Liverpool again ??
Then Arsenal and Man City
others .....
It's the best chance Arsenal will have in a generation. City in transition, Liverpool will not get lucky two seasons in a row.
Quote from: Dire Ear on August 15, 2025, 04:06:09 PMLiverpool again ??
Then Arsenal and Man City
others .....
Liverpool again yes and might have an actual title race this season to keep neutrals interested.
As for others Chelsea look capable of finishing the season ahead of Arsenal or Manchester City.
At the other end of the table can the three promoted teams avoid relegation?
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 04:14:52 PMIt's the best chance Arsenal will have in a generation. City in transition, Liverpool will not get lucky two seasons in a row.
Arsenal have 13 titles won't be another generation before we win one. Don't think we win it this year - Don't think we have what it takes to get over the line just yet
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2025, 05:46:47 PMQuote from: Dire Ear on August 15, 2025, 04:06:09 PMLiverpool again ??
Then Arsenal and Man City
others .....
Liverpool again yes and might have an actual title race this season to keep neutrals interested.
As for others Chelsea look capable of finishing the season ahead of Arsenal or Manchester City.
At the other end of the table can the three promoted teams avoid relegation?
I can see a whole host of teams being in that relegation fight to be fair.. Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth (lost a back 4), dark horses Fulham to be around the drop too if they don't add signings
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2025, 05:46:47 PMAt the other end of the table can the three promoted teams avoid relegation?
I think Leeds will stay up
Predictions
1. City
2. Arsenal
3. Liverpool
4. Chelsea
5. Villa
6. Spurs
7. Newcastle
8. Manchester United
9. Brighton
10. Palace
11. Everton
12. West Ham
13. Bournemouth
14. Fulham
15. Forest
16. Leeds
17. Sunderland
18. Wolves
19. Brentford
20. Burnley
Liverpool will coast to another PL.
Slot a better manager than Klopp.
Man City in transition
Chelsea and Arsenal fill togs when going gets tough.
Tottenham are Tottenham. Ditto Vila.
Newcastle will struggle this year without Isak going to Pool.
Man Utd be closer to relegation than top.
Handy start Pool this evening. Should be 2-3 nil. Bournemouth will struggle reach heights of last year.
Have Liverpool in LMS this week too.
Spurs any value for the top four?
Utd top 6 ?
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 15, 2025, 06:34:12 PMLiverpool will coast to another PL.
Slot a better manager than Klopp.
Man City in transition
Chelsea and Arsenal fill togs when going gets tough.
Tottenham are Tottenham. Ditto Vila.
Newcastle will struggle this year without Isak going to Pool.
Man Utd be closer to relegation than top.
How much evidence is there that Slot is better than Klopp?
He kept it going with an inherited team, but by spring time, they were seriously losing momentum.
This season will be a proper test for him.
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 05:47:11 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 04:14:52 PMIt's the best chance Arsenal will have in a generation. City in transition, Liverpool will not get lucky two seasons in a row.
Arsenal have 13 titles won't be another generation before we win one. Don't think we win it this year - Don't think we have what it takes to get over the line just yet
Haven't won a league title since 2004 so would be a first in a generation if Arsenal won it this season.
Not sure on Dag Dogs view that its Arsenal best chance. Liverpool have stronger squad than last season with some shrewd transfer business and could well get 90 plus points this season, can Arsenal keep pace with that considering they only got 74 points last season? will be a big help should Gyökeres bring his goal scoring form into the Premier League.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 15, 2025, 07:51:33 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 05:47:11 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 04:14:52 PMIt's the best chance Arsenal will have in a generation. City in transition, Liverpool will not get lucky two seasons in a row.
Arsenal have 13 titles won't be another generation before we win one. Don't think we win it this year - Don't think we have what it takes to get over the line just yet
Haven't won a league title since 2004 so would be a first in a generation if Arsenal won it this season.
Not sure on Dag Dogs view that its Arsenal best chance. Liverpool have stronger squad than last season with some shrewd transfer business and could well get 90 plus points this season, can Arsenal keep pace with that considering they only got 74 points last season? will be a big help should Gyökeres bring his goal scoring form into the Premier League.
Unless Mikel changes his tactics I can't see it - Looked sluggish in pre-season, attack still all on Saka and if he does nothing relying on a set-piece which are still a pantomime show.
Gyokeres looked good from what I've seen from him and Havertz looks twice the player he was so saying that they will probably have a stinker against United on Sunday.
First VAR mistake of the season!
That's a handball!
Racism from Liverpool fans.
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:33:08 PMRacism from Liverpool fans.
Here we go something for the Dag Dogs and other amadans to lap up.
No one knows what happened yet but 1 idiot out of 60000 fans, all Liverpool fans will be racist now ::)
Black man scores for racist club.
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:33:08 PMRacism from Liverpool fans.
Keeping with their tradition :o
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:42:42 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:33:08 PMRacism from Liverpool fans.
Keeping with their tradition :o
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-issue-statement-following-racial-abuse-to-players-on-social-media
Quote from: jcpen on August 15, 2025, 08:46:46 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:42:42 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:33:08 PMRacism from Liverpool fans.
Keeping with their tradition :o
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-issue-statement-following-racial-abuse-to-players-on-social-media
Any random bot can log onto social media and post.
This evening was a paying Liverpool fan dishing it out.
Print the t-shirts, brush it under the carpet...
Quote from: jcpen on August 15, 2025, 08:50:31 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:49:20 PMQuote from: jcpen on August 15, 2025, 08:46:46 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:42:42 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:33:08 PMRacism from Liverpool fans.
Keeping with their tradition :o
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-issue-statement-following-racial-abuse-to-players-on-social-media
Any random bot can log onto social media and post.
This evening was a paying Liverpool fan dishing it out.
Print the t-shirts, brush it under the carpet...
You're a tool.
That's your best defence ;D
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:51:33 PMQuote from: jcpen on August 15, 2025, 08:50:31 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:49:20 PMQuote from: jcpen on August 15, 2025, 08:46:46 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 08:42:42 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:33:08 PMRacism from Liverpool fans.
Keeping with their tradition :o
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-issue-statement-following-racial-abuse-to-players-on-social-media
Any random bot can log onto social media and post.
This evening was a paying Liverpool fan dishing it out.
Print the t-shirts, brush it under the carpet...
You're a tool.
That's your best defence ;D
You are a tool though!
Here you go.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-60773592.amp
(https://i.imgur.com/IfAQmgD.gif)
That's your best defence ;D
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c7vlme23nm5o
Game over. Great start for Liverpool.
https://x.com/burdis80/status/1956444531043573920?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg
Caught red handed.. Hasn't a leg to stand on pardon the pun
Remember the abuse Evra got for reporting racism. I hope Semenyo doesn't suffer the same fate.
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:58:15 PMhttps://x.com/burdis80/status/1956444531043573920?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg
Caught red handed.. Hasn't a leg to stand on pardon the pun
Ironically he probably is an advocate for disabled rights.
This sort of thing probably happens dozens of times in every ground, fair play to the player for calling it out though. Hopefully this person will be banned if he did indeed say something racist.
Idiots everywhere unfortunately. >:(
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:58:15 PMhttps://x.com/burdis80/status/1956444531043573920?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg
Caught red handed.. Hasn't a leg to stand on pardon the pun
Probably faking a disability to collect benefits and get match tickets. He'll jump out of the chair when he gets home.
No harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 15, 2025, 08:58:15 PMhttps://x.com/burdis80/status/1956444531043573920?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg
Caught red handed.. Hasn't a leg to stand on pardon the pun
He'll do well to walk away after that.
Bournemouth are a slick enough outfit here
Quote from: johnnycool on August 15, 2025, 09:34:26 PMBournemouth are a slick enough outfit here
8) :o :o :o :o
The best way to shut up the racists :-)
LMS for another week. Never in doubt ;D .Great way to win.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 09:39:50 PMThe best way to shut up the racists :-)
The best way to shut Dag Dog up 😂
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 09:39:50 PMThe best way to shut up the racists :-)
Don't you mean racist?
On the evidence of tonight, Liverpool's defence is woeful and they won't be successfully defending their title ;D
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 09:57:45 PMOn the evidence of tonight, Liverpool's defence is woeful and they won't be successfully defending their title ;D
Well I guess that's that :(
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 15, 2025, 09:59:24 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 09:57:45 PMOn the evidence of tonight, Liverpool's defence is woeful and they won't be successfully defending their title ;D
Well I guess that's that :(
Afraid so. Another one-in-a-row title.
I haven't been that active on here over the past few years so don't know this Dag dog eegit.
There used to be a gobshite on here years ago called new devil. This gobshite above is very like him.
Quote from: laoislad on August 15, 2025, 10:07:59 PMI haven't been that active on here over the past few years so don't know this Dag dog eegit.
There used to be a gobshite on here years ago called new devil. This gobshite above is very like him.
Well spotted. Was thinking the same myself. The bantz is hitting new heights.
Quote from: laoislad on August 15, 2025, 10:07:59 PMI haven't been that active on here over the past few years.
😂
Quote from: laoislad on August 15, 2025, 10:07:59 PMI haven't been that active on here over the past few years so don't know this Dag dog eegit.
There used to be a gobshite on here years ago called new devil. This gobshite above is very like him.
Ha
Quote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 15, 2025, 10:15:06 PMQuote from: laoislad on August 15, 2025, 10:07:59 PMI haven't been that active on here over the past few years so don't know this Dag dog eegit.
There used to be a gobshite on here years ago called new devil. This gobshite above is very like him.
Well spotted. Was thinking the same myself. The bantz is hitting new heights.
Is the Stallion still around? Another absolute tool.
My favourite was EC Unique....
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 11:18:11 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Yea if you're having a go at someone because they're in a wheelchair, you're just as bad in my opinion.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2025, 12:47:55 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 11:18:11 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Yea if you're having a go at someone because they're in a wheelchair, you're just as bad in my opinion.
Should have tipped him out of it. Not because he is a person in a wheelchair - because he's a racist maggot... and deflated the tyres!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2025, 12:36:56 PMMy favourite was EC Unique....
Ah the 03 arena...what time to be alive!!
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2025, 12:47:55 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 11:18:11 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Yea if you're having a go at someone because they're in a wheelchair, you're just as bad in my opinion.
Ah, so he gets allowances to be racist, because he's wheelchair bound.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 16, 2025, 02:32:02 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2025, 12:47:55 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 11:18:11 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Yea if you're having a go at someone because they're in a wheelchair, you're just as bad in my opinion.
Ah, so he gets allowances to be racist, because he's wheelchair bound.
If you had brains you'd be dangerous.
You're expressing outrage(faux outrage really) because he was allegedly racist, but at the same time you're being ableist towards him.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 16, 2025, 02:32:02 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2025, 12:47:55 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 11:18:11 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Yea if you're having a go at someone because they're in a wheelchair, you're just as bad in my opinion.
Ah, so he gets allowances to be racist, because he's wheelchair bound.
What??
Quote from: jcpen on August 16, 2025, 02:38:12 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 16, 2025, 02:32:02 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2025, 12:47:55 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 11:18:11 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 15, 2025, 09:18:31 PMNo harm but abusing an opposition player like that is out of order whether racist or not, what does that actually achieve?
A bit of light-hearted abuse is fine but that level of venom is just senseless.
Semenyo should have jumped into the stand and deflated yer man's tyre!
Yea if you're having a go at someone because they're in a wheelchair, you're just as bad in my opinion.
Ah, so he gets allowances to be racist, because he's wheelchair bound.
If you had brains you'd be dangerous.
You're expressing outrage(faux outrage really) because he was allegedly racist, but at the same time you're being ableist towards him.
Maybe I'm in a wheelchair also...
Oh dear
BBC predictions for the top 4. Some has stayed loyal to their own clubs, heart over head predictions by the looks of it. Same top 4 teams as last season and perhaps harder to predict who will finish 5th or 6th?
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Handy win for Manchester City.
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 06:56:42 PMHandy win for Manchester City.
They've had their year off.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2025, 07:14:24 PMQuote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 06:56:42 PMHandy win for Manchester City.
They've had their year off.
Yup. A look at their subs bench and it will be obvious they will be up there, Rodri and foden both out also
Lovely scene at Wolves for their 18 and LFC's 20
Very ominous looking already. City had a bung season in 2019-20 and 24-25, and there's every sign that normal service has resumed.
The rest can start planning for a title tilt in 2029. ::)
Jury remains out on Manchester City simply beat what was in front of them tonight. That game said more about Wolves who will struggle to avoid the drop this season.
City won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 10:46:41 PMCity won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.
1. Based on recent history there's a 6 out of 8 chance City have more minerals than Liverpool.
2. Based on same recent history there's a 0% chance that Liverpool will back up a winning season with another one.
3. Leagues are rarely won on head to head, but more on the domination of the 14-16 weaker teams. As city have proven for years.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 16, 2025, 11:30:59 PMQuote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 10:46:41 PMCity won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.
1. Based on recent history there's a 6 out of 8 chance City have more minerals than Liverpool.
2. Based on same recent history there's a 0% chance that Liverpool will back up a winning season with another one.
3. Leagues are rarely won on head to head, but more on the domination of the 14-16 weaker teams. As city have proven for years.
Not in Anfield. Just two wins for City in their last 27 matches there and one of those wins was played in empty Anfield due to covid.
The 6 out of 8 refers to league titles, not matches.
Can Scouse outplay City? No doubt. They're a brilliant team. But there's a 75% chance it won't matter over the season. Numbers are more important than minerals.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 17, 2025, 12:19:22 AMThe 6 out of 8 refers to league titles, not matches.
Can Scouse outplay City? No doubt. They're a brilliant team. But there's a 75% chance it won't matter over the season. Numbers are more important than minerals.
when playing Liverpool the above poster said not titles.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 17, 2025, 12:19:22 AMThe 6 out of 8 refers to league titles, not matches.
Can Scouse outplay City? No doubt. They're a brilliant team. But there's a 75% chance it won't matter over the season. Numbers are more important than minerals.
Liverpool finished 13 points ahead of City in 1 of the last 1 seasons. Based on numbers and recent history there is a 100% chance this will happen again this year.
::)
Eze needs his asthma inhaler before he goes on the pitch for a few puffs.
Keith Andrews is going to be the first manager to be sacked isn't he.
Chelsea players go down very easily but then again shit is always good for the ground.
Arsenal 1-0 ahead in a half Man United looked the better team. Awful Goalkeeping on the games only goal.
Odegaard has looked gaunt this last 18 months, must have gone vegan or some shite, a couple of good square meals do him the world of good
Amiron be gone by Christmas. Man Utd be mid table again
Fairly boring 2nd half Arsenal probably played better in Old Trafford in the past and lost.
United still a goalkeeper away from being a decent team. Cunha looks like a baller.
Poor performance from Arsenal, lucky to get the win but 3 points is 3 points. Odegaard & Calafori only 2 I could say played well for us.
Thought United maybe could have had a pen? But wasn't VAR checked so probably got away with on le there.. Cunha and Mbeumo are going to rip apart some teams when they get up to speed with each others game.
Positive from United, badly need a keeper though. Unlucky not to nail one of those chances and looked like a penalty to me. Good signs so far
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 17, 2025, 09:02:20 PMPositive from United, badly need a keeper though. Unlucky not to nail one of those chances and looked like a penalty to me. Good signs so far
United looked very good at times I thought and played with great urgency.
But id imagine confidence is brittle so is there a danger that if they don't start picking up points soon that they could lose belief?
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 17, 2025, 09:02:20 PMPositive from United, badly need a keeper though. Unlucky not to nail one of those chances and looked like a penalty to me. Good signs so far
Good signs 😳 the manager is now statistically worse than Christian Gross tenure at Spurs
Match of the day 2 cutting back on the highlights of yesterdays and fridays goals. I hope they get back to showing the full goal in future shows.
Interesting start to the new season. Only really slightly surprised that Chelsea didnt get a result, but then Palace are a decent enough side.
I think we can already see that the likes of Wolves, West Ham, Burnley are going to struggle unless investment comes in the next few days.
On the Villa game, I thought they had really started to come into it in the 2nd half, after a very poor start. The Konsa red killed that momentum. If Newcastle had Isak they would have won. PSR, SCR and whatever other restrictions they can come up with have totally halted villa's progress. Frustrating.
Leeds jersey with a red bull sponsor is brutal.
Never a pen IMO. Everton hard done by
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2025, 09:29:38 PMLeeds jersey with a red bull sponsor is brutal.
Not as brutal as Everton, although that penalty call was harsh as he'd his arm down by his side and tried to deflect it with his chest.
I thought it was a penalty. He moved his body towards ball so took the chance.
Leans into it. Handball only outcome. Didn't need to do it either as Pickford was standing behind it. Just had a momentarily lapse. Leeds deserved winners. Everton were brutal.
Is it just me, or is Clinton Morrison a complete bluffer??
Quote from: Dire Ear on August 19, 2025, 07:47:37 PMIs it just me, or is Clinton Morrison a complete bluffer??
Garth Crooks' natural heir. Bubnly, enthusiastic... but mainly a box ticking exercise
Quote from: thewobbler on August 16, 2025, 11:30:59 PMQuote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 10:46:41 PMCity won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.
1. Based on recent history there's a 6 out of 8 chance City have more minerals than Liverpool.
2. Based on same recent history there's a 0% chance that Liverpool will back up a winning season with another one.
3. Leagues are rarely won on head to head, but more on the domination of the 14-16 weaker teams. As city have proven for years.
All them bookmakers must be stupid to have Liverpool favourites when according to the wobbler there's a 0% chance of Liverpool it this year.
Recent history tells us that Liverpool are premier league champions and all of history tells us that that are the most successful club in the premier league.
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 20, 2025, 05:14:37 AMQuote from: thewobbler on August 16, 2025, 11:30:59 PMQuote from: Dun Eile on August 16, 2025, 10:46:41 PMCity won't have the minerals when playing Liverpool.
1. Based on recent history there's a 6 out of 8 chance City have more minerals than Liverpool.
2. Based on same recent history there's a 0% chance that Liverpool will back up a winning season with another one.
3. Leagues are rarely won on head to head, but more on the domination of the 14-16 weaker teams. As city have proven for years.
All them bookmakers must be stupid to have Liverpool favourites when according to the wobbler there's a 0% chance of Liverpool it this year.
Recent history tells us that Liverpool are premier league champions and all of history tells us that that are the most successful club in the premier league.
It's now over 40 years since Liverpool won consecutive titles.
Even though numbers don't lie and numbers don't attack, some of y'all just don't like how numbers work.
Man City's blatant financial doping prevented Klopp going back to back, they may yet be awarded a title from that era if the charges against City are ever concluded, not that it'll be much cause for celebration at this stage, for me it's the reason Klopp packed it in
Good to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.
Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs. I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.
He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.
Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs. I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.
He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Good to put manners on players- you've signed a contract so honour it.
Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.
Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs. I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.
He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
He'll lose his 10% of the transfer fee if he does that allegedly.
How and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.
Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.
Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Teaching ?
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 09:15:14 AMQuote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.
Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs. I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.
He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Good to put manners on players- you've signed a contract so honour it.
Good way to ensure no serious player goes near you again too. I feel Newcastle are cutting their nose to spite their face. They could easily fill the gaps with the £110m that was offered but are going to end up with a massive asset on their books that they can't use, and will still be forced to sell in January or next summer for less.
lets be real here, players sign contracts to protect their value for the club. What we are increasingly seeing and will definitely see more after this, is players signing short term deals and leaving on frees, like trent Alexander Arnold. No-one will be singing a 5 year deal with Newcastle again without an attainable release clause in it. Suarez wanted out of liverpool years ago but signed a new deal with the promise of leaving the following year. The club got well paid for him and he got his move.
No harm but there's a way of doing things privately and a way of embarrassing the club publicly and Newcastle have chosen the let's embarrass ourselves option. Compare their handling of this situation with Salah, VVD and Trent's contract negotiation were handled at Liverpool, nothing was released to the press pretty much until the deals were done or in Trent's case, the league was won and the news was confirmed that he was leaving.
What did Newcastle really think they could achieve by refusing his transfer? Liverpool bid a very good price, they need the money to ease their PSR situation and ignoring Isak's wish to make more money and win things was going to leave with them with an unhappy player giving them grief in the changing room. When they bought him from Sociedad he had 3 years left on the contract so they can't exactly cry foul now that Liverpool are doing to them what they've done several times every summer for the past 20 years. They now seem to have realised that they stand to lose more by paying Isak 200k a week to play with the reserves for the next 3 years and are now going to sell him. Could they not have seen that's the position they were going to end up in 3 weeks ago?
If a player gets an offer from another club and they're keen to move it's pretty simple, you either improve his contract or conditions or you sell him and get as much as possible for him.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.
Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Any club who tried to implement such a policy would immediately lose everyone of their top players. It's not like clubs income is incentive-based, it's fairly predictable (match-day revenue, advertising, tv rights), so why would players expect their income to vary widely based on the teams performance?
Pretty much all of us, expect the self-employed, are on fixed salaries so your last sentence is just nonsense. Do you know a single employee who is on a salary where the majority is incentive-based?
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 09:15:14 AMQuote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2025, 09:10:04 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 20, 2025, 08:31:53 AMGood to see Newcastle taking a stand on Isak.
Yes good to see, and time will tell if he rots in the reserves, or comes back with his tail between his legs. I do not suspect that Newcastle will receive an offer high enough to sell.
He could always put in an official transfer request, but no doubt that would have negative financial implications for him.
Good to put manners on players- you've signed a contract so honour it.
The man in the street has a contract too but is free, with a period of notice, to quit when he likes and take up employment elsewhere. The 3 years left on Isak's contract was to protect Newcastle as much as anything, they were locking him into a contract where they'd receive a transfer fee if he left. Ignoring the historical way that 95% of football transfers work is the act of an idiot.
Newcastle are busy trying to sign Wissa, who's refusing to play for Brentford to get a move.
What's up with the fire sale at Villa? Rogers supposedly for sale now too, he would be a big loss.
Feel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will
Quote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will
Chelsea and United sell alot of jerseys.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2025, 07:54:54 AMQuote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will
Chelsea and United sell alot of jerseys.
Groundball is corrupt as f**k, can the Villa money men not just buy a million jerseys themselves and then spend those spends?
Quote from: tiempo on August 21, 2025, 08:24:56 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2025, 07:54:54 AMQuote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will
Chelsea and United sell alot of jerseys.
Groundball is corrupt as f**k, can the Villa money men not just buy a million jerseys themselves and then spend those spends?
That's basically what man city do.
Quote from: gawa316 on August 21, 2025, 07:40:18 AMFeel for Villa, they've been selling left, right and center and still have PSR issues while the likes of Chelsea and Utd continue to spend at will
;D
Feel for Villa? Aye right ::)
Quote from: trileacman on August 21, 2025, 12:09:29 AMWhat's up with the fire sale at Villa? Rogers supposedly for sale now too, he would be a big loss.
There is no credible source claiming that. No chance they sell Rogers right now.
It's not PSR that's the problem for Villa. They managed to navigate that , and they have a really bad financial year (end of Gerrard's tenure) falling out of the 3 year window going forward.
Their problem is the UEFA SCR rules. Limit of 70% of revenue to be spent on wages. As Villa are now in Europe for the 3rd year in a row, they need to fall in line. As part of their punishment for last year, their "A-list" for the Europa league must have a £0 net spend (transfers and wages) compared to their A-List from Champions League last season. That's why they've paid off the likes of Coutinho and Dendonker , rather than loan them out again.
Quote from: shark on August 21, 2025, 09:01:24 AMQuote from: trileacman on August 21, 2025, 12:09:29 AMWhat's up with the fire sale at Villa? Rogers supposedly for sale now too, he would be a big loss.
There is no credible source claiming that. No chance they sell Rogers right now.
It's not PSR that's the problem for Villa. They managed to navigate that , and they have a really bad financial year (end of Gerrard's tenure) falling out of the 3 year window going forward.
Their problem is the UEFA SCR rules. Limit of 70% of revenue to be spent on wages. As Villa are now in Europe for the 3rd year in a row, they need to fall in line. As part of their punishment for last year, their "A-list" for the Europa league must have a £0 net spend (transfers and wages) compared to their A-List from Champions League last season. That's why they've paid off the likes of Coutinho and Dendonker , rather than loan them out again.
Agree with all of that. They've fairly shifted some amount of wages over the past couple of weeks. Mings and Digne even restructured their deals for less. I'd say there is now room for a couple of loans in, but it certainly isn't the progress that the club would like to make.
Rogers isn't for sale, and certainly not for the fees Spurs like to present. 3m plus Onomah...
Potter must be up there for the first to get the sack
Reading this eve Nuno and the Forest eejit of an owner have fell out. And w ham like Nuno. Let's see what happens from here....
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2025, 11:40:15 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.
Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Any club who tried to implement such a policy would immediately lose everyone of their top players. It's not like clubs income is incentive-based, it's fairly predictable (match-day revenue, advertising, tv rights), so why would players expect their income to vary widely based on the teams performance?
Pretty much all of us, expect the self-employed, are on fixed salaries so your last sentence is just nonsense. Do you know a single employee who is on a salary where the majority is incentive-based?
Okay I'll put some more meat on this. Imagine being guaranteed a salary for a set duration, that is a multiple multiple (deliberately twice) of the average income, regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Average Joe doesn't get these terms.
NFL players don't get these terms, apart from generational talents. Rugby players don't these terms, apart from generational talents. Actually nobody on earth gets these terms... apart from footballers.
Defending the right for a lazy, mediocre footballer to be guaranteed millions of pounds per year, honestly, if you think about it, is both vile and a sidestep from reality. Comparing the reality of the Everyman to it, and doing so with conviction? You're off your rocker.
Jimmy Hill won the right for footballers to have a guaranteed wage back in the early 60s I think. Back then footballers did have the wage of an average joe. Obviously footballers wages have gone up a lot more than the average joe but they are still guaranteed.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2025, 11:21:47 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 20, 2025, 11:40:15 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 20, 2025, 05:05:19 PMHow and why the majority of footballer's pay packets aren't incentive based, I've no idea. Surely this change is inevitable.
Imagine in any other walk of life guaranteeing a man's salary regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Any club who tried to implement such a policy would immediately lose everyone of their top players. It's not like clubs income is incentive-based, it's fairly predictable (match-day revenue, advertising, tv rights), so why would players expect their income to vary widely based on the teams performance?
Pretty much all of us, expect the self-employed, are on fixed salaries so your last sentence is just nonsense. Do you know a single employee who is on a salary where the majority is incentive-based?
Okay I'll put some more meat on this. Imagine being guaranteed a salary for a set duration, that is a multiple multiple (deliberately twice) of the average income, regardless of effort, conviction or interest.
Average Joe doesn't get these terms.
NFL players don't get these terms, apart from generational talents. Rugby players don't these terms, apart from generational talents. Actually nobody on earth gets these terms... apart from footballers.
Defending the right for a lazy, mediocre footballer to be guaranteed millions of pounds per year, honestly, if you think about it, is both vile and a sidestep from reality. Comparing the reality of the Everyman to it, and doing so with conviction? You're off your rocker.
Footballers do have incentive based deals. Salahs old deal was heavily incentive based to the point he was earning 300k plus because of his bonuses
Two horse race now.
Half time ManCity 0. Spurs 2.....
Quote from: Dire Ear on August 23, 2025, 01:38:01 PMHalf time ManCity 0. Spurs 2.....
Man City in transition. Liverpool will walz the league again.
Wouldn't be surprised if Spurs shat the bed again today..
Is Trafford really that good?
One of the odd things going back a dozen Spurs managers, and billions of financial fraud by City, is that Spurs always play well against City.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 23, 2025, 01:59:03 PMIs Trafford really that good?
Well they are buying another keeper.
P45 for Amiron. Another relegation battle for Manchester United ;D ;D
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 24, 2025, 06:16:59 PMP45 for Amiron. Another relegation battle for Manchester United ;D ;D
Nonsense. Sure they're only a Goalkeeper away from being contenders...
Sky Sport doing best hype the game. Hardly a rivalary when Newcastle haven't Liverpool in 17 league games.
Liverpool will win at ease. Newcastle have no striker in Isak absence. Peggy Gordon is all fart and no shite..
Van Dyke trying to referee the game.
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 25, 2025, 08:20:46 PMVan Dyke trying to referee the game.
Or maybe team captain speaks to referee regarding a decision, as Bruno Guamires has many times also.
Game over
Have that you absolute slabbers. That's why we're champions.
Red card for Peggy Gordon ;D ;D
Shocking tackle from Gordon. Ran 15m to do it too and absolutely didn't need to fo anywhere near him.
Good process by VAR and right call in the end. Its challenges like that that can end a players season. Tube.
I'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
He literally puts his studs down the back of his shin/achilles. Of course it could have been serious. Gordon himself was over checking VVDs leg after it to make sure he was OK. He knew he got carried away. All of Newcastle have lost the heads, presumably over the Isak saga. And its cost them.
Played the referee well. Rolling around in agony and up putting Gordon when sent off.
Will be a right hammering for Newcastle.
Isak signing for Liverpool for next week.
Put 50 on Liverpool at 23/10 before game. Handy mhuala
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 25, 2025, 09:13:37 PMPut 50 on Liverpool at 23/10 before game. Handy mhuala
how'd that work out.....
QuoteQuotePut 50 on Liverpool at 23/10 before game. Handy mhuala
how'd that work out.....
I hope for his sake it was only 50p
2-0 early payout if it was 365...
Looks good.. I did 3-3 at 40/1!
Quote from: AustinPowers on August 25, 2025, 09:56:17 PMQuoteQuotePut 50 on Liverpool at 23/10 before game. Handy mhuala
how'd that work out.....
I hope for his sake it was only 50p
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Liverpool name is on title
Mighty win
Mentality Monsters ;D
Quote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
He raked his studs down the standing leg of VVD, your suggestion that it should only be a red card if he actually injures VVD is ridiculous.
Lovely stuff.
Win nothing with kids....
Quote from: trileacman on August 25, 2025, 10:06:25 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
He raked his studs down the standing leg of VVD, your suggestion that it should only be a red card if he actually injures VVD is ridiculous.
My suggestion is that before VAR and fifty frames per second of making every tackle look like an assault, then it would have been a yellow card, because the referee would have judged intent on the spot.
Football actually was a better game when people could tackle.
That was a decent sweat!
Just desserts. That was pure time wasting from Schar and Joelinton. 10 minutes of nonsense to get added time.
Cringe stuff from Liverpool. They haven't played well since PSG gave them the runaround. Fighting on muscle memory at this stage.
Slot won't last long there.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2025, 10:11:46 PMJust desserts. That was pure time wasting from Schar and Joelinton. 10 minutes of nonsense to get added time.
They did similar a few seasons ago when Carvalho scored a late winner.
This was as sweet as that TBF.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut 50 on Liverpool at 23/10 before game. Handy mhuala
how'd that work out.....
I hope for his sake it was only 50p
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
New pair of shoes for Mrs Dun Eile so ;)
Quote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 10:09:10 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 25, 2025, 10:06:25 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
He raked his studs down the standing leg of VVD, your suggestion that it should only be a red card if he actually injures VVD is ridiculous.
My suggestion is that before VAR and fifty frames per second of making every tackle look like an assault, then it would have been a yellow card, because the referee would have judged intent on the spot.
Football actually was a better game when people could tackle.
Lunging with both feet at the standing leg of a player when the ball is long gone is not tackling. It's an attempt to injure opponents.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 25, 2025, 10:14:09 PMCringe stuff from Liverpool. They haven't played well since PSG gave them the runaround. Fighting on muscle memory at this stage.
Slot won't last long there.
Aye he'll be sacked in the morning. Man is a complete flop. Terrible manager.
Strange match. That's a very middlin Newcastle team and Liverpool found it hard to put them away.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 25, 2025, 10:14:09 PMCringe stuff from Liverpool. They haven't played well since PSG gave them the runaround. Fighting on muscle memory at this stage.
Slot won't last long there.
Triggered 😁😁
Quote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
Take it you didn't see the pic of Van Dijk's calf
Quote from: gawa316 on August 25, 2025, 11:08:55 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
Take it you didn't see the pic of Van Dijk's calf
It's not possible to have a progressive discussion about tackling and intent, once tribal loyalties get involved.
Same people describing this as a horror tackle will have told us a few times over the years when VDV handed it out, that it's a man's game.
It's not a Liverpool thing by the way. There's plenty of Keane acolytes would tell you that Haaland deserved that challenge.
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I prefer football when tackling is a part of the game. Fifty frames per second makes everything look like assault, when it's not.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 11:32:24 PMQuote from: gawa316 on August 25, 2025, 11:08:55 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
Take it you didn't see the pic of Van Dijk's calf
It's not possible to have a progressive discussion about tackling and intent, once tribal loyalties get involved.
Same people describing this as a horror tackle will have told us a few times over the years when VDV handed it out, that it's a man's game.
It's not a Liverpool thing by the way. There's plenty of Keane acolytes would tell you that Haaland deserved that challenge.
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I prefer football when tackling is a part of the game. Fifty frames per second makes everything look like assault, when it's not.
You said he got his toe stood on ffs
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2025, 11:44:57 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzOQtXDWkAAbJ_f.jpg:small)
He'll have a sore toe tomorrow
Why haven't Newcastle bought a striker this summer? They lost Wilson already and should have replaced him by now. Isak is another story entirely. If he leaves Newcastle will need 2 strikers.
Newcastle put everything into that last night as if it was a Cup final all because of this Isak saga and ended up with a sending off and losing players to injuries and zero points.
Liverpool winning goal was superb, not quite up there with Barnes-Rush-Barnes-Collymore closing in.. Kevin Keegan hangs his head!.. but it was almost as sweet!
Liverpool not playing well but still that's 2 from 2.
Quote from: Capt Pat on August 26, 2025, 01:21:16 AMWhy haven't Newcastle bought a striker this summer? They lost Wilson already and should have replaced him by now. Isak is another story entirely. If he leaves Newcastle will need 2 strikers.
Well it looks like they were in for nearly every striker going, but they all decided to go elsewhere
Quote from: Capt Pat on August 26, 2025, 01:21:16 AMWhy haven't Newcastle bought a striker this summer? They lost Wilson already and should have replaced him by now. Isak is another story entirely. If he leaves Newcastle will need 2 strikers.
Because the Newcastle hierarchy are handless heures in the transfer market and have fluffed every transfer target this summer. Ekitike, Sesko, Wissa (might still happen).
Quote from: Bogman on August 26, 2025, 06:59:39 AMNewcastle put everything into that last night as if it was a Cup final
They beat you already this year in your cup final at Wembley. It launched the Slot Slump that has been ongoing since last March.
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 26, 2025, 08:51:08 AMQuote from: Bogman on August 26, 2025, 06:59:39 AMNewcastle put everything into that last night as if it was a Cup final
They beat you already this year in your cup final at Wembley. It launched the Slot Slump that has been ongoing since last March.
Liverpool scoring a last minute winner has really triggered you 😂
Triggered? I'm enjoying the delusion of people who refuse to see how much their team is faltering ;D
Dag Dog is The Stallion reborn!
Great result, poor performance. Bullied all over the place but was always going to be that with the Newcastle dogs of war revved up by the rabid fans, buying into the whole shit of 'disrespect' around the Isak situation.
Red card was as clear a red card as you'll see, ran like a lunatic to challenge Allison, then like a lunatic after VVD and then lunged. Was an ankle breaker if ever I saw one and not a step on the toe like Wobbler is suggesting, studs the whole way down his calf and ripped a hole in his sock...yeah not intent there!
Quote from: Capt Pat on August 26, 2025, 01:21:16 AMWhy haven't Newcastle bought a striker this summer? They lost Wilson already and should have replaced him by now. Isak is another story entirely. If he leaves Newcastle will need 2 strikers.
They've tried and failed to buy at least 4 strikers. Sesko, Wissa, Nkieteke, Larseen (easily the worst CF in the PL). Clubs now know they're desperate and are prepared to play hardball. They've fucked themselves by a) not selling Isak earlier and given themselves time to source a replacement and b) not signing a cheap option from Europe to tide themsleves over in the meantime.
It's shocking work by the management and board at Newcastle to not source at least 1 replacement by now. They've known for at least 12 months that Wilson's contract was up and they'd no intention of renewing it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2025, 11:44:57 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzOQtXDWkAAbJ_f.jpg:small)
Careful now, you're interrupting Professor Wobbler's "progressive discussion about tackling and intent".
Quote from: trileacman on August 26, 2025, 12:59:04 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2025, 11:44:57 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzOQtXDWkAAbJ_f.jpg:small)
Careful now, you're interrupting Professor Wobbler's "progressive discussion about tackling and intent".
He'll be out for six months with that horror scrape
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2025, 01:09:25 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 26, 2025, 12:59:04 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2025, 11:44:57 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzOQtXDWkAAbJ_f.jpg:small)
Careful now, you're interrupting Professor Wobbler's "progressive discussion about tackling and intent".
He'll be out for six months with that horror scrape
You should see the shape of his toe.
Quote from: trileacman on August 26, 2025, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2025, 01:09:25 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 26, 2025, 12:59:04 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2025, 11:44:57 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzOQtXDWkAAbJ_f.jpg:small)
Careful now, you're interrupting Professor Wobbler's "progressive discussion about tackling and intent".
He'll be out for six months with that horror scrape
You should see the shape of his toe.
6 foot 10 and the man is made of snow!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2025, 01:22:53 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 26, 2025, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2025, 01:09:25 PMQuote from: trileacman on August 26, 2025, 12:59:04 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2025, 11:44:57 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzOQtXDWkAAbJ_f.jpg:small)
Careful now, you're interrupting Professor Wobbler's "progressive discussion about tackling and intent".
He'll be out for six months with that horror scrape
You should see the shape of his toe.
6 foot 10 and the man is made of snow!
Saw that at the time and if that happened in a juvenile hurling game you'd be telling the kid to jump up and run on, "never show the hoors that they hurt you!"
Not sure what Floppy Gordon thought he was doing though.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 26, 2025, 01:33:50 PMSaw that at the time and if that happened in a juvenile hurling game you'd be telling the kid to jump up and run on, "never show the hoors that they hurt you!"
Not sure what Floppy Gordon thought he was doing though.
Pretending you are not hurt encourages more dirty play.
It's one thing getting up after a hard shoulder and pretending it meant nothing. It's another getting a dirty kick.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2025, 01:43:17 PMQuote from: johnnycool on August 26, 2025, 01:33:50 PMSaw that at the time and if that happened in a juvenile hurling game you'd be telling the kid to jump up and run on, "never show the hoors that they hurt you!"
Not sure what Floppy Gordon thought he was doing though.
Pretending you are not hurt encourages more dirty play.
It's one thing getting up after a hard shoulder and pretending it meant nothing. It's another getting a dirty kick.
It's soccer. They all wear shinguards for a reason. Bangs and scrapes around the lower leg are inevitable.
Anyway one last time. The ref was in eyeline and earshot of the tackle. He was close enough judge whether Gordon left it in or tried not to. These were always yellow card tackles since football clamped down on tackles from behind. But 50 frames per second replays, which focus on the final contact rather than the actions immediately beforehand by the tackler to protect (or hurt) the opponent, they always hang the tackler.
The contact from Gravenberch's earlier tackle wouldn't, I expect, look much dissimilar if shown at 50 fps.
Neither is a red card for me. But then again I despise VAR. Same way the internet was meant to make us more informed, but has only made us more polarised, VAR hasn't made the game more fairly or accurately arbitrated, it's just placed another layer of subjectivity on the game.
You seem to be mixing up frames per second and frame speed.
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Careful now, you're interrupting Professor Wobbler's "progressive discussion about tackling and intent".
He'll be out for six months with that horror scrape
You should see the shape of his toe.
6 foot 10 and the man is made of snow!
Saw that at the time and if that happened in a juvenile hurling game you'd be telling the kid to jump up and run on, "never show the hoors that they hurt you!"
Not sure what Floppy Gordon thought he was doing though.
GAA are further behind the player welfare journey than soccer, but they are slowly getting there.
No fan of Anthony Gordon or Van Dijk but jesussss it was a clear red card, can't understand how anyone could argue otherwise, Gordon certainly didn't.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 25, 2025, 08:56:07 PMI'd agree it was an absolutely pointless and daft tackle by Gordon.
But the outcome was that Virgil got his toe stood on, and that was only the case because Gordon wasn't actually out to do him. If he wanted to hurt him, it would have happened.
Season ending challenge my arse.
Are you ok?
Clear red. Very lucky not to inflict a very bad injury there. Gordon was pumped up just before that running like crazy to close down anyone within 20 yards of him. He was intent on leaving one on somebody. He may well have felt a bit encouraged by the ref letting Burn off with one on Salah just before that.
Not a good week for VAR. Time to bin. Football is boring enough to watch anyway.
The outcomes still favour high profile teams.
The decisions against Fulham today would never happen to Liverpool,Arsenal or Man City.
Howard Webb needed a VAR error to make his first Mic'd show of the season better viewing.
Quote from: Dun Eile on August 30, 2025, 05:35:00 PMNot a good week for VAR. Time to bin. Football is boring enough to watch anyway.
The outcomes still favour high profile teams.
The decisions against Fulham today would never happen to Liverpool,Arsenal or Man City.
Decisions have went against Arsenal a number of times as well as Liverpool (Ode handball stands out)
Do agree just scrap it, more harm than good - Keep technology for Offsides, Goallines and that'll do
Team selection proved everything about Arteta.. Won't win anything with him too fearful with selections again and again
Match winner on 83 minutes from a well struck free kick. Arsenal came for the draw and go home pointless, might have been a better watch/contest if they were a bit more adventurous.
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 31, 2025, 06:28:06 PMTeam selection proved everything about Arteta.. Won't win anything with him too fearful with selections again and again
Eze should have started.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2025, 06:29:01 PMMatch winner on 83 minutes from a well struck free kick. Arsenal came for the draw and go home pointless, might have been a better watch/contest if they were a bit more adventurous.
Because soccer teams play far too many games the prevailing ideology is not to do the high intensity football that Klopp made famous (and nearly always ended with his teams running out of gas) but to play a much much slower controlled game that's easy on your players and leads to less injuries over the course of a season.
It's why Arteta favours a style that is based upon control and physical strength over hard-running or pressing and why Liverpool have sold off most of their pressing forwards like Diaz and Nunez.
The consequence of playing high intensity football is plain to see from the Newcastle Liverpool game were Newcastle lost their heads and blitzed Liverpool for 40 minutes and their reward was a red card and about 4 injuries.
Subs changed the game, Curtis was very busy and pushed himself hard, won the free that Sobo scored. Chiesa fights hard and presses, certainly not a lazy player and put Arsenal under pressure when they had loads of possession in the last 10.
Gomez never put a foot wrong and Endo worked very well as a closer/spoiler.
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 31, 2025, 06:30:35 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 31, 2025, 06:28:06 PMTeam selection proved everything about Arteta.. Won't win anything with him too fearful with selections again and again
Eze should have started.
Eze and Nwaneri if Odegaard wasn't fit too start. Arteta too scarred from being dicked at Anfield everytime he played there why he's parks the bus.
I think if we fall short yet again and don't win more of these big games, Board will be on the look out next summer for a manager
Arsenal don't have the cojones to go win big games.
So said Troy Deeney who has the IQ of a ham sandwich 🥪
Quote from: jcpen on August 31, 2025, 08:26:26 PMArsenal don't have the cojones to go win big games.
Nor the minerals.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 31, 2025, 10:13:05 PMQuote from: jcpen on August 31, 2025, 08:26:26 PMArsenal don't have the cojones to go win big games.
Nor the minerals.
Arsenal have won the league 13 times, they ain't defined by not winning big games. Stupid then there are stupid comments like these
Rooney a hard watch.
Free kick on par with the 2 Rice shanked against Madrid, unsaveable, was a decent watch, very evenly matched
Good to see City humbled, fvck them and the oil they rode in on
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2025, 10:49:24 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 31, 2025, 10:13:05 PMQuote from: jcpen on August 31, 2025, 08:26:26 PMArsenal don't have the cojones to go win big games.
Nor the minerals.
Arsenal have won the league 13 times, they ain't defined by not winning big games. Stupid then there are stupid comments like these
Arsenal brought a sub on today who was born 6 years after Arsenals last title. They are not the same team.
Quote from: ONeill on August 31, 2025, 10:53:12 PMRooney a hard watch.
I get he's an English legend but jees talking isn't a strong point. I can see why management hasn't gone well
Saw the City game. Looked great early doors under no pressure and should have been comfortably ahead but once Brighton equalized they were all over them. Very surprised at the lack of work rate in City midfield. As soon as they were turned over they made no effort to get back and just let their defence be over run. Stones was going ballistic. Rodri played full game but maybe ran out of steam. Can see them dropping plenty of points on that evidence.
Arsenal look solid but early injuries a worrying trend they'll want to buck. But with a full squad a serious outfit although Gyokeres showed little on his first big test. Maybe a reflection on overall team ambition in match though.
Liverpool have done some transfer business if they can get it all to click. Serious knack of digging out a win too.
All very early yet but looks like there'll be some struggle at the bottom. That's not going to form at all. New cannon fodder not the cannon fodder.
Was there any Newcastle's fans outside SJP today calling Wissa a rat?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2025, 10:49:24 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on August 31, 2025, 10:13:05 PMQuote from: jcpen on August 31, 2025, 08:26:26 PMArsenal don't have the cojones to go win big games.
Nor the minerals.
Arsenal have won the league 13 times, they ain't defined by not winning big games. Stupid then there are stupid comments like these
Long time since won the big trophies. The Galway of Premier Division. Dump the bed when play the big boys.
Delighted to see PJ given another year at the helm in fairness, Mayo will overtake them and his stint will be done
Was thinking earlier about how this Liverpool team remind me a lot of United under Fergie. For years they'd buy a lot of the exceptional talent at other PL clubs. Liverpool following suit and tbf its a proven, winning formula.
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 02, 2025, 11:09:41 PMWas thinking earlier about how this Liverpool team remind me a lot of United under Fergie. For years they'd buy a lot of the exceptional talent at other PL clubs. Liverpool following suit and tbf its a proven, winning formula.
Nail on the head, nothing like cutting the legs off opponents by pilfering their prize assets, Utd signed some in their prime (Yorke) and some shrewd experienced players (Sheringham)
Some clubs are obsessed with imports for the sake of imports while ignoring whats already in the league
It really baffles me that Nzonzi transferred from Blackburn to Stoke, bypassing Utd Liverpool City Everton who all needed that type of player, or how they all missed Wharton, again at Blackburn
Liverpool been a lot cuter than most in recent years in the domestic market
If Gary Neville is to be believed apparently he told Utd scouts David Raya looked good enough and they shot him down, goes to show the experts haven't a clue half the time either
Moyes taking Fellaini to Utd instead of Seamus Coleman was criminal, was obvious from that decision alone that he wasn't up to the job
Quote from: tiempo on September 03, 2025, 10:29:46 AMQuote from: SaffronSports on September 02, 2025, 11:09:41 PMWas thinking earlier about how this Liverpool team remind me a lot of United under Fergie. For years they'd buy a lot of the exceptional talent at other PL clubs. Liverpool following suit and tbf its a proven, winning formula.
Nail on the head, nothing like cutting the legs off opponents by pilfering their prize assets, Utd signed some in their prime (Yorke) and some shrewd experienced players (Sheringham)
Some clubs are obsessed with imports for the sake of imports while ignoring whats already in the league
It really baffles me that Nzonzi transferred from Blackburn to Stoke, bypassing Utd Liverpool City Everton who all needed that type of player, or how they all missed Wharton, again at Blackburn
Liverpool been a lot cuter than most in recent years in the domestic market
If Gary Neville is to be believed apparently he told Utd scouts David Raya looked good enough and they shot him down, goes to show the experts haven't a clue half the time either
Moyes taking Fellaini to Utd instead of Seamus Coleman was criminal, was obvious from that decision alone that he wasn't up to the job
Whilst Fergie signed PL talent for years and years (Van P, Rooney, Ferdinand, Van der Sarr) I feel like this is the first time modern Liverpool have done so. Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez, Salah, Firmino were all imports as was Sobo, Konate, Gravenberch, Endo and Allison.
Quote from: trileacman on September 03, 2025, 10:51:28 AMQuote from: tiempo on September 03, 2025, 10:29:46 AMQuote from: SaffronSports on September 02, 2025, 11:09:41 PMWas thinking earlier about how this Liverpool team remind me a lot of United under Fergie. For years they'd buy a lot of the exceptional talent at other PL clubs. Liverpool following suit and tbf its a proven, winning formula.
Nail on the head, nothing like cutting the legs off opponents by pilfering their prize assets, Utd signed some in their prime (Yorke) and some shrewd experienced players (Sheringham)
Some clubs are obsessed with imports for the sake of imports while ignoring whats already in the league
It really baffles me that Nzonzi transferred from Blackburn to Stoke, bypassing Utd Liverpool City Everton who all needed that type of player, or how they all missed Wharton, again at Blackburn
Liverpool been a lot cuter than most in recent years in the domestic market
If Gary Neville is to be believed apparently he told Utd scouts David Raya looked good enough and they shot him down, goes to show the experts haven't a clue half the time either
Moyes taking Fellaini to Utd instead of Seamus Coleman was criminal, was obvious from that decision alone that he wasn't up to the job
Whilst Fergie signed PL talent for years and years (Van P, Rooney, Ferdinand, Van der Sarr) I feel like this is the first time modern Liverpool have done so. Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez, Salah, Firmino were all imports as was Sobo, Konate, Gravenberch, Endo and Allison.
There seems to be better value had buying from the Netherlands, Portugal etc on "potential" than what is on offer from the championship teams.
Uniteds new keeper is in that "potential" bracket which is a risk they seem inclined to take and really hasn't worked out well for them to date.
Liverpool have got themselves to a level that the best players want to play for them and that is why they are now shopping in Harrods and not Tesco club card offers like United.
Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaqiri, Henderson, Virgil all stand out as great domestic signings - Liverpool have got the balance just right at the moment, their best ever signing of recent times Salah both a domestic reject and an import, now thats genius, the Thierry Henry of his generation, proper profiling of available cast offs has to be a department in itself, likes to De Bruyne, Guehi and others spring to mind - basically, avoid the hype machine, look beyond a player presently being at an unfashionable club and do your due diligence
That fella who replaced Saliba on Sunday, Arsenal got for £15m from Valencia, in years to come that'll be heralded as one of the great bargains
Quote from: tiempo on September 03, 2025, 11:17:11 AMRobertson, Wijnaldum, Shaqiri, Henderson, Virgil all stand out as great domestic signings - Liverpool have got the balance just right at the moment, their best ever signing of recent times Salah both a domestic reject and an import, now thats genius, the Thierry Henry of his generation, proper profiling of available cast offs has to be a department in itself, likes to De Bruyne, Guehi and others spring to mind - basically, avoid the hype machine, look beyond a player presently being at an unfashionable club and do your due diligence
Is Eze a cast off?
Rejected by Arsenal, Fulham, Reading and Millwall, making his pro debut for QPR at 19 - fair to say he was overlooked plenty
Its strange they (far right) haven't targeted the foreign footballers during their tours of the country
Daniel Levy stepping down at Spurs
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 04, 2025, 05:58:38 PMDaniel Levy stepping down at Spurs
Spurs change of ownership possibly on the horizon
Nuno leaves Forest
Quote from: gawa316 on September 08, 2025, 11:19:41 PMNuno leaves Forest
I wonder how they will get on withput him? Will he replace Amorim at United?
Sacked, not left of his own will according to the BBC, that Forest owner seems like really hard work
"relieved"of his duties.
I hope forest fall apart now - that's a ridiculous decision.
Angeball being rumored
Quote from: Brendan on September 09, 2025, 07:32:59 AMSacked, not left of his own will according to the BBC, that Forest owner seems like really hard work
See the wee TV infront of his seat. Smashed to smithereens. Imagine dealing with that behind closed doors.
Quote from: Brendan on September 09, 2025, 07:32:59 AMSacked, not left of his own will according to the BBC, that Forest owner seems like really hard work
Best Forest manager for 30 years and treated like that. Can't imagine too many will be in rush to work under that deluded owner.
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 09, 2025, 01:08:36 PMQuote from: Brendan on September 09, 2025, 07:32:59 AMSacked, not left of his own will according to the BBC, that Forest owner seems like really hard work
Best Forest manager for 30 years and treated like that. Can't imagine too many will be in rush to work under that deluded owner.
There will be a queue around the block looking for that job regardless of the crazy owner.
Quote from: NAG1 on September 09, 2025, 01:39:08 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on September 09, 2025, 01:08:36 PMQuote from: Brendan on September 09, 2025, 07:32:59 AMSacked, not left of his own will according to the BBC, that Forest owner seems like really hard work
Best Forest manager for 30 years and treated like that. Can't imagine too many will be in rush to work under that deluded owner.
There will be a queue around the block looking for that job regardless of the crazy owner.
Mate...
Quote from: NAG1 on September 09, 2025, 01:39:08 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on September 09, 2025, 01:08:36 PMQuote from: Brendan on September 09, 2025, 07:32:59 AMSacked, not left of his own will according to the BBC, that Forest owner seems like really hard work
Best Forest manager for 30 years and treated like that. Can't imagine too many will be in rush to work under that deluded owner.
There will be a queue around the block looking for that job regardless of the crazy owner.
Yes, premier league job with decent players.
Ange it is
Quote from: lurganblue on September 09, 2025, 02:51:15 PMAnge it is
2023/24 Nottingham Forest finished 17th
First full season under Nuno Espírito Santo they finish 7th and qualify for European football for the first time in decades.
His replacement is a good mate that led Tottenham to 17th place in the Premier league last season, makes sense?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 09, 2025, 04:49:38 PMQuote from: lurganblue on September 09, 2025, 02:51:15 PMAnge it is
2023/24 Nottingham Forest finished 17th
First full season under Nuno Espírito Santo they finish 7th and qualify for European football for the first time in decades.
His replacement is a good mate that led Tottenham to 17th place in the Premier league last season, makes sense?
Its the only job in the world where you get rewarded for consistently failing.
Unfortunately it is far from it. Politicians seem to go that way plus there are plenty of exec level people who just fail across multiple companies and move to the next.
Ridiculous he got sacked.
David Coote, the premier league referee that was sacked for his comments regarding Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, has been charged with making an indecent image of a child.
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 10, 2025, 01:26:17 PMDavid Coote, the premier league referee that was sacked for his comments regarding Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, has been charged with making an indecent image of a child.
He did look a bit noncey
74 charges against Chelsea. I believe they have held the hands up for these.
Tap on the wrist or a points deduction for Everton?
Quote from: lurganblue on September 11, 2025, 12:29:23 PM74 charges against Chelsea. I believe they have held the hands up for these.
Tap on the wrist or a points deduction for Everton?
I'd say the key thing that has to be done, is to set in place sanctions that prevent them from doing this again.
Quote from: thewobbler on September 11, 2025, 03:19:46 PMQuote from: lurganblue on September 11, 2025, 12:29:23 PM74 charges against Chelsea. I believe they have held the hands up for these.
Tap on the wrist or a points deduction for Everton?
I'd say the key thing that has to be done, is to set in place sanctions that prevent them from doing this again.
And docking them points too of course.
4 games in and Liverpool with the early running. Far from convincing yet but showing that knack of nicking wins.
Arsenal looking decent. They'll need luck with injuries though. If they do falter you'd imagine it'll be the attacking side of their game that fails.
Spurs and Chelsea up there too. I'm sure Spurs are happy enough with the new man but can't see them being consistent. Chelsea look good when they're good but could drop plenty of points too.
City with a great headline win yesterday but not impressed with what I've seen of them so far. But they've got a top manager and fresh faces. Might just need a bit of time to gel.
Utd look cursed. 4 points from 12. Two of those games against top teams to give a bit of context and errors have been their undoing but next 3 games crucial before the trip to Anfield. No easy games in there but manager desperately needs points fast.
Things look grim for the bottom 3. Hard to know who'll be first manager sacked but Potter at West Ham must be sweating. Getting done like that at home to Spurs is the sort of result to turn fans. His record so far has been awful.
Quote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 11:08:55 AM4 games in and Liverpool with the early running. Far from convincing yet but showing that knack of nicking wins.
Arsenal looking decent. They'll need luck with injuries though. If they do falter you'd imagine it'll be the attacking side of their game that fails.
Spurs and Chelsea up there too. I'm sure Spurs are happy enough with the new man but can't see them being consistent. Chelsea look good when they're good but could drop plenty of points too.
City with a great headline win yesterday but not impressed with what I've seen of them so far. But they've got a top manager and fresh faces. Might just need a bit of time to gel.
Utd look cursed. 4 points from 12. Two of those games against top teams to give a bit of context and errors have been their undoing but next 3 games crucial before the trip to Anfield. No easy games in there but manager desperately needs points fast.
Things look grim for the bottom 3. Hard to know who'll be first manager sacked but Potter at West Ham must be sweating. Getting done like that at home to Spurs is the sort of result to turn fans. His record so far has been awful.
Not a goal for Villa in 4 games. Not looking good. Theyve a good side there but it isnt clicking up front at this stage. That said, a point away at Everton (considering their form) isnt a bad result.
Quote from: lurganblue on September 15, 2025, 11:26:35 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 11:08:55 AM4 games in and Liverpool with the early running. Far from convincing yet but showing that knack of nicking wins.
Arsenal looking decent. They'll need luck with injuries though. If they do falter you'd imagine it'll be the attacking side of their game that fails.
Spurs and Chelsea up there too. I'm sure Spurs are happy enough with the new man but can't see them being consistent. Chelsea look good when they're good but could drop plenty of points too.
City with a great headline win yesterday but not impressed with what I've seen of them so far. But they've got a top manager and fresh faces. Might just need a bit of time to gel.
Utd look cursed. 4 points from 12. Two of those games against top teams to give a bit of context and errors have been their undoing but next 3 games crucial before the trip to Anfield. No easy games in there but manager desperately needs points fast.
Things look grim for the bottom 3. Hard to know who'll be first manager sacked but Potter at West Ham must be sweating. Getting done like that at home to Spurs is the sort of result to turn fans. His record so far has been awful.
Not a goal for Villa in 4 games. Not looking good. Theyve a good side there but it isnt clicking up front at this stage. That said, a point away at Everton (considering their form) isnt a bad result.
The starting 11 for Villa had only 2 players signed by Emery. He's there almost 3 years now. It's all very stale.
Quote from: lurganblue on September 15, 2025, 11:26:35 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 11:08:55 AM4 games in and Liverpool with the early running. Far from convincing yet but showing that knack of nicking wins.
Arsenal looking decent. They'll need luck with injuries though. If they do falter you'd imagine it'll be the attacking side of their game that fails.
Spurs and Chelsea up there too. I'm sure Spurs are happy enough with the new man but can't see them being consistent. Chelsea look good when they're good but could drop plenty of points too.
City with a great headline win yesterday but not impressed with what I've seen of them so far. But they've got a top manager and fresh faces. Might just need a bit of time to gel.
Utd look cursed. 4 points from 12. Two of those games against top teams to give a bit of context and errors have been their undoing but next 3 games crucial before the trip to Anfield. No easy games in there but manager desperately needs points fast.
Things look grim for the bottom 3. Hard to know who'll be first manager sacked but Potter at West Ham must be sweating. Getting done like that at home to Spurs is the sort of result to turn fans. His record so far has been awful.
Not a goal for Villa in 4 games. Not looking good. Theyve a good side there but it isnt clicking up front at this stage. That said, a point away at Everton (considering their form) isnt a bad result.
Not good but they may click yet. When/If they do they're defensively sound and the manager has a huge amount of credit in the kitty.
Wolves manager done a great job last season and has been hamstrung with squad departures. A little unlucky not to pick up a point or two.
West Ham have been plain awful bar a win against a team whose manager had publicly checked out. Poor last season too. Can't see how he'll turn it around.
You would expect Potter to get the road. Hard to fathom how Amorim isn't either but it's between the two.
That Bournemouth manager seems a decent one. I was reading there about this 18 year old they signed from Belgrade (Red Star I think) for 13 million and how good he was. They have picked up a few great players last few years.
Quote from: shark on September 15, 2025, 11:41:48 AMQuote from: lurganblue on September 15, 2025, 11:26:35 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 11:08:55 AM4 games in and Liverpool with the early running. Far from convincing yet but showing that knack of nicking wins.
Arsenal looking decent. They'll need luck with injuries though. If they do falter you'd imagine it'll be the attacking side of their game that fails.
Spurs and Chelsea up there too. I'm sure Spurs are happy enough with the new man but can't see them being consistent. Chelsea look good when they're good but could drop plenty of points too.
City with a great headline win yesterday but not impressed with what I've seen of them so far. But they've got a top manager and fresh faces. Might just need a bit of time to gel.
Utd look cursed. 4 points from 12. Two of those games against top teams to give a bit of context and errors have been their undoing but next 3 games crucial before the trip to Anfield. No easy games in there but manager desperately needs points fast.
Things look grim for the bottom 3. Hard to know who'll be first manager sacked but Potter at West Ham must be sweating. Getting done like that at home to Spurs is the sort of result to turn fans. His record so far has been awful.
Not a goal for Villa in 4 games. Not looking good. Theyve a good side there but it isnt clicking up front at this stage. That said, a point away at Everton (considering their form) isnt a bad result.
The starting 11 for Villa had only 2 players signed by Emery. He's there almost 3 years now. It's all very stale.
But yet 8 subs that he did sign. Agreed though. Very stale.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2025, 12:05:49 PMYou would expect Potter to get the road. Hard to fathom how Amorim isn't either but it's between the two.
That Bournemouth manager seems a decent one. I was reading there about this 18 year old they signed from Belgrade (Red Star I think) for 13 million and how good he was. They have picked up a few great players last few years.
United can't afford to sack him to be honest, at some point you have to stick with a manager. Still a fair bit of clearing out to do.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2025, 12:05:49 PMYou would expect Potter to get the road. Hard to fathom how Amorim isn't either but it's between the two.
That Bournemouth manager seems a decent one. I was reading there about this 18 year old they signed from Belgrade (Red Star I think) for 13 million and how good he was. They have picked up a few great players last few years.
Great shout on Bournemouth manager. Some job he is doing. Record best first season, followed it up last year with an even better one and off to a great start this year. If he keeps it up will be headhunted very soon by the big boys.
Not saying Amorim deserves more time but club have no choice but to give him more time. In his defense Arsenal and City are always losable. They looked decent against Arsenal. While poor against City, they made stupid mistakes and Donnarumma was terrific. Coming up Brentford and Sunderland could be the games that do him before the trip to Anfield. They look shaky at best against average teams. Think his refusal to adapt in different games is a poor trait in a top manager and probably marks him out as out of his depth. In PL opposition teams catch on quick and if you have only one way to play you are on a hiding to nothing. So he's on borrowed time. Doesn't look like he'll change his way either. I've even heard some say he's daring to be sacked the way he's talking.
Quote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 12:58:36 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2025, 12:05:49 PMYou would expect Potter to get the road. Hard to fathom how Amorim isn't either but it's between the two.
That Bournemouth manager seems a decent one. I was reading there about this 18 year old they signed from Belgrade (Red Star I think) for 13 million and how good he was. They have picked up a few great players last few years.
Great shout on Bournemouth manager. Some job he is doing. Record best first season, followed it up last year with an even better one and off to a great start this year. If he keeps it up will be headhunted very soon by the big boys.
Not saying Amorim deserves more time but club have no choice but to give him more time. In his defense Arsenal and City are always losable. They looked decent against Arsenal. While poor against City, they made stupid mistakes and Donnarumma was terrific. Coming up Brentford and Sunderland could be the games that do him before the trip to Anfield. They look shaky at best against average teams. Think his refusal to adapt in different games is a poor trait in a top manager and probably marks him out as out of his depth. In PL opposition teams catch on quick and if you have only one way to play you are on a hiding to nothing. So he's on borrowed time. Doesn't look like he'll change his way either. I've even heard some say he's daring to be sacked the way he's talking.
Last season under Ruben Amorim they drew with Arsenal in Old Trafford and beat Man City away, losing to both and getting knocked out of cup by a 4th tier league team has showed they have gone backwards after a big summer spend.
Quote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 12:58:36 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2025, 12:05:49 PMYou would expect Potter to get the road. Hard to fathom how Amorim isn't either but it's between the two.
That Bournemouth manager seems a decent one. I was reading there about this 18 year old they signed from Belgrade (Red Star I think) for 13 million and how good he was. They have picked up a few great players last few years.
Great shout on Bournemouth manager. Some job he is doing. Record best first season, followed it up last year with an even better one and off to a great start this year. If he keeps it up will be headhunted very soon by the big boys.
Not saying Amorim deserves more time but club have no choice but to give him more time. In his defense Arsenal and City are always losable. They looked decent against Arsenal. While poor against City, they made stupid mistakes and Donnarumma was terrific. Coming up Brentford and Sunderland could be the games that do him before the trip to Anfield. They look shaky at best against average teams. Think his refusal to adapt in different games is a poor trait in a top manager and probably marks him out as out of his depth. In PL opposition teams catch on quick and if you have only one way to play you are on a hiding to nothing. So he's on borrowed time. Doesn't look like he'll change his way either. I've even heard some say he's daring to be sacked the way he's talking.
Yeah his stubbornness is going to be the downfall (apart from the useless players and board he's stuck with) Ferguson would have changed tactics to suit the opposition, never been as predictable to play against.
Quote from: Look-Up! on September 15, 2025, 12:58:36 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2025, 12:05:49 PMYou would expect Potter to get the road. Hard to fathom how Amorim isn't either but it's between the two.
That Bournemouth manager seems a decent one. I was reading there about this 18 year old they signed from Belgrade (Red Star I think) for 13 million and how good he was. They have picked up a few great players last few years.
Great shout on Bournemouth manager. Some job he is doing. Record best first season, followed it up last year with an even better one and off to a great start this year. If he keeps it up will be headhunted very soon by the big boys.
Not saying Amorim deserves more time but club have no choice but to give him more time. In his defense Arsenal and City are always losable. They looked decent against Arsenal. While poor against City, they made stupid mistakes and Donnarumma was terrific. Coming up Brentford and Sunderland could be the games that do him before the trip to Anfield. They look shaky at best against average teams. Think his refusal to adapt in different games is a poor trait in a top manager and probably marks him out as out of his depth. In PL opposition teams catch on quick and if you have only one way to play you are on a hiding to nothing. So he's on borrowed time. Doesn't look like he'll change his way either. I've even heard some say he's daring to be sacked the way he's talking.
Amorin is a moron. The devotion to a 3-4-2-1 is just unforgivable. When Doku began his mazy run for the first goal there were 4 players marking Haaland. Not only is his system the only tactic he has he's also shite at setting it up.
An average City side made hay because the holes in Utds defence were so easy for a sharp manager like Pep to identify.
League over already. Arsenal and Chelsea shit their togs . Man Citeh on transition.
Quote from: Dun Eile on September 20, 2025, 06:13:50 PMLeague over already. Arsenal and Chelsea shit their togs . Man Citeh on transition.
You're big into shitting and togs.
Good win for Leeds. Needed to kick Wolves when they were down and got the points with three new signings all scoring their first Leeds goals.
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 21, 2025, 01:15:58 AMGood win for Leeds. Needed to kick Wolves when they were down and got the points with three new signings all scoring their first Leeds goals.
Big 3 points. Hammers with more derby day misery. Away to Everton and Arsenal next. Potter be very lucky to still have a job after next international break.
Villa with a crunch match today too away to one of the new boys. But Sunderland keeper looks very good and their defense looks solid enough so no foregone conclusion by any stretch that they'll break their scoring duck.
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Aston Villa ended their goal brought today but still a poor result to draw against Sunderland who had 10 men for an hour.
Jeez city have fairly regressed. 33% possession, 5 touches in arsenal's box, don't know how many defenders they had on at the end
What a tonic that Arsenal City game was.
Haven't had a sleep like that in a very long time.
Rashford dropped for Barcelona game for arriving late to training, maybe he hasn't changed
Arsenal Ben White the bed again.
Long balls and teams playing for set pieces. Teams looked down their noses at this for years when Stoke and Wimbledon done it, now top teams at it.
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 21, 2025, 03:59:43 PMAston Villa ended their goal brought today but still a poor result to draw against Sunderland who had 10 men for an hour.
Brutal. And the Sunderland goal was a total shambles. No desire from about 6 players to compete for a header. Serious problems at Villa.
That said, a total shocker of a miss from Watkins at the end to seal the win.
For the life of me I cannot understand why Emery doesnt start Elliot here. Sancho too in fairness. What he has been doing in an attacking sense isnt working.
West Ham sack Graham Potter. Former Forest manager Nuno Espirito Santo to replace him.
I have a feeling that Ruben Amorim is trying to get the sack at Man Utd. Nobody can be doing what he does week in - week out and expect to stay. He wants out and the big pay off.
Agree 100%, gone by Halloween, what a calamity
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 02:22:44 PMI have a feeling that Ruben Amorim is trying to get the sack at Man Utd. Nobody can be doing what he does week in - week out and expect to stay. He wants out and the big pay off.
Today is their 17th defeat in 33 Premier League games under him not sure about wanting out he's simply struggling big time with the step up from the Portuguese league.
Graham Potters just become available. Could be good timing
Good man Caoimhin!
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 27, 2025, 02:33:03 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on September 27, 2025, 02:22:44 PMI have a feeling that Ruben Amorim is trying to get the sack at Man Utd. Nobody can be doing what he does week in - week out and expect to stay. He wants out and the big pay off.
Today is their 17th defeat in 33 Premier League games under him not sure about wanting out he's simply struggling big time with the step up from the Portuguese league.
He's causing himself to struggle.. That United team are set up for a 433 or 4231 and he refuses to change from his system which clearly doesn't work.
Which is great for us non-United fans
3/1 Liverpool win... they have so much possession just not getting the breaks
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2025, 03:55:29 PM3/1 Liverpool win... they have so much possession just not getting the breaks
Got the breaks with Palace wasting some big goal scoring chances. Those odds tempting as Liverpool sure improve 2nd half.
Liverpool might go invincible this season.. Ffs another late goal
Deserved that
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 27, 2025, 04:54:58 PMLiverpool might go invincible this season.. Ffs another late goal
Well I've never been as glad to be wrong
Mentally monstering by Palace
Am I biased or is that not a blatant pen
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 28, 2025, 04:49:26 PMAm I biased or is that not a blatant pen
The joys of a Liverpool fan as ref.
Gabriel is a complete dose of dung
Not a good weekend with some of the decision making by VAR.
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 28, 2025, 06:23:53 PMNot a good weekend with some of the decision making by VAR.
you could just copy and paste that every week
Is anyone else slowly getting turned off from soccer with all the VAR nonsense and added time at end of each half. Goals are scored and you automatically think wait a minute that could overrule that. Its gone very stale.
Quote from: snoopdog on September 29, 2025, 10:54:58 AMIs anyone else slowly getting turned off from soccer with all the VAR nonsense and added time at end of each half. Goals are scored and you automatically think wait a minute that could overrule that. Its gone very stale.
I've been tuning out more and more over the past decade. The lack of physicality permitted in the game means almost every team plays "low block" football, and the better teams play "low block, ball retention" football. I can't gain much enjoyment from either variation.
But I'd agree, VAR really hasn't helped the situation. I fully appreciate the importance of each score in soccer. Hence when there's a goal, it should be met with a spontaneous eruption of happiness. And that has been been severely muted over the past few seasons. Throw in the fact (well, my opinion) that VAR officials almost never rule against clubs that might compete for the title - for fear of the back lash - and it's just short and simple, a load of contrived shite.
Quote from: snoopdog on September 29, 2025, 10:54:58 AMIs anyone else slowly getting turned off from soccer with all the VAR nonsense and added time at end of each half. Goals are scored and you automatically think wait a minute that could overrule that. Its gone very stale.
There is a serious stench of foul play coming from within the PGMOL itself, very off-putting
How they have got VAR so badly wrong is absolutely bizarre. In a fast paced contact sport such as football you will always have fouls and offside decisions that are 50/50 calls (or even 60/40 ones). If you slow teh game down to address all of these you spoil the game itself. Calling refs over to watch a pitch side monitor is a farce and unfair to the ref imo.
It was meant to be brought in to capture the CLEAR AND OBVIOUS errors that the officials have missed. If it takes 5 relays slowed down to the nth degree then it aint clear and bloody obvious. You would still have some contentious calls but big errors (Henry's handball for France springs to mind) get captured.
VAR should be a VAR official watching the game, he sees a reply, if it is an obvious mistake he intervenes and does not ask the ref for his opinion or a discussion he makes the call. Everyone would be happy with that.
Quote from: snoopdog on September 29, 2025, 10:54:58 AMIs anyone else slowly getting turned off from soccer with all the VAR nonsense and added time at end of each half. Goals are scored and you automatically think wait a minute that could overrule that. Its gone very stale.
Yep. I rarely watch the game now. Still watch MOTD but would only watch the odd live game when the kids are watching it. The rugby union TMO system is not perfect but rarely seems to have the same level of controversy as VAR.
Quote from: lurganblue on September 09, 2025, 02:51:15 PMAnge it is
Six games two draws and 4 defeats so far as Nottingham Forest manager.
Tonight beaten at home by Midjylland and Forest fans were chanting "Sacked in the morning"
Owner has got rid of a popular manager and the supporters haven't taken to his hand picked replacement at all.
Bournemouth look very impressive. Semenyo bit of a unit and if he keeps this up, like his manager, will be on the radar of the big boys very soon.
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 03, 2025, 10:14:28 PMBournemouth look very impressive. Semenyo bit of a unit and if he keeps this up, like his manager, will be on the radar of the big boys very soon.
Arsenal already looking at him for next summer.. However can't see that being straight forward as I suspect Liverpool will also have an interest given Salahs struggles
Quote from: Mourne Red on October 03, 2025, 10:25:01 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on October 03, 2025, 10:14:28 PMBournemouth look very impressive. Semenyo bit of a unit and if he keeps this up, like his manager, will be on the radar of the big boys very soon.
Arsenal already looking at him for next summer.. However can't see that being straight forward as I suspect Liverpool will also have an interest given Salahs struggles
Hope Liverpool will be all over that deal!
Quote from: gawa316 on October 03, 2025, 10:40:27 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on October 03, 2025, 10:25:01 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on October 03, 2025, 10:14:28 PMBournemouth look very impressive. Semenyo bit of a unit and if he keeps this up, like his manager, will be on the radar of the big boys very soon.
Arsenal already looking at him for next summer.. However can't see that being straight forward as I suspect Liverpool will also have an interest given Salahs struggles
Hope Liverpool will be all over that deal!
Never underestimate the power of living in London
Players get that much money for the big teams, and given the choices of a wet Northern city to a cosmopolitan city like London is a big factor
While Liverpool are champions and City have the money, players will always factor in where they want to live.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2025, 10:59:14 PMQuote from: gawa316 on October 03, 2025, 10:40:27 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on October 03, 2025, 10:25:01 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on October 03, 2025, 10:14:28 PMBournemouth look very impressive. Semenyo bit of a unit and if he keeps this up, like his manager, will be on the radar of the big boys very soon.
Arsenal already looking at him for next summer.. However can't see that being straight forward as I suspect Liverpool will also have an interest given Salahs struggles
Hope Liverpool will be all over that deal!
Never underestimate the power of living in London
Players get that much money for the big teams, and given the choices of a wet Northern city to a cosmopolitan city like London is a big factor
While Liverpool are champions and City have the money, players will always factor in where they want to live.
Its not Monaco. High number of knife crime and gangs targeting footballers in london.
If a player has ambition they will go to where they can win trophies. Though hopefully not liverpool.
Ah, and Liverpool in crime-less ;D
Arsenal have the London factor.
Liverpool have the trophies factor.
If Liverpool win this season they will have more titles than Man Utd.
Quote from: seafoid on October 04, 2025, 11:28:24 AMIf Liverpool win this season they will have more titles than Man Utd.
Jesus seafoid, you're knocking out the bleeding obvious today!
Liverpool more titles after this season and Israel can't be trusted!
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 04, 2025, 10:43:27 AMArsenal have the London factor.
Liverpool have the trophies factor.
3rd most trophies in England btw
Top 5 top flight League titles won
1. Liverpool and Man United 20
2.Arsenal 13
3. Man City 10
4. Everton 9
5. Aston Villa 7
Top five before the Premier league in 1992
1. Liverpool 18
2. Arsenal 10
3. Everton 9
4. Man United,Aston Villa 7
5. Sunderland 6
Chelsea not on list then or now
For all wengers good teams arsenal have only one more prem than pool
*Things that make you go mmmm that's interesting
Now do European trophies.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 04, 2025, 02:45:46 PMChelsea not on list then or now
For all wengers good teams arsenal have only one more prem than pool
*Things that make you go mmmm that's interesting
Wenger like Ferguson in their latter years were paid just to keep their clubs over achieving with less investment.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 04, 2025, 02:45:46 PMChelsea not on list then or now
For all wengers good teams arsenal have only one more prem than pool
*Things that make you go mmmm that's interesting
Yeah looking back you'd think they'd more than 3
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 04, 2025, 02:45:46 PMChelsea not on list then or now
For all wengers good teams arsenal have only one more prem than pool
*Things that make you go mmmm that's interesting
Chelsea 6 league titles and 5 won in the Premier league era.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 04, 2025, 02:45:46 PMChelsea not on list then or now
For all wengers good teams arsenal have only one more prem than pool
*Things that make you go mmmm that's interesting
Arsenal have a FA Carling Premiership and 2 FA Barclays Premiership.
They have 0 Premier Leagues.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 04, 2025, 04:25:59 PMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 04, 2025, 02:45:46 PMChelsea not on list then or now
For all wengers good teams arsenal have only one more prem than pool
*Things that make you go mmmm that's interesting
Yeah looking back you'd think they'd more than 3
Arsenal won the double in 98, Utds response was a treble and 3 in a row PL
Lack of EC was an underachievement for Wenger with the squads they had, and blew a few leagues too
Such is life
Could be an old school title race this year, which hasn't happened in a very long time, with multiple teams in contention all capable of dropping points along the way.
Arsenal look the best balanced. Very strong defensively, strong midfield. Not prolific upfront (yet) so will draw plenty.
Chelsea hot and cold. Brilliant squad. Have experienced plenty of injuries, which oddly enough has forced their hands a bit on the selection front and improved them against Liverpool. But can they stay the course?
City had a tough start but look more solid this last month. Look like contenders but far from the City of old. If they can jockey position to January and strengthen Arsenal will start getting nervous. But you feel their squad is very vulnerable to injury in the meantime.
Liverpool stumbling along. Very ordinary so far. Knack of nicking goals papered over the cracks, but when the goals dry up, their problems are laid bare. They're in a very good position if they can find a spark from somewhere. Maybe even an injury or two could change things and force managers hand and help some players to step up. Should react well to the arrival of United.
The rest are also rans for the title but top 4 could be interesting. Would be nice to see someone new pip the 4 mentioned.
Tottenham?
Quote from: tiempo on October 05, 2025, 10:23:22 AMTottenham?
Good manager. If they can stay consistent, top 4 a target and try build from there.
No chance in title talk, no matter how crazy things get. The last time there was a massive offseason, they couldn't even keep the pressure on Leicester.
Man city will win it.
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2025, 11:19:13 AMMan city will win it.
Yeah, they have the best mix and have done it before.
I'd like to see Arsenal do it, spread it around a bit. Don't mind Arteta. Bit sick of City at this stage, and think/hope they're no longer capable of 10 game winning streaks in the run in. Liverpool have a fantastic group of players if Slot can get them going. Hope it's between them and gunners. As for Chelsea, please God no.
I hope Liverpool win it. They are currently in a blip and only one point behind Arsenal. They'll find their mojo again.
Quote from: seafoid on October 05, 2025, 12:06:40 PMI hope Liverpool win it. They are currently in a blip and only one point behind Arsenal. They'll find their mojo again.
They have certainly huge scope in their squad. Even a few injuries might do them no harm, force the newcomers and forge them back into a unit.
Not looking great for Rodri.. Him and Odegaard seem to be rushing back for matches and going off injured in games in quick succession
Quote from: Mourne Red on October 05, 2025, 05:46:01 PMNot looking great for Rodri.. Him and Odegaard seem to be rushing back for matches and going off injured in games in quick succession
Playing 2 games per week, week in week out will take it's toll on a lot of these teams.
Quote from: johnnycool on October 06, 2025, 08:58:58 AMQuote from: Mourne Red on October 05, 2025, 05:46:01 PMNot looking great for Rodri.. Him and Odegaard seem to be rushing back for matches and going off injured in games in quick succession
Playing 2 games per week, week in week out will take it's toll on a lot of these teams.
Absolutely
The thought crossed my mind the other day, with Arsenal having in excess of 22 internationals vying for a starting jersey, Arteta is in effect managing 2 teams. To push on 4 fronts that the crazy depth you need. Personally the League Cup and FA Cup should be stroked off to the B team and a few kids every single round, yet again Saka travelled and played against Port Vale, same as Preston last year, absolute lunacy
Quote from: tiempo on October 06, 2025, 09:06:26 AMQuote from: johnnycool on October 06, 2025, 08:58:58 AMQuote from: Mourne Red on October 05, 2025, 05:46:01 PMNot looking great for Rodri.. Him and Odegaard seem to be rushing back for matches and going off injured in games in quick succession
Playing 2 games per week, week in week out will take it's toll on a lot of these teams.
Absolutely
The thought crossed my mind the other day, with Arsenal having in excess of 22 internationals vying for a starting jersey, Arteta is in effect managing 2 teams. To push on 4 fronts that the crazy depth you need. Personally the League Cup and FA Cup should be stroked off to the B team and a few kids every single round, yet again Saka travelled and played against Port Vale, same as Preston last year, absolute lunacy
He needed minutes for match fitness.
Not a PL team anymore but anyone here follow Sheffield Utd or know what is happening with them? Look to be spiraling out of control.
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 06, 2025, 12:09:48 PMNot a PL team anymore but anyone here follow Sheffield Utd or know what is happening with them? Look to be spiraling out of control.
I'd say Wednesday are in a worse state!
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 02, 2025, 10:11:56 PMQuote from: lurganblue on September 09, 2025, 02:51:15 PMAnge it is
Six games two draws and 4 defeats so far as Nottingham Forest manager.
Tonight beaten at home by Midjylland and Forest fans were chanting "Sacked in the morning"
Owner has got rid of a popular manager and the supporters haven't taken to his hand picked replacement at all.
And to update Postecoglou sacked 20 minutes after a 3-0 home defeat against Chelsea today.
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 18, 2025, 02:49:50 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on October 02, 2025, 10:11:56 PMQuote from: lurganblue on September 09, 2025, 02:51:15 PMAnge it is
Six games two draws and 4 defeats so far as Nottingham Forest manager.
Tonight beaten at home by Midjylland and Forest fans were chanting "Sacked in the morning"
Owner has got rid of a popular manager and the supporters haven't taken to his hand picked replacement at all.
And to update Postecoglou sacked 20 minutes after a 3-0 home defeat against Chelsea today.
Trying to push on to becoming a big club, by hiring a manager who was squarely and completely found at a bigger club, well it was never going to work out.
39 days short and not so sweet for big Ange. And to think the English media was hyping him up to the hills in year one with Spurs.
Jees that's harsh all the same. The Greek guy is crazy. Makes nunos departure look an even worse decision now. Hard to see ange getting another gig in the premiership now
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2025, 03:34:36 PMJees that's harsh all the same. The Greek guy is crazy. Makes nunos departure look an even worse decision now. Hard to see ange getting another gig in the premiership now
Be madness for any club to give him a job...prob a place in Saudi for him.
Wonder how much he got since both sackings?
19mins after match ended. Straight out the car park
Probably laughing already 🤣🤣
Quote from: gawa316 on October 18, 2025, 03:52:56 PMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2025, 03:34:36 PMJees that's harsh all the same. The Greek guy is crazy. Makes nunos departure look an even worse decision now. Hard to see ange getting another gig in the premiership now
Be madness for any club to give him a job...prob a place in Saudi for him.
Wonder how much he got since both sackings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQL11dFVOc
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2025, 03:34:36 PMJees that's harsh all the same. The Greek guy is crazy. Makes nunos departure look an even worse decision now. Hard to see ange getting another gig in the premiership now
Nothing against Forest , but I hope they go down , for the clear stupidity in sacking big Nuno
The turnaround he managed in such a short time was remarkable. The owner is clearly a tool
You wonder how much it cost them for that short a space of time. Yeah two sackings in a row he will be laughing financially speaking but I doubt he'll be back in the premiership any time so if at all.
Its like an episode of Dream Team.
Ange was never going to work going in midseason. You need a summer to transform a teams style like that
Predicting 4-1 Liverpool
Perfect time to meet a middle positioned team at home
Dropping it and picking it up not a foul anymore then.
OK.
A surprise 1-0 half time lead for Man United in Anfield. Big goal scoring chances not taken by both teams in that half.
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 19, 2025, 05:12:04 PMDropping it and picking it up not a foul anymore then.
OK.
Nor are head injuries!
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 19, 2025, 05:21:22 PMA surprise 1-0 half time lead for Man United in Anfield. Big goal scoring chances not taken by both teams in that half.
Not a surprise at all, Man United always up it for Liverpool. Must be frustrating for Man United fans to see how well they can play then are so bad against the Brentford's of the league
Quote from: Bogman on October 19, 2025, 05:29:35 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on October 19, 2025, 05:21:22 PMA surprise 1-0 half time lead for Man United in Anfield. Big goal scoring chances not taken by both teams in that half.
Not a surprise at all, Man United always up it for Liverpool. Must be frustrating for Man United fans to see how well they can play then are so bad against the Brentford's of the league
A surprise it is. When was the last time Man United had a half time in Anfield without conceding?
1-1 now a surprise it's taken Liverpool until the 78th minute to score.
Big Slabhead!
What a slab
Fairly milked her too
Not surprising. An improved United vs a flaky Liverpool team.
Man United win in Anfield 2-1 few would have called that result or Maguire the match winner.
Liverpool really need to get their season back on track next week against Brentford, more tough fixtures after that with the form theyre in.
Mad to think the crying from fans about the Owners being tight and when they've finally opened their wallets its been money wasted
Pretty standard win in the end, Liverpool are dung at the minute
Quote from: Brendan on October 19, 2025, 06:32:41 PMLiverpool really need to get their season back on track next week against Brentford, more tough fixtures after that with the form theyre in.
Mad to think the crying from fans about the Owners being tight and when they've finally opened their wallets its been money wasted
The Isaak effect, bad purchase when Ekiteke was ready to lead the line and started well
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 19, 2025, 06:30:50 PMMan United win in Anfield 2-1 few would have called that result or Maguire the match winner.
You can't be winning all the time. Glad for Maguire, he got a bad deal the last 5 years....
Unbelievable Jeff. Liverpool's greatest ever Premier league team and a defending champion team losing at home to one of the worst Manchester United teams.
Isaack doesn't become a bad player overnight..
The style of play needs to change to suit him
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2025, 06:29:26 PMNot surprising. An improved United vs a flaky Liverpool team.
Not surprised at result at all, called it a few weeks ago with my mates after the Chelsea match.
Liverpool need to get their act together, had enough chances to win two games.
How did Gakpo miss that header :o
Quote from: tiempo on October 19, 2025, 06:36:22 PMQuote from: Brendan on October 19, 2025, 06:32:41 PMLiverpool really need to get their season back on track next week against Brentford, more tough fixtures after that with the form theyre in.
Mad to think the crying from fans about the Owners being tight and when they've finally opened their wallets its been money wasted
The Isaak effect, bad purchase when Ekiteke was ready to lead the line and started well
Did Liverpool really need Isak? Sure didn't they already buy 2 or 3 strikers in the summer? Things aren't right since he came aboard
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 19, 2025, 06:41:05 PMQuote from: tiempo on October 19, 2025, 06:36:22 PMQuote from: Brendan on October 19, 2025, 06:32:41 PMLiverpool really need to get their season back on track next week against Brentford, more tough fixtures after that with the form theyre in.
Mad to think the crying from fans about the Owners being tight and when they've finally opened their wallets its been money wasted
The Isaak effect, bad purchase when Ekiteke was ready to lead the line and started well
Did Liverpool really need Isak? Sure didn't they already buy 2 or 3 strikers in the summer? Things aren't right since he came aboard
I'd say they weren't expecting to get Etitike and Isak but I suppose the way it worked out they probably couldn't not sign Isak when the chance was there.
I don't think Isak is the problem anyway, it's the form of Salah and McAlister and a few others from last seasons title winning team which is a bigger problem.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 19, 2025, 06:38:10 PMUnbelievable Jeff. Liverpool's greatest ever Premier league team and a defending champion team losing at home to one of the worst Manchester United teams.
A month ago they were telling us they'd have the league wrapped up by Christmas.
Quote from: Bogman on October 19, 2025, 06:39:58 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2025, 06:29:26 PMNot surprising. An improved United vs a flaky Liverpool team.
Not surprised at result at all, called it a few weeks ago with my mates after the Chelsea match.
Liverpool need to get their act together, had enough chances to win two games.
How did Gakpo miss that header :o
Sure
laoislad bogman/Turf.
Quote from: Bogman on October 19, 2025, 06:39:58 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2025, 06:29:26 PMNot surprising. An improved United vs a flaky Liverpool team.
Not surprised at result at all, called it a few weeks ago with my mates after the Chelsea match.
Liverpool need to get their act together, had enough chances to win two games.
How did Gakpo miss that header :o
Gakpoo nearly missed his goal.
Fluffed it in.
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 19, 2025, 06:41:05 PMQuote from: tiempo on October 19, 2025, 06:36:22 PMQuote from: Brendan on October 19, 2025, 06:32:41 PMLiverpool really need to get their season back on track next week against Brentford, more tough fixtures after that with the form theyre in.
Mad to think the crying from fans about the Owners being tight and when they've finally opened their wallets its been money wasted
The Isaak effect, bad purchase when Ekiteke was ready to lead the line and started well
Did Liverpool really need Isak? Sure didn't they already buy 2 or 3 strikers in the summer? Things aren't right since he came aboard
Isak was always the number 1 target I reckon, maybe they were getting vibes it wasn't going to happen so signed Hugo instead. Then the chance came to buy Isak so the money was there and they went for it.
As someone else said I don't think Isak is the issue, I never heard of this Isak effect before also, what does it mean?
Salah is a shadow of the player he was last season, Wirtz hasn't settled as the well as they probably expected. The full backs haven't fitted in and Bradley doesn't seem to be cracking on.
Konate while ok today has been terrible most of the season.
A lot of issues there to sort out. Saying that they should have won today but it's just not happening for them right now.
Enjoyable game today. Very open and both teams left a few goals after them. Some turnaround for Amorim. Buys him a bit of space but can they build on it as there's been a touch of the two steps back throughout his reign so far. Liverpool out of sorts. Salah just in the way at the moment. Spell on the bench might do him no harm but Isak looks very ordinary too.
Arsenal be happy enough. Very solid team but Christ that game yesterday was as boring as anything I've witnessed. City and the big Norwegian on a bit of a roll at the moment but I'm not sure that squad will hold up in the hard spring months. At least I hope not.
Very congested table from 12th up. There'll be plenty of opportunity to leap frog for anyone puts a bit of a run together.
At the bottom, poor old Wolves. Not a particularly bad team but not getting the rub at the moment. As for Forest, what a shit show.
Dyche new Forest manager. I wouldn't be confident of him lasting the season. Some craic if he's gone by christmas.
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 21, 2025, 10:19:20 AMDyche new Forest manager. I wouldn't be confident of him lasting the season. Some craic if he's gone by christmas.
West Ham manager (ex Forrest) could be following him at this rate, Brentford handy win
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2025, 10:20:50 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on October 21, 2025, 10:19:20 AMDyche new Forest manager. I wouldn't be confident of him lasting the season. Some craic if he's gone by christmas.
West Ham manager (ex Forrest) could be following him at this rate, Brentford handy win
They don't do London derbies at moment although not sure if Brentford holds any significance to Hammers fans. Shite at home too. Think all their points are away so far. Nuno definitely has his work cut out but might be given more leeway than that other psycho gives.
Feck Sunderland going rightly!!
Quote from: gawa316 on October 25, 2025, 05:04:03 PMFeck Sunderland going rightly!!
Certainly are, late winner away to Chelsea.
Is there still a soft spot in Ireland for Sunderland?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2025, 07:00:51 PMIs there still a soft spot in Ireland for Sunderland?
Yeah I don't mind seeing them do well
After today's results Manchester United find themselves ahead of Liverpool in the league table. Bogman/Turf will be along shortly to say he's not surprised.
Another big result for Keith Andrews Brentford.
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 25, 2025, 10:16:54 PMAnother big result for Keith Andrews Brentford.
Makes Uniteds result seem less shit against them now lol.
Fair play, good to see him doing well.
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 25, 2025, 10:16:54 PMAnother big result for Keith Andrews Brentford.
Some result for him! Favourite to be relegated at the start of the season.
Though it looked like the ref was going to play all night to let Liverpool get an equaliser.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2025, 07:00:51 PMIs there still a soft spot in Ireland for Sunderland?
When did people have a soft spot for Sunderland?
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2025, 06:41:09 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2025, 07:00:51 PMIs there still a soft spot in Ireland for Sunderland?
When did people have a soft spot for Sunderland?
Quinn, Keane, Irish connection?
I'd say Sunderland fans are still getting over the shock of signing Xhaka to realise where they are in the table. Some baller. Only thing you'd say against him is he's missing an e at the end of his first name.
The thing is Arsenal had him exposed a lot but when they moved him up the field a bit he is class
If he has legs around him he can do damage. Very happy for Sunderland.
Andrews will have some more wobbles but these big wins really boost a manager.
Like he lost 30 goals and the captain this year and they are still decent.
Fair play!
Good test of Arsenal today. Palace very hard to break down but it's the type of game champions need to be winning. Set pieces will probably decide it. Boring for the neutral but if it works Arteta will be very happy.
Would be good to see Andrews go up a level. Brentford will have wobbles but good to watch. They didn't stand off Liverpool. Liverpool to be fair have always been a good watch but for the last few games, as far as their fans are concerned, it's for all the wrong reasons. Same as Utd, one thing they'll ever be accused of is boring.
Set Piece again ole ole
See Merson latest has said he can't see anyone stopping Arsenal.
That's them f****d!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/10/27/premier-league-entertaining-arsenal-corners-pulis-set-piece/
Arsenal are the league's best team at present. They have scored 16 goals – nine from set-pieces, two from penalties and just five from open play. Fourteen teams have scored more open-play goals than Arsenal which, however good they are, does not feel right.
Quote from: seafoid on October 28, 2025, 09:54:00 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/10/27/premier-league-entertaining-arsenal-corners-pulis-set-piece/
Arsenal are the league's best team at present. They have scored 16 goals – nine from set-pieces, two from penalties and just five from open play. Fourteen teams have scored more open-play goals than Arsenal which, however good they are, does not feel right.
Boring boring arsenal
They have only conceded 3 premier league goals. That's a foundation to win a league title on.
How they score their own goals is one thing, but the major point is that currently they are solid at the back.
Yep, does it really matter how they score their goals? They have superb weapons in Declan Rice's delivery and the ability of the likes of Gabriel in attacking the ball and scoring. Maybe teams will learn how to defend them better, but they've had this strength for quite a while. As said, they're just much tighter in defense now as well.
From a winning the title point of view - no
From an entertainment point of view - yes
Arsenal face the deepest defensive lines of any team and yet they are accused of being boring? For an open game you need two teams to go for it like Arsenal playing Athletico. Even Pep parked the bus against Arsenal and Haaland was positioned at left back at times in game.
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 29, 2025, 12:47:44 PMArsenal face the deepest defensive lines of any team and yet they are accused of being boring? For an open game you need two teams to go for it like Arsenal playing Athletico. Even Pep parked the bus against Arsenal and Haaland was positioned at left back at times in game.
I just checked back through your posts to make sure you're not a WUM, and it seems not.
But by god this post feels like an absolute pisstake.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 29, 2025, 01:00:26 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on October 29, 2025, 12:47:44 PMArsenal face the deepest defensive lines of any team and yet they are accused of being boring? For an open game you need two teams to go for it like Arsenal playing Athletico. Even Pep parked the bus against Arsenal and Haaland was positioned at left back at times in game.
I just checked back through your posts to make sure you're not a WUM, and it seems not.
But by god this post feels like an absolute pisstake.
In what way? Stats show Arsenal play the highest line and face the lowest. Also that Arsenal have more touches in opposition box compared to other teams.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 29, 2025, 10:47:36 AMFrom a winning the title point of view - no
From an entertainment point of view - yes
3 entertaining points at a time
10 games in, over a quarter of the way there!
Have to say, apart from Arsenal, extremely slow pace being set so far. Huge congestion in the middle of the table, with 4 points separating 2nd and 11th. Everyone has had a wobble apart from gunners. Bottom three at a crawl too. Managerial changes may come good and improve performances but looking like a low bar being set for survival. Wolves look goosed already. They've turned it around before with a change in the dugout but ETH being mentioned as replacement wouldn't be tempting you to back them for redemption.
Huge top 4 clashes this weekend. City v Liverpool and Arsenal away to the mighty Sunderland. Not too many would have picked them start of season. While well organised I think they'll struggle badly against the league leaders. City and Liverpool is a hard one to call. Don't know what tactics Slot will deploy but can see a high line being very badly exposed against this current direct ball Pep outfit. If Haaland gets released in behind them the way they've being doing of late it will be a long afternoon for the scousers. Either way it's good news for Arteta's men no matter what happens as at least one of them will be dropping points. They'll need to score against the black cats themselves of course, but I think they will. Might take a set piece, again, but that hardly matters.
Very stop start so far mainly due to the internationals. Hard to get excited about it all. Maybe I'm just getting old
Tottenham say they are supporting Destiny Udogie after confirming the Italy defender was allegedly threatened with a gun by a football agent.
On Monday, BBC Sport reported an unnamed Premier League footballer was targeted in London on 6 September.
Another man is also alleged to have been blackmailed and threatened by the same individual during the incident in question. No injuries were reported.
The Metropolitan police, who are investigating, said a 31-year-old man was arrested on 8 September on suspicion of possession of firearms with intent, blackmail and driving without a licence. He has been bailed while enquiries continue.
In a statement on Tuesday, Spurs said: "We have been providing support for Destiny and his family since the incident and will continue to do so. Given this is a legal matter, we cannot comment any further.
Sunderland good start to the season continues with a 2-2 draw against Arsenal.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 08, 2025, 08:07:07 PMSunderland good start to the season continues with a 2-2 draw against Arsenal.
Arsenal drop 2 points. Liverpool vs Man City tomorrow. If Man City win they will be 4 points behind Arsenal. If Liverpool win they will be 5 points behind Arsenal.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/11/08/sunderland-vs-arsenal-live-score-latest-updates-premier/
"Arsenal have ticked a lot of boxes as title contenders so far this season, but they left Sunderland after this bruising draw with a question mark against them.
Could they scrap and fight for a win when things were not going well? When they were being frustrated and annoyed, could they find a way to take three points?
When they are being bullied, when they are being roughed up, when they are being dragged into a football match resembling a combat sport, in front of a partisan home crowd, a long way from home, could they bite down, stick their chin down and punch back?
The answer appeared to be a resounding yes right up until the moment, under pressure at the end, they allowed Sunderland to equalise through Brian Brobbey
Beaten up by their hosts before half-time, Arsenal looked fragile; vulnerable for the first time in a while. The way they came out in the second and took control of the contest was encouraging, but they could not hold on because they could not clear their lines. Their lead at the top of the table could be well be cut and others will look at this and believe Arsenal can be hurt.
If you get in their face, if you scratch and claw, go direct and hustle them for every second ball, is this the blueprint to derail another Arsenal title charge?"
Quote from: seafoid on November 08, 2025, 09:57:27 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/11/08/sunderland-vs-arsenal-live-score-latest-updates-premier/
"Arsenal have ticked a lot of boxes as title contenders so far this season, but they left Sunderland after this bruising draw with a question mark against them.
Could they scrap and fight for a win when things were not going well? When they were being frustrated and annoyed, could they find a way to take three points?
When they are being bullied, when they are being roughed up, when they are being dragged into a football match resembling a combat sport, in front of a partisan home crowd, a long way from home, could they bite down, stick their chin down and punch back?
The answer appeared to be a resounding yes right up until the moment, under pressure at the end, they allowed Sunderland to equalise through Brian Brobbey
Beaten up by their hosts before half-time, Arsenal looked fragile; vulnerable for the first time in a while. The way they came out in the second and took control of the contest was encouraging, but they could not hold on because they could not clear their lines. Their lead at the top of the table could be well be cut and others will look at this and believe Arsenal can be hurt.
If you get in their face, if you scratch and claw, go direct and hustle them for every second ball, is this the blueprint to derail another Arsenal title charge?"
I don't think the squad left bruised but certainly Arteta.. 1 sub the whole game and on 87 mins, absolutely scandalous
Keith Andrews Brentford with another good win this afternoon. Newcastle having a bit of struggle this season with just 3 wins in 11 games and only two points off 18th place.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 09, 2025, 04:29:17 PMKeith Andrews Brentford with another good win this afternoon. Newcastle having a bit of struggle this season with just 3 wins in 11 games and only two points off 18th place.
Wild how tight that league is at the minute.
A deserved 2-0 half time lead for Man City. Liverpool sure to have a kick in them, can't be as bad 2nd half?
When the best attacking side in England spends £300m+ in the same window on attacking players, and things then go to pot, it's hard not let out a Nelson Muntz style haha.
Quote from: thewobbler on November 09, 2025, 06:10:04 PMWhen the best attacking side in England spends £300m+ in the same window on attacking players, and things then go to pot, it's hard not let out a Nelson Muntz style haha.
To be fair one of those players hasn't been on the pitch.
As good as Liverpool was mid week against Real Madrid they were the opposite tonight as bossed and bullied by City. Strange lack of consistency from Liverpool this season after spending big in the summer.
I thought at the time they should have gave Isak a wide berth especially with the price tag and after the way he engineered his exit. Defence was more a priority and Guehi would have been a great addition. That didn't happen and they looked like they could cope till next window before strengthening CD, but since Isak came in they've been a disaster for whatever reason, coincidence or not.
Squad looks way off balance. At this stage if Slot can steady the ship and towards end of season have them fine tuned and looking like they could mount a title challenge for the following season, it will be a very good season for them. With the money they've spent, they don't want to have buyer's remorse and be looking to overhaul the squad come summer. Or even searching a new manager.
Sunderland looked great last night. Very physical team but very athletic and can all play. City on a bit of a roll but that was a poor team they were playing today. Hope they come unstuck at some stage, preferably when January window closes after they've failed to strengthen.
Quote from: u on August 15, 2025, 06:34:12 PMLiverpool will coast to another PL.
Slot a better manager than Klopp.
Man City in transition
Chelsea and Arsenal fill togs when going gets tough.
Tottenham are Tottenham. Ditto Vila.
Newcastle will struggle this year without Isak going to Pool.
Man Utd be closer to relegation than top.
Oh Jesus. 😁
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 26, 2025, 08:51:08 AMQuote from: Bogman on August 26, 2025, 06:59:39 AMNewcastle put everything into that last night as if it was a Cup final
They beat you already this year in your cup final at Wembley. It launched the Slot Slump that has been ongoing since last March.
I was ridiculed back then, guess who is having the last laugh 😃
Big game in London today. Important gunners keep the foot down and stay at their pace. While this is a decent spurs team I think dropping points against them could be very damaging to Arsenal confidence.
Keep winning and it's massive massive pressure off their shoulders. Not convinced on Chelsea. They're good but will drop lots of points and can't see them breaking 80 points. Plus doubt they'll do much in January transfer window. That leaves just City only team in the tile race capable of crossing 80 points bar. And still think that's a huge if for them without strengthening in the new year.
Tactics Tim said y'day if Arsenal win today they win the league and will win it for the next few years and if they don't they won't.
Seems like a lot is riding on today's match then 🤭
Some boy but typical of the hysteric commentary on football teams these days.
It is an important game and season for them though. Arsenal of 2/3 years ago I'd be very confident of winning the title this year so they won't get a better opportunity for a while. Failure and I'm not sure where that leaves Arteta.
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 23, 2025, 10:07:53 AMBig game in London today. Important gunners keep the foot down and stay at their pace. While this is a decent spurs team I think dropping points against them could be very damaging to Arsenal confidence.
Keep winning and it's massive massive pressure off their shoulders. Not convinced on Chelsea. They're good but will drop lots of points and can't see them breaking 80 points. Plus doubt they'll do much in January transfer window. That leaves just City only team in the tile race capable of crossing 80 points bar. And still think that's a huge if for them without strengthening in the new year.
The way this season is going it looks similar to last season whereby 2nd will only get mid 70 points. Arsenal are in the box seat to win their first Premier league title 22 years.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 23, 2025, 12:43:25 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 23, 2025, 10:07:53 AMBig game in London today. Important gunners keep the foot down and stay at their pace. While this is a decent spurs team I think dropping points against them could be very damaging to Arsenal confidence.
Keep winning and it's massive massive pressure off their shoulders. Not convinced on Chelsea. They're good but will drop lots of points and can't see them breaking 80 points. Plus doubt they'll do much in January transfer window. That leaves just City only team in the tile race capable of crossing 80 points bar. And still think that's a huge if for them without strengthening in the new year.
The way this season is going it looks similar to last season whereby 2nd will only get mid 70 points. Arsenal are in the box seat to win their first Premier league title 22 years.
Just about a third of the way there but looking like that. Go back a month and it was shaping up to be a real cliffhanger with multiple teams in it. But yeah, now it look like a two horse race at best, if even that. Only way that changes is for Arsenal form to fall off a cliff.
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 23, 2025, 12:54:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on November 23, 2025, 12:43:25 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 23, 2025, 10:07:53 AMBig game in London today. Important gunners keep the foot down and stay at their pace. While this is a decent spurs team I think dropping points against them could be very damaging to Arsenal confidence.
Keep winning and it's massive massive pressure off their shoulders. Not convinced on Chelsea. They're good but will drop lots of points and can't see them breaking 80 points. Plus doubt they'll do much in January transfer window. That leaves just City only team in the tile race capable of crossing 80 points bar. And still think that's a huge if for them without strengthening in the new year.
The way this season is going it looks similar to last season whereby 2nd will only get mid 70 points. Arsenal are in the box seat to win their first Premier league title 22 years.
Just about a third of the way there but looking like that. Go back a month and it was shaping up to be a real cliffhanger with multiple teams in it. But yeah, now it look like a two horse race at best, if even that. Only way that changes is for Arsenal form to fall off a cliff.
Arsenal would need to match last seasons points total for this season to be a two or three horse race and it's hard to see them getting below 80 points with the improvement they have made to their squad and most of their new signings fitting in well.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 23, 2025, 01:26:26 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 23, 2025, 12:54:42 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on November 23, 2025, 12:43:25 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 23, 2025, 10:07:53 AMBig game in London today. Important gunners keep the foot down and stay at their pace. While this is a decent spurs team I think dropping points against them could be very damaging to Arsenal confidence.
Keep winning and it's massive massive pressure off their shoulders. Not convinced on Chelsea. They're good but will drop lots of points and can't see them breaking 80 points. Plus doubt they'll do much in January transfer window. That leaves just City only team in the tile race capable of crossing 80 points bar. And still think that's a huge if for them without strengthening in the new year.
The way this season is going it looks similar to last season whereby 2nd will only get mid 70 points. Arsenal are in the box seat to win their first Premier league title 22 years.
Just about a third of the way there but looking like that. Go back a month and it was shaping up to be a real cliffhanger with multiple teams in it. But yeah, now it look like a two horse race at best, if even that. Only way that changes is for Arsenal form to fall off a cliff.
Arsenal would need to match last seasons points total for this season to be a two or three horse race and it's hard to see them getting below 80 points with the improvement they have made to their squad and most of their new signings fitting in well.
Yep. Few little niggles here and there with them that they need to manage. But very very solid team barring a major injury crisis.
Spurs time wasting here from the first minute.. What absolute dross this is going to be
One-sided North London Derby
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Quote from: Mourne Red on November 23, 2025, 04:53:02 PMSpurs time wasting here from the first minute.. What absolute dross this is going to be
1st half was horrible. Finally a bit of Arsenal class took over. Not a shot on target in 45 for spurs
Excellent win for Arsenal. Important for their title credentials that they bounced back from dropping 2 points last day out and also with the added pressure of a derby.
Whatever about the rest of the teams not being at full tilt, it's still very impressive form by the gunners and a very decent pace by any standards. Very nice cushion to have too but talk of choking is never too far away and a big game again v Chelsea next week. Win and league wrapped up BS for some, lose and it's a bottle job for others. They just need to keep the heads for a while. Leagues are never won before Xmas but they certainly can be lost and Chelsea and City definitely need to up it a bit. Anyone hoping this Arsenal team will just slow down could be left very disappointed.
United's line will defo bring some abuse to their thread tonight ;D
Disclaimer, I wont be watching
Lee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2025, 08:22:05 PMLee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Idrissa Gueye was shown a red card clashing with his own team-mate simliar to that sending off you have mentioned. Talk about stupid and needless.
Quote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2025, 08:22:05 PMLee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Games gone. There was f**k all in that, handbags.
Wasn't anything like the Bowyer and Dyer incident.
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2025, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2025, 08:22:05 PMLee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Games gone. There was f**k all in that, handbags.
Wasn't anything like the Bowyer and Dyer incident.
Don't think anyone on the pitch or in the stadium knew what was going on. A complete joke.
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2025, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2025, 08:22:05 PMLee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Games gone. There was f**k all in that, handbags.
Wasn't anything like the Bowyer and Dyer incident.
Mind oul Brucie and McManaman going at it in one game!
United when they don't have Amad at RWB look a limited outfit.
Alot of what United have done well this year has been the linkup between Amad and Mbuemo down that same wing.
For all that Everton are one nil up. at half time. United are yet to get going.
Quote from: gawa316 on November 24, 2025, 08:53:33 PMQuote from: laoislad on November 24, 2025, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2025, 08:22:05 PMLee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Games gone. There was f**k all in that, handbags.
Wasn't anything like the Bowyer and Dyer incident.
Mind oul Brucie and McManaman going at it in one game!
They did yeah, was well worse than that tonight also! Was against Everton I'm pretty sure.
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2025, 08:57:56 PMQuote from: gawa316 on November 24, 2025, 08:53:33 PMQuote from: laoislad on November 24, 2025, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2025, 08:22:05 PMLee Bowyer and Kieran Dyer are at it again ;D
Games gone. There was f**k all in that, handbags.
Wasn't anything like the Bowyer and Dyer incident.
Mind oul Brucie and McManaman going at it in one game!
They did yeah, was well worse than that tonight also! Was against Everton I'm pretty sure.
It was yeah.
Just say it and seems to have been for a pretty feminine slap to Keane's face
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 24, 2025, 08:55:42 PMUnited when they don't have Amad at RWB look a limited outfit.
Alot of what United have done well this year has been the linkup between Amad and Mbuemo down that same wing.
Cunha is a big loss too. Should put Mount and Mainoo in for Zirkzee and Mazraoui.
Man Utd don't look like scoring toinght. Mbuemo very quiet and Zirkzee ineffective as usual.
Quote from: Gael85 on November 24, 2025, 09:14:22 PMMan Utd don't look like scoring toinght. Mbuemo very quiet and Zirkzee ineffective as usual.
Loads of time left. Everton will tire.
Dalot on now.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2025, 09:18:35 PMQuote from: Gael85 on November 24, 2025, 09:14:22 PMMan Utd don't look like scoring toinght. Mbuemo very quiet and Zirkzee ineffective as usual.
Loads of time left. Everton will tire.
Can't see breaking down this Everton defence sticking with this formation. Final ball is poor too.
Everton will go above Liverpool, do not all bad ;D
Game over. Only 4 minutes injury time.
Great performance from Everton.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2025, 09:56:36 PMGreat performance from Everton.
10 man Everton at that.
Embarrassing for Man United.
That poor fella will never get a haircut again.
Liverpool could learn how to defend from that match.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2025, 09:56:36 PMGreat performance from Everton.
Nothing spectacular tbh.
A good save from the header was the only time Pickford was stretched.
Big Barry won some amount of headers with little to no support.
Well done Everton. United were poor though. Players like Dorgu, Shaw, zirkzee, dalot just not at that level. U it'd got what they deserved from that game , nothing.
Got 2 lucky draws away to spurs and forest.
Still a long way off. No striker at the club.
I knew United would cheer me up after a bad weekend for Liverpool. Losing against 10 men with no European football to distract them is not what United want.
Quote from: Gael85 on November 24, 2025, 09:14:22 PMMan Utd don't look like scoring toinght. Mbuemo very quiet and Zirkzee ineffective as usual.
Pickford made some good saves from Zirkzee 2nd half. Mbeumo was poor.
Its a year since Ruben Amorim managed United for the 1st time and results like tonight against a ten man side won't convince anyone he's the right manager to bring the club forward
Looked at the team before the game and called it..
United are poor, nothing changed too much from last year
I actually thought Utd might get something from the game but last 10 minutes were shocking TBH. Everton were there for the taking but Utd never turned the screw. In fact intensity dropped and Everton probably had as much of the ball for last 6 or 7 minutes and looked more likely to score.
Hard to believe 1 or 2 injuries can upset a team that much. Zirkzee not near good enough. Whatever about converting chances his hold up play and general passing is so sloppy.
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 24, 2025, 10:54:22 PMI actually thought Utd might get something from the game but last 10 minutes were shocking TBH. Everton were there for the taking but Utd never turned the screw. In fact intensity dropped and Everton probably had as much of the ball for last 6 or 7 minutes and looked more likely to score.
Hard to believe 1 or 2 injuries can upset a team that much. Zirkzee not near good enough. Whatever about converting chances his hold up play and general passing is so sloppy.
The lack of intensity was the most notable aspect. United of old would have had Everton's players heads spinning with the bombardment.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2025, 11:06:29 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 24, 2025, 10:54:22 PMI actually thought Utd might get something from the game but last 10 minutes were shocking TBH. Everton were there for the taking but Utd never turned the screw. In fact intensity dropped and Everton probably had as much of the ball for last 6 or 7 minutes and looked more likely to score.
Hard to believe 1 or 2 injuries can upset a team that much. Zirkzee not near good enough. Whatever about converting chances his hold up play and general passing is so sloppy.
The lack of intensity was the most notable aspect. United of old would have had Everton's players heads spinning with the bombardment.
Yeah it was perfectly poised for a 2-1 or 3-1. Had Everton conceded you felt they would have crumbled.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2025, 10:31:38 PMLooked at the team before the game and called it..
United are poor, nothing changed too much from last year
Yep if he started Mount instead of Mazroui play him as a 10 and moved Amad to RWB i think they'd have won
Worst league in years
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 24, 2025, 11:10:21 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2025, 11:06:29 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 24, 2025, 10:54:22 PMI actually thought Utd might get something from the game but last 10 minutes were shocking TBH. Everton were there for the taking but Utd never turned the screw. In fact intensity dropped and Everton probably had as much of the ball for last 6 or 7 minutes and looked more likely to score.
Hard to believe 1 or 2 injuries can upset a team that much. Zirkzee not near good enough. Whatever about converting chances his hold up play and general passing is so sloppy.
The lack of intensity was the most notable aspect. United of old would have had Everton's players heads spinning with the bombardment.
Yeah it was perfectly poised for a 2-1 or 3-1. Had Everton conceded you felt they would have crumbled.
Not sure lumping high ball in on top of that Everton defence was the right idea all the same.
Yes, Zirkzee got a good header away once, but with all the possession Utd had Everton dealt pretty comfortably with most of the high ball threw in there just like they did when up at Sunderland who specialise in the long throws etc into the box.
Keane, Tarky and O'Brien are not small lads.
Poor wee Seamy, only lasted 10 minutes due to injury, the lad has no luck, but I suppose he was the right person to have the first words with Gueye when he arrived into the changing room not long after.
The face on Moyes as he quickstepped to the changing rooms at half time was choice. I'd not liked to have been Gueye when he got in.
TBH he had a point with Keane not reacting at all to his pass, but you can't be slapping the big fecker on the face right in front of the ref..
Everton have bought/loaned well this summer, Dewsbury-Hall and Grealish are marked improvements from Doucoure and Onana (who is doing pretty well at Villa in fairness) and that allows Ndiaye to stay further up the field to work his magic.
Still need a decent striker although big Barry did his best to hold up the ball and get flick ons, something Beto failed to do in the last 10 minutes.
Beto is clean useless. Team doing very well considering they've not got a striker anywhere near top level at all.
Good to see Moyes turning the tide a bit at Everton. Quiet unassuming but very steady manager proving that you can sometimes go back. Drama never far away in PL of course but him and Everton seem a good fit.
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 25, 2025, 10:41:50 AMGood to see Moyes turning the tide a bit at Everton. Quiet unassuming but very steady manager proving that you can sometimes go back. Drama never far away in PL of course but him and Everton seem a good fit.
Yeah Moyes has Everton going well. If they had a decent striker like a Lakaku when he was with them then they would be challenging for Europe. But over half the league are crying out for a decent striker. The one position that the quality seems to be diminishing year on year. Don't make em like they used to.
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 25, 2025, 10:41:50 AMGood to see Moyes turning the tide a bit at Everton. Quiet unassuming but very steady manager proving that you can sometimes go back. Drama never far away in PL of course but him and Everton seem a good fit.
The Chosen One.....
Quote from: square_ball on November 25, 2025, 10:51:15 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 25, 2025, 10:41:50 AMGood to see Moyes turning the tide a bit at Everton. Quiet unassuming but very steady manager proving that you can sometimes go back. Drama never far away in PL of course but him and Everton seem a good fit.
Yeah Moyes has Everton going well. If they had a decent striker like a Lakaku when he was with them then they would be challenging for Europe. But over half the league are crying out for a decent striker. The one position that the quality seems to be diminishing year on year. Don't make em like they used to.
Yeah it's pretty mad alright. Ivan Toney of a couple years ago would be perfect for them. Today another story, more of a punt than a big investment given his history.
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 25, 2025, 11:52:19 AMQuote from: square_ball on November 25, 2025, 10:51:15 AMQuote from: Look-Up! on November 25, 2025, 10:41:50 AMGood to see Moyes turning the tide a bit at Everton. Quiet unassuming but very steady manager proving that you can sometimes go back. Drama never far away in PL of course but him and Everton seem a good fit.
Yeah Moyes has Everton going well. If they had a decent striker like a Lakaku when he was with them then they would be challenging for Europe. But over half the league are crying out for a decent striker. The one position that the quality seems to be diminishing year on year. Don't make em like they used to.
Yeah it's pretty mad alright. Ivan Toney of a couple years ago would be perfect for them. Today another story, more of a punt than a big investment given his history.
:)
That was an accident ;D ;D
Quote from: RedHand88 on November 25, 2025, 07:31:25 AMWorst league in years
Lets be honest the league is as mediocre as last year however supporters of the one consistent team (Arsenal) are unlikely to be as irascible as Liverpool supporters was this time last season when it was pointed out to them.
The one improvement on last season is we might get a relegation battle this season.