In years past, this fixture would have generated 100 pages on its own. Times have changed somewhat however still expecting a feisty confrontation on April 12th with NFL form counting for nothing.
Are Tyrone in the long grass ideally positioned for an ambush despite the bookies having Armagh as big favourites?
Any word on tickets going on sale as yet?
Turkey shoot inbound, 10+ points
Quote from: balladmaker on March 31, 2026, 02:28:31 PMIn years past, this fixture would have generated 100 pages on its own. Times have changed somewhat however still expecting a feisty confrontation on April 12th with NFL form counting for nothing.
Are Tyrone in the long grass ideally positioned for an ambush despite the bookies having Armagh as big favourites?
Any word on tickets going on sale as yet?
No, Tyrone at present don't have the physicality or the forwards to beat Armagh. Maybe in a few years.
Tickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I agree, Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass, can you imagine the team talks after training getting ready for this match. Tyrone will be loving this as underdogs and will not be easily beaten. I do expect Armagh to win but wouldn't rule out a draw or wouldn't be shocked if we are beat. This is not Antrim or Fermanagh, this is Tyrone and they should be rightly feared.
They shouldn't be feared... Respected maybe...
We're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
Expecting nothing less than a comprehensive Armagh win. On paper tyrone might have players to challenge Armagh however they dont have the right attitude and have not played well for a full 70mins this year.
We have conceded goals in every division 2 game bar one. Our star player wanted to leave to go travelling.
Not looking forward to this one at all.
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 31, 2026, 05:41:39 PMExpecting nothing less than a comprehensive Armagh win. On paper tyrone might have players to challenge Armagh however they dont have the right attitude and have not played well for a full 70mins this year.
Mind you, Armagh have not played for 70 mins either, but when they got going they have been decent.
I still don't see how this team, if it lined out somewhere close to this, isn't in the mix against Armagh.
1. Niall Morgan
2. Joey Clarke
3. Paudie Hampsey
4. Niall Devlin
5. Michael McKernan
6. Peter Teague
7. Seanie O'Donnell
8. Brian Kennedy
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Joe Oguz
11. Eoin McElholm
12. Ronan Cassidy
13. Darren McCurry
14. Darragh Canavan
15. Mattie Donnelly
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
That's grand for the ticket scrum but how will the game pan out....
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 05:15:08 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
What actually happened?
Friend of mine was in Carton house and said he saw McGeeney rip into some hotel manager.
On the game, with the size of the squad Armagh carry and the quality we always hear about from within even the 2nd/3rd string, this should be an absolute hammering of a Tyrone team that just about managed to stay in Div2.
Realistically we are 10 points worse a team than last year. Only for some absolute worldies from McCurry last year we would have been beaten by 5-6 points. With his current form in the doldrums, P Harte and R Brennan gone and McKernan and Morgan both falling foul of the management there's next to now way Tyrone will win this.
I haven't seen much of Armagh this year so can't speak as of where they're at but if they can operate at 75% of last years performances they win this pulling up.
Edit: Just checked McCurry got 0-10 last year and McKernan was in All-star form. They're going nowhere near that level now and the guys we've replaced them with are miles off it.
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 01, 2026, 12:20:16 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 05:15:08 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
What actually happened?
Friend of mine was in Carton house and said he saw McGeeney rip into some hotel manager.
On the game, with the size of the squad Armagh carry and the quality we always hear about from within even the 2nd/3rd string, this should be an absolute hammering of a Tyrone team that just about managed to stay in Div2.
Cute hoorism is abit played out by now ;)
As usual there weren't be much in it either way between them (there hardly ever is regardless of form).
Home game is an advantage though for Armagh imo.
Armagh by 50 points. Geezer to give the lads a pint each at half time as reward.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 01, 2026, 12:54:17 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 01, 2026, 12:20:16 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 05:15:08 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
What actually happened?
Friend of mine was in Carton house and said he saw McGeeney rip into some hotel manager.
On the game, with the size of the squad Armagh carry and the quality we always hear about from within even the 2nd/3rd string, this should be an absolute hammering of a Tyrone team that just about managed to stay in Div2.
Cute hoorism is abit played out by now ;)
In all seriousness - I'd be really surprised if there is not at least 10pts in it.
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 01, 2026, 01:59:16 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 01, 2026, 12:54:17 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 01, 2026, 12:20:16 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 05:15:08 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
What actually happened?
Friend of mine was in Carton house and said he saw McGeeney rip into some hotel manager.
On the game, with the size of the squad Armagh carry and the quality we always hear about from within even the 2nd/3rd string, this should be an absolute hammering of a Tyrone team that just about managed to stay in Div2.
Cute hoorism is abit played out by now ;)
In all seriousness - I'd be really surprised if there is not at least 10pts in it.
Hopefully so!
But as someone posted earlier, theres still a strong Tyrone team there who will relish being in the long grass and at the end of the day less than 12 months ago took Armagh right to the wire. Hopefully this year Geezer will leave the poor flags alone and McCurry won't shoot the lights out.
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 01, 2026, 12:20:16 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 05:15:08 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
What actually happened?
Friend of mine was in Carton house and said he saw McGeeney rip into some hotel manager.
On the game, with the size of the squad Armagh carry and the quality we always hear about from within even the 2nd/3rd string, this should be an absolute hammering of a Tyrone team that just about managed to stay in Div2.
The strength in depth isn't there at the moment and certainly not what is was when won the AI. This was evident in the Kerry league game with Geezer bringing boys off and back on. Those praising Armagh's depth in 2024 where right to do so had serious subs coming on.
Tyrone will never roll over against Armagh and will be a tight game. League football is league football.
Quote from: statto on April 01, 2026, 03:55:05 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 01, 2026, 12:20:16 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 05:15:08 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:08:09 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 04:17:15 PMWe're in bother, Man United hijacked our training weekend, mess!
It's a bit shite of Carton House to have the Armagh booking and not honour it in full, given that it was 10 days before the Man U one.
Yep. Wouldn't have liked to be the one giving Geezer that news!
Likely not go back, I'm sure Carton house will miss the tens of thousands they're getting every year from those trips
What actually happened?
Friend of mine was in Carton house and said he saw McGeeney rip into some hotel manager.
On the game, with the size of the squad Armagh carry and the quality we always hear about from within even the 2nd/3rd string, this should be an absolute hammering of a Tyrone team that just about managed to stay in Div2.
The strength in depth isn't there at the moment and certainly not what is was when won the AI. This was evident in the Kerry league game with Geezer bringing boys off and back on. Those praising Armagh's depth in 2024 where right to do so had serious subs coming on.
Tyrone will never roll over against Armagh and will be a tight game. League football is league football.
He knows that I'm sure. If boys get back fit theres a solid 15 and impact off the bench but not what it was 2 years ago. Grugan, Murnin, McElroy, Mackin and McCambridge would be huge additions if their injuries clear up.
Obviously Rian would put us right up there as an All Ireland contender but isn't looking likely we have him at this stage.
Perfectly set up for a Tyrone ambush. Armagh could well have another one of those games whereby 5 or 6 big goal chances will be created and none scored.
Quote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
10 points is a bit much. I'd think we'll lose by 5-6 points and would be surprised if we lead at any time after 30 minutes.
Tyrone actually have a slew of very good players and if they can throw off the shackles the management have put around them then they'll be nowhere near 10 points adrift.
Armagh very hard to beat at home!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2026, 06:48:35 PMArmagh very hard to beat at home!
Fancy tyrone to nick this one but don't think they'll have enough to beat donegal. Winning against armagh though should keep the natives happy with their outside manager after a very poor campaign.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2026, 06:48:35 PMArmagh very hard to beat at home!
Tyrone could win a bit like Galway did in the league, where it was hard to see how exactly Armagh lost, but Galway were a point ahead at the final whistle.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2026, 06:48:35 PMArmagh very hard to beat at home!
They lost 2 of their 3 league games at home.
I think this is a real no win game for Armagh that they really need to find a way to get through.
All the pressure on Armagh following a mixed league. Tyrone with no pressure now that passage to the all Ireland is assured. They also have a very good team that could click on any given day.
Armagh really need to win to get at least one more competitive games for players returning from injury.
Win and all you'll hear is Tyrone are out of sorts. Lose and it's a very difficult season.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2026, 05:44:18 PMQuote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
Quote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMThey were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
When Armagh were 11 points behind Dublin they were in danger of relegation. Donegal were Ulster champs last year, Tyrone beat them in a group game post celebrations.
I don't think Armagh believe this is an easy matter, they have played well in short spells but have made life hard for themselves also.
People can keep buying into the hype around Armagh all they want, but it says more about wishful thinking than reality. They're being talked up like contenders off the back of moments, not substance. Tyrone, on the other hand, actually know how to win when it matters — and when the pressure hits, Armagh won't just lose, they'll be found out.
I'll take the 13/5. Canavan 3:7
Quote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2026, 05:44:18 PMQuote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 02, 2026, 06:43:46 AMQuote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMThey were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
When Armagh were 11 points behind Dublin they were in danger of relegation. Donegal were Ulster champs last year, Tyrone beat them in a group game post celebrations.
I don't think Armagh believe this is an easy matter, they have played well in short spells but have made life hard for themselves also.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 02, 2026, 06:43:46 AMQuote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMThey were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
When Armagh were 11 points behind Dublin they were in danger of relegation. Donegal were Ulster champs last year, Tyrone beat them in a group game post celebrations.
I don't think Armagh believe this is an easy matter, they have played well in short spells but have made life hard for themselves also.
Tyrone hammered Donegal fair and square last year. A McGuiness team isnt going to be caught celebrating a wee Ulster title a week after winning an one, never mind two.
Quote from: trileacman on April 01, 2026, 12:30:56 PMRealistically we are 10 points worse a team than last year. Only for some absolute worldies from McCurry last year we would have been beaten by 5-6 points. With his current form in the doldrums, P Harte and R Brennan gone and McKernan and Morgan both falling foul of the management there's next to now way Tyrone will win this.
I haven't seen much of Armagh this year so can't speak as of where they're at but if they can operate at 75% of last years performances they win this pulling up.
Edit: Just checked McCurry got 0-10 last year and McKernan was in All-star form. They're going nowhere near that level now and the guys we've replaced them with are miles off it.
What is the story with McKernan he doesn't seem a regular starter I think he's an excellent player and this game would be made for him.
Quote from: statto on April 02, 2026, 07:48:34 AMQuote from: trileacman on April 01, 2026, 12:30:56 PMRealistically we are 10 points worse a team than last year. Only for some absolute worldies from McCurry last year we would have been beaten by 5-6 points. With his current form in the doldrums, P Harte and R Brennan gone and McKernan and Morgan both falling foul of the management there's next to now way Tyrone will win this.
I haven't seen much of Armagh this year so can't speak as of where they're at but if they can operate at 75% of last years performances they win this pulling up.
Edit: Just checked McCurry got 0-10 last year and McKernan was in All-star form. They're going nowhere near that level now and the guys we've replaced them with are miles off it.
What is the story with McKernan he doesn't seem a regular starter I think he's an excellent player and this game would be made for him.
Didn't he get a bad enough facial injury earlier in the year?
Lads, C'mon. We all know the league is parked and now it's a different competition, players are coming back from injury and players just love the firmer ground to play on. There are good solid all rounders who play consistent in all weather and pitches and there are players who are just made for summer football and the harder ground.
Tyrone will love the fact that the league is over and park it, time to move onto Ulster Championship and what better way to start against your neighbours and as the underdog. They will be chomping at the bit and Armagh will be lucky to get through this, home advantage and playing Div 1 football should just nick this for Armagh but as i stated a few days ago a draw or Tyrone win will not be a big shock to anyone.
Rory Grugan, Barry McCambridge and hopefully some fitnes into Aaron McKay should help...who else am i missing that's out injured?.
Quote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 09:59:25 AMLads, C'mon. We all know the league is parked and now it's a different competition, players are coming back from injury and players just love the firmer ground to play on. There are good solid all rounders who play consistent in all weather and pitches and there are players who are just made for summer football and the harder ground.
Tyrone will love the fact that the league is over and park it, time to move onto Ulster Championship and what better way to start against your neighbours and as the underdog. They will be chomping at the bit and Armagh will be lucky to get through this, home advantage and playing Div 1 football should just nick this for Armagh but as i stated a few days ago a draw or Tyrone win will not be a big shock to anyone.
Rory Grugan, Barry McCambridge and hopefully some fitnes into Aaron McKay should help...who else am i missing that's out injured?.
Joe McElroy (will find it hard to get into that half forward or half back line at the minute, as highly as I rate him) Murnin shouldnt be far away.
Ciaran Mackin as well I think is close enough to being back.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 08:29:31 AMQuote from: statto on April 02, 2026, 07:48:34 AMQuote from: trileacman on April 01, 2026, 12:30:56 PMRealistically we are 10 points worse a team than last year. Only for some absolute worldies from McCurry last year we would have been beaten by 5-6 points. With his current form in the doldrums, P Harte and R Brennan gone and McKernan and Morgan both falling foul of the management there's next to now way Tyrone will win this.
I haven't seen much of Armagh this year so can't speak as of where they're at but if they can operate at 75% of last years performances they win this pulling up.
Edit: Just checked McCurry got 0-10 last year and McKernan was in All-star form. They're going nowhere near that level now and the guys we've replaced them with are miles off it.
What is the story with McKernan he doesn't seem a regular starter I think he's an excellent player and this game would be made for him.
Didn't he get a bad enough facial injury earlier in the year?
Yeah he got a bad knock to the head in the first game but his form hasn't been great in any game he has played this year. I would be 100% certain he will be starting next weekend though. Type of game that he will thrive in.
Quote from: square_ball on April 02, 2026, 10:33:34 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 08:29:31 AMQuote from: statto on April 02, 2026, 07:48:34 AMQuote from: trileacman on April 01, 2026, 12:30:56 PMRealistically we are 10 points worse a team than last year. Only for some absolute worldies from McCurry last year we would have been beaten by 5-6 points. With his current form in the doldrums, P Harte and R Brennan gone and McKernan and Morgan both falling foul of the management there's next to now way Tyrone will win this.
I haven't seen much of Armagh this year so can't speak as of where they're at but if they can operate at 75% of last years performances they win this pulling up.
Edit: Just checked McCurry got 0-10 last year and McKernan was in All-star form. They're going nowhere near that level now and the guys we've replaced them with are miles off it.
What is the story with McKernan he doesn't seem a regular starter I think he's an excellent player and this game would be made for him.
Didn't he get a bad enough facial injury earlier in the year?
Yeah he got a bad knock to the head in the first game but his form hasn't been great in any game he has played this year. I would be 100% certain he will be starting next weekend though. Type of game that he will thrive in.
Serious good player- sort of boy thats a hateful dirty fecker if he's playing against you but the type you'd absolutely love on your team. Do they put him on McMullen or Conaty?
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 10:39:42 AMQuote from: square_ball on April 02, 2026, 10:33:34 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 08:29:31 AMDidn't he get a bad enough facial injury earlier in the year?
Yeah he got a bad knock to the head in the first game but his form hasn't been great in any game he has played this year. I would be 100% certain he will be starting next weekend though. Type of game that he will thrive in.
Serious good player- sort of boy thats a hateful dirty fecker if he's playing against you but the type you'd absolutely love on your team. Do they put him on McMullen or Conaty?
I'd expect Niall Devlin to start on Conaty but not sure who we would have for McMullan. They might look to put the likes of Seanie O'Donnell on McMullan but then he may be needed further forward to track McQuillan or Burns. A lot of fires to put out in that Armagh team with the pace they have.
The inconsistency of this Armagh team is there for all to see and that leads to the worries for the Armagh support. If Armagh play like they did for the first twenty minutes of the Kerry game and the first half of the Dublin game they will be beaten by Tyrone. They're not isolated either when you look at parts of the Mayo and Roscommon games, the whole league really. I don't think anyone from Armagh is poor mouthing.
On the other hand, if we play like we have done in the other parts of the games throughout the league we could beat anyone in the country. Very few teams could have given that Kerry team a 10 point start and come back the way we did.
Our summer will hinge on the availability of our injured players.
I would say inconsistent is the wrong way to describe them. Some players have been inconsistent I suppose.
Having watched all their league games, bar Mayo, they are slow starters. In each game, bar Monaghan, they have surrendered huge leads to their opposition and have spent the game clawing them back.
Slow starters would be a better term perhaps?
They are playing a good brand of football to be fair. The biggest concern I would have would be the goals they have been shipping, and scores in general.
If Tyrone have players that can run at the Armagh back line at pace, they will get a lot of reward from that. If the likes of Canavan is out around the half forward line and on the ball, Armagh will have problems. If he is playing too deep and the ball going in is too slow, he may aswell sit on the sidelines.
Experience may be another factor. Armagh's injuries leave them with some experienced players on the sidelines. I suspect some of those close league games may have gone their way if they had these players available.
It will be a nothing less than a double digit victory for Armagh.
Realistically they should be going out to try and better the 18pt hammering Tyrone give them in 2017.
Quote from: Estimator on April 02, 2026, 11:48:39 AMIt will be a nothing less than a double digit victory for Armagh.
Realistically they should be going out to try and better the 18pt hammering Tyrone give them in 2017.
I wish!
Would not be one bit surprised if it came down to another buzzer beater to win it!
Knew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench
Quote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 12:06:50 PMKnew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Murnin
McCormack
McMullen
McCabbe
Conaty
Duffy
McConville
Mackin maybe instead of Duffy in that workhorse role? O O'Neill and Turbo brilliant bench options and Grugan if fit
Quote from: Estimator on April 02, 2026, 11:48:39 AMRealistically they should be going out to try and better the 18pt hammering Tyrone give them in 2017.
I had closed that door in my memory and you opened it!😱
However, only Blaine Hughes in goal played that day and in 2026 to date, although Rory Grugan played then and may well make the team in the championship this year.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 12:50:18 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 12:06:50 PMKnew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Murnin
McCormack
McMullen
McCabbe
Conaty
Duffy
McConville
Mackin maybe instead of Duffy in that workhorse role? O O'Neill and Turbo brilliant bench options and Grugan if fit
Forker or Grugan available?
Quote from: Mikhailov on April 02, 2026, 01:58:11 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 12:50:18 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 12:06:50 PMKnew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Murnin
McCormack
McMullen
McCabbe
Conaty
Duffy
McConville
Mackin maybe instead of Duffy in that workhorse role? O O'Neill and Turbo brilliant bench options and Grugan if fit
Forker or Grugan available?
Forker been named in the last few squads but only minutes he got were against Dublin well into injury time I think.
Not sure about Grugan.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 12:50:18 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 12:06:50 PMKnew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Murnin
McCormack
McMullen
McCabbe
Conaty
Duffy
McConville
Mackin maybe instead of Duffy in that workhorse role? O O'Neill and Turbo brilliant bench options and Grugan if fit
I wouldn't have thought the McGrane/McCambridge selection would normally be a debate but:
1. Hard to know where McCambridge is fitness wise.
2. McGrane would be well suited to some of the smaller Tyrone forwards. (Did a good job on O'Donoghue in the Mayo game.)
Quote from: statto on April 02, 2026, 03:09:28 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 12:50:18 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 12:06:50 PMKnew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Murnin
McCormack
McMullen
McCabbe
Conaty
Duffy
McConville
Mackin maybe instead of Duffy in that workhorse role? O O'Neill and Turbo brilliant bench options and Grugan if fit
I wouldn't have thought the McGrane/McCambridge selection would normally be a debate but:
1. Hard to know where McCambridge is fitness wise.
2. McGrane would be well suited to some of the smaller Tyrone forwards. (Did a good job on O'Donoghue in the Mayo game.)
Yeah it probably won't come down to a choice between the 2 just personally I'd have McCambridge over McGrane if fit. Realistically McGrane will be starting
Jason Duffy doesn't do enough for me tbh, last 15 mins for me. If everyone is fit i'd be going for...
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Mackin (if fit enough)
Murnin
McMullen
McCabe
Conaty
O'Neill
McConville
Which leaves Grugan, McCormack, Joey McIlroy, McGrane or McCambridge, Duffy, Turbitt etc from the bench which is strong enough bench. I'm sure I've left someone out, I always do.
Quote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 05:34:28 PMJason Duffy doesn't do enough for me tbh, last 15 mins for me. If everyone is fit i'd be going for...
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Mackin (if fit enough)
Murnin
McMullen
McCabe
Conaty
O'Neill
McConville
Which leaves Grugan, McCormack, Joey McIlroy, McGrane or McCambridge, Duffy, Turbitt etc from the bench which is strong enough bench. I'm sure I've left someone out, I always do.
Could see Mackin on bench
Grugan or mc Elroy starting and mc cabe around the middle with murnin
Would like grugan for frees
Also think Murphy and mc.Cormick had strong leagues
Quote from: naka on April 02, 2026, 05:40:23 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 05:34:28 PMJason Duffy doesn't do enough for me tbh, last 15 mins for me. If everyone is fit i'd be going for...
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Mackin (if fit enough)
Murnin
McMullen
McCabe
Conaty
O'Neill
McConville
Which leaves Grugan, McCormack, Joey McIlroy, McGrane or McCambridge, Duffy, Turbitt etc from the bench which is strong enough bench. I'm sure I've left someone out, I always do.
Could see Mackin on bench
Grugan or mc Elroy starting and mc cabe around the middle with murnin
Would like grugan for frees
Also think Murphy and mc.Cormick had strong leagues
Forgot about him somehow, had a good league and did very well on Sean O'Shea.
The thing is even if those fellas aren't fit for 70 minutes getting 3 or 4 them back gives Armagh a strong bench again which more than any one player is probably Armagh's biggest strength over the last few years. They are probably the county that is most stronger than the sum of its parts.
It also allows for greater options for balance. Arguably Armagh started the last day with 9 defenders 1 midfielder and 4 forwards. The substitution brought much better balance and Armagh came back into the game. I don't think that was unconnected.
It's great that the championship is back.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 05:55:27 PMQuote from: naka on April 02, 2026, 05:40:23 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 05:34:28 PMJason Duffy doesn't do enough for me tbh, last 15 mins for me. If everyone is fit i'd be going for...
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Mackin (if fit enough)
Murnin
McMullen
McCabe
Conaty
O'Neill
McConville
Which leaves Grugan, McCormack, Joey McIlroy, McGrane or McCambridge, Duffy, Turbitt etc from the bench which is strong enough bench. I'm sure I've left someone out, I always do.
Could see Mackin on bench
Grugan or mc Elroy starting and mc cabe around the middle with murnin
Would like grugan for frees
Also think Murphy and mc.Cormick had strong leagues
Forgot about him somehow, had a good league and did very well on Sean O'Shea.
I think Murphy will start clearly highly thought of if given the O'Shea job given what he did to Armagh in Croke Park last year and think he started all league games. Could be given the job on Ethan Jordan Tyrone's big two point threat.
Will Jordan start? Didn't see all that much of Tyrone in the league but of what I did I didn't think he looked the most mobile.
Quote from: statto on April 03, 2026, 07:51:50 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 02, 2026, 05:55:27 PMQuote from: naka on April 02, 2026, 05:40:23 PMQuote from: illdecide on April 02, 2026, 05:34:28 PMJason Duffy doesn't do enough for me tbh, last 15 mins for me. If everyone is fit i'd be going for...
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane
McQuillan
TK
Burns
Crealey
Mackin (if fit enough)
Murnin
McMullen
McCabe
Conaty
O'Neill
McConville
Which leaves Grugan, McCormack, Joey McIlroy, McGrane or McCambridge, Duffy, Turbitt etc from the bench which is strong enough bench. I'm sure I've left someone out, I always do.
Could see Mackin on bench
Grugan or mc Elroy starting and mc cabe around the middle with murnin
Would like grugan for frees
Also think Murphy and mc.Cormick had strong leagues
Forgot about him somehow, had a good league and did very well on Sean O'Shea.
I think Murphy will start clearly highly thought of if given the O'Shea job given what he did to Armagh in Croke Park last year and think he started all league games. Could be given the job on Ethan Jordan Tyrone's big two point threat.
Yeah you're right hard to see him being dropped, tough enough team to pick, good to have a few more options now and hopefully more to come back.
Quote from: David McKeown on April 02, 2026, 06:07:39 PMThe thing is even if those fellas aren't fit for 70 minutes getting 3 or 4 them back gives Armagh a strong bench again which more than any one player is probably Armagh's biggest strength over the last few years. They are probably the county that is most stronger than the sum of its parts.
It also allows for greater options for balance. Arguably Armagh started the last day with 9 defenders 1 midfielder and 4 forwards. The substitution brought much better balance and Armagh came back into the game. I don't think that was unconnected.
100% David, I said at the time is it any wonder we're getting beat out the park with the teams shape and positions all over the place. When Oisin and C Turbitt were introduced our whole dynamics changed and we looked like a proper team again. I get that those lads were injured and probably could not have started but what a difference they made to the team when brought on. Injuries seem to be clearing up but unfortunately the guys coming back from injury cannot be expected to slot straight back in, they will not be sharp nor match fit which is my worry.
Morgan
Quinn Hampsey Teague
Seanie Devlin mckernan
McDonnell Brian
Daly conn Mcgeary
Darragh Mattie Jordan
Personal opinion.
Ruairi C, Joey Clarke, mccurry, Cassidy, Mcelholm, oguz, Aidy Clarke, mccullagh, aodhan Donaghy, Mcgarrity
honourable mentions
Canavan 3.7
All being well we should beat Tyrone but I would be lying if I sai I wasn't at all worried or concerns about what Tyrone can bring. The team made above is strong and. Canavan can do a lot of damage
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 02, 2026, 07:38:01 AMQuote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2026, 05:44:18 PMQuote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.
Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.
Quote from: ranch on April 04, 2026, 01:35:02 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 02, 2026, 07:38:01 AMQuote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2026, 05:44:18 PMQuote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.
Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.
Wasn't there still an (extremely) outside chance if Cavan and Kildare had won on the last day of Tyrone going down? Cavan to 6 points, Kildare and Tyrone to 5 in which case it would have been down to score difference as the 2 drew. I accept obviously it would have taken a big swing in score difference.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2026, 05:54:44 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on March 31, 2026, 05:41:39 PMExpecting nothing less than a comprehensive Armagh win. On paper tyrone might have players to challenge Armagh however they dont have the right attitude and have not played well for a full 70mins this year.
Mind you, Armagh have not played for 70 mins either, but when they got going they have been decent.
Bit different when one team is in division 1 and the other is in division 2 and the only teams we've beat so far are the ones below us so basically division 3 teams are our match. If it's within 10 points I'd be shocked nearly
Quote from: ranch on April 04, 2026, 01:35:02 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 02, 2026, 07:38:01 AMQuote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2026, 05:44:18 PMQuote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.
Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.
Lucky to beat Offaly when it was 0-28 to 2-13 a bit of a stretch as well here. Would expect Armagh to win but the local derby factor will keep it close, as bad as Tyrone's league was the general public here will not accept rolling over in the Athletic Grounds by 10+ points, most people I talk to are expecting them to give a decent rattle even though form doesn't suggest this. Armagh haven't got it handy against us too often and vice versa
Quote from: ClubScene13 on April 04, 2026, 08:19:52 AMQuote from: ranch on April 04, 2026, 01:35:02 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 02, 2026, 07:38:01 AMQuote from: ranch on April 02, 2026, 03:18:55 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2026, 05:44:18 PMQuote from: ranch on April 01, 2026, 12:00:55 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2026, 02:51:37 PMTickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.
Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.
I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.
Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?
Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.
They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.
I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.
Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.
Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.
Lucky to beat Offaly when it was 0-28 to 2-13 a bit of a stretch as well here. Would expect Armagh to win but the local derby factor will keep it close, as bad as Tyrone's league was the general public here will not accept rolling over in the Athletic Grounds by 10+ points, most people I talk to are expecting them to give a decent rattle even though form doesn't suggest this. Armagh haven't got it handy against us too often and vice versa
Yeah think the record is even enough, they beat us in was it 2023 to relegate us and beat us in the round robin as well, we beat them last year with the last kick.
Expect a hard fought game but Armagh to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view
Quote from: naka on April 04, 2026, 11:20:36 AMExpect a hard fought game but Armagh to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view
Just accept there's no Rian this year mate
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 04, 2026, 02:26:14 PMQuote from: naka on April 04, 2026, 11:20:36 AMExpect a hard fought game but Armagh to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view
Just accept there's no Rian this year mate
Yeah that's what I am hearing too unfortunately. No Grimley, Soupy or Connaire Mackin either. Decent enough squad to absorb those but may ultimately make a difference when push comes to shove
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 04, 2026, 02:26:14 PMQuote from: naka on April 04, 2026, 11:20:36 AMExpect a hard fought game but Armagh to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view
Just accept there's no Rian this year mate
I think so, but while we may come close his absence could just prevent us winning again.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 04, 2026, 09:58:04 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on April 04, 2026, 02:26:14 PMQuote from: naka on April 04, 2026, 11:20:36 AMExpect a hard fought game but Armagh to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view
Just accept there's no Rian this year mate
I think so, but while we may come close his absence could just prevent us winning again.
Has it not been the same the last 3 years ?
Quote from: armaghniac on April 04, 2026, 09:58:04 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on April 04, 2026, 02:26:14 PMQuote from: naka on April 04, 2026, 11:20:36 AMExpect a hard fought game but Armagh to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view
Just accept there's no Rian this year mate
I think so, but while we may come close his absence could just prevent us winning again.
Yeah most likely. Think we definitely win Ulster last year with him.
I did hear a few weeks ago Rian would be back but I've been told nothing since.
Quote from: p3427977 on April 05, 2026, 05:22:18 PMI did hear a few weeks ago Rian would be back but I've been told nothing since.
I heard something similar that stars were aligning for a return but the same source now saying it's not a clear as it was so I think it's better we let the lad do what he needs to do. If that means come back great if it doesn't then that's grand too. Getting himself right is much more important.
Quote from: David McKeown on April 05, 2026, 08:53:41 PMQuote from: p3427977 on April 05, 2026, 05:22:18 PMI did hear a few weeks ago Rian would be back but I've been told nothing since.
I heard something similar that stars were aligning for a return but the same source now saying it's not a clear as it was so I think it's better we let the lad do what he needs to do. If that means come back great if it doesn't then that's grand too. Getting himself right is much more important.
I would not assume that McGeeney wants him just dropping in for a few games.
Quote from: Canavanistheman03 on April 03, 2026, 10:35:55 AMMorgan
Quinn Hampsey Teague
Seanie Devlin mckernan
McDonnell Brian
Daly conn Mcgeary
Darragh Mattie Jordan
Personal opinion.
Ruairi C, Joey Clarke, mccurry, Cassidy, Mcelholm, oguz, Aidy Clarke, mccullagh, aodhan Donaghy, Mcgarrity
honourable mentions
Canavan 3.7
I thought Hampsey retired?
Quote from: p3427977 on April 05, 2026, 05:22:18 PMI did hear a few weeks ago Rian would be back but I've been told nothing since.
Heard that from a very good source but like you nothing in last few weeks
Peter Harte back for Tyrone though ?
Quote from: naka on April 05, 2026, 10:32:18 PMQuote from: p3427977 on April 05, 2026, 05:22:18 PMI did hear a few weeks ago Rian would be back but I've been told nothing since.
Heard that from a very good source but like you nothing in last few weeks
Peter Harte back for Tyrone though ?
Not that you'd take it as gospel but Mattie Forde was talking about Rian on the GAA social that he'd heard he was back in, Oisin said he was just playing with the club at the minute.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 06, 2026, 10:38:59 AMNot that you'd take it as gospel but Mattie Forde was talking about Rian on the GAA social that he'd heard he was back in, Oisin said he was just playing with the club at the minute.
On balance, I would say that Oisin knows more about it.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 07, 2026, 06:22:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 06, 2026, 10:38:59 AMNot that you'd take it as gospel but Mattie Forde was talking about Rian on the GAA social that he'd heard he was back in, Oisin said he was just playing with the club at the minute.
On balance, I would say that Oisin knows more about it.
Probably, but those Cross boys are known for cute hoorism :D
Hear Rian has done his ankle and will be out for a while. He's playing club, end of.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 07, 2026, 06:39:16 PMHear Rian has done his ankle and will be out for a while. He's playing club, end of.
Strange I heard he was the fittest he'd ever been physically but wasn't quite ready to return but would be playing for the club.
So who knows. I doubt it's likely he will be back
The closer the game gets the more nervous I become. Whilst I have little to no concerns over any player individually I have concerns over the 9 defenders 4 forwards split. I think it leaves Armagh very unbalanced and susceptible to clever kick outs which Morgan is very astute at. Hope I'm wrong but can't see anything other than o really tight affair and Armagh haven't won many of those over the last 18 months.
Quote from: David McKeown on April 10, 2026, 05:18:41 PMQuote from: bennydorano on April 07, 2026, 06:39:16 PMHear Rian has done his ankle and will be out for a while. He's playing club, end of.
Strange I heard he was the fittest he'd ever been physically but wasn't quite ready to return but would be playing for the club.
So who knows. I doubt it's likely he will be back
Maybe he was and done the ankle at club training. I see he was coaching an underage camp in Armagh today and isn't on crutches anyway so maybe the ankle injury isn't that serious
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 10, 2026, 05:27:59 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 10, 2026, 05:18:41 PMQuote from: bennydorano on April 07, 2026, 06:39:16 PMHear Rian has done his ankle and will be out for a while. He's playing club, end of.
Strange I heard he was the fittest he'd ever been physically but wasn't quite ready to return but would be playing for the club.
So who knows. I doubt it's likely he will be back
Maybe he was and done the ankle at club training. I see he was coaching an underage camp in Armagh today and isn't on crutches anyway so maybe the ankle injury isn't that serious
I think the point I was making is that I don't think its an ankle injury keeping him out.
Quote from: David McKeown on April 10, 2026, 05:32:24 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 10, 2026, 05:27:59 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 10, 2026, 05:18:41 PMQuote from: bennydorano on April 07, 2026, 06:39:16 PMHear Rian has done his ankle and will be out for a while. He's playing club, end of.
Strange I heard he was the fittest he'd ever been physically but wasn't quite ready to return but would be playing for the club.
So who knows. I doubt it's likely he will be back
Maybe he was and done the ankle at club training. I see he was coaching an underage camp in Armagh today and isn't on crutches anyway so maybe the ankle injury isn't that serious
I think the point I was making is that I don't think its an ankle injury keeping him out.
Lets hope hes back at some atage but focus on what we have for now. Still a fairly strong 26 named for Sunday, only really missing Forker and Mackin who haven't featured much since 2024
Rian playing 2nite for Cross v Harps
Good to see.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 10, 2026, 07:39:38 PMRian playing 2nite for Cross v Harps
He played a bit in the first half, but seemed out of steam in the second. Not a game changer.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 10, 2026, 09:00:22 PMQuote from: bennydorano on April 10, 2026, 07:39:38 PMRian playing 2nite for Cross v Harps
He played a bit in the first half, but seemed out of steam in the second. Not a game changer.
Great to see the lad playing at all.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 10, 2026, 09:01:24 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 10, 2026, 09:00:22 PMQuote from: bennydorano on April 10, 2026, 07:39:38 PMRian playing 2nite for Cross v Harps
He played a bit in the first half, but seemed out of steam in the second. Not a game changer.
Great to see the lad playing at all.
100%.
Do Tyrone have a chance? Fairly strong odds on for Armagh
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2026, 02:38:16 PMDo Tyrone have a chance? Fairly strong odds on for Armagh
I don't think so
Tyrone to win it.
Expect few changes before throw in.
Pressure on Armagh to win it, Tyrone won't be phased by the media etc.
Tyrone always have and always will be a championship team.
Statement for the season ahead be out by 6 o'clock Sunday evening.
Canavan 3.17
Quote from: Canavanistheman03 on April 11, 2026, 04:10:33 PMTyrone to win it.
Expect few changes before throw in.
Pressure on Armagh to win it, Tyrone won't be phased by the media etc.
Tyrone always have and always will be a championship team.
Statement for the season ahead be out by 6 o'clock Sunday evening.
Canavan 3.17
Not happening
Armagh are winning so accept it
Tyrone will win by 5-7 points
Form is temporary - class is not
They have better footballers all over the pitch - that seems to have been forgotten in all the hullabellew of league games
Armagh won't be as quick to write them off again
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2026, 02:38:16 PMDo Tyrone have a chance? Fairly strong odds on for Armagh
On form to date you would have to give a 3-5 point win to Armagh.
The issue is that Armagh team rarely finish teams off, they just edge in front and try to maintain 3 point gap.
So on the day Tyrone may surprise people, have lots of quality and if the pitch is nice and dry/ hard who knows.
Quote from: DaleCooper on April 11, 2026, 06:11:27 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2026, 02:38:16 PMDo Tyrone have a chance? Fairly strong odds on for Armagh
On form to date you would have to give a 3-5 point win to Armagh.
The issue is that Armagh team rarely finish teams off, they just edge in front and try to maintain 3 point gap.
So on the day Tyrone may surprise people, have lots of quality and if the pitch is nice and dry/ hard who knows.
There will be light rain.
Gael force wind due which will make it a lottery in itself
Quote from: sam03/05 on April 11, 2026, 06:21:11 PMGael force wind due which will make it a lottery in itself
Interestingly, the wind is likely to drop off during the game.
Gonna go against the grain on this one, gonna take Tyrone in extra time!
Armagh by 7-8
Hoping Armagh by 3 with our bench being the difference. Could go either way.
I hope it's close to the wire but I couldn't see it, maybe a decent first half
Gonna feel more like January than may or June in the sun... definitely takes away some of the excitement of championship.
Tyrone have shown zero nous when it comes to playing with a strong wind all league, makes Armagh even bigger favourites.
I'll be there and still behind the lads but can't see us getting within 6 points of Armagh
Good Luck to the Team today, it's not going to be easy, wouldn't be writing off Tyrone - hopefully were coming out of the Box-It with 1 or 2 pt win. :)
If tyrone can leave their league form behind them (which they will need to) then they have enough quality to win this. Armaghs bench looks much stronger than ours though and that could be the deciding factor.
Be interesting to see today have Armagh worked on their shooting efficiency and issues defensively that was sticking out like a sore thumb during this years Division one league campaign.
Tyrone will be well up and prepared for this game and will absolutely love the underdog tag and I believe a few lads have started to grow beards for a big run after todays planned ambush
Yup lets hope its a good contest.
Anyone know anywhere near the international airport that would be showing the match? Is there a pub in Glenavy or somewhere?
Rumours on the Armagh forum of injury to Oisin O'Neill, hopefully bullshit, he would be a big loss today and for future games
Quote from: PMG1 on April 12, 2026, 01:58:01 PMAnyone know anywhere near the international airport that would be showing the match? Is there a pub in Glenavy or somewhere?
Your best bet is Lilys in Glenavy or the Fiddlers in Crumlin. Will be on the iPlayer to so alternatively the app on yout phone should work...
Quote from: barelegs on April 12, 2026, 02:41:34 PMQuote from: PMG1 on April 12, 2026, 01:58:01 PMAnyone know anywhere near the international airport that would be showing the match? Is there a pub in Glenavy or somewhere?
Your best bet is Lilys in Glenavy or the Fiddlers in Crumlin. Will be on the iPlayer to so alternatively the app on yout phone should work...
Cheers
Ethan Jordan for Mattie Donnelly
Ciaran Daly for Frank Burns - gone from the 26
Ciaran Bogue into the panel
Callum O'Neill in for Paddy Burns
We've very little impact off the bench now. McElholm, Donnelly and McGeary would be the first 3 on I'd say
Not much size in thw fullforward line for Tyrone now
Only five mins but very pedestrian
Yep as expected can't hit a barn door and too open defensively. Armagh better all over. Going to be a long day
Ref leaning towards Armagh.
You literally cannot touch wee Jarly. A free for every contact.
Nowhere near Armagh and they're playing in 2nd gear at most
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on April 12, 2026, 04:34:16 PMRef leaning towards Armagh.
You literally cannot touch wee Jarly. A free for every contact.
He was shouldered in the back??
Quote from: screenexile on April 12, 2026, 04:36:01 PMQuote from: Brick Tamlin on April 12, 2026, 04:34:16 PMRef leaning towards Armagh.
You literally cannot touch wee Jarly. A free for every contact.
He was shouldered in the back??
Yeah not sure what he's watching there. Clear foul. We just aren't good enough
Kennedy can hardly jog there
The difference in conditioning is shocking.
Canavan away off now lol. Anyone that thought we'd get close please tell me what football you've watched this year. You can say league means nothing but it absolutely does
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:39:32 PMThe difference in conditioning is shocking.
Shooting I would say
Malachy O'Rourke out of his depth
How O'Rourke thinks that Ben McDonnell is worth a place is beyond ridiculous. Has been awful.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 04:40:53 PMCanavan away off now lol. Anyone that thought we'd get close please tell me what football you've watched this year. You can say league means nothing but it absolutely does
Not sure about the hype with Canavan. Wither its our game plan that doesn't suit him or what but he hasn't done much this past few years. Seems to play in brief spells but never sustained
Quote from: trileacman on April 12, 2026, 04:47:12 PMHow O'Rourke thinks that Ben McDonnell is worth a place is beyond ridiculous. Has been awful.
Not the only one. Daly, McCurry, Jordan, Cassidy all been anonymous or poor
Are tyrone allowed to tackle armagh?
Harsh enough on McKernan, guy was going backwards off balance. Morgan prob should take over to avoid traumatising Jordan
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 04:50:32 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 04:40:53 PMCanavan away off now lol. Anyone that thought we'd get close please tell me what football you've watched this year. You can say league means nothing but it absolutely does
Not sure about the hype with Canavan. Wither its our game plan that doesn't suit him or what but he hasn't done much this past few years. Seems to play in brief spells but never sustained
Our game plan is to mainly slow the game down. That doesn't suit many forwards
Thought Tyrone could keep it level or so until the 2nd half but there you are
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 04:51:27 PMAre tyrone allowed to tackle armagh?
1 team is allowed to be very physical in the tackle and 1 is not
Well the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:59:03 PMWell the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
There's not a whole pile between the two teams , Armagh creating more space inside and are being more physical in the tackling.
Poor contest, as bad as Tyrone are Armagh are poor also..
Pedestrian stuff really. Tyrone are so slow when they get possession, even on turnovers. So easy for Armagh to defend
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:59:03 PMWell the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
It was never going to happen. Whoever thought it was was dreaming. Armagh are far fitter, better coached and have a set gameplan.
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:59:03 PMWell the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
Anyone that thought this would be close obviously hasn't watched a game of football in 20 odd years. Armagh playing in 2nd gear and winning comfortably
It's like there's a gulf in S&C
Armagh's bench to see them home comfortably enough there. Although I don't buy they're in the same bracket as Kerry and Donegal, that Tyrone team are shocking and they're in striking distance with about 7 wides
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2026, 05:01:33 PMPoor contest, as bad as Tyrone are Armagh are poor also..
Poor quality stuff so far alright. HT Armagh 0-8 Tyrone 0-4
G lads u sore on u own team, 4pts aint good but hammering them on here not solve it!
Poor fare on show in that first half.
Like a Div. 4 national league game.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 05:03:18 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:59:03 PMWell the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
Anyone that thought this would be close obviously hasn't watched a game of football in 20 odd years. Armagh playing in 2nd gear and winning comfortably
Top draw GAAism...playing at home in the championship to big rivals and playing in 2nd gear 🫡
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2026, 05:07:36 PMG lads u sore on u own team, 4pts aint good but hammering them on here not solve it!
More so slating the people that thought we had a chance lol. If you've actually watched us play this year you'd know Armagh would win at ease. If Armagh wanted they could throw on the 4 or 5 players on the bench that could well be starting and beat us by 10 plus. Honestly laughable how people thought this would be a close game (yes I'm open to criticism if we somehow turn this around)
Quote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 05:11:31 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 05:03:18 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:59:03 PMWell the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
Anyone that thought this would be close obviously hasn't watched a game of football in 20 odd years. Armagh playing in 2nd gear and winning comfortably
Top draw GAAism...playing at home in the championship to big rivals and playing in 2nd gear 🫡
They definitely are. Could step it up and attack at speed and throw on 4 or 5 capable starters from the bench
Attendance is decent 16,091
Armagh dont look too worried about this Tyrone spell, making for a more interesting contest now anyway
Armagh better get out of 2nd gear if they are going to win this.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 05:12:48 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 05:11:31 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 05:03:18 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:59:03 PMWell the mythical Tyrone championship performance has not materialised. 4 points in 35 minutes of football is shocking stuff. Some difference in S and C on display.
Anyone that thought this would be close obviously hasn't watched a game of football in 20 odd years. Armagh playing in 2nd gear and winning comfortably
Top draw GAAism...playing at home in the championship to big rivals and playing in 2nd gear 🫡
They definitely are. Could step it up and attack at speed and throw on 4 or 5 capable starters from the bench
All teams could step it up, do some teams have it stepped up at all times ? And the 4 or 5 capable starters , if they'd started, the 4 or 5 then who didn't start would be capable starters (as they've started)
50 mins played Armagh 0-9 Tyrone 0-8
Games gone to f**k. Let the game play out ffs no need to blow the whistle there
Level 0-9 each makes for intriguing finish.
🤣🤣🤣 yellow card for that?
McKernan is supposed to have ABS breaking I suppose
Armagh in neutral atm
Few Tyrone fans on here gutted at this scoreline so far.
Armagh 1pt in 22mins, not good!
What's this free for now?
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 05:43:53 PMWhat's this free for now?
You should be happy enough that it's gone against Tyrone.
Noel would need to f**k up himself tbh
Quote from: square_ball on April 12, 2026, 05:45:01 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 05:43:53 PMWhat's this free for now?
You should be happy enough that it's gone against Tyrone.
Why? Because I didn't think it would be close? Doesn't mean I didn't want us to win
58 mins and I've realised there is a crowd at the game
Great two pointer free from O Neill has Armagh back in front.
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 12, 2026, 05:47:04 PMGreat two pointer free from O Neill has Armagh back in front.
Did he take it from where the foul was?
Donegal three in a row
Kilpatrick putting in his best performance in 5 years.
He man of the match
Armagh went way bck from last year, need play their strongest team.
Kilpatrick and Donnelly good.
Tyrone solid enough at the back but forward play non existent for most of the game.
I wouldnt even have a free for that! Tyrone missed their last 4 shots
Defenders have done really well on Conaty etc today in fairness but not good enough up front
Goal for Tyrone level game
Armagh should fouled way out the field.
Ben McDonell!!! Last man I would've thought to get a goal
Armagh a man down for extra time?
Extra time to find winner.
Well i got it right to Extra time at the minute! McCullagh slipped at the wrong time there!
If Tyrone are 33/1 for Sam what are this lot? That oul 3 horse race for the All Ireland, Jesus wept
Bit of respect on jersey again.but could easily have been a win.
Morgan came v close on that free. Tyrone almost pipped one but McGarrity made a meal of it
Armagh lucky not to lose it in the end. Thought Tyrone were unlucky to get free given against them after dispossessing Armagh
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14 v 15 it's a prime opportunity for Tyrone to complete their ambush in extra time.
Quote from: Tribesmen on April 12, 2026, 06:04:11 PMArmagh lucky not to lose it in the end. Thought Tyrone were unlucky to get free given against them after dispossessing Armagh
And the free for the 2 pointer
15 v 14 or 15 v 15?
Quote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 06:05:49 PMQuote from: Tribesmen on April 12, 2026, 06:04:11 PMArmagh lucky not to lose it in the end. Thought Tyrone were unlucky to get free given against them after dispossessing Armagh
And the free for the 2 pointer
Still not sure what that was for. Conn literally gave the armagh player the ball and they played on
Red card carries 14 v 15 all notes and yellows carry also
I thought ref was harsh on Tyrone on a few calls in a tight game.
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 06:06:33 PM15 v 14 or 15 v 15?
Yeah tyrone extra man for ET I think
What ever happens in extra time its great to see a bit of fight in Tyrone. I wrote them off before match but fair play to them for not giving up.
O'Neill stole about 20m for that 'non free' on the sideline.
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 06:06:33 PM15 v 14 or 15 v 15?
Rule changed before '25 season...sensible
Quote from: marty34 on April 12, 2026, 06:09:53 PMO'Neill stole about 20m for that 'non free' on the sideline.
Linesman looking straight at it too.
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:09:06 PMWhat ever happens in extra time its great to see a bit of fight in Tyrone. I wrote them off before match but fair play to them for not giving up.
Belief is a huge thing
I thought armagh would walk it, but its been a really poor match from both sides.
3 mins if excitement at the end.
hope it goes to penalties for the craic.
Hasn't been a classic. Could go either way in extra time.
Course it was sensible.. it's unfair on a team that has to play against a full deck for no real reason..
It's not new rules as Sidebottom has mentioned, it's been out season before
Watching again on TV it wasnt a black card!
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 06:01:13 PMBen McDonell!!! Last man I would've thought to get a goal
Sure but have long thought him better than many who get on ahead of him. V hard worker and good reader of game
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 06:14:11 PMI thought armagh would walk it, but its been a really poor match from both sides.
3 mins if excitement at the end.
hope it goes to penalties for the craic.
Definitely...kick the chores list down the road for a while longer
Well worked goal for Armagh. 1-14 to 1-10
Game over
Thats bad defending from Tyrone.
Quote from: DaleCooper on April 12, 2026, 06:16:44 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 06:01:13 PMBen McDonell!!! Last man I would've thought to get a goal
Sure but have long thought him better than many who get on ahead of him. V hard worker and good reader of game
He's definitely better than most give him credit for I think. Type of player you want playing for you in my opinion
Unreal fight back. Ridiculous effort from Conn
A few two pointers level game again.
Win or lose give Kilpatrick the MOTM
McKernan got a yellow for worse than that
Some Tyrone younger players making way too many mistakes.
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:39:32 PMThe difference in conditioning is shocking.
Classic gaa when getting beat it's always conditioning. Proving you wrong here
The level of play acting by players on both sides is ridiculous.
In an extremely tight game, being gifted 4 points from soft frees is huge
Anyone got the free count here?
Is the foam sprayed so the man knows he can kick a two yard beyond it
Half time in extra time Armagh 1-16 Tyrone 1-15
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 06:14:11 PMI thought armagh would walk it, but its been a really poor match from both sides.
3 mins if excitement at the end.
hope it goes to penalties for the craic.
There's f**k all between between the top teams in Ulster.
Quote from: Mario on April 12, 2026, 06:25:55 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 04:39:32 PMThe difference in conditioning is shocking.
Classic gaa when getting beat it's always conditioning. Proving you wrong here
You'd think county squads don't use GPS, sports science , markers etc and knows the levels to be at come championship time :o
No harm but aramagh have benefited massively from this ref.
What do neutrals make of ref? Its mostly frustrating letter of law stuff rather than bias to me.
Dont know, i dont think it was ever a black card for McMullan.
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:30:37 PMNo harm but aramagh have benefited massively from this ref.
He's been poor both ways. He's handed Armagh at least 5 frees they didn't deserve but on the other side it's never a red card for McMullen.
These lads on BBC don't even know the rules.
1. About the 'new' rule....about 14 staying at 14 in extra-time.
2. Not knowing if Mc Kernan's 2 pointer was a 2 pointer.
FFS.
Quote from: DaleCooper on April 12, 2026, 06:32:21 PMWhat do neutrals make of ref? Its mostly frustrating letter of law stuff rather than bias to me.
I'm no Tyrone fan (😁) but Mooney has allowed Armagh to be very physical in the tackle and Tyrone not (often little to no physicality )
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2026, 06:32:25 PMDont know, i dont think it was ever a black card for McMullan.
It was a yellow for a high tackle.
2nd yellow.
Awful lot men slipping!
Quote from: DaleCooper on April 12, 2026, 06:32:21 PMWhat do neutrals make of ref? Its mostly frustrating letter of law stuff rather than bias to me.
Agree.
Tyrone verbals have cost them a couple of points, can't blame ref for that.
softish 2nd yellow benefitting tyrone.
Not biased in my view.
Armagh with a few bad decisions. Tyrone not using the spare man on kickouts
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2026, 06:39:45 PMArmagh with a few bad decisions. Tyrone not using the spare man on kickouts
Eventually worked a safe score for Turbitt but there are a lot of lads who don't want to take on shots.
Take the fisted point. Take the fisted point. Take the fisted point...
Vital Tyrone kick outs won by 14-man Armagh in second period. And that's the difference.
Armagh 1-17 Tyrone 1-16. 45 from Morgan goes wide. Seconds left.
FT AET Armagh 1-17 Tyrone 1-16.
Very soft final free but Armagh the right winners.
People can slate going for a point over a goal all they want but McElholm should have fisted it over. There's no way in this scenario you should ever go for a goal there. Infuriating decision from him
So Armagh weren't really a man down in ET after all.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 06:42:35 PMTake the fisted point. Take the fisted point. Take the fisted point...
yep, was a poor choice.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 06:46:46 PMPeople can slate going for a point over a goal all they want but McElholm should have fisted it over. There's no way in this scenario you should ever go for a goal there. Infuriating decision from him
Yeah, that was an easy point he should have taken.
Quote from: gallsman on April 12, 2026, 06:46:26 PMVery soft final free but Armagh the right winners.
Again another phrase today that makes zero sense.
Grown men asking for autographs ;D
Ambush avoided, Tyrone blew the opportunity with the man advantage in extra time. Armagh winning and Tyrone losing is always a good day.
Contrast it with Turbitt's winning point.
That 20 minutes extra time was miles better than the first 70 minutes. Tyrone unlucky there at the end. But again, the hooter has to go. The end of games are becoming farcical now. You just knew when Morgan missed that free that Tyrone wouldn't have enough time to get a shot off even if they won the kickout. It ruins the excitement
Poor game in normal time.
Extra time was better, but wasn't great quality on display from either side apart from a few individuals.
Kilpatrick and donnelly for tyrone.
Oneill for armagh.
Quote from: trileacman on April 12, 2026, 06:32:31 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:30:37 PMNo harm but aramagh have benefited massively from this ref.
He's been poor both ways. He's handed Armagh at least 5 frees they didn't deserve but on the other side it's never a red card for McMullen.
Letter of the law it was a yellow for high challenge. Over the game ref 100% benefited Armagh.
Morgan always 50/50 with the crucial 45's. Has been that way for a decade. "Drifted wide" is the phrase to describe them.
Quote from: Tribesmen on April 12, 2026, 06:49:20 PMThat 20 minutes extra time was miles better than the first 70 minutes. Tyrone unlucky there at the end. But again, the hooter has to go. The end of games are becoming farcical now. You just knew when Morgan missed that free that Tyrone wouldn't have enough time to get a shot off even if they won the kickout. It ruins the excitement
+1...keeper rightly takes 25+ secs leaving no time to respond
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:50:15 PMQuote from: trileacman on April 12, 2026, 06:32:31 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:30:37 PMNo harm but aramagh have benefited massively from this ref.
He's been poor both ways. He's handed Armagh at least 5 frees they didn't deserve but on the other side it's never a red card for McMullen.
Letter of the law it was a yellow for high challenge. Over the game ref 100% benefited Armagh.
Neck tackle is yellow, easiest call all day
Quote from: DaleCooper on April 12, 2026, 06:32:21 PMWhat do neutrals make of ref? Its mostly frustrating letter of law stuff rather than bias to me.
Gave Armagh Jarly Burns in particular some handy frees
Nothing between the two teams. I think that will leave Tyrone with a bit of a silver lining. Wasn't great football, but great to see a bit of passion again in the Tyrone Jersey. Plenty of talk about the Armagh bench. But Tyrone had to draw deep into theirs as well with mixed results. Losing Kennedy & Canavan two big blows.
Happier after getting bate than before the game which is weird!
Can't believe McElholm didn't go for the percentage play there. Saw the headlines. Poor decision. Very surprised Morgan didn't nail the '45 too, but Tyrone had a poor enough day in front of the posts in general and perplexingly failed to capitalise on their extra man, which seemed a gift for their more methodical attacking play.
Armagh have a tendency to make heavy weather of things, no matter the opponent - they made better use of the ball when they had it though, and were deserved winners overall.
And that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh won't be winning any all Ireland this year. Will be lucky to win ulster. Will depend on Donegal ambitions.
Tyrone did well defensively more than anything. Donnelly showed his is far from finished - great game from him. McCurry looked quite predictable and unable to make space so he is maybe more of a sub now. Kilpatrick really stood up too.
Armagh probably a bit better but will be disappointed by performance. Still saved Grugan, murnin etc so have a bit more in the tank.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 12, 2026, 06:53:22 PMNothing between the two teams. I think that will leave Tyrone with a bit of a silver lining. Wasn't great football, but great to see a bit of passion again in the Tyrone Jersey. Plenty of talk about the Armagh bench. But Tyrone had to draw deep into theirs as well with mixed results. Losing Kennedy & Canavan two big blows.
Happier after getting bate than before the game which is weird!
McGeary was a loss too
Kilpatrick showed up but he always has one or two massive brain farts in him. Need to see it back but think it was him who went for one off the outside of his right boot from out on the left.
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:50:15 PMQuote from: trileacman on April 12, 2026, 06:32:31 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 06:30:37 PMNo harm but aramagh have benefited massively from this ref.
He's been poor both ways. He's handed Armagh at least 5 frees they didn't deserve but on the other side it's never a red card for McMullen.
Letter of the law it was a yellow for high challenge. Over the game ref 100% benefited Armagh.
Sure he did 🙄
He went off his left on the left side did he not, I remember Eoin taking one off the outside in kind of the center, slightly left
Yeah McCurry has no threat. Slowed a lot.
Heartening display and could easily have pipped it. Good to see less experienced lads get some cship time they are the future.
Quote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Ah now catch yourself on. It took a replay to show it hit the outside little finger of a tyrone player. How is the ref never mind the linesman supposed to see that. All the Armagh frees they got today and this is what's highlighted
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Aye no bother Kieran
Oisin O'Neill disrespectful to Tyrone in post match interview!
Quote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:15:26 PMOisin O'Neill disrespectful to Tyrone in post match interview!
What did he say?
Said that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
Quote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
Wise up ffs. He gave the usual cliche post match interview. If you're reading anything more into it then you're an idiot.
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 07:13:33 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Ah now catch yourself on. It took a replay to show it hit the outside little finger of a tyrone player. How is the ref never mind the linesman supposed to see that. All the Armagh frees they got today and this is what's highlighted
It was fairly clear from the TV the ball deviated when it was kicked.
Quote from: square_ball on April 12, 2026, 07:23:26 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 07:13:33 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Ah now catch yourself on. It took a replay to show it hit the outside little finger of a tyrone player. How is the ref never mind the linesman supposed to see that. All the Armagh frees they got today and this is what's highlighted
It was fairly clear from the TV the ball deviated when it was kicked.
Referee was beside it too.
Ref was grand lads. Missed things for both teams. Whoever said Tyrone weren't allowed to be physical in the tackle wasn't at the game.
We were good for first 15 mins and that showed on the scoreboard. But fair play to Tyrone.
We came out the right side of a tight game having played extra time a man down which is pleasing.
Donegal won't be too worried though
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 07:13:33 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Ah now catch yourself on. It took a replay to show it hit the outside little finger of a tyrone player. How is the ref never mind the linesman supposed to see that. All the Armagh frees they got today and this is what's highlighted
It was obvious that it was a 45. Could see it clearly from where we were ffs
Quote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
So he didn't say anything that wasn't true
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:28:06 PMQuote from: square_ball on April 12, 2026, 07:23:26 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 07:13:33 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Ah now catch yourself on. It took a replay to show it hit the outside little finger of a tyrone player. How is the ref never mind the linesman supposed to see that. All the Armagh frees they got today and this is what's highlighted
It was fairly clear from the TV the ball deviated when it was kicked.
Referee was beside it too.
Completely obvious to all in the stand behind the goal that it was a 45. Umpire shouldn't have missed it.
Tense and exciting game but poor on quality. Can't see Armagh troubling Donegal if they beat Fermanagh.
Tyrone could have stole that with all of their missed opportunities, but they had to score a last minute goal to take it to extra time and couldn't win despite having the extra man in ET. That tells you they got what they deserved out of that game. I see someone criticising Conn Kilpatrick above. He was the main reason Tyrone stayed in contention throughout.
Didn't even realise we were a man down, not sure anyone round us did either.
Ref/Umpire missed that 45, clear as day from behind nets. I thought the Ref was the pernickity type and poor for everyone, not my type of Ref, I'd prefer a Faloon any day.
Conn Kilpatrick best player on field by a long way imo.
Poor game, but pretty intense, there was no space anywhere
Quote from: jb77 on April 12, 2026, 07:01:24 PMHe went off his left on the left side did he not, I remember Eoin taking one off the outside in kind of the center, slightly left
Maybe he did, I was watching on a phone and thought he went off the right.
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 12, 2026, 07:38:42 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
So he didn't say anything that wasn't true
Must be on the stuff the other lad on if he think they can't beat Fermanagh playing like that!
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 04:40:53 PMCanavan away off now lol. Anyone that thought we'd get close please tell me what football you've watched this year. You can say league means nothing but it absolutely does
That was a bit premature
O'Neil was right, play that way against any top team and they are toast.
I thought armagh rode their luck with some of the frees to be fair, but that usually evens itself out as the year goes by.
Tyrone were hungry for it, although a defeat, tyronies should feel heartened to know this team has a bite in it.
Mattie donnelly was threatening and added a spark, a long term worry for tyrone given his age. A bit of inexperience in shot selection probably cost them also.
For armagh, they seem to be afraid to kill a team off. Tyrone were getting picked apart in the first half, Armagh didn't seize that and had to rely on O'Neil to come on to settle things in the second.
Quote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
Malachy O'Rourke might be looking for fodder to rile up the troops later in the year and post on the changing room wall. He'll be clutching at straws if he's relying on that Grace.
Tyrone fans getting angry and blaming the referee for everything
...are they back?!
Quote from: APM on April 12, 2026, 07:45:50 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:28:06 PMQuote from: square_ball on April 12, 2026, 07:23:26 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on April 12, 2026, 07:13:33 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 12, 2026, 07:10:26 PMQuote from: RedhandEastie on April 12, 2026, 06:54:47 PMAnd that folks is why geezer comes out slating refs every week. They will bow down to him and put in performances like today. Truly shocking. Well done Armagh but my god you fairly needed the ref to bail you out.
Armagh were denied a 45 when the game was on a knife edge at the death.
Posts like this make Tyrone look very silly or bitter.
Ah now catch yourself on. It took a replay to show it hit the outside little finger of a tyrone player. How is the ref never mind the linesman supposed to see that. All the Armagh frees they got today and this is what's highlighted
It was fairly clear from the TV the ball deviated when it was kicked.
Referee was beside it too.
Tyrone could have stole that with all of their missed opportunities, but they had to score a last minute goal to take it to extra time
Lol
I mean....I don't know....
Quote from: onefaircounty on April 12, 2026, 07:52:58 PMTyrone fans getting angry and blaming the referee for everything
...are they back?!
Geezer complaining about refs week in week out to intimidate them into soft decisions in the athletic grounds!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2026, 06:48:15 PMGrown men asking for autographs ;D
They probably live next door to them as well ;D
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 12, 2026, 06:53:35 PMCan't believe McElholm didn't go for the percentage play there. Saw the headlines. Poor decision. Very surprised Morgan didn't nail the '45 too, but Tyrone had a poor enough day in front of the posts in general and perplexingly failed to capitalise on their extra man, which seemed a gift for their more methodical attacking play.
Armagh have a tendency to make heavy weather of things, no matter the opponent - they made better use of the ball when they had it though, and were deserved winners overall.
They really do. That's why talk of a 10 points win for Armagh was silly.
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2026, 07:50:47 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 04:40:53 PMCanavan away off now lol. Anyone that thought we'd get close please tell me what football you've watched this year. You can say league means nothing but it absolutely does
That was a bit premature
I did say I was wrong about it lol
Fermanagh will not be afraid going by that today and a raucous Brewster will be a leveller.
Poor game, reminiscent of Down 2024, took us into a dogfight and nearly beat us, good games from McQuillan and McGrane, think one of Oisin or Turbo need to start. Ref was atrocious.
A few shocking mullets on display.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 12, 2026, 08:26:37 PMA few shocking mullets on display.
Jesus Armagh hair jobs are wild looking. I thought geezer had control!
Conn got MOTM I take it or did geezer cry one of the Armagh players to it?
Quote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:58:19 PMQuote from: onefaircounty on April 12, 2026, 07:52:58 PMTyrone fans getting angry and blaming the referee for everything
...are they back?!
Geezer complaining about refs week in week out to intimidate them into soft decisions in the athletic grounds!
Dry your eyes ffs
A strange game. Tyrone playing above thier league form, Armagh way below.
Neither side's forwards will remember this game with any fondness bar Mattie Id say.
Ref wasn't great. Gave Armagh a lot of soft score able frees and seemed to miss the several yards O'Neill stole to hit his 2 pointer. Would also like to see replay of Armagh goal as from behind goals it looked a square ball.
Big problem for Tyrone is continued lack of being able to win own ko (bar the short sideline one that both Armagh amd Tyrone seemed happy to concede.
In 2nd half of ET Armagh won 4 Tyorne ko in a row. Thats not good enough. Even the final ball.... needed to be won...wasn't.
Also... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
Was telling Tyrone didn't put any fast ball into the 3 forwards from turnovers...
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 12, 2026, 08:35:51 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:58:19 PMQuote from: onefaircounty on April 12, 2026, 07:52:58 PMTyrone fans getting angry and blaming the referee for everything
...are they back?!
Geezer complaining about refs week in week out to intimidate them into soft decisions in the athletic grounds!
Dry your eyes ffs
Didn't work too well! Mooney was awful!
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 08:19:39 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2026, 07:50:47 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on April 12, 2026, 04:40:53 PMCanavan away off now lol. Anyone that thought we'd get close please tell me what football you've watched this year. You can say league means nothing but it absolutely does
That was a bit premature
I did say I was wrong about it lol
I missed that .. say three Hail Marys anyway ;D
Quote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMA strange game. Tyrone playing above thier league form, Armagh way below.
Neither side's forwards will remember this game with any fondness bar Mattie Id say.
Ref wasn't great. Gave Armagh a lot of soft score able frees and seemed to miss the several yards O'Neill stole to hit his 2 pointer. Would also like to see replay of Armagh goal as from behind goals it looked a square ball.
Big problem for Tyrone is continued lack of being able to win own ko (bar the short sideline one that both Armagh amd Tyrone seemed happy to concede.
In 2nd half of ET Armagh won 4 Tyorne ko in a row. Thats not good enough. Even the final ball.... needed to be won...wasn't.
Also... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
Was telling Tyrone didn't put any fast ball into the 3 forwards from turnovers...
It's not.
But Kerry aRe All Ireland champions, so therefore the new rules have saved the game. Apparently ::)
Quote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMA strange game. Tyrone playing above thier league form, Armagh way below.
Neither side's forwards will remember this game with any fondness bar Mattie Id say.
Ref wasn't great. Gave Armagh a lot of soft score able frees and seemed to miss the several yards O'Neill stole to hit his 2 pointer. Would also like to see replay of Armagh goal as from behind goals it looked a square ball.
Big problem for Tyrone is continued lack of being able to win own ko (bar the short sideline one that both Armagh amd Tyrone seemed happy to concede.
In 2nd half of ET Armagh won 4 Tyorne ko in a row. Thats not good enough. Even the final ball.... needed to be won...wasn't.
Also... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
Was telling Tyrone didn't put any fast ball into the 3 forwards from turnovers...
Can happen to any team on any given day, that's the lottery of the longer kickouts. Teams will win and lose with the ball ricocheting all over the show, some kindly, some not so,it's like trying to catch a rugby ball once it bounces 🤞
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2026, 08:54:28 PMQuote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMA strange game. Tyrone playing above thier league form, Armagh way below.
Neither side's forwards will remember this game with any fondness bar Mattie Id say.
Ref wasn't great. Gave Armagh a lot of soft score able frees and seemed to miss the several yards O'Neill stole to hit his 2 pointer. Would also like to see replay of Armagh goal as from behind goals it looked a square ball.
Big problem for Tyrone is continued lack of being able to win own ko (bar the short sideline one that both Armagh amd Tyrone seemed happy to concede.
In 2nd half of ET Armagh won 4 Tyorne ko in a row. Thats not good enough. Even the final ball.... needed to be won...wasn't.
Also... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
Was telling Tyrone didn't put any fast ball into the 3 forwards from turnovers...
It's not.
But Kerry aRe All Ireland champions, so therefore the new rules have saved the game. Apparently ::)
I would stay clear of watching Donegal....they found the exciting football antidote, didn't take them long
At least Armagh got over their likeness for slow starts. Stumbling over the line will do us no harm.
Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
When O'Neill kicked the 2pter, he was 5m by where the free was. Very slack the ref, didnt mark the line.for the free.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2026, 09:44:13 PMWhen O'Neill kicked the 2pter, he was 5m by where the free was. Very slack the ref, didnt mark the line.for the free.
Was very quick to mark Donnelly's kick near the end of the game on the sideline. Was very inconsistent and both teams will have complaints.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2026, 09:44:13 PMWhen O'Neill kicked the 2pter, he was 5m by where the free was. Very slack the ref, didnt mark the line.for the free.
Linesman should have spotted that
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
A poor enough quality game which Armagh deservedly just about won. In fact I think the manner of the win will stand them in good stead. The first 1pt game Armagh have won this year and possibly the first since the 2024 all Ireland
Apart from that very few positives. Worrying that Murnin and McCambrdidge didnt see any action when extra time seemed set up for them. Must not be as close to a return as was thought
Refereeing very poor all round. I understand the second half lasted 44 minutes of real time which shows how whistle happy he was. Red card was a joke and some of things he missed were unforgivable.
Tyrone very good defensively but kicked themselves out of with a number of poor misses. Long lay off now with Tyrone guaranteed to meet a provincial finalist in their next game
Quote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
Quote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
Waffle.
Ok explain to me why it was a card?
Quote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)
Quote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:30:05 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)
I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias. Which of the following was it?
5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.
Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules
Quote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:38:10 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:30:05 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)
I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias. Which of the following was it?
5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.
Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules
David it was none of those, he was yellow carded for a high tackle. It could be argued he tackled the ball and his arm/hand slipped upwards but it was a silly challenge to make when on a yellow.
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 12, 2026, 11:40:02 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:38:10 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:30:05 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)
I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias. Which of the following was it?
5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.
Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules
David it was none of those, he was yellow carded for a high tackle. It could be argued he tackled the ball and his arm/hand slipped upwards but it was a silly challenge to make when on a yellow.
No he wasnt he recieved a black card or at least thats what it looked from where I was and what RTE said it was
High tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Quote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:40:52 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on April 12, 2026, 11:40:02 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:38:10 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:30:05 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)
I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias. Which of the following was it?
5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.
Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules
David it was none of those, he was yellow carded for a high tackle. It could be argued he tackled the ball and his arm/hand slipped upwards but it was a silly challenge to make when on a yellow.
No he wasnt he recieved a black card or at least thats what it looked from where I was and what RTE said it was
I watched on bbc and thought they said yellow card?
It should have been a yellow, so if he issued a black in error, the right call would have had the same result in a red.
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Quote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:38:10 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:30:05 PMQuote from: David McKeown on April 12, 2026, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: JoG2 on April 12, 2026, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2026, 09:40:08 PMJaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!
Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call
Yes easily the wrong call. Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents
2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)
I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias. Which of the following was it?
5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.
Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules
These are black card fouls David...2nd yellow was for a neck high tackle. It's not really up for debate
Armagh kicked 0-8 from frees, Tyrone got a point from Jordan. He never cost Tyrone the game, I would entertain a debate on McMullen second yellow as well, wouldn't of complained if it was just a free in and move on.
From a scoreable free persepctive thought we were totally nailed. Some of them stone wall (Ben McDonnell's rash one), some of them incredibly soft. These were tap overs too which is more frustrating. O'Neills stolen yards shouldn't be let go either, he might of nailed it anyway but not really acceptable when players were pointing it out before hand.
Tyrone did get some frees on goal but they tended to be long distance, Jordan and Morgan's radar well off today. Morgan questionable on the pressure ones over the years but I suppose he's only taking the hard ones.
A 6 or 7 week turnaround is going to be a serious stint for Tyrone now, could be a short summer but good to see a bit of bite back. Armagh have a nack of hanging in there with Donegal but they definitely need to lift it from that today. Beware of Derry in the long grass, I always think they have a massive game in them for some reason even when form doesn't always suggest it.
On the day both teams can have grievances about the officiating but ultimately the result. I think, overall, the referee did not particularly benefit anyone.
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How can anyone argue with that ffs
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How can anyone argue with that ffs
I hope it is applied consistently, as there will be a lot of black cards like that this season.
Quote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMAlso... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
I've been thinking the same thing myself recently. It's beginning to appear that after the bedding in period and the giddy high we all felt from the initial novelty of high scores, looser defences, unpredictability and space, there has been a slight reversion to the norm and we're back to long passages of endless recycling of the ball, and set/repetitive patterns, unless there's an unforced error or turnover. It's not helped by many players evidently being coached to not shoot unless it's a very high percentage chance close to goals, today's game having quite a few examples of attackers turning down opportunities and shoveling the ball back outside the arc when it became clear they had no path to walk the ball over the bar.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 13, 2026, 01:36:37 AMQuote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMAlso... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
I've been thinking the same thing myself recently. It's beginning to appear that after the bedding in period and the giddy high we all felt from the initial novelty of high scores, looser defences, unpredictability and space, there has been a slight reversion to the norm and we're back to long passages of endless recycling of the ball, and set/repetitive patterns, unless there's an unforced error or turnover. It's not helped by many players evidently being coached to not shoot unless it's a very high percentage chance close to goals, today's game having quite a few examples of attackers turning down opportunities and shoveling the ball back outside the arc when it became clear they had no path to walk the ball over the bar.
It's infuriating and will get worse. Teams are fearful of losing the ball at the 65 minute marker they go through endless recycling. When it comes to high stakes games it's going to go on longer. We didn't see it much last year because Kerry wrecked everyone.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 13, 2026, 01:36:37 AMQuote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMAlso... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
I've been thinking the same thing myself recently. It's beginning to appear that after the bedding in period and the giddy high we all felt from the initial novelty of high scores, looser defences, unpredictability and space, there has been a slight reversion to the norm and we're back to long passages of endless recycling of the ball, and set/repetitive patterns, unless there's an unforced error or turnover. It's not helped by many players evidently being coached to not shoot unless it's a very high percentage chance close to goals, today's game having quite a few examples of attackers turning down opportunities and shoveling the ball back outside the arc when it became clear they had no path to walk the ball over the bar.
from an Armagh perspective that was infuriating. I am sure Tyrone ones will feel the same
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 13, 2026, 01:36:37 AMtoday's game having quite a few examples of attackers turning down opportunities and shoveling the ball back outside the arc when it became clear they had no path to walk the ball over the bar.
This long predates the new rules coming in.
There was a fear of losing from Armagh and a nothing to lose attitude (in the second half) from Tyrone, resulting in a poor game
Armagh will have the favourite tag again next day but won't have the same dread against Fermanagh
They have a few big players to come back too in Grugan and Murnin and probably have more. In saying that the game yesterday probably was better for Tyrone than for them. Tyrone have plenty in them but just didn't seem to think so for a good while - maybe now they will.
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 13, 2026, 07:06:32 AMQuote from: cavanmaniac on April 13, 2026, 01:36:37 AMQuote from: tyroneman on April 12, 2026, 08:44:05 PMAlso... going by the 70min game, these new rules are very much emperor's new clothes...
Win KO, then spend 1-2 min playing ball around an arc against a mass defence. Someone tell me how this is anything new or indeed exciting.
I've been thinking the same thing myself recently. It's beginning to appear that after the bedding in period and the giddy high we all felt from the initial novelty of high scores, looser defences, unpredictability and space, there has been a slight reversion to the norm and we're back to long passages of endless recycling of the ball, and set/repetitive patterns, unless there's an unforced error or turnover. It's not helped by many players evidently being coached to not shoot unless it's a very high percentage chance close to goals, today's game having quite a few examples of attackers turning down opportunities and shoveling the ball back outside the arc when it became clear they had no path to walk the ball over the bar.
from an Armagh perspective that was infuriating. I am sure Tyrone ones will feel the same
Yep. So annoying to watch. There was a particularly bad Armagh one when the game was in the balance at the end of normal time. A shot you'd expect an under 16 to tap over. It's just ingrained into county players now.
Think match will have positives / negatives for both teams .
Worrying though for Armagh that murnin, mc Cambridge didn't get minute because we need them grugan also really didn't get much either they all
Need time against Fermanagh
For me both sides have complaints on the ref which is always a plus meaning he didn't really influence the result .
Ballsy by young mcelhom to go for the goal but experience will tell him the point was a given
Quote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 12:48:48 AMI hope it is applied consistently, as there will be a lot of black cards like that this season.
Lads it was a 2nd yellow card I am not too sure where this black card chat has come from.
But equally I don't think it merited a yellow card. Every contact shouldn't mean a yellow card.
Quote from: square_ball on April 13, 2026, 08:27:33 AMQuote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 12:48:48 AMI hope it is applied consistently, as there will be a lot of black cards like that this season.
Lads it was a 2nd yellow card I am not too sure where this black card chat has come from.
But equally I don't think it merited a yellow card. Every contact shouldn't mean a yellow card.
Very harsh for a second yellow and even the first was for a bit of pushing and shoving, does those 2 things really warrant being sent off in an Ulster championship match? Games gone :D
Yellow! A neck high tackle is yellow, there's zero ambiguity here
Quote from: square_ball on April 13, 2026, 08:27:33 AMQuote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 12:48:48 AMI hope it is applied consistently, as there will be a lot of black cards like that this season.
Lads it was a 2nd yellow card I am not too sure where this black card chat has come from.
But equally I don't think it merited a yellow card. Every contact shouldn't mean a yellow card.
will caveat by saying I was on the opposite sideof the pitch but it did look like the ref gave him a black. Probably where the chat about a black is coming from
Quote from: JoG2 on April 13, 2026, 08:48:35 AMYellow! A neck high tackle is yellow, there's zero ambiguity here
Whats the exact wording in the rule book regarding 'a neck high tackle is yellow'?
Rough play. Also thought the tackle on Kennedy verged on dangerous play.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on April 13, 2026, 09:11:52 AMRough play. Also thought the tackle on Kennedy verged on dangerous play.
Haven't seen it. Was it worse than the one on Jarly Og?
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:16:45 AMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on April 13, 2026, 09:11:52 AMRough play. Also thought the tackle on Kennedy verged on dangerous play.
Haven't seen it. Was it worse than the one on Jarly Og?
He jumped to avoid contact and got spun around. Looks worse than it was.
McGeary got took out from behind, Armagh defender made sure to leave plenty in the tackle and he had to go off injured. Don't know where the victimhood of the Armagh supporters is coming from, they clearly benefited from vast majority of refereeing decisions, frees in the wrong place, advantages for the slightest tackle whilst ignored several times on the opposing side. No.11 got into a shoving match and got yellowed along with Tyrone man, then fouled neck high from behind with 3 minutes to go thinking it was a good foul and worth the second yellow card.
Scoreable free count for both teams highlights the disparity, Canavan, McKernan and McElholm all fouled in attacking zone but none given. On the flip side Jarly og was given 3 soft frees for minimal contact and absolutely no idea what McCormack was given the free for when he caught the garryowen.
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 11:46:14 PMHigh tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Tyrone will be happier losing to their big rivals with 14 men? If that's the case they have fallen further than I thought. Anyone that has watched Armagh or thought this was a given pre match need their head looked at. I said to a friend at game way it started had alot of similarity to Galway game in league where Armagh appeared much better side early on but wasn't reflected on scoreboard. Armagh will be delighted to win and in the manner they did with all the talk being that Donegal will beat them handy.
Tyrone are definitely back!
Quote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:30:27 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 11:46:14 PMHigh tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Tyrone will be happier losing to their big rivals with 14 men? If that's the case they have fallen further than I thought. Anyone that has watched Armagh or thought this was a given pre match need their head looked at. I said to a friend at game way it started had alot of similarity to Galway game in league where Armagh appeared much better side early on but wasn't reflected on scoreboard. Armagh will be delighted to win and in the manner they did with all the talk being that Donegal will beat them handy.
With 14 men? 67 mins were played 15 v 15. Bit of spin there. Plus you're ignoring the two key men off in the early stages of the game. Tyrone have absolutely fallen away, think everyone in Tyrone knows that. We are under no illusion on that unfortunately. Armagh on the other hand are meant to be one of the top teams who can challenge Kerry. There are serious question marks on that imo.
Quote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:49:14 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on April 12, 2026, 07:38:42 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
So he didn't say anything that wasn't true
Must be on the stuff the other lad on if he think they can't beat Fermanagh playing like that!
no need for that comment. You must also have missed the part where he said that Tyrone have serious quality and dismissed what was being said about Tyrone in the media.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 13, 2026, 09:35:34 AMQuote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:30:27 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 11:46:14 PMHigh tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Tyrone will be happier losing to their big rivals with 14 men? If that's the case they have fallen further than I thought. Anyone that has watched Armagh or thought this was a given pre match need their head looked at. I said to a friend at game way it started had alot of similarity to Galway game in league where Armagh appeared much better side early on but wasn't reflected on scoreboard. Armagh will be delighted to win and in the manner they did with all the talk being that Donegal will beat them handy.
With 14 men? 67 mins were played 15 v 15. Bit of spin there. Plus you're ignoring the two key men off in the early stages of the game. Tyrone have absolutely fallen away, think everyone in Tyrone knows that. We are under no illusion on that unfortunately. Armagh on the other hand are meant to be one of the top teams who can challenge Kerry. There are serious question marks on that imo.
Yes 14 men when game was in melting pot and there for the winning. There was also serious questions asked when beat Down by a point two years ago. Armagh as others have said don't tend to do things easy but it's a results business in championship. Murnin and McCambridge are massive players for Armagh not involved and limited minutes for grugan and Joe McElroy if you want go down that road.
Quote from: RedhandEastie on April 13, 2026, 09:24:00 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:16:45 AMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on April 13, 2026, 09:11:52 AMRough play. Also thought the tackle on Kennedy verged on dangerous play.
Haven't seen it. Was it worse than the one on Jarly Og?
He jumped to avoid contact and got spun around. Looks worse than it was.
McGeary got took out from behind, Armagh defender made sure to leave plenty in the tackle and he had to go off injured. Don't know where the victimhood of the Armagh supporters is coming from, they clearly benefited from vast majority of refereeing decisions, frees in the wrong place, advantages for the slightest tackle whilst ignored several times on the opposing side. No.11 got into a shoving match and got yellowed along with Tyrone man, then fouled neck high from behind with 3 minutes to go thinking it was a good foul and worth the second yellow card.
Scoreable free count for both teams highlights the disparity, Canavan, McKernan and McElholm all fouled in attacking zone but none given. On the flip side Jarly og was given 3 soft frees for minimal contact and absolutely no idea what McCormack was given the free for when he caught the garryowen.
LOL
Quote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:45:35 AMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:49:14 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on April 12, 2026, 07:38:42 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
So he didn't say anything that wasn't true
Must be on the stuff the other lad on if he think they can't beat Fermanagh playing like that!
no need for that comment. You must also have missed the part where he said that Tyrone have serious quality and dismissed what was being said about Tyrone in the media.
doesnt suit the agenda you see
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 13, 2026, 09:35:34 AMQuote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:30:27 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 11:46:14 PMHigh tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Tyrone will be happier losing to their big rivals with 14 men? If that's the case they have fallen further than I thought. Anyone that has watched Armagh or thought this was a given pre match need their head looked at. I said to a friend at game way it started had alot of similarity to Galway game in league where Armagh appeared much better side early on but wasn't reflected on scoreboard. Armagh will be delighted to win and in the manner they did with all the talk being that Donegal will beat them handy.
With 14 men? 67 mins were played 15 v 15. Bit of spin there. Plus you're ignoring the two key men off in the early stages of the game. Tyrone have absolutely fallen away, think everyone in Tyrone knows that. We are under no illusion on that unfortunately. Armagh on the other hand are meant to be one of the top teams who can challenge Kerry. There are serious question marks on that imo.
if yesterday showed anything it showed there is life in Tyrone yet. Disappointing to lose but definitely showed you can have a decent summer. Draw dependent of course
Quote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:52:51 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on April 13, 2026, 09:35:34 AMQuote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:30:27 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 11:46:14 PMHigh tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Tyrone will be happier losing to their big rivals with 14 men? If that's the case they have fallen further than I thought. Anyone that has watched Armagh or thought this was a given pre match need their head looked at. I said to a friend at game way it started had alot of similarity to Galway game in league where Armagh appeared much better side early on but wasn't reflected on scoreboard. Armagh will be delighted to win and in the manner they did with all the talk being that Donegal will beat them handy.
With 14 men? 67 mins were played 15 v 15. Bit of spin there. Plus you're ignoring the two key men off in the early stages of the game. Tyrone have absolutely fallen away, think everyone in Tyrone knows that. We are under no illusion on that unfortunately. Armagh on the other hand are meant to be one of the top teams who can challenge Kerry. There are serious question marks on that imo.
Yes 14 men when game was in melting pot and there for the winning. There was also serious questions asked when beat Down by a point two years ago. Armagh as others have said don't tend to do things easy but it's a results business in championship. Murnin and McCambridge are massive players for Armagh not involved and limited minutes for grugan and Joe McElroy if you want go down that road.
Yeah I said that yesterday, thankfully were fit to get over the line without being great. If the rest of the year plays out the same as '24 we'd be happy enough!
Dug deep without playing well which will stand us better in the long run than if we'd turned up and hammered them, another positive is we did it without any of that older cohort apart from a few minutes of Paddy Burns and Grugan. Definitely not a gimme in Brewster but barring a big shock in one of the games we've a showdown with Donegal coming up in Clones and will need to improve big time.
Quote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:45:35 AMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:49:14 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on April 12, 2026, 07:38:42 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on April 12, 2026, 07:18:39 PMSaid that performance won't beat anyone else.
Tyrone are a good side and maybe he should check himself and realise that Armagh aren't that big a shake and that there performance was in line with there oppositions hunger and ability!
So he didn't say anything that wasn't true
Must be on the stuff the other lad on if he think they can't beat Fermanagh playing like that!
no need for that comment. You must also have missed the part where he said that Tyrone have serious quality and dismissed what was being said about Tyrone in the media.
Glass houses and all that...
Quote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:52:51 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on April 13, 2026, 09:35:34 AMQuote from: statto on April 13, 2026, 09:30:27 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on April 12, 2026, 11:46:14 PMHigh tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.
If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.
Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.
Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.
Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.
Tyrone will be happier losing to their big rivals with 14 men? If that's the case they have fallen further than I thought. Anyone that has watched Armagh or thought this was a given pre match need their head looked at. I said to a friend at game way it started had alot of similarity to Galway game in league where Armagh appeared much better side early on but wasn't reflected on scoreboard. Armagh will be delighted to win and in the manner they did with all the talk being that Donegal will beat them handy.
With 14 men? 67 mins were played 15 v 15. Bit of spin there. Plus you're ignoring the two key men off in the early stages of the game. Tyrone have absolutely fallen away, think everyone in Tyrone knows that. We are under no illusion on that unfortunately. Armagh on the other hand are meant to be one of the top teams who can challenge Kerry. There are serious question marks on that imo.
Yes 14 men when game was in melting pot and there for the winning. There was also serious questions asked when beat Down by a point two years ago. Armagh as others have said don't tend to do things easy but it's a results business in championship. Murnin and McCambridge are massive players for Armagh not involved and limited minutes for grugan and Joe McElroy if you want go down that road.
So your still want to ignore the 67 mins when it was all level on numbers? Knock yourself out. Tyrone were missing players too. The reality was there was nothing between them for 70 mins. And that should concern Armagh more than Tyrone given their current aspirations.
Of course there will be concern but still in the Ulster championship to rectify it. As said in previous post, leaving key players on the bench could have been costly. However, some of these players haven't played this year.
Quote from: illdecide on March 31, 2026, 03:14:21 PMI agree, Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass, can you imagine the team talks after training getting ready for this match. Tyrone will be loving this as underdogs and will not be easily beaten. I do expect Armagh to win but wouldn't rule out a draw or wouldn't be shocked if we are beat. This is not Antrim or Fermanagh, this is Tyrone and they should be rightly feared.
Sorry to blow but i did call it...
My take on it with the Orange tinted glasses off are as follows...
Tyrone could easily have won that game yesterday, they had bad luck with injuries to key players and really did kick themselves out of it missing awful chances, I know Armagh ended up with similar wides in the end but Tyrone's shots looked easier to score than some of Armagh's chances. I got what i expected from Tyrone yesterday and TBh have a really good midfield but if they have a good day infront of goal they can beat majority of teams on their day.
As for the Ref...Jasus lads, C'mon. He was fussy and blew a lot for both teams, Tyrone got done a few time for soft ones and so did Armagh. When you had the chances you created yesterday and missed so many you can't blame the Ref for that, you got Armagh on a bad day and unfortunately you didn't have your shooting boots on either.
As for Armagh...well below par performance and it's clear that Grugan, McCambridge and Murnin are not ready yet and I'm glad they were not risked yesterday although that Grugan move was a bit bizzare at the end of normal time on and off. I thought the sending off was very harsh and I agree with wee Pete on that, McMullan was probably or most consistant player yesterday and he was really missed. He glides over the grass and has great ball carrying skills, he is a quality footballer. Armagh got away with one yesterday and they will know that but it's great to come out of a game like that on the right side for a change and it will def sharpen their focus going forward. Armagh's injured players now have a chance to get another few weeks trainig into the legs and without disrespecting Fermanagh I would be targeting the semi final with them lads (if we get there).
Strange one naming Murnin and McCambridge and not using them, why not name even a young lad who could have came in and at least be fresh legs late on. Job done and on to the next. Agree on McMullen, such a classy player. Worrying amount of balls dropped etc which isn't good enough for this level although conditions didn't help.
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:16:45 AMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on April 13, 2026, 09:11:52 AMRough play. Also thought the tackle on Kennedy verged on dangerous play.
Haven't seen it. Was it worse than the one on Jarly Og?
I actually thought both calls on these incidents were correct.
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 13, 2026, 11:01:06 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:16:45 AMQuote from: Stall the Bailer on April 13, 2026, 09:11:52 AMRough play. Also thought the tackle on Kennedy verged on dangerous play.
Haven't seen it. Was it worse than the one on Jarly Og?
I actually thought both calls on these incidents were correct.
In fairness the Jarly Og one was a slightly mistimed hit and looked dramatic due to the way he fell (typical fecking Jarly) yellow was correct call. Would need to see the Kennedy one back
I didn't think there was anything in the Kennedy incident at all. Looked more almost a coming together and more on his part than the Armagh fella's.
Hard to know where to start. Armagh finish with 14 however Tyrone finish with a team that was cobbled together through the misfortunate injuries of some of our most influential players.
The lads that were called upon put in a serious shift maybe not perfect in a football sense but all involved will be getting some much needed recovery today.
Outside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMOutside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Tiktok supporters , every county has them now unfortunately. Fighting in the shops and on Hill 16 and the likes. Probably never were taken to a game in their lives , and don't know or were told how to behave.
My dad took us all over the country to matches , and if you came out with a mouthful like I imagine you heard , you'd get a clout. Men around you wouldn't be long putting you in your box either
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 13, 2026, 12:03:26 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMOutside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Tiktok supporters , every county has them now unfortunately. Fighting in the shops and on Hill 16 and the likes. Probably never were taken to a game in their lives , and don't know or were told how to behave.
My dad took us all over the country to matches , and if you came out with a mouthful like I imagine you heard , you'd get a clout. Men around you wouldn't be long putting you in your box either
Get them from all counties and while the vast majority of Armagh and even Tyrone supporters are sound you'll always have gobshites
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 13, 2026, 12:03:26 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMOutside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Tiktok supporters , every county has them now unfortunately. Fighting in the shops and on Hill 16 and the likes. Probably never were taken to a game in their lives , and don't know or were told how to behave.
My dad took us all over the country to matches , and if you came out with a mouthful like I imagine you heard , you'd get a clout. Men around you wouldn't be long putting you in your box either
Some bandwagon, wasn't many cries about the best support in Ireland when they were languishing in division 3, and there won't be the next time it happens either. Plenty that wouldn't look at the club out the back window either
Quote from: ClubScene13 on April 13, 2026, 12:14:05 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on April 13, 2026, 12:03:26 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMOutside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Tiktok supporters , every county has them now unfortunately. Fighting in the shops and on Hill 16 and the likes. Probably never were taken to a game in their lives , and don't know or were told how to behave.
My dad took us all over the country to matches , and if you came out with a mouthful like I imagine you heard , you'd get a clout. Men around you wouldn't be long putting you in your box either
Some bandwagon, wasn't many cries about the best support in Ireland when they were languishing in division 3, and there won't be the next time it happens either. Plenty that wouldn't look at the club out the back window either
I'll think you'll find there was plenty who followed Armagh up and down the country when they were in division 3.
Jesus Christ, let's start taking swipes at fans now; talk about school playground stuff.
Like the good old days.
Still can't take their beating tho, stings...
Quote from: ClubScene13 on April 13, 2026, 12:14:05 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on April 13, 2026, 12:03:26 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMOutside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Tiktok supporters , every county has them now unfortunately. Fighting in the shops and on Hill 16 and the likes. Probably never were taken to a game in their lives , and don't know or were told how to behave.
My dad took us all over the country to matches , and if you came out with a mouthful like I imagine you heard , you'd get a clout. Men around you wouldn't be long putting you in your box either
Some bandwagon, wasn't many cries about the best support in Ireland when they were languishing in division 3, and there won't be the next time it happens either. Plenty that wouldn't look at the club out the back window either
following Armagh in Div 3 was great actually. Plenty of fans at games regardless of where they were. Vey fond memories of those days
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMHard to know where to start. Armagh finish with 14 however Tyrone finish with a team that was cobbled together through the misfortunate injuries of some of our most influential players.
The lads that were called upon put in a serious shift maybe not perfect in a football sense but all involved will be getting some much needed recovery today.
Outside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
every county has their shitebags as you call them
Quote from: bennydorano on April 13, 2026, 12:43:19 PMLike the good old days.
Still can't take their beating tho, stings...
Ah good to see them back out and yapping, maybe the world is healing :D
Quote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 12:32:38 PMJesus Christ, let's start taking swipes at fans now; talk about school playground stuff.
I said not all but far more than I've come across elsewhere travelling for 20 years to Tyrone games regardless of competition or location..
The stuff I heard at the weekend you wouldn't hear in a playground from any cub that was even half reared. disgraceful.
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 01:52:29 PMQuote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 12:32:38 PMJesus Christ, let's start taking swipes at fans now; talk about school playground stuff.
I said not all but far more than I've come across elsewhere travelling for 20 years to Tyrone games regardless of competition or location..
The stuff I heard at the weekend you wouldn't hear in a playground from any cub that was even half reared. disgraceful.
Not disagreeing it is disgraceful but unfortunately it is the times we live in. You are going to get Armagh fans that have the same experience as you with Tyrone fans. It is like what people have said it is everywhere and in every county.
Quote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 02:06:26 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 01:52:29 PMQuote from: Solo_run on April 13, 2026, 12:32:38 PMJesus Christ, let's start taking swipes at fans now; talk about school playground stuff.
I said not all but far more than I've come across elsewhere travelling for 20 years to Tyrone games regardless of competition or location..
The stuff I heard at the weekend you wouldn't hear in a playground from any cub that was even half reared. disgraceful.
Not disagreeing it is disgraceful but unfortunately it is the times we live in. You are going to get Armagh fans that have the same experience as you with Tyrone fans. It is like what people have said it is everywhere and in every county.
Yep do get it regular. Have to say I didn't hear anything out of the ordinary yesterday, odd bit of shouting and roaring but all grand
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 02:17:03 PMYep do get it regular. Have to say I didn't hear anything out of the ordinary yesterday, odd bit of shouting and roaring but all grand
Clones seems to major in a certain class of "fan", There is not the same scope for a road trip to Armagh, it is too near Lurgan. Given the attendances at Armagh league games this year, it was not the first time to go to a game for almost all present and they were regular football people. There had been almost as many Galway and Kerry people at game in Armagh this year as Tyrone people yesterday, Tyronies need to get behind their team.
Reading some of the Tyronies on this thread just makes our victory all the sweeter
Armagh won with 47% shooting accuracy, that shouldn't be enough to win a game at that level, but when the opposition insist on pot shotting their way to 38% conversion the door was left open and Armagh walked through it
As a casual observer of yesterday's game, what was the craic with the subs from Armagh?
Did they not have a full panel?
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMHard to know where to start. Armagh finish with 14 however Tyrone finish with a team that was cobbled together through the misfortunate injuries of some of our most influential players.
The lads that were called upon put in a serious shift maybe not perfect in a football sense but all involved will be getting some much needed recovery today.
Outside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
I was in Nialls Cresant Terrace and never heard anything untoward. There was a big laugh when someone in the seated stand shouted at the ref to get a hold of the game.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 13, 2026, 02:55:17 PMReading some of the Tyronies on this thread just makes our victory all the sweeter
Dont see too many tyrone ones complaining. Ironically i think tyrone ones are actually happy enough with how the team played given this years performances.
Would imagine geezer isn't too happy that it took extra time to beat a tyrone side with more losses than wins in Division 2.
Either way no one is coming close to Kerry or Donegal this year anyway.
Armagh just need to get their All Ireland winning team back and they'll be fine
Quote from: An Watcher on April 13, 2026, 06:21:47 PMArmagh just need to get their All Ireland winning team back and they'll be fine
Any day now!
Quote from: Orior on April 13, 2026, 05:57:57 PMQuote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMHard to know where to start. Armagh finish with 14 however Tyrone finish with a team that was cobbled together through the misfortunate injuries of some of our most influential players.
The lads that were called upon put in a serious shift maybe not perfect in a football sense but all involved will be getting some much needed recovery today.
Outside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
I was in Nialls Cresant Terrace and never heard anything untoward. There was a big laugh when someone in the seated stand shouted at the ref to get a hold of the game.
I was in the same terrace and can confirm this was hilarious... absolutely no reason for it at all.
I came outta Armagh on Sunday feeling much happier than when I went in.
With a Donegal partner and loads of her family so anti Tyrone, they would be loving a chance for revenge for last years defeat.:-)
I thought there was a good atmosphere where we were standing along the side where O'Neill stole his yards and Morgan hurt his calves when he landed. Bit of healthy banter but nothing too bad.
Of course you don't like losing any game but with so many new players brought in and Darragh off so early and McCurry not at the races at all, I think we did very well to get so close to a surprise win over one of the top 3 teams in the country.
Yes Armagh were missing some of their best men too but we stood up and showed character to come back from what looked like a hammering at 6-1 down.
Jordan had an off day with some tough far out frees which probably drained his confidence and Mattie showed us yet again he's not just there to make up the numbers and adds a bit of muscle and strenth that so many of our forwards lack.
Ulster as we all know is a minefield and with Fermanagh, Donegal/Down and probably Derry in the final I'm happy enuf to be out of it with injuries and suspensions all possible. We all end up at the same stage anyway but the only down side is we have an away game in round 1 of the All Ireland but you'd be hoping of still making the latter stages. I dont think we or many can match Donegal or Kerry but I think we can give any of the others a good game if we can get our full team fully fit and firing.
On another note, I'm really fed up watching so many of our forwards not making incisive runs into the arc area but rather skirt around the edge of it waiting for the perfect moment. It's all totally off the training ground and nobody thinks for themselves. You can see times when Darragh, McCurry, McElholm and Jordan had chances to shoot but chose (or were told) to turn back and recycle. OMG it's so frustrating to watch good players not having a go from often 20-30 yards
Yep the forward play is annoying to watch. The arc might be to close to goal.
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 14, 2026, 12:01:00 PMI came outta Armagh on Sunday feeling much happier than when I went in.
With a Donegal partner and loads of her family so anti Tyrone, they would be loving a chance for revenge for last years defeat.:-)
I thought there was a good atmosphere where we were standing along the side where O'Neill stole his yards and Morgan hurt his calves when he landed. Bit of healthy banter but nothing too bad.
Of course you don't like losing any game but with so many new players brought in and Darragh off so early and McCurry not at the races at all, I think we did very well to get so close to a surprise win over one of the top 3 teams in the country.
Yes Armagh were missing some of their best men too but we stood up and showed character to come back from what looked like a hammering at 6-1 down.
Jordan had an off day with some tough far out frees which probably drained his confidence and Mattie showed us yet again he's not just there to make up the numbers and adds a bit of muscle and strenth that so many of our forwards lack.
Ulster as we all know is a minefield and with Fermanagh, Donegal/Down and probably Derry in the final I'm happy enuf to be out of it with injuries and suspensions all possible. We all end up at the same stage anyway but the only down side is we have an away game in round 1 of the All Ireland but you'd be hoping of still making the latter stages. I dont think we or many can match Donegal or Kerry but I think we can give any of the others a good game if we can get our full team fully fit and firing.
On another note, I'm really fed up watching so many of our forwards not making incisive runs into the arc area but rather skirt around the edge of it waiting for the perfect moment. It's all totally off the training ground and nobody thinks for themselves. You can see times when Darragh, McCurry, McElholm and Jordan had chances to shoot but chose (or were told) to turn back and recycle. OMG it's so frustrating to watch good players not having a go from often 20-30 yards
Donnelly still a class act. A joy to watch, albeit, not so much on Sunday......
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 14, 2026, 01:12:15 PMQuote from: Fuzzman on April 14, 2026, 12:01:00 PMI came outta Armagh on Sunday feeling much happier than when I went in.
With a Donegal partner and loads of her family so anti Tyrone, they would be loving a chance for revenge for last years defeat.:-)
I thought there was a good atmosphere where we were standing along the side where O'Neill stole his yards and Morgan hurt his calves when he landed. Bit of healthy banter but nothing too bad.
Of course you don't like losing any game but with so many new players brought in and Darragh off so early and McCurry not at the races at all, I think we did very well to get so close to a surprise win over one of the top 3 teams in the country.
Yes Armagh were missing some of their best men too but we stood up and showed character to come back from what looked like a hammering at 6-1 down.
Jordan had an off day with some tough far out frees which probably drained his confidence and Mattie showed us yet again he's not just there to make up the numbers and adds a bit of muscle and strenth that so many of our forwards lack.
Ulster as we all know is a minefield and with Fermanagh, Donegal/Down and probably Derry in the final I'm happy enuf to be out of it with injuries and suspensions all possible. We all end up at the same stage anyway but the only down side is we have an away game in round 1 of the All Ireland but you'd be hoping of still making the latter stages. I dont think we or many can match Donegal or Kerry but I think we can give any of the others a good game if we can get our full team fully fit and firing.
On another note, I'm really fed up watching so many of our forwards not making incisive runs into the arc area but rather skirt around the edge of it waiting for the perfect moment. It's all totally off the training ground and nobody thinks for themselves. You can see times when Darragh, McCurry, McElholm and Jordan had chances to shoot but chose (or were told) to turn back and recycle. OMG it's so frustrating to watch good players not having a go from often 20-30 yards
Donnelly still a class act. A joy to watch, albeit, not so much on Sunday......
Top, top player. We really struggled with him.
Since when was the PSNI "allowed" into gaa matches?
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on April 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMHard to know where to start. Armagh finish with 14 however Tyrone finish with a team that was cobbled together through the misfortunate injuries of some of our most influential players.
The lads that were called upon put in a serious shift maybe not perfect in a football sense but all involved will be getting some much needed recovery today.
Outside the game however. call it passion or whatever you want is there a bigger shower of shitebags following Gaelic football at the moment than some sections of Armagh support. some of the things roared around us would see you leave any bar or nightclub in the country battered.. the more level headed Armagh supporters around in the stand also appalled by what was being said.
The sooner the flash in the pan Armagh team have here fizzle out and back to mediocrity the better. Unbearable Support.
Bit ashamed to admit I found myself shouting out 'durtbag' at your no 3 for a needless act early on.'Durtbag' isn't the hippest of profanities these days.
I get a bit Tourettesy at matches. Good days & bad.
Quote from: Brendan on April 14, 2026, 01:28:32 PMSince when was the PSNI "allowed" into gaa matches?
I don't know but Seamie Bwyson not happy so he's not.
Which rule was it - 21 or 42? I assume playing is what's meant there? That's been ok for 20-25 years sure...
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 14, 2026, 12:01:00 PMI came outta Armagh on Sunday feeling much happier than when I went in.
With a Donegal partner and loads of her family so anti Tyrone, they would be loving a chance for revenge for last years defeat.:-)
I thought there was a good atmosphere where we were standing along the side where O'Neill stole his yards and Morgan hurt his calves when he landed. Bit of healthy banter but nothing too bad.
Of course you don't like losing any game but with so many new players brought in and Darragh off so early and McCurry not at the races at all, I think we did very well to get so close to a surprise win over one of the top 3 teams in the country.
Yes Armagh were missing some of their best men too but we stood up and showed character to come back from what looked like a hammering at 6-1 down.
Jordan had an off day with some tough far out frees which probably drained his confidence and Mattie showed us yet again he's not just there to make up the numbers and adds a bit of muscle and strenth that so many of our forwards lack.
Ulster as we all know is a minefield and with Fermanagh, Donegal/Down and probably Derry in the final I'm happy enuf to be out of it with injuries and suspensions all possible. We all end up at the same stage anyway but the only down side is we have an away game in round 1 of the All Ireland but you'd be hoping of still making the latter stages. I dont think we or many can match Donegal or Kerry but I think we can give any of the others a good game if we can get our full team fully fit and firing.
On another note, I'm really fed up watching so many of our forwards not making incisive runs into the arc area but rather skirt around the edge of it waiting for the perfect moment. It's all totally off the training ground and nobody thinks for themselves. You can see times when Darragh, McCurry, McElholm and Jordan had chances to shoot but chose (or were told) to turn back and recycle. OMG it's so frustrating to watch good players not having a go from often 20-30 yards
Fair enough post...I said a few pages back that Tyrone had bad luck on the day losing a few of their better players early on with injury and some wayward shooting. Matty is a fine player and is well put together with good experience so is vital to Tyrone...Can't see Tyrone winning Sam but they'll bloody a few noses before it's all over. As for Armagh...They're decent and have an outside chance but are missing a few quality forwards, they need a full team and they need to pull a 1-2 quality forwards out from somewhere to have any chance of Sam...Kerry and Donegal are the 2 teams way out in from and the teams to beat but they're not unbeatable.
Then there's always the chance that Donegal beat Kerry and its an all Ulster All Ireland final
Lot of ball to be played yet... 2 years ago people nearly had Derry crowned as champions at this stage before Donegal tanked them, last year it was between Donegal or Galway early doors, probably 4 maybe 5 teams with a fair chance and others capable of taking scalps.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2026, 03:27:53 PMWhich rule was it - 21 or 42? I assume playing is what's meant there? That's been ok for 20-25 years sure...
Nope, uniformed cops inside the ground
Quote from: Brendan on April 14, 2026, 05:25:55 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2026, 03:27:53 PMWhich rule was it - 21 or 42? I assume playing is what's meant there? That's been ok for 20-25 years sure...
Nope, uniformed cops inside the ground
Takes a lot to keep an eye on them Tyronies you know
If it rattles Bryson, its good enough for me!
Quote from: Brendan on April 14, 2026, 05:25:55 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2026, 03:27:53 PMWhich rule was it - 21 or 42? I assume playing is what's meant there? That's been ok for 20-25 years sure...
Nope, uniformed cops inside the ground
Didn't notice that
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2026, 06:15:06 PMIf it rattles Bryson, its good enough for me!
Tell Bwyson to breathe
Armagh really took the ball by the horns in extra time. They were very efficient in the early moments of ET when the game was in the balance. A less profligate Tyrone could have capitalised.
Technically, it wasn't a classic. But it was a very enthralling start to 2026.
Was at it and it came across to me that it took Tyrone 20-25 mins to realise they're just as good as Armagh.
The younger lads will learn a lot from this. Armagh are so weathered in these types of close games but a very raw Tyrone side almost took them.
Dunno if anyone has mentioned it, but Armagh should have had a free-in at the very end of normal time. Armagh lad was tripped.