-17 to 0-19. 5 minutes left.
Never a free for Mayo there. Kobe just got fronted and went down like a sack of spuds.
Level game 4 minutes left.
Mayo one in front with two mins left
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 05:04:25 PMNever a free for Mayo there. Kobe just got fronted and went down like a sack of spuds.
Stupid from Teague. Childish stuff.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 05:04:25 PMNever a free for Mayo there. Kobe just got fronted and went down like a sack of spuds.
Ah get fucked. Teague couldn't wait to scream in his face about missing a shot and gave him a shunt. Moronic, idiotic shite that could end up costing his team the game.
Tyrone 0-22 Mayo 1-18 with 90 seconds left.
All over Morgan the hero.
Tyrone in Quarter final. Skin of their teeth
Malachy taking a hit, let Brian Kennedy get stuck into that fan
Fisting over the bar in that situation was a shocking decision
Tyrone dark horses for All-Ireland.
So Armagh v Kerry it now likely is.
Huge kick from Morgan the difference, but poor decision making from Mayo on their last 2 attacks very costly. Could have easily gone for goal instead of fisting over, then AoS absolutely the wrong man to be taking on the shot at the end
Mayo will always disappoint
O'Shea should've retired
Cost mayo that game
What happened at the end? Looked like Malachy got hit by a bottle from the crowd.
Did someone just hit the Tyrone manager with a bottle. If so it and the Donegal steward brings a thuggish look to the game.
That was a poor decision from AOS. Didn't make much of an impact when he came on whereas McCurry was outstanding.
Two ballsy wins for Tyrone.
Quarter-finalists
Cork,Louth,Galway,Tyrone. (Three teams that played in Division 2 this year)
Draw tomorrow
2A losers: Donegal,Armagh,Westmeath,Mayo
2B winners: Monaghan,Kerry,Meath,Dublin
Mayo lost it...the goal was there to be taken. These goal chances when they come you need to take to win these big games
Quote from: Killala on June 14, 2026, 05:17:37 PMDid someone just hit the Tyrone manager with a bottle. If so it and the Donegal steward brings a thuggish look to the game.
That Cork supporter was throwing his fists up at anyone who came near him. He deserved what he got.
Quote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2026, 05:15:53 PMO'Shea should've retired
Cost mayo that game
O'Shea was brought on by Andy. It's up to Andy to make the big calls. The game was lost in the final minutes when Mayo had an overlap and a clear goal chance, but the player in possession bottled it and took the easy option point. That's where the game was lost.
Dazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2026, 05:18:01 PMQuarter-finalists
Cork,Louth,Galway,Tyrone. (Three teams that played in Division 2 this year)
Draw tomorrow
2A losers: Donegal,Armagh,Westmeath,Mayo
2B winners: Monaghan,Kerry,Meath,Dublin
Is it 2A v 2B teams
Yes
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 13, 2026, 04:51:03 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 11, 2026, 08:25:26 AMGood Morning All
Subs picks coming up..
Donegal V Cork Donegal get pipped by a swashbuckling Cork team
Galway V Westmeath Galway by 5+
Tyrone V Mayo Tyrone finally put a performance together to beat a bang average Mayo outfit
Louth V Armagh Louth have banned the sale of buckfast for 5 miles so crowd is dull & Armaghs shooting efficency finally catches up to them
Derry V Meath Forget about injuries Meath will swat away any hopes of a revival from Derry
Kildare V Kerry Yera Yera the Kingdom by at least a handful
Cavan V Dublin Dublin in dissaray will scrape by Cavan
Monaghan V Roscommon Monaghans age and overall form finally catch up in the AI
I'll look forward to the rest of these results coming in..
UP THE REBELS!
Had I known about roscommons sickly talisman id have called that differently too. 6/7 not bad at all.
Great end to a good weekend of football Look forward to Quarters now with Tyrone. 8) 8)
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2026, 05:15:42 PMMayo will always disappoint
I was wondering how they were going to conspire to losing this one. It was inevitable.
So tight that whoever lost it could point to a number of wee things. Tyrone dominated first 15 mins of second half but in that period Mayo got a couple of two pointers to stay in touch then the goal. Having got back into it the free conceded by the otherwise excellent Teague was a disaster. Mayo will point to that goal chance at the end - that would have finished the game.
Great to see the old timers standing up for Tyrone. The experience of winning a second tight Championship match in a row will stand to all the youngsters and there is plenty of hope after the disjointed league form. Are they capable of really competing at this stage, still not sure, but moving in the right direction now.
What is it about Sean Cavanagh and his snide comments?
A dose of a pundit
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Seans an Armagh man...
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 05:25:03 PMQuote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2026, 05:15:53 PMO'Shea should've retired
Cost mayo that game
O'Shea was brought on by Andy. It's up to Andy to make the big calls. The game was lost in the final minutes when Mayo had an overlap and a clear goal chance, but the player in possession bottled it and took the easy option point. That's where the game was lost.
Mayo fans will never admit that their cult hero is not a footballer.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 14, 2026, 05:32:56 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 13, 2026, 04:51:03 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 11, 2026, 08:25:26 AMGood Morning All
Subs picks coming up..
Donegal V Cork Donegal get pipped by a swashbuckling Cork team
Galway V Westmeath Galway by 5+
Tyrone V Mayo Tyrone finally put a performance together to beat a bang average Mayo outfit
Louth V Armagh Louth have banned the sale of buckfast for 5 miles so crowd is dull & Armaghs shooting efficency finally catches up to them
Derry V Meath Forget about injuries Meath will swat away any hopes of a revival from Derry
Kildare V Kerry Yera Yera the Kingdom by at least a handful
Cavan V Dublin Dublin in dissaray will scrape by Cavan
Monaghan V Roscommon Monaghans age and overall form finally catch up in the AI
I'll look forward to the rest of these results coming in..
UP THE REBELS!
Had I known about roscommons sickly talisman id have called that differently too. 6/7 not bad at all.
Great end to a good weekend of football Look forward to Quarters now with Tyrone. 8) 8)
Fair play to ya. Some fine predictions.
Tbh I would have picked Monaghan to do the rossies. But I'd also have picked Cavan mayo. The the rest I had a feeling of even though Louth needed a late goal. Both Armagh and Donegal are way overrated. Quaters id say and both will be out. Tyrone may make a semi final. But that's the end of Ulster involvement. For me depending on draw Meath may make another semi too. So we wait and see
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 14, 2026, 05:41:45 PMWhat is it about Sean Cavanagh and his snide comments?
A dose of a pundit
Finally got to Lee Keegan in the end, rather snide throughout, mission accomplished
Is subsequent draw for the quarter finals also taking place tomorrow morning? Some of us just don't have the time to be preoccupying ourselves with the banal machinations of the losers' play-off fixtures.
;)
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 05:25:03 PMQuote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2026, 05:15:53 PMO'Shea should've retired
Cost mayo that game
O'Shea was brought on by Andy. It's up to Andy to make the big calls. The game was lost in the final minutes when Mayo had an overlap and a clear goal chance, but the player in possession bottled it and took the easy option point. That's where the game was lost.
A fortnight ago a similar scenario was butchered and Monaghan got a goal on the break. It was a split second decision and Sam made the correct one, he would've needed to float a pass over the Tyrone back which isn't easy at the pace he was going.
During the game I sensed the bench would be the difference, Andy still gave O'Shea the chance, there was a time when the Mayo crowd would roar when he came on, now it's groans. The new rules don't suit him unfortunately.
Quote from: highorlow on June 14, 2026, 06:33:34 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 05:25:03 PMQuote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2026, 05:15:53 PMO'Shea should've retired
Cost mayo that game
O'Shea was brought on by Andy. It's up to Andy to make the big calls. The game was lost in the final minutes when Mayo had an overlap and a clear goal chance, but the player in possession bottled it and took the easy option point. That's where the game was lost.
A fortnight ago a similar scenario was butchered and Monaghan got a goal on the break. It was a split second decision and Sam made the correct one, he would've needed to float a pass over the Tyrone back which isn't easy at the pace he was going.
Or option A go for the shot himself? Has to go for the jugular there.
O rourke hit with a bottle at full time I see.
Are the Sam Maguire credit union loans on hold for now down in Ballina?
Every team has been beaten at least once. The purists will be objecting.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 14, 2026, 06:38:34 PMO rourke hit with a bottle at full time I see.
Are the Sam Maguire credit union loans on hold for now down in Ballina?
They were never applied for this year ya poor eejet.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 14, 2026, 05:34:38 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2026, 05:15:42 PMMayo will always disappoint
I was wondering how they were going to conspire to losing this one. It was inevitable.
It's inevitable when it's Mayo but it goes unnoticed when it's anyone else.
Quote from: highorlow on June 14, 2026, 06:33:34 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2026, 05:25:03 PMQuote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2026, 05:15:53 PMO'Shea should've retired
Cost mayo that game
O'Shea was brought on by Andy. It's up to Andy to make the big calls. The game was lost in the final minutes when Mayo had an overlap and a clear goal chance, but the player in possession bottled it and took the easy option point. That's where the game was lost.
A fortnight ago a similar scenario was butchered and Monaghan got a goal on the break. It was a split second decision and Sam made the correct one, he would've needed to float a pass over the Tyrone back which isn't easy at the pace he was going.
During the game I sensed the bench would be the difference, Andy still gave O'Shea the chance, there was a time when the Mayo crowd would roar when he came on, now it's groans. The new rules don't suit him unfortunately.
I'm afraid in the modern system it was a poor decision. It was the easy decision, but not the correct one.
Predictable result in Kingspan Breffni, a predictable Cavan performance and predictable exit. Both defences had gaps in the first half and although Dubs were getting scores that bit easier, Cavan were standing firm enough and only one down at the break. Until the 20th minute of the second half, the result was still a live issue but trailing by four or five, Cavan, by then living off scraps in attack, butchered a number of very scoreable opportunities they'd found very hard to come by. One of them a fortuitous goal chance that Gerry Smith just leathered like a donkey and hoped for the best. Real ploughman's stuff although to his credit, he had a very busy game otherwise and managed a point with this effort. You're just a pretence of an intercounty team when you're so brittle and lacking composure when the heat comes on and opportunites present, but very sadly, that's now very firmly Cavan's ingrained footballing culture, as evidenced by our minors' shitting the bed against Tyrone. You knew these misses would eventually drain our bravehearts (punishing conditions notwithstanding) and they'd soon check out mentally, so we duly caved in and Dublin won pulling up, despite not having played overly well themselves. There are no more soft touch opponents like Cavan left for the Dubs in the draw now, whose goalies will be handing them chance after chance, with lads missing points from 14 yards out and setting up their counter attacks.
That's McCabe's first year done. No real uptick or change of culture evident. Retirements incoming. Another season where we went through the motions gamely enough and gave a passable impression of a footballing county, but it's now going to get worse before it gets better.
Probabilities for Draw:
Mon-Don 50% Mon-WMe 50%
Wme-Ker 25% Wme-Mea 25%
Don-Dub 25% Don-Mea 25%
May-Dub 37.5% May-Mea 25% May-Ker 37.5%
Arm-Mea 25% Arm-Dub 37.5% Arm-Ker 37.5%
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Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2026, 07:29:31 PMPredictable result in Kingspan Breffni, a predictable Cavan performance and predictable exit. Both defences had gaps in the first half and although Dubs were getting scores that bit easier, Cavan were standing firm enough and only one down at the break. Until the 20th minute of the second half, the result was still a live issue but trailing by four or five, Cavan, by then living off scraps in attack, butchered a number of very scoreable opportunities they'd found very hard to come by. One of them a fortuitous goal chance that Gerry Smith just leathered like a donkey and hoped for the best. Real ploughman's stuff although to his credit, he had a very busy game otherwise and managed a point with this effort. You're just a pretence of an intercounty team when you're so brittle and lacking composure when the heat comes on and opportunites present, but very sadly, that's now very firmly Cavan's ingrained footballing culture, as evidenced by our minors' shitting the bed against Tyrone. You knew these misses would eventually drain our bravehearts (punishing conditions notwithstanding) and they'd soon check out mentally, so we duly caved in and Dublin won pulling up, despite not having played overly well themselves. There are no more soft touch opponents like Cavan left for the Dubs in the draw now, whose goalies will be handing them chance after chance, with lads missing points from 14 yards out and setting up their counter attacks.
That's McCabe's first year done. No real uptick or change of culture evident. Retirements incoming. Another season where we went through the motions gamely enough and gave a passable impression of a footballing county, but it's now going to get worse before it gets better.
Same old since the 1950s...
Delighted to get the win today, not the best quality game but very engaging with it being so close, level on 10 different occasions.
Couple of points, young Cassidy had a superb 1st half for us, some great link up play and always wanting to take on his man. Kept the score board ticking over too.
McCurry was sensational when he came on, he has always been a huge confidence player and you could tell he was well up for it. I was behind the goals he was shooting into and his 2nd point (I think) was absolutely over the post or just wide, not sure how it appeared on TV.
Brian Kennedy has turned into such an important player, he was like a senior playing minor football on those kick outs.
We weren't at our best today but buzzing to be in a QF. Feet up now and watch other teams beat the feck out of eachother next week.
To echo and earlier question, will the QF draws be fixed this week? I'm assuming not. Would be handy to know if we're out on the Saturday or Sunday.
Malachy o Rourke got alot of criticism in the league now sitting pretty in all Ireland quarter final.
The decision by Sam Callinan to not square the ball to Conroy was strange, Tyrone were always going to get another play to equalise it or get a two pointer to win. Flynn also missed a brilliant goal chance as did towey.
Have to feel for big O Shea the service hes given Mayo. Of course if he kicked a fairly simple score Moran would be hailed a genius, but maybe friendships and loyalty can mess with good judgement.
Same era as P Harte who some were hoping may make a return for the hard ground.
Where has Mayo's Tommy Conroy been in recent years?
I'd forgotten all about him.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 14, 2026, 08:21:00 PMWhere has Mayo's Tommy Conroy been in recent years?
I'd forgotten all about him.
Did he not do the cruciate?
Tommy Goals had a really bad cruciate tear and hasn't been the same since. Has struggled for form and fitness with quite a few other injuries in the interim. Today was as lively as I've seen him in a long time.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 14, 2026, 07:44:52 PMProbabilities for Draw:
Mon-Don 50% Mon-WMe 50%
Wme-Ker 25% Wme-Mea 25%
Don-Dub 25% Don-Mea 25%
May-Dub 37.5% May-Mea 25% May-Ker 37.5%
Arm-Mea 25% Arm-Dub 37.5% Arm-Ker 37.5%
I don't think that's right. Does that not consider each teams odds in isolation.
I thought there were 7 possible out comes.
Option 1
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Donegal
Meath v Mayo
Option 2
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Donegal
Option 3
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Donegal
Meath v Armagh
Option 4
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Donegal
Option 5
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Westmeath
Option 6
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Westmeath
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Armagh
Option 7
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Westmeath
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Mayo
So Monaghan will draw Westmeath in 4/7 of draws and Donegal in 3/7
Kerry draw Armagh in 3/7 Westmeath in 2/7 and Mayo in 2/7
Dublin draw Donegal in 2/7 Mayo in 3/7 and Armagh in 2/7
Meath draw Mayo in 2/7 Armagh in 2/7 Donegal in 2/7 and Meath in 1/7
Armagh draw Kerry in 3/7 Meath in 2/7 and Dublin 2/7
Westmeath drawn Monaghan in 4/7 and Meath in 1/7 and Kerry in 2/7
Donegal draw Monaghan in 3/7 Dublin in 2/7 and Meath in 2/7
Mayo draw Meath in 2/7 Dublin in 3/7 and Kerry in 2/7
Have I missed one or more possible outcomes?
Quote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 08:40:09 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 14, 2026, 07:44:52 PMProbabilities for Draw:
Mon-Don 50% Mon-WMe 50%
Wme-Ker 25% Wme-Mea 25%
Don-Dub 25% Don-Mea 25%
May-Dub 37.5% May-Mea 25% May-Ker 37.5%
Arm-Mea 25% Arm-Dub 37.5% Arm-Ker 37.5%
I don't think that's right. Does that not consider each teams odds in isolation.
I thought there were 7 possible out comes.
Option 1
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Donegal
Meath v Mayo
Option 2
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Donegal
Option 3
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Donegal
Meath v Armagh
Option 4
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Donegal
Option 5
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Westmeath
Option 6
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Westmeath
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Armagh
Option 7
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Westmeath
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Mayo
So Monaghan will draw Westmeath in 4/7 of draws and Donegal in 3/7
Kerry draw Armagh in 3/7 Westmeath in 2/7 and Mayo in 2/7
Dublin draw Donegal in 2/7 Mayo in 3/7 and Armagh in 2/7
Meath draw Mayo in 2/7 Armagh in 2/7 Donegal in 2/7 and Meath in 1/7
Armagh draw Kerry in 3/7 Meath in 2/7 and Dublin 2/7
Westmeath drawn Monaghan in 4/7 and Meath in 1/7 and Kerry in 2/7
Donegal draw Monaghan in 3/7 Dublin in 2/7 and Meath in 2/7
Mayo draw Meath in 2/7 Dublin in 3/7 and Kerry in 2/7
Have I missed one or more possible outcomes?
Quote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2026, 08:40:09 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 14, 2026, 07:44:52 PMProbabilities for Draw:
Mon-Don 50% Mon-WMe 50%
Wme-Ker 25% Wme-Mea 25%
Don-Dub 25% Don-Mea 25%
May-Dub 37.5% May-Mea 25% May-Ker 37.5%
Arm-Mea 25% Arm-Dub 37.5% Arm-Ker 37.5%
I don't think that's right. Does that not consider each teams odds in isolation.
I thought there were 7 possible out comes.
Option 1
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Donegal
Meath v Mayo
Option 2
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Donegal
Option 3
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Donegal
Meath v Armagh
Option 4
Monaghan v Westmeath
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Donegal
Option 5
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Armagh
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Westmeath
Option 6
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Westmeath
Dublin v Mayo
Meath v Armagh
Option 7
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Westmeath
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Mayo
So Monaghan will draw Westmeath in 4/7 of draws and Donegal in 3/7
Kerry draw Armagh in 3/7 Westmeath in 2/7 and Mayo in 2/7
Dublin draw Donegal in 2/7 Mayo in 3/7 and Armagh in 2/7
Meath draw Mayo in 2/7 Armagh in 2/7 Donegal in 2/7 and Meath in 1/7
Armagh draw Kerry in 3/7 Meath in 2/7 and Dublin 2/7
Westmeath drawn Monaghan in 4/7 and Meath in 1/7 and Kerry in 2/7
Donegal draw Monaghan in 3/7 Dublin in 2/7 and Meath in 2/7
Mayo draw Meath in 2/7 Dublin in 3/7 and Kerry in 2/7
Have I missed one or more possible outcomes?
Yes I missed one
Monaghan v Donegal
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Armagh
Meath v Westmeath
The original stats are correct. Never mind me.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 14, 2026, 05:32:56 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 13, 2026, 04:51:03 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 11, 2026, 08:25:26 AMGood Morning All
Subs picks coming up..
Donegal V Cork Donegal get pipped by a swashbuckling Cork team
Galway V Westmeath Galway by 5+
Tyrone V Mayo Tyrone finally put a performance together to beat a bang average Mayo outfit
Louth V Armagh Louth have banned the sale of buckfast for 5 miles so crowd is dull & Armaghs shooting efficency finally catches up to them
Derry V Meath Forget about injuries Meath will swat away any hopes of a revival from Derry
Kildare V Kerry Yera Yera the Kingdom by at least a handful
Cavan V Dublin Dublin in dissaray will scrape by Cavan
Monaghan V Roscommon Monaghans age and overall form finally catch up in the AI
I'll look forward to the rest of these results coming in..
UP THE REBELS!
Had I known about roscommons sickly talisman id have called that differently too. 6/7 not bad at all.
Great end to a good weekend of football Look forward to Quarters now with Tyrone. 8) 8)
Monaghan would've beaten the Rossies even with their talisman.
You can be forgiven that one serious erratum seeing as most every pundit went for the Rossies as well as every non-farney on board here. In fact if you thought Monaghan (your own county) had a fair chance you were deemed "cocky" by the fanatics. The prevailing dogma that held the Rossies as being infallible was something fierce.
Quote from: Main Street on June 14, 2026, 09:35:39 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 14, 2026, 05:32:56 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 13, 2026, 04:51:03 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on June 11, 2026, 08:25:26 AMGood Morning All
Subs picks coming up..
Donegal V Cork Donegal get pipped by a swashbuckling Cork team
Galway V Westmeath Galway by 5+
Tyrone V Mayo Tyrone finally put a performance together to beat a bang average Mayo outfit
Louth V Armagh Louth have banned the sale of buckfast for 5 miles so crowd is dull & Armaghs shooting efficency finally catches up to them
Derry V Meath Forget about injuries Meath will swat away any hopes of a revival from Derry
Kildare V Kerry Yera Yera the Kingdom by at least a handful
Cavan V Dublin Dublin in dissaray will scrape by Cavan
Monaghan V Roscommon Monaghans age and overall form finally catch up in the AI
I'll look forward to the rest of these results coming in..
UP THE REBELS!
Had I known about roscommons sickly talisman id have called that differently too. 6/7 not bad at all.
Great end to a good weekend of football Look forward to Quarters now with Tyrone. 8) 8)
Monaghan would've beaten the Rossies even with their talisman.
You can be forgiven that one serious erratum seeing as most every pundit went for the Rossies as well as every non-farney on board here. In fact if you thought Monaghan (your own county) had a fair chance you were deemed "cocky" by the fanatics. The prevailing dogma that held the Rossies as being infallible was something fierce.
This reasoning of "Monaghan's age catching up to them" seems a bit odd and outdated too tbh. Would have made much more sense a couple years ago when you had a handful of lads in their late 30s still playing big parts - but now I think there's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases.
The 2 pointer rule definitely suits Monaghan and Tyrone more than Armagh or Donegal who rely more on goals and "safe" points from close range.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2026, 11:27:36 PMThe 2 pointer rule definitely suits Monaghan and Tyrone more than Dublin or Armagh or Donegal who rely more on goals and "safe" points from close range.
Fixed that for you....
Quote from: blanketattack on June 14, 2026, 07:44:52 PMProbabilities for Draw:
Mon-Don 50% Mon-WMe 50%
Wme-Ker 25% Wme-Mea 25%
Don-Dub 25% Don-Mea 25%
May-Dub 37.5% May-Mea 25% May-Ker 37.5%
Arm-Mea 25% Arm-Dub 37.5% Arm-Ker 37.5%
Edit:
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Kerry v Westmeath 100% 50% Tralee or Mullingar 😉
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2026, 07:29:31 PMPredictable result in Kingspan Breffni, a predictable Cavan performance and predictable exit. Both defences had gaps in the first half and although Dubs were getting scores that bit easier, Cavan were standing firm enough and only one down at the break. Until the 20th minute of the second half, the result was still a live issue but trailing by four or five, Cavan, by then living off scraps in attack, butchered a number of very scoreable opportunities they'd found very hard to come by. One of them a fortuitous goal chance that Gerry Smith just leathered like a donkey and hoped for the best. Real ploughman's stuff although to his credit, he had a very busy game otherwise and managed a point with this effort. You're just a pretence of an intercounty team when you're so brittle and lacking composure when the heat comes on and opportunites present, but very sadly, that's now very firmly Cavan's ingrained footballing culture, as evidenced by our minors' shitting the bed against Tyrone. You knew these misses would eventually drain our bravehearts (punishing conditions notwithstanding) and they'd soon check out mentally, so we duly caved in and Dublin won pulling up, despite not having played overly well themselves. There are no more soft touch opponents like Cavan left for the Dubs in the draw now, whose goalies will be handing them chance after chance, with lads missing points from 14 yards out and setting up their counter attacks.
That's McCabe's first year done. No real uptick or change of culture evident. Retirements incoming. Another season where we went through the motions gamely enough and gave a passable impression of a footballing county, but it's now going to get worse before it gets better.
We won't be winning any more matches after today. Basquel and McGarry made a big difference off the bench. Cavan kicked too many wides in both halves.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 14, 2026, 11:27:36 PMThe 2 pointer rule definitely suits Monaghan and Tyrone more than Armagh or Donegal who rely more on goals and "safe" points from close range.
Any Tyrone man will tell you we have little to no 2 point threat from play. Genuinely most of our forwards do not have the range to kick them.
Jordan and Morgan from frees is our threat, Jordan will kick the odd one from play if he's on the pitch but that's not a given, that's about the height of it.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 08:05:12 PMHave to feel for big O Shea the service hes given Mayo. Of course if he kicked a fairly simple score Moran would be hailed a genius, but maybe friendships and loyalty can mess with good judgement.
Same era as P Harte who some were hoping may make a return for the hard ground.
Think Harte has more to offer due to his 2 point threat. Good to see the younger players taking on the challenge though
Monaghan v Westmeath
Dublin v Donegal
Mayo v Meath
Kerry v Armagh
Teams named 1st are at home
Season over.
Severe punishment dished out to Armagh for no closing out yestetday's game
Quote from: bennydorano on June 15, 2026, 08:46:53 AMSeason over.
would have to beat them at some stage. May as well be now..........
Bring them on. Time to see where we really stand.
Wellll its better getting Kerry early, you gonna have to play them to win it, only problem is, its a home game for them.
Quote from: straightred on June 15, 2026, 08:47:17 AMSevere punishment dished out to Armagh for no closing out yestetday's game
Not too bad of a draw for Armagh. Dublin are hit and miss this year. Drawing Mayo, kerry or Donegal would have been harder
That's some draw. Hard to call any of them fixtures. Football championship the gift that keeps on giving this year.
Quote from: Schkite on June 15, 2026, 08:43:39 AMMonaghan v Westmeath
Dublin v Donegal
Mayo v Meath
Kerry v Armagh
Teams named 1st are at home
Watched the draw. No problem with the pairings.
But who got home advantage was a disgrace. Surely could have done it a better way than the guy in the middle knowing which one. I called each of them as I watched which tube was which.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 15, 2026, 08:47:57 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 15, 2026, 08:46:53 AMSeason over.
would have to beat them at some stage. May as well be now..........
No, dont agree at all. Only yesterday I was saying here you need a bit of luck in all aspects, Armagh's really has deserted us. Stars aligning for Galway.
Dublin at home was the only draw I could have seen us winning to be perfectly honest.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2026, 08:54:14 AMQuote from: straightred on June 15, 2026, 08:47:17 AMSevere punishment dished out to Armagh for no closing out yestetday's game
Not too bad of a draw for Armagh. Dublin are hit and miss this year. Drawing Mayo, kerry or Donegal would have been harder
Am I missing something here??
Quote from: Tribesmen on June 15, 2026, 08:55:13 AMThat's some draw. Hard to call any of them fixtures. Football championship the gift that keeps on giving this year.
Agree each one is 50/50. With the home team having a slight advantage. Particularly if Dublin play Donegal in Parnell
Quote from: bennydorano on June 15, 2026, 08:56:18 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 15, 2026, 08:47:57 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 15, 2026, 08:46:53 AMSeason over.
would have to beat them at some stage. May as well be now..........
No, dont agree at all. Only yesterday I was saying here you need a bit of luck in all aspects, Armagh's really has deserted us. Stars aligning for Galway.
Dublin at home was the only draw I could have seen us winning to be perfectly honest.
every time we win an AI we beat Kerry along the way. Small sample size I know but still.
Terrific draw. All eight teams have a decent shout.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2026, 08:54:14 AMQuote from: straightred on June 15, 2026, 08:47:17 AMSevere punishment dished out to Armagh for no closing out yestetday's game
Not too bad of a draw for Armagh. Dublin are hit and miss this year. Drawing Mayo, kerry or Donegal would have been harder
we drew Kerry
30 years on from the famous brawl of 96. Meath and mayo go again.
Brim em on.
Hon the royal
GAA+ are down to show 3 games next weekend so RTE must be picking up the other one along with the 2 hurling games they are already showing.
Where will Dublin game be?
Quarter finals at a neutral venue is a good decision also
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 15, 2026, 08:56:12 AMQuote from: Schkite on June 15, 2026, 08:43:39 AMMonaghan v Westmeath
Dublin v Donegal
Mayo v Meath
Kerry v Armagh
Teams named 1st are at home
Watched the draw. No problem with the pairings.
But who got home advantage was a disgrace. Surely could have done it a better way than the guy in the middle knowing which one. I called each of them as I watched which tube was which.
In fairness to him, he did look out the window when drawing it but yes, it could have been done better.
Kerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
What is capacity of Killarney and the likelihood of getting a ticket?. Will they be on public sale?. Or clubs
Quote from: illdecide on June 15, 2026, 09:22:18 AMWhat is capacity of Killarney and the likelihood of getting a ticket?. Will they be on public sale?. Or clubs
38k according to google
Quote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
No lights in Killarney so they can't play it too late on Saturday with the possibility of extra time/pens. A lot will depend on TV, RTE will be pushing for this one and they've Tailteann Cup and hurling on Saturday so if it's on RTE it's likely to be 1.30 on Sunday as Cork-Offaly is on at 3.30.
If Kerry get knocked out at the weekend Tyrone could win this All-Ireland.
Quote from: illdecide on June 15, 2026, 09:22:18 AMWhat is capacity of Killarney and the likelihood of getting a ticket?. Will they be on public sale?. Or clubs
Was more or less sold out for the Munster final and that was just short of 32k, they might be able to squeeze a few more in so probably about 33k.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 15, 2026, 09:08:04 AMWhere will Dublin game be?
They said on TSG last night that Brennan wants it in Parnell Park.
Quote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
No, they may put it earlier as Donegal v Cork was. It would only be fair to give people a chance to travel, accommodation is very difficult to get now. They also need to get going on special trains.
Quote from: illdecide on June 15, 2026, 09:22:18 AMWhat is capacity of Killarney and the likelihood of getting a ticket?. Will they be on public sale?. Or clubs
Twice the space in Killarney as in Armagh, tickets will be easy enough to get if you can to Killarney and back.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2026, 08:48:51 AMWellll its better getting Kerry early, you gonna have to play them to win it, only problem is, its a home game for them.
Kerry would have preferred to play Armagh in Croke Park
Quote from: armaghniac on June 15, 2026, 09:46:51 AMQuote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
3 o'clock Saturday? Would be better to get it the Sunday from a recovery perspective, 6 day turnaround is a big ask especially with travel, Kerry have an extra day combined with having had a walk in the park compared to our hard hitting game.
No, they may put it earlier as Donegal v Cork was. It would only be fair to give people a chance to travel, accommodation is very difficult to get now. They also need to get going on special trains.
Quote from: fullback2023 on June 15, 2026, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
No lights in Killarney so they can't play it too late on Saturday with the possibility of extra time/pens. A lot will depend on TV, RTE will be pushing for this one and they've Tailteann Cup and hurling on Saturday so if it's on RTE it's likely to be 1.30 on Sunday as Cork-Offaly is on at 3.30.
You know it's on around the date of the Summer Solstice where it's bright 'til after 10:30!
As long as they're not thinking of a 9pm throw-in, I'm sure they'll be OK 🙄
Monaghan set for their 5th home game in the championship this year
Quote from: Schkite on June 15, 2026, 08:43:39 AMMonaghan v Westmeath
Dublin v Donegal
Mayo v Meath
Kerry v Armagh
Teams named 1st are at home
The Rafferty error will spell the end of the championship for Armagh or Kerry before the All-Ireland quarter-final that's a massive boost to the rest.
Cocky Monaghan heads will be even more cocky after that draw however Westmeath under McHugh will give a good fighting display than Roscommon who looked like a team that didn't want to be there.
Mayo v Meath will bring back memories of 1996. At home it's a game Mayo should be winning, Mayo as seen yesterday and indeed in all those past All-Ireland finals find ways to lose.
Dublin v Donegal I don't what to expect from Donegal anymore, most inconsistent year under McGuinness. Dublin only got this far by drawing Cavan. After losing to Louth,Westmeath in Croke Park I could understand why Brennan wouldn't want it played there.
As every pairing has a team that played Saturday and a team that played Sunday, fairest would be to put the teams with the shortest travel on the Saturday i.e. Monaghan-Westmeath and Mayo-Meath.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 15, 2026, 10:10:53 AMAs every pairing has a team that played Saturday and a team that played Sunday, fairest would be to put the teams with the shortest travel on the Saturday i.e. Monaghan-Westmeath and Mayo-Meath.
Yeah hoping for a Sunday game, bodies will be sore and that trip is a nightmare, I wonder will we look at flying down.
Quote from: Tribesmen on June 15, 2026, 08:55:13 AMThat's some draw. Hard to call any of them fixtures. Football championship the gift that keeps on giving this year.
Happy to be on the outside, looking in next weekend, that's for sure. Was happy enough with how we played yesterday bar the last 3 - 4 mad cap minutes. Left a few scores after us for sure so plenty to tidy up before a quarter final. A pretty clean bill of health for the squad also, which has not been the case the last few years. Getting Thompson back would be a huge addition.
Quote from: ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight on June 15, 2026, 10:08:59 AMMonaghan set for their 5th home game in the championship this year
Its really 4 but they've still been very fortunate with the draw this year.
You cant really count the ulster final....
Quote from: blanketattack on June 15, 2026, 10:06:35 AMQuote from: fullback2023 on June 15, 2026, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
No lights in Killarney so they can't play it too late on Saturday with the possibility of extra time/pens. A lot will depend on TV, RTE will be pushing for this one and they've Tailteann Cup and hurling on Saturday so if it's on RTE it's likely to be 1.30 on Sunday as Cork-Offaly is on at 3.30.
You know it's on around the date of the Summer Solstice where it's bright 'til after 10:30!
As long as they're not thinking of a 9pm throw-in, I'm sure they'll be OK 🙄
Just because it's still bright at 10.30 it doesn't mean you could play football in it. No one could rule out penalties (especially with Armagh's history!) and the last thing anyone wants to see is a penalty shootout in fading light with half the crowd struggling to see what's happening. 6pm would be fine but any later and if it goes beyond the opening 70 minutes all it would take is a few dark clouds to start to cause problems.
Play it in the dark, Armagh will need all the help they can get for this one ffs
Strange Killarney has no floodlights after big chunks of development at the stadium.
RTE are locked in with World Cup fixtures so don't want the hassle of a heavyweight GAA match
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on June 15, 2026, 10:42:36 AMPlay it in the dark, Armagh will need all the help they can get for this one ffs
definitely after yesterday thinking that myself
would say sunday at 1pm might be the time
Kerry still my favs
Galway the last chance saloon underdog. Big men and quality kickers.
It has to come good for Joyce
Any chance the GAA could do the right thing and schedule this for the Sunday?
I reckon if we have all our players back from injury, prison and rehab we can take Kerry!
Lovely comment....
Not an Armagh supporter obviously.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 15, 2026, 08:57:22 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2026, 08:54:14 AMQuote from: straightred on June 15, 2026, 08:47:17 AMSevere punishment dished out to Armagh for no closing out yestetday's game
Not too bad of a draw for Armagh. Dublin are hit and miss this year. Drawing Mayo, kerry or Donegal would have been harder
Am I missing something here??
Nope its me thats missing it. Had it in my head thst aramgh were playing dublin. Not the case.
Rumours of half 4 Saturday.
Lovely choice between a small fortune in a hotel or a late spin home!
More importantly not ideal having a days less rest.
QuoteRumours of half 4 Saturday.
Lovely choice between a small fortune in a hotel or a late spin home!
More importantly not ideal having a days less rest.
Is flying down from Dublin not an option for Armagh fans?
farranfore airport has a rail station a few hundreds yards away that will take you straight into Killarney. Probably the only airport in Ireland with such good rail links
Quote from: fullback2023 on June 15, 2026, 10:40:06 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 15, 2026, 10:06:35 AMQuote from: fullback2023 on June 15, 2026, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
No lights in Killarney so they can't play it too late on Saturday with the possibility of extra time/pens. A lot will depend on TV, RTE will be pushing for this one and they've Tailteann Cup and hurling on Saturday so if it's on RTE it's likely to be 1.30 on Sunday as Cork-Offaly is on at 3.30.
You know it's on around the date of the Summer Solstice where it's bright 'til after 10:30!
As long as they're not thinking of a 9pm throw-in, I'm sure they'll be OK 🙄
Just because it's still bright at 10.30 it doesn't mean you could play football in it. No one could rule out penalties (especially with Armagh's history!) and the last thing anyone wants to see is a penalty shootout in fading light with half the crowd struggling to see what's happening. 6pm would be fine but any later and if it goes beyond the opening 70 minutes all it would take is a few dark clouds to start to cause problems.
6pm? Are you nuts?
At 7pm at this time of year, the sun is as high above the horizon as it is at 2pm in February.
What dark hole do you live in?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 15, 2026, 10:44:30 AMStrange Killarney has no floodlights after big chunks of development at the stadium.
RTE are locked in with World Cup fixtures so don't want the hassle of a heavyweight GAA match
A number of county grounds have issues with no floodlights because they're surrounded by residential areas. Nowlan Park quite prominently so.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 15, 2026, 11:50:53 AMQuoteRumours of half 4 Saturday.
Lovely choice between a small fortune in a hotel or a late spin home!
More importantly not ideal having a days less rest.
Is flying down from Dublin not an option for Armagh fans?
farranfore airport has a rail station a few hundreds yards away that will take you straight into Killarney. Probably the only airport in Ireland with such good rail links
Return flight is 16:35. So a one day is not feasible. Last train is not selling seats either.
Mayo are Sh!te
They better not try and start any fights they can't win!
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Quote from: blanketattack on June 15, 2026, 11:57:44 AMQuote from: fullback2023 on June 15, 2026, 10:40:06 AMQuote from: blanketattack on June 15, 2026, 10:06:35 AMQuote from: fullback2023 on June 15, 2026, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:18:25 AMKerry v Armagh probably be Killarney on Saturday night, what you reckon? would leave it a 6 day turnaround after yesterday's disaster.
A room in Killarney on Saturday night going for E600+ ... like WTF lol
No lights in Killarney so they can't play it too late on Saturday with the possibility of extra time/pens. A lot will depend on TV, RTE will be pushing for this one and they've Tailteann Cup and hurling on Saturday so if it's on RTE it's likely to be 1.30 on Sunday as Cork-Offaly is on at 3.30.
You know it's on around the date of the Summer Solstice where it's bright 'til after 10:30!
As long as they're not thinking of a 9pm throw-in, I'm sure they'll be OK 🙄
Just because it's still bright at 10.30 it doesn't mean you could play football in it. No one could rule out penalties (especially with Armagh's history!) and the last thing anyone wants to see is a penalty shootout in fading light with half the crowd struggling to see what's happening. 6pm would be fine but any later and if it goes beyond the opening 70 minutes all it would take is a few dark clouds to start to cause problems.
6pm? Are you nuts?
At 7pm at this time of year, the sun is as high above the horizon as it is at 2pm in February.
What dark hole do you live in?
One where it's grey and cloudy for most of the year, including in summer!
There's no issue at 7pm and if throw in was at that time you'd be looking at the match finishing around 8.45 or so when it would still be bright. But they have to allow for extra time and pens if needed and in that case with all the messing around that goes on it's hard to see a penalty shootout starting before 9.40 at the earliest and sunset is at 9.55 this weekend.
It's very unlikely to happen and I expect Kerry to win in normal time, but if it did and penalties were being taken in bad light it wouldn't be a good look. Don't think it would cause the players any issue given they only need to see from the square to the goal but I wouldn't fancy being stood at the other end trying to see what was going on 150m away.
GAA+ had a schedule out at the start of the championship that only allowed for showing 3 games this weekend.
RTE are showing hurling Saturday/Sunday and there's two Tailteann cup games - wouldn't rule out Monaghan v Westmeath not being shown anywhere
fking hell the price of accommodation in killarney is ridiculous.
kerry should play in croke as its near enough a home ground for them
armagh by 3
f**k up about Derry ye stupid **** ye
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2026, 01:53:16 PMGAA+ had a schedule out at the start of the championship that only allowed for showing 3 games this weekend.
RTE are showing hurling Saturday/Sunday and there's two Tailteann cup games - wouldn't rule out Monaghan v Westmeath not being shown anywhere
FWIW, RTE are scheduled to show one round 3 game next weekend, though would that be one of three scheduled games on GAA+ or the game that GAA+ is neglecting?
Quote from: Main Street on June 15, 2026, 02:11:44 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2026, 01:53:16 PMGAA+ had a schedule out at the start of the championship that only allowed for showing 3 games this weekend.
RTE are showing hurling Saturday/Sunday and there's two Tailteann cup games - wouldn't rule out Monaghan v Westmeath not being shown anywhere
FWIW, RTE are scheduled to show one round 3 game next weekend, though would that be one of three scheduled games on GAA+ or the game that GAA+ is neglecting?
Didn't know that - could be Tailteann Cup neglected in that case, RTE to show one Round 3 game and GAA+ to show the rest potentially
Always thought that unless Kerry beat about this stage they won't be beat. This is the making or breaking of them. I think it's the perfect time for Armagh to get them. Though as is said here whether armagh beat them another thing.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2026, 02:29:12 PMAlways thought that unless Kerry beat about this stage they won't be beat. This is the making or breaking of them. I think it's the perfect time for Armagh to get them. Though as is said here whether armagh beat them another thing.
If we'd a full compliment I'd be fairly confident, but then again with a full compliment we'd have beat Louth. Still worryingly light around the middle and lose defensively.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2026, 02:21:25 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 15, 2026, 02:11:44 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2026, 01:53:16 PMGAA+ had a schedule out at the start of the championship that only allowed for showing 3 games this weekend.
RTE are showing hurling Saturday/Sunday and there's two Tailteann cup games - wouldn't rule out Monaghan v Westmeath not being shown anywhere
FWIW, RTE are scheduled to show one round 3 game next weekend, though would that be one of three scheduled games on GAA+ or the game that GAA+ is neglecting?
Didn't know that - could be Tailteann Cup neglected in that case, RTE to show one Round 3 game and GAA+ to show the rest potentially
RTE has one of the Tailteann Cup semi finals on RTE 1 or 2 then the other one is on the RTE News Channel.
GAA plus has 3 games and RTE has 1 in Round 3.
Same can be said about Kerry and their injuries.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/roscommon-crash-out-with-a-whimper-once-again-five-things-we-learned-from-the-gaa-weekend/
It has become a drearily familiar scene with the Rossies. Early-summer success frittered away once the temperature increases in the All-Ireland series. They've won four Connacht titles since 2010 – each time, they've exited the championship at the earliest possible stage of the competition thereafter.
Roscommon almost never knock anyone out of the championship these days. They finished above Cavan in the group stage two years ago and beat Tyrone the following weekend – but those two wins in eight days in June 2024 represent 50 per cent of their knock-out wins over the past decade. They finished above Sligo in the group stage in 2023 and beat Armagh in a qualifier in 2018. And that's it.
Armagh to push Kerry to the pin of their collar and come up painfully short.
Should be a serious contest shame its not in Croker.
The following game is very tricky for winners of this round. I expect Kerrys injuries are a tad hyped.
Quote from: seafoid on June 15, 2026, 02:51:06 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/roscommon-crash-out-with-a-whimper-once-again-five-things-we-learned-from-the-gaa-weekend/
It has become a drearily familiar scene with the Rossies. Early-summer success frittered away once the temperature increases in the All-Ireland series. They've won four Connacht titles since 2010 – each time, they've exited the championship at the earliest possible stage of the competition thereafter.
Roscommon almost never knock anyone out of the championship these days. They finished above Cavan in the group stage two years ago and beat Tyrone the following weekend – but those two wins in eight days in June 2024 represent 50 per cent of their knock-out wins over the past decade. They finished above Sligo in the group stage in 2023 and beat Armagh in a qualifier in 2018. And that's it.
A whiff of success goes to their heads. It's the Rossie way!
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2026, 11:43:03 AMRumours of half 4 Saturday.
Lovely choice between a small fortune in a hotel or a late spin home!
More importantly not ideal having a days less rest.
Ridiculous on fans the delay regarding which day the games are on
Would say discussions going on behind the scenes regarding the Armagh/kerry match day/time ,Dublin venue against Donegal and which games going free to air as against pay per view
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 15, 2026, 11:07:46 AMI reckon if we have all our players back from injury, prison and rehab we can take Kerry!
Disgusting comment!!
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2026, 02:37:56 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2026, 02:29:12 PMAlways thought that unless Kerry beat about this stage they won't be beat. This is the making or breaking of them. I think it's the perfect time for Armagh to get them. Though as is said here whether armagh beat them another thing.
If we'd a full compliment I'd be fairly confident, but then again with a full compliment we'd have beat Louth. Still worryingly light around the middle and lose defensively.
Maybe when Armagh had the full complement there were too many compliments flying around about them :)
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2026, 03:23:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 15, 2026, 11:07:46 AMI reckon if we have all our players back from injury, prison and rehab we can take Kerry!
Disgusting comment!!
Might be in bad taste but its hardly disgusting considering 2 out of the 3 comments are true and the 3rd one might yet be true.
Quote from: naka on June 15, 2026, 03:17:26 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2026, 11:43:03 AMRumours of half 4 Saturday.
Lovely choice between a small fortune in a hotel or a late spin home!
More importantly not ideal having a days less rest.
Ridiculous on fans the delay regarding which day the games are on
Would say discussions going on behind the scenes regarding the Armagh/kerry match day/time ,Dublin venue against Donegal and which games going free to air as against pay per view
Will be confirmed today you'd think. Turn around is a bastard with the travel but thats the price you pay for that shitshow yesterday.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2026, 03:32:10 PMQuote from: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2026, 03:23:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 15, 2026, 11:07:46 AMI reckon if we have all our players back from injury, prison and rehab we can take Kerry!
Disgusting comment!!
Might be in bad taste but its hardly disgusting considering 2 out of the 3 comments are true and the 3rd one might yet be true.
You surely know yourself comments like this are designed just to provoke and get a reaction. We could all drag up stuff on other counties but why be an asshole.
Wouldn't even quote it. Obviously a gobshite looking attention. Mocking a lad with addiction issues and mocking a rape case for what attention on here?
Quote from: Armamike on June 15, 2026, 03:43:26 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2026, 03:32:10 PMQuote from: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2026, 03:23:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 15, 2026, 11:07:46 AMI reckon if we have all our players back from injury, prison and rehab we can take Kerry!
Disgusting comment!!
Might be in bad taste but its hardly disgusting considering 2 out of the 3 comments are true and the 3rd one might yet be true.
You surely know yourself comments like this are designed just to provoke and get a reaction. We could all drag up stuff on other counties but why be an asshole.
I thought it was mildly amusing.
Bookies still have Kerry as AI favourites at 9/4. Donegal and Galway are 4/1. Armagh at 11/2.
Got us at 10/1 a few months back. Kerrys to lose atm, win next week and it's wide open but we'd be vulnerable against a rested quarter finalist.
I'd just be looking at the weekend. Give it everything and see where that leaves us.
Wonder if Paddypower have the info
They show the games down as Dublin v Donegal at 2pm on Saturday, Kerry v Armagh at 4pm, then on Sunday Mayo v Meath at 1pm and Monaghan v Westmeath at 3.30
It's an open All Ireland but Kerry will fancy winning it.
They got the home draw when it matters most and their traditional equal Dublin aren't strong this year.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2026, 02:37:56 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2026, 02:29:12 PMAlways thought that unless Kerry beat about this stage they won't be beat. This is the making or breaking of them. I think it's the perfect time for Armagh to get them. Though as is said here whether armagh beat them another thing.
If we'd a full compliment I'd be fairly confident, but then again with a full compliment we'd have beat Louth. Still worryingly light around the middle and lose defensively.
If Armagh give Clifford the space they gave to Louth yesterday, Kerry will win very easily.
Kerry nowhere near a full compliment either though.
5 day rest for Armagh. Very tough assignment but Kerry are not unbeatable in Killarney
Quote from: balladmaker on June 15, 2026, 09:16:21 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 15, 2026, 08:56:12 AMQuote from: Schkite on June 15, 2026, 08:43:39 AMMonaghan v Westmeath
Dublin v Donegal
Mayo v Meath
Kerry v Armagh
Teams named 1st are at home
Watched the draw. No problem with the pairings.
But who got home advantage was a disgrace. Surely could have done it a better way than the guy in the middle knowing which one. I called each of them as I watched which tube was which.
In fairness to him, he did look out the window when drawing it but yes, it could have been done better.
He did try. With the looking away. But it was nonsensical
Quote from: thejuice on June 15, 2026, 12:18:44 PMMayo are Sh!te
They better not try and start any fights they can't win!
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Love it. Was in the hill watching it
Years ago. Thought they'd start a fight with a bunch of kids. Ended loosing both the fight and the match.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2026, 05:14:26 PMKerry nowhere near a full compliment either though.
Looking at Kerry team against Kildare
Apart from Sean o Shea who is an obvious loss
It looked mighty strong
Not too many missing
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2026, 05:14:26 PMKerry nowhere near a full compliment either though.
Missing O'Shea, Shane Ryan, White (who came on) and O'Sullivan. They don't look that far away.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2026, 02:21:25 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 15, 2026, 02:11:44 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2026, 01:53:16 PMGAA+ had a schedule out at the start of the championship that only allowed for showing 3 games this weekend.
RTE are showing hurling Saturday/Sunday and there's two Tailteann cup games - wouldn't rule out Monaghan v Westmeath not being shown anywhere
FWIW, RTE are scheduled to show one round 3 game next weekend, though would that be one of three scheduled games on GAA+ or the game that GAA+ is neglecting?
Didn't know that - could be Tailteann Cup neglected in that case, RTE to show one Round 3 game and GAA+ to show the rest potentially
Official word from the horse's mouth (rte)
Dublin v Donegal has been fixed for Croke Park on Sunday with a 1.15pm throw-in.
It will be available to watch live on RTÉ One and RTÉ Player.
The remaining games will be broadcast on GAA+.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 15, 2026, 05:22:07 PM5 day rest for Armagh. Very tough assignment but Kerry are not unbeatable in Killarney
Will be harder bet now that Kerry have 12 of their first choice 15 available for selection. Putting the match on Saturday instead of Sunday shows HQ are desperate to have Kerry in All-Ireland Quarter-final.
Can't see Armagh go from losing to Louth to beating Kerry in Killarney in less than a week.
Four winners in Round 3 for me Donegal,Mayo,Monaghan and Kerry
It keeps getting better and better, our cup overflows
Not only do Monaghan get yet another home tie but it's scheduled for Sunday, maximum rest and recovery for our boys, not that they were too overstretched last saturday. All we need now is for Westmeath to not turn up, because according to the select (self appointed) brain's trust of game analysis on this thread, it's not that Monaghan play well and control a section of a game but rather it's the other team who go missing or don't turn up.
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Is there a special offer to buy all three games on gaa+ this weekend?
Quote from: seafoid on June 15, 2026, 02:51:06 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/roscommon-crash-out-with-a-whimper-once-again-five-things-we-learned-from-the-gaa-weekend/
It has become a drearily familiar scene with the Rossies. Early-summer success frittered away once the temperature increases in the All-Ireland series. They've won four Connacht titles since 2010 – each time, they've exited the championship at the earliest possible stage of the competition thereafter.
Roscommon almost never knock anyone out of the championship these days. They finished above Cavan in the group stage two years ago and beat Tyrone the following weekend – but those two wins in eight days in June 2024 represent 50 per cent of their knock-out wins over the past decade. They finished above Sligo in the group stage in 2023 and beat Armagh in a qualifier in 2018. And that's it.
Quote from: seafoid on June 15, 2026, 02:51:06 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/roscommon-crash-out-with-a-whimper-once-again-five-things-we-learned-from-the-gaa-weekend/
It has become a drearily familiar scene with the Rossies. Early-summer success frittered away once the temperature increases in the All-Ireland series. They've won four Connacht titles since 2010 – each time, they've exited the championship at the earliest possible stage of the competition thereafter.
Roscommon almost never knock anyone out of the championship these days. They finished above Cavan in the group stage two years ago and beat Tyrone the following weekend – but those two wins in eight days in June 2024 represent 50 per cent of their knock-out wins over the past decade. They finished above Sligo in the group stage in 2023 and beat Armagh in a qualifier in 2018. And that's it.
Would expect better from you Seafóidín, unlike that rhubarb p***k on the Sunday game.
We never lost to 12 men.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/people-are-asking-if-this-is-the-best-football-championship-ever-lets-not-go-there/
I can't say if it's the best football championship ever. But I'm certain about the two-pointer
Comparing eras is nigh-on impossible, but what can't be doubted is the brilliant impact of the two-pointer
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Sam Mulroy celebrates Louth's winning goal with teammate James Maguire at the end of Sunday's All-Ireland SFC round 2A match against Armagh at Páirc Grattan, Louth. Photograph: Laszlo Geczo/Inpho
Sam Mulroy celebrates Louth's winning goal with teammate James Maguire at the end of Sunday's All-Ireland SFC round 2A match against Armagh at Páirc Grattan, Louth. Photograph: Laszlo Geczo/Inpho
The 2004 Munster hurling final had just ended. Fourteen-man Waterford had beaten Cork in an epic contest and the late Micheál Ó Muircheartaigh stuck his head into the press box to ask a question: "Was it the best ever?"
Typical of his enthusiasm for events and contests, the implicit judgment was uncontrived but instant. When you think about these things, who knows? There had been more than 100 Munster finals by that stage, all of which nobody alive 22 years ago could have seen.
I am impressed by the certitude with which some can pronounce on the competing merits of teams and players from different eras, even if they have had the chance to watch them in person.
For instance, at the turn of the century, a correspondent from Wicklow – originally Kerry – wrote to dispute a reference to Mick O'Dwyer's team of the 1970s and 80s being the best of all time. He had seen both and believed Kerry's four-in-a-row players from 1929-32 were superior.
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Dublin's clash with Donegal to take place at Croke Park with early Sunday throw-in
Dublin's clash with Donegal to take place at Croke Park with early Sunday throw-in
GAA draw: Dublin to face Donegal in early Sunday throw-in at Croke Park as fixture details confirmed
GAA draw: Dublin to face Donegal in early Sunday throw-in at Croke Park as fixture details confirmed
Roscommon crash out with a whimper once again: Five things we learned from the GAA weekend
Roscommon crash out with a whimper once again: Five things we learned from the GAA weekend
A sincere belief and one grounded in personal experience, but did it take into account context and the prevailing competition? At the other end of the scale is the modern tendency to elevate contemporary performers, often without consideration for advances in sports science, preparation and equipment.
So, when the conversation broke out on Sunday about whether we are living through the greatest football championship in history, I was reticent. For a start, what are the metrics? Are breakthrough successes a cause for celebration – an acknowledgment that perseverance is being rewarded – or a sign that standards at the top have slipped?
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Then again, elite excellence doesn't really define great championships. Even if two teams peak in roughly the same era, the number of genuinely memorable matches tends to be limited. Take Dublin and Kerry. Everyone talks about the 1977 All-Ireland semi-final as one of the greatest ever, but it was also the only genuinely gripping match between the counties in that era.
How resonant was it for the country at large? I remember rhapsodising about the late and unexpected renewal of the rivalry in 2023 when a friend from neither county said his local conversations were with people unable to get that worked up about the 32nd championship meeting of the counties.
Dingle's Dylan Geaney kicks a two-pointer in the All-Ireland Senior Club Championship final against St Brigid's at Croke Park in January. Photograph: Dan Clohessy/Inpho
Dingle's Dylan Geaney kicks a two-pointer in the All-Ireland Senior Club Championship final against St Brigid's at Croke Park in January. Photograph: Dan Clohessy/Inpho
Framed another way, is this championship one of the most open and unpredictable? Undoubtedly.
It is impossible to decouple what has happened in the past two years from the work of the Football Review Committee (FRC) and its profound reshaping of the game.
When the two-pointer was being trialled and during the laboratory stage of last year's National League, the concern was that it would stretch the distance between teams of contrasting skill levels – a fear of thrashings that ultimately did for the idea of a four-point goal.
Yet the impact has, counterintuitively, been to assist the tightening of matches. In the past, a team slipping six, seven, eight points behind knew that this erosion of their chances on the scoreboard had no remedy because goals could be prevented by mass defending. And if that was the only route back into contention, it was easily blocked.
Two-pointers are different. They can defuse the impact of a goal. In the club final earlier this year, the air went out of St Brigid's tyres after they had scored what looked like a consequential goal, because Dingle went straight back up the field and Dylan Geaney kicked a two-pointer.
Teams now trailing in matches keep the faith a lot more tenaciously because they know there is way of recovering. What's more, it's an outlet for skilful kickers of the ball, so even if a county is under pressure from an apparently superior collective, it takes one accomplished marksman to keep them in touch.
Look at Cork on Saturday and the way Steven Sherlock – whose kicking exploits with St Finbarr's was the talk of the club championship – kept them afloat in a first half when they were under intense pressure from Donegal. He landed two two-pointers to keep the Rebels in touch at half-time in Ballybofey.
Their surge for the line was fuelled by the spectacular two-pointers shot by Luke Fahy and Tommy Walsh in the last five minutes.
Rory Beggan is Monaghan's goalkeeper and point-kicker supreme. Photograph: Tom O'Hanlon/Inpho
Rory Beggan is Monaghan's goalkeeper and point-kicker supreme. Photograph: Tom O'Hanlon/Inpho
Monaghan have also been beneficiaries, with Rory Beggan's preternatural kicking skills assisting them through to the last 12 of the championship.
That empowering of an individual talent can help any team lucky enough to have one available. Previously they could be double-teamed and stifled. Now, a two-point free is a potent survival tool, as is the ability to work an opening on the cusp of the arc.
Westmeath outscored Dublin on two-pointers in the Leinster final and did the same against Galway on Sunday, as their impressive rally whittled away the deficit but couldn't quite close it.
Louth are an exemplar. Sam Mulroy wasn't having his best game in last year's Leinster final, but from somewhere he dredged up the conviction to rifle over a two-point free, which turned the match against Meath for the last time.
At the same time, it's not simply an underdogs' charter. Kerry hardly bothered with two-pointers in last year's league, but by the time they got to Croke Park the talents of David Clifford and Seán O'Shea helped turn the county into brand leaders of the enhanced score.
Good footballers and good conditions on a good pitch – who'd have thought?
There have been results that would have been deemed impossible in the pre-FRC days. A year ago, Meath tanking Kerry by nine looked to be the last rites for Jack O'Connor's team, but they recovered.
There was further sensation at the weekend, nowhere more so than in Inniskeen where Ulster champions and All-Ireland frontrunners Armagh bit the dust in the face of the oldest act of deliverance – a chaotic goal just as time runs out.
The four provinces are represented in the quarter-finals but not by the provincial champions. And of the four already qualified, only Galway played Division One football this spring.
Best championship ever? Who cares? Just enjoy it.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 15, 2026, 06:32:57 PMQuote from: seafoid on June 15, 2026, 02:51:06 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/roscommon-crash-out-with-a-whimper-once-again-five-things-we-learned-from-the-gaa-weekend/
It has become a drearily familiar scene with the Rossies. Early-summer success frittered away once the temperature increases in the All-Ireland series. They've won four Connacht titles since 2010 – each time, they've exited the championship at the earliest possible stage of the competition thereafter.
Roscommon almost never knock anyone out of the championship these days. They finished above Cavan in the group stage two years ago and beat Tyrone the following weekend – but those two wins in eight days in June 2024 represent 50 per cent of their knock-out wins over the past decade. They finished above Sligo in the group stage in 2023 and beat Armagh in a qualifier in 2018. And that's it.
Quote from: seafoid on June 15, 2026, 02:51:06 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/roscommon-crash-out-with-a-whimper-once-again-five-things-we-learned-from-the-gaa-weekend/
It has become a drearily familiar scene with the Rossies. Early-summer success frittered away once the temperature increases in the All-Ireland series. They've won four Connacht titles since 2010 – each time, they've exited the championship at the earliest possible stage of the competition thereafter.
Roscommon almost never knock anyone out of the championship these days. They finished above Cavan in the group stage two years ago and beat Tyrone the following weekend – but those two wins in eight days in June 2024 represent 50 per cent of their knock-out wins over the past decade. They finished above Sligo in the group stage in 2023 and beat Armagh in a qualifier in 2018. And that's it.
Would expect better from you Seafóidín, unlike that rhubarb p***k on the Sunday game.
We never lost to 12 men.
I was disappointed to see that result. I always like to see the neighbours doing well, even when ye beat us.
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2026, 03:23:26 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 15, 2026, 11:07:46 AMI reckon if we have all our players back from injury, prison and rehab we can take Kerry!
Disgusting comment!!
Ah it's a great comment! Any word Robbie Tasker making a comeback too? He could turn the the screw(driver) on a few lads
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/15/people-are-asking-if-this-is-the-best-football-championship-ever-lets-not-go-there/
The four provinces are represented in the quarter-finals but not by the provincial champions. And of the four already qualified, only Galway played Division One football this spring.
Kildare, Derry, Cavan and Ros lost 2/2 and are out, as far as I can see.
You still here Seafoid? Tending to agree with Main Street - Monaghan's name is on the cup..
Quote from: Main Street on June 15, 2026, 06:04:55 PMIt keeps getting better and better, our cup overflows
Not only do Monaghan get yet another home tie but it's scheduled for Sunday, maximum rest and recovery for our boys, not that they were too overstretched last saturday. All we need now is for Westmeath to not turn up, because according to the select (self appointed) brain's trust of game analysis on this thread, it's not that Monaghan play well and control a section of a game but rather it's the other team who go missing or don't turn up.
Monaghan are certainly not getting the credit they deserve. After such a poor league, injuries being a major factor, they have re-emerged as the team who were hugely impressive in their quarter-final defeat to Donegal last year.
Meath v mayo. The Handicap has it -1 +1. The hardest game to call. With home advantage just tipping the bookies in mayos favour. For me. This has to be Meaths big performance of the year. So I'm gonna go with Meath by 4. But I'd take a et win of one
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 15, 2026, 09:23:11 PMMeath v mayo. The Handicap has it -1 +1. The hardest game to call. With home advantage just tipping the bookies in mayos favour. For me. This has to be Meaths big performance of the year. So I'm gonna go with Meath by 4. But I'd take a et win of one
If Meath kick the ball long on all their kickouts, they'll win with a bit to spare. Mayo won't be able to compete with them in the air.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2026, 05:55:22 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 15, 2026, 05:22:07 PM5 day rest for Armagh. Very tough assignment but Kerry are not unbeatable in Killarney
Will be harder bet now that Kerry have 12 of their first choice 15 available for selection. Putting the match on Saturday instead of Sunday shows HQ are desperate to have Kerry in All-Ireland Quarter-final.
Can't see Armagh go from losing to Louth to beating Kerry in Killarney in less than a week.
Four winners in Round 3 for me Donegal,Mayo,Monaghan and Kerry
I would be interested to see the reasoninhg/excuses. All said, Armagh have only themselves to blame.
What's the problem with the 6 day turnaround?
Quote from: thewobbler on June 15, 2026, 10:03:30 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 15, 2026, 09:23:11 PMMeath v mayo. The Handicap has it -1 +1. The hardest game to call. With home advantage just tipping the bookies in mayos favour. For me. This has to be Meaths big performance of the year. So I'm gonna go with Meath by 4. But I'd take a et win of one
If Meath kick the ball long on all their kickouts, they'll win with a bit to spare. Mayo won't be able to compete with them in the air.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 15, 2026, 10:03:30 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 15, 2026, 09:23:11 PMMeath v mayo. The Handicap has it -1 +1. The hardest game to call. With home advantage just tipping the bookies in mayos favour. For me. This has to be Meaths big performance of the year. So I'm gonna go with Meath by 4. But I'd take a et win of one
If Meath kick the ball long on all their kickouts, they'll win with a bit to spare. Mayo won't be able to compete with them in the air.
Absolutely agree, we completely dominated the MF battle yesterday, in particular, Mayo's restarts.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 15, 2026, 10:26:52 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2026, 05:55:22 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 15, 2026, 05:22:07 PM5 day rest for Armagh. Very tough assignment but Kerry are not unbeatable in Killarney
Will be harder bet now that Kerry have 12 of their first choice 15 available for selection. Putting the match on Saturday instead of Sunday shows HQ are desperate to have Kerry in All-Ireland Quarter-final.
Can't see Armagh go from losing to Louth to beating Kerry in Killarney in less than a week.
Four winners in Round 3 for me Donegal,Mayo,Monaghan and Kerry
I would be interested to see the reasoninhg/excuses. All said, Armagh have only themselves to blame.
Kerry with no excuses it's their match to lose on Saturday.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 16, 2026, 12:49:27 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 15, 2026, 10:26:52 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2026, 05:55:22 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 15, 2026, 05:22:07 PM5 day rest for Armagh. Very tough assignment but Kerry are not unbeatable in Killarney
Will be harder bet now that Kerry have 12 of their first choice 15 available for selection. Putting the match on Saturday instead of Sunday shows HQ are desperate to have Kerry in All-Ireland Quarter-final.
Can't see Armagh go from losing to Louth to beating Kerry in Killarney in less than a week.
Four winners in Round 3 for me Donegal,Mayo,Monaghan and Kerry
I would be interested to see the reasoninhg/excuses. All said, Armagh have only themselves to blame.
Kerry with no excuses it's their match to lose on Saturday.
Giving up their All Ireland title, in Killarney? They'll be pumped.
Not an ideal draw from an Armagh perspective, got what they deserved for not being able to manage out the game against Louth.
This will be a proper championship game with both teams knowing there are no second chances.
From an Armagh perspective I think we need to get Murnin, Hughes and McCambridge into the team for this week to stand any chance. I have big concerns about Armagh around the middle against Kerry who have some huge men.
Blaine's short kick outs would be crucial to help Armagh get primary possession and avoid a repeat of the 15 minutes in Croke Park two years ago.
Hughes
McCambridge McKay Murphy
McCabe TK McQuillan
Murnin JOB
Joe Mc McMullan Duffy
Cian Turbo Conaty
Quote from: statto on June 16, 2026, 09:14:26 AMNot an ideal draw from an Armagh perspective, got what they deserved for not being able to manage out the game against Louth.
This will be a proper championship game with both teams knowing there are no second chances.
From an Armagh perspective I think we need to get Murnin, Hughes and McCambridge into the team for this week to stand any chance. I have big concerns about Armagh around the middle against Kerry who have some huge men.
Blaine's short kick outs would be crucial to help Armagh get primary possession and avoid a repeat of the 15 minutes in Croke Park two years ago.
Hughes
McCambridge McKay Murphy
McCabe TK McQuillan
Murnin JOB
Joe Mc McMullan Duffy
Cian Turbo Conaty
We'd a similar 15 minutes against them in Armagh in the league, think they went 8 points up and that was with Blaine kicking. Would be a huge ask for McCambridge to come back in as he's had little or no football since trying to mark Clifford last year in Croke Park and obviously Peter McGrane isn't getting dropped.
Will Hughes be available? I think last weekend showed (way before the goal) that you need him to be at your best.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2026, 09:21:15 AMQuote from: statto on June 16, 2026, 09:14:26 AMNot an ideal draw from an Armagh perspective, got what they deserved for not being able to manage out the game against Louth.
This will be a proper championship game with both teams knowing there are no second chances.
From an Armagh perspective I think we need to get Murnin, Hughes and McCambridge into the team for this week to stand any chance. I have big concerns about Armagh around the middle against Kerry who have some huge men.
Blaine's short kick outs would be crucial to help Armagh get primary possession and avoid a repeat of the 15 minutes in Croke Park two years ago.
Hughes
McCambridge McKay Murphy
McCabe TK McQuillan
Murnin JOB
Joe Mc McMullan Duffy
Cian Turbo Conaty
We'd a similar 15 minutes against them in Armagh in the league, think they went 8 points up and that was with Blaine kicking. Would be a huge ask for McCambridge to come back in as he's had little or no football since trying to mark Clifford last year in Croke Park and obviously Peter McGrane isn't getting dropped.
I had actually forgotten that spell in the league game, from memory after that Armagh played quite well and where alot better on kickouts. Crealey played that day who will be a huge loss and Murnin didn't, really don't see Armagh winning if Andy doesn't make it.
Monaghan v Westmeath- fancy Monaghan with home advantage to come through that win over Roscommon and how they have applied themselves in Championship after an awful league should give them confidence.
Mayo v Meath- Meath will have got a big lift after going and winning in Derry, think they can upset the odds here and they will fancy the job against any of the seeds in quarter final.
Dublin v Donegal- Donegal by 5/6 the open spaces of Croke Park will suit Donegal running game and Dubs too open at the back. Donegal will exploit Dublin's vulnerability in goal.
Quote from: statto on June 16, 2026, 09:34:59 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2026, 09:21:15 AMQuote from: statto on June 16, 2026, 09:14:26 AMNot an ideal draw from an Armagh perspective, got what they deserved for not being able to manage out the game against Louth.
This will be a proper championship game with both teams knowing there are no second chances.
From an Armagh perspective I think we need to get Murnin, Hughes and McCambridge into the team for this week to stand any chance. I have big concerns about Armagh around the middle against Kerry who have some huge men.
Blaine's short kick outs would be crucial to help Armagh get primary possession and avoid a repeat of the 15 minutes in Croke Park two years ago.
Hughes
McCambridge McKay Murphy
McCabe TK McQuillan
Murnin JOB
Joe Mc McMullan Duffy
Cian Turbo Conaty
We'd a similar 15 minutes against them in Armagh in the league, think they went 8 points up and that was with Blaine kicking. Would be a huge ask for McCambridge to come back in as he's had little or no football since trying to mark Clifford last year in Croke Park and obviously Peter McGrane isn't getting dropped.
I had actually forgotten that spell in the league game, from memory after that Armagh played quite well and where alot better on kickouts. Crealey played that day who will be a huge loss and Murnin didn't, really don't see Armagh winning if Andy doesn't make it.
Yeah we were sensational after that and probably should have won the game. Crealey goes without saying is a huge loss the way the rules are, going by Geezers interview Blaine and Andy should be alright for the weekend. It's do or die time now so if they're half right safer firing them on.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
Galway are under the radar. They'd be the quarter final that Kerry would want to avoid.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 16, 2026, 11:55:30 AMGalway are under the radar. They'd be the quarter final that Kerry would want to avoid.
See what you did there
Current PaddyPower Odds
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 4/1
Galway 9/2
Armagh 11/2
Tyrone 12/1
Cork 18/1
Mayo 20/1
Louth 20/1
Meath 20/1
Monaghan 25/1
Dublin 25/1
Westmeath 40/1
Galway/Tyrone/Cork/Louth odds all obviously affected by already being in the quarter-finals (so only having to win 3 games to win Sam verus the other 8 having to win 4 games.
Those Tyrone huers could be good value at that. Galway and Kerry best placed for me. Hopefully we can upset the applecart on Saturday, would be some result to knock that shower out on home turf
Quote from: statto on June 16, 2026, 09:39:10 AMDublin v Donegal- Donegal by 5/6 the open spaces of Croke Park will suit Donegal running game and Dubs too open at the back. Donegal will exploit Dublin's vulnerability in goal.
Donegal didn't manage to police the open spaces when Cork were going at them.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 11:45:31 AMQuote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
The point is the big day. McCurry essentially dragged Tyrone over the line and has done it on the crucial big days many times reliably.
I would like Galway to win Sam if we dont btw, they will need Walsh to deliver what hes capable of.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 16, 2026, 12:49:48 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 11:45:31 AMQuote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
The point is the big day. McCurry essentially dragged Tyrone over the line and has done it on the crucial big days many times reliably.
I would like Galway to win Sam if we dont btw, they will need Walsh to deliver what hes capable of.
Galway have a good chance. However, one of Kerry, Donegal or Armagh (in that order) is going to get their act together and that game will determine the outcome.
I can't see anyone but Kerry winning Sam. They've been there and done it.
Armagh will put it up to them for long stretches but can't see them get within 6 points.
Kerry have a couple of injuries, but this is exactly the type of game they need at this time, and at home. They'll get the swagger back beating Armagh , and will push on from there .
Kerry will beat Louth or Tyrone off the field in Croke Park. Them and a rested Galway would be some game in a quarter final.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 16, 2026, 12:22:18 PMCurrent PaddyPower Odds
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 4/1
Galway 9/2
Armagh 11/2
Tyrone 12/1
Cork 18/1
Mayo 20/1
Louth 20/1
Meath 20/1
Monaghan 25/1
Dublin 25/1
Westmeath 40/1
Galway/Tyrone/Cork/Louth odds all obviously affected by already being in the quarter-finals (so only having to win 3 games to win Sam verus the other 8 having to win 4 games.
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Few squid on Meath at that price.
Predictions for quarter final (personal opinion)
Cork v Monaghan 4pm Saturday
Louth v Kerry 6pm Saturday
Tyrone v Meath 2pm Sunday
Galway v Donegal 4pm Sunday
Going against the grain as Tyrone usually get the Saturday games in Croker.
Yup thats why only chance I see for Tyrone is Armagh taking out Kerry.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 16, 2026, 12:49:48 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 11:45:31 AMQuote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
The point is the big day. McCurry essentially dragged Tyrone over the line and has done it on the crucial big days many times reliably.
I would like Galway to win Sam if we dont btw, they will need Walsh to deliver what hes capable of.
What about the big day? Did Shane Walsh not kick 9 points in the All Ireland final with the old rules?
McCurry has done it plenty of times for Tyrone but he never got a kick v Kerry last year - that's complete cherry picking. Walsh is a class act don't want to hear about big days
Galway are my dark(ish) horse for the AI.
Steadily improving and the Westmeath game will have done them the world of good.
Meath, by far the better side against Derry. I can see them beating a big hitter in the QF and I think they'll take Mayo first. They are very strong in that middle 8 area. Also a dark horse for the AI.
Louth will have some belief after the weekend win, they're really strong, but it still feels like if Mulroy is off his game or marked out of it, they'll really struggle for the big scores. But again, they could beat anyone on any given day.
Kerry for me still the favorites - though Armagh will give them their fill.
Cork - who knows! Derry beat them by 20+ points in the league, and now they go and beat Donegal. They'll be confident after that, whereas the Donegal confidence will be hit. That's defeats by Down and Cork in the championship, not sure you'd see Kerry/Armagh getting beat by those two so I think Donegal might be slipping back a small bit from the favourites tag.
I can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMGalway are my dark(ish) horse for the AI.
Steadily improving and the Westmeath game will have done them the world of good.
Meath, by far the better side against Derry. I can see them beating a big hitter in the QF and I think they'll take Mayo first. They are very strong in that middle 8 area. Also a dark horse for the AI.
Louth will have some belief after the weekend win, they're really strong, but it still feels like if Mulroy is off his game or marked out of it, they'll really struggle for the big scores. But again, they could beat anyone on any given day.
Kerry for me still the favorites - though Armagh will give them their fill.
Cork - who knows! Derry beat them by 20+ points in the league, and now they go and beat Donegal. They'll be confident after that, whereas the Donegal confidence will be hit. That's defeats by Down and Cork in the championship, not sure you'd see Kerry/Armagh getting beat by those two so I think Donegal might be slipping back a small bit from the favourites tag.
I can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
Never write that shower of huers off!
If we're beat will be cheering for Galway, supporters that I've encountered are a decent bunch of lads, will never forget the amount of ones shaking hands and wishing us well after the '24 final. Probably wouldn't even begrudge Tyrone that much if they won it, they were fairly decent to us in '24 as well.
Anyone but Donegal really I suppose.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2026, 04:05:01 PMAnyone but Donegal really I suppose.
Are Donegal the new Tyrone, questionable temperament/entitled?
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMGalway are my dark(ish) horse for the AI.
Steadily improving and the Westmeath game will have done them the world of good.
Meath, by far the better side against Derry. I can see them beating a big hitter in the QF and I think they'll take Mayo first. They are very strong in that middle 8 area. Also a dark horse for the AI.
Louth will have some belief after the weekend win, they're really strong, but it still feels like if Mulroy is off his game or marked out of it, they'll really struggle for the big scores. But again, they could beat anyone on any given day.
Kerry for me still the favorites - though Armagh will give them their fill.
Cork - who knows! Derry beat them by 20+ points in the league, and now they go and beat Donegal. They'll be confident after that, whereas the Donegal confidence will be hit. That's defeats by Down and Cork in the championship, not sure you'd see Kerry/Armagh getting beat by those two so I think Donegal might be slipping back a small bit from the favourites tag.
I can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
Broadly agree with you. Speaking to Westmeath lads they were shocked that Galway beat them thought they would win with a bit to spare. Is that delusional or actually merited is what we will have to see . If they beat Monaghan then they could be right.
Dublin still could have a sting in a dying wasp. And I believe they will beat Donegal but as far as they will go. Louth are the enigma, we were 11 up at half time and needed a wonder 2 pointer to scrape a win in league. As Armagh learned they never beat.
On the face of it some might say a 3 point win over Westmeath was nothing special but did think it Galway did play well for most of that second half and were 9 points up with 5 minutes left. I was very impressed with Westmeath, got a lot going for them.
Hernon did very well on Heslin who didn't score from play and D'Arcy had a brilliant game getting his hands to 8 kick outs. Galway got scores very easily all day and Conroy's 2 pointer was the only kick from any sort of distance.
First time Galway have had a break before the quarter finals since 2022 and with the injury profile of this panel the break was badly needed. Don't think its now or never for this panel but its hard too imagine Joyce coming back next year.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 02:21:30 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 16, 2026, 12:49:48 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 11:45:31 AMQuote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
The point is the big day. McCurry essentially dragged Tyrone over the line and has done it on the crucial big days many times reliably.
I would like Galway to win Sam if we dont btw, they will need Walsh to deliver what hes capable of.
What about the big day? Did Shane Walsh not kick 9 points in the All Ireland final with the old rules?
McCurry has done it plenty of times for Tyrone but he never got a kick v Kerry last year - that's complete cherry picking. Walsh is a class act don't want to hear about big days
Then the next year he kicked 2, 1 of which was a free.
Quote from: tiempo on June 16, 2026, 04:45:29 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2026, 04:05:01 PMAnyone but Donegal really I suppose.
Are Donegal the new Tyrone, questionable temperament/entitled?
In my book, yes.
Their antics , Murphy in particular, this last couple of years , are on a par (if not worse) with Tyrone in the 2000's.
I've lost all respect for them, especially Murphy, who I was a big fan of over the years.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 16, 2026, 05:11:16 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 02:21:30 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 16, 2026, 12:49:48 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 11:45:31 AMQuote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
The point is the big day. McCurry essentially dragged Tyrone over the line and has done it on the crucial big days many times reliably.
I would like Galway to win Sam if we dont btw, they will need Walsh to deliver what hes capable of.
What about the big day? Did Shane Walsh not kick 9 points in the All Ireland final with the old rules?
McCurry has done it plenty of times for Tyrone but he never got a kick v Kerry last year - that's complete cherry picking. Walsh is a class act don't want to hear about big days
5 were frees. In 2024 final he kicked 2 points, 1 of which was a free.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 16, 2026, 05:13:14 PMQuote from: tiempo on June 16, 2026, 04:45:29 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2026, 04:05:01 PMAnyone but Donegal really I suppose.
Are Donegal the new Tyrone, questionable temperament/entitled?
In my book, yes.
Their antics , Murphy in particular, this last couple of years , are on a par (if not worse) with Tyrone in the 2000's.
I've lost all respect for them, especially Murphy, who I was a big fan of over the years.
I don't know I never remember any Tyrone ones calling us Brits or telling us to f**k off back to Britain tbf.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2026, 04:05:01 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMGalway are my dark(ish) horse for the AI.
Steadily improving and the Westmeath game will have done them the world of good.
Meath, by far the better side against Derry. I can see them beating a big hitter in the QF and I think they'll take Mayo first. They are very strong in that middle 8 area. Also a dark horse for the AI.
Louth will have some belief after the weekend win, they're really strong, but it still feels like if Mulroy is off his game or marked out of it, they'll really struggle for the big scores. But again, they could beat anyone on any given day.
Kerry for me still the favorites - though Armagh will give them their fill.
Cork - who knows! Derry beat them by 20+ points in the league, and now they go and beat Donegal. They'll be confident after that, whereas the Donegal confidence will be hit. That's defeats by Down and Cork in the championship, not sure you'd see Kerry/Armagh getting beat by those two so I think Donegal might be slipping back a small bit from the favourites tag.
I can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
Never write that shower of huers off!
If we're beat will be cheering for Galway, supporters that I've encountered are a decent bunch of lads, will never forget the amount of ones shaking hands and wishing us well after the '24 final. Probably wouldn't even begrudge Tyrone that much if they won it, they were fairly decent to us in '24 as well.
Anyone but Donegal really I suppose.
You shouldn't be talking like that while your own county is still involved in the championship.
It's like talking about going to somebody's wake, while they're still alive.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF.
Any of those teams can reach the All-Ireland semi-final.
The team I'd give the least chance is the former stand out team Dublin and mainly because of how far they have fallen back.
Westmeath v Louth,Cork could go either way.
Monaghan reached the semi-finals a few years ago with about 12 of those players that featured then still around and Tyrone reached the last 4 last year.
Should Mayo overcome Meath and I believe haven't lost to them in MacHale Park since the 60s are then more than capable of beating Louth,Cork and even Galway.
Is there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
From the starters I think Peter Teague and Cormac Quinn. A few lads on the panel wouldn't have either. Ben Cullen would have had an u20 AI medal but was used in the senior squad throughout the year and never dropped down to the u20s.
The Kerry v Armagh game is perfect for both teams...Kerry have Armagh at home with a lot of their players coming back to fitness and getting some game time and sharpness into their legs, If they win it'll galvanise them and bring them onto the next level that they'll need to win SAM again!!!.
As for Armagh...I would rather play Kerry now than in 5-6 weeks time when they will totally be flying, if we can get them off the pace a bit and hope the 2 Cliffords are having an off day then we have a chance. My concern is McCambridge not playing, now I don't know how training is going and I'm not in the loop at all but if he can't get on ahead of Aidan Forker who in my book is on the wane then something is wrong, B McCambridge is clearly not fit or not performing at training but a lad that was an All Star 2 years ago and up for player of the year not getting a run out then I can't answer that. If he was to get a game on Sat it would be unfair on him having no minutes in the legs...Training only gets you so far but you need game time.
A Murnin and Blaine will be back for Saturday but a bold move would be to throw Ethan Rafferty into the middle, he's a big lad and can field a ball (well majority of the time). I suppose he'd be a bit like McCambridge wouldn't have the game time in the legs but he has been involved and could even be a last 20 mins man. Armagh miss Ben Crealey more than we know around the middle, we just don't have that big 6'5" big hoor of a man to be a nuisance and throw himself about.
My head says Kerry but the heart says Armagh...Hope the heart is right.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
O'Kane maybe? Has Cormac Quinn, Teague, Oguz? Imagine there is a few others but not many
Quote from: illdecide on June 16, 2026, 06:25:13 PMThe Kerry v Armagh game is perfect for both teams...Kerry have Armagh at home with a lot of their players coming back to fitness and getting some game time and sharpness into their legs, If they win it'll galvanise them and bring them onto the next level that they'll need to win SAM again!!!.
As for Armagh...I would rather play Kerry now than in 5-6 weeks time when they will totally be flying, if we can get them off the pace a bit and hope the 2 Cliffords are having an off day then we have a chance. My concern is McCambridge not playing, now I don't know how training is going and I'm not in the loop at all but if he can't get on ahead of Aidan Forker who in my book is on the wane then something is wrong, B McCambridge is clearly not fit or not performing at training but a lad that was an All Star 2 years ago and up for player of the year not getting a run out then I can't answer that. If he was to get a game on Sat it would be unfair on him having no minutes in the legs...Training only gets you so far but you need game time.
A Murnin and Blaine will be back for Saturday but a bold move would be to throw Ethan Rafferty into the middle, he's a big lad and can field a ball (well majority of the time). I suppose he'd be a bit like McCambridge wouldn't have the game time in the legs but he has been involved and could even be a last 20 mins man. Armagh miss Ben Crealey more than we know around the middle, we just don't have that big 6'5" big hoor of a man to be a nuisance and throw himself about.
My head says Kerry but the heart says Armagh...Hope the heart is right.
Funny enough I fancy us to win
Chatting to mates and can't believe the numbers who are heading down
Thought Sunday would have knocked the stuffing out of us but hope springs eternal , long journey but so be it .
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 07:06:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
O'Kane maybe? Has Cormac Quinn, Teague, Oguz? Imagine there is a few others but not many
Teague has a Senior medal from 2021, he was a panellist. O'Kane (as one of the substitute goalies) and Oguz have All Ireland u17 medals from 2017. Unsure about Cormac Quinn, he joined the Senior panel in 2022.
Wondered why Rafferty was never tried outfield in the 2 pt era. Time yet
Quote from: RoundBall on June 16, 2026, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 07:06:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
O'Kane maybe? Has Cormac Quinn, Teague, Oguz? Imagine there is a few others but not many
Teague has a Senior medal from 2021, he was a panellist. O'Kane (as one of the substitute goalies) and Oguz have All Ireland u17 medals from 2017. Unsure about Cormac Quinn, he joined the Senior panel in 2022.
From 2017 in minors? Tyrone won minor All Ireland in 2010 and not again until last year I think. Open to correction
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 08:12:53 PMQuote from: RoundBall on June 16, 2026, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 07:06:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
O'Kane maybe? Has Cormac Quinn, Teague, Oguz? Imagine there is a few others but not many
Teague has a Senior medal from 2021, he was a panellist. O'Kane (as one of the substitute goalies) and Oguz have All Ireland u17 medals from 2017. Unsure about Cormac Quinn, he joined the Senior panel in 2022.
From 2017 in minors? Tyrone won minor All Ireland in 2010 and not again until last year I think. Open to correction
That was the first ever u17 as minors in 2017. U18 was the main minor competition that year so the one Tyrone won wasn't that illustrious. Darragh Canavan scored a clinker of a goal in that final.
I think Mayo will beat Meath. Those 2 corner forwards.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 16, 2026, 06:02:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF.
Any of those teams can reach the All-Ireland semi-final.
The team I'd give the least chance is the former stand out team Dublin and mainly because of how far they have fallen back.
Westmeath v Louth,Cork could go either way.
Monaghan reached the semi-finals a few years ago with about 12 of those players that featured then still around and Tyrone reached the last 4 last year.
Should Mayo overcome Meath and I believe haven't lost to them in MacHale Park since the 60s are then more than capable of beating Louth,Cork and even Galway.
Don't think we played mayo in mchale park that much since 60s and don't think we played championship against them ever in it. Sure same was said of brefni v Cavan. Went and won there. Meath while not been over confident are very very happy with the draw. Thats all I'll say
Quote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Quote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 08:27:10 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 08:12:53 PMQuote from: RoundBall on June 16, 2026, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 07:06:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
O'Kane maybe? Has Cormac Quinn, Teague, Oguz? Imagine there is a few others but not many
Teague has a Senior medal from 2021, he was a panellist. O'Kane (as one of the substitute goalies) and Oguz have All Ireland u17 medals from 2017. Unsure about Cormac Quinn, he joined the Senior panel in 2022.
From 2017 in minors? Tyrone won minor All Ireland in 2010 and not again until last year I think. Open to correction
That was the first ever u17 as minors in 2017. U18 was the main minor competition that year so the one Tyrone won wasn't that illustrious. Darragh Canavan scored a clinker of a goal in that final.
The Tyrone team from the 2017 U17 All-Ireland final
Lorcan Quinn; Conor Ward, Cormac Monroe, Antoin Fox; Ruairi Slane, Matthew McCusker, Tarlach Quinn; Matthew Murnaghan, Joe Oguz; Cormac Donaghy, Darragh Canavan, Daniel Millar; Ethan Jordan, Cormac Donnelly, Tomas Hoy.
Subs: Mark Hayes for Hoy (40), Oisin McHugh for Slane (40), Michael Conroy for Donnelly (46), Ryan McCabe for Jordan (51), Liam Gray for Donaghy (58).
Darragh Canavan with 1-3 and Ethan Jordan with 0-5.
Quote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 08:27:10 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 08:12:53 PMQuote from: RoundBall on June 16, 2026, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 16, 2026, 07:06:31 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2026, 06:12:23 PMIs there anyone on the Tyrone panel who hasn't got at least 1 All Ireland medal from the 3 grades?
O'Kane maybe? Has Cormac Quinn, Teague, Oguz? Imagine there is a few others but not many
Teague has a Senior medal from 2021, he was a panellist. O'Kane (as one of the substitute goalies) and Oguz have All Ireland u17 medals from 2017. Unsure about Cormac Quinn, he joined the Senior panel in 2022.
From 2017 in minors? Tyrone won minor All Ireland in 2010 and not again until last year I think. Open to correction
That was the first ever u17 as minors in 2017. U18 was the main minor competition that year so the one Tyrone won wasn't that illustrious. Darragh Canavan scored a clinker of a goal in that final.
Yeah remember that now. Think we had a really good team that year didn't we? A right few would have made Tyrone panels
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2026, 08:49:24 PMI think Mayo will beat Meath. Those 2 corner forwards.
Could happen. But I'd take Conlon over either of them. Throw in Morris and Costello and I think we win
Tyrone get to quarters they start to smell blood in the water and go up a gear, wouldnt be a match, Meath should be looking for, out of the 4 options, if Meath come through.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Would be 50 50. Meath are an interesting one. They looked good against Derry but Derry have been very poor this year so Meath still a lot to prove. They could beat mayo out the gate or get beat. Hard to know how good they are.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:21:20 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on June 16, 2026, 06:02:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF.
Any of those teams can reach the All-Ireland semi-final.
The team I'd give the least chance is the former stand out team Dublin and mainly because of how far they have fallen back.
Westmeath v Louth,Cork could go either way.
Monaghan reached the semi-finals a few years ago with about 12 of those players that featured then still around and Tyrone reached the last 4 last year.
Should Mayo overcome Meath and I believe haven't lost to them in MacHale Park since the 60s are then more than capable of beating Louth,Cork and even Galway.
Don't think we played mayo in mchale park that much since 60s and don't think we played championship against them ever in it. Sure same was said of brefni v Cavan. Went and won there. Meath while not been over confident are very very happy with the draw. Thats all I'll say
Having rechecked the stat it's no win for Meath on Mayo soil since 1962 instead of just McHale Park.
Six matches, two in Castlebar,2 in Ballina and 1 played in Crossmolina and 1 in Charlestown
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Tyrone are a different team from early league. Sitting lovely at the minute and you wouldn't be surprised if they won the All Ireland if someone else takes out Kerry.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Wouldn't judge any team on what happened in the league when it's now June and knock out championship football
True mucker. Derry always liked the league but never had the stones for SAM! Who is next up to manage them - Eugene McKenna?
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 16, 2026, 05:11:16 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 02:21:30 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 16, 2026, 12:49:48 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on June 16, 2026, 11:45:31 AMQuote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2026, 10:32:19 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 14, 2026, 05:26:55 PMDazzler is who Shane Walsh thinks he is. Two ridiculous scores with his weaker right
When he's pointing 55 yard frees from the ground with his bad foot come back to us!
Superb display by McCurry though. Saw him earlier in the year and thought he was on the wane big time. Good to see the class is still there
Walsh is having a great campaign, casual viewers might not be appreciating it given who Galway have played so far
The point is the big day. McCurry essentially dragged Tyrone over the line and has done it on the crucial big days many times reliably.
I would like Galway to win Sam if we dont btw, they will need Walsh to deliver what hes capable of.
What about the big day? Did Shane Walsh not kick 9 points in the All Ireland final with the old rules?
McCurry has done it plenty of times for Tyrone but he never got a kick v Kerry last year - that's complete cherry picking. Walsh is a class act don't want to hear about big days
Then the next year he kicked 2, 1 of which was a free.
Right, so he has one All Ireland final performance thats widely regarded as one of the best we've seen in a final, albeit in defeat, and another poor one (also injury related)
The idea that he doesn't do it on big days is laughable at this point. Galways biggest win in years was dethroning Dublin in 24, he was sensational that day. He has man of the match awards falling off his mantlepiece and came second in player of the year voting to an imperious Clifford in 2022
Walsh is a fantastic player. Not sure why this conversation... I still think that he could be better as harsh as that may sound. Two footed, speed , balance, ability to change direction and lose defenders. He has it all.
Galway are in a good place. The majority of their key players are fit, for once. They're relatively fresh having had less matches and the Westmeath match will help to bring them on. The victory was more comfortable than the final score suggested but Joyce can use the last five minutes as a stick to keep them focused.
They are a physically mature team with a lot of big game players. They won the majority of the collisions with our lads and this was critical. Westmeath hadn't encountered anything like that level of intensity this season. I was impressed by their patience in possession and the manner in which the forwards probed and sought openings. A favourable quarter final could open the road for them.
There were learnings for a lot of Westmeath players in that game. It's important to experience that level of competition while ensuring that some of the mistakes are not repeated in future games. I was pleased with the manner in which we stayed in the fight. Galway were stronger around the middle and took over completely when both our starting midfielders were gone at the start of the second half. It looked ominous towards the end but it was obvious we still believed. Galway were hot favourites with the bookies, pulling away in their home stadium with time ebbing away. The lads somehow found a way to get back into it it. The final surge yielded a goal and a pair of two point scores to sow doubt among the Galway fans. Comer stepped up to halt the mayhem but the Westmeath reaction to the situation they faced with five minutes remaining speaks volumes for McHugh's impact.
The miles on the clock were evident. We've now racked up eight hours of championship football to get to this point. A number of players were digging very deep to keep going. Whittaker is working on one leg. Ray Connellan is facing a spell on the treatment table. Tadhg Baker is indefatigable, but seems to be carrying a knock. Heslin shows the absence of overall conditioning. There is only a week before Monaghan, it will be interesting to see the lineup next week.
Monaghan have had a varied journey to this point. They now sense an opportunity to turn the previous narrative for 2026 on its head. They are a superb team when they get to a state of flow. Home advantage could be important. This will be our sixth match outside Mullingar so the fans will be asked to mobilise for another road trip. A big support will be required.
We need to tidy up our kick outs and crank up the intensity once again. If we can pull out another big performance we will hopefully contend. I'm really looking forward to seeing how we respond to the challenge. A quarter final would be an incredible achievement to crown our best ever campaign. Hopefully the adventure will continue after this weekend.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Yeah really. If you're still using league form as a barometer 3 months later then I am not sure what to say to that and you must be new to this sport. We also couldn't have been that 'woeful' in the league game as Meath were hanging on in the end.
I thought you might have learned a lesson from last season when you were constantly bigging Meath up when in reality they only won one big game last year and got pumped by 20 points in an All Ireland Semi Final.
Quote from: square_ball on June 17, 2026, 08:14:07 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Yeah really. If you're still using league form as a barometer 3 months later then I am not sure what to say to that and you must be new to this sport. We also couldn't have been that 'woeful' in the league game as Meath were hanging on in the end.
I thought you might have learned a lesson from last season when you were constantly bigging Meath up when in reality they only won one big game last year and got pumped by 20 points in an All Ireland Semi Final.
Dublin and Galway were both big wins for Meath, getting the Dublin monkey off their back and Galway winning a knock put game in Croke Park would have been big moments for this young team.
If Meath played Tyrone I would have it very much as a 50/50 game. Tyrone are a hard team to stop when tails up, however, Meath have a better two point threat across the board, but would need to improve defensively.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 16, 2026, 09:53:50 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Wouldn't judge any team on what happened in the league when it's now June and knock out championship football
Have they improved that much ? I mean they were awful in croke park. Meath hardly broke a sweat beating them. I'll admit I haven't seen much of them at all since. Only that they were worried they might not make the top 16 with down etc. so what has been their improvement?
Quote from: square_ball on June 17, 2026, 08:14:07 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Yeah really. If you're still using league form as a barometer 3 months later then I am not sure what to say to that and you must be new to this sport. We also couldn't have been that 'woeful' in the league game as Meath were hanging on in the end.
I thought you might have learned a lesson from last season when you were constantly bigging Meath up when in reality they only won one big game last year and got pumped by 20 points in an All Ireland Semi Final.
Hanging on ? We emptied the bench as game was well and truly over. Not just using league. I'd rate Tyrone as the worst team currently in quarters. And I feel everyone who wins this weekend would want to draw them
Have a feeling Dunne Royal will end up with serious egg on his face if Tyrone meet Meath.
No matter how shite Tyrone seem you can never ever write them off. Came within a kick of a ball of beating us at home and have beaten good Roscommon and Mayo teams since.
Quote from: statto on June 17, 2026, 08:37:37 AMQuote from: square_ball on June 17, 2026, 08:14:07 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Yeah really. If you're still using league form as a barometer 3 months later then I am not sure what to say to that and you must be new to this sport. We also couldn't have been that 'woeful' in the league game as Meath were hanging on in the end.
I thought you might have learned a lesson from last season when you were constantly bigging Meath up when in reality they only won one big game last year and got pumped by 20 points in an All Ireland Semi Final.
Dublin and Galway were both big wins for Meath, getting the Dublin monkey off their back and Galway winning a knock put game in Croke Park would have been big moments for this young team.
If Meath played Tyrone I would have it very much as a 50/50 game. Tyrone are a hard team to stop when tails up, however, Meath have a better two point threat across the board, but would need to improve defensively.
I think the old tails up thing doesn't work anymore. They almost got relegated to div 3 with drawing Kildare game.
That been said we have had our own problems. Kinsella is a huge loss. Meaths best player of the year by some distance and two point magnet he's gone our other potential match winners in kinlough also out for year and duke still carrying an injury. So need others to step up Flynn looked like been back to his best on Saturday was hugely important O'Connor also needs to get his 2 point grove going. Morris needs to build up his confidence again which is very low but he showed glimpses of it on sat. Conlon is unmarkable and no matter who marks him they in for a torrid time. 7 from play all 1 pointers in two games running , on the defensive side we have covered some of it with Menton returning to his old role at 6. Keoghan also turning the clock back. But 2 guys pushing 40 is not a long term solution to defensive worries but they will do for this year . The one thing that fills every Meath player with hope from Saturday was the introduction of smith and his coolness in scoring the insurance point. Why ? This guy is been talked about as the best player Meath have produced ina long time. He probably will get more time v mayo. And may start next game should we win.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2026, 08:51:52 AMHave a feeling Dunne Royal will end up with serious egg on his face if Tyrone meet Meath.
No matter how shite Tyrone seem you can never ever write them off. Came within a kick of a ball of beating us at home and have beaten good Roscommon and Mayo teams since.
Maybe but they've done nothing this year to prove me wrong YET. if we play them (hopefully win on Saturday) then we will see. Should we beat mayo then that would be both of us beating good mayo team as you call it. So wouldn't that leave it 50/50 at worse ?
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 17, 2026, 09:10:45 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2026, 08:51:52 AMHave a feeling Dunne Royal will end up with serious egg on his face if Tyrone meet Meath.
No matter how shite Tyrone seem you can never ever write them off. Came within a kick of a ball of beating us at home and have beaten good Roscommon and Mayo teams since.
Maybe but they've done nothing this year to prove me wrong YET. if we play them (hopefully win on Saturday) then we will see. Should we beat mayo then that would be both of us beating good mayo team as you call it. So wouldn't that leave it 50/50 at worse ?
Obviously talking hypotheticals as you's could lose this weekend or even if you win mightn't even draw them but yeah it'd be 50/50, your sharpshooters wouldn't get as much space against Tyrone and they have a couple of horses of men round the middle as well as forwards to do harm. Never ever write them off
Let's get it started predictions for the weekend.
Kerry v Armagh- Kerry by 4
Meath v Mayo- Meath by 2 after extra time
Donegal v Dublin- Donegal by 5
Monaghan v Westmeath- Monaghan by 3 after extra time
Kerry v Armagh. Kerry by 6
Meath v mayo Meath by 2
Dublin v Donegal Dublin by 3
Monaghan v Westmeath. Westmeath by 1.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2026, 09:21:11 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 17, 2026, 09:10:45 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2026, 08:51:52 AMHave a feeling Dunne Royal will end up with serious egg on his face if Tyrone meet Meath.
No matter how shite Tyrone seem you can never ever write them off. Came within a kick of a ball of beating us at home and have beaten good Roscommon and Mayo teams since.
Maybe but they've done nothing this year to prove me wrong YET. if we play them (hopefully win on Saturday) then we will see. Should we beat mayo then that would be both of us beating good mayo team as you call it. So wouldn't that leave it 50/50 at worse ?
Obviously talking hypotheticals as you's could lose this weekend or even if you win mightn't even draw them but yeah it'd be 50/50, your sharpshooters wouldn't get as much space against Tyrone and they have a couple of horses of men round the middle as well as forwards to do harm. Never ever write them off
Exactly it's all hypothetical at this stage. Meath could get hammered by mayo in their backyard and none of this means anything. It's just my opinion but I don't see Tyrone going any further.
Armagh by 2 (going with heart over head there but anyway)
Meath by 3
Donegal by 7
Monaghan by 2
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 17, 2026, 09:40:07 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2026, 09:21:11 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 17, 2026, 09:10:45 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 17, 2026, 08:51:52 AMHave a feeling Dunne Royal will end up with serious egg on his face if Tyrone meet Meath.
No matter how shite Tyrone seem you can never ever write them off. Came within a kick of a ball of beating us at home and have beaten good Roscommon and Mayo teams since.
Maybe but they've done nothing this year to prove me wrong YET. if we play them (hopefully win on Saturday) then we will see. Should we beat mayo then that would be both of us beating good mayo team as you call it. So wouldn't that leave it 50/50 at worse ?
Obviously talking hypotheticals as you's could lose this weekend or even if you win mightn't even draw them but yeah it'd be 50/50, your sharpshooters wouldn't get as much space against Tyrone and they have a couple of horses of men round the middle as well as forwards to do harm. Never ever write them off
Exactly it's all hypothetical at this stage. Meath could get hammered by mayo in their backyard and none of this means anything. It's just my opinion but I don't see Tyrone going any further.
depends who they get. If they drew the winners of monaghan v west meath Id fancy the, Theyd give Donegal a good rattle and would prob beat Dublin. Dont think theyd beat Kerry and theyve taken us to extra time already this year. Havent seen any of meath so far so couldnt say one way or the other
Kerry v Armagh. Kerry by 7
Meath v Mayo. Meath by 3
Dublin v Donegal. Donegal by 2 AET.
Monaghan v Westmeath. Lucky Monaghan bollixes by 3.
Do I sense some Armagh lads are struggling with fate and possibly a sense of injustice? Would it have something to do with a recent cruel loss, a cnt of a draw and their homely neighbors?
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 12:43:08 PMDo I sense some Armagh lads are struggling with fate and possibly a sense of injustice? Would it have something to do with a recent cruel loss, a cnt of a draw and their homely neighbors?
Don't think there's any sense of injustice, Louth deservedly beat them and they have got a tough draw in the next round. By not doing their job they ran the risk of Kerry in Killarney and being out 3 weeks in a row.
I expected to beat Louth but felt that the Kerry game would come sooner rather than later and expected it to be in Croker at quarter final stage.
Louth didn't deservedly beat Armagh, Armagh definitely got what they deserved tho.
Can't see anything other than a 4/5 point Kerry win, hope to be wrong. I just hope there' are no kneejerk reactions and we make loads of changes. Some of the Pods seem pretty sure Blaine is out, huge loss if so. We need Murnin playing 🤞
On a side note Meath have played mayo twice this year in challenge matches. One in mayo (venue unknown) and after the Westmeath game in Ashbourne about 5/6 weeks ago won both. But the one in Ashbourne was pretty much first team players including Kobe etc. some local media lads watched it (unofficially) and the tak from them , one in particular , was if we repeat what we did there we will win. Now personally wouldn't read to much into a challenge game, and Kinsella obviously played and was outstanding so that's another negative. But both teams will know what the other team brings.
Quote from: statto on June 17, 2026, 01:27:01 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 12:43:08 PMDo I sense some Armagh lads are struggling with fate and possibly a sense of injustice? Would it have something to do with a recent cruel loss, a cnt of a draw and their homely neighbors?
Don't think there's any sense of injustice, Louth deservedly beat them and they have got a tough draw in the next round. By not doing their job they ran the risk of Kerry in Killarney and being out 3 weeks in a row.
I expected to beat Louth but felt that the Kerry game would come sooner rather than later and expected it to be in Croker at quarter final stage.
I was more referring to the old horse Orior,
"Monaghan v Westmeath. Lucky Monaghan bollixes by 3".
Quote from: bennydorano on June 17, 2026, 01:36:49 PMLouth didn't deservedly beat Armagh, Armagh definitely got what they deserved tho.
Can't see anything other than a 4/5 point Kerry win, hope to be wrong. I just hope there' are no kneejerk reactions and we make loads of changes. Some of the Pods seem pretty sure Blaine is out, huge loss if so. We need Murnin playing 🤞
Any good armagh pods youd recommend?
I dont really bother with Armagh specific ones. (Sideline eye probably the Armagh go to, could be some I'm not aware of). My favs - OTB with Tommy, Indo with Pat & Dick, RTE Pod - especially when Fenton is on, Gaa Social too. Beyond the 45 is okish.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 17, 2026, 03:17:17 PMI dont really bother with Armagh specific ones. (Sideline eye probably the Armagh go to, could be sone I'm not aware of). My favs - OTB with Tommy, Indo with Pat & Dick, RTE Pod - especially when Fenton is on, Gaa Social too. Beyond the 45 is okish.
Inside game, although haven't listened to many episodes, lad Creaney from Lurgan does it I think, was good enough listen any time I had it on. Beyond the 45 is good I think, Mugsy is a laugh would be some value to go on the beer with. Pat and Dick are alright when they're not constantly yapping about something.
Dunno why I posted this on the Armagh Louth thread earlier .... ::)
Kerry by 10 - over as a contest early second half
Monaghan by 1 AET - Beggan with a late winning free
Meath by 1 AET - Mayo to find yet another way to lose a close battle
Dublin by 3 - Murphy to get sent off , and sail off into the sunset
Is this now full on knock out football?
no more backdoors etc
Quote from: johnnycool on June 17, 2026, 03:58:02 PMIs this now full on knock out football?
no more backdoors etc
Yep. Here we go!
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 02:56:31 PMQuote from: statto on June 17, 2026, 01:27:01 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 12:43:08 PMDo I sense some Armagh lads are struggling with fate and possibly a sense of injustice? Would it have something to do with a recent cruel loss, a cnt of a draw and their homely neighbors?
Don't think there's any sense of injustice, Louth deservedly beat them and they have got a tough draw in the next round. By not doing their job they ran the risk of Kerry in Killarney and being out 3 weeks in a row.
I expected to beat Louth but felt that the Kerry game would come sooner rather than later and expected it to be in Croker at quarter final stage.
I was more referring to the old horse Orior,
"Monaghan v Westmeath. Lucky Monaghan bollixes by 3"
.
Well yes, but to be fair, I'd rather win the Ulster Championship than leave the AI Championship with nothing.
That would be correct, only 1 team win a all-Ireland, there no build up to games, run off week by week, all-ireland championship games should be 2 weeks between each. When the earliest club championship? Derry league already at R11 out 15 for club footballers already. What the different extending fball another 2/3 weeks. Sure GAA scoring the biggest own goal with little on Rte while they show 3/4 games od soccer a day to all hours. Why cant full gaa games be run through the nite for coverage like the soccer.
Quote from: Orior on June 17, 2026, 04:45:04 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 02:56:31 PMQuote from: statto on June 17, 2026, 01:27:01 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 12:43:08 PMDo I sense some Armagh lads are struggling with fate and possibly a sense of injustice? Would it have something to do with a recent cruel loss, a cnt of a draw and their homely neighbors?
Don't think there's any sense of injustice, Louth deservedly beat them and they have got a tough draw in the next round. By not doing their job they ran the risk of Kerry in Killarney and being out 3 weeks in a row.
I expected to beat Louth but felt that the Kerry game would come sooner rather than later and expected it to be in Croker at quarter final stage.
I was more referring to the old horse Orior,
"Monaghan v Westmeath. Lucky Monaghan bollixes by 3"
.
Well yes, but to be fair, I'd rather win the Ulster Championship than leave the AI Championship with nothing.
I had forgotten about that one, the Ulster championship title :)
The Monaghan heads with short term memory loss another trait to add to their collection?
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 17, 2026, 08:43:24 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 16, 2026, 09:53:50 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Wouldn't judge any team on what happened in the league when it's now June and knock out championship football
Have they improved that much ? I mean they were awful in croke park. Meath hardly broke a sweat beating them. I'll admit I haven't seen much of them at all since. Only that they were worried they might not make the top 16 with down etc. so what has been their improvement?Quote from: square_ball on June 17, 2026, 08:14:07 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
Yeah really. If you're still using league form as a barometer 3 months later then I am not sure what to say to that and you must be new to this sport. We also couldn't have been that 'woeful' in the league game as Meath were hanging on in the end.
I thought you might have learned a lesson from last season when you were constantly bigging Meath up when in reality they only won one big game last year and got pumped by 20 points in an All Ireland Semi Final.
Hanging on ? We emptied the bench as game was well and truly over. Not just using league. I'd rate Tyrone as the worst team currently in quarters. And I feel everyone who wins this weekend would want to draw them
Yes Tyrone are roughly back to the same level right now as last summer when they reached the last 4.
Tyrone could draw Westmeath, Monaghan or Meath in a quarter-final and I'd back Tyrone every single time. There's no reason to fear anyone with the inconsistency Armagh and Donegal have shown — if either of them are waiting in a semi-final, Tyrone will fancy their chances.
People seem to have very short memories. Not long ago, Tyrone went into Donegal's own backyard, were written off by plenty, and came away with the win. This so-called "worst team left" Tyrone also pushed Armagh all the way to extra time in the Athletic Grounds this year.
Count Tyrone out if you want — but history has a habit of proving the doubters wrong.
Kerry v Armagh - Kerry by 13
Dublin v Donegal - Donegal by 4
Mayo v Meath - Meath by 2
Monaghan v Westmeath - Monaghan by 4
Quote from: Canavanistheman03 on June 17, 2026, 11:10:27 PMTyrone could draw Westmeath, Monaghan or Meath in a quarter-final and I'd back Tyrone every single time. There's no reason to fear anyone with the inconsistency Armagh and Donegal have shown — if either of them are waiting in a semi-final, Tyrone will fancy their chances.
People seem to have very short memories. Not long ago, Tyrone went into Donegal's own backyard, were written off by plenty, and came away with the win. This so-called "worst team left" Tyrone also pushed Armagh all the way to extra time in the Athletic Grounds this year.
Count Tyrone out if you want — but history has a habit of proving the doubters wrong.
That's evidence of being afflicted (at birth?) with a serious dose of Tyrone cockiness extremus.
Quote from: Canavanistheman03 on June 17, 2026, 11:10:27 PMTyrone could draw Westmeath, Monaghan or Meath in a quarter-final and I'd back Tyrone every single time. There's no reason to fear anyone with the inconsistency Armagh and Donegal have shown — if either of them are waiting in a semi-final, Tyrone will fancy their chances.
People seem to have very short memories. Not long ago, Tyrone went into Donegal's own backyard, were written off by plenty, and came away with the win. This so-called "worst team left" Tyrone also pushed Armagh all the way to extra time in the Athletic Grounds this year.
Count Tyrone out if you want — but history has a habit of proving the doubters wrong.
To be fair there was lots of Tyronies saying how bad the team was before Armagh game not just people from other counties. Alot of Armagh folk were scoffed at on here I recall when it was suggested that it would be a tight game between Armagh and Tyrone.
You seem to have discounted the AI favourites who you could possibly meet in quarter final.
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 11:28:08 PMQuote from: Canavanistheman03 on June 17, 2026, 11:10:27 PMTyrone could draw Westmeath, Monaghan or Meath in a quarter-final and I'd back Tyrone every single time. There's no reason to fear anyone with the inconsistency Armagh and Donegal have shown — if either of them are waiting in a semi-final, Tyrone will fancy their chances.
People seem to have very short memories. Not long ago, Tyrone went into Donegal's own backyard, were written off by plenty, and came away with the win. This so-called "worst team left" Tyrone also pushed Armagh all the way to extra time in the Athletic Grounds this year.
Count Tyrone out if you want — but history has a habit of proving the doubters wrong.
That's evidence of being afflicted (at birth?) with a serious dose of Tyrone cockiness extremus.
Wasn't that long ago they were lining up replacements for MOR.
There's no denying some Tyrone supporters were frustrated — every county has that when things aren't clicking. But that actually proves the point: people were too quick to write them off, including plenty who are now acting like the Armagh game was obvious.
As for the AI favourites, they're called favourites for a reason — it's a prediction, not a result. Football isn't played by rankings or opinions online. Tyrone have already shown they can go into difficult places and beat highly-rated teams, so pretending they have no chance is just poor analysis.
And the Malachy O'Rourke point? That happens in every county. A few bad performances and suddenly everyone wants a new manager; a few big results and the same people change their tune.
The reality is Tyrone are still standing when plenty of other teams aren't. If people want to keep underestimating them, that's fine — they've been doing it for years and Tyrone have a habit of making them look foolish.
Quote from: Canavanistheman03 on June 18, 2026, 07:12:27 AMThere's no denying some Tyrone supporters were frustrated — every county has that when things aren't clicking. But that actually proves the point: people were too quick to write them off, including plenty who are now acting like the Armagh game was obvious.
As for the AI favourites, they're called favourites for a reason — it's a prediction, not a result. Football isn't played by rankings or opinions online. Tyrone have already shown they can go into difficult places and beat highly-rated teams, so pretending they have no chance is just poor analysis.
And the Malachy O'Rourke point? That happens in every county. A few bad performances and suddenly everyone wants a new manager; a few big results and the same people change their tune.
The reality is Tyrone are still standing when plenty of other teams aren't. If people want to keep underestimating them, that's fine — they've been doing it for years and Tyrone have a habit of making them look foolish.
You do realise 75% of the teams that started in the competition are still alive?
Quote from: Orior on June 17, 2026, 04:45:04 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 02:56:31 PMQuote from: statto on June 17, 2026, 01:27:01 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 17, 2026, 12:43:08 PMDo I sense some Armagh lads are struggling with fate and possibly a sense of injustice? Would it have something to do with a recent cruel loss, a cnt of a draw and their homely neighbors?
Don't think there's any sense of injustice, Louth deservedly beat them and they have got a tough draw in the next round. By not doing their job they ran the risk of Kerry in Killarney and being out 3 weeks in a row.
I expected to beat Louth but felt that the Kerry game would come sooner rather than later and expected it to be in Croker at quarter final stage.
I was more referring to the old horse Orior,
"Monaghan v Westmeath. Lucky Monaghan bollixes by 3"
.
Well yes, but to be fair, I'd rather win the Ulster Championship than leave the AI Championship with nothing.
Why ?
Sure the provincial is irrelevant now
Armagh need Nugent back in the team
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 18, 2026, 07:33:19 AMArmagh need Nugent back in the team
No one's biting chief
Back to Saturday , murnin hopefully fit and Blaine is essential for kick outs .
For me if murnin fit I would bench turbitt.
Looking forward to it now , if o shea and Ryan not playing then we can beat them .
Quote from: naka on June 18, 2026, 08:59:54 AMQuote from: ElJeffe on June 18, 2026, 07:33:19 AMArmagh need Nugent back in the team
No one's biting chief
Back to Saturday , murnin hopefully fit and Blaine is essential for kick outs .
For me if murnin fit I would bench turbitt.
Looking forward to it now , if o shea and Ryan not playing then we can beat them .
Yeah Turbo and Oisin off the bench could be key and the kick up the hole Turbo needs, Murnin if fit has to start obviously. O'Sullivan is a huge loss as well as those two. O'Shea near beat us on his own last year with the space we allowed him, criminal. If Ryan is out we can really get after their kickouts. Break ball as usual will be massive, will need Ross/McCabe/McCormack to have huge games in that department. Conaty is due a big game.
Quote from: naka on June 18, 2026, 08:59:54 AMQuote from: ElJeffe on June 18, 2026, 07:33:19 AMArmagh need Nugent back in the team
No one's biting chief
Back to Saturday , murnin hopefully fit and Blaine is essential for kick outs .
For me if murnin fit I would bench turbitt.
Looking forward to it now , if o shea and Ryan not playing then we can beat them .
El Gobshite^
Really looking forward to Saturday.
A big pitch is what this meath team need and thankfully that's what we will get . It's not croke park because t it's not that far off
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:15:03 AMQuote from: naka on June 18, 2026, 08:59:54 AMQuote from: ElJeffe on June 18, 2026, 07:33:19 AMArmagh need Nugent back in the team
No one's biting chief
Back to Saturday , murnin hopefully fit and Blaine is essential for kick outs .
For me if murnin fit I would bench turbitt.
Looking forward to it now , if o shea and Ryan not playing then we can beat them .
El Gobshite^
Robbie Tasker maybe too
Seanie O Shea and Shane Ryan back on the bench
Quote from: jb77 on June 18, 2026, 08:47:50 PMSeanie O Shea and Shane Ryan back on the bench
Just Tom O'Sullivan out from what would be considered 1st choice.
(https://i.ibb.co/W4qzqRgh/HLHi-F-RWk-AARTcg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C3N9NShc)
And the Armagh team
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Cute Kerry hoors are full out. Massive teat ahead.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:30:13 PMCute Kerry hoors are full out. Massive teat ahead.
Ryan and o Shea can't be fit
Quote from: naka on June 18, 2026, 09:32:25 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:30:13 PMCute Kerry hoors are full out. Massive teat ahead.
Ryan and o Shea can't be fit
How fit does a goalkeeper need to be lol. O'Shea if half right could come on and stroke a couple of 2 pointers. Massive task ahead but full faith.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:51:50 PMQuote from: naka on June 18, 2026, 09:32:25 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:30:13 PMCute Kerry hoors are full out. Massive teat ahead.
Ryan and o Shea can't be fit
How fit does a goalkeeper need to be lol. O'Shea if half right could come on and stroke a couple of 2 pointers. Massive task ahead but full faith.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:51:50 PMQuote from: naka on June 18, 2026, 09:32:25 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2026, 09:30:13 PMCute Kerry hoors are full out. Massive teat ahead.
Ryan and o Shea can't be fit
How fit does a goalkeeper need to be lol. O'Shea if half right could come on and stroke a couple of 2 pointers. Massive task ahead but full faith.
He had a quad injury
So say 30 kick outs might be an issue
Hopefully o Shea isn't near fit
Oisin ONeill should be starting that Armagh team surely? Grugan wasnt put in til 67th min last day either.
Theres a sliver of hope that rests on fact Jacko has not done back to back and the true state of Kerrys fitness.
Armagh are creating lots of goal chances so maybe they hit form on that front.
Gonna go with
Kerry, Mayo, Donegal, Monaghan
You wonder can Joe O'Connor hit the heights of last year. If they can curb him be a big positive.
That team looks a bit too strong for Armagh unfortunately :o
Armagh really haven't a hope in this game doesn't they?... no matter how much we try to convince ourselves.
They might have had a chance in the Atlethic grounds with their first choice midfield and Blaine's Hughes fit.
Kerry could win this with a bit to spare.
Very tough to see Armagh coping with the loss of Hughes even if Murnin is fit. A bridge too far I fear but damage done last week. Might be the end for three or four more of the 24 team but with the modern rules who knows whats going to happen
Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2026, 11:34:47 PMVery tough to see Armagh coping with the loss of Hughes even if Murnin is fit. A bridge too far I fear but damage done last week. Might be the end for three or four more of the 24 team but with the modern rules who knows whats going to happen
What I unfortunately envisage happening is a Kerry stranglehold on the Armagh kickout. It has the potential to be a very uncomfortable evening for us. No Blaine, no midfield, it ain't going to be pretty. Unless something untoward happens and a player such as Ethan has the game of his life and nails every kickout (as he has done before). I travel in hope more than expectation. I hope Armagh at least leave Killarney with Kerry knowing they were in a game.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2026, 10:31:15 PMYou wonder can Joe O'Connor hit the heights of last year. If they can curb him be a big positive.
That team looks a bit too strong for Armagh unfortunately :o
Kelly really got to grips with him in league game so would expect that to be the matchup.
It was a major morale boost to see Sean O'Shea and Shane Ryan named on the bench last night down here.
I travelled with the old man to Croke Park for the QF because we genuinely thought it was the only day out we would get. How could we get enough ball to trouble Armagh with a midfield of Mark O'Shea and Sean O'Brien? Of course the rest is history, but maybe something for the Armagh folks to ponder heading down the road expecting to be wiped out at midfield.
It's a very exciting tie, I'm confident of a Kerry win but it wouldn't take much untoward happening to go the other way. Safe travels to ye all and I hope ye enjoy everything but the game.
Could see one or two changes to that Armagh team
Travelling down and have that feeling that this isn't a done deal .
Everyone ( apart from Lee Keegan) writing is off.
Yeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
I'd love Armagh to be acting the maggot naming Rafferty in nets and letting Kerry do their prep on him only for Hughes to be parachuted in 🤞 Really hard not to see Ross McQuillan starting, unless he's injured.
I guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 18, 2026, 10:49:12 PMArmagh really haven't a hope in this game doesn't they?... no matter how much we try to convince ourselves.
They might have had a chance in the Atlethic grounds with their first choice midfield and Blaine's Hughes fit.
Kerry could win this with a bit to spare.
I was starting to have a good feeling then I seen the teams. NO harm to Ethan but Blaine is the btter keeper and is needed if we to have a chance of winning
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).
Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
The first I heard when Rian was playing that day was sitting in my seat in the Athletic Grounds, so if it happens it'll be late. Odds are against it.
Quote from: illdecide on June 19, 2026, 09:12:01 AMYeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
Yes. For all the hype around the Kerry injuries they are getting their big players back as we are losing ours. We said it at the time but Crealey leaves a massive gap in our team when we're going up against the big guns. Kerry will be very aggressive on our kickouts, if we can retain 35/40% of them then we have a great chance but I think every Armagh fan is really worried about this. Rafferty has to have a Tyrone 24 Ulster semifinal match and JOB and Murnin have to deliver big time.
For first time since the draw. I'm worried. Both flynn and O'Connor not starting. No harm to either Charlie or Adam but these two are two point getters and with the absence of Kinsella this could be a long drive home. Both must be carrying knocks otherwise they'd be certain starters. Suddenly our middle part doesn't look as daunting to mayo
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 18, 2026, 09:25:11 AMReally looking forward to Saturday.
A big pitch is what this meath team need and thankfully that's what we will get . It's not croke park because t it's not that far off
Unfortunately Castlebar's one of the smaller county pitches dimension wise in the country
I'd have thought a smaller pitch would suit the team with more size around the middle (Meath) but who knows. Changes don't help in that regard
Quote from: mackers on June 19, 2026, 09:53:51 AMQuote from: illdecide on June 19, 2026, 09:12:01 AMYeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
Yes. For all the hype around the Kerry injuries they are getting their big players back as we are losing ours. We said it at the time but Crealey leaves a massive gap in our team when we're going up against the big guns. Kerry will be very aggressive on our kickouts, if we can retain 35/40% of them then we have a great chance but I think every Armagh fan is really worried about this. Rafferty has to have a Tyrone 24 Ulster semifinal match and JOB and Murnin have to deliver big time.
One thing I noticed in the reports about the Kerry Kildare game was that they got 4 two pointers with 4 different scorers - O'Beaglaoich, Joe O'Connor, Dylan Geaney and Paudie Clifford.
A lot of teams seem very reliant on a couple of lads for their 2 point shooting threat but if a team is having to worry about a whole chunk of the other team being 2 pointer scoring threats it makes defending against them so much harder.
Beforehand that game if you'd told Kildare that none of David Clifford, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane or Tony Brosnan would score a 2 pointer against them (with Seanie O'Shea and Tom O'Sullivan not in the match-day panel) they'd probably have been delighted.
I'd love to see a detailed breakdown on the stats in terms of who in teams are taking on 2 pointer shots and who is scoring them. Longer-term I think county teams are going to put more value on players who can score 2 pointers.
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).
Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
McGill wasn't named in 30 last weekend
Quote from: Manning18 on June 19, 2026, 10:44:36 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 18, 2026, 09:25:11 AMReally looking forward to Saturday.
A big pitch is what this meath team need and thankfully that's what we will get . It's not croke park because t it's not that far off
Unfortunately Castlebar's one of the smaller county pitches dimension wise in the country
I'd have thought a smaller pitch would suit the team with more size around the middle (Meath) but who knows. Changes don't help in that regard
Those changes don't help at all. Actually they terrify me.
If Kerry win tomorrow and get decent minutes into Sean O'Shea they'll go the whole way I fear. Especially if Shane Ryan is not far away. A championship which seems wide open has ended with Kerry up the steps plenty of times, could be the same story again.
I would give Armagh a good chance though, definitely not going down to make up the numbers. McQuillan should start and I would really think long and hard about starting Oisin O'Neill as well
If Kerry get a run I imagine they'll be hard stopped. They need beat now.
Last year I felt a big reason was Joe O'Connor lording midfield so maybe teams will be wiser to that unless they have more surprises up their sleeve.
Im gonna stick the neck out on this one.
Armagh will win this game.
This is shit or bust for them and with the backs to the wall they will react well and get the result.
Theyve been crying out to get a game with a top 4 team and this is the chance to prove last weekend was a blip.
Most games theyve been the favourites and it doesnt do them any good. Now theyll relish being the underdogs again and having the 'world is against us' mentality drilled into them for the last 6 days.
Kerry 1-18 Armagh 2-17
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 19, 2026, 11:10:37 AMQuote from: mackers on June 19, 2026, 09:53:51 AMQuote from: illdecide on June 19, 2026, 09:12:01 AMYeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
Yes. For all the hype around the Kerry injuries they are getting their big players back as we are losing ours. We said it at the time but Crealey leaves a massive gap in our team when we're going up against the big guns. Kerry will be very aggressive on our kickouts, if we can retain 35/40% of them then we have a great chance but I think every Armagh fan is really worried about this. Rafferty has to have a Tyrone 24 Ulster semifinal match and JOB and Murnin have to deliver big time.
One thing I noticed in the reports about the Kerry Kildare game was that they got 4 two pointers with 4 different scorers - O'Beaglaoich, Joe O'Connor, Dylan Geaney and Paudie Clifford.
A lot of teams seem very reliant on a couple of lads for their 2 point shooting threat but if a team is having to worry about a whole chunk of the other team being 2 pointer scoring threats it makes defending against them so much harder.
Beforehand that game if you'd told Kildare that none of David Clifford, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane or Tony Brosnan would score a 2 pointer against them (with Seanie O'Shea and Tom O'Sullivan not in the match-day panel) they'd probably have been delighted.
I'd love to see a detailed breakdown on the stats in terms of who in teams are taking on 2 pointer shots and who is scoring them. Longer-term I think county teams are going to put more value on players who can score 2 pointers.
Kerry was reliant on two players last year for two pointers, a case they have worked on that now or it said more about Kildare?
Kerry in the championship last year
scored 29 two pointers
David Clifford 14 (12tp, 2tpf)
Sean O'Shea 12 (7tpf, 5tp)
3 from other players
Tony Brosnan (1tp)
Shane Ryan (1tpf)
Tom O'Sullivan (1tp)
Will Matthew Thompson be back for Galway this year? Remember when he went away he was expected back for the Connacht final. If they add him to a fit Walsh and Comer and Finnerty who's playing out of his skin they'll be hard to stop
Jesus Tomas O'Se is uncharacteristically bullish about Kerry on the Indo Sport pod, he's normally a soft soaper yerra man.
I can understand the appetite for Kerry folk to lay down a marker. They could end up walloping Armagh down the straight.
Another 8.30am Monday draw. Why not have it directly have it after the last round 3 game or on the Sunday game that evening?
Louth,Tyrone,Galway will be keeping their fingers and toes crossed to avoid Kerry. And lucky for Cork they can only be paired with Meath/Mayo or Westmeath/Monaghan should Donegal beat Dublin as expected.
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).
Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
Magill wasn't named at all for the Louth game and wore number 1, so it must be allowed. Could see Blaine with 16 but unlikely.
Rian that time may have been on the 30 which wasn't released back then just 26
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 19, 2026, 01:52:55 PMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).
Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
Magill wasn't named at all for the Louth game and wore number 1, so it must be allowed. Could see Blaine with 16 but unlikely.
Rian that time may have been on the 30 which wasn't released back then just 26
No, he wore N6, replacing someone.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 01:59:12 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 19, 2026, 01:52:55 PMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AMQuote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).
Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
Magill wasn't named at all for the Louth game and wore number 1, so it must be allowed. Could see Blaine with 16 but unlikely.
Rian that time may have been on the 30 which wasn't released back then just 26
No, he wore N6, replacing someone.
Ah you're right, Forker I think it was. So not impossible that we see Blaine.
As much as we'd love Rian Soupy and Grimley to bounce back in I can't see it lol
Anyone upload the Kildare Kerry game or where it can be seen in full?
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on June 19, 2026, 12:37:13 PMIm gonna stick the neck out on this one.
Armagh will win this game.
This is shit or bust for them and with the backs to the wall they will react well and get the result.
Theyve been crying out to get a game with a top 4 team and this is the chance to prove last weekend was a blip.
Most games theyve been the favourites and it doesnt do them any good. Now theyll relish being the underdogs again and having the 'world is against us' mentality drilled into them for the last 6 days.
Kerry 1-18 Armagh 2-17
That might work if somehow we convince Kerry that they're going to get a second chance. Yes.... now... how do we do that?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2026, 01:46:04 PMAnother 8.30am Monday draw. Why not have it directly have it after the last round 3 game or on the Sunday game that evening?
Louth,Tyrone,Galway will be keeping their fingers and toes crossed to avoid Kerry. And lucky for Cork they can only be paired with Meath/Mayo or Westmeath/Monaghan should Donegal beat Dublin as expected.
Cork game might be confirmed by Sunday night if the right results happen.
Already played Kerry in Munster final
Played Meath in All Ireland Round 1
Played Donegal in All Ireland Round 2
If Kerry, Meath & Donegal win then Cork v Westmeath / Monaghan is confirmed.
They'll take that, and Tyrone will take the winners of that tie after disposing of Meath. A nightmare scenario for the country
By the sounds of it, many of the Westmeath team will be traveling to Clones in ambulances, on day release from the intensive ward, others will be swinging in the gates on crutches, removing their casts in the dressing room. It's now up to 1,200 minutes of championship football having been played, not sure if that includes the 5 or 6 extra time periods or not.
Any advice for Sunday for my first trip to Clones for parking. Driving up from Dublin. Don't mind walking a good few kms.
Quote from: gerrykeegan on June 19, 2026, 03:02:17 PMAny advice for Sunday for my first trip to Clones for parking. Driving up from Dublin. Don't mind walking a good few kms.
I think this game qualifies for being labelled a 'Big Match Day' in Clones, mainly due to the predicted arrival of the Westmeath supporter horde. Here is the link to the official info (https://clones.gaa.ie/2026/05/01/match-day-parking/#) about big match day parking.
Quote from: gerrykeegan on June 19, 2026, 03:02:17 PMAny advice for Sunday for my first trip to Clones for parking. Driving up from Dublin. Don't mind walking a good few kms.
From Westmeath, consider travelling from Cavan via Ballyhaise, which brings you into Clones on the R212. The ABP factory often have parking run by some charity or other and this is useful, if you are not in an absolute hurry away at the end.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2026, 12:38:49 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 19, 2026, 11:10:37 AMQuote from: mackers on June 19, 2026, 09:53:51 AMQuote from: illdecide on June 19, 2026, 09:12:01 AMYeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
Yes. For all the hype around the Kerry injuries they are getting their big players back as we are losing ours. We said it at the time but Crealey leaves a massive gap in our team when we're going up against the big guns. Kerry will be very aggressive on our kickouts, if we can retain 35/40% of them then we have a great chance but I think every Armagh fan is really worried about this. Rafferty has to have a Tyrone 24 Ulster semifinal match and JOB and Murnin have to deliver big time.
One thing I noticed in the reports about the Kerry Kildare game was that they got 4 two pointers with 4 different scorers - O'Beaglaoich, Joe O'Connor, Dylan Geaney and Paudie Clifford.
A lot of teams seem very reliant on a couple of lads for their 2 point shooting threat but if a team is having to worry about a whole chunk of the other team being 2 pointer scoring threats it makes defending against them so much harder.
Beforehand that game if you'd told Kildare that none of David Clifford, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane or Tony Brosnan would score a 2 pointer against them (with Seanie O'Shea and Tom O'Sullivan not in the match-day panel) they'd probably have been delighted.
I'd love to see a detailed breakdown on the stats in terms of who in teams are taking on 2 pointer shots and who is scoring them. Longer-term I think county teams are going to put more value on players who can score 2 pointers.
Kerry was reliant on two players last year for two pointers, a case they have worked on that now or it said more about Kildare?
Kerry in the championship last year
scored 29 two pointers
David Clifford 14 (12tp, 2tpf)
Sean O'Shea 12 (7tpf, 5tp)
3 from other players
Tony Brosnan (1tp)
Shane Ryan (1tpf)
Tom O'Sullivan (1tp)
While Kildare were fairly poor from everything I heard, the fact that 4 different Kerry players (none of whom scored a 2 pointer in last year's championship ) all scored, would have me thinking this was something that Kerry have worked on. Analysis teams probably looked at last year's championship stats during the winter and probably saw how the 2 lads got the overwhelming bulk of Kerry's 2 pointers and were probably looking at how to focus on stopping them (probably through increased cover on both of them when they are around the arc)
Kerry analysis team probably looked at the stats and figured that teams would be short odds to focus on stopping those two which would surely open up opportunities for other players to get better quality 2 point shooting opportunities.
Was there a wind in Newbridge? Even your average club player will stroke 2 pointers for fun with a bit of a wind behind him, especially if he's given time and space that you'd imagine Kerry got the last day.
Most of Kerry's players well capable of hitting them so vital we're not letting them get shots away under no pressure like O'Shea got last year, Clifford a different beast. Obviously the trick is balancing that with not giving them space for goals in behind.
Hard to believe Armagh could be out by Saturday teatime after two losses. Just the previous Saturday they were sitting so pretty. Incredible really.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 19, 2026, 04:35:22 PMHard to believe Armagh could be out by Saturday teatime after two losses. Just the previous Saturday they were sitting so pretty. Incredible really.
And to make it worse, we never even got to Jones's Road.
Ye of little faith.
Sean O Shea is a big leader on that Kerry team as is Gavin White. Neither may play much of a role.
Armagh to go goal crazy and scrape through by the minimum.
Ethan Rafferty to hit the winner, 2 ptr from play after emptying Joe O Connor.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2026, 01:46:04 PMAnother 8.30am Monday draw. Why not have it directly have it after the last round 3 game or on the Sunday game that evening?
Louth,Tyrone,Galway will be keeping their fingers and toes crossed to avoid Kerry. And lucky for Cork they can only be paired with Meath/Mayo or Westmeath/Monaghan should Donegal beat Dublin as expected.
Cork can't be paired with Meath
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 19, 2026, 05:08:15 PMYe of little faith.
Sean O Shea is a big leader on that Kerry team as is Gavin White. Neither may play much of a role.
Armagh to go goal crazy and scrape through by the minimum.
Ethan Rafferty to hit the winner, 2 ptr from play after emptying Joe O Connor.
And then you wake up with your face in your porridge
Kerry threw the game against Meath last year and done same against Donegal a few weeks ago. The A v B games would of been higher intensity than playing Cork and Kildare. The injured lads are back training weeks and rearing to go . Kerry by 7/8 points. Kerry won't be beat again this year. 40 AI title incoming.
Quote from: gerrykeegan on June 19, 2026, 03:02:17 PMAny advice for Sunday for my first trip to Clones for parking. Driving up from Dublin. Don't mind walking a good few kms.
Head up by N2 and cut across @ Castleblayney to Ballybay-Newbliss Clones. You will get parked at Largy college or keep on in turn right after the Garda station and there's a big yard for parking on your left. That'll leave you 7-10mins from the pitch. Have the tax-free €5 ready
Quote from: Main Street on June 19, 2026, 02:29:31 PMBy the sounds of it, many of the Westmeath team will be traveling to Clones in ambulances, on day release from the intensive ward, others will be swinging in the gates on crutches, removing their casts in the dressing room. It's now up to 1,200 minutes of championship football having been played, not sure if that includes the 5 or 6 extra time periods or not.
Rumour has it TR Dallas has been drafted in to the standby panel to cover corner back.... Westmeath have played the media perfectly. Monaghan's Achilles heel is complacency when favourites and McHugh has set the trap. Expect to see Ray Connellan togged out and Westmeath giving it one last, glorious pyrrhic push. Monaghan will be shell shocked by 6pm Sunday
Quote from: Angus MacGyver on June 19, 2026, 09:15:56 PMturn right after the Garda station and there's a big yard for parking on your left. That'll leave you 7-10mins from the pitch. Have the tax-free €5 ready
I think that's where I parked last Saturday.
Wasn't anyone looking for money though.
Ray Connellan injured his ankle on the 2nd half throw in last weekend and struggled to put weight on that ankle when he walked off the field a few minutes later. Putting him on the bench Sunday would be as silly as Roscommon did with a injured Enda Smith.
Quote from: Ribeiro on June 19, 2026, 09:05:13 PMKerry threw the game against Meath last year and done same against Donegal a few weeks ago. The A v B games would of been higher intensity than playing Cork and Kildare. The injured lads are back training weeks and rearing to go . Kerry by 7/8 points. Kerry won't be beat again this year. 40 AI title incoming.
I am of the same opinion
Kerry 1-28
Armagh 0-22
Quote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2026, 10:06:59 PMQuote from: Angus MacGyver on June 19, 2026, 09:15:56 PMturn right after the Garda station and there's a big yard for parking on your left. That'll leave you 7-10mins from the pitch. Have the tax-free €5 ready
I think that's where I parked last Saturday.
Wasn't anyone looking for money though.
Reminded me of similar experience when I used a well known spot outside croker in some dodgy estate [near a pentecostal hall] and the guys were looking money when cars were leaving.
But we had spent so much time in bar by time we came back the "stewards" had gone home.
Quote from: Ribeiro on June 19, 2026, 09:05:13 PMKerry threw the game against Meath last year and done same against Donegal a few weeks ago. The A v B games would of been higher intensity than playing Cork and Kildare. The injured lads are back training weeks and rearing to go . Kerry by 7/8 points. Kerry won't be beat again this year. 40 AI title incoming.
The home draw for Kerry was hugely significant and they will make reference to that in the 26th July speeches in the Burlo or Citywest.
It was a season-defining draw from the hat on a Monday morning in Tullamore Court Hotel.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 19, 2026, 10:29:02 PMRay Connellan injured his ankle on the 2nd half throw in last weekend and struggled to put weight on that ankle when he walked off the field a few minutes later. Putting him on the bench Sunday would be as silly as Roscommon did with a injured Enda Smith.
I concur.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 19, 2026, 11:42:11 PMQuote from: Ribeiro on June 19, 2026, 09:05:13 PMKerry threw the game against Meath last year and done same against Donegal a few weeks ago. The A v B games would of been higher intensity than playing Cork and Kildare. The injured lads are back training weeks and rearing to go . Kerry by 7/8 points. Kerry won't be beat again this year. 40 AI title incoming.
The home draw for Kerry was hugely significant and they will make reference to that in the 26th July speeches in the Burlo or Citywest.
It was a season-defining draw from the hat on a Monday morning in Tullamore Court Hotel.
One thing for certain is that they won't be in Citywest
Quote from: Tubberman on June 20, 2026, 07:20:49 AMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 19, 2026, 11:42:11 PMQuote from: Ribeiro on June 19, 2026, 09:05:13 PMKerry threw the game against Meath last year and done same against Donegal a few weeks ago. The A v B games would of been higher intensity than playing Cork and Kildare. The injured lads are back training weeks and rearing to go . Kerry by 7/8 points. Kerry won't be beat again this year. 40 AI title incoming.
The home draw for Kerry was hugely significant and they will make reference to that in the 26th July speeches in the Burlo or Citywest.
It was a season-defining draw from the hat on a Monday morning in Tullamore Court Hotel.
One thing for certain is that they won't be in Citywest
I'd say it has been a while that the city west has been used lol!
Is the golf course still in use?
Is this game only available on GAA go?
As we stand aside polishing the 5 Cups and saving €, best of luck to all the 8 teams playing over the weekend (incl the Rhubarbs😲).
Hopefully 4 good contests and large crowds and may the best teams win.
(I'm getting soft in my oul age!)
Donegal, Kerry, Monaghan to win while it will be level after extra time in Castlebar and decided on penalties.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2026, 12:18:38 PMQuote from: Tubberman on June 20, 2026, 07:20:49 AMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 19, 2026, 11:42:11 PMQuote from: Ribeiro on June 19, 2026, 09:05:13 PMKerry threw the game against Meath last year and done same against Donegal a few weeks ago. The A v B games would of been higher intensity than playing Cork and Kildare. The injured lads are back training weeks and rearing to go . Kerry by 7/8 points. Kerry won't be beat again this year. 40 AI title incoming.
The home draw for Kerry was hugely significant and they will make reference to that in the 26th July speeches in the Burlo or Citywest.
It was a season-defining draw from the hat on a Monday morning in Tullamore Court Hotel.
One thing for certain is that they won't be in Citywest
I'd say it has been a while that the city west has been used lol!
Is the golf course still in use?
No, that's long gone too.
Plans to develop on it, there was talk of housing but also a cemetery strangely enough...
Coldrick has Armagh Kerry
Faloon has Mayo Meath
Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2026, 12:32:38 PMAs we stand aside polishing the 5 Cups and saving €, best of luck to all the 8 teams playing over the weekend (incl the Rhubarbs😲).
Hopefully 4 good contests and large crowds and may the best teams win.
(I'm getting soft in my oul age!)
Donegal, Kerry, Monaghan to win while it will be level after extra time in Castlebar and decided on penalties.
Last year under the new rules most if not all of the good contests was in the provincial championships or group stage. The knock out All-Ireland series including the two semi-finals and final was fairly underwhelming contests.
Under another new format and the knock out games so far this year, the round 2B games last weekend none would be considered overly good. The non jeopardy safety net and provincial championships games have been better games.
Round 3 today and tomorrow has the potential to have good contests so we'll see how they play. Surely a more entertaining and memorable All-Ireland series than 2025, Its hyped up to be a wide open championship however as someone said such championships are normally won by Kerry.
Four home wins this weekend?
Quote from: mouview on June 20, 2026, 01:49:31 PMFour home wins this weekend?
What I'm expecting but has been plenty of upsets already this year. From next year probably neutral venues for the round 3 games?
RTE radio saying a crowd of 22k or 23k likely? Did I mishear or is it really only going to ve a little more than half full.
On another note, I really find it distasteful that they are paying multimillionaire IPAs landlord Banty to do co-commentator.
I presume his mate ConorMcManus was not available.
Quote from: pjm on June 20, 2026, 03:41:51 PMRTE radio saying a crowd of 22k or 23k likely? Did I mishear or is it really only going to ve a little more than half full.
On another note, I really find it distasteful that they are paying multimillionaire IPAs landlord Banty to do co-commentator.
I presume his mate ConorMcManus was not available.
Vincent McManus should be no where near the tv either
Kerry
Mayo
Donegal
Down
All fairly predictable wins
With Clifford both in form kerry game will get ugly for Arrmagh.
McGeeney last game as Armagh gaffer
This kerry team is a better footballing than Dublin 6 in row team.
Kerry team coming into form at right time. The Ulster shit nest at sign of kerry jersey. Like 70s/80s again
White shoes mandatory for the GAA+ pundits.
Quote from: Ribeiro on June 20, 2026, 03:49:55 PMKerry
Mayo
Donegal
Down
All fairly predictable wins
With Clifford both in form kerry game will get ugly for Arrmagh.
McGeeney last game as Armagh gaffer
This kerry team is a better footballing than Dublin 6 in row team.
moonster back with a new account you might have better luck with predictions this time?
Mics picking up a few boys badly out of time with the music there ;D
Great afternoon for football by the looks of things. Should be a cracker.
So many questions around both teams fitness. Good luck Ard macha
As expected. Mcgeeney instructing to lamp in the goals
Bright start by Armagh here
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 20, 2026, 04:08:42 PMBright start by Armagh here
And intense. Doing all the early hard work.
After 10 minutes Kerry 0-1 Armagh 0-4. But for some wasteful shooting Armagh would be further ahead.
Goal for Kerry, David Clifford talk about against the run of play.
Yup armagh wasted dominance, massive energy investment too.
Must be some breeze coming across from the far side. Everything drifting wide to the same side at each end.
McQuillan has to work the goal there.
Conaty could do with a handy score to settle himself down. Just tried to do too much there.
They're clinical but christ Armagh are sore on the eye
Hasn't turned into the game it threatened to be in the first ten mins.
Armagh working very hard and patiently for their scores. Can't afford to be giving away cheap frees like that one from McQuillan.
Shocking
Was about to come on and say Armagh will be happy enough
Armagh deserved that. Over complicating things. Laborious and now looking like they are afraid to shoot after the wides.
More suicide stuff from Armagh
Exactly what armagh deserves. Stupid time wasting and slowing down the game cost them.
Sweet christ that is unforgivable, Jarly Og fault for a terrible handpass into McElroy
Rafferty is too obsessed with coming out trying to be a hero.
f**k.me, self destruct mode activated early
Half-time Kerry 2-8 Armagh 0-8. Flattering lead for the home side a pure gift of a goal before the hooter
Armagh only themselves to blame... Playing better than I expected they would.
Could get very ugly second half if they drop their heads.
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 20, 2026, 04:40:11 PMSweet christ that is unforgivable, Jarly Og fault for a terrible handpass into McElroy
Ironically that all jarly does is handpass you think he would have it nailed down by now.
Flattering lead? Their positive approach going forward has been rewarded accordingly
3 points and we were well in it. 6 will be too many to come back from I fear
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 20, 2026, 04:40:11 PMExactly what armagh deserves. Stupid time wasting and slowing down the game cost them.
Exactly. And no need for a keeper joining that last attack. This Armagh team over complicate the game.
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2026, 04:40:21 PMRafferty is too obsessed with coming out trying to be a hero.
I'd be 99.9% certain is a management call that. Rafferty isn't just doing his own thing.
Did the ball go over the line before the hooter went?
Too early? ;D
Quote from: jb77 on June 20, 2026, 04:41:51 PMFlattering lead? Their positive approach going forward has been rewarded accordingly
Maybe but Armagh aren't exactly going out to win it here. Thought that was their problem a few years ago too and thought they changed that. They look like such a good team when they go out to play
Quote from: square_ball on June 20, 2026, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2026, 04:40:21 PMRafferty is too obsessed with coming out trying to be a hero.
I'd be 99.9% certain is a management call that. Rafferty isn't just doing his own thing.
Not in that situation though. They weren't in control of the ball
This is stunning stuff.
Depressing play. Makes you understand the calls for shot clock when you see that rubbish.
Will have serious regrets but if they die with boots on who knows. Will see how important the wind is in 2nd half.
5/6 point wind I'd say
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2026, 04:44:58 PMDid the ball go over the line before the hooter went?
Too early? ;D
I think it was 30 seconds left when Burns lackadaisically played a poor handpass to a man he should not be passing to
Very flattering scoreline for Kerry.
Armagh can't afford a slow third quarter. Need to pick away at the deficit.
Armagh from controlling the game to architects of own downfall once again. Club and college teams would mark David Clifford better and not concede such soft goals.
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2026, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 20, 2026, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2026, 04:40:21 PMRafferty is too obsessed with coming out trying to be a hero.
I'd be 99.9% certain is a management call that. Rafferty isn't just doing his own thing.
Not in that situation though. They weren't in control of the ball
It was off a turnover. They were in control of the ball until a terrible c**k-up.
It's a bit harsh because of the genius of the pass for the Clifford goal, but on the replay, McKay fell asleep. You cannot be marking David f**king Clifford and get caught looking at or thinking about anything else.
Armagh back to being over tactical and over coached instead of playing football.
Better team is losing
Very predictable from Armagh. They need to mix it up a bit. Maybe the wind is stronger in second half that it looks though
Armagh have always played that robotic, over thought football...they've enough talent to let the handbrake off and just go for it. They have no option now but go for it 100%, will be interesting to see if they have the bravery to do it
Poor Armagh. A pity for them as they aren't at the same level of year-after-year consistency at all, that their western O'Neill county neighbours are at. All noise and no core. A vacuous team.
Another handy win for kerry against Ulster opposition in knockout football.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 20, 2026, 03:55:01 PMQuote from: Ribeiro on June 20, 2026, 03:49:55 PMKerry
Mayo
Donegal
Down
All fairly predictable wins
With Clifford both in form kerry game will get ugly for Arrmagh.
McGeeney last game as Armagh gaffer
This kerry team is a better footballing than Dublin 6 in row team.
moonster back with a new account you might have better luck with predictions this time?
Was thinking that, myself
such a soft free to kerry.
McMullen and McQuillan can create goal opportunities via speed but neither have excellent feet.
8 points now. Game over youd imagine
All the talk half time was about the wind yet it's Kerry that get the 1st two scores of the 2nd half against the wind. They lead by 8.
Who's actually going to beat Kerry now? Today was the day for it to happen but Armagh not at the races.
And that's that.
Very disappointing week for Armagh.
Game over early second half, as I predicted
Great goal by O'Connor a mountain to climb for Armagh now. 3-11 to 0-9.
At least the Armagh fans can keep their jerseys for the 12th
Armagh don't deserve it based on the first half. Didn't want to win by the looks of it
Lack of leaders and of course quality where it counts
Armagh are made to look like a Junior b team in talent wise to Kerry today.
It is an absolute credit to McGeeney the success he has brought with this group of players.
Especially with their 1 x factor player in Rian O'Neill not committing this year.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 20, 2026, 05:05:08 PMWho's actually going to beat Kerry now? Today was the day for it to happen but Armagh not at the races.
Lol no it wasn't.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 05:12:30 PMArmagh are made to look like a Junior b team in talent wise to Kerry today.
It is an absolute credit to McGeeney the success he has brought with this group of players.
Especially with their 1 x factor player in Rian O'Neill not committing this year.
Sniff sniff
This is some statement by Kerry.
Galway the only team I can see giving them a game of it if they are fully clicking.
Who would have thought that kicking the thing in early into space would reap dividends? Crazy stuff
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 20, 2026, 05:14:55 PMThis is some statement by Kerry.
Galway the only team I can see giving them a game of it if they are fully clicking.
Galway the only team that could match them talent wise. But have they the coaching to do it. Keeper problems too.
Mayo ironically might have the fire power to take them if absolutely everything went right for them but unlikely.
Looking like another Kerry all ireland win.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 20, 2026, 05:14:55 PMThis is some statement by Kerry.
Galway the only team I can see giving them a game of it if they are fully clicking.
And still Seanie O'Shea, Gavin White, Shane Ryan and Tom Sullivan to come back into the team!
Said it years ago keep McGeeney as long as possible. Armagh playing like robots instead of the talented footballers that they can be.
Downside whoever gets kerry which is likely going to be tyrone are potentially in for a similar hiding.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 20, 2026, 05:15:28 PMWho would have thought that kicking the thing in early into space would reap dividends? Crazy stuff
No matter how many times it happens it gets ignored!
What a score by Rafferty
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 20, 2026, 05:17:18 PMSaid it years ago keep McGeeney as long as possible. Armagh playing like robots instead of the talented footballers that they can be.
Downside whoever gets kerry which is likely going to be tyrone are potentially in for a similar hiding.
Do you reckon anyone else would get more out of this team?
No underage or club success to work with.
Havent seen the game, where it all going wrong at? Thought midfield werent great, last few games i seen them in.
With new rules, if you don't kick the ball, and for Armagh that's nearly anywhere on the field, never mind into the forwards, you not winning an all Ireland.
Armagh fisting the ball over the bar reflects their game. Zero risk.
Would you say Kerry are even in 3rd gear now? Look to be cruising just
Armagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Kerry got away with 2 throwballs and a few other handy frees.
Would make zero difference
Quote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Armagh have been truly awful this half
Quote from: craicwas90 on June 20, 2026, 05:26:24 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Why would an objective comment about the ref upset you?
Quote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Ah f**k off. The free that O'Neill tapped over was for nothing. Think Tiernan Kelly gave a hospital pass to a man about to run into four defenders and Coldrick gave them the free out of pity.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:28:46 PMQuote from: craicwas90 on June 20, 2026, 05:26:24 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Why would an objective comment about the ref upset you?
Because it's not a greatpoint, not even a relevantpoint. In fact, it's a shitepoint.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:28:46 PMQuote from: craicwas90 on June 20, 2026, 05:26:24 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Why would an objective comment about the ref upset you?
I had to check who was reffing , zero, like zero influence / bearing on this game
This commentator hasn't a clue.
Quote from: gallsman on June 20, 2026, 05:30:16 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Ah f**k off. The free that O'Neill tapped over was for nothing. Think Tiernan Kelly gave a hospital pass to a man about to run into four defenders and Coldrick gave them the free out of pity.
Don't let it ruin your day pet
From a netrual point of view a very disappointing game.
Quote from: Louther on June 20, 2026, 05:30:25 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:28:46 PMQuote from: craicwas90 on June 20, 2026, 05:26:24 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Why would an objective comment about the ref upset you?
Because it's not a greatpoint, not even a relevantpoint. In fact, it's a shitepoint.
Big talk from an irrelevant county
No fight, no fisty cuffs, no hard tackles from Armagh
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 05:12:30 PMArmagh are made to look like a Junior b team in talent wise to Kerry today.
It is an absolute credit to McGeeney the success he has brought with this group of players.
Especially with their 1 x factor player in Rian O'Neill not committing this year.
Conaty is also x factor player.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:35:01 PMQuote from: Louther on June 20, 2026, 05:30:25 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:28:46 PMQuote from: craicwas90 on June 20, 2026, 05:26:24 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Why would an objective comment about the ref upset you?
Because it's not a greatpoint, not even a relevantpoint. In fact, it's a shitepoint.
Big talk from an irrelevant county
Supremist alert
Quote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:35:01 PMQuote from: Louther on June 20, 2026, 05:30:25 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:28:46 PMQuote from: craicwas90 on June 20, 2026, 05:26:24 PMQuote from: greatpoint on June 20, 2026, 05:24:17 PMArmagh have not been good but they've gotten pretty much nothing off the ref since half time
Just don't go there.
Armagh have been shite.
Why would an objective comment about the ref upset you?
Because it's not a greatpoint, not even a relevantpoint. In fact, it's a shitepoint.
Big talk from an irrelevant county
I'll keep that in mind at next weeks all Ireland quarter final.
What is McGeeneys obsession with Rafferty in goals? Obviously not the main issue but he isn't exactly a huge positive either
Result Kerry 4-18 Armagh 0-17.
The second goal killed the game. Armagh had done reasonably well on kickouts in first half. Would agree Armagh need to take more risks.
At least there'll be no yapping about the hooter.
Very poor. Armagh completely laid down in the second half.
But it was the refs fault! Feck me lol
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 17, 2026, 11:21:53 PMKerry v Armagh - Kerry by 13
Dublin v Donegal - Donegal by 4
Mayo v Meath - Meath by 2
Monaghan v Westmeath - Monaghan by 4
Put some respect on my name.
Got it bang on.
Quote from: gallsman on June 20, 2026, 05:41:50 PMAt least there'll be no yapping about the hooter.
Very poor. Armagh completely laid down in the second half.
Well the man on the radio just said it was a very long hooter tbh 😝😝
The guy on the hooter really give it a long blast there ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 20, 2026, 05:40:44 PMWhat is McGeeneys obsession with Rafferty in goals? Obviously not the main issue but he isn't exactly a huge positive either
He's average at the basics. Shot stopping, kickouts. A few wild runs out the field gave Armagh something before the rule changes.
Indeed Armagh couldnt even break a few legs to give the rest of us some hope...
Was always the issue with this team, lack of expression and safety first.
Hard to see where McGeeney goes from here with this team.
I knew the game was up when that goal b4 half time went in. Feels similar to the Down game, a really deflating aberration (well hopefully from an Armagh pov).
Congratulations to Kerry. I'd still take Galway for Sam. Let's hope Kerry get Tyrone in QF.
Quote from: gallsman on June 20, 2026, 05:47:52 PMHard to see where McGeeney goes from here with this team.
May be age, miles on legs or other commitments but often wondered why sevaral players have drifted away, like
grimley, Hall, Campbell, O'Hanlon, etc.
The players all speak very highly of McGeeney but thought it odd they missing so many of the 2024 panel. Even that year wasn't Jarly Og talked back into the panel?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 05:43:09 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 17, 2026, 11:21:53 PMKerry v Armagh - Kerry by 13
Dublin v Donegal - Donegal by 4
Mayo v Meath - Meath by 2
Monaghan v Westmeath - Monaghan by 4
Put some respect on my name.
Got it bang on.
I had it spot on until that late flukey goal
Out on a whimper. Louth defeat and manner of it proved very costly however winning that game Armagh was expected to win would only extend the season by another week or two was no All-Ireland or even All-Ireland final appearance in that Armagh Team, writing was on the wall even during the league and nothing was done to improve the team defensively.
Good luck to whoever draw Kerry next as they'll need it and a bit more.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 20, 2026, 05:56:57 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 05:43:09 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 17, 2026, 11:21:53 PMKerry v Armagh - Kerry by 13
Dublin v Donegal - Donegal by 4
Mayo v Meath - Meath by 2
Monaghan v Westmeath - Monaghan by 4
Put some respect on my name.
Got it bang on.
I had it spot on until that late flukey goal
Haha pure fluke but I'll take it.
Next 3 games mightn't be as accurate 😅
Quote from: bennydorano on June 20, 2026, 05:51:19 PMI knew the game was up when that goal b4 half time went in. Feels similar to the Down game, a really deflating aberration (well hopefully from an Armagh pov).
Congratulations to Kerry. I'd still take Galway for Sam. Let's hope Kerry get Tyrone in QF.
Galway during this championship have conceded 3-21 to Roscommon and 2-21 against Westmeath what will they likely concede against Kerry in Croke Park if they meet?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 20, 2026, 06:05:08 PMQuote from: bennydorano on June 20, 2026, 05:51:19 PMI knew the game was up when that goal b4 half time went in. Feels similar to the Down game, a really deflating aberration (well hopefully from an Armagh pov).
Congratulations to Kerry. I'd still take Galway for Sam. Let's hope Kerry get Tyrone in QF.
Galway during this championship have conceded 3-21 to Roscommon and 2-21 against Westmeath what will they likely concede against Kerry in Croke Park if they meet?
Enough to still win the game - IMO
Quote from: Louther on June 20, 2026, 05:54:02 PMQuote from: gallsman on June 20, 2026, 05:47:52 PMHard to see where McGeeney goes from here with this team.
May be age, miles on legs or other commitments but often wondered why sevaral players have drifted away, like
grimley, Hall, Campbell, O'Hanlon, etc.
The players all speak very highly of McGeeney but thought it odd they missing so many of the 2024 panel. Even that year wasn't Jarly Og talked back into the panel?
Many spent a long time with McGeeney getting absolutely nothing. Cant blame guys bowing out after winning Sam. Age and commitment required would be the thing, not KMCG
Three changes for Meath
Killian Smyth for Ronan Ryan
Jack Flynn for Adam O'Neill
Jack O'Connor for Charlie O'Connor.
Mayo one change
Bob Tuohy for Stephen Coen
Mayos kickout showing vs Tyrone would not inspire anyone but mayve they will put on a show at home.
Could be a very good game with lots of 2pt efforts
Fancy Mayo to let loose
Quote from: Louther on June 20, 2026, 05:54:02 PMQuote from: gallsman on June 20, 2026, 05:47:52 PMHard to see where McGeeney goes from here with this team.
May be age, miles on legs or other commitments but often wondered why sevaral players have drifted away, like
grimley, Hall, Campbell, O'Hanlon, etc.
The players all speak very highly of McGeeney but thought it odd they missing so many of the 2024 panel. Even that year wasn't Jarly Og talked back into the panel?
Them lads soldiered gamely for years for Armagh and owed the county nothing. It's not a new concept lads in thirties stepping away from inter county panels giving the sacrifices required.
The end of a good Armagh team. Too much to overcome. Hard to blame anyone who would walk away after that.
Game ended in the 90 seconds before half time.
Kerry were just ok first half but very good after the break. Armagh not at the level they needed to be.
After 12 minutes Mayo 0-1 Meath 0-5. Good save by the Mayo keeper to prevent a Meath goal a few minutes ago.
Agreeded the goal was a gut punch armagh never recovered from going into the second half.
Armagh lacked height around the middle and physicality on the breaking ball, was always going to be an ask against O'connor and Co.
Kerry going forward again a joy to watch, they make scoring look easier than it should be. With a full panel,they will be hard to stop. I don't think today's game will impact them going again next week either.
great goal
Goal for Meath. 1-5 to 0-2.
God I miss the seasoned professional commentator!
Good save by the Meath keeper to prevent a goal. 1-7 to 0-3 after 23 minutes.
2nd goal for Meath 2-7 to 0-3.
Mayo have been terrible. What has Andy Moran brought to the party since he took over. All talk.
Meath walking through Mayo defence.
Much more seasoned outfit now with some serious size and quality, cleaned them out on kickouts. Meath should look for another goal to put it beyond doubt before half time.
2-07 to 0-03
28mins gone
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 20, 2026, 06:36:55 PMGod I miss the seasoned professional commentator!
Donegal man Martin Carney is a special commentator.
Classy score by Kobe
Half-time Mayo 0-7 Meath 2-8. Mayo have the significant wind advantage 2nd half.
Dunno how strong that wind is? Mayo are a very ordinary team, green too.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 20, 2026, 06:48:33 PMLooks like a statement weekend by the major players for Sam.
Kerry and Meath totally in the zone in their matches.
7 point h/t lead playing with the wind (and new rules)...when Mayo put the ball in it worked, should be fit do that more this half, Mayo by 4 I reckon
Happy with that performance. Feels like we haven't used the wind. Need to stamp our authority on the second Half or it's going to be another Cork disaster
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2026, 06:46:22 PMMayo have been terrible. What has Andy Moran brought to the party since he took over. All talk.
I will never be able to comprehend why anyone should win the toss then play against the wind versus the biggest team in Ireland.
You can train 364 days a year and immediately every player on the field loses heart.
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Quote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 07:00:31 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2026, 06:46:22 PMMayo have been terrible. What has Andy Moran brought to the party since he took over. All talk.
I will never be able to comprehend why anyone should win the toss then play against the wind versus the biggest team in Ireland.
You can train 364 days a year and immediately every player on the field loses heart.
Agree 100%, play with the elements at all times. It's a fecking summer breeze as well (that drops as the evening progresses this time of year), its not a February howler.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 20, 2026, 06:57:26 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 20, 2026, 06:48:33 PMLooks like a statement weekend by the major players for Sam.
Kerry and Meath totally in the zone in their matches.
7 point h/t lead playing with the wind (and new rules)...when Mayo put the ball in it worked, should be fit do that more this half, Mayo by 4 I reckon
Wasn't Meath 8 points in front at half time recently v Cork and still lost?
Can O'Hora shut it for a minute
After 48 minutes Mayo 0-11 Meath 2-11
Quote from: jb77 on June 20, 2026, 07:19:04 PMCan O'Hora shut it for a minute
Someone should unplug his mic for
5 or 10 minutes.
Hession should have took his point. Wrong player to be taking on the goal there
Mayo 0-12 Meath 2-12. Another good save by the Meath keeper to prevent a goal a few minutes ago.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 20, 2026, 07:28:08 PMHession should have took his point. Wrong player to be taking on the goal there
He was one on one 10 yards out. Goal was on.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 20, 2026, 07:28:08 PMHession should have took his point. Wrong player to be taking on the goal there
he has played well
That's 100% a red!
Complete stupidity
Momentum with Mayo who have upped the pressure. As against Cork Meath loosing composure and showing their limitations.
Meath down to 14 men for the final 15 minutes leading by 2 points. Mayo: 0-16 Meath 2-12
Meath reacting to Mayo niggling
Red card
Big call! Looked like a shoulder?
Meath have been atrocious this half. Bit of pressure from Mayo and they've folded.
Wtf was that for? Typical ego ref...
Quote from: screenexile on June 20, 2026, 07:34:38 PMThat's 100% a red!
Complete stupidity
After coming on as a sub. Brain dead stuff
Meath getting flashbacks to the Cork game.
Level game the red card has swung things. 0-18 to 2-12.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 20, 2026, 07:36:31 PMWtf was that for? Typical ego ref...
Explain how that's on the ref?
That was a disappointing game; Armagh were well in it, but that gift just before half-time undermined their belief and they completely folded
Another top save by the Mayo keeper. Two pointer for Mayo they lead 0-20 to 2-13.
62 minutes played Mayo 0-21 Meath 2-13.
Red card was a joke. It was a shoulder after he got floored by a mayo player
Big test for this Meath side. Can they handle the Cauldron of Chaos? Lol
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 20, 2026, 07:37:55 PMLevel game the red card has swung things. 0-18 to 2-12.
The game had swung Mayo's way long before the red card.
Quote from: straightred on June 20, 2026, 07:30:25 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 20, 2026, 07:28:08 PMHession should have took his point. Wrong player to be taking on the goal there
he has played well
Yep best game I've seen him play for Mayo
Quote from: square_ball on June 20, 2026, 07:29:46 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 20, 2026, 07:28:08 PMHession should have took his point. Wrong player to be taking on the goal there
He was one on one 10 yards out. Goal was on.
For someone that doesn't get goals? Not the best option. Has played really well today. Him or Flynn my MOTM I think
Quote from: Main Street on June 20, 2026, 07:49:19 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 20, 2026, 07:37:55 PMLevel game the red card has swung things. 0-18 to 2-12.
The game had swung Mayo's way long before the red card.
ref missed an obvious tap over free for meath just before the ref card. Mayo havent looked back since
Quote from: Main Street on June 20, 2026, 07:49:19 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 20, 2026, 07:37:55 PMLevel game the red card has swung things. 0-18 to 2-12.
The game had swung Mayo's way long before the red card.
Had swung with the wind advantage but not convinced it would have swung in this manner with 15 v 15.
Mayo three ahead with a minute left.
Good win for Mayo
Meath play exceptional football at times but they are very watery.
Playing the most watery team in the country too.
Mayo will probably make an all ireland semi now.
Result Mayo 0-22 Meath 2-13
Well done Mayo. It didn't look good in first half but wind a factor.
Hession MOTM. Tommy Conroy surely should he starter at this stage as well.
Two of my picks have won. Expect Donegal and Monaghan to follow through.
Red card cost Meath massively
Quote from: seafoid on June 20, 2026, 07:52:44 PMGood win for Mayo
And at the same time horrendous loss for Meath, especially after the Cork game.
Meath teams are never beaten!
That was sweet!
Quote from: befair on June 20, 2026, 07:39:22 PMThat was a disappointing game; Armagh were well in it, but that gift just before half-time undermined their belief and they completely folded
I don't know was it just the 2nd goal right before half time - Armagh started well and were 0-4 to 0-1 up after 10 minutes but I thought the Kerry defence seemed to get themselves sorted out after that keeping Armagh to 4 points in the remaining 25 minutes of the half. Kerry's shooting was poor early on - I'm nearly sure they had 6 wides to Armagh's 5 at one stage of the first half. I felt the first Kerry goal was key to getting them going. Ridiculous pass in from Dylan Geaney to Clifford. 2nd half Armagh never looked like they believed they had a chance and Kerry getting the first 2 scores was just the start they needed to take over the 2nd half. I think Armagh only scoring 1 point in the 10 minutes before Kerry got the 3rd goal was when the match ended as a contest. Once that went in it was just shadowboxing.
That was more of a case of Meath throwing it away than Mayo beating them.
Galway v Mayo quarter-final could be spicy though!
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 20, 2026, 07:36:31 PMWtf was that for? Typical ego ref...
How dare he give someone a red card for a red card offence.
I'm ringing HQ.
Another cracking game, this championship is really good so far. Meath just folded in the second half. Cork game all over, didn't really learn much.
Quote from: Killala on June 20, 2026, 07:58:30 PMAnother cracking game, this championship is really good so far. Meath just folded in the second half. Cork game all over, didn't really learn much.
It's one thing to make a mistake. It's a whole different kettle of fish to make the same mistake repeatedly.
Could Cork play Mayo in a "teams that beat Meath after Meath had a dire 2nd half" derby?
Meath's run of never winning on Mayo soil continues and had a ten point head start to change that record.
Two challenge game wins for Meath over Mayo in December and May in the end meant diddly squat when it came to knock out championship football.
Meath championship very disappointing. Beat a poor Derry team and that was it.
Meath red card looked a very dubious decision. More or less settled the game as well. Was 8 points to 1 after that.
Meath do what Meath teams have done since 2001.
25 years of a soft under-belly.
Is Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 20, 2026, 08:14:06 PMMeath red card looked a very dubious decision. More or less settled the game as well. Was 8 points to 1 after that.
I believe that might be karma for 100 odd years of getting away with off the ball antics! ;D
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 08:31:47 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
That's harsh 2016/2017 we bet a lot of good teams but just didn't have the mental toughness to grab the slight chances the Dubs gave us in those finals!!
Mayo beat an average Meath team reduced to 10 men and suddenly Andy is the best since sliced bread and Mayo have the best forwards in the country.
The fickleness of GAA is insane.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 20, 2026, 08:40:19 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 08:31:47 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
That's harsh 2016/2017 we bet a lot of good teams but just didn't have the mental toughness to grab the slight chances the Dubs gave us in those finals!!
* throughout this decade *
(The last decade's team ran into a force of nature and could justifiably claim to be among the best 4-5 teams of all time even if they didn't win Sam)
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2026, 08:41:14 PMMayo beat an average Meath team reduced to 10 men and suddenly Andy is the best since sliced bread and Mayo have the best forwards in the country.
The fickleness of GAA is insane.
Not the best forwards in the country. Who is saying that?
It is though the best Mayo full forward line in memory.
Which isn't actually that high a bar. It's barely a bar at all.
COC and Andy had some time together when they were excellent. But they never had a third.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
I'm just heartbroken broken that DunneRoyal will not get the chance to watch his mighty Meath men put manners on ourselves to stroll into an AI semi final. Suppose beating Mayo isn't for everyone, even with a ten point lead in a second half.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 20, 2026, 08:40:19 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 08:31:47 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
That's harsh 2016/2017 we bet a lot of good teams but just didn't have the mental toughness to grab the slight chances the Dubs gave us in those finals!!
You're dead right.
Theres a valid argument to be made that that Mayo team of that era was the 2nd best team of all time.
No one came close to that Dublin side but them, which was to Mayos credit.
Opportunity wasted by Meath to prove last year's semi-final appearances wasn't a one off for that group of players.
Can look towards a debatable red card when they were four points in front. Conor Lane made the call for the red it seems than Faloon. Same Conor Lane that didn't think what Michael Murphy did in the league final was a red card offence.
It was average quality game Mayo are nothing special however could beat Cork,Louth and even Galway next who I don't rate as highly as others and then find themselves like Meath last year into the last four.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2026, 08:41:14 PMMayo beat an average Meath team reduced to 10 men and suddenly Andy is the best since sliced bread and Mayo have the best forwards in the country.
The fickleness of GAA is insane.
I think if Meath had 5 boys standing along the line and Mayo just got over them, no one would be praising any aspect of it!
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 20, 2026, 08:47:00 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 16, 2026, 09:25:30 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 16, 2026, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 16, 2026, 03:48:03 PMI can't see Westmeath/Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Monaghan getting further than a QF. Certainly not AI contenders anyway in my view.
If Tyrone drew Monaghan/Westmeath/Dublin/ Meath I'd be very disappointed if we didn't get through to the semi final and it wouldn't be a massive surprise either to see them beat Donegal or Armagh given we'll have the weeks rest. I don't think we have a chance v Kerry at any stage we may play them.
Really?
Actually of all the quarter final possibilities from a Meath point of view I'd take Tyrone above all the other possibilities. Apart from Kildare worst team we played in league. I mean woeful. And at one stage during early rounds was looking like ye were heading to TC . So on that basis I can't see how you could be happy to meet Meath should we get over mayo. Now on other hand Meath would be very happy to play Tyrone. As I think it would be a guaranteed semi final spot
I'm just heartbroken broken that DunneRoyal will not get the chance to watch his mighty Meath men put manners on ourselves to stroll into an AI semi final. Suppose beating Mayo isn't for everyone, even with a ten point lead in a second half.
Leagues are for playing in and all that. Meath were shocking in that 2nd half. Maybe they emptied the bench as they were that far ahead.
Meath Just collapsed in the 2nd half. I thought taking flynn off was a mistake. And the red didn't look like a red to me, maybe theres a view I haven't seen but looked like nothing, with a linesman telling the ref it was a strike there wasnt much a the ref could do but show a red. it finished the game.
Mayo will take confidence from that game, but I dont think theres enough about them to really challenge.
As for Armagh and Kerry, outside of the first 10 minutes, armagh never looked like they were going to win.
They were made look ordinary and the goal into an empty net would have felt embarrassing on the stroke of half time. They never really recovered from that.
Kerry are building nicely, getting big stars back. They'll be the team everyone wants to avoid.
A few more older armagh lads could walk now, the likes of murnin and grugan you'd think will likely retire. Id say armagh reasonably happy with the season though, won ulster at long last.
I'll stick my nexk out now and say mayo wont win sam
Thoughts on armagh v kerry.
1. Killarney a class spot for a game. Backdrop of mountains from terrace side and walk up from town something all gaa fans should experience once in their lives. Down with my daughter for match, unreal day.
2. Armagh in it until 2nd kerry goal went in. Chasing a 6 point defecit in 2nd half was too much an ask.
3. David clifford is some footballer.
4. Ethan Rafferty is not a goalkeeper.
5. Fear this is the end of an era for this armagh team. Since 2019 they have give us some great days, will take the memories to the grave. Fear a lot of retirements now.
Armagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
The post above yours is a lot classier than this drivel.
Quote from: seanaglis on June 20, 2026, 10:02:03 PMThoughts on armagh v kerry.
1. Killarney a class spot for a game. Backdrop of mountains from terrace side and walk up from town something all gaa fans should experience once in their lives. Down with my daughter for match, unreal day.
2. Armagh in it until 2nd kerry goal went in. Chasing a 6 point defecit in 2nd half was too much an ask.
3. David clifford is some footballer.
4. Ethan Rafferty is not a goalkeeper.
5. Fear this is the end of an era for this armagh team. Since 2019 they have give us some great days, will take the memories to the grave. Fear a lot of retirements now.
Well worth going and fair play for doing so. Even "bad" memories are often looked back on fondly.
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Be careful what you wish for my prediction is if McGeeney leaves Armagh they will be borderline Tailteann cup within 3-5 years and might even win one.
On what metric should McGeeney be doing better than what he is?... it definitely isn't underage success like Tyrone or Derry and it most definitely isn't club football standards.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 10:10:55 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Be careful what you wish for my prediction is if McGeeney leaves Armagh they will be borderline Tailteann cup within 3-5 years and might even win one.
On what metric should McGeeney be doing better than what he is?... it definitely isn't underage success like Tyrone or Derry and it most definitely isn't club football standards.
On what metric?? 12 years of putrid football ffs! Armagh had 70% possession in 1st half but were yet the worst team!
It was a very soft red especially considering what Faloon let go in general play and how hard it was to win a free kick.
Some good saves at both ends. Meath play great football at times but were too open at the back.
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:31:56 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 10:10:55 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Be careful what you wish for my prediction is if McGeeney leaves Armagh they will be borderline Tailteann cup within 3-5 years and might even win one.
On what metric should McGeeney be doing better than what he is?... it definitely isn't underage success like Tyrone or Derry and it most definitely isn't club football standards.
On what metric?? 12 years of putrid football ffs! Armagh had 70% possession in 1st half but were yet the worst team!
Would you stop. 12 years of putrid football that yielded an All Ireland and an Ulster Title. Nearly every county would bite your hand off for that.
And let's rewind back to the earlier years of the McGeeney reign it was anything but putrid football. Was in fact the exact opposite and how far did that get Armagh? 2021 game v Monaghan springs to mind.
Quote from: maldini on June 20, 2026, 10:43:12 PMIt was a very soft red especially considering what Faloon let go in general play and how hard it was to win a free kick.
Some good saves at both ends. Meath play great football at times but were too open at the back.
I agree. I don't think he got this one right.
At the same time though. Paul is perhaps the most logical and consistent referee I've ever seen in differentiating between handbags, histrionics and striking.
That he lets things go shouldn't really come into it.
I'm not even surprised or annoyed. I could see that coming even towards the end of the first half you could see our legs starting to tire.
When teams let us play we're the Harlem Globetrotters but as soon as they start pressing on us like Westmeath, Cork second half and today second half again we gradually fall apart. We held on for slightly longer than the Cork game and managed a couple of score and created a few chances that gave me some hope but we just started making poor decisions in possession that gave Mayo too many chances to counter attack.
Don't know if it's fitness or what is lacking. Subbing McBride and Flynn at the same time for Jones who is only back from a long term injury and O'Connor who is only a few appearances under his belt, was a bizarre decision. Surely stagger those changes and see how it goes with one.
Sean Brennan needs to work on his composure for pressure kicks. He's rushed a few when games have in the balance and did it again today.
We actually looked alright in defence today for the most part. Midfield more at fault and our forwards lacking composure when the pressure was on.
Ciaran Caulfield worked hard as ever but really needs to work on taking scores and goals. He's in good positions so often but either looks to hand it off or spurns goal chances.
Ultimately when Mayo put the pressure on Costello, Morris, Conlon, Frayne, O'Connor and Coffey were all found wanting in the physical stakes and composure.
As for the red card, I'd have to see it again but it looked completely innocuous if you ask me. But you just have to deal with these things and we still had enough chances to reel it back in and we failed to do that.
Not sure how you remedy these deficiencies in the team for next year but we need a bit more steel and physical strength at the core of the team.
Said Meath should have had game out of sight in first half, one of the palmed points should have been caught and buried. Shame we wont see them til next year
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2026, 08:41:14 PMMayo beat an average Meath team reduced to 10 men and suddenly Andy is the best since sliced bread and Mayo have the best forwards in the country.
The fickleness of GAA is insane.
10 men - i must have missed 4 red cards!
Quote from: thejuice on June 20, 2026, 11:32:03 PMI'm not even surprised or annoyed. I could see that coming even towards the end of the first half you could see our legs starting to tire.
When teams let us play we're the Harlem Globetrotters but as soon as they start pressing on us like Westmeath, Cork second half and today second half again we gradually fall apart. We held on for slightly longer than the Cork game and managed a couple of score and created a few chances that gave me some hope but we just started making poor decisions in possession that gave Mayo too many chances to counter attack.
Don't know if it's fitness or what is lacking. Subbing McBride and Flynn at the same time for Jones who is only back from a long term injury and O'Connor who is only a few appearances under his belt, was a bizarre decision. Surely stagger those changes and see how it goes with one.
Sean Brennan needs to work on his composure for pressure kicks. He's rushed a few when games have in the balance and did it again today.
We actually looked alright in defence today for the most part. Midfield more at fault and our forwards lacking composure when the pressure was on.
Ciaran Caulfield worked hard as ever but really needs to work on taking scores and goals. He's in good positions so often but either looks to hand it off or spurns goal chances.
Ultimately when Mayo put the pressure on Costello, Morris, Conlon, Frayne, O'Connor and Coffey were all found wanting in the physical stakes and composure.
As for the red card, I'd have to see it again but it looked completely innocuous if you ask me. But you just have to deal with these things and we still had enough chances to reel it back in and we failed to do that.
Not sure how you remedy these deficiencies in the team for next year but we need a bit more steel and physical strength at the core of the team.
candid remarks from a meathman.
Kudos for that.
Meath could have had it wrapped up at HT.
We were lucky to still be in it, tbh, as you could have drove an 18 wheeler trough our midfield and half back line.
Meath's backs played very well in the first half, constantly turning the mayo attackers around making them retreat backwards.
Although, Mayo had momentum, sending off was the game changer, as a minute before you took off both midfielders.
It was just stupid, not malacious, looked like Meath player (sub)was trying to make a statement, not the smartest, especially in an away game with a partisan crowd putting pressure on officials.
Mayo goalkeeper kept us in it.
A win is a win, thats about it.
Delighted for Kobe McDonald to get to play in Croke Park.
Mayo are miles away from winning an all ireland but a QF will(sorry hopefully) be a stepping stone for next year and beyond.
Personally delighted as I had booked months ago to back for next weekend.
After the Roscommon debacle, I like a lot of others had given up on the year.
Good luck next year Juice, it is good to see Meath competitive again. Too big of a county not to be.
you have been a long time contributor on here, you are a genuine supporter, unlike a lot of the recent WUM.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 10:55:59 PMQuote from: maldini on June 20, 2026, 10:43:12 PMIt was a very soft red especially considering what Faloon let go in general play and how hard it was to win a free kick.
Some good saves at both ends. Meath play great football at times but were too open at the back.
I agree. I don't think he got this one right.
At the same time though. Paul is perhaps the most logical and consistent referee I've ever seen in differentiating between handbags, histrionics and striking.
That he lets things go shouldn't really come into it.
It was Conor Lane's call.
McGeeney-managed teams are always a curious conundrum to me. I find him a very compelling individual, right back to his playing days. First of all, he enjoys longevity in jobs that's not commensurate with trophies won, nor compatible with the trend of more impatient county boards who operate on 2/3 year cycles now. At or beyond the point where you think he should move or be moved on, he remains, and suddenly moves the needle forward for a season or two. It's possibly a mark of the esteem he's held in by the players under his charge, and the incremental, gradual, slow-building nature of his projects, that means, although trophies might not be flowing, there's generally enough of an upward curve over time to encourage perseverance. Armagh were in a very dark place when he took over, if memory serves.
Another thing I feel hallmarks his sides is an ability to turn games against any shade of opposition into mini epics. Not today, obviously, but there are plentiful examples of close, tense battles against teams deemed both better and worse than his at various stages in their respective cycles - the former which garnish his reputation as a manager, and the latter to make you wonder if there isn't a degree of overthinking or over forensic strategising going on, when perhaps letting talented players play a bit more off the cuff would be better advised. It leaves me, anyway, with this weird sense that McGeeney manages to simultaneously over and under achieve in some ways.
Penny has not dropped with some the new rules mean you have to play football. That Kerry team is one of their great teams no doubt about it.
Dylan Geaney finally delivering on his promise, a thoroughbred. The goal he created for big Joe was outstanding stuff.
Classic Kerry keeping the powder dry, they have turned it into an art at this stage and its giving them huge confidence.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 20, 2026, 08:06:50 PMMeath's run of never winning on Mayo soil continues and had a ten point head start to change that record.
Two challenge game wins for Meath over Mayo in December and May in the end meant diddly squat when it came to knock out championship football.
And a record on mayo soil, and also random knockout championship matches mean diddly squat when compared to All Ireland totals. Of which Meath have over twice as many as Mayo
Plenty of gloating going on here and on social media. Didn't realize the blood was still bad between these counties 30 years on? They've barely met since
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:48:38 PMQuote from: Crete Boom on June 20, 2026, 08:40:19 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 08:31:47 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
That's harsh 2016/2017 we bet a lot of good teams but just didn't have the mental toughness to grab the slight chances the Dubs gave us in those finals!!
You're dead right.
Theres a valid argument to be made that that Mayo team of that era was the 2nd best team of all time.
No one came close to that Dublin side but them, which was to Mayos credit.
The team that came closest to beating Dublin in that period was Kerry in 2019. They were ahead in injury time, a place Mayo never were. They were also level in injury time with them in 2016. They also won an all Ireland in that period
That Mayo team was a fine team obviously but saying they were the second best team of all time is absolutely insane stuff. They got beaten 3 times in a row in Connacht in those years. Fell over the line in qualifiers against D4 teams. Dublin and to an extent Kerry were beating teams by 25 points repeatedly in their province and all Ireland series games
Quote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 08:31:47 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
That's a bit unfair on Carlow
Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2026, 01:19:36 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:48:38 PMQuote from: Crete Boom on June 20, 2026, 08:40:19 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 20, 2026, 08:31:47 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 08:25:35 PMIs Andy Moran the best coach in the country that was some turnaround?
Mental. I presume a wind up, but I'll bite anyhow.
Mayo have been at the exact same level throughout this decade. A good team that will beat any team that's not good, but will never beat a team that's great.
The black mark against Andy being that the last two management teams have undertaken the rebuild job of moving out a team of ageing warriors, and replacing them with new blood.
Which they did, and handed over the reins.
Mayo's age and experience profile is perfect for winning an AI.
In my lifetime they've never had a full forward line as dangerous, not even remotely close. Not even a third cousin remotely as close.
Yet you still couldn't trust them to win a game against Carlow.
That's harsh 2016/2017 we bet a lot of good teams but just didn't have the mental toughness to grab the slight chances the Dubs gave us in those finals!!
You're dead right.
Theres a valid argument to be made that that Mayo team of that era was the 2nd best team of all time.
No one came close to that Dublin side but them, which was to Mayos credit.
The team that came closest to beating Dublin in that period was Kerry in 2019. They were ahead in injury time, a place Mayo never were. They were also level in injury time with them in 2016. They also won an all Ireland in that period
That Mayo team was a fine team obviously but saying they were the second best team of all time is absolutely insane stuff. They got beaten 3 times in a row in Connacht in those years. Fell over the line in qualifiers against D4 teams. Dublin and to an extent Kerry were beating teams by 25 points repeatedly in their province and all Ireland series games
You still sucking on lemons I see lol
Up Mayo!
xx
Disappointed to say the least. Not a rec and looked like ball over line in first half. We play probably the best brand of football at the moment. Full on. But defensively we not where we need to be.
That all been said congratulations to mayo and best wishes for remainder of the year.
We dust ourselves down and look forward to the league.
Hon the royal
Quote from: Tubberman on June 21, 2026, 06:58:06 AMYou still sucking on lemons I see lol
Up Mayo!
xx
I've exceptionally little to be bitter about babes :)
Enjoy the weekend
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 21, 2026, 12:32:57 AMMcGeeney-managed teams are always a curious conundrum to me. I find him a very compelling individual, right back to his playing days. First of all, he enjoys longevity in jobs that's not commensurate with trophies won, nor compatible with the trend of more impatient county boards who operate on 2/3 year cycles now. At or beyond the point where you think he should move or be moved on, he remains, and suddenly moves the needle forward for a season or two. It's possibly a mark of the esteem he's held in by the players under his charge, and the incremental, gradual, slow-building nature of his projects, that means, although trophies might not be flowing, there's generally enough of an upward curve over time to encourage perseverance. Armagh were in a very dark place when he took over, if memory serves.
Another thing I feel hallmarks his sides is an ability to turn games against any shade of opposition into mini epics. Not today, obviously, but there are plentiful examples of close, tense battles against teams deemed both better and worse than his at various stages in their respective cycles - the former which garnish his reputation as a manager, and the latter to make you wonder if there isn't a degree of overthinking or over forensic strategising going on, when perhaps letting talented players play a bit more off the cuff would be better advised. It leaves me, anyway, with this weird sense that McGeeney manages to simultaneously over and under achieve in some ways.
A bit of truth in what you say. The biggest testament to his management is that players improve under him rather than regress and he creates a very strong culture where people buy into him and put the team first. I can think of plenty of examples of other counties (and have seen it in Armagh before) where players with lots of potential at a young age don't progress as they should. With Armagh we have players who didn't particularly shine at underage but develop into very strong county players who would get on any team. New players come into a very strong environment that helps them perform to their best. I'm not sure they could develop and perform to that same level in a lot of other counties. That has kept Armagh competitive and at the top table over the past few years, which has been no mean feat given the lack of underage and club success. In short he is getting the maximum from the playing resources at his disposal, which is all any sensible supporter could ask for. I think a lot of Armagh supporters would hold that view.
Quote from: Armamike on June 21, 2026, 10:26:58 AMQuote from: cavanmaniac on June 21, 2026, 12:32:57 AMMcGeeney-managed teams are always a curious conundrum to me. I find him a very compelling individual, right back to his playing days. First of all, he enjoys longevity in jobs that's not commensurate with trophies won, nor compatible with the trend of more impatient county boards who operate on 2/3 year cycles now. At or beyond the point where you think he should move or be moved on, he remains, and suddenly moves the needle forward for a season or two. It's possibly a mark of the esteem he's held in by the players under his charge, and the incremental, gradual, slow-building nature of his projects, that means, although trophies might not be flowing, there's generally enough of an upward curve over time to encourage perseverance. Armagh were in a very dark place when he took over, if memory serves.
Another thing I feel hallmarks his sides is an ability to turn games against any shade of opposition into mini epics. Not today, obviously, but there are plentiful examples of close, tense battles against teams deemed both better and worse than his at various stages in their respective cycles - the former which garnish his reputation as a manager, and the latter to make you wonder if there isn't a degree of overthinking or over forensic strategising going on, when perhaps letting talented players play a bit more off the cuff would be better advised. It leaves me, anyway, with this weird sense that McGeeney manages to simultaneously over and under achieve in some ways.
A bit of truth in what you say. The biggest testament to his management is that players improve under him rather than regress and he creates a very strong culture where people buy into him and put the team first. I can think of plenty of examples of other counties (and have seen it in Armagh before) where players with lots of potential at a young age don't progress as they should. With Armagh we have players who didn't particularly shine at underage but develop into very strong county players who would get on any team. New players come into a very strong environment that helps them perform to their best. I'm not sure they could develop and perform to that same level in a lot of other counties. That has kept Armagh competitive and at the top table over the past few years, which has been no mean feat given the lack of underage and club success. In short he is getting the maximum from the playing resources at his disposal, which is all any sensible supporter could ask for. I think a lot of Armagh supporters would hold that view.
Would agree with this, has been working with zero underage success and not the best club game in Armagh, if I was an Armagh supporter I wouldn't be looking rid of McGeeney
He has them at a level I don't think many others could get them to, in Tyrone or Derry if a man is getting no football on the county panel for 2 years they're straight off the panel and back to the club, the fact Armagh lads will dog it out and wait their turn is a good sign for McGeeney
On Kerry - really don't see them being stopped now, if we draw them next week they will write us off as well
One challenge for the winners this weekend is they will be playing 3 games in 15 days which is a tough schedule in GAA.
Clutching at straws a bit, but Kerry are unlikely to have as power-packed a performance next weekend.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 21, 2026, 10:55:28 AMOne challenge for the winners this weekend is they will be playing 3 games in 15 days which is a tough schedule in GAA.
Clutching at straws a bit, but Kerry are unlikely to have as power-packed a performance next weekend.
It probably will be a factor for some of the teams. Looking at last year Kerry and Donegal played 3 weekends in a row and managed to come out the other side whereas Dublin and Galway were nipped at the quarter finals stage having played the 3 matches.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 21, 2026, 07:34:12 AMDisappointed to say the least. Not a rec and looked like ball over line in first half. We play probably the best brand of football at the moment. Full on. But defensively we not where we need to be.
That all been said congratulations to mayo and best wishes for remainder of the year.
We dust ourselves down and look forward to the league.
Hon the royal
Of course it was no red card (could have been a black for Mayo first actually) but thought Meath lost it in the 3-5 mins before half time. 9 points up they had chances to push that out to 11 but instead coughed up 2 points to leave a manageable gap for Mayo.
The few key turnovers, particularly by Costello if have to say, allowed Mayo grow into the game. A tough one to take for Meath.
Disappointing and frustrating end to the season but not that surprising a result yesterday.
I think it was Stefan Campbell on GAA+ who talked about their success in terms of getting the ball to hand and not making unforced errors after the Ulster final. He said there was a big focus on that in training with misplaced passes and dropped ball punished.
It was a lack of discipline in this area that cost them in the last two games with bad turnovers at crucial moments costing them. Deep down maybe they were satisfied with the Ulster because there looked to be a lack of energy about them in the last three games, even in the win over Derry.
The goal before half-time was the game changer yesterday but truthfully I don't think it would have made much difference. Rafferty taking some abuse for that goal but I go back to the turnover. The only question I have is why was he up there when he didn't try one long range effort the in whole first half.
McGeeney spoke well after the match and made no excuses. He has done alright this year with the Ulster and the injuries to key players. However, he needs to be careful not to be too loyal the the older lads. The lack of impact and use of the bench was worrying theme of the league in particular.
McGeeney mightn't have made excuses but there are some shortcomings of the new format that need ironed out. Teams that lost the first day out were better off than teams who lost in Round 2 as they had an extra week to recover. That certainly cost Armagh yesterday.
Also, is there something slightly wrong in that Tyrone will reach a QF with three championship games played while Armagh have played seven and haven't made a QF. I know it's across two different competitions but if this is the future you are going to see genuine AI contenders think carefully about their priorities particularly in Ulster.
At the end of the day I think Armagh found out that despite the bookmakers odds, they weren't realisticly in the running with injuries in key positions and something of a transition. McGeeney a good man to steer them through it.
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Tell you what you do with that, f**k away off and when you get there f**k away off abit further.
Without Geezer we'd be bouncing between division 2 and 3 and hoping for a couple of wins in Ulster and probably playing tinpot cup football. Man has led us to an All Ireland and Ulster title in the last few years and has us punching way above our weight.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 11:46:55 AMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Tell you what you do with that, f**k away off and when you get there f**k away off abit further.
Without Geezer we'd be bouncing between division 2 and 3 and hoping for a couple of wins in Ulster and probably playing tinpot cup football. Man has led us to an All Ireland and Ulster title in the last few years and has us punching way above our weight.
And a wee bit further again.
Mild shock on the cards in Clones later? Monaghan can always be relied upon to be unreliable.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 21, 2026, 07:34:12 AMDisappointed to say the least. Not a rec and looked like ball over line in first half. We play probably the best brand of football at the moment. Full on. But defensively we not where we need to be.
That all been said congratulations to mayo and best wishes for remainder of the year.
We dust ourselves down and look forward to the league.
Hon the royal
Feels like a setback for that group but tis what it is.
I just dont like the back to back games no matter what ppl say. It would have been ridiculous in old days before teams were as highly prepared, its just insanity now and it feels out of touch / borderline abusive on players.
Not sure if either result would be much of a shock, 2 decent sides with Monaghan slight favourites at home in my book
Quote from: APM on June 21, 2026, 11:13:19 AMDisappointing and frustrating end to the season but not that surprising a result yesterday.
I think it was Stefan Campbell on GAA+ who talked about their success in terms of getting the ball to hand and not making unforced errors after the Ulster final. He said there was a big focus on that in training with misplaced passes and dropped ball punished.
It was a lack of discipline in this area that cost them in the last two games with bad turnovers at crucial moments costing them. Deep down maybe they were satisfied with the Ulster because there looked to be a lack of energy about them in the last three games, even in the win over Derry.
The goal before half-time was the game changer yesterday but truthfully I don't think it would have made much difference. Rafferty taking some abuse for that goal but I go back to the turnover. The only question I have is why was he up there when he didn't try one long range effort the in whole first half.
McGeeney spoke well after the match and made no excuses. He has done alright this year with the Ulster and the injuries to key players. However, he needs to be careful not to be too loyal the the older lads. The lack of impact and use of the bench was worrying theme of the league in particular.
McGeeney mightn't have made excuses but there are some shortcomings of the new format that need ironed out. Teams that lost the first day out were better off than teams who lost in Round 2 as they had an extra week to recover. That certainly cost Armagh yesterday.
Also, is there something slightly wrong in that Tyrone will reach a QF with three championship games played while Armagh have played seven and haven't made a QF. I know it's across two different competitions but if this is the future you are going to see genuine AI contenders think carefully about their priorities particularly in Ulster.
At the end of the day I think Armagh found out that despite the bookmakers odds, they weren't realisticly in the running with injuries in key positions and something of a transition. McGeeney a good man to steer them through it.
Yeah good post. Hopefully Grugan and Murnin give it another year, I'd say Forker will go again if the body allows as he'll not want his last act to be costing us that Louth game. Needs to be some changes in the winter in terms of game plan, would love to see us kick the ball more and we need to be more of a threat for 2 pointers. A few big speedy brutes of men for man marking the likes of a Clifford and for winning ball in midfield would be worth their weight in gold as would a reliable 2 point threat.
Was a huge ask going down there with the turnaround and the lads missing and in fairness we looked decent for about 44 minutes but the goal was a killer as were all the missed shots in the first half when on top and you need to be near perfect to beat a team like Kerry.
Hopefully we get the injuries cleared up over the off season now and get a full panel for next year. Rian is obviously a massive loss and probably the biggest difference in terms of us being able to compete against the top teams, hopefully he gets himself straightened out over the winter and back doing what he does best next year, the younger brother should be looking at breaking in next year as well, some talent. McCambridge and Mackin will help as well if they can get their places back. Will be supporting Galway and whoever is playing Donegal for the rest of the year now.
QuoteQuoteDisappointing and frustrating end to the season but not that surprising a result yesterday.
I think it was Stefan Campbell on GAA+ who talked about their success in terms of getting the ball to hand and not making unforced errors after the Ulster final. He said there was a big focus on that in training with misplaced passes and dropped ball punished.
It was a lack of discipline in this area that cost them in the last two games with bad turnovers at crucial moments costing them. Deep down maybe they were satisfied with the Ulster because there looked to be a lack of energy about them in the last three games, even in the win over Derry.
The goal before half-time was the game changer yesterday but truthfully I don't think it would have made much difference. Rafferty taking some abuse for that goal but I go back to the turnover. The only question I have is why was he up there when he didn't try one long range effort the in whole first half.
McGeeney spoke well after the match and made no excuses. He has done alright this year with the Ulster and the injuries to key players. However, he needs to be careful not to be too loyal the the older lads. The lack of impact and use of the bench was worrying theme of the league in particular.
McGeeney mightn't have made excuses but there are some shortcomings of the new format that need ironed out. Teams that lost the first day out were better off than teams who lost in Round 2 as they had an extra week to recover. That certainly cost Armagh yesterday.
Also, is there something slightly wrong in that Tyrone will reach a QF with three championship games played while Armagh have played seven and haven't made a QF. I know it's across two different competitions but if this is the future you are going to see genuine AI contenders think carefully about their priorities particularly in Ulster.
At the end of the day I think Armagh found out that despite the bookmakers odds, they weren't realisticly in the running with injuries in key positions and something of a transition. McGeeney a good man to steer them through it.
Yeah good post. Hopefully Grugan and Murnin give it another year, I'd say Forker will go again if the body allows as he'll not want his last act to be costing us that Louth game. Needs to be some changes in the winter in terms of game plan, would love to see us kick the ball more and we need to be more of a threat for 2 pointers. A few big speedy brutes of men for man marking the likes of a Clifford and for winning ball in midfield would be worth their weight in gold as would a reliable 2 point threat.
Was a huge ask going down there with the turnaround and the lads missing and in fairness we looked decent for about 44 minutes but the goal was a killer as were all the missed shots in the first half when on top and you need to be near perfect to beat a team like Kerry.
Hopefully we get the injuries cleared up over the off season now and get a full panel for next year. Rian is obviously a massive loss and probably the biggest difference in terms of us being able to compete against the top teams, hopefully he gets himself straightened out over the winter and back doing what he does best next year, the younger brother should be looking at breaking in next year as well, some talent. McCambridge and Mackin will help as well if they can get their places back. Will be supporting Galway and whoever is playing Donegal for the rest of the year now.
I'll just be shouting for ABD (anyone but Donegal). They're the ABE (anyone but England) of the GAA championship
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 12:22:05 PMNot sure if either result would be much of a shock, 2 decent sides with Monaghan slight favourites at home in my book
Agreed, Westmeath have had a more impressive campaign in 26 for sure. Their "walking wounded" narrative has seemed into thinking. 9/4 now which is the best value of the weekend.
Windy day in Croke Park. 35k the expected attendance in the recent past a Donegal v Dublin knock out game would sell out.
Max Campbell for Ryan McHugh, Shea Malone for Oisin Gallen the changes for Donegal.
Three changes to the Dublin starting team.
Lee Gannon, Peadar Ó Cofaigh Byrne & Colm Basquel all start, replacing Greg McEneaney, Eoin Kennedy & Sean Bugler.
Murphy with the closed fists already?
Ger Canning still thinks changes to the starting team are made just 5 minutes before throw in.
When you look at that Dublin team on paper, it's head scratching how they've been so bad this season.
After 15 minutes Dublin 0-2 Donegal 0-4.
Two Corduff clubmates on the pitch in Croke Park, one playing for Donegal and one reffing.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 11:46:55 AMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 20, 2026, 10:02:20 PMArmagh serve up yet another bokefest under Geezer and dumbfuk add-zero value mckeever. Both of you please step down and allow Armagh football to move forward...
Tell you what you do with that, f**k away off and when you get there f**k away off abit further.
Without Geezer we'd be bouncing between division 2 and 3 and hoping for a couple of wins in Ulster and probably playing tinpot cup football. Man has led us to an All Ireland and Ulster title in the last few years and has us punching way above our weight.
Just a troll wanting a response. Not an Armagh supporter!
Goal for Donegal from a poor short Dublin kick out. Dublin 0-5 Donegal 1-6 after 23 minutes.
Dublin goal from a poor short Donegal kick out. After 31 minutes Dublin 1-8 Donegal 1-7.
Con with a goal after a horror miss.
Dubs up by 1 playing positive and direct.
108 /107
Murphy should be coming off the bench like Aidan O'Shea.
Mad to watch the quality of this game when you compare to the quality of these counties in the recent past
It really is just Kerry and then a huge gulf to everyone else at this point
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 21, 2026, 01:52:45 PMMurphy should be coming off the bench like Aidan O'Shea.
Played his role on that Donegal goal they lead 2-7 to 1-8 half time.
Super stuff from Paddy Small.
Ciaran Moore brutal wide.
Not sure this will even spark, feels like too warm a day for it.
Mchugh and gallen on now...youd feel donegal will start building a lead
Some truly awful forward play on show from both teams at times here.
After 50 minutes and all to play for Dublin 1-12 Donegal 2-10
If Dubs hit a two pointer or goal Donegal could be in real trouble. Their shooting has been brutal, ryan mchugh and Gallen off bench hit howlers.
Quote from: gallsman on June 21, 2026, 02:30:51 PMSome truly awful forward play on show from both teams at times here.
Need a thanks/thumbs-up button on this forum!
Shocking shooting and also reluctance to take on the shot, so all round terrible forward play.
Poor game, Donegal look like a team whose bubble's burst. But, some games are just about winning
The standard of shooting here is absolutely atrocious
Quote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 02:33:48 PMThe standard of shooting here is absolutely atrocious
Yes awful. 14 Wides and many more kicked short.
Level game with 13 minutes left.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2026, 02:33:08 PMPoor game, Donegal look like a team whose bubble's burst. But, some games are just about winning
You'd think whoever wins will find it tough next week
Quote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 01:54:47 PMMad to watch the quality of this game when you compare to the quality of these counties in the recent past
It really is just Kerry and then a huge gulf to everyone else at this point
Fairly sure one of these teams beat Kerry in Killarney a few weeks ago!
Lee Gannon with the worst one of the lot.
Donegal look tired and unable to engineer simple scores.
Dubs letting them off hook with that goal chance and simple wides.
Langan made bizarre error carrying into two dubs.
Forward play by both teams have been shocking. Dublin have had some amount of wides last 5 mins.
8 minutes left Dublin 1-15 Donegal 2-12.
Quote from: screenexile on June 21, 2026, 02:39:08 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 01:54:47 PMMad to watch the quality of this game when you compare to the quality of these counties in the recent past
It really is just Kerry and then a huge gulf to everyone else at this point
Fairly sure one of these teams beat Kerry in Killarney a few weeks ago!
Kerry in Croke Park knockout football are always going to be a different proposition. And that's if Donegal were actually playing well - which they're absolutely not
Level again with 6 minutes to play 1-17 to 2-14.
Donegal one in front 4 minutes to go.
Dublin goal they lead by 2.
Was just gonna say Dubs deserve if they get a goal...there ya go.
2 points ahead with 3mins left. Donegal are banjaxed.
Nice for Ger Brennan if they hang on
Donegal going out..
i have to hand to Ger, for all his faux pas he has given his commentary every ounce of his maximalist excitement to inject life into this game.
Dublin lead by three with a minute left.
WTF!
Two pointer effort for Donegal to bring this game to extra-time.
Murphy scores it. Foolish by Dublin to get caught out on a breach.
McNally stopped time for 2 point free. Right call I think.
Murphy delivers!
And the dirt begins. Typical donegal
Was a free earlier than the one that was given for the slide tackle.
The worst of all outcomes
Absolutely disgusting by the referee.
Blatant blatant steering of the game.
I don't like Dublin but f**k me, that's as bad a call as I've ever seen
The ref was doing grand until that call.
That is an abysmal decision to move that free up.
He wont have the balls to black card that kn**ker Murphy for starting the row either
Quote from: thewobbler on June 21, 2026, 02:55:43 PMAbsolutely disgusting by the referee.
Blatant blatant steering of the game.
I don't like Dublin but f**k me, that's as bad a call as I've ever seen
Nonsense.
Quote from: Main Street on June 21, 2026, 02:56:23 PMThe ref was doing grand until that call.
Certainly looked like a poor call
Quote from: thewobbler on June 21, 2026, 02:55:43 PMAbsolutely disgusting by the referee.
Blatant blatant steering of the game.
I don't like Dublin but f**k me, that's as bad a call as I've ever seen
Disgraceful. Donegal will win it now unless they lose men for the handbags
Quote from: Main Street on June 21, 2026, 02:50:50 PMi have to hand to Ger, for all his faux pas he has given his commentary every ounce of his maximalist excitement to inject life into this game.
Yep. We need that type of elder pro broadcaster. Real issue with GAA+ is retired players droning on. They should have a "game audio only" option.
Bad call, but had Dublin controlled it in the middle that is over.
Dublin clearly working towards at least some level of quality.
Dublin were robbed there.
Need to see that call again still not quite sure what happened!
Did he not move it up because dublin stopped the quick free? I didnt s
Think was bad call in real time
I'd need another look at that, felt harsh on first look. Donegal out of jail big time they've been shocking. Was it moved up for Dublin delaying?
Whether you think the ball should be brought up or not - just awful game management by Dublin to even allow this to be a possibility. Comerford way too quick with the final kickout, be a bit cuter and take your time FFS. And then not getting away from the Donegal player when a free is given on the halfway line with 12 seconds left... I mean Jesus lads are you not aware of the rules nowadays, get back in position and make Donegal try a potshot from nowhere
Crazy stuff to see from a team who were almost too disciplined over the past 15 odd years. The team under Gavin would never be that dumb
Kilkenny has never struck me as a dirty player so you'd wonder what happened that set Murphy off? Or maybe he was just looking for a scrap?
What was the issue with the moving it up call? Dublin didn't return ball from what I saw? Need to watch again tho.
About the only thing I want to see is what led the the ref to make that call.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 21, 2026, 02:59:14 PMKilkenny has never struck me as a dirty player so you'd wonder what happened that set Murphy off? Or maybe he was just looking for a scrap?
Murphy being Murphy as usual.
Some baller but a bigger p***k
This is just great news for the 4 teams waiting in the quarters. Whoever came out of this game, all those teams probably fancied their chances given the poor quality of what we've seen today. Now the winners will not only have to play 3 weeks in a row, but with ET added in. I don't see a huge uplift in quality next weekend from whoever prevails here
Was it not a free for lying over ball?
Quote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 02:59:10 PMWhether you think the ball should be brought up or not - just awful game management by Dublin to even allow this to be a possibility. Comerford way too quick with the final kickout, be a bit cuter and take your time FFS. And then not getting away from the Donegal player when a free is given on the halfway line with 12 seconds left... I mean Jesus lads are you not aware of the rules nowadays, get back in position and make Donegal try a potshot from nowhere
Crazy stuff to see from a team who were almost too disciplined over the past 15 odd years. The team under Gavin would never be that dumb
Awful game management. The handing the ball nonsense needs to be scrapped. Leaving it on the ground is enough. Dublin will be kicking themselves if they lose in extra time. On Donegal could see today how and why they lost to Cork and Down at home.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 21, 2026, 03:02:19 PMWas it not a free for lying over ball?
Seems to be touch on ground.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 21, 2026, 02:59:25 PMWhat was the issue with the moving it up call? Dublin didn't return ball from what I saw? Need to watch again tho.
Return the ball to who? He didn't foul anyone. He placed the ball back exactly at the spot where he was adjudged to touch the ball on the ground.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 21, 2026, 03:02:19 PMWas it not a free for lying over ball?
Yes i think so, dont have any issue with it. So silly from dublin. Donegal prob win from here but they are far off the pace for whatever reason
After the whistle I thought the Dub player just placed the ball on the ground and left the scene.
How was that free broguht up. Unbelievable by the ref. Hope donegal get stuffed in extra time. Murphy showing his true colours hitting after scoring the free
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 21, 2026, 03:02:19 PMWas it not a free for lying over ball?
Either that or touching it on the ground, but pure stupidity from the Dublin player for setting it on the ground instead of handing it over.
About 10 black cards I think.
Quote from: downgael2065 on June 21, 2026, 03:04:12 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 21, 2026, 03:02:19 PMWas it not a free for lying over ball?
Yes i think so, dont have any is4sue with it. So silly from dublin. Donegal prob win from here but they are far off the pace for whatever reason
Dublin player was on the ground before the free. He got up and placed the ball at the feet of the donegal player. What the hell else was he supposed to do
Quote from: thewobbler on June 21, 2026, 03:04:04 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on June 21, 2026, 02:59:25 PMWhat was the issue with the moving it up call? Dublin didn't return ball from what I saw? Need to watch again tho.
Return the ball to who? He didn't foul anyone. He placed the ball back exactly at the spot where he was adjudged to touch the ball on the ground.
They're saying he picked up and put it down again but yeah, who was he supposed to give it to
Just watched again. Dubs should be unhappy with that! Should have been free to Donegal but not sure why moved up.
Quote from: Main Street on June 21, 2026, 03:04:22 PMAfter the whistle I thought the Dub player just placed the ball on the ground and left the scene.
Yeah the brains that make the rules have decided you have to hand it back like a good wee child. And the brainless refs haven't the common sense to use discretion.
Definitely a free. 50 m penalty is the controversy. Unbelievable drama, you cant cut it finer than that.
Donegal will get a bounce but black cards might suit the higher quality dub threats. Small is a huge loss, he was superb.
Someone said it during the week. That Donegal team are like the Tyrone team of the noughties. Always some shit going on.
Hard to imagine that the officials will not be looking at the RTE replays of the rumpus
If he even held it and a Donegal player rips it off him that's fine but when he puts it back on the ground he's liable to get blown!
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 21, 2026, 03:05:52 PMDublin player was on the ground before the free. He got up and placed the ball at the feet of the donegal player. What the hell else was he supposed to do
He's supposed to hand it to a Donegal player. I'm not that fond of the rule but that's what it is. Why take the chance in that situation.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:07:10 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 21, 2026, 03:04:22 PMAfter the whistle I thought the Dub player just placed the ball on the ground and left the scene.
Yeah the brains that make the rules have decided you have to hand it back like a good wee child. And the brainless refs haven't the common sense to use discretion.
It can be interpreted as time wasting but the common sense thing would be to let free be taken from that spot so long as the ball hasnt gone backwards on the field.
Magee and Murphy gone. Huge
Quote from: Angus MacGyver on June 21, 2026, 01:35:23 PMTwo Corduff clubmates on the pitch in Croke Park, one playing for Donegal and one reffing.
This doesn't look great now.... Referee and Jason McGee two club mates, not the best look McNally doing Donegal games
Four black cards to start extra time
Fair play didn't think hed have the balls for that
Not a harsh call imo, just hand it back and dublin win think the rule is not great though
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 21, 2026, 03:10:47 PMQuote from: Angus MacGyver on June 21, 2026, 01:35:23 PMTwo Corduff clubmates on the pitch in Croke Park, one playing for Donegal and one reffing.
This doesn't look great now.... Referee and Jason McGee two club mates, not the best look McNally doing Donegal games
I'll take it back poor Jason has just been black carded, that's one for a quiz question
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
Can see Dub goal. Donegal need some sort of miracle based on the general way theyve played
Quote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
Magee should have seen red, he jabbed dub backroom member in face, lightly I may add
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:01:04 PMQuote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 21, 2026, 02:59:14 PMKilkenny has never struck me as a dirty player so you'd wonder what happened that set Murphy off? Or maybe he was just looking for a scrap?
Murphy being Murphy as usual.
Some baller but a bigger p***k
As you've made clear on many occasions, you don't think anything shy of murder merits any sort of discipline in such a manly sport, which is ironic given you've described murder as necessary.
Bit of pushing and shoving, nothing more. Dealt with by the ref.
Donegal melting down here.
Four blacks is the new two yellows
Isn't that a TV show?
Quote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
Dublin 2-23 Donegal 2-18 off the post in what could have been a 3rd Dublin goal.
Half-time in extra time Dublin 2-23 Donegal 2-20.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:19:33 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
They could apply the correct rules for starters. Contributing to a melee is a straight red card, not a black.
Both teams will be fucked for next week!
Bad news for Dublin if Con has tweaked the hamstring.
Ryan McHugh[?] with a pathetic handpass that could have given Donegal an undeserved goal.
Dubs should have it wrapped up only hit post. 2 ptr from breach just kept Donegal in it
Quote from: gallsman on June 21, 2026, 03:17:57 PMDonegal melting down here.
That 2 pointer at the end will be a big help
I have a bad feeling Donegal will win this. That Dublin shot hitting the post said it all. Lucky is hanging out of them.
Why is Canavan and Gooch at the hurling and not the football?
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 21, 2026, 03:21:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:19:33 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
They could apply the correct rules for starters. Contributing to a melee is a straight red card, not a black.
Only time I have ever seen this was armagh vs tyrone. Gaa continually ignoring their own rules
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 21, 2026, 03:16:11 PMCan see Dub goal. Donegal need some sort of miracle based on the general way theyve played
Donegal have been very disappointing this year. 2 losses so far and another one on the way.
That was a free out there!!
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 21, 2026, 03:25:19 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 21, 2026, 03:21:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:19:33 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
They could apply the correct rules for starters. Contributing to a melee is a straight red card, not a black.
Only time I have ever seen this was armagh vs tyrone. Gaa continually ignoring their own rules
The melee rule has changed. It's a Black card now, not a Red.
3 minutes to play Dublin 2-25 Donegal 2-22
No impact out of Gallen today.
Murphy and mcguinness will go , donegal not contenders no more
Donegal made a huge burst of effort and are back to 3 down.
Gallen has been poor. Seems all flash. Donegal out!
Jim overlooked the new rules involving the two pointer...again
Result Dublin 2-26 Donegal 2-22. Upset win but the best team won. Cork,Galway or Tyrone for them next. Donegal out and the end of McGuinness 2nd term with them?
Dublin or Kerry are going to win it again aren't they :zz
That is brilliant.
Will this be the end for Jim and Murphy? Donegal need a bit of a reset and freshening up imo
Ger Canning STILL doesn't know the scoring system or the square ball rule.
What a weekend of results.
The Jacks are Back!
For another week at least.
Quote from: Brendan on June 21, 2026, 03:39:19 PMDublin or Kerry are going to win it again aren't they :zz
Yep, one of those 2 for sure...
Donegal with a very Derry 2024 like run although we scraped into a QF
Thank feck for that.
Dub support reduced but still key. On form sheet Dubs should hammer Kerry eh? Lol
Galway probably the only team left that can give Kerry a game. They'd need to be full out and fully fit to do that though.
Quote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 03:40:02 PMQuote from: Brendan on June 21, 2026, 03:39:19 PMDublin or Kerry are going to win it again aren't they :zz
Yep, one of those 2 for sure...
Galway are better than Dublin.
Donegal have been too inconsistent this year.
Murphy definitely will retire imo, jim will likely depart. Mark mchugh clear candidate to replace jim
Dublin deserved that
Quote from: jb77 on June 21, 2026, 03:40:18 PMDonegal with a very Derry 2024 like run although we scraped into a QF
The way McGuiness and Gallagher train boys they only last 2-3 years and then there is a massive drop off
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 21, 2026, 03:42:13 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 03:40:02 PMQuote from: Brendan on June 21, 2026, 03:39:19 PMDublin or Kerry are going to win it again aren't they :zz
Yep, one of those 2 for sure...
Galway are better than Dublin.
Donegal have been too inconsistent this year.
You could also say that Kerry or Louth/Cork/whoever will win the AI... I'm saying Kerry will win and I'm not sure who will give them a game. Kerry v Galway in th quarters would certainly be the most interesting outcome and possibly throw the cat among the pigeons
Dublin should have won in normal time and got the job in extra time.
Donegal four championship matches. Lost at home to Down. Beat Kerry by 10 points in Killarney. Lost at home to Cork. Knocked out of the championship by Dublin team who themselves had lost to Westmeath,Louth in Croke Park and their manager who wanted the game played in Parnell Park.
I think McGuinness will go too, I remarked during the game he didn't look his normal highly animated self. I dont think he's a long term builder like McGeeney, but who knows.
Quote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 03:47:13 PMQuote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 21, 2026, 03:42:13 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 21, 2026, 03:40:02 PMQuote from: Brendan on June 21, 2026, 03:39:19 PMDublin or Kerry are going to win it again aren't they :zz
Yep, one of those 2 for sure...
Galway are better than Dublin.
Donegal have been too inconsistent this year.
You could also say that Kerry or Louth/Cork/whoever will win the AI... I'm saying Kerry will win and I'm not sure who will give them a game. Kerry v Galway in th quarters would certainly be the most interesting outcome and possibly throw the cat among the pigeons
Tyrone are waiting watching this all unfold...
Quote from: craicwas90 on June 21, 2026, 03:49:09 PMTyrone are waiting watching this all unfold...
This is the point where the Tyrone brigade emerge to remind everyone how their Kerry's bogey team ::)
Terrible game between two struggling teams. Donegal looked leggy from the outset and Dublin were barely any better.
Quote from: Brendan on June 21, 2026, 03:39:19 PMDublin or Kerry are going to win it again aren't they :zz
Kerry yes.
Doubt Dublin are going much further. Next week will be Dublins 3rd match in 14 days add in extra time today and Con O'Callaghan sure to miss out with a muscle injury.
Cork,Galway or Tyrone should beat them next weekend.
If kerry get galway tomorrow could be good 1/4 final but after that i would fear a cake walk for kerry
Louth to get to the All-Ireland final if they avoid Kerry in the draw tomorrow and semi-final.
Beggan is ludicrous.
I think Mc Guinness burns teams out and you can see that today.
They looked very tired and jaded in the heat.
In old rules its likely Donegal would have won Sam last year imo.
They failed to adapt to the new reality. Monaghan have scored Donegals total 2ptrs in 7 mins.
Expect them to win this at home.
Quote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 04:09:47 PMI think Mc Guinness burns teams out and you can see that today.
They looked very tired and jaded in the heat.
I'm not so sure it's burnout, so much as players inevitably begin to question this training / playing style before too long, unless it is clearly reaping dividends.
There is no chance any of them came out of the AI final last year thinking "this is the way" for Jimmy's way.
Huge hit. Exciting game.
As to Jimmys way in the modern era its extremely difficult for a managers brainwashing to hold. He would have them convinced they would win sam and only need to do XYZ [reduce life expectancy by 5 years].
Monaghan 0-8 Westmeath 1-5. Beggan probably should have done better on that goal.
Beggan not good on that 2nd Westmeath goal. 2-7 to 0-13
This is a cracking game... defences absolutely shite but forwards are shooting the lights out!
Beggan will have nightmares
Quote from: Angus MacGyver on June 21, 2026, 11:13:11 AMQuote from: Dunneroyal on June 21, 2026, 07:34:12 AMDisappointed to say the least. Not a rec and looked like ball over line in first half. We play probably the best brand of football at the moment. Full on. But defensively we not where we need to be.
That all been said congratulations to mayo and best wishes for remainder of the year.
We dust ourselves down and look forward to the league.
Hon the royal
Of course it was no red card (could have been a black for Mayo first actually) but thought Meath lost it in the 3-5 mins before half time. 9 points up they had chances to push that out to 11 but instead coughed up 2 points to leave a manageable gap for Mayo.
The few key turnovers, particularly by Costello if have to say, allowed Mayo grow into the game. A tough one to take for Meath.
Definitely a tough one even with the red card that wasn't we should have been out of sight. We let them back in
Half-time Monaghan 0-15 Westmeath 2-9. The intensity Westmeath brought to that 1st half is like chalk and cheese to what Roscommon brought to Clones last week. Have they got the bench and fitness to keep it going now?
That was a bad error from Beggan , he had a teammate in the clear who he could have punched the ball to.
Congrats to the dubs. Hard to belive we managed to take it to ET, but the best team won out in the end. Plenty of soul searching to be done after this and likely lots of change needed for 2027.
I just saw one of the stewards lining the children up behind the half time commentary. Nice work rather than chasing them.
Robbie Ford has the most awkward kicking style but has 2 great points to hus name.
Great end to end game.
Farney goal coming
Goal for Monaghan. Monaghan 1-22 Westmeath 2-14.
Monaghan 7 in front now. Westmeath running on empty will need a big impact off their bench yo get back into this game now
Monaghan 1-27 Westmeath 2-16 with 6 minutes to play.
Result Monaghan 1-28 Westmeath 2-19
Nailed it
So 4 home wins. The home draw was vital. GAA have to be thinking neutral venue for this stage next year.
Brilliant season for Westmeath, hope they can get another year out of McHugh.
Few will weep for the demise of Dun na nGall.
Beggan obviously injured there. Didn't take a 45 10 minutes ago. Their 1/4 final hopes reduced greatly if he doesn't make it.
Last 8
Cork,Galway,Louth,Tyrone
Mayo,Dublin,Kerry,Monaghan
Repeat pairings not allowed
Mayo v Tyrone
Dublin v Louth
Kerry v Cork
Quote from: square_ball on June 21, 2026, 05:37:11 PMBeggan obviously injured there. Didn't take a 45 10 minutes ago. Their 1/4 final hopes reduced greatly if he doesn't make it.
Very sensationalist post.
Ten minutes of a Monaghan 'power play' period in the second half was good enough to put the space between the teams. Westmeath are a very good team but couldn't stay the pace in the 2nd half even with a stronger wind at their back. Now it's prayer time for Rory's fitness, hopefully it was just precautionary, he did go straight down the tunnel.
Id rank them at this stage
Kerry
Galway
Tyrone
Dublin
Monaghan
Cork
Louth
Mayo
Was a wee bit nervous at HT I half to say, we weren't at our best but doing alright - but conceding 2 fairly preventable goals was pretty disappointing, and that gave Westmeath alot of confidence going into the break - and at that point you never know how things will pan out. Whittaker was causing havoc down that right side and he seemed to have the run of the pitch every time, but subbing on McGorman to mark him was a great tactical switch and his influence was greatly curtailed from there on
Still thought we were pretty scrappy starting the 2nd half and gave away the ball a few times too easily - but that purple patch midway through the half came from us, and thankfully that period gave us the cushion to be *somewhat* comfortable in the final 10 minutes. Alot of players stood up when the game was in the melting pot which is very encouraging. Some talk now about Beggan seeing as he came off, hopefully if there was any knock then it's only precautionary and he's grand for next week. Not many players more important or influential to their team
Quote from: OakLeaf on June 21, 2026, 03:32:02 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 21, 2026, 03:25:19 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 21, 2026, 03:21:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:19:33 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
They could apply the correct rules for starters. Contributing to a melee is a straight red card, not a black.
Only time I have ever seen this was armagh vs tyrone. Gaa continually ignoring their own rules
The melee rule has changed. It's a Black card now, not a Red.
Why this has to be explained to knowledgeable people is crazy, even worse in local club games.
I wonder might the new licensing rules "encourage" both McGuinness and McGeeney to make the switch from intercounty to club football sooner rather than later.
With County Boards having to account for every penny spent on county teams and Croke Park having far more control over spending, it really looks like it will put a serious hitch in the full-time intercounty manager.
Both of them are likely to be able to make more money in the next year or two managing club teams until the rules on clubs spending money are tightened up.
Two from each province is nice.
So 5 first round winners and 3 losers make up the last 8. Not maybe the huge advantage that winning your first game was supposed to bring. It's a strange system. We moved away from 6 day turn arounds for losers only to return to it.
I'll see how next week pans out before I make any determinations ok it.
Nice to still be involved at this stage
6 Division 1 teams, with the other 2 of the strongest out of it.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2026, 06:00:26 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on June 21, 2026, 03:32:02 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 21, 2026, 03:25:19 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 21, 2026, 03:21:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:19:33 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
They could apply the correct rules for starters. Contributing to a melee is a straight red card, not a black.
Only time I have ever seen this was armagh vs tyrone. Gaa continually ignoring their own rules
The melee rule has changed. It's a Black card now, not a Red.
Why this has to be explained to knowledgeable people is crazy, even worse in local club games.
Have you give many black cards for contributing to a melee?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 21, 2026, 06:58:01 PM6 Division 1 teams, with the other 2 of the strongest out of it.
5 Division 1 teams from this year. Dublin,Monaghan,Mayo,Galway,Kerry
3 Division 2 teams Cork,Tyrone,Louth.
Division 1 next year Cork,Mayo,Galway,Kerry
Division 2 next year
Dublin,Monaghan,Louth,Tyrone
Quote from: David McKeown on June 21, 2026, 06:35:00 PMSo 5 first round winners and 3 losers make up the last 8. Not maybe the huge advantage that winning your first game was supposed to bring. It's a strange system. We moved away from 6 day turn arounds for losers only to return to it.
I'll see how next week pans out before I make any determinations ok it.
I think you can only do this analysis after the next round. Let's see how the qualifiers get on after their third weekend in a row
Quote from: square_ball on June 21, 2026, 07:06:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2026, 06:00:26 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on June 21, 2026, 03:32:02 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 21, 2026, 03:25:19 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 21, 2026, 03:21:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 03:19:33 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 21, 2026, 03:14:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 21, 2026, 03:10:52 PMFour black cards to start extra time
That's a serious cop out by the GAA. Standard is in a melee, just black card 2 from each team.
What else can they do?
They could apply the correct rules for starters. Contributing to a melee is a straight red card, not a black.
Only time I have ever seen this was armagh vs tyrone. Gaa continually ignoring their own rules
The melee rule has changed. It's a Black card now, not a Red.
Why this has to be explained to knowledgeable people is crazy, even worse in local club games.
Have you give many black cards for contributing to a melee?
This year maybe one, red cards in the past, a few, could I have given a lot more? Most definitely
It's a can of worms once opened so I understand the reluctance of some refs
Donegal looked tired from early in 2nd half
Would love Galway to do it this year.
Kerry gonna eat everybody from here on in,
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 21, 2026, 07:35:42 PMKerry gonna eat everybody from here on in,
Not so sure. Think a woeful Armagh made them look better than they are. Time will tell. You could be right
Donegal finish up the year as McKenna Cup and League champions. Armagh finish up 2026 as Ulster champions.
Both have the trophies in the cabinet as we head into the winter.
Quote from: Armamike on June 21, 2026, 07:33:54 PMWould love Galway to do it this year.
Its their turn to be "Mayo to the Dubs" youd feel.
No one will touch Kerry bar some crazy scenarios like Tyrone scalping* them
*this might require machetes
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 21, 2026, 08:13:41 PMDonegal finish up the year as League champions and Armagh finish up as Ulster champions.
They have the trophies in the cabinet as we head into the winter.
And Roscommon,Westmeath won trophies.
Derry,Cavan,Kildare left to wonder are they coming or going the most. At least Meath got promoted and won a Division 2 trophy and sounds like management will be staying on.
Speaking of management
McGuinness? McGeeney?
McHugh to Donegal?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2026, 08:22:03 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 21, 2026, 08:13:41 PMDonegal finish up the year as League champions and Armagh finish up as Ulster champions.
They have the trophies in the cabinet as we head into the winter.
And Roscommon,Westmeath won trophies.
Derry,Cavan,Kildare left to wonder are they coming or going the most. At least Meath got promoted and won a Division 2 trophy and sounds like management will be staying on.
Promotion was extremely important to Meath. Felt we could have won Leinster but a up for it westmeath ambushed us and if truth be told probably derailed our whole season afterwards.
But we have silverware. Next year obviously have to remain and to be credible in division 1. Then need to win Leinster and get to last 4 in all Ireland.
No all Ireland for Meath in 27. But 28. That's what Robbie and the team need to focus on
Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2026, 08:30:52 PMSpeaking of management
McGuinness? McGeeney?
McHugh to Donegal?
Don't see Geezer leaving.
Sincerely hope not anyway
Brilliant weekends football, strangely the blockbuster game of the weekend ended up being the least exciting. Who'd have thought at the start of the year neither Donegal or Armagh would be in quarter finals, madness. Would like to see Galway do it now but wouldn't begrudge any of the remaining teams winning it (even Tyrone)
Who in Armagh or Donegal thinks they can do better than GeezerJim?
Ulster teams need to accept the new regime favours kicking and get to relentless coaching of techniqué.
Monaghan have so much threat from Beggan they are a nightmare if they run at you between midfield/45
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 21, 2026, 09:40:10 PMWho in Armagh or Donegal thinks they can do better than GeezerJim?
Ulster teams need to accept the new regime favours kicking and get to relentless coaching of techniqué.
Monaghan have so much threat from Beggan they are a nightmare if they run at you between midfield/45
Geezer won't leave yet. Jimmy might?
I think Galway would be the most universally popular winner at this point.
Apart from the bitter Mayo fans I don't think anyone would begrudge them an All Ireland.
Having said that Galway have an awful lot to prove but players getting back fit.
I'm not sure where all the belief in Galway is coming from. They have been bang average and haven't set the place alight. As others have said Kerry look to be coming good at the right time. Galway to me are at a level with the rest.
Quote from: Killala on June 21, 2026, 10:01:25 PMI'm not sure where all the belief in Galway is coming from. They have been bang average and haven't set the place alight. As others have said Kerry look to be coming good at the right time. Galway to me are at a level with the rest.
We know the talent they have and for the first time since 2022 they've near enough a full deck. (Bar the new celebrity) They're a very good side and will be hard stopped.
it was a weird one with Murphy totally losing his rag, he had to compose himself totally for the kick, he succeeded and it was high five time, the championship saved at the death, instead he turned into a raving lunatic. The black cards received cost Donegal a lot more.
Kilkenny must mentioned having 7 or 8 All-Irelands!!
Don't get the hype about Galway, they've beaten 2 division 3 teams one of which was beat out the gate by Monaghan. Yes they get some eye catching scores but have been beat by the only division 1 team they've played.
Tyrone have better form beating 2 division 1 teams in the past 2 weeks.
Would def cheer them on in a final if we don't get there but along way to go yet.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 21, 2026, 06:35:00 PMSo 5 first round winners and 3 losers make up the last 8. Not maybe the huge advantage that winning your first game was supposed to bring. It's a strange system. We moved away from 6 day turn arounds for losers only to return to it.
I'll see how next week pans out before I make any determinations ok it.
Very true.
No difference in losing a provincial final a few years ago , and playing in the back door 6 days later... To the likes of Armagh's gutwrenching late defeat last week , and having to go to Killarney 6 days later
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 21, 2026, 10:13:48 PMDon't get the hype about Galway, they've beaten 2 division 3 teams one of which was beat out the gate by Monaghan. Yes they get some eye catching scores but have been beat by the only division 1 team they've played.
Tyrone have better form beating 2 division 1 teams in the past 2 weeks.
Would def cheer them on in a final if we don't get there but along way to go yet.
I don't think there's much hype about Galway to be honest.
It's more that anyone who's been following football the past 3-5 years would be able to identify that they've got one hell of a big, athletic, talented and and balanced first XV if everyone is available.
But until such time comes as 90-95% of them are actually flying fit on the field at the same time, I'm going to side with my theory that they're overtrained and will always burn out in the modern condensed championship.
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 21, 2026, 10:13:48 PMDon't get the hype about Galway, they've beaten 2 division 3 teams one of which was beat out the gate by Monaghan. Yes they get some eye catching scores but have been beat by the only division 1 team they've played.
Tyrone have better form beating 2 division 1 teams in the past 2 weeks.
Would def cheer them on in a final if we don't get there but along way to go yet.
Don't think there is any real hype about them at all. But they do have a full deck as a previous poster mentioned.
Their strongest team on paper is arguably number 2 or 3 in the country. Unfortunately the game is played on grass though. They also have a glaring weakness in goalkeeper position.
With saying all that would I be in any way confident that they'd beat Dublin Monaghan Mayo or Kerry next day out... absolutely not on all 4 accounts.
Tyrone have had better results but they haven't a fully fit squad to pick from just yet.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 21, 2026, 08:17:43 PMQuote from: Armamike on June 21, 2026, 07:33:54 PMWould love Galway to do it this year.
Its their turn to be "Mayo to the Dubs" youd feel.
No one will touch Kerry bar some crazy scenarios like Tyrone scalping* them
*this might require machetes
Or fingers in the eyes , knees into the head, falling over after getting your hair ruffled.........
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 10:05:08 PMQuote from: Killala on June 21, 2026, 10:01:25 PMI'm not sure where all the belief in Galway is coming from. They have been bang average and haven't set the place alight. As others have said Kerry look to be coming good at the right time. Galway to me are at a level with the rest.
We know the talent they have and for the first time since 2022 they've near enough a full deck. (Bar the new celebrity) They're a very good side and will be hard stopped.
Matthew Thompson is still out. And is a big loss. I would feel more confident in our chances if he was available. Despite last year being his first year on the panel.
Galway have the physicality, experience and shooting power. They could rumble Kerry on their day but these Kerry lads are not just focused on this year but the next 5.
Feels like a 3 or more in a row team and said as much last year
Cheerio Donegal!
Cheerio Armagh!
Likely the end of both teams as a serious force in the sport for a good while.
Wonder if Geezer has the appetite for another rebuild.
Donegal 3rd best team ever beat by Dublins worst
31 counties wishing they had what Monaghan do.
Quote from: screenexile on June 21, 2026, 03:21:56 PMBoth teams will be fucked for next week!
Bingo.
To hell with the players
so stupid to have the All-Ireland rushed to be finished by July 26th.
Insane. a week from today June 28th, there will be FOUR teams left.
there wont be a word or any reporting or news about gaelic or hurling until October when county final are on.
Quote from: Main Street on June 21, 2026, 10:10:20 PMit was a weird one with Murphy totally losing his rag, he had to compose himself totally for the kick, he succeeded and it was high five time, the championship saved at the death, instead he turned into a raving lunatic. The black cards received cost Donegal a lot more.
Kilkenny was obviously mouthing off before the kick.
still stupid.
If Geezer stays in Armagh he needs to take the shackles off the team. At full flow their biggest strength is pace yet he wants it slowed down. Hasnt adapted well enough to the new game.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 21, 2026, 11:04:28 PMCheerio Donegal!
Cheerio Armagh!
Likely the end of both teams as a serious force in the sport for a good while.
asshole WUM
Go away you have polluted this website.
How did you inter cert go ?
As a Galway person I'd be in the unconvinced camp. We're being put forth by people and a casual media because everyone else has been blotting their copybooks and they need to find some alternative to Kerry. I don't think it's based on anything really bar "they've been making finals and they have a few lads back fit"
The team had a solid tactical identity when Cian O'Neill was there and has gone sharply downhill since he left. Every defence is struggling under these rules but Galway's has gone from probably the best in the country to being somewhat of a liability. Then you've the goalkeeper and kickout situation (on both ends). This was never good but has gone from poor to diabolical in the past 18 months.
They're living on individual brilliance. And that's not unexpected, there's some incredibly talented players there, and perhaps that alone can get them to win 3 big games. Comer especially is from what I've seen in limited stints, unmarkable under these new rules. It seems his max involvement will be 30 minutes however
If you get to a semi final stage and potentially have Thompsons vision back, with Comer inside and Walsh keeping his current form up, then yeah they can beat anyone. There's a bit too much to come together though to make it a likely outcome
Id especially worry about playing Kerry and the aforementioned Cian O'Neill on the opposite side. He knows every Galway players strengths and weakness better than anyone. Any given what his plans did to Armagh and Donegals kickouts on either end last year, id shudder to think of how he'll take apart Gleesons predictability from the tee, or Galway's limp press.
Quote from: joemamas on June 21, 2026, 11:50:06 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on June 21, 2026, 11:04:28 PMCheerio Donegal!
Cheerio Armagh!
Likely the end of both teams as a serious force in the sport for a good while.
asshole WUM
Go away you have polluted this website.
How did you inter cert go ?
It is a low life from Cavan, best ignored.
Quote from: joemamas on June 21, 2026, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 21, 2026, 03:21:56 PMBoth teams will be fucked for next week!
Bingo.
To hell with the players
so stupid to have the All-Ireland rushed to be finished by July 26th.
Insane. a week from today June 28th, there will be FOUR teams left.
there wont be a word or any reporting or news about gaelic or hurling until October when county final are on.
Does it really matter? Has Gaelic games died because it's finishing earlier at county level?
Quote from: joemamas on June 21, 2026, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 21, 2026, 03:21:56 PMBoth teams will be fucked for next week!
Bingo.
To hell with the players
so stupid to have the All-Ireland rushed to be finished by July 26th.
Insane. a week from today June 28th, there will be FOUR teams left.
there wont be a word or any reporting or news about gaelic or hurling until October when county final are on.
They haven't got much to work with but the fairest solution at this stage would be to put the Mayo and Kerry games on Saturday and the Dublin and Monaghan games on Sunday. At least that gives all 4 teams a 7 day break
The key points from the Jim McGuinness after match interview and to me it sounds like he'll be around next year.
30% more intensity required under the rules he reckons. That increase has caused players to burn out in games and more injuries especially hamstring injuries. Hamstring surgeons around the county very busy now.
You can't really train in between games anymore it's more minding players.
The game now is chaos with no control.
Should be 2 weeks between these games, they gonna have to find a few weeks in August in the future.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2026, 01:07:06 AMShould be 2 weeks between these games, they gonna have to find a few weeks in August in the future.
I think if next weekends QFs are a damp squib due to teams being overstretched they will look at adding a week break.
The QF weekend should be bigger than this wkend but it needs 8 fresh teams for that.
This weekend gone was brilliant for football.
Quote from: Angus MacGyver on June 22, 2026, 06:48:34 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2026, 01:07:06 AMShould be 2 weeks between these games, they gonna have to find a few weeks in August in the future.
I think if next weekends QFs are a damp squib due to teams being overstretched they will look at adding a week break.
The QF weekend should be bigger than this wkend but it needs 8 fresh teams for that.
This weekend gone was brilliant for football.
Win your first two games and you will be fresh. Come through the back door and that's the punishment. It's a good system imo
This freshness discussion is a look of waffle.
They have 6/7 days off to recover. Recovery starts straight after the game.
Here's an idea, maybe don't flog players for the previous 6 months.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 21, 2026, 10:44:44 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2026, 10:05:08 PMQuote from: Killala on June 21, 2026, 10:01:25 PMI'm not sure where all the belief in Galway is coming from. They have been bang average and haven't set the place alight. As others have said Kerry look to be coming good at the right time. Galway to me are at a level with the rest.
We know the talent they have and for the first time since 2022 they've near enough a full deck. (Bar the new celebrity) They're a very good side and will be hard stopped.
Matthew Thompson is still out. And is a big loss. I would feel more confident in our chances if he was available. Despite last year being his first year on the panel.
Is he the lad that was in America? Think one of the podcasts last week said he'd be back soon?
Quote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 08:09:34 AMThis freshness discussion is a look of waffle.
They have 6/7 days off to recover. Recovery starts straight after the game.
Here's an idea, maybe don't flog players for the previous 6 months.
It's not. You'll get basically 0 time to train for the next opponent, any sort of small niggle can leave lads not right for the next game, it definitely has an impact
The punishment shouldn't be players risking injury due to fatigue.
I am sure the GPA will be able to produce a study to suit whatever narrative they want to push on the latest structure and scheduling.
Quote from: joemamas on June 21, 2026, 11:43:57 PMthere wont be a word or any reporting or news about gaelic or hurling until October when county final are on.
What tangible effect does this have? I hear this all the time but no one has explained what this actually means for the GAA and people playing it. As far as I can see it has none.
Galway v Dublin
Cork v Mayo
Tyrone v Kerry
Louth v Monaghan
Galway Dublin and Louth Monaghan double header on Sunday to allow the extra days rest for teams that played yesterday?
Story on semi finals?
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 08:43:43 AMGalway Dublin and Louth Monaghan double header on Sunday to allow the extra days rest for teams that played yesterday?
Wishful thinking
What's the reason for not allowing an open draw at quarter-final stage?
Bit silly.
Sickener looking at that draw and what could have been. 2 of Louth Monaghan Cork and Mayo making a semi final.
Kerry getting an oddly familiar run as well! Hope the quarters this year are an improvement on last years damp squibs
Quote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 08:41:09 AMGalway v Dublin
Cork v Mayo
Tyrone v Kerry
Louth v Monaghan
Mayo, Cork, Louth and Monaghan all have a chance of making an AI semi final. Something that seemed so unlikely not so long ago.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 22, 2026, 12:58:58 AMThe key points from the Jim McGuinness after match interview and to me it sounds like he'll be around next year.
30% more intensity required under the rules he reckons. That increase has caused players to burn out in games and more injuries especially hamstring injuries. Hamstring surgeons around the county very busy now.
You can't really train in between games anymore it's more minding players.
The game now is chaos with no control.
Mcguiness is a great man for excuses after every defeat. Had donegal set up to beat kerry in league and that was it. His intensity far too much and had turned the lads into robots instead of players.
Playing Murphy every game instead of using him as an impact sub was another poor decision.
QuoteStory on semi finals?
Same again, open draw, avoid repeats
Quote from: highorlow on June 22, 2026, 08:49:35 AMQuoteStory on semi finals?
Same again, open draw, avoid repeats
At some point I think this will be changed. at this rate if Tyrone and Mayo both win they'll just award the win to Tyrone on head to head...
Quote from: Manning18 on June 22, 2026, 12:01:49 AMAs a Galway person I'd be in the unconvinced camp. We're being put forth by people and a casual media because everyone else has been blotting their copybooks and they need to find some alternative to Kerry. I don't think it's based on anything really bar "they've been making finals and they have a few lads back fit"
The team had a solid tactical identity when Cian O'Neill was there and has gone sharply downhill since he left. Every defence is struggling under these rules but Galway's has gone from probably the best in the country to being somewhat of a liability. Then you've the goalkeeper and kickout situation (on both ends). This was never good but has gone from poor to diabolical in the past 18 months.
They're living on individual brilliance. And that's not unexpected, there's some incredibly talented players there, and perhaps that alone can get them to win 3 big games. Comer especially is from what I've seen in limited stints, unmarkable under these new rules. It seems his max involvement will be 30 minutes however
If you get to a semi final stage and potentially have Thompsons vision back, with Comer inside and Walsh keeping his current form up, then yeah they can beat anyone. There's a bit too much to come together though to make it a likely outcome
Id especially worry about playing Kerry and the aforementioned Cian O'Neill on the opposite side. He knows every Galway players strengths and weakness better than anyone. Any given what his plans did to Armagh and Donegals kickouts on either end last year, id shudder to think of how he'll take apart Gleesons predictability from the tee, or Galway's limp press.
From the outside this definitely fits in with my sense of where Galway are. They could win it all if everything comes together but a hell of a lot would have to fall in place for them in the next 3 games.
I'd imagine they will be strong favourites against Dublin who despite getting the result yesterday played a world of bad football at points during the match and seemed very reliant on a few players.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 08:11:55 AMQuote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 08:09:34 AMThis freshness discussion is a look of waffle.
They have 6/7 days off to recover. Recovery starts straight after the game.
Here's an idea, maybe don't flog players for the previous 6 months.
It's not. You'll get basically 0 time to train for the next opponent, any sort of small niggle can leave lads not right for the next game, it definitely has an impact
How much more fitter can lads get within 6/7 days...after training for 4 evenings a week for 6 months?
Shiuld they not be focussing on recovery - sleep, nutrition, massages and ice baths etc.?
Then walking on walk throughs, kick outs and video analysis.
To me and I hear it all the time that another game the next week is just an excuse. Main coming from supporters in fairness.
As the great Tommy Walsh told the story of KK drawing with Galway in the AI hurling final in 2013. I think it was the Joe Canning equalising free one on the Hogan Stand side. The KK players came in with big sad and disappointed heads on them. It was like a morgue but Tommy pipes up we've to wait another 2 weeks for the replay. So what, lads have waited for years to play in an AI final and other lads have toiled for years and have never graced Croke Park. The KK players attitude shifted straight away to a more positive attitude.
Sorry guys but haven't time to read back thru 30 pages of messages so just giving a quick recap on Kerry v Armagh. It didn't go as I expected, Kerry blew us out of the water (Again) and were fully deserved winners. Armagh were awful form 1 -15 and got what they deserved, defence were shocking bad (how B McCambridge can't get on in that defence is shocking) Midfield is non existing and the forward line playing across the way back and forth whilst Kerry just take the ball and in 2 passes it's in the net or over the bar. I said last week if Kerry push up on Armagh and make them kick it long then they'd be in trouble and that's what Kerry done (Don't mention it Jack).
Anyway...all the best to Kerry for the remainder of the Championship and bar Galway I can't see anyone else beating them, one slight complaint is the stand in Killarney was brutal and so uncomfortable to sit on, the only one worse I can remember is Cusack Park, Mullingar.
Season is over for us but whoever you follow may the luck follow you to the end (except Tyrone, only joking my friendly neighbours)
Quote from: GTP on June 22, 2026, 08:14:10 AMThe punishment shouldn't be players risking injury due to fatigue.
I am sure the GPA will be able to produce a study to suit whatever narrative they want to push on the latest structure and scheduling.
Whats the point carrying a grant funded panel of 36 elite GAA athletes (their words) when you're gonna complain about having to play numbers 19-35
Quote from: highorlow on June 22, 2026, 08:49:35 AMQuoteStory on semi finals?
Same again, open draw, avoid repeats
Ah here, are you sure ?
QuoteQuote from: ElJeffe on June 22, 2026, 09:09:26 AMQuote from: highorlow on June 22, 2026, 08:49:35 AMQuoteStory on semi finals?
Same again, open draw, avoid repeats
Ah here, are you sure ?
Never sure with GAA stuff but I think I read it somewhere.
Anyhow our game v Cark is a practice run for our young lads and hopefully they'll make things competitive.
It's year 1 of Andy's plan. So semi final would be a bonus.
Quote from: GTP on June 22, 2026, 08:14:10 AMThe punishment shouldn't be players risking injury due to fatigue.
I am sure the GPA will be able to produce a study to suit whatever narrative they want to push on the latest structure and scheduling.
In association with Kellogg's Pop Tarts, the GPA's official post match recovery partner.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 08:48:20 AMSickener looking at that draw and what could have been. 2 of Louth Monaghan Cork and Mayo making a semi final.
Kerry getting an oddly familiar run as well! Hope the quarters this year are an improvement on last years damp squibs
I don't see what might have been, Kerry dismantled Armagh at the weekend. Will do the same to Tyrone next and don't see any of the rest doing any better.
I wonder do many gaa players contact the GPA during the year regarding issues/problems etc.?
It would be interesting to see. I'm of the opinion that it might be higher than people think.
They do actually do some good stuff round player welfare etc despite getting some bad press.
Quote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 09:40:12 AMI wonder do many gaa players contact the GPA during the year regarding issues/problems etc.?
It would be interesting to see. I'm of the opinion that it might be higher than people think.
Given that players from junior club teams innately pivot towards Omertà, I seriously doubt county players would ever risk speaking to a trade union during a season.
And even if they did, what would be the nature of these complaints?
The reason I asked abouyt the semi finals was the comment the RTE man made to The President saying that this draw would be his last draw as president.
So that suggested the semi-final pairings had been preset.
Quote from: Killala on June 22, 2026, 09:38:06 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 08:48:20 AMSickener looking at that draw and what could have been. 2 of Louth Monaghan Cork and Mayo making a semi final.
Kerry getting an oddly familiar run as well! Hope the quarters this year are an improvement on last years damp squibs
I don't see what might have been, Kerry dismantled Armagh at the weekend. Will do the same to Tyrone next and don't see any of the rest doing any better.
Ah yeah we probably would have ran into trouble against Kerry down the line anyway, but a quarter/semi final was very achievable.
I'd expect Tyrone to be a lot closer to Kerry than we were, the template is there for competing with them. Hopefully it's at least a contest.
They do surely. They also spout a load of complete waffle. For example, demanding to be at the heart of integration discussions.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 22, 2026, 09:48:05 AMQuote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 09:40:12 AMI wonder do many gaa players contact the GPA during the year regarding issues/problems etc.?
It would be interesting to see. I'm of the opinion that it might be higher than people think.
Given that players from junior club teams innately pivot towards Omertà, I seriously doubt county players would ever risk speaking to a trade union during a season.
And even if they did, what would be the nature of these complaints?
Was thinking more about issues like gambling etc. More private issues.
I know the GPA probably survey players about certain issues during the year.
As ImTommyGunn said, the GPA do get a bad press but they do some good work. I think inter-county players need a 'union'.
Quote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 08:41:09 AMGalway v Dublin
Cork v Mayo
Tyrone v Kerry
Louth v Monaghan
Should be wins for Galway,Mayo,Kerry,Monaghan
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 08:48:20 AMHope the quarters this year are an improvement on last years damp squibs
Hopefully and improvement on the majority of knockout games so far this year.
All Ireland final has come early. The plotting begins...and the praying..
Bar the odd blip every 20 years, Kerry always beat Tyrone.
At least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 22, 2026, 10:16:10 AMAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Not guaranteed at all.
Galway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 22, 2026, 10:16:10 AMAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Ehhh...how'd you work that one out then?
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 22, 2026, 10:39:59 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 22, 2026, 10:16:10 AMAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Ehhh...how'd you work that one out then?
Louth honorary Ulstermen?
Quote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 09:53:27 AMAs ImTommyGunn said, the GPA do get a bad press but they do some good work. I think inter-county players need a 'union'.
But that's what the GPA is?
It might be nothing but I saw two guys in Hazmat suits getting into a helicopter this morning outside Garvaghy. Then again I could have been dreaming
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 21, 2026, 11:49:42 PMIf Geezer stays in Armagh he needs to take the shackles off the team. At full flow their biggest strength is pace yet he wants it slowed down. Hasnt adapted well enough to the new game.
Lazy post. Armagh have played attacking football all year. Very little sideways nonsense and Geezer has them playing a direct running game. Yes, it can be tinkered with and improved. There are a number of reasons (excuses!) for Saturday's performance but no one is interested in that now. One of the main reasons in fairness was Kerry's excellent defence, some of it down to a predictability in the way we have attacked
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
An extra week to prepare for a draw that was made this morning?
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 22, 2026, 10:39:59 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 22, 2026, 10:16:10 AMAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Ehhh...how'd you work that one out then?
Louth honorary Ulstermen?
Part of the Ulster diesel smuggling cartel?
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 22, 2026, 10:46:36 AMIt might be nothing but I saw two guys in Hazmat suits getting into a helicopter this morning outside Garvaghy. Then again I could have been dreaming
It got them the right result the last time......
Dublin v Galway. Galway with the time to rest and recover and up against Dublin playing their 3rd game in 14 days plus extra time and probably without Con O'Callaghan should win by a few points to spare but knowing them it won't be straightforward so wouldn't rule out extra time before they prevail.
Cork v Mayo. What shape Mayo are in after games against Meath,Tyrone in consecutive weeks that went to the wire is the big question. Mayo I'd still give the slight edge if extra time Cork should win.
Kerry v Tyrone. Probably the game neither wanted. 3 games in 14 days isn't going to bother Kerry too much as they had strolls against Armagh and Kildare. Tyrone will surely defend a lot better than Armagh did? Would expect similar to the semi-finals last year with Kerry to win by 4 to 6 points.
Louth v Monaghan. Great to see one of these teams just two wins away from reaching the All-Ireland final. Has the potential to be the best of the 4 games. I think Monaghan should edge it, last two games not going to the wire a big bonus and have the recent experience of reaching the semi final.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2026, 11:07:52 AMDublin v Galway. Galway with the time to rest and recover and up against Dublin playing their 3rd game in 14 days plus extra time and probably without Con O'Callaghan should win by a few points to spare but knowing them it won't be straightforward so wouldn't rule out extra time before they prevail.
Cork v Mayo. What shape Mayo are in after games against Meath,Tyrone in consecutive weeks that went to the wire is the big question. Mayo I'd still give the slight edge if extra time Cork should win.
Kerry v Tyrone. Probably the game neither wanted. 3 games in 14 days isn't going to bother Kerry too much as they had strolls against Armagh and Kildare. Tyrone will surely defend a lot better than Armagh did? Would expect similar to the semi-finals last year with Kerry to win by 4 to 6 points.
Louth v Monaghan. Great to see one of these teams just two wins away from reaching the All-Ireland final. Has the potential to be the best of the 4 games. I think Monaghan should edge it, last two games not going to the wire a big bonus and have the recent experience of reaching the semi final.
I'd say Kerry happy enough. Another chance to put manners in Ulster opposition, and there is no one they enjoy beating more. Tyrone have beaten Kerry as underdogs all 4 times they won an All Ireland so here's hoping, wouldn't have a great deal of confidence though - Kerry to keep them at arms length
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 22, 2026, 10:09:56 AMBar the odd blip every 20 years, Kerry always beat Tyrone.
No doubt Jacqui Hurley will introduce this game like she did last year with a narrative like "Tyrone have the hex over Kerry", disregarding the fact that Kerry have won 5 of the last 6 Championship meetings.
A different narrative - when Kerry meet Armagh in Championship, the winner has won the All-Ireland 6 out of 7 times. The exception was 1982.
You have to hand it to Kerry.
Nothing won yet obviously but they produce more quality footballers than any other county.
Quote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 11:42:17 AMYou have to hand it to Kerry.
Nothing won yet obviously but they produce more quality footballers than any other county.
100% - they are never capable of dipping as low as everyone else when the cycles of good teams gets near the end. Will always be there. The lack of interest in hurling, rugby, soccer compared to the rest of Munster is incredible as well, football mad
QuoteQuoteQuoteAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Ehhh...how'd you work that one out then?
Louth honorary Ulstermen?
Louth was originally in the province of Ulster
Beggan injury update? Louth with real hope of All Ireland semi final if hes out. Their sub got a run out and made a decent save.
Con came off as well which is why Galway should see off the Dubs
Is Con O'Callaghan injured?
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 22, 2026, 12:22:39 PMIs Con O'Callaghan injured?
Yes looked like his hamstring again.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 22, 2026, 12:21:37 PMBeggan injury update?
Dead leg, sub made was a precaution. He'll play against Louth
QuoteQuoteYou have to hand it to Kerry.
Nothing won yet obviously but they produce more quality footballers than any other county.
100% - they are never capable of dipping as low as everyone else when the cycles of good teams gets near the end. Will always be there. The lack of interest in hurling, rugby, soccer compared to the rest of Munster is incredible as well, football mad
Been hearing for years that funding for hurling is needed in counties (mostly north of the Galway-Dublin line) to improve the standards and make more counties competitive.
Nothing about funding for Munster counties to improve the standard of football . Just seems to be accepted , ah Kerry are just too good , sure what would be the point?
Cork have their moments , but mostly it's a cakewalk every year.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 22, 2026, 11:58:37 AMQuote from: marty34 on June 22, 2026, 11:42:17 AMYou have to hand it to Kerry.
Nothing won yet obviously but they produce more quality footballers than any other county.
100% - they are never capable of dipping as low as everyone else when the cycles of good teams gets near the end. Will always be there. The lack of interest in hurling, rugby, soccer compared to the rest of Munster is incredible as well, football mad
1987 to 1995 just one All-Ireland semi-final appearances in 1991 and had to watch Cork clean up In Munster winning a few All-Irelands during that time they lost to Clare in a Munster final unthinkable nowadays.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2026, 08:43:43 AMGalway Dublin and Louth Monaghan double header on Sunday to allow the extra days rest for teams that played yesterday?
correct, 1.45 and 4.00 (dublin galway at 4)
other 2 double header on Sat 4.00 and 6.15 (Tyrone Kerry at 6.15)
All Ireland SFC QF details:
Saturday
1600 - Cork v Mayo - GAA+
1815 - Kerry v Tyrone - GAA+
Sunday
1345 - Louth v Monaghan - RTÉ
1600 - Dublin v Galway - RTÉ
Cork, Kerry, Monaghan, Galway for the wins
Cork had Tompkins and Fahy back then, made a massive difference to Cork.
Cork Tyrone Louth Dublin
Quote from: illdecide on June 22, 2026, 09:02:57 AMSorry guys but haven't time to read back thru 30 pages of messages so just giving a quick recap on Kerry v Armagh. It didn't go as I expected, Kerry blew us out of the water (Again) and were fully deserved winners. Armagh were awful form 1 -15 and got what they deserved, defence were shocking bad (how B McCambridge can't get on in that defence is shocking) Midfield is non existing and the forward line playing across the way back and forth whilst Kerry just take the ball and in 2 passes it's in the net or over the bar. I said last week if Kerry push up on Armagh and make them kick it long then they'd be in trouble and that's what Kerry done (Don't mention it Jack).
Anyway...all the best to Kerry for the remainder of the Championship and bar Galway I can't see anyone else beating them, one slight complaint is the stand in Killarney was brutal and so uncomfortable to sit on, the only one worse I can remember is Cusack Park, Mullingar.
Season is over for us but whoever you follow may the luck follow you to the end (except Tyrone, only joking my friendly neighbours)
Thought Armagh were competitive in the first half, perhaps even the better team. Some inexplicably bad shooting and then that calamitous goal led to the collapse. But disappointed they didn't put up more of a fight
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
Croke Park is the maximum allowable playing surface size wise. While there might be others the same size, a lot of them for want of a better phrase, are built in a bog. Croke Park surface plays very fast so in that sense, Croke Park is as big and as fast as they come.
You could argue best time to meet Kerry with a fast turnaround 3 weeks on the hop and Tyrone with a 2 week rest. Or you could argue Kingdom only warming up for Croker. I'd be leaning to the latter.
Best value bet?
Odds
Cork 5/4 Mayo 4/5
Kerry 3/10 Tyrone 3/1
Louth 11/10 Monaghan evens
Galway 4/6 Dublin 6/4
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 22, 2026, 04:50:35 PMCroke Park is the maximum allowable playing surface size wise. While there might be others the same size, a lot of them for want of a better phrase, are built in a bog. Croke Park surface plays very fast so in that sense, Croke Park is as big and as fast as they come.
You could argue best time to meet Kerry with a fast turnaround 3 weeks on the hop and Tyrone with a 2 week rest. Or you could argue Kingdom only warming up for Croker. I'd be leaning to the latter.
A quick google will tell you that's not right!
Quote from: cornerback on June 22, 2026, 05:07:48 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 22, 2026, 04:50:35 PMCroke Park is the maximum allowable playing surface size wise. While there might be others the same size, a lot of them for want of a better phrase, are built in a bog. Croke Park surface plays very fast so in that sense, Croke Park is as big and as fast as they come.
You could argue best time to meet Kerry with a fast turnaround 3 weeks on the hop and Tyrone with a 2 week rest. Or you could argue Kingdom only warming up for Croker. I'd be leaning to the latter.
A quick google will tell you that's not right!
I thought the talk last week was that Inniskeen was wider?
Quote from: David McKeown on June 22, 2026, 05:20:56 PMQuote from: cornerback on June 22, 2026, 05:07:48 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 22, 2026, 04:50:35 PMCroke Park is the maximum allowable playing surface size wise. While there might be others the same size, a lot of them for want of a better phrase, are built in a bog. Croke Park surface plays very fast so in that sense, Croke Park is as big and as fast as they come.
You could argue best time to meet Kerry with a fast turnaround 3 weeks on the hop and Tyrone with a 2 week rest. Or you could argue Kingdom only warming up for Croker. I'd be leaning to the latter.
A quick google will tell you that's not right!
I thought the talk last week was that Inniskeen was wider?
Max: 145 x 90m
Croke Park: 145 x 88m
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 22, 2026, 12:19:27 PMQuoteQuoteQuoteAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Ehhh...how'd you work that one out then?
Louth honorary Ulstermen?
Louth was originally in the province of Ulster
Aye Louth the 10th Ulster county
There is rain forecast for Saturday. Kerry support may be minimal. Cork fans will stay to cheer the red and white.
Tyrone need 3 goals or set a 2ptr record for their year so far.
Hope we can stay fit and give it a right go.
Armagh were at a low ebb on multiple fronts[missing men, tired and having to travel] so tough to know how much to read into it.
Quote from: cornerback on June 22, 2026, 05:24:01 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 22, 2026, 05:20:56 PMQuote from: cornerback on June 22, 2026, 05:07:48 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 22, 2026, 04:50:35 PMCroke Park is the maximum allowable playing surface size wise. While there might be others the same size, a lot of them for want of a better phrase, are built in a bog. Croke Park surface plays very fast so in that sense, Croke Park is as big and as fast as they come.
You could argue best time to meet Kerry with a fast turnaround 3 weeks on the hop and Tyrone with a 2 week rest. Or you could argue Kingdom only warming up for Croker. I'd be leaning to the latter.
A quick google will tell you that's not right!
I thought the talk last week was that Inniskeen was wider?
Max: 145 x 90m
Croke Park: 145 x 88m
Stand corrected. Think the maximum playing area is full size but they move the lines in a yard for whatever reason. Seriously doubt Healy Park is bigger though. Was there not a storm in a tea cup few years ago with visit of Dublin that they made it tighter again to curb Cluxton kickouts.
Anyway, a yard of sideline won't make much difference but the speed at which the surface plays at is a huge factor.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 22, 2026, 05:04:40 PMBest value bet?
Odds
Cork 5/4 Mayo 4/5
Kerry 3/10 Tyrone 3/1
Louth 11/10 Monaghan evens
Galway 4/6 Dublin 6/4
I think Louth then Dublin for value (but O'Callaghan needs to be fit).
All hard to call bar Kerry. TBH for that match I'd be looking at the handicap.
Of course Tyrone will fancy it and look to history but they will need a giant slice of luck. The year they won the AI they were full value for semi final win but Kerry were all over them 1st half but missed a load of scores and gave Tyrone a sniff of blood. Tyrone took their goals well while Kerry panicked with a lot of blind running with the ball.
Think this Kerry is a more mature outfit and this Tyrone maybe not as good.
I think short turnarounds will be a factor for teams where niggles are concerned.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 22, 2026, 05:26:42 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 22, 2026, 12:19:27 PMQuoteQuoteQuoteAt least we are guaranteed an Ulster Team in the semi finals.
Ehhh...how'd you work that one out then?
Louth honorary Ulstermen?
Louth was originally in the province of Ulster
Aye Louth the 10th Ulster county
"The failure of the Anglo-Normans to complete their conquest, especially of the north and west of Ireland, including most of Oirghialla, left Louth small and precarious, exposed to the depredations of the Gaelic Irish, while it also acted as a garrison and as a stepping-off point for English incursions further into Ulster (of which Louth was then a part). The Anglo-Normans established eleven 'Boroughs' across the county, several of them later becoming major, walled towns and thriving to this day."They must have broke away prior to the foundation of the GAA , as Louth have no Ulster titles to their name.
Who knows what Galway will turn up, definitely signs in the Westmeath match that they were improving.
14 of that 15 picks itself although seems crazy that McGrath who's for the last 2 years had become one of the best corner backs in the game has found himself out of favour.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Molloy come in and mark Kilkenny although I'd rather see Shane McGrath start.
"The GAA can confirm the following refereeing appointments for next weekend's All-Ireland SFC Quarter-Finals at Croke Park.
All-Ireland SFC Quarter-Finals
Saturday June 27
Cork v Mayo, Croke Park, 4pm, GAA+
Referee: Martin McNally (Monaghan)
Kerry v Tyrone, Croke Park, 6.15pm, GAA+
Referee: Paddy Neilan (Roscommon)
Sunday June 28
Louth v Monaghan, Croke Park, 1.45pm, RTE
Referee: Seán Hurson (Tyrone)
Dublin v Galway, Croke Park, 4pm, RTE
Referee: David Gough (Meath)"
Quote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Tyrone have pretty much got a free dig at Kerry, if they're brave they've a chance. Kerry rightly getting credit for hammering us but I really knew it was over at HT. Sick saying that you'll win nothing without a bit of a luck.
Galway have been my pick for Sam from the start of the year, but definitely capable of shitting the nest. Dublin looked very good v Donegal, they'll not lack confidence, but it's Galway's year.
Really dunno about Louth v Monaghan, its got draw & ET written all over it, could be pens.
Fancy Cork, Mayo always look inexperienced eventho they're probably no greener than rest.
Jarlath burns saying it was his last draw. Does that mean there's no draw for the semifinals? Is the draw already set for that?
Quote from: bennydorano on June 22, 2026, 07:39:42 PMTyrone have pretty much got a free dig at Kerry, if they're brave they've a chance. Kerry rightly getting credit for hammering us but I really knew it was over at HT. Sick saying that you'll win nothing without a bit of a luck.
Galway have been my pick for Sam from the start of the year, but definitely capable of shitting the nest. Dublin looked very good v Donegal, they'll not lack confidence, but it's Galway's year.
Really dunno about Louth v Monaghan, its got draw & ET written all over it, could be pens.
Fancy Cork, Mayo always look inexperienced eventho they're probably no greener than rest.
Tyrone have a chance if Kilpatrick, Kennedy, Morgan and McKernan keep their bangers, lead the team and allow younger players to find their feet. It's easy though to get a sense that at least one of them will lose the plot.
Mayo are far from inexperienced. About 10 of their match day squad next week will have played in an AI final, and another 10 or so will have 5 seasons of playing mostly D1 football. Indeed they could pretty much line out with the starting team from their National League final win in 2023. That surely puts them a street or two ahead of Cork when it comes to big match experience.
Quote from: lenny on June 22, 2026, 07:48:07 PMJarlath burns saying it was his last draw. Does that mean there's no draw for the semifinals? Is the draw already set for that?
That would be sensible but I think theres another draw to go.
Imagine the excitement for Louth/Monaghan support if they were sure they would get winner of Cork/Mayo for example.
From T.O.
All-Ireland Semi-Finals
The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Finals based
on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where
possible
Quote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 06:56:46 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Appreciate the change in this Monaghan team and a fresh intake over the last few years - but still think they rely a little too much on a number of older heads. Fantsatic to see Jack Mc Carron over the last few weeks but its a big ask for him to do that repeateldly week after week with little break between games. Any team shutting down Mc Carron - not easy - potentially takes 7-8 points off Monaghan's typical tally.
Quote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 08:32:52 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 06:56:46 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Appreciate the change in this Monaghan team and a fresh intake over the last few years - but still think they rely a little too much on a number of older heads. Fantsatic to see Jack Mc Carron over the last few weeks but its a big ask for him to do that repeateldly week after week with little break between games. Any team shutting down Mc Carron - not easy - potentially takes 7-8 points off Monaghan's typical tally.
McCarron scored 0-0 against Cavan and Derry it was just the side line so 0-2
In the Ulster Final 0-3
He accounted for 5.88% of their scores in Ulster.....
So maybe do some fact checking research before posting.
In AI Series it's 25% of the scores but for the whole championship it's 15.15%.
Very sad news coming out of Galway today.
Paul Clancy has passed away at the age of just 49.
Quality player and an absolute gentleman.
Brother in law of the late Don Connellan.
RIP PC
Quote from: galwayman on June 22, 2026, 09:00:43 PMVery sad news coming out of Galway today.
Paul Clancy has passed away at the age of just 49.
Quality player and an absolute gentleman.
Brother in law of the late Don Connellan.
RIP PC
Heartbreaking stuff. Huge part in Moycullens rise from intermediate football to one of the best clubs in the country, after his playing days. And what a classy footballer he was aswel, and a gent as you say. RIP
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 22, 2026, 08:53:23 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 08:32:52 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 06:56:46 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Appreciate the change in this Monaghan team and a fresh intake over the last few years - but still think they rely a little too much on a number of older heads. Fantsatic to see Jack Mc Carron over the last few weeks but its a big ask for him to do that repeateldly week after week with little break between games. Any team shutting down Mc Carron - not easy - potentially takes 7-8 points off Monaghan's typical tally.
McCarron scored 0-0 against Cavan and Derry it was just the side line so 0-2
In the Ulster Final 0-3
He accounted for 5.88% of their scores in Ulster.....
So maybe do some fact checking research before posting.
In AI Series it's 25% of the scores but for the whole championship it's 15.15%.
McCarron's still a young man by Monaghan standards, a mere garsún at 32. Today's game is made for him as he doesn't have to track back (he's a lazy looking fécker) and the 2 point score, pity that McManus's time had come before the new rules. The issues with Jack were with injury recovery. He was used sparingly this year until the last 2 or 3 games. He's still only finding his feet this season and moving with relative ease. Other than Jack, Ryan Wylie is 32 and then one or two lads at 30.
Quote from: Main Street on June 22, 2026, 09:37:06 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on June 22, 2026, 08:53:23 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 08:32:52 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 06:56:46 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Appreciate the change in this Monaghan team and a fresh intake over the last few years - but still think they rely a little too much on a number of older heads. Fantsatic to see Jack Mc Carron over the last few weeks but its a big ask for him to do that repeateldly week after week with little break between games. Any team shutting down Mc Carron - not easy - potentially takes 7-8 points off Monaghan's typical tally.
McCarron scored 0-0 against Cavan and Derry it was just the side line so 0-2
In the Ulster Final 0-3
He accounted for 5.88% of their scores in Ulster.....
So maybe do some fact checking research before posting.
In AI Series it's 25% of the scores but for the whole championship it's 15.15%.
McCarron's still a young man by Monaghan standards, a mere garsún at 32. Today's game is made for him as he doesn't have to track back (he's a lazy looking fécker) and the 2 point score, pity that McManus's time had come before the new rules. The issues with Jack were with injury recovery. He was used sparingly this year until the last 2 or 3 games. He's still only finding his feet this season and moving with relative ease. Other than Jack, Ryan Wylie is 32 and then one or two lads at 30.
What age is McCarthy?
Some serious ballers on that Monaghan team, O'Hanlon a super lad as well. Beggan at the minute is like a cheat code to the point where teams need to be extremely cautious of any tackling within the 65.
I thought a commentator said on the last game that he was thirty or was turning it at least. Him, McCarron, began, Ryan Wyie and maybe lavelle older end of the team but you would imagine beggan the elder statesman. Most of those ones would have a few years.
Quote from: galwayman on June 22, 2026, 09:00:43 PMVery sad news coming out of Galway today.
Paul Clancy has passed away at the age of just 49.
Quality player and an absolute gentleman.
Brother in law of the late Don Connellan.
RIP PC
Ah no.
May he R.I.P.
Quote from: illdecide on June 22, 2026, 09:02:57 AMSorry guys but haven't time to read back thru 30 pages of messages so just giving a quick recap on Kerry v Armagh. It didn't go as I expected, Kerry blew us out of the water (Again) and were fully deserved winners. Armagh were awful form 1 -15 and got what they deserved, defence were shocking bad (how B McCambridge can't get on in that defence is shocking) Midfield is non existing and the forward line playing across the way back and forth whilst Kerry just take the ball and in 2 passes it's in the net or over the bar. I said last week if Kerry push up on Armagh and make them kick it long then they'd be in trouble and that's what Kerry done (Don't mention it Jack).
Anyway...all the best to Kerry for the remainder of the Championship and bar Galway I can't see anyone else beating them, one slight complaint is the stand in Killarney was brutal and so uncomfortable to sit on, the only one worse I can remember is Cusack Park, Mullingar.
Season is over for us but whoever you follow may the luck follow you to the end (except Tyrone, only joking my friendly neighbours)
Fair dues, Armagh could make a lot of excuses- injuries, 6 day turnaround, 300 mile journey, a calamitous goal, but they didn't give excuses.
It was similar to last year, Armagh started better but Kerry had a 14 point net gain in 15 minutes to end the game. Last year it put Kerry 9 up after being 5 down, this year it put Kerry 15 up after being 1 up.
McGeeney turned a Div 3 team who had won 1 game in Ulster in 3 years, to win the All-Ireland, after previously captaining Armagh to their first All-Ireland. Regardless of what he decides to do, his statue is guaranteed!
QuoteQuoteSorry guys but haven't time to read back thru 30 pages of messages so just giving a quick recap on Kerry v Armagh. It didn't go as I expected, Kerry blew us out of the water (Again) and were fully deserved winners. Armagh were awful form 1 -15 and got what they deserved, defence were shocking bad (how B McCambridge can't get on in that defence is shocking) Midfield is non existing and the forward line playing across the way back and forth whilst Kerry just take the ball and in 2 passes it's in the net or over the bar. I said last week if Kerry push up on Armagh and make them kick it long then they'd be in trouble and that's what Kerry done (Don't mention it Jack).
Anyway...all the best to Kerry for the remainder of the Championship and bar Galway I can't see anyone else beating them, one slight complaint is the stand in Killarney was brutal and so uncomfortable to sit on, the only one worse I can remember is Cusack Park, Mullingar.
Season is over for us but whoever you follow may the luck follow you to the end (except Tyrone, only joking my friendly neighbours)
Fair dues, Armagh could make a lot of excuses- injuries, 6 day turnaround, 300 mile journey, a calamitous goal, but they didn't give excuses.
It was similar to last year, Armagh started better but Kerry had a 14 point net gain in 15 minutes to end the game. Last year it put Kerry 9 up after being 5 down, this year it put Kerry 15 up after being 1 up.
McGeeney turned a Div 3 team who had won 1 game in Ulster in 3 years, to win the All-Ireland, after previously captaining Armagh to their first All-Ireland. Regardless of what he decides to do, his statue is guaranteed!
Statue or status?
Quote from: galwayman on June 22, 2026, 09:00:43 PMVery sad news coming out of Galway today.
Paul Clancy has passed away at the age of just 49.
Quality player and an absolute gentleman.
Brother in law of the late Don Connellan.
RIP PC
That's terribly sad news - fantastic footballer and the one occasion I got to chat to him he was an absolute gentleman. RIP
Quote from: galwayman on June 22, 2026, 09:00:43 PMVery sad news coming out of Galway today.
Paul Clancy has passed away at the age of just 49.
Quality player and an absolute gentleman.
Brother in law of the late Don Connellan.
RIP PC
Terribly sad news indeed. A wonderful footballer and a real driving force within the Moycullen club.
Ar dheis de go raibh a anam
That is indeed sad, young man at 49.
He was some footballer in his day.
RIP.
Quote from: galwayman on June 22, 2026, 09:00:43 PMVery sad news coming out of Galway today.
Paul Clancy has passed away at the age of just 49.
Quality player and an absolute gentleman.
Brother in law of the late Don Connellan.
RIP PC
How awful! :(
Brilliant classy player.
Way too young.
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 22, 2026, 08:53:23 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 08:32:52 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 06:56:46 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Appreciate the change in this Monaghan team and a fresh intake over the last few years - but still think they rely a little too much on a number of older heads. Fantsatic to see Jack Mc Carron over the last few weeks but its a big ask for him to do that repeateldly week after week with little break between games. Any team shutting down Mc Carron - not easy - potentially takes 7-8 points off Monaghan's typical tally.
McCarron scored 0-0 against Cavan and Derry it was just the side line so 0-2
In the Ulster Final 0-3
He accounted for 5.88% of their scores in Ulster.....
So maybe do some fact checking research before posting.
In AI Series it's 25% of the scores but for the whole championship it's 15.15%.
Jack Mc Carron has 0-5, 0-7 and 1-5 in his last 3 games - i.e. the three games in this competition.
I think Jack Mc Carron is 34 or will be this year?
25% scores from one of Monaghan's oldest players will be noted elsewhere.
No disrespect to Jack Mc Carron or Monaghan on that - I'll be cheering them on over the weekend.
A dire Dublin team in the last 8 says a lot about the overall quality of Sam this year.
If they can get past Galway they will win it, and that's on your county.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 23, 2026, 01:56:06 PMA dire Dublin team in the last 8 says a lot about the overall quality of Sam this year.
If they can get past Galway they will win it, and that's on your county.
Says alot about the format whereby Dublin Lost to Westmeath in the Leinster final and back door game to Louth. Past formats you would be out instead of in the last 8.
That Dublin team aren't going win the All-Ireland if they get past Galway.
Quote from: MC on June 23, 2026, 01:03:01 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on June 22, 2026, 08:53:23 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 08:32:52 PMQuote from: Schkite on June 22, 2026, 06:56:46 PMQuote from: MC on June 22, 2026, 03:15:59 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2026, 10:33:12 AMGalway v Dublin - ask me last week and I'd have said Galway. Now I'm not so sure. Dublin have their issues, but they showed up against Donegal and were by far the better side - only for some shocking shooting they would have won by 8+ in normal time. Galway building nicely, key players all fit(ish) for once, capable of winning the whole thing imo. This should be a brilliant game.
Cork v Mayo - probably the draw they both would have wanted. I think Cork will shade it, I don't think either are realistic AI contenders. I saw Mayo first hand against Tyrone - didn't think either of the two were great. Mayo's bench isn't great and their defence are shaky at best. Good keeper though. Cork have been improving - but only time I've seen them live this year was in the league against Derry and they were awful. Only the league, and they did get promotion - close game.
Tyrone v Kerry - can't see past Kerry here. The Tyrone defence will be stretched too thin to cope in the wide open Croke park space (I assume all quarters are in croker?). They also don't have the same calibre of forward that Kerry does, though who does. Sean O'Shea coming back to fitness too is huge. This could be a tanking as I don't buy into the Tyrone coming good thinking. The Tyrone v Mayo game was not a great game, the introduction of Darren McCurry who scored 6 points on the tight Omagh pitch was the difference in the 2 teams and even at that, a fortuitous last minute free gifted Tyrone the win. Kerry brushed Armagh aside quite easily - armagh are bigger and more of a running team than Tyrone are so I'm struggling to see anything but a similar result. However, Tyrone v Kerry can take on a life of its own, so who knows.
Louth v Monaghan - brilliant draw for both of them. Monaghan just have that never say die attitude that you can't coach into a team. I had actually expected Westmeath to beat them, but Monaghan fully deserved their win. Louth have been excellent this year and Mulroy is one of the best footballers in the country. They're well coached and playing in croker will likely suit them. Really struggle to call this one, but I'll go for Louth as they've had an extra week to prepare and rest.
Galway v Dublin - Galway may benefit from Dublin fatigue with a weeks less recovery and extra time on top. Injuries and niggles will also have an impact - Dublin may be hampered in this regard whereas Galway seem to be more injury free than they have been for a long time.
Cork v Mayo - again the weeks extra recovery may tell - but Mayo possibly have better forwards and might prevail if they can restirct Cork's 2 point shooters.
Tyrone - v Kerry - hard to see anything but a Kerry win unless MOR starts living up to his reputation a bit more.
However, the wide open spaces of Croke Park are a myth - Tyrone's home pitch is the same size as Croke Park as are a lot of pitches throughout the country - and about half a dozen are actually larger. If anything, I wonder if Croke Park feels tighter with the high stands - especially when it's a full house.
Armagh's running game wasn't as focused last weekend and I wonder if it can actually leave teams exposed in the turnovers - Kerry scored a few goals on the break with a defence largely missing and exposed.
Louth v Monaghan - probably the hardest to call - but agree the weeks extra recovery - and Monaghan relying on quite a few older players - may be enough of an advantage for some strong Louth men.
I swear this thing about Monaghan being an aging team and overly reliant on aul lads, has been a thing being brought up for like 15 years now...
I actually think the current age profile of the Monaghan squad is as healthy and balanced as it's been for a long long time. We don't have any lads in the panel in their late 30s who are hanging on and playing key roles, which was often the case over the years. Right now it's a nice mix in the squad of young lads bursting through, those in the mid to late 20s who have been around a while and now becoming leaders, and a handful of lads in the early 30s who have tons of experience but still plenty more to give too in most cases. In different games over the past few weeks, we've had big performances from players in all 3 of those categories which has got us to this point.
Appreciate the change in this Monaghan team and a fresh intake over the last few years - but still think they rely a little too much on a number of older heads. Fantsatic to see Jack Mc Carron over the last few weeks but its a big ask for him to do that repeateldly week after week with little break between games. Any team shutting down Mc Carron - not easy - potentially takes 7-8 points off Monaghan's typical tally.
McCarron scored 0-0 against Cavan and Derry it was just the side line so 0-2
In the Ulster Final 0-3
He accounted for 5.88% of their scores in Ulster.....
So maybe do some fact checking research before posting.
In AI Series it's 25% of the scores but for the whole championship it's 15.15%.
Jack Mc Carron has 0-5, 0-7 and 1-5 in his last 3 games - i.e. the three games in this competition.
I think Jack Mc Carron is 34 or will be this year?
25% scores from one of Monaghan's oldest players will be noted elsewhere.
No disrespect to Jack Mc Carron or Monaghan on that - I'll be cheering them on over the weekend.
McCarron said after the Westmeath game that he was the oldest player on the Monaghan panel aged 33.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 23, 2026, 01:56:06 PMA dire Dublin team in the last 8 says a lot about the overall quality of Sam this year.
If they can get past Galway they will win it, and that's on your county.
They're a serious team when at the races, looking at score beo there and number 9-15 would be household names with a rake of all Irelands albeit 1-8 would be lesser known. Plenty of talent there and on their day a serious team. Every chance though they don't show up this weekend and Galway tank them.
Down, Cork and Dublin beating Dongeal, Donegal tanking Kerry, Armagh tanking Down, Kerry tanking Armagh, Westmeaths run, Louth losing to Dublin then beating them and then Armagh, it's a mad old year. Roscommon looking like All Ireland contenders against Galway then losing to Tyrone and going out with a whimper against Monaghan. Absolutely mad old year and nothing would really surprise me at this point. As the saying goes it's an open All Ireland but Kerry usually win those ones!
A lot of pundits has compared this year to 2010.
In 2010 defending All-Ireland champions Kerry was knocked out at the Quarter-final stage by Ulster opposition (Down who went on to reach the All-Ireland final) it's Possible Tyrone could repeat that this year.
2010 winner Cork had reached and lost previous All-Ireland finals. Galway the best comparison to them in 2026?
1957 Cork, Galway, Louth and Tyrone were the semi finalists.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2026, 03:13:11 PMA lot of pundits has compared this year to 2010.
In 2010 defending All-Ireland champions Kerry was knocked out at the Quarter-final stage by Ulster opposition (Down who went on to reach the All-Ireland final) it's Possible Tyrone could repeat that this year.
2010 winner Cork had reached and lost previous All-Ireland finals. Galway the best comparison to them in 2026?
I'm not sure 2010 is an apt comparison.
Ahead of the quarter final that year I was unusually confident in Down v Kerry as Galvin was in decline, O'Sullivan was hobbling, Kenelly and Walsh had gone to Oz and we'd developed a full back capable of marking Donaghy. Or in other words they were never going to blow Down away.
Kerry are pretty much at the same quotient this year as last. If they still have the hunger, then they would still have the same lead on the pack as they did last season.
Who was the full back? Was that Dan Gordon?
Quote from: thewobbler on June 23, 2026, 03:53:50 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2026, 03:13:11 PMA lot of pundits has compared this year to 2010.
In 2010 defending All-Ireland champions Kerry was knocked out at the Quarter-final stage by Ulster opposition (Down who went on to reach the All-Ireland final) it's Possible Tyrone could repeat that this year.
2010 winner Cork had reached and lost previous All-Ireland finals. Galway the best comparison to them in 2026?
I'm not sure 2010 is an apt comparison.
Ahead of the quarter final that year I was unusually confident in Down v Kerry as Galvin was in decline, O'Sullivan was hobbling, Kenelly and Walsh had gone to Oz and we'd developed a full back capable of marking Donaghy. Or in other words they were never going to blow Down away.
Kerry are pretty much at the same quotient this year as last. If they still have the hunger, then they would still have the same lead on the pack as they did last season.
Not sure if they've that much of a lead on Galway, probably match up relatively well although you'd worry about Galways (anyones) full back line if the Cliffords and Geaneys are on form. They've got the tools to hurt Kerry though and the big brutes to maybe break even in midfield. Would probably be the best spectacle for a final.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 23, 2026, 03:53:50 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2026, 03:13:11 PMA lot of pundits has compared this year to 2010.
In 2010 defending All-Ireland champions Kerry was knocked out at the Quarter-final stage by Ulster opposition (Down who went on to reach the All-Ireland final) it's Possible Tyrone could repeat that this year.
2010 winner Cork had reached and lost previous All-Ireland finals. Galway the best comparison to them in 2026?
I'm not sure 2010 is an apt comparison.
Ahead of the quarter final that year I was unusually confident in Down v Kerry as Galvin was in decline, O'Sullivan was hobbling, Kenelly and Walsh had gone to Oz and we'd developed a full back capable of marking Donaghy. Or in other words they were never going to blow Down away.
Kerry are pretty much at the same quotient this year as last. If they still have the hunger, then they would still have the same lead on the pack as they did last season.
Kerry were injury ravaged going into that 2010 game v Down, Tomas O'Se suspended too, Down did what they had to do but overall that was a piss poor championship
Current PaddyPower Odds
Kerry 4/7
Galway 5/1
Dublin 10/1
Mayo 12/1
Tyrone 14/1
Cork 18/1
Monaghan 20/1
Louth 20/1
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 16, 2026, 12:22:18 PMCurrent PaddyPower Odds
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 4/1
Galway 9/2
Armagh 11/2
Tyrone 12/1
Cork 18/1
Mayo 20/1
Louth 20/1
Meath 20/1
Monaghan 25/1
Dublin 25/1
Westmeath 40/1
Galway/Tyrone/Cork/Louth odds all obviously affected by already being in the quarter-finals (so only having to win 3 games to win Sam verus the other 8 having to win 4 games.
Interesting to see the changes in the odds from before and after the weekend.
Looks like some Dubs getting excited about the win at the weekend.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 23, 2026, 03:45:49 PM1957 Cork, Galway, Louth and Tyrone were the semi finalists.
1985 semis were Kerry, Monaghan , Mayo and Dublin
Both went to replays too
Quote from: thewobbler on June 23, 2026, 03:53:50 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2026, 03:13:11 PMA lot of pundits has compared this year to 2010.
In 2010 defending All-Ireland champions Kerry was knocked out at the Quarter-final stage by Ulster opposition (Down who went on to reach the All-Ireland final) it's Possible Tyrone could repeat that this year.
2010 winner Cork had reached and lost previous All-Ireland finals. Galway the best comparison to them in 2026?
I'm not sure 2010 is an apt comparison.
Ahead of the quarter final that year I was unusually confident in Down v Kerry as Galvin was in decline, O'Sullivan was hobbling, Kenelly and Walsh had gone to Oz and we'd developed a full back capable of marking Donaghy. Or in other words they were never going to blow Down away.
Kerry are pretty much at the same quotient this year as last. If they still have the hunger, then they would still have the same lead on the pack as they did last season.
Can't see that being an issue. In Kerry terms this team has probably underachieved especially considering the huge underage pedigree now in their prime. And an All Ireland in Kerry is nothing special compared to a back to back. They'll want this bad enough especially manager, probably last chance at a back to back for Jack.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 23, 2026, 06:20:59 PMCurrent PaddyPower Odds
Kerry 4/7
Galway 5/1
Dublin 10/1
Mayo 12/1
Tyrone 14/1
Cork 18/1
Monaghan 20/1
Louth 20/1
Interesting to see the changes in the odds from before and after the weekend.
Looks like some Dubs getting excited about the win at the weekend.
Seems decent odds on Cork especially as they cannot draw Kerry in semi.
I would imagine if Kerry win Sam this year you will hear talk of them planning it the night of winning Sam last year, due to the significance of it. This team could do 3-5 in a row
Nobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
Can't see past Kerry. Galway are a decent side, (not their fault) but they have not had a serious challenge in the Championship this year.
Teams that peaked to early this year
Donegal winning the League
Meath winning Division 2
Armagh winning Ulster
Roscommon winning Connacht
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
David Clifford getting injured is the only thing that might lead to you having to consume millinery production.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 23, 2026, 08:09:47 PMTeams that peaked to early this year
Donegal winning the League
Meath winning Division 2
Armagh winning Ulster
Roscommon winning Connacht
Not even sure if we did peak at all this year- even in the Ulster final we let Monaghan right back into it, Tyrone took us to extra time as well our only full good performance was Down which wasn't a contest after about 20 minutes. Derry was solid and job done without being wonderful. Louth and obviously Kerry were woeful for large parts.
Kerry can lay down a real marker against Tyrone on Saturday. Tyrone have the many U-20's coming through, often beating Kerry in that grade and it's fair to say a Tyrone All-Ireland is likely within 5-7 years.
But Kerry can make a statement and remind the present & future Tyrone side who is the boss. If Kerry are up by 10 at half-time, Jack O'Connor will be pushing his side to win by 20.
If Armagh or Donegal had any sense, they'd do what Tyrone did, and get knocked out early, and lie in the long grass.
There is ZERO advantage to winning your provincial. Armagh had 7 games in 11 weeks.. Tyrone had 3..
Quote from: 5times5times on June 23, 2026, 09:54:20 PMIf Armagh or Donegal had any sense, they'd do what Tyrone did, and get knocked out early, and lie in the long grass.
There is ZERO advantage to winning your provincial. Armagh had 7 games in 11 weeks.. Tyrone had 3..
And should Tyrone get tanked at the weekend, there'll be people queuing up to tell us that they weren't sharp enough or battle hardened enough due to a lack of football.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 23, 2026, 08:59:30 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 23, 2026, 08:09:47 PMTeams that peaked to early this year
Donegal winning the League
Meath winning Division 2
Armagh winning Ulster
Roscommon winning Connacht
Not even sure if we did peak at all this year- even in the Ulster final we let Monaghan right back into it, Tyrone took us to extra time as well our only full good performance was Down which wasn't a contest after about 20 minutes. Derry was solid and job done without being wonderful. Louth and obviously Kerry were woeful for large parts.
Donegal the same, won the league but had less than convincing performances such as a draw v Galway and defeat to Roscommon.
Was no pre plans for Louth,Mayo,Tyrone etc to exit their provincial championships so soon. Nearly all of last 8 teams had a flat performance on route and f
A few will likely do so at the weekend and peaking too early shouldn't be used as excuse.
Quote from: 5times5times on June 23, 2026, 09:54:20 PMIf Armagh or Donegal had any sense, they'd do what Tyrone did, and get knocked out early, and lie in the long grass.
There is ZERO advantage to winning your provincial. Armagh had 7 games in 11 weeks.. Tyrone had 3..
Donegal did get knocked out early.
There's the small advantage of winning the second most prestigious trophy in gaa....
Quote from: 5times5times on June 23, 2026, 09:54:20 PMIf Armagh or Donegal had any sense, they'd do what Tyrone did, and get knocked out early, and lie in the long grass.
There is ZERO advantage to winning your provincial. Armagh had 7 games in 11 weeks.. Tyrone had 3..
It's an interesting one alright. Depends how much a team wants to win a provincial and how realistic it would be for them to win an AI - the Ulster could be their best bet at silverware. Ulster would have been high on Armagh's radar this year while trying to juggle doing well in the AI. It does seem strange to see a team win only 2 games and be in a quarter final.
Tyrone v Kerry be a tight enough game due to Kerrys 6 day turnaround, they keep O'Shea, White bck to the 2nd half, O'Sullivan not there yet is a loss, Gkeeper not as good as the other lad, midfield option of the bench limited saying they start 4 midfielders. They dont have alot of options off the bench up front. Where D Moniyhan go to.
Goin to buy juvenile and adult tickets for Saturday, will the release better seats during the week or should u just take what's on offer now?
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2026, 08:44:49 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
David Clifford getting injured is the only thing that might lead to you having to consume millinery production.
Even without Clifford , they will win it
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 23, 2026, 08:09:47 PMTeams that peaked to early this year
Donegal winning the League
Meath winning Division 2
Armagh winning Ulster
Roscommon winning Connacht
Peaking too early had f**k all to do with Armagh's demise. A series of self inflicted mistakes cost us extremely dearly, fatigue at a stretch contributed but I'm not convinced by that argument.
Donegal definitely looked like a Summer fit team throughout the league, Roscommon maybe as well. No idea why you've added Meath in there.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
Not in the one sitting
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Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 23, 2026, 01:56:06 PMA dire Dublin team in the last 8 says a lot about the overall quality of Sam this year.
If they can get past Galway they will win it, and that's on your county.
Every chance ye beat us at the weekend.
Zero chance that Dublin team beats Kerry though imo
Everyone is writing Mayo off this year.
Likely our "loser" mentality from past AI failures.
Given Andy's and his backroom teams relatively recent experience and knowledge of Croker, our fairly well drilled forwards, a better goalkeeper than past visits and moreover our added aggression and never say die attitude in must win games this year I fancy our chances to go the whole way and beat Tyrone in the final.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 23, 2026, 07:50:06 PMCan't see past Kerry. Galway are a decent side, (not their fault) but they have not had a serious challenge in the Championship this year.
Roscommon in the Connacht championship?
Would like to see Galway go all the well, very gracious supporters around me in 2024 and they have some quality players in Walsh, Conroy, Finnerty, Comer. Being able to get all their best players out should give them a chance. I would expect a Galway Kerry final if they avoid eachother.
Is there talk of Matthew Thompson being available for the latter stages?
Quote from: highorlow on June 23, 2026, 11:56:48 PMEveryone is writing Mayo off this year.
Likely our "loser" mentality from past AI failures.
Given Andy's and his backroom teams relatively recent experience and knowledge of Croker, our fairly well drilled forwards, a better goalkeeper than past visits and moreover our added aggression and never say die attitude in must win games this year I fancy our chances to go the whole way and beat Tyrone in the final.
I agree that you are being written off but for slightly different reasons than most are talking about for me at least.
A few points from the game in Omagh stand out to me in particular.
Midfield, was dominated by Tyrone. The year we beat you in AI Final you had Ruane who was in serious form but still wasn't enough, I don't think you have the midfielders to compete especially in Croke Park.
Goalkeeper, Morgan is adding to us out the field where Livingstone seems an excellent find but is a more traditional keeper.
Talismans, we have our couple and to be honest they are somewhat known quantities some days they are on fire others they are average. Mercurial is the term I believe.. Yours is likely Kobe and I think it says a lot where both management and fans thoughts are when they are relying on an 18 year old lad to take the game by the scruff and win it.
Lastly Management
When Tyrone needed change they brought on McCurry and ultimately it probably led to the victory as it wasn't Jordans day. Mayo brought on a soon to be 36 year old Aidan O'Shea which may well have worked if you were 5-6 points up with 10 to go in order to manage a lead or see a game out. Not when Tyrone were clearly in the ascendency.
Overall I do think Tyrone have it in them to get to an All Ireland Final even with what's in front of them this weekend. Mayo I don't think are there at the moment and I think it says a lot that I'd love to meet them there...
Quote from: Main Street on June 23, 2026, 11:08:04 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
Not in the one sitting
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That looks very sickly. I think I could manage a straw one easier
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 24, 2026, 08:34:38 AMQuote from: highorlow on June 23, 2026, 11:56:48 PMEveryone is writing Mayo off this year.
Likely our "loser" mentality from past AI failures.
Given Andy's and his backroom teams relatively recent experience and knowledge of Croker, our fairly well drilled forwards, a better goalkeeper than past visits and moreover our added aggression and never say die attitude in must win games this year I fancy our chances to go the whole way and beat Tyrone in the final.
I agree that you are being written off but for slightly different reasons than most are talking about for me at least.
A few points from the game in Omagh stand out to me in particular.
Midfield, was dominated by Tyrone. The year we beat you in AI Final you had Ruane who was in serious form but still wasn't enough, I don't think you have the midfielders to compete especially in Croke Park.
Goalkeeper, Morgan is adding to us out the field where Livingstone seems an excellent find but is a more traditional keeper.
Talismans, we have our couple and to be honest they are somewhat known quantities some days they are on fire others they are average. Mercurial is the term I believe.. Yours is likely Kobe and I think it says a lot where both management and fans thoughts are when they are relying on an 18 year old lad to take the game by the scruff and win it.
Lastly Management
When Tyrone needed change they brought on McCurry and ultimately it probably led to the victory as it wasn't Jordans day. Mayo brought on a soon to be 36 year old Aidan O'Shea which may well have worked if you were 5-6 points up with 10 to go in order to manage a lead or see a game out. Not when Tyrone were clearly in the ascendency.
Overall I do think Tyrone have it in them to get to an All Ireland Final even with what's in front of them this weekend. Mayo I don't think are there at the moment and I think it says a lot that I'd love to meet them there...
And after all that it still took a 2 pointer in the last few minutes to us to win it. . .
You could probably count on one hand the amount of times Morgan has been out the field in the championship but his kickouts have been getting better as the season progresses.
I think Tyrone and Mayo are probably much of a muchness really. Losing Kobe next season is a huge blow to them though.
Mayo are always a banana skin for Tyrone. We only just beat roscommon so belief they could do it was inbuilt. Only a bad call by Andy taking Aidy on coupled with v poor goal taking cost them.
Note he didnt make same mistake against Meath & they were helped by Red card.
It really all comes down to Kerry and if the 3 games in a row helps Tyrone or not.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 24, 2026, 01:03:48 PMMayo are always a banana skin for Tyrone. We only just beat roscommon so belief they could do it was inbuilt. Only a bad call by Andy taking Aidy on coupled with v poor goal taking cost them.
Note he didnt make same mistake against Meath & they were helped by Red card.
It really all comes down to Kerry and if the 3 games in a row helps Tyrone or not.
Kerry might be safe enough from the fatigue of 3 weeks in a row as both were over as contests fairly early, it might even help them as they got minutes into lads coming back from injury.
Well yeah...kerry are managing it with aplomb. They have self confidence in their ability to let key men rest, shane ryan has not played one minute of ball in 2026 so be interesting to see how Murphy handles big pressure game in Croker
Complacency could be an issue for Kerry and best hope for Tyrone, they won't lose any sleep if they watch back on Tyrone's three championship performances against Armagh,Roscommon and Mayo a repeat of any of those performances will get Tyrone beaten by at least 6 points.
All the former Kerry players and journalists was writing obituaries on them prior to the All-Ireland Quarter-Final last year the same bucks are now basically saying who will Kerry face in the All-Ireland final.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 24, 2026, 01:11:41 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 24, 2026, 01:03:48 PMMayo are always a banana skin for Tyrone. We only just beat roscommon so belief they could do it was inbuilt. Only a bad call by Andy taking Aidy on coupled with v poor goal taking cost them.
Note he didnt make same mistake against Meath & they were helped by Red card.
It really all comes down to Kerry and if the 3 games in a row helps Tyrone or not.
Kerry might be safe enough from the fatigue of 3 weeks in a row as both were over as contests fairly early, it might even help them as they got minutes into lads coming back from injury.
Training sessions they were
If Tyrone have one good dig in them it needs to come Saturday
Are the semi finals pre-determined or is that another draw?
Second year in a row Tyrone will have the benefit of learning from Armagh's mistakes against Kerry! They need to take on and nail a few 2 pointers and force Kerry out of their comfort zone. Armagh were faffing around the arc without taking the shot on and Kerry just sat in and waited to pounce. Could also benefit from getting Ricey in for a training session.
Quote from: tiempo on June 24, 2026, 05:04:56 PMAre the semi finals pre-determined or is that another draw?
As per Irish Examiner.
QuoteAll-Ireland semi-final draw if required will take place on RTÉ after Galway-Dublin on Sunday. If Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan win, a draw is not required. Mayo would face the winners of Dublin and Galway and Tyrone would meet Monaghan
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 24, 2026, 05:48:35 PMQuote from: tiempo on June 24, 2026, 05:04:56 PMAre the semi finals pre-determined or is that another draw?
As per Irish Examiner.
QuoteAll-Ireland semi-final draw if required will take place on RTÉ after Galway-Dublin on Sunday. If Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan win, a draw is not required. Mayo would face the winners of Dublin and Galway and Tyrone would meet Monaghan
I'd say that Tyrone would be happy enough with meeting Monaghan, if they have just beaten Kerry.
Quote from: Armamike on June 24, 2026, 05:44:31 PMSecond year in a row Tyrone will have the benefit of learning from Armagh's mistakes against Kerry! They need to take on and nail a few 2 pointers and force Kerry out of their comfort zone. Armagh were faffing around the arc without taking the shot on and Kerry just sat in and waited to pounce. Could also benefit from getting Ricey in for a training session.
Just have to go at them hard. Don't let them play football. Drag them down. Hit them. Just make it a dogfight and they won't like it. Sledge them, do whatever they can
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 24, 2026, 07:48:43 PMQuote from: Armamike on June 24, 2026, 05:44:31 PMSecond year in a row Tyrone will have the benefit of learning from Armagh's mistakes against Kerry! They need to take on and nail a few 2 pointers and force Kerry out of their comfort zone. Armagh were faffing around the arc without taking the shot on and Kerry just sat in and waited to pounce. Could also benefit from getting Ricey in for a training session.
Just have to go at them hard. Don't let them play football. Drag them down. Hit them. Just make it a dogfight and they won't like it. Sledge them, do whatever they can
They'll be quaking in their boots.
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 24, 2026, 07:48:43 PMQuote from: Armamike on June 24, 2026, 05:44:31 PMSecond year in a row Tyrone will have the benefit of learning from Armagh's mistakes against Kerry! They need to take on and nail a few 2 pointers and force Kerry out of their comfort zone. Armagh were faffing around the arc without taking the shot on and Kerry just sat in and waited to pounce. Could also benefit from getting Ricey in for a training session.
Just have to go at them hard. Don't let them play football. Drag them down. Hit them. Just make it a dogfight and they won't like it. Sledge them, do whatever they can
Dick Clerkin said basically the same on the Indo podcast. Bring the bit of dirt - upset their rhythm. Upset them mentally and physically. Sometimes you have to drag a good team down a level. ;) ;)
Kerry have 120 years experience of using dirt, hitting etc.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 10:49:13 PMQuote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2026, 08:44:49 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
David Clifford getting injured is the only thing that might lead to you having to consume millinery production.
Even without Clifford , they will win it
Not at all guaranteed. He elevates them from decent to very difficult to beat. His scoring returns are disporportionate to the rest of the forwards.
Quote from: mouview on June 24, 2026, 08:25:42 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 10:49:13 PMQuote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2026, 08:44:49 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
David Clifford getting injured is the only thing that might lead to you having to consume millinery production.
Even without Clifford , they will win it
Not at all guaranteed. He elevates them from decent to very difficult to beat. His scoring returns are disporportionate to the rest of the forwards.
The best way of stopping them might be to crowdsource Clifford a once-in-a-lifetime trip to Tahiti or someplace.
Quote from: mouview on June 24, 2026, 08:25:42 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 10:49:13 PMQuote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2026, 08:44:49 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 23, 2026, 06:59:35 PMNobody will get within 6 points of Kerry from here.
If Kerry don't win Sam this year , I'll buy a hat and eat it.
David Clifford getting injured is the only thing that might lead to you having to consume millinery production.
Even without Clifford , they will win it
Not at all guaranteed. He elevates them from decent to very difficult to beat. His scoring returns are disporportionate to the rest of the forwards.
He's a class act but don't think he necessarily needs to be in the game for Kerry to thrive, just be on the pitch. If opposition focus too much on him it opens the door elsewhere. Last year's AI final first half was a good example. Donegal were worried about stopping Clifford but Kerry destroyed them on the left side.
One big downside is Kerry will have got the wakeup call from Burns red against Donegal, but a yellow can be as useful against one of big men in middle.
Tyrone get typecast as the villain and frankly should embrace it to wind up the faithful.
Maybe one of the backroom team needs to take one for the team.
Maybe a flasher / pitch invader using the cover of Gaza protests can accidentally collide with someone.
Hows the CCTV coverage in Croker dressing rooms? been a while since Ive been in them
There's a lot of bluff and bluster about midfield, great forwards, tactical nuances, at the end of the day it's 15 men (plus subs) against 15, Croker is for hard men, Tyrone have that Kerry don't, that's the (simplistic) reason I'll edge Tyrone.
Kerry are soft as f**k when it's put up to them.?
I thought we lost that edge and went "soft" which we had in fairness, but our boys are back.
Do Tyrone have many hard men?
Quote from: Armamike on June 25, 2026, 12:14:49 AMDo Tyrone have many hard men?
as my Da used to say, they have plenty hard to listen to.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2026, 07:58:37 PMQuote from: ElJeffe on June 24, 2026, 07:48:43 PMQuote from: Armamike on June 24, 2026, 05:44:31 PMSecond year in a row Tyrone will have the benefit of learning from Armagh's mistakes against Kerry! They need to take on and nail a few 2 pointers and force Kerry out of their comfort zone. Armagh were faffing around the arc without taking the shot on and Kerry just sat in and waited to pounce. Could also benefit from getting Ricey in for a training session.
Just have to go at them hard. Don't let them play football. Drag them down. Hit them. Just make it a dogfight and they won't like it. Sledge them, do whatever they can
Dick Clerkin said basically the same on the Indo podcast. Bring the bit of dirt - upset their rhythm. Upset them mentally and physically. Sometimes you have to drag a good team down a level. ;) ;)
Yeah it's what we failed to do. One of the many disappointments was not even a booking for our lads! Didn't lay a glove on them.
Donegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
they need to shut down the supply to DC. Do that and theyre half way there
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
Kerry were 4 or 5 players short for both games. If Murphy was sent off in the league final the game would have been completely different. Burns red card changed the game Kilarney.
Tyrone could beat Kerry for many reasons but I really don't see this Kerry team as soft.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 11:58:35 AMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
they need to shut down the supply to DC. Do that and theyre half way there
Armagh did that to an extent (first half) , but two or three long kick passes and Kerry got 1-2 or 1-3. Whereas Armagh piddled about with the ball and had to work so hard for their single point scores
Armagh kicked no 2 pointers nor hoofed it in to FF, and Kerry easily got their defensive screen in position. Tyrone need to mix it up , to have any chance.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 25, 2026, 12:13:38 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 11:58:35 AMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
they need to shut down the supply to DC. Do that and theyre half way there
Armagh did that to an extent (first half) , but two or three long kick passes and Kerry got 1-2 or 1-3. Whereas Armagh piddled about with the ball and had to work so hard for their single point scores
Armagh kicked no 2 pointers nor hoofed it in to FF, and Kerry easily got their defensive screen in position. Tyrone need to mix it up , to have any chance.
agreed. thats the other part of what they need to do. Easier said than done though. I imagine they will be watching a lot of video of the armagh attack/defence in the lead up
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 25, 2026, 12:13:38 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 11:58:35 AMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
they need to shut down the supply to DC. Do that and theyre half way there
Armagh did that to an extent (first half) , but two or three long kick passes and Kerry got 1-2 or 1-3. Whereas Armagh piddled about with the ball and had to work so hard for their single point scores
Armagh kicked no 2 pointers nor hoofed it in to FF, and Kerry easily got their defensive screen in position. Tyrone need to mix it up , to have any chance.
agreed. thats the other part of what they need to do. Easier said than done though. I imagine they will be watching a lot of video of the armagh attack/defence in the lead up
Thow kennedy in ff throughout the game. Tyrone have done this befor but never actually bothers to kick the high ball into him. Need to launch in a few. Put Kennedy in around the D, have him break it down into the larger d area to an oncoming Darragh/Darren/Ethan it would create a bit of chaos for Kerry
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
this x 1000 as going down to 13 or 14 men really works in the modern game. And to further cement your point, Kerry are out and Donegal are still standing, right?
What Donegal did show is you can beat Kerry missing 8 odd starters and down a man in a non-knockout game. But if Tyrone do start slapping them it should work
Quote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:47 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
this x 1000 as going down to 13 or 14 men really works in the modern game. And to further cement your point, Kerry are out and Donegal are still standing, right?
What Donegal did show is you can beat Kerry missing 8 odd starters and down a man in a non-knockout game. But if Tyrone do start slapping them it should work
I'm sure he doesn't mean literally, but you definitely need to get aggressive and physical with them, Armagh let Geaney and Clifford dance round them without laying a glove. That'll get you nowhere.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 25, 2026, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:47 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
this x 1000 as going down to 13 or 14 men really works in the modern game. And to further cement your point, Kerry are out and Donegal are still standing, right?
What Donegal did show is you can beat Kerry missing 8 odd starters and down a man in a non-knockout game. But if Tyrone do start slapping them it should work
I'm sure he doesn't mean literally, but you definitely need to get aggressive and physical with them, Armagh let Geaney and Clifford dance round them without laying a glove. That'll get you nowhere.
There is nothing in championship history to suggest that Kerry will lay down against a physical approach.
The only way to beat them is to make fewer mistakes overall, and to be relentless when you have the momentum.
This is hard to do. It doesn't happen very often against Kerry. But it's a much better strategy than thinking you can rough up a team of physical specimens.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:09 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 25, 2026, 12:13:38 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 11:58:35 AMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
they need to shut down the supply to DC. Do that and theyre half way there
Armagh did that to an extent (first half) , but two or three long kick passes and Kerry got 1-2 or 1-3. Whereas Armagh piddled about with the ball and had to work so hard for their single point scores
Armagh kicked no 2 pointers nor hoofed it in to FF, and Kerry easily got their defensive screen in position. Tyrone need to mix it up , to have any chance.
agreed. thats the other part of what they need to do. Easier said than done though. I imagine they will be watching a lot of video of the armagh attack/defence in the lead up
Thow kennedy in ff throughout the game. Tyrone have done this befor but never actually bothers to kick the high ball into him. Need to launch in a few. Put Kennedy in around the D, have him break it down into the larger d area to an oncoming Darragh/Darren/Ethan it would create a bit of chaos for Kerry
Not sure if I understand this properly.
Are you saying that we aren't good enough so we should try kicking in 50/50 balls and rely on lucky breaks ?
Quote from: thewobbler on June 25, 2026, 02:44:24 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 25, 2026, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:47 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
this x 1000 as going down to 13 or 14 men really works in the modern game. And to further cement your point, Kerry are out and Donegal are still standing, right?
What Donegal did show is you can beat Kerry missing 8 odd starters and down a man in a non-knockout game. But if Tyrone do start slapping them it should work
I'm sure he doesn't mean literally, but you definitely need to get aggressive and physical with them, Armagh let Geaney and Clifford dance round them without laying a glove. That'll get you nowhere.
There is nothing in championship history to suggest that Kerry will lay down against a physical approach.
The only way to beat them is to make fewer mistakes overall, and to be relentless when you have the momentum.
This is hard to do. It doesn't happen very often against Kerry. But it's a much better strategy than thinking you can rough up a team of physical specimens.
Tyrone kicked the shite out of them in the noughties, but yeah you're going to need to match them for. physicality and aggression , while also making little or no mistakes- no cheap possession given away and little or no easy chances missed.
Quote from: In hiding on June 25, 2026, 02:57:34 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:09 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 25, 2026, 12:13:38 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 25, 2026, 11:58:35 AMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
they need to shut down the supply to DC. Do that and theyre half way there
Armagh did that to an extent (first half) , but two or three long kick passes and Kerry got 1-2 or 1-3. Whereas Armagh piddled about with the ball and had to work so hard for their single point scores
Armagh kicked no 2 pointers nor hoofed it in to FF, and Kerry easily got their defensive screen in position. Tyrone need to mix it up , to have any chance.
agreed. thats the other part of what they need to do. Easier said than done though. I imagine they will be watching a lot of video of the armagh attack/defence in the lead up
Thow kennedy in ff throughout the game. Tyrone have done this befor but never actually bothers to kick the high ball into him. Need to launch in a few. Put Kennedy in around the D, have him break it down into the larger d area to an oncoming Darragh/Darren/Ethan it would create a bit of chaos for Kerry
Not sure if I understand this properly.
Are you saying that we aren't good enough so we should try kicking in 50/50 balls and rely on lucky breaks ?
Maybe the odd one to test out the fullback line/keeper but I'd definitely try to avoid losing the ball needlessly as 2 or 3 kicks and you'll have conceded a 2 pointer
The Kennedy floating FF approach has never worked in any real way in the big games.
Would prefer Conn hanging around centre half area driving in and having a lash at goal or laying off
Quote from: thewobbler on June 25, 2026, 02:44:24 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 25, 2026, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:47 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
this x 1000 as going down to 13 or 14 men really works in the modern game. And to further cement your point, Kerry are out and Donegal are still standing, right?
What Donegal did show is you can beat Kerry missing 8 odd starters and down a man in a non-knockout game. But if Tyrone do start slapping them it should work
I'm sure he doesn't mean literally, but you definitely need to get aggressive and physical with them, Armagh let Geaney and Clifford dance round them without laying a glove. That'll get you nowhere.
There is nothing in championship history to suggest that Kerry will lay down against a physical approach.
The only way to beat them is to make fewer mistakes overall, and to be relentless when you have the momentum.
This is hard to do. It doesn't happen very often against Kerry. But it's a much better strategy than thinking you can rough up a team of physical specimens.
This current Tyrone don't tend to rough teams up (much). If they try this against Kerry it will be out of character. Kerry are no softies - the likes of the Cliffords can handle themselves.
Estimated Attendance for the double headers according to Croke Park
Saturday 50,000
Sunday 70,000
Tyrone have some of the bite back, blocking working and look hungry.
Just hope they can stay in touch , minimise mistakes and express themselves who knows.
Some of Donegals mistakes were horrific, basic errors.
2 more sleeps
I see the draw (if required) will be Sunday after the live match.
They can do it on a Sunday with a fortnight gap and the venue already known, but couldn't when there were only a week gap between fixtures and venues not decided.
Further good news for whoever makes the Final - Daithi Ó Sè to replace gobdaw Cahill on "Up for tge match"
Con O'Callaghan named on the published Dublin team, I doubt he'll start but it looks like Ger Brennan will keep Galway guessing.
Kerry with unchanged team. Burns back on the bench and back from suspension.
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Beggan named to start but will he be fit enough to take long ranges frees and 45s?
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Dublin subs
Subs:
Hugh O'Sullivan, Tom Lahiff, Liam Smith, Greg McEneaney, Cian Murphy, Seán Guiden, Josh Bannon, Ross McGarry, Alex Gavin, Seán Bugler, Tim Deering
Other teams
GALWAY:
Connor Gleeson; Jack Glynn, Cian Hernon, Liam Silke; Dylan McHugh, John Daly, Sean Kelly; Paul Conroy, John Maher; Cein Darcy, Shane McGrath, Cillian McDaid; Robert Finnerty, Matthew Tierney, Shane Walsh.
Subs:
Conor Flaherty, Brian Cogger, Séan Mulkerrin, Johnny McGrath, Kieran Molloy, Fionn McDonagh, Daniel Ó Flaherty, Finnian Ó Laoi, Jack Mullen, Damien Comer, Liam Ó Conghaile
CORK: Patrick Doyle; Maurice Shanley, Daniel O'Mahony, Seán Meehan; Brian O'Driscoll, Tommy Walsh, Luke Fahy; Ian Maguire, Colm O'Callaghan; Paul Walsh, Dara Sheedy, Seán McDonnell; Mark Cronin, Chris Óg Jones, Steven Sherlock.
Subs: Micheál Aodh Martin, Jacob O'Driscoll, Seán Brady, Rory Maguire, Seán Walsh, David Buckley, Conor Cahalane, Eoghan McSweeney, Ruairi Deane, Conor Corbett, Brian Hurley.
MAYO: Jack Livingstone; Jack Coyne, Donnacha McHugh, Eoin McGreal; Sam Callinan, David McBrien, Enda Hession; Bob Touhy, Jack Carney; Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Jordan Flynn; Darragh Beirne, Ryan O'Donoghue, Kobe McDonald.
Subs: Rob Hennelly, Diarmuid Duffy, John McMonagle, Rory Brickenden, Conal Dawson, Aidan O'Shea, Matthew Ruane, Paul Towey, Fergal Boland, Tommy Conroy, Cian McHale.
TYRONE:
Niall Morgan; Cormac Quinn, Peter Teague, Joey Clarke; Michael McKernan, Niall Devlin, Kieran McGeary; Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick; Seanie O'Donnell, Ronan Cassidy, Ciaran Daly; Eoin McElholm, Mattie Donnelly, Ethan Jordan.
Subs:
Oisin O'Kane, Michael Rafferty, Aidan Clarke, Frank Burns, Ben Cullen, Ruairi McHugh, Oisin McCann, Conor O'Neill, Ciaran Bogue, Lorcan McGarrity, Darren McCurry.
LOUTH:
Niall Mc Donnell; Emmet Carolan, Donal McKenny, Daire Nally; Conal McKeever, Dara McDonnell, Craig Lennon; Paul Matthews, Sean Callaghan; James Maguire, Sam Mulroy, Conor Grimes; Kieran McArdle, Ciaran Downey, Ryan Burns.
Subs:
Tiarnan Markey, Ciaran Byrne, Tommy Durnin, Conor Early, Leonard Grey, Ciaran Keenan, Conall McCaul, Conor Mac Criosta Tadgh Mcdonnell, Padric Tinnelly, Anthony Williams.
Dublin must be really afraid of Galway's forwards. Looks like they are going to park the bus
Atrocious team sheet by Dubs. No subs listed ffs. Guessing its influenced by the ground game
Quote from: Armamike on June 25, 2026, 05:32:41 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 25, 2026, 02:44:24 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 25, 2026, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2026, 02:31:47 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 25, 2026, 11:52:31 AMDonegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armaghs mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth.
this x 1000 as going down to 13 or 14 men really works in the modern game. And to further cement your point, Kerry are out and Donegal are still standing, right?
What Donegal did show is you can beat Kerry missing 8 odd starters and down a man in a non-knockout game. But if Tyrone do start slapping them it should work
I'm sure he doesn't mean literally, but you definitely need to get aggressive and physical with them, Armagh let Geaney and Clifford dance round them without laying a glove. That'll get you nowhere.
There is nothing in championship history to suggest that Kerry will lay down against a physical approach.
The only way to beat them is to make fewer mistakes overall, and to be relentless when you have the momentum.
This is hard to do. It doesn't happen very often against Kerry. But it's a much better strategy than thinking you can rough up a team of physical specimens.
This current Tyrone don't tend to rough teams up (much). If they try this against Kerry it will be out of character. Kerry are no softies - the likes of the Cliffords can handle themselves.
I don't know about that re David Clifford, he does get overly emotional eg when celebrating his scores, he evidently overreacts to a wind up. I'd say grab him by the balls and make some appropriate comment re his manhood. But Tyrone players have undergone a lengthy painful collective exorcism in order to expel their embedded demonic dark arts.
Clifford and O'Connor near 6ft 4in. Nobody gonna bully them, outside of the 2 midfielders, this is a small Tyrone team, bullying could be the other way round!
Cameras everywhere now. Morgan clattered DC with his knee once by accident.
I would get ODonnell, Clarke and McElholm to run at the Big 4 early to try and draw a yellow. Joe O Connor/ Marc O Se especially.
OConnor is master at dispossessing so high risk
Kerry are substantially more physically imposing than Tyrone. This "hit them a few digs and they will wilt" stuff is serious copium.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 26, 2026, 12:54:35 AMCameras everywhere now. Morgan clattered DC with his knee once by accident.
I would get ODonnell, Clarke and McElholm to run at the Big 4 early to try and draw a yellow. Joe O Connor/ Marc O Se especially.
OConnor is master at dispossessing so high risk
I'd say if Tyrone do that to big Joe the outcome will be McElholm on his arse and the ball in the hands of a Geaney or a Clifford within about 0.5 seconds.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 26, 2026, 08:07:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 26, 2026, 12:54:35 AMCameras everywhere now. Morgan clattered DC with his knee once by accident.
I would get ODonnell, Clarke and McElholm to run at the Big 4 early to try and draw a yellow. Joe O Connor/ Marc O Se especially.
OConnor is master at dispossessing so high risk
I'd say if Tyrone do that to big Joe the outcome will be McElholm on his arse and the ball in the hands of a Geaney or a Clifford within about 0.5 seconds.
Not sure what people are watching but Tyrone don't typically do that. We'll keep possession, slow things down and give it to the shooters like Armagh did. I haven't seen us play with much pace all year
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 26, 2026, 08:40:37 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 26, 2026, 08:07:55 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 26, 2026, 12:54:35 AMCameras everywhere now. Morgan clattered DC with his knee once by accident.
I would get ODonnell, Clarke and McElholm to run at the Big 4 early to try and draw a yellow. Joe O Connor/ Marc O Se especially.
OConnor is master at dispossessing so high risk
I'd say if Tyrone do that to big Joe the outcome will be McElholm on his arse and the ball in the hands of a Geaney or a Clifford within about 0.5 seconds.
Not sure what people are watching but Tyrone don't typically do that. We'll keep possession, slow things down and give it to the shooters like Armagh did. I haven't seen us play with much pace all year
It's your best chance. Unlike us you need to be clinical and not give away sloppy possession as Kerry will tear you a new one. At least you have 2 midfielders that'll have half a chance of mixing it with their big boys as well.
Will need everything going to plan though.
Quote from: Keane on June 26, 2026, 07:37:31 AMKerry are substantially more physically imposing than Tyrone. This "hit them a few digs and they will wilt" stuff is serious copium.
It would be mental tactics from Tyrone to go down that road. We actually played very well last year in the semi final. There was a 15 minute spell in the 2nd half where Kerry pulled away and were 10 up at one point. We will see similar to last year from Tyrone and hope that we do it slightly better and Kerry don't be quite on it as they were.
Tyrone are 5/1 in the bookies. A bit long maybe.
Louth have drifted out to 6/4 which is a surprise, I'd have had them as slight favourites.
Beggan named to start but the word on the street is he may not play or if he does he won't be hitting 60 metre bombs.
As regards Tyrone physically bullying Kerry, not going to happen given the size and power differential in the teams. Agree it will be the other way around if anything- it is is how Kerry have accounted for Tyrone in recent games. In fact, Tyrone have never 'bullied' Kerry in any of their classic encounters- 2003 was a tactical innovation to win, and they simply outplayed Kerry in 2005 and 2008.
Don't buy into the narrative that Kerry somehow need protection from these big bad teams.
Quote from: square_ball on June 26, 2026, 08:49:45 AMQuote from: Keane on June 26, 2026, 07:37:31 AMKerry are substantially more physically imposing than Tyrone. This "hit them a few digs and they will wilt" stuff is serious copium.
It would be mental tactics from Tyrone to go down that road. We actually played very well last year in the semi final. There was a 15 minute spell in the 2nd half where Kerry pulled away and were 10 up at one point. We will see similar to last year from Tyrone and hope that we do it slightly better and Kerry don't be quite on it as they were.
Tyrone are 5/1 in the bookies. A bit long maybe.
A bit like the Armagh game last week (at least per my memory) Tyrone started well and were well on top in the kickout stakes. Gradually Kerry began to assert themselves and led at HT. A few minutes of the second half Tyrone stayed in touch but Kerry stretched away and kept them at arm's length thereafter.
You have to question what happened in that second half spell when Kerry put the game to bed and figure out how to avoid a spell like that again. Are Kerry (tactically or otherwise) a bit like the great Dublin team where they would often be no more than a few points ahead at HT but for whatever reason teams can't match them in the second half? Or is there a weakness there to exploit? Certainly Tyrone were well in the game for the first half.
I don't see the current Tyrone crop as dirty in any shape or form. When they won the semi-final in 2021 we had nothing to complain about (wingnut conspiracy theories aside) it was just a game we were out-footballed in.
Last year I think both teams missed goal chances. If Kerry do so again and Tyrone snaffle a few the game will be there for the taking, I don't give them much of a chance if they don't raise 2+ green flags. Caveat that there's a non-trivial possibility of Kerry being significantly off it due to the quick turnaround. We basically never saw that from Dublin when they had their great team, Kerry's consistency is substantially more questionable at this stage.
Quote from: Angus MacGyver on June 26, 2026, 09:16:05 AMLouth have drifted out to 6/4 which is a surprise, I'd have had them as slight favourites.
Beggan named to start but the word on the street is he may not play or if he does he won't be hitting 60 metre bombs.
As regards Tyrone physically bullying Kerry, not going to happen given the size and power differential in the teams. Agree it will be the other way around if anything- it is is how Kerry have accounted for Tyrone in recent games. In fact, Tyrone have never 'bullied' Kerry in any of their classic encounters- 2003 was a tactical innovation to win, and they simply outplayed Kerry in 2005 and 2008.
Don't buy into the narrative that Kerry somehow need protection from these big bad teams.
Would have Monaghan as very slight favourites but the 3 weeks on the trot is tough going for Monaghan. The Beggan factor is key and if he's not playing or restricted thats a huge blow. 3 tight games at the weekend (if all teams turn up and play close to their best- you don't know what you're going to get with Cork, Mayo or Dublin)
Tyrone have a punchers chance but very hard to look past Kerry.
Rewatched the semi final last night for first time since actually being at it. We actually had the perfect first half bar taking our opportunities.
Absolutely cleaned Kerry out in midfield and they had an off day themselves, their goal just before half time was the killer.
McCurry just didn't have the shooting boots on and DC didn't get on much ball at all.
Kerry are outrageous favourites tomorrow but if we can get our efficiency up around 70% and kerry have a rare odd day then we might have the smallest chance. Tyrone will always bring that confidence and even thought Kerry have beat us well the last two times we met our lads will fully believe they can win.
Quote from: TyroneTam on June 26, 2026, 09:23:15 AMRewatched the semi final last night for first time since actually being at it. We actually had the perfect first half bar taking our opportunities.
Absolutely cleaned Kerry out in midfield and they had an off day themselves, their goal just before half time was the killer.
McCurry just didn't have the shooting boots on and DC didn't get on much ball at all.
Kerry are outrageous favourites tomorrow but if we can get our efficiency up around 70% and kerry have a rare odd day then we might have the smallest chance. Tyrone will always bring that confidence and even thought Kerry have beat us well the last two times we met our lads will fully believe they can win.
sounds familiar!
Quote from: Keane on June 26, 2026, 09:20:01 AMA bit like the Armagh game last week (at least per my memory) Tyrone started well and were well on top in the kickout stakes. Gradually Kerry began to assert themselves and led at HT. A few minutes of the second half Tyrone stayed in touch but Kerry stretched away and kept them at arm's length thereafter.
Playing Kerry under these rules can be ,a bit like the guy that jumped off the cliff and half way down felt that he was doing fine. All of a sudden, you have a few two pointers or goals in a row and the game is gone. With Clifford rampant such things are quite probable.
Yep thats why they remind me of the Dubs. You can put it up to them and compete for 50mins then they seem to turn it on.
Its just quality and chemistry of that group, esp the forward unit and its running.
Quote from: square_ball on June 26, 2026, 08:49:45 AMQuote from: Keane on June 26, 2026, 07:37:31 AMKerry are substantially more physically imposing than Tyrone. This "hit them a few digs and they will wilt" stuff is serious copium.
It would be mental tactics from Tyrone to go down that road. We actually played very well last year in the semi final. There was a 15 minute spell in the 2nd half where Kerry pulled away and were 10 up at one point. We will see similar to last year from Tyrone and hope that we do it slightly better and Kerry don't be quite on it as they were.
Tyrone are 5/1 in the bookies. A bit long maybe.
11/2 on Paddy Power. Has to be the biggest price for a championship game in 30/40 years?? I don't think Tyrone were as long as that in 2018 AI Final they had no chance of winning v peak Dublin
Quote from: armaghniac on June 26, 2026, 10:10:10 AMQuote from: Keane on June 26, 2026, 09:20:01 AMA bit like the Armagh game last week (at least per my memory) Tyrone started well and were well on top in the kickout stakes. Gradually Kerry began to assert themselves and led at HT. A few minutes of the second half Tyrone stayed in touch but Kerry stretched away and kept them at arm's length thereafter.
Playing Kerry under these rules can be ,a bit like the guy that jumped off the cliff and half way down felt that he was doing fine. All of a sudden, you have a few two pointers or goals in a row and the game is gone. With Clifford rampant such things are quite probable.
It does feel as if the rules have been rigged in their favour.
It may take years for other teams to adjust and find ways to compete and catch up with Kerry's headstart.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 26, 2026, 11:52:11 AMQuote from: armaghniac on June 26, 2026, 10:10:10 AMQuote from: Keane on June 26, 2026, 09:20:01 AMA bit like the Armagh game last week (at least per my memory) Tyrone started well and were well on top in the kickout stakes. Gradually Kerry began to assert themselves and led at HT. A few minutes of the second half Tyrone stayed in touch but Kerry stretched away and kept them at arm's length thereafter.
Playing Kerry under these rules can be ,a bit like the guy that jumped off the cliff and half way down felt that he was doing fine. All of a sudden, you have a few two pointers or goals in a row and the game is gone. With Clifford rampant such things are quite probable.
It does feel as if the rules have been rigged in their favour.
It may take years for other teams to adjust and find ways to compete and catch up with Kerry's headstart.
The opposite way to look at it is Kerry have embraced the new rules and yes they have the players to exploit it but other teams, Donegal for one but there is others, spend their time trying to control the game and take the game back to where it was before the rule changes.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 26, 2026, 09:29:48 AMQuote from: TyroneTam on June 26, 2026, 09:23:15 AMRewatched the semi final last night for first time since actually being at it. We actually had the perfect first half bar taking our opportunities.
Absolutely cleaned Kerry out in midfield and they had an off day themselves, their goal just before half time was the killer.
McCurry just didn't have the shooting boots on and DC didn't get on much ball at all.
Kerry are outrageous favourites tomorrow but if we can get our efficiency up around 70% and kerry have a rare odd day then we might have the smallest chance. Tyrone will always bring that confidence and even thought Kerry have beat us well the last two times we met our lads will fully believe they can win.
sounds familiar!
Kerry can be beat, other teams just need to have a real cut at it and take their opportunities. This is the big unknown for us as well have the potential to turn it on on any given day, whether we do or not will be clear around 7pm on Saturday.
Tyrone team named. No changes.
1 Niall Morgan
2 Cormac Quinn 3 Peter Teague 4 Joey Clarke
5 Michael McKernan 6 Niall Devlin 7 Kieran McGeary
8 Brian Kennedy 9 Conn Kilpatrick
10 Seanie O'Donnell 11 Ronan Cassidy 12 Daly
13 McElholm 14 Mattie 15 Ethan Jordan
Bench :17 Rafferty 19 Burns 21 McHugh 23 Conor O'Neill
16 Oisin O'Kane 18 Aidan Clarke 20 Ben Cullen
22 Oisin McCann 24 Ciaran Bogue 25 Lorcan McGarrity 26 Darren McCurry
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 26, 2026, 12:26:54 PMTyrone team named. No changes.
1 Niall Morgan
2 Cormac Quinn
3 Peter Teague
4 Joey Clarke
5 Michael McKernan
6 Niall Devlin
7 Kieran McGeary
8 Brian Kennedy
9 Conn Kilpatrick
10 Seanie O'Donnell
11 Ronan Cassidy
12 Ciaran Daly
13 Eoin McElholm
14 Matthew Donnelly
15 Ethan Jordan
17 Michael Rafferty
19 Frank Burns
21 Ruairi McHugh
23 Conor O'Neill
16 Oisin O'Kane
18 Aidan Clarke
20 Ben Cullen
22 Oisin McCann
24 Ciaran Bogue 25 Lorcan McGarrity
26 Darren McCurry
Surely O'Rourke playing silly beggars with Canavan.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 26, 2026, 12:28:00 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 26, 2026, 12:26:54 PMTyrone team named. No changes.
1 Niall Morgan
2 Cormac Quinn
3 Peter Teague
4 Joey Clarke
5 Michael McKernan
6 Niall Devlin
7 Kieran McGeary
8 Brian Kennedy
9 Conn Kilpatrick
10 Seanie O'Donnell
11 Ronan Cassidy
12 Ciaran Daly
13 Eoin McElholm
14 Matthew Donnelly
15 Ethan Jordan
17 Michael Rafferty
19 Frank Burns
21 Ruairi McHugh
23 Conor O'Neill
16 Oisin O'Kane
18 Aidan Clarke
20 Ben Cullen
22 Oisin McCann
24 Ciaran Bogue 25 Lorcan McGarrity
26 Darren McCurry
Surely O'Rourke playing silly beggars with Canavan.
after seeing him v mayo im not expecting him to be fit
Cahir OKane reporting he isnt named on standby list either but wonders if its a feint.
I think sometimes a cigar is a cigar and it isnt ORourkes style doing that sort of thing nor is it any real advantage these days.
Beat Rossies without either Canavan and gonna soldier on that way.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 26, 2026, 01:24:27 PMCahir OKane reporting he isnt named on standby list either but wonders if its a feint.
I seen he tweeted earlier that the standby list hadn't been published yet unless he has put something out since?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2026, 09:54:11 PMCon O'Callaghan named on the published Dublin team, I doubt he'll start but it looks like Ger Brennan will keep Galway guessing.
Kerry with unchanged team. Burns back on the bench and back from suspension.
(https://i.ibb.co/v4tTrJFH/FB-IMG-1782420527948.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N24JkLvs)
(https://i.ibb.co/qKr8Z34/HLri6-Wz-XMAA8-Jjp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zp4gkTL)
Beggan named to start but will he be fit enough to take long ranges frees and 45s?
(https://i.ibb.co/VpM5tKfp/HLs-F9kv-Wg-AALw-Sj.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sJsz2B8J)
Dublin subs
Subs:
Hugh O'Sullivan, Tom Lahiff, Liam Smith, Greg McEneaney, Cian Murphy, Seán Guiden, Josh Bannon, Ross McGarry, Alex Gavin, Seán Bugler, Tim Deering
Other teams
GALWAY:
Connor Gleeson; Jack Glynn, Cian Hernon, Liam Silke; Dylan McHugh, John Daly, Sean Kelly; Paul Conroy, John Maher; Cein Darcy, Shane McGrath, Cillian McDaid; Robert Finnerty, Matthew Tierney, Shane Walsh.
Subs:
Conor Flaherty, Brian Cogger, Séan Mulkerrin, Johnny McGrath, Kieran Molloy, Fionn McDonagh, Daniel Ó Flaherty, Finnian Ó Laoi, Jack Mullen, Damien Comer, Liam Ó Conghaile
CORK: Patrick Doyle; Maurice Shanley, Daniel O'Mahony, Seán Meehan; Brian O'Driscoll, Tommy Walsh, Luke Fahy; Ian Maguire, Colm O'Callaghan; Paul Walsh, Dara Sheedy, Seán McDonnell; Mark Cronin, Chris Óg Jones, Steven Sherlock.
Subs: Micheál Aodh Martin, Jacob O'Driscoll, Seán Brady, Rory Maguire, Seán Walsh, David Buckley, Conor Cahalane, Eoghan McSweeney, Ruairi Deane, Conor Corbett, Brian Hurley.
MAYO: Jack Livingstone; Jack Coyne, Donnacha McHugh, Eoin McGreal; Sam Callinan, David McBrien, Enda Hession; Bob Touhy, Jack Carney; Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Jordan Flynn; Darragh Beirne, Ryan O'Donoghue, Kobe McDonald.
Subs: Rob Hennelly, Diarmuid Duffy, John McMonagle, Rory Brickenden, Conal Dawson, Aidan O'Shea, Matthew Ruane, Paul Towey, Fergal Boland, Tommy Conroy, Cian McHale.
TYRONE:
Niall Morgan; Cormac Quinn, Peter Teague, Joey Clarke; Michael McKernan, Niall Devlin, Kieran McGeary; Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick; Seanie O'Donnell, Ronan Cassidy, Ciaran Daly; Eoin McElholm, Mattie Donnelly, Ethan Jordan.
Subs:
Oisin O'Kane, Michael Rafferty, Aidan Clarke, Frank Burns, Ben Cullen, Ruairi McHugh, Oisin McCann, Conor O'Neill, Ciaran Bogue, Lorcan McGarrity, Darren McCurry.
LOUTH:
Niall Mc Donnell; Emmet Carolan, Donal McKenny, Daire Nally; Conal McKeever, Dara McDonnell, Craig Lennon; Paul Matthews, Sean Callaghan; James Maguire, Sam Mulroy, Conor Grimes; Kieran McArdle, Ciaran Downey, Ryan Burns.
Subs:
Tiarnan Markey, Ciaran Byrne, Tommy Durnin, Conor Early, Leonard Grey, Ciaran Keenan, Conall McCaul, Conor Mac Criosta Tadgh Mcdonnell, Padric Tinnelly, Anthony Williams.
Are Kerry the only team that start 4 natural midfielders and four natural forwards in their starting team?
Seeing that they are All-Ireland champions and favourites to retain it should others start to copy that selection?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLuZin9WgAAvglm?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2026, 02:35:01 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLuZin9WgAAvglm?format=jpg&name=small)
Nice touch to rest the 10 jersey for the weekend. Gaillimh Abú
Dubs will not be as spritely and Con though ruled fit has history of pulling up. Galway by 4.
Indeed a nice touch from Galway to honour a legend.
Do you have to buy both games singularly tomorrow on GAAgo?
Or is there a package available?
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 26, 2026, 04:48:14 PMDo you have to buy both games singularly tomorrow on GAAgo?
Or is there a package available?
The wife bought me a subscription a couple of weeks ago for Father's day, think it works out at 8 quid a month and its been good value considering all you get and the match day coverage is far superior to RTE, plan to cancel it for the winter months though :P
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2026, 02:30:58 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2026, 09:54:11 PMCon O'Callaghan named on the published Dublin team, I doubt he'll start but it looks like Ger Brennan will keep Galway guessing.
Kerry with unchanged team. Burns back on the bench and back from suspension.
(https://i.ibb.co/v4tTrJFH/FB-IMG-1782420527948.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N24JkLvs)
(https://i.ibb.co/qKr8Z34/HLri6-Wz-XMAA8-Jjp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zp4gkTL)
Beggan named to start but will he be fit enough to take long ranges frees and 45s?
(https://i.ibb.co/VpM5tKfp/HLs-F9kv-Wg-AALw-Sj.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sJsz2B8J)
Dublin subs
Subs:
Hugh O'Sullivan, Tom Lahiff, Liam Smith, Greg McEneaney, Cian Murphy, Seán Guiden, Josh Bannon, Ross McGarry, Alex Gavin, Seán Bugler, Tim Deering
Other teams
GALWAY:
Connor Gleeson; Jack Glynn, Cian Hernon, Liam Silke; Dylan McHugh, John Daly, Sean Kelly; Paul Conroy, John Maher; Cein Darcy, Shane McGrath, Cillian McDaid; Robert Finnerty, Matthew Tierney, Shane Walsh.
Subs:
Conor Flaherty, Brian Cogger, Séan Mulkerrin, Johnny McGrath, Kieran Molloy, Fionn McDonagh, Daniel Ó Flaherty, Finnian Ó Laoi, Jack Mullen, Damien Comer, Liam Ó Conghaile
CORK: Patrick Doyle; Maurice Shanley, Daniel O'Mahony, Seán Meehan; Brian O'Driscoll, Tommy Walsh, Luke Fahy; Ian Maguire, Colm O'Callaghan; Paul Walsh, Dara Sheedy, Seán McDonnell; Mark Cronin, Chris Óg Jones, Steven Sherlock.
Subs: Micheál Aodh Martin, Jacob O'Driscoll, Seán Brady, Rory Maguire, Seán Walsh, David Buckley, Conor Cahalane, Eoghan McSweeney, Ruairi Deane, Conor Corbett, Brian Hurley.
MAYO: Jack Livingstone; Jack Coyne, Donnacha McHugh, Eoin McGreal; Sam Callinan, David McBrien, Enda Hession; Bob Touhy, Jack Carney; Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Jordan Flynn; Darragh Beirne, Ryan O'Donoghue, Kobe McDonald.
Subs: Rob Hennelly, Diarmuid Duffy, John McMonagle, Rory Brickenden, Conal Dawson, Aidan O'Shea, Matthew Ruane, Paul Towey, Fergal Boland, Tommy Conroy, Cian McHale.
TYRONE:
Niall Morgan; Cormac Quinn, Peter Teague, Joey Clarke; Michael McKernan, Niall Devlin, Kieran McGeary; Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick; Seanie O'Donnell, Ronan Cassidy, Ciaran Daly; Eoin McElholm, Mattie Donnelly, Ethan Jordan.
Subs:
Oisin O'Kane, Michael Rafferty, Aidan Clarke, Frank Burns, Ben Cullen, Ruairi McHugh, Oisin McCann, Conor O'Neill, Ciaran Bogue, Lorcan McGarrity, Darren McCurry.
LOUTH:
Niall Mc Donnell; Emmet Carolan, Donal McKenny, Daire Nally; Conal McKeever, Dara McDonnell, Craig Lennon; Paul Matthews, Sean Callaghan; James Maguire, Sam Mulroy, Conor Grimes; Kieran McArdle, Ciaran Downey, Ryan Burns.
Subs:
Tiarnan Markey, Ciaran Byrne, Tommy Durnin, Conor Early, Leonard Grey, Ciaran Keenan, Conall McCaul, Conor Mac Criosta Tadgh Mcdonnell, Padric Tinnelly, Anthony Williams.
Are Kerry the only team that start 4 natural midfielders and four natural forwards in their starting team?
Seeing that they are All-Ireland champions and favourites to retain it should others start to copy that selection?
Or an admission of a weakness there or a complement to the opposition's midfield?
All 4 midfielders aren't prolific point scorers, so puts extra impetus on the 4 forwards, although the backs make up for them.
Their best back for scoring would have been Tom O'Sullivan.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 26, 2026, 05:21:26 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2026, 02:30:58 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2026, 09:54:11 PMCon O'Callaghan named on the published Dublin team, I doubt he'll start but it looks like Ger Brennan will keep Galway guessing.
Kerry with unchanged team. Burns back on the bench and back from suspension.
(https://i.ibb.co/v4tTrJFH/FB-IMG-1782420527948.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N24JkLvs)
(https://i.ibb.co/qKr8Z34/HLri6-Wz-XMAA8-Jjp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zp4gkTL)
Beggan named to start but will he be fit enough to take long ranges frees and 45s?
(https://i.ibb.co/VpM5tKfp/HLs-F9kv-Wg-AALw-Sj.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sJsz2B8J)
Dublin subs
Subs:
Hugh O'Sullivan, Tom Lahiff, Liam Smith, Greg McEneaney, Cian Murphy, Seán Guiden, Josh Bannon, Ross McGarry, Alex Gavin, Seán Bugler, Tim Deering
Other teams
GALWAY:
Connor Gleeson; Jack Glynn, Cian Hernon, Liam Silke; Dylan McHugh, John Daly, Sean Kelly; Paul Conroy, John Maher; Cein Darcy, Shane McGrath, Cillian McDaid; Robert Finnerty, Matthew Tierney, Shane Walsh.
Subs:
Conor Flaherty, Brian Cogger, Séan Mulkerrin, Johnny McGrath, Kieran Molloy, Fionn McDonagh, Daniel Ó Flaherty, Finnian Ó Laoi, Jack Mullen, Damien Comer, Liam Ó Conghaile
CORK: Patrick Doyle; Maurice Shanley, Daniel O'Mahony, Seán Meehan; Brian O'Driscoll, Tommy Walsh, Luke Fahy; Ian Maguire, Colm O'Callaghan; Paul Walsh, Dara Sheedy, Seán McDonnell; Mark Cronin, Chris Óg Jones, Steven Sherlock.
Subs: Micheál Aodh Martin, Jacob O'Driscoll, Seán Brady, Rory Maguire, Seán Walsh, David Buckley, Conor Cahalane, Eoghan McSweeney, Ruairi Deane, Conor Corbett, Brian Hurley.
MAYO: Jack Livingstone; Jack Coyne, Donnacha McHugh, Eoin McGreal; Sam Callinan, David McBrien, Enda Hession; Bob Touhy, Jack Carney; Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Jordan Flynn; Darragh Beirne, Ryan O'Donoghue, Kobe McDonald.
Subs: Rob Hennelly, Diarmuid Duffy, John McMonagle, Rory Brickenden, Conal Dawson, Aidan O'Shea, Matthew Ruane, Paul Towey, Fergal Boland, Tommy Conroy, Cian McHale.
TYRONE:
Niall Morgan; Cormac Quinn, Peter Teague, Joey Clarke; Michael McKernan, Niall Devlin, Kieran McGeary; Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick; Seanie O'Donnell, Ronan Cassidy, Ciaran Daly; Eoin McElholm, Mattie Donnelly, Ethan Jordan.
Subs:
Oisin O'Kane, Michael Rafferty, Aidan Clarke, Frank Burns, Ben Cullen, Ruairi McHugh, Oisin McCann, Conor O'Neill, Ciaran Bogue, Lorcan McGarrity, Darren McCurry.
LOUTH:
Niall Mc Donnell; Emmet Carolan, Donal McKenny, Daire Nally; Conal McKeever, Dara McDonnell, Craig Lennon; Paul Matthews, Sean Callaghan; James Maguire, Sam Mulroy, Conor Grimes; Kieran McArdle, Ciaran Downey, Ryan Burns.
Subs:
Tiarnan Markey, Ciaran Byrne, Tommy Durnin, Conor Early, Leonard Grey, Ciaran Keenan, Conall McCaul, Conor Mac Criosta Tadgh Mcdonnell, Padric Tinnelly, Anthony Williams.
Are Kerry the only team that start 4 natural midfielders and four natural forwards in their starting team?
Seeing that they are All-Ireland champions and favourites to retain it should others start to copy that selection?
Or an admission of a weakness there or a complement to the opposition's midfield?
All 4 midfielders aren't prolific point scorers, so puts extra impetus on the 4 forwards, although the backs make up for them.
Their best back for scoring would have been Tom O'Sullivan.
Their 2 midfielders are exceptional in the air, big brutes of men. All capable of coming up with scores as well and Joe O'Connor loves a goal.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 26, 2026, 05:21:26 PMOr an admission of a weakness there or a complement to the opposition's midfield?
All 4 midfielders aren't prolific point scorers, so puts extra impetus on the 4 forwards, although the backs make up for them.
Their best back for scoring would have been Tom O'Sullivan.
Don't think it's ever a Kerry trait to admit weakness. With winning primary ball in the middle now more important than ever the tactic of Kerry using four natural midfielders shouldn't go unnoticed.
All four good with their defensive duties responsibilities also, some other teams have good midfielders for fielding the ball however mediocre when tracking back and turning the ball over.
Kerry are very beatable but I can't see this Tyrone side doing it. Very much a team in transition with so many young players coming through. It's been unfortunate for Tyrone that the likes of Hampsey, McCurry and also Darragh haven't been available consistently (or at all) over the last few months to help with the balance between new players and those with more experience. The league was a shambles and while the Championship has been much better you're still working from a pretty small sample size there. I'd hope coming out of the two games against Roscommon and Mayo with narrow wins will have really helped the young lads. Main thing tomorrow is to give it a right good rattle, be competitive and gain more experience. If they do so and end up in the closing stages with a chance to win then great, but I don't think they are really at that point yet.
From Gaelicstatsman [championship games only]
Total scored/ conceded
T: 22 / 21.67
K: 25.6 / 19
Goals scored / conceded
T: 1.33/ 1.33
K: 2.0 / 0.80
2pts scored / conceded
T: 1.33/ 2.00
K: 3.00 / 2.80
Another interesting tid bit.
"Since 2022, there has been 16 All-Ireland SFC Quarter-Finals, 12 of those have been won by the side seeded in the draw"
First time to try predicting. Mayo,Kerry, Monaghan, Dublin. Mayo will get a boost from the Meath game. Kerry on a roll. Monaghan battle hardened. Galway haven't been overly impressive this year.
Kerry by 10
Cork by 3
Dublin by 2
Monaghan by 3
If the big heat comes again, then Kerry are better equipped & more used to it given they live 350km closer to the Equator than Tyrone.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 09:30:35 AMIf the big heat comes again, then Kerry are better equipped & more used to it given they live 350km closer to the Equator than Tyrone.
Aren't inland counties much more used to hot weather than coastal counties?
Same with all countries- Paris scorching in 42°C heat while the French Mediterranean coast is only 28°.
Tyrone are the only inland county to win an All-Ireland since 1982.
(Presuming Armagh doesn't count as an inland county?)
I'm a week behind but I've finally caught up! Televising NINE games the same weekend of the US Open. Sheesh! Nice thing about being in Canada is that it's easy to avoid final results. Alas it means avoid all the intelligent comments here. Excuse me if I rehash old points.
My one takeaway this year is that it doesn't pay to win a provincial championship. Kerry excepted, naturally. I would have thought that the least the GAA could have done was guarantee Provincial winners home games throughout these qualifying games. Certainly don't match two champs head to head in the round of 12.
Though I'm a traditionalist, I not opposed with past comments about getting rid of the provincials. The modern systems have made them obsolete.
My wish list would be to take the 32 teams, put them into 8 groups of 4, give everyone three games, with the group winners advancing to the QF.
Each group would have one team from each of the four league divisions. Instead of an open draw, teams are grouped based on geography. Northern counties in groups 1 & 2, southern in #7 & & #8. Then east for 3-4 and west for 5-6. This year Group 1 would have been Donegal, Derry, Down & Antrim. Group 8 Kerry, Cork, Wexford & Waterford.
Given the oncoming energy crisis the GAA may have to rethink all the travelling that's currently required for inter-county games.
Not to neglect the Tailteann Cup. The 24 non-group winners would compete for that. The nice thing about only 7 knockout games for the AI is that there will be time for replays.
I also have no wish to neglect New York. That game in May is technically a championship game but, in reality, it's an exhibition game. Why not send the defending AI champs to New York each May? Give American fans a chance to see the best live.
Sorry about the provincials. They simply don't jive with the modern format(unless you want to return to the back door system, which was a happy mix).
One last post and I'll be quiet.
Good point about Tyrone surprising Kerry four times then winning four AI titles. The catch is that those Tyrone teams did it with a defensive system that could frustrate Kerry's overwhelming talent. Such defensive systems have been banned by the new rules, allowing Kerry to run riot.
One way to look at it is that the most talented team should be champion. However the most talented may always be Kerry. Even the most enthusiastic fans of the new rules, may tire of everyone else playing for 2nd place.
Seems like a choice between the new rules with total Kerry dominance or the old rules where less talented teams can use the rules to negate such dominance.
Of course I'm wrong as I'm dealing in absolutes(unless five years from now we're speculating on Kerry's run for #7). I'm not expected anyone to trouble this great Kerry squad. However if one team can, I think it's Monaghan, which has developed the kind of attitude Tyrone had in "05 and '08.
Business end knock out football it's where the current standard and overall quality of any championship is really seen and can be fully judged.
Last year produced very few memorable encounters in the Quarter-finals,Semi-finals and final, surely 2026 will be an improvement starting today?
Kerry v Tyrone is a great fixture for both sides. Every time Tyrone win this fixture they win the All-Ireland that year and Kerry win the All-Ireland the following year!
Quote from: EoinW on June 27, 2026, 01:35:02 PMOne last post and I'll be quiet.
Good point about Tyrone surprising Kerry four times then winning four AI titles. The catch is that those Tyrone teams did it with a defensive system that could frustrate Kerry's overwhelming talent. Such defensive systems have been banned by the new rules, allowing Kerry to run riot.
One way to look at it is that the most talented team should be champion. However the most talented may always be Kerry. Even the most enthusiastic fans of the new rules, may tire of everyone else playing for 2nd place.
Seems like a choice between the new rules with total Kerry dominance or the old rules where less talented teams can use the rules to negate such dominance.
Of course I'm wrong as I'm dealing in absolutes(unless five years from now we're speculating on Kerry's run for #7). I'm not expected anyone to trouble this great Kerry squad. However if one team can, I think it's Monaghan, which has developed the kind of attitude Tyrone had in "05 and '08.
People still coming up with this tripe 20 years on. Tyrone were just better than Kerry in that decade. They won the three Championship encounters and by an aggregate score of 14 points - which flattered Kerry. Look at that 2005 Tyrone full forward line - Mulligan, Canavan and O'Neill with McGuigan feeding them. Kerry simply couldn't cope.
The 2021 team wasn't in the same class but they didn't defeat Kerry with defensive football either, it was a very open game.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 22, 2026, 11:29:51 AMQuote from: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2026, 11:07:52 AMDublin v Galway. Galway with the time to rest and recover and up against Dublin playing their 3rd game in 14 days plus extra time and probably without Con O'Callaghan should win by a few points to spare but knowing them it won't be straightforward so wouldn't rule out extra time before they prevail.
Cork v Mayo. What shape Mayo are in after games against Meath,Tyrone in consecutive weeks that went to the wire is the big question. Mayo I'd still give the slight edge if extra time Cork should win.
Kerry v Tyrone. Probably the game neither wanted. 3 games in 14 days isn't going to bother Kerry too much as they had strolls against Armagh and Kildare. Tyrone will surely defend a lot better than Armagh did? Would expect similar to the semi-finals last year with Kerry to win by 4 to 6 points.
Louth v Monaghan. Great to see one of these teams just two wins away from reaching the All-Ireland final. Has the potential to be the best of the 4 games. I think Monaghan should edge it, last two games not going to the wire a big bonus and have the recent experience of reaching the semi final.
I'd say Kerry happy enough. Another chance to put manners in Ulster opposition, and there is no one they enjoy beating more. Tyrone have beaten Kerry as underdogs all 4 times they won an All Ireland so here's hoping, wouldn't have a great deal of confidence though - Kerry to keep them at arms length
Tyrone have met Kerry nine times in championship history in knockout Croke Park games.
Kerry's five wins Tyrone have four wins.
Kerry - 1986, 2015, 2019, 2023 and 2025.
Tyrone - 2003, 2005, 2008 and 2021.
Kerry beat Tyrone in 2012 also.
One change for Mayo before throw in Towey for Loftus.
MAYO: Jack Livingstone; Jack Coyne, Donnacha McHugh, Eoin McGreal; Sam Callinan, David McBrien, Enda Hession; Bob Touhy, Jack Carney; Stephen Coen, Paul Towey, Jordan Flynn; Darragh Beirne, Ryan O'Donoghue, Kobe McDonald.
Subs: Rob Hennelly, Diarmuid Duffy, John McMonagle, Rory Brickenden, Conal Dawson, Aidan O'Shea, Matthew Ruane, Conor Loftus, Fergal Boland, Tommy Conroy, Cian McHale.
One change for Cork Rory Maguire in for the injured Luke Fahy, Darragh Clifford wears no. 7
CORK: Patrick Doyle; Maurice Shanley, Daniel O'Mahony, Seán Meehan; Brian O'Driscoll, Tommy Walsh,Rory Maguire; Ian Maguire, Colm O'Callaghan; Paul Walsh, Dara Sheedy, Seán McDonnell; Mark Cronin, Chris Óg Jones, Steven Sherlock.
Subs: Micheál Aodh Martin, Jacob O'Driscoll, Seán Brady, Darragh Clifford Seán Walsh, David Buckley, Conor Cahalane, Eoghan McSweeney, Ruairi Deane, Conor Corbett, Brian Hurley.
The Kerry PTSD narrative is amusing but ultimately dated and cringe at this stage. Paper never refuses ink they say.
Tyrone could save the competition as a contest with a
Think its kitchen sink for first half and see what happens. Good luck to all the gladiators entering the arena today.
This is the best season I've ever seen from a keeper in his debut season
Also this will make the games hateful to watch if the pitch is in this shape. Lost count already of the amount of slips
Some bad wides already in this that would put Dublin and Donegal to shame.
Possible penalty to Mayo not given. 0-2 each.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2026, 04:12:35 PMPossible penalty to Mayo not given. 0-2 each.
I thought was pretty blatant as was a wild, swinging arm. Michael Meehan reckoned he got the ball which I didn't see at all.
QuoteKerry v Tyrone is a great fixture for both sides. Every time Tyrone win this fixture they win the All-Ireland that year and Kerry win the All-Ireland the following year!
Would 2025 be the first time that after Kerry beat Tyrone , they won the All Ireland?
2012, 2015, 2019, I think Kerry beat Tyrone but never won Sam those years
Mayo not capitalising on early dominance. Cork will punish them later when they get going.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 27, 2026, 04:17:02 PMQuoteKerry v Tyrone is a great fixture for both sides. Every time Tyrone win this fixture they win the All-Ireland that year and Kerry win the All-Ireland the following year!
Would 2025 be the first time that after Kerry beat Tyrone , they won the All Ireland?
2012, 2015, 2019, I think Kerry beat Tyrone but never won Sam those years
1986 no?
Mayo man just stopped tracking his runner there going down the sideline?
Half time Cork 0-9 Mayo 0-9. The breach score before the break could be a big one for Mayo.
Hopefully the other 3 games are better quality.
Cork with some awful shooting.
Mayo without doing a whole pile are in at HT level.
Ref. not too favorable to Mayo either - Cork getting easier frees as opposed to few for Mayo.
Would like to see again but would have given peno. ROD does have a tendency to dive and should have went for a goal on second score.
Cork putting lot wide
No games on normal tv?
Cork better team first half with nothing to show for it.
Cork do alot of stupid things at times which is probably why they will never reach the top.
Stephen Coen probably lucky to be still on the field.
Expect Mayo to come into it in the 2nd half when they begin to settle.
Mayo by 6 or 7 into the scoring goals.
Yeah, decent contest but poor enough quality.
Cork with 8 scores from 19 shots - missed 10 shots from play in that half :-X
Nayo with 7 scores from 13 shots not exactly pulling up trees.
Jack Carney lucky not to have black card first half as well
Mayo four points ahead.
Mayo 0-12 with 0-4 from all 3 in the full-forward line.
So are they just not calling the 3 up anymore if a player goes for the ball and crosses the line? Cork players looked upset with that one
Cork shooting just an absolute car crash.
The one thing is that bad and all as it has been Mayo are only up by 4
Literally called in a derry senior club game i watched last sunday evening.
Cork 0-12 Mayo 0-15.
Mayo competing perfectly well for a team playing 3 weeks in a row.
Some contest. Will see about Mayos energy now. Cork waiting for Sherlock to save them
Mayo lead by 4 points again.
Have this Cork team ever played together?
Cork handling errors count must be off the chart
5 two pointers for Mayo so far
Mayo 0-19 Cork 0-16. 11 minutes to play.
Mayo 4 points in front once again 8 minutes left.
This Cork team are absolutely shocking
Cork should have started goal hunting 10mins ago
Cork goal chance saved, from the next attack a free in and Mayo lead by 4 points once more.
It normally goes to whatever keeper made the All Ireland final and did well but surely there's only one option here
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 27, 2026, 05:27:10 PMThis Cork team are absolutely shocking
Tells you how bad Donegal was to lose at home and only score 1-13 against that Cork team.
14 wides for Cork. God hope Tyrone dont do likewise.
Loftus has been great this year, he points then ROD takes in a 2pter to tap one
23 to 17
Amateur stuff from Cork- 2 breaches.
Football IQ non existent.
Two very average teams.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 27, 2026, 05:34:38 PMAmateur stuff from Cork- 2 breaches.
Football IQ non existent.
The hurlers were the main hope this year.
Full time Mayo 0-23 Cork 0-18. Much the better team won, Cork shooting efficiency woeful.
This has been criminally inept and abject from Cork.
The better team won but both were poor enough.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 05:37:27 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 27, 2026, 05:34:38 PMAmateur stuff from Cork- 2 breaches.
Football IQ non existent.
The hurlers were the main hope this year.
They have good footballers though just make terrible decisions
Martin McNally excellent referee performance. He let good tackles happen and didnt reward lads looking for frees.
Conor Lane tale note.
Great to see an 18 yo and 19yo whacking points in Croker. Mayo good value.
Hope Kerry using the same rifle scope as Cork men today
Andy Moran had defence clued in for Sherlock in 2nd half, rarely got off shot without someone breathing down hos neck
Horrific performance by Cork.
Mayo got the win but I'd say a lot of teams wouldn't mind meeting them in the semi-final especially given how many shooting chances they gave Cork.
Quote from: OakLeaf on June 27, 2026, 05:39:15 PMThe better team won but both were poor enough.
Precisely this. Tallest midget etc.
Nobody will be overly scared of Mayo after that. They do have the players and capacity to catch fire though.
Mayo's wholesome persistent tackling hardly gave an inch to the Cork attack.
Between wides, turnovers and generally butchered attacks, Cork left a swipe of scores behind them there today. As only Cork can do, they pull out some huge wins to make it to this stage and then play like a team that had no business being there in the first place.
Both teams poor but the big Difference between the teams is Mayo now have forwards.
Something their all ireland final losing teams didnt have.
19 points from their FF line.
They will have a chance in every game they play with that return.
Cork do have an exceptional minor team so plenty of hard work going on in the football areas.
Mayo to beat Kerry in semi then give Sam to Galway
Very good win for Mayo you could tell even 1st half it was there to be won if good enough and were certainly that 2nd half. The scoring full forward of O'Donoghue,McDonald and Beirne produced the goods in Croke Park.
Cork forwards with their shooting and decision making some contrast, Into a 15th year for a county of Cork's size and tradition to not reach the last 4 is simply unacceptable.
What can Tyrone do (based off Kerry's performance last week) to stay competitive
2 average enough teams, Cork shooting was woeful. McDonald is a joy to watch and will be such a loss for the GAA as well as Mayo. Conroy did well when he came on, a pleasure to watch as well. Some excellent defensive turnovers at times from Mayo although hard to know if it was them being good or Cork being bad. The other semi finalists will have no fear of Mayo.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 05:49:17 PMWhat can Tyrone do (based off Kerry's performance last week) to stay competitive
Don'tgive the ball away, be clinical up front and hope they can get some sort of foothold in midfield.
If mayo draw Louth or Monaghan they could get to the AI final. It's the hope that kills you...
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 05:40:38 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on June 27, 2026, 05:39:15 PMThe better team won but both were poor enough.
Precisely this. Tallest midget etc.
Nobody will be overly scared of Mayo after that. They do have the players and capacity to catch fire though.
Really not sure how anyone arrives at this opinion.
Mayo have a solid defence and a strong enough attacking core which allows them to win games even with a fair bit less possession than their opponents.
Obviously there's a few issues at midfield, but so have most teams.
Can Mayo win the AI? Yes. I wouldn't back then with your money but they are good enough.
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Superb refereeing display today.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2026, 05:49:06 PMVery good win for Mayo you could tell even 1st half it was there to be won if good enough and were certainly that 2nd half. The scoring full forward of O'Donoghue,McDonald and Beirne produced the goods in Croke Park.
Cork forwards with their shooting and decision making some contrast, Into a 15th year for a county of Cork's size and tradition to not reach the last 4 is simply unacceptable.
Cork flower every 20 years or so. Down are similar. When they are good, they are very good.
Cork very limited up front outside Sherlock who is their only reliable shooter. Especially now that Hurley is a sub. Chris Og Jones dangerous with his pace running the ball alright. Some of their shooting was atrocious. Energy draining wides. Had more than enough possession.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 05:49:17 PMWhat can Tyrone do (based off Kerry's performance last week) to stay competitive
Maybe not mark Clifford at all and use the spare man to sweep midfield. Tactical innovation
Dara Beirne is a son of Kevin who played for Mayo in the 90s and Kobe's Dad Ciaran was also a Mayo player in the 90s. 2 very exciting players. Interesting that last week they were 9 points behind Meath and now this week they are in the all Ireland semi final.
A good first year for Andy Moran. Into the semis.
Anyone having problems buying game on GAAgo?
Silly from mckernan getting involved in off the ball stuff and punished with a two.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 05:49:17 PMWhat can Tyrone do (based off Kerry's performance last week) to stay competitive
Defend better than Armagh. Don't drop the intensity levels if you find yourself 6 points behind at half time.
Is GAA+ buffering for anyone else?
QuoteIs GAA+ buffering for anyone else?
I couldn't get it at all. Payment kept failing . I've bought matches before with same card too
Radio for me ffs
Good start by Tyrone.
Quote from: tyroneStatto on June 27, 2026, 06:28:34 PMIs GAA+ buffering for anyone else?
Skipping back a lot for me but I presumed that was the dodgy box ;D
Good start from both teams. Peter Teague would be well advised to cut that roaring in lads' faces out of his game completely. Nearly cost them a few weeks ago.
Strange Morgan didnt go 2 pts...maybe afraid of restart
Might be 10-5 if morgan nailed those
gaa + stuttering a bit in pub
Tyrone holding their own and leading 0-7 to 0-5 in opening quarter.
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 06:32:11 PMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 27, 2026, 06:28:34 PMIs GAA+ buffering for anyone else?
Skipping back a lot for me but I presumed that was the dodgy box ;D
Good start from both teams. Peter Teague would be well advised to cut that roaring in lads' faces out of his game completely. Nearly cost them a few weeks ago.
Correct on Teague.
1-3 already for Clifford, different class.
Magical from Clifford. Stronger, sharper, better.
Decent enough fare....
Clifford is special
That was lunacy from Kennedy. Went for the big inspirational one. It's normally Kilpatrick who has that brain fart.
Commentators are numpties. Not a double hop at all as Clifford didn't catch the ball initially.
Dylan Geaney a bit lucky there having shoved Morgan into the umpire.
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 06:41:11 PMThat was lunacy from Kennedy. Went for the big inspirational one. It's normally Kilpatrick who has that brain fart.
Commentators are numpties. Not a double hop at all as Clifford didn't catch the ball initially.
Dylan Geaney a bit lucky there having shoved Morgan into the umpire.
kennedy prone to that too as well as half the other ones on this Tyrone team
Yeah I don't get the double hop thing. Nonsense.
Tyrone putting up a decent show here but there is some quality in that Kerry team.
Kerry keeper's kickouts are masterful.
Super tackle and 2 pointer from McGeary.
Morgans saved us a few times there sweeping up there. How can there be a spare man 10 yards from goal with nobody near him?
Tyrone very much in this but hard to see a way all these poor efforts don't cost them in the end.
Two ridiculous frees given to Kerry there. They dont need the help.
Yup proud of the boys so far. Going for it...need goals
Half time Kerry 1-11 Tyrone 0-12. Higher quality game than than Mayo v Cork. Though Tyrone will be disappointed with their 7 wides
Kerry forwards getting a lot of protection, slight bit more composure from Tyrone and they'd be in a much better position,
Ref not letting this one go in comparison to the last game
Kerry got the wind in the 2nd half.
Tyrone with an almost shoot on sight policy with 2 point efforts. They disappointment will be the missed 2 point free and 45 from Jordan. Entertaining enough half.
Please Malachy make Niall Morgan hit all frees. Take the pressure of Ethan. It really is that simple. Take every opportunity to build pressure.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 06:54:04 PMRef not letting this one go in comparison to the last game
Good to see a ref who blows for fouls. "Letting it flow" should not mean ignoring most fouls as we get from too many refs.
Tyrone hanging in well enough but they're not engineering anything like the same number of bread-and-butter points that Kerry are. That'll be their undoing, if they're planning on continuing to walk the ball around the arc before shooting mammoth 2-pointers. Not a sustainable tactic. Good enough ould match though.
Tyrone won't score 12 points in the 2nd half but Kerry will.
Tyrone playing well and if they can keep up their turnover rate they've a chance. Kerry are scary up front though.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on June 27, 2026, 06:58:16 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 06:54:04 PMRef not letting this one go in comparison to the last game
Good to see a ref who blows for fouls. "Letting it flow" should not mean ignoring most fouls as we get from too many refs.
I agree but there shouldn't be this much of a difference between the 2 games. If it's a foul it's a foul
Hard to live with 4 midfielders in there, good work by Niall Devlin there though
Mugsy on the money here. Two Tyrone lads should have had that ball before Clifford for the goal but didn't throw themselves at it enough. That was all Clifford needed.
Quote from: Quarterbackk on June 27, 2026, 06:57:39 PMPlease Malachy make Niall Morgan hit all frees. Take the pressure of Ethan. It really is that simple. Take every opportunity to build pressure.
Strange alright. Jordan is hitting well just not getting direction. Baptism of fire for him doing well otherwise
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 07:01:23 PMQuote from: Tatler Jack on June 27, 2026, 06:58:16 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 06:54:04 PMRef not letting this one go in comparison to the last game
Good to see a ref who blows for fouls. "Letting it flow" should not mean ignoring most fouls as we get from too many refs.
I agree but there shouldn't be this much of a difference between the 2 games. If it's a foul it's a foul
Or their shouldn't be a difference at either end of the pitch within a game. McKernan was fouled just before he kicked wide and it wasn't called.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 06:55:26 PMTyrone with an almost shoot on sight policy with 2 point efforts. They disappointment will be the missed 2 point free and 45 from Jordan. Entertaining enough half.
Those were killer. McElholm should have slotted his.
Goals required. Lets hope they have a plan and kerry tire
Fun fact: various pest control companies in Dublin offer services to deter seagulls. Why not allow the hawks to chase the seagulls away instead of them just checking whether points are scored or wide?
Holy f**k do our lads want to pick up on the kickouts maybe?
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 07:16:34 PMHoly f**k do our lads want to pick up on the kickouts maybe?
😂😂😂 don't know whether to laugh or cry. We are a joke on these kickouts
Tyrone getting away with some serious cynical fouling.
Kilpatrick. Donkey. No need for it. McKernan does the same too often
There's the Kilpatrick brain fart anyway. Can't be giving them easy two pointers like that.
Real danger of the game just drifting away from Tyrone here.
Lucky enough to get a chance to get the two points right back because that was a hospital pass to Kennedy from...Jordan I think?
You can't bring up mark foul?
Sort of felt the game would go this way in Q3, kerry would raise it a gear and start to pull away.
Can't win games if you can't win opposition kickouts at all and are hitting this amount of wides
Stupidity. You're never scoring a goal from that angle. Fisted point every time
The amount of screening/obstruction from Kerry is something else.
Tyrone need to stay calm and hope kerry blink
Quote from: BigGreenField on June 27, 2026, 07:26:06 PMThe amount of screening/obstruction from Kerry is something else.
Tyrone could do the same but that would require braincells. Paudie showed what you do in that position. Take the point
Christ what a let off.
This is where Tyrone have to go all out for it. No not messing.
Dylan Geaney has really arrived this year. Unreal today.
Kerry 1-20 Tyrone 0-21. 13 minutes to play.
10 minutes to play Kerry 1-21 Tyrone 0-23
Fair play to Tyrone here. Really making a go of it.
Around the neck not a black anymore?
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 07:41:28 PMAround the neck not a black anymore?
Think it was more of a closed fist box in the face after the replay. Lucky boy.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 07:41:28 PMAround the neck not a black anymore?
No, not sure it ever was
Don't think it ever was?
It never was but thats a red card tackle. Also relating to the mark, it cant be moved up but was for Kerry
It wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Brilliant from McCurry.
1-23 to 0-24. 6 minutes left.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
They why move it up?
Jesus how did the umpire miss that
That was a wide. Big teams getting the big calls?
Lol Teague dragged down in the air and 45 from a wide ball. Played terrible on the kickouts but hard enough against Kerry if you aren't getting those calls
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 27, 2026, 07:48:54 PMThat was a wide. Big teams getting the big calls?
Tyrone are a big team too.
Kerry getting the help from the officials as expected.
A bit reckless from Donnelly, who has been brilliant, at one end and a couple of soft scores at the other end just keeping Kerry in front.
McCurry has been as good as he ever has the last fortnight. Don't think he's kicked a wide.
Kilpatrick throwing his body everywhere.
Epic Conn..no 45 surely?
Tyrone bench lacking. Say a wee prayer
Quote from: tyroneStatto on June 27, 2026, 07:50:19 PMKerry getting the help from the officials as expected.
Oh give over. He just gave Kilpatrick one for absolutely nothing.
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 07:42:45 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 07:41:28 PMAround the neck not a black anymore?
Think it was more of a closed fist box in the face after the replay. Lucky boy.
Is Michael Murphy playing?
Kerry 1-24 Tyrone 0-26. 3 minutes left.
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 07:51:19 PMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 27, 2026, 07:50:19 PMKerry getting the help from the officials as expected.
Oh give over. He just gave Kilpatrick one for absolutely nothing.
Ah here. Breen jumped into him. Both feet were off the ground
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 07:51:19 PMQuote from: tyroneStatto on June 27, 2026, 07:50:19 PMKerry getting the help from the officials as expected.
Oh give over. He just gave Kilpatrick one for absolutely nothing.
What one out on the sideline compared to all numerous ones for Kerry.
Quote from: tyroneStatto on June 27, 2026, 07:50:19 PMKerry getting the help from the officials as expected.
Same as it ever was.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:48:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
What's not correct? Calls the mark, is fouled and the ball is moved up, don't call the mark is fouled it's free from that position?
That was a free to Tyrone. Man taken out on the kickout.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 27, 2026, 07:53:59 PMThat was a free to Tyrone. Man taken out on the kickout.
Was he taken out or did they run into each other?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:53:47 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:48:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
What's not correct? Calls the mark, is fouled and the ball is moved up, don't call the mark is fouled it's free from that position?
The ref can award the mark wether its claimed or not
Balls to that. Some effort from Tyrone.
What a game. Tyrone will quite rightly ponder on the 45 awarded against them but more importantly the frees and 45s they missed.
Great shoot out, Tyrone can consider themselves unfortunate on some big calls, can't kick that many wides though.
That is cruel. Tyrone deserved something from that.
Hard luck Tyrone. Great performance. Kerry just about kept ahead down the home stretch .
Wouldn't have mattered either way because they didn't have the time but Tyrone didn't deserve that.
Terrific effort from Tyrone and a massive test for Kerry. They were able to win without ever really getting out of 3rd gear and were able to just keep their noses in front the whole way down the stretch.
Result Kerry 2-25 Tyrone 0-27. Great battle credit to both sides, the goal at the end flattered Kerry.
Brilliant game.
Conn and Dazzler were outstanding.
The ref gave every marginal call in the one direction from minutes 35 to 65 and had nearly as much of an influence on the outcome as anyone in green.
Kerry's kickouts are amazing. David Clifford is though fundamentally the difference between Kerry being in the pack and a little ahead.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:56:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:53:47 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:48:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
What's not correct? Calls the mark, is fouled and the ball is moved up, don't call the mark is fouled it's free from that position?
The ref can award the mark wether its claimed or not
Mark called or not, the free is no longer moved up. They got two points from it.
Not sure I see Galway putting up a tougher fight than what Tyrone just managed.
Kerry forwards are just too lethal as a group. Even if you took out David Clifford, they'd still be favourites for the AI.
Morgan half a yard faster he might be a hero. Epic effort. Lot of proud Tyrone people today, kerry were there for the taking.
Nobody to blame but ourselves. We were shockingly poor on the kickouts
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:01:00 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:56:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:53:47 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:48:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
What's not correct? Calls the mark, is fouled and the ball is moved up, don't call the mark is fouled it's free from that position?
The ref can award the mark wether its claimed or not
Mark called or not, the free is no longer moved up. They got two points from it.
Im not disagreeing with you in the slightest on that one.
That felt like an AI final. The standard of football just there compared to the Mayo vs Cork match is laughable.
Great game, I thought I had seen the best of Dazzler but far from it. Need to be using umpires with a set of eyes this time of year
Hard luck Tyrone .........deserved more from that game. Dazzler some player. Ref made a few ...big calls to Kerry's advantage.
No grá for Tyrone but lots to admire in that effort which might be the toughest game Kerry get en route to winning Sam. They had to work so hard for their scores and were ritually disembowelled on kickouts, but managed to hang in with Donnelly and McCurry leading the charge. A few inches lower by McElholm for a goal, a bit more composure in front of goal generally, those big calls that went Kerry's way...? That said, Kerry looked like any time they really needed scores they could get them.
Kerry hung on by the skin of their teeth. A gritty performance from Tyrone.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 27, 2026, 08:02:06 PMNobody to blame but ourselves. We were shockingly poor on the kickouts
Yep the last two kerry got with no one around.
Very disappointing, ref was ok I d have to see it back.
Opened kerry up a good few times and just depended on magic that nearly came
The match reminded me of this interview from 2021.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/feargal-logan-and-brian-dooher-bask-in-the-glow-of-all-ireland-success-1.4671709
The question I would say is: why do you have to wait a year or two," explained Dooher before the team departed Croke Park on Saturday evening.
"You only get one chance and you make the most of it whenever you can. Let's face it, we had the rub of the green at times and we needed it. Particularly the semi-final, when we used up a right bit of luck. And today, too, we used up a right bit of it. But the way we look at it is: don't wait until tomorrow. You know, do what you can today. And don't put off anything that you can do today. And them boys did that. You never know. You might never be back again in an All-Ireland final. And you have to grasp that opportunity."
Harte is a nephew of Mickey Harte, the manager of Tyrone's first three All-Ireland wins. He is also a son-in-law of Peter Canavan, the county's most celebrated Gaelic football player. He is immersed in a culture of All-Ireland winning know-how.
"No goals, no goals! That was the big thing," says Logan when asked what went through his mind as the clock ran down.
"There does come a tipping point in the line when you think 'you know what, we might be home,' but then you're even afraid to think that, because we've all had our shocks in football matches. So no goals was the big thing, and just who was out on their feet, and had we anybody left to put in.
"So essentially that, and the same principles apply to all matches."
What was the story with Darragh for the last couple of weeks? He was able to come on against Mayo so did he aggravate something?
On GAA+ btw, they need to f**k off with automatically going to replays before seeing what the keeper is doing. They missed a bucket load of kickouts, which had a huge influence on the game.
Deserved More? How long were Kerry in the lead?
We are getting closer to Kerry that's one positive to take from today. We will take them in the next couple of seasons.
That was a fine effort from Tyrone. We have to reflect on an attack that was at times too pedestrian, on too many wides, and on losing the kick out battle badly. But for all that we were right in at the end. And while we only have ourselves to blame for the issues highlighted above, the officials made some huge errors in the closing stages in particular that had a massive impact on the outcome. That leaves a sour tate in the mouth.
After the shambles of the league the Championship has been much better. It will stand to the all the young players on the panel - and there's more of them to come. I'd like to think some of the older lads will stick around for a year or two yet. Speaking of them, hats off to McCurry, magnificent cameo.
When Kerry win the all ireland they need to send Paddy Neilan a medal for his performance today
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 07:59:27 PMWouldn't have mattered either way because they didn't have the time but Tyrone didn't deserve that.
Terrific effort from Tyrone and a massive test for Kerry. They were able to win without ever really getting out of 3rd gear and were able to just keep their noses in front the whole way down the stretch.
Bull and an insult to Tyrone. This was a game of inches and Kerry fell over the line.
Best game of the year to date? Or possibly the last few years? Only really missing a good schemozzle.
Aishling Reilly said 3 or 4 times Malachy O Rourke was in his first year as Tyrone manager. . Poor enough for someone covering Gaa.
Great effort by Tyrone. Just short on a bit of luck. Could be the team to tackle Kerry in the next few years.
Hard luck to tyrone and well done to kerry. They were always a bit better but tyrone could have sneaked it. Thought kerry got a 45 which wasn't a 45 but that same incident should have been a penalty for kerry for a dangerous foot block. You can't tackle a player, in the act of kicking, with your foot. As it turned out the point from the 45 gave kerry enough of a cushion. Tyrone will be kicking themselves they didn't bring on mccurry much earlier if not from the start. He was arguably man of the match for his 25 minutes.
Quote from: jb77 on June 27, 2026, 08:03:17 PMGreat game, I thought I had seen the best of Dazzler but far from it. Need to be using umpires with a set of eyes this time of year
Lot not happy he wasnt starting.
Hard luck to Tyrone, Kerry just about got over the line. Only a matter ot time before Tyrone get the ducks in a row, but Kerry might have 3 or 4 Sams in a row by that stage.
Massive Pride there, that was some game.
Ultimately a tale of two teams separated by kick out success and vital wides. Some of the misses were head scratching, but the lack of kick out success for Tyrone Vs virtually uncontested Kerry wins from their own ball was massive. I wouldn't say Kerry didn't get out of 3rd gear, they were pinned to their collar from the get go.
Shame that the referee is even mentioned, but 2 if not 3 shocking calls cost Tyrone points and importantly momentum.
Mattie Donnelly is a monster. Has anyone, including PTG, put themselves through more for Tyrone? Rightfully up there with Red Hand legends. Be nice to see him one more season in the good going but that could be a selfish perspective.
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 27, 2026, 08:15:43 PMAishling Reilly said 3 or 4 times Malachy O Rourke was in his first year as Tyrone manager. . Poor enough for someone covering Gaa.
Sure Paddy Andrews won 7 all irelands for Kerry in the broadcast.
Hard luck Tyrone. Some good players coming through.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 08:14:26 PMBest game of the year to date? Or possibly the last few years? Only really missing a good schemozzle.
Leinster final or Louth-Dublin for me.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on June 27, 2026, 08:11:34 PMBull and an insult to Tyrone. This was a game of inches and Kerry fell over the line.
Believe what you want. I praised them plenty. This Kerry team have more gears in them.
Brilliant effort from Tyrone all the way, the last play I thought there was more than enough time to play for a 2 pointer from the free. Last week cheering on Dublin, this week cheering on Tyrone to get over the line, as the song goes -- crazy world.
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 27, 2026, 08:16:55 PMGreat effort by Tyrone. Just short on a bit of luck. Could be the team to tackle Kerry in the next few years.
They have a lot of underage talent in the pipeline. They will have learnt a lot from today and Tyrone know how to win all Irelands.
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 08:22:27 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 08:14:26 PMBest game of the year to date? Or possibly the last few years? Only really missing a good schemozzle.
Leinster final or Louth-Dublin for me.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on June 27, 2026, 08:11:34 PMBull and an insult to Tyrone. This was a game of inches and Kerry fell over the line.
Believe what you want. I praised them plenty. This Kerry team have more gears in them.
Talking thru your hole. Tyrone stiffed by the officials.
The moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
David Clifford was quiet enough in the final third of the game. Banning the fisted points would knock a few points off his total.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
Quote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:30:00 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
What?
That Tyrone effort really showed Armagh up to how poor they were last week and how they made Kerry look better than they currently are.
Way Tyrone was wrote off was a bit ridiculous, if it wasn't for some favorable referee decisions Tyrone could well have won that game.
A first truly good knock out championship game in Croke Park since the new rules was brought in?
Fantastic performance by the lads. I said Niall devlin should have been on david from the start, not after he already scored 1-4.
Lack of a kick out strategy by management and not having mccurry on from at least half time cost us.
Less said about the ref the better.
Still not convinced by orouke on a tatical level.
Few right-thinking folk will weep for the demise of a county who dirty Joed two of their finest to install the most costly mercenary management ever.
Ill let derry man address refd etc
Tyrone had the winning of it even if you include these.
https://nitter.net/CahairOKane1/status/2070945718211125517#m
So disappointed for Dazzler not starting given his electric form.
That was an enormous shot at Sam, hope the old guard can stick at it for one more push.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 27, 2026, 08:33:46 PMFew right-thinking folk will weep for the demise of a county who dirty Joed two of their finest to install the most costly mercenary management ever.
Rumors of their demise are premature, Horse.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 08:27:14 PMDavid Clifford was quiet enough in the final third of the game. Banning the fisted points would knock a few points off his total.
You would think some of the Kerry players were feeling it, with no week off
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:30:29 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:30:00 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
What?
Calling out a ref who called it right
Foul = 50m
Hard luck to Tyrone but Kerry had them at arms length I felt. Few more gears in them. Tyrone kept plugging away but never got in front and never looked like getting in front either.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:39:14 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:30:29 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:30:00 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
What?
Calling out a ref who called it right
Foul = 50m
No the 50 metre advancement on foul at mark was rescinded earlier this year.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:40:50 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:39:14 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:30:29 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:30:00 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
What?
Calling out a ref who called it right
Foul = 50m
No the 50 metre advancement on foul at mark was rescinded earlier this year.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0617/1518974-kick-out-mark-50m-penalty-scrapped-in-favour-of-free/
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:40:50 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:39:14 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:30:29 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:30:00 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
What?
Calling out a ref who called it right
Foul = 50m
No the 50 metre advancement on foul at mark was rescinded earlier this year.
Bad mistake by the ref, also the 45m call (umpire?) was dreadful
Quote from: Puckoon on June 27, 2026, 08:35:35 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 27, 2026, 08:33:46 PMFew right-thinking folk will weep for the demise of a county who dirty Joed two of their finest to install the most costly mercenary management ever.
Rumors of their demise are premature, Horse.
True, Horse. Logan and Dooher win that game.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:40:50 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:39:14 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:30:29 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2026, 08:30:00 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on June 27, 2026, 08:26:19 PMThe moving up a mark free 50 metres is actually scandalous. A referee unaware of basic rules at this level.
Oh dear 🫣
What?
Calling out a ref who called it right
Foul = 50m
No the 50 metre advancement on foul at mark was rescinded earlier this year.
Oh, well there you go. Duly noted, as you were deeds 👏
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 27, 2026, 08:44:51 PMQuote from: Puckoon on June 27, 2026, 08:35:35 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 27, 2026, 08:33:46 PMFew right-thinking folk will weep for the demise of a county who dirty Joed two of their finest to install the most costly mercenary management ever.
Rumors of their demise are premature, Horse.
True, Horse. Logan and Dooher win that game.
G'wan. Giddy Up and away with ye
Quote from: Stickittotheman on June 27, 2026, 08:40:26 PMHard luck to Tyrone but Kerry had them at arms length I felt. Few more gears in them. Tyrone kept plugging away but never got in front and never looked like getting in front either.
The lead 7 to 4 at one stage, might have been 10-5 had morgan nailed the frees rather than let jordan hit them.
Cahair mentions an incident where Kilpatrick fielded the ball and landed infield. I thought he landed with one foot either side of the line. Is there any formal language around the requirement of the player to land in the field of play in order to be awarded a mark?
There have been loads of incidents the last few years where a lad catches it but gets bundled over the line before getting his feet down and the ref has seemed to automatically give them the mark.
Quote from: Puckoon on June 27, 2026, 08:48:46 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 27, 2026, 08:44:51 PMQuote from: Puckoon on June 27, 2026, 08:35:35 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 27, 2026, 08:33:46 PMFew right-thinking folk will weep for the demise of a county who dirty Joed two of their finest to install the most costly mercenary management ever.
Rumors of their demise are premature, Horse.
True, Horse. Logan and Dooher win that game.
G'wan. Giddy Up and away with ye
Ok, but I never felt confident at any stage that Tyrone had it in them to win that.
Poor enough return for yourselves.
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 27, 2026, 08:36:00 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 08:27:14 PMDavid Clifford was quiet enough in the final third of the game. Banning the fisted points would knock a few points off his total.
You would think some of the Kerry players were feeling it, with no week off
Definitely looked like Kerry were feeling it with their 3rd game in 3 weeks compared to Tyrone who were playing their 4th game in 11 weeks. Paul Geaney I thought in the first half didn't look anywhere as sharp as he did against Armagh. There was a least 3 different incidents in the first half were he seemed off the pace of the game. I was very surprised he wasn't hooked at half-time.
Dylan Geaney hasn't kicked a wide all championship apparently.
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 08:58:49 PMDylan Geaney hasn't kicked a wide all championship apparently.
Neither have I ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 08:51:58 PMCahair mentions an incident where Kilpatrick fielded the ball and landed infield. I thought he landed with one foot either side of the line. Is there any formal language around the requirement of the player to land in the field of play in order to be awarded a mark?
There have been loads of incidents the last few years where a lad catches it but gets bundled over the line before getting his feet down and the ref has seemed to automatically give them the mark.
I dont think there's anything specific in the official rules but I've heard that the interpretation is that a players feet must be infield when he lands, to claim the mark. I don't know why that would be the case though. You'd think that as long as the ball is in play when the players feet touch the ground, that should be all that matters.
Quote from: OakLeaf on June 27, 2026, 09:08:04 PMQuote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 08:51:58 PMCahair mentions an incident where Kilpatrick fielded the ball and landed infield. I thought he landed with one foot either side of the line. Is there any formal language around the requirement of the player to land in the field of play in order to be awarded a mark?
There have been loads of incidents the last few years where a lad catches it but gets bundled over the line before getting his feet down and the ref has seemed to automatically give them the mark.
I dont think there's anything specific in the official rules but I've heard that the interpretation is that a players feet must be infield when he lands, to claim the mark. I don't know why that would be the case though. You'd think that as long as the ball is in play when the players feet touch the ground, that should be all that matters.
Could get all NFL into the details of "what is a catch?"! To me it's not as simple as it might seem. Probably need to define at what point a player has possession of the ball. Only at that point can they be awarded a mark.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:56:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:53:47 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:48:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
What's not correct? Calls the mark, is fouled and the ball is moved up, don't call the mark is fouled it's free from that position?
The ref can award the mark wether its claimed or not
The ref will blow the whistle for every mark, it's down to the player to make that signal
Quote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 09:13:34 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on June 27, 2026, 09:08:04 PMQuote from: gallsman on June 27, 2026, 08:51:58 PMCould get all NFL into the details of "what is a catch?"! To me it's not as simple as it might seem. Probably need to define at what point a player has possession of the ball. Only at that point can they be awarded a mark.
True. Being a modern day referee is not easy. As long as we don't introduce VAR!! 😀
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 09:14:28 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:56:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:53:47 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 07:48:15 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2026, 07:45:29 PMIt wasn't a mark, you have to claim the mark for it to be a mark
Thats not technically correct but sure you know that
What's not correct? Calls the mark, is fouled and the ball is moved up, don't call the mark is fouled it's free from that position?
The ref can award the mark wether its claimed or not
The ref will blow the whistle for every mark, it's down to the player to make that signal
Getting back to the original point. It can't be moved up wether claimed or not.
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 27, 2026, 08:15:43 PMAishling Reilly said 3 or 4 times Malachy O Rourke was in his first year as Tyrone manager. . Poor enough for someone covering Gaa.
Yes this is exactly the thing we should be talking about #priorities
Moving it forward was a mistake.
MOR yapping about the Ref a couple of times to date, safer holding his tongue on that one. Not the Ref's fault his umpire made a howler. Tyrone did just fine outa the ref imo.
From GAA.IE
Below is an outline of the draw details based on the remaining teams.
If Louth & Dublin win, they will join Mayo & Kerry in the Semi-Finals.
Repeat Pairings (1): Louth v Dublin
Draw Details: Due to the avoidance of repeat pairings, Mayo & Kerry will be drawn against Louth & Dublin.
Semi-Final Pairings:
• Mayo v Dublin / Louth
• Kerry v Dublin / Louth
If Louth & Galway win, they will join Mayo & Kerry in the Semi-Finals.
Repeat Pairings: None
Draw Details: As there are no repeat pairings, this will be an open draw between the four teams.
Semi-Final Pairings:
• TBC v TBC
• TBC v TBC
If Monaghan & Dublin win, they will join Mayo & Kerry in the Semi-Finals.
Repeat Pairings (1): Mayo v Monaghan
Draw Details: Due to the avoidance of repeat pairings, Mayo & Monaghan will be drawn against Kerry & Dublin.
Semi-Final Pairings:
• Mayo v Dublin / Kerry
• Monaghan v Dublin / Kerry
If Monaghan & Galway win, they will join Mayo & Kerry in the Semi-Finals.
Repeat Pairing (1): Mayo v Monaghan
Draw Details: Due to the avoidance of repeat pairings, Mayo & Monaghan will be drawn against Kerry & Galway.
Semi-Final Pairings:
• Mayo v Galway / Kerry
• Monaghan v Galway / Kerry
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 27, 2026, 09:31:12 PMMoving it forward was a mistake.
Mistake was moving it up then not moving it up when conn nearly got his head taken off.
Why are players subjected to hours of analysis before and after games but refs are never examined or called out. Disgraceful that incompetence isnt called out. Players and managers have to give post match interviews why cant the ref be interviewed.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2026, 09:32:58 PMMOR yapping about the Ref a couple of times to date, safer holding his tongue on that one. Not the Ref's fault his umpire made a howler. Tyrone did just fine outa the ref imo.
What did they do fine on? Ref incorrectly bringing up a kerry free for a 2 pointer, ref not bringing up a free for tyrone for a 2 pointer. Linesman incorrectly calling conn catch on side line as being out.
Paudie pulling down Teague and being allowed to play on.
Really struggling to see where tyrone done well out of the ref, umpire or linesman.
Surprised at Tyrone not trying for a 2-pointer at the end; left them dependent on getting possession from the kick-out
8 tyrone starters scored, 5 forwards[daly hit wide].
Tyrone 14 turnovers to Kerrys 5. They killed us on kickout retention.
As I said earlier in week you somehow need to steal a lead on Kerry, esp a tired kerry. We almost had it, flubbed the 2pt free & 45. Needed to force goal efforts 1st half. Those go over its 10-5.
Mcelholm maybe best off bench option for Jordan. Morgan surely should be hitting frees?
Enormous guts and just lacking a bit of polish. No Darragh robbed us off thay McCurry type threat we needed, dont think he has legs for 70.
Did not manage last ten well at all, kerry experience did tell..mckernans effort was ridiculous
Quote from: befair on June 27, 2026, 09:40:19 PMSurprised at Tyrone not trying for a 2-pointer at the end; left them dependent on getting possession from the kick-out
They did try to engineer one before they got their last point but it wasn't well enough planned. Teague surged forward and then got caught in two minds and ran into the tackle. He managed to get it inside into Seanie O'Donnell, I think, who had a handy one and he turned around and played it back out.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 09:36:11 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on June 27, 2026, 09:31:12 PMMoving it forward was a mistake.
Mistake was moving it up then not moving it up when conn nearly got his head taken off.
Why are players subjected to hours of analysis before and after games but refs are never examined or called out. Disgraceful that incompetence isnt called out. Players and managers have to give post match interviews why cant the ref be interviewed.
Would like to have seen BBC cover that game today as they have Maurice Deegan doing live interpretation but he is rarely too critical. Its innovative idea. We need a more symbiotic reffing team but jfc the umpire stuff is unforgivable.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 09:36:11 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on June 27, 2026, 09:31:12 PMMoving it forward was a mistake.
Mistake was moving it up then not moving it up when conn nearly got his head taken off.
Why are players subjected to hours of analysis before and after games but refs are never examined or called out. Disgraceful that incompetence isnt called out. Players and managers have to give post match interviews why cant the ref be interviewed.
The Kerry Mayo game in Limerick a few years ago, there was analysis of all the incorrect decisions ref made. All in Kerrys favour of course. When you see Dingle getting same treatment it's no coincidence.
No one wants to complain to avoid being called sore losers. So nothing happens and its rolls on to next year.
Winning of game was there and our lack of composure to win crucial ball was where Kerry won.
Id say they breathed some sigh of relief. Ferocious Tyrone performance, just sour taste at end.
Think we earned extra time at very least. Hope for next year!
Did Morgan not miss his only dead ball? A losing manager will always be called out on decisions that could have changed a result without evidence that doing something different would have been better. Morgan on frees earlier. McCurry in earlier or starting and D Clifford's marker will be the what ifs for Tyrone.
Kerry just deserved to win but their defence looked far too open to suggest they are unbeatable.
And the rules are far too complicated.
I thought Tyrone were excellent today. We got so much right but came up just short.
Hard luck to Tyrone, put in the performance I was hopeful Armagh could last week. A bit more clinical and they'd have had Kerry beat. Conn Kilpatrick is a super player.
Thought ref was shite for both teams, some difference in the first game. Soft p***k
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 09:39:30 PMQuote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2026, 09:32:58 PMMOR yapping about the Ref a couple of times to date, safer holding his tongue on that one. Not the Ref's fault his umpire made a howler. Tyrone did just fine outa the ref imo.
What did they do fine on? Ref incorrectly bringing up a kerry free for a 2 pointer, ref not bringing up a free for tyrone for a 2 pointer. Linesman incorrectly calling conn catch on side line as being out.
Paudie pulling down Teague and being allowed to play on.
Really struggling to see where tyrone done well out of the ref, umpire or linesman.
100% on all those.
Kerry the better team but got the rib of the green with decisions today.
Good effort by Tyrone. Malachy looked totally disappointed at the end. Kerry got a few dodge calls. Them's the breaks. Geaney was super for Kerry - the difference. McCorry excellent.
Mayo get one of the easiest routes to an AI semi-final. And could have Louth in their way to a final yet. Madness!
No way Mayo are a top 4 or maybe a top 8 team. But we'll take the experience if nothing else. It will all help with the learning curve.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 09:39:30 PMQuote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2026, 09:32:58 PMMOR yapping about the Ref a couple of times to date, safer holding his tongue on that one. Not the Ref's fault his umpire made a howler. Tyrone did just fine outa the ref imo.
What did they do fine on? Ref incorrectly bringing up a kerry free for a 2 pointer, ref not bringing up a free for tyrone for a 2 pointer. Linesman incorrectly calling conn catch on side line as being out.
Paudie pulling down Teague and being allowed to play on.
Really struggling to see where tyrone done well out of the ref, umpire or linesman.
Kerry probably should've had 2 penalties with kilpatrick getting a black card. Tyrone very unlucky not to get a free the time Teague caught the ball and seemed to be pulled down.
Tyrone's wides and Kerry's kickouts were the difference.
A lot of Tyrone's wides were a metre away. It felt ominous when McElholm's two-point effort drifted a metre wide just 30 seconds in because literally everything had to go over for Tyrone.
Quote from: lenny on June 27, 2026, 10:26:33 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 09:39:30 PMQuote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2026, 09:32:58 PMMOR yapping about the Ref a couple of times to date, safer holding his tongue on that one. Not the Ref's fault his umpire made a howler. Tyrone did just fine outa the ref imo.
What did they do fine on? Ref incorrectly bringing up a kerry free for a 2 pointer, ref not bringing up a free for tyrone for a 2 pointer. Linesman incorrectly calling conn catch on side line as being out.
Paudie pulling down Teague and being allowed to play on.
Really struggling to see where tyrone done well out of the ref, umpire or linesman.
Kerry probably should've had 2 penalties with kilpatrick getting a black card. Tyrone very unlucky not to get a free the time Teague caught the ball and seemed to be pulled down.
Yeah ref had a nightmare.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 10:32:31 PMTyrone's wides and Kerry's kickouts were the difference.
A lot of Tyrone's wides were a metre away. It felt ominous when McElholm's two-point effort drifted a metre wide just 30 seconds in because literally everything had to go over for Tyrone.
Felt as though Tyrone did rightly on the Kerry kickout? Maybe it was just a purple patch at one stage but Kerry were definitely on the ropes.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 10:33:56 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 10:32:31 PMTyrone's wides and Kerry's kickouts were the difference.
A lot of Tyrone's wides were a metre away. It felt ominous when McElholm's two-point effort drifted a metre wide just 30 seconds in because literally everything had to go over for Tyrone.
Felt as though Tyrone did rightly on the Kerry kickout? Maybe it was just a purple patch at one stage but Kerry were definitely on the ropes.
Tyrone were wiped out on Kerry kickouts.
Dylan Geaney attemps to scores stats in this year's Championship: 17/17
Quote from: blanketattack on June 27, 2026, 10:36:13 PMDylan Geaney attemps to scoring stats in this year's Championship: 17/17
Such an underrated player.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 10:36:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 10:33:56 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 10:32:31 PMTyrone's wides and Kerry's kickouts were the difference.
A lot of Tyrone's wides were a metre away. It felt ominous when McElholm's two-point effort drifted a metre wide just 30 seconds in because literally everything had to go over for Tyrone.
Felt as though Tyrone did rightly on the Kerry kickout? Maybe it was just a purple patch at one stage but Kerry were definitely on the ropes.
Tyrone were wiped out on Kerry kickouts.
Fair enough, definitely got a few maybe they just stood out. Kilpatrick was exceptional.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 10:37:16 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 27, 2026, 10:36:13 PMDylan Geaney attemps to scoring stats in this year's Championship: 17/17
Such an underrated player.
Unreal decision making to know when to shoot and when to pass.
Kerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Except for hammering them how many times since that 2021 game?
Moment of the day was D O'Connors mark he caught with McGeary in between him and the ball!
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 27, 2026, 10:36:04 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 10:33:56 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 10:32:31 PMTyrone's wides and Kerry's kickouts were the difference.
A lot of Tyrone's wides were a metre away. It felt ominous when McElholm's two-point effort drifted a metre wide just 30 seconds in because literally everything had to go over for Tyrone.
Felt as though Tyrone did rightly on the Kerry kickout? Maybe it was just a purple patch at one stage but Kerry were definitely on the ropes.
Tyrone were wiped out on Kerry kickouts.
From journalist Maurice Brosnan
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As was mentioned before the match on this thread the choice of Kerry starting 4 natural midfielders is getting its rewards and something others should mirror?
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Not sure what you're trying to say. Kerry won.
Dont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
Only real mistake was not going for broke first half to establish a lead plus the Clifford job was poor as it often is.
Not cynical or nasty enough either. Kerry were on the ropes yet always have that threat. Sean O Sheas wide felt like it could swing our way & it seemed we froze around 60m mark ran out of ideas as Kerry scooped serious ball unmarked.
Read a Kerryman say if it happened them [45 call]hed be going Salman Rushdie! Strange times. Neutrals cheering Dubs and Tyrone 🤣
Ideally I want Spillane with steam coming out his ears.
If McCurry didnt come on, What would the score been!!
On the Kerry one where the ball is moved did the ref signal the mark or did he signal a free kick for a push before the mark was made? It looks and sounds like the hand goes up and the whistle goes just before the mark. If it was a free he was correct to move it otherwise he wasn't
Still think playing D O'Connor wing forward and not direct replacement for O'Brien takes away from his play. Its the 1 change i make in the Kerry team and bring in O'Shea when he fully fit,C Geaney not on the panel any more?
Quote from: David McKeown on June 27, 2026, 11:58:14 PMOn the Kerry one where the ball is moved did the ref signal the mark or did he signal a free kick for a push before the mark was made? It looks and sounds like the hand goes up and the whistle goes just before the mark. If it was a free he was correct to move it otherwise he wasn't
O'Shea tries to solo and go, which would suggest a free.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
This is really, really sad. Nothing about the drag back on Joe O'Connor, for example?
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
Just in from croker.
I knew we were fcuked when Paudie Clifford wanted to give us a free and the referee wouldn't.
He thinks Kilpatrick should have got a mark for catching the ball and landing with one foot over the sideline.
He hasn't said anything about the one where Kilpatrick got a free because the ref felt sorry for him after the dreadful ball Morgan gave out to him.
Quote from: marty34 on June 27, 2026, 11:40:58 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Not sure what you're trying to say. Kerry won.
I'm saying they were easily the better team but struggled to get over the line.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 11:23:06 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Except for hammering them how many times since that 2021 game?
Once??
Kerry are easily the better team than Tyrone since (and including) 2021. There's something there that stops them from playing the way they can I think. Kerry were 10points better today yet there was a point in it before the goal last kick of the game!
Highlights up.
Tbh I got the dread when I heard White was starting...him being absent would have been big adn everything had to go our way. Robbed of a potential Tyrone Galway Final
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j_R5JjxZax8&pp=ygUMVHlyb25lIGtlcnJ5
A side point, but saw today how possession at the kickout dominates the game for the next (say) 2 minutes. It shouldn't be that important, but county players rarely lose the ball these days once they have it. As a supporter, you know your defenders just won't get the ball and it's all come from winning the prior kickout.
A shot clock is a possible solution or making players kick the ball when they win that primary possession.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2026, 11:56:36 PMIf McCurry didnt come on, What would the score been!!
Yep.
On the same note, if David Clifford hadn't been born, what would the score have been!!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
I'd be thinking that unless an umpire is definitively clear that there was touch, he should signal a wide. You know, don't try to influence the game when your purpose is neutrality.
He of course might have seen something from his angle that made it look like a touch.
But personally I'd prefer it if umpires raised their shoulders than their hands if in doubt.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 28, 2026, 12:36:23 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2026, 11:56:36 PMIf McCurry didnt come on, What would the score been!!
Yep.
On the same note, if David Clifford hadn't been born, what would the score have been!!
Glob of deep heat. Rub it in his eyes. Of course we will probably learn hes blind as a bat and uses sonar to navigate
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2026, 11:56:36 PMIf McCurry didnt come on, What would the score been!!
A Tyrone man comes on and plays for Tyrone lord knows.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
BAN THE FISTED POINT. One of the most unsatisfying anticlimactic moves in our game.
Clifford obv told to go for them...he used to just go for goal.
Did not get today but will be at HQ to see the biggest game of the year
Louth V Monaghan. Could be a real classic
Quote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 12:08:08 AMQuote from: marty34 on June 27, 2026, 11:40:58 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Not sure what you're trying to say. Kerry won.
I'm saying they were easily the better team but struggled to get over the line.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 11:23:06 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Except for hammering them how many times since that 2021 game?
Once??
Kerry are easily the better team than Tyrone since (and including) 2021. There's something there that stops them from playing the way they can I think. Kerry were 10points better today yet there was a point in it before the goal last kick of the game!
You've had most of the summer and thats the best you can come up with!? 10 points better!? You're having a giraffe. :D
Kerry's willingness and ability to kick the ball is a joy to watch and it's what sets them apart from the other teams...........
Quote from: ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight on June 28, 2026, 02:26:34 AMBAN THE FISTED POINT. One of the most unsatisfying anticlimactic moves in our game.
100% agree. It missed the cut in the last round of changes.
Quote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 12:08:08 AMQuote from: marty34 on June 27, 2026, 11:40:58 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Not sure what you're trying to say. Kerry won.
I'm saying they were easily the better team but struggled to get over the line.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2026, 11:23:06 PMQuote from: screenexile on June 27, 2026, 11:02:25 PMKerry just seem to have a mental block against Tyrone... easily the better team but just kept shitting themselves!!
Except for hammering them how many times since that 2021 game?
Once??
Kerry are easily the better team than Tyrone since (and including) 2021. There's something there that stops them from playing the way they can I think. Kerry were 10points better today yet there was a point in it before the goal last kick of the game!
2023 and 2025 no?
Anyway Tyrone were full value yesterday and if they'd been clinical or had a couple of decision go their way could very easily have won the game.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Quote from: Angus MacGyver on June 28, 2026, 07:45:57 AMQuote from: ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight on June 28, 2026, 02:26:34 AMBAN THE FISTED POINT. One of the most unsatisfying anticlimactic moves in our game.
100% agree. It missed the cut in the last round of changes.
Naturally unless like a goal scored from the hand it's from a volley.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
Quote from: gallsman on June 28, 2026, 12:01:20 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 27, 2026, 11:58:14 PMOn the Kerry one where the ball is moved did the ref signal the mark or did he signal a free kick for a push before the mark was made? It looks and sounds like the hand goes up and the whistle goes just before the mark. If it was a free he was correct to move it otherwise he wasn't
O'Shea tries to solo and go, which would suggest a free.
Perspectives are interesting as I can't see anything other than an attempt to kick pass the ball to the free Kerry player just ahead of him.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
So, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
I am wondering how Dublin and Monaghan will cope with the three games in three weeks thing.
I definitely think it contributed to both games being closer on the scoreboard yesterday. I thought both Mayo and Kerry backs seemed just that second slow to close down shooting chances. I thought Kerry's defence also seemed to be slow to cover the switch ball across the arc with Tyrone catching them a couple of times with this to create scoring chances. Mayo really were super fortunate that Cork's players were so poor with the key stat from the Mayo Cork game being Cork 35 shots 16 scores and from play 29 shots 11 scored. A 37% conversion rate from play says it all about the Cork performance. The problem for Mayo going forward is that the chances of any other opposition missing 18 chances from play is pretty much close to zero.
Another thing from the Cork Mayo stats is that Cork only got 2 2 point scores (both from frees) compared to Cork scoring 6 against Donegal and Meath. That's an 8 points swing which is a massive difference on the scoreboard.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
I think my issue is that I have a real problem when games turn and/or are decided on officials making mistakes on the rules which have seen both happen and nearly happen a number of times this year. If the referee gave a mark and moved it forward I have a real issue with that because it's unarguably wrong and something that should not happen. There's no interpretation to that it's simply wrong.
If on the other hand he gave the free (incorrectly in my opinion) but correctly moved it forward I am far less annoyed because ultimately the decision to award the free is open to interpretation and the ref gets one chance to look at it in real time from a different angle than I do. So my interpretation of whether it was correct or incorrect is largely irrelevant.
My issue is we don't know and probably won't ever because after the fact it's very easy to say that was moved because I blew for a foul.
I also don't think referees get enough help from a number of different underlying issues within the association but that's maybe a debate for a different topic.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
If it's deemed to be delaying the game the ref can take it forward 50m from a mark.
Not sure why Kilpatricks wasn't moved up as well though.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:56:31 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
I think my issue is that I have a real problem when games turn and/or are decided on officials making mistakes on the rules which have seen both happen and nearly happen a number of times this year. If the referee gave a mark and moved it forward I have a real issue with that because it's unarguably wrong and something that should not happen. There's no interpretation to that it's simply wrong.
If on the other hand he gave the free (incorrectly in my opinion) but correctly moved it forward I am far less annoyed because ultimately the decision to award the free is open to interpretation and the ref gets one chance to look at it in real time from a different angle than I do. So my interpretation of whether it was correct or incorrect is largely irrelevant.
My issue is we don't know and probably won't ever because after the fact it's very easy to say that was moved because I blew for a foul.
I also don't think referees get enough help from a number of different underlying issues within the association but that's maybe a debate for a different topic.
I watched it back on gaaplus there. The only arm movement I could find from the ref is after Kilpatrick impedes the kicking action. Unless theres another angle somewhere else I still believe it to be a huge mistake from the referee.
Quote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 09:59:59 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
If it's deemed to be delaying the game the ref can take it forward 50m from a mark.
Not sure why Kilpatricks wasn't moved up as well though.
Because thats no longer the rules. Neither should have been brought up. Its irrelevant if the mark has been claimed or not. It simply changes if from a mark to a free kick from that position.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
Nobody to blame but ourselves anyway. Yes you need those decisions to go for you but Conn giving away 2 points to Clifford, not laying a hand on Kerry for their kickouts and missing those chances is what killed us
Is there a difference in penalty between when a foul occurs within 4m of the mark rather than just preventing the taking of the mark by what would be an otherwise lawful challenge?
I can't seem to find a definitive answer from the rule book but that's hardly a surprise
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 10:38:00 AMIs there a difference in penalty between when a foul occurs within 4m of the mark rather than just preventing the taking of the mark by what would be an otherwise lawful challenge?
I can't seem to find a definitive answer from the rule book but that's hardly a surprise
No its still treated as the same play of the game. Blocking the attempt at a kick or immediately tackling within the 4m changes a mark to a free kick.
Rule 5.42 states:
Notwithstanding any other provision in these Rules, where a foul is committed for the purpose of delaying play, the penalty shall, (in addition to being cautioned or ordered off, where appropriate) be a free kick 50m more advantageous than the position where the foul occurred – up to the opponent's 13m line
Might that be why?
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:31:14 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
You can never discount the evidence of the invisible infraction :o However the ref clearly blew his whistle to acknowledge the clean mark, was watching the play develop, observed the dunt into the back of the Kerry player, blew the whistle again immediately and only then did he indicate to bring the ball forward and all to the great approval of the match commentator.
The umpire in question is a man well into his 60s. Its farcical and everyone knows it. Visual acuity, mobility and age are not good bedfellows, and Tyrone should be demanding an independent optical/medical assessment be carried out immediately.
"Be grand" is not good enough any more in context of incredible efforts made by players /mgmt to get to the pinnacle of their sport.
The stakes are too high now for a "wee day out" for the refs mates.
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:31:14 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
You can never discount the evidence of the invisible infraction :o However the ref clearly blew his whistle to acknowledge the clean mark, was watching the play develop, observed the dunt into the back of the Kerry player, blew the whistle again immediately and only then did he indicate to bring the ball forward and all to the great approval of the match commentator.
It's a wonderful playbook David is reading from in his attempts to exonerate the referee. Muddy the waters, focus on a lesser charge of giving a non-existent free. I wonder his line of work.
Despite all that, anyone with a titter of wit will recognise that the ref made a mistake of moving a mark forward 50m.
(https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/v2/K4U57NWW6UBENDW2MWPQSYXHXQ.jpg?auth=4fc632618706567639afe446c63d71c2bcf0cf42c2329c31bac1ef68598233d4&smart=true&width=1600&height=1182)
Beggan out. Expected Louth to edge this but huge advantage now.
Starting to come around to MR2 way of thinking here. Don't think there's a need to slate an umpire and ref for something like that when in real time it's near impossible to tell. Our lads made more mistakes than the ref or umpire did
No Beggan for Monaghan no party?
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 28, 2026, 01:30:49 PMStarting to come around to MR2 way of thinking here. Don't think there's a need to slate an umpire and ref for something like that when in real time it's near impossible to tell. Our lads made more mistakes than the ref or umpire did
It's a wide unless the umpire sees something else to the contrary. On the ref, the least that can be expected is he knows the rules, his decision making re fouls etc is another thing altogether.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 12:03:19 PMThe umpire in question is a man well into his 60s. Its farcical and everyone knows it. Visual acuity, mobility and age are not good bedfellows, and Tyrone should be demanding an independent optical/medical assessment be carried out immediately.
"Be grand" is not good enough any more in context of incredible efforts made by players /mgmt to get to the pinnacle of their sport.
The stakes are too high now for a "wee day out" for the refs mates.
Could be wrong, but this might be a first for the board re excuses 👏
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 28, 2026, 01:30:49 PMStarting to come around to MR2 way of thinking here. Don't think there's a need to slate an umpire and ref for something like that when in real time it's near impossible to tell. Our lads made more mistakes than the ref or umpire did
Nothing wrong with mistakes, the question is why the fk are pensioners put in this position to start with.
Tomas O'Se said we are right to feel hard done by FWIW.
Expect nothing will be done as GAA take high standards players uphold for granted.
Sean Hurson issues red card. Massive for Monaghan, silly by Louth.
Louth red after 6 minutes. Party on for Monaghan again.
Well that's this match over
No doubt about that one ridiculously stupid from the Louth player!
Probably a red, thought the Monaghan player was starting to fall forward, when he was hit, but no point in that tackle, ball was gone.Makes the rest of the game a balls though.
Ooof. Need to see another angle but looked like he got smashed in the head alright.
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 01:44:10 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on June 28, 2026, 01:30:49 PMStarting to come around to MR2 way of thinking here. Don't think there's a need to slate an umpire and ref for something like that when in real time it's near impossible to tell. Our lads made more mistakes than the ref or umpire did
It's a wide unless the umpire sees something else to the contrary. On the ref, the least that can be expected is he knows the rules, his decision making re fouls etc is another thing altogether.
There was a defensive Tyrone touch though no, before the Kerry lad swiped at it again and tied it wide? Whatever he saw he was dreadfully positioned for it.
Anyone got a link for it? It's not in the highlights package.
Tried to lob him there!
I seen that Louth 6 a few times earlier in the year. A fair player.
4th or 5th best team in Ulster could end up in the AI final thanks to handy draws.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 28, 2026, 02:02:04 PM4th or 5th best team in Ulster could end up in the AI final thanks to handy draws.
If this does happen, you mean the best team in Ulster
After 20 minutes Louth 0-6 Monaghan 0-6. Louth doing well so far with 14 men but hanging in there for 64 minutes is a tall order.
Red card. Probably right call to letter of law , bit like Tadgh Kennelly hit.
Very dangerous and utterly stupid play. Will take herculean effort for Louth you would imagine.
https://nitter.net/TheSundayGame/status/2071216647684202777#m
Hurson favouring Monaghan.
O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.
Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball. Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 10:05:10 AMQuote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 09:59:59 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
If it's deemed to be delaying the game the ref can take it forward 50m from a mark.
Not sure why Kilpatricks wasn't moved up as well though.
Because thats no longer the rules. Neither should have been brought up. Its irrelevant if the mark has been claimed or not. It simply changes if from a mark to a free kick from that position.
Here is the rule:
4.16 (a) For an opposing player to be less than 13m from the ball before a free kick or a sideline kick is
taken, except where the free kick is being taken immediately, with the Referee's consent, or by
means of a Solo and Go.
Penalty - Free kick 13m more advantageous than place of original kick - up to opponents' 13m line.
(b) In the case of a Free Kick awarded for a Mark:
(i) For an opposing Player not retreating 13m to allow space for the kick to be taken, to
deliberately block or attempt to block the kick within 13m, or to impede the free taker
when the player is taking the kick.
Penalty - Free kick 50m more advantageous than place of original free kick up to the opponents
13m line.
In the case of a Kick-Out Mark, the player taking the free may choose to take the free kick from
outside the 40m arc though the application of this Rule would otherwise result in a free kick from
inside the 40m arc.
(ii) For a player awarded a Mark to delay longer than 15 seconds to take the kick.
Penalty - Cancel the Mark and award a free kick to opponents.
(c) In the case of a Player awarded a Kick-Out Mark opting to play on immediately:
For the Player to be illegally challenged, within four metres of the position from where the Kick-Out Mark is
made.
Penalty -A free kick from where the foul occurred.
He's moved back towards Louth yer man took 10 steps there before he wa fouled and it was a few in!
That's ridiculous from O'Hanlon lol. Serious pace there
Some 2 pointer there
Monaghan have not been able to cope with the extra man it's like they've never prepared for it.
Fair play to Louth they're excellent in midfield and getting plenty of ball and shots off.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 28, 2026, 02:26:07 PMSome 2 pointer there
And the timing of it. Half time Louth 0-12 Monaghan 1-7
Louth have been excellent with their 14 against 16.
Why u using the name Oakleaf? U obviously not a Derry man, to take u tine to type all that crap out! Now if u dont mind, theres another game going on!!
Is the Monaghan 2nd keeper injured?
Quote from: OakLeaf on June 28, 2026, 02:20:17 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 10:05:10 AMQuote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 09:59:59 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.
If it's deemed to be delaying the game the ref can take it forward 50m from a mark.
Not sure why Kilpatricks wasn't moved up as well though.
Because thats no longer the rules. Neither should have been brought up. Its irrelevant if the mark has been claimed or not. It simply changes if from a mark to a free kick from that position.
Here is the rule:
4.16 (a) For an opposing player to be less than 13m from the ball before a free kick or a sideline kick is
taken, except where the free kick is being taken immediately, with the Referee's consent, or by
means of a Solo and Go.
Penalty - Free kick 13m more advantageous than place of original kick - up to opponents' 13m line.
(b) In the case of a Free Kick awarded for a Mark:
(i) For an opposing Player not retreating 13m to allow space for the kick to be taken, to
deliberately block or attempt to block the kick within 13m, or to impede the free taker
when the player is taking the kick.
Penalty - Free kick 50m more advantageous than place of original free kick up to the opponents
13m line.
In the case of a Kick-Out Mark, the player taking the free may choose to take the free kick from
outside the 40m arc though the application of this Rule would otherwise result in a free kick from
inside the 40m arc.
(ii) For a player awarded a Mark to delay longer than 15 seconds to take the kick.
Penalty - Cancel the Mark and award a free kick to opponents.
(c) In the case of a Player awarded a Kick-Out Mark opting to play on immediately:
For the Player to be illegally challenged, within four metres of the position from where the Kick-Out Mark is
made.
Penalty -A free kick from where the foul occurred.
I suspect ball was brought forward for the delay foul as was detailed in the IT article about David Gough last week.
QuoteThe Irish Times
The 'delay foul' was one of the recommendations tabled by the FRC. It deals with tactical fouling for deliberately delaying or impeding play. The penalty is a free 50 metres more advantageous from where the foul occurred.
Then, with five minutes remaining and the game tied, Cork win possession and set off on a rapid counterattack.
Caolan McColgan tries to chase down Ruairí Deane, but just as the Cork player crosses the 65-metre line, his Donegal pursuer cuts across from behind and barrels him to the ground. Gough blows the whistle. Delay foul. It's a mirror of the clips we had watched back in Slane several hours earlier.
Gough signals the ball will be brought forward 50 metres. Some aggrieved Donegal players question the call. Gough responds, "Delay foul, rule 5.42." The players back off. Nothing more is said. Cork opt to move the ball back outside the arc for a two-pointer, which Steven Sherlock converts. It ends up as the match-winning score.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/20/a-day-in-the-life-with-david-gough-ill-do-it-as-long-as-im-contributing-to-the-games/
I wasn't aware of it before I read that article but seems like it's something the refs are looking at since he was watching examples of it before the game.
Quote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:14:35 PMHurson favouring Monaghan.
O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.
Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball. Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.
Slow mo of red is better angle and looks less malicious. Most refs would have given yellow/black for blocking runner.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:14:35 PMHurson favouring Monaghan.
O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.
Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball. Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.
Slow mo of red is better angle and looks less malicious. Most refs would have given yellow/black for blocking runner.
No way he jumped into the tackle and his shoulder hit him on the head it's nailed on!
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 02:33:13 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:14:35 PMHurson favouring Monaghan.
O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.
Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball. Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.
Slow mo of red is better angle and looks less malicious. Most refs would have given yellow/black for blocking runner.
100%. It's a normal block the runner. No Monaghan player complained at all.
Yellow or black would have sufficed.
Its a shoulder to the head!
Is that Ronan O'Neill in with Louth?
Presume he's a forward's coach.
RON is with louth yeah
Grimes is some animal, one handed catch and they look like they will put up a fight. Much depends on MGMT
Hurson gives Monaghan another handy free.
Quote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:44:09 PMIs that Ronan O'Neill in with Louth?
Presume he's a forward's coach.
Does he still play club football?
Hurson telling all the subs coming on to take the gum shield out of their sock and back in their mouth.
Quote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:48:36 PMQuote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:44:09 PMIs that Ronan O'Neill in with Louth?
Presume he's a forward's coach.
Does he still play club football?
Yep still with the club
Do Louth not know how to tackle!
Monaghans tactic of letting Louth run up the middle of their defence and score without tackling them is a strange one..
After 49 minutes this is some effort by 14 man Louth. 0-20 to 1-12.
Louth putting on brave display but need more of lead for final 15.
20 to 15 49th minute.
Had tipped them but feel Monaghan s extra energy will tell in finish
A long time since I've seen a team cope as poorly with an extra man as this!!
Quote from: Mourne Red on June 28, 2026, 02:46:00 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 01:59:13 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on June 28, 2026, 01:55:52 PMWell that's this match over
A board classic
Ohh an absolute swing and a miss from myself
Begganless Monaghan v 14 man Louth, pretty even. Should be some finish to this game
Big hitters on both sides motoring well
Goal for Monaghan. Level game on 53 mins. Big goal chance for Louth now not taken.
Weak goalkeeping!
OHanlons B Balling came in handy. Turning point came faster than expected.
Louth crossbar cruel
The 16 men of Ulster getting on top you'd think
Chasing the game makes the task even tougher for Louth with 14 men since the 6th minute
Dara McDonnell having an all star season.
Quote from: SCFC on June 28, 2026, 03:08:18 PMThe 16 men of Ulster getting on top you'd think
Ah, you're from the partitionist hotbed of Laois, makes sense.
That lad Byrne can fair catch a ball.
A cracking game
After 60 minutes Monaghan 2-16 Louth 0-22
Fair play to horse devlin, never really rated him but hes getting some tune out of louth.
Bit early, goes to extra time bck to 15
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 28, 2026, 03:13:16 PMBit early, goes to extra time bck to 15
No. That had been changed.
Yip, u right,stand corrected, forgot!
Thats a shocking call for a free on Mulroy! Again...
Quote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 03:11:44 PMQuote from: SCFC on June 28, 2026, 03:08:18 PMThe 16 men of Ulster getting on top you'd think
Ah, you're from the partitionist hotbed of Laois, makes sense.
Ooh. Touchy.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 28, 2026, 03:15:26 PMThats a shocking call for a free on Mulroy! Again...
No it wasn't
Wow...big 2 pt free call. Clipped ankles.
Monaghan not taking bull by horns
Justice.
Two pointer free for Louth goes wide. Remains level 63 minutes played.
Monaghan one up with 4 minutes to play.
Level again 3 minutes left
Serious game of football
Louth alot of size around Midfield, the early sending off, starting to catch up with them.
Another shocking call.
I like Hurson. Generally a very good ref. For some reason he's killing Louth today.
The last 4 minutes will be tense
Hurson has been riding Monaghan this half how was that a free??
Lol how was that a free for Louth? There wasn't a foul to be seen
Quote from: SCFC on June 28, 2026, 03:20:39 PMI like Hurson. Generally a very good ref. For some reason he's killing Louth today.
He gave them a feee one which resulted in a score
Louth lead by one 68 minutes played.
Quote from: SCFC on June 28, 2026, 03:20:39 PMI like Hurson. Generally a very good ref. For some reason he's killing Louth today.
The bad calls have probably evened up at this stage.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 03:15:59 PMWow...big 2 pt free call. Clipped ankles.
Monaghan not taking bull by horns
Carpe diem Louth...
Byrne turned the tide!
Where is Monaghans free man?
Louth lead by 3 what a performance.
Kickouts have killed them here. Beggan probably the most important player for any team
They should be winning every kick out with extra man
Fair do's to them, a performance for the age's.
Full-time Louth 0-27 Monaghan 2-18.
Incredible dip from Mulroy and even better score from Ciaran Byrne, who has been absolutely brilliant.
Louth have been superb.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 03:23:08 PMWhere is Monaghans free man?
No use if the keeper is kicking the ball to a man in red
Louth a very good team, better than most people think.
Amazing Louth
Fair play to Louth, no longer a "wee county"
Unbelievable performance from Louth. What a game!
Heroic.
Well done Louth....monaghan will be sick but missing the Talisman Beggan was crippling. Man down as well.
Monaghan are allergic to Croker
What was wrong with Beggan?
You ever wonder sometimes is your name on the cup....
Another excellent game. Brilliant football championship. Congratulations to Louth.
A Louth v Mayo semi would be some reward for both.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 03:27:11 PMWhat was wrong with Beggan?
Had his quad heavily strapped the last day and was replaced with 5 minutes to go
Devlin seems to be a savage operator.
That was brilliant possibly one of the best games I've ever watched phenomenal!
Monaghan will be absolutely sick they could and should have won that but Louth just kept winning the ball in the middle of the field!
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 03:26:35 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 03:15:05 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 03:14:12 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 28, 2026, 03:13:16 PMBit early, goes to extra time bck to 15
No. That had been changed.
Someone has swallowed a rules book :D
Maybe you could do with spending a bit more time with one
When the rules change every week it's hard to stay up..
Go on the Wee County
Leinster > Ulster
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 03:27:11 PMWhat was wrong with Beggan?
Groin issue picked up last week I think
McDonnell is some boyo. MOTM
Dara McDonnell deservedly wins MOTM. An outstanding young footballer.
Well done to Louth, what a result. Fear no one in the semis either!
So if Dublin win they can't meet Louth, other than that it's an open draw?
Quote from: laoislad on June 28, 2026, 03:28:43 PMGo on the Wee County
Leinster > Ulster
Louth originally an Ulster county well still claim there's an Ulster team in the AI 👀
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 03:29:27 PMMcDonnell is some boyo. MOTM
Won't be any diesel laundered in louth tomorrow
No Ulster team reaches semi finals. That was hardly expected even two weeks ago
Quote from: Mourne Red on June 28, 2026, 03:31:42 PMQuote from: laoislad on June 28, 2026, 03:28:43 PMGo on the Wee County
Leinster > Ulster
Louth originally an Ulster county well still claim there's an Ulster team in the AI 👀
90 minutes ago you had them out !!
Unbelievable stuff by Louth and all the best to them in the semi-final a great underdog story.
As for Monaghan would have been cocky with the draw and even more cocky with Louth down to 14 men from the 6th minute however they got what they deserved out of that game today.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 28, 2026, 03:32:48 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on June 28, 2026, 03:31:42 PMQuote from: laoislad on June 28, 2026, 03:28:43 PMGo on the Wee County
Leinster > Ulster
Louth originally an Ulster county well still claim there's an Ulster team in the AI 👀
90 minutes ago you had them out !!
I did and said I had a mare there.. Reds usually kill the game now with current rules but Louth have proved to be the exception. Delighted for them.
Good on Louth. A victory done the hard way.
Louth left Ulster same time Longford left Connacht. That was good period for Leinster.
I make that another county that have made an all Ireland semi final since Roscommon last made one.
Think thats 21 or 22 out of 32 counties now.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 28, 2026, 03:36:02 PMGood on Louth. A victory done the hard way.
Louth left Ulster same time Longford left Connacht. That was good period for Leinster.
Cavan was also a connacht county one time too but not sure when they left.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 03:33:09 PMUnbelievable stuff by Louth and all the best to them in the semi-final a great underdog story.
As for Monaghan would have been cocky with the draw and even more cocky with Louth down to 14 men from the 6th minute however they got what they deserved out of that game today.
Aye definitely, knowing Beggan was more than likely to miss the game due to a dead leg the cockiness was hanging out of them alright
Cavan wouldn't pay their dues!
Great performance by Louth.
A county like Derry should have a look at Devlin as a coach...
Quote from: ElJeffe on June 21, 2026, 05:42:14 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 21, 2026, 05:37:11 PMBeggan obviously injured there. Didn't take a 45 10 minutes ago. Their 1/4 final hopes reduced greatly if he doesn't make it.
Very sensationalist post.
And so it did. . .
Quote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 03:39:31 PMWouldn't pay their dues!
Great performance by Louth.
Good man 😅
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 28, 2026, 03:36:02 PMGood on Louth. A victory done the hard way.
Louth left Ulster same time Longford left Connacht. That was good period for Leinster.
Sure the villlage I grew up in was part of Kilkenny until the late 1800s... I could have been Kilkennylad
Shocking mismanagement of extra man but Horse Devlin similar to RG style of roaring the side on. Players love him
Quote from: laoislad on June 28, 2026, 03:40:20 PMQuote from: Shamrock Shore on June 28, 2026, 03:36:02 PMGood on Louth. A victory done the hard way.
Louth left Ulster same time Longford left Connacht. That was good period for Leinster.
Sure the villlage I grew up in was part of Kilkenny until the late 1800s... I could have been Kilkennylad
kilkennykid
You'd have to wonder if the Ulster Championship is so competitive that it becomes more difficult to play outside of it. I'd have had three Ulster teams as potential favourites, and after all the hard slog in the Ulster Championship it will be the other three provinces providing the semi finalists.
Sounds like Hurson rode everyone. Typical Galbally man.
Obviously our men didn't have a great year, but it's been some championship to watch
I thought that game was absolutely shíte
Quote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 03:45:34 PMObviously our men didn't have a great year, but it's been some championship to watch
I can't remember a better one.
McManus really trying to hammer home the absence of Beggan. Comes across as extremely bitter.
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 03:25:26 PMFair play to Louth, no longer a "wee county"
Why , did they sieze parts of Meath or Monaghan during the week?
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on June 28, 2026, 03:45:06 PMYou'd have to wonder if the Ulster Championship is so competitive that it becomes more difficult to play outside of it. I'd have had three Ulster teams as potential favourites, and after all the hard slog in the Ulster Championship it will be the other three provinces providing the semi finalists.
Donegal and Tyrone didn't wear themselves out in it this year.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 03:47:04 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 03:45:34 PMObviously our men didn't have a great year, but it's been some championship to watch
I can't remember a better one.
Unbelievable. Some great stories and games so far. 2 excellent quarter finals, 1 not great but competitive at least.
Fantastic performance by Louth. Just went for it after the sending off. Stayed in the game, hung in there for the 10 mins after it and got that big 2 pointer right on half-time.
Again steadied the ship after O'Hanlon's goal. Just hung in there. Deserved the win. Got a huge boost off the bench. Brought great energy when needed.
Every player a hero, none moreso than big Mc Donnell and Mulroy.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 28, 2026, 03:48:22 PMMcManus really trying to hammer home the absence of Beggan. Comes across as extremely bitter.
It's an absolutely enormous factor. Didn't seem bitter to me but would be silly not to mention it.
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on June 28, 2026, 03:45:06 PMYou'd have to wonder if the Ulster Championship is so competitive that it becomes more difficult to play outside of it. I'd have had three Ulster teams as potential favourites, and after all the hard slog in the Ulster Championship it will be the other three provinces providing the semi finalists.
I would like to play All Ireland series first for one year for fun. Random draw, backdoor.
Then play provincials after.
Phenomenal performance from Louth.
Aside from Sam Mulroy's wide from a 2-point free did they kick any other wide in 2nd half ?
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 27, 2026, 08:54:41 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on June 27, 2026, 08:36:00 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on June 27, 2026, 08:27:14 PMDavid Clifford was quiet enough in the final third of the game. Banning the fisted points would knock a few points off his total.
You would think some of the Kerry players were feeling it, with no week off
Definitely looked like Kerry were feeling it with their 3rd game in 3 weeks compared to Tyrone who were playing their 4th game in 11 weeks. Paul Geaney I thought in the first half didn't look anywhere as sharp as he did against Armagh. There was a least 3 different incidents in the first half were he seemed off the pace of the game. I was very surprised he wasn't hooked at half-time.
I thought it was Tyrone's third game in five weeks and Kerry's fourth. ? Only catching up at minute.
Galway 2 changes, injuries or tactical?
Nice touch here in memory of Paul Clancy. Reminds me of the Ireland 8 formation against the ABs for Axel Foley.
Emotional day for Galway, hopefully it'll help, not hinder them.
Dublin will be a handful. Conn looks like he will play a role, had cramp last day.
Sean Kelly starts on bench. Molloy in.
David Gough to show the rest how its done... off we go!
That's a fair slap in the mouth for Monaghan, who actually played ok but there was just no living with that Louth outfit there today. They just refused to lose. Unreal fielding at times and incredible, dead-eyed efficiency once they got a sniff of the posts at all.
Both counties can look forward to good years ahead, and offer a great lesson to Cavan on replacing rhetoric with results - Louth, in particular, whose rise over the last five years is a template for underdog counties everywhere.
Quote from: ONeill on June 28, 2026, 03:45:17 PMSounds like Hurson rode everyone. Typical Galbally man.
He didn't ride Horse though
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:31:14 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
You can never discount the evidence of the invisible infraction :o However the ref clearly blew his whistle to acknowledge the clean mark, was watching the play develop, observed the dunt into the back of the Kerry player, blew the whistle again immediately and only then did he indicate to bring the ball forward and all to the great approval of the match commentator.
Hardly an invisible infraction. Marc O Shea is is jostled by two Tyrone players then pulled by one and ends up on the ground, in my opinion not enough for free kick but hard to know what angle the ref has. You cant see the referee in the picture on the angle on the tv and in the other angle that I referred to earlier you cant really see O'Shea as the referees looks like its starting to go towards the Davinn end goals but its not clear if its for the mark or the free. Is there another angle to show this clear blow to acknowledge the mark?
Ok - it's an old hobby horse of mine, but is there a worse commentary team than Canning and Fitzmaurice.
I tried muting the tv and listening to the radio but the pictures are too far behind to enjoy.
Incredible two pointer from Finnerty. Standing shot
Early indicators from Dublin suggesting this will be another excellent quarter-final. The football championship has been blessed this year.
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 10:46:09 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 10:38:00 AMIs there a difference in penalty between when a foul occurs within 4m of the mark rather than just preventing the taking of the mark by what would be an otherwise lawful challenge?
I can't seem to find a definitive answer from the rule book but that's hardly a surprise
No its still treated as the same play of the game. Blocking the attempt at a kick or immediately tackling within the 4m changes a mark to a free kick.
Sorry that's not what I asked, what I asked was is there a difference between blocking the kick/tackling after the mark and committing a second foul i.e. something that would be a foul even it wasnt committed within 4m of a mark for example pulling down the player. Does the fact its within 4m AND a separate foul change the penalty over something that was only a foul because it came after the mark.
Christ, Niall Scully taking on a shot. The Dubs fancy themselves alright.
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on June 28, 2026, 03:57:03 PMPhenomenal performance from Louth.
Aside from Sam Mulroy's wide from a 2-point free did they kick any other wide in 2nd half ?
Durnin had a wild hoof that went well wide, but that was it - i think they only had 2 wides the whole game
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 04:12:06 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:31:14 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
You can never discount the evidence of the invisible infraction :o However the ref clearly blew his whistle to acknowledge the clean mark, was watching the play develop, observed the dunt into the back of the Kerry player, blew the whistle again immediately and only then did he indicate to bring the ball forward and all to the great approval of the match commentator.
Hardly an invisible infraction. Marc O Shea is is jostled by two Tyrone players then pulled by one and ends up on the ground, in my opinion not enough for free kick but hard to know what angle the ref has. You cant see the referee in the picture on the angle on the tv and in the other angle that I referred to earlier you cant really see O'Shea as the referees looks like its starting to go towards the Davinn end goals but its not clear if its for the mark or the free. Is there another angle to show this clear blow to acknowledge the mark?
Yeah the kerry player stopped to take the free from the mark then was pushed slightly i think in the back.
If you are going to make the mistake and move it forward why didnt he do the same when conn got a high challenge. Even the commentator said surely that will be brought forward.
He gave kerry a 2 pointer and denied tyrone a 2 pointer. Massive difference never mind the phantom 45.
Gaa have spent years messing about with the rules but never addressed the 2 actual big issues- standard of refs and disciplinary process
Looks like Shane Walsh has decided to bring a poser's performance - he hasn't had a shot yet but is trying to impress with some dancing feet
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 28, 2026, 04:15:57 PMOk - it's an old hobby horse of mine, but is there a worse commentary team than Canning and Fitzmaurice.
I tried muting the tv and listening to the radio but the pictures are too far behind to enjoy.
Canning is awful
Pause your TV and play it when the radio catches up.thats what i have done
Quote from: gallsman on June 28, 2026, 04:20:22 PMChrist, Niall Scully taking on a shot. The Dubs fancy themselves alright.
And then we seen why he doesn't take many
Some difference in the pace of the 2 games very slow and methodical here!
If the Dubs still had Brian Fenton, they'd win the All-Ireland. Think they might be just a player short.
Con looking dangerous. O Cofaigh Byrne is important for Dubs today too, boring enough tit for tat so far..
Walsh showboating and passing
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 28, 2026, 04:24:39 PMQuote from: Shamrock Shore on June 28, 2026, 04:15:57 PMOk - it's an old hobby horse of mine, but is there a worse commentary team than Canning and Fitzmaurice.
I tried muting the tv and listening to the radio but the pictures are too far behind to enjoy.
Canning is awful
Pause your TV and play it when the radio catches up.thats what i have done
It's the radio I have to pause. No can do. I can listen on my phone as this will be streaming and ergo behind
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 28, 2026, 03:53:09 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 03:47:04 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 03:45:34 PMObviously our men didn't have a great year, but it's been some championship to watch
I can't remember a better one.
Unbelievable. Some great stories and games so far. 2 excellent quarter finals, 1 not great but competitive at least.
I think we can all agree it's a better format and here to stay
Only 1 provincial winner in quarters which was the strangest thing
Kerry to walk it again this year if these are the teams they are up against. And just as I'm writing this Conroy nails a 2 pointer
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 28, 2026, 04:23:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 04:12:06 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:31:14 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
You can never discount the evidence of the invisible infraction :o However the ref clearly blew his whistle to acknowledge the clean mark, was watching the play develop, observed the dunt into the back of the Kerry player, blew the whistle again immediately and only then did he indicate to bring the ball forward and all to the great approval of the match commentator.
Hardly an invisible infraction. Marc O Shea is is jostled by two Tyrone players then pulled by one and ends up on the ground, in my opinion not enough for free kick but hard to know what angle the ref has. You cant see the referee in the picture on the angle on the tv and in the other angle that I referred to earlier you cant really see O'Shea as the referees looks like its starting to go towards the Davinn end goals but its not clear if its for the mark or the free. Is there another angle to show this clear blow to acknowledge the mark?
Yeah the kerry player stopped to take the free from the mark then was pushed slightly i think in the back.
If you are going to make the mistake and move it forward why didnt he do the same when conn got a high challenge. Even the commentator said surely that will be brought forward.
He gave kerry a 2 pointer and denied tyrone a 2 pointer. Massive difference never mind the phantom 45.
Gaa have spent years messing about with the rules but never addressed the 2 actual big issues- standard of refs and disciplinary process
I am not sure the ref should continue to make the same mistake if the Kerry one was for a mark which it very well might be but im not 100%sure then that was the error and the one on O'Callaghan was the correct decision.
That said I completely agree on the standard of refereeing which has had a massive impact on this championship
Half-time Dublin 0-14 Galway 0-13. Dublin 6 Wides to 0 for Galway l.
Looks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 28, 2026, 04:35:35 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 28, 2026, 03:53:09 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 03:47:04 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 03:45:34 PMObviously our men didn't have a great year, but it's been some championship to watch
I can't remember a better one.
Unbelievable. Some great stories and games so far. 2 excellent quarter finals, 1 not great but competitive at least.
I think we can all agree it's a better format and here to stay
Only 1 provincial winner in quarters which was the strangest thing
I think its a decent idea but needs tweaked. There should be 2 weeks between Rounds 2 and 3 and the provincials should have no impact and the rule about no repeat fixtures should go.
I personally find repeat fixtures very anticlimactic, I have to say. But each to their own!
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 04:41:41 PMLooks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
But they were very good against Leitrim and Kildare.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 04:41:41 PMLooks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
So many that was tipping Galway to win Sam was strangely ignoring their goalkeeper and defensively issues. Joyce a lucky general so won't rule them out winning today however Kerry would ease past them should they meet.
Structure needs tweaked to allow a week off between games. Definitely hindered Kerry and Monaghan and will be surprised if Dublins legs last another full game especially after extra time last week.
Been an brilliant championship all round though.
Galway in real trouble. Look lax and their long kickout is atrocious. 2 pt aside Conroy a shadow of former self. McDaid anonymous
Dubs playing into a full Hill.
Joyce hair blower for Walsh at half time and now playing Nally so in theory should score easier.
If Dubs nab a goal the adrenaline will carry them, so long as Con stays fit.
Good start to 2nd half for Galway. 0-17 to 0-14.
Dublin haven't got started in the second half. Two wides and a 4 point spread.
Much needed two pointer for Dublin. 0-17 to 0-16.
Comer in for McDaid.
Dylan mchugh horrible miss on nailed on goal chance
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 04:50:53 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 04:41:41 PMLooks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
So many that was tipping Galway to win Sam was strangely ignoring their goalkeeper and defensively issues. Joyce a lucky general so won't rule them out winning today however Kerry would ease past them should they meet.
Joyce has lucked out with having a healthy squad the last number of years that's for sure 😬
2pt free for Dublin to level it. Con hits post and win free close in.
0-18 to 0-17
Dubs need a goal for the Hill to spark
55 minutes played Dublin 0-17 Galway 0-20. Goal for Galway they lead by 6.
Dublin respond with two points.
A bit of a vibe of the Westmeath game here. Dublin have stopped winning the midfield.
Dub kickout misfiring
Gough falls for the attacker holding defenders arm every single time.
3 times already in this half
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 28, 2026, 04:23:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 04:12:06 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 11:56:06 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 09:31:14 AMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:02:38 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 08:41:06 AMQuote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 01:35:35 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2026, 12:05:46 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 27, 2026, 11:44:28 PMDont think I have ever see a game where ref, umpire and linesman mistakes all were to the advantage of one team. Strange
I can see why the umpire got it wrong, it looked initially it hit defenders toe, got it wrong, thought the ref was going to have a sneaky look at the big screen on that one, the mark mistake could be as David described was a free given then impeded, think I missed that one, what was the linesman one?
No he just made a mistake on the mark one, plain and simple. Its at the start of the clip on this tweet.
https://x.com/i/status/2070945718211125517
I don't think I can tell from that clip. There's another angle I saw last night that made it look like his arm started going out for a free kick just before the mark was taken but it was very hard to tell
Then there was definitely a mistake by the referee as there was absolutely no foul before the mark.
I don't think it was a foul but something happens with Mark O'Shea and two of the Tyrone players. So I can't discount that the ref gave a free from something there.
You can never discount the evidence of the invisible infraction :o However the ref clearly blew his whistle to acknowledge the clean mark, was watching the play develop, observed the dunt into the back of the Kerry player, blew the whistle again immediately and only then did he indicate to bring the ball forward and all to the great approval of the match commentator.
Hardly an invisible infraction. Marc O Shea is is jostled by two Tyrone players then pulled by one and ends up on the ground, in my opinion not enough for free kick but hard to know what angle the ref has. You cant see the referee in the picture on the angle on the tv and in the other angle that I referred to earlier you cant really see O'Shea as the referees looks like its starting to go towards the Davinn end goals but its not clear if its for the mark or the free. Is there another angle to show this clear blow to acknowledge the mark?
Yeah the kerry player stopped to take the free from the mark then was pushed slightly i think in the back.
If you are going to make the mistake and move it forward why didnt he do the same when conn got a high challenge. Even the commentator said surely that will be brought forward.
He gave kerry a 2 pointer and denied tyrone a 2 pointer. Massive difference never mind the phantom 45.
Gaa have spent years messing about with the rules but never addressed the 2 actual big issues- standard of refs and disciplinary process
O'Shea did not stop to take a free, first we get an invisible infraction now the invisible pause :) O'Shea got the mark, he would not have seen anything else happening, the first whistle 99.9% for the clearly observed clean mark by O´Shea, not at all likely was it for the much more difficult to ascertain collisions to the side which may or may not have been a foul against a Kerry player. But I'll admit there is a 0.1% chance that the ref ignored all the beauty of the clean catch by O´Shea and blew his whistle for a bit of coming together by players on the side.
Not blowing up for an alleged infraction against Conn most likely means the ref (rightly or wrongly) didn't think it was a foul.
Waslsh is some baller but when he's bad he is woeful!
Silly from Walsh. How could he not see there was 3 Dubs in front of him there? Fair enough he could have got past the first man but surely you see the other 2 closing in?
Three in a row for Dublin. 0-20 to 1-20. 11 minutes left.
Black card peno for Dubs!
Galway failed to ping few easy pts after their 6 point lead. Now could go level
Ego Gough again f**k me.
Penalty to Dublin and black to Galway.
Silke has done Multi fouls in this game and should be yellow carded earlier for consistent fouling.
Gough show again
I know rules are rules, but bit of a double whammy a pen for DOGSO and a black card
Not entirely sure that was a penalty. Definitely wasnt a pull down more of a block/slow him down attempt
Level game
Had it. Dropped it
Don't think that was a goal scoring opportunity but Galway paying the price for having a keeper with a poor kickout!
Some dramatics in the dive, not sure it was a goal scoring chance. Looked like a foul in midfield beforehand not given to Galway.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 28, 2026, 05:26:04 PMNot entirely sure that was a penalty. Definitely wasnt a pull down more of a block/slow him down attempt
Thought he popped the ball out.
So unlucky there Gleeson.
Corrupt decision.
Galway 5 was on point - never a clear goalscoring opportunity
Gough always finds a way to bring Dublin back into a game.
Disgraceful performance.
Very soft contact in that penalty award.
What was the black card offence in that penalty call?
Shouldn't be allowed near Dublin games. Completely embarassing.
Thats far more of a penalty for Galway ffs! At least let him go for goal before calling it back
Feck me how is that not a penalty for galway
Who is Shane Welsh
Why is that bollix hitting frees with his left when Finnerty in the field...
Quote from: square_ball on June 28, 2026, 05:28:29 PMWhat was the black card offence in that penalty call?
Black card is a fair enough call. Penalty wasn't.
Especially when you see what happened the other end.
Galway 1 in front with 6 mins left.
Because the man fell into the Dublin man in front of him.
Interesting gray area for advantage rule.
Kilkenny black card pull down on Maher during advantage and penalty. Gough brings it back out for 2 pt free.
Walsh on scoreboard first time in 64th minute
Poor ref standard again. Galway player fouled by shoulder in back, no foul given then a wrap around tackle inside penalty area and none given.
Two-pointer for Dublin they lead by 1 with 5 minutes to go.
G when Scully hitting 2 pters u know its a hard day, lad hardly scored when Dublin had a good team.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 28, 2026, 05:30:33 PMWhy is that bollix hitting frees with his left when Finnerty in the field...
Its such bullshit
Im both footed and took frees on stronger boot. The notion walsh doesnt have a weak foot was always crap. Amazing Joyce never addressed it. Easy done
Quote from: thewobbler on June 28, 2026, 05:30:39 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 28, 2026, 05:28:29 PMWhat was the black card offence in that penalty call?
Black card is a fair enough call. Penalty wasn't.
Especially when you see what happened the other end.
What for? It wasn't a pulldown.
Quote from: square_ball on June 28, 2026, 05:32:45 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 28, 2026, 05:30:39 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 28, 2026, 05:28:29 PMWhat was the black card offence in that penalty call?
Black card is a fair enough call. Penalty wasn't.
Especially when you see what happened the other end.
What for? It wasn't a pulldown.
Doesn't have to be. The refrence to pull down is no longer in rules.
Like Louth the Dubs went to win it and prob deserve to get over line, even with that bit of luck.
Galway just a fancy teamsheet. Comer anonymous. Only themselves to blame.
2 Galway players take out of it off the ball there. f**k off Gough
Galway simply cant tackle!!
Gough is a bad, bad, bad referee.
Screening by dublin player before the free. Gough riding galway here
What height that monster in midfield.remember Glass couldnt get a kickout of him last year.
Gough has decided this game. It's always about David. f**king terrible Ref.
Gough appallingly one-sided.
Galway fluffed it though
Gaa looking dublin kerry final
Ref rode Galway but they didn't deserve it. Some awful stuff and Gleeson has been poor
Result Dublin 1-25 Galway 1-21
Semi-finals
Mayo v Louth or Dublin
Kerry v Louth or Dublin
Galway shafted there.
Punishment didn't fit the crime for that penalty and black card.
Fair enough if it was cynical foul.
Naw lads as good a football championship its been, I'll look back on it with bitterness since it'll be Kerry or Dublin winning it yet again. Dodgy reffing decisions helping both of them this weekend to
Is there nobody better in Galway than Gleeson? Surely.
The Jacks are back.
Dublin Kerry final cert
Galway can rightly feel a bit shafted here
Sean Guidera is a class player off the bench. He should get at least 20+ mins.
All Dublin needs was their manager it seems. They had 5/6 men bck not playing in the league or early championship rounds. Whoever was on O'Callaghan got roasted. Think that be the end of Joyce, maybe Comer and Walsh.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 28, 2026, 05:36:17 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 28, 2026, 05:32:45 PMQuote from: thewobbler on June 28, 2026, 05:30:39 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 28, 2026, 05:28:29 PMWhat was the black card offence in that penalty call?
Black card is a fair enough call. Penalty wasn't.
Especially when you see what happened the other end.
What for? It wasn't a pulldown.
Doesn't have to be. The refrence to pull down is no longer in rules.
Stop making shit up!
Black Card InfractionsThe sanction targets intentional and cynical fouls. Specific offenses include:Deliberate pull-down or trip: Intentionally pulling or tripping an opponent to the ground.Deliberate body collide: Taking an opponent out of the play after they have offloaded the ball.Holding up an opponent: Cynically holding an opponent to disrupt an attacking play (without necessarily dragging them to the ground).Contributing to a melee: Joining a scuffle as the third or subsequent player to escalate the situation.Abuse of officials: Using threatening or aggressive language/gestures towards a match official.
You can see why Galway have lost 2 AI finals in recent years.
Quote from: Brendan on June 28, 2026, 05:39:20 PMNaw lads as good a football championship its been, I'll look back on it with bitterness since it'll be Kerry or Dublin winning it yet again. Dodgy reffing decisions helping both of them this weekend to
Yup though Kerry have the best team. What a misser opportunity for Tyrone...imagine having Dubs in a final GAHHH
Tyrone dont seem any better than Dublin. It be Donegal kicking themselves this year.
The Dubs closed out that game imperiously, the dubs are back. Other highlights from the weekend, Mayo tackling intensity in the 2nd half and Tyrone taking it to the wire with some brilliant point scoring.
Walsh a disaster, Comer was as well left on the bench.
Media can start creaming themselves now.
Quote from: 5times5times on June 28, 2026, 05:39:54 PMIs there nobody better in Galway than Gleeson? Surely.
His kickouts have been poor for years why haven't they addressed it?!!
Can't imagine Joyce/Comer/Conroy/Walsh will be back next season?
Quote from: tyroneStatto on June 28, 2026, 05:43:05 PMYou can see why Galway have lost 2 AI finals in recent years.
It could be a while before they lose another
Another false dawn for Galway. Maybe the end for Joyce. Didn't agree with the penalty but at the same time Galway didn't look like All-Ireland contenders today.
First time in a long time i couldnt name the Dublin team off hand. So many new faces past 2 years. Galway, well thats the Galway team beat by Roscommon.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 28, 2026, 05:41:43 PMAll Dublin needs was their manager it seems. They had 5/6 men bck not playing in the league or early championship rounds. Whoever was on O'Callaghan got roasted. Think that be the end of Joyce, maybe Comer and Walsh.
Walsh 33 he will hang around a bit more. They may get a kick from new mgmt. Conroy is done I would say but could hang on to help younglings.
Brennans kickout organising has them beating two of top 4. Some going considering what happened earlier in year.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 28, 2026, 05:44:36 PMTyrone dont seem any better than Dublin. It be Donegal kicking themselves this year.
And Murphy hitting himself. With a closed fist , obviously.
So the narrative, this year, will be that it's better to be playing matches than sitting waiting in the quarter final.
Keeper spoke well there.
Hope for a Dublin v Kerry semi. Be great for Louth to have a real chance of making an AI final.
Mayo V Dublin/Louth
Kerry V Dublin / Louth
Dublin Louth cant happen....lets see if cynics are proven right on draw
Gough's Dublin bias continues.
A Dublin referee shouldn't be allowed ref Dublin games ever.
No way was it a penalty.
Was a definite black card for Dublin a few minutes later, Galway player collided into deliberately, Dublin got a free a few seconds later.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 05:10:38 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 04:50:53 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 04:41:41 PMLooks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
So many that was tipping Galway to win Sam was strangely ignoring their goalkeeper and defensively issues. Joyce a lucky general so won't rule them out winning today however Kerry would ease past them should they meet.
Joyce has lucked out with having a healthy squad the last number of years that's for sure 😬
No excuse every team has injuries. The lucky general ran out of it today in what could be his final match managing Galway.
Eye opener for all those who thought All-Ireland was in that Galway team.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 28, 2026, 05:47:26 PMFirst time in a long time i couldnt name the Dublin team off hand. So many new faces past 2 years. Galway, well thats the Galway team beat by Roscommon.
Maybe but Dublin All-Ireland medals winners really stood up.
Galway was 6 points up against Roscommon in that game also. Tough one on the chin to take but today and the Connacht final the best teams won.
Kerry and Dublin both advance due to wrong refereeing calls ensuring they didn't lose. That's some coincidence tbf...
The trend of letting teams back into games when in a decent lead continues.
This team just aren't learning any lessons.
Also if I never see Gough reffing again it will be too soon
I really enjoy the refereeing panel on here. So much knowledge albeit very little agreement on what the actual rules are. I get more confused with each game. 😂
Draw done
Mayo V Louth
Kerry V Dublin
Louth v Kerry final 👍
Hon the Wee County
At the end of the day the better team won.
But at same time they would have lost only for a referee determined to be involved.
I've no issue with him ignoring the Galway penalty. That's how it should be if unsure. But Dublin's penalty was him getting involved when he didn't need to be.
The best thing for football now is to keep mayo and Kerry apart. Kerry will win the final against any of those left, but Mayo the most capable of keeping it close and honest.
PJ one of the best players I'll ever see. But he's wasted a golden generation for Galway imho.
I really dont understand why refs are not more cute simply delaying a call, go to linesman and see if he has opinion etc.
The black card peno changed game for Galway but still felt Dubs were better side
If they are so keen to avoid repeat pairings , how come Louth and Dublin met twice?
Quote from: Estimator on June 28, 2026, 05:52:20 PMSo the narrative, this year, will be that it's better to be playing matches than sitting waiting in the quarter final.
Mayo got a better reward from Omagh than Tyrone did.
O Cofaigh Byrne caught 6 clean. Saw him Vs Errigal in HQ for Cuala and knew then hed be a serious weapon for the Dubs. Awkward but so powerful
Quote from: thewobbler on June 28, 2026, 06:19:34 PMThe best thing for football now is to keep mayo and Kerry apart. Kerry will win the final against any of those left, but Mayo the most capable of keeping it close and honest.
::)
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 28, 2026, 06:08:16 PMKerry and Dublin both advance due to wrong refereeing calls ensuring they didn't lose. That's some coincidence tbf...
LOL
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 28, 2026, 06:18:55 PMLouth v Kerry final 👍
Hon the Wee County
The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 28, 2026, 06:36:33 PMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on June 28, 2026, 06:08:16 PMKerry and Dublin both advance due to wrong refereeing calls ensuring they didn't lose. That's some coincidence tbf...
LOL
No doubt they will each have their own referee for the semifinal. 😎
Quote from: armaghniac on June 28, 2026, 06:41:31 PMQuote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 28, 2026, 06:18:55 PMLouth v Kerry final 👍
Hon the Wee County
The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Season over but still trying to be relevant. 🙈
Dublin our best chance of Kerry being beaten.
Although that could mean Mayo have a chance in a final.
And Mayo winning an All Ireland would be disastrous for the game.
Would be great to see Louth do the unthinkable.
Since 2001, when the qualifiers were introduced, provinces have
Connacht: 7 times missing
Munster: 1 time missing (2002)
Leinster: 1 time missing (2024)
Ulster: 0
So it is a novel year. I'd say if you went to Paddy Power this year and asked for odds on the semi-finals not including a province, they would have given you poor odds on Leinster and good odds on Ulster. The draw plays a big role here, this might be different under a group system.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 06:49:37 PMDublin our best chance of Kerry being beaten.
Although that could mean Mayo have a chance in a final.
And Mayo winning an All Ireland would be disastrous for the game.
Would be great to see Louth do the unthinkable.
Exactly how much damage could Mayo do winning every 75 years?
Louth are indeed formidable against teams whose goalie is injured.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 28, 2026, 06:52:56 PMSince 2001, when the qualifiers were introduced, provinces have
Connacht: 7 times missing
Munster: 1 time missing (2002)
Leinster: 1 time missing (2024)
Ulster: 0
So it is a novel year. I'd say if you went to Paddy Power this year and asked for odds on the semi-finals not including a province, they would have given you poor odds on Leinster and good odds on Ulster. The draw plays a big role here, this might be different under a group system.
Do you mean years when they have produced 0 all Ireland semi finalists because Kerry definitely made it in 02
Enjoyed that in a similar way to the enjoyment I felt when we beat Tyrone in the QF in 2010.
What is interesting is how the consolidation of most of Dublin's available panel, and the return of Ger Brennan to the dugout has clearly had a massive impact. This is not like the Gavin era, but reminds me of the 2010 vintage of the Gilroy era. Hunting in packs, one forward racking up ~10 points game, aggressively moving to the midfield ball that sort of thing.
That team was not quite yet an All Ireland winner. But it was a start. This end to the season is likely to encourage the remaining stalwarts to remain on for another season.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 28, 2026, 06:58:39 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 06:49:37 PMDublin our best chance of Kerry being beaten.
Although that could mean Mayo have a chance in a final.
And Mayo winning an All Ireland would be disastrous for the game.
Would be great to see Louth do the unthinkable.
Exactly how much damage could Mayo do winning every 75 years?
Louth are indeed formidable against teams whose goalie is injured.
It's hard enough listening to their fans when their not winning. Imagine what it be like if they won one.
My preference for All ireland winners at this point would be.
1. Louth
2. Dublin
3. Kerry
4. Mayo
Quote from: armaghniac on June 28, 2026, 06:58:39 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 06:49:37 PMDublin our best chance of Kerry being beaten.
Although that could mean Mayo have a chance in a final.
And Mayo winning an All Ireland would be disastrous for the game.
Would be great to see Louth do the unthinkable.
Exactly how much damage could Mayo do winning every 75 years?
Louth are indeed formidable against teams whose goalie is injured.
The Mayo goalie will be worried sick about what misfortune will befall him in the next two weeks that'll make him miss the Louth match.
My money is on him getting lost in the Tanzanian jungle.
He's got them to the semi finals anyway.
To be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 07:09:56 PMQuote from: armaghniac on June 28, 2026, 06:58:39 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 06:49:37 PMDublin our best chance of Kerry being beaten.
Although that could mean Mayo have a chance in a final.
And Mayo winning an All Ireland would be disastrous for the game.
Would be great to see Louth do the unthinkable.
Exactly how much damage could Mayo do winning every 75 years?
Louth are indeed formidable against teams whose goalie is injured.
It's hard enough listening to their fans when their not winning. Imagine what it be like if they won one.
My preference for All ireland winners at this point would be.
1. Louth
2. Dublin
3. Kerry
4. Mayo
Kerry and Dublin have won more than enough. I think every neutral would back Louth. I don't see much to dislike in Mayo people personally.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Leinster Championship was that not. ?
Quote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Separate competition
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:19:38 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 07:09:56 PMQuote from: armaghniac on June 28, 2026, 06:58:39 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 06:49:37 PMDublin our best chance of Kerry being beaten.
Although that could mean Mayo have a chance in a final.
And Mayo winning an All Ireland would be disastrous for the game.
Would be great to see Louth do the unthinkable.
Exactly how much damage could Mayo do winning every 75 years?
Louth are indeed formidable against teams whose goalie is injured.
It's hard enough listening to their fans when their not winning. Imagine what it be like if they won one.
My preference for All ireland winners at this point would be.
1. Louth
2. Dublin
3. Kerry
4. Mayo
Kerry and Dublin have won more than enough. I think every neutral would back Louth. I don't see much to dislike in Mayo people personally.
Mayo people are brilliant. Just outside of football haha.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:23:05 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Separate competition
Apart from when it comes to qualifying for the competition and who you can draw in it
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The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Can Armagh claim a Bronze medal out of it?
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Getting a team in their 1st semi-final since 1957 is fortune enough. After losing to Tyrone they got good fortune to draw Division 2 opposition in Meath who went to pieces with 14 men and Cork who's shooting was woeful.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 07:35:59 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:23:05 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
This is the all Ireland series thread. Louth are unbeaten in the series regardless of qualifying rules.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Separate competition
Apart from when it comes to qualifying for the competition and who you can draw in it
Kickouts a shambles and have been for a long time, keeper not good enough and neither is the strategy.
Galway win the game with a bit too spare if they breakeven on them.
Anyone got the free count?
Just wish we'd been beaten with no big talking points, that's what makes it harder to take.
Gough should never get a game at this level.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 07:35:59 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:23:05 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Separate competition
Apart from when it comes to qualifying for the competition and who you can draw in it
NFL qualifies 7 teams, TC qualifies 1, Provincials qualify 8 ( with a perk)
All separate competitions.
Quote from: tyroneStatto on June 28, 2026, 06:22:15 PMQuote from: Estimator on June 28, 2026, 05:52:20 PMSo the narrative, this year, will be that it's better to be playing matches than sitting waiting in the quarter final.
Mayo got a better reward from Omagh than Tyrone did.
They may get to AI final but they will be beat by Kerry. Tyrone had a decent draw and got kerry at ideal time...better would have been before white was back buy hey ho.
The competition now is for second place
Quote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:55:57 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 07:35:59 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:23:05 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Separate competition
Apart from when it comes to qualifying for the competition and who you can draw in it
NFL qualifies 7 teams, TC qualifies 1, Provincials qualify 8 ( with a perk)
All separate competitions.
This is the All Ireland series thread. Regardless of qualification criteria Louth still unbeaten in the series.
Poor old referees always to blame. Galway six points up and cruising, lazy tackling makes the decision penalty decision for the referee. Galway penalty shout, ref gives foul on Walsh so free shot for two pointer which he misses. Called back and the free is missed as well.
As a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Walsh and his trusty left boot. Clownshow but ultimately Joyces fault for not nipping that in the bud
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 08:15:11 PMWalsh and his trusty left boot. Clownshow but ultimately Joyces fault for not nipping that in the bud
But he had a great game in the All Ireland four years ago.
Well Bunk are ye getting even a little biteen excited?
The jackeen bandwagon back rolling anyway.
On a side note Gavin Devlin comes across as a very likeable guy.
I'd say the players must have great time for him.
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The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Can Armagh claim a Bronze medal out of it?
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Getting a team in their 1st semi-final since 1957 is fortune enough. After losing to Tyrone they got good fortune to draw Division 2 opposition in Meath who went to pieces with 14 men and Cork who's shooting was woeful.
Louth's season has similar vibes to Fermanagh in 04 who Mayo narrowly beat in the semi-final after a replay.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Ignore the final 15 minutes. Before all that he gave Dublin 3 or 4 frees on kick outs. Galway got zero. Are you telling me only Galway were fouling going up for kick outs? Give me a break.
Plenty to criticise Galway for today. Kick outs, certain players not performing, etc. But the least you expect is fair play from the ref.
Penalty and black card was excessive; Galway had their chances tho, 6 pts up and cruising, once the dubs got a few scores back you could see them combusting
Dubs could in theory scalp Kerry. They won 68% of all kickouts...though Kerry has an actual strategy rather than hit/hope.
Louth into an All Ireland final against a team they have beaten.
Please God let it be.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2026, 07:54:59 PMKickouts a shambles and have been for a long time, keeper not good enough and neither is the strategy.
Galway win the game with a bit too spare if they breakeven on them.
Anyone got the free count?
Just wish we'd been beaten with no big talking points, that's what makes it harder to take.
Gough should never get a game at this level.
Galway supporters must be fed up at this point. A lot of people would have expected them to push on and win the All-Ireland with that team and especially this year with fewer injuries.
Gough has had a terrible year.
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Did Dublin not beat them ny 10 points?
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The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Can Armagh claim a Bronze medal out of it?
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Getting a team in their 1st semi-final since 1957 is fortune enough. After losing to Tyrone they got good fortune to draw Division 2 opposition in Meath who went to pieces with 14 men and Cork who's shooting was woeful.
Louth's season has similar vibes to Fermanagh in 04 who Mayo narrowly beat in the semi-final after a replay.
Fermanagh beat Armagh in the q4 and meant that Armagh team won just the 1 Sam.
Whilst the quarter finals threw up some great contests, this might be the poorest quality we've seen at this stage of the All-Ireland for some time. Kerry v Tyrone the exception.
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 06:12:04 PMI really enjoy the refereeing panel on here. So much knowledge albeit very little agreement on what the actual rules are. I get more confused with each game. 😂
A bit like the GAA's official refereeing panel then? ;D
looking at the penalty incident, I'd agree now that it was a foul but it's a big leap to claim the dub was pulled down to deny a goal scoring chance. Was there not a similar one awarded to Kerry v Derry. where the fouled one still had a lot of work to do? The definition of what is a goal scoring chance is wide open
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The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Can Armagh claim a Bronze medal out of it?
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Getting a team in their 1st semi-final since 1957 is fortune enough. After losing to Tyrone they got good fortune to draw Division 2 opposition in Meath who went to pieces with 14 men and Cork who's shooting was woeful.
Louth's season has similar vibes to Fermanagh in 04 who Mayo narrowly beat in the semi-final after a replay.
Fermanagh beat Armagh in the q4 and meant that Armagh team won just the 1 Sam.
A lot of counties would bite your hand off for one Sam
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 28, 2026, 08:25:04 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Ignore the final 15 minutes. Before all that he gave Dublin 3 or 4 frees on kick outs. Galway got zero. Are you telling me only Galway were fouling going up for kick outs? Give me a break.
Plenty to criticise Galway for today. Kick outs, certain players not performing, etc. But the least you expect is fair play from the ref.
Leaves a very sour taste, I can only recollect Galway getting 3 frees in the match.
Look at Dublins 17th and 18th points, 2 frees bought by Dublin players grabbing hold of Hernon and Conroy. First one an utter joke as Gough had a great view of it.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 28, 2026, 08:42:43 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Did Dublin not beat them ny 10 points?
Are you and Blanketattack the same person. 😎. Already asked and answered.
After Mahers goal Galway got 1 point. Dublin got 1-8
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 28, 2026, 08:54:09 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 06:12:04 PMI really enjoy the refereeing panel on here. So much knowledge albeit very little agreement on what the actual rules are. I get more confused with each game. 😂
A bit like the GAA's official refereeing panel then? ;D
True. 😂
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 08:57:49 PMlooking at the penalty incident, I'd agree now that it was a foul but it's a big leap to claim the dub was pulled down to deny a goal scoring chance. Was there not a similar one awarded to Kerry v Derry. where the fouled one still had a lot of work to do? The definition of what is a goal scoring chance is wide open
Why can't refs just err on side of caution? Take a minute pretend to confer with umpire or linesmen. A point isnt a bad return.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 09:32:35 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 28, 2026, 08:57:49 PMlooking at the penalty incident, I'd agree now that it was a foul but it's a big leap to claim the dub was pulled down to deny a goal scoring chance. Was there not a similar one awarded to Kerry v Derry. where the fouled one still had a lot of work to do? The definition of what is a goal scoring chance is wide open
Why can't refs just err on side of caution? Take a minute pretend to confer with umpire or linesmen. A point isnt a bad return.
Zigzackley this.
The foul was obvious. The game was going to stop.
Take a deep feckin breath before directing the outcome of the game.
Louth v Mayo 6pm sat 11th
Dubs v Kerry 4pm sun 12th
Tailtean Cup final preceding sat game
Junior final preceding sun game
Quote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:55:57 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 07:35:59 PMQuote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2026, 07:23:05 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 28, 2026, 07:18:01 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
They lost to Dublin by 10 points
Separate competition
Apart from when it comes to qualifying for the competition and who you can draw in it
NFL qualifies 7 teams, TC qualifies 1, Provincials qualify 8 ( with a perk)
All separate competitions.
Provincial championship qualifies and seeds 8 teams. It also restricts fixtures in the All Ireland and suspensions carry over so not an entirely separate competition
I realise I'm foolish going up against a solicitor but I'll give it a go. 😂. I can't see any result in the current All Ireland series where Dublin beat Louth by ten points. It may happen in the final but my crystal balls a bit cloudy.
There was talk of keeping Kerry and Cork apart in the semis draw had both got through. The Munster final was 3 or 4 rounds ago.
So why was it ok for Louth and Dublin to meet again in the qualifiers when they met in a Leinster semi?
I think the draw should just be the draw. If you've played before, tough.
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 10:05:25 PMI realise I'm foolish going up against a solicitor but I'll give it a go. 😂. I can't see any result in the current All Ireland series where Dublin beat Louth by ten points. It may happen in the final but my crystal balls a bit cloudy.
Not sure who the solicitor is but in case you are referring to me (I am not a solicitor) I think the answer to the question whether they are completely separate competitions is answered by 6.12 of the official guide:
The Championships shall be organised as follows: INTER-COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS
(A) All-Ireland Senior Football Championship:
(i) Provincial Championships These Championships shall be played on a Knockout Format. Group or 'RoundRobin' Formats may not be used.
(ii) Tier 1 (Sam Maguire Cup)
So the Provincial Championship and Sam Maguire Cup as they call it make up the All Ireland Senior Football Championship.
So on a technical level Dublin have beaten Louth in the All Ireland Senior Football Championship this year but not in the Sam Maguire Cup as the rules call it
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 10:05:25 PMI realise I'm foolish going up against a solicitor but I'll give it a go. 😂. I can't see any result in the current All Ireland series where Dublin beat Louth by ten points. It may happen in the final but my crystal balls a bit cloudy.
I'm not sure if you're missing an apostrophe there by accident, but if not, you should see an urologist pronto.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 28, 2026, 10:18:07 PMThere was talk of keeping Kerry and Cork apart in the semis draw had both got through. The Munster final was 3 or 4 rounds ago.
So why was it ok for Louth and Dublin to meet again in the qualifiers when they met in a Leinster semi?
I think the draw should just be the draw. If you've played before, tough.
The rules seem to suggest the only time meeting before the Provincial final that becomes relevant is in the All Ireland Semi Final
Galway were robbed, anyone who says otherwise never kicked a ball.
New rules are about control and teams getting into a flow state. Goughs decision turned the tide and gave Dublin and the home crowd the energy to drive on.
Gough needs to be called out on this by all media but it won't happen. He's in Dublin's pockets.
Think match sharpness and not being in tight championship game vs quality opposition cost them big time along with sub par management [kickouts wtf].
Basquell overcarried twice and not blown. One of those times was the penalty call. Can feel hard done by but 1 point from Walsh and Comer is brutal stuff.
The amount of new refs in the counties after this weekend be a joy to watch!!Time they tried it!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 05:58:25 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 05:10:38 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 04:50:53 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 04:41:41 PMLooks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
So many that was tipping Galway to win Sam was strangely ignoring their goalkeeper and defensively issues. Joyce a lucky general so won't rule them out winning today however Kerry would ease past them should they meet.
Joyce has lucked out with having a healthy squad the last number of years that's for sure 😬
No excuse every team has injuries. The lucky general ran out of it today in what could be his final match managing Galway.
Eye opener for all those who thought All-Ireland was in that Galway team.
Missed the last 15 mins as I had to go out for the night,so just catching up.
Dublin penalty wasn't the correct call imo, Galway defender right in front and Galway should have had a penalty...if Joyce is lucky, you can take that luck to the street, no thanks
Give Dublin credit. They had every reason to give up after the Galway goal. Instead they won going away. Remind me again, which team had to play 90 minutes the previous week?
Scratching my head at some of the performances this year. Talk about going out with a whimper. It will be a long off season in Armagh, Donegal, Galway, Meath and Roscommon. Do these counties have the talent to win All Irelands or are they overrated?
Then I look at the history of the championship and stop scratching my head. Now I know why Kerry and Dublin have won so many.
Something I just don't like about Louth- probably bitterness from the way we lost to them and the whole Inniskeen debacle but fair fecking play to them, they're there on merit and deserve huge credit for that performance yesterday a man down. Unreal stuff.
Mayo have kind of sleepwalked into a semi final, beat an average Meath with the advantage of an extra man and then a dreadful Cork who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, but they have plenty of good players, both teams will fancy their chances.
Going to predict Louth by 2 in this one.
Kerry looked unreal against us and then average enough against Tyrone Geaney and the alien aside. I'd say the 2 weeks off will do them wonders, Sean O'Shea doesn't look right yet and the break should bring him on more, same with their other lads, think you could see it with a few that they'd played 3 games on the spin, midfield will be key.
Dublin have beat 2 of what were most peoples top 4 all year and looked very impressive doing so, even if they had a lot of help from Dublin David. Big O'CB is a beast in the air and if Con is left 1 on 1 he'll do serious harm. They always seem to handle Clifford relatively well but he's gone to another level since 2023 and I'm not sure who they put on him. So many fires to put out there with both Cliffords and Geaneys capable of destroying you, be interesting to see if they start Seanie or keep him for a lift in the second half.
Going to Kerry by 4.
Kerry to win the final as they'll just have far to much for Louth. If Dublin can somehow cause an upset in the semi then it's really anyones All Ireland.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2026, 08:16:10 AMSomething I just don't like about Louth- probably bitterness from the way we lost to them and the whole Inniskeen debacle but fair fecking play to them, they're there on merit and deserve huge credit for that performance yesterday a man down. Unreal stuff.
Mayo have kind of sleepwalked into a semi final, beat an average Meath with the advantage of an extra man and then a dreadful Cork who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, but they have plenty of good players, both teams will fancy their chances.
Going to predict Louth by 2 in this one.
Kerry looked unreal against us and then average enough against Tyrone Geaney and the alien aside. I'd say the 2 weeks off will do them wonders, Sean O'Shea doesn't look right yet and the break should being him
They only began to look unreal when Armagh gave up after the shitty goal.
Thought Joyce would have brought Cian Breathnach McGinn on today?
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Loving the rage baiting you have for Dublin. Gough lives in Slane and works in school in Inchicore, an area which would have no GAA tradition.
When did the advantage rue change? Used to be that if there was a second foul it was brought back to original free, now I believe referee can award the second free if it's in a better position?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 29, 2026, 01:05:38 AMThe amount of new refs in the counties after this weekend be a joy to watch!!Time they tried it!
Major part of the problem is posts like this, thinking refs are beyond questioning.
Surely refs would welcome changes such as video reply or a third ref in a monitoring room helping him. Soccer and rugby both have it.
Would you rather pretend there is no issue?
Yeah and the world is head over heels in love with VAR, isn't it?
Do you want Hydration Breaks (perhaps they could be sponsored by Club Energize?) as well?
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 29, 2026, 08:41:43 AMWhen did the advantage rue change? Used to be that if there was a second foul it was brought back to original free, now I believe referee can award the second free if it's in a better position?
The clue is in the word - ADVANTAGE
Quote from: Rossfan on June 29, 2026, 09:04:26 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 29, 2026, 08:41:43 AMWhen did the advantage rue change? Used to be that if there was a second foul it was brought back to original free, now I believe referee can award the second free if it's in a better position?
The clue is in the word - ADVANTAGE
Not sure how it was more advantageous for Galway to be awarded a 2 point free rather than a penalty, or why he didn't let them at least get a shot off for a goal before taking it back. Although how Walsh is allowed hit left footed frees over Finnerty is mad.
I get Kerry are very very good given they are the champions and all but I hear a lot of people thinking its theirs to lose now. That seems a bit simple after what we have seen from the Dubs that last 2 weeks who have really found their stride now.
Also Louth are surely a very dangerous opponent for any of the 3 sides left, I did not think it would be possible in the modern game to go down a man and win a match, especially for the length of time they had to cope with it. Monaghan may not be a Kerry or a Galway but are a decent team so to come out on top was pretty extraordinary.
I don't know the stats but wondering when was the last time a team with 14 for a significant period of time won a match?
Its not like back in the day when say the Meath team of lates 80s early 90s when going down a man almost suited them, in this day and age it's like a yellow card in Rugby where teams most often or not score a try in that period when they have a numerical advantage. It feels crazy that Louth pulled it out of the fire and will be a huge shot in the arm of that squad who will be on cloud 9 preparing for that May game.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 29, 2026, 08:33:20 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Loving the rage baiting you have for Dublin. Gough lives in Slane and works in school in Inchicore, an area which would have no GAA tradition.
We have all seen pictures of David Gough standing beside Dublin players at his school on visits with the Sam Maguire. It's a compromising position refereeing a Dublin match.
There will always be subliminal decisions. I was as close to Neutral as I have ever been watching yesterday's game. Gough definitely gave Dublin the run of Green.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2026, 09:30:56 AMQuote from: Gael85 on June 29, 2026, 08:33:20 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Loving the rage baiting you have for Dublin. Gough lives in Slane and works in school in Inchicore, an area which would have no GAA tradition.
We have all seen pictures of David Gough standing beside Dublin players at his school on visits with the Sam Maguire. It's a compromising position refereeing a Dublin match.
There will always be subliminal decisions. I was as close to Neutral as I have ever been watching yesterday's game. Gough definitely gave Dublin the run of Green.
Whether he did or not, there is simply no need for the GAA to appoint him to Dublin games and have people suggesting that he might be biased.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 29, 2026, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2026, 09:30:56 AMQuote from: Gael85 on June 29, 2026, 08:33:20 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Loving the rage baiting you have for Dublin. Gough lives in Slane and works in school in Inchicore, an area which would have no GAA tradition.
We have all seen pictures of David Gough standing beside Dublin players at his school on visits with the Sam Maguire. It's a compromising position refereeing a Dublin match.
There will always be subliminal decisions. I was as close to Neutral as I have ever been watching yesterday's game. Gough definitely gave Dublin the run of Green.
Whether he did or not, there is simply no need for the GAA to appoint him to Dublin games and have people suggesting that he might be biased.
He's a posey p***k who wants to be the centre of attention at all times.
Couple of cracking games yesterday.
Fair play to Dublin and especially Louth on getting over the line when both seemed improbable at stages. The Leinster championship looking in good health for the next few years which is great to see after years of facile Dublin victories.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2026, 09:09:42 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 29, 2026, 09:04:26 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 29, 2026, 08:41:43 AMWhen did the advantage rue change? Used to be that if there was a second foul it was brought back to original free, now I believe referee can award the second free if it's in a better position?
The clue is in the word - ADVANTAGE
Not sure how it was more advantageous for Galway to be awarded a 2 point free rather than a penalty, or why he didn't let them at least get a shot off for a goal before taking it back. Although how Walsh is allowed hit left footed frees over Finnerty is mad.
Ref said it wasn't a penalty and Maher wasn't able to get a shot away.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 29, 2026, 09:04:26 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on June 29, 2026, 08:41:43 AMWhen did the advantage rue change? Used to be that if there was a second foul it was brought back to original free, now I believe referee can award the second free if it's in a better position?
The clue is in the word - ADVANTAGE
Look Up is correct. Prior to January 2025 if a second foul was committed we'd go back to the first regardless. The change was proposed by the FRC in Nov 24. It was made permanent in 2026.
Was at the games
Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Quote from: statto on June 29, 2026, 10:12:39 AMCouple of cracking games yesterday.
Fair play to Dublin and especially Louth on getting over the line when both seemed improbable at stages. The Leinster championship looking in good health for the next few years which is great to see after years of facile Dublin victories.
After the Cork Mayo games I was worried about the quality of the quarter-finals. Probably a bit of blessing that was on GAA+ to be honest; a shame that the Kerry v Tyrone game wasn't available to the more casual GAA watcher.
Luckily the other 3 games were thrillers and decent watches for the neutral casual GAA fan.
Semis should be good too with Dublin v Kerry and Louth v Mayo.
Quote from: naka on June 29, 2026, 10:53:47 AMWas at the games
Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Most of monaghan's kickouts were 50-50. Still - that Louth CHB was some operator under them.
I would fancy Louth to beat Mayo but that is a great draw for both of them.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 29, 2026, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2026, 09:30:56 AMQuote from: Gael85 on June 29, 2026, 08:33:20 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Loving the rage baiting you have for Dublin. Gough lives in Slane and works in school in Inchicore, an area which would have no GAA tradition.
We have all seen pictures of David Gough standing beside Dublin players at his school on visits with the Sam Maguire. It's a compromising position refereeing a Dublin match.
There will always be subliminal decisions. I was as close to Neutral as I have ever been watching yesterday's game. Gough definitely gave Dublin the run of Green.
Whether he did or not, there is simply no need for the GAA to appoint him to Dublin games and have people suggesting that he might be biased.
The GAA had a referee doing a game last week in which his clubman was playing. They don't seem to put any thought into it.
Do GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
Quote from: GAA Club Fan on June 29, 2026, 11:13:11 AMDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 11:20:54 AMQuote from: GAA Club Fan on June 29, 2026, 11:13:11 AMDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Thanks sir
You need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
Don't think there was luck involved yesterday, gave an outstanding performance with 14 men for basically full game. They have really pushed on since first Dublin game.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
When Kerry badly needed a few scores on Saturday, they got the ball to Clifford and he done the exact same thing 2 times in a row and got a fisted point each time. He can be relatively quiet but then sparks into life when Kerry need him most.
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 29, 2026, 11:12:54 AMQuote from: armaghniac on June 29, 2026, 09:42:51 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2026, 09:30:56 AMQuote from: Gael85 on June 29, 2026, 08:33:20 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2026, 08:12:45 PMAs a neutral - I didn't want either Dublin or Galway to win. But at a push - I wanted Galway to lose.
With that in mind - how in the F*ck did David Gough get a Dublin game?
The lad lives and works in Dublin. He gave all the tight calls to Dublin.
There is no doubt about that.
Loving the rage baiting you have for Dublin. Gough lives in Slane and works in school in Inchicore, an area which would have no GAA tradition.
We have all seen pictures of David Gough standing beside Dublin players at his school on visits with the Sam Maguire. It's a compromising position refereeing a Dublin match.
There will always be subliminal decisions. I was as close to Neutral as I have ever been watching yesterday's game. Gough definitely gave Dublin the run of Green.
Whether he did or not, there is simply no need for the GAA to appoint him to Dublin games and have people suggesting that he might be biased.
The GAA had a referee doing a game last week in which his clubman was playing. They don't seem to put any thought into it.
You'd think there should be an unwritten custom that if teams from 2 Provinces are playing each other the Ref would be from one of the other 2 Provinces.
It beggars belief that people are criticising that performance. The team showed amazing determination, grit and skill. We were a hair's breadth in that match against a fantastic Kerry team, the best in the country, probably by a distance and has serious pedigree. Given where the team was when MOR took over, it's laughable to say there's been no progress, especially with such a young inexperienced team.
We were without the Canavans and yet if it weren't for multiple clear errors by the officials, and other debateable ones, the odds are we could have been in a semi final and well on the way to our fifth Sam Maguire. I thought the match was fantastic and the ref was good up until the closing stages, but disappointing that the officials made such clear errors and having such a bearing on the flow and outcome in the final minutes.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
the only time I can remember him being injured in 9 championship seasons so far is the ET against Tyrone in 2021.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on June 29, 2026, 11:58:57 AMIt beggars belief that people are criticising that performance. The team showed amazing determination, grit and skill. We were a hair's breadth in that match against a fantastic Kerry team, the best in the country, probably by a distance and has serious pedigree. Given where the team was when MOR took over, it's laughable to say there's been no progress, especially with such a young inexperienced team.
We were without the Canavans and yet if it weren't for multiple clear errors by the officials, and other debateable ones, the odds are we could have been in a semi final and well on the way to our fifth Sam Maguire. I thought the match was fantastic and the ref was good up until the closing stages, but disappointing that the officials made such clear errors and having such a bearing on the flow and outcome in the final minutes.
Will these two lads ever be free from injury. Maybe I'm wrong but they always seem to be carrying a knock of some description.
I thought Tyrone were excellent yesterday. Played a fast aggressive game and were unlucky with refereeing decisions a few times late in the game.
Quote from: marty34 on June 29, 2026, 12:02:53 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on June 29, 2026, 11:58:57 AMIt beggars belief that people are criticising that performance. The team showed amazing determination, grit and skill. We were a hair's breadth in that match against a fantastic Kerry team, the best in the country, probably by a distance and has serious pedigree. Given where the team was when MOR took over, it's laughable to say there's been no progress, especially with such a young inexperienced team.
We were without the Canavans and yet if it weren't for multiple clear errors by the officials, and other debateable ones, the odds are we could have been in a semi final and well on the way to our fifth Sam Maguire. I thought the match was fantastic and the ref was good up until the closing stages, but disappointing that the officials made such clear errors and having such a bearing on the flow and outcome in the final minutes.
Will these two lads ever be free from injury. Maybe I'm wrong but they always seem to be carrying a knock of some description.
I thought Tyrone were excellent yesterday. Played a fast aggressive game and were unlucky with refereeing decisions a few times late in the game.
It does seem that way with the Canavans. Ruairi hasn't done it yet in a senior jersey so not sure I would count him as a key absentee on Saturday. Not having Darragh was a blow though.
Quote from: statto on June 29, 2026, 11:52:48 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
Don't think there was luck involved yesterday, gave an outstanding performance with 14 men for basically full game. They have really pushed on since first Dublin game.
Got the rub of the green with Armagh and Monaghan's goal keepers being missing, but have been outstanding. Any winning team needs a few things to go their way
Quote from: marty34 on June 29, 2026, 12:02:53 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on June 29, 2026, 11:58:57 AMIt beggars belief that people are criticising that performance. The team showed amazing determination, grit and skill. We were a hair's breadth in that match against a fantastic Kerry team, the best in the country, probably by a distance and has serious pedigree. Given where the team was when MOR took over, it's laughable to say there's been no progress, especially with such a young inexperienced team.
We were without the Canavans and yet if it weren't for multiple clear errors by the officials, and other debateable ones, the odds are we could have been in a semi final and well on the way to our fifth Sam Maguire. I thought the match was fantastic and the ref was good up until the closing stages, but disappointing that the officials made such clear errors and having such a bearing on the flow and outcome in the final minutes.
Will these two lads ever be free from injury. Maybe I'm wrong but they always seem to be carrying a knock of some description.
The two Canavans do seem very injury-prone - Darragh in particular seems to have had a laundry list of aliments. Given how many different injuries he's had at his relatively young age, you wonder how long his body will hold together. Dad didn't exactly have the greatest luck in terms of injuries when he was playing so I could definitely see some of it being down to genetics.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2026, 12:12:48 PMQuote from: statto on June 29, 2026, 11:52:48 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
Don't think there was luck involved yesterday, gave an outstanding performance with 14 men for basically full game. They have really pushed on since first Dublin game.
Got the rub of the green with Armagh and Monaghan's goal keepers being missing, but have been outstanding. Any winning team needs a few things to go their way
I'd say every team will get some sort of luck in a game but the winning teams will be the ones who are better at taking advantage of it.
QuoteQuoteDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Can you watch one of those QFs For Free , even though you didn't originally pay for it?
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 11:20:54 AMQuote from: GAA Club Fan on June 29, 2026, 11:13:11 AMDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Did GAA+ ever show full games for free at a later date? Like if you went onto the site on a Wednesday or something?
I think someone said something to me about it once a few years back (maybe was it during COVID?) but I can't remember for sure.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 29, 2026, 12:25:33 PMQuoteQuoteDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Can you watch one of those QFs For Free , even though you didn't originally pay for it?
I was typing and didn't see your post.
I think someone who had an account with gaa+ when it was GAAgo said something to me a few years ago about logging into their GAAgp account and being able to watch a game they hadn't paid for back.
You'd think that it would be some good/cheap/easy PR for GAA+ to do this.
The numbers taking advantage of it probably wouldn't be huge but it would cost either very little or nothing.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 29, 2026, 12:31:59 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 29, 2026, 12:25:33 PMQuoteQuoteDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Can you watch one of those QFs For Free , even though you didn't originally pay for it?
I was typing and didn't see your post.
I think someone who had an account with gaa+ when it was GAAgo said something to me a few years ago about logging into their GAAgp account and being able to watch a game they hadn't paid for back.
You'd think that it would be some good/cheap/easy PR for GAA+ to do this.
The numbers taking advantage of it probably wouldn't be huge but it would cost either very little or nothing.
What exactly is the issue here, the games are generally free midweek onwards.
Quote from: naka on June 29, 2026, 10:53:47 AMWas at the games
Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth are a better balanced team to Mayo.
But i think Mayo's forwards will get them over he line and it covers up any weaknesses they may have out the field. They have serious quality in that FF Line and are only 2nd to Kerry in that regard in my opinion.
The 45 people are complaining that Kerry got was an absolutely blatant foot block, wasn't it? Are people ignoring this or is there an argument in the other direction? Maybe the rule has been changed from this?
QuoteRULE 5 - AGGRESSIVE FOULS
Category 1 – Related Infractions
5.1 To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 29, 2026, 11:08:49 AMQuote from: naka on June 29, 2026, 10:53:47 AMWas at the games
Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 29, 2026, 01:18:14 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 05:58:25 PMQuote from: JoG2 on June 28, 2026, 05:10:38 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2026, 04:50:53 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 28, 2026, 04:41:41 PMLooks like Galway have absolutely no kickout strategy
So many that was tipping Galway to win Sam was strangely ignoring their goalkeeper and defensively issues. Joyce a lucky general so won't rule them out winning today however Kerry would ease past them should they meet.
Joyce has lucked out with having a healthy squad the last number of years that's for sure 😬
No excuse every team has injuries. The lucky general ran out of it today in what could be his final match managing Galway.
Eye opener for all those who thought All-Ireland was in that Galway team.
Missed the last 15 mins as I had to go out for the night,so just catching up.
Dublin penalty wasn't the correct call imo, Galway defender right in front and Galway should have had a penalty...if Joyce is lucky, you can take that luck to the street, no thanks
The rule states "preventing a goalscoring opportunity" Where the foul happened and Galway defender Hernon wouldn't have got round to stop that goalscoring chance.
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Was Maher fouled or slipped in that other incident? Gough it appears thought the latter then brought it back for the previous foul a two-pointer free which Shane Walsh missed.
Can debate about such incidents however after both Galway was still 1 point in front with six minutes remaining.
Galway will have to look at themselves for how they lost, scoring 0-1 in the last 15 minutes against a Dublin team playing their 3rd match in 14 days including extra time last week was simply not good enough especially for one rated as highly as Galway have been in the media and indeed by a number of posters on here.
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Quote from: square_ball on June 29, 2026, 11:55:02 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
When Kerry badly needed a few scores on Saturday, they got the ball to Clifford and he done the exact same thing 2 times in a row and got a fisted point each time. He can be relatively quiet but then sparks into life when Kerry need him most.
Yep definitely felt a bit like them drowning and he throws them the aul life preserver.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 01:04:50 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 29, 2026, 11:55:02 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
When Kerry badly needed a few scores on Saturday, they got the ball to Clifford and he done the exact same thing 2 times in a row and got a fisted point each time. He can be relatively quiet but then sparks into life when Kerry need him most.
Yep definitely felt a bit like them drowning and he throws them the aul life preserver.
Unreal. One (slight) criticism would be surely he could be an option for a kickout the very odd time if they're really under pressure with the size of him and leap he has. That last kickout (although he did end up getting on the ball) surely you try to open up the middle and launch one down his throat? He'd be very well rested compared to others given he never tracks back beyond the half way line
Didn't realise it live but that Keith Evans block on McKernan is one of the best I've ever seen. How he changes direction like that I don't know. Very likely that one goes over to level the game
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2026, 01:17:31 PMDidn't realise it live but that Keith Evans block on McKernan is one of the best I've ever seen. How he changes direction like that I don't know. Very likely that one goes over to level the game
That was unreal. Bought the dummy but showed great desire to get down on the ball. Fantastic effort.
Quote from: Main Street on June 29, 2026, 12:50:22 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 29, 2026, 11:08:49 AMQuote from: naka on June 29, 2026, 10:53:47 AMWas at the games
Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2026, 01:14:40 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 01:04:50 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 29, 2026, 11:55:02 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
When Kerry badly needed a few scores on Saturday, they got the ball to Clifford and he done the exact same thing 2 times in a row and got a fisted point each time. He can be relatively quiet but then sparks into life when Kerry need him most.
Yep definitely felt a bit like them drowning and he throws them the aul life preserver.
Unreal. One (slight) criticism would be surely he could be an option for a kickout the very odd time if they're really under pressure with the size of him and leap he has. That last kickout (although he did end up getting on the ball) surely you try to open up the middle and launch one down his throat? He'd be very well rested compared to others given he never tracks back beyond the half way line
Funny you mention the kickout - just saw a stat there that 16 different Kerry players won possession from a kickout in their game. That was probably on both Kerry and Tyrone kickouts but I don't think Kerry are short of kickout options.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 29, 2026, 01:53:17 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 29, 2026, 01:14:40 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 01:04:50 PMQuote from: square_ball on June 29, 2026, 11:55:02 AMQuote from: bennydorano on June 29, 2026, 11:48:34 AMYou need luck to win anything, Louth have certainly been getting their fair share, but good luck to them, they've overcome any adversity they've faced to date. They'll be very confident of taking Mayo.
Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
When Kerry badly needed a few scores on Saturday, they got the ball to Clifford and he done the exact same thing 2 times in a row and got a fisted point each time. He can be relatively quiet but then sparks into life when Kerry need him most.
Yep definitely felt a bit like them drowning and he throws them the aul life preserver.
Unreal. One (slight) criticism would be surely he could be an option for a kickout the very odd time if they're really under pressure with the size of him and leap he has. That last kickout (although he did end up getting on the ball) surely you try to open up the middle and launch one down his throat? He'd be very well rested compared to others given he never tracks back beyond the half way line
Funny you mention the kickout - just saw a stat there that 16 different Kerry players won possession from a kickout in their game. That was probably on both Kerry and Tyrone kickouts but I don't think Kerry are short of kickout options.
Yeah they're not short is right, just a thought that occurred to me at the time why not have him as an option when under pressure which they were for that last one, worked out alright in the end though.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 29, 2026, 01:36:00 PMQuote from: Main Street on June 29, 2026, 12:50:22 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on June 29, 2026, 11:08:49 AMQuote from: naka on June 29, 2026, 10:53:47 AMWas at the games
Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
I'm not saying he had a bad game - it was a tough spot for the lad to come into and while they might have won 60% of their own kickouts, if you looked at all the kickouts over the 4 games at the weekend, there's clearly degrees of quality in terms of a won kickout. One thing for a team to win a kickout under serious pressure from the oppostion facing your own goal with no good options to get it forward by foot or by hand compared to being pinged the ball running forward into space with options around you.
A lot of those 60% of won kickouts were at the poorer end of the scale in terms of setting up easy go-forward ball.
I think the problem for Monaghan was that it was a drop-off from the likely extremely high level of overall kickouts they would have got from Beggan.
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No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
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Thanks sir
Depends where you are. If I'm logged in the Republic there's a different offering to what's available in the North and logging in in GB changes things again.
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Kerry are also lucky that David Clifford is a phenomenon that stays largely injury free, having a player like that means you can afford to be brave with everything you do or want to try - a point the Pods/media rarely seem to mention.
When Kerry badly needed a few scores on Saturday, they got the ball to Clifford and he done the exact same thing 2 times in a row and got a fisted point each time. He can be relatively quiet but then sparks into life when Kerry need him most.
Yep definitely felt a bit like them drowning and he throws them the aul life preserver.
Unreal. One (slight) criticism would be surely he could be an option for a kickout the very odd time if they're really under pressure with the size of him and leap he has. That last kickout (although he did end up getting on the ball) surely you try to open up the middle and launch one down his throat? He'd be very well rested compared to others given he never tracks back beyond the half way line
Funny you mention the kickout - just saw a stat there that 16 different Kerry players won possession from a kickout in their game. That was probably on both Kerry and Tyrone kickouts but I don't think Kerry are short of kickout options.
Yeah they're not short is right, just a thought that occurred to me at the time why not have him as an option when under pressure which they were for that last one, worked out alright in the end though.
The more I think about it 16 different players on one team winning a kickout in a game really does show how the game has changed. There's probably a fair chunk of teams in the past that wouldn't have 16 different players winning a kickout over an entire championship, possibly even a year.
Someone last week was saying about Kerry playing with 4 midfielders but I think this says a ton about how hard it is to defend kickouts when pretty much every player on the pitch is a possible target as long as the keeper has a decent kick.
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Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
Would you not be disappointed with 60% on own kickouts with an extra man for most of game in Croke Park? You would imagine Beggan is getting north of 80% in same scenario.
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Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
Would you not be disappointed with 60% on own kickouts with an extra man for most of game in Croke Park? You would imagine Beggan is getting north of 80% in same scenario.
ah he absolutely is. The young lad was never going to be anywhere close to Beggan, but he did as well as probably could be expected for a cub being thrown in at the deep end so fair play to him.
Beggan not just another keeper to replace as he brings so much to that team.
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Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
Would you not be disappointed with 60% on own kickouts with an extra man for most of game in Croke Park? You would imagine Beggan is getting north of 80% in same scenario.
Perhaps though once you are 60% or over on your kickouts you generally have a decent platform to win. I think the issues was elsewhere with Monaghan's yesterday.
Galway meanwhile was 48% on their own kickouts and once you fall below 50 it's uphill challenge to win.
Quote from: statto on June 29, 2026, 02:12:13 PMDid Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency
I think this could have been part of it too. Monaghan were 4 up when the red card happened. The chat all season is that a team with 14 men have no chance with the new rules. It had to have seeped into the Monaghan psyche.
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Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
Would you not be disappointed with 60% on own kickouts with an extra man for most of game in Croke Park? You would imagine Beggan is getting north of 80% in same scenario.
ah he absolutely is. The young lad was never going to be anywhere close to Beggan, but he did as well as probably could be expected for a cub being thrown in at the deep end so fair play to him.
Beggan not just another keeper to replace as he brings so much to that team.
Not the goalie's fault.
Monaghan butchered some very good goal chances during the game. If you're not clinical on them chances, you let the opposition stay in the game.
That was a disaster, so many wrong decisions, from players, management and the referee. Can't understand taking off Molloy, he was having one of his best games in a long time and to replace him with Mulkerrin was a terrible decision. Gleeson is getting an awful lot of stick but in his defence, where were all Galway's big men? Tierney was anonymous, Conroy faded badly, when Darcy made himself available and looked for the ball he caught it, our ability to win breaking ball in those situations is terrible, it's not all on Gleeson.
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The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Can Armagh claim a Bronze medal out of it?
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Getting a team in their 1st semi-final since 1957 is fortune enough. After losing to Tyrone they got good fortune to draw Division 2 opposition in Meath who went to pieces with 14 men and Cork who's shooting was woeful.
Louth's season has similar vibes to Fermanagh in 04 who Mayo narrowly beat in the semi-final after a replay.
Fermanagh beat Armagh in the q4 and meant that Armagh team won just the 1 Sam.
A lot of counties would bite your hand off for one Sam
That Armagh team had the quality to win 2 and it was qualifiers.
I think I saw a documentary where the goalie said that Fermanagh was the
game they really should have won.
Any ETA on tickets?
16 different Kerry players won possession from kickouts either clean or via breaks is stat I saw. Everyone focuses on the finishers but that ball winning capacity is key and why I give the Dubs a fair chance at it.
My ideal outcome is Dub V Mayo/Louth and Mayo /Louth winner.
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The final between the only two teams to beat Armagh, that would be reasonable.
Can Armagh claim a Bronze medal out of it?
Quote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 07:14:19 PMTo be fair Louth are the only unbeaten team of the four. So I suppose they have been pretty formidable to date. Would love to see them in a final but Mayo might be due good fortune. Would be happy for either to make the final.
Getting a team in their 1st semi-final since 1957 is fortune enough. After losing to Tyrone they got good fortune to draw Division 2 opposition in Meath who went to pieces with 14 men and Cork who's shooting was woeful.
Louth's season has similar vibes to Fermanagh in 04 who Mayo narrowly beat in the semi-final after a replay.
Fermanagh beat Armagh in the q4 and meant that Armagh team won just the 1 Sam.
A lot of counties would bite your hand off for one Sam
That Armagh team had the quality to win 2 and it was qualifiers.
I think I saw a documentary where the goalie said that Fermanagh was the
game they really should have won.
Yeah it was there for us that year. 2003 and 2005 were sickeners obviously. 2006 we were well beat and then Mattie Forde was unreal in 2008.
Should definitely have won at least another with that team. Will be a bit of a disappointment if we don't get beyond a quarter final again with this team at the minute
Just watched the Keith Evan's block onGAA fb. The angle they have is class. What a block.
Only caveat is that he was helped by the arc as if it was at a different time of match or inside arc McKernan would take another step to take him out of play but he had to stop himself to ensure staying outside the arc.
In saying all that it's a great example of desire, determination and will to win. A great example for youngsters!
Cringed when McKernan decided to go for it but suppose no one else would.
A shame McCurry didnt get lined up
Quote from: Duine Eile on June 29, 2026, 02:32:22 PMThat was a disaster, so many wrong decisions, from players, management and the referee. Can't understand taking off Molloy, he was having one of his best games in a long time and to replace him with Mulkerrin was a terrible decision. Gleeson is getting an awful lot of stick but in his defence, where were all Galway's big men? Tierney was anonymous, Conroy faded badly, when Darcy made himself available and looked for the ball he caught it, our ability to win breaking ball in those situations is terrible, it's not all on Gleeson.
McDaid brutal. Its a bad sign when guys are giving it to Molloy to score tbh even though he was doing fine.
Walsh ran into 3 Dubs at one stage. Crazy decision...he may have got a free but ref seems to think he was buying one.
Did McKernan not score a good point (or was it 2 pointer) on saturday? I don't think you could expect Keith Evans to turn the way he did and block it - I dunno how he didn't dislocate his knee or something the shape he went into.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 03:41:48 PMCringed when McKernan decided to go for it but suppose no one else would.
A shame McCurry didnt get lined up
McKernan well able to hit them unreal block but yeah if he wasn't going for a 2 pointer he could have taken it past Evans
Hes been hit and miss but every chance he would have nailed it...
Kerry won 20 long kickouts. Tyrone 11.
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Quote from: Duine Eile on June 29, 2026, 02:32:22 PMThat was a disaster, so many wrong decisions, from players, management and the referee. Can't understand taking off Molloy, he was having one of his best games in a long time and to replace him with Mulkerrin was a terrible decision. Gleeson is getting an awful lot of stick but in his defence, where were all Galway's big men? Tierney was anonymous, Conroy faded badly, when Darcy made himself available and looked for the ball he caught it, our ability to win breaking ball in those situations is terrible, it's not all on Gleeson.
Been very critical of Molloy this year but he had his best game in 5 years.
Gleeson not good enough but that's on the manager who picks as is the lack of movement/structure in front of Gleeson. Short one was on several times in first half and he just continued to go long.
1-21 is a good return from the amount of primary possession they won, think it was 12 kickouts more the Dubs won.
Joyce has indicated he'll stay which has surprised me, if he does a new coach along with a new keeper is a must.
Galway needs to hit reset and refresh
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 10:30:18 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 10:05:25 PMI realise I'm foolish going up against a solicitor but I'll give it a go. 😂. I can't see any result in the current All Ireland series where Dublin beat Louth by ten points. It may happen in the final but my crystal balls a bit cloudy.
Not sure who the solicitor is but in case you are referring to me (I am not a solicitor) I think the answer to the question whether they are completely separate competitions is answered by 6.12 of the official guide:
The Championships shall be organised as follows: INTER-COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS
(A) All-Ireland Senior Football Championship:
(i) Provincial Championships These Championships shall be played on a Knockout Format. Group or 'RoundRobin' Formats may not be used.
(ii) Tier 1 (Sam Maguire Cup)
So the Provincial Championship and Sam Maguire Cup as they call it make up the All Ireland Senior Football Championship.
So on a technical level Dublin have beaten Louth in the All Ireland Senior Football Championship this year but not in the Sam Maguire Cup as the rules call it
Apologies David, that was an assumption on my part. I had asked a legal question on the Dup thread directly to yourself. You had answered it and quite a few others. The tone of the other posts had led me to believe you were a solicitor. I will rephrase the original controversial post. Would it be fair to say of the sixteen teams entered in the Sam Maguire Cup Louth are the only side still unbeaten.
Quote from: naka on June 29, 2026, 10:53:47 AMJeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
15 vs 15 Louth would have won by 20 points.
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Amazing. I'd either pop a knee out or slip on my hole if I tried to turn like that or possibly both!
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Amazing. I'd either pop a knee out or slip on my hole if I tried to turn like that or possibly both!
I would have caught it👀
Also another point don't know if it was mentioned but McCurry and conn had a long enough conversation over the last free I thought they would have kicked it back outside arc and went for 2.
I imagine the conversation was kick it outside the arc and get the 2 I'll catch the kick out win a free and Morgan will kick us into SF without extra time and it will be a great day for edendork!
The way things where goin at midfield I think it was mad to think we could kick a one and still have another chance in 1 minute.
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
McKernan was rash and trying to keep outside the arc. McElholm passed to him and maybe didnt have space to have a go himself.
Louth appeal the red or can they?
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
Perhaps I'm getting all Roy Keane on it in my old age.... But was Evans not just doing his job?
I mean I'm not denying it wasn't athletic, and it was most certainly eye catching. But McKernan couldn't have made it any more obvious what he was going to do, had he written it in letters forty-foot high.
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Jeez Monaghan missed Beggan , he plays they win 99 times out of 100.
Fair play to Louth though they stuck in
Got lucky with keepers in last two games and I fancy them to do a job on Mayo
Second game though Galway were cruising after their goal and then simply crashed .
Would see a few of their veterans stepping back .
Louth really got lucky going from Beggan in goals to a 19 year old making his intercounty debut. There was a fairly stark difference in the overall quality of the kickouts which was made worse by Louth's big men around the middle. They also missed him as a scoring threat. Saw he scored 0-21 in the championship this year before yesterday.
Can see a lot of the older lads in Galway packing it in - they've a fair few over 30 at this stage ; especially as Joyce seemed stubborn about staying on in his post-match comments. Conroy, Comer, Walsh, Gleeson, Silke, and Molloy are all over the 30 mark and I'm could be missing more. Whatever about the penalty, Galway were 6 points up and let Dublin score 3 points in a row before the penalty to narrow the gap.
Of course Monaghan missed Beggan but them's the challenges in the game which Monaghan failed to meet on the day. Westmeath had their nr.3 keeper, a young lad in against us and he did grand. I think Mayo had a debutante against us. Monaghan needed to have a sub keeper ready to perform the kick outs especially in the last 1/4, the rest of the team there to support him and they failed against 14. For example the defensive tackling intensity in the 2nd half was píss poor, very standoffish. They needed to up the intensity as Mayo did v Meath.
I thought the young keeper did well stepping in for Beggan 60% on his kick outs and some good saves.
The very standoffish play mirrored what Roscommon did in Clones recently it was very surprising to see Monaghan do that in All-Ireland Quarter-final. Did Louth going down to 14 men bring some complacency or did the 3 games in 14 days use up a lot of the energy and Monaghan struggled to produce the
intensity they normally give in these knock out games?
Would you not be disappointed with 60% on own kickouts with an extra man for most of game in Croke Park? You would imagine Beggan is getting north of 80% in same scenario.
What matters in most games are the stats in the last 1/4 where teams go all out or teams are under pressure, in that last 1/4 Louth won the vital possessions from kick outs and were allowed to prance around without a hand being laid on them, the rest of the team should have stood up when needed to support the goalie, i.e. win possession back. Overall in that last 1/4 no player took the lead to get on the ball and inspire the team forward in complete contrast to the Louth men.
Quote from: Killala on June 29, 2026, 05:58:45 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2026, 10:30:18 PMQuote from: Killala on June 28, 2026, 10:05:25 PMI realise I'm foolish going up against a solicitor but I'll give it a go. 😂. I can't see any result in the current All Ireland series where Dublin beat Louth by ten points. It may happen in the final but my crystal balls a bit cloudy.
Not sure who the solicitor is but in case you are referring to me (I am not a solicitor) I think the answer to the question whether they are completely separate competitions is answered by 6.12 of the official guide:
The Championships shall be organised as follows: INTER-COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS
(A) All-Ireland Senior Football Championship:
(i) Provincial Championships These Championships shall be played on a Knockout Format. Group or 'RoundRobin' Formats may not be used.
(ii) Tier 1 (Sam Maguire Cup)
So the Provincial Championship and Sam Maguire Cup as they call it make up the All Ireland Senior Football Championship.
So on a technical level Dublin have beaten Louth in the All Ireland Senior Football Championship this year but not in the Sam Maguire Cup as the rules call it
Apologies David, that was an assumption on my part. I had asked a legal question on the Dup thread directly to yourself. You had answered it and quite a few others. The tone of the other posts had led me to believe you were a solicitor. I will rephrase the original controversial post. Would it be fair to say of the sixteen teams entered in the Sam Maguire Cup Louth are the only side still unbeaten.
Fair enough assumption but I'm not that side of the profession.
Yes in the Sam Maguire Cup portion of the All Ireland Championship they remain the only unbeaten side. However it's equally true to say in the All Ireland Championship both they and Kerry have only lost one game.
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
Gormleys block was ridiculous due to timing, denying McDonnell a likely goal to level the game 2mins from full time in an All Ireland final.
McKernan told entire Kerry defence he was about to shoot
The thing I think about kick out stats is that they don't really tell the whole story.
Take Armagh for example. With Hughes ability to disguise his kickouts and change direction in a split second Armagh where able to win a lot of uncontested possession in good areas with space to run. With Rafferty whilst Armagh still won a decent amount of possession it was more often in congested areas that didn't provide as good an attacking platform.
So when considering kickouts won I think where and how the kickouts were won are also very important.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 29, 2026, 11:43:03 PMPerhaps I'm getting all Roy Keane on it in my old age.... But was Evans not just doing his job?
I mean I'm not denying it wasn't athletic, and it was most certainly eye catching. But McKernan couldn't have made it any more obvious what he was going to do, had he written it in letters forty-foot high.
Look at the angle he turns and gets down. The power in the legs needed to do that and not fall on your arse is huge. Big difference in knowing he's going to shoot and actually making that block
So the free count from Sunday was 21-6 in Dublins favour, Galway every right to feel cheated. Countless frees for a Dublin player grabbing a Galways players arm and holding it in, thought refs were wise to this especially when it happened in full view of Gough. He was right in front of Conroy in the build up to the penalty when he went to grab a bouncing ball when the boot of a Dublin player came in, a free obvious free which he would given in the other direction.
Bad enough trying to win a game when the kickout out strategy stinks but you've got no chance with a ref like that.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 30, 2026, 01:40:33 AMThe thing I think about kick out stats is that they don't really tell the whole story.
Take Armagh for example. With Hughes ability to disguise his kickouts and change direction in a split second Armagh where able to win a lot of uncontested possession in good areas with space to run. With Rafferty whilst Armagh still won a decent amount of possession it was more often in congested areas that didn't provide as good an attacking platform.
So when considering kickouts won I think where and how the kickouts were won are also very important.
Agree with this
I believe
If Hughes played against Louth Armagh win
If Beggan played against Louth Monaghan win
Reality the congested season is causing more and more injuries across the board.
Chatting to a fair few guys who are involved with their respective counties and every one felt that the present set up is a death knell for the provincials which will become irrelevant if no change to set up.
Interesting also that we all agreed that there is probably only 3/4 decent referees with the rest being mediocre at best .
Who are the 3 or 4?
Hurson usually good but seems to have gone to feck lately. McNally a decent ref, should have had the common sense not to move that free up for Donegal but was right by the letter of the law. Falloon a good ref lets the game go.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2026, 09:10:40 AMHurson usually good but seems to have gone to feck lately. McNally a decent ref, should have had the common sense not to move that free up for Donegal but was right by the letter of the law. Falloon a good ref lets the game go.
Faloon, mc nally, Cawley , hurson and paddy neilan
All are decent in my eyes .
Quote from: thewobbler on June 29, 2026, 11:43:03 PMPerhaps I'm getting all Roy Keane on it in my old age.... But was Evans not just doing his job?
I mean I'm not denying it wasn't athletic, and it was most certainly eye catching. But McKernan couldn't have made it any more obvious what he was going to do, had he written it in letters forty-foot high.
Can't remember seeing too many blocks like this before, turning back like that.
No foul Faloon fairly dirtied his bib in the rhubarbs/royals game.
Quote from: GAA Club Fan on June 29, 2026, 11:41:42 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on June 29, 2026, 11:20:54 AMQuote from: GAA Club Fan on June 29, 2026, 11:13:11 AMDo GAA plus show the games in full at any stage this week or where can they be watched back?
No. The tapes go via Shannon to Hangar 51.
Jokes aside If you have GAA+ then you have access to replays for a while. Or pay €15 should work
https://www.gaaplus.ie/payment/PC15-26-F-AIQF2
Thanks sir
GAA+ has the games for free now so if you sign up now you can watch back weekends games they had plus a load of classics. They should be promoting this tbh.
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
Gormleys block was ridiculous due to timing, denying McDonnell a likely goal to level the game 2mins from full time in an All Ireland final.
McKernan told entire Kerry defence he was about to shoot
For sure if u consider when Gormley blocked the ball it was unbelievable. I was more talking about technique - the agility of this one is unmatched! This block will likely win Kerry an All Ireland also!
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
Gormleys block was ridiculous due to timing, denying McDonnell a likely goal to level the game 2mins from full time in an All Ireland final.
McKernan told entire Kerry defence he was about to shoot
For sure if u consider when Gormley blocked the ball it was unbelievable. I was more talking about technique - the agility of this one is unmatched! This block will likely win Kerry an All Ireland also!
Gormley came from absolutely nowhere that day too, the bastard.
Whos to say what way the Kerry Tyrone game goes if thats levels it, but it's almost certain Armagh win that day if Stevie gets that goal. Well Mugsy reckons so anyway.
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
Gormleys block was ridiculous due to timing, denying McDonnell a likely goal to level the game 2mins from full time in an All Ireland final.
McKernan told entire Kerry defence he was about to shoot
Au-contraire - McKernan shaped to shoot, shimmied, did a very quick turn inside which caused Evans to slip as he reacted to the turn and he still managed to execute the block despite slipping and his momentum going in the opposite direction.
McDonnell's shot was much more telegraphed, no change in direction or pace, just get the ball, take a few steps and whack it. Great block and great athleticism by Gormley, but Evans a level above.
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
It certainly looks better in slow motion and is a more agile block for sure but context matters. I was at the 2003 final (Laois minors were in the final) and you knew in that split second the match was on the line, it fell to one of the best forwards in the country and Gormley put his body on the line to help his county win their first ever All Ireland against their bitter rivals. It does not get bigger than that.
You can see it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCC6PxhkWzc&t=4834s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCC6PxhkWzc&t=4834s)
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You can talk about refs etc - that block won Kerry the game. That goes over Tyrone win it
Reminds of Conor Gormley's block on Stephen McDonald at the end of the 2003 All Ireland final. Unreal stuff
It's better than Gormley's block I'd say.
It certainly looks better in slow motion and is a more agile block for sure but context matters. I was at the 2003 final (Laois minors were in the final) and you knew in that split second the match was on the line, it fell to one of the best forwards in the country and Gormley put his body on the line to help his county win their first ever All Ireland against their bitter rivals. It does not get bigger than that.
You can see it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCC6PxhkWzc&t=4834s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCC6PxhkWzc&t=4834s)
Youtube should take that down. Traumatising.
Evans the better block in terms of how difficult it was and the aesthetics of it in slow motion, Gormleys obviously the bigger moment and more important.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2026, 12:05:10 PMEvans the better block in terms of how difficult it was and the aesthetics of it in slow motion, Gormleys obviously the bigger moment and more important.
Evans blocked the ball. Gormley hit the players leg as he was kicking it, so it should have been a 14m free, although this would not have affected the outcome as that passage of play led to a free anyhow.
Did Gormley even get the monument in Tyrone as Martin Carney proposed?
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2026, 12:17:12 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2026, 12:05:10 PMEvans the better block in terms of how difficult it was and the aesthetics of it in slow motion, Gormleys obviously the bigger moment and more important.
Evans blocked the ball. Gormley hit the players leg as he was kicking it, so it should have been a 14m free, although this would not have affected the outcome as that passage of play led to a free anyhow.
Did Gormley even get the monument in Tyrone as Martin Carney proposed?
For the avoidance of doubt. https://www.tiktok.com/@aroundthepanel/video/7530008818839735574
Conor Gormleys right hand strikes the ball. Yes the angle of his run and dive to get to it follows through but I see no real issue with that. No free and a great block.
Apologies for opening an old wound 😆
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2026, 08:16:31 AMSo the free count from Sunday was 21-6 in Dublins favour, Galway every right to feel cheated. Countless frees for a Dublin player grabbing a Galways players arm and holding it in, thought refs were wise to this especially when it happened in full view of Gough. He was right in front of Conroy in the build up to the penalty when he went to grab a bouncing ball when the boot of a Dublin player came in, a free obvious free which he would given in the other direction.
Bad enough trying to win a game when the kickout out strategy stinks but you've got no chance with a ref like that.
I've been looking for the free count since Sunday and found it very difficult to find for such a basic statistic.
I heard Joyce interview and I reckon hes a genius manager but none of the lads can comprehend what hes on about as
Tough fixture for them as the Dubs had their form flywheel spinning.
Least effort expended team acc to Philly Mac[citing Ray Boyne stats] but then he said the "effort" order was
1.kerry
2.dubs
3.tyrone
4. Galway
Would be interesting to see how they reach that conclusion tyrone turned over kerry but prob influenced by the kickout running.
The Monaghan fella that got the hit from the louth player suffered a broken jaw. He played on for 50 minutes too :o
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 30, 2026, 04:05:49 PMI heard Joyce interview and I reckon hes a genius manager but none of the lads can comprehend what hes on about as
Tough fixture for them as the Dubs had their form flywheel spinning.
Least effort expended team acc to Philly Mac[citing Ray Boyne stats] but then he said the "effort" order was
1.kerry
2.dubs
3.tyrone
4. Galway
Would be interesting to see how they reach that conclusion tyrone turned over kerry but prob influenced by the kickout running.
Philly McMahon & Sol Campbell have a lot in common, best ignored.
Truly. He was having a go at Mattie Donnellys "loser mentality" LMAO
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on June 30, 2026, 12:33:03 PMQuote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2026, 12:17:12 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2026, 12:05:10 PMEvans the better block in terms of how difficult it was and the aesthetics of it in slow motion, Gormleys obviously the bigger moment and more important.
Evans blocked the ball. Gormley hit the players leg as he was kicking it, so it should have been a 14m free, although this would not have affected the outcome as that passage of play led to a free anyhow.
Did Gormley even get the monument in Tyrone as Martin Carney proposed?
For the avoidance of doubt. https://www.tiktok.com/@aroundthepanel/video/7530008818839735574
Conor Gormleys right hand strikes the ball. Yes the angle of his run and dive to get to it follows through but I see no real issue with that. No free and a great block.
More important than Gormley's block was the dive to get Marsden sent off; a Sam Maguire winning dive.
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 30, 2026, 04:40:43 PMTruly. He was having a go at Mattie Donnellys "loser mentality" LMAO
He never once said those words. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.
That was the clear implication. Tyrone did not go down to take part and he based it on a reaction Mattie gave to Mugsy.
"Tyrone wur gallantly lewzers. Chuckie ar la mindset"
Tried to get the accent right. McCurry and Mattie were having a laugh with their kids ffs and no guarantee they will ever play in CP again.
Lets be serious though, its Philly Mc!
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2026, 12:17:12 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2026, 12:05:10 PMEvans the better block in terms of how difficult it was and the aesthetics of it in slow motion, Gormleys obviously the bigger moment and more important.
Evans blocked the ball. Gormley hit the players leg as he was kicking it, so it should have been a 14m free, although this would not have affected the outcome as that passage of play led to a free anyhow.
Did Gormley even get the monument in Tyrone as Martin Carney proposed?
Surely by that logic it's a penalty? Was inside the square? No foul for me!
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 30, 2026, 05:06:51 PMThat was the clear implication. Tyrone did not go down to take part and he based it on a reaction Mattie gave to Mugsy.
"Tyrone wur gallantly lewzers. Chuckie ar la mindset"
Tried to get the accent right. McCurry and Mattie were having a laugh with their kids ffs and no guarantee they will ever play in CP again.
Lets be serious though, its Philly Mc!
Did he mention KPIs?
Ger Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Quote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
If David Clifford gets 9 shots off next week like he did in the all ireland final in 2023 he'll get at least 10 points. Fitzsimmons didn't do as well as people make out in that final.
Quote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Seán Meehan kept him scoreless when Kerry beat Cork by 22 points in 2021.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2026, 08:23:17 AMQuote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Clifford had a couple of bad days with him and Chrissy McKeague in 24 under the old rules. I actually though Armagh did well on him last year in the 1st half but it was Seanie O'Se and others that stepped up and that gave him a bit more space in the 2nd half.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2026, 04:06:38 PMThe Monaghan fella that got the hit from the louth player suffered a broken jaw. He played on for 50 minutes too :o
Mental! And people trying to claim it wasn't a red card as well. Wooly has a video on twitter saying "he's not off his feet" then it cuts to a video of the Louth man off his feet with his shoulder on the jaw!
Red all day long!
Quote from: clonian on July 01, 2026, 09:27:39 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2026, 08:23:17 AMQuote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Clifford had a couple of bad days with him and Chrissy McKeague in 24 under the old rules. I actually though Armagh did well on him last year in the 1st half but it was Seanie O'Se and others that stepped up and that gave him a bit more space in the 2nd half.
McKaigue was tight on him but he still did him quite a few times. It's really damage limitation there.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 30, 2026, 03:42:41 PMQuote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2026, 08:16:31 AMSo the free count from Sunday was 21-6 in Dublins favour, Galway every right to feel cheated. Countless frees for a Dublin player grabbing a Galways players arm and holding it in, thought refs were wise to this especially when it happened in full view of Gough. He was right in front of Conroy in the build up to the penalty when he went to grab a bouncing ball when the boot of a Dublin player came in, a free obvious free which he would given in the other direction.
Bad enough trying to win a game when the kickout out strategy stinks but you've got no chance with a ref like that.
I've been looking for the free count since Sunday and found it very difficult to find for such a basic statistic.
Gough getting off very lightly in the media, Galway don't really have any cheerleaders in the media/podcasts to go after him.
If Kerry/Dublin we're on the receiving of that you'd never hear the end of it.
Quote from: screenexile on July 01, 2026, 09:38:19 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2026, 04:06:38 PMThe Monaghan fella that got the hit from the louth player suffered a broken jaw. He played on for 50 minutes too :o
Mental! And people trying to claim it wasn't a red card as well. Wooly has a video on twitter saying "he's not off his feet" then it cuts to a video of the Louth man off his feet with his shoulder on the jaw!
Red all day long!
We can safely say the ref got that call right then!
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2026, 08:23:17 AMQuote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Was a poster on here a few weeks ago saying McCambridge exposed by the new rules - would be curious to know what people think of that. It's strange how little football he got this year, I know someone who played Sigerson with him at UUJ and couldn't believe how good a year he had in 2024, didn't rate him that highly at all. Has to be said though, he did have some season can't really be argued against. Be interesting to see how he goes the next few years if there might be something in the new rules not suiting him
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 01, 2026, 11:47:01 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2026, 08:23:17 AMQuote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Was a poster on here a few weeks ago saying McCambridge exposed by the new rules - would be curious to know what people think of that. It's strange how little football he got this year, I know someone who played Sigerson with him at UUJ and couldn't believe how good a year he had in 2024, didn't rate him that highly at all. Has to be said though, he did have some season can't really be argued against. Be interesting to see how he goes the next few years if there might be something in the new rules not suiting him
Don't remember him being especially poor in 2025 bar struggling with Clifford which I'll not hold against him. Always rated him highly and was puzzled why he wasn't getting more game time pre that Derry game in 2024. Has struggled with injury since the club championship in 2025 and apparently was poor enough for the club at the weekend which probably explains why he didn't get any game time for Armagh this year- not fit.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 01, 2026, 11:47:01 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2026, 08:23:17 AMQuote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Was a poster on here a few weeks ago saying McCambridge exposed by the new rules - would be curious to know what people think of that. It's strange how little football he got this year, I know someone who played Sigerson with him at UUJ and couldn't believe how good a year he had in 2024, didn't rate him that highly at all. Has to be said though, he did have some season can't really be argued against. Be interesting to see how he goes the next few years if there might be something in the new rules not suiting him
As they tweak the rules to try to bring them back to the way football was, I would say a lot of county players will be "exposed", especially defenders.
For the last few years swarming the back line was the thing to do, man marking defenders had a reasonably easier job, now it is slightly harder and they are being caught out. It is a forwards game now.
For a while, average footballers with a good engines would appear to be better than they were. Seeing a lot of the ball, getting on the end of scores etc. Their skills masked by their ability to stand in space around the D and counter at pace (all essential in the current game of course).
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 01, 2026, 11:47:01 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2026, 08:23:17 AMQuote from: highorlow on July 01, 2026, 01:34:09 AMGer Brennan was in The (Cuala) Hyde tonight, likely getting advice from Mick Fitz on how to mark D.Clifford, it'd be interesting to find out who kept Clifford to his lowest score.
MF probably heads the table.
Barry McCambridge kept him to a point from play in 2024 and got a goal himself, not sure many have done much better. Unfortunately Clifford tore him a new arse in 2025.
Was a poster on here a few weeks ago saying McCambridge exposed by the new rules - would be curious to know what people think of that. It's strange how little football he got this year, I know someone who played Sigerson with him at UUJ and couldn't believe how good a year he had in 2024, didn't rate him that highly at all. Has to be said though, he did have some season can't really be argued against. Be interesting to see how he goes the next few years if there might be something in the new rules not suiting him
exposed would be harsh Id say. He played a brilliant role for us in a system that was designed round the old rules. I dont think Amragh, as a team, have got to grips with the new rules yet
New rules suit people who can play football with skill.
Old rules suited athletes who train up to the standard which put so many off.
When you look at who was missing for Armagh they had a damn good year and shouldnt be too disheartened.
How would this kerry side do minus their talisman DC and two midfielders?
It's not just about individuals though it's about tactics as a team.
I think Kerry would still be very close to being the best about without DC. Dylan Geaney now a serious player then you have Paudie Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Paul Geaney not half bad etc.
Tyrone also did a very good job on Joe O'Connor this year. He's a serious operator.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 01:34:53 PMNew rules suit people who can play football with skill.
Old rules suited athletes who train up to the standard which put so many off.
When you look at who was missing for Armagh they had a damn good year and shouldnt be too disheartened.
How would this kerry side do minus their talisman DC and two midfielders?
All the top players still have to be serious athletes still, look at Clifford. Unbelievable skill wise and athletically a freak, still looks like a minor playing u14's at times. O'Connor another animal of a man as are the 2 big midfielders.
Main men Armagh missed this year were Rian- who similar to Clifford is a machine athletically and skill wise as well, Crealey who'd be useful for his size/strength than his skill and Grugan who has a serious engine on him (at his best anyway)but main attribute would be his brain/skill rather than brawn.
Take Clifford out and they're a different team, yes the other lads are superb footballers but with Clifford you're looking at probably the best to ever do it, the other team are starting 8 points down most weeks with him there.
Well at this juncture in the sport all the guys are top fitness wise. Would agree Kerrys kickout movement and understanding is like something like youd see in NFL.
Would love to know how many set plays and running patterns can be called upon and how the signalling works.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 01:34:53 PMNew rules suit people who can play football with skill.
Old rules suited athletes who train up to the standard which put so many off.
When you look at who was missing for Armagh they had a damn good year and shouldnt be too disheartened.
How would this kerry side do minus their talisman DC and two midfielders?
Athletes are more required now than ever, under the old rules you could get by a few tall cumbersome players in your side.
Kerry especially in championship knock out games are the most structured team. You'll see them conceding less the All-Ireland semi-final and final now that they have a two week break between games.
The Armagh issues from last year when making a championship exit to Kerry and conceding 0-32 was never addressed however it's transitional period for Armagh and winning Ulster and retained Division 1 status is something to build on.
Kerry have more kickers and more top forwards. They also have really tightened up their defense Ultimately they are better. This Kerry team would have ended up thriving on the old rules too I would suspect.
Also they are pretty cute with the kickouts and the screening etc etc.
Looks like Louth v Mayo All-Ireland semi-final is already sold out. I wonder did the Tailteann Cup Finalist get their hands on many tickets?
No tickets for either game now on ticketmaster.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 01, 2026, 04:52:43 PMLooks like Louth v Mayo All-Ireland semi-final is already sold out. I wonder did the Tailteann Cup Finalist get their hands on many tickets?
Good question. Not sure of allocation. I logged on at 11.50 and was put in a Q. 8k infront of me and all that was left were hill and Davin. Clun allocation was probably All cusack and hogan. I doubt tailteann got more than 5k each to the county board
All gone for both days on ticketmaster
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 02:28:06 PMWell at this juncture in the sport all the guys are top fitness wise. Would agree Kerrys kickout movement and understanding is like something like youd see in NFL.
Would love to know how many set plays and running patterns can be called upon and how the signalling works.
This is what puzzles me. Given how important it is to win your own kick out, and the dire consequences when you get it totally wrong, why aren't teams running set plays - like a QB passing to a WR?
Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would script the first 20-30 offensive plays before each 49er game. Can't GAA teams prepare in a similar way?
Is it impractical to huddle quickly before each kickout then send the 11 players out to run a set play like wide receivers?
Quote from: EoinW on July 02, 2026, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 02:28:06 PMWell at this juncture in the sport all the guys are top fitness wise. Would agree Kerrys kickout movement and understanding is like something like youd see in NFL.
Would love to know how many set plays and running patterns can be called upon and how the signalling works.
This is what puzzles me. Given how important it is to win your own kick out, and the dire consequences when you get it totally wrong, why aren't teams running set plays - like a QB passing to a WR?
Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would script the first 20-30 offensive plays before each 49er game. Can't GAA teams prepare in a similar way?
Is it impractical to huddle quickly before each kickout then send the 11 players out to run a set play like wide receivers?
I think most teams do but they are just limited in their imagination. I know we were doing it nearly 30 years ago and had about 7-8 set plays for kick outs. I have tried to get other teams coached the same way but the appetite wasn't there for it! Most games have at least 50 kickouts, for and against. Easiest set ups to managew
They absolutely do. Just wondered how detailed it is and what degree of autonomy players have.
Its likely Kerrys all star goalkeeper will not feature at all in this years quest for Sam. Murphy could well get his own all star to boot.
Darren O Sullivan claimed Murphy has also been nursing an injury all year...which was kept very quiet and hes getting flak for revealing it.
I've heard McGeeney giving off about the Carton house fiasco a few times, he referenced some intensive work being missed- I've been assuming its the special teams (set pieces) type stuff (as American football would call it) that he was talking about.
Quote from: EoinW on July 02, 2026, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 02:28:06 PMWell at this juncture in the sport all the guys are top fitness wise. Would agree Kerrys kickout movement and understanding is like something like youd see in NFL.
Would love to know how many set plays and running patterns can be called upon and how the signalling works.
This is what puzzles me. Given how important it is to win your own kick out, and the dire consequences when you get it totally wrong, why aren't teams running set plays - like a QB passing to a WR?
Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would script the first 20-30 offensive plays before each 49er game. Can't GAA teams prepare in a similar way?
Is it impractical to huddle quickly before each kickout then send the 11 players out to run a set play like wide receivers?
Comparing GAA to NFL in terms of setting up a playbook is something of a stretch.
In NFL:
after each stoppage, all defensive players line up in roughly the same formation.
Roughly half of those players hold a horizontal line at the restart, and will never go deeper than that line.
It is perfectly within the rules for attackers to block the runs of defenders.
And even with the advantages created here in terms of set plays, teams go 4 and out more often than they score.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 02, 2026, 04:29:08 PMQuote from: EoinW on July 02, 2026, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 02:28:06 PMWell at this juncture in the sport all the guys are top fitness wise. Would agree Kerrys kickout movement and understanding is like something like youd see in NFL.
Would love to know how many set plays and running patterns can be called upon and how the signalling works.
This is what puzzles me. Given how important it is to win your own kick out, and the dire consequences when you get it totally wrong, why aren't teams running set plays - like a QB passing to a WR?
Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would script the first 20-30 offensive plays before each 49er game. Can't GAA teams prepare in a similar way?
Is it impractical to huddle quickly before each kickout then send the 11 players out to run a set play like wide receivers?
Comparing GAA to NFL in terms of setting up a playbook is something of a stretch.
In NFL:
after each stoppage, all defensive players line up in roughly the same formation.
Roughly half of those players hold a horizontal line at the restart, and will never go deeper than that line.
It is perfectly within the rules for attackers to block the runs of defenders.
And even with the advantages created here in terms of set plays, teams go 4 and out more often than they score.
Thank you. American football I know. Gaelic football I don't know. That's why I asked if my criticism was practical. It all seems so easy sitting in front of the tv set!
Losing ones own kickouts appears to be the biggest handicap in the new game. By now I would have hoped teams would figure this out. Perhaps some problems don't have easy solutions...or no solutions at all.
From a GAA perspective, I do wonder if they want kickouts to have, at times, a Keystone Kops look to them. I've written before that I believe this makes everyone look bad. Cheap goals off botched kickouts seem like being in a kissing booth with the ugliest girl in town.
Yeah I dont like the rehearsed aspect to it and the goal punishment is regular now even for keepers with near perfect record rest of game.
Quote from: EoinW on July 03, 2026, 11:46:23 AMQuote from: thewobbler on July 02, 2026, 04:29:08 PMQuote from: EoinW on July 02, 2026, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2026, 02:28:06 PMWell at this juncture in the sport all the guys are top fitness wise. Would agree Kerrys kickout movement and understanding is like something like youd see in NFL.
Would love to know how many set plays and running patterns can be called upon and how the signalling works.
This is what puzzles me. Given how important it is to win your own kick out, and the dire consequences when you get it totally wrong, why aren't teams running set plays - like a QB passing to a WR?
Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would script the first 20-30 offensive plays before each 49er game. Can't GAA teams prepare in a similar way?
Is it impractical to huddle quickly before each kickout then send the 11 players out to run a set play like wide receivers?
Comparing GAA to NFL in terms of setting up a playbook is something of a stretch.
In NFL:
after each stoppage, all defensive players line up in roughly the same formation.
Roughly half of those players hold a horizontal line at the restart, and will never go deeper than that line.
It is perfectly within the rules for attackers to block the runs of defenders.
And even with the advantages created here in terms of set plays, teams go 4 and out more often than they score.
Thank you. American football I know. Gaelic football I don't know. That's why I asked if my criticism was practical. It all seems so easy sitting in front of the tv set!
Losing ones own kickouts appears to be the biggest handicap in the new game. By now I would have hoped teams would figure this out. Perhaps some problems don't have easy solutions...or no solutions at all.
From a GAA perspective, I do wonder if they want kickouts to have, at times, a Keystone Kops look to them. I've written before that I believe this makes everyone look bad. Cheap goals off botched kickouts seem like being in a kissing booth with the ugliest girl in town.
The big difference between NFL and GAA is the professional v amateur aspect especially as relates to training time.
I'd say NFL teams spend significantly more time training every year compared to Gaelic footballers.
I know GAA players put in serious hours but it's a whole different kettle of fish while also holding down a job. I'd say the scope for practising set plays is far more limited in the GAA compared to the NFL.
Louth v Mayo, Croke Park the Referee will be David Coldrick
Dublin v Kerry it will be Brendan Cawley
Does that mean Hurson,Gough or Lane for the final?
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2026, 12:04:03 AMLouth v Mayo, Croke Park the Referee will be David Coldrick
Dublin v Kerry it will be Brendan Cawley
Does that mean Hurson,Gough or Lane for the final?
Cawley very poor in comparison to some of the above.
Quote from: statto on July 04, 2026, 01:02:29 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2026, 12:04:03 AMLouth v Mayo, Croke Park the Referee will be David Coldrick
Dublin v Kerry it will be Brendan Cawley
Does that mean Hurson,Gough or Lane for the final?
Cawley very poor in comparison to some of the above.
Lane and Gough no better.
McNally or Faloon would be my picks.
Talk about neighbourly appointments for the 2 Leinster teams.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2026, 09:25:18 AMTalk about neighbourly appointments for the 2 Leinster teams.
We'd a fecking Tyrone man for the All Ireland. Certainly be no love lost there.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 04, 2026, 03:10:51 AMQuote from: statto on July 04, 2026, 01:02:29 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2026, 12:04:03 AMLouth v Mayo, Croke Park the Referee will be David Coldrick
Dublin v Kerry it will be Brendan Cawley
Does that mean Hurson,Gough or Lane for the final?
Cawley very poor in comparison to some of the above.
Lane and Gough no better.
McNally or Faloon would be my picks.
Faloon would be my pick too. Kilcoo will be particularly delighted if he did get it.
I think last weekend will count against McNally.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 04, 2026, 09:43:23 AMQuote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2026, 09:25:18 AMTalk about neighbourly appointments for the 2 Leinster teams.
We'd a fecking Tyrone man for the All Ireland. Certainly be no love lost there.
Nobody likes Armagh though.
Andy Moran has confirmed James Carr,Diarmuid O'Connor,Paddy Durcan and Cillian O'Connor have recovered from their injuries and will be available for selection against Louth.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2026, 04:19:54 PMAndy Moran has confirmed James Carr,Diarmuid O'Connor,Paddy Durcan and Cillian O'Connor have recovered from their injuries and will be available for selection against Louth.
No, hasn't confirmed Durcan or Diarmuid.
And Cillian has only rejoined panel, hard to see him force his way in.
I was surprised Cillian came back or was asked back this year. His pace is shot. A great servant.
Quote from: Tubberman on July 04, 2026, 06:24:36 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2026, 04:19:54 PMAndy Moran has confirmed James Carr,Diarmuid O'Connor,Paddy Durcan and Cillian O'Connor have recovered from their injuries and will be available for selection against Louth.
No, hasn't confirmed Durcan or Diarmuid.
And Cillian has only rejoined panel, hard to see him force his way in.
Andy Moran quote from the Louth semi-final press conference
QuoteDarren McHale is the only one ruled out at the moment. Paddy Durcan and Diarmuid O'Connor are back running and hope to be fit for the Louth game
Cillian O'Connor is fit for selection. Of course, like everyone else he has to get through the next few sessions, but he'll be challenging for a place like everyone else. James Carr is flying too, he's kicking down my door looking for a place in the squad.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2026, 07:01:23 PMI was surprised Cillian came back or was asked back this year. His pace is shot. A great servant.
I imagine if Cillian or Andy had have been confident in the emergence of Kobe and Beirne, it wouldn't have happened.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 04, 2026, 11:29:42 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2026, 07:01:23 PMI was surprised Cillian came back or was asked back this year. His pace is shot. A great servant.
I imagine if Cillian or Andy had have been confident in the emergence of Kobe and Beirne, it wouldn't have happened.
I suppose it was a free hit. You'd think someone of his experience is not lost in training and the dugout.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 04, 2026, 07:01:23 PMI was surprised Cillian came back or was asked back this year. His pace is shot. A great servant.
King Con hasnt performed a proper flat out sprint in last few games.
Cillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Quote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
what a well taught-out, researched,and measured comment from someone that obviously knows his football.......
Quote from: sans pessimism on July 05, 2026, 08:54:31 AMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
what a well taught-out, researched,and measured comment from someone that obviously knows his football.......
Quote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
2nd Last All-Ireland semi-final Mayo played in (6 years ago against Tipperary) Cillian O'Connor scored 4-9 (6fs)
Cillian and Andy are the best of pals and always going to rejoin the panel once Andy asked him to return.
Patrick Durcan, Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Matthew Ruane; Ryan O'Donoghue, Diarmuid O'Connor; Tommy Conroy, Aidan O'Shea,Jordan Flynn are others that played then and still around.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2026, 02:11:57 PMLast All-Ireland semi-final Mayo played in (5 years ago against Tipperary) Cillian O'Connor scored 4-9 (6fs)
Cillian and Andy are the best of pals and always going to rejoin the panel once Andy asked him to return.
Patrick Durcan, Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Matthew Ruane; Ryan O'Donoghue, Diarmuid O'Connor; Tommy Conroy, Aidan O'Shea,Jordan Flynn are others that played then and still around.
Funny enough points scored against Tipp 5 years ago are totally irrelevant. Especially after shitting the bed against Tyrone.
Was it not 6 years ago they bet Tipp?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2026, 07:28:09 PMWas it not 6 years ago they bet Tipp?
It was, mixed up the two easy done in what was forgettable covid years. December 2020 semi-final v Tipperary and August 2021 semi-final v Dublin.
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
Can see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
As a neutral watching ideally you want to see two good competitive semi-finals won by a point or two.
You could well be right with Louth folding like Meath last year.
I'm not totally convinced on Dublin either and Kerry was more vulnerable with the schedule against Tyrone than they will be for this game.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2026, 01:26:42 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
As a neutral watching ideally you want to see two good competitive semi-finals won by a point or two.
You could well be right with Louth folding like Meath last year.
I'm not totally convinced on Dublin either and Kerry was more vulnerable with the schedule against Tyrone than they will be for this game.
Don't see this Mayo team being at the level Donegal where last year going into semi final. If Cork had of brought their shooting boots Mayo would have been gone, the standard in that game was well below any of the other quarter finals imo. The method of victories in the Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan games should give Louth serious confidence.
Quote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2026, 12:04:03 AMLouth v Mayo, Croke Park the Referee will be David Coldrick
Dublin v Kerry it will be Brendan Cawley
Does that mean Hurson,Gough or Lane for the final?
Hurson or McNally will get final
Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2026, 09:25:18 AMTalk about neighbourly appointments for the 2 Leinster teams.
Cawley always generous to Kerry. Will give nothing to Dublin.
Himself and Cian O'Neill two Newbridge men.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 03:01:17 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
McCurry v Kerry?
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2026, 08:53:45 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 03:01:17 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
McCurry v Kerry?
That last free. Why didn't they work it outside for a two pointer to level the game? Yes Kerry got the goal last seconds , but even if Tyrone had won the kick out, they would have been unlikely to have had time to work an equaliser
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 09:41:04 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2026, 08:53:45 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 03:01:17 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
McCurry v Kerry?
That last free. Why didn't they work it outside for a two pointer to level the game? Yes Kerry got the goal last seconds , but even if Tyrone had won the kick out, they would have been unlikely to have had time to work an equaliser
The one from which Kerry had time to score a goal from ?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 03:01:17 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
Well obviously he didn't think it was the last kick of the game ffs.
Quote from: In hiding on July 06, 2026, 10:36:54 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 09:41:04 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2026, 08:53:45 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 03:01:17 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
McCurry v Kerry?
That last free. Why didn't they work it outside for a two pointer to level the game? Yes Kerry got the goal last seconds , but even if Tyrone had won the kick out, they would have been unlikely to have had time to work an equaliser
The one from which Kerry had time to score a goal from ?
Kerry would have fouled Tyrone had they won the kick out. Killed the remaining time
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 10:57:48 PMQuote from: In hiding on July 06, 2026, 10:36:54 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 09:41:04 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2026, 08:53:45 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2026, 03:01:17 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 06, 2026, 09:50:59 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2026, 02:05:01 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 05, 2026, 07:54:35 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 05, 2026, 02:01:57 AMCillian maybe could offer something, but it is some ask at this stage. He is super accurate so who knows
Aye against London
Or if its the last kick of the game in an AIF, with your team 2 behind, and you have a 21 yard free and you want to take the point.
Thats dark :-X
But true.
Could never understand that one tbh.
McCurry v Kerry as well.
McCurry v Kerry?
That last free. Why didn't they work it outside for a two pointer to level the game? Yes Kerry got the goal last seconds , but even if Tyrone had won the kick out, they would have been unlikely to have had time to work an equaliser
The one from which Kerry had time to score a goal from ?
Kerry would have fouled Tyrone had they won the kick out. Killed the remaining time
38 seconds were left when Clifford won the kick out. More than enough time to score the equaliser if Tyrone won the kickout. With the 50m penalty for delaying frees, fouling wouldn't really waste much time. The kickout actually looked like a straight forward catch for the Tyrone player, not sure how he let it slip through to Clifford.
Gavin Devlin the Louth Manager used to work with Mickey Harte and refuses to talk to RTE in interviews.
Quote from: seafoid on July 07, 2026, 10:25:46 PMGavin Devlin the Louth Manager used to work with Mickey Harte and refuses to talk to RTE in interviews.
Does he still not talk to RTÉ?
Quote from: statto on July 06, 2026, 01:46:42 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2026, 01:26:42 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
As a neutral watching ideally you want to see two good competitive semi-finals won by a point or two.
You could well be right with Louth folding like Meath last year.
I'm not totally convinced on Dublin either and Kerry was more vulnerable with the schedule against Tyrone than they will be for this game.
Don't see this Mayo team being at the level Donegal where last year going into semi final. If Cork had of brought their shooting boots Mayo would have been gone, the standard in that game was well below any of the other quarter finals imo. The method of victories in the Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan games should give Louth serious confidence.
Mayo are nowhere near the level of what Donegal were last year and this Louth side are a good team, definitely stronger than Meath were last year. It'll be a close one this week.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 08, 2026, 09:40:05 AMQuote from: statto on July 06, 2026, 01:46:42 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2026, 01:26:42 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
As a neutral watching ideally you want to see two good competitive semi-finals won by a point or two.
You could well be right with Louth folding like Meath last year.
I'm not totally convinced on Dublin either and Kerry was more vulnerable with the schedule against Tyrone than they will be for this game.
Don't see this Mayo team being at the level Donegal where last year going into semi final. If Cork had of brought their shooting boots Mayo would have been gone, the standard in that game was well below any of the other quarter finals imo. The method of victories in the Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan games should give Louth serious confidence.
Mayo are nowhere near the level of what Donegal were last year and this Louth side are a good team, definitely stronger than Meath were last year. It'll be a close one this week.
Thought Meath looked good last year up to the semi final.
They had serious options for two pointers which made them a very dangerous animal. Sean Rafferty was also playing at a very high level in defence which didn't seem to get too this year.
Quote from: marty34 on July 07, 2026, 10:36:46 PMQuote from: seafoid on July 07, 2026, 10:25:46 PMGavin Devlin the Louth Manager used to work with Mickey Harte and refuses to talk to RTE in interviews.
Does he still not talk to RTÉ?
Mickey Harte doesn't
Devlin has not granted RTE any interview requests.
Luckily other options are available
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 08, 2026, 12:35:45 PMDevlin has not granted RTE any interview requests.
Luckily other options are available
It has to be breaking his heart because he loves the sound of his own voice.
Louth's Conor Grimes
"The majority of my career was spent in Divisions 3 and 4 so I absolutely appreciate every day training with this panel in great facilities at Darver and operating at the level we are operating at,"
There were games with 50 people watching us. I was looking back at some footage and you could hear a dog barking in one of the games so small was the crowd.
"And now we are selling out Croke Park so it is phenomenal where we have come from in a short space of time."
Mickey Harte came in, he was so high profile and still is - a legend in the GAA. For him to come down and take a chance on us when no one else would have done that said a huge amount to us.
"We owe a lot to him.
"I still remember the day the news broke and it was massive for us because everyone wanted to be part of the set up then.
"For years we didn't always have our best players on pitch. We have two league of Ireland soccer clubs in this county and we didn't always get the best players.
"But we had no problem with that when Mickey and Gavin came.
Ger Brennan brought us to that elusive Leinster title and we were on a real roll. Gavin had also worked with our underage set-up and from there he has ensured that the enthusiasm keeps rolling for us.
Kerry will likely blow Dublin away and saunter to Sam, but they need to do it in first half. Rested and refreshed with all the ducks lining up.
Con will be marshalled by speedfreak Foley.
I expect Joe O'Connor MOTM display, game set up perfectly for him.
Kerry only won 1 of the last 7 against them.
All logic says the Dubs can't go to the well again and that they don't have enough to do it, but for some reason I am not so sure.
Scully is having an awesome season. O'Coffaigh-Byrne is after coming into his own and they you have Kilkenny and CON too.
The only thing would be that if Kilkenny gets tied into doing too much donkey work then that spells trouble.
Louth are very streetwise and seem to be coming on stronger as the season goes. Lennon is a class act that would add to any team and he is flying.
They all seem to know what they have to do and could frustrate Mayo. Hard one to call, but I do fancy Louth.
I do expect my musings on Dublin v Kerry to turn out to be BS by Monday!
Kerry the 1st of the semi-finalists to publish a team.
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Dublin followed by naming their team.
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Saturday's teams
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2026, 10:20:29 PMKerry only won 1 of the last 7 against them.
And?
Kerry are tipping along and havent caught fire anything like last year.
Plenty of motivation given this is the final and the 2023 failure.
Not the final. Some attitude righting off other teams, is that not what u Tyrone posters were complaining about the other week.
I didnt give tyrone much of a hope but the 3weeks in a row was the only glimmer and they almost capitalised.
We will see on Sunday. Fancy Louth to beat Mayo, who are far from a finished article.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 10, 2026, 09:58:49 AMI didnt give tyrone much of a hope but the 3weeks in a row was the only glimmer and they almost capitalised.
We will see on Sunday. Fancy Louth to beat Mayo, who are far from a finished article.
Yeah if Louth can turn up and perform I think they're a better team than Mayo, massive occasion for both counties though which will be a factor.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2026, 10:20:29 PMKerry only won 1 of the last 7 against them.
Majority of that Dublin team are either retired or past their prime. Scully, Con and Kilkenny still driving the team but are beyond their best now.
Kerry players from 2014-18 minor winning teams coming into their prime and will be dominate for coming years.
Will be Kerry v Mayo.
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One change foe Louth and Mayo
Ciarán Keenan starts for Louth instead of Mathews, Towey replaces Conor Loftus for Mayo
Full house?
Best of luck may the best team win. Mayo are semi specialists, Louth have serious resilience.
V lax Louth. Nervy turnovers. ROD goal first Mayo score!
3-1
Mayo playing against breeze so pressure on Louth to win this half
Unfortunate goal to concede, poorly turned over and then a shot which the keeper should save tbh
After 15 minutes Mayo 1-2 Louth 0-5.
Hothead Jordan Flynn be targeted now. On yellow card. V stupid
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 11, 2026, 06:17:10 PMHothead Jordan Flynn be targeted now. On yellow card. V stupid
Silly but Mulroy being Mulroy milked it.
Enjoyable game so far.
If Flynn was high then so was Mulroy there
That is gorgeous from R O'D
Lots of talk about Kobe and Berine though It's almost like Louth forgot about marking Mayos best forward Ryan O'Donoghue.
rod tail up. Super finish on goal. Louth Lennon looks like he twisted knee being subbed. Big loss
Louth struggling big time with Mayos 3 marquee forwards as expected.
Mayo should win this by 5 or 6 with wind in 2nd half.
Louth can't handle Mayo's full forward line. They need to dominate midfield and then be much more efficient up front, because Mayo look alot better in attack with the chances they get
Lennon big loss for Louth now
After 25 minutes Mayo 1-8 Louth 0-8. Looking good for Mayo with the wind advantage to come 2nd half.
Crazy shooting by Louth. Is the wind that strong? Well outside 45 twice dropped into keepers hands.
Second mayo goal killer
2nd goal for Mayo lucky how the ball broke for them. 2-9 to 0-11.
Some full forward line Mayo have. ROD has to be an All Star imo
Oh that's unfortunate for Louth, could have easily been a point but a block turns it even worse
Half-time Mayo 2-9 Louth 0-11
Poor miss from Mulroy on the hooter there.
Enjoyable game so far
Why he not take it on the ground.
Looking ominous for Louth, they look a bit off it. Mayo haven't had to brilliant, yet look comfortable enough in front with whatever wind advantage there is still to come. 2 middling teams i think.
Yep but depression beginning to appear over Connacht
Two lucky goals with how the ball fell to Mayo players. The few two pointers Mulroy missed he would normally score in his sleep.
Mayos match to lose now.
Louth going through motions, lucky game isn t gone. Crazy bad decision making, like nervy u16s in a final.
McDonnell incredible as usual. Bad work from Mayo if they lose but expect a huge Louth effort now. Need goals and better luck , the Mayo goals were lucky enough.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 11, 2026, 06:44:06 PMWhy he not take it on the ground.
Missed one off the ground earlier
Louth can do a Wicklow, they've done it plenty times
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2026, 06:51:08 PMLouth can do a Wicklow, they've done it plenty times
They are against the breeze though
And Tommy Conroy off the bench too lol
McArdle(?) Corner forward needs subbed.
21 Keenan. Off now..gavin is reading 😃
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 11, 2026, 06:54:17 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2026, 06:51:08 PMLouth can do a Wicklow, they've done it plenty times
They are against the breeze though
And Mayo making use of that wind advantage already with a two-pointer.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2026, 06:49:29 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 11, 2026, 06:44:06 PMWhy he not take it on the ground.
Missed one off the ground earlier
First one was wild difficult, second was simple for a man of his quality.
Carrying ball into the crowd again for easy turnovers.
Mulroy may be hurt. Game over if he goes off.
Mayo 7 up
Is Kobe away before the final?
Going the same way as Meath v Donegal last year. Donegal was only leading by 4 points at half-time in that game also
That should have been game over (twice)
Quote from: Brendan on July 11, 2026, 07:08:57 PMIs Kobe away before the final?
I couldn't see it, could you?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 07:11:56 PMQuote from: Brendan on July 11, 2026, 07:08:57 PMIs Kobe away before the final?
I couldn't see it, could you?
Had read he leaves for Oz in July if its a contractual thing he mightnt have much choice?
ROD again. If your main man is tackling like that it gives life to the rest of the team
Mayo goal..game definitely gone now.
3-14 to 0-11
20 mins left
3rd goal. Loftus
Oh man what a demoralising goal for Louth to concede.
Sums up their day tbh - ponderous in attack, getting dispossessed, and Mayo go up the other end and are way more clinical with their attack
Louth absolutely shite the togs here, constantly running into traffic, shooting horrendous and gifting Mayo the game. Big Grimes is some unit but not much football in him.
Quote from: Brendan on July 11, 2026, 07:13:10 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 07:11:56 PMQuote from: Brendan on July 11, 2026, 07:08:57 PMIs Kobe away before the final?
I couldn't see it, could you?
Had read he leaves for Oz in July if its a contractual thing he mightnt have much choice?
The owl passport will go missing I'd say. Oz can wait.
Just a matter of what the Mayo winning margin will be now? 20 minutes to play Mayo 3-14 Louth 0-11.
Coldrick would be brave to card Kobe. Grimes wrecked needs the line.
Someone on here thought it could end up like Meath and Donegal it's certainly heading like that now
Louth have fallen totally flat. Looks like the occasion completely got to them. The signs were there in the first half and they didn't stop the rot at half time. Unforced errors, poor handling, and any little break in front of goal that Mayo can get, they're getting it.
Louth haven't scored in the second half. 13 points down.
20 minutes now without a score
I'd be getting the 3 inside men off. Louth liable to get ratty and the last thing Mayo want is injuries to those boys.
Dead rubber. Hopefully the Dubs put up a fight
Kobe plays with such freedom. Awesome footballer
2-7 to no score since the 28th minute enough said.
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 11, 2026, 07:23:59 PMKobe plays with such freedom. Awesome footballer
Joy to watch.
Well done Mayo. They have got to an All-Ireland final without beating a division 1 team, has to be a first?
I wish them well for 2 weeks time but if it's Kerry I have PTSD from those finals 20 years ago
Edit: forgot about Monaghan that first game of All Ireland Series. You'd take that pathway all the same, but they have been very good today
Kobe got fist back of head there
Get Aido on even he won't blow it from here
Fair play to Mayo but they'll get a rude awakening in the final when they play a decent team. Has a team ever had such a handy run to a final?
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 11, 2026, 07:26:24 PMWell done Mayo. They have got to an All-Ireland final without beating a division 1 team, has to be a first?
I wish them well for 2 weeks time but if it's Kerry I have PTSD from those finals 20 years ago
Is the criteria 2027 Division 1 teams? They beat Monaghan who were Division 1 this year
Granted that is as favourable a quarter/semi route as you'll get at this stage
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
I called this result few days ago and yous laughed at me.
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 11, 2026, 07:23:59 PMKobe plays with such freedom. Awesome footballer
Kobe will be a huge loss, not just to Mayo, but to the game.
I hope his stay in Australia isn't a long one. He has the potential to be a superstar
Great fballer McDonald but he not been marked great when he comes out the field.
Can Mayo people cope with another final?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 11, 2026, 07:28:45 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
I called this result few days ago and yous laughed at me.
Yep I did in fairness. Great shout, Louth just never showed up
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 11, 2026, 07:28:45 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
I called this result few days ago and yous laughed at me.
Yep I did in fairness. Great shout, Louth just never showed up
Basically a training game this half. Good for Mayo like but whoever comes out of tomorrow will be way, way more battle hardened.
And if it's Kerry as most assume, then by Jesus that is some step up in challenge compared to what they've faced to date
Quote from: Schkite on July 11, 2026, 07:28:08 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on July 11, 2026, 07:26:24 PMWell done Mayo. They have got to an All-Ireland final without beating a division 1 team, has to be a first?
I wish them well for 2 weeks time but if it's Kerry I have PTSD from those finals 20 years ago
Is the criteria 2027 Division 1 teams? They beat Monaghan who were Division 1 this year
Granted that is as favourable a quarter/semi route as you'll get at this stage
Only remembered that seconds after posting that it was that long ago. Hopefully these younger players will be able to perform in 2 weeks given they won't have the baggage of the old guard, I definitely would want them to win it now
Quote from: TyroneTam on July 11, 2026, 07:27:59 PMFair play to Mayo but they'll get a rude awakening in the final when they play a decent team. Has a team ever had such a handy run to a final?
Dublin 2020? Other than that struggling to remember too many since pre qualifier days.
Andy Moran on Kobe before the League
"He has his Leaving Cert coming up and you want to let him enjoy himself without putting too much of an emphasis on the whole structure because the talent is there, no doubt about it, he's a phenomenal talent.
"I think you just have to try and let him enjoy it as much as he can and whatever benefit then comes for Mayo all the better."
Hopefully Mayo put up an even bigger performance come the final
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 07:27:50 PMGet Aido on even he won't blow it from here
I thought that said Aldo
Can see Moran and Aidan O Shea arguing with the fourth official because he won't let him on. Then O Shea calling him a dickhead ;D
Anyway, back to reality......
Very embarrassing from Louth
The stars are very unlikely to align like this again for Mayo in the final. I hope they make a game of it and don't have another choke. They did well against a very lacklustre opponent today but unless the fates stay with them and absolutely everything goes their way in the final, I can't see them doing it. They will be roundly written off though, and that'll help them.
16 points up and Louth are lucky it's not a hell of alot worse tbh. Biggest case of a team laying an egg on the big stage, as I've seen in a long time.
I expected Mayo to win but I didn't think Louth would falter this badly given the scalps they've taken this year and the confidence they'd built up. Can't fathom how they just didn't show up at all for the 2nd half
If its Kerry i dont see Mayo breaking 50 50 at midfield. Am sure either Kerry or Dublin would put a man marker on McDonald
Had same thought. OShea should get a run now as its unlikely he will be relied upon in final under the cosh
Ha O'Donoghue is some boy
Christ 17 points
ROD ruining an appropriate 30-15 scoreline on Wimbledon finals weekend . Spoilsport ::)
Result Louth 0-15 Mayo 3-23. In truth Mayo leading by 4 at half time with the wind advantage to come it was just matter of how much Mayo would win.
A disappointing non competitive semi-final. Hopefully a closer game tomorrow.
Mayo are a team lads.
Yall are obsessed with Kerry and haven't seen this one coming.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 11, 2026, 07:28:53 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on July 11, 2026, 07:23:59 PMKobe plays with such freedom. Awesome footballer
Kobe will be a huge loss, not just to Mayo, but to the game.
I hope his stay in Australia isn't a long one. He has the potential to be a superstar
If he spends 6 years at St Kilda he'll be 24. He could return to Mayo...
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 11, 2026, 07:35:10 PMIf its Kerry i dont see Mayo breaking 50 50 at midfield. Am sure either Kerry or Dublin would put a man marker on McDonald
Would you not man mark the best finisher?
Reminds me of Donegal v Meath.
And similar to Donegal the non-contest will be no help to Mayo in the final.
The PA man didn't hang about getting the Saw Doctors on
Didn't see that coming. Probably underestimated Mayo
I had felt sore that Monaghan couldn't beat Louth, now I think they might well have saved us from receiving an absolute tanking from that Mayo team.
Think Kerry would beat Mayo well, Dublin Mayo is 50/50, Kerry favourites tomorrow but Dublin with a very good chance if that makes sense.
Also, pay no heed to what I say as I thought Louth would win that today!
Quote from: Main Street on July 11, 2026, 07:47:34 PMI had felt sore that Monaghan couldn't beat Louth, now I think they might well have saved us from receiving an absolute tanking from that Mayo team.
Monaghan would have turned up more so today I think.
Tyrone beat them instead of losing and getting a handy run to AI final 😁
It would be stuff of mythology if Kobe won Sam.
The challenge to get there will be immense
Impressive from Mayo,but Louth shit the bed big time, wouldn't it be great to see them winning Sam.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 11, 2026, 07:45:05 PMThe PA man didn't hang about getting the Saw Doctors on
It was on before the game I think as well 🤣
The full forward line scored 2-17 per RTE
Quote from: statto on July 06, 2026, 01:46:42 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2026, 01:26:42 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
As a neutral watching ideally you want to see two good competitive semi-finals won by a point or two.
You could well be right with Louth folding like Meath last year.
I'm not totally convinced on Dublin either and Kerry was more vulnerable with the schedule against Tyrone than they will be for this game.
Don't see this Mayo team being at the level Donegal where last year going into semi final. If Cork had of brought their shooting boots Mayo would have been gone, the standard in that game was well below any of the other quarter finals imo. The method of victories in the Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan games should give Louth serious confidence.
Well you have now seen it. Uncanny resemblance to Meaths performance against Donegal last year and Meath had victories over Dublin,Galway, Kerry coming into that game and talked up by certain pundits as Louth was before today.
Mayo for Sam Maguire and England for the World Cup in the same year?
Mayo are big underdogs v Kerry in the final if it is to be them.
But as I said few weeks back they've always a chance in any game with the forwards they have.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 11, 2026, 07:57:39 PMQuote from: statto on July 06, 2026, 01:46:42 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2026, 01:26:42 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 06, 2026, 12:17:10 PMCan see a repeat of the Donegal v Meath Semi this weekend.
Louth will be coming into this game full of hope but I can't see them being able to cope with Mayo's forwards.
Mayo by 10-12.
As a neutral watching ideally you want to see two good competitive semi-finals won by a point or two.
You could well be right with Louth folding like Meath last year.
I'm not totally convinced on Dublin either and Kerry was more vulnerable with the schedule against Tyrone than they will be for this game.
Don't see this Mayo team being at the level Donegal where last year going into semi final. If Cork had of brought their shooting boots Mayo would have been gone, the standard in that game was well below any of the other quarter finals imo. The method of victories in the Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan games should give Louth serious confidence.
Well you have now seen it. Uncanny resemblance to Meaths performance against Donegal last year and Meath had victories over Dublin,Galway, Kerry coming into that game and talked up by certain pundits as Louth was before today.
Mayo for Sam Maguire and England for the World Cup in the same year?
Nope, Argentina and Kerry, like last time.
Or even France Dublin like 2018. Either way , I'll take it.
Quote from: Main Street on July 11, 2026, 07:47:34 PMI had felt sore that Monaghan couldn't beat Louth, now I think they might well have saved us from receiving an absolute tanking from that Mayo team.
Monaghan couldn't play Mayo in the semis, would have been one of the 2 teams tomorrow
Quote from: Main Street on July 11, 2026, 07:47:34 PMI had felt sore that Monaghan couldn't beat Louth, now I think they might well have saved us from receiving an absolute tanking from that Mayo team.
You couldn't play Mayo again (repeat pairing) Kerry or Dublin instead had Monaghan won.
Feel sorry for poor Louth.
Mayowestros could well win 🏆.
😭🥶
You can only win if you're in the final and at the minute Mayo have a good chance if they replicate that intensity and accuracy
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2026, 08:59:03 PMYou can only win if you're in the final and at the minute Mayo have a good chance if they replicate that intensity and accuracy
Kerry/Dublin will be favourites but Mayo have a punchers chance. Largely untested vs Cork and Louth obviously so hard to know where they are at.
Mayo have much more than a puncher's chance.
An extremely well balanced side.
Moran has left 5 of the greatest players in their county's history living on crumbs since Roscommon.
Will he now have the cojones to move out two wonderfully natural wing backs to match up Ruane and DOC against Kerry's massive wing forwards? If he does that, Mayo will win.
Even if he doesn't they'll be there to the end.
If Kerry beat Dublin there could be a repeat of some of those finals... Would love to see mayo win it mind.
Louth looked like they had stage fright.
Mayo look like a team growing into the championship. Lots of scope for improvement in them too. Big ask in final but they have more than a punchers chance I hope.
If they miss out in final, it's likely the last time they'll see McDonald in a Mayo jersey for the next 10 years at least. So there's that too.
Moran as a player was a sharp boy. Maybe transitioning that into management.
There'll be some hype and pressure on Kobe for the next 2 weeks.
It'll be the main news story for every newspaper and media outlet - Kobe's last game before going to Australia.
Could be a repeat of R9 before the 98 World Cup Final.
I'm just not seeing it with Mayo. No bad side but I don't think they're on Kerrys level. Some serious quality up front and Conroy off the bench is electric but Clifford will get about 2-12 against their defence, midfield doesn't stack up to Kerry either. (Assuming they win tomorrow which is far from a certainty)
Will suit Mayo to be underdogs and I'd obviously love them to prove me wrong and win the whole thing. If Dublin win tomorrow though all bets are off and the final could be a classic.
69th minute Mayo V Kerry in the AI final.
Kerry up by 1 point. D Clifford somehow wins a kickout with a freakish jump but as hes about to pass its robbed by an outstretched pinky belonging to 68th min sub Aidy O'Shea, who feeds it to a full speed Paddy Durcan[62nd min sub]. Paddy gets emptied by Joe O'Connor who is bound to get a second yellow now...
Ref plays advantage, ROD soccer style chips it to Kobe who has found space on the wing well outside the arc who catches it sweetly...
Crystal ball has no more sadly.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 11, 2026, 09:33:09 PM69th minute Mayo V Kerry in the AI final.
Kerry up by 1 point. D Clifford somehow wins a kickout with a freakish jump but as hes about to pass its robbed by an outstretched pinky belonging to 68th min sub Aidy O'Shea, who feeds it to a full speed Paddy Durcan[62nd min sub]. Paddy gets emptied by Joe O'Connor who is bound to get a second yellow now...
Ref plays advantage, ROD soccer style chips it to Kobe who has found space on the wing well outside the arc who catches it sweetly...
Crystal ball has no more sadly.
Clifford's free then for tackling a man who took a mark :D
Would read very little into today's performance as good as it was. Mayo not operating on Kerry's level. If Dublin beat Kerry then it's up for grabs.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 09:27:58 PMI'm just not seeing it with Mayo. No bad side but I don't think they're on Kerrys level. Some serious quality up front and Conroy off the bench is electric but Clifford will get about 2-12 against their defence, midfield doesn't stack up to Kerry either. (Assuming they win tomorrow which is far from a certainty)
Will suit Mayo to be underdogs and I'd obviously love them to prove me wrong and win the whole thing. If Dublin win tomorrow though all bets are off and the final could be a classic.
I just don't see how anyone can underestimate Mayo's defence. Donnacha McHugh has become the man marking central player you can build a defence around - except with Coyne, Callinan, Hession, McBrien, Mayo already had that defence in place and were waiting for him, rather than the other way around.
This is an unbelievably well balanced Mayo team, especially when Kobe / RoD switch around at 11 after Conroy comes on.
The big names going away have allowed solid unknowns to develop away from hype with no expectation plus you still have a core with experience esp bench.
Tommy Conroy looks like he needs to find form but v dangerous, he seems to have developed serious strength.
Loftus has looked super this year as well in periods. Matthew Ruane also useful guy to bring in. Andy is obsessive and ruthless, no better man.
See what tomorrow brings.
Lads Kerry are really over-hyped this year.
They will be beaten by Dublin or Mayo.
Quote from: blanketattack on July 11, 2026, 09:23:28 PMThere'll be some hype and pressure on Kobe for the next 2 weeks.
It'll be the main news story for every newspaper and media outlet - Kobe's last game before going to Australia.
Could be a repeat of R9 before the 98 World Cup Final.
No doubt lots of hype but father like son it will be nothing to him.
More importantly for me is how Kerry or Dublin mark Ryan O'Donoghue will have a telling factor for the final. He's the main Mayo player to keep tabs on, somewhat underrated still when he's the main scorer, provider and one of the hardest working players in the country.
Felt sorry for Louth never turned up and looked a beaten docket devoid of any confidence once Mulroy kicked that two pointer free wide before half time.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 11, 2026, 09:39:26 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 09:27:58 PMI'm just not seeing it with Mayo. No bad side but I don't think they're on Kerrys level. Some serious quality up front and Conroy off the bench is electric but Clifford will get about 2-12 against their defence, midfield doesn't stack up to Kerry either. (Assuming they win tomorrow which is far from a certainty)
Will suit Mayo to be underdogs and I'd obviously love them to prove me wrong and win the whole thing. If Dublin win tomorrow though all bets are off and the final could be a classic.
I just don't see how anyone can underestimate Mayo's defence. Donnacha McHugh has become the man marking central player you can build a defence around - except with Coyne, Callinan, Hession, McBrien, Mayo already had that defence in place and were waiting for him, rather than the other way around.
This is an unbelievably well balanced Mayo team, especially when Kobe / RoD switch around at 11 after Conroy comes on.
And should Mayo find themselves in a winning position in this final go on and win the bloody thing and leave the silly excuses from the past behind.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2026, 09:53:22 PMLads Kerry are really over-hyped this year.
They will be beaten by Dublin or Mayo.
Good to see you getting carried away at last Bunk ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2026, 10:09:55 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2026, 09:53:22 PMLads Kerry are really over-hyped this year.
They will be beaten by Dublin or Mayo.
Good to see you getting carried away at last Bunk ;D
That'd never happen to a Rossie...
One Roscommon man getting excited anyway ;D
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0712/1582941-outraged-moran-raging-against-mayo-fan-disrespect/
Quote from: Armamike on July 11, 2026, 09:38:30 PMWould read very little into today's performance as good as it was. Mayo not operating on Kerry's level. If Dublin beat Kerry then it's up for grabs.
Yeah today's performance has to be hugely asterisked against it given how bad Louth's overall performance were. Was a real wheels came off the cart level performance from them.
The performance that would have me concerned was the Cork game. Cork were rancid yet Mayo only beat them by 5 points and it was very late in the game before Mayo looked like they had the win secured. I just can't see the Mayo full forward line getting the same level of scores against either Dublin or Kerry.
I heard on RTÉ that they had a lot of walking wounded.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2026, 09:53:22 PMLads Kerry are really over-hyped this year.
They will be beaten by Dublin or Mayo.
They are not over hyped, they are underperforming to their potential.
Tyrone game will have helped spin up their flywheel. The big question mark is Seanie O Sheas fitness and readiness to hit his highest level. It was telling Jack had White on from start of that game. Both key leaders.
Really in bonus territory for Dublin today. Never expected a semi final. Would be great to see a solid performance that causes Kerry problems. But I still think Kerry will make light work here.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 11:58:35 AMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2026, 09:53:22 PMLads Kerry are really over-hyped this year.
They will be beaten by Dublin or Mayo.
They are not over hyped, they are underperforming to their potential.
Tyrone game will have helped spin up their flywheel. The big question mark is Seanie O Sheas fitness and readiness to hit his highest level. It was telling Jack had White on from start of that game. Both key leaders.
Who drops out for Sean O'Shea? Paul Geaney? Need the 4 piano pushers to set up the 4 piano players.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 11, 2026, 09:58:24 PMQuote from: thewobbler on July 11, 2026, 09:39:26 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 09:27:58 PMI'm just not seeing it with Mayo. No bad side but I don't think they're on Kerrys level. Some serious quality up front and Conroy off the bench is electric but Clifford will get about 2-12 against their defence, midfield doesn't stack up to Kerry either. (Assuming they win tomorrow which is far from a certainty)
Will suit Mayo to be underdogs and I'd obviously love them to prove me wrong and win the whole thing. If Dublin win tomorrow though all bets are off and the final could be a classic.
I just don't see how anyone can underestimate Mayo's defence. Donnacha McHugh has become the man marking central player you can build a defence around - except with Coyne, Callinan, Hession, McBrien, Mayo already had that defence in place and were waiting for him, rather than the other way around.
This is an unbelievably well balanced Mayo team, especially when Kobe / RoD switch around at 11 after Conroy comes on.
And should Mayo find themselves in a winning position in this final go on and win the bloody thing and leave the silly excuses from the past behind.
It is interesting that Mayo declared themselves in transition, dampened expectations and look like they might actually do it? A masterclass in psychology or just a really poor quality of championship?
All the cliches are true.
Its there for everyone
On the day anyone can beat anyone
Just another game
The trick is relaxing guys and Morans very calm.
Great honest speak from Moran, ppl will read into but we all know Mayo will be huge underdogs.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41878043.html
Aidan O'Shea be delighted, maybe a centrefold this time?
Quote from: tiempo on July 12, 2026, 01:55:27 PMAidan O'Shea be delighted, maybe a centrefold this time?
What age are you?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 12, 2026, 12:40:17 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 11, 2026, 09:58:24 PMQuote from: thewobbler on July 11, 2026, 09:39:26 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 11, 2026, 09:27:58 PMI'm just not seeing it with Mayo. No bad side but I don't think they're on Kerrys level. Some serious quality up front and Conroy off the bench is electric but Clifford will get about 2-12 against their defence, midfield doesn't stack up to Kerry either. (Assuming they win tomorrow which is far from a certainty)
Will suit Mayo to be underdogs and I'd obviously love them to prove me wrong and win the whole thing. If Dublin win tomorrow though all bets are off and the final could be a classic.
I just don't see how anyone can underestimate Mayo's defence. Donnacha McHugh has become the man marking central player you can build a defence around - except with Coyne, Callinan, Hession, McBrien, Mayo already had that defence in place and were waiting for him, rather than the other way around.
This is an unbelievably well balanced Mayo team, especially when Kobe / RoD switch around at 11 after Conroy comes on.
And should Mayo find themselves in a winning position in this final go on and win the bloody thing and leave the silly excuses from the past behind.
It is interesting that Mayo declared themselves in transition, dampened expectations and look like they might actually do it? A masterclass in psychology or just a really poor quality of championship?
Plenty of managers in their 1st year and in transition have led their county to All-Ireland title only to fall way badly the following year, Tyrone in 2021 the most recent example.
Not sure about really poor quality however far from vintage quality stuff. The so called best and defending champions Kerry have shipped heavy losses to Donegal and only fell over the line with dubious calls against Tyrone.
The opportunity is there for Mayo to take it, 11 previous finals and too many excuses the ghosts of the past needs to be banished for good.
Kerty hold them other men bck to get a push of the bench from the 45min mark on.
Quote from: Schkite on July 11, 2026, 08:03:27 PMQuote from: Main Street on July 11, 2026, 07:47:34 PMI had felt sore that Monaghan couldn't beat Louth, now I think they might well have saved us from receiving an absolute tanking from that Mayo team.
Monaghan couldn't play Mayo in the semis, would have been one of the 2 teams tomorrow
When speaking hypothetically, one can be flexible with creating actualities.
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on July 12, 2026, 12:05:56 PMReally in bonus territory for Dublin today. Never expected a semi final. Would be great to see a solid performance that causes Kerry problems. But I still think Kerry will make light work here.
If your mindset is bonus territory then a trimming is likely as what happened to Louth yesterday and Meath last year.
I doubt Ger Brennan and his team that are filled with inter county or club All-Ireland winners has that mindset.
Kerry Captain Paul Geaney is out replaced by Killian Spillane in the 26
One change for each team to the published teams
For Dublin Seán MacMahon out, Alex Gavin in
For Kerry, Paul Geaney out, Seán O'Shea in
Quote from: tiempo on July 12, 2026, 01:55:27 PMAidan O'Shea be delighted, maybe a centrefold this time?
Ya see I bet Andy would have addressed all that BS.
Hes been ruthless with the "legends" aka the nearly men.
And rightly so.
Dublin by 2 AET
2-25 to 1-26
Ah Christ, Ger Canning
BBC it is
Dubs playing with wind...they need to start flying and get a sizeable lead
Have went for the draw at 8/1, Kerry could blow them away but who knows after yesterday's games.. one was to be too tight to call the other was over at halftime
Oh ffs Brendan...
Ridiculous call
Penalty for me. Think the ref got it right
Byrne is a clumsy hallion
Brendan Cawley didn't wait long to give Kerry a helping hand.
Stone wall penalty
Awful call, awful penalty, bit of luck with the rebound
Should just have clattered clifford there ...
Super hit, bigger man always punished
Unfortunate rebound.
Should have been a free out for overcarrying
Quote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 04:05:52 PMStone wall penalty
Yup and fair payback for a soft enough 2 ptr
No attempt to go shoulder to shoulder. He was straight in his chest
Was the correct call.. in fairness the ref waited a few seconds to just confer on point of foul
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 04:06:06 PMShould just have clattered clifford there ...
Be well worth a black card if you could nail him right lol
Breen should have had free out there..dub put foot in as he was picking up. Con 2ptr
Good competitive game so far hopefully it stays that way. Dublin 0-5 Kerry 1-3.
Thank God he missed that. All the advantage goes to the attackers in the first place then you get to have 2 free shots for catching a ball
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2026, 04:16:12 PMThank God he missed that. All the advantage goes to the attackers in the first place then you get to have 2 free shots for catching a ball
Ridiculous rule
Canning is awful. Sean O'Sheas forward mark is a free in to Dublin apparently.
Bad from scully, basquel brilliant can see him nabbing a goal
Dubs booing clifford embarassing
Kerry 11/11 on kickouts!
Need to pick up P Clifford a bit more
Just about to post Clifford doing very little.
Dublin wouldnt come out by the semi circle. If Kerry start scoring from the other side of the pitch they start to open Dublin up. Breeze is strong for Dublin here.
Dubs not being clinical enough, they'd wanna be a few ahead at half time as the hill 16 end doesnt look like the 2 pointers are on. Have Kerry even went for one?
O'Shea and White who been injured a long time are well of championship pace.
I think Kerry will be happy to go in at halftime a point or so in it. Breeze is strong. Dublin need to try a few two pointers quickly.
Half time Dublin 0-11 Kerry 1-8.
Good half
How come after all these years, they still got both teams going in the same changing room entrance
Picked up pace towards the end up and is well set for a second half.
Good enough half, bit too much keep ball but in fairness superman couldn't play gung ho football in that heat.
Dubs didnt get enough in the bank youd feel but they look plenty dangerous.
David and Geaney have not done a lot due to how they setup against wind & maybe conserving energy.
Kerrys midfield engine doing their thing as usual, Murphy had a small let off as did Comerford
A wee bit over complicated on both sides, so whilst it is tense, it is far from exciting.
It wasn't a penalty for me. One of those where the attacker is borderline charging, so it shouldn't be a surprise if he is sent backwards when hitting a wall.
Not sure if the wind is doing same today but if it is, Dublin are goosed, for it was worth 10 points yesterday.
Agree with McMahon and McConville. Where the feck was O'Caoifgh Byrne meant to go.
But he not in front of him as they making out, he come in from the side,
Quote from: thewobbler on July 12, 2026, 04:44:38 PMA wee bit over complicated on both sides, so whilst it is tense, it is far from exciting.
It wasn't a penalty for me. One of those where the attacker is borderline charging, so it shouldn't be a surprise if he is sent backwards when hitting a wall.
Not sure if the wind is doing same today but if it is, Dublin are goosed, for it was worth 10 points yesterday.
Yes Dublin in trouble if a similar wind. 17 shots to 12 they should be leading at half time.
Ballsy to let Paudie roam. V possible Dubs change tact for second half, need to challenge Kerry kickouts.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 04:46:08 PMAgree with McMahon and McConville. Where the feck was O'Caoifgh Byrne meant to go.
That up to him to figure but somewhere other than straight into the chest.
Hate to be a party pooper but I'd say it's over. With the wind, Kerry should win going away, like Mayo did yesterday. Good effort from Dublin but they needed a significant lead to have a chance. now they have to hope Kerry have a stinker of a second half...not likely.
Quote from: EoinW on July 12, 2026, 04:53:54 PMHate to be a party pooper but I'd say it's over. With the wind, Kerry should win going away, like Mayo did yesterday. Good effort from Dublin but they needed a significant lead to have a chance. now they have to hope Kerry have a stinker of a second half...not likely.
McConville reckons wind has changed? He mightn't be fully sharp today though.
Dublin three points in front doing better against the wind on their shooting so far.
Lucky let for Kerry, could have been a Dublin goal.
I understand 1 extra midfielder in the half forward but 2 takes away scoring power, D O'Connor should be midfield.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 04:56:36 PMQuote from: EoinW on July 12, 2026, 04:53:54 PMHate to be a party pooper but I'd say it's over. With the wind, Kerry should win going away, like Mayo did yesterday. Good effort from Dublin but they needed a significant lead to have a chance. now they have to hope Kerry have a stinker of a second half...not likely.
McConville reckons wind has changed? He mightn't be fully sharp today though.
Wind or no wind, Dublin need to dominate possession 2nd half. Have it for at least 20 minutes. Deny Kerry the ball and see if frustration sets in. The packed defence won't work. Got to be more aggressive and risk being ripped apart.
Clifford needs to be taking his man on. He can't be this passive in a game like this. No-one else is doing it. He needs to step up here
Kerry forward pulled out of that, would have been straight through with a bit of courage
Wow. dubs killing kerry kickout in 2nd half, looks tactical. Interesting.
Con should have goaled.
Kerry used the 2ptr midfielder strategy. Killer goal after kerry doing nothing.
Game level.
Jammy f**kers! Thats Dylan Geaneys first shot not to go over this year
Trying to argue that not over???
Like England last night , the luck is hanging out of Kerry
Comerford lol. Get away to f**k out of that.
Kerry goal against the run of play level game.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:07:15 PMComerford lol. Get away to f**k out of that.
Clear square ball. Umpires as usual with the finger up the bum.
Two contentious goals for kerry, just have that lucky green
Should have been a square ball having seen that replay.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 05:10:06 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:07:15 PMComerford lol. Get away to f**k out of that.
Clear square ball. Umpires as usual with the finger up the bum
Comerford was claiming it didn't go over the line, having fished it out of the side netting. Maybe he can go shake a post again or something.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 05:10:06 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:07:15 PMComerford lol. Get away to f**k out of that.
Clear square ball. Umpires as usual with the finger up the bum
Comerford was claiming it didn't go over the line, having fished it out of the side netting. Maybe he can go shake a post again or something.
Was it not the square ball he was appealing?
Given how he much played on and was gesturing and gesticulating about having the ball I'd be pretty confident he was claiming it didn't go across the line.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 12, 2026, 05:12:01 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 05:10:06 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:07:15 PMComerford lol. Get away to f**k out of that.
Clear square ball. Umpires as usual with the finger up the bum
Comerford was claiming it didn't go over the line, having fished it out of the side netting. Maybe he can go shake a post again or something.
Was it not the square ball he was appealing?
Yeah. Shocking from umpires there between that and the others asking for hawkeye for the shot off the post.
If Kerry bring Clifford on they'll win this handy.
Comerford trying to deflect from the fact any keeper worth their salt would have come off their line and cleared that ball coming in.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:13:02 PMGiven how he much played on and was gesturing and gesticulating about having the ball I'd be pretty confident he was claiming it didn't go across the line.
The ball touched net inside post. He was well aware it was a goal.
So why did he try to play on then?
Of course HE was aware. He was acting the silly bollox in the hope the umpires weren't.
Kerry making use of the wind advantage now. 2-15 to 0-16
Think Kerry need other forwards to step up, O'Shea been poor, Geaney too.
Another lucky let off for Kerry. Should have been a Dublin goal.
Luck is hanging out of Kerry. How did that stay out!
Is that Geaney's first wide of the Championship?
Actually, it looks like it did cross
Thats a goal
I think that was a goal, jaysus
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 05:10:06 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:07:15 PMComerford lol. Get away to f**k out of that.
Clear square ball. Umpires as usual with the finger up the bum
Comerford was claiming it didn't go over the line, having fished it out of the side netting. Maybe he can go shake a post again or something.
Neither here nor there, like the umpires
Just give Kerry the cup already ffs.
Far too close to say it was or wasn't I think.
The cam in the top corner isn't in line with the post either!
Is it all over, like it has ti be in soccer? If so its not, what is the actual rule here,
Kerry folk should buy a lotto ticket on the way home. Unbelievable luck they are having
None of the big decisions going Dublin's way.
It's time for the GAA to also appoint umpires.
You can't see from the camera in goal angle that the ball definitively went over the line the way you could on the Kerry goal that should have been disallowed. Did it come off his head or his shoulder?
Also, at the end of they sequence, Costello should have clipped it over instead of trying to drill it through about six defenders.
Dublin panicking a bit trying to force the goals now.
MOTM be hard to choose. Mike Breen wouldn't be far off it imo
Came off Paul Murphy then Mike Breens head cleared the ball. It was probably over line, of course neither umpire was paying attention to the line so we wont know.
Dubs chasing goals now. Do they not understand "lady luck" is with Kerry?
Mon Mayo
Nothing going Dublin way? He could send off Scully there. after the goal miss. Kerry players dont step up when u hold the Cliffords within reason. S O'Shea used to be one of the best players in the country.
Are the umpires in these big games still the referees family and friends?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2026, 05:30:31 PMNothing going Dublin way? He could send off Scully there. after the goal miss. Kerry players dont step up when u hold the Cliffords within reason. S O'Shea used to one of the best players in the country.
Prominently struggling for fitness all season ffs.
And just when you need the big players to step up Clifford and Joe O'Connor do just that. What a fetch
Quote from: tyroneStatto on July 12, 2026, 05:30:40 PMAre the umpires in these big games still the referees family and friends?
Yeah. As much use as tits on a bull.
Kerry get a point after the most obvious foul on Dublin player.
5 minutes to play Dublin 0-18 Kerry 2-16
Things are bad when you're feeling sorry for the Dubs! Being rode.
Yeah a team with 9 All-Ireland past 15yrs, i aint sorry for them.
Result Dublin 0-20 Kerry 2-18. What might have been for Dublin.
Kerry probably deserved it, Dublin kicked themselves out of it. Hard to enjoy as a neutral with the shocking officiating though.
Luck just went Kerrys way and that's what's needed
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2026, 05:40:26 PMLuck just went Kerrys way and that's what's needed
Yeah in semi final. Happens too much that they get the calls for it to be a coincidence.
Paudie Clifford MOTM
They should have gave it to the officials. Kerry wouldn't have won it without them
Dubs goal chance to go 1-14 to 1-8 up was a turning point
Big opportunity the Mayo players and management will be thinking after watching that game.
Lucky Kerry all the breaks went with them. Clifford becoming a dislikeable tit with his celebratory antics.
If Mayo show up they have every chance but that's a big if.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2026, 05:41:46 PMPaudie Clifford MOTM
They should have gave it to the officials. Kerry wouldn't have won it without them
Hope Brennan goes in on them in his interview.
Dublin played rightly, missed 2 much in the first half. Kerry poor enough, getting no scorers from Half back, I def change their Midfield and bring D O'Connor in there, Lad Kennedy looks decent.Could be the end of Kilkenny.
Another reminder it truly is an amateur game!
It aint about feeling sorry for Dubs, its standards. Why not involve good up and coming refs to umpire for the quarter finals on?
Kerrys ball winning engine was interrupted and Dubs failed to capitalise. Scullys final effort summed it up.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on July 12, 2026, 05:43:13 PMLucky Kerry all the breaks went with them. Clifford becoming a dislikeable tit with his celebratory antics.
If Mayo show up they have every chance but that's a big if.
f**k that. Celebrate every score and get the crowd into it. He's just right. He was anonymous today really and still had 1-5, madness. Paudie an unlikeable wee p***k but David seems a gent.
Quote from: blasmere on July 12, 2026, 05:41:56 PMDubs goal chance to go 1-14 to 1-8 up was a turning point
Overall Dublin's big regret will be their finishing between their goal chances and the wides.
At the other end no Paul Geaney, Dylan Geaney having a quiet game on the scoreboard and Clifford being mostly well held on the scoreboard by his standards but the rest of the team stepped up with the scores.
The three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 12, 2026, 05:41:15 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2026, 05:40:26 PMLuck just went Kerrys way and that's what's needed
Yeah in semi final. Happens too much that they get the calls for it to be a coincidence.
Oh give over ffs.
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Penalty was a penalty.
Square ball was badly missed.
Ball not conclusively shown to be over the line.
Judging by this weekend, Kerry will win Sam with the winning point being deflected off a seagull, and England.... No, I can't even say it
Unbelievable the luck both had though.
Dublin unlucky, but that's football; blame their shooting, not the officials
I wouldnt be worried about Clifford, its the lads round him need pick it up.They not change the keepers but i preferred the other boy. Tom O'Sullivan still must be way off it when they not risk him as a sub. Kerry in the final playing poor enough last 3 games. Due a big game. Mayo got a good chance but luck always went against them in big games.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2026, 05:48:28 PMJudging by this weekend, Kerry will win Sam with the winning point being deflected off a seagull, and England.... No, I can't even say it
Unbelievable the luck both had though.
although Argentina have officials/luck behind them too!
Fair play Philly calling it out.
Dublin be kicking themselves.
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
I think it was a penalty and I'm not convinced it was over the line so really the only one that was wrong was the square ball
Quote from: befair on July 12, 2026, 05:49:01 PMDublin unlucky, but that's football; blame their shooting, not the officials
Officials are part of the game. Of course they can shoulder blame.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:48:21 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Penalty was a penalty.
Square ball was badly missed.
Ball not conclusively shown to be over the line.
Penalty is definitely one that could have went either way. Are you looking for goal line technology or what? It was a goal
Showing goalline clearance again, looks over but the camera on the bck stanchion and not in line. so is the rule partially over or all over?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 12, 2026, 03:15:33 PMQuote from: JollyGreenGiant on July 12, 2026, 12:05:56 PMReally in bonus territory for Dublin today. Never expected a semi final. Would be great to see a solid performance that causes Kerry problems. But I still think Kerry will make light work here.
If your mindset is bonus territory then a trimming is likely as what happened to Louth yesterday and Meath last year.
I doubt Ger Brennan and his team that are filled with inter county or club All-Ireland winners has that mindset.
Thats for me as supporter. But I have watched Dublin across this season, and my expectation after Louth was that Donegal was the end of the road. That would not have been the team's mindset, and they played accordingly. But expectations were at all all time low.
While not entirely four square with 2010, I think there has been enough development to hopefully see promotion, a Leinster Title, and another tilt at at least another AI Semi Final in 2027. McMorrow, Doran, Clancy, Guiden, POC all had good seasons. Scully really looked like a leader, and will hopefully continue on. I think the Goalkeeper position is yet to be properly finalised.
I'm pleased that we put it up to Kerry in many ways, although I felt the game wasnt in doubt with 10 mins to go.
Jesus some people here must have a few tinfoil hats lying about. As someone else said I wouldn't feel too sorry for a team or fanbase that has seen 9 All Irelands
Mayo will fancy their chances big time in the final going off that kerry display
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 12, 2026, 05:57:35 PMMayo will fancy their chances big time in the final going off that kerry display
I fear Mayo will do what Mayo usually do in AI finals
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 12, 2026, 05:50:03 PMDublin be licking themselves.
Strange reaction to All-Ireland semi-final defeat.
Umpires have awarded goals like that in past. Unfortunately they werent looking at the line.
Clearly over the line, when you account for slight camera angle. Reminder how useless hawkeye is
Peno 50/50 charging but Byrne should have tried to stand man up in that area. Think heat hurt the spectacle.
This is a disaster because The Dubs are big soccer guys and there will be clamour for VAR which would be a disaster for GAA.
If they tried to kick themselves they'd miss ::)
Kerry start year with a square ball goal, got another tiday.
Guess who was Ref in both games?
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 06:06:22 PMClearly over the line, when you account for slight camera angle. Reminder how useless hawkeye is
What a truly bizarre couple of statements.
Is there a reason one of the umpires doesn't stay at the side of the net to look at the goal line?
The failure to call the square ball is ridiculous.
Feeling sorry for the Dubs is a left field box ion Jim Gavin's FRC bingo card.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 06:09:30 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 06:06:22 PMClearly over the line, when you account for slight camera angle. Reminder how useless hawkeye is
What a truly bizarre couple of statements.
The camera is not in line, actually behind and it still looked over. Definitely a goal.
2 poor semis for the neutral, lets hope Mayo can make a game of the final
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2026, 05:55:06 PMJesus some people here must have a few tinfoil hats lying about. As someone else said I wouldn't feel too sorry for a team or fanbase that has seen 9 All Irelands
Nothing to do with their 9 AIs. Half the board has spent the last 15 years crying about teams getting rode in favour of Dublin. "Dublin Joe" etc.
Turns out there's an every bigger bogey man! The power behind the power. They've executed their strategy masterfully, allowing Dublin to rack up 8 AIs before truly unleashing Clifford's Kerry on the nation. But only in Croke Park so they don't get caught, for example down in Killarney against Donegal.
Tinfoil hat gibberish.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 12, 2026, 06:10:36 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 06:09:30 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 06:06:22 PMClearly over the line, when you account for slight camera angle. Reminder how useless hawkeye is
What a truly bizarre couple of statements.
The camera is not in line, actually behind and it still looked over. Definitely a goal.
Precisely, the camera is not in line which means you can't tell whether it was f**king over or not! There isn't daylight between the ball and the post which would allow you make such a claim.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 06:13:07 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2026, 05:55:06 PMJesus some people here must have a few tinfoil hats lying about. As someone else said I wouldn't feel too sorry for a team or fanbase that has seen 9 All Irelands
Nothing to do with their 9 AIs. Half the board has spent the last 15 years crying about teams getting rode in favour of Dublin. "Dublin Joe" etc.
Turns out there's an every bigger bogey man! The power behind the power. They've executed their strategy masterfully, allowing Dublin to rack up 8 AIs before truly unleashing Clifford's Kerry on the nation. But only in Croke Park so they don't get caught, for example down in Killarney against Donegal.
Tinfoil hat gibberish.
Ah yeah against Tyrone referee moves a mark up 50 metres, a rule no longer in force and when exact same thing happens Tyrone he doesn't move it up and an umpire gives a phantom 45. On top of numerous soft frees. I get it Gallsman you're a Kerry fan.
Kerry haven't been convincing in the last 2 games. A great chance for Mayo to end the curse.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:48:21 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Penalty was a penalty.
Square ball was badly missed.
Ball not conclusively shown to be over the line.
Ball not conclusively shown to not be over the line so which one do you go with?
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 12, 2026, 06:22:08 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:48:21 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Penalty was a penalty.
Square ball was badly missed.
Ball not conclusively shown to be over the line.
Ball not conclusively shown to not be over the line so which one do you go with?
Obviously you go with no goal.
For what it's worth, I reckon it probably was over, fractionally so, but lads getting on as if it's definitive proof of the Croke Park pro Kerry mafia need to have a word with themselves.
Dublin got all the calls after the end of normal time against Donegal, can't feel that sorry for them today
Enjoyed the game, good contest at least. Dublin should be very disappointed after that. Some great chances to really turn the screw on Kerry not taken. Some of their shooting and shot selection was very poor. You felt a goal could have ignited them but luck didn't smile. Kerry lucky with their goals too especially the second one. Were drifting at the time so timing couldn't have been better. Played some nice football but sloppy too when pressurised. If Mayo bring the work rate they have the quality also to not let Kerry have it all their own way.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2026, 06:02:57 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 12, 2026, 05:57:35 PMMayo will fancy their chances big time in the final going off that kerry display
I fear Mayo will do what Mayo usually do in AI finals
Lose?
Quote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2026, 06:26:21 PMDublin got all the calls after the end of normal time against Donegal, can't feel that sorry for them today
Got the calls against Galway as well. Swings and roundabouts.
Quote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2026, 06:32:06 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2026, 06:02:57 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 12, 2026, 05:57:35 PMMayo will fancy their chances big time in the final going off that kerry display
I fear Mayo will do what Mayo usually do in AI finals
Lose?
2006 will be prominent in everyone's mind.
If Kerry go on to win two in a row is there an argument to be made that the FRC have improved the game but the drawback is they have created a Kerry hegemony.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 06:09:30 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2026, 06:06:22 PMClearly over the line, when you account for slight camera angle. Reminder how useless hawkeye is
What a truly bizarre couple of statements.
Hawkeye costs €10k per game and is only used for pts. Money well spent.
You can infer it crossed the line on known data.
But you can tra and twist away to yer hearts content. Knock yerself out ;D
Ger Brennan
"The referees need assistance because there's so much happening"
He thinks the referee got the three big calls wrong
Kerry playing a bland style of play but do have stylish players which helps. Not playing overally well but will probably win the AI
Can't they try and get the chip in the ball like over the water? Although not sure how practical that is and I know it wouldn't be for the club scene. Still don't know how the umpire next to that post didn't see it was over.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 12, 2026, 07:03:14 PMGer Brennan
"The referees need assistance because there's so much happening"
He thinks the referee got the three big calls wrong
The ref got one badly wrong, the umpires got one badly wrong. The goal line one you could forgive since we have a slow motion replay and can't say for sure.
Much as I want to believe Kerry are favourably refereed, today was mostly a case of "the harder I work, the luckier I get".
The penalty (never a pen for me) required hard running and bravery.
The second goal came from two men in illegal positions just saying "f**k it, let's make things tough for their keeper and see what happens".
The Dublin "non" goal arrived during a half minute of incessant harrying and blocking, and included a tremendous save.
Contrast all of the above with one of Down's most experienced players yesterday, whose reaction to someone catching him and dispossessing him was to put his hands on his hips and watch the game.
Harder work makes luck.
They work hard them Kerry bastards, they really do.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 06:25:51 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 12, 2026, 06:22:08 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 05:48:21 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Penalty was a penalty.
Square ball was badly missed.
Ball not conclusively shown to be over the line.
Ball not conclusively shown to not be over the line so which one do you go with?
Obviously you go with no goal.
For what it's worth, I reckon it probably was over, fractionally so, but lads getting on as if it's definitive proof of the Croke Park pro Kerry mafia need to have a word with themselves.
It looked over but I couldn't tell for sure.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2026, 05:53:16 PMShowing goalline clearance again, looks over but the camera on the bck stanchion and not in line. so is the rule partially over or all over?
3.1
A goal is scored when the ball is played over the goal-line between the posts and under the crossbar by either team.
I read that as fully over but who knows.
I have yet to see an angle that proves it conclusively one way or another. In those circumstances I think it's hard to criticise the officials whatever decision they give.
There's a still photo buff Egan has on Facebook.
Is this season following last season? An absolute classic up til the semi finals then it completely petered out. That wasnt a great game added to yesterday's cake wake...good chance final could be a blowout as well.
Anyway, after the Tyrone v Kerry game and now this game I feel strongly that there should be a review style system in place for all games in Croke park from QF onwards. My thoughts are:
- each team gets 3 reviews, captain or management can call for them.
- basically the big screens could be used by the ref for definite calls on huge decisions.
- wouldn't take long to fire up the required incident on big screen for 2 or 3 run throughs for the ref to make his decision.
- could have reviewed Kerry's over the line goal and Dubs wrong decision very quickly.
- the Tyrone non award of 45 would have taken a review of no more than 10 seconds.
It wouldn't be VAR and only applied from QFs onwards as the technology is there and replays are usually shown after the ref makes his call anyway.
There's so much riding on the game and it's moving so fast that it's nearly impossible for refs to see everything. Plus to have mainly aul boys who are friends of the refs is pretty ridiculous in this day and age.
Qfs onwards should also have experienced refs on the posts as well.
That Dublin v Kerry game today wasn't at the standard in quality and entertainment of previous championship meetings such as 2022 semi-final,drawn final in 2019, 2016 semi-final and 2013 All-Ireland semi-final.
Nearly always talking points in Dublin v Kerry matches but was far too many today. How Cawley and his team of officials continues to get so many high profile games is a mystery.
Celebration police are out in force for what David Clifford did after scoring the games final point. Con O'Callaghan not scoring from play a big surprise and it wasn't like Kerry were great defensively matter of fact if they give up that amount of chances to Kobe McDonald,Ryan O'Donoghue and Darragh Beirne they will be more clinical.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 07:50:28 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2026, 05:53:16 PMShowing goalline clearance again, looks over but the camera on the bck stanchion and not in line. so is the rule partially over or all over?
3.1
A goal is scored when the ball is played over the goal-line between the posts and under the crossbar by either team.
I read that as fully over but who knows.
I have yet to see an angle that proves it conclusively one way or another. In those circumstances I think it's hard to criticise the officials whatever decision they give.
Pretty sure I saw/heard before that the ball has to be fully over the line for it to be a legitimate goal.
The rule on square ball is also a very tough one for the officials, especially when it's a from play situation compared to from a dead ball situation. The natural instinct when the ball is in play is for an umpire to concentrate on following the flight of the ball especially in a situation where it looks like a player is shooting for a point. It's one thing to call a square ball accurately from a video or even a still picture but it's a far harder task to do in real time especially when you're not expecting it (like in the case of a shot at the posts dropping short)
I wonder if there would be merit in the rules committee looking at trialing possible changes or alternatives to this especially in play given it seems to be a rule that is missed by officials with a fair degree of regularity. The other option is the VAR route but I really don't think there is all that much in the way of appetite for that.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2026, 08:07:47 PMThere's a still photo buff Egan has on Facebook.
Even on that you can see the full circumference has not crossed the line although the camera angle is not straight either. Still inconclusive. On the others, it was a square ball. Cawley missed a obvious square ball in our league game with Kerry too. Penalty would be a free if it happened out the field for a poorly executed shoulder. On that basis it's a penalty, but a soft one. 3 point swing, definitely not 9.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2026, 08:07:47 PMThere's a still photo buff Egan has on Facebook.
Looks fairly clear cut.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 12, 2026, 08:19:33 PMCon O'Callaghan not scoring from play a big surprise and it wasn't like Kerry were great defensively matter of fact if they give up that amount of chances to Kobe McDonald,Ryan O'Donoghue and Darragh Beirne they will be more clinical.
I'd imagine Foley is a shoe-in for the All-Star full-back position unless he has an absolute disaster of a final. He's probably got a bit of an unfair advantage in the All-Star race in that he doesn't have to play against Clifford in any championship game. Agree about the number of chances today but it would be just like Kerry to tighten up on that significantly in the final.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 07:19:36 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 12, 2026, 07:03:14 PMGer Brennan
"The referees need assistance because there's so much happening"
He thinks the referee got the three big calls wrong
The ref got one badly wrong, the umpires got one badly wrong. The goal line one you could forgive since we have a slow motion replay and can't say for sure.
You are in minority of people in this discussion who think the penalty was the wrong call. One eejit even tried to suggest O'Connor was charging as POCB ran into and clattered him straight on. That is not "badly wrong".
Quote from: thewobbler on July 12, 2026, 07:29:29 PMThe second goal came from two men in illegal positions just saying "f**k it, let's make things tough for their keeper and see what happens".
The second man was clearly not inside the square when the ball was kicked.
Even with all the goal calls going against them, the Dubs still engineered enough scoring chances to prosper but butchered way too many of them.
A few crumbs of encouragement for Mayo in the way Kerry were contained for spells of the match, but although they summoned a performance I didn't see coming against a Louth team with stage fright, I fear Mayo have once again peaked for their semifinal. Here's hoping we get a final contest worthy of the occasion. Would be some craic if every bit of bad luck they've had in prior 11 showpieces was rebalanced with a stupendously outrageous day out to finally claim Sam.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 12, 2026, 08:21:42 PMQuote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 07:50:28 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2026, 05:53:16 PMShowing goalline clearance again, looks over but the camera on the bck stanchion and not in line. so is the rule partially over or all over?
3.1
A goal is scored when the ball is played over the goal-line between the posts and under the crossbar by either team.
I read that as fully over but who knows.
I have yet to see an angle that proves it conclusively one way or another. In those circumstances I think it's hard to criticise the officials whatever decision they give.
Pretty sure I saw/heard before that the ball has to be fully over the line for it to be a legitimate goal.
The rule on square ball is also a very tough one for the officials, especially when it's a from play situation compared to from a dead ball situation. The natural instinct when the ball is in play is for an umpire to concentrate on following the flight of the ball especially in a situation where it looks like a player is shooting for a point. It's one thing to call a square ball accurately from a video or even a still picture but it's a far harder task to do in real time especially when you're not expecting it (like in the case of a shot at the posts dropping short)
I wonder if there would be merit in the rules committee looking at trialing possible changes or alternatives to this especially in play given it seems to be a rule that is missed by officials with a fair degree of regularity. The other option is the VAR route but I really don't think there is all that much in the way of appetite for that.
Yeah I have always worked on the understanding it's whole ball over whole line
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 05:33:00 PMQuote from: tyroneStatto on July 12, 2026, 05:30:40 PMAre the umpires in these big games still the referees family and friends?
Yeah. As much use as tits on a bull.
Well that nonsense needs to end. It hasn't been a good couple of weeks for officials especially umpires.
Quote from: TyroneTam on July 12, 2026, 08:16:49 PMIs this season following last season? An absolute classic up til the semi finals then it completely petered out. That wasnt a great game added to yesterday's cake wake...good chance final could be a blowout as well.
Anyway, after the Tyrone v Kerry game and now this game I feel strongly that there should be a review style system in place for all games in Croke park from QF onwards. My thoughts are:
- each team gets 3 reviews, captain or management can call for them.
- basically the big screens could be used by the ref for definite calls on huge decisions.
- wouldn't take long to fire up the required incident on big screen for 2 or 3 run throughs for the ref to make his decision.
- could have reviewed Kerry's over the line goal and Dubs wrong decision very quickly.
- the Tyrone non award of 45 would have taken a review of no more than 10 seconds.
It wouldn't be VAR and only applied from QFs onwards as the technology is there and replays are usually shown after the ref makes his call anyway.
There's so much riding on the game and it's moving so fast that it's nearly impossible for refs to see everything. Plus to have mainly aul boys who are friends of the refs is pretty ridiculous in this day and age.
Qfs onwards should also have experienced refs on the posts as well.
Don't think that would solve anything. In fact probably cause more rows. Of those three you've listed I don't think you'd get unanimous agreement on any of them other than maybe the square ball.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2026, 08:07:47 PMThere's a still photo buff Egan has on Facebook.
Shame on you for giving this buck eejit any attention whatsoever!
"Digital Creator" lolololol.
A still image proves nothing unless it conclusively shows something, which it does not.
I vividly remember the chorus on the BBC when Japan beat Germany in the WC where they wanted a fair goal ruled out for a ball that didn't go wide. The image showed grass between the ball and the line, so it must have gone wide! Then they showed the overhead image, where it was clear the curve of the ball was above the line, so it wasn't wide.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 12, 2026, 08:47:03 PMEven with all the goal calls going against them, the Dubs still engineered enough scoring chances to prosper but butchered way too many of them.
A few crumbs of encouragement for Mayo in the way Kerry were contained for spells of the match, but although they summoned a performance I didn't see coming against a Louth team with stage fright, I fear Mayo have once again peaked for their semifinal. Here's hoping we get a final contest worthy of the occasion. Would be some craic if every bit of bad luck they've had in prior 11 showpieces was rebalanced with a stupendously outrageous day out to finally claim Sam.
I'd love Ryan O'Donoghue to get away with throwing the ball into the net after taking 14 steps and Kobe to score a goal deflected off Foleys arse!
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 08:29:27 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2026, 08:07:47 PMThere's a still photo buff Egan has on Facebook.
Looks fairly clear cut.
Only to stupid c***ts who don't understand the meaning of "clear cut".
Another poster reckons you can infer the ball is over the line. Honestly like.
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
Second that big time
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
And the 3 big & wrong calls v Tyrone all went Kerry's way...show strange
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on July 12, 2026, 09:37:55 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
And the 3 big & wrong calls v Tyrone all went Kerry's way...show strange
At least one of them was by definition was the correct call
Kerry heading to Vegas for the team holiday. Keep riding the luck in the casinos there.
QuoteDon't think that would solve anything. In fact probably cause more rows. Of those three you've listed I don't think you'd get unanimous agreement on any of them other than maybe the square ball.
Think that's harsh...the Tyrone 45 was blatantly obvious when seen just once...the Kerry goal would clearly have been shown on replay...the Dublin goal was the only debatable one as no conclusive camera angle available. A goal line camera would be an easy solution.
As discussed, Kerry have got the absolute gifts from the gods against Tyrone and Dublin today.
QuoteQuoteQuoteMayo will fancy their chances big time in the final going off that kerry display
I fear Mayo will do what Mayo usually do in AI finals
Lose?
Well, 8 losses from 8 in the last couple of decades isn't exactly encouraging from a Mayo point of view.
yes, this is mostly a new Mayo team , and I really hope they do it , but i dread them losing another.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2026, 09:58:22 PMQuoteQuoteQuoteMayo will fancy their chances big time in the final going off that kerry display
I fear Mayo will do what Mayo usually do in AI finals
Lose?
Well, 8 losses from 8 in the last couple of decades isn't exactly encouraging from a Mayo point of view.
yes, this is mostly a new Mayo team , and I really hope they do it , but i dread them losing another.
Don't worry, what's the worst that I can happen? Everyone in Mayo knows what it's like to lose a final, so it should hold no fear at this stage.
When you take into account all of those relatively recent Mayo AI defeats, don't forget the replays. I count 12 failed attempts to win the final since the Meath final in 96.
Jack O'Connor is a snidey operator.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2026, 09:53:13 PMKerry heading to Vegas for the team holiday. Keep riding the luck in the casinos there.
It's not luck. Refs are groomed towards them hence the endless 50/50 decisions in their favour. Media gush over them. Red or black card offences get ignored or at best glossed over by media as'he's not that sort of player'bullshit.
Ger Brennan
https://x.com/offtheball/status/2076373962515243231
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on July 12, 2026, 10:18:30 PMQuote from: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2026, 09:53:13 PMKerry heading to Vegas for the team holiday. Keep riding the luck in the casinos there.
It's not luck. Refs are groomed towards them hence the endless 50/50 decisions in their favour. Media gush over them. Red or black card offences get ignored or at best glossed over by media as'he's not that sort of player'bullshit.
Yep.
When I tried to become a Ref I was told Rule no 1 is to favour Kerry at all times.
Better put these in for the Ulster boys🤪😜
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2026, 10:02:35 PMWhen you take into account all of those relatively recent Mayo AI defeats, don't forget the replays. I count 12 failed attempts to win the final since the Meath final in 96.
04 and 06 they hadn't really a prayer, 2012 they'd a good enough team to do better, but that was a good Donegal team they ran into.
2013, 2016,2017 ran into an unbelievable team and put them to the pin of their collars but between bad luck, bad decisions and lack of a bench coming down the straight they conspired to lose them all. 2020 they were just second best by a million miles. 2021 was a total shite the bed after finally getting over Dublin they thought all they had to do was turn up against Tyrone. Only really getting round to forgiving them now for that one lol
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 10:30:29 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2026, 10:02:35 PMWhen you take into account all of those relatively recent Mayo AI defeats, don't forget the replays. I count 12 failed attempts to win the final since the Meath final in 96.
2021 was a total shite the bed after finally getting over Dublin they thought all they had to do was turn up against Tyrone. Only really getting round to forgiving them now for that one lol
I'd always be rooting for Mayo in finals until after that day, when I realised they could be playing themselves in a decider and would somehow still contrive to lose, so weren't worth the effort. They're going to win one eventually, though, and of course most of the country will be behind them in a fortnight's time.
TSG
https://x.com/TheSundayGame/status/2076410950727393317
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 12, 2026, 10:40:41 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 10:30:29 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2026, 10:02:35 PMWhen you take into account all of those relatively recent Mayo AI defeats, don't forget the replays. I count 12 failed attempts to win the final since the Meath final in 96.
2021 was a total shite the bed after finally getting over Dublin they thought all they had to do was turn up against Tyrone. Only really getting round to forgiving them now for that one lol
I'd always be rooting for Mayo in finals until after that day, when I realised they could be playing themselves in a decider and would somehow still contrive to lose, so weren't worth the effort. They're going to win one eventually, though, and of course most of the country will be behind them in a fortnight's time.
Ah look I'll definitely be rooting for them in 2 weeks, would be some story, huge ask but they've a punchers chance and I doubt anyone would begrudge them finally getting the job done.
Impossible not to feel for the O'Sheas, Keegans, Morans etc after all those heart breaks against Dublin especially. Is Cillian O'Connor not back with the squad this year?
Quote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 08:51:12 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 12, 2026, 08:21:42 PMQuote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 07:50:28 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2026, 05:53:16 PMShowing goalline clearance again, looks over but the camera on the bck stanchion and not in line. so is the rule partially over or all over?
3.1
A goal is scored when the ball is played over the goal-line between the posts and under the crossbar by either team.
I read that as fully over but who knows.
I have yet to see an angle that proves it conclusively one way or another. In those circumstances I think it's hard to criticise the officials whatever decision they give.
Pretty sure I saw/heard before that the ball has to be fully over the line for it to be a legitimate goal.
The rule on square ball is also a very tough one for the officials, especially when it's a from play situation compared to from a dead ball situation. The natural instinct when the ball is in play is for an umpire to concentrate on following the flight of the ball especially in a situation where it looks like a player is shooting for a point. It's one thing to call a square ball accurately from a video or even a still picture but it's a far harder task to do in real time especially when you're not expecting it (like in the case of a shot at the posts dropping short)
I wonder if there would be merit in the rules committee looking at trialing possible changes or alternatives to this especially in play given it seems to be a rule that is missed by officials with a fair degree of regularity. The other option is the VAR route but I really don't think there is all that much in the way of appetite for that.
Yeah I have always worked on the understanding it's whole ball over whole line
Yes, was always "over all of the line" previously.
The goalline is 4 inches wide. If there's any overhang over even a millimetre of the line, it's not a goal, and I've seen no evidence of clear daylight between the ball and all of the line.
The square ball isn't an open and shut case either.
Was the ball actually in the square when O'Brien made contact with it? He jumps in the air, starting just inside the edge of the square and stretches his arm out. He's 6'3" so has a considerable wingspan. And like the goalline one, all of the ball has to be over all of the line to be considered 'in the square'. To me, while he's in the square, it looks like he makes contact with the ball either outside the square or above the line (thus not considered inside), which means no infringement.
Quote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2026, 02:19:27 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 12, 2026, 01:55:27 PMAidan O'Shea be delighted, maybe a centrefold this time?
What age are you?
Tonight Matthew I will be Mitch Buchannon
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Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on July 12, 2026, 09:37:55 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on July 12, 2026, 05:45:54 PMThe three big calls all went Kerrys way. Penalty, square ball and a goal not given when over the line.
And the 3 big & wrong calls v Tyrone all went Kerry's way...show strange
Calls went Dubs way vs Galway. I wouldnt go so far as alleging anything as its statistically insignificant.
Every time umpires are either to blame for not seeing it or maybe afraid to speak up. The square ball is most infuriating as its easiest one to rehearse with your fellow umpire.
Watching it frame by frame the Dubs were denied a goal, but in real time I wouldn't have the foggiest notion. Without an eagle eye umpire (doesn't exist anyway) you can't be certain it was a goal, to get that decision right one would need to use video technology or something.
I am not sold on the penalty, not arguing against the ref who was perfectly positioned and applied the law, I'd just say that type of contact in a cluttered area around the goal shouldn't be a penalty, that it was bought by a rampaging forward trying to make inroads in a cluttered box, he's bound to run into somebody. If that was team Handball it would be more likely to be adjudged as barging into an opponent, you can sorta see the Kerry player turning his shoulder toward Byrne just before the contact. But I haven't watched it frame by frame measuring the momentum of both players :o
Overall I think I would have much preferred to watch a ding dong Dublin Kerry semi final played under the old rules.
Brian Howard was immense from start to finish. Even when tired he managed to throw a dummy and get a point. Blocked Clifford hand fisted point. What a warrior.
Quote from: tiempo on July 13, 2026, 12:40:47 AMQuote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2026, 02:19:27 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 12, 2026, 01:55:27 PMAidan O'Shea be delighted, maybe a centrefold this time?
What age are you?
Tonight Matthew I will be Mitch Buchannon
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Some laughing done in Tyrone in run up to the final. Said everything about the Mayo spiceboy mindset they considered this acceptable.
Imagine we wont see a repeat
Bravo Dublin! That was a fine effort today and a very impressive three game run. Take away Kerry's two goals and they are in big trouble. No sour grapes on how controversial they were. I think we can all agree that Kerry were lucky to win today.
Yet another thing against Mayo in the Final: will Kerry get all the breaks again? Great teams make their own luck. Is that fair?
On the other hand, Kerry looked flat much of the game and were certainly outworked by Dublin. Reminded me of the Kerry team in the league final.
Now I'm wondering what if "tired" Kerry had been required to come north for their Armagh match. Have to admit that it still bothers me that the Ulster champion ends up having to play a knockout game in Killarney. So much for rewarding a provincial champ!
Wasn't it 2023 when Kerry squeaked past Derry and Jack O'Connor admitted they weren't the better team that day and were lucky to win. Then their luck ran out in the final.
Obviously Dublin won't do it but has any team ever won the AI championship the same year they were relegated in the league?
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Some laughing done in Tyrone in run up to the final. Said everything about the Mayo spiceboy mindset they considered this acceptable.
Imagine we wont see a repeat
But will Ballina credit union be advertising Sam Maguire loans?
Quote from: blanketattack on July 13, 2026, 12:13:53 AMQuote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 08:51:12 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 12, 2026, 08:21:42 PMQuote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2026, 07:50:28 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2026, 05:53:16 PMShowing goalline clearance again, looks over but the camera on the bck stanchion and not in line. so is the rule partially over or all over?
3.1
A goal is scored when the ball is played over the goal-line between the posts and under the crossbar by either team.
I read that as fully over but who knows.
I have yet to see an angle that proves it conclusively one way or another. In those circumstances I think it's hard to criticise the officials whatever decision they give.
Pretty sure I saw/heard before that the ball has to be fully over the line for it to be a legitimate goal.
The rule on square ball is also a very tough one for the officials, especially when it's a from play situation compared to from a dead ball situation. The natural instinct when the ball is in play is for an umpire to concentrate on following the flight of the ball especially in a situation where it looks like a player is shooting for a point. It's one thing to call a square ball accurately from a video or even a still picture but it's a far harder task to do in real time especially when you're not expecting it (like in the case of a shot at the posts dropping short)
I wonder if there would be merit in the rules committee looking at trialing possible changes or alternatives to this especially in play given it seems to be a rule that is missed by officials with a fair degree of regularity. The other option is the VAR route but I really don't think there is all that much in the way of appetite for that.
Yeah I have always worked on the understanding it's whole ball over whole line
Yes, was always "over all of the line" previously.
The goalline is 4 inches wide. If there's any overhang over even a millimetre of the line, it's not a goal, and I've seen no evidence of clear daylight between the ball and all of the line.
The square ball isn't an open and shut case either.
Was the ball actually in the square when O'Brien made contact with it? He jumps in the air, starting just inside the edge of the square and stretches his arm out. He's 6'3" so has a considerable wingspan. And like the goalline one, all of the ball has to be over all of the line to be considered 'in the square'. To me, while he's in the square, it looks like he makes contact with the ball either outside the square or above the line (thus not considered inside), which means no infringement.
I'm not sure that even if correct that would be no infringement. The rule is that it is square ball.
For an attacking player to enter opponents' small rectangle:
(a) (b) During Play (excluding Set Play), before the final play of the ball into the small rectangle.
So even if you are correct that O'Brien was outside the square the other Kerry player would still on that version have been in the small rectangle before the final play of the ball into the small rectangle.
It's simple. From open play, you can't already be in the square when the ball is kicked. Once it's played, you can stand wherever the hell you want and play the ball.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 08:43:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 07:19:36 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 12, 2026, 07:03:14 PMGer Brennan
"The referees need assistance because there's so much happening"
He thinks the referee got the three big calls wrong
The ref got one badly wrong, the umpires got one badly wrong. The goal line one you could forgive since we have a slow motion replay and can't say for sure.
You are in minority of people in this discussion who think the penalty was the wrong call. One eejit even tried to suggest O'Connor was charging as POCB ran into and clattered him straight on. That is not "badly wrong".
I thought the penalty was def wrong at the time. Not so sure now but can see what it was given. Square ball wrong call. Dublin 'goal' inconclusive.
Even then, Dublin had the chances to win that game.
The ball looked over the line but the problem is not whether it was or wasn't, it's that the umpire was standing a yard away and wasn't even looking.
And square ball too. There's fecking two of them. Not hard to keep track. They've two basic jobs- watch for square ball and watch where ball crosses post/line. 7 officials in a game, granted the ref (and linesman) much more complex jobs. But 4 x umpires relatively simple job.
VAR in soccer came in because one linesman has to keep up with play and be in position of the line of players while also watching when ball is released. Not an easy job. If we need VAR in GAA to do the task of 2 x umpires because they're not up to it, then the issue is, a serious issue, with how we allocate officials in the game in the first place.
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 13, 2026, 09:00:55 AMQuote from: gallsman on July 12, 2026, 08:43:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 12, 2026, 07:19:36 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 12, 2026, 07:03:14 PMGer Brennan
"The referees need assistance because there's so much happening"
He thinks the referee got the three big calls wrong
The ref got one badly wrong, the umpires got one badly wrong. The goal line one you could forgive since we have a slow motion replay and can't say for sure.
You are in minority of people in this discussion who think the penalty was the wrong call. One eejit even tried to suggest O'Connor was charging as POCB ran into and clattered him straight on. That is not "badly wrong".
I thought the penalty was def wrong at the time. Not so sure now but can see what it was given. Square ball wrong call. Dublin 'goal' inconclusive.
Even then, Dublin had the chances to win that game.
That's it.
The Great Dublin team's value add was their ability to take their chances. I can count numerous occasions between 2010-2023 when they went for the jugular late, or capitalised on a mistake, or turned the screw when all was lost. Ger has a big task ahead of him, but the raw materials are there to improve Dublin's position,
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 09:13:34 AMThe ball looked over the line but the problem is not whether it was or wasn't, it's that the umpire was standing a yard away and wasn't even looking.
And square ball too. There's fecking two of them. Not hard to keep track. They've two basic jobs- watch for square ball and watch where ball crosses post/line. 7 officials in a game, granted the ref (and linesman) much more complex jobs. But 4 x umpires relatively simple job.
VAR in soccer came in because one linesman has to keep up with play and be in position of the line of players while also watching when ball is released. Not an easy job. If we need VAR in GAA to do the task of 2 x umpires because they're not up to it, then the issue is, a serious issue, with how we allocate officials in the game in the first place.
Yep that was the issue for me - the umpire nearest to it was looking straight ahead. The other umpire had a clear look along the line but wasn't the nearest to it. The positioning of the Kerry player who 'kept it out' was a bit of an indicator. He was backed up to the net! On the square ball, when was the last time a square ball call was given in intercounty? I can't remember seeing one in a long time. If i'm a coach i'm telling my players to get into the square and take their chances as they're rarely spotted. The penalty was very harsh. There was another incident late on when there should have been a Dublin free out for a knee in the back, which resulted in a Kerry score. Can argue the rights and wrongs of all those calls, but ultimately Dublin came out the wrong side of them all.
I see Jack O'connor has had rhe decency to come out and say Kerry got lucky. He said rhe same after Tyrone and Cork too if I'm not mistaken. So much luck from the refs for one county....
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on July 13, 2026, 09:39:29 AMI see Jack O'connor has had rhe decency to come out and say Kerry got lucky. He said rhe same after Tyrone and Cork too if I'm not mistaken. So much luck from the refs for one county....
Said the same in 2023. Then their luck ran out. Maybe the same will happen here
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 09:13:34 AMThe ball looked over the line but the problem is not whether it was or wasn't, it's that the umpire was standing a yard away and wasn't even looking.
And square ball too. There's fecking two of them. Not hard to keep track. They've two basic jobs- watch for square ball and watch where ball crosses post/line. 7 officials in a game, granted the ref (and linesman) much more complex jobs. But 4 x umpires relatively simple job.
VAR in soccer came in because one linesman has to keep up with play and be in position of the line of players while also watching when ball is released. Not an easy job. If we need VAR in GAA to do the task of 2 x umpires because they're not up to it, then the issue is, a serious issue, with how we allocate officials in the game in the first place.
There is a very reasonable suggestion that umpires for top games be appointed for the game, either from retired referees who lack the mobility to run up and down the field, or younger refs who may be appointed as intercounty refs in the future, or one of both.
Cora Staunton also noted that the LGFA have a possibility of video review, although it is rarely used. In these days of integration it would be wise to find out about this.
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 13, 2026, 10:23:35 AMQuote from: Armagh4sam2024 on July 13, 2026, 09:39:29 AMI see Jack O'connor has had rhe decency to come out and say Kerry got lucky. He said rhe same after Tyrone and Cork too if I'm not mistaken. So much luck from the refs for one county....
Said the same in 2023. Then their luck ran out. Maybe the same will happen here
One can only dream.
Kerry are clearly affected by the injuries to key men like White/Oshea. Struggling to get the form from last year but its enough so far.
If a scandalous umpire call hands Mayo Sam that would be a good outcome in some ways, to embarass the GAA if nothing else.
Kobe is 100% to get the fk away from it
Still don't see why there's not more interest in the video review.
- Each team has 3 reviews
- a replay or two shown to the ref on big screen
- keep it reserved for QFs onwards when it is knockout football in Croke park
This alone would have allowed the ref a second chance to call the following with a lot more certainty:
- Louth red card
- Kerry wrongly awarded 45 v Tyrone
- Kerry penalty v Dublin
- Kerry clear square ball goal
- Dublin non award of goal
Each of these would have taken 30 seconds to review on big screen.
I think there's merit in it but any form of video review gets a lot of bad press.
Quote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 11:44:38 AMStill don't see why there's not more interest in the video review.
- Each team has 3 reviews
- a replay or two shown to the ref on big screen
- keep it reserved for QFs onwards when it is knockout football in Croke park
This alone would have allowed the ref a second chance to call the following with a lot more certainty:
- Louth red card
- Kerry wrongly awarded 45 v Tyrone
- Kerry penalty v Dublin
- Kerry clear square ball goal
- Dublin non award of goal
Each of these would have taken 30 seconds to review on big screen.
I think there's merit in it but any form of video review gets a lot of bad press.
No problem with video review but wouldn't have helped regarding the no goal. Only goal line technology or the umpire being awake would have solved that one.
But I suppose the threat of a review might put the skids under some of them and actually force them to be more proactive. A lot of them don't want the hassle of making contentious decisions and take the easy way out, but if there was the threat of a review, they'd have to make hard calls or risk being showed up.
How would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
Would some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 13, 2026, 12:04:49 PMWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Should he not celebrate? Especially after being booed for large parts of the game yesterday?
Quote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 13, 2026, 12:04:49 PMWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Not a chance. Enjoy every bit of it, a player like him scoring and doing a fist pump to the crowd is worth more than a score. Love to see it
Quote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 13, 2026, 12:07:04 PMQuote from: The Hill is Blue on July 13, 2026, 12:04:49 PMWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Should he not celebrate? Especially after being booed for large parts of the game yesterday?
Chicken and Egg?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 13, 2026, 12:04:49 PMWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Yerra sure he can come up to Mayo and go nuts for the next couple of weeks with the rest of us, he can pose on the many beautiful beaches with AOS and head up to Ballina for a few pints and a Sam Maguire Credit Union Loan.
It might not be the best prep for an All Ireland final but sure he is only playing Mayo in a final and if nothing else, what it won't do for his performance, it will drive the Throne boys stone mad as he picks up yet another Celtic cross!!
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Quote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 11:44:38 AM- Louth red card
- Kerry wrongly awarded 45 v Tyrone
- Kerry penalty v Dublin
- Kerry clear square ball goal
- Dublin non award of goal
Only one of these would be obviously changed in favour of the other team on review. People still can't agree about the Louth red card, the penalty or the Dublin goal and I suspect people will never agree on any of them. The square ball goal is an obvious mistake, the Kerry 45 vs Tyrone would have been changed to a penalty for a blatant foot block.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:37:50 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Actually for most of us mere mortals that don't get to Croker for sellouts, umpires are the only show in town.
Enough of the what might have beens.
Time to look ahead to the Final.
Could the unthinkable happen?🥶
They're looking good☹️
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 13, 2026, 12:04:49 PMWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Paudie should have a word :(
Quote from: Keane on July 13, 2026, 12:38:31 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 11:44:38 AM- Louth red card
- Kerry wrongly awarded 45 v Tyrone
- Kerry penalty v Dublin
- Kerry clear square ball goal
- Dublin non award of goal
Only one of these would be obviously changed in favour of the other team on review. People still can't agree about the Louth red card, the penalty or the Dublin goal and I suspect people will never agree on any of them. The square ball goal is an obvious mistake, the Kerry 45 vs Tyrone would have been changed to a penalty for a blatant foot block.
Player got his jaw broken - no question it was a red surely?
QuoteQuoteWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Paudie should have a word :(
Aye , no better man
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 13, 2026, 12:04:49 PMWould some of the Kerry lads ever take David Clifford aside (for his own sake) and talk to him about his juvenile histrionics every time he as much as kicks a ball? Maybe he should take a leaf from the book of the many other Kerry legends such as Gooch Cooper who could carry greatness with coolness and civility. They let their craft and skill do the talking.
Theres a picture of him getting the middle finger from a dub in the crowd, has every right to give abit of theatrics back
Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2026, 12:57:15 PMEnough of the what might have beens.
Time to look ahead to the Final.
Could the unthinkable happen?🥶
They're looking good☹️
Last championship meeting in 2023 the unthinkable happened Kerry 0-17 Mayo 1-19 in Fitzgerald Stadium, 39 game championship winning run ended for Kerry.
Jack Coyne David McBrien Sam Callinan Conor Loftus Donnacha McHugh Matthew Ruane Jack Carney Jordan Flynn and Ryan O'Donoghue all started that game
Enda Hession, Stephen Coen was introduced off the bench.
To cap a frustrating year in the hurling and football more bad news for Galway. Just been knocked out of Love Island!
VAR - no thanks.
We spend 15 million every year on games development coaches. Why not spend 14, and put a million into training and upskilling our refs and umpires?
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:53:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:37:50 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Actually for most of us mere mortals that don't get to Croker for sellouts, umpires are the only show in town.
But there is a valid question here. Who are the umpires? Are they qualified? I wouldn't go down the VAR route, but that was an appalling decision because the umpire, who appeared to be checking out the ladies in the stand, simply couldn't have made amy decision
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 13, 2026, 05:47:17 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:53:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:37:50 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Actually for most of us mere mortals that don't get to Croker for sellouts, umpires are the only show in town.
But there is a valid question here. Who are the umpires? Are they qualified? I wouldn't go down the VAR route, but that was an appalling decision because the umpire, who appeared to be checking out the ladies in the stand, simply couldn't have made amy decision
That's what I'm saying. Bringing technology into it is not fixing the problem if the problem is umpire selection. Hurling there's a need for Hawkeye due to the sliothar size, speed and puck height. Shouldn't need it in football.
2nd year of the All-Ireland semi-finals done and dusted under the new rules none of the 4 games was close to what FRC hoped for let's be honest.
2nd year in a row we got a mis-match at the semi final stage. Credit to Mayo,Donegal going about their business though no neutrals wants to see a non contest semi-final.
Kerry had a routine win against Tyrone last year and yesterday was probably the worst quality Kerry v Dublin match since 2015 and that game had the excuse of poor weather.
2021 to 2024 All-Ireland semi-finals had Armagh beating Kerry,Tyrone beating Kerry and Mayo beating Dublin after extra time all memorable contests.
Also had Galway beating Donegal by 2 points,Kerry beat Dublin by 1 and Kerry beating Derry by 2.
Biggest margin win of all those All-Ireland semi-finals was Dublin by 7 points against Monaghan and that match was level with 10 minutes to play.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 13, 2026, 07:23:03 PM2nd year of the All-Ireland semi-finals done and dusted under the new rules none of the 4 games was close to what FRC hoped for let's be honest.
2nd year in a row we got a mis-match at the semi final stage. Credit to Mayo,Donegal going about their business though no neutrals wants to see a non contest semi-final.
Kerry had a routine win against Tyrone last year and yesterday was probably the worst quality Kerry v Dublin match since 2015 and that game had the excuse of poor weather.
2021 to 2024 All-Ireland semi-finals had Armagh beating Kerry,Tyrone beating Kerry and Mayo beating Dublin after extra time all memorable contests.
Also had Galway beating Donegal by 2 points,Kerry beat Dublin by 1 and Kerry beating Derry by 2.
Biggest margin win of all those All-Ireland semi-finals was Dublin by 7 points against Monaghan and that match was level with 10 minutes to play.
It's probably still too small a sample size for the new rules but I do think the old rules weren't as bad as people made out, especially summer football. As you correctly point out there were some unreal games in the latter stages of 2021 to 2024. 2024 final was terrible though, which helped people support the new rules.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 05:58:33 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 13, 2026, 05:47:17 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:53:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:37:50 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Actually for most of us mere mortals that don't get to Croker for sellouts, umpires are the only show in town.
But there is a valid question here. Who are the umpires? Are they qualified? I wouldn't go down the VAR route, but that was an appalling decision because the umpire, who appeared to be checking out the ladies in the stand, simply couldn't have made amy decision
That's what I'm saying. Bringing technology into it is not fixing the problem if the problem is umpire selection. Hurling there's a need for Hawkeye due to the sliothar size, speed and puck height. Shouldn't need it in football.
You've never done umpire, have you? Judging shots that are higher than the posts isn't always easy. You've to decide whether the ball would have clipped the post even fractionally. You'd be guessing.
Appropriate username all the same.
Its hard to be definitive but teams are playing with less safety first mentality [zero data just a feel] because they are forced to.
Two pointers can kill tension in a game I feel.
It would be awkard but a "score 2 arcs get 3 points" would be slightly fairer.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2026, 12:57:15 PMEnough of the what might have beens.
Time to look ahead to the Final.
Could the unthinkable happen?🥶
They're looking good☹️
Yeah. I think Jacko was relieved after Dubs and Tyrone as he knows how crucial White/ O'Shea are.
Mayo have not had a test of that level yet but it boils down to getting a big forward display. Andy will be in his element.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 13, 2026, 08:32:49 PMIts hard to be definitive but teams are playing with less safety first mentality [zero data just a feel] because they are forced to.
Two pointers can kill tension in a game I feel.
It would be awkard but a "score 2 arcs get 3 points" would be slightly fairer.
Bit of a killer I think of a team getting a goal then the opposition going straight down the field and hitting two pointer.
Not impressed by that.
Quote from: Mario on July 13, 2026, 08:14:04 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 13, 2026, 07:23:03 PM2nd year of the All-Ireland semi-finals done and dusted under the new rules none of the 4 games was close to what FRC hoped for let's be honest.
2nd year in a row we got a mis-match at the semi final stage. Credit to Mayo,Donegal going about their business though no neutrals wants to see a non contest semi-final.
Kerry had a routine win against Tyrone last year and yesterday was probably the worst quality Kerry v Dublin match since 2015 and that game had the excuse of poor weather.
2021 to 2024 All-Ireland semi-finals had Armagh beating Kerry,Tyrone beating Kerry and Mayo beating Dublin after extra time all memorable contests.
Also had Galway beating Donegal by 2 points,Kerry beat Dublin by 1 and Kerry beating Derry by 2.
Biggest margin win of all those All-Ireland semi-finals was Dublin by 7 points against Monaghan and that match was level with 10 minutes to play.
It's probably still too small a sample size for the new rules but I do think the old rules weren't as bad as people made out, especially summer football. As you correctly point out there were some unreal games in the latter stages of 2021 to 2024. 2024 final was terrible though, which helped people support the new rules.
Obvious bias aside I still don't get this narrative about the 2024 final. Both commentators and the RTE pundits were full of praise on the day. Fitzmaurice on several occasions described it as the best final of recent years.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 13, 2026, 11:01:45 PMQuote from: Mario on July 13, 2026, 08:14:04 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 13, 2026, 07:23:03 PM2nd year of the All-Ireland semi-finals done and dusted under the new rules none of the 4 games was close to what FRC hoped for let's be honest.
2nd year in a row we got a mis-match at the semi final stage. Credit to Mayo,Donegal going about their business though no neutrals wants to see a non contest semi-final.
Kerry had a routine win against Tyrone last year and yesterday was probably the worst quality Kerry v Dublin match since 2015 and that game had the excuse of poor weather.
2021 to 2024 All-Ireland semi-finals had Armagh beating Kerry,Tyrone beating Kerry and Mayo beating Dublin after extra time all memorable contests.
Also had Galway beating Donegal by 2 points,Kerry beat Dublin by 1 and Kerry beating Derry by 2.
Biggest margin win of all those All-Ireland semi-finals was Dublin by 7 points against Monaghan and that match was level with 10 minutes to play.
It's probably still too small a sample size for the new rules but I do think the old rules weren't as bad as people made out, especially summer football. As you correctly point out there were some unreal games in the latter stages of 2021 to 2024. 2024 final was terrible though, which helped people support the new rules.
Obvious bias aside I still don't get this narrative about the 2024 final. Both commentators and the RTE pundits were full of praise on the day. Fitzmaurice on several occasions described it as the best final of recent years.
Still think football isn't a patch on what it used to be in terms of entertainment. It's like a basketball game for large stretches. Scully and Paudie Clifford playing some sort of quarterback role on the edge of the arc, but it's all very cagey and risk averse. Players turning back to avoid contact. Lots of very talented players out there, but they're all playing percentages, 'probing' around the edge of the arc (or 'raiding' as Ger Canning would say). The Championship format can't account for that mindset. Take me back to the 90's.
Get on board with something folks.
Under the old rules, if one team had no interest in playing football then the other team had no choice. They also had to bide their time.
Under the new rules either team can force the issue at the drop of a hat.
Can it solve the problem whereby neither team has an impetus? No. But same as every sport in that regard.
It's not perfect. But it's not basketball either. To suggest basketball when we've watched a weekend of blocks and challenges is, simply, a lack of understanding or an unwillingness to understand.
Quote from: Sportacus on July 13, 2026, 11:14:39 PMQuote from: David McKeown on July 13, 2026, 11:01:45 PMQuote from: Mario on July 13, 2026, 08:14:04 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 13, 2026, 07:23:03 PM2nd year of the All-Ireland semi-finals done and dusted under the new rules none of the 4 games was close to what FRC hoped for let's be honest.
2nd year in a row we got a mis-match at the semi final stage. Credit to Mayo,Donegal going about their business though no neutrals wants to see a non contest semi-final.
Kerry had a routine win against Tyrone last year and yesterday was probably the worst quality Kerry v Dublin match since 2015 and that game had the excuse of poor weather.
2021 to 2024 All-Ireland semi-finals had Armagh beating Kerry,Tyrone beating Kerry and Mayo beating Dublin after extra time all memorable contests.
Also had Galway beating Donegal by 2 points,Kerry beat Dublin by 1 and Kerry beating Derry by 2.
Biggest margin win of all those All-Ireland semi-finals was Dublin by 7 points against Monaghan and that match was level with 10 minutes to play.
It's probably still too small a sample size for the new rules but I do think the old rules weren't as bad as people made out, especially summer football. As you correctly point out there were some unreal games in the latter stages of 2021 to 2024. 2024 final was terrible though, which helped people support the new rules.
Obvious bias aside I still don't get this narrative about the 2024 final. Both commentators and the RTE pundits were full of praise on the day. Fitzmaurice on several occasions described it as the best final of recent years.
Still think football isn't a patch on what it used to be in terms of entertainment. It's like a basketball game for large stretches. Scully and Paudie Clifford playing some sort of quarterback role on the edge of the arc, but it's all very cagey and risk averse. Players turning back to avoid contact. Lots of very talented players out there, but they're all playing percentages, 'probing' around the edge of the arc (or 'raiding' as Ger Canning would say). The Championship format can't account for that mindset. Take me back to the 90's.
Agree with you, especially the bold bit
But there is no way back from the possession based game of today. Teams arent suddenly going to hoof the ball up the field as far as they can like they did in the 80's and 90's. And while that may look like caveman tactics today , it was all we knew , but it led to some great battles, big hits and kept the crowd on the edge of their seats. It's like a cricket match these days.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 13, 2026, 11:01:45 PMQuote from: Mario on July 13, 2026, 08:14:04 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 13, 2026, 07:23:03 PM2nd year of the All-Ireland semi-finals done and dusted under the new rules none of the 4 games was close to what FRC hoped for let's be honest.
2nd year in a row we got a mis-match at the semi final stage. Credit to Mayo,Donegal going about their business though no neutrals wants to see a non contest semi-final.
Kerry had a routine win against Tyrone last year and yesterday was probably the worst quality Kerry v Dublin match since 2015 and that game had the excuse of poor weather.
2021 to 2024 All-Ireland semi-finals had Armagh beating Kerry,Tyrone beating Kerry and Mayo beating Dublin after extra time all memorable contests.
Also had Galway beating Donegal by 2 points,Kerry beat Dublin by 1 and Kerry beating Derry by 2.
Biggest margin win of all those All-Ireland semi-finals was Dublin by 7 points against Monaghan and that match was level with 10 minutes to play.
It's probably still too small a sample size for the new rules but I do think the old rules weren't as bad as people made out, especially summer football. As you correctly point out there were some unreal games in the latter stages of 2021 to 2024. 2024 final was terrible though, which helped people support the new rules.
Obvious bias aside I still don't get this narrative about the 2024 final. Both commentators and the RTE pundits were full of praise on the day. Fitzmaurice on several occasions described it as the best final of recent years.
Hell of a lot better than the 2025 shit show, in fact probably better than any game from quarter final stage on since then? Bar Kerry and Tyrone this year?
The power of the media has never been so obvious in the last few days.
How I've laughed at the meltdown from some pundits and ex Dublin players, didn't want to know 2 weeks ago when David Gough rode Galway from start to finish. Paul Flynn should be banished from the Sunday Game for his nonsense.
They always have to have someone from Dublin on it of course!
If they have to inflict these pundits on us at least have neutral ones.
I'm not one for looking at the past with rose tinted glasses but my youthful recollection of highlights/pundits featured just Enda Colleran who was excellent.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 13, 2026, 08:24:13 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 05:58:33 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 13, 2026, 05:47:17 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:53:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:37:50 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Actually for most of us mere mortals that don't get to Croker for sellouts, umpires are the only show in town.
But there is a valid question here. Who are the umpires? Are they qualified? I wouldn't go down the VAR route, but that was an appalling decision because the umpire, who appeared to be checking out the ladies in the stand, simply couldn't have made amy decision
That's what I'm saying. Bringing technology into it is not fixing the problem if the problem is umpire selection. Hurling there's a need for Hawkeye due to the sliothar size, speed and puck height. Shouldn't need it in football.
You've never done umpire, have you? Judging shots that are higher than the posts isn't always easy. You've to decide whether the ball would have clipped the post even fractionally. You'd be guessing.
Appropriate username all the same.
I have actually. It's a judgement call. I've yet to see any controversy on calls within reason. It's calls that are clearly a foot or more out that cause issues, or umpires looking the other way.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 13, 2026, 08:24:13 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 05:58:33 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 13, 2026, 05:47:17 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:53:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:37:50 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 13, 2026, 12:26:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 13, 2026, 12:13:49 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2026, 11:57:34 AMHow would non award of Dublin goal have been changed? As has been said many times, the replays DO NOT show the ball crossing the line.
Do we want referees to look at a replay and go "ah yeah, sure this is probably what happened, I'll change my mind"?
I get that, would need a dedicated goal line camera that I'm sure wouldn't be most challenging thing to overcome. It's not a perfect system but this year has had so many big calls gone wrong that is costing teams a fair shot.
What system does the pansyball have in place? Realistically if it's wild expensive not worth it for the once in a blue moon theres controversy but if it's something that could added to hawk eye easily enough then why not
If there's simple technology that doesn't take over the game and lead to long reviews, why not. But Hawkeye was more needed for hurling more than anything else. For football if I had to choose one I'd much rather have competent umpires over Hawkeye.
Well it shouldn't need to be one or the other lol.
Definitely needs to be looked at having proper referees doing umpire
Actually for most of us mere mortals that don't get to Croker for sellouts, umpires are the only show in town.
But there is a valid question here. Who are the umpires? Are they qualified? I wouldn't go down the VAR route, but that was an appalling decision because the umpire, who appeared to be checking out the ladies in the stand, simply couldn't have made amy decision
That's what I'm saying. Bringing technology into it is not fixing the problem if the problem is umpire selection. Hurling there's a need for Hawkeye due to the sliothar size, speed and puck height. Shouldn't need it in football.
You've never done umpire, have you? Judging shots that are higher than the posts isn't always easy. You've to decide whether the ball would have clipped the post even fractionally. You'd be guessing.
Appropriate username all the same.
But we aren't talking about point shots. We are talking about an umpire not watching the game when he needs to be calling whether a shot is over the line or not.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 14, 2026, 08:24:30 AMThe power of the media has never been so obvious in the last few days.
How I've laughed at the meltdown from some pundits and ex Dublin players, didn't want to know 2 weeks ago when David Gough rode Galway from start to finish. Paul Flynn should be banished from the Sunday Game for his nonsense.
At the start of the match there was an incident similar to the penalty, except much softer, where O Cofaigh-Byrne turned into a Kerry player and fell over resulting in a 2 pointer for Dublin.
Sean O'Shea was taken out of it with a late sliding tackle as he offloaded the ball - no free.
A lineball for Kerry ended up overturned for a phantom free to Dublin.
Scully attacked 2 Kerry players on his way out from the Kerry goalline clearance. At a minimum, 2 yellow cards.
Any of these dodgy Dublin decisions discussed by any of the Sunday Game pundits or any other pundits? Of course not, that'd be balanced punditry.
Quote from: blanketattack on July 14, 2026, 10:29:46 AMQuote from: Maroon Manc on July 14, 2026, 08:24:30 AMThe power of the media has never been so obvious in the last few days.
How I've laughed at the meltdown from some pundits and ex Dublin players, didn't want to know 2 weeks ago when David Gough rode Galway from start to finish. Paul Flynn should be banished from the Sunday Game for his nonsense.
At the start of the match there was an incident similar to the penalty, except much softer, where O Cofaigh-Byrne turned into a Kerry player and fell over resulting in a 2 pointer for Dublin.
Sean O'Shea was taken out of it with a late sliding tackle as he offloaded the ball - no free.
A lineball for Kerry ended up overturned for a phantom free to Dublin.
Scully attacked 2 Kerry players on his way out from the Kerry goalline clearance. At a minimum, 2 yellow cards.
Any of these dodgy Dublin decisions discussed by any of the Sunday Game pundits or any other pundits? Of course not, that'd be balanced punditry.
Not quite the same thing. Dublin got done by the officials. Just did. Whataboutery isn't relevant.
We take our beating and move on, but we are entitled to our seethe.
Quote from: blanketattack on July 14, 2026, 10:29:46 AMQuote from: Maroon Manc on July 14, 2026, 08:24:30 AMThe power of the media has never been so obvious in the last few days.
How I've laughed at the meltdown from some pundits and ex Dublin players, didn't want to know 2 weeks ago when David Gough rode Galway from start to finish. Paul Flynn should be banished from the Sunday Game for his nonsense.
At the start of the match there was an incident similar to the penalty, except much softer, where O Cofaigh-Byrne turned into a Kerry player and fell over resulting in a 2 pointer for Dublin.
Sean O'Shea was taken out of it with a late sliding tackle as he offloaded the ball - no free.
A lineball for Kerry ended up overturned for a phantom free to Dublin.
Scully attacked 2 Kerry players on his way out from the Kerry goalline clearance. At a minimum, 2 yellow cards.
Any of these dodgy Dublin decisions discussed by any of the Sunday Game pundits or any other pundits? Of course not, that'd be balanced punditry.
That one was a foul on a man going down for the ball, don't think I remember the others tbh.
And Scully "attacked" the Kerry boys, have a word with yourself lol
Ye biased supporters are indeed allowed to seethe.
But so called experts shouldn't be going on 1 sided rants.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 10:52:38 AMYe biased supporters are indeed allowed to seethe.
But so called experts shouldn't be going on 1 sided rants.
You know you're going to get a wee bit of bias from a Kerry/Dublin whatever pundit. Be worse if they went the other way to avoid being seen as biased like Neville in the soccer.
2 big games in a row now the marginal calls and blatant calls have went to Kerry.
We really could do with a separate thread for venting at officials and overanalysing decisions.
For this thread is pretty much unreadable at the minute.
Didn't think ref was that bad myself. Umpire performance would have annoyed me if it happened to my team. If it went for my team I'd be very happy with the defender on the no goal. Luck definitely was with the winners especially the other goal chance that rebounded onto crossbar. Dublin definitely had the chances despite the umpires.
And the 12 wides.....
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 10:31:37 AMQuote from: blanketattack on July 14, 2026, 10:29:46 AMQuote from: Maroon Manc on July 14, 2026, 08:24:30 AMThe power of the media has never been so obvious in the last few days.
How I've laughed at the meltdown from some pundits and ex Dublin players, didn't want to know 2 weeks ago when David Gough rode Galway from start to finish. Paul Flynn should be banished from the Sunday Game for his nonsense.
At the start of the match there was an incident similar to the penalty, except much softer, where O Cofaigh-Byrne turned into a Kerry player and fell over resulting in a 2 pointer for Dublin.
Sean O'Shea was taken out of it with a late sliding tackle as he offloaded the ball - no free.
A lineball for Kerry ended up overturned for a phantom free to Dublin.
Scully attacked 2 Kerry players on his way out from the Kerry goalline clearance. At a minimum, 2 yellow cards.
Any of these dodgy Dublin decisions discussed by any of the Sunday Game pundits or any other pundits? Of course not, that'd be balanced punditry.
Not quite the same thing. Dublin got done by the officials. Just did. Whataboutery isn't relevant.
We take our beating and move on, but we are entitled to our seethe.
with all due respect, you lost because you missed so many easy shots and made a lot of silly passes when a point was on
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 14, 2026, 12:01:28 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 10:31:37 AMQuote from: blanketattack on July 14, 2026, 10:29:46 AMQuote from: Maroon Manc on July 14, 2026, 08:24:30 AMThe power of the media has never been so obvious in the last few days.
How I've laughed at the meltdown from some pundits and ex Dublin players, didn't want to know 2 weeks ago when David Gough rode Galway from start to finish. Paul Flynn should be banished from the Sunday Game for his nonsense.
At the start of the match there was an incident similar to the penalty, except much softer, where O Cofaigh-Byrne turned into a Kerry player and fell over resulting in a 2 pointer for Dublin.
Sean O'Shea was taken out of it with a late sliding tackle as he offloaded the ball - no free.
A lineball for Kerry ended up overturned for a phantom free to Dublin.
Scully attacked 2 Kerry players on his way out from the Kerry goalline clearance. At a minimum, 2 yellow cards.
Any of these dodgy Dublin decisions discussed by any of the Sunday Game pundits or any other pundits? Of course not, that'd be balanced punditry.
Not quite the same thing. Dublin got done by the officials. Just did. Whataboutery isn't relevant.
We take our beating and move on, but we are entitled to our seethe.
with all due respect, you lost because you missed so many easy shots and made a lot of silly passes when a point was on
I'm not disputing Kerry deserved it. Dublin's game management was poor.
But there were three huge calls, all went Kerry's way. One was unambiguously wrong, one was iffy and we will never know about the goal because the umpire wasn't even watching the game.
Quote from: Armamike on July 13, 2026, 01:46:59 PMQuote from: Keane on July 13, 2026, 12:38:31 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 11:44:38 AM- Louth red card
- Kerry wrongly awarded 45 v Tyrone
- Kerry penalty v Dublin
- Kerry clear square ball goal
- Dublin non award of goal
Only one of these would be obviously changed in favour of the other team on review. People still can't agree about the Louth red card, the penalty or the Dublin goal and I suspect people will never agree on any of them. The square ball goal is an obvious mistake, the Kerry 45 vs Tyrone would have been changed to a penalty for a blatant foot block.
Player got his jaw broken - no question it was a red surely?
Quote from: Armamike on July 13, 2026, 01:46:59 PMQuote from: Keane on July 13, 2026, 12:38:31 PMQuote from: TyroneTam on July 13, 2026, 11:44:38 AM- Louth red card
- Kerry wrongly awarded 45 v Tyrone
- Kerry penalty v Dublin
- Kerry clear square ball goal
- Dublin non award of goal
Only one of these would be obviously changed in favour of the other team on review. People still can't agree about the Louth red card, the penalty or the Dublin goal and I suspect people will never agree on any of them. The square ball goal is an obvious mistake, the Kerry 45 vs Tyrone would have been changed to a penalty for a blatant foot block.
Player got his jaw broken - no question it was a red surely?
I certainly agree with you but since the poster I quoted thinks it would have benefited from an on field review I suspect he thinks it was harsh. I have seen/heard lots of people stilling arguing the toss on it even after the broken jaw was revealed.
My point being, if we're talking about incidents we're all still arguing about weeks (sometimes years) later, what difference is looking at a TV for 30 seconds at the side of the field going to make? I seriously doubt Brendan Cawley thinks he got the penalty wrong today like.
Does anyone know what the supervision/review process is? I know every professional soccer game has the referee sat down and given feedback. Does Cawley or his match report get reviewed? Does he learn from his mistakes?
did Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
Rules thread
https://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=25027.3735
Quote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
There was a softer penalty given against Down on Saturday and nobody mentioned it again. Similar type tackle with less contact - no goal came from it so it was forgot about maybe.
Quote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
No worse than your average game. In fact much better I'd say.
Penalty only thing I'd have issue with, but then again it's often a line of sight thing.
Quote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
Who picked the umpires? Whose team is it?
This week's media topic is goal line cameras, Var or whatnot. I accept that there is an element of it being the Dubs, but that shitshow has no place in an AI SF. Not good enough and I am genuinely asking does Croker feed back to him that it wasnt good enough?
I have seen angles showing both Dublin and Kerry 'goals' look over the line and on the line in super slo-mo, so that can be parked a bit.
I think Comerford's reaction didn't help as if him and the players went mad for the square ball it may have worked, but the ball crossing the line eclipsed that call.
Dublin, Small in particular, were so wasteful and even as they were within touching distance a few times took on shots that had zero conviction.
Am I mad to think Mayo could do something here? They have so much more pace all around the field than Dublin and big lads who can move in and around the middle.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 02:26:46 PMQuote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
Who picked the umpires? Whose team is it?
This week's media topic is goal line cameras, Var or whatnot. I accept that there is an element of it being the Dubs, but that shitshow has no place in an AI SF. Not good enough and I am genuinely asking does Croker feed back to him that it wasnt good enough?
What exactly are people at Croke Pk going to feed back to the man? You think refs don't rewatch the game back and know the mistakes they've made? What should happen to him now, suspension from county games, sacked?? And the ref for the final, makes mistakes, the same? Must be a surplus of refs in Dublin, unlike the rest of the country.
During any given passage of play a dozen other things can be going on, off the ball stuff, players roaring at the ref, lines men talking to the ref about other incidents, players blocking the refs line of sight etc etc....take the ref's course, see how handy it is to not create a 'shitshow'
I'm asking if the GAA has a formal review mechanism for elite referees like other sports. It's not complicated.
It is what it is. There's always margin calls in sport. Paul Flynn being very sore on TV is giving it more legs than it really needs. Had the same type decisions favour his team I bet he wouldn't want to talk about it and have a narrative leading up to the final of Dublin getting decisions and putting extra scrutiny on refs.
I thought Dublin harried Kerry very well and forced a lot of turnovers. If Mayo can bring the work rate we've seen in the past, and a bit of that chaos, they certainly have the talent to make it a classic and even end the hoodoo.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 03:28:57 PMI'm asking if the GAA has a formal review mechanism for elite referees like other sports. It's not complicated.
And in this instance a formal review would culminate in finding that Cawley got nearly every big call correct, but missed the square ball.
He actually a good game, much as it pains me to say it. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, teams that work harder and chase lost causes tend to seem luckier.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 02:26:46 PMQuote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
Who picked the umpires? Whose team is it?
This week's media topic is goal line cameras, Var or whatnot. I accept that there is an element of it being the Dubs, but that shitshow has no place in an AI SF. Not good enough and I am genuinely asking does Croker feed back to him that it wasnt good enough?
do they feed back to all refs? Ref in your game against Galway did not have the best of games? Did he have that fed back? Ref in Tyrone/Kerry game? Why just Cawley?
Dublin asked the right questions, but Kerry's game intelligence helped them find all the answers
Ger Brennan's gameplan worked very well in many respects, but it is extremely difficult to shut down all of Kerry's threats
Paul O'Brien
Tue Jul 14 2026 - 13:35
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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/07/14/dublin-asked-the-right-questions-but-kerrys-game-intelligence-helped-them-find-all-the-answers/
Dublin got a lot right in their approach to the semi-final encounter with Kerry, but still came up short with that bit of luck that Jack O'Connor spoke about after. Ger Brennan would have had a number of KPIs they would have chased heading into the game, and it is probably fair to say they achieved a lot of them.
1. David Byrne did an excellent job on David Clifford, who was restricted to 1-5, a scoring return which would be man of the match territory for most, but not Clifford. Byrne kept him under tight reins and commanded that usual "Clifford zone", not allowing him in behind the defence with the frequency he usually does. The outcome of the game could have been different if the brilliant Byrne block down in the 40th minute on Clifford had finished in the back of the net, but Shane Murphy spoiled Con O'Callaghan on the breakaway attack.
2. Dylan Geaney was kept ineffective throughout, with his two meaningful contributions coming from a short kickout won and his two-point effort that dropped short resulting in a goal.
3. Dublin managed to win 11/30 (37%) of Shane Murphy's kickouts and also won 15/21 (71%) of their own, meaning the edged the kickout battle overall.
4. Dublin had two strong streaks on Shane Murphy's kickout, winning five in a row just before and after half time, returning 0-4. However, a similar streak of four between the 57th and 66th minute returned no score. While Dublin won the possession battle on the kickouts, they didn't punish accordingly on the scoreboard.
5. Dublin won the turnover battle too, and then managed to win the shot count 34 to 27.
The problem with Kerry, as Mayo are likely to find out, is they have so many threats and will play the game that is presented to them by the opposition. Their game IQ is really impressive. When Kerry won their penalty, it was interesting to note that Sean O'Shea was holding the ball, allowing all the panic and disruption to diffuse before handing it over to David Clifford, who scored on the rebound. This psychological aspect of penalties and the attention towards them has been particularly evident in the World Cup.
O'Shea was immense throughout the game and his game awareness in possession and his ability to manipulate space across the full width of the attacking 45m zone was evident. He won two advanced marks, converting one when it was brought back for the free in the 15th minute, and brought another out for a superb two-pointer in the 52nd minute.
We saw four advanced marks in the game. Eoin Kennedy and Brian Ó Beaglaoich made the other two, but there is a difference in recognised full-back line men venturing into these attacking zones and the Kenmare man. Neither Kennedy nor Ó Beaglaoich converted.
The 15th minute score came at the end of a possession that lasted almost three minutes, where Paudie Clifford got his hands on ball seven times, O'Shea handled it five times and David Clifford handled it five times - but most importantly he manipulated the space inside for O'Shea The Kenmare man was involved in a lot of the good attacking play on display from Kerry, but he was given considerable freedom to help shape attacks.
O'Shea again showed leadership
.as the clock ticked towards the 35th minute to land a brilliant score to level proceedings, as he worked with David Clifford to expose the space left in behind the Fossa man. Again this space manipulation and understanding is key to everything Kerry do.
Sean O'Shea's score before the first-half hooter was a perfect example of how Kerry can create space.
Sean O'Shea's score before the first-half hooter was a perfect example of how Kerry can create space.
After last years All-Ireland final, the freedom afforded to Paudie Clifford was seen as a mistake by Donegal, but it is very difficult to get hands on him when he is in form. He managed 69 possessions in the game on Sunday and Dublin's structure allowed this, but the movement around him was extremely impressive and coordinated.
The manipulation of the space to empty David's typical corner, and the channels created alongside this, was exploited expertly by Paudie. He was also a pivotal cog around the kickout as he won two at the back of the landing zone and also was the second receiver off the shoulder on another two in the first half, after presenting short first. One of the kickouts won at the back of the break resulted in the O'Shea two pointer, referenced above.
When Dublin did look to push out a bit further on Paudie he retreated out to the zone between the attacking 65m line and the new halfway line, the buffer zone, knowing that it was stretching Dublin inside when they were chasing the game that bit more in the final quarter. The maps above show his adjustment in positioning across that final quarter; he was also back twice getting possession back inside his own 13m line in this period too.
Dropping deeper allowed Paudie Clifford to show his kicking range, after his movement helped create that space inside.
What is an acceptable score to concede off David Clifford? 1-5 is a good day's work for David Byrne, considering the goal came off a penalty rebound, one point was right at the death and another came in the 63rd minute after he was turned over as Dublin men converged on him, but Mark O'Shea recovered immediately and offloaded.
It is important to note, as mentioned above, in terms of space manipulation the impact of his positioning on the performances of O'Shea and brother Paudie Clifford - a clear understanding of the impact of the collective.
David Clifford's movement, and the attention he commands, helps to create space for others.
The Kerry defence must also get praise for the pressure exerted on the Dublin attack. There was a lot of pressure on Dublin shots, despite them often being in good shooting locations. Dublin's accuracy of 18 scores from 34 attempts will gnaw at them, just 52%.
There were differences between the Kerry and Dublin defence. Kerry showed their respect of Niall Scully, as they didn't allow him the time on the ball that was afforded at the other end to Paudie. He didn't have a dedicated marker but Kerry released players out to him to restrict his game influence, which was still meaningful despite the attention he received.
Kerry made a point of paying respect to Niall Scully, understanding his influence on Dublin.
Evan Comerford's quick long kickouts to his right side to Lee Gannon (7th min), Alex Gavin (20th min) and Ciarán Kilkenny (60th min) were all strong attacking kickouts, yet returned no score, despite going over so many Kerry bodies and leaving a Dublin attack facing the goal. Two were rushed in possession. The time difference in possession between Dublin's attacking plays were considerably shorter than Kerry's, as Kerry exerted more composed ball control.
Kerry retreat on 7th minute kickout showing the necessary defensive scramble.
As Andy Moran said in his post-match interview, everyone expects Kerry to win the final, but with Mayo there is always hope when they bring madness. Kerry are unlikely to have as much ball control in the final but that doesn't mean that the damage will be any less as they'll attack based on the gaps that are afforded to them by Mayo.
Paul O'Brien is a performance analyst with The Performance Process
Quote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
A little point of information going unnoticed since Sunday....Both Jack & Dr Cian ex Kildare managers ...Who was their ref for in-house games & challenge matches
Think it was a penalty though seen many not given in the same area, seen square balls this yr in games not even talked about. Goal line clearance, who could tell if we lived in a age of no replays, freeze frame. Even with that, we still not sure its all over.
Seen a couple of crowd clips, Niall Scully was a lucky fella to not even see a black card for his afters
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 14, 2026, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 02:26:46 PMQuote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
Who picked the umpires? Whose team is it?
This week's media topic is goal line cameras, Var or whatnot. I accept that there is an element of it being the Dubs, but that shitshow has no place in an AI SF. Not good enough and I am genuinely asking does Croker feed back to him that it wasnt good enough?
do they feed back to all refs? Ref in your game against Galway did not have the best of games? Did he have that fed back? Ref in Tyrone/Kerry game? Why just Cawley?
Literally my question.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 03:28:57 PMI'm asking if the GAA has a formal review mechanism for elite referees like other sports. It's not complicated.
If you put are referees assessed in GAA into Google it says they are. I know from speaking to an assessor they do it for club matches in Derry. And am pretty certain we are not ahead of the game in this.
Assessors are obviously good but who then assesses them?
Incorrect decisions only matter to the defeated team. I don't think refs have as much control on the outcome of games as people think.
This year has been a bad year though... That square ball decision was ludicrous. When it really mattered the decisions that went against Tyrone had a large bearing and I find it hard to believe Clare wouldn't have won had quaide got the black he should have.
A few ones this year I do think have impacted outcomes.
Ex Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
Said it was a square ball.
The most obvious decision that went against Tyrone was the 45 given to Kerry which was a wide. In real time I called it as a penalty for Kerry. If the ref wanted to influence the game for Kerry he gives a penalty (foot block, tackle with foot). 45 given maybe Kerry score maybe they don't, wide given Tyrone get kick out maybe they win it maybe Kerry snaffle it and stick the ball in the net. The consequences of individual decisions don't always play out as you would expect
Quote from: GTP on July 14, 2026, 06:51:50 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 03:28:57 PMI'm asking if the GAA has a formal review mechanism for elite referees like other sports. It's not complicated.
If you put are referees assessed in GAA into Google it says they are. I know from speaking to an assessor they do it for club matches in Derry. And am pretty certain we are not ahead of the game in this.
Assessors are obviously good but who then assesses them?
Incorrect decisions only matter to the defeated team. I don't think refs have as much control on the outcome of games as people think.
Refs in Armagh definitely assessed at club games, you know because they turn into greater pricks than usual :D.
Ah refs/officials absolutely do effect games hugely, especially at the top level the margins are so small. Probably 3 levels to the big calls on Sunday, the ghost goal was impossible to call in real time in fairness, will forgive that one. In my view the penalty is definitely not a penalty, but in real time can see why it was given. The square ball was a horrendous decision and absolutely wrong (unless you're Pat Spillane).
So there's a 9 point swing that another day goes Dublins way, so of course they have a huge impact.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 07:44:08 PMEx Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
Said it was a square ball.
Yes it was a penalty and a square ball.
For me the ball was over the line for Dublin but we will never know for sure without goal line technology.
Even if the square ball alone is given the Dubs only have to get a point from their last attack.
Quote from: tyroneStatto on July 14, 2026, 09:24:04 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 07:44:08 PMEx Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
Said it was a square ball.
Yes it was a penalty and a square ball.
For me the ball was over the line for Dublin but we will never know for sure without goal line technology.
Even if the square ball alone is given the Dubs only have to get a point from their last attack.
It's never as simplistic as that. We don't know what would have happened if Dublin got a free out instead.
Quote from: square_ball on July 14, 2026, 09:43:22 PMQuote from: tyroneStatto on July 14, 2026, 09:24:04 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 07:44:08 PMEx Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
Said it was a square ball.
Yes it was a penalty and a square ball.
For me the ball was over the line for Dublin but we will never know for sure without goal line technology.
Even if the square ball alone is given the Dubs only have to get a point from their last attack.
It's never as simplistic as that. We don't know what would have happened if Dublin got a free out instead.
Its not of course but the Kerry goal was a fair momentum switch at the time.
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 14, 2026, 10:06:57 PMQuote from: square_ball on July 14, 2026, 09:43:22 PMQuote from: tyroneStatto on July 14, 2026, 09:24:04 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 07:44:08 PMEx Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
Said it was a square ball.
Yes it was a penalty and a square ball.
For me the ball was over the line for Dublin but we will never know for sure without goal line technology.
Even if the square ball alone is given the Dubs only have to get a point from their last attack.
It's never as simplistic as that. We don't know what would have happened if Dublin got a free out instead.
Its not of course but the Kerry goal was a fair momentum switch at the time.
Yeah true enough. It was a big moment for
Kerry as up to that point it did look like the Dubs may have had their number.
It's Mayo's year. The luck is hanging out of Kerry and it'll break.
Should be a national holiday if Mayo win. And an end to curses and stuff.
Could be a bad day for the Catholic Church all the same.
Quote from: ONeill on July 14, 2026, 11:07:40 PMIt's Mayo's year. The luck is hanging out of Kerry and it'll break.
Should be a national holiday if Mayo win. And an end to curses and stuff.
Could be a bad day for the Catholic Church all the same.
Curse apparently over already.
QuoteThe "Mayo Curse" can no longer be active because all the surviving members of the 1951 winning team have passed away.
Legend states that an enraged priest placed a hex on the Mayo GAA team following their 1951 All-Ireland victory, decreeing they would not win another title until every member of that team had died.
The final surviving player, Paddy Prendergast, died in September 2021, and the last surviving substitute, Mick Loftus, died in April 2023, technically breaking the condition of the hex.
Is anyone going to tell Kerry?
That changes everything. Mayos to lose now.
Refs need to make split decisions on sometimes unfavourable line of sight angles so wrong calls are understandable.
But after having the benefit of time and multiple replay angles, I really don't understand how anyone can say it was a definite penalty. If anyone got charged in the chest it was the Dublin player. And that's a stretch too. Whoever sees a foul in there may as well make it a no contact sport.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 05:41:18 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 14, 2026, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 14, 2026, 02:26:46 PMQuote from: westbound on July 14, 2026, 12:48:25 PMdid Cawley actually make ANY mistake??
The 3 big disputed calls
- Penalty? Many people think it was a penalty, many people think it wasn't. Therefore, it's hard to say he definitely made a mistake on this one.
- Square ball goal - definintely a square ball, but sure it's the umpires that should be watching for this? Obviously cawley should be watching it too and maybe he could have called it, but the first responsibilty is with the umpires here
- 'Ghost goal' - How in the name of all that's holy can the ref be blamed for 'missing' this in real time? With the benefit of replays, still images and 48hours later, it's still not 100% clear if the ball was over the line or not. You can argue that the umpires should have seen it, but even that is harsh imo. But the ref certainly couldn't call it from out the field.
I'm no fan of cawleys's but let's be fair to the man too.
Who picked the umpires? Whose team is it?
This week's media topic is goal line cameras, Var or whatnot. I accept that there is an element of it being the Dubs, but that shitshow has no place in an AI SF. Not good enough and I am genuinely asking does Croker feed back to him that it wasnt good enough?
do they feed back to all refs? Ref in your game against Galway did not have the best of games? Did he have that fed back? Ref in Tyrone/Kerry game? Why just Cawley?
Literally my question.
you were focussing on Cawley, obviously due to the weekend just past and you being a Dublin fan (I assume) I dont remember you being as vocal about it when key decisions went your way v Galway
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 15, 2026, 09:06:15 AMRefs need to make split decisions on sometimes unfavourable line of sight angles so wrong calls are understandable.
But after having the benefit of time and multiple replay angles, I really don't understand how anyone can say it was a definite penalty. If anyone got charged in the chest it was the Dublin player. And that's a stretch too. Whoever sees a foul in there may as well make it a no contact sport.
Absolutely.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 15, 2026, 01:27:30 AMQuote from: ONeill on July 14, 2026, 11:07:40 PMIt's Mayo's year. The luck is hanging out of Kerry and it'll break.
Should be a national holiday if Mayo win. And an end to curses and stuff.
Could be a bad day for the Catholic Church all the same.
Curse apparently over already.
QuoteThe "Mayo Curse" can no longer be active because all the surviving members of the 1951 winning team have passed away.
Legend states that an enraged priest placed a hex on the Mayo GAA team following their 1951 All-Ireland victory, decreeing they would not win another title until every member of that team had died.
The final surviving player, Paddy Prendergast, died in September 2021, and the last surviving substitute, Mick Loftus, died in April 2023, technically breaking the condition of the hex.
Is anyone going to tell Kerry?
Paddy Prendergast lived in Tralee for years funny enough.
The stars are aligning.
For the ritual to succeed they need to wear the 1951 jersey, Kerry folk are aware and attempting to prevent this via "legal technicalities".
Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 07:44:08 PMEx Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
A real ref or 2 random GAAboard posters.....
Hmmmmmm....
Edit - 3 random...
Never a penalty
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 15, 2026, 10:33:12 AMThe stars are aligning.
For the ritual to succeed they need to wear the 1951 jersey, Kerry folk are aware and attempting to prevent this via "legal technicalities".
Certainly Mayo's All-Ireland final to lose now.
As long as the young lads avoid listening to advice of has beens they will be alright.
Dubs had plenty of goal chances, Mayo just need to nail them when they come.
Hope officials will be alert to Kerry dirt
Confirmed for the All-Ireland final
Referee Martin McNally (Monaghan)
Stand By Referee: Sean Hurson (Tyrone)
Line Umpire: Thomas Murphy (Galway)
Sideline Official: Sean Lonergan (Tipperary)
Score Umpires: Ben Woods, Niall Reilly, Mark Gilsenan and Anthony Marron
Hawkeye Official: Killan Jones (Kildare)
Timing Official: Marty Duffy (Sligo)
Well deserved hes done a fair job this year
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 15, 2026, 03:09:06 PMConfirmed for the All-Ireland final
Referee Martin McNally (Monaghan)
Stand By Referee: Sean Hurson (Tyrone)
Line Umpire: Thomas Murphy (Galway)
Sideline Official: Sean Lonergan (Tipperary)
Score Umpires: Ben Woods, Niall Reilly, Mark Gilsenan and Anthony Marron
Hawkeye Official: Killan Jones (Kildare)
Timing Official: Marty Duffy (Sligo)
Brilliant news.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 15, 2026, 09:06:15 AMRefs need to make split decisions on sometimes unfavourable line of sight angles so wrong calls are understandable.
But after having the benefit of time and multiple replay angles, I really don't understand how anyone can say it was a definite penalty. If anyone got charged in the chest it was the Dublin player. And that's a stretch too. Whoever sees a foul in there may as well make it a no contact sport.
I really can't see how you can say it wasn't. The angle from low looking towards the hill which was similar to the angle that the ref has makes it look stone wall in the POCB turns his shoulder straight into the Kerry players chest. A clear foul that I would expect to see given all day long. I am genuinely surprised it's even a talking point.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 15, 2026, 06:24:36 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 15, 2026, 09:06:15 AMRefs need to make split decisions on sometimes unfavourable line of sight angles so wrong calls are understandable.
But after having the benefit of time and multiple replay angles, I really don't understand how anyone can say it was a definite penalty. If anyone got charged in the chest it was the Dublin player. And that's a stretch too. Whoever sees a foul in there may as well make it a no contact sport.
I really can't see how you can say it wasn't. The angle from low looking towards the hill which was similar to the angle that the ref has makes it look stone wall in the POCB turns his shoulder straight into the Kerry players chest. A clear foul that I would expect to see given all day long. I am genuinely surprised it's even a talking point.
Because I've looked at it from each angle. I don't know where you're getting hitting on the chest of the Kerry player from either, he is nowhere near his chest. Kerry player turns into the tackle leading with the shoulder. Dublin player has feet firmly planted into ground and attempts to meet square with shoulder. Kerry player comes into the tackle side on with feet a little off the ground just before impact and slightly off balance which leaves it that it's not a clean contact shoulder to shoulder. If anyone was hit in the chest it's the defender.
I acknowledged referee mightn't have the best angle at the time but I don't know how anyone can now claim a penalty with benefit of multiple angles.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 15, 2026, 07:27:19 PMQuote from: David McKeown on July 15, 2026, 06:24:36 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 15, 2026, 09:06:15 AMRefs need to make split decisions on sometimes unfavourable line of sight angles so wrong calls are understandable.
But after having the benefit of time and multiple replay angles, I really don't understand how anyone can say it was a definite penalty. If anyone got charged in the chest it was the Dublin player. And that's a stretch too. Whoever sees a foul in there may as well make it a no contact sport.
I really can't see how you can say it wasn't. The angle from low looking towards the hill which was similar to the angle that the ref has makes it look stone wall in the POCB turns his shoulder straight into the Kerry players chest. A clear foul that I would expect to see given all day long. I am genuinely surprised it's even a talking point.
Because I've looked at it from each angle. I don't know where you're getting hitting on the chest of the Kerry player from either, he is nowhere near his chest. Kerry player turns into the tackle leading with the shoulder. Dublin player has feet firmly planted into ground and attempts to meet square with shoulder. Kerry player comes into the tackle side on with feet a little off the ground just before impact and slightly off balance which leaves it that it's not a clean contact shoulder to shoulder. If anyone was hit in the chest it's the defender.
I acknowledged referee mightn't have the best angle at the time but I don't know how anyone can now claim a penalty with benefit of multiple angles.
We will have to agree to disagree then. The angle I'm referring to makes it clear to me that the last movement is by POCB and it's a movement of his left shoulder towards and through the chest of the attacker.
Of course I could be wrong it certainly wouldn't be the first time but there's nothing I've seen to suggest it wasn't a foul.
Dublin should be aggrieved by the Square Ball non decision but apart from that I think Cawley got it right.
It was far from the worst referring we have seen this year.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2026, 10:53:40 AMQuote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2026, 07:44:08 PMEx Ref Maurice Deegan on RTÉ radio earlier.
Said the penalty was totally correct, frontal charge, rough play, foul and yellow card.
A real ref or 2 random GAAboard posters.....
Hmmmmmm....
Edit - 3 random...
Think Mayo give Kerry massive trouble this weekend.
If Mayo can forget their record in finals for the next week they have a massive chance on Sunday.
No baggage around this team.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 20, 2026, 10:41:21 PMThink Mayo give Kerry massive trouble this weekend.
If Mayo can forget their record in finals for the next week they have a massive chance on Sunday.
No baggage around this team.
I feel the same way and I'm normally very down on Mayo's chances in big games. Just think you have to take great confidence from how Tyrone and Dublin battled against Kerry, a damp squib would be bitterly disappointing. I think they have every chance of at least putting them to the pin of their collar, I hope I'm right
I am always wary that you want a final to be good, that there is an element of flase hope.
But Mayo have speed and can play off the cuff up front. I know it's unfair after his semi-final but I never fully trust Ryan O'Donoghue, and Mayo really need him to lead up top.
Dublin's shooting and some of their decision-making really let them down, showing Kerry are not unbeatable.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 21, 2026, 09:48:42 AMI am always wary that you want a final to be good, that there is an element of flase hope.
But Mayo have speed and can play off the cuff up front. I know it's unfair after his semi-final but I never fully trust Ryan O'Donoghue, and Mayo really need him to lead up top.
Dublin's shooting and some of their decision-making really let them down, showing Kerry are not unbeatable.
I think Foley is a really good match for O'Donoghue and will greatly limit his influence, as a neutral would be hoping a for a great battle with both lads coming away with a pile of credit afterwards. I really don't know where Mayo are at, looked awful earlier in the year, looked unreal against Louth but what were they up against that day? Louth didn't play anywhere close to what they're capable of, how much of that was down to Mayo nullifying them I don't know. Didn't look wonderful against an average Cork side either.
Hope for a cracking game and obviously would love to see Mayo get over the line, but would never begrudge Clifford another All Ireland.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 21, 2026, 10:20:02 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on July 21, 2026, 09:48:42 AMI am always wary that you want a final to be good, that there is an element of flase hope.
But Mayo have speed and can play off the cuff up front. I know it's unfair after his semi-final but I never fully trust Ryan O'Donoghue, and Mayo really need him to lead up top.
Dublin's shooting and some of their decision-making really let them down, showing Kerry are not unbeatable.
I think Foley is a really good match for O'Donoghue and will greatly limit his influence, as a neutral would be hoping a for a great battle with both lads coming away with a pile of credit afterwards. I really don't know where Mayo are at, looked awful earlier in the year, looked unreal against Louth but what were they up against that day? Louth didn't play anywhere close to what they're capable of, how much of that was down to Mayo nullifying them I don't know. Didn't look wonderful against an average Cork side either.
Hope for a cracking game and obviously would love to see Mayo get over the line, but would never begrudge Clifford another All Ireland.
You'd be hoping the Tyrone form line would be a good gauge for Mayo. We just about beat Mayo and then really put it up to Kerry. Obviously it doesn't work like that in real life but that Kerry backline can definitely be got at.
Any way both could be disqualified?
Quote from: square_ball on July 21, 2026, 10:43:49 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 21, 2026, 10:20:02 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on July 21, 2026, 09:48:42 AMI am always wary that you want a final to be good, that there is an element of flase hope.
But Mayo have speed and can play off the cuff up front. I know it's unfair after his semi-final but I never fully trust Ryan O'Donoghue, and Mayo really need him to lead up top.
Dublin's shooting and some of their decision-making really let them down, showing Kerry are not unbeatable.
I think Foley is a really good match for O'Donoghue and will greatly limit his influence, as a neutral would be hoping a for a great battle with both lads coming away with a pile of credit afterwards. I really don't know where Mayo are at, looked awful earlier in the year, looked unreal against Louth but what were they up against that day? Louth didn't play anywhere close to what they're capable of, how much of that was down to Mayo nullifying them I don't know. Didn't look wonderful against an average Cork side either.
Hope for a cracking game and obviously would love to see Mayo get over the line, but would never begrudge Clifford another All Ireland.
You'd be hoping the Tyrone form line would be a good gauge for Mayo. We just about beat Mayo and then really put it up to Kerry. Obviously it doesn't work like that in real life but that Kerry backline can definitely be got at.
Yeah would be hoping that rings true. Mayo have that big impact player Conroy off the bench (won't score the 10 or 12 points whatever it was McCurry got but will definitely cause Kerry problems with his running power)
Dont think Mayo will be fazed at all and the speed of schedule really helps in this regard.
Mayos bench has some solid options.
Fortune favours the brave and they have goals in them. Kerry you would think have used up their luck to get to this final. A potential classic.
Why Mayo can win. Plenty of reasons. They've a goalkeeper who makes the game look easy. They've a nice balance of size and athleticism in defence. They've developed a central player - McHugh - who seems to understand now he's not a county level midfielder but is a county level spoiler of athletic players. Their midfield is functional ie they are honest, hard working spoilers. They've got a highest class wing forward in Flynn. They've got pacy, ball winning finishers up front. Their star player ROD has finally learned how to handle Croke Park. They've got serious cover on their bench in pretty much every position. They've got the perfect age profile to win Sam, with most of the team seasoned D1 footballers. They've got a manager who so far has shown he's not sentimental, but same manager still can throw a buffalo into FF if needed. But most of all, they're neither predictable nor reliant on any particular type of football or any single player.
Why Mayo could get smashed to bits. Nothing to do with ability, composure, experience. This boils down to two sides of a mental equation. One being that Mayo in AI finals usually find some brand new way to make their lives more difficult than needs be, especially in the first half. The other being that it's Kerry they're up against, and they'll smell a mismatch before anyone notices, and exploit it before anyone can change it up.
I genuinely believe that if Ruane and/or DOC are brought into the Mayo team as WHBs, then they'll be able to weather any early storm / limit Kerry's ability to win 10 kickouts in a row and end the game while their big men are still full of running. That move would allow McBrien to go to FB on O'Shea or Geaney, Callinan or Hession to sweep / take turns at Paudie, and leave McHugh to accept that keeping David Clifford to 1.04 or 1.06 from play, means Mayo will likely win.
The first half is more important than the second half this weekend.
Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford said in Irish Times no miracle is needed to beat Kerry just need to get the match ups right to win.
Possible match ups?
David McBrien v Séan O'Shea
Donnacha McHugh v David Clifford
Enda Hession v Paudie Clifford
Sam Callinan v Joe O'Connor
Paul Murphy v Darragh Beirne
Jason Foley v Ryan O'Donoghue
Dylan Casey v Kobe McDonald
Gavin White v Jordan Flynn
Whats scored and conceded on turnovers and shooting efficiency will be key as it has been in the majority of matches under these new rule. Hurling All-Ireland final was poor for the 2nd year in a row hopefully the same doesn't happen with the football final.
DOC? As in Diarmuid O'Connor?
He hasnt featured much
Sub V Meath
Not in panel V Cork/Tyrone
Not used V Louth
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 21, 2026, 07:36:41 PMDOC? As in Diarmuid O'Connor?
He hasnt featured much
Sub V Meath
Not in panel V Cork/Tyrone
Not used V Louth
Yup.
It would be a left field selection of course. He's obviously not the player he once was. But as the teams that have kept Kerry close have been the ones who've been able to fend off Kerry dismantling their kickout, it has to considered.
Or to put it another way - is Stephen Coen / Conor Loftus a more suitable candidate for O'Connor and O'Shea, than DOC?
Coen at least has some shithousery. Martin McNally booked him for a "mistimed" block against Cork.
Andy will not change much imo
Every game has a life of it's own and with the new rules that has been amplified so much, but its still very hard to see Kerry not winning, altho I do agree the short turnaround could work in Mayo's favour, they won't have time to overthink it!
I have not rated Mayo at all this year, they were the team I was hoping Armagh would get in the draws tbh, but they are where they are and good luck to them. I reckon a hiding is more likely than a Mayo win, but I genuinely hope they win.
Mayo have Dubs and Tyrone to thank for exposing some of Kerry weaknesses and tendencies.
Kerry havent conceded goals since Donegal. If Mayo nab 2 goals they could create some serious doubts in Kerry.
Going back to back is rarely done for good reason , to do it with many top men not really firing would be some achievement for Kerry.
Here is Darragh's Article from the Times:
Darragh Ó Sé: In this All-Ireland final, it's hard to see anything other than a Kerry win
Mayo will try to target any weakness in the Kerry full-back line but there are too many areas where Jack O'Connor's side are stronger
The more I think about Sunday's All-Ireland final, the more straightforward it looks. This wouldn't normally be the way of it. Most years, you spend the week talking away about how it's going to be a close one and how there's very little to choose between the two teams. But I think when you stand back from it this time around, it's very hard to come up with anything other than a Kerry win.
I might turn out to be wrong. If I am, it wouldn't be the first time or the last time. But you have to break these games down to known metrics and you can only go with what's in front of you before a game. To me, there's a very clear line of form here – Kerry have beaten Dublin, Tyrone and Armagh in their last three games, Mayo have beaten Louth and Cork and lost to Tyrone.
I'm not saying Mayo can't improve. All I'm saying is that the evidence we have so far is that Kerry have been beating a higher level of opponent than Mayo have. So that has to be the starting point. What are these teams capable of? If we go by the results so far, Kerry are capable of beating All-Ireland contenders. We can't say the same about Mayo. Not yet anyway.
The other thing Kerry have in their favour is the experience of winning finals. All these players have won an All-Ireland and a lot of them have won two. The likes of Paul Geaney and Paul Murphy have three. They know how these games go. The occasion won't affect them. Being favourites won't affect them. These are all things Kerry don't have to worry about.
Jack O'Connor knows the road as well, obviously. In the build-up to a final, Jack always puts a high premium on freshness. That's his number one requirement going into any final – that every Kerry player heads to the stadium feeling fresh and ready to perform. He's been around for a few losing finals and that can help as well. He knows what has worked and what hasn't.
O'Connor won't complicate things. The Kerry attitude to finals is fairly simple. The starting point is usually something along the lines of, "Where do the opposition think we're weak?" And once they've identified that, they go after it, double down on it and aim to turn it into a strength.
So for this final, Mayo probably think that there's a bit of joy to be got targeting Dylan Casey and Paul Murphy in Kerry's full-back line. Tyrone and Dublin both had plenty of scoring chances, so if you're in the Mayo camp you're thinking that if those chances fall to Ryan O'Donoghue, Darragh Beirne or Kobe McDonald, then you could be in business.
My guess would be that O'Connor and his management team will be challenging Murphy and Casey and putting the onus on them. Mayo think they're going to send a couple of young fellas in there to go to town on ye lads – what are you going to do about it? They can do that because they know that if it doesn't go to plan, Kerry have the personnel to change it up. Tom O'Sullivan is waiting in the wings.
That's what it all comes down to, really. If you look through the squads available to the two managers, Kerry just have more good players than Mayo. They're able to field a starting team without Tom O'Sullivan, Brian Ó Beaglaoich, Paul Geaney and Shane Ryan. Add in Tadhg Morley and that's five All Stars that O'Connor is able to leave on the bench. He won't be doing it out of loyalty – he'll be doing it because he thinks the players ahead of them are in better form.
So the task for Mayo looks very difficult. If they are going to have any chance, I think they will need at least 13 players performing above the ability they have shown so far. All-Ireland finals are about executing the skills of the game at a speed you haven't had to do them at before. Speed is what separates teams at this level – speed of thought, speed of decision-making, speed of execution.
I would be confident that a lot of the Kerry players' skills will hold up at a higher speed, purely because we've seen them do it before. But you can't be sure of that with enough of the Mayo players. They might find out very quickly that the things they were able to do against Cork and Louth in Croke Park don't get them the same results in an All-Ireland final. And by then, it'll be too late.
So many unlikely things have to come together for Mayo to win this. They have to shut down both Cliffords and Seánie O'Shea. And by shutting them down, I mean it's not going to be good enough to say David only scored 1-5 and Paudie was held to 0-4 and Seánie was kept to 0-5 from frees. Those would be respectable enough tallies from a Mayo point of view but that's 1-14 on the board before either of the Geaneys or the O'Connors or Gavin White or any of the rest of them kick a score.
There are just too many fires for Mayo to put out. The hurling final showed the template – Limerick had all the aces but they also worked like dogs until the game was killed stone dead either side of half-time. That's what Kerry will be aiming for on Sunday.
Because the really ominous thing for Mayo is that Kerry haven't put in a complete performance yet. They haven't opened their shoulders or come off the pitch going, "That's it, lads – that was the performance we've been looking for all year." No better place than a final for it to happen.
If Kerry do that, it's going to be a huge ask for anyone to match them. I just don't see Mayo being up to it.
"Kerry just have more good players than Mayo"
And he gets paid to write?
That public display of confidence is a fair swing in a little over a year by Darragh Ó Sé's in his columns, where he suggested the Kerry team should be "put out of their misery," ended up unintentionally providing the ultimate motivational fuel.
Those comments, made after an underwhelming performance against Meath, caused quite a stir in the Kingdom. It deeply hurt the players, but the fallout proved incredibly galvanizing. Both Jack O'Connor and Paudie Clifford publicly referenced Ó Sé's critique as the spark that ignited their championship fire, propelling the squad to rally and silence the critics
A slap on the wrist and forced to talk up Kerry from now on? Sure their two defeats to Donegal this year was similar to that Meath defeat and performance last year.
I suppose when you look at it coldly Kerry just need to hit their level from last years final (which isn't that much of a jump) to win whereas, Mayo being more of an unknown need everything to go right for us to win.
That probably explains Kerry's more open show of confidence in the win than the usual yerrah we are used to?
McStay picking a strange time (4 days before the Final) to air his grievances over his sacking.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41884396.html
Are we looking at another hurling final rerun?
The men from the West have surprised everyone, including themselves in getting to a final.
They face a hardened, winning team with generational players from Munster and are banking on a few 19 year olds in their forwards to somehow make the difference.
Will this one be over by half time as well?
Would Mayo fear the Dubs? Or kerry with a half fit David?
People are right to say Kerry havent hit the heights but they are leaving it long enough. You dont magically turn form on, even though this particular side can get out of jail via individual brilliance.
I would give Mayo a bigger chance than most. Its rare to see Kerry folk be so openly confident of victory.
The quick turnaround is a gift but have to feel this could be won on the sideline as much as anything.
When you look at Galway hurlers with men deep and isolating young lads up front, Limerick were always going to gobble that up. Mayo's style won't be playing into Kerry's hands.
I think the difference is that Mayo's game can hurt teams at all levels. Of course, they need to be on their game, or else it'll be over by half time.
IF Mayo can get an early run on Kerry the confidence will grow. You may forget about keeping Clifford quiet but even if you stop his big booming two-pointers it'll be a boost.
Yup. Easier said than done but getting a lead will be crucial, the toss for playing into Hill/Davin will be important as well.
Mayo 2-20
Kerry 2-18
If ye want a laugh read the extremely long post from "Pittsburgh" on here.
Didnt read it all but I can picture the guy behind the screen.
https://www.mft.ie/yes-we-can-go-there-again/#comments
Can't see anything but a big Kerry win
Kerry 2-25
Mayo 1-18
David Clifford with 1-10
Kerry name unchanged team.
Mayo have a real nice mix of youth and experience in this team, youth that have a swagger. They are peaking at the right time and have some great options off the bench
We all know what Kerry have, but for one reason or the other this group has failed to get over the line as often as they should have over the past 5-6 years. There is something missing with them in a tight game, they look great when winning well.
This has the potential to be like the hurling final where limerick got out in front and just kept them at arms length by managing the game, similar to how Kerry managed Dublin in the Semi final
But, Kerry confidence is openly higher than I have seen since 1982, a day the underdog wearing an alternative white jersey managed to pull one out of the fire. Its been a long time coming but I think this will be Mayo's time..
Would love to see Mayo finally win it but Kerry by 10 points and Mayo's main attacking stars snuffed out. Can see Kerry going for the jugular from the throw in.
QuoteWould love to see Mayo finally win it but Kerry by 10 points and Mayo's main attacking stars snuffed out. Can see Kerry going for the jugular from the throw in.
Like Tadhg Kennelly did in 2009? ;)
Hopefully the ref pulls kerry on the attempts to bully and intimidate the young lads.
I noted one of Martin McNallys umpires is a lad under 30 and rest not old men.
I believe Mayo can absolutely win the game, Kerry are going to need huge displays from White / O Shea and the midfield engine. Mayo are very fit and should be right in it barring a mental collapse.
Would be some boon for the new rules if they do it IMO.
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Tony Brosnan out injured replaced in the 26 by fit again Paul Geaney.
In his eight All-Ireland finals as manager, Jack O'Connor has never once made a late change. The team named in advance is the team that has started
If you told me back in April that Mayo would be in the All-Ireland with people backing them to win it, after us just beating them by 10 points, I'd have a face like the carved turnips in nearby Turlough House. But here we are. Andy did make changes after that game, although they still looked in a dodgy place after their goal living a charmed life against Monaghan (still without o'Hanlon at that time). They got a strange but of luck after an unlucky defeat to Tyrone as it set them on an easier route, and had a bit of luck with Meath's red card which initially looked like it should have been a free and tap over point to Meath, and probably enough to hold on. It's been plain sailing since then - comfortably beating Cork and Louth, enjoying the open spaces of Croke Park, while Kerry were not comfortable against Tyrone and Dublin. However if Kerry play to their best, they will win. An off day, and the Mayo famine will finally be over as they have the fire power to secure a famous win.
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Tony Brosnan out injured replaced in the 26 by fit again Paul Geaney.
In his eight All-Ireland finals as manager, Jack O'Connor has never once made a late change. The team named in advance is the team that has started
Paul Geaney captain , but David Clifford was stand in captain in the semi. I noticed they've moved him to 14 to get around the no 13 jinx, just in case
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 23, 2026, 10:24:02 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 23, 2026, 09:23:33 PM(https://i.ibb.co/3yqhrcmS/HN7yi-NZXo-AA-y-Bu.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mCwzD45h)
Tony Brosnan out injured replaced in the 26 by fit again Paul Geaney.
In his eight All-Ireland finals as manager, Jack O'Connor has never once made a late change. The team named in advance is the team that has started
Paul Geaney captain , but David Clifford was stand in captain in the semi. I noticed they've moved him to 14 to get around the no 13 jinx, just in case
If this is accurate no team with their on field captain wearing number 13 has won the All-Ireland final.
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On another note and no doubt old news to Mayo people. Jordan Flynn,Kobe McDonald are brothers. Both have the same mother, she played and was a big fan of basketball hence the Kobe,Jordan names.
If teams keep moving their captain to a position other than 13, then nobody will even win with a no 13 captain.
Kerry have the better team and thats about the height of it.
Mayo in 7 championship games have scored
6-159 (177) 1-22 per game
Conceded 7-128 (149) 1-18 per game
Three top scorers Ryan O'Donoghue 2-51,Kobe McDonald 1-25,Darragh Beirne 2-15 a total of 5-91 (106) Mayo scores without those three 1-68 (71)
Kerry in 7 championship games have scored
14-141 (183) 2-20 per game
And Conceded 4-130 (142) 1-17 per game.
David Clifford 6-44,Dylan Geaney 0-22 and Paudie Clifford 1-18 a total of 7-84 (105) have scored between them and Kerry scores without those three 7-57 (78)
Rhubarbs average skewed by Louth game.
Kerry B
1. Shane Ryan
2. Evan Looney
3. Tadgh Morley
4. Eddie Healy
5. Brian O'Beagleoich
6. Arim Heimrich
7. Tom O'Sullivan
8. Barry Dan O'Sullivan
9. Killian Trant
10. Michael Burns
11. Tony Brosnan
12. Keith Evans
13. Tomás Kennedy
14. Paul Geaney
15. Killian Spillane
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2026, 09:09:37 AMRhubarbs average skewed by Louth game.
Yeah, disregard all Ireland semi finals.
Munster championship games against Clare are far more relevant ;D
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 24, 2026, 10:32:11 AMKerry B
1. Shane Ryan
2. Evan Looney
3. Tadgh Morley
4. Eddie Healy
5. Brian O'Beagleoich
6. Arim Heimrich
7. Tom O'Sullivan
8. Barry Dan O'Sullivan
9. Killian Trant
10. Michael Burns
11. Tony Brosnan
12. Keith Evans
13. Tomás Kennedy
14. Paul Geaney
15. Killian Spillane
That's serious depth and a few game changers there.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 24, 2026, 10:32:11 AMKerry B
1. Shane Ryan
2. Evan Looney
3. Tadgh Morley
4. Eddie Healy
5. Brian O'Beagleoich
6. Arim Heimrich
7. Tom O'Sullivan
8. Barry Dan O'Sullivan
9. Killian Trant
10. Michael Burns
11. Tony Brosnan
12. Keith Evans
13. Tomás Kennedy
14. Paul Geaney
15. Killian Spillane
Hasn't established themselves at senior county level yet. Kerry's bench would be stronger with Barry Dan O'Sullivan and Tony Bronsnan. Brian O'Beagleoich,Tom O'Sullivan probably starters but for injury issues all year.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 24, 2026, 12:27:08 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 24, 2026, 10:32:11 AMKerry B
1. Shane Ryan
2. Evan Looney
3. Tadgh Morley
4. Eddie Healy
5. Brian O'Beagleoich
6. Arim Heimrich
7. Tom O'Sullivan
8. Barry Dan O'Sullivan
9. Killian Trant
10. Michael Burns
11. Tony Brosnan
12. Keith Evans
13. Tomás Kennedy
14. Paul Geaney
15. Killian Spillane
Hasn't established themselves at senior county level yet. Kerry's bench would be stronger with Barry Dan O'Sullivan and Tony Bronsnan. Brian O'Beagleoich,Tom O'Sullivan probably starters but for injury issues all year.
All good enough players from what I've seen (haven't seen much/any of Trant/Healey from memory.
Kennedy is a big handful, Looney and Heimrich played a bit this year from what I remember and only for Keith Evans who knows what way that Tyrone game finishes up?
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Mayo have nothing to lose
No one expected them to be here and no one expects them to win
If Mayo are still in the game at half time I think they have a chance
(I vowed I'd never watch another final after 2021, but have been cajoled by my sons into watching on Sunday)
When you look at that Mayo midfield and half forward line they are big and can move much better than most over the ground.
Ah I'm living in hope more than anything.
One player that doesn't get mentioned is Breen with Kerry who gets on so much ball. He always seems to be the deeper pivot when Paudie is moving around.
Breen can be sloppy but hes a rolls royce too. Mayo turnovers will be something Kerry want to avoid as much as possible but I feel a lot of older narratives are irrelevant under new rules.
I think Conor Loftus starting is a "goal positive" approach.
There is huge danger with the speed and space available, if Mayo can click properly there are goals.
Cloud dry day forecast with high temp of 19C. Mayo are seriously conditioned and I reckon kerry subs could come on a touch earlier than usual.
Would expect Kerry to win this well. Mayo teams always wilt against Kerry in a final. Mayo team 1-9 no where near level of team last decade. Like Limerick last week Kerry will go after Mayo on the kickout and when in possession in own half. Mayo have avoid same mistakes as Galway did when in possession.
Paul Geaney could have speech written by time enters the field. Will he give speech in Irish or English?
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 24, 2026, 03:10:55 PMBreen can be sloppy but hes a rolls royce too. Mayo turnovers will be something Kerry want to avoid as much as possible but I feel a lot of older narratives are irrelevant under new rules.
I think Conor Loftus starting is a "goal positive" approach.
There is huge danger with the speed and space available, if Mayo can click properly there are goals.
Cloud dry day forecast with high temp of 19C. Mayo are seriously conditioned and I reckon kerry subs could come on a touch earlier than usual.
Midfield and centre forwards are problem areas for Mayo all year. Don't think Loftus is answer at 11. Be interesting to see if Matthew Ruane starts.
Quote from: Gael85 on July 24, 2026, 03:12:40 PMWould expect Kerry to win this well. Mayo teams always wilt against Kerry in a final. Mayo team 1-9 no where near level of team last decade. Like Limerick last week Kerry will go after Mayo on the kickout and when in possession in own half. Mayo have avoid same mistakes as Galway did when in possession.
Paul Geaney could have speech written by time enters the field. Will he give speech in Irish or English?
Geaney would retire if they win youd imagine. Some way to sign off Club and County All Irelands. He could create havoc for Mayo with high ball, they had a stutter against Cork on it.
QuoteMayo have nothing to lose
Yeah nothing apart from All-Ireland final. Why people still use lines such as that and free shots,bonus territory etc when 70 minutes away from winning All-Ireland I'll never know.
This final reminds me of the 2022 final when the odds was similar,Kerry was just as confident and the lads from the west unsure if they would even be competitive. It turned out to be a fine margin contest with debatable calls late on getting Kerry over the line. Ryan O'Donoghue is well capable of matching Shane Walsh final display from 4 years ago. Curb his influence then it will be harder for Beirne,McDonald to have a big influence be interesting to see has Jack O'Connor and co have their homework done.
I shouldn't let one man colour a whole county but David Brady and his nonsense in 2021 really put me off Mayo. His complete lack of respect for Tyrone and general attitude of we'll only have to turn up and roll these boys over was a farce. Tyrone had played better than Mayo did in the All Ireland semi finals in 2021 I am adamant about that
He is back this week in the Examiner I see - still painting a picture of Tyrone being some sort of no marks who miraculously turned them over. Absolutely bizzare. Anyway - I think I am just about over it - good luck to Mayo I hope this is the year, it would be special to see it - all the best
"It's not Kerry that has left their brand on Mayo but Tyrone", insists the Castlebar man. "The county is still scarred from Tyrone in '21. It's not the same county – I wouldn't be saying it too loud – and it's not the same supporter base either."
"We can say we're the same but that final defeat knocked back the players and the county a long step. Because of that, I definitely feel this team has to just be in a final and then use that experience."
Brady has always been a mouthy bollix but part of the charm of the Mayo folk. Brady fancied himself a hard man and was annoyed by priors with Tyrone.
They get carried away and big themselves up only to fall on their face. I do be worried for them with some of the chat from veterans around them, I am sure Andy will have them primed.
Always felt Mayo too nice, or self regarding. Kerry will test that.
I'm not entirely sure convinced this won't be another 2004 or 2006. Even when Kerry have looked under the cosh, they have not necessarily looked like losing games. Mayo on the other hand have lost to both Roscommon and Tyrone. They also beat a Louth team in the semi who lost to a poor (at the time) Dublin team quite heavily.
I wish them luck here, but Kerry have been preparing for this all season and no team has really been able to match them.
From journalist Jack Madden
Since 2000 teens that have played In the senior football All-Ireland final.
2000 - Joe Bergin
2002 - Colm Cooper & Ronan Clarke
2005 - Darran O'Sullivan
2010 - Ciaran Sheehan
2012 - Paddy McBrearty
2013 - Jack McCaffrey
2014 - Darrach O'Connor
2025 - Finnbarr Roarty
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on July 24, 2026, 04:41:47 PMI'm not entirely sure convinced this won't be another 2004 or 2006. Even when Kerry have looked under the cosh, they have not necessarily looked like losing games. Mayo on the other hand have lost to both Roscommon and Tyrone. They also beat a Louth team in the semi who lost to a poor (at the time) Dublin team quite heavily.
I wish them luck here, but Kerry have been preparing for this all season and no team has really been able to match them.
Yeah I have that feeling too.
Mayo usually seem to perform well in QFs and semis , beating defending champions, putting in huge performances to then go and lose the final , usually in spectacular circumstances. Such as giving away a silly penalty (Hennelly), stupid sending off (Vaughan), missing penalties (RO'D) and easy frees (AOS), or giving away soft goals especially when they're on top .
I sense a big Kerry victory without them really hitting top form. I really hope I'm wrong, but I have cheered on Mayo in countless finals in the past only to be disappointed (God knows how their own fans feel), and I'm not sure if I can muster up enough energy to go again.
You'd have to fancy Kerry but wouldn't write Mayo off. The way I look at it, all bets are off as to where previous results earlier in the championship stand. Sometimes a team can look out of place and you just know or sometimes a team can struggle initially but really grow into a competition and find their feet. Mayo have a hint of that at the moment. Haven't grown their beards out like Tyrone in 08 or anything like that, but they've definitely grown in stature for me of late. Nice balance to them too and if they can show half the fight of previous Mayo teams, they've got a few more strings to their bow in hurting a top opponent where it counts.
You just never know.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 24, 2026, 04:32:39 PMBrady has always been a mouthy bollix but part of the charm of the Mayo folk. Brady fancied himself a hard man and was annoyed by priors with Tyrone.
They get carried away and big themselves up only to fall on their face. I do be worried for them with some of the chat from veterans around them, I am sure Andy will have them primed.
Always felt Mayo too nice, or self regarding. Kerry will test that.
Nobody in Mayo listens to a word David Brady says, he's not in any Mayo papers or podcasts (of which there are several) because everyone knows he's a loudmouth bullshitter.
But having said that, he's probably good ould craic!
McNally as ref for the final? Surely there were better options there.
I think its always a bit pointless talking about past Finals.
Mayo are so young they dont have real battle scars so it's not an issue.
Also parking back to older teams, Mayo were up against that awesome Dublin team who would beat the current Kerry side 9 times out of 10.
Brady was a fair decent footballer. remember Mayo putting him on Donaghy all too late one day at full bck.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 25, 2026, 01:27:46 AMBrady was a fair decent footballee, remember Mayo putting him on Donaghy all too late one day at full bck.
Yeah that was 06, he said afterwards he was "sent in to look for survivors".
A good line in fairness!
Quote from: Gael85 on July 24, 2026, 03:12:40 PMWould expect Kerry to win this well. Mayo teams always wilt against Kerry in a final. Mayo team 1-9 no where near level of team last decade. Like Limerick last week Kerry will go after Mayo on the kickout and when in possession in own half. Mayo have avoid same mistakes as Galway did when in possession.
Paul Geaney could have speech written by time enters the field. Will he give speech in Irish or English?
Mayo haven't played against Kerry in a final in 20 years
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 25, 2026, 01:02:41 AMI think its always a bit pointless talking about past Finals.
Mayo are so young they dont have real battle scars so it's not an issue.
Also parking back to older teams, Mayo were up against that awesome Dublin team who would beat the current Kerry side 9 times out of 10.
Yup absolute manure.
It all comes down to the young lads meeting the challenge. I think andy has to put all his chips on table in first half tbh, blitzkrieg from the get go. Look at how Kerry killed Donegal last year.
Its a coolish day so Kerry will be playing at higher tempo as well.
Bradys Off the Ball Live appearance is essential viewing, he is a good sport.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 25, 2026, 10:33:50 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on July 25, 2026, 01:02:41 AMI think its always a bit pointless talking about past Finals.
Mayo are so young they dont have real battle scars so it's not an issue.
Also parking back to older teams, Mayo were up against that awesome Dublin team who would beat the current Kerry side 9 times out of 10.
Yup absolute manure.
It all comes down to the young lads meeting the challenge. I think andy has to put all his chips on table in first half tbh, blitzkrieg from the get go. Look at how Kerry killed Donegal last year.
Its a coolish day so Kerry will be playing at higher tempo as well.
Bradys Off the Ball Live appearance is essential viewing, he is a good sport.
Almost 0 chance Mayo come out and blitz Kerry like that but even if they do go into a lead early you'd imagine Kerry have enough experience and calm heads there to get back into it. Really hope it isn't Kerry who blitz Mayo early
Does anyone anywhere think the Rhubarbs will actually win the game??
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2026, 11:28:09 AMDoes anyone anywhere think the Rhubarbs will actually win the game??
Just Diarmuid Connolly I think
Hope Mayo change back to the traditional red & green jerseys for going up the steps of the Hogan Stajd. It'll look better for posterity to see Sam being lifted in the county's traditional colours.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2026, 11:28:09 AMDoes anyone anywhere think the Rhubarbs will actually win the game??
Outside of Andy and the match day squad I don't think so.
Most people I have talked to this week hope we can win but hand on heart expect a Kerry win by 6 to 8 points with more than a few fearing a blowout early!
I know it's hard to judge game on game but Dublin missed and butchered so many chances that I would have more hope (a key word here!) that Mayo could do some damage.
Lads it's Kildare...but at that game in Newbridge it was amazing to see how quick they got kickouts away and how Joe O'Connor was sprinting out the field to hit his spot.
Would it be mad to have Kobe out around the middle from the start as an extra body and have him running from deep? I know he does float at stages anyway, but could work at the start.
Yeah. Cause Mayo havent kicked a bagful of wides in the past.
Of course Mayo have a good chance and could win too but i seen better Mayo teams (and this year Roscommon was the best team in Connacht and look what happened them) go flaky on it at this stage and until 1 Mayo team bucks the trend, its what people expect.
Kerry are rightly favourites but I give Mayo a good chance. I am using the Tyrone vs Mayo game as a measure. I put Tyrone and Mayo at a similar level, that game could have went either way and then Tyrone held their own against Kerry. That said, Kerry have a few injured lads with more game time, plus the Clifford factor, hard to look past Kerry doing back to back. Not many would begrudge the Mayo following an All Ireland title but sentiment means little. Mayo need a lot to go right for them and for Kerry to be a bit off. Mayo also need the officals not to be giving the 50/50 calls to Kerry. They have had their fair share of those decisions this year. Kerry by 4-6pts
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 25, 2026, 01:02:41 AMI think its always a bit pointless talking about past Finals.
Mayo are so young they dont have real battle scars so it's not an issue.
Also parking back to older teams, Mayo were up against that awesome Dublin team who would beat the current Kerry side 9 times out of 10.
If Mayo lose tomorrow the scars of the 2021 All-Ireland final defeat will no doubt be brought up as afterall Stephen Coen, Patrick Durcan; Mattie Ruane, Conor Loftus; Diarmuid O'Connor; Tommy Conroy, Aidan O'Shea, Ryan O'Donoghue, Enda Hession and Jordan Flynn played in that final.
That Dublin team was far from awesome in some of those finals, There to be beat and Mayo found ways to lose.
Tomorrow Mayo are up against a Kerry team who got hammered by Donegal twice this year who was far from convincing against Tyrone,Dublin in their last two games and two teams that will be playing in Division 2 next year. A number of the Kerry players are either off form or not up to speed after their injury lay off. Another opportunity to win the All-Ireland and for Mayo leave such excuses to the past.
If Mayo win this All ireland would there be a sort of anti climax after their 2012-2017 team regarded by many as the 2nd best team of all time came so close to winning it?
I'm sure they won't care but funny the way sport goes it's not necessarily the best team gets over the line.
Are the many in the room with us?
That Mayo 2012-17 were the moral winners at least twice in that period. Sometimes a moral victory is as good as an actual victory. You are recognised as champions but just without the silverware that comes with it.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 25, 2026, 05:54:44 PMThat Mayo 2012-17 were the moral winners at least twice in that period. Sometimes a moral victory is as good as an actual victory. You are recognised as champions but just without the silverware that comes with it.
Warra trophy 🏆
Geezer picked them anyway.
Any listen to that podcast, they had the answer wrong at the end to name the subs brought on in the final in 24- Soupy set up the goal, Oisin who kicked the last point, Jarly who had the ball at the whistle and Ross who won a ball after a dodgy pass by Rian in the last play- Geezer said Jason Duffy and was told he was wrong but Duffy was definitely on as Gleeson broke a kickout he went for
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 25, 2026, 05:30:37 PMAre the many in the room with us?
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Mayos 2 pt threat is well known at this stage it might invite Kerry to push out a touch...maybe Mayo will feint a few and go for jugular.
Couple early goals would set the cat among the pigeons.
As I said last year this group has makings of an all time great Kerry side that could go on a run.
Andy may have a curveball or two.
Kitchen sink first half I hope.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 25, 2026, 10:42:19 PMMayos 2 pt threat is well known at this stage it might invite Kerry to push out a touch...maybe Mayo will feint a few and go for jugular.
Couple early goals would set the cat among the pigeons.
As I said last year this group has makings of an all time great Kerry side that could go on a run.
Andy may have a curveball or two.
Kitchen sink first half I hope.
I don't know if they're up there as an all time top team, some brilliant players and obviously Clifford as good as theres ever been but they really haven't overly impressed this year and to be brutally honest there isn't a whole pile of competition out there at the minute- Galway seem to have gone backwards, Dublin obviously have a kick in them but not a patch on their great side, traditional big teams like Cork and Meath are maybe improving but not at the top level yet, in Ulster who knows whats gone wrong with Donegal, looked fantastic vs Kerry twice this year and lost to teams you'd expect them to beat, Tyrone gave Kerry their fill of it but are probably one for the future, Armagh obviously don't have that huge pedigree and with the turnover of players from 2024 will do well to get close to Kerry.
That leaves Mayo- no one looked twice at them early in the year but favourable draw and some magic forwards has them in a final. Love to see them do it but just not sure how they can.
Jacko was v worried against Dublin, the tension must be huge knowing the team isnt firing and at full strength. Jim Gavin made this comment
"They're doing a jig on the pitch... If that was McGeeney there would have been action taken"
I will not be that surprised if Mayo win, Tyrone got a run on Kerry in 1st half and failed to fully capitalise.
Kerry could easily have been knocked out by a Dublin side on its last legs plus the "luck".
Croker & the rules suits these lads, Karma could come calling for the Kingdom.
Mayo by 7
All the best to Mayo today. Kerry are obviously a good team but as per usual in Ireland people lose the run of themselves over them. If Mayo had lost the League final by 13 points, lost a Championship match by 10 points earlier in the summer by 10, and subsequently enjoyed large slices of fortune to come through the quarters and semis, would they be seen as huge favourites? Of course not. Kerry are good, but they're aren't anywhere near unbeatable.
And as ever when Mayo are involved in a big match, I'll be thinking of our old friend Farrandeelin. Hopefully this is finally the day.
R.I.P Farrandeelin indeed.
Mayowestros did lose a home Championship game by 10 points and did get some handy draws and did get lucky with dodgy refereeing decisions v Meath.
Picture of Mayo.fans from 1951
https://x.com/radiomidwest/status/2081114053754175979
Well indeed Ross but that is reflected in the narrative around them, which is never the case with the other lot!
Apparently Tom Sullivan in for Diarmuid O'Connor due to injury.
Quote from: craicwas90 on July 26, 2026, 12:57:17 PMApparently Tom Sullivan in for Diarmuid O'Connor due to injury.
That's a massive call if true- O'Sullivan obviously good enough to start but played no ball all year.
I can't shake the feeling of Mayo are going to turn up here. It might not be enough and they could lose anyway but I think they'll give a good account of themselves.
Quote from: craicwas90 on July 26, 2026, 12:57:17 PMApparently Tom Sullivan in for Diarmuid O'Connor due to injury.
Ill wait to see when whistles blown.
Starting a guy who has played nothing would be borderline madness.
For anyone wondering if this final is a draw today, hasn't been a drawn Senior football final since 2019 Kerry v Dublin
If the two teams are level after 70 minutes today then there will be extra time, if level after extra time a replay will be played on August 8th.
If the replay ends in a draw, then there will be another 20 minutes of extra time.
Should the two teams be unable to be separated after that, then the All-Ireland final will go to a penalty shoot-out for the first time in history. Personally I hope All-Ireland final is never won or lost in that manner
Quote from: craicwas90 on July 26, 2026, 12:57:17 PMApparently Tom Sullivan in for Diarmuid O'Connor due to injury.
Kerry to move away from their policy of starting four natural midfielders would be a surprise.
The two Clifford lads from 26 years ago. How Mayo mark them today will go along way to deciding the outcome of this game.
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John Fogarty
"Cillian Trant replaces Diarmuid O'Connor in Kerry squad. John McMonagle for Stephen Coen in Mayo squad"
Big loss for both teams. Coen will be gutted.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 26, 2026, 02:11:59 PMJohn Fogarty
"Cillian Trant replaces Diarmuid O'Connor in Kerry squad. John McMonagle for Stephen Coen in Mayo squad"
Big loss for both teams. Coen will be gutted.
First time ever a Jack O'Connor published All-Ireland final team won't start as selected, must have been a very recent injury and big blow considering he was one of Kerrys best players v Dublin.
Tom O'Sullivan confirmed in for Kerry.
Mayo Kerry change: Tom O'Sullivan in for Diarmuid O'Connor.
Mayo changes: Paul Towey and Diarmuid O'Connor in for Stephen Coen and Conor Loftus.
Would love this game to still be alive at half time
Quote from: An Watcher on July 26, 2026, 02:52:35 PMWould love this game to still be alive at half time
Aren't we told that every game is alive throughout with the new rules?
Ah shite. Mayo win toss play hill first...big enough gamble
Knowing Mayo's luck the wind will chsnge at half time.
Who was the Kerry player being a bit extra during the team handshakes?
Quote from: Nanderson on July 26, 2026, 03:25:04 PMWho was the Kerry player being a bit extra during the team handshakes?
G O Sullivan lol
A lot of nerves/early mistakes.
Kerry with the good start 0-3 to no score. Mayos first score after 7 minutes.
Ominous start here. Hope Mayo can get a score quickly to settle themselves and make a good game of this. They have the forwards to rack up a score but can't let the game get away from them
Mayo are having to work very hard to turn down these scoring chances.
Mayo being wasteful like Tyrone and Dublin were.
A wee bit of composure required from Mayo.
What the fk are they at on 2pts into Hill? Do they not read the Irish News?
Mayo just not good enough
Trademark. The dummy bounce.
Marking Clifford 1 on 1 is Madness!! Not marking O'Shea great either.
Goal had to be David Clifford. 1-4 to 0-1 after 15 minutes.
Game over alreday fs.
That's it for another year.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 26, 2026, 03:47:21 PMWhat the fk are they at on 2pts into Hill? Do they not read the Irish News?
There was a stat on the rafio earlier that there are 2.5 times as many 2 pointers into the Davin end as the Hill.
Love island would be better entertainment lol
Ooof that's a killer. Just when it had looked like Mayo were getting a handle on the game, but they couldn't add more scores - then that happens.
They'll have the shooting advantage for the 2nd half, but another 20 minutes before that and it could be a right gap at that stage going by this
The Mayo man fouling him all the time there, Ref not gonna blow his whistle.
Paul Murphy allowed to hold onto the ball as long as he wants it seems
Murphy lucky enough on both occasions there.
After 20 minutes Kerry 1-5 Mayo 0-3.
Struggling to remember a game this year where Kerry didn't get all the soft (and just plain wrong) decisions thier way.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2026, 03:53:28 PMStruggling to remember a game this year where Kerry didn't get all the soft (and just plain wrong) decisions thier way.
Paul Murphy pulls man down to ground. Kerry free. Laughable at this stage.
Free out to Mayo there a push, Ref not blowing obvious minor frees.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 03:52:05 PMPaul Murphy allowed to hold onto the ball as long as he wants it seems
And mans arm.
Mayo killing themselves. Shocking strategy up front, they should be getting into the D
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 26, 2026, 03:53:59 PMQuote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2026, 03:53:28 PMStruggling to remember a game this year where Kerry didn't get all the soft (and just plain wrong) decisions thier way.
Paul Murphy pulls man down to ground. Kerry free. Laughable at this stage.
McNally a joke
Murphy never pulled the man to the ground, Ryan was on top of him with the Ball long gone and then Murphy grabbed onto him.
I thought the hurling final was bad, this is worse.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2026, 03:53:28 PMStruggling to remember a game this year where Kerry didn't get all the soft (and just plain wrong) decisions thier way.
Any year you mean
Ryan O'Donoghue with a two pointer. 1-6 to 0-5.
Another two pointer 1-6 to 0-6 game on.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 03:55:37 PMMurphy never pulled the man to the ground, Ryan was on top of him with the Ball long gone and then Murphy grabbed onto him.
Ah he only grabbed onto him which of course is a legal tackle.
Mayo strategy and execution all over the place although hanging in there.
Kerry though don't even have to buy a free as they are being handed them. The dragging down of the tackler by locking in their arm should be a black card offence as it's no different than a tackler dragging down the ball carrier.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2026, 03:57:49 PMRyan O'Donoghue with a two pointer. 1-6 to 0-5.
Mayo need to get him on the ball as much as is possible.
Foul on Paudie from the kickout there not given. Any whiny Tyrone or Armagh twats care to comment?
The Mayo man was on him, it was a free.
Great response from Mayo here
Quote from: gallsman on July 26, 2026, 03:59:16 PMFoul on Paudie from the kickout there not given. Any whiny Tyrone or Armagh twats care to comment?
Rent free.
Dylan Casey boxed in the face there with a closed fist/forearm. But he's not Michael Murphy so lads here won't care.
At least Mayo are getting stuck into them.
Kerry leaving them in it will be annoyed
Sean O'Shea and David Clifford with missed two pointer frees in this match now. Another point for Mayo, 1-6 to 0-8.
Christ Niblock is bad live.
O'Shea for yrs took them on the ground, never does anymore!
Quote from: gallsman on July 26, 2026, 04:05:51 PMChrist Niblock is bad live.
Everything is class. The basic skills are wonderful.
Shrewd by Breen there he saw possible goal. Mayo need to hold their nerve doing a lot right
Probably should have been a Kerry free out before Mayo got that free. 1-7 to 0-9 after 32 minutes.
Level game now.
Half-time Kerry 1-8 Mayo 0-10
Good resilience from Mayo but they'll need more in play from Kobe and Beirne.
Niblock way too dramatic!
He screams down the microphone, and does so long before the climax of a phase of play.
Would like to see that last Mayo point from another angle.
Keepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
Are the seagulls on holiday? They're missing a good match.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:11:57 PMKeepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
You can "challenge" but not tackle.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:11:57 PMKeepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
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Is it not a myth that keeper can't be tackled in small square?
Enjoyable game, Mayo did very well after going so far behind and it's there for them.
Ref letting it go rightly, would need to be cuter for the Kerry men grabbing the tacklers arm and falling to the ground though.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:11:57 PMKeepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
Charging by defender/keeper in small square = penalty.
Can't remember any keeper ever being done for that though.
Have to give Mayo serious credit, thought they were really up against it after the goal, but they responded very well. Both sides missed some scoreable points but Mayo would have to be very happy with that given they'll be kicking into Canal End 2nd half
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 26, 2026, 04:14:05 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:11:57 PMKeepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
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Is it not a myth that keeper can't be tackled in small square?
Was he not out of the square then?
Quote from: gallsman on July 26, 2026, 04:03:05 PMDylan Casey boxed in the face there with a closed fist/forearm. But he's not Michael Murphy so lads here won't care.
Only time DC has been seen or mentioned.
Terrific response from Mayo. Set up for a cracking 2nd half.
Mayo will surely get tired from their work rate eventually and Kerry will pick them off down the home strait.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2026, 04:15:24 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:11:57 PMKeepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
Charging by defender/keeper in small square = penalty.
Can't remember any keeper ever being done for that though.
Cheers. Thought it would be and like you say never saw it given. Just another rule ignored by refs
The keeper is like any other player with respect to the tackle. The only exception is that you can't shoulder charge the keeper inside the small square. They tend to get an easy run from referees though.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:17:25 PMQuote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2026, 04:15:24 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on July 26, 2026, 04:11:57 PMKeepers allowed to put head down and charge at a player? Whats the rule on it if its inside the small rectangle does anyone know
Charging by defender/keeper in small square = penalty.
Can't remember any keeper ever being done for that though.
Cheers. Thought it would be and like you say never saw it given. Just another rule ignored by refs
Charging by defender/keeper in either the big or small square is a penalty tbf
Mayo better team after first 15. Kerry cant deal with their high press.
Expect Mayo to win by 3 or 4.
Another rule, u just after asking earlier if u can tackle the Keeper in the small square.
Mayo's All-Ireland final to lose now that they will be playing into canal scoring end.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 26, 2026, 04:16:45 PMMayo will surely get tired from their work rate eventually and Kerry will pick them off down the home strait.
Yeah thats maybe the worry. Been fantastic so far
Why does David Clifford always get away with a push in the face on opponent when he has the ball. Equivalent of Murphy and his closed fist tackle.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 26, 2026, 04:19:47 PMMayo's All-Ireland final to lose now that they will be playing into canal scoring end.
Yeah it's there for them if they want it now.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 26, 2026, 04:18:54 PMMayo better team after first 15. Kerry cant deal with their high press.
Kerry the better team for the opening 24 minutes and leading 1-6 to 0-3
Mayo the better team in the last 11 minutes of the half and outscoring Kerry 0-7 to 0-2.
McNally has been generous with some of the Mayo tackling on the high press.
Casey must took a bad rap, but may be out again 2nd half.
Did David Clifford get a belt at the end too or accidental?
Quote from: bennydorano on July 26, 2026, 04:16:33 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 26, 2026, 04:03:05 PMDylan Casey boxed in the face there with a closed fist/forearm. But he's not Michael Murphy so lads here won't care.
Only time DC has been seen or mentioned.
Kicked the first score of the match and has outscored Kobe tbf to him.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 04:27:16 PMCasey must took a bad rap, but may be out again 2nd half.
yeah was caught in face with a tackle but would imagine he's ok to continue.
Didn't show what happened Clifford at the end did it?
Thought a very familiar story was unfolding there for a while, but Mayo dug their way back into it.
Kerry still finding the bread-and-butter scoring opportunities far easier to come by, though, and the game will only open up further for them as it goes on.
Mayo in with a shout but if it's tight and they desperately need scores in the last knockings, will they have the stuff to land them? Here's hoping.
The last titles for each of the participants today were 2025 Kerry and 1951 Mayo.
Think Kerry will buck up their ideas this half..
Be interesting if Mayo continue with the two pointer opportunities again
2 bounces on that point?
Big O'Brien away off, Kerrys size threat more or less gone now.
Mayo lead, the start to the 2nd half they wanted.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 04:31:55 PM2 bounces on that point?
Yeah was and not first double hop in game.
Goal for Mayo they lead by 4.
Great goal!
Terrific goal.
Kerry silly, should be long ball in to Clifford all day
Holy shit! Mayo flying
What a goal! O'Donoghue about 8 steps coming about but about time Kerry where on the wrong end
Has Dylan Geaney touched it?
After 45 minutes Mayo 1-14 Kerry 1-9.
Mayo need to keep the head for the next ten minutes. That last effort from Jordan Flynn was very poor.
Super score from Carney.
Lol Niblock is utterly handless.
Aw thats a lovely 2 pointer. Class.
Quote from: gallsman on July 26, 2026, 04:28:12 PMQuote from: bennydorano on July 26, 2026, 04:16:33 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 26, 2026, 04:03:05 PMDylan Casey boxed in the face there with a closed fist/forearm. But he's not Michael Murphy so lads here won't care.
Only time DC has been seen or mentioned.
Kicked the first score of the match and has outscored Kobe tbf to him.
Got my DC & DG mixed up
Mayo need to kill them in next ten mins
Mayo missed a couple opportunities for more scores after the goal, but that 2 pointer was a well needed boost to build that lead. Kerry just haven't responded well at all. Plenty of time to go, but Mayo have this if they can just keep their heads and play their own game
The work O'Donoghue is getting through is absurd.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 26, 2026, 04:41:49 PMLol Niblock is utterly handless.
O'Se on rte fairly bitter here.
Kerry getting killed on their own kick out who seen that before the game?
Three chances in a row missed by Mayo...
Joe O'Connor having a nightmare
After 50 minutes Mayo 1-14 Kerry 1-11.
Mayo need to be tagging on a few more scores in this spell. They're well on top but aren't making it count. Clifford et al will have another kick in them you'd imagine, plenty of time to go
Paidi Clifford is usually running games by this stage.
Mayo kicking too many wides
Frustrating. Kobe and Flynn having stinkers kicking. Get the ball to Beirne
If Mayo don't see this out, they'll be rewatching this spell and be absolutely kicking themselves. They should have another 3-4 points easily
Mayo kicking this away
Paudie Clifford the best Kerry player this year. David might do the scoring but this Kerry team would be lost without Paudie
Mayo had 2 wides all games and now 5 more wides in less thann 10mins.
Thats a bad shot there from Mayo.
Fatal for Mayo...why is DOC shooting? Work a simple score basic shit
Does P Murphy just run into tackles 1 after another.
Mayo had them on the ropes.
Unreal save from Murphy there.
Not that Niblock saw it.
After 55 minutes Mayo 1-15 Kerry 1-13
Well Keeper did take it face on.
Holy moses. Kerry save with face!
Lads kerry should have conceded 2 and havent conceded goals since Donegal.
I am nervous watching this. Imagine being from mayo watching it.
Thought O'Donoghue was going to lose it with the men on his back, but he made the perfect pass and only for a big save it was a goal for Kobe
Niblock is some gas man. Credited Kobe with a 2 pointer earlier he was nowhere near, then tried to take a point away from him there ;D
Ref is doing well
Has Clifford even scored a free? Still 1.04.
Paudie having a blinder.. the tee we I of them should be man marked in every game, easier said than done
That's at least the third really wayward handpass from Kerry and White has two of them. Uncharacteristically sloppy.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2026, 04:54:24 PMI am nervous watching this. Imagine being from mayo watching it.
Probably why the crowd is relatively quiet. Squeaky bum time. Massive mindset challenge to Mayo if/when Kerry draw level.
12 minutes to play Mayo 1-17 Kerry 1-14
Can someone explain that rule? How can you get off the ball with 5 men standing over you not letting you get up?
Mayo rattling off bad wides!
Good response again by Mayo just as it looked like Kerry may be about to draw level. Right finish on the cards here. Can they finally do it...
Dont understand the free there either, he didnt touch it on the ground, probably a throw up ball if anything.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 04:59:22 PMMayo rattling off bad wides!
Senseless stuff. They have to time to work it and take a higher percentage kick and run the clock down
Conroy made a few poor decisions in the second half, the gameplan should be just to work it to their full forward line to shoot - or at this stage of the game, eat up the clock a bit more
Genuinely didn't realise Seanie O'Shea was still on the pitch.
Big one there after a no of misses.
Having said that a 2 pointer is great when it lands ;D
Ryan O'Donoghue two pointer they lead by 5 a free in now. Mayo are starting to believe!
Oh look when the pressure is on Clifford vanishes like a fart in the wind.
Expert foul by Foley
It's now or never for mayo
The Kerry men who were all injured earlier in the year faded out or on the bench. White, O'Sullivan, O'Shea
Christ almighty, is that it! I was thinking they should hold onto the ball a bit more, but the balls on O'Donoghue to take that on. Hard to see Kerry get back into this unless Mayo implode
Agree with Mansy, that's the POTY there for sure
Jaysus Kerry are properly desperate now turning to Burns.
How that not in The net.
Mayo have it!
Mayo are determined to be headless to the end here ;D that was very poor from Ruane.
And thats why hes the player he is!
Jaysus what are they at now, Mayo need it to be nervy to the end it seems
Jack O'Connor OUT.
Two pointer for Kerry. 3 points in it with 5 minutes left.
2 points in it with 3 minutes left.
The chaos of Mayo
2 men on D Clifford now, somebody else have to score
Kerry are scared. Looking to Clifford to save them.
Christ, if Mayo don't see it out from being 5 up with 8 minutes left, how would you recover from that... Nevermind the goal chance that was hit off the bar right after.
There is an ominous feeling of more heartache coming for Mayo. They need to keep their heads.
Kerry should took a point then contested a kick out!
Nobody else take on the shot except Clifford.
Kerry had 3 on 2 there if Paudie turned and went at them.
Full time Mayo 1-20 Kerry 1-17. Mayo All-Ireland champions again after such a long wait. Enjoy the celebrations all posters on here.
The curse is over.
Fair play mayo. They desperately tried to throw out away a few times in the forwards but that was phenomenal.
Magic Mayo. Delighted for them.
Well lads...there ya go!
Deserved to win by 7
Long time coming there, should done it bck in 1996 against Meath. Did say they had a good chance to win it.
Brilliant
Christ almighty.... The way that game was going I really didn't think they'd see it out
Fair play lads, what a journey it's been for that county
Sick....
Better team won, great performance.
Congrats to everyone from County Mayo.
The curse was real after all!
Unreal, they showed some balls when it looked like the tide had turned
Fantastic
Unbelievable. Enjoy it lads well done.
Savage work rate for 70 mins!
With the possible exception of their neighbours in Connacht, you'd have to have a heart of stone to not feel at least a bit of happiness for Mayo, what a long road it's been for them
Bit like Spain last week, everybody happy Mayo got their win at last.
Fair play to them. They deserve every celebratory pint. It will be some time in Mayo.
What a game!
They absolutely deserved it. It wasn't pretty at times but they wore their heart on their sleeve and never stopped working.
Thought O'Donoghue was immense all over the pitch.
Andy Fking Moran!
This is magical.
Beirne and Kobe came into it and O'Donoghue and Jack Carney were phenomenal.
Too many Kerry players were snuffed out or snuffed out at the right time.
Congratulations Mayo, great display
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 26, 2026, 05:15:05 PMSavage work rate for 70 mins!
100%. I thought they might pay for it towards the end, but they kept it going. Mighty effort.
Absolutely delighted for Mayo
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 05:15:49 PMBit like Spain last week, everybody happy Mayo got there win at last.
*their. But you are correct ;D
Some scenes. The most popular win in manys a year.
You'd have to be a hard hearted Kerry die hard not to be happy for Mayo.
Class to see, worthy winners, much better team on the day.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 26, 2026, 04:25:57 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 26, 2026, 04:19:47 PMMayo's All-Ireland final to lose now that they will be playing into canal scoring end.
Yeah it's there for them if they want it now.
And certainly wanted it more than Kerry.
Finally won and all past excuses should be buried for good now. Pitch celebration should be allowed with Mayo winning it.
As for Kerry good enough for them have won enough already and the arrogance from all of the Kerry heads before this final was something else.
Allianz got a few boos there?
Jarlath will still be talking by next years final
You cant just turn on top tier performances. Jacko was quietly worried. O Connor a big blow.
The omens were there for Mayo.
Now Jarlath will bask for a bit.
Well done Mayo. Stood up when it counted. Didn't drop the head at missed points, hitting crossbars or Kerry putting the squeeze on.
Jesus lad, just present the cup
Congratulations to all our Mayo posters. Fantastic
No skin in the game (as per every year lol) but that was emotional
Brilliant performance of working hard on the ball.
The ref was very good also
Jaysus that's fantastic.
Well done Mayo.
Just seeing what it means for Mayo folk to see this day is quite emotional actually
Well done Mayo. Definitely the better team.
Delighted for Mayo ....Enjoy all the celebrations you deserve it ❤️💚
Thinkimg of Muppet and Farrandeelin. I.thought it would happen in 2012.
I hope to fvck they avoid Foxford on the way home
Wonderful! I feared for them in those early stages with some of the decision making but they came through it and were very deserving winners. Indeed, the 3 point margin flattered Kerry.
Congratulations to all from Mayo - it was a privilege to see you get that All Ireland. I must say that Mayo have handled so many crushing disappointments with grace and class. Nobody is as deserving of this title. And I mentioned Farrandeelin before the game - thinking of himself and all the Mayo folk who didn't see this day. They would be immensely proud of that team.
The way Beirne just went for it near end was pure class. Point he took off Joe O Connor incredible.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 26, 2026, 04:18:54 PMMayo better team after first 15. Kerry cant deal with their high press.
Expect Mayo to win by 3 or 4.
Got this one bang on again.
Put some respect on my name 😅.
Any chance that curse passes to Kerry now?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 20, 2026, 10:41:21 PMThink Mayo give Kerry massive trouble this weekend.
If Mayo can forget their record in finals for the next week they have a massive chance on Sunday.
No baggage around this team.
Fancied Mayo from the start.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 05:35:44 PMAny chance that curse passes to Kerry now?
IT FOLLOWS 🤣
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 05:35:44 PMAny chance that curse passes to Kerry now?
Kerry were obviously afraid of the no 13 curse
Kobe got alot of the spotlight due to his story, the AFL move, and in fairness he was very good and over the championship he popped up with some huge moments - but Beirne is the YPOTY for me
Fvckin insane that the terms of the curse played out
And they wore white like 1951
That was some spectacle for an All Ireland final. A brilliant game. Well done to Mayo who were full value for the win- and that was after the first 15 mins were it looked like it might get away from them early doors.
Delighted for Mayo!
Quote from: whitey on July 26, 2026, 05:40:00 PMFvckin insane that the terms of the curse played out
And they wore white like 1951
Will they ever wear green and red again?
The black and white of Mayo doesn't have the same ring to it
Quote from: whitey on July 26, 2026, 05:40:00 PMFvckin insane that the terms of the curse played out
And they wore white like 1951
And first final since last player died?
I was invested in that Mayo win almost as much as I would have been had it been my own county. It was nervier than it needed to be but with all the psychological baggage, that was understandable. For once the gods were with them.
It be McDonald, not overly starring today but he the YPOFY
Quote from: thewobbler on July 21, 2026, 02:25:04 PMWhy Mayo can win. Plenty of reasons. They've a goalkeeper who makes the game look easy. They've a nice balance of size and athleticism in defence. They've developed a central player - McHugh - who seems to understand now he's not a county level midfielder but is a county level spoiler of athletic players. Their midfield is functional ie they are honest, hard working spoilers. They've got a highest class wing forward in Flynn. They've got pacy, ball winning finishers up front. Their star player ROD has finally learned how to handle Croke Park. They've got serious cover on their bench in pretty much every position. They've got the perfect age profile to win Sam, with most of the team seasoned D1 footballers. They've got a manager who so far has shown he's not sentimental, but same manager still can throw a buffalo into FF if needed. But most of all, they're neither predictable nor reliant on any particular type of football or any single player.
Why Mayo could get smashed to bits. Nothing to do with ability, composure, experience. This boils down to two sides of a mental equation. One being that Mayo in AI finals usually find some brand new way to make their lives more difficult than needs be, especially in the first half. The other being that it's Kerry they're up against, and they'll smell a mismatch before anyone notices, and exploit it before anyone can change it up.
I genuinely believe that if Ruane and/or DOC are brought into the Mayo team as WHBs, then they'll be able to weather any early storm / limit Kerry's ability to win 10 kickouts in a row and end the game while their big men are still full of running. That move would allow McBrien to go to FB on O'Shea or Geaney, Callinan or Hession to sweep / take turns at Paudie, and leave McHugh to accept that keeping David Clifford to 1.04 or 1.06 from play, means Mayo will likely win.
The first half is more important than the second half this weekend.
Seeing as I'm right about once every two years I'm going to gloat on this one.
What a day out.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 26, 2026, 05:44:32 PMQuote from: whitey on July 26, 2026, 05:40:00 PMFvckin insane that the terms of the curse played out
And they wore white like 1951
And first final since last player died?
Yes
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 23, 2026, 10:32:41 AMWould Mayo fear the Dubs? Or kerry with a half fit David?
People are right to say Kerry havent hit the heights but they are leaving it long enough. You dont magically turn form on, even though this particular side can get out of jail via individual brilliance.
I would give Mayo a bigger chance than most. Its rare to see Kerry folk be so openly confident of victory.
The quick turnaround is a gift but have to feel this could be won on the sideline as much as anything.
Andy gambled and it paid off just about. In a less pressurised game Mayo would have won by 6-8
Fantastic win for Mayo, hard not to get swept away in the emotion for them seeing how long they've battled and how close they've been over the years.
Hope they enjoy their celebrations, well deserved.
That was as good a final as I've seen. A great way to end a great year of football.
Well done Mayo. Great Final.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 05:45:19 PMIt be McDonald, not overly starring today but he the YPOFY
Nah it's Beirne. Did more damage throughout the campaign. Both of them showed up today after ropey starts
Quote from: square_ball on July 26, 2026, 05:50:38 PMThat was as good a final as I've seen. A great way to end a great year of football.
One of sport's greatest hoodoos getting consigned to history, to trigger an emotional outpouring the likes of which we've never seen...a truly fitting bookend for a vintage championship season.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 26, 2026, 05:44:49 PMI was invested in that Mayo win almost as much as I would have been had it been my own county. It was nervier than it needed to be but with all the psychological baggage, that was understandable. For once the gods were with them.
Agree 100%
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 05:45:19 PMIt be McDonald, not overly starring today but he the YPOFY
They'll be breaking their neck to give it to Kobe
Rayn O'D has to be MOTM and in the running for POTY
Congratulations to all the Mayo lads on here. Thoroughly deserved. Much the better team on the day. Enjoy the celebrations 🏆
Quote from: Schkite on July 26, 2026, 05:39:19 PMKobe got alot of the spotlight due to his story, the AFL move, and in fairness he was very good and over the championship he popped up with some huge moments - but Beirne is the YPOTY for me
Agreed.
R O'D player of the year. Do all 3 get All stars?
Quote from: bennydorano on July 26, 2026, 05:56:21 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 05:45:19 PMIt be McDonald, not overly starring today but he the YPOFY
They'll be breaking their neck to give it to Kobe
Rayn O'D has to be MOTM and in the running for POTY
I'd be amazed if anyone got POTY ahead of O'Donoghue
All second half I was bricking it.
Well done. Their pain was known to all from 1989 onwards. Well done.
After the rain comes the sunshine..
Well done Mayo. Enjoy the celebrations over the next few months. Very well deserved.
Loved their bravery through the whole game. Kick and miss, then go again. Worked so hard and pressed up the pitch.
Great speech by Coyne too. Not big into speeches but on an occasion like that, I had no issues.
Quote from: marty34 on July 26, 2026, 06:05:32 PMAfter the rain comes the sunshine..
Well done Mayo. Enjoy the celebrations over the next few months. Very well deserved.
Loved their bravery through the whole game. Kick and miss, then go again. Worked so hard and pressed up the pitch.
Great speech by Coyne too. Not big into speeches but on an occasion like that, I had no issues.
Nobody will begrudge them that speech after 75 years. Fair play to Burns too as he kept it short (for him) and sweet.
Knives out for Jacko youd imagine. Kerry fill the togs when they see swarms of white jerseys
Theyve been #Tallied
Long wait finally over doesn't matter now but a game/final Mayo should have could have won more comfortably. Team thar defends best won All-Ireland final and Mayos ability to turn over the ball a key trait throughout this campaign, the work rate and wanting it more the big difference.
A perfect send off for Kobe McDonald after that today he might get homesick in Australia?
Thinking of forner posters on here who died in recent years, a shame they aren't around to have seen that green and red day.
Quote from: Schkite on July 26, 2026, 05:59:31 PMQuote from: bennydorano on July 26, 2026, 05:56:21 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 26, 2026, 05:45:19 PMIt be McDonald, not overly starring today but he the YPOFY
They'll be breaking their neck to give it to Kobe
Rayn O'D has to be MOTM and in the running for POTY
I'd be amazed if anyone got POTY ahead of O'Donoghue
O'Donoghue excellent again today, probably the hardest working player in the game at the moment and covers serious milage around the pitch. I agree MOTM today and could well win POTY also.
Now that it's sunk in its not that bad.
Hopefully certain elements among the Mayos will have a bit more class than normal on their way through Co Roscommon tomorrow.
Enoch Burke will be the only man in Mayo to turn up to work tomorrow.
H/T Twitter
Fair Play Mayo and enjoy the day to all the fans. That was such emotional stuff, fantastic to see the joy.
Hession unlucky not to nab a 2ptr but a beast all year for them.
Lot of teams will feel encouraged.
Almost anti climactic , mayo forced so many errors and mistakes. The old ravenous hunger matters and trying to go back to back[for the 40th] with the kerry expectation is brutal pressure.
It doesn't feel like Mayo won it because of the white jerseys.
I've never been to Mayo but my great grandmother was from west Mayo, on the Atlantic coast south of Geesala. She met her husband when in USA and moved to south Derry.
Delighted for Mayo. The young Mayo players had no fear and got stuck in from the start. Delighted. Kerry wouldn't begrudge them this one after all the heart break
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 26, 2026, 06:41:08 PM.
Lot of teams will feel encouraged.
This Kerry team is not a patch on the 2000s version, nor Tyrone of the same vintage, nor Dublin of the 2010s.
Quote from: grounded on July 26, 2026, 06:58:29 PMKerry wouldn't begrudge them this one after all the heart break
I heard Jarleth Burns say something similar in his speech.
I'm not sure it is a matter of begrudging or otherwise, but I think its easy for a neutral, or somebody with no skin in the game to take that view. I doubt too many Kerry men will be too effusive over it.
Congratulations Mayo. Absolutely INSANE work-rate throughout. Took some poor decisions at crucial times which left them not cantering home by 7 or 8 points, and I thought their goose was cooked with Clifford 2 pointer effort at the end, but it all added to the drama. And it was incredible drama!
A final to be rewatched again by the neutrals. Can only imagine how many times it will be relived out west.
Just a word on Jack O'Connor. A class act.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2026, 06:35:47 PMNow that it's sunk in its not that bad.
Hopefully certain elements among the Mayos will have a bit more class than normal on their way through Co Roscommon tomorrow.
Hopefully you're not too put out.
Class indeed ::)
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on July 26, 2026, 07:01:03 PMQuote from: grounded on July 26, 2026, 06:58:29 PMKerry wouldn't begrudge them this one after all the heart break
I heard Jarleth Burns say something similar in his speech.
I'm not sure it is a matter of begrudging or otherwise, but I think its easy for a neutral, or somebody with no skin in the game to take that view. I doubt too many Kerry men will be too effusive over it.
Glad Jarlath decided not to grandstand on mayo's greatest day! 🙄
Congratulations Mayo and the Mayo posters on here. Well deserved and a long time coming.
Quote from: jb77 on July 26, 2026, 03:26:31 PMQuote from: Nanderson on July 26, 2026, 03:25:04 PMWho was the Kerry player being a bit extra during the team handshakes?
G O Sullivan lol
Absolute tosser. Good to see him on the losing side today. Well done Mayo had a good feeling about them all week but that was some performance. The hunger and doggedness from their forward line in the press was unbelievable Kerry couldn't live with it. Can't wait to watch it back incredible scenes for them, well deserved after years of knocking on the door
Too early to break it down but do yourselves a favour and listen to this...would bring a tear to a stone...Martin Carney making noises only dogs could hear he's that high pitched and emotional.
https://x.com/i/status/2081422845989507419
Congrats to Mayo will live long in the memory. Be very very few in the country will begrudge them that today. Great scenes all round 🤝
Tommy Conroy nailing the last score *chefs kiss* delighted for him. Nice for the old guard
The stats breakdown will be fascinating. Kerry just looked to David.
Why did Jack put on Burns and start Tom? Hes gonna get crucified as is the norm but weird enough calls.
They keep on coming...
https://x.com/i/status/2081421723321393627
Quote from: TyroneTam on July 26, 2026, 07:34:38 PMToo early to break it down but do yourselves a favour and listen to this...would bring a tear to a stone...Martin Carney making noises only dogs could hear he's that high pitched and emotional.
https://x.com/i/status/2081422845989507419
Think only dogs could hear him at the end 🤣
Class stuff
Hope O'Donoghue gets footballer of the year, Clifford a class act obviously but O'Donoghue does the dirty work far better while still stepping up with the big scores- the difference today was attitude and workrate, no better example than those two, Clifford is one lazy fecker
Congrats to all the Mayo lads on here. Great to see and fully deserved!
Whats lazy about him, he told to stay close to nets at all times, only wish we had him.
Just home from the game. A privilege to be there, some atmosphere. Congratulations Mayo, enjoy the celebrations.
Congrats to Mayo, the Mayo posters here, and those we sadly lost like Lars and Farrandeelin. Mayo supporters always said they'd eventually win when it was least expected and so it came to be. They play a refreshing brand of football based on high press (way too risky for most conservative managers) and an abundance of pace and youthful energy. These lads are football immortals now like the men of 1950/51. May they enjoy a year on the beer. Hard luck to Kerry. Number 40 waits but no doubt will arrive soon enough.
Congratulations to all the Mayo posters in here. Worthy winners today and played a great brand of open football, reflecting Andy Moran's outlook - Beirne and McDonald both said "we're just told to go out and enjoy ourselves".
Surprised Kerry didn't seem to learn more about Mayo from the Louth game. From what I saw Kerry were gracious losers.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 07:45:26 PMHope O'Donoghue gets footballer of the year, Clifford a class act obviously but O'Donoghue does the dirty work far better while still stepping up with the big scores- the difference today was attitude and workrate, no better example than those two, Clifford is one lazy fecker
You haven't a notion to be fair
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 07:45:26 PMHope O'Donoghue gets footballer of the year, Clifford a class act obviously but O'Donoghue does the dirty work far better while still stepping up with the big scores- the difference today was attitude and workrate, no better example than those two, Clifford is one lazy fecker
I've seen some shit talked on this board the past while but this could be the worst yet.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 07:45:26 PMthe difference today was attitude and workrate, no better example than those two, Clifford is one lazy fecker
You talk so much shit it's hard to single out individual dreadful takes but "David Clifford is lazy" is a really special one.
Congrats Mayo! Saw some of the Mayo (maternal) side of my family today after game and they were all buzzing! I've had plenty of Mayo-inflicted sickeners in recent years as a Donegal man, but could take nothing but pleasure from the way they tore into Kerry and wrested that match from them after an iffy, familiar start.
Enjoy it lads! Thoroughly deserved!
Quote from: square_ball on July 26, 2026, 09:06:25 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 07:45:26 PMHope O'Donoghue gets footballer of the year, Clifford a class act obviously but O'Donoghue does the dirty work far better while still stepping up with the big scores- the difference today was attitude and workrate, no better example than those two, Clifford is one lazy fecker
I've seen some shit talked on this board the past while but this could be the worst yet.
Ok. Watch him not track back or press when he loses the ball. He's the best I've ever seen but look at the difference in workrate from forwards off the ball there today.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2026, 06:35:47 PMNow that it's sunk in its not that bad.
Hopefully certain elements among the Mayos will have a bit more class than normal on their way through Co Roscommon tomorrow.
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Absolutely delighted for the people of Mayo. Theyve had years of heartache and today makes it all worthwhile. Celebrate it well folks amd bask in the glory. There was no luck needed today. The best team won and Mayo are kings of Ireland.
Ive never seen such celebration in croke Park, everyone stayed to soak it in. Mayo for sam is a dream no more.
Very happy for David Brady [the hardest man in the Whest]
Absolutely delighted for Mayo, and the manner of the win makes it even more special. The pure raw emotion was a sight to behold at the end.
Could have won by more, but that doesn't matter.
Its one of the greatest underdog stories ive ever seen.
Congratulations and enjoy the celebrations
https://x.com/Maccer1988/status/2081463286680174653/video/1?s=46
Wonder how this boy is feeling today about f**king Andy Moran 😅
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 09:14:33 PMQuote from: square_ball on July 26, 2026, 09:06:25 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 07:45:26 PMHope O'Donoghue gets footballer of the year, Clifford a class act obviously but O'Donoghue does the dirty work far better while still stepping up with the big scores- the difference today was attitude and workrate, no better example than those two, Clifford is one lazy fecker
I've seen some shit talked on this board the past while but this could be the worst yet.
Ok. Watch him not track back or press when he loses the ball. He's the best I've ever seen but look at the difference in workrate from forwards off the ball there today.
O'Donoghue was playing in the half forward line for the majority of the match. Tracking back and doing the dirty work is part of the gig when you play there. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Team of the year predictions?
Murphy
Byrne
Foley
Coyne
Whittaker
McDonnell
Hession
Kilpatrick
Carney
Scully/Kilkenny
R O'D
P Clifford
Kobe
D Clifford
Beirne
Strange the Connacht and Ulster champions not getting one but can't say anyone really deserves one.
No pitch invasion
Mayo enacted the maximal risk reward strategy with 2pt efforts and lady luck came good. They scored 4 and Kerry only 1.
Tally has won with Tyrone Kerry and Mayo. Galway his next move? Lol
Ha, not that it matters but ROD took approximately a bazillion steps once he collected the ball en route to the goal ;D
And allowed a 2 bounce point as well.
Ah sure let the game flow.....
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 26, 2026, 10:13:30 PMTeam of the year predictions?
Murphy
Byrne
Foley
Coyne
Whittaker
McDonnell
Hession
Kilpatrick
Carney
Scully/Kilkenny
R O'D
P Clifford
Kobe
D Clifford
Beirne
Strange the Connacht and Ulster champions not getting one but can't say anyone really deserves one.
No D Clifford for me. Too lazy
Anyone put me up in Castlebar the mara and the wife?
Quote from: tiempo on July 26, 2026, 10:24:36 PMNo pitch invasion
No September All-Ireland finals anymore either.
When Mayo travel home tomorrow I'm sure they'll be extra respectful to any funeral they may encounter.
Interviews in Ballagh.
Thats all we fkn need
Why do they keep asking the lad about Australia, just let him enjoy the victory for now.
So happy for Mayo.
The noise there today was incredible.
The outpouring of emotion too. I honestly thought it was working against them early on as they needed to take a beat.
I know Mayo missed a few in spells but so did Kerry. Seanie O'Se hit some bad ones.
But f**k it! What a day and what a game.
Football is brilliant! UP MAYO!!
Quote from: whitey on July 26, 2026, 05:40:00 PMFvckin insane that the terms of the curse played out
And they wore white like 1951
And 2021 was the only and last final out of 11 in which Mayo's opponents wore white jerseys. In hindsight maybe that was a sign the curse was nearing the end.
Delighted+++++ for Mayo, took real guts to come back from their poor start. O'Donohue was simply amazing.
And they have the best song!!
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 26, 2026, 10:29:49 PMMayo enacted the maximal risk reward strategy with 2pt efforts and lady luck came good. They scored 4 and Kerry only 1.
Tally has won with Tyrone Kerry and Mayo. Galway his next move? Lol
Tally was with Galway previously under Kevin Walsh.
Mayo 4 two-pointers from 13 attempts today
Kerry 1 from 6 attempts.
Last years final Kerry scored 5 two pointers to Donegals none.
Another vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
Congratulations Mayo. I would have been vehemently anti Mayo my whole life as a Ros man. I was shouting for them today. It's a great story in a sport we all love. I couldn't hope they had another crushing defeat. There's enough divisions and bitterness and bad vibes in the world. I've enough of that bad feeling at this stage of my life. Well done Mayo from a noisy neighbour. I won't be looking up social media stuff to try and get annoyed over silly stuff. I'll admire your sporting achievement and leave it at that.
A truly memorable game - as a neutral I can't remember ever being so invested in an All-Ireland Final.
Even sitting at home watching on TV it was impossible not to get caught up in the emotion of the occasion.
Absolutely delighted for the long suffering Mayo supporters - there will be many a celebratory toast not only at home but among the huge Mayo diaspora across the world.
Quote from: befair on July 26, 2026, 11:14:54 PMAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
Geezer was right when he said there is no real defending other than high press...and thats usually the forwards.
Defenders are completely exposed so you "simply" need to shoot and hope efficiency is good. Id argue Mayo didnt panic because Andy just beat into them "keep shooting and staying postive itll come".
Its refreshing tbh after the safety first shite that was plaguing football. Look at ROD ball into Flynn. "Crazy" stuff but almost got a goal.
Burns thanking Allianz in his speech....wtf :o :-X :'(
Does this result today further enforce how good that Dublin team was.
Mayo threw absolutely everything at them on a few occasions but Dublin somehow dug it out every time without fail never losing a final.
Kerry had a chance to start a dynasty today but they buckled.
(https://i.ibb.co/Z1wvxhLH/FB-IMG-1785108083830.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wpd7fcxD)
Ryan O'Donoghue the man of the match in the All-Ireland final.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2026, 12:23:39 AM(https://i.ibb.co/Z1wvxhLH/FB-IMG-1785108083830.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wpd7fcxD)
Darragh Beirne should be in there in my opinion. Unlucky to miss out.
It's a pity Whitey isn't around.
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on July 26, 2026, 11:57:11 PMBurns thanking Allianz in his speech....wtf :o :-X :'(
Today is a great day for Irish sport.
Can people not just stop yapping for a day?
Fwiw Andy Moran was refusing to do pressers in front of Allianz hording a la Tyrone.
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 01:55:37 AMIt's a pity Whitey isn't around.
Did you miss his plea to the Mayo team bus not to drive thru Foxford on the way home and incur the wrath of a priest?
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 01:55:37 AMIt's a pity Whitey isn't around.
I'm lurking but not posting anymore
After 2021s loss I swore I'd never watch again but my sons persuaded me to bring them to watch the game today
Funny thing is, with about a minute left I couldn't watch it anymore and went outside the pub. I turned on Midwest Radio and discovered they'd won....the TV feed was about a minute behind the live action.
I was in Boston when their curse was broken in 2004....and it's a very similar feeling. Hasn't sunk in yet
In Mayo-Gaelic football is life . It means so much to so many people whose
Family are spread all over the Globe. I saw a video from the Irish Center in Liverpool and spotted my mother's 89 years old cousin and family watching the game.
Quote from: weareros on July 27, 2026, 02:10:28 AMQuote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 01:55:37 AMIt's a pity Whitey isn't around.
Did you miss his plea to the Mayo team bus not to drive thru Foxford on the way home and incur the wrath of a priest?
I was only half joking about that by the way
Fantastic Mayo. One of the best and most memorable sporting moments I can recall. It is up there with ireland beaing romania in penalties in italia 1990.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2026, 10:35:27 PMAnd allowed a 2 bounce point as well.
Ah sure let the game flow.....
Balances its self out. Paul murphy kept getting exposed and everytime he would grab an mayo arm and throw himself to the ground getting a free out each time
The other big winners from this year's games in Croke Park were .....................
The Sawdoctors.
Quote from: APM on July 27, 2026, 07:35:31 AMThe other big winners from this year's games in Croke Park were .....................
The Sawdoctors.
Jeez two great tunes
And fk everyone knows them young and old
What a day
Just a pleasure to witness mayo winning
Still smiling
Hopefully geezer practices what he preaches next year
High press and let the young guys at it
Quote from: naka on July 27, 2026, 08:07:02 AMQuote from: APM on July 27, 2026, 07:35:31 AMThe other big winners from this year's games in Croke Park were .....................
The Sawdoctors.
Jeez two great tunes
And fk everyone knows them young and old
What a day
Just a pleasure to witness mayo winning
Still smiling
Hopefully geezer practices what he preaches next year
High press and let the young guys at it
What a day - that's another one 🤭
Should've gave that an oul blast too
That was nearly as good as Tyrone winning it. Fair play to Mayo. Two Galbally involved. Paddy with Mayo and Sean on the sideline.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 27, 2026, 08:22:33 AMQuote from: naka on July 27, 2026, 08:07:02 AMQuote from: APM on July 27, 2026, 07:35:31 AMThe other big winners from this year's games in Croke Park were .....................
The Sawdoctors.
Jeez two great tunes
And fk everyone knows them young and old
What a day
Just a pleasure to witness mayo winning
Still smiling
Hopefully geezer practices what he preaches next year
High press and let the young guys at it
What a day - that's another one 🤭
Should've gave that an oul blast too
Yip and pre match should have been
To win just once ....
Congrats to Mayo. Enjoy the celebrations!
Like everyone else I was delighted for Mayo yesterday.
Can't help but think of Farrandeelin and how he would have loved this.
Actually just seen on facebook that today would have been his birthday, what a weekend that would have been for him.
Well done to Mayo, delighted for them, the most resilient people in Ireland. They just keep going & going, fair play to them. Just hope some of this good stuff, rubs off on us.
https://x.com/kdkilbane77/status/2081599492185379031
Quote from: befair on July 26, 2026, 11:14:54 PMAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
Main 2 ingredients there are fitness and hunger, then coaching, might be a few unfit teams die on that hill this club championship campaign
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on July 26, 2026, 07:01:03 PMQuote from: grounded on July 26, 2026, 06:58:29 PMKerry wouldn't begrudge them this one after all the heart break
I heard Jarleth Burns say something similar in his speech.
I'm not sure it is a matter of begrudging or otherwise, but I think its easy for a neutral, or somebody with no skin in the game to take that view. I doubt too many Kerry men will be too effusive over it.
Fair enough, but on reflection I'm sure they will be comforted by the fact that w
they have
Quote from: JollyGreenGiant on July 26, 2026, 07:01:03 PMQuote from: grounded on July 26, 2026, 06:58:29 PMKerry wouldn't begrudge them this one after all the heart break
I heard Jarleth Burns say something similar in his speech.
I'm not sure it is a matter of begrudging or otherwise, but I think its easy for a neutral, or somebody with no skin in the game to take that view. I doubt too many Kerry men will be too effusive over it.
Fair enough, but on reflection I'm sure they will be comforted by the fact that they have 39 or so All Ireland titles in the bag and they will be back.
Ah boys. Andy Moran saying he offered up a prayer to John O 'Mahoney and "he got us over the line" in 69th minute was pure class. Goosebumps.
And Ronan O Garas tribute to Aidy. Great to see
Never heard Andy Moran speak much before but really carries himself well. Spoke really well after the game and in the hotel last night.
Very unassuming and affable and doesn't seem to take things too seriously. I think people like that in a person. A good trait to have.
I remember an old coach said to me it's all about building relationships with players. Get to really know them. Their work or uni courses etc. Build on that knowledge and they'll go far for you. You could hear the players relate to this last night in terms of Moran and his management style.
What the Mayo captain was saying about how "everything is possible". This isn't true, that is just social media influencer nonsense.
Not every inter county player can win the Sam Maguire. A player has a senior career of about 15 years at most. So if you consider the amount of teams in the Sam Maguire competition you would need to have a different winner every year.
The reality is that the next 10 winners will be a mix of Kerry, Armagh, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal, Dublin and maybe Derry.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 10:30:14 AMAh boys. Andy Moran saying he offered up a prayer to John O 'Mahoney and "he got us over the line" in 69th minute was pure class. Goosebumps.
And Ronan O Garas tribute to Aidy. Great to see
The tributes from other sports were class.
Beirnes free under the Cusack was unreal. Ice in the veins. Andy deserves serious credit for putting maximum faith in them as it instilled belief and they paid back in spades.
Side note. rte player acting up...why dont they just upload whole shebang to youtube?
Quote from: marty34 on July 27, 2026, 10:36:58 AMNever heard Andy Moran speak much before but really carries himself well. Spoke really well after the game and in the hotel last night.
Very unassuming and affable and doesn't seem to take things too seriously. I think people like that in a person. A good trait to have.
.
Just your normal Roscommon person ;)
Well done Mayo.
It's good to see a team with no real inhibitions giving it a real cut at it irrespective of the wides and mistakes, they kept going all out attack at every opportunity and forced their will on Kerry.
The best way to win IMO.
Well done the referee. Yes he made mistakes, the double bounce point, Murphy buying the odd free out when it looked like he'd be dispossessed, etc, but in all he let them at it and had no bearing on the game and that's the best outcome for a referee in that they just blend into the game and not front and centre of it.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 26, 2026, 11:45:49 PMQuote from: befair on July 26, 2026, 11:14:54 PMAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
Geezer was right when he said there is no real defending other than high press...and thats usually the forwards.
Defenders are completely exposed so you "simply" need to shoot and hope efficiency is good. Id argue Mayo didnt panic because Andy just beat into them "keep shooting and staying postive itll come".
Its refreshing tbh after the safety first shite that was plaguing football. Look at ROD ball into Flynn. "Crazy" stuff but almost got a goal.
Jesus, even the outside of the boot pass that started the move for the last point. The world was telling him to run down the clock yet he just went for the jugular.
Class. Tommy Conroy had Kobe steaming into the box and should have fed him for a goal to wrap it up but took safe option. That would have been an incredible cherry on top. Flynn should have goaled as well.
What a role model for kids ROD is...as was mentioned his skill in tackle is next level for a forward, how he can get his feet and stand up right helped by his boxing experience.
Not to take anyth
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2026, 11:00:38 AMWell done Mayo.
It's good to see a team with no real inhibitions giving it a real cut at it irrespective of the wides and mistakes, they kept going all out attack at every opportunity and forced their will on Kerry.
The best way to win IMO.
Well done the referee. Yes he made mistakes, the double bounce point, Murphy buying the odd free out when it looked like he'd be dispossessed, etc, but in all he let them at it and had no bearing on the game and that's the best outcome for a referee in that they just blend into the game and not front and centre of it
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2026, 11:00:38 AMWell done Mayo.
It's good to see a team with no real inhibitions giving it a real cut at it irrespective of the wides and mistakes, they kept going all out attack at every opportunity and forced their will on Kerry.
The best way to win IMO.
Well done the referee. Yes he made mistakes, the double bounce point, Murphy buying the odd free out when it looked like he'd be dispossessed, etc, but in all he let them at it and had no bearing on the game and that's the best outcome for a referee in that they just blend into the game and not front and centre of it.
Not to take anything away from Mayo, however the referee was key. He allowed Mayo to attack Kerry ball carriers relentlessly - as any good referee should have done. Often when Kerry defenders were under pressure I expected them to get a free out. I suspect there are many high profile officials who would have given Kerry benefit of doubt a few times. Not yesterday.
It was great officiating.
Agree thought McNally was excellent. To be critical he let the steps go abit much and Beirne got away with a double bounce, evened out though with Kerry defenders getting lucky a few times coming out and grabbing the Mayo forward tackling them
Caught up on the Beeb late last night. Niblock said a Seanie O Shea tapover from 20 years was of "obcene quality"
From 7th min to 14th min [DC goal] barely anything happened and Hession was key to slowing game down wasting Kerrys scoring potential whilst sacrificing their own. It takes massive guts.
They also seemed to draw kerry closer to goal to avoid 2pt efforts. Jacko will face serious scrutiny on tactical front.
Can't see Jacko not being at the helm next year if he wants to be there. He'll probably be there for Kerry's 40th.
Quote from: APM on July 27, 2026, 07:35:31 AMThe other big winners from this year's games in Croke Park were .....................
The Sawdoctors.
Coincidentally, they're up next on the music thread 8)
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 11:18:10 AMClass. Tommy Conroy had Kobe steaming into the box and should have fed him for a goal to wrap it up but took safe option. That would have been an incredible cherry on top. Flynn should have goaled as well.
What a role model for kids ROD is...as was mentioned his skill in tackle is next level for a forward, how he can get his feet and stand up right helped by his boxing experience.
The important thing there was putting the ball dead , and wasting a few more precious seconds.
Had he fisted it across, and Kobe fisted it towards goal, it might have been saved , and Kerry hoofed it up before the hooter.
He made the correct decision. Even had Conroy fisted wide , seconds were wasted. Either way , the game was won with that decision
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2026, 12:26:12 PMQuote from: APM on July 27, 2026, 07:35:31 AMThe other big winners from this year's games in Croke Park were .....................
The Sawdoctors.
Coincidentally, they're up next on the music thread 8)
Plus they're at Féile soon also.
I still hope goes to Australia. Too good an opportunity for him to miss from a personal point of view.
I hope he's not swayed by the emotion of yesterdays win and homecoming etc.
Quote from: marty34 on July 27, 2026, 12:40:46 PMI still hope goes to Australia. Too good an opportunity for him to miss from a personal point of view.
I hope he's not swayed by the emotion of yesterdays win and homecoming etc.
Ah he'll definitely go. As a neutral hopefully he comes back in his early 20's and we get to see his best years here.
Depends if Mayo setup a "Kobe fund" but its done deal, its actually amazing he was there for this year considering contract etc.
Had he born a month later hes not eligible. It is mythological stuff. The Gods were on Mayos side.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 12:50:42 PMDepends if Mayo setup a "Kobe fund" but its done deal, its actually amazing he was there for this year considering contract etc.
Had he born a month later hes not eligible. It is mythological stuff. The Gods were on Mayos side.
Moran said he'll get money and all sorted if it would convince him to stay but it's probably about more than thag
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 27, 2026, 11:44:56 AMAgree thought McNally was excellent. To be critical he let the steps go abit much and Beirne got away with a double bounce, evened out though with Kerry defenders getting lucky a few times coming out and grabbing the Mayo forward tackling them
The Mayo goal was brilliant, however it all began with ROD doing a graceful Fred Astaire impersonation.
The foul on ROD which led to the missed 2 pointer: I thought it should have been a black card. The Kerry defender simply tackled him down.
Very happy for Mayo. I thought they had Kerry "on the ropes' twice in the second half and let them off the hook both times. Though the second time the goal that went off the crossbar was rotten luck.
If Clifford had made that 2 pointer, with 2 minutes left, to tie it we might be lamenting another Mayo near miss.
tbh this is what troubles me about the new rules. Mayo were clearly the better team, yet a bad bounce here or a shot there and the better team might not have won today. Yes it is very entertaining under the new rules, however it still has a Roller Derby feel to it. But if the team we want to win does win then it's all good! Right?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 27, 2026, 01:02:47 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 12:50:42 PMDepends if Mayo setup a "Kobe fund" but its done deal, its actually amazing he was there for this year considering contract etc.
Had he born a month later hes not eligible. It is mythological stuff. The Gods were on Mayos side.
Moran said he'll get money and all sorted if it would convince him to stay but it's probably about more than thag
He wants to play professional sport
Down beat Donegal
Wicklow beat Down
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal then win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Dubs to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Jes it could pass for the 90s on that basis
If the next 20 years is anything like the 90s 00s we're in for a treat
Duty of care Jim put out to pasture me thinks
Reports suggesting the whole family moving out - Why wouldn't you go to Oz if you were him, delivered Mayo their AI title, chance to play professionally and better lifestyle out there with weather etc.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
I get your overall point but Westmeath never beat Louth and Armagh never beat Donegal.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Absolutely mad year. Only thing is Westmeath beat Dublin not Louth and Armagh beat Monaghan not Donegal ;)
Is McGuinness still in charge of Donegal?
Is he now the day-before-yesterday's man?
https://x.com/tomas_mulcahy/status/2081435877973062041
The best day the Gaa has had for a long time. Not taking away from Kerry. I'm a hurling man but we needed this. The underdogs, non performers, the youth, the freedom, the belief. Congrats Mayo.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 27, 2026, 01:02:47 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 12:50:42 PMDepends if Mayo setup a "Kobe fund" but its done deal, its actually amazing he was there for this year considering contract etc.
Had he born a month later hes not eligible. It is mythological stuff. The Gods were on Mayos side.
Moran said he'll get money and all sorted if it would convince him to stay but it's probably about more than thag
I would imagine he wants to try professional sport and try and get up the AFL ladder, the contract he has signed isn't exactly life changing money.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Wicklow beat Down
Next curse to fix is Kildare (1928)
Then Waterford (1959)
Quote from: befair on July 26, 2026, 11:14:54 PMAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
I don't agree.
The high press could have worked in the old rules too.
Only new rules that have had a positive impact, imo, are the solo-and-go and the dissent rule.
Up until this game, and maybe Mayo's SF too, most teams still played around the 2point arc - as opposed to the sideways across the 45 type play. The new rules were meant to bring in more kicking into the FF line, not much of that happens. There are more high balls into the midfield 8, but up until this game, it has been a case of the team with the tallest men win that midfield kickout battle. The Mayo intensity in the tackle was what won them possession and bucked the trend in that area, maybe that's the blueprint going forward, but it's also not new. Tyrone did it v Kerry in 03 for example, under the old rules.
2 pointers devalue goals.
I still don't agree with this fawning over of the new rules just because we got an excellent game of football. That match would have been just as good under the old rules.
The question I would ask is this. If there were no new rules, as we call them, would we still have the emergence of teams like Louth, Roscommon, Mayo, Westmeath and the slight dropping off of teams like Dublin, Donegal, Galway? I think we would.
None of that takes away from this fantastic game of football and fantastic result.
Just wanted to add my congratulations to the Mayo posters here. Absolutely delighted and I found myself getting quite emotional watching the Mayo emotions pour out. What a wonderful day. And as a few others have done already, can I mention our friend Farrandeelin, at this time. I'd love to think he's still going crazy somewhere, celebrating that victory.
A few observations from yesterday.
David McBrien is a much smarter footballer than I would have thought previously. He's integral to Mayo's counter attack.
Jack Carney had, one handpass aside, a perfect game. They should video that and send it to schools "how to play midfield".
ROD is phenomenal. To be that talented and hardworking at once is the rarest of things.
Young Beirne's free about 20 mins in was one of the key moments in the match. It was a statement of "we are not going down without a fight".
Perhaps the best thing in the entire match was the referee allowing a forward press. I've argued for years that defenders basically get out of jail for free. Any contact at all and it's adjudged a foul. Hence most teams don't bother forward pressing; you just never seem to get the rewards it deserves. McNally yesterday was wonderful.
https://x.com/NewstalkFM/status/2081726099898187910
Quote from: thewobbler on July 27, 2026, 03:25:51 PMA few observations from yesterday.
David McBrien is a much smarter footballer than I would have thought previously. He's integral to Mayo's counter attack.
Jack Carney had, one handpass aside, a perfect game. They should video that and send it to schools "how to play midfield".
ROD is phenomenal. To be that talented and hardworking at once is the rarest of things.
Young Beirne's free about 20 mins in was one of the key moments in the match. It was a statement of "we are not going down without a fight".
Perhaps the best thing in the entire match was the referee allowing a forward press. I've argued for years that defenders basically get out of jail for free. Any contact at all and it's adjudged a foul. Hence most teams don't bother forward pressing; you just never seem to get the rewards it deserves. McNally yesterday was wonderful.
Excellent point on the ref, was just about to post that. Really made the game by letting it go and allowing contact, who knew?
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 27, 2026, 03:09:12 PMThe high press could have worked in the old rules too.
It wouldn't have worked. Any high press totally negated by the fact you could pass to the goalkeeper.
Armagh beat Donegal en route was my meaning..but yeah so many games and upsets hard to keep track of the CHAOS and MAYHEM. Obscene amounts of it..as Tommy might say!
Will be fun now ranking the top teams.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 27, 2026, 03:09:12 PMQuote from: befair on July 26, 2026, 11:14:54 PMAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
I don't agree.
The high press could have worked in the old rules too.
Only new rules that have had a positive impact, imo, are the solo-and-go and the dissent rule.
Up until this game, and maybe Mayo's SF too, most teams still played around the 2point arc - as opposed to the sideways across the 45 type play. The new rules were meant to bring in more kicking into the FF line, not much of that happens. There are more high balls into the midfield 8, but up until this game, it has been a case of the team with the tallest men win that midfield kickout battle. The Mayo intensity in the tackle was what won them possession and bucked the trend in that area, maybe that's the blueprint going forward, but it's also not new. Tyrone did it v Kerry in 03 for example, under the old rules.
2 pointers devalue goals.
I still don't agree with this fawning over of the new rules just because we got an excellent game of football. That match would have been just as good under the old rules.
The question I would ask is this. If there were no new rules, as we call them, would we still have the emergence of teams like Louth, Roscommon, Mayo, Westmeath and the slight dropping off of teams like Dublin, Donegal, Galway? I think we would.
None of that takes away from this fantastic game of football and fantastic result.
With Kerry up by 7 after 15 minutes the game would have been over under the old rules, the 2 pointers are what made this game what it was.
Quote from: marty34 on July 27, 2026, 12:40:46 PMI still hope goes to Australia. Too good an opportunity for him to miss from a personal point of view.
I hope he's not swayed by the emotion of yesterdays win and homecoming etc.
He signed a 2 year Category B Rookie contract this past November. He gets a base salary of €68k for his 2 year contract. If he plays any Senior football matches his contract bumps up to €100k.
If it doesn't work out for him he'll back aged 20 with decent money made and great life experience.
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 02:55:41 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Wicklow beat Down
Next curse to fix is Kildare (1928)
Then Waterford (1959)
I'm sure there are plenty of counties who have never even won one that need a curse broken just as much as those two counties.
Out of interest what is the longest drought from a county that won it before.? Hurling or football.
Mayo set the pattern right from the throw-ins in both halves. Last year Gavin white steamed on the loose ball both times, and Kerry had all the energy. This year Mayo were ready
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 03:41:07 PMArmagh beat Donegal en route was my meaning..but yeah so many games and upsets hard to keep track of the CHAOS and MAYHEM. Obscene amounts of it..as Tommy might say!
Will be fun now ranking the top teams.
We didn't unfortunately, Down did us the favour then went on the beer for the week and let us slap them in the Ulster semi :D.
Mad year for results and honestly couldn't begin to rank teams now. Kerry will be there or thereabouts next year obviously, would expect Armagh and Donegal to have more of say, be interesting to see what Mayo do, the talent is obviously there but so difficult to go back to back and the way they'll rightly celebrate they'll only be sobering up come the league, thats a worry for another day though. Do Galway have a kick in them, piles of talent there but have had a lot of tough days and their big men are getting on in years, Dubs will feel theres an all Ireland in them and Tyrone are on the rise- both should have beaten Kerry
Monaghan, Roscommon and Meath would all see themselves as capable of beating Mayo on their day as well, that's the beauty of an underdog win it gives everyone that bit more belief.
Thats 5 different winners in 6 years now with Kerry the only team to win 2 titles and no one going back to back, brilliant for the game as a whole to have a different winner.
Yesterday highlighted the most under appreciated of the new rules, no pass back to the goal keeper. It's radically changed the defensive/safety first structure of football. I have a feeling we're gonna see a lot more teams have the balls to really push up on teams short kick outs.
This is turn will influence more long contested kick outs and increase the jeopardy and chaos that makes for the most entertaining games imo.
I think it was mentioned earlier but Kerry got away with a soft free out or two under the pressure in the first 20 minutes.
Beirne was a bit excited at one stage but Murphy pulled ROD down for another. As the game wore on the Mayo lads controlled their tackling a bit more and it helped the ref a bit in terms of letting them at it fair and square.
Quote from: ArmaghTastic on July 27, 2026, 03:52:52 PMQuote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 02:55:41 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Wicklow beat Down
Next curse to fix is Kildare (1928)
Then Waterford (1959)
I'm sure there are plenty of counties who have never even won one that need a curse broken just as much as those two counties.
Out of interest what is the longest drought from a county that won it before.? Hurling or football.
111 years since Laois won one :-\
What I'd give to see them win a Liam MacCarthy, won't be happening in my lifetime unfortunately.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 27, 2026, 03:09:12 PMQuote from: befair on July 26, 2026, 11:14:54 PMAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
I don't agree.
The high press could have worked in the old rules too.
Only new rules that have had a positive impact, imo, are the solo-and-go and the dissent rule.
Up until this game, and maybe Mayo's SF too, most teams still played around the 2point arc - as opposed to the sideways across the 45 type play. The new rules were meant to bring in more kicking into the FF line, not much of that happens. There are more high balls into the midfield 8, but up until this game, it has been a case of the team with the tallest men win that midfield kickout battle. The Mayo intensity in the tackle was what won them possession and bucked the trend in that area, maybe that's the blueprint going forward, but it's also not new. Tyrone did it v Kerry in 03 for example, under the old rules.
2 pointers devalue goals.
I still don't agree with this fawning over of the new rules just because we got an excellent game of football. That match would have been just as good under the old rules.
The question I would ask is this. If there were no new rules, as we call them, would we still have the emergence of teams like Louth, Roscommon, Mayo, Westmeath and the slight dropping off of teams like Dublin, Donegal, Galway? I think we would.
None of that takes away from this fantastic game of football and fantastic result.
All fair points. On the bit in bold. The FRC fronted by Jim Gavin main hope and dream was the return to the old traditional kick passing game and that hasn't happened.
Yesterday the team who kicked the least won.
Kerry kicked the ball 13 times from 42 plays forward. While Mayo 6 times from 39 plays.
Old rules and now new rules it's still mainly a through the hands game and Mayo scored 1-18 in that manner yesterday and 0-2 from foot passing scores.
2027 betting
Kerry 15/8
Donegal 5/1
Mayo 6/1
Armagh 15/2
Galway 9/1
Tyrone 9/1
Dublin 9/1
There's your ratings according to Betfair.
The team who gets the right combination of general luck, fewest injuries and kindest draw will win. Motivation is obviously huge, no way Mayo will replicate this AI run, Kerry ran on a fair bit of motivational spite & venom last year too.
Quote from: bennydorano on July 27, 2026, 04:18:32 PM2027 betting
Kerry 15/8
Donegal 5/1
Mayo 6/1
Armagh 15/2
Galway 9/1
Tyrone 9/1
Dublin 9/1
There's your ratings according to Betfair.
The team who gets the right combination of general luck, fewest injuries and kindest draw will win. Motivation is obviously huge, no way Mayo will replicate this AI run, Kerry ran on a fair bit of motivational spite & venom last year too.
Yeah absolutely, Moran spoke about Mayo having largely clean bill of health all year bar one or two, Kerry last year ironically their couple of injuries led them to stumbling into a brilliant midfield, was similar with us in 2024 losing Conor O'Neill and Mackin, McCambridge and Grimley stepped up and were fantastic. Alot Kerrys big players this year weren't just at themselves with lack of game time/fitness but they'll be back.
Dingles club run really didnt help them. Paul Geaneys fairytale ended in disaster.
Given the squad depth issues that this year magnified, I cannot for the life of me see how there is enough money riding on Donegal to make us second in the bookies favourites for next year.
One would assume that Jim will put a bit less emphasis on the league this time out and make sure that there are legs left in the squad come June, but that doesn't make up for options when you need 20 men to win at the sharp end of the Championship.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 04:44:55 PMDingles club run really didnt help them. Paul Geaneys fairytale ended in disaster.
Only on the bench to pick up the cup it appears. A fit Brosnan would have been a better option. Given Geaney's age and injury issues that's him surely done with Kerry now.
Diarmuid O'Connor out proved to big loss and for the strength in depth Kerry meant to have they really struggled to get any impact from their subs introduced.
Main downfall was not focusing on the main strengths of Mayo and trying to curb them. They had the look of a team that thought midfield will be won and the Clifford's,Sean O'Shea will do the rest.
Doesn't everyone have squad issues though?
Kerry had a 34 and a 35 year old playing all season.
That wouldn't suggest they've a bench to call upon.
Quote from: ArmaghTastic on July 27, 2026, 03:52:52 PMQuote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 02:55:41 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 02:17:41 PMDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Wicklow beat Down
Next curse to fix is Kildare (1928)
Then Waterford (1959)
I'm sure there are plenty of counties who have never even won one that need a curse broken just as much as those two counties.
Out of interest what is the longest drought from a county that won it before.? Hurling or football.
Football
Limerick and Waterford are 1890s I think
Wexford 1920 or so
Kildare 1928
Roscommon 1944
Cavan 1950s
Louth 1957
Offaly 1982
Hurling
Dublin 1938
Laois 1915
Cork 2005
Antrim lost 2 finals
QuoteQuoteDown beat Donegal
Donegal beat Kerry
Armagh beat Donegal and win Ulster[18 year wait]
Tyrone beat Mayo
Rossies beat Mayo and win Connaught[7 year wait]
Monaghan beat Rossies
Louth beat Dublin
Louth nip armagh
Westmeath beat Louth to win Leinster[end 22 year wait]
Mayo beat Kerry to end a 75 year wait.
Madcap championship and a fitting end to an historic season.
Wicklow beat Down
Next curse to fix is Kildare (1928)
Then Waterford (1959)
Provincials for Fermanagh and Wicklow, surely?
And a number 13 to lift Sam
QuoteQuoteAnother vindication for the new rules. Hope coaches take note of the advantages of a high press
I don't agree.
The high press could have worked in the old rules too.
Only new rules that have had a positive impact, imo, are the solo-and-go and the dissent rule.
Up until this game, and maybe Mayo's SF too, most teams still played around the 2point arc - as opposed to the sideways across the 45 type play. The new rules were meant to bring in more kicking into the FF line, not much of that happens. There are more high balls into the midfield 8, but up until this game, it has been a case of the team with the tallest men win that midfield kickout battle. The Mayo intensity in the tackle was what won them possession and bucked the trend in that area, maybe that's the blueprint going forward, but it's also not new. Tyrone did it v Kerry in 03 for example, under the old rules.
2 pointers devalue goals.
I still don't agree with this fawning over of the new rules just because we got an excellent game of football. That match would have been just as good under the old rules.
The question I would ask is this. If there were no new rules, as we call them, would we still have the emergence of teams like Louth, Roscommon, Mayo, Westmeath and the slight dropping off of teams like Dublin, Donegal, Galway? I think we would.
None of that takes away from this fantastic game of football and fantastic result.
Agreed.
Quote from: bennydorano on July 27, 2026, 04:18:32 PM2027 betting
Kerry 15/8
Donegal 5/1
Mayo 6/1
Armagh 15/2
Galway 9/1
Tyrone 9/1
Dublin 9/1
There's your ratings according to Betfair.
The team who gets the right combination of general luck, fewest injuries and kindest draw will win. Motivation is obviously huge, no way Mayo will replicate this AI run, Kerry ran on a fair bit of motivational spite & venom last year too.
And the team that can defend properly when it matters. Armagh odds too short unless can fix the glaring defensive issues. Last two years had exits to Kerry having conceded 4-18 (30) and 0-32, The same Kerry held to 1-17 yesterday by a Mayo team who learnt from previous poor defensive efforts including their first All-Ireland series match when they could easily have conceded 7 or 8 goals to Monaghan.
Kerry won the U20 All-Ireland, who got a game 1 lad? They a good lad coming at midfield, they may start to play him.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 27, 2026, 04:56:58 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 04:44:55 PMDingles club run really didnt help them. Paul Geaneys fairytale ended in disaster.
Only on the bench to pick up the cup it appears. A fit Brosnan would have been a better option. Given Geaney's age and injury issues that's him surely done with Kerry now.
Diarmuid O'Connor out proved to big loss and for the strength in depth Kerry meant to have they really struggled to get any impact from their subs introduced.
Main downfall was not focusing on the main strengths of Mayo and trying to curb them. They had the look of a team that thought midfield will be won and the Clifford's,Sean O'Shea will do the rest.
Mayo gave their game plan away against Louth, and it amazes me that Kerry ignored the clues. Louth sauntered into tackles and lost the ball continuously in the middle third. I was sure Kerry would kick it long, but they made the same mistakes Louth made.
Mayo's other obvious tactic was to go for two pointers and Kerry weren't able to adjust to that on the day.
And their substitutions were a mess - O'Sullivan in for O'Connor (big loss) and shipped off again at halftime? Geaney on the bench but not used- what was the point of that?
Introduced Evans too early, needed his legs with 15 to go. Brought off a midfielder when they needed power around the middle?
All very strange. Jack O'Connor has done it all, but didn't seem a good day yesterday for the Kerry sideline.
Jack OConnor managed Kerry in 2004 and 2006 when they hammered Mayo in the All Ireland. He went into the Mayo dressingroom in 2004 and told the Mayo players that Kerry needed the all Ireland more than them.
Maybe he was expecting a repeat. Andy Moran asked a room full of journalists who thought Mayo would win and only 1 did.
Kerry couldn't deal with Mayo's workrate.
Quote from: Sportacus on July 27, 2026, 07:14:40 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 27, 2026, 04:56:58 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 04:44:55 PMDingles club run really didnt help them. Paul Geaneys fairytale ended in disaster.
Only on the bench to pick up the cup it appears. A fit Brosnan would have been a better option. Given Geaney's age and injury issues that's him surely done with Kerry now.
Diarmuid O'Connor out proved to big loss and for the strength in depth Kerry meant to have they really struggled to get any impact from their subs introduced.
Main downfall was not focusing on the main strengths of Mayo and trying to curb them. They had the look of a team that thought midfield will be won and the Clifford's,Sean O'Shea will do the rest.
Mayo gave their game plan away against Louth, and it amazes me that Kerry ignored the clues. Louth sauntered into tackles and lost the ball continuously in the middle third. I was sure Kerry would kick it long, but they made the same mistakes Mayo did.
Mayo's other obvious tactic was to go for two pointers and Kerry weren't able to adjust to that on the day.
And their substitutions were a mess - O'Sullivan in for O'Connor (big loss) and shipped off again at halftime? Geaney on the bench but not used- what was the point of that?
Introduced Evans too early, needed his legs with 15 to go. Brought off a midfielder when they needed power around the middle?
All very strange. Jack O'Connor has done it all, but didn't seem a good day yesterday for the Kerry sideline.
All I can think of with Geaney is he was there to come on a lift the cup
Sad that Michael Lyster didnt live to see it, I am sure he would have loved it.
As an aside reminded how irrelevant the shite stirrer who shant be named is now, scrolled past his usual captain hindsight BS and took in a few other articles/videos from quality men like Joe Molloy whose hotel sitdown with Andy is must see.
Galway man
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 08:20:00 PMJack OConnor managed Kerry in 2004 and 2006 when they hammered Mayo in the All Ireland. He went into the Mayo dressingroom in 2004 and told the Mayo players that Kerry needed the all Ireland more than them.
Maybe he was expecting a repeat. Andy Moran asked a room full of journalists who thought Mayo would win and only 1 did.
Kerry couldn't deal with Mayo's workrate.
Did that really happen?
Belatedly joining the celebrations. Surprisingly close to 1993 in terms of emotion.
Good to see Farrandeelin and Lar na Parka being remembered; Farr would have celebrated his birthday today in some style.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2026, 09:53:22 PMLads Kerry are really over-hyped this year.
They will be beaten by Dublin or Mayo.
I told ya.....
Hope you got a biteen excited Bunk!
Quote from: Sportacus on July 27, 2026, 07:14:40 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 27, 2026, 04:56:58 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 27, 2026, 04:44:55 PMDingles club run really didnt help them. Paul Geaneys fairytale ended in disaster.
Only on the bench to pick up the cup it appears. A fit Brosnan would have been a better option. Given Geaney's age and injury issues that's him surely done with Kerry now.
Diarmuid O'Connor out proved to big loss and for the strength in depth Kerry meant to have they really struggled to get any impact from their subs introduced.
Main downfall was not focusing on the main strengths of Mayo and trying to curb them. They had the look of a team that thought midfield will be won and the Clifford's,Sean O'Shea will do the rest.
Mayo gave their game plan away against Louth, and it amazes me that Kerry ignored the clues. Louth sauntered into tackles and lost the ball continuously in the middle third. I was sure Kerry would kick it long, but they made the same mistakes Mayo did.
Mayo's other obvious tactic was to go for two pointers and Kerry weren't able to adjust to that on the day.
And their substitutions were a mess - O'Sullivan in for O'Connor (big loss) and shipped off again at halftime? Geaney on the bench but not used- what was the point of that?
Introduced Evans too early, needed his legs with 15 to go. Brought off a midfielder when they needed power around the middle?
All very strange. Jack O'Connor has done it all, but didn't seem a good day yesterday for the Kerry sideline.
It was a poor day at the office by Kerry management. Jack O'Connor said the other day he was no longer the manager but observer nowadays. As you said Mayo showed their hand against Louth but it doesn't appear much if any observing of that game was done by Kerry at all.
It was a bit of shotgun approach on the subs and it made no sense to start Tom O'Sullivan when he had only 40 minutes of championship football under his belt against Clare back in April.
Getting Paul Geaney onto the match day 26 and David Clifford not wear number 13 was more important things to address.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2026, 08:36:40 PMQuote from: seafoid on July 27, 2026, 08:20:00 PMJack OConnor managed Kerry in 2004 and 2006 when they hammered Mayo in the All Ireland. He went into the Mayo dressingroom in 2004 and told the Mayo players that Kerry needed the all Ireland more than them.
Maybe he was expecting a repeat. Andy Moran asked a room full of journalists who thought Mayo would win and only 1 did.
Kerry couldn't deal with Mayo's workrate.
Did that really happen?
It was in the Irish Times at the time. Kerry had lost the 2002 final.
The Kerry fans * will feel theyve left 3 finals behind them and maybe Jack has spoiled a generation they hoped could win back ground lost to Dubs.
They will regroup and learn, may well be here next year discussing the 40th.
*if that Jacko dressing room storys true wouldnt surprise because they have an entitlement complex of sorts. Like theyll die of dehydration if they dont drink from the cup
https://x.com/wicklowgaa/status/2081631095489974626
On behalf of the Wicklow County Board, players, management, and GAA supporters across the Garden County, we extend our heartfelt congratulations to Mayo GAA on winning the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship.
To the Mayo County Board, the management team, the players, and the extraordinary Mayo supporters worldwide, your perseverance, belief, and unwavering passion over the last 75 years have been nothing short of inspiring to the entire GAA community. To stand on the summit of Irish sport after 11 final heartbreaks is a masterclass in resilience. You have proven that no matter how long or tough the road, dedication and heart will always prevail.
We also want to pass on a sincere word of thanks. When we played the Tailteann Final in Croke Park two weeks ago just before your semi final, your supporters stepped up and joined as Wicklow's 16th man and cheered us on every step of the way, a gesture of true GAA sportsmanship that we won't forget.
A special word to our own County Treasurer, Larry Howard, a proud Mayo man through and through. God only knows when we will actually see him back in Wicklow again, but we know he'll be celebrating every second of it!
Enjoy bringing the Sam Maguire home to the West.
Comhghairdeas ó chroí libh go léir!
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Quote from: EoinW on July 27, 2026, 01:27:43 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 27, 2026, 11:44:56 AMAgree thought McNally was excellent. To be critical he let the steps go abit much and Beirne got away with a double bounce, evened out though with Kerry defenders getting lucky a few times coming out and grabbing the Mayo forward tackling them
The Mayo goal was brilliant, however it all began with ROD doing a graceful Fred Astaire impersonation.
The foul on ROD which led to the missed 2 pointer: I thought it should have been a black card. The Kerry defender simply tackled him down.
Very happy for Mayo. I thought they had Kerry "on the ropes' twice in the second half and let them off the hook both times. Though the second time the goal that went off the crossbar was rotten luck.
If Clifford had made that 2 pointer, with 2 minutes left, to tie it we might be lamenting another Mayo near miss.
tbh this is what troubles me about the new rules. Mayo were clearly the better team, yet a bad bounce here or a shot there and the better team might not have won today. Yes it is very entertaining under the new rules, however it still has a Roller Derby feel to it. But if the team we want to win does win then it's all good! Right?
The games won and lost over the 70 plus minutes, they all have the same opportunities to win or lose the game, the missed calls or bad decision making can seem more important at the end of a game but the best team, is the team with the most points... Mayo would give up multiple attempts at playing well in finals and losing to winning ugly.
Kerry had this game rapped up after 15 odd minutes, then stopped doing what was working for them, Mayo just kept plugging away and Kerry to an extent allowed them back in..
But the two pointers mean you have to keep on top all the game now
Games can really swing now though. Momentum changes are much different than before. If Kerry had even got one of those two pointers at the end they had momentum and mayo lose. The "down the stretch" part is absolutely critical. Not every score is equal or every tackle is equal etc.
The biggest triumph for mayo yesterday was being so far behind and not going into the mindset of here we go again and capitulating. Mayo obviously produce very good footballers regularly but Andy Moran to me has done as good a job as has ever been seen. The belief he instilled in that team compared to the fragility you would normally associate with mayo is phenomenal .
Just watching it back... Jason foley should save that shot
Quote from: WT4E on July 27, 2026, 10:39:17 PMJust watching it back... Jason foley should save that shot
The bullet shot from 5 yards out?
Was it a bu
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2026, 10:42:55 PMQuote from: WT4E on July 27, 2026, 10:39:17 PMJust watching it back... Jason foley should save that shot
The bullet shot from 5 yards out?
Was it a bullet looked like a side foot placement to me from about 13 metres of u take account if the angle
Could the fairytale stories of Mayo and Wicklow winning inspire other counties?
Could the likes of your Clares Tipperarys Wexfords be inspired by this or will hurling always reign supreme?
Tyrone should definitely be aiming to win an all Ireland in the next 3 years.
Will McGeeney and McGuinness change their style of play?.... looks like they have no alternative.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 14, 2024, 12:21:32 AMWe have entering a decade where All Ireland titles should be shared among a handful of counties. Last ten years Dublin won the All Ireland 7 times, Kerry 2, Tyrone 1. The next ten years could well be shared out among 4 or 5 counties.
I said that two years ago before any new rules was brought in.
Armagh,Kerry,Mayo so far and a 4th or 5th different county should win the All-Ireland in the next 7 years.
What, u mean like the 90's
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 27, 2026, 11:19:03 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 14, 2024, 12:21:32 AMWe have entering a decade where All Ireland titles should be shared among a handful of counties. Last ten years Dublin won the All Ireland 7 times, Kerry 2, Tyrone 1. The next ten years could well be shared out among 4 or 5 counties.
I said that two years ago before any new rules was brought in.
Armagh,Kerry,Mayo so far and a 4th or 5th different county should win the All-Ireland in the next 7 years.
5 different counties this decade do far.
As opposed to 4 in the decade previous.
4 the decade before that.
8 in the 90s though.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 27, 2026, 11:28:11 PMWhat, u mean like the 90's
The 90's was a great decade for both codes
8 football winners
6 hurling winners
Mayo's win was all down to Gary Neville visiting the county , apparently
So he says anyway
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 27, 2026, 11:28:11 PMWhat, u mean like the 90's
Somewhat like it and it was coming with or without new rules or formats.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 28, 2026, 12:00:48 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 27, 2026, 11:28:11 PMWhat, u mean like the 90's
Somewhat like it and it was coming with or without new rules or formats.
Funny you say that, but I remember around late 80's or early 90's in the NFL, they trialled four quarters and goalkeepers kicking out from the hands.
Or did I imagine all that?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1571242/irish-gun-kobe-mcdonald-heading-to-st-kilda-saints-after-making-most-of-one-chance-at-home
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 28, 2026, 12:19:21 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 28, 2026, 12:00:48 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 27, 2026, 11:28:11 PMWhat, u mean like the 90's
Somewhat like it and it was coming with or without new rules or formats.
Funny you say that, but I remember around late 80's or early 90's in the NFL, they trialled four quarters and goalkeepers kicking out from the hands.
Or did I imagine all that?
No you didn't.
Also taking sidelines and frees from the hand.
Anyway it's a lot more exciting having a scatter of teams around the same standard than having 1 superteam dominating for years.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2026, 08:18:47 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 28, 2026, 12:19:21 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 28, 2026, 12:00:48 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 27, 2026, 11:28:11 PMWhat, u mean like the 90's
Somewhat like it and it was coming with or without new rules or formats.
Funny you say that, but I remember around late 80's or early 90's in the NFL, they trialled four quarters and goalkeepers kicking out from the hands.
Or did I imagine all that?
No you didn't.
Also taking sidelines and frees from the hand.
Anyway it's a lot more exciting having a scatter of teams around the same standard than having 1 superteam dominating for years.
Absolutely that was the case. Keepers having a bucket of sand by the goals too to make kicking tees!
I reckon we are in the 90's style game at the minute and there will be at least 1 more 'new' winner this decade, my money is on Cork for that.
Haven't commented on the game itself but huge congratulations to all the Mayo people. As people said the likes of Farr and Lar will be dancing in heaven but also former posters like Muppet and that are also dancing ...
A fantastic win and a fantastic performance but it's amazing how something can just come together. An amazing team but it may not be the best Mayo team in terms of ability that has been in a final. What won it for me was the maniacal workrate that is the hall mark of Paddy Tally. They played like Tyrone did against Kerry on the 2005, hunting in packs and tackling just in the edge. Having a ref like Martin McNally was very much to their favour on that as he will allow it, Pat McEananeys protege earned his place in history.
A final for the ages, to close out a season for the ages. Probably the most fitting way to end what has been the best season in my memory in terms of entertainment and quality. Roll on 2027!!!
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 27, 2026, 11:02:42 PMCould the fairytale stories of Mayo and Wicklow winning inspire other counties?
Could the likes of your Clares Tipperarys Wexfords be inspired by this or will hurling always reign supreme?
Tyrone should definitely be aiming to win an all Ireland in the next 3 years.
Will McGeeney and McGuinness change their style of play?.... looks like they have no alternative.
dont care about Jim but if we want to succeed we will need a rethink on our tactics
There is a map here of counties by last win
https://x.com/fingac15/status/2081772611294405057
What is striking is how many counties have not won.
Monaghan is the big one.
Laois and Westmeath
Quote from: WT4E on July 27, 2026, 10:45:54 PMWas it a buQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2026, 10:42:55 PMQuote from: WT4E on July 27, 2026, 10:39:17 PMJust watching it back... Jason foley should save that shot
The bullet shot from 5 yards out?
Was it a bullet looked like a side foot placement to me from about 13 metres of u take account if the angle
BTW I'm sticking by this milltown row wrong on this instance!
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 28, 2026, 08:42:28 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 27, 2026, 11:02:42 PMCould the fairytale stories of Mayo and Wicklow winning inspire other counties?
Could the likes of your Clares Tipperarys Wexfords be inspired by this or will hurling always reign supreme?
Tyrone should definitely be aiming to win an all Ireland in the next 3 years.
Will McGeeney and McGuinness change their style of play?.... looks like they have no alternative.
dont care about Jim but if we want to succeed we will need a rethink on our tactics
Funny McGeeney was saying on the OTB final special "there is no defending now its a shootout" ok so why not play that way.
I think its difficult to take mayos 2pt approach as fans may get nervy, then that can feed bk to team BUT if your plan is "play the 2pt percentages" you can relax a bit knowing itll come good.
Also, teams who are playing this strategy are going to get more efficient and confident over time.
Expect a lot of counties to up their 2pt shooting next year, at county level lads should be clipping them over with relative ease, bar the odd cloven hooved midfielder/half back, some of the 2 pointers are going over with miles to spare and we've seen some whopping points by the top players in recent years and over the years, the 2 pointer really has paid for itself as it both rewards risk and improves the spectacle
https://x.com/offtheball/status/2082030975115002099
Mayo had 4 2 pointers, workrate and the Paddy Tally swarm. They also had 3 scoring forwards.
I wonder if any clubs will change tactics.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 27, 2026, 11:29:05 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 27, 2026, 11:19:03 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 14, 2024, 12:21:32 AMWe have entering a decade where All Ireland titles should be shared among a handful of counties. Last ten years Dublin won the All Ireland 7 times, Kerry 2, Tyrone 1. The next ten years could well be shared out among 4 or 5 counties.
I said that two years ago before any new rules was brought in.
Armagh,Kerry,Mayo so far and a 4th or 5th different county should win the All-Ireland in the next 7 years.
5 different counties this decade do far.
As opposed to 4 in the decade previous.
4 the decade before that.
8 in the 90s though.
5 different winners in 6 years is great going from a neutral stand point and no team has done back to back. Would be great if there was another new winner or two in the next 4 years, if 2 Sams went outside Dublin/Kerry that'd be some improvement on the 2010's.
Kobe McDonald's uncle is actually a member of this forum. About 13 years ago, he invited me up to Crossmolina to watch Ciarán play one of his final games. He was babysitting two young lads, including a 5-year-old Kobe. He told me right then that Kobe was going to be something special—crazy to think they already knew when he was that young
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 10:10:45 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 28, 2026, 08:42:28 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 27, 2026, 11:02:42 PMCould the fairytale stories of Mayo and Wicklow winning inspire other counties?
Could the likes of your Clares Tipperarys Wexfords be inspired by this or will hurling always reign supreme?
Tyrone should definitely be aiming to win an all Ireland in the next 3 years.
Will McGeeney and McGuinness change their style of play?.... looks like they have no alternative.
dont care about Jim but if we want to succeed we will need a rethink on our tactics
Funny McGeeney was saying on the OTB final special "there is no defending now its a shootout" ok so why not play that way.
I think its difficult to take mayos 2pt approach as fans may get nervy, then that can feed bk to team BUT if your plan is "play the 2pt percentages" you can relax a bit knowing itll come good.
Also, teams who are playing this strategy are going to get more efficient and confident over time.
Dunno if im mis interpreting that, but how many teams have blasted numerous 2 point attempts into the nearest field and totally retreated into their shells? More than those waiting / hoping for it to come good id say - hoping for the best isn't a good strategy for success.
Yes its a high risk high trust thing. Andy clearly told them they are good enough and keep hitting. But the rewards are huge.
Carney then ROD two in a row 2 pts were massive. Note they also hit from the "hill hotspot" were Clifford hit his in 2nd half.
Im not surprised someones done it as math is fairly obvious.
Quote from: bennydorano on July 28, 2026, 11:35:28 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 10:10:45 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 28, 2026, 08:42:28 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 27, 2026, 11:02:42 PMCould the fairytale stories of Mayo and Wicklow winning inspire other counties?
Could the likes of your Clares Tipperarys Wexfords be inspired by this or will hurling always reign supreme?
Tyrone should definitely be aiming to win an all Ireland in the next 3 years.
Will McGeeney and McGuinness change their style of play?.... looks like they have no alternative.
dont care about Jim but if we want to succeed we will need a rethink on our tactics
Funny McGeeney was saying on the OTB final special "there is no defending now its a shootout" ok so why not play that way.
I think its difficult to take mayos 2pt approach as fans may get nervy, then that can feed bk to team BUT if your plan is "play the 2pt percentages" you can relax a bit knowing itll come good.
Also, teams who are playing this strategy are going to get more efficient and confident over time.
Dunno if im mis interpreting that, but how many teams have blasted numerous 2 point attempts into the nearest field and totally retreated into their shells? More than those waiting / hoping for it to come good id say - hoping for the best isn't a good strategy for success.
Meath last year stands out. Sometimes I wish Armagh would take more risks with 2 pointers, any county player worth his salt should be nailing most of them
They had a mental strength about them on sunday. Despite any misses they just kept going. I think your man Kobe's mentality feeds into it. He misses and just ploughs on and then eventually gets one.
Kerry missed a few - Sean O'Shea in particular - and it just drained them.
It is another game that when the going got tough for Kerry then they were found wanting.
On another note Clifford's goal was more or less exactly the same as his cork goal. Obviously a training drill one.
Its not so much mental strength as new rules meaning you will score heavily if you get it to your scorers.
Listen to "Kobeirne" interviews. He found a way to take weight off them and let them express themselves. Positivity and no fear.
Andy and Tally had a pic of Moynihan being surrounded by Tyrone in 2003 in dressing room. Andy is fking great, he just tells all...very refreshing.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
Radio Kerry
https://x.com/radiokerrysport/status/2081767707398021392/mediaViewer?currentTweet=2081767707398021392¤tTweetUser=radiokerrysport
Quote from: phpearse on July 28, 2026, 12:05:32 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
Joe Brolly was very critical. He insulted the forwards in 2012. A lot of pundits didn't take them seriously especially after 2021.
https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/monday-morning-with-mayo-andy-moran-colm-boyle-on/id1770324019?i=1000778586409
In finals they were a disaster though. They scored two own goals in one half of football - when or where have you ever seen that before. I firmly believe no 5 in row for Dubs if they'd met them at semi final stage or before rather than the final.
2021 was actually the main one that would stand out. They just looked like there was zero belief. Tyrone had about 4 points out of their full back line and Mayo could barely score that anywhere.
Brolly just jumps on anything positive and negative.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2026, 01:24:35 PMIn finals they were a disaster though. They scored two own goals in one half of football - when or where have you ever seen that before. I firmly believe no 5 in row for Dubs if they'd met them at semi final stage or before rather than the final.
2021 was actually the main one that would stand out. They just looked like there was zero belief. Tyrone had about 4 points out of their half back line and Mayo could barely score that anywhere.
Brolly just jumps on anything positive and negative.
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2026, 12:22:38 PMQuote from: phpearse on July 28, 2026, 12:05:32 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
Joe Brolly was very critical. He insulted the forwards in 2012. A lot of pundits didn't take them seriously especially after 2021.
Haven't heard Brolly mentioned in a long time. He's been out of the limelight - unlike him!
Brolly 2012
https://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=22097.msg1162154#msg1162154
David Brady
https://x.com/offtheball/status/2082099328458330528/mediaViewer
Geaney was a huge loss. Lack of concentration from Tomas Kennedy and others given Sean O Briens signature move hovering outside small paralleogram. Geaney would be all over this.
Flick of a wrist shes in back of the net and Kerry up by 1.
SOUND ON
https://www.tiktok.com/@kianlacchia_media/video/7666884568506666263?_r=1&_t=ZN-98PghKTkiaE
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2026, 05:16:48 PMQuote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on June 20, 2026, 05:14:55 PMThis is some statement by Kerry.
Galway the only team I can see giving them a game of it if they are fully clicking.
Galway the only team that could match them talent wise. But have they the coaching to do it. Keeper problems too.
Mayo ironically might have the fire power to take them if absolutely everything went right for them but unlikely.
Looking like another Kerry all ireland win.
Seen this Mayo win coming just after Kerry hammered Armagh albeit with little confidence
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 12:02:25 PMAndy and Tally had a pic of Moynihan being surrounded by Tyrone in 2003 in dressing room. Andy is fking great, he just tells all...very refreshing.
Dara Ó Cinnéide, no?
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 10:10:45 AMFunny McGeeney was saying on the OTB final special "there is no defending now its a shootout" ok so why not play that way.
Armagh the last two years have defended like defending doesn't matter and it's a fact that Mayo forwards on Sunday and other recent games have defended and tackled better than Armagh defenders.
The one true remark from McGeeney said on that OTB final special is that every player would like to win the All-Ireland however you need to want to win it.
Mayo after leaving a few All-Ireland titles behind especially 1996,2016 finally got a group together where everything fell into place and one little wobble aside they showed how much they wanted to win in the 2nd half.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 28, 2026, 04:57:37 PMArmagh the last two years have defended like defending doesn't matter and it's a fact that Mayo forwards on Sunday and other recent games have defended and tackled better than Armagh defenders.
This. Put that on the changing room wall.
https://x.com/CraicOfTheAsh/status/2081423581322399869
Quote from: gallsman on July 28, 2026, 04:53:11 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 12:02:25 PMAndy and Tally had a pic of Moynihan being surrounded by Tyrone in 2003 in dressing room. Andy is fking great, he just tells all...very refreshing.
Dara Ó Cinnéide, no?
Thats what was cited by I think Maurice Brosnan who said Mayo reminded him of Tyrone 03 and Andy M sort of snapped at him "who the fk told ye that" then he caught himself.
I did look for a photo but couldnt find one. There is one of Brosnan and others.
James Horan said he saw one photo of Mayo players and you cant even see the kerry man in the middle of it. Would love to see which pic he was on about.
This was apparently on the back of the Mayo dressing room door on Sunday.
(https://i.ibb.co/kVCnJFXS/HORCTQZX0-AETTd-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2042SBdk)
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 06:06:12 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 28, 2026, 04:53:11 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 12:02:25 PMAndy and Tally had a pic of Moynihan being surrounded by Tyrone in 2003 in dressing room. Andy is fking great, he just tells all...very refreshing.
Dara Ó Cinnéide, no?
Thats what was cited by I think Maurice Brosnan who said Mayo reminded him of Tyrone 03 and Andy M sort of snapped at him "who the fk told ye that" then he caught himself.
I did look for a photo but couldnt find one. There is one of Brosnan and others.
James Horan said he saw one photo of Mayo players and you cant even see the kerry man in the middle of it. Would love to see which pic he was on about.
This video has Tyrone vs Kerry and Mayo vs Kerry
https://x.com/colmurphy97/status/2082124271879352654
Tyrones was far more intense due to old rules, absolutely comical in a way like bumper cars. 7 point win on 03.
Mayo have to do it very cleverly, to avoid lines being broken in slightly more open space. So arguably more impressive.
Note if you watch back 03 kerry made a huge number of "unforced" errors v similar to Sunday...and its because of intensity creates urgency they werent used to.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 06:06:12 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 28, 2026, 04:53:11 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 12:02:25 PMAndy and Tally had a pic of Moynihan being surrounded by Tyrone in 2003 in dressing room. Andy is fking great, he just tells all...very refreshing.
Dara Ó Cinnéide, no?
Thats what was cited by I think Maurice Brosnan who said Mayo reminded him of Tyrone 03 and Andy M sort of snapped at him "who the fk told ye that" then he caught himself.
I did look for a photo but couldnt find one. There is one of Brosnan and others.
James Horan said he saw one photo of Mayo players and you cant even see the kerry man in the middle of it. Would love to see which pic he was on about.
I'd say this one.
https://x.com/ballsdotie/status/2081501166341333491?s=46
Cheers. Saw ROD going around with a Mayo flag worn like a cape and thought it fitting.
https://x.com/RussWalt81/status/2082139190670872622
Here its Mayo time, not everything going bck to Tyrone!!
Quote from: weareros on July 28, 2026, 07:45:52 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 06:06:12 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 28, 2026, 04:53:11 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 12:02:25 PMAndy and Tally had a pic of Moynihan being surrounded by Tyrone in 2003 in dressing room. Andy is fking great, he just tells all...very refreshing.
Dara Ó Cinnéide, no?
Thats what was cited by I think Maurice Brosnan who said Mayo reminded him of Tyrone 03 and Andy M sort of snapped at him "who the fk told ye that" then he caught himself.
I did look for a photo but couldnt find one. There is one of Brosnan and others.
James Horan said he saw one photo of Mayo players and you cant even see the kerry man in the middle of it. Would love to see which pic he was on about.
I'd say this one.
https://x.com/ballsdotie/status/2081501166341333491?s=46
That's the one where Clifford took the box I think? Has there been a replay of it yet?
Christ after that Midwest commentary, Mayo should be made give back Sam. The two men sounded like they were trapped in a field with a maniacal bull charging at them. The pity its gone global with Tommy goals passing the ball over the bar (better safe than sorry as the man sez) when Kobe could have scored one of the most sensational goals in GAA history for the global audience.
Yeah the only bum note. Jack Carney clipped a peach of a ball up to McBrien and it was one of Mayos best moves. It might have been a palmed in basketball finish so very fitting.
Jimmy ODonoghue be ragin a fisted point going viral!
Kevin Cassidy
https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/gaelic-football/kevin-cassidy-mayo-people-and-andy-moran-believed-when-no-one-else-did-GBVJD4QPX5E6JOAHX4QKZPFPRY/
What we've been told doesn't work - pressing up high, being bold, taking on lower percentage shots - the All-Ireland final blew it all out of the water.
Quote from: weareros on July 28, 2026, 08:34:13 PMChrist after that Midwest commentary, Mayo should be made give back Sam. The two men sounded like they were trapped in a field with a maniacal bull charging at them. The pity its gone global with Tommy goals passing the ball over the bar (better safe than sorry as the man sez) when Kobe could have scored one of the most sensational goals in GAA history for the global audience.
Ah that commentary was deadly, one of the many highlights for me. The goal would have been perfect but the point was the right option, always a chance that balls intercepted and 10 seconds later Cliffords banging over a 2 pointer
How fitting for the gentleman that is Martin Carney, always so composed, losing his head!
The time he personally invested as a player and manager, in GAA in general.
He was born 1951, the year the curse descended. 75 years old now going viral with >20 million views I heard.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 09:55:39 PMHow fitting for the gentleman that is Martin Carney, always so composed, losing his head!
The time he personally invested as a player and manager, in GAA in general.
He was born 1951, the year the curse descended. 75 years old now going viral with >20 million views I heard.
Am I right in saying he's born and bred Donegal man who moved to Mayo in a teaching capacity then principal. Played for both Donegal and Mayo.
See video of a fairly fresh looking Audi all smashed up in Castlebar... too far lads too far.
Rewatched game and Mayos 5 Subs did a lot
Conroy scored 2 points left 2 and maybe a goal behind. So strong and mad for road.
Conor Loftus never set a foot wrong when introduced, setup a Kobe pt with some nice interplay. Incredible his link with 1951 team[grandnephew of Dr Mick Loftus who died 2023].
Mattie Ruane lost possession carelessly again but did make a crucial turnover, ROD cynically fouled as Kerry were open. ROD then missed 2pt free. Odd Kobe didnt take it off ground.
Durcan had a 4 min dander must have been surreal given the efforts hes put in before.
Brickenden tagged Paudi did ok.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 28, 2026, 10:00:17 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 09:55:39 PMHow fitting for the gentleman that is Martin Carney, always so composed, losing his head!
The time he personally invested as a player and manager, in GAA in general.
He was born 1951, the year the curse descended. 75 years old now going viral with >20 million views I heard.
Am I right in saying he's born and bred Donegal man who moved to Mayo in a teaching capacity then principal. Played for both Donegal and Mayo.
Born in Donegal but his father was from Mayo
His Uncle was on the Mayo 1936 winning team and trained the 1950 and 1951 teams
IIRC, when he moved to Mayo first he played for Islandeady but transferred to Castlebar Mitchel's shortly afterwards. Think he taught all the Hardy Bucks in Swinford
If the charts are still on the go you'd think the Saw Doctors will be at number 1 this week.
Quote from: square_ball on July 29, 2026, 08:35:51 AMIf the charts are still on the go you'd think the Saw Doctors will be at number 1 this week.
The Green and Red of Mayo has shot to the top of the Irish Spotify charts.
Written in 1990 after the band had played a festival on Clare Island, off Mayo.
"It was beautiful weather, a cloudless, warm sunny day," Ollie Jennings, the band's manager, told media. "We started writing a poem on the boat with Gerry Mulholland. Davy put music to it, and we had a song shortly afterwards."
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 29, 2026, 08:56:37 AMQuote from: square_ball on July 29, 2026, 08:35:51 AMIf the charts are still on the go you'd think the Saw Doctors will be at number 1 this week.
The Green and Red of Mayo has shot to the top of the Irish Spotify charts.
Written in 1990 after the band had played a festival on Clare Island, off Mayo.
"It was beautiful weather, a cloudless, warm sunny day," Ollie Jennings, the band's manager, told media. "We started writing a poem on the boat with Gerry Mulholland. Davy put music to it, and we had a song shortly afterwards."
Great stuff. Ace tune.
Quote from: whitey on July 29, 2026, 12:26:37 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 28, 2026, 10:00:17 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 28, 2026, 09:55:39 PMHow fitting for the gentleman that is Martin Carney, always so composed, losing his head!
The time he personally invested as a player and manager, in GAA in general.
He was born 1951, the year the curse descended. 75 years old now going viral with >20 million views I heard.
Am I right in saying he's born and bred Donegal man who moved to Mayo in a teaching capacity then principal. Played for both Donegal and Mayo.
Born in Donegal but his father was from Mayo
His Uncle was on the Mayo 1936 winning team and trained the 1950 and 1951 teams
IIRC, when he moved to Mayo first he played for Islandeady but transferred to Castlebar Mitchel's shortly afterwards. Think he taught all the Hardy Bucks in Swinford
Ballyshannon man, but like Michael Murphy and Paul Durcan, father was from Mayo.
Think he's been in Mayo since his mid-20s and is basically a Mayo man at this point.
That said, he'll always be a legend in Donegal. He won our first ever Ulster title under and with McEniff in '72, with a follow up in '74. Was also part of the great St Joseph's team back when Ballyshannon and Bundoran amalgamated for a decade or so (they're the only Donegal team apart from Gaoth Dobhair in the last decade to win Ulster Club).
Quote from: phpearse on July 28, 2026, 12:05:32 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Quote from: Tubberman on July 29, 2026, 01:06:58 PMQuote from: phpearse on July 28, 2026, 12:05:32 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
Mayo were not "the second greatest team evah". They definitely beat themselves in a few.
Its why 2021 was first time Tyrone folk were confident of a win.
Tyrone had excellent sides losing in 2 finals before breaking through. The sheer desperation to win just one we can relate to.
Only 2 of Mayo 2021 side started 2026 final with 4 off bench. Incredible and hope Tyrone take heed given our supposed "conveyor belt".
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 29, 2026, 01:17:18 PMQuote from: Tubberman on July 29, 2026, 01:06:58 PMQuote from: phpearse on July 28, 2026, 12:05:32 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 29, 2026, 01:19:52 PMMayo were not "the second greatest team evah". They definitely beat themselves in a few.
Its why 2021 was first time Tyrone folk were confident of a win.
Tyrone had excellent sides losing in 2 finals before breaking through. The sheer desperation to win just one we can relate to.
Only 2 of Mayo 2021 side started 2026 final with 4 off bench. Incredible and hope Tyrone take heed given our supposed "conveyor belt".
2018 and???
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Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. M
Jealous!!!
Sure we bet the sh1te out of them in the real thing.
Lucky for Mayowestros we didn't seriously partake in that All Ireland consolation competition or we'd have given them an even bigger batin.
Obv talking 1986 and 1995. Of 95 team only 1 man started 2003. Some interesting parallels with youth/old guard combo.
Its magic and Mayo should enjoy 75 days of partying at minimum
Quote from: Tubberman on July 29, 2026, 01:25:05 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 29, 2026, 01:17:18 PMQuote from: Tubberman on July 29, 2026, 01:06:58 PMQuote from: phpearse on July 28, 2026, 12:05:32 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2026/0727/1585248-castlebar-braced-for-monumental-mayo-homecoming/
I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
Ye are worthy champions Tubber and of course ye can only have massive pride in what that team achieved on Sunday. Winning Sam has been a noose around yer neck for so long and the outpouring of emotion has been great to see, especially from the older supporters who have suffered for so long. All the hoodoo BS is gone now, no burden of historic failure for the new generation.
I hope our gang give ye a guard of honour in the league next year to mark the achievement and then bate the shite out of ye! But enough about next year, enjoy the weeks and months of celebrations, nothing will ever top this win. Comhghairdeas
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I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
After 2021-I had officially given up
The 2 preventable (soft) goals followed by the missed penalty were more than I could take (after 2017)
I had actually planned to go for a 2 hour hike last Sunday and leave my phone in the car and check the score when I got back.
Luckily my sons persuaded me to bring them into Boston and watch it in a pub.
When Flynn hit the crossbar and Kerry went down the pitch for a 2 pointer-I got that old familiar feeling. I went outside the bar....just couldn't take it any more
DOC was interviewed and he actually left the stand and retreated to the dressing room for the last 10 minutes-LOL-and lo and behold - COC was already there watching on a TV.
Once the final point was scored the ran back out to celebrate after all the heartache over the years
Quote from: weareros on July 28, 2026, 08:34:13 PMChrist after that Midwest commentary, Mayo should be made give back Sam. The two men sounded like they were trapped in a field with a maniacal bull charging at them. The pity its gone global with Tommy goals passing the ball over the bar (better safe than sorry as the man sez) when Kobe could have scored one of the most sensational goals in GAA history for the global audience.
LOL! The gentlemen doing the play by play seem to have forgotten that fans might be listening who needed the game described to them in a coherent way that they could understand. Clifford WIDE, that's all I could comprehend and I had the advantage of seeing the final 2 minutes.
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I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
After 2021-I had officially given up
The 2 preventable (soft) goals followed by the missed penalty were more than I could take (after 2017)
I had actually planned to go for a 2 hour hike last Sunday and leave my phone in the car and check the score when I got back.
Luckily my sons persuaded me to bring them into Boston and watch it in a pub.
When Flynn hit the crossbar and Kerry went down the pitch for a 2 pointer-I got that old familiar feeling. I went outside the bar....just couldn't take it any more
DOC was interviewed and he actually left the stand and retreated to the dressing room for the last 10 minutes-LOL-and lo and behold - COC was already there watching on a TV.
Once the final point was scored the ran back out to celebrate after all the heartache over the years
you all, yes even you Whitey ;), deserve this. I am not surprised some of you had been ready to give up given all you have been through. Enjoy the celebrations for however long they last. Looking forward to welcoming you to the AG next year, Maybe you will have even sobered up by then
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I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
After 2021-I had officially given up
The 2 preventable (soft) goals followed by the missed penalty were more than I could take (after 2017)
I had actually planned to go for a 2 hour hike last Sunday and leave my phone in the car and check the score when I got back.
Luckily my sons persuaded me to bring them into Boston and watch it in a pub.
When Flynn hit the crossbar and Kerry went down the pitch for a 2 pointer-I got that old familiar feeling. I went outside the bar....just couldn't take it any more
DOC was interviewed and he actually left the stand and retreated to the dressing room for the last 10 minutes-LOL-and lo and behold - COC was already there watching on a TV.
Once the final point was scored the ran back out to celebrate after all the heartache over the years
you all, yes even you Whitey ;), deserve this. I am not surprised some of you had been ready to give up given all you have been through. Enjoy the celebrations for however long they last. Looking forward to welcoming you to the AG next year, Maybe you will have even sobered up by then
Thank you
I can guarantee you one thing...if I hadn't quit drinking years ago, I would have been on the first plane out of Boston for Dublin on Sunday evening
E Fitzmaurice told a story about Clifford when he was first on the scene, how his strike of a ball reminded him of a pro golfer.
Anyone hear the whack ROD hit his 2pt effort in 1st half. Almost like he was angry the first one didnt go over.
Some guy uploaded RTE coverage with MidWest radio over it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FjMa-he40VE&t=2120s&pp=ygUXa2VycnkgbWF5byAyMDI2IG1pZHdlc3Q%3D
https://x.com/amanpour/status/2082530486438539738/mediaViewer?currentTweet=2082530486438539738¤tTweetUser=amanpour
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I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
I had my young daughter at the AI final in 2021. Her first ever time in CP and only her second maybe third Tyrone game in total. She was absolutely blow away. The problem was she just thought that was the normal. She hadn't experienced any of the pain, disappointment and utter despair of the years when things went wrong. Talk about setting up false expectations!
Unfortunately she's had a few years since to give her a bit more of a grounding on expectations. Often think that it would have been better to get her through a few barren years first to understand how big it is to win, to fully comprehend the occasion. Without the pain, I'm not sure the joy would taste as sweet as you can see over the last week or so.
I have to say, she was so invested in Mayo this year, that it was nearly as good as 21 for her.
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I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
I had my young daughter at the AI final in 2021. Her first ever time in CP and only her second maybe third Tyrone game in total. She was absolutely blow away. The problem was she just thought that was the normal. She hadn't experienced any of the pain, disappointment and utter despair of the years when things went wrong. Talk about setting up false expectations!
Unfortunately she's had a few years since to give her a bit more of a grounding on expectations. Often think that it would have been better to get her through a few barren years first to understand how big it is to win, to fully comprehend the occasion. Without the pain, I'm not sure the joy would taste as sweet as you can see over the last week or so.
I have to say, she was so invested in Mayo this year, that it was nearly as good as 21 for her.
Ah you definitely need that hurt. 2002 we'd been knocking on the door for a few years but had a couple of Ulsters to keep us happy which was great. 2024 I always had a feeling since the 2021 Monaghan game that we weren't a million miles off the big boys but needed to kick on and obviously that bit of luck to go on a run, add the 4 heartbreaks on penalties and then the relief to win the big one was unreal.
Mayo's hurt has to be on a different level, managed to lose finals in any was conceivable between own goals and red cards and missed chances, add in talk of curses etc and the joy they'll have felt on Sunday is amazing
Cheers for all the accolades here lads and lassies.
I'm just about alive but still buzzing.
Best days of our lives. I felt something was stirring after Clones with this absolutely brilliant bunch of young lads led by Andy and his crew.
Thanks again all, the wests awake.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/07/30/final-was-the-greatest-sporting-occasion-ill-ever-attend-how-could-anything-beat-it/
Conversation turned, inevitably, to Kobe.
"We saw his auld fellah in Sligo last week, working away. Sure he still looks like he could play."
It was just the sort of myth-building – an interaction at a distance – you'd got used to hearing about Ciarán McDonald. I'd got a little closer to McDonald père that morning in the hotel, for the first time since we interviewed him on RTÉ television 12 years ago.
I shook his hand and told him we'd never had a reaction to an interview like it. He nodded shyly and said some nice things. Then I asked him if he fancied a sequel, and he hugged me and politely, warmly, declined.
In the days after that programme we were sent a photo of a pub in Achill, taken from behind the bar while the interview was on. There were seven men along the counter, all turned around in their seats to find out just what Ciarán McDonald sounded like, as they'd never heard him speak before.
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The whole tableau spoke to the enormity of Mayo as a county, and the enormity of football within it. The enigma of McDonald, the unknowability of him, seemed to sum up the ethereal, complicated nature of the game in the place. There was always something cinematic about Ciarán and Mayo. And now Kobe is eternal.
If Mayo had spent the entire 75 years since 1951 doing nothing other than devising the best possible way to end the wait, they couldn't have come up with a better day than last Sunday. And as the celebrations continue, they are starting to realise that maybe the feeling won't ever go away.
Quote from: highorlow on July 30, 2026, 09:52:41 AMCheers for all the accolades here lads and lassies.
I'm just about alive but still buzzing.
Best days of our lives. I felt something was stirring after Clones with this absolutely brilliant bunch of young lads led by Andy and his crew.
Thanks again all, the wests awake.
Watched it back with Midwest commentary last night and Martin Carney bullishness during the game was amazing. "Kerry are rattled" said a few times, and he was right.
"Kobe Baby" and the "Kerrymen are like jellyfish waiting to sting, one got me on beach other evening"
When you look back they looked positively pedestrian, entirely reliant on the Wizard to conjure something.
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I don't get this line from some of the Mayo ones. No one was laughing at Mayo over the years. They were just about the only team to go toe to toe with that Dubs team and come out with a lot of credit. Aside from the 04 and 06 finals, they were as good as team that played the game. I can see why Mayo management might say that behind closed doors to get players focussed but the reality is they were a very good side that just up against some other really good sides.
People absolutely were laughing and sneering at Mayo over the years.
There's been constant jibes and jokes at our expense and when you try to stick up for yourself as a Mayo person you were told to relax and it's only a joke.
Well listening to that for years and years from people who hardly kicked a ball themselves gets very hard to take, but there was nothing you could say, you just had to give a false smile and try to move the conversation on.
That has now all changed. I think Sunday has changed Mayo people, not just Mayo football.
As Jack Coyne said "Stick out your chest and be proud to be from Mayo".
Thank you Jack, Andy, all the players of 2026, and all the players and management over the years who all had to shoulder the same condescending comments and helped to bring us to where we are today - champions of Ireland.
Thanks also to all the posters on this board for their genuine congratulations and heartfelt tributes, it means a lot.
I'm soaking up every minute of these days, and I'm not being an ungracious winner, but I had to get that off my chest ;D
Ah thats class to read. You's deserve every minute of the celebrations- most of the stick is probably from jealous Rossies :D. Mayo were my second team for years if I'd to pick one, the f**k up in 2021 put me off them given who beat them that day but absolutely delighted for the whole county this week. Enjoy and look forward to welcoming you's all to Armagh in the league.
2021 broke the resolve of a lot of Mayo people, I wasn't sure I could ever let myself get as invested in it again after that loss.
Thank God I stuck with it, Sunday and the last couple of days have been unbelievable, the sheer joy is wonderful to see.
I think everyone is letting themselves truly enjoy it, there's no longer a risk of it somehow ending in disaster.
I had my young fella beside me in Croker, his first final and they win the thing - he has no idea the heartache he has been spared ;D
It's brilliant for him and all the youngsters coming up and who might be lucky enough to go on to represent Mayo - they will never have to play with that burden, they'll be judged on their own performances, not the weight of 75 years.
After 2021-I had officially given up
The 2 preventable (soft) goals followed by the missed penalty were more than I could take (after 2017)
I had actually planned to go for a 2 hour hike last Sunday and leave my phone in the car and check the score when I got back.
Luckily my sons persuaded me to bring them into Boston and watch it in a pub.
When Flynn hit the crossbar and Kerry went down the pitch for a 2 pointer-I got that old familiar feeling. I went outside the bar....just couldn't take it any more
DOC was interviewed and he actually left the stand and retreated to the dressing room for the last 10 minutes-LOL-and lo and behold - COC was already there watching on a TV.
Once the final point was scored the ran back out to celebrate after all the heartache over the years
I'd given up on yez as well after the '21 final!
But fair fucks to your young lads. You have to watch, just in case. My auld lad couldn't take the stress and fear in '92 and missed a big chunk of the final that year. Regretted it ever after.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Read an article yesterday basically dissecting this Mayo curse. Every avenue blocked off. Did any of the men of 51 actually say this funeral thing happened?
Australia and NZ TV had reports about Mayo winning , but it wasn't really about Mayo winning the All Ireland, it was all about the curse
If this curse was indeed all nonsense, where the hell did it come from? Apparently there was no talk of any curse until the 90's.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 01:50:37 PMRead an article yesterday basically dissecting this Mayo curse. Every avenue blocked off. Did any of the men of 51 actually say this funeral thing happened?
Australia and NZ TV had reports about Mayo winning , but it wasn't really about Mayo winning the All Ireland, it was all about the curse
If this curse was indeed all nonsense, where the hell did it come from? Apparently there was no talk of any curse until the 90's.
Mayo didn't reach their next All-Ireland till 1989 so there wouldn't have been much talk of it. Paddy Prendergast's version of events is that they were stuck in the back of a lorry in Foxford and couldn't get out and there were people gathered around church but they didn't know there was a funeral going on.
https://youtu.be/kocuYdf5aOI?si=emgiWHuCq-jUlfp9
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 01:50:37 PMRead an article yesterday basically dissecting this Mayo curse. Every avenue blocked off. Did any of the men of 51 actually say this funeral thing happened?
Australia and NZ TV had reports about Mayo winning , but it wasn't really about Mayo winning the All Ireland, it was all about the curse
If this curse was indeed all nonsense, where the hell did it come from? Apparently there was no talk of any curse until the 90's.
I think it really took flight as a coping mechanism in the last decade where Mayo were repeatedly in finals and came off second best. In 2012 the ball had hardly been thrown in when they were 7 points down. In 2016 Cillian O'Connor missed a very late (score able) free to hand Sam to Dublin. In 2017 IIRC they were primed to win the game, but self destructed in many ways. They had also been in the 2013 final too which they lost by a point.
Tight margins separated them from major titles. And rather than maybe look at the fact that Mayo were generally second best, or that they let themselves down a bit at crucial moments, the spectre of "the curse" was an easier pill to swallow?
Quote from: weareros on July 30, 2026, 01:58:17 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 01:50:37 PMRead an article yesterday basically dissecting this Mayo curse. Every avenue blocked off. Did any of the men of 51 actually say this funeral thing happened?
Australia and NZ TV had reports about Mayo winning , but it wasn't really about Mayo winning the All Ireland, it was all about the curse
If this curse was indeed all nonsense, where the hell did it come from? Apparently there was no talk of any curse until the 90's.
Mayo didn't reach their next All-Ireland till 1989 so there wouldn't have been much talk of it. Paddy Prendergast's version of events is that they were stuck in the back of a lorry in Foxford and couldn't get out and there were people gathered around church but they didn't know there was a funeral going on.
https://youtu.be/kocuYdf5aOI?si=emgiWHuCq-jUlfp9
It was all pisreogs
My grandfathers first cousin was on the 1950/1951 team
Probably half the team were Pioneers
There were 3 Doctors on the team/panel
There was a priest on the team
This implied narrative of a gang of lads (probably full to the gills with drink) disrespecting a funeral is complete rubbish
I think talk of the curse came about when Clare won the hurling in 1995 and then when the ball hopped over the bar in 1996 it really gained steam.
I'm highly superstitious and actually started to believe it myself-that's there was some type of a hex on them. But to tie it to a specific event is rubbish
96 ball hop and 2016 Cillian O'Connor free are the 2 that got away in my view
Quote from: tiempo on July 30, 2026, 02:22:56 PM96 ball hop and 2016 Cillian O'Connor free are the 2 that got away in my view
Was 16 the year of the 2 own goals? Remember O'Connor scoring a brilliant point from play one year to either force extra time or a replay.
2016 and 17 sort of blurred into one for me
Quote from: tiempo on July 30, 2026, 02:22:56 PM96 ball hop and 2016 Cillian O'Connor free are the 2 that got away in my view
Donal Vaughan getting himself sent off in 2017 was the final straw for me.
They would have had a tap over free and an extra man for the final 20 minutes of the game (plus stoppage time)
Missing the penalty in 2021-I think you have to go back to Dublin in 1992 to find another missed penalty in an AIF
They were literally inventing new ways to loose matches
Quote from: tiempo on July 30, 2026, 02:22:56 PM96 ball hop and 2016 Cillian O'Connor free are the 2 that got away in my view
- Anthony Finnerty blasting wide in 89
- McHale (of all players) sent off was huge in 96
- Brogan goal Hill 16 end in 2013, and COC tapping over the late free
- Hennelly dropping ball, giving away the penalty in 2017?
But I think the two goals in 2016 was whenever I really thought they were jinxed. Dublin were poor that day , only managed 1 point in first half I think . Mayo better team and still couldn't put them away.
Quote from: whitey on July 30, 2026, 02:32:18 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 30, 2026, 02:22:56 PM96 ball hop and 2016 Cillian O'Connor free are the 2 that got away in my view
Donal Vaughan getting himself sent off in 2017 was the final straw for me.
They would have had a tap over free and an extra man for the final 20 minutes of the game (plus stoppage time)
Missing the penalty in 2021-I think you have to go back to Dublin in 1992 to find another missed penalty in an AIF
They were literally inventing new ways to loose matches
2002, but in fairness Oisin made up for it that day :D
Perhaps there was also a degree of manifesting the curse. As has been mentioned there were a laundry list of incidents that made a noticeable difference to the outcomes of finals. At a certain point that was likely to impact the players. For some reason there was a vintage of Mayo player that would crumble at a crucial moment and ultimately that meant they lost somewhere along the way (when there were less second chances).
They were a higher quality and better mentality version of the 2002-2009 Dublin Team. But the results were broadly the same.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 02:48:19 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 30, 2026, 02:22:56 PM96 ball hop and 2016 Cillian O'Connor free are the 2 that got away in my view
- Anthony Finnerty blasting wide in 89
- McHale (of all players) sent off was huge in 96
- Brogan goal Hill 16 end in 2013, and COC tapping over the late free
- Hennelly dropping ball, giving away the penalty in 2017?
But I think the two goals in 2016 was whenever I really thought they were jinxed. Dublin were poor that day , only managed 1 point in first half I think . Mayo better team and still couldn't put them away.
Dublin couldn't have played any worse in that 2016 drawn final yet the narrative a decade later was Mayo was playing the greatest team ever and drawing with them was acceptable.
Loads of what ifs and and when you look back and see how Mayo left All-Ireland titles behind them.
Law of averages Mayo was eventually going to win it. Next question on Mayo is can they prove to be great team with this group of players that have average age of 24,with no baggage and win more All-Ireland titles?
I don't think they'll go back to back, but that's no slight on them as it's extremely difficult to do. No reason they can't pick up another one or two over the next 5-6 years though, plenty of talent there. Unless they upset anyone with the celebrations and end up with none until Kobe and the rest are dead and gone
In one of these finals (they all blur into one) Gavin played a very poor forward line for Dublin when they had much better on the bench. I still believe no 5 in a row for Dublin if Mayo had played them at an earlier stage. At that stage if a team were on a reasonably even keel with Mayo in a final they would have beat them.
I don't think Mayo have a chance of back to back. Kerry will be sore next year and will be all out. Also while they shouldn't have won that match but they definitely could have and I would say that will fuel them on a bit too.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2026, 03:32:17 PMIn one of these finals (they all blur into one) Gavin played a very poor forward line for Dublin when they had much better on the bench. I still believe no 5 in a row for Dublin if Mayo had played them at an earlier stage. At that stage if a team were on a reasonably even keel with Mayo in a final they would have beat them.
I don't think Mayo have a chance of back to back. Kerry will be sore next year and will be all out. Also while they shouldn't have won that match but they definitely could have and I would say that will fuel them on a bit too.
Dublin were inherently unbeatable at the time. By 2015 they were either beating Mayo in the final or the Semi Final. And along the way Dublin would almost inevitably have one particular challange with Kerry or Donegal. Laying glove on Dublin became very difficult and Mayo were the closest.
Kerry will be looking to end the famine next year. But it will be another open championship with the new format increasing the chances of heavy weights knocking each other out sooner than expected, clearing the path for others.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2026, 03:32:17 PMIn one of these finals (they all blur into one) Gavin played a very poor forward line for Dublin when they had much better on the bench. I still believe no 5 in a row for Dublin if Mayo had played them at an earlier stage. At that stage if a team were on a reasonably even keel with Mayo in a final they would have beat them.
I don't think Mayo have a chance of back to back. Kerry will be sore next year and will be all out. Also while they shouldn't have won that match but they definitely could have and I would say that will fuel them on a bit too.
There are a number of teams not that different in calibre, the draw can catch you out and the compressed season can mean that injuries can just make the difference.
Paddy Power have 7 teams at 10/1 or less for next year; Kerry, Donegal, Mayo, Armagh, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway.
Of course, things may look different next June.
Delighted for Mayo people. Don't think it's an exaggeration to say this is life changing, in terms of how they feel about themselves and the injection of pride it will give. It is Mayo's 4th All-Ireland but it might as well be the first for the vast majority of their support. Like many others I'd given up on Mayo after 2021, and to put it bluntly didn't want to see them back in a final again. Easy to understand how any of their older supporters lost the will in recent years - there's just so many losses anyone can take. I remember being at the final against Donegal and thinking how passive and resigned the supporters seemed to be to defeat from early on. But the resilience of the players and the supporters to bounce back was always admirable. It could have been the undoing of many counties, setting them back a generation or two. To keep coming back and back and to get to so many AI finals over the past 20-30 years is remarkable really. Only Kerry or Dublin were in more? They will know they should have won a few of those. Mindset and poor decision making rather than lack of ability was probably a factor in a few of those finals (maybe the 'curse' got into players' heads after a while). A lack of enough top tier clinical forwards cost them too. But on Sunday it was plain to be seen that this batch of players were going to grab their chance and go for it with no regrets. Croke Park on AI final day is built for teams that play with no fear. Mayo typified this by their willingness to take players on. There were times when the obvious simple pop pass to the man running off the shoulder was on, but the man in possession drove on to create more danger, which would have unsettled Kerry (and any team) greatly. This was exemplified even in the very last play when the natural instinct would have been to just play the safe handpass to the nearest man, recycling the ball to eat down the clock. A Mayo player had the ball, the pass was on but checked back and moved it forward to Kobe, who again drove at the Kerry defence to set up the final score. Awesome stuff. Any supporter in any county would love their team to play like this.
Looks like the team is at the start of a journey rather than the end. It's usually the case that a team with such a young age profile will be at the business end of things for the next few years if they want it. Mayo abu!
Quote from: weareros on July 30, 2026, 04:14:02 PMKerry will be looking to end the famine next year. But it will be another open championship with the new format increasing the chances of heavy weights knocking each other out sooner than expected, clearing the path for others.
Next year
David Clifford 28 championship debut 2018.
Paudie Clifford 29 debut 2020.
Diarmuid O'Connor 28 debut 2019
Sean O'Shea 29 debut 2018
Mark O'Shea 29 debut 2025
Gavin White 30 debut 2018
Mike Breen 29 debut 2021
Graham O'Sullivan 29 debut 2019
Jason Foley 31 debut 2019
Paul Murphy 35 debut 2014
All in their late 20s early 30s with a lot of mileage in the legs. Mayo have showed what youth and freshness did and Kerry if still managed by Jack O'Connor will need to freshen things up starting a few of U20 All-Ireland winners in 2027.
Two All-Irelands is no bad return for most counties, but given it's Kerry and with all the underage success they had for a few years there, the likes of David Clifford and Seanie O'Shea might have hoped for another AI or two by this point.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 30, 2026, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: weareros on July 30, 2026, 04:14:02 PMKerry will be looking to end the famine next year. But it will be another open championship with the new format increasing the chances of heavy weights knocking each other out sooner than expected, clearing the path for others.
Next year
David Clifford 28 championship debut 2018.
Paudie Clifford 29 debut 2020.
Diarmuid O'Connor 28 debut 2019
Sean O'Shea 29 debut 2018
Mark O'Shea 29 debut 2025
Gavin White 30 debut 2018
Mike Breen 29 debut 2021
Graham O'Sullivan 29 debut 2019
Jason Foley 31 debut 2019
Paul Murphy 35 debut 2014
All in their late 20s early 30s with a lot of mileage in the legs. Mayo have showed what youth and freshness did and Kerry if still managed by Jack O'Connor will need to freshen things up starting a few of U20 All-Ireland winners in 2027.
28 or 29 isn't old ffs.
Loads more in all of those boys and bar Murphy would expect them all to finish up with about 3 more.
Quote from: weareros on July 30, 2026, 04:14:02 PMKerry will be looking to end the famine next year. But it will be another open championship with the new format increasing the chances of heavy weights knocking each other out sooner than expected, clearing the path for others.
While I'm yet to be won over by the new format , the fact that a few of big hitters (Donegal, Armagh, Galway etc) went out early enough this year , due to quick turnaround, injuries, away fixture etc , made it more likely that another team can come through the side door with a more favourable draw. In this case , Mayo (and Louth).
Different semi finalists, finalists and ultimately new/newish winners can only be a very good thing for the game.
Apart from the recent finals there were some crazy and insane near misses when it came to players
Dermot Earley's father got a teaching job one mile over the Roscommon border in Gortaghanny-Demot himself was born in Castlebar
Jimmy Duggan of Galway was living in Claremorris and was overlooked for the Mayo minors....Galway then swooped in
When Mayo finally beat Galway in the 1960s they had a semi final lined up against Meath. Of course their best player came down with appendicitis and couldn't play (Garda John Morley)
Ted Webb-the Kobe of his day....killed by a freight train operating off schedule
Padraig Brogan and Gerry Geraghty from the 1983 team
Anyone catch footage of McBriens(?) hit on Clifford.
Some boos for the Coyne hit so maybe they didnt want another on big screen?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 30, 2026, 04:48:07 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on July 30, 2026, 04:38:38 PMQuote from: weareros on July 30, 2026, 04:14:02 PMKerry will be looking to end the famine next year. But it will be another open championship with the new format increasing the chances of heavy weights knocking each other out sooner than expected, clearing the path for others.
Next year
David Clifford 28 championship debut 2018.
Paudie Clifford 29 debut 2020.
Diarmuid O'Connor 28 debut 2019
Sean O'Shea 29 debut 2018
Mark O'Shea 29 debut 2025
Gavin White 30 debut 2018
Mike Breen 29 debut 2021
Graham O'Sullivan 29 debut 2019
Jason Foley 31 debut 2019
Paul Murphy 35 debut 2014
All in their late 20s early 30s with a lot of mileage in the legs. Mayo have showed what youth and freshness did and Kerry if still managed by Jack O'Connor will need to freshen things up starting a few of U20 All-Ireland winners in 2027.
28 or 29 isn't old ffs.
Loads more in all of those boys and bar Murphy would expect them all to finish up with about 3 more.
Add in the mileage in legs. In what is sure to remain very open championship in the years ahead and All-Ireland titles spread out among counties I would think one more will be won by Kerry and for anymore it will require the help of youth and freshness.
Would be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
Meath will surely encouraged by this year. Definite dark horse contender.
They should be able to win one more.
They have a lot of talent and a good manager.
I wonder how Meath will get on.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2026, 07:39:23 PMWould be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
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Wash out your mouth ;D
While I can live with Ballagh rhubarbs celebrating but the sight the Ros media outlets and others from Ros (GAA people, ex Councillors from other areas..)whom I won't name and shame giddy with excitement all week is appalling.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 30, 2026, 09:18:52 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2026, 07:39:23 PMWould be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
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Wash out your mouth ;D
While I can live with Ballagh rhubarbs celebrating but the sight the Ros media outlets and others from Ros (GAA people, ex Councillors from other areas..)whom I won't name and shame giddy with excitement all week is appalling.
Would Sam heading over the Shannon to a Connacht county not be as significant as Down bringing Sam over the border for the first time in 1960?
A Mayo win is a win for Connacht? No?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 30, 2026, 09:18:52 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2026, 07:39:23 PMWould be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
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Wash out your mouth ;D
While I can live with Ballagh rhubarbs celebrating but the sight the Ros media outlets and others from Ros (GAA people, ex Councillors from other areas..)whom I won't name and shame giddy with excitement all week is appalling.
When Galway won in 98 John OMahony brought Sam to Ballagh.
The Roscommon people was in Ballyhaunis. The excitement . I hope it inspires the Rossies.
https://x.com/RoscommonPeople/status/2082231707106005052
At least they left one Roscommon flag up in my hometown, on Dillon House. Lookit, let the Mayo people of the town enjoy it. We'll lie low for now but we'll always be proud Ros and sure maybe one day we'll bring Sam to the Square too.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/07/29/darragh-o-se-on-mayos-win-why-did-i-get-it-wrong-and-predict-a-kerry-victory/
Darragh Ó Sé: Why were we all so wrong with our Mayo predictions? I think there are a few reasons
There is no question Mayo were the best team in the All-Ireland – Kerry were fighting an uphill battle for fitness all year and it told
Mayo deserve to be All-Ireland champions. We all got our predictions wrong and so now they're spending the week painting Castlebar and Ballyhaunis and Belmullet green and red. And more luck to them. The best team wins the All-Ireland and they showed themselves to be the best team, no question about it.
In Kerry, these days hurt. Of course they do. Nobody has lost more All-Ireland finals than we have and it never gets any easier. Happy and all as you'd be for Mayo people this week, it's still never a good day when you lose an All-Ireland final. Especially one we all thought we should be winning.
It was very obvious where Mayo could hurt Kerry. We all said it. We knew the inside line of Darragh Beirne, Kobe McDonald and Ryan O'Donoghue would fancy themselves against the Kerry full-back line. We knew they would press high and try to disrupt Kerry. We knew they would try to score as many two-pointers as they could. Mayo didn't pull any rabbits out of a hat on Sunday.
So why were we all so wrong with our predictions? I think there are a few reasons. One, I think we underestimated the strength of their win over Louth. I know I definitely did. I didn't give Mayo enough credit for how they blew Louth away – and I probably didn't give Louth enough credit for being there in the first place, having beaten Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan.
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We were too quick to dismiss the high press. I think a lot of us just presumed Kerry would play their way around it; that they would kick through the lines and move the ball quickly and get up the pitch and do damage. It's all very well pressing high when it's working but if the opposition is able to play around your press, you can run out of steam doing it very quickly.
Mayo had done their homework. They wanted Paul Murphy getting on the ball so that they could go after him. I thought Paul did pretty well coming out with it but he needed help. Mayo just went after him and after fouling him the first few times, eventually they suckered him into overcarrying. That gave them huge energy and showed that this high press could work.
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Contrast that with the way Ryan O'Donoghue managed to get past three Kerry tacklers to start the move that led to the goal. If you want a montage of clips to tell the story of where this final was won and lost, you'd have O'Donoghue and the boys turning over Paul Murphy in one clip and then O'Donoghue streaking away from Joe O'Connor in the next.
Mayo's Ryan O'Donoghue streaking away from Kerry players was one of the enduring images from the match. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho
That was the difference between the two teams. Mayo tackled like demons, they pinned Kerry in and even when a Kerry defender got out of a tackle and into space, he was wrecked from the effort. O'Donoghue dodged around Mark O'Shea, Seán O'Brien and Joe O'Connor and then when he got into space, he was able to leave the three of them for dead. He had to be pinching himself and wondering: "Was that really that easy?"
It was. O'Donoghue got the same treatment from Kerry that Paudie Clifford got from Donegal last year. Nobody tagged him and he made full use of his freedom.
Like any Kerry manager who loses an All-Ireland, Jack O'Connor has been getting it in the neck a bit down here over the past couple of days. But I don't think he could have done much once the game started on Sunday. It seemed to me he was fighting an uphill battle all year.
The difference between the level of physical output Mayo and Kerry were capable of in the final was obvious to everybody. Joe O'Connor, Gavin White, Seánie O'Shea – none of these lads had anything like the energy they brought to last year's final. Think of Gavin White 12 months ago, bursting on to everything and blowing Donegal away. He just didn't have it in the legs this time around.
If the Kerry management have questions to answer, that's where they are. There was a fuel crisis in the Kerry squad and it came to the fore on the worst possible day. Why was that allowed to happen? What went wrong? Was it avoidable?
Kerry's Gavin White is tackled by Mayo's Kobe McDonald during the All-Ireland final on Sunday. Photograph: James Crombie/Inpho
I think everyone assumed after beating Dublin that they were coming good at the right time, that all the injuries had more or less cleared up and now they'd be able to play with a bit of freedom and let the handbrake off. But there's no substitute for playing football and some of the Kerry players just missed too much of it this year.
Kerry didn't get much of a bounce off the bench. Too many of their starting players didn't perform. David Clifford and Paudie Clifford fought all the way to the end but the reality is that the final came down to the same thing it always comes down to: how many Mayo players played above themselves compared to Kerry players? I think you would probably get well into double figures if you went through it.
It reminded me a bit of the 2002 final against Armagh. We came off the pitch that day feeling like no matter how hard we pushed, the Armagh players pushed back harder. The more you went at it, the more it felt like you were trying to beat back the tide. They grew and they found energy where they didn't have energy. And Kerry were overwhelmed by it.
The likes of Seánie O'Shea didn't have anything like the energy they brought to last year's final. Photograph: Tom O'Hanlon/Inpho
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Mayo looked at Kerry and saw that they had been playing at a slower pace this year compared to last year and made the decision to ramp the whole thing up as much as they could. Kerry want to play slow? Well, let's not give them the choice. Let's see how they react to high energy, high pace, plenty of hits and annoyance. They got their reward for it and they won their All-Ireland.
Kerry had injuries through the year and they ended up in an All-Ireland final with players who didn't have the legs for Mayo. No point crying about it. There's no great mystery about what comes next – you find players who are fit or you mind the ones you have. Either way, it's the obvious starting point for next year.
For now, there's nothing for it but to congratulate Mayo. Everyone is delighted for them, even in Kerry. Apart from anything else, we've all decided down here that since we can't make Mayo jokes any more, we'll have to transfer them all across to Cork.
Absolutely disgraceful carry on if true
https://x.com/VideosIrish/status/2082913802421457343?s=20
Quote from: whitey on July 30, 2026, 09:57:01 PMAbsolutely disgraceful carry on if true
https://x.com/VideosIrish/status/2082913802421457343?s=20
Have you seen the video of him trying to steal the Sam Maguire from the steward that was showing it to kids- absolute clown!
To be fair the stage is only rated for 150 ton. There are some specimens among the Mayo folk
Quote from: sans pessimism on July 30, 2026, 10:12:42 PMQuote from: whitey on July 30, 2026, 09:57:01 PMAbsolutely disgraceful carry on if true
https://x.com/VideosIrish/status/2082913802421457343?s=20
Have you seen the video of him trying to steal the Sam Maguire from the steward that was showing it to kids- absolute clown!
Didn't see that
I did heard that the fellas who destroyed the Audi in Castlebar on Sunday night were actually the owners of the car
(Family member heard this directly from a Guard)
I heard Cillian O Connor stayed in dressing room couldn't watch the match.
When Diarmuid came off he went into dressing room to find Cillian and stayed there until Tommy Conroy had the ball over the bar.
Then they sprinted out.
[Source Tommy OTB]
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 09:24:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 30, 2026, 09:18:52 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2026, 07:39:23 PMWould be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
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Wash out your mouth ;D
While I can live with Ballagh rhubarbs celebrating but the sight the Ros media outlets and others from Ros (GAA people, ex Councillors from other areas..)whom I won't name and shame giddy with excitement all week is appalling.
Would Sam heading over the Shannon to a Connacht county not be as significant as Down bringing Sam over the border for the first time in 1960?
A Mayo win is a win for Connacht? No?
NOOOO!!!!!
Its a win for themselves, good luck to them.
Quote from: weareros on July 30, 2026, 09:45:20 PMAt least they left one Roscommon flag up in my hometown, on Dillon House. Lookit, let the Mayo people of the town enjoy it. We'll lie low for now but we'll always be proud Ros and sure maybe one day we'll bring Sam to the Square too.
Don't be lying too low or they'll think we've been cowed.
No mention of Mayo in the Irish News today.
Ulster hoors have moved on.
Quote from: ONeill on July 30, 2026, 11:39:18 PMNo mention of Mayo in the Irish News today.
Ulster hoors have moved on.
Irish News coverage was excellent
Quote from: whitey on July 30, 2026, 10:21:59 PMQuote from: sans pessimism on July 30, 2026, 10:12:42 PMQuote from: whitey on July 30, 2026, 09:57:01 PMAbsolutely disgraceful carry on if true
https://x.com/VideosIrish/status/2082913802421457343?s=20
Have you seen the video of him trying to steal the Sam Maguire from the steward that was showing it to kids- absolute clown!
Didn't see that
I did heard that the fellas who destroyed the Audi in Castlebar on Sunday night were actually the owners of the car
(Family member heard this directly from a Guard)
ejits! Wasn't even an old banger
1-14 of Kerrys 1-17 came from Clifford(s) involvement.
Scary for Kerry
Quote from: ONeill on July 30, 2026, 11:39:18 PMNo mention of Mayo in the Irish News today.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 09:24:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 30, 2026, 09:18:52 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2026, 07:39:23 PMWould be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
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Wash out your mouth ;D
While I can live with Ballagh rhubarbs celebrating but the sight the Ros media outlets and others from Ros (GAA people, ex Councillors from other areas..)whom I won't name and shame giddy with excitement all week is appalling.
Would Sam heading over the Shannon to a Connacht county not be as significant as Down bringing Sam over the border for the first time in 1960?
A Mayo win is a win for Connacht? No?
Not in the same league. Down were the first team from the Northern sectarian state to win. It was hugely significant. Galway have brought 6 trophies to Connacht since 1980.
I think it has parallels with Sam going to Armagh in 2002.
Driving through Mayo is going to feel different now. Linking towns to GAA winners. Jack Coyne in Ballyhaunis, Kobe in Crossmolina and Ryan O Donoghue in Belmullet. Legends.
They'll be hanging up pictures of the team in the pubs like across the border in Milltown.
It's class.
Quote from: seafoid on July 31, 2026, 11:14:38 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2026, 09:24:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on July 30, 2026, 09:18:52 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2026, 07:39:23 PMWould be some laugh if Mayo went back to back.
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Wash out your mouth ;D
While I can live with Ballagh rhubarbs celebrating but the sight the Ros media outlets and others from Ros (GAA people, ex Councillors from other areas..)whom I won't name and shame giddy with excitement all week is appalling.
Would Sam heading over the Shannon to a Connacht county not be as significant as Down bringing Sam over the border for the first time in 1960?
A Mayo win is a win for Connacht? No?
Not in the same league. Down were the first team from the Northern sectarian state to win. It was hugely significant. Galway have brought 6 trophies to Connacht since 1980.
I think it has parallels with Sam going to Armagh in 2002.
I'd say Down in 1991 was more significant than Armagh in 2002. It suddenly gave belief to other Ulster counties after 30+ years of hammerings.
Perhaps Mayo's win will inspire the likes of Roscommon to similar success, like Downs win did for Ulster in the 90's. I would say Roscommon are at a similar level to what Donegal/Derry were in 1991. No reason why they (and Galway)can't draw inspiration from Mayo's win and go win Sam as well
Down's in 91 was more significant for everyone else other than Down I think in terms of giving belief to others and changing landscape. Armagh in 02 and Tyrone in 03 were more significant for the respective counties than for anyone else.
Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2026, 09:46:06 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/07/29/darragh-o-se-on-mayos-win-why-did-i-get-it-wrong-and-predict-a-kerry-victory/
Darragh Ó Sé: Why were we all so wrong with our Mayo predictions? I think there are a few reasons
There is no question Mayo were the best team in the All-Ireland – Kerry were fighting an uphill battle for fitness all year and it told
Mayo deserve to be All-Ireland champions. We all got our predictions wrong and so now they're spending the week painting Castlebar and Ballyhaunis and Belmullet green and red. And more luck to them. The best team wins the All-Ireland and they showed themselves to be the best team, no question about it.
In Kerry, these days hurt. Of course they do. Nobody has lost more All-Ireland finals than we have and it never gets any easier. Happy and all as you'd be for Mayo people this week, it's still never a good day when you lose an All-Ireland final. Especially one we all thought we should be winning.
It was very obvious where Mayo could hurt Kerry. We all said it. We knew the inside line of Darragh Beirne, Kobe McDonald and Ryan O'Donoghue would fancy themselves against the Kerry full-back line. We knew they would press high and try to disrupt Kerry. We knew they would try to score as many two-pointers as they could. Mayo didn't pull any rabbits out of a hat on Sunday.
So why were we all so wrong with our predictions? I think there are a few reasons. One, I think we underestimated the strength of their win over Louth. I know I definitely did. I didn't give Mayo enough credit for how they blew Louth away – and I probably didn't give Louth enough credit for being there in the first place, having beaten Dublin, Armagh and Monaghan.
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We were too quick to dismiss the high press. I think a lot of us just presumed Kerry would play their way around it; that they would kick through the lines and move the ball quickly and get up the pitch and do damage. It's all very well pressing high when it's working but if the opposition is able to play around your press, you can run out of steam doing it very quickly.
Mayo had done their homework. They wanted Paul Murphy getting on the ball so that they could go after him. I thought Paul did pretty well coming out with it but he needed help. Mayo just went after him and after fouling him the first few times, eventually they suckered him into overcarrying. That gave them huge energy and showed that this high press could work.
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Contrast that with the way Ryan O'Donoghue managed to get past three Kerry tacklers to start the move that led to the goal. If you want a montage of clips to tell the story of where this final was won and lost, you'd have O'Donoghue and the boys turning over Paul Murphy in one clip and then O'Donoghue streaking away from Joe O'Connor in the next.
Mayo's Ryan O'Donoghue streaking away from Kerry players was one of the enduring images from the match. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho
That was the difference between the two teams. Mayo tackled like demons, they pinned Kerry in and even when a Kerry defender got out of a tackle and into space, he was wrecked from the effort. O'Donoghue dodged around Mark O'Shea, Seán O'Brien and Joe O'Connor and then when he got into space, he was able to leave the three of them for dead. He had to be pinching himself and wondering: "Was that really that easy?"
It was. O'Donoghue got the same treatment from Kerry that Paudie Clifford got from Donegal last year. Nobody tagged him and he made full use of his freedom.
Like any Kerry manager who loses an All-Ireland, Jack O'Connor has been getting it in the neck a bit down here over the past couple of days. But I don't think he could have done much once the game started on Sunday. It seemed to me he was fighting an uphill battle all year.
The difference between the level of physical output Mayo and Kerry were capable of in the final was obvious to everybody. Joe O'Connor, Gavin White, Seánie O'Shea – none of these lads had anything like the energy they brought to last year's final. Think of Gavin White 12 months ago, bursting on to everything and blowing Donegal away. He just didn't have it in the legs this time around.
If the Kerry management have questions to answer, that's where they are. There was a fuel crisis in the Kerry squad and it came to the fore on the worst possible day. Why was that allowed to happen? What went wrong? Was it avoidable?
Kerry's Gavin White is tackled by Mayo's Kobe McDonald during the All-Ireland final on Sunday. Photograph: James Crombie/Inpho
I think everyone assumed after beating Dublin that they were coming good at the right time, that all the injuries had more or less cleared up and now they'd be able to play with a bit of freedom and let the handbrake off. But there's no substitute for playing football and some of the Kerry players just missed too much of it this year.
Kerry didn't get much of a bounce off the bench. Too many of their starting players didn't perform. David Clifford and Paudie Clifford fought all the way to the end but the reality is that the final came down to the same thing it always comes down to: how many Mayo players played above themselves compared to Kerry players? I think you would probably get well into double figures if you went through it.
It reminded me a bit of the 2002 final against Armagh. We came off the pitch that day feeling like no matter how hard we pushed, the Armagh players pushed back harder. The more you went at it, the more it felt like you were trying to beat back the tide. They grew and they found energy where they didn't have energy. And Kerry were overwhelmed by it.
The likes of Seánie O'Shea didn't have anything like the energy they brought to last year's final. Photograph: Tom O'Hanlon/Inpho
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Mayo looked at Kerry and saw that they had been playing at a slower pace this year compared to last year and made the decision to ramp the whole thing up as much as they could. Kerry want to play slow? Well, let's not give them the choice. Let's see how they react to high energy, high pace, plenty of hits and annoyance. They got their reward for it and they won their All-Ireland.
Kerry had injuries through the year and they ended up in an All-Ireland final with players who didn't have the legs for Mayo. No point crying about it. There's no great mystery about what comes next – you find players who are fit or you mind the ones you have. Either way, it's the obvious starting point for next year.
For now, there's nothing for it but to congratulate Mayo. Everyone is delighted for them, even in Kerry. Apart from anything else, we've all decided down here that since we can't make Mayo jokes any more, we'll have to transfer them all across to Cork.
Darragh pointing towards Kerry's fitness. It does seem to be an issue from time to time. Armagh seemed fitter than them when they beat them a few years back. Mayo definitely had them.
Clifford always looks a bit busted. Seanie O'Shea looks a bit slow and heavy. O'Beaglai looks like he runs on one leg.
I'm sure theirs fitness prep is second to none - do they have individuals who are just naturally not as fit as some others no matter how much training they do? It seems to be a way to get at them.
There's far too much chitter chatter about fitness levels.
I'm not saying fitness isn't important. Of course it is.
But top tier county teams only have two levels; they are either super fit or look super super fit.
The difference between those levels has very little to do with actual fitness, and has a lot more to do with tactics and momentum.
One of the key things continually overlooked since Sunday is that Mayo's gameplan didn't ask anyone to burst their balls by trying playing in multiple positions. Their fullback line played in full back positions. Their full forward line played in full forward positions. Callinan, Hession, Flynn, DOC and Tuohy played between the 45s. The only ones with no fixed position were McBrien, who had a really smart game but mostly ambled forward rather than attacked lines, Carney who had an unbelievable game but never carried the ball, and ROD who played the same role every CHF of the 90s and 00s played.
They looked fitter because they weren't running an endless series of 80m runs in support of now obsolete footballing principles. They gained momentum because when they went to tackle and went to press, they could do so because they weren't bucked from running an endless series of 80m runs in support of now obsolete footballing principles.
Not fitness. Gameplan and momentum.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 31, 2026, 12:39:11 PMDown's in 91 was more significant for everyone else other than Down I think in terms of giving belief to others and changing landscape. Armagh in 02 and Tyrone in 03 were more significant for the respective counties than for anyone else.
Down's win in 91 was huge. They came from nowhere to win that year (although they had top top players - they're weren't on anyone's radar). Their win gave huge hope and belief to other Ulster teams. There was a mental block before that.
If Roscommon believe in themselves and put the work in there's no reason why they can't give it a serious go in the next couple of years.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 31, 2026, 02:17:13 PMThere's far too much chitter chatter about fitness levels.
I'm not saying fitness isn't important. Of course it is.
But top tier county teams only have two levels; they are either super fit or look super super fit.
The difference between those levels has very little to do with actual fitness, and has a lot more to do with tactics and momentum.
One of the key things continually overlooked since Sunday is that Mayo's gameplan didn't ask anyone to burst their balls by trying playing in multiple positions. Their fullback line played in full back positions. Their full forward line played in full forward positions. Callinan, Hession, Flynn, DOC and Tuohy played between the 45s. The only ones with no fixed position were McBrien, who had a really smart game but mostly ambled forward rather than attacked lines, Carney who had an unbelievable game but never carried the ball, and ROD who played the same role every CHF of the 90s and 00s played.
They looked fitter because they weren't running an endless series of 80m runs in support of now obsolete footballing principles. They gained momentum because when they went to tackle and went to press, they could do so because they weren't bucked from running an endless series of 80m runs in support of now obsolete footballing principles.
Not fitness. Gameplan and momentum.
Agree with a lot of this. It's sometimes a mistake to read too much into how a team won an All Ireland, and overstate it as a sea change in how football should be played, but would agree that the running game must take its toll. Would all teams be able to press with the same intensity for as long as Mayo did? Hunger is a key intangible in gaelic football. Mayo were obviously very hungry. We don't always see that easily repeated. Would expect teams to take some learning from the final and adapt as part of their ongoing development, but not to the extent they turn into full-on pressing machines.
Down made huge psychological progress when they beat Kerry in the semi final. It was the first time an Ulster team had beaten a Leinster or Munster team in a semi final since the late 60s afaik.
https://youtu.be/udAXYoJf6Xo?is=QH1u5XFVsXPgrxbQ
It was a breakthrough win.
That showed them they were good enough. The match was amazing. I couldn't believe it was happening.
The final was against Meath who had played 4 matches against Dublin and were knackered.
Eamonn Coleman knew by 1990 that Derry were good enough to win the All Ireland.
https://youtu.be/dd7oYNpQ_B0?is=93Yv3cJZeCcRJG2b
https://x.com/thomasniblock/status/2083166174708150760
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/2026/08/01/keith-duggan-mayo-people-around-the-world-will-remind-themselves-all-winter-it-was-real/
Mayo's win was one of the most joyful national episodes since Republic's foundation
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When winter arrives and the evenings close in, the people of Mayo will continue to remind themselves it was real
Keith Duggan
Sat Aug 01 2026 - 06:00
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MacHale Park in Castlebar has always been best suited to those Saturday night matches in winter, when the season is young and the promise uncontained. An ideal evening would be polar cold and dry, with maybe a low fog hovering across the low fields. Some big-shot county – Kerry, Dublin, one of the Ulster blades or Galway – would be in town. The downtown pubs – McHale's or Sloyan's or Buckos – would benefit from the pre-match crowd. The main stand would be full for at least half an hour before throw-in. The younger crowd would arrive in their going-out clothes. In the press box, the usual faces. Austin Garvin, who trained Mayo minor teams to two All-Ireland titles in the barren 1970s, would be there. Seán Rice, another seer of the Mayo tradition, would be there. Former players might be gigging with Midwest Radio. You were bound to see, in the stand, any of the well-known faces of Mayo football – Liam Mac or Willie Joe or James Nallen, David Brady or the Mortimers. Maughan. The team would take the field. And that's when you'd feel it: the static electricity of pure Mayo togetherness and separateness which would travel from the crowded stadium across the vast county to signal another go at this thing.
Since Mayo became All-Ireland senior football champions again late last Sunday afternoon, ending a 75-year wait, the sounds and images of the day have traversed the digital globe, landing everywhere from Australian television to CNN.
"And finally, the win reverberating around the world this week – ending one of the longest droughts in sports history, and breaking an Irish curse," said Christiane Amanpour, the political anchor, ending her show with footage of the closing seconds.
Mayo captain Jack Coyne lifts the Sam Maguire Cup after his team's victory against Kerry in the All-Ireland SFC final at Croke Park last Sunday. Photograph: Stephen McCarthy/Sportsfile via Getty Images
The audio footage of Midwest Radio's broadcast from Croke Park also swept the globe as commentator Stephen Grealis and analyst Martin Carney delivered a closing stanza that was half poem, half primal scream. Tens of millions of viewers were discovering Gaelic football for the first time. Understandably, they had questions. What was this sport? Why hadn't they seen it before now? If the teams draw those crowds, why aren't the players paid? And so on. The Mayo diaspora, from former US president Joe Biden to the Gallagher brothers of Oasis, heard the call and responded with messages. "Congratulations MAYO lick it up to ras very proud LG x," wrote the younger Gallagher, a regular visitor to his mother's homeplace of Charlestown.
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Within Ireland, the national response was equally remarkable. The 139-year history of the senior football championship is based on county allegiance that is fierce and sometimes poisonous. But last Sunday, Mayo's finest hour was transformed into a unique day of national celebration within seconds of the final whistle. Old rivalries and enmities were temporarily suspended. All 30 neutral counties were moved, in a way that seldom occurs, by the success of the winning team and its followers after a litany of sporting heartbreaks. The players and supporters of Kerry – the standard bearers for the sport – remained in the stadium. As serial winners, the scenario was alien to their psyche, but they saluted its importance.
All was flipped: all of that bottled disappointment of 11 lost All-Ireland finals since 1989, of the memory of family members or friends no longer alive to witness this, all the primordial pride in their county now let loose into the atmosphere. It was overwhelming.
"I have nothing to say," Lee Keegan, one of Mayo's greatest ever footballers, admitted in a choked voice as he stood with the other RTÉ panellists. Then, Keegan delivered a searing, unforgettable tribute.
"I'm f***in' delighted. I'm so proud. I just have no words. That's just unbelievable. I thought I'd never get to see the day this comes. And to see what they did today, the way they finished it . . . the sneering for years, the laughter at Mayo – those guys are legends for the rest of their lives."
Lee Keegan in action for Mayo during the 2021 All-Ireland SFC final defeat to Tyrone. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho
National landmark events tend to be grim, tragic or politically momentous. But even as captain Jack Coyne delivered a momentous speech in a prolonged guttural howl, it felt as though the significance of the day was being claimed by history: that this was one of the more unique – and joyful – national episodes since the foundation of the Republic.
Any visitor knows this: Mayo is a chatty county, filled with natural, often excitable storytellers. And everyone now knows about Mayo's staggeringly bleak fortune in All-Ireland finals between 1951 and Sunday. It would have been understandable had the county and its footballing representatives turned surly or uncommunicative as the doleful record was extended. The years of All-Ireland final defeat could be recited like the sorrowful mysteries: 1989, 1996 (after a replay), 1997, 2004, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2016 (after a replay), 2017, 2020 (the Covid final, played at night in a ghostly Croke Park) and 2021. The numbers ticked up like an unpaid debt. The pursuit was epic. Still, with the unfulfillment, it was threatening to become macabre. In the age of the meme, the jokes came thick and fast. Through all that, Mayo footballers and supporters never shied away from speaking about it, nor returning to All-Ireland finals.
"Maybe we make too much of the football," Fr Leo Morahan, the former county board executive, said back in 2007.
"Mayo has the whole Celtic thing of either being ecstatic or absolutely down in the depths of despair. Maybe it is common to all coastal counties, I don't know. Take the old saying, 'Mayo, God help us'. My belief is that it originates from the Famine when a lot of people fled the land and crowded the port towns like Sligo, Dublin and Galway to get away. And when people were asked where they came from, the reply was 'Mayo, God help us', and it stuck. But in a way, I am kind of proud of that. You carry your wounds with honour."
That's what they did. Walk into any Mayo pub and it won't be long before you will come upon photographs of the 1936 team and the mid-century team that won back-to-back All-Ireland titles in 1950 and 1951. Three All-Ireland titles is hardly a lavish haul. But the composition of that back-to-back winning team was filled with bright, brilliant people. Seán Flanagan, the captain, was then a young barrister and TD who would go on to hold several Cabinet ministerial posts. Eamonn Mongey was a barrister and, later, registrar of the High Court. Pádraig Carney, a doctor who, in an implausibly glamorous turn, flew home from his new life in America to play with the team for the 1954 season. Peter Solan was an engineer, Paddy Prendergast a garda, Joe Dixon a farmer. They all carried themselves with authority and easy self-assurance and they left a deep imprint on the county. Those two years, when the team in its dashing all-white strip dominated, set the template for what Mayo football represented.
Fr Morahan's observation about ecstasy and despair remains the key to its mythologies. The most remarkable statistic about Mayo football has nothing to do with All-Ireland finals. After the gradual dissolution of the team that won successive All-Irelands, Mayo managed just five Connacht title wins – 1955, 1967, 1969, 1981, 1985 – in 30 years. In other words, the county senior team was essentially locked out of the business of winning the All-Ireland. They failed to win a single senior Connacht title throughout the 1970s. When John O'Mahony took charge of the senior team in 1988, he combined his unique personality traits of meticulousness, shrewdness, a kind of spiritual goodness and a romantic sensibility about Mayo to fan the embers and set the whole thing in motion again.
Former Mayo manager, the late John O'Mahony. Photograph: Lorraine O'Sullivan/Inpho
Famously, the 1989 team was offered a flight from Knock Airport, then the pride of the county, to Dublin. O'Mahony later regretted accepting it as it created extra fuss. But Mayo might well have beaten Cork that day and the return flight that Monday evening yielded a fabulous-if-lonely sight for the team as the plane began its descent. The narrow roads were a procession of car lights and, as they hit the tarmac, the players could see thousands of people, of faces, against the wire.
"The crowd got us all," Kevin McStay, the former player and manager, would later say. "There was something very sad and very rural about it. It almost had the look of a massive country funeral."
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If so, it was a party with a raucous wake. The losing team toured the country for a week, convinced that Mayo was on the threshold of reclaiming lost glories. Instead, that year marked the beginning of the concerted quest which would go on for a further 37 years. The "curse" legend was probably revived after the freakish outcome of the 1996 drawn final against Meath, when a hopeful downfield punt from Colm Coyle literally bounced over the Mayo crossbar. It was a bizarre moment of bad luck, but there was no single reason why Mayo hadn't won.
"I wish there was," John Maughan, the manager in 96, told The Irish Times.
"Really, I would love if someone could present one identifiable reason. But don't come to me with all the voodoo talk or curses. That is pie in the sky. I heard the same thing down in Clare with the hex of Biddy Early. And I don't mind it. It is a fun thing. Equally, it's not about theories on guys getting injured or over-training for a certain week in August or all those things that are analysed afterwards. And, of course, I have heard that we have lost games because Maughan didn't change X, Y and Z at a given time. But hey, you dance with the girls that are in the dance hall."
Maughan said that in February 2004, when he was beginning his second term as Mayo manager. By September, he had the county back in an All-Ireland final, when Kerry defeated his young team.
Like most GAA counties, the network of names and connections within Mayo football are impossibly dense: you could fill the entire print edition of this newspaper mapping them. For instance: Martin Carney, who played with Donegal and Mayo, is a nephew of Jackie Carney, a player on the 1936 team and trainer, along with Gerald Courell, of the 1950/51 champions. Conor Loftus, who played on Sunday, is a grandnephew of Dr Mick Loftus, another of the 1950/51 class, who went on to serve as president of the GAA. John O'Mahony was a teacher and coach of Andy Moran at St Nathy's. Moran's first year with Mayo was 2004. Maughan would often collect him at Ballaghaderreen ahead of training and was a natural raconteur behind the wheel, usually involving Mayo football stories. Sixteen years later, freshly retired, Moran would recall, on these pages, a lost trip to Kildare for "some pitch opening – Charlie McCreevy was coming in on a helicopter and cutting a ribbon".
Maughan, the newcomer sensed, was giddy on that drive. He kept saying he had "a treat" and managed to contain his excitement no further than Tulsk.
"Ciarán Mac," he announced, "is back."
There has always been a flamboyant streak running through Mayo football. The 1970s was in some ways defined by Ted Webb, the imperious young star from Ballyhaunis who was tragically killed in a car accident in February 1976. The previous summer Henry Wills took a stunning image of Webb in full flight: it remains one of the imperishable Mayo football images. In the late 1980s, luring Ger Geraghty – one of the many young Mayo people who moved to Chicago – became a primary mission of O'Mahony's. He would later refer to Geraghty as "the missing link" in that period. The late 1980s and 90s had Liam McHale, the sallow, languid 6ft 6in basketball prodigy. "Liam Mac was the best on that team I played on," McStay said when asked about Geraghty. "Ger was a good bit better than Liam."
And Ciarán McDonald, sinewy and tattooed and blond-haired at a time when conformity was demanded on GAA fields, seemed to embody everything that made Mayo different. At his best, he was liquid gold on the field. McDonald made his debut for Mayo in 1994 – the year O'Mahony guided Leitrim to a historic Connacht championship. McDonald had made his club senior debut, with Crossmolina, in his mid-teens and kicked 0-4. He continued to play with his club team well into his 40s, besotted with the game. Through all that time, he seldom gave interviews. A rare exception was a fascinating sit-down television interview with Second Captains a decade ago.
Mayo's Ciarán McDonald (left) holds off Padraig McMahon of Laois during an All-Ireland SFC quarter-final replay at Croke Park in 2006. Photograph: Lorraine O'Sullivan/Inpho
"Number one I'd be a shy person," he said with a laugh when asked by Eoin McDevitt why he remained silent.
"I'd be introverted – I wouldn't be extrovert, no matter what people said about me."
But that night, he opened up about his feelings for Mayo football in a way that was thoughtful, painfully modest and scrupulously honest.
"Oh, it's pretty raw," he said of his three All-Ireland final defeats.
"You'd have the mad illusion in your head you're still good enough to play inter-county football, with the hope of getting an All-Ireland title. They are defeats . . . but it was great to be there. Would it be great to have an All-Ireland title at senior? Course it would."
When Paddy Prendergast, the last of the starting team from 1951 and a man of extraordinary warmth and charisma, died in 2023, Ballintubber club chairman Tony O'Connor – whose sons Cillian and Diarmuid won All-Irelands on Sunday – drew a line under the so-called curse.
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"They were a very religious group of players, who got Mass every morning when in collective training," he told Seán Moran on these pages.
"So, the idea of this curse is a load of rubbish. A group of players more likely to respect a funeral you couldn't imagine. Poor Paddy. It was basically hurting him that this was going on. As he said himself, if there were any truth in it, 'I'd roll over and die', but he said there wasn't an iota of substance to it. It was grossly insulting and very unpleasant."
Through all that time, it wasn't so much the fictive curse that Mayo teams had to fight through as much as the burden of those accumulative defeats, and the weight of Time itself.
"Mayo people – we are different. I can say that now," Andy Moran said on these pages shortly after he retired.
Mayo's Kobe McDonald and manager Andy Moran celebrate after last Sunday's All-Ireland SFC final victory against Kerry at Croke Park. Photograph: James Crombie/Inpho
"There is a cultish element to us. But we love football and if the team is getting attention, I think that is a good thing for us as a county."
Everyone now knows how the story ends.
Mayo lost the coin toss for jersey preference. Rather than the more neutral blue, they chose to wear the all-white strip designed as a commemorative honour of the 1950/1951 team. It was a risk: had the match gone badly – as many forecast it could do, those shirts would have become symbolic of another bleak day. John O'Mahony's death, in 2024, cast a deep shadow over the west of Ireland. "I just thought he was brilliant, how he treated people," James Horan, the former player who led Mayo's second rush after becoming manager in 2011, once said of his manager.
As it happened, the silver jubilee of the Galway All-Ireland winning team, which O'Mahony had managed in 2001, took place on Sunday. His wife Gerardine represented him on the pitch for the presentation before the crowd.
Gerardine O'Mahony representing her late husband John O'Mahony for the celebration of Galway's All-Ireland winning team of 2001, which he managed. Photograph: Tom O'Hanlon/Inpho
Andy Moran, in his first season, went for broke with his high-pressing tactics.
Significantly, they liberated themselves through pure Mayo football traditions – high-octane adventurism and the imposition of organised chaos. A very young team was transformed into Mayo's history boys over the course of the afternoon, joining the ranks of those three fabled years. Ciarán McDonald's son Kobe, an extravagant talent bound for Australian rules football, was one of three first-season players to win an All-Ireland. Moran admitted that in those agonising last two minutes he said a silent prayer to his former teacher. "I'd be lying if I said at 69 minutes there I didn't say a little prayer to Johnno," he told RTÉ.
"Johnno's team was here, it was 25 years, my mentor, my friend – he tried twice with us. I have to say, I said a little one, I said, 'Johnno, if I need you, it's now'."
In those dazzling white shirts, the young Mayo team, on the threshold of becoming All-Ireland champions again, looked like an apparition.
But as Mayo people around the world will remind themselves all winter: it was real. You carry your wounds with honour.
Keith Duggan's book, House of Pain: Through the Rooms of Mayo Football, was originally published in 2007 by Mainstream
Weren't the 1970s just great?😆
Keith Highins diary Irish Examiner
As soon as the medical team dropped off the call Andy set off his stall. We were going after Kerry. No holding back. No backward step. No deviation from our principles.
If anything we were going to ramp up.that stuff even more..
https://www.thetimes.com/article/ae39d232-2c9d-45ae-a6de-72da70671689?shareToken=3bb74a28c4f39b05d75224c7d2b05ac7
Were any of the Mayo panel playing junior championship at weekend?
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/08/01/as-soon-as-the-hooter-sounded-in-croke-park-the-story-was-no-longer-about-football/
During the week, Gunnigan did an interview with a Canadian radio station and at the homecoming on Monday he took a call on air from a radio station in Melbourne. The story had circled the globe. They wanted to ask about Kobe McDonald, who will soon be landing in their laps, but they had other questions too.
"They said: 'What do your guys get for winning the All-Ireland?' I had a think about it, and I said I'll answer your question in one word.
"Immortality."
A week later and some thoughts...
The end of an era....
God I'm Glad that that is over. It took far far too long. We had some great days along the way. But the ultimate AI Final failure at the end of every good season would crush the most positive of Mayo fan. Have to say - It's great not having to suck it up anymore. Losers have no voice.
Friends and Family
There are so many who were with me on this journey, some now WhatsApp friends, some now living abroad, some who just drifted out of my life along the way and some sadly no longer with us. Getting over the line brought many back into my thoughts over the week. I'm am now a middle aged man. I seriously thought I'd never see the day. In truth winning it became bigger than it really was and had a suffocating effect.
The Perspective
Let's face it Kerry did virtually no tactical homework on Mayo. Their main concern was getting the wounded and injured onto the pitch. This game was seen as a mere formality and this was shown in naming their injured Captain as one of the subs. One of the Kerry Podcasts said they didn't know which game was the Tailteann Cup final on the Saturday the week before. Despite the public talk - there will have been great embarrassment in Kerry to have been the one who lost to Mayo in a final.
Luck
To win an AI - you need luck. And we go lorry loads this year. The side of the draw. Losing to Tyrone to end up on that side of the draw. Losing to Roscommon - giving us 5 weeks off to sort stuff out. No major injuries. Meath going down to 14. Kerry injury crisis. The white jerseys. Winning the toss for what end to play into in the final.
Andy Moran
Must be the strongest all round Manager GAA has seen. Tactician, Motivator, Psychologist, Innovator, Media savvy, Risk taker, Enthusiast - to name a few.
He has torn up the GAA statican handbook - stats that used to be key mean nothing anymore.
The Media
Isn't Tommy Rooney a solid pundit? He only talks of the positives of Gaelic Football. Loves the game and looks for the small stories. His coverage of Football has been top notch and his enthusiasm was not clouded by Meaths relatively poor championship. It great to see the new generation like him replace the Joe Brollys of the world. Joe who went for and Coffee with Andy Moran in Castlebar (cough - Bullsh1t) the week before the final.
The Future
A tough year ahead for Andy. Getting these young lads back to earth won't be easy. There will be obvious retirements and there will be a culling of the herd. I don't expect us to retain the title. This could be the peak. But with the proper guidance we will be there or there about for the next few years.
On the other hand - I remember cheering on Dublin in 2011 and see what happened there. Be careful what you wish for.....
Enjoy it Bunk.
Congrats Mayo, that was some performance in the final 👏. Delighted for all the Mayo folk on here and those departed. Be a few shaky nerves this week
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2026, 11:39:52 AMEnjoy it Bunk.
Thanx RF
Well done to the Rossies yesterday 👍
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2026, 12:59:40 AMA week later and some thoughts...
The Media
Isn't Tommy Rooney a solid pundit? He only talks of the positives of Gaelic Football. Loves the game and looks for the small stories. His coverage of Football has been top notch and his enthusiasm was not clouded by Meaths relatively poor championship. It great to see the new generation like him replace the Joe Brollys of the world. Joe who went for and Coffee with Andy Moran in Castlebar (cough - Bullsh1t) the week before the final.
He's brilliant and getting better year on year. It'll never happen but if RTE had anything about them they'd give him his own show throughout the week building up to matches. As you say just a man that loves his Gaelic football.
Like you read my mind. I watched a lot of online punditry and it was notably positive.
Very feel good Vs the TV output.
Maybe I was wrong about ex and current players being pundits. It does negate the older gen yapping about a game they never actually played.
"The medium is the message"
Less said about the toxic shite umbrella man the better. Hope players know at this stage to fill him full of crap or avoid any interaction at all.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2026, 12:06:48 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2026, 11:39:52 AMEnjoy it Bunk.
Thanx RF
Well done to the Rossies yesterday 👍
Thanks Bunker.
They did well after a hammering in Connacht (is this the new formula?)
Also the whole Ladies Co Board disintegrated a few years ago.
Congrats to all the Mayo posters on here, I was at the match as I have been at all their finals since 2012, I'm married to a Mayo woman so was a unique experience to share it with our daughters who support Mayo.
Sunday felt different from the off, on Saturday I gave them no chance but Sunday their was something in the air although was not thinking that after 15 minutes. The nervousness which would normally be around the Mayo support on final day just wasn't there.
Social media can be a curse, even I've been congratulated ffs!!
Will this give Galway a shot in the arm for 2027?
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2026, 11:06:15 PMWill this give Galway a shot in the arm for 2027?
You would hope so. Galway (and Roscommon) would both feel they are every bit as good as Mayo. Both sides will be absolutely dying to have a cut off them next year. However for Galway at least they are not going to win it playing like they have been for the past few years. And there is no sign of that changing yet. Bar a Road to Damascus moment for PJ. The Rossies play positively in fairness but seem to have a system malfunction every time they get out of Connacht. Hopfully a rising tide lifts all boats.
In 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
In 1991 Down broke through. Over the next 20 years they won 2, Derry won their first, Donegal won their first and ended with 2, Armagh won 1 and Throne won 3.
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2026, 08:11:04 AMIn 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
Didn't Galway win 2 as well?
Seeing as Mayowestros and Tyrone were the 2 most improved teams this Summer will anyone with designs on Sam put much effort into Provincials in future?
Could we end up with 2 "slow bike races" -- NFL D1 and Provincials?
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2026, 08:11:04 AMIn 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
In 1991 Down broke through. Over the next 20 years they won 2, Derry won their first, Donegal won their first and ended with 2, Armagh won 1 and Throne won 3.
Galway's 3 in a row in the 60's was a significant milestone. I know it was only one county but it was a significant period for Connacht football, ravaged by immigration.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 09:23:14 AMQuote from: seafoid on August 04, 2026, 08:11:04 AMIn 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
Didn't Galway win 2 as well?
Seeing as Mayowestros and Tyrone were the 2 most improved teams this Summer will anyone with designs on Sam put much effort into Provincials in future?
Could we end up with 2 "slow bike races" -- NFL D1 and Provincials?
Galway won 2 but they won afterwards.. Until this year Cavan Mayo and Ros didn't. I think it was a unique period in the game.
Mol an óige
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 04, 2026, 09:25:35 AMQuote from: seafoid on August 04, 2026, 08:11:04 AMIn 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
In 1991 Down broke through. Over the next 20 years they won 2, Derry won their first, Donegal won their first and ended with 2, Armagh won 1 and Throne won 3.
Galway's 3 in a row in the 60's was a significant milestone. I know it was only one county but it was a significant period for Connacht football, ravaged by immigration.
Yes, but unfortunately it was followwd by 32 years without a connacht winner of the all ireland.
Galway's 2001 win was the last for connacht until this year.
so in the last 60 years it's been 3 connacht wins (2 galway, 1 mayo).
Hopefully this mayo win will lift all boats in connacht, but it's far from a guarantee!
Sligo had a few good minor and u20 teams earlier this decade.
I'd have thought they'd be showing improvement at Senior level by now.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2026, 12:59:40 AMA week later and some thoughts...
The end of an era....
God I'm Glad that that is over. It took far far too long. We had some great days along the way. But the ultimate AI Final failure at the end of every good season would crush the most positive of Mayo fan. Have to say - It's great not having to suck it up anymore. Losers have no voice.
Friends and Family
There are so many who were with me on this journey, some now WhatsApp friends, some now living abroad, some who just drifted out of my life along the way and some sadly no longer with us. Getting over the line brought many back into my thoughts over the week. I'm am now a middle aged man. I seriously thought I'd never see the day. In truth winning it became bigger than it really was and had a suffocating effect.
The Perspective
Let's face it Kerry did virtually no tactical homework on Mayo. Their main concern was getting the wounded and injured onto the pitch. This game was seen as a mere formality and this was shown in naming their injured Captain as one of the subs. One of the Kerry Podcasts said they didn't know which game was the Tailteann Cup final on the Saturday the week before. Despite the public talk - there will have been great embarrassment in Kerry to have been the one who lost to Mayo in a final.
Luck
To win an AI - you need luck. And we go lorry loads this year. The side of the draw. Losing to Tyrone to end up on that side of the draw. Losing to Roscommon - giving us 5 weeks off to sort stuff out. No major injuries. Meath going down to 14. Kerry injury crisis. The white jerseys. Winning the toss for what end to play into in the final.
Andy Moran
Must be the strongest all round Manager GAA has seen. Tactician, Motivator, Psychologist, Innovator, Media savvy, Risk taker, Enthusiast - to name a few.
He has torn up the GAA statican handbook - stats that used to be key mean nothing anymore.
The Media
Isn't Tommy Rooney a solid pundit? He only talks of the positives of Gaelic Football. Loves the game and looks for the small stories. His coverage of Football has been top notch and his enthusiasm was not clouded by Meaths relatively poor championship. It great to see the new generation like him replace the Joe Brollys of the world. Joe who went for and Coffee with Andy Moran in Castlebar (cough - Bullsh1t) the week before the final.
The Future
A tough year ahead for Andy. Getting these young lads back to earth won't be easy. There will be obvious retirements and there will be a culling of the herd. I don't expect us to retain the title. This could be the peak. But with the proper guidance we will be there or there about for the next few years.
On the other hand - I remember cheering on Dublin in 2011 and see what happened there. Be careful what you wish for.....
To hell with next year! Kick back and enjoy the win and the winter. There'll be plenty more seasons to come after 2027.
Great post!
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 09:23:14 AMQuote from: seafoid on August 04, 2026, 08:11:04 AMIn 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
Didn't Galway win 2 as well?
Seeing as Mayowestros and Tyrone were the 2 most improved teams this Summer will anyone with designs on Sam put much effort into Provincials in future?
Could we end up with 2 "slow bike races" -- NFL D1 and Provincials?
Only if they want the satisfaction of winning it because of a drought or a series of near misses (like Armagh). There is very little benefit for the AI series and if anything being dumped out early on allows teams the chance to learn, lie low for a while and refocus.
Quote from: Armamike on August 04, 2026, 12:50:30 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 09:23:14 AMQuote from: seafoid on August 04, 2026, 08:11:04 AMIn 1933 Cavan won their first Sam
Over the next 20 years they won 5 , Mayo won 3 and Roscommon won 2.Then it stopped.
Didn't Galway win 2 as well?
Seeing as Mayowestros and Tyrone were the 2 most improved teams this Summer will anyone with designs on Sam put much effort into Provincials in future?
Could we end up with 2 "slow bike races" -- NFL D1 and Provincials?
Only if they want the satisfaction of winning it because of a drought or a series of near misses (like Armagh). There is very little benefit for the AI series and if anything being dumped out early on allows teams the chance to learn, lie low for a while and refocus.
And stay under the radar, like Mayo did.
A few of those Mayo lads I never really seen much of (or heard of), until the Louth semi. And it was hard to judge If Mayo were really good or Louth were really poor that day , so we didn't really learn much from it. Nor did Kerry, it seems.
Last year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
I don't understand this "under the radar" angle. Do you not watch National League football?
5 of Mayo's defence (along with 6 others who played in both) lined out in the 2025 NFL final.
12 of the 20 players used by Mayo last weekend played in a national league final 3 years ago.
10 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2021 Ai final
8 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2020 Ai final.
Stephen Coen too. He would have featured last weekend but for injury and he played in all the above.
They brought through a seam of quality players earlier this decade - Coyne, Hession, Callinan, McBrien, Carney, ROD - when the old guard were done. And they stayed competitive whilst waiting for those lads to mature into men.
Mayo have been hiding in plain sight for the past 5 years I reckon.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 04, 2026, 02:23:05 PMI don't understand this "under the radar" angle. Do you not watch National League football?
5 of Mayo's defence (along with 6 others who played in both) lined out in the 2025 NFL final.
12 of the 20 players used by Mayo last weekend played in a national league final 3 years ago.
10 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2021 Ai final
8 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2020 Ai final.
Stephen Coen too. He would have featured last weekend but for injury and he played in all the above.
They brought through a seam of quality players earlier this decade - Coyne, Hession, Callinan, McBrien, Carney, ROD - when the old guard were done. And they stayed competitive whilst waiting for those lads to mature into men.
Mayo have been hiding in plain sight for the past 5 years I reckon.
Tyrone 2021 springs to mind, one and done
Armagh very possibly the same.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 02:14:11 PMLast year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
Only 1 Provincial Champion made the last 8.
Perhaps let Provincial Champions straight to Round 2?
Have the 8 non Finalists play a prelim Round so 4 of them will be on their last life?
They have to do something like that or else the provincials are a dead duck.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 04, 2026, 02:23:05 PMI don't understand this "under the radar" angle. Do you not watch National League football?
5 of Mayo's defence (along with 6 others who played in both) lined out in the 2025 NFL final.
12 of the 20 players used by Mayo last weekend played in a national league final 3 years ago.
10 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2021 Ai final
8 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2020 Ai final.
Stephen Coen too. He would have featured last weekend but for injury and he played in all the above.
They brought through a seam of quality players earlier this decade - Coyne, Hession, Callinan, McBrien, Carney, ROD - when the old guard were done. And they stayed competitive whilst waiting for those lads to mature into men.
Mayo have been hiding in plain sight for the past 5 years I reckon.
League stuff and knockout championship football aren't comparable, the only thing that could be compared looking back was Kerry's defending against Tyrone,Dublin and Mayo was as poor as it was against Donegal in the league final. One Kerry poster on here thought Jason Foley whould mark Ryan O'Donoghue out of the game, instead O'Donoghue was Man of the match. The same Kerry poster hasn't posted since I wonder why?
Those stats are inflated by saying matchday squad instead of starting 15 which was much changed from the 2021 All-Ireland final
Mayo in their previous 4 championships was last 16,last 12 exits and hammered by Kerry,Dublin in All-Ireland Quarter-finals. Mayo and their supporters can correct me if wrong, 7 or 8 of their starting 15 played in their first ever Croke Park championship match against Cork in this summers All-Ireland Quarter-final, if that isn't the definition of coming in under the radar I don't know what is
After winning All-Ireland semi-final by 17 points the under radar stuff should have been over however Andy Moran played the media like a fiddle after that match asking a room of journalists did any of them really think Mayo would win the All Ireland final and he was greeted with silence.
Even though we have a more offensive based game All-Ireland finals are still won by the team that defends the best and the defensive work out of possession by Mayo forwards and midfielders was the stand out feature in them ending their 75 year famine. Food for thought for teams with potential in what is sure to be another open championship in 2027.
When Tommy Conroy came on ROD moved out the field and Foley stopped marking him Captain Obvious. 24 mins I believe and ROD did his damage after that.
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2026, 05:16:15 PMWhen Tommy Conroy came on ROD moved out the field and Foley stopped marking him Captain Obvious. 24 mins I believe and ROD did his damage after that.
ROD general influence on any contest is out the field. That's another example of the poor defensive effort by Kerry, too many cooks on the sideline for them?
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 04:42:20 PMThey have to do something like that or else the provincials are a dead duck.
Armagh won't be bursting a gut to win Ulster next year.
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2026, 05:16:15 PMWhen Tommy Conroy came on ROD moved out the field and Foley stopped marking him Captain Obvious. 24 mins I believe and ROD did his damage after that.
I wonder how things would have fared out if Foley had followed O'Donoghue for the whole game
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 04:37:16 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 02:14:11 PMLast year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
Only 1 Provincial Champion made the last 8.
Perhaps let Provincial Champions straight to Round 2?
Have the 8 non Finalists play a prelim Round so 4 of them will be on their last life?
Why do that though?
After the provincial finals a lot of people were saying how good they were. Roscommon, Westmeath and Armagh certainly celebrated their wins and seemed to enjoy getting the titles.
The have their cups, why should doing well in that competition be rewarded in a separate competition. I think a level playing field at the start of each competition is fairer instead of getting a leg up because you are already a winner. We had a great AI series, why mess with it?
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 04, 2026, 07:50:54 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 04:37:16 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 02:14:11 PMLast year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
Only 1 Provincial Champion made the last 8.
Perhaps let Provincial Champions straight to Round 2?
Have the 8 non Finalists play a prelim Round so 4 of them will be on their last life?
Why do that though?
After the provincial finals a lot of people were saying how good they were. Roscommon, Westmeath and Armagh certainly celebrated their wins and seemed to enjoy getting the titles.
The have their cups, why should doing well in that competition be rewarded in a separate competition. I think a level playing field at the start of each competition is fairer instead of getting a leg up because you are already a winner. We had a great AI series, why mess with it?
Not a separate competition when county in Div 3,4 or relegated in Division 2 can reach the last 16 of the All-Ireland championship by reaching a Provincial final.
Provincial runner up getting the same as the winner, round 1 home game is probably the main issue. Also holding the round 1 draw before provincial finals was so poorly planned.
Kerry and Munster is the problem with rewarding Provincial Champions.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 04, 2026, 07:50:54 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 04:37:16 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 02:14:11 PMLast year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
Only 1 Provincial Champion made the last 8.
Perhaps let Provincial Champions straight to Round 2?
Have the 8 non Finalists play a prelim Round so 4 of them will be on their last life?
Why do that though?
After the provincial finals a lot of people were saying how good they were. Roscommon, Westmeath and Armagh certainly celebrated their wins and seemed to enjoy getting the titles.
The have their cups, why should doing well in that competition be rewarded in a separate competition. I think a level playing field at the start of each competition is fairer instead of getting a leg up because you are already a winner. We had a great AI series, why mess with it?
If a different competition, why was Malachy O'Rourke and his team in Hyde Park to study Roscommon. Because they knew in advance they were meeting Roscommon as a provincial finalist.
If it was really a different competition, then the draw should have no connection to the provincial finalists. The 16 teams should be ranked, based on league, and a draw done once the provincials are over, given its a new competitions and managers then could decide either the provincials are worth winning, or be used as a warm up for the All-Ireland series. And i think more would opt for the latter once that connection is removed. Mayo showed there's no shame in taking a beating in provincials and adapting for the All-Ireland series.
Quote from: Armamike on August 04, 2026, 05:47:22 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 04:42:20 PMThey have to do something like that or else the provincials are a dead duck.
Armagh won't be bursting a gut to win Ulster next year.
They did not bust a gut winning one this year either, they were quite casual in the Ulster final and did not play as well as in the Ulster finals in the previous years.
Quote from: weareros on August 04, 2026, 08:45:51 PMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on August 04, 2026, 07:50:54 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 04:37:16 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 02:14:11 PMLast year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
Only 1 Provincial Champion made the last 8.
Perhaps let Provincial Champions straight to Round 2?
Have the 8 non Finalists play a prelim Round so 4 of them will be on their last life?
Why do that though?
After the provincial finals a lot of people were saying how good they were. Roscommon, Westmeath and Armagh certainly celebrated their wins and seemed to enjoy getting the titles.
The have their cups, why should doing well in that competition be rewarded in a separate competition. I think a level playing field at the start of each competition is fairer instead of getting a leg up because you are already a winner. We had a great AI series, why mess with it?
If a different competition, why was Malachy O'Rourke and his team in Hyde Park to study Roscommon. Because they knew in advance they were meeting Roscommon as a provincial finalist.
If it was really a different competition, then the draw should have no connection to the provincial finalists. The 16 teams should be ranked, based on league, and a draw done once the provincials are over, given its a new competitions and managers then could decide either the provincials are worth winning, or be used as a warm up for the All-Ireland series. And i think more would opt for the latter once that connection is removed. Mayo showed there's no shame in taking a beating in provincials and adapting for the All-Ireland series.
Malachy being at the match was due to the timing of the draw, not due to it being a different competitions.
Changing the date of the draw to the Sunday or Monday after the last final could be done and would fix that. That is a separate issue and nothing to do with why a winner should get a leg up in another competition.
I'm not a fan of early draws, especially the provincial draw done before the league even starts, but that is also a different issue.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2026, 08:31:54 PMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on August 04, 2026, 07:50:54 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2026, 04:37:16 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2026, 02:14:11 PMLast year's was almost a nail in the coffin for provincials. Going further meant zero later on and was almost a negative. I am not sure how they rectify that.
Only 1 Provincial Champion made the last 8.
Perhaps let Provincial Champions straight to Round 2?
Have the 8 non Finalists play a prelim Round so 4 of them will be on their last life?
Why do that though?
After the provincial finals a lot of people were saying how good they were. Roscommon, Westmeath and Armagh certainly celebrated their wins and seemed to enjoy getting the titles.
The have their cups, why should doing well in that competition be rewarded in a separate competition. I think a level playing field at the start of each competition is fairer instead of getting a leg up because you are already a winner. We had a great AI series, why mess with it?
Not a separate competition when county in Div 3,4 or relegated in Division 2 can reach the last 16 of the All-Ireland championship by reaching a Provincial final.
Provincial runner up getting the same as the winner, round 1 home game is probably the main issue. Aldo holding the round 1 draw before provincial finals was so poorly planned.
Typical John Aldridge ::)
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2026, 05:05:06 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 04, 2026, 02:23:05 PMI don't understand this "under the radar" angle. Do you not watch National League football?
5 of Mayo's defence (along with 6 others who played in both) lined out in the 2025 NFL final.
12 of the 20 players used by Mayo last weekend played in a national league final 3 years ago.
10 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2021 Ai final
8 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2020 Ai final.
Stephen Coen too. He would have featured last weekend but for injury and he played in all the above.
They brought through a seam of quality players earlier this decade - Coyne, Hession, Callinan, McBrien, Carney, ROD - when the old guard were done. And they stayed competitive whilst waiting for those lads to mature into men.
Mayo have been hiding in plain sight for the past 5 years I reckon.
League stuff and knockout championship football aren't comparable, the only thing that could be compared looking back was Kerry's defending against Tyrone,Dublin and Mayo was as poor as it was against Donegal in the league final. One Kerry poster on here thought Jason Foley whould mark Ryan O'Donoghue out of the game, instead O'Donoghue was Man of the match. The same Kerry poster hasn't posted since I wonder why?
Those stats are inflated by saying matchday squad instead of starting 15 which was much changed from the 2021 All-Ireland final
Mayo in their previous 4 championships was last 16,last 12 exits and hammered by Kerry,Dublin in All-Ireland Quarter-finals. Mayo and their supporters can correct me if wrong, 7 or 8 of their starting 15 played in their first ever Croke Park championship match against Cork in this summers All-Ireland Quarter-final, if that isn't the definition of coming in under the radar I don't know what is
After winning All-Ireland semi-final by 17 points the under radar stuff should have been over however Andy Moran played the media like a fiddle after that match asking a room of journalists did any of them really think Mayo would win the All Ireland final and he was greeted with silence.
Even though we have a more offensive based game All-Ireland finals are still won by the team that defends the best and the defensive work out of possession by Mayo forwards and midfielders was the stand out feature in them ending their 75 year famine. Food for thought for teams with potential in what is sure to be another open championship in 2027.
I thought that was genius. It took the pressure off his team yet provided them with all the motivation they needed to go and win the final .
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2026, 05:05:06 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 04, 2026, 02:23:05 PMI don't understand this "under the radar" angle. Do you not watch National League football?
5 of Mayo's defence (along with 6 others who played in both) lined out in the 2025 NFL final.
12 of the 20 players used by Mayo last weekend played in a national league final 3 years ago.
10 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2021 Ai final
8 of last weekend's matchday squad were in the 26 man panel for the 2020 Ai final.
Stephen Coen too. He would have featured last weekend but for injury and he played in all the above.
They brought through a seam of quality players earlier this decade - Coyne, Hession, Callinan, McBrien, Carney, ROD - when the old guard were done. And they stayed competitive whilst waiting for those lads to mature into men.
Mayo have been hiding in plain sight for the past 5 years I reckon.
League stuff and knockout championship football aren't comparable, the only thing that could be compared looking back was Kerry's defending against Tyrone,Dublin and Mayo was as poor as it was against Donegal in the league final. One Kerry poster on here thought Jason Foley whould mark Ryan O'Donoghue out of the game, instead O'Donoghue was Man of the match. The same Kerry poster hasn't posted since I wonder why?
Those stats are inflated by saying matchday squad instead of starting 15 which was much changed from the 2021 All-Ireland final
Mayo in their previous 4 championships was last 16,last 12 exits and hammered by Kerry,Dublin in All-Ireland Quarter-finals. Mayo and their supporters can correct me if wrong, 7 or 8 of their starting 15 played in their first ever Croke Park championship match against Cork in this summers All-Ireland Quarter-final, if that isn't the definition of coming in under the radar I don't know what is
After winning All-Ireland semi-final by 17 points the under radar stuff should have been over however Andy Moran played the media like a fiddle after that match asking a room of journalists did any of them really think Mayo would win the All Ireland final and he was greeted with silence.
Even though we have a more offensive based game All-Ireland finals are still won by the team that defends the best and the defensive work out of possession by Mayo forwards and midfielders was the stand out feature in them ending their 75 year famine. Food for thought for teams with potential in what is sure to be another open championship in 2027.
That "7/8" surprised me but it might be right.
Livingstone, McGreal, Beirne and Kobe made their first Croke Park championship starts vs Cork. Diarmuid Duffy came on early to make five.
Maybe McHugh, Brickenden and Towey didn't get any Croke park minutes over the years, I'm not sure.
I guess the point I'm trying to make though is that Mayo had been developing the core of that team since 2020. Aside from injury, Coyne, Hession, Callinan, McBrien, Carney, Flynn, O'Donaghue and Conroy (along with Coen and, until this season, Ruane) have been everpresents whilst the older guard were phased out and the younger lads brought through. Along with Brickenden, Tuohy and McHugh, they don't really know anything apart from D1 level football and what it entails. League isn't championship, but if there's a better prep for marking the Clifford's, Walsh etc than playing against them, I don't know what it is.
There's definite parallels with Tyrone in 2021. They were also a team with the right age and experience profile to win an AI. They just needed a few cards to fall in their favour.
I'm not sure about a progression since 2021. Kevin McStay couldn't get it to work.
They were 12/1
They have 3 scoring forwards. 2 of their marquee players are teenagers. Kobe and Beirne could be as good as Linden and McCartan when they are 26. Hopefully Kobe will be back.
They have an excellent management team. Higgins and Boyle are very impressive. So is Tally.
Like Tyrone 21 but also like Derry 93 or Down 91. They had a team that was ready for Croke Park. They broke the mould. They were good enough to beat Kerry.
Their mindset was spot on. Culmination of years of work Rochford and Horan addressed the Mayo psychology when they were managers.
Andy Moran is a great tactician. He was thinking a few steps ahead. He was fearless.
Keith Higgins diary Irish Examiner
As soon as the medical team dropped off the call Andy set off his stall. We were going after Kerry. No holding back. No backward step. No deviation from our principles.
If anything we were going to ramp up.that stuff even more..
They got the crowd behind them. They had an energy source.
They had the right model.
Performance levels on the biggest day.
It all came together. But the scoring forwards was the foundation..
Scoring forwards alleviate pressure on your own defence as ultimately the opposition if they have any sense will at least pay some heed to them
Kerry laughably didn't really price this in, overanxious to bring lads in who were returning from injury to eke another out where the jersey alone would be enough to spook the opposition
And it was nearly enough, Kerry massively misfired on the day yet still had their chances, Mayo couldn't capitalise and had that potential wobble feel to them for a time, at the death you'd still have backed Clifford to score the 2 pointer to force extra time
History is written by the victors and winning justifies any means in high end sport, it was a great final and Mayo fully deserved it after watching a few slip away
Without Kobe they'll not have the same x factor up front next year, but entering the championship as defending champs with a target on your back is a great problem to have
Moran now has the dual distinction of a historic Connacht championship defeat to New York and a historic All-Ireland win on his CV, goes to show how a picture can be distorted by looking at results alone, hope he sticks at it McGeeney style, and Galway and Roscommon come heavy next year, Kerry Dublin and the north will reboot, it feels 90s 00s football again and thats pretty awesome
Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2026, 03:03:03 PMI'm not sure about a progression since 2021. Kevin McStay couldn't get it to work.
They were 12/1
They have 3 scoring forwards. 2 of their marquee players are teenagers. Kobe and Beirne could be as good as Linden and McCartan when they are 26. Hopefully Kobe will be back.
They have an excellent management team. Higgins and Boyle are very impressive. So is Tally.
Like Tyrone 21 but also like Derry 93 or Down 91. They had a team that was ready for Croke Park. They broke the mould. They were good enough to beat Kerry.
Their mindset was spot on. Culmination of years of work Rochford and Horan addressed the Mayo psychology when they were managers.
Andy Moran is a great tactician. He was thinking a few steps ahead. He was fearless.
Keith Higgins diary Irish Examiner
As soon as the medical team dropped off the call Andy set off his stall. We were going after Kerry. No holding back. No backward step. No deviation from our principles.
If anything we were going to ramp up.that stuff even more..
They got the crowd behind them. They had an energy source.
They had the right model.
Performance levels on the biggest day.
It all came together. But the scoring forwards was the foundation..
Work rate to win back possession with relentless high pressing was the foundation. 40 phases of play for Mayo and 28 of these came from Kerry possession.
It's quite rare to see 2 of your 3 scoring forwards perform so well at that age. That was one of the big reasons people were tipping Kerry to beat Mayo. I can't think of too many other teams in the recent past who had two teenagers in the full forward line.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 05, 2026, 03:35:26 PMWork rate to win back possession with relentless high pressing was the foundation. 40 phases of play for Mayo and 28 of these came from Kerry possession.
Tally must have shared the Tyrone 03 DVD with him
Quote from: tiempo on August 05, 2026, 03:23:07 PMScoring forwards alleviate pressure on your own defence as ultimately the opposition if they have any sense will at least pay some heed to them
Kerry laughably didn't really price this in, overanxious to bring lads in who were returning from injury to eke another out where the jersey alone would be enough to spook the opposition
And it was nearly enough, Kerry massively misfired on the day yet still had their chances, Mayo couldn't capitalise and had that potential wobble feel to them for a time, at the death you'd still have backed Clifford to score the 2 pointer to force extra time
History is written by the victors and winning justifies any means in high end sport, it was a great final and Mayo fully deserved it after watching a few slip away
Without Kobe they'll not have the same x factor up front next year, but entering the championship as defending champs with a target on your back is a great problem to have
Moran now has the dual distinction of a historic Connacht championship defeat to New York and a historic All-Ireland win on his CV, goes to show how a picture can be distorted by looking at results alone, hope he sticks at it McGeeney style, and Galway and Roscommon come heavy next year, Kerry Dublin and the north will reboot, it feels 90s 00s football again and thats pretty awesome
They will be marked next year so they probably won't make back to back but they should be good enough to win another Sam within 3 or 4 years.
Just catching up now to offer a belated, massive congrats to Mayo. The relief at the final whistle was immense 😀
I don't think it's hyperbolic to state that this was one of the best days in the history of the GAA. The entire country briefly stood still. Everybody was drawn to it.
Life is subtly different for Mayo people too. I've some Mayo connections and friends, there's a cloud lifted.
It was the perfect end to an unbelievable season. No disrespect to Kerry, who I greatly admire, but this was fitting. The range of emotional breakthroughs, unlikely upsets, statement victories, and genuinely thrilling encounters was greater than I can recall in a single season.
Roscommon had a wonderful provincial journey which should focus minds for next year. Wicklow had their greatest season ever and have the Sam Maguire to prepare for. Similarly Westmeath had arguably their greatest year. Mark McHugh has joined Páidí in our pantheon and will hope to build further. Louth have had a taste of the thin air, they've the tools to return. Monaghan will know that a few unfortunate injuries spoiled their potential fairytale. Tyrone will similarly take massive positives when the emotion dissipates.
Kerry, Armagh, Donegal, Galway and Meath will search deep into their souls. Cork and Down too. Answers may lie there, if they can locate and decipher them.
Mayo should just bask for a while. This team photo will still hang in pubs in 2084. These men and boys are immortal. Soak it up. Andy will get you back out when it's time.
Football is flourishing.
Paul Galvin
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/08/06/culture-night-ambassador-paul-galvin-i-think-it-will-be-a-tough-winter-in-kerry/
I was doing
some talks beforehand, and I just had a funny feeling before that game. When it all transpired at the end of the game, it was hard to take your eyes off it, really and truly.
Maybe the rules have made the game younger again. There's a bit more space and a bit more room maybe, so that might be a thing where teams are going to have to look at perhaps going for younger sides."
[ Mayo's victory was the greatest sporting occasion I'll ever attend.
The average age of Kerry's starting 15 in the All-Ireland final was 28 while Mayo's average age was 23.8.
Kerry had no players starting the game under 24 while Mayo had seven aged 24 or younger. Andy Moran's side had three teenagers in their line-up – Eoin McGreal, Kobe McDonald and Darragh Beirne.
Well folks, haven't been on here in years - checked my last post and it was just after the 2021 AI final.
Was an unbelievable match and a savage week around the county, the positivity from everyone is something else.
Nice touch to see so many posters remembering Farrandeelin and Lar just after the match, it's a pity that neither lived to see this day.
Quote from: tiempo on August 05, 2026, 04:42:03 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on August 05, 2026, 03:35:26 PMWork rate to win back possession with relentless high pressing was the foundation. 40 phases of play for Mayo and 28 of these came from Kerry possession.
Tally must have shared the Tyrone 03 DVD with him
Makes you wonder what was going on with Derry that they didn't win a league or championship game under Tally.
The players!
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 08, 2026, 04:12:41 PMQuote from: tiempo on August 05, 2026, 04:42:03 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on August 05, 2026, 03:35:26 PMWork rate to win back possession with relentless high pressing was the foundation. 40 phases of play for Mayo and 28 of these came from Kerry possession.
Tally must have shared the Tyrone 03 DVD with him
Makes you wonder what was going on with Derry that they didn't win a league or championship game under Tally.
Maybe he is better as a team member like Cian O'Neill.
Tally was brought in way too late, after Derry club championships, no new players looked at or added, then alot of injuries that yr. We were improving in the All-Ireland series after a flaky exit to Donegal in Ulster. I was at all the games and they had Kerry and Dongeal beat in the nfl and should beat Galway too. I thought they looked worse this yr and still few new players.I kept him on as trainer/joint manager and bring Meenagh in, but i dont think he went for that setup.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2026, 10:17:43 AMWell folks, haven't been on here in years - checked my last post and it was just after the 2021 AI final.
Was an unbelievable match and a savage week around the county, the positivity from everyone is something else.
Nice touch to see so many posters remembering Farrandeelin and Lar just after the match, it's a pity that neither lived to see this day.
Obviously Mayo had had another low in '21. Which sucker punched even the most loyal fan. That coupled with the low quality of entertainment from watching seen many lose interest in Gaelic Football.
Quote from: tiempo on August 05, 2026, 03:23:07 PMMoran now has the dual distinction of a historic Connacht championship defeat to New York and a historic All-Ireland win on his CV, goes to show how a picture can be distorted by looking at results alone
Jack O'Connor's most famous loss to Waterford occurred on Wednesday, September 3, 2003, when his Kerry Under-21 football team suffered a shock defeat to Waterford in the Munster Under-21 final at Walsh Park.
I remember Pat Spillane bringing that up when he was appointed the first time around.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 08, 2026, 04:12:41 PMQuote from: tiempo on August 05, 2026, 04:42:03 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on August 05, 2026, 03:35:26 PMWork rate to win back possession with relentless high pressing was the foundation. 40 phases of play for Mayo and 28 of these came from Kerry possession.
Tally must have shared the Tyrone 03 DVD with him
Makes you wonder what was going on with Derry that they didn't win a league or championship game under Tally.
Think Agent Tally showed Derry the 2002 DVD
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41894356.html
Kerry midfielder Sean O'Brien is set for a lengthy spell on the sidelines having suffered an ACL injury in Beaufort's Kerry IFC match against Glenflesk on Saturday evening last.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 12, 2026, 05:22:24 PMKerry midfielder Sean O'Brien is set for a lengthy spell on the sidelines having suffered an ACL injury in Beaufort's Kerry IFC match against Glenflesk on Saturday evening last.
Another to Kerrys list. Unbelievable
Quote from: DaleCooper on August 12, 2026, 08:20:25 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on August 12, 2026, 05:22:24 PMKerry midfielder Sean O'Brien is set for a lengthy spell on the sidelines having suffered an ACL injury in Beaufort's Kerry IFC match against Glenflesk on Saturday evening last.
Another to Kerrys list. Unbelievable
Can't blame that on Cian O'Neill.
Its turned into All about the money with Gaelic fball too.
Quote from: marty34 on August 12, 2026, 09:08:49 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on August 12, 2026, 08:20:25 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on August 12, 2026, 05:22:24 PMKerry midfielder Sean O'Brien is set for a lengthy spell on the sidelines having suffered an ACL injury in Beaufort's Kerry IFC match against Glenflesk on Saturday evening last.
Another to Kerrys list. Unbelievable
Can't blame that on Cian O'Neill.
Why not?
David Brady
https://youtu.be/cjQdH6SB1OE?is=FJySQFmwST4mCWkS
It's taken me 30 years but I've gone back and watched the "highlight" reels from 1996
It absolutely boggles the mind that Mayo couldn't win either of those games-like shocking beyond belief
Even after McHale got sent off in the replay we went up by 6 points only to let it slip away at the death
Anyways often in the history of time great feats get exaggerated but I have to say, fair play to Colm Coyle for kicking the equalizing point in the drawn game. He was essentially in his own half when he took that shot
Meanwhile after Meath got the go ahead score in the replay, 1 if not 2 Mayo players could have taken a shot-instead passed it to a man who was essentially surrounded who couldn't get a shot off
The fkn "Irish" Independent is at it already....
"50 best footballers of the best Championship ever"
By a Frank Roche who must be taking over from Breheny!
I can't read it thank God.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 15, 2026, 09:42:26 AMThe fkn "Irish" Independent is at it already....
"50 best footballers of the best Championship ever"
By a Frank Roche who must be taking over from Breheny!
I can't read it thank God.
I think complaining about a newspaper article you can't read is the most Rossfan thing ever.
Quote from: trileacman on August 15, 2026, 09:12:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 15, 2026, 09:42:26 AMThe fkn "Irish" Independent is at it already....
"50 best footballers of the best Championship ever"
By a Frank Roche who must be taking over from Breheny!
I can't read it thank God.
I think complaining about a newspaper article you can't read is the most Rossfan thing ever.
Think the point is more that the Indo constantly comes up with these pointless "best of" lists and publishes them in the name of journalism. Who the f**k wants to read that shite like?
Quote from: Rossfan on August 15, 2026, 09:42:26 AMThe fkn "Irish" Independent is at it already....
"50 best footballers of the best Championship ever"
By a Frank Roche who must be taking over from Breheny!
I can't read it thank God.
The paper comes out all year round, the GAA does not provide anything to talk about, so they fill the space.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 15, 2026, 11:13:41 PMQuote from: Rossfan on August 15, 2026, 09:42:26 AMThe fkn "Irish" Independent is at it already....
"50 best footballers of the best Championship ever"
By a Frank Roche who must be taking over from Breheny!
I can't read it thank God.
The paper comes out all year round, the GAA does not provide anything to talk about, so they fill the space.
How many club games were played across the country in the last week? Be too much like work to cover a few of those
Exactly!
I miss it already. Bearna Na Forbacha vs Maigh Cuillin or Turloughmore vs Athenry are not the same.
Quote from: whitey on August 13, 2026, 10:24:52 PMIt's taken me 30 years but I've gone back and watched the "highlight" reels from 1996
It absolutely boggles the mind that Mayo couldn't win either of those games-like shocking beyond belief
Even after McHale got sent off in the replay we went up by 6 points only to let it slip away at the death
Anyways often in the history of time great feats get exaggerated but I have to say, fair play to Colm Coyle for kicking the equalizing point in the drawn game. He was essentially in his own half when he took that shot
Meanwhile after Meath got the go ahead score in the replay, 1 if not 2 Mayo players could have taken a shot-instead passed it to a man who was essentially surrounded who couldn't get a shot off
Meath had the guile. Their panel contained AI winners. They played on the edge inclusive of tax. Tyrone and Mayo got harsh lessons from them that year.
They also had a lot of luck. Colm Coyles point was a punt into the forward line was a hit and hope that got lucky.
Pat Spillane All-Ireland final stat.
Five players across the two teams did not kick the ball at all during the final.
For Mayo, captain Jack Coyne, David McBrien and Bob Tuohy all finished without registering a kick. McBrien still contributed to the scoreboard, punching over a point during the contest and laying on the ball for Darragh Beirne to finish to the net.
Kerry pair Mark O'Shea and Gavin White also went through the game without kicking the ball
Joe O'Connor and Dylan Casey recorded just two kicks apiece, with both registering one kick-pass and one point. Seán O'Brien kicked the ball four times, completing two kick-passes, turning over possession with another and sending a goal chance wide.
That left five Kerry players combining for only five kick-passes across the entire All-Ireland final.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2026, 09:19:52 PMPat Spillane All-Ireland final stat.
Five players across the two teams did not kick the ball at all during the final.
For Mayo, captain Jack Coyne, David McBrien and Bob Tuohy all finished without registering a kick. McBrien still contributed to the scoreboard, punching over a point during the contest and laying on the ball for Darragh Beirne to finish to the net.
Kerry pair Mark O'Shea and Gavin White also went through the game without kicking the ball
Joe O'Connor and Dylan Casey recorded just two kicks apiece, with both registering one kick-pass and one point. Seán O'Brien kicked the ball four times, completing two kick-passes, turning over possession with another and sending a goal chance wide.
That left five Kerry players combining for only five kick-passes across the entire All-Ireland final.
You'd want to be careful with stats like those. They in the main mean nothing. You'll always have players who do loads of work off of the ball - stats rarely can quantify their contribution.
The game is good to watch and play at the moment. It's hard to believe it has been revived as a spectacle.
Spillane is into silly season now trying to fill columns. Usually he could fill this void with negativity but he has to scrape the bottom of the barrel for this....
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2026, 10:42:09 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2026, 09:19:52 PMPat Spillane All-Ireland final stat.
Five players across the two teams did not kick the ball at all during the final.
For Mayo, captain Jack Coyne, David McBrien and Bob Tuohy all finished without registering a kick. McBrien still contributed to the scoreboard, punching over a point during the contest and laying on the ball for Darragh Beirne to finish to the net.
Kerry pair Mark O'Shea and Gavin White also went through the game without kicking the ball
Joe O'Connor and Dylan Casey recorded just two kicks apiece, with both registering one kick-pass and one point. Seán O'Brien kicked the ball four times, completing two kick-passes, turning over possession with another and sending a goal chance wide.
That left five Kerry players combining for only five kick-passes across the entire All-Ireland final.
You'd want to be careful with stats like those. They in the main mean nothing. You'll always have players who do loads of work off of the ball - stats rarely can quantify their contribution.
The game is good to watch and play at the moment. It's hard to believe it has been revived as a spectacle.
Spillane is into silly season now trying to fill columns. Usually he could fill this void with negativity but he has to scrape the bottom of the barrel for this....
His point was with those stats is they may go a long way towards explaining why Mayo were so comfortable defensively. Kerry's attack lacked a meaningful kicking game.
Spillane described Kerry's build-up as slow and possession-based, arguing that an overreliance on lateral hand-passing played into Mayo's hands.
Pat, from what I can remember, always has a few stats ready, which he then shoe horns into his podcast. He'll squeeze then in mostly when it's completely off topic.
Just to get them in and to make him look as if he's 'clued in'.
Pat is right on this occasion, Kerry's style of play played into Mayo's hands. Poor auld Cian O'Neill appears to be the fall guy in the aftermath
For all the rule changes the game is still more hand than kick passing which is not what the FRC expected to see.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2026, 02:46:44 PMPat is right on this occasion, Kerry's style of play played into Mayo's hands. Poor auld Cian O'Neill appears to be the fall guy in the aftermath
For all the rule changes the game is still more hand than kick passing which is not what the FRC expected to see.
I wonder was the lack of kick passing at least in part down to Mayo's press? Obviously much easier to play a simple handpass than try to pick a kick pass when you're under pressure?
Yeah hard to get time to get the head up and kick it accurately when there's three guys bearing down on you.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 17, 2026, 03:59:27 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2026, 02:46:44 PMPat is right on this occasion, Kerry's style of play played into Mayo's hands. Poor auld Cian O'Neill appears to be the fall guy in the aftermath
For all the rule changes the game is still more hand than kick passing which is not what the FRC expected to see.
I wonder was the lack of kick passing at least in part down to Mayo's press? Obviously much easier to play a simple handpass than try to pick a kick pass when you're under pressure?
On numerous occasions they put themselves into trouble with short kick outs as tried to hand pass their way out of defence. It was like they didn't watch Mayo tactics v Louth in the build up to that final at all.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2026, 02:46:44 PMPat is right on this occasion, Kerry's style of play played into Mayo's hands. Poor auld Cian O'Neill appears to be the fall guy in the aftermath
For all the rule changes the game is still more hand than kick passing which is not what the FRC expected to see.
Hold off with the violin, he will most like jump to his seventh or eight gig in last decage or so
Cork hurlers mooted.
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2026, 11:34:40 PMPat, from what I can remember, always has a few stats ready, which he then shoe horns into his podcast. He'll squeeze then in mostly when it's completely off topic.
Just to get them in and to make him look as if he's 'clued in'.
Maurice Brosnan of the Examiner I think had a tweet up that says isn't it amazing that 2 years in a row Pat quotes what he put in his article on the AI Final.
From John McIntyre Sports Editor in the Connacht Tribute
QuoteTHERE was no blood on the walls after the Galway footballers and the team management carried out a season review in Loughgeorge last week. No blame games; no pointing of fingers; just an acceptance that what unfolded in the 2026 championship was simply not good enough.
Judging by the rumour mill over the past few weeks, you would have anticipated some friction, that there would have been a 'blow up' of sorts, but instead there were few raised voices as the county still comes to terms with another summer of under-achievement.
The vast majority of players were in attendance – 37-year-old Paul Conroy being a notable exception – while the management team also turned out in force with the exception of former Cavan goalkeeper and Raymond Galligan, who had been a surprise addition to the coaching staff last winter
With Performance Coach Darragh Sheridan conducting a survey inviting player feedback before the meeting, this was the basis for a debate largely conducted by selector/coach Dave Morris. Ultimately, players were more critical of themselves than the management for how things had panned out.
Losing their Connacht title to Roscommon at Hyde Park was hardly a fatal blow, but it did raise questions of how good this Galway team actually is. Heading into the concluding stages of their All-Ireland quarter-final against Dublin, all seemed well in the Tribesmen's world again when a John Maher goal left them eight points ahead with 13 minutes remaining.
But from there to the finish, it was a horror show for the men in maroon jerseys. Niall Scully took over, and Con O'Callaghan converted an admittedly harshly-awarded penalty as Dublin went on to outscore Galway by 1-8 to a single point in recording a 1-25 to 1-21 victory. It represented a staggering collapse.
Coming on the back of a shock quarter-final defeat by Meath 12 months previously, losing the All-Ireland finals of 2022 and '24, together with falling to Mayo in a preliminary quarter-final at Pearse Stadium in 2023, a clear pattern has emerged: Galway are being repeatedly found wanting in the matches that really count.
Winning a record-equalling four Connacht titles on the trot is fine and dandy, but provincial glory has become seriously devalued in the modern championship unless your team is a Roscommon, Westmeath or Louth for instance.
Galway's implosion against Dublin demoralised supporters, with the complete lack of leadership in those closing minutes nothing short of alarming.
It's not as if there is a lack of experience in their ranks. Eleven of the players who lined out against Kerry in the 2022 final started against the Dubs – Connor Gleeson, Jack Glynn, Dylan McHugh, Kieran Molloy John Daly, Matthew Tierney, Shane Walsh, Conroy, Rob Finnerty, Liam Silke, and Cillian McDaid – while Damien Comer and Finnian Ó Laoi were also involved in both matches. It would have been one more only for Sean Kelly being injured for this year's quarter-finals.
Maybe, that's the core of the problem. Bar Maher, Johnny McGrath, Cian Hernon, Cein D'Arcy and Matthew Thompson – an injured absentee for this year's championship – who else had broken through over the past five seasons? Galway have become reliant on largely the same players. Is there too much loyalty involved? On the other hand, it's partially understandable as the county hasn't won a provincial minor title since 2019 or an U-20 crown since 2020.
Back to Loughgeorge. Was there any white smoke at the end of the meeting? It appears unclear. Team manager Padraic Joyce did a lot of listening before seemingly not addressing whether he would see out the remaining two years of his latest term in charge. There were veiled player suggestions about employing a more dynamic tactical approach and restricting the lateral passing which has become an anathema to supporters.
But given players tend to be in self-preservation mode in such forums, none of them were ever going to stand up and demand change in personnel despite this management having lost the goodwill of most fans. Joyce can be single-minded and stubborn, but he is no fool. If support drifts away on the terraces, what next? The players won't be immune to the outside noise.
By all accounts, Joyce leads a professional management whose commitment is beyond reproach, but he's seven years in the job and the criticism is mounting. The killing thing is that Galway are not that far away – Dublin had the chances to beat Kerry in the semi-final a fortnight later – but Mayo coming from almost nowhere for a fairytale triumph makes the Galway situation look worse.
The new champions have set the template for the way the game is going to be played in the future. A high press; attacking at speed; and shooting for sport. Have this Galway squad got the legs to maintain such a tempo for 70 plus minutes? Given their age profile, it's doubtful.
What happens now? Joyce will be meeting GAA officials in due course and though he retains the strong support of the chairman, Paul Bellew, others may press for alterations to his backroom team. The expectation is that Joyce will stay on, but he won't want to be backed into a corner.
Unfortunately, while this uncertainty continues it has created a vacuum where all sorts of nonsense is being pedalled, notably that Joyce was supposed to have resigned three weeks ago; that he lost a player vote 37 to five when he wouldn't alter his coaching set up; and that ex-Dublin boss Jim Gavin is on his way west.
One way or another, Galway needs to sort out who is going to be their football manager for 2027 – and quickly!
https://x.com/RefComeOn/status/2090863561002103148
Kobe got 600 points in the leaving cert All from play
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2026, 05:54:51 PMFrom John McIntyre Sports Editor in the Connacht Tribute
Provincial and All Ireland winning under age teams are over-rated for providing a cluster of top senior players.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2026, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2026, 05:54:51 PMFrom John McIntyre Sports Editor in the Connacht Tribute
Provincial and All Ireland winning under age teams are over-rated for providing a cluster of top senior players.
If your point is underage is about development of players than just winning titles then I'd agree.
Mayo from their starting 15 in All-Ireland final/winning team had McDonald,O'Donoghue,Beirne,Flynn, D O'Connor, McGreal etc who won at least a provincial title. Others development path to senior was done without county underage success.
Of the All-Ireland winners I've seen over the years only Armagh 2024 didn't have a handful of players that first won Underage titles, from what I recall I think they had just two or three and that was underage success and that back in 2009.
County that filtered their Underage success best has been Dublin with the majority of their 6 in a row team first having won titles at underage level.
Tyrone and Laois from earlier in the century. You'd imagine Kerry had a right few from those four in a row minor teams propping up the seniors too.
As you say Armagh probably the team with least underage success making it through to senior. They have had the odd bit but it hasn't coincided with senior success. (Was it 09 or round then and maybe 05 ish u21?)
The Tyrone ones had Harte as their minor and then U21 manager too.
2/3rds Kerry team minor medals.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2026, 10:28:29 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2026, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2026, 05:54:51 PMFrom John McIntyre Sports Editor in the Connacht Tribute
Provincial and All Ireland winning under age teams are over-rated for providing a cluster of top senior players.
If your point is underage is about development of players than just winning titles then I'd agree.
Mayo from their starting 15 in All-Ireland final/winning team had McDonald,O'Donoghue,Beirne,Flynn, D O'Connor, McGreal etc who won at least a provincial title. Others development path to senior was done without county underage success.
Of the All-Ireland winners I've seen over the years only Armagh 2024 didn't have a handful of players that first won Underage titles, from what I recall I think they had just two or three and that was underage success and that back in 2009.
County that filtered their Underage success best has been Dublin with the majority of their 6 in a row team first having won titles at underage level.
Closest thing to success at underage was Rian O'Neill/Callum O'Neill/Ross McQullians age that were beat by Tyrone in an Ulster u20 final, we've done little or nothing since 2009 at underage bar was it 2024 minors getting to an Ulster and All Ireland final but losing to Derry both times.
Our successful noughties team was backboned by a strong u21's team with Paul McGrane and our strong team of recent years was largely made up theg strong u20 team and boosted by that 09 minor team with Grugan, Murnin etc,
Maybe the world has changed and some players who don't get a chance to represent their county at underage can get a chance later on
I know a lad who got dropped from an underage development squad, but was told to be ready for a callback at any time. As a result he essentially does all the same S&C (on his own) as the lads who are on the development squad
Quote from: whitey on August 23, 2026, 01:10:13 PMMaybe the world has changed and some players who don't get a chance to represent their county at underage can get a chance later on
I know a lad who got dropped from an underage development squad, but was told to be ready for a callback at any time. As a result he essentially does all the same S&C (on his own) as the lads who are on the development squad
That's true, know of a few in Armagh with similar stories, Soupy was dropped from that 09 minor panel, Jemar Hall and Aidan Nugent were both sent away to do a pile of work on their own before breaking into the county squad. All 3 turned out very good players.
Was it Fenton that didn't make the Dublin minor team?
Breheny filling his paper again
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaa/fifty-50-part-1-ranking-the-50-best-all-ireland-final-displays-of-the-last-50-years/a/160291313.html
Irish Examiner running an article saying the majority of inter-county football referees believe Ryan O'Donoghue should have been sent off in the 1st half of the All-Ireland final and Jack Coynes yellow card could have been red.
The ref Martin McNally added along with Cian O'Neill and strength and conditioning coach Jason McGahan as project scapegoating for Kerry's All Ireland Final loss to Mayo continues.
"A majority of inter-county football referees believe Ryan O'Donoghue should have been sent off in Mayo's All-Ireland SFC final win over Kerry.
In a meeting last Thursday, members of the championship panel reviewed a selection of incidents from the closing games of the championship. One of them was O'Donoghue's late shoulder on David Clifford in the final minute of the first half"
O'Donoghue made contact with David Clifford's head area after the Kerry forward had passed the ball to Tom O'Sullivan in the build-up to a Joe O'Connor point. Clifford required medical attention following the incident and O'Donoghue, who was later awarded man of the match, avoided punishment.
It was the opinion of referees at the meeting that McNally, who was not in attendance, should have issued a red card for what they considered a reckless foul.
Jack Coyne's foul on Kerry defender Dylan Casey in the 28th minute was also highlighted but the views of referees were more varied. Coyne swung with a closed fist and connected with Dylan Casey after the Kerry defender had lowered himself to retrieve the ball from Paudie Clifford. Casey required medical treatment, was temporarily replaced by Evan Looney and Coyne was booked for the incident.
Speaking at Kerry's homecoming in Tralee the day after the final, manager Jack O'Connor felt "marginal calls" had gone against Kerry but made no specific references.
"That extra bit of hunger that Mayo had and a few tight, marginal calls went their way. You have to say that on balance they deserved it and if anyone was going to beat us you can't begrudge Mayo after 75 years, so congratulations to them."
Referees are asked about such incidents as a means of ascertaining there is consensus about the application of the rulebook. A review of the closing games in this year's All-Ireland senior hurling championship will take place later this week.
The general opinion following the game was McNally performed well in his first All-Ireland SFC decider, although he missed Darragh Beirne's double hop before scoring a point early in the second half.
There were also claims he didn't see a similar technical foul by Seán O'Shea prior to his 23rd minute point. However, it appeared his first bounce was an attempt to get the ball under control.
Football referees were also briefed on the experimental rules that will be enforced in this year's third level Division 1 league (Ryan Cup).