Should be a tight game, no love lost between them
Honestly not sure if this game will go ahead as scheduled. There's a while bit of covid in tyrone at the moment
You would fear for Tyrone if kerry team missing 5/6 lads beat Armagh so comprehensively. McKernan gone for year too, will be a loss.
At start of year said Tyrone cannot win anything without Kennedy, Morgan and McKernan producing their best.
The latter wont be on the pitch.
Do Tyrone get a small forward on OConnor and get him booked early? It will take every bit of guile , luck and gambling to bring down the Kingdom.
Quote from: Dun Eile on June 29, 2025, 10:13:02 PMYou would fear for Tyrone if kerry team missing 5/6 lads beat Armagh so comprehensively. McKernan gone for year too, will be a loss.
Malachy said McKernan wanted to tog out yesterday and believes his season isn't over yet. Could be bluffing but he doesn't seem the sort of manager who'd be into that.
Quote from: An Watcher on June 29, 2025, 08:12:02 PMHonestly not sure if this game will go ahead as scheduled. There's a while bit of covid in tyrone at the moment
That's original ::)
Need a couple of Stewartstown men drafted in.
Any chance the Minor final will get moved for a curtain raiser to this one. ??
Quote from: snoopdog on June 30, 2025, 08:22:07 AMAny chance the Minor final will get moved for a curtain raiser to this one. ??
No chance whatsoever.
Have a feeling those Tyrone hoors will edge this one. Not sure Kerry will put in another performance like yesterday.
Kerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 30, 2025, 09:15:13 AMHave a feeling those Tyrone hoors will edge this one. Not sure Kerry will put in another performance like yesterday.
Cant see it. Tyrone played one full impressive game this year against donegal and thats about it. Would say another 1-2 years away at this stage. Hopefully we keep it competitive
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Probably. They beat an Armagh team that gave up fairly easily when the chips were down.
The latest speculation is Tyrone v Kerry is Saturday 12th July but this is not confirmed! :)
Quote from: Lamps on June 30, 2025, 09:53:06 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Probably. They beat an Armagh team that gave up fairly easily when the chips were down.
That was one of my big disappointments yesterday. Not sure we gave up but we definitely capitulated
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:57:09 AMQuote from: Lamps on June 30, 2025, 09:53:06 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Probably. They beat an Armagh team that gave up fairly easily when the chips were down.
That was one of my big disappointments yesterday. Not sure we gave up but we definitely capitulated
the hunger is never the same when the All Ireland medal is already in the back pocket.
Pat Spillane still mentioning Tyrone hoodwinked kerry in 2021. Pat has a real chip on his shoulder regarding Tyrone and ulster GAA. You be hoping Malachy O'Rourke is pinning comments on dressing room wall.
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/pat-spillane-tyrone-struggles-603573
Quote from: Lamps on June 30, 2025, 09:58:44 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:57:09 AMQuote from: Lamps on June 30, 2025, 09:53:06 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Probably. They beat an Armagh team that gave up fairly easily when the chips were down.
That was one of my big disappointments yesterday. Not sure we gave up but we definitely capitulated
the hunger is never the same when the All Ireland medal is already in the back pocket.
truth there but I rally thought our boys wanted to go back to back. That said, all credit to Kerry. Dont eant it to seem like I am taking anything away from them
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 12:04:30 PMQuote from: Lamps on June 30, 2025, 09:58:44 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:57:09 AMQuote from: Lamps on June 30, 2025, 09:53:06 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Probably. They beat an Armagh team that gave up fairly easily when the chips were down.
That was one of my big disappointments yesterday. Not sure we gave up but we definitely capitulated
the hunger is never the same when the All Ireland medal is already in the back pocket.
truth there but I rally thought our boys wanted to go back to back. That said, all credit to Kerry. Dont eant it to seem like I am taking anything away from them
The surviving members of the 60/61 Down team all met up yesterday night for some champagne to toast the fact that they're still the last Ulster team to win back to back.
The Cavan 47/48 team only got 12 years of champagne drinking from their achievement.😁
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 12:27:24 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
Anyone who doesn't know the difference between site and sight cannot be taken seriously.
2 pages and we don't even know what day the game is on.
This one could run and run.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 30, 2025, 12:41:38 PM2 pages and we don't even know what day the game is on.
This one could run and run.
As long as theres no covid outbreaks this time lol.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 30, 2025, 12:41:38 PM2 pages and we don't even know what day the game is on.
This one could run and run.
Think it's more or less sure to be Saturday with Tailteann cup final. But will be announced soon.
Going to be another big battle. So hard to call some of the games these days with the new game.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
It's sight, not site..if you're going to do a wind up post at least get the grammar down!
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 30, 2025, 12:48:40 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
It's sight, not site..if you're going to do a wind up post at least get the grammar down!
haha, my bad and yes more tongue in cheek than anything else but if Kerry dont bring the same intensity and desire as yesterday they will be in trouble.
Sat 12th July at 5:00pm
Is there any way of watching the full Quarter finals from the Saturday?
Quote from: Hereiam on June 30, 2025, 02:56:29 PMSat 12th July at 5:00pm
Nice day to be travelling through Moygashel.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 05:48:31 PMQuote from: trileacman on June 30, 2025, 04:27:22 PMIs there any way of watching the full Quarter finals from the Saturday?
Yes, check out Saturday Game Live on Rte player
Only highlights available on the Saturday game. Here's a link to the final 10 mins on YouTube...
https://youtu.be/7uA2_7V9D0U?si=8csUb-oWW9xkQpBL
Do gaa+ ever release full game coverage or is it always kept behind pay wall?
If you are subscribed to GAA+ do you have the ability watch games back on demand?
Yeah, you can look back on their games. Also, sometimes they have free content too, but not sure re these games.
Are the Ulster teams something Jacko is going to use in terms of psychology. As was noted they have beaten Tyrone plenty of times, but they can still rustle up some soreness from the 00s!
They see off Armagh, send Tyrone packing and then it's Donegal (more than likely) in the final. I'm sure he will tap into it.
Kerry go in as heavy favourites, Tyrone nipped them in 21.
Tyrones best hope is to corral P Clifford and pole axe Seanie somehow.
Running at Kerry defence direct when theyre set up for long kick outs resulted in two gilt edge goal chances for armagh.
TK had three men beside him and idiotically went for glory.
The wild card is McElholm and other bench impacts, whether to start someone different. Tyrone need a 2 point bonanza to have a sniff, and minimum two goals.
Joe O Connor is impossible to stop when he gets on a run, you can really see the Rugby in him.
Quote from: StephenC on June 30, 2025, 06:09:09 PMIf you are subscribed to GAA+ do you have the ability watch games back on demand?
Yes
Quote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 12:27:24 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
I find, even as a Tyrone man, this narrative strange. Maybe it's that Kerry haven't won Sam after beating Tyrone (1986 aside?), whereas Tyrone have always beat Kerry along the way to winning Sam. Kerry have usually inflicted the bigger defeats, aside from 2003, Tyrone have always deserved the win, but it was never by much.
I do think it odd that Kerry have won so many medals, yet there's more than a few like Spillane that have never got over the pettiness, even after giving us a few good baitings and even now, him bringing up conspiracy theories again about 2021... While beating Kerry is always that bit nicer and losing is that bit worse, I can't remember any Tyrone pundits, fans etc. reacting similarly when we've been beat.
Only Armagh player to cause Kerry bother was Oisin Conaty. Who do we have that most resembles the type of player Conaty is, fast and direct runner? McElholm for me. I'd go for this 15...
Morgan
Quinn
Hampsey
Devlin
Teague
Brennan
McGeary
Conn
Kennedy
Petey Harte
McElholm
Daly
McCurry
Mattie
Darragh
Hampsey on DC and Teague on SoS
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 30, 2025, 07:20:24 PMQuote from: StephenC on June 30, 2025, 06:09:09 PMIf you are subscribed to GAA+ do you have the ability watch games back on demand?
Yes
If you only buy one game (lets say Kerry v Tyrone) can you watch it back after if you havent watched it 'live'?
Any suggestions on anticipated attendance? Will it break 30k?
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 30, 2025, 09:30:55 PMAny suggestions on anticipated attendance? Will it break 30k?
Tailteann Cup final might inflate the figures
Quote from: HokeyPokey on June 30, 2025, 08:26:54 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 12:27:24 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
I find, even as a Tyrone man, this narrative strange. Maybe it's that Kerry haven't won Sam after beating Tyrone (1986 aside?), whereas Tyrone have always beat Kerry along the way to winning Sam. Kerry have usually inflicted the bigger defeats, aside from 2003, Tyrone have always deserved the win, but it was never by much.
I do think it odd that Kerry have won so many medals, yet there's more than a few like Spillane that have never got over the pettiness, even after giving us a few good baitings and even now, him bringing up conspiracy theories again about 2021... While beating Kerry is always that bit nicer and losing is that bit worse, I can't remember any Tyrone pundits, fans etc. reacting similarly when we've been beat.
It drives Kerry crazy and Jack O'Connor said so in his book: Jack of all Trades.. "Losing to Tyrone is worse than losing to almost anyone else. Not that there's much history between us. That's the point. There's an arrogance to northern football which rubs Kerry people up the wrong way. They're flash and nouveau riche and full of it."
That 'puke football' rhetoric from Spillane and still going on bout 2021 Covid. Like get over it.
Paul Galvan cried after beating Tyrone in Trallee he was so hurt by losing to them. Is like one championship victory over them just does their heads in. Hopefully...
58,687 attended the infamous 2003 Tyrone Kerry game.
This will have maybe 42,000?
Paidi Clifford needs clipped. Maybe a clumsy tackle by Teague.
Quote from: ONeill on June 30, 2025, 10:09:52 PMPaidi Clifford needs clipped. Maybe a clumsy tackle by Teague.
Read that in Nidge voice Love Hate. If we need a shooter who u asking?
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 30, 2025, 10:04:53 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on June 30, 2025, 08:26:54 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 12:27:24 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
I find, even as a Tyrone man, this narrative strange. Maybe it's that Kerry haven't won Sam after beating Tyrone (1986 aside?), whereas Tyrone have always beat Kerry along the way to winning Sam. Kerry have usually inflicted the bigger defeats, aside from 2003, Tyrone have always deserved the win, but it was never by much.
I do think it odd that Kerry have won so many medals, yet there's more than a few like Spillane that have never got over the pettiness, even after giving us a few good baitings and even now, him bringing up conspiracy theories again about 2021... While beating Kerry is always that bit nicer and losing is that bit worse, I can't remember any Tyrone pundits, fans etc. reacting similarly when we've been beat.
It drives Kerry crazy and Jack O'Connor said so in his book: Jack of all Trades.. "Losing to Tyrone is worse than losing to almost anyone else. Not that there's much history between us. That's the point. There's an arrogance to northern football which rubs Kerry people up the wrong way. They're flash and nouveau riche and full of it."
That 'puke football' rhetoric from Spillane and still going on bout 2021 Covid. Like get over it.
Paul Galvan cried after beating Tyrone in Trallee he was so hurt by losing to them. Is like one championship victory over them just does their heads in. Hopefully...
I agree on Spillane, he's always banging on with that shite but he's totally irrelevant in Kerry these days. Blame the Indo for giving him a platform. I never listen to him and neither do most people down here.
For most Kerry people the thing in the 2000s with Tyrone was annoying but honestly, doesn't grate massively as 2003 we were well beaten and it was actually no harm as it lead to a change of the guard. 2005 final was a good enough battle but the better team won. 2008 final would be an annoying one for us alright as I do think we had the tools to win that but the team selection and tactics were poor, gave away an awful goal and just didn't perform well enough on that day.
All that being said now, it's very satisfying to beat Tyrone but that's because they're a serious football county and the way things are going I can see them being a huge force in next few years.
Quote from: ONeill on June 30, 2025, 10:09:52 PMPaidi Clifford needs clipped. Maybe a clumsy tackle by Teague.
Work away, Paudie is well able for the hard stuff. David too.
Hampsey could try the pro wrestling move of concealing a tiny razor in his gloves. Just a nick on the forehead and one of the gallant Kerry stars and off they go for a blood sub.
Rinse and repeat for 70 minutes at crucial points in the game.
It will probably require some sleek subterfuge from Tyrone with plausible deniability. Kerry know theyre fit for anything, what with the poisoned water bottles fiasco!
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 30, 2025, 10:25:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 30, 2025, 10:04:53 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on June 30, 2025, 08:26:54 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 12:27:24 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
I find, even as a Tyrone man, this narrative strange. Maybe it's that Kerry haven't won Sam after beating Tyrone (1986 aside?), whereas Tyrone have always beat Kerry along the way to winning Sam. Kerry have usually inflicted the bigger defeats, aside from 2003, Tyrone have always deserved the win, but it was never by much.
I do think it odd that Kerry have won so many medals, yet there's more than a few like Spillane that have never got over the pettiness, even after giving us a few good baitings and even now, him bringing up conspiracy theories again about 2021... While beating Kerry is always that bit nicer and losing is that bit worse, I can't remember any Tyrone pundits, fans etc. reacting similarly when we've been beat.
It drives Kerry crazy and Jack O'Connor said so in his book: Jack of all Trades.. "Losing to Tyrone is worse than losing to almost anyone else. Not that there's much history between us. That's the point. There's an arrogance to northern football which rubs Kerry people up the wrong way. They're flash and nouveau riche and full of it."
That 'puke football' rhetoric from Spillane and still going on bout 2021 Covid. Like get over it.
Paul Galvan cried after beating Tyrone in Trallee he was so hurt by losing to them. Is like one championship victory over them just does their heads in. Hopefully...
I agree on Spillane, he's always banging on with that shite but he's totally irrelevant in Kerry these days. Blame the Indo for giving him a platform. I never listen to him and neither do most people down here.
For most Kerry people the thing in the 2000s with Tyrone was annoying but honestly, doesn't grate massively as 2003 we were well beaten and it was actually no harm as it lead to a change of the guard. 2005 final was a good enough battle but the better team won. 2008 final would be an annoying one for us alright as I do think we had the tools to win that but the team selection and tactics were poor, gave away an awful goal and just didn't perform well enough on that day.
All that being said now, it's very satisfying to beat Tyrone but that's because they're a serious football county and the way things are going I can see them being a huge force in next few years.
Fair enough but not all the rhetoric quite as generous. When Kerry beat Tyrone two years ago, Tómas on RTÉ and Marc on GAAGO asked did Tyrone have Covid-19. It came across as so petty and begrudging of 2021. For the record Kerry aceeded to the request to put the game back in 2021, they didn't have to. But since try to tarnish that All Ireland...
If you knew how much Tyrone people worshipped the Kerry team of that era '75 to '86 and them patting us on the head! Changed times...
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 30, 2025, 10:27:47 PMQuote from: ONeill on June 30, 2025, 10:09:52 PMPaidi Clifford needs clipped. Maybe a clumsy tackle by Teague.
Work away, Paudie is well able for the hard stuff. David too.
History shows he isn't, especially against Stewartstown men. I'd worry about Kerry indiscipline.
I said it on the other thread but surely Darragh Canavan and McCurry will be better the next day too.
Canavan especially looked like he was off balance ALL the time.
If they can get the spread of scorers going...then who knows.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 01, 2025, 12:02:26 AMI said it on the other thread but surely Darragh Canavan and McCurry will be better the next day too.
Canavan especially looked like he was off balance ALL the time.
If they can get the spread of scorers going...then who knows.
McCurry is hot and cold at the best of times, probably passed his best. Generally reliable from frees if you take last weekends game out of it. Canavan has skill to burn, but I think he's too small against these bigger well condition teams. When you say he looked off balance, to me he was just getting out-muscled. He's still relatively young so time on his side to bulk up. McElhone to me is the most dangerous option - fast and direct. Was the liveliest forward on the field when he came on against Dublin. I see the temptation in holding him as an impact sub, but its a tough call that.
The problem Tyrone will have is that they don't have those big physical forwards, like Clifford, who can win their own ball, take men on and score off both feet. Matty Donnelly is probably the closest they have to that type of player, but he won't get 6/7 points a game. Not many teams do have that player to be fair, but Kerry have a huge advantage in terms of forwards available to them compared to Tyrone.
The way to limit them, will be to stop the supply - so once again kickouts will be key and possession in the middle 8 area vital. Tyrone have big men in the middle but given how Kerry performed against the Armagh kickouts and Morgan's dip in form, I'd say they will struggle.
It'd be a bonus if Cathal McShane could be parachuted in. The forward line have missed his physical presence.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 01, 2025, 09:45:04 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on July 01, 2025, 12:02:26 AMI said it on the other thread but surely Darragh Canavan and McCurry will be better the next day too.
Canavan especially looked like he was off balance ALL the time.
If they can get the spread of scorers going...then who knows.
McCurry is hot and cold at the best of times, probably passed his best. Generally reliable from frees if you take last weekends game out of it. Canavan has skill to burn, but I think he's too small against these bigger well condition teams. When you say he looked off balance, to me he was just getting out-muscled. He's still relatively young so time on his side to bulk up. McElhone to me is the most dangerous option - fast and direct. Was the liveliest forward on the field when he came on against Dublin. I see the temptation in holding him as an impact sub, but its a tough call that.
The problem Tyrone will have is that they don't have those big physical forwards, like Clifford, who can win their own ball, take men on and score off both feet. Matty Donnelly is probably the closest they have to that type of player, but he won't get 6/7 points a game. Not many teams do have that player to be fair, but Kerry have a huge advantage in terms of forwards available to them compared to Tyrone.
The way to limit them, will be to stop the supply - so once again kickouts will be key and possession in the middle 8 area vital. Tyrone have big men in the middle but given how Kerry performed against the Armagh kickouts and Morgan's dip in form, I'd say they will struggle.
If anything, I feel like McCurry has been more consistent than he used to be in his earlier days. Don't think he's past his best either.
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 01, 2025, 10:59:49 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on July 01, 2025, 09:45:04 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on July 01, 2025, 12:02:26 AMI said it on the other thread but surely Darragh Canavan and McCurry will be better the next day too.
Canavan especially looked like he was off balance ALL the time.
If they can get the spread of scorers going...then who knows.
McCurry is hot and cold at the best of times, probably passed his best. Generally reliable from frees if you take last weekends game out of it. Canavan has skill to burn, but I think he's too small against these bigger well condition teams. When you say he looked off balance, to me he was just getting out-muscled. He's still relatively young so time on his side to bulk up. McElhone to me is the most dangerous option - fast and direct. Was the liveliest forward on the field when he came on against Dublin. I see the temptation in holding him as an impact sub, but its a tough call that.
The problem Tyrone will have is that they don't have those big physical forwards, like Clifford, who can win their own ball, take men on and score off both feet. Matty Donnelly is probably the closest they have to that type of player, but he won't get 6/7 points a game. Not many teams do have that player to be fair, but Kerry have a huge advantage in terms of forwards available to them compared to Tyrone.
The way to limit them, will be to stop the supply - so once again kickouts will be key and possession in the middle 8 area vital. Tyrone have big men in the middle but given how Kerry performed against the Armagh kickouts and Morgan's dip in form, I'd say they will struggle.
If anything, I feel like McCurry has been more consistent than he used to be in his earlier days. Don't think he's past his best either.
I would agree. He has been very reliable all year, if it wasnt for him we would have been hammered by Armagh. One poor game all year doesnt mean you are blowing hot and cold.
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 30, 2025, 11:06:58 PMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 30, 2025, 10:25:39 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 30, 2025, 10:04:53 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on June 30, 2025, 08:26:54 PMQuote from: blanketattack on June 30, 2025, 12:27:24 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 30, 2025, 09:18:38 AMKerry will shit the togs at the site of the tyrone jerseys as usual
Kerry have won 4 of the last 5 Championship meetings between the sides, but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
I find, even as a Tyrone man, this narrative strange. Maybe it's that Kerry haven't won Sam after beating Tyrone (1986 aside?), whereas Tyrone have always beat Kerry along the way to winning Sam. Kerry have usually inflicted the bigger defeats, aside from 2003, Tyrone have always deserved the win, but it was never by much.
I do think it odd that Kerry have won so many medals, yet there's more than a few like Spillane that have never got over the pettiness, even after giving us a few good baitings and even now, him bringing up conspiracy theories again about 2021... While beating Kerry is always that bit nicer and losing is that bit worse, I can't remember any Tyrone pundits, fans etc. reacting similarly when we've been beat.
It drives Kerry crazy and Jack O'Connor said so in his book: Jack of all Trades.. "Losing to Tyrone is worse than losing to almost anyone else. Not that there's much history between us. That's the point. There's an arrogance to northern football which rubs Kerry people up the wrong way. They're flash and nouveau riche and full of it."
That 'puke football' rhetoric from Spillane and still going on bout 2021 Covid. Like get over it.
Paul Galvan cried after beating Tyrone in Trallee he was so hurt by losing to them. Is like one championship victory over them just does their heads in. Hopefully...
I agree on Spillane, he's always banging on with that shite but he's totally irrelevant in Kerry these days. Blame the Indo for giving him a platform. I never listen to him and neither do most people down here.
For most Kerry people the thing in the 2000s with Tyrone was annoying but honestly, doesn't grate massively as 2003 we were well beaten and it was actually no harm as it lead to a change of the guard. 2005 final was a good enough battle but the better team won. 2008 final would be an annoying one for us alright as I do think we had the tools to win that but the team selection and tactics were poor, gave away an awful goal and just didn't perform well enough on that day.
All that being said now, it's very satisfying to beat Tyrone but that's because they're a serious football county and the way things are going I can see them being a huge force in next few years.
Fair enough but not all the rhetoric quite as generous. When Kerry beat Tyrone two years ago, Tómas on RTÉ and Marc on GAAGO asked did Tyrone have Covid-19. It came across as so petty and begrudging of 2021. For the record Kerry aceeded to the request to put the game back in 2021, they didn't have to. But since try to tarnish that All Ireland...
If you knew how much Tyrone people worshipped the Kerry team of that era '75 to '86 and them patting us on the head! Changed times...
I think Spillane in the 1980s made a joke that maybe Tyrone should send their women to Kerry to distract them to stand a chance of beating them.
There's a whole litany of incidents, but the main Kerry gripe seems to be that Tyrone absolutely dominated in 2003 and didn't lie down, or let Kerry restore the natural order in the rest of the 00s. The gripe with 2021 is crazy as it's well established the impact Covid had on Tyrone (one player losing several stone, most of squad unable to train and plenty of very honest interviews from the camp), as if this was an advantage. Kerry could have taken the walkover, but they apparently needed the practice for the final, but Tyrone weren't supposed to win.
Tyrone have relished beating Kerry and maybe fancied their chances going into some games, but I can't remember anything like the pettiness that comes out of Kerry when we get beat by them (which again is more often than not, and worse beatings than we give them).
Kerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 12:44:06 PMKerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Didn't see that in real time and haven't seen a replay, thought he had hit his head off the ground to be honest.
Was McCambridge taken out of it off the ball early in the first half? He was down for a bit and got up and was complaining to the umpires.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 12:44:06 PMKerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Burns was a huge loss, had a great season. Any footage exist of this?
Kerry are indeed holier than thou.
I thought it looked like a knee drop in real time. Was expecting a replay to see what really happened but they didn't do one and it didn't show the incident on the Sunday game. If it was a head clash to the ground fair enough but it was certainly a very nasty one either way.
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 01:28:53 PMI thought it looked like a knee drop in real time. Was expecting a replay to see what really happened but they didn't do one and it didn't show the incident on the Sunday game. If it was a head clash to the ground fair enough but it was certainly a very nasty one either way.
3 Kerry men around Burns then, but don't think they were trying to injure him. Was surprised when saw the blood.
That incident did coincide with the start of Kerry's dominance though. Was it Crealey missed a handy one around same time to go 6 up and the game changed utterly then.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 01, 2025, 01:54:26 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 01:28:53 PMI thought it looked like a knee drop in real time. Was expecting a replay to see what really happened but they didn't do one and it didn't show the incident on the Sunday game. If it was a head clash to the ground fair enough but it was certainly a very nasty one either way.
3 Kerry men around Burns then, but don't think they were trying to injure him. Was surprised when saw the blood.
That incident did coincide with the start of Kerry's dominance though. Was it Crealey missed a handy one around same time to go 6 up and the game changed utterly then.
same here. Think them not showing it again on the big screen may have been because of the blood?
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 01:06:21 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 12:44:06 PMKerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Didn't see that in real time and haven't seen a replay, thought he had hit his head off the ground to be honest.
Was McCambridge taken out of it off the ball early in the first half? He was down for a bit and got up and was complaining to the umpires.
Burns was fouled and fell face first into the ground, that's what caused the cut. Ignore the Thrones trying to draw you into their web!
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 01, 2025, 03:41:40 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 01:06:21 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 12:44:06 PMKerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Didn't see that in real time and haven't seen a replay, thought he had hit his head off the ground to be honest.
Was McCambridge taken out of it off the ball early in the first half? He was down for a bit and got up and was complaining to the umpires.
Burns was fouled and fell face first into the ground, that's what caused the cut. Ignore the Thrones trying to draw you into their web!
Not sure how falling face first into a wet soft ground splits your head open lol. Dont know what exactly happened but clearly he hit something hard.
Its all academic given Kerry will give Tyrone an unmerciful walloping.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 01, 2025, 03:52:57 PMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 01, 2025, 03:41:40 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 01:06:21 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 12:44:06 PMKerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Didn't see that in real time and haven't seen a replay, thought he had hit his head off the ground to be honest.
Was McCambridge taken out of it off the ball early in the first half? He was down for a bit and got up and was complaining to the umpires.
Burns was fouled and fell face first into the ground, that's what caused the cut. Ignore the Thrones trying to draw you into their web!
Not sure how falling face first into a wet soft ground splits your head open lol. Dont know what exactly happened but clearly he hit something hard.
Wet, soft ground? Clearly you've never set foot on Croke park or spoke to anyone who has. It's pretty much a 4G pitch now.
And it was 25c and boiling at pitch side on Sunday.
Tyrone have a very good chance against Kerry. Jack O'Connor can't rely on emotion arising from "being written off" in this game or any potential final. We know Tyrone are able to get at David Clifford and surely they'll have a plan for Paudie. The conspiracy theories coming out of Kerry after the 2021 semifinal were hilarious. In terms of the Armagh match, I've never seen Kerry celebrate a quarterfinal like it was an All-Ireland before.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 01, 2025, 07:23:16 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on July 01, 2025, 03:52:57 PMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 01, 2025, 03:41:40 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 01:06:21 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on July 01, 2025, 12:44:06 PMKerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.
No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.
Didn't see that in real time and haven't seen a replay, thought he had hit his head off the ground to be honest.
Was McCambridge taken out of it off the ball early in the first half? He was down for a bit and got up and was complaining to the umpires.
Burns was fouled and fell face first into the ground, that's what caused the cut. Ignore the Thrones trying to draw you into their web!
Not sure how falling face first into a wet soft ground splits your head open lol. Dont know what exactly happened but clearly he hit something hard.
Wet, soft ground? Clearly you've never set foot on Croke park or spoke to anyone who has. It's pretty much a 4G pitch now.
And it was 25c and boiling at pitch side on Sunday.
I doubt he got cut hitting the grass but there was nothing untoward about it
Quote from: greatpoint on July 01, 2025, 08:16:26 PMTyrone have a very good chance against Kerry. Jack O'Connor can't rely on emotion arising from "being written off" in this game or any potential final. We know Tyrone are able to get at David Clifford and surely they'll have a plan for Paudie. The conspiracy theories coming out of Kerry after the 2021 semifinal were hilarious. In terms of the Armagh match, I've never seen Kerry celebrate a quarterfinal like it was an All-Ireland before.
It's hard to know. If this championship has taught us anything, there's no sure things or certain winners.
Everyone fancied Armagh as the best team in the land, until Kerry beat them quite easily. I think Tyrone can improve a lot from what they've shown, but I'm not sure it will be enough in this game, or if we are a year or two away.
We were humiliated in 2023 so hopefully that spurs the team on and we see some players stand up, who have yet to like Devlin or Daly.
Kerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2025, 10:07:57 PMKerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.
We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 10:20:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2025, 10:07:57 PMKerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.
We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply.
He's playing a Div 2 team, could get messy
Quote from: JoG2 on July 01, 2025, 10:38:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 10:20:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2025, 10:07:57 PMKerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.
We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply.
He's playing a Div 2 team, could get messy
Coming from Derry that's priceless after the last 18 months :D
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 01, 2025, 10:52:50 PMQuote from: JoG2 on July 01, 2025, 10:38:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 10:20:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2025, 10:07:57 PMKerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.
We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply.
He's playing a Div 2 team, could get messy
Coming from Derry that's priceless after the last 18 months :D
You'll have to look a little closer to home re the post above
Quote from: JoG2 on July 01, 2025, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 01, 2025, 10:52:50 PMQuote from: JoG2 on July 01, 2025, 10:38:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 10:20:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2025, 10:07:57 PMKerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.
We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply.
;)
He's playing a Div 2 team, could get messy
Coming from Derry that's priceless after the last 18 months :D
You'll have to look a little closer to home re the post above
Quote from: JoG2 on July 01, 2025, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 01, 2025, 10:52:50 PMQuote from: JoG2 on July 01, 2025, 10:38:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 01, 2025, 10:20:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2025, 10:07:57 PMKerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.
If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.
Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.
I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.
We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply.
He's playing a Div 2 team, could get messy
Coming from Derry that's priceless after the last 18 months :D
You'll have to look a little closer to home re the post above
Are you blaming Tyrone?! : ) happy to take the credit for that 8)
Better than the Donegal statement ;)
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Did Malachy type that out himself? Or did he get one of the childer to do it? :D
Tyrone are waiting in the long grass for sure, and Tyrone seem to be the one county that know how to rattle Kerry in recent history, but you have to feel if Kerry reproduce that Armagh display they will have too much for them.
They even gifted Armagh a goal (the corner back ran away from the ball on the short kickout for Armaghs goal, very odd, something you would not see at u-14 level). Again I get people might say Armagh were not at their best but to score 14 points in a row (only 2 of which were 2 pointers) against the reigning champions at QF stage takes some doing.
Prediction: Kerry 3-21 2-18 Tyrone
Tyrones injury problems are arguably worse than Kerrys.
McKernan and Meyler are either not fit or lack March sharpness.
Id expect a heroic desperate display from Tyrone[maybe shading it at halftime] with Kerry winning comfortably in the end.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
Quote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 01:11:24 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
You do know this was a a piss take?
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 01:11:24 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
You do know this was a a piss take?
How did you work that one out?
The joke would work better if it came from a county that hadn't recently done exactly what they're taking the piss out of.
Quote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 04:18:37 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 01:11:24 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
You do know this was a a piss take?
How did you work that one out?
The joke would work better if it came from a county that hadn't recently done exactly what they're taking the piss out of.
Ok, we best refer this one to the joke police so. I'll let you fill out the paperwork.
Quote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 04:18:37 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 01:11:24 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
You do know this was a a piss take?
How did you work that one out?
The joke would work better if it came from a county that hadn't recently done exactly what they're taking the piss out of.
As U20 All Ireland champions, an All Ireland minor final on Sunday and All Ireland senior semi-final next week, here we are being slagged off by some lad from... Carlow :D :D :D
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 02, 2025, 09:05:56 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 04:18:37 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 01:11:24 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
You do know this was a a piss take?
How did you work that one out?
The joke would work better if it came from a county that hadn't recently done exactly what they're taking the piss out of.
As U20 All Ireland champions, an All Ireland minor final on Sunday and All Ireland senior semi-final next week, here we are being slagged off by some lad from... Carlow :D :D :D
What do underage fixtures have to do with anything? Are you really that insecure?
Taking the piss about playing the victim rings hollow when yous famously played the victim a few years ago. That's all there is to it.
Rewatched the 2021 game.
McNamee was roasted by Clifford but still played ok.
Meyler kept the Clifford brother on the back foot.
McKenna was relatively quiet but still the big moment player.
Sludden's accuracy from footpassing was brilliant.
McShane shone as a sub.
Forgot we'd 2 black cards that day (Sludden and McCurry)
For us to have a chance, we need a few men to become the new Sluddens, McShanes and McKennas.
Might be a bit early. Those lads were a right few years on the road.
Quote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 10:23:10 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 02, 2025, 09:05:56 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 04:18:37 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 02:13:08 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 02, 2025, 01:11:24 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2025, 12:18:05 AMBetter than the Donegal statement ;)
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Tyrone did the exact opposite of "just getting on with it" in 2021 in fairness
You do know this was a a piss take?
How did you work that one out?
The joke would work better if it came from a county that hadn't recently done exactly what they're taking the piss out of.
As U20 All Ireland champions, an All Ireland minor final on Sunday and All Ireland senior semi-final next week, here we are being slagged off by some lad from... Carlow :D :D :D
What do underage fixtures have to do with anything? Are you really that insecure?
Taking the piss about playing the victim rings hollow when yous famously played the victim a few years ago. That's all there is to it.
Does Carlow even have a team? 🤣😂😅
Is like being punched by a dwarf...
At least there a bit of life on the forum unlike boring old farts Tyone County forum.
Mind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
They are still convinced to this day. The rumour was that Stephen O'Neill poisoned a bottle of water carried it around all game with him while avoiding giving it to any Tyrone player only to wait on a Kerry player to come and ask him for a drink. Even writing it sounds mad never mind believing it.
The Kerry fans put a pic on reddit from the game which supposedly showed the bottle of poisoned water- I am not kidding. https://www.reddit.com/r/GAA/comments/cqoy14/stephen_obrien_drinking_water_from_a_tyrone_maor/
Can't see a thread on this... Real pity to see Joel Kerr not playing in the minor final. I imagine he's a huge loss to Tyrone.
Also I don't recall the madness above. That is nuts ;D .
Its a pity that Joel is going to miss the final but he has bigger days ahead of him.
I remember the poison water carry on.....it was crazy that it was being but out there at the time.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 04, 2025, 12:28:18 PMCan't see a thread on this... Real pity to see Joel Kerr not playing in the minor final. I imagine he's a huge loss to Tyrone.
Also I don't recall the madness above. That is nuts ;D .
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Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
Fair few unhinged things I've seen over the years during Kerry v Tyrone games. Dodgy water bottles wouldn't feature in the top 10. 😬
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 04, 2025, 11:52:47 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
Fair few unhinged things I've seen over the years during Kerry v Tyrone games. Dodgy water bottles wouldn't feature in the top 10. 😬
Go on give us the top 10 for a laugh.
Quote from: reddgnhand on July 05, 2025, 09:34:25 AMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 04, 2025, 11:52:47 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
Fair few unhinged things I've seen over the years during Kerry v Tyrone games. Dodgy water bottles wouldn't feature in the top 10. 😬
Go on give us the top 10 for a laugh.
That would require some thought and debate!
Off the top of my head - Deranged Kerry fan jumping out of the Lower Hogan to try to take on Paidi during the 2003 semi or just after the final whistle has to be up there.
Ricey having a shouting match through the fence with a Kerry fan in Killarney in 2012 during the Tyrone warmup. Thought he was genuinely going to jump the fence at one stage.
Those 2 certainly near top of the charts but plenty more.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 06, 2025, 11:43:02 PMQuote from: reddgnhand on July 05, 2025, 09:34:25 AMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 04, 2025, 11:52:47 PMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
Fair few unhinged things I've seen over the years during Kerry v Tyrone games. Dodgy water bottles wouldn't feature in the top 10. 😬
Go on give us the top 10 for a laugh.
That would require some thought and debate!
Off the top of my head - Deranged Kerry fan jumping out of the Lower Hogan to try to take on Paidi during the 2003 semi or just after the final whistle has to be up there.
Ricey having a shouting match through the fence with a Kerry fan in Killarney in 2012 during the Tyrone warmup. Thought he was genuinely going to jump the fence at one stage.
Those 2 certainly near top of the charts but plenty more.
Pretty stanard though, not sure these are ahead of conspiracies that Tyrone were sending out a Maor Uiscce to poison Kerry plauyers?
Man says incident not in top ten
Man is asked to name top ten
Man names two
Im gonna go out on limb and say said allegation would be top ten
🤝
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 07, 2025, 12:04:21 AMMan says incident not in top ten
Man is asked to name top ten
Man names two
Im gonna go out on limb and say said allegation would be top ten
🤝
I am not having a debate with someone with that nonsensical username..
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 07, 2025, 12:10:42 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 07, 2025, 12:04:21 AMMan says incident not in top ten
Man is asked to name top ten
Man names two
Im gonna go out on limb and say said allegation would be top ten
🤝
I am not having a debate with someone with that nonsensical username..
To be fair, he wasn't the one who you were having the initial debate with. The Kerry lads are completely unhinged when it comes to playing any Ulster team but in particular Tyrone. Off the top of my head there's the puke football comments by Spillane, Noveau Riche comments by O'Connor, poisongate, tears by Galvin in Killarney, accusations of poking Gooch's eyes in 08, conspiracy theories on COVIDgate. Even today, fellas on Twitter accusing Tyrone of using underhand tricks regarding Joel Kerr and blaming the ref for the loss. Add these to your two incidents and the top 9 or 10 consists mainly of Kerry being unhinged when it comes to Tyrone and to be honest, Ricey shouting at a fan barely is an incident.
I can see a Tadgh Kennelly moment from Kerry, they are very good at big mistimed hits.
Tyrone doctor might be busy
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 07, 2025, 12:29:10 AMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 07, 2025, 12:10:42 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 07, 2025, 12:04:21 AMMan says incident not in top ten
Man is asked to name top ten
Man names two
Im gonna go out on limb and say said allegation would be top ten
🤝
I am not having a debate with someone with that nonsensical username..
To be fair, he wasn't the one who you were having the initial debate with. The Kerry lads are completely unhinged when it comes to playing any Ulster team but in particular Tyrone. Off the top of my head there's the puke football comments by Spillane, Noveau Riche comments by O'Connor, poisongate, tears by Galvin in Killarney, accusations of poking Gooch's eyes in 08, conspiracy theories on COVIDgate. Even today, fellas on Twitter accusing Tyrone of using underhand tricks regarding Joel Kerr and blaming the ref for the loss. Add these to your two incidents and the top 9 or 10 consists mainly of Kerry being unhinged when it comes to Tyrone and to be honest, Ricey shouting at a fan barely is an incident.
Can we include Dromid supporters calling the Joe Duffy Show to complain when they lost to Derrytresk? 😆
Four wins for Kerry in the last five championship meetings, a better recent record for Kerry than their underage teams against Tyrone in championship football.
21 July 2012 Kerry 1-16 Tyrone 1-6 - Fitzgerald Stadium All Ireland qualifier round 3
23 August 2015 Kerry 0-18 Tyrone 1-11 - Croke Park All Ireland semi-final
11 August 2019 Kerry 1-18 Tyrone 0-18 - Croke Park All Ireland semi-final
28 August 2021 Tyrone 3-14 Kerry 0-22 - Croke Park All Ireland semi-final
1 July 2023 Kerry 2-18 Tyrone 0-12 - Croke Park All Quarter-final
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 07, 2025, 01:31:31 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 07, 2025, 12:29:10 AMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 07, 2025, 12:10:42 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 07, 2025, 12:04:21 AMMan says incident not in top ten
Man is asked to name top ten
Man names two
Im gonna go out on limb and say said allegation would be top ten
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I am not having a debate with someone with that nonsensical username..
To be fair, he wasn't the one who you were having the initial debate with. The Kerry lads are completely unhinged when it comes to playing any Ulster team but in particular Tyrone. Off the top of my head there's the puke football comments by Spillane, Noveau Riche comments by O'Connor, poisongate, tears by Galvin in Killarney, accusations of poking Gooch's eyes in 08, conspiracy theories on COVIDgate. Even today, fellas on Twitter accusing Tyrone of using underhand tricks regarding Joel Kerr and blaming the ref for the loss. Add these to your two incidents and the top 9 or 10 consists mainly of Kerry being unhinged when it comes to Tyrone and to be honest, Ricey shouting at a fan barely is an incident.
Can we include Dromid supporters calling the Joe Duffy Show to complain when they lost to Derrytresk? 😆
The conspiracy theory that the picture of Declan O'Sullivan punching someone was photoshopped. Ballinaman from this board gave that a lot of legs. "I am a physiotherapist and I consulted with a team of other physiotherapists and we have concluded that his arm couldn't possibly get into that position naturally so it is definitely photoshopped." People completely lost the run of themselves.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 07, 2025, 12:10:42 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 07, 2025, 12:04:21 AMMan says incident not in top ten
Man is asked to name top ten
Man names two
Im gonna go out on limb and say said allegation would be top ten
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I am not having a debate with someone with that nonsensical username..
I didn't want you to
I was just giving commentary.
We still need 8 more btw
Does anyone know what quit yo jibbajabba is in Irish pls. I need more credibility
Tyrone Kerry Top 10 wtf moments
1 Tyrone elect to take a point from a penalty in 86 final
2 Spillane - puke football - take your beating lad
3 Galvin crying after a qualifier win in 2012
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5
6
7
8 Stephen ONeill waterbottlegate
9
10 Derrytresk trial by media cos Dromid couldn't take their beating
2008 sideline incident involving big guy in a suit at half time. Tyrone guys pushed him over on their way in, it happened just before Dara O Se had sneakily elbowed Cavanagh after 50/50.
Yellow card offence in those days.
Kerry fan dressed as Michael Jackson in the Hill 2005?
Covidgate
Paidi Clifford AI Junior Final 2023
This was good! After Derrytresk match... Dr Crokes asking for segregation for their All Ireland final against Crossmaglen :D
Club Chairman Vincent Casey: ""We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other'.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-20181566.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWe%20would%20like%20to%20see%20the%20area,personnel%20having%20any%20access%20to%20the%20pitch.
Back to the here and now...25 degress this weekend. Who are the fitter team? Whose bench can be called upon earlier in the day?
This is literally heat of battle stuff on Sunday.
Cramping may play a role in last 15 like 2021...especially of course if heads for extra time
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 07, 2025, 11:40:49 AMBack to the here and now...25 degress this weekend. Who are the fitter team? Whose bench can be called upon earlier in the day?
This is literally heat of battle stuff on Sunday.
Would say kerry are the fitter side. Tyrone havent looked as fit as top teams since donnelly left coaching set up.
Clifford is a big unit for all his skill and you do see him tie up towards the end of some games. If Tyrone rely on the bench a bit more and go hell for leather earlier would that be an option?
From Tony Leen in the Examiner: Diarmuid O'Connor (shoulder) and Tom O'Sullivan (ankle) will miss Saturday's All-Ireland SFC semi final.
Quote from: tiempo on July 07, 2025, 09:28:13 AMTyrone Kerry Top 10 wtf moments
1 Tyrone elect to take a point from a penalty in 86 final
2 Spillane - puke football - take your beating lad
3 Galvin crying after a qualifier win in 2012
4
5
6
7
8 Stephen ONeill waterbottlegate
9
10 Derrytresk trial by media cos Dromid couldn't take their beating
4 the deliberate targeting by Tyrone of Darren O Sullivan in 2004 minor final. A derrytresk man Cathal ONeill got booked funny enough. A wild challenge on him well after ball was gone. He was fouled by almost every Tyrone player and they literally took turns.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 07, 2025, 06:00:25 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 07, 2025, 09:28:13 AMTyrone Kerry Top 10 wtf moments
1 Tyrone elect to take a point from a penalty in 86 final
2 Spillane - puke football - take your beating lad
3 Galvin crying after a qualifier win in 2012
4
5
6
7
8 Stephen ONeill waterbottlegate
9
10 Derrytresk trial by media cos Dromid couldn't take their beating
4 the deliberate targeting by Tyrone of Darren O Sullivan in 2004 minor final. A derrytresk man Cathal ONeill got booked funny enough. A wild challenge on him well after ball was gone. He was fouled by almost every Tyrone player and they literally took turns.
This should be filed in the Sour Grapes folder, under the subsection of things that Kerry whinge about after losing to Tyrone. It will fit in nicely beside puke football and Gooch getting his eye poked.
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 07, 2025, 07:47:34 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 07, 2025, 06:00:25 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 07, 2025, 09:28:13 AMTyrone Kerry Top 10 wtf moments
1 Tyrone elect to take a point from a penalty in 86 final
2 Spillane - puke football - take your beating lad
3 Galvin crying after a qualifier win in 2012
4
5
6
7
8 Stephen ONeill waterbottlegate
9
10 Derrytresk trial by media cos Dromid couldn't take their beating
4 the deliberate targeting by Tyrone of Darren O Sullivan in 2004 minor final. A derrytresk man Cathal ONeill got booked funny enough. A wild challenge on him well after ball was gone. He was fouled by almost every Tyrone player and they literally took turns.
This should be filed in the Sour Grapes folder, under the subsection of things that Kerry whinge about after losing to Tyrone. It will fit in nicely beside puke football and Gooch getting his eye poked.
You can add this one.. fresh off the press..
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41664668.html#:~:text=Cork%20Crime-,Heartbroken%20Kerry%20boss%20Quillinan%20sore%20over%20late%20'no%2Dbrainer',had%20a%20late%20levelling%20opportunity.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 07, 2025, 06:00:25 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 07, 2025, 09:28:13 AMTyrone Kerry Top 10 wtf moments
1 Tyrone elect to take a point from a penalty in 86 final
2 Spillane - puke football - take your beating lad
3 Galvin crying after a qualifier win in 2012
4
5
6
7
8 Stephen ONeill waterbottlegate
9
10 Derrytresk trial by media cos Dromid couldn't take their beating
4 the deliberate targeting by Tyrone of Darren O Sullivan in 2004 minor final. A derrytresk man Cathal ONeill got booked funny enough. A wild challenge on him well after ball was gone. He was fouled by almost every Tyrone player and they literally took turns.
BREAKING: Star player is targeted in GAA match.
Some amount of crying from kerry gang pn social media over minor game Sunday.
That Tyrone "Team of the Decade" stuff really hurt them.
My money is on Tyrone to just about beat them, maybe in extra time with a lot of scoring.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 07, 2025, 04:46:43 PMFrom Tony Leen in the Examiner: Diarmuid O'Connor (shoulder) and Tom O'Sullivan (ankle) will miss Saturday's All-Ireland SFC semi final.
I heard that the Kerry lads are suggesting that Tyrone had a sniper in the trees down at Currans. He was targeting David Clifford who was marking O'Sullivan in backs v forwards. Clifford was too quick and he hit O'Sullivan's ankle instead. O'Connor apparently hurt his shoulder after being hit by a truck. The Kerry lads are claiming it was a McAleer and Rushe truck, lots of speculation as to why the truck was in the area but the driver drove off with his middle finger out the window.
Still wouldn't make top ten according to yer man
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 08, 2025, 12:21:47 PMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on July 07, 2025, 04:46:43 PMFrom Tony Leen in the Examiner: Diarmuid O'Connor (shoulder) and Tom O'Sullivan (ankle) will miss Saturday's All-Ireland SFC semi final.
I heard that the Kerry lads are suggesting that Tyrone had a sniper in the trees down at Currans. He was targeting David Clifford who was marking O'Sullivan in backs v forwards. Clifford was too quick and he hit O'Sullivan's ankle instead. O'Connor apparently hurt his shoulder after being hit by a truck. The Kerry lads are claiming it was a McAleer and Rushe truck, lots of speculation as to why the truck was in the area but the driver drove off with his middle finger out the window.
This Tyrone /Kerry rivalry is really turning nasty , so it is
Quote from: Dun Eile on July 08, 2025, 11:54:45 AMSome amount of crying from kerry gang pn social media over minor game Sunday.
Kerry butchered a goal chance to go six ahead from a bad kickout which would have been enough to get them over the line. Nobody to blame but themselves.
Irish news reporting that McKernan certain to miss the game on Sunday. Big miss as it looked like he might have played some part following Malachy's comments after the Dublin game.
Big miss considering his excellent form but oportunity for others to step up on big stage.
Interesting to see what will Tyrone do with McElholm. Id start him, has bags of energy and Kerry will likely setup expecting impact sub.
Tyrone have it all to do and MOR is going to have to gamble to some degree.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 08, 2025, 11:30:01 PMBig miss considering his excellent form but oportunity for others to step up on big stage.
Interesting to see what will Tyrone do with McElholm. Id start him, has bags of energy and Kerry will likely setup expecting impact sub.
Tyrone have it all to do and MOR is going to have to gamble to some degree.
Agree fully, they're going to have to fight fire with fire at some point, and starting McElholm would be a way of doing that - tricky decision because his impact late on could be huge too
The worry with that is Kerry pole axing Mcelholm early.
Canavan is not firing, McCurry was poor by his own standards last day.
Do you bench one of them and hope they'll have the character to come in later and blaze over a few?
McKernan is a huge blow, have to fancy Kerry by 5 or so.
If its as hot as forecast Paudie may lag towards end. A game that suits the young lads, ruairi canavan has had a frustrating year...the space created by new rules in Croker should really suit him.
Yep anyone is pole-axeable, I'm sure there'll be a few dunts on Kerry lads too - personally I'd hold McElholm in reserve but he needs a good 20mins to go at it, on a separate point I'd worry that Meyler hasn't the zip of old and expecting a similar impact so soon into his return could be costly
McKernan is a huge loss but as you say it presents an opportunity for others
I fully believe McCurry and Canavan will turn it on
Tyrone are going in as underdogs and would expect the mentality to be something in the order of an ambush, I don't think they need everything to go their way on the day but hanging in there might be needed at times, similar to 2021 I expect
Paudie has had fitness issues all year. Seanie O'Shea is back fit but is a big man to be running around in that heat. David Clifford suffers cramps a fair bit too.
Canavan and McCurry were both poor the last day and you'd imagine there will be a reaction. Plus, the dry ball will suit them better and there are more nippy forwards on the bench.
The closer we get I think it'll be very close, or go the opposite way and Kerry will pull away early and it'll be game over. The closer it is in the final quarter I think Tyrone could do it.
I think Tyrone will edge it.
Be hard for Kerry to bring the same fire they brought V Armagh in my opinion.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 09:44:42 AMThe worry with that is Kerry pole axing Mcelholm early.
Canavan is not firing, McCurry was poor by his own standards last day.
Do you bench one of them and hope they'll have the character to come in later and blaze over a few?
McKernan is a huge blow, have to fancy Kerry by 5 or so.
If its as hot as forecast Paudie may lag towards end. A game that suits the young lads, ruairi canavan has had a frustrating year...the space created by new rules in Croker should really suit him.
Would bench Darragh and start mcelhom. McCurry had one off day all year, he has proven time and time again hes a class act and can turn it on from off the bench.
Darragh has been poor for majority of the year. Benching him and showing he cant live off his name might ignite a fire within him.
Bradley is lively and is back from injury. Definitely worth at least 20 mins from the bench.
Tyrone need direct running at the kerry defence and not this current hand passing around the half way line. Quick early ball into mcelhom and mccurry will have kerry on the back foot. Throw in a few long balls by rotating a few big men in the square and tyrone will edge it.
I said this the last day at the game. Some people looked at me as if id 2 heads. McCurry has more credit in the bank this year in comparison to Darragh. Surprised when they took mccurry off
"Following his nine-point tally against Dublin, Darren McCurry has become Tyrone's second highest scorer of all time with a massive 14-495 to his name, moving ahead of Sean Cavanagh, who racked up up 28-451 in a glittering career. In the number one spot is Peter Canavan. Thanks to Eunan Lindsay for flagging up Darren's accomplishment"
From "we are Tyrone" FB page.
Incredible stat and a player who is well respected but doesn't get huge hype. Maybe down to personality. Just goes about his business. Still a few years in him so that record will stand a long time.
Has Darragh not been carrying an injury? Someone mentioned he was in a boot before warm up in last game.
In my view, if you're benching DC, you're giving up any chance. It'll take him, MxCurry and Donnelly to be flying to give us a chance. While his form may have dipped, him and McCurry are still our main hope for scores. Without him I don't give us a chance.
Irish Times Darragh Ó Sé: Kerry and Donegal have shown a different gear and should be too strong for Tyrone and Meath:
After all the excitement in the run-up to the quarter-finals, there's a different feel about the semi-finals. Those games clarified a few things and changed the picture. Before the quarter-finals weekend, more or less everyone was saying that any one of six teams could win the All-Ireland. I think that number is probably down to two now – Kerry and Donegal.
Without dismissing Tyrone and Meath, I just think that what Donegal and Kerry produced the last day was so far clear of anything any other team has been capable of in this championship. Both teams clicked into a gear that nobody else has shown. They might not reproduce it but we know they have it. We don't know that about Meath or Tyrone.
Let's take the Saturday game first. The one thing that won't be a factor here is history. The Tyrone thing doesn't matter to the current Kerry players the way it did to our generation. I'd say if you asked Sean O'Shea about it, he'd take a look at you as if to say, "Listen now, I have enough problems of my own without worrying about the hang-ups of washed-up old Kerry players."
He'd be 100 per cent right, too. Time moves on. Tyrone have moved on too. This is a different type of team from the ones they used to produce. Their personalities are different. One the one hand, they're not as cynical or as cute with the dark arts. On the other, they're not as free-flowing or as filled with quality either.
If they're going to beat Kerry, they have to dominate midfield. They have Brian Kennedy and Conn Kilpatrick in there and not only are they huge men but they aren't one bit shy about using their size. With the way the game is now around the kick-outs, those two should be an incredible weapon for Tyrone.
But Armagh had plenty of big men around the middle too. Mark O'Shea and Sean O'Brian came of age for Kerry the last day and Joe O'Connor put in one of those games he's been putting in all year.
That's what I mean about the quarter-finals changing the picture. Before that, I would have been worried about how the Kerry midfield would cope against the likes of Niall Grimley, Ben Crealey and Rian O'Neill. They've shown now they can hold their own. It doesn't mean they'll be able to do it again against Kennedy and Kilpatrick but they can break even at least.
That might be all they need to do. Because when I look around the rest of the pitch, I think Kerry can dominate this game physically in the same way they did two years ago. Go through Tyrone's best forwards – the two Canavans, Darren McCurry, young McElholm who came off the bench the last day. What's the common factor? They're all small men.
I know they won't all be on the pitch at the same time and that Tyrone have the likes of Peter Harte and Mattie Donnelly to bulk out the forward line. But when it comes right down to it, I think size is going to matter here.
If Kerry do their job out the field, Tyrone have no outlet that they can pump the ball up to and expect him to win it by himself. They don't have a David Clifford or a Michael Murphy. They don't have a Seánie Shea or an Oisin Gallen. You'd take Darragh Canavan and Darren McCurry ahead of most players in the country in terms of skill on the ball. But they have to get on the ball first.
Add it all up and I expect Kerry to have enough. Tyrone needed two-pointers to stay in touch with Dublin in the first half the last day – are they really going to be able to keep that sort of accuracy going from distance? They haven't been scoring goals and Kerry haven't been conceding them. Is that going to change here? I make Kery strong enough favourites.
I make Donegal even stronger ones, in all honesty. It's funny, the previews to all of Meath's games this year probably said the same sort of thing. Fair play to them, they're a team on the up, Robbie Brennan has got a great tune out of them – but they won't be winning this. And still they went out and beat Dublin, Kerry, Cork and Galway.
So will we learn our lesson? Sure, why start now?
There's a hint of the Cork v Dublin hurling semi-final about this. Donegal won't be running in seven goals but they will be every bit as relentless in wearing Meath down. Unless Meath have some sort of magic potion, I expect it will all just be too much for them.
What really struck me about Donegal against Monaghan was how much they looked to be enjoying Croke Park. You could see in that second half that they were at home there, that it was the place they had been aiming to get to all year. This was the weekend they had circled on the calendar – we're going to be there, boys, and we're going to make mincemeat out of whoever is waiting for us.
On the flipside, Meath came to Croke Park the last day looking to right a wrong. They felt they had left the Leinster final behind them by coughing up so many goals to Louth so they were coming back to Croke Park to make amends. And there's nothing wrong with that – but it tells you they're a team at a different stage in their journey than Donegal are.
Meath have some great players and you go through some of their lesser known names and they can seriously play ball. Jordan Morris is obviously their go-to player but the likes of Ciaran Cualfield and Ruairi Kinsella and Matthew Costello have really jumped out this season. I just think Donegal are operating at a level above.
They'll be looking to feast on Morris in particular. That lovely dummy bounce he has might get him past the odd defender against Donegal but it won't get him through on goal. Beat the first man and there'll be another right there waiting. Meath will be full of energy and we know they don't lack courage. But Donegal didn't come all this way to slip up against a Division Two team.
I expect Donegal to do a professional job here and that they'll go through along with Kerry.
But I've been wrong before.
20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.
In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.
And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2025, 12:58:28 PM20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.
In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.
And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.
That 15-20min spell could be kerrys undoing. People are forgetting that kerry were getting beat for majority of that match. While that spell was fantastic aramgh did absolutely nothing to stop it. They kept trying the same tactic.
O'se questions if tyrone can kick a few 2 pointers like they did against Dublin. Obvious question should have been can kerry score 14 points out of 14 attacks again.
I said before that the kerry game defensively armagh werent great. Would say tyrones defense will be better than Armaghs.
Forewarned is forearmed. Morgan will have done a ton of strategising for various scenarios.
Maybe that "goalkeeper kicking to themselves tactic" could have let armagh stymie one or two kickouts.
Must be very disappointing for McGeeney.
QuoteTheir personalities are different. One the one hand, they're not as cynical or as cute with the dark arts. On the other, they're not as free-flowing or as filled with quality either.
He seems to leave out the exact same could be said about the Kerry team. Neither team is as strong as their noughties equivalent imo.
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 01:35:15 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2025, 12:58:28 PM20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.
In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.
And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.
That 15-20min spell could be kerrys undoing. People are forgetting that kerry were getting beat for majority of that match. While that spell was fantastic aramgh did absolutely nothing to stop it. They kept trying the same tactic.
O'se questions if tyrone can kick a few 2 pointers like they did against Dublin. Obvious question should have been can kerry score 14 points out of 14 attacks again.
I said before that the kerry game defensively armagh werent great. Would say tyrones defense will be better than Armaghs.
Good point. Kerry were very accurate in that spell , but even if they only kicked 0-8 in that time , they would only have been 3 ahead. And the game. Still there for Armagh, who would have been going for points, and not goals like they did
I can't see Tyrone giving Kerry as much time on the ball like Armagh did
Kerry could win this by 10+ but I just have this strange feeling Tyrone are going to win this
Congrats to all you WUM merchants, you have ruined what could have been a decent discussion.
idiots. Go back to Hogan Stand
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 01:38:07 PMForewarned is forearmed. Morgan will have done a ton of strategising for various scenarios.
Maybe that goalkeeper kicking to themselves could have let armagh stymie one or two kickouts.
Must be very disappointing for McGeeney.
Kerry won't ambush the Tyrone kickout the way they did with Armagh's. Forewarned is forearmed as you say. The worry is that Armagh completely picked off Morgan's kickouts in the Ulster semi. Morgan's kickouts ain't that great either. The keeper's job is nearly impossible at this point.
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2025, 02:01:13 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 01:38:07 PMForewarned is forearmed. Morgan will have done a ton of strategising for various scenarios.
Maybe that goalkeeper kicking to themselves could have let armagh stymie one or two kickouts.
Must be very disappointing for McGeeney.
Kerry won't ambush the Tyrone kickout the way they did with Armagh's. Forewarned is forearmed as you say. The worry is that Armagh completely picked off Morgan's kickouts in the Ulster semi. Morgan's kickouts ain't that great either. The keeper's job is nearly impossible at this point.
You're screwed as a keeper. Keep seeing people say Armagh persisted with the same tactic but I'd genuinely like to know what else they could have done? Sure they could have slowed the game more but in terms of kickouts what else could be done?
Humped the absolute fcuk out of it down the middle.
Morgan's kickouts were a disaster against Dublin - but they still managed to win.
I thought Tyrone were poor against Dublin until that last 10-15mins, and I thought Dublin were poor throughout.
Tyrone's main players are still the older guys, Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly and McGeary - if Kerry get on top of them out the field and break even around the MF area the supply won't be there regardless of what combination of forwards Tyrone play.
However, if the 3 mentioned above get on top and can last the full game, then Tyrone are in with a shout.
Kerry have been inconsistent all year, but can switch it on and have the forwards who are more capable of winning their own battles than Tyrone do - on that point I agree with O'Se. But if in this game Kerry don't play at their best, then can be caught because the same applies to them in that if there is no supply going forward they will struggle for scores.
I think Kerry have the defenders to go man-to-man on DC and McCurry, not sure Tyrone can say the same about Seanie O'Shea or Cliffords.
For me, Tyrone's best chance is to run at the Kerry defence - which takes a lot of energy especially in the hot weather.
I don't think there'll be a huge gap between them, but in general I think Kerry have better players in more positions and so will likely win by 5 or 6.
Hampsey has always done a good job on David Clifford.
Seanie O'Shea turned it on against Armagh but they didn't seem to mark him at all. He got a free run at it.
I've heard from multiple outlets now: "If Kerry play at their best, no one will beat them."
GAA Statsman on the Kerry Tyrone teams so far this year
https://x.com/gaelicstatsman/status/1942920094906012135?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Hope all the Lambegs are ready to welcome kerry to Hill16(90)
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 01:35:15 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2025, 12:58:28 PM20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.
In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.
And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.
That 15-20min spell could be kerrys undoing. People are forgetting that kerry were getting beat for majority of that match. While that spell was fantastic aramgh did absolutely nothing to stop it. They kept trying the same tactic.
O'se questions if tyrone can kick a few 2 pointers like they did against Dublin. Obvious question should have been can kerry score 14 points out of 14 attacks again.
I said before that the kerry game defensively armagh werent great. Would say tyrones defense will be better than Armaghs.
What game were you watching? Kerry lead from the start up to Grugans goal after 29mins. Then went back in front no more than 3 mins later. McElroy put Armagh 1 up with the last kick of the half.
From 43rd minute when Clifford kicked a 2 pointer to finish Kerry,led all the way. Armagh were ahead for a sum total of around 9/10 minutes.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.
Wow. That's unhinged.
It was holy water from Glenhull
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 10:57:42 AMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 09:44:42 AMThe worry with that is Kerry pole axing Mcelholm early.
Canavan is not firing, McCurry was poor by his own standards last day.
Do you bench one of them and hope they'll have the character to come in later and blaze over a few?
McKernan is a huge blow, have to fancy Kerry by 5 or so.
If its as hot as forecast Paudie may lag towards end. A game that suits the young lads, ruairi canavan has had a frustrating year...the space created by new rules in Croker should really suit him.
Would bench Darragh and start mcelhom. McCurry had one off day all year, he has proven time and time again hes a class act and can turn it on from off the bench.
Darragh has been poor for majority of the year. Benching him and showing he cant live off his name might ignite a fire within him.
Bradley is lively and is back from injury. Definitely worth at least 20 mins from the bench.
Tyrone need direct running at the kerry defence and not this current hand passing around the half way line. Quick early ball into mcelhom and mccurry will have kerry on the back foot. Throw in a few long balls by rotating a few big men in the square and tyrone will edge it.
I don't see how you can say Darragh has been poor and Bradley has been lively. Bradley seems to get credit from Tyrone fans for doing very little. And Canavan is not starting because of his name he was brilliant in 23 and 24 for us in a rudderless ship and had good league performances when he came back this year (Galway Dublin) got injured before the Cavan game. Even in his poor games he's good for a few points from play and is our main goal threat by far.
There's loads more All Irelands in this Kerry team, they just need that one this year to kickstart it.
And there are no traditional counties to stop them remaining this year, Meath have some depth of tradition but they not a recently tested team in this cauldron.
Clifford & Co could/should end up with say 6 All Irelands, Kerry go way over 40 in the roll of honour.
And then another generation comes through like the great minor players we all saw in Newbridge last Sunday.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 09, 2025, 02:30:47 PMMorgan's kickouts were a disaster against Dublin - but they still managed to win.
I thought Tyrone were poor against Dublin until that last 10-15mins, and I thought Dublin were poor throughout.
Tyrone's main players are still the older guys, Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly and McGeary - if Kerry get on top of them out the field and break even around the MF area the supply won't be there regardless of what combination of forwards Tyrone play.
However, if the 3 mentioned above get on top and can last the full game, then Tyrone are in with a shout.
Kerry have been inconsistent all year, but can switch it on and have the forwards who are more capable of winning their own battles than Tyrone do - on that point I agree with O'Se. But if in this game Kerry don't play at their best, then can be caught because the same applies to them in that if there is no supply going forward they will struggle for scores.
I think Kerry have the defenders to go man-to-man on DC and McCurry, not sure Tyrone can say the same about Seanie O'Shea or Cliffords.
For me, Tyrone's best chance is to run at the Kerry defence - which takes a lot of energy especially in the hot weather.
I don't think there'll be a huge gap between them, but in general I think Kerry have better players in more positions and so will likely win by 5 or 6.
Tyrone scored 0-10 from their own kickout against Dublin and only conceded 0-02
About as far from a disaster as you can get
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 09, 2025, 08:51:56 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on July 09, 2025, 02:30:47 PMMorgan's kickouts were a disaster against Dublin - but they still managed to win.
I thought Tyrone were poor against Dublin until that last 10-15mins, and I thought Dublin were poor throughout.
Tyrone's main players are still the older guys, Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly and McGeary - if Kerry get on top of them out the field and break even around the MF area the supply won't be there regardless of what combination of forwards Tyrone play.
However, if the 3 mentioned above get on top and can last the full game, then Tyrone are in with a shout.
Kerry have been inconsistent all year, but can switch it on and have the forwards who are more capable of winning their own battles than Tyrone do - on that point I agree with O'Se. But if in this game Kerry don't play at their best, then can be caught because the same applies to them in that if there is no supply going forward they will struggle for scores.
I think Kerry have the defenders to go man-to-man on DC and McCurry, not sure Tyrone can say the same about Seanie O'Shea or Cliffords.
For me, Tyrone's best chance is to run at the Kerry defence - which takes a lot of energy especially in the hot weather.
I don't think there'll be a huge gap between them, but in general I think Kerry have better players in more positions and so will likely win by 5 or 6.
Tyrone scored 0-10 from their own kickout against Dublin and only conceded 0-02
About as far from a disaster as you can get
How many wides and shots were dropped short after Dublin won a Tyrone kick out? Kerry are less likely to be wasteful when given opportunities.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 09, 2025, 07:42:32 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 01:35:15 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2025, 12:58:28 PM20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.
In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.
And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.
That 15-20min spell could be kerrys undoing. People are forgetting that kerry were getting beat for majority of that match. While that spell was fantastic aramgh did absolutely nothing to stop it. They kept trying the same tactic.
O'se questions if tyrone can kick a few 2 pointers like they did against Dublin. Obvious question should have been can kerry score 14 points out of 14 attacks again.
I said before that the kerry game defensively armagh werent great. Would say tyrones defense will be better than Armaghs.
What game were you watching? Kerry lead from the start up to Grugans goal after 29mins. Then went back in front no more than 3 mins later. McElroy put Armagh 1 up with the last kick of the half.
From 43rd minute when Clifford kicked a 2 pointer to finish Kerry,led all the way. Armagh were ahead for a sum total of around 9/10 minutes.
Point was kerry were hardly dominating armagh until that 15min spell. Armagh led in 29 min, kerry pulled it back but then Armagh went in front before half time until kerry drew level in the 45min when they got 14 points in 14 shots
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 09, 2025, 08:48:06 PMThere's loads more All Irelands in this Kerry team, they just need that one this year to kickstart it.
And there are no traditional counties to stop them remaining this year, Meath have some depth of tradition but they not a recently tested team in this cauldron.
Clifford & Co could/should end up with say 6 All Irelands, Kerry go way over 40 in the roll of honour.
And then another generation comes through like the great minor players we all saw in Newbridge last Sunday.
For Clifford to get 6, Kerry would have to win 5 out of the next 8 or 9. Just can't see it with Tyrone and Meath starting to come good again. He'll probably get 3 and that won't be bad considering Kerry have only won 2 out of the last 15 titles.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 09, 2025, 08:48:06 PMThere's loads more All Irelands in this Kerry team, they just need that one this year to kickstart it.
And there are no traditional counties to stop them remaining this year, Meath have some depth of tradition but they not a recently tested team in this cauldron.
Clifford & Co could/should end up with say 6 All Irelands, Kerry go way over 40 in the roll of honour.
And then another generation comes through like the great minor players we all saw in Newbridge last Sunday.
I thought 2022 was suppose it be the kick start. All the hype and all the potential, it must irk Kerry fans that the dynasty of this decade has been that other Munster county: Limerick.
I admire your optimism, however the clock is ticking. If Kerry fall short again this year... As for the near future, based on the youth competitions, it's Tyrone, not Kerry.
Regarding the upcoming SF, Kerry has earned the high expectations after beating Armagh easily, however prior to last Sunday the Kerrymen had not won a championship game outside of Munster this year. Can they now win 3 in a row? If they can lose to Meath then the potential is there to lose to any of the remaining counties.
Kerry manager Jack O'Connor says "it's going to take some performance" from his side to defeat Tyrone in Saturday's crunch All-Ireland semi-final at Croke Park.
"We are facing into a highly dangerous game, I'd never underestimate Tyrone. I've good reason not to. If you look at some of the results they've had, there are not too many teams who go to Ballybofey and win,"
"We've found that, even in the league, it's traditionally a very tough place to go. Donegal take you to Ballybofey for a reason, because they see it as a fortress.
"That would have done an awful lot for Tyrone's confidence to go to Ballybofey and win, and any day you beat Dublin in Croke Park is a big day.
"They'll be very confident, and I'd say they'll privately be delighted that there was a lot of noise over the Kerry-Armagh game. It's almost like their win over Dublin has gone in under the radar.
"That's good for them, so we'll have a lot of work to do. It's a highly dangerous game, and it's going to take some performance to win it."
Wheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:37:27 PMWheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
O connell school car park
Quote from: In hiding on July 10, 2025, 01:55:50 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:37:27 PMWheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
O connell school car park
Is it likely to fill up early in the day?
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:56:23 PMQuote from: In hiding on July 10, 2025, 01:55:50 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:37:27 PMWheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
O connell school car park
Is it likely to fill up early in the day?
If you're there an hour before then you should be fine...
I'd guess
The heat and humidity is getting up already.
Going to be very hot in Croker, if you remember 2021 the water breaks were in effect.
If same happens again could interrupt a Kerry hot streak...at least Tyrone would hope.
Quote from: In hiding on July 10, 2025, 02:05:15 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:56:23 PMQuote from: In hiding on July 10, 2025, 01:55:50 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:37:27 PMWheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
O connell school car park
Is it likely to fill up early in the day?
If you're there an hour before then you should be fine...
I'd guess
I would doubt you would get in there an hour before Tyrone Game. Maybe an hour before first game..
Home Farm hard to beat €10, bit of a dander but you are out and away
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:37:27 PMWheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
Try Na Fianna club house. Think they charge a tenner.
Quote from: Deerstalker on July 10, 2025, 03:15:54 PMHome Farm hard to beat €10, bit of a dander but you are out and away
I'll be headed here, served me well in the past
Quote from: In hiding on July 10, 2025, 02:05:15 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:56:23 PMQuote from: In hiding on July 10, 2025, 01:55:50 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2025, 01:37:27 PMWheres a good parking spot now for the Davin stand? Haven't been in it in a good few years and I think the entrance is across the canal?
O connell school car park
Is it likely to fill up early in the day?
If you're there an hour before then you should be fine...
I'd guess
Walked past it the last day and the guy at the entrance said it was full an hour before the Donegal/Monaghan game.
Is the train into Drumcondra an option for Ulster teams? From the likes of Dunboyne/Enfield?
How about the airport bus? Would this be a good option to avoid traffic jams around Drumcondra? And would this provide a good head start for the journey home again?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 10, 2025, 07:12:39 PMIs the train into Drumcondra an option for Ulster teams? From the likes of Dunboyne/Enfield?
How about the airport bus? Would this be a good option to avoid traffic jams around Drumcondra? And would this provide a good head start for the journey home again?
Do what Michael O'Leary did and buy a taxi licence. :)
Straight on to the bus/taxi lane.
1 change to Kerry team, Mike Breen comes in at 6, Gavin White to 7 in place of Tom O'Sullivan.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvhIstAWQAAT3AY?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 10, 2025, 08:37:02 PM1 change to Kerry team, Mike Breen comes in at 6, Gavin White to 7 in place of Tom O'Sullivan.
Micheal Burns in for Mark O'Shea too.
I thought Michael Burns contribution was somewhat overlooked, after being introduced in the 2nd half v Armagh. He was overshadowed by Sean O'Sheas performance and the return of Paudie Clifford but I felt he really laid down a marker when he was brought on.
Quote from: ardtole on July 10, 2025, 09:16:59 PMI thought Michael Burns contribution was somewhat overlooked, after being introduced in the 2nd half v Armagh. He was overshadowed by Sean O'Sheas performance and the return of Paudie Clifford but I felt he really laid down a marker when he was brought on.
You're right. His best game for Kerry since minor days.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 10, 2025, 07:12:39 PMIs the train into Drumcondra an option for Ulster teams? From the likes of Dunboyne/Enfield?
Dunboyne just off the M3.
There's a massive car park at the Station there.
Too awkward for most of ye I'd imagine, but Maynooth usually has a train every half hour but hard to find parking (unless you have in laws there 😁)
Quote from: ardtole on July 10, 2025, 09:16:59 PMI thought Michael Burns contribution was somewhat overlooked, after being introduced in the 2nd half v Armagh. He was overshadowed by Sean O'Sheas performance and the return of Paudie Clifford but I felt he really laid down a marker when he was brought on.
+1
He played a significant role in the Kerry gear shift.
QuoteQuoteIs the train into Drumcondra an option for Ulster teams? From the likes of Dunboyne/Enfield?
Dunboyne just off the M3.
There's a massive car park at the Station there.
Too awkward for most of ye I'd imagine, but Maynooth usually has a train every half hour but hard to find parking (unless you have in laws there 😁)
I see
Northside seems to be the worst served in terms of transport. South and West well served with Park&Ride at Luas /train stops.
Any word on that Dart extention to Drogheda?
Or the underground thingymajig from the city to Dublin airport?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 10, 2025, 10:10:26 PMQuoteQuoteIs the train into Drumcondra an option for Ulster teams? From the likes of Dunboyne/Enfield?
Dunboyne just off the M3.
There's a massive car park at the Station there.
Too awkward for most of ye I'd imagine, but Maynooth usually has a train every half hour but hard to find parking (unless you have in laws there 😁)
I see
Northside seems to be the worst served in terms of transport. South and West well served with Park&Ride at Luas /train stops.
Any word on that Dart extention to Drogheda?
Or the underground thingymajig from the city to Dublin airport?
They won't be ready for the weekend anyway.
Just wondering does anyone know if they open the gates inside in the stands after the game still. So you can walk from lower Cusack all the way around to the lower Hogan without having to go all the way around the streets.
Ive defintitely done it once before but was wondering if it is still a thing?
You can walk freely though all stands upper and lower. Was able to move from upper Davin to lower hogan after the doengal v monaghan game in QFs.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 11, 2025, 10:38:29 AMYou can walk freely though all stands upper and lower. Was able to move from upper Davin to lower hogan after the doengal v monaghan game in QFs.
I think it maybe depends on the attendance though? I've definitely seen them closed when there's a full house, like a final. Suppose it's to prevent everyone congregating at one end.
McKernan on subs list. Keep Kerry guessing. Only for use in extremis. Last 10 Tyrone within 5pt of Kerry?
Quote from: cjx on July 11, 2025, 12:50:36 PMMcKernan on subs list. Keep Kerry guessing. Only for use in extremis. Last 10 Tyrone within 5pt of Kerry?
Bring him on to tag Paudie Clifford when he makes an entrance.
The way he came off against Cavan I knew he'd be out for season. A shame given his form.
And don't forget the Lambegs for Hill 16(90) tomorrow. (Ireespective of Moygashel any and all possible advantages required)
Quote from: cjx on July 11, 2025, 02:27:31 PMAnd don't forget the Lambegs for Hill 16(90) tomorrow. (Ireespective of Moygashel any and all possible advantages required)
Would Dungannon be your team if you were a GAA fan in Moygashel?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 11, 2025, 03:11:20 PMQuote from: cjx on July 11, 2025, 02:27:31 PMAnd don't forget the Lambegs for Hill 16(90) tomorrow. (Ireespective of Moygashel any and all possible advantages required)
Would Dungannon be your team if you were a GAA fan in Moygashel?
You'd be amazed it might! Given too Morgan played across the road for a couple of years and that is where he got many of his goalkeeping skils, in my view.
I bought 3 adult tickets and 2 kids tickets off ticketmaster. There's now another kids who wants to go. Having problems buying a single juvenile ticket. Are you allowed to buy a single juvenile ticket or does it have to be bought alongside an adult ticket?
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 11, 2025, 05:40:22 PMI bought 3 adult tickets and 2 kids tickets off ticketmaster. There's now another kids who wants to go. Having problems buying a single juvenile ticket. Are you allowed to buy a single juvenile ticket or does it have to be bought alongside an adult ticket?
Similar thing happened to me a few years back. But was able to buy a single kids ticket a couple rows in front of ours, so worked out ok. Unless things have changed since then
Regarding McKernans injury if its a Grade 1 injury then a 1-2 week recovery.
Grade 2 is 6 weeks. So we can deduce its G1 and I'm a bit more optimistic.
Speculation he could've played against Dublin may have been true but opted for caution.
You definitely could go from cusack to hogan at the Armagh Kerry game.
Good luck tomorrow to all you Tyrone fans and safe travels
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 11, 2025, 06:40:44 PMRegarding McKernans injury if its a Grade 1 injury then a 1-2 week recovery.
Grade 2 is 6 weeks. So we can deduce its G1 and I'm a bit more optimistic.
Speculation he could've played against Dublin may have been true but opted for caution.
Still think it is more about adding to Kerry's queries about what to do next rather than a big input from McKernan.
Still, if the fat is in the fire no braver man to come to save the day.
McKernan has easily been the best Tyrone player since 2020/21 along with Brian Kennedy.
An absolute injustice that he has no All Star.
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 11, 2025, 05:40:22 PMI bought 3 adult tickets and 2 kids tickets off ticketmaster. There's now another kids who wants to go. Having problems buying a single juvenile ticket. Are you allowed to buy a single juvenile ticket or does it have to be bought alongside an adult ticket?
I had no problem buying single juvenile tickets for the Armagh v Dublin game last month.
Hes fit to play and will feature, otherwise wouldn't be wasting space on bench
Quote from: onefineday on July 11, 2025, 11:38:52 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on July 11, 2025, 05:40:22 PMI bought 3 adult tickets and 2 kids tickets off ticketmaster. There's now another kids who wants to go. Having problems buying a single juvenile ticket. Are you allowed to buy a single juvenile ticket or does it have to be bought alongside an adult ticket?
I had no problem buying single juvenile tickets for the Armagh v Dublin game last month.
I got sorted out thankfully, everytime I went to order a single one it gave me an error message but when changing the option to an adult plus juvenile it would give me the option to buy.
Even had a Kerry man from here offer me a ticket, reaching out the hand of friendship haha. Hopefully the football is as good as the weather tomorrow. Roads will be slightly less manic compared to the QFs.
Mike Breen in for Tom O Sullivan. Breen had a brutal hamstring injury in '22 and it was playing up this year so don't be shocked if he hobbles off.
Tomas Kennedy may start I hear as well
I see Spillane is now sorry for talking down Tyrone in the noughties. He was hurt by 2003 he says and as such spoke as a Kerryman rather than an analyst. That was obvious at the time. Set the tone for too many Kerry people regarding Tyrone though. Tomas O'Se and his crass Covid joke in 2023 and all the post minor final moaners about the ref were only carrying on the tradition. A disappointment when you grew up with reverence for Kerry football. Ger O'Keefe stands out for me for speaking with class and dignity in defeat in 2005. Kerry could do with more like him.
Unfortunately I do think Kerry will have too much for Tyrone today. There are questions still about all four of the semi finalists and as such hard to be sure what's ahead but from a Tyrone point of view the team still hasn't quite clicked. That's understandable given it was a rudderless ship for three years - the new management was always going to need team to put order to it while also introducing new players (and amid unique times with new rules). There have been plenty of signs that Tyrone are making progress, but also a very poor performance against Mayo and a very mixed showing against the Dubs even in victory. The Armagh game was also up and down so we're really putting a lot on winning in Donegal, which was excellent (and manner of it in particular) but makes for a rather thin body of evidence.
Kerry have also been mixed and their body of evidence really comes from the Armagh game - but it was a powerful piece of evidence. Hard not to feel they are a bit further down the line as a team than Tyrone right now and I do believe they will win.
But we live in hope. Safe travels to all.
Anything that starts with Pat Spillane says...
Here he is last year
This brings me to Tyrone and their behaviour in 2021 when they refused to fulfil their All-Ireland semi-final against Kerry because of a Covid outbreak in the squad.
Essentially, they hood-winked the GAA and Kerry because I've never seen any conclusive proof of the extent of that outbreak.
Tyrone pulled a stroke; they succeeded in having the semi-final delayed and then went on to win the All-Ireland.
And people thought it was a bad thing when the blowhard left the Sunday Game.
If Pat saw the medical records hed say they were doctored.
You have to admire Kerrys greed for Celtic crosses, probably explains why they have so many.
Good luck to all heading to the game! Will be there tomorrow ☀️ interested in seeing how players and fans get on in the heat this eve, only thing I'm not looking forward to tomorrow!
McElholm starts. Good luck to him, very exciting to watch let's hope Tagdh Kennelly isnt lurking.
Two changes for Tyrone. Eoin McElholm,Ben McDonnell in and out Peter Harte,Shea O'Hare
M O'Shea and P Clifford starting for Kerry.
Kerry:
Shane Ryan
Paul Murphy, Jason Foley, Dylan Casey
Brian O Beaglaoich, Mike Breen, Gavin White;
Sean O'Brien, Joe O'Connor;
Mark O'Shea Sean O'Shea, Graham O'Sullivan;
David Clifford,Paudie Clifford, ,Dylan Geaney.
Subs: Shane Murphy, Killian Spillane, Evan Looney, Armin Heinrich, Tom Leo O'Sullivan, Micheal Burns,Conor Geaney, Tomas Kennedy, Tadhg Morley, Paul Geaney, Tony Brosnan.
Tyrone:
Niall Morgan
Cormac Quinn, Padraig Hampsey, Niall Devlin
Peter Teague, Ben McDonnell, Kieran McGeary;
Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick;
Sean O'Donnell, Eoin McElholm, Ciaran Daly;
Darren McCurry, Mattie Donnelly, Darragh Canavan.
Subs: Oisin O'Kane, Aidan Clarke, Michael Rafferty, Frank Burns, Michael McKernan,, Michael O'Neill, Conor Meyler, Mark Bradley, Ruairi Canavan.Shea O'Hare,Peter Harte
Would expect Kerry to win handy. Tyrone bar 2021 no win against Kerry since 2008. I believe Kerry are having the players meet and greeting in Killarney Monday night organised
That a sign of confidence.
Tyrone really poor all year. Relegated in league and no better in championship
Malachy O'Rourke is a overrated as manager. Can't see getting better of Jack O'Connor.
Got Kerry at 7/1 with Ladbrokes before Cavan game. Lumped 2k.
Looking forward to a Kerry v Donegal final in two weeks.
Fair play to O Rourke. He has to gamble and go for it, Tyrone look like they're going to attack early.
Ben McDonnell has struggled to establish himself as a starter but a great baller.
Lets hope for no controversies but plenty of hard fast football.
Tyrone formulae to win
1. Get key kerry men booked early
2. Goals goals goals
3. Attempt to win frees in 2pt zone and hope Morgan is on his game
4. Clatter Paudi Clifford
5. Say the Hail Mary's before the game and at half time
Not be much running game in that weather, need plenty of kick passing.
Take the point every single time McCurry...
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2025, 05:08:47 PMTake the point every single time McCurry...
Aye, optimistic from there but Tyrone going well.
McCurry just not playing well...same as Canavan
Good start for Tyrone as they lead 0-3 to 0-1 after 10 minutes.
Joe OConnor black card or yellow? Fairly decent goal chance
Either. He made a fair attempt to play the ball on replay.
I've thought all week Tyrone will win this.
By a point
The way McCurry is going he might not see half time*..
*Guaranteed he scores 1-04 now.
How a county man kick that wide from 20m out
McElholm looks electric today.
Only possession Kerry have got has come from one short kickout and some sloppy turnovers.
Another one from Kennedy there - both he and Kilpatrick were guilty of that in the QF. Needlessly trying to take lads on and getting bottled up.
Poor ball into mccurry not helping g
Hampsey well off the pace
That 2pt semi circle invites stupid shots
0-6 each after 20 minutes,
Jasis christ can we please keep possession. Rubbish pass by McGeary
Niblocks a hard listen too, switched over to RTE
Hampsey not same player all year very bad looking
Tyrone on top big time at Midfield on break ball, both teams left a easy 3pts apiece on the board. Foul on Kilpatrick there!
Thank f**k for that nasty smack from Daly. Now all the Tyrone ones can shut the f**k up about Murphy tomorrow.
McQuillan doing his usual.
G Kerrys regular keeper ain't that great on kickouts either.
Quote from: tyroneman on July 12, 2025, 05:26:53 PMMcQuillan doing his usual.
Not McQuillans fault we feel thr need to kick the ball away instead of keeping possession for a bit. It's our own fault kicking some of those passes
Awful miss, but Hampsey get ate alive here. Mile off the pace.
Plenty of goal chances gone to waste and now finally one taken by David Clifford. 1-7 to 0-8 Kerry lead.
Kerry goal coming for ages. Shouldn't swapped u man on Clifford 10mins ago.
Clifford took that well.
Seanie Odonnell got taken out I thought those were black cards?
Kerry should had 3/4 goals here.
Tyrone under P.
Another All Star for Morgan?
Unreal finish from Clifford. All came from an uncharacteristic bad decision from Donnelly to take a shot on.
Tyrone by far the better team for 28 mins and at risk of losing the game by half time.
Great save from Morgan.
People can say whoever they want is the best keeper but I've said it for years, Morgan is the most important keeper in the country bar none. We would be absolute rubbish without him
Tyrone lucky to be only 3 down. Need to get a couple of scores before this game gets away from them.
Kerry getting some handy frees.
Croke park on a breezy day, shots can go anywhere.
Wind should (should) help in 2nd half
Someone needs to take the mic off Eamon Fitzmaurice.
McGeary being an eejit once again.
Tyrone had several good goal chances they'll rue
U can see the Rugby in O'connor, big lad but exceptional strong on the ball.
Joe O'Connor tearing them apart. Surely hampsey has to be changed?
Morgan is superb.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 05:37:13 PMMcGeary being an eejit once again.
Tyrone had several good goal chances they'll rue
Daft tackle, having dropped an effort short just before. He's not been great.
Morgan saved 2 stonewall goals.
Half time Kerry 1-9 Tyrone 0-9
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2025, 05:35:26 PMPeople can say whoever they want is the best keeper but I've said it for years, Morgan is the most important keeper in the country bar none. We would be absolute rubbish without him
Bit severe that.. same could be said of Kerry without Clifford D.. ?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 05:38:45 PMMorgan saved 2 stonewall goals.
Held a couple of high balls dropping short under pressure as well.
Important score there for Tyrone but I feel they will need at least a couple of goals to win this.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 05:39:46 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2025, 05:35:26 PMPeople can say whoever they want is the best keeper but I've said it for years, Morgan is the most important keeper in the country bar none. We would be absolute rubbish without him
Bit severe that.. same could be said of Kerry without Clifford D.. ?
Yeah and he's rightfully called the best player in the county. Morgan is our most important player if not on par with Kennedy
Not a big pile you can do about Clifford, but Hampsey is getting rinsed. McCurry non existent, telephone call coming his way I'd say. Tyrone still well in it but you could see Kerry pulling away.
Tyrone should clocked up a 5pt lead early on, on top of Mattie maybe taking a goal chance. On the other side Kerry been through on goal 5 times, scored 1, Morgan saved 2 certs, made a balls of one and took a point with the other. Kerry got passengers on that team, but them so has Tyrone.
Hampsey getting cleaned out, Kennedy's been anonymous and McCurry looks off the pace. Lucky to be still in the game at h/t.
Both forward lines look like they could run up big scores but aren't. Tyrone should be happy enough they remain in the match and have potential to have a purple patch on kickouts to get a run on Kerry. But will they have any scorers to bring on to get enough to win this?
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 05:26:31 PMThank f**k for that nasty smack from Daly. Now all the Tyrone ones can shut the f**k up about Murphy tomorrow.
One smack vs every tackle murphy does lol
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2025, 05:40:42 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 05:39:46 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 12, 2025, 05:35:26 PMPeople can say whoever they want is the best keeper but I've said it for years, Morgan is the most important keeper in the country bar none. We would be absolute rubbish without him
Bit severe that.. same could be said of Kerry without Clifford D.. ?
Yeah and he's rightfully called the best player in the county. Morgan is our most important player if not on par with Kennedy
He is... Beggan same with Monaghan, Cluxton for years with Dublin.. it's his job 8)
I rate Kilpatrick but he has never seen a blind alley he doesn't want to run up.
They need a lot more from McCurry and probably canavan. McElholm faded a bit too but looks dangerous.
O'Connor seemingly remains spooked by defensive setups and that has Tyrone still in this
Stick Mark Bradley on for McCurry.
Switch Hampsey off clifford, bring on meyler. Move mccurry to a more inside role, move Canavan out to a more play maker role
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 05:14:02 PMJoe OConnor black card or yellow? Fairly decent goal chance
There was no one between the attacker and goalkeeper when he was fouled. Wasn't that the reason the black card was introduced into the game?
Time to abolish the black card. They've never been able to enforce it with any consistency.
Clifford got 1:05, could be on 2:10 with a bad wide and 2 2pters effort been caught by the keeper.
Yup it was a stone wall black card
Throw either big MF into the square now and then , give Kerry something to think about. Tyrone won't win this without at least 2 goals.
Seems like most teams don't even attempt this once in a match. Yes, it's a risk , but so are most kick outs now
Quote from: EoinW on July 12, 2025, 05:46:00 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 05:14:02 PMJoe OConnor black card or yellow? Fairly decent goal chance
There was no one between the attacker and goalkeeper when he was fouled. Wasn't that the reason the black card was introduced into the game?
Time to abolish the black card. They've never been able to enforce it with any consistency.
He got his shot off before the foul. Wasn't scoring anything without the ball.
The thuggish Tyrone team of the 00s would have solved the Clifford problem after 20 minutes.
Will breeze be a factor here?
Mark Bradley has done nothing all year, the odds of him coming in and replicating McCurry on form is u likely.
Peter Harte will be crucial now with breeze.
Id put R Canavan in ahead of Bradley due to him coming in last day and getting his
Some poor Tyrone misses but worse on kerry end, but Tyrone tighter than armagh. Have curbed O Se and Paudie a fair bit.
They need to pray for key kerry men going off with injury/ cards / cramp I feel to win.
Yeah, not sure Bradley is the player to turn to when three points down in an AISF. Agree as well he's done nothing this year.
As long as they dont start taking pot shots at 2 pointers they will run Kerry close.
You think Fitzmaurice is partisan until you hear Kavanagh. Tomás Ó Sé also only sees one team.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 05:52:20 PMMark Bradley has done nothing all year, the odds of him coming in and replicating McCurry on form is u likely.
Peter Harte will be crucial now with breeze.
Id put R Canavan in ahead of Bradley due to him coming in last day and getting his
Some poor Tyrone misses but worse on kerry end, but Tyrone tighter than armagh. Have curbed O Se and Paudie a fair bit.
They need to pray for key kerry men going off with injury/ cards / cramp I feel to win.
Not much of a strategy to win a game.
Hampsey needs moved off Clifford, Tyrone sloppy at times but wind should help them in 2nd half - yous are still well in it
Half time odds to win Kerry 1/2 Tyrone 13/5
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 12, 2025, 05:57:40 PMHalf time odds to win Kerry 1/2 Tyrone 13/5
Accurate enough I would think
Mindless free from Kilpatrick there. O'Shea going nowhere.
Christ, two serious let offs in the full back line already.
And a third...
McQuillan giving Tyrone nothing this half either
Couldn't trust Kilpatrick. He's liable to do that 5 times a game. He can get away with some things he does in club football but everyone is the same level as you at county
Kilpatrick so good at getting the ball - just not so good with it.
Kerry gonna rue these missed chances to keep the score board ticking over.
Kerry trying to kill them off going for goals
Darragh Canavan v David Clifford show in this contest so far.
Clifford skinning hampsey badly for pace. McElholm confidence has really dipped here.
Must be near 10 balls dropping short or hit the posts in this game. That lad Dylan G missed a f**king bagfull,
Kerry keeping Tyrone in this
Two goal chances for Kerry in less than minute and just 1 point from it. Kerry lead by 3 points 45 minutes played.
Kerry might regret these misses. Tyrone still in it.
That was a foul on the Kerry defender there.
McElholm started off brilliantly and has been brutal since. That's the second poor one he's dropped short.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2025, 06:09:07 PMClifford skinning hampsey badly for pace. McElholm confidence has really dipped here.
And strength. Bullying him.
From a match point if view it's close but there must 6 goals and 10+ points missed between the teams combined
What on earth was that from McDonnell. Tyrone can win this but so many of them seem utterly brainless at times
That lad O'connor doesn't seem the softest.
Game over
One of the only times Darragh has performed this year and everyone else playing like this
Poor Tyrone performance, yet this game is still there for the taking
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 06:12:39 PMWhat on earth was that from McDonnell. Tyrone can win this but so many of them seem utterly brainless at times
Absolutely braindead but he isn't the only one. We seem to have players that go for shots like that far too often. Kilpatrick and Kennedy have often done the same in the past
They'll give Clifford MOTM here if Kerry win but O'Connor been the best player on the pitch.
50 minutes played Kerry 1-16 Tyrone 0-13
Kilpatrick is gonna get lined
McKeirnan acting the w**k, and Kerry just putting the ball over the bar.
That 2pt semi circle a curse, encourages too many shots that are not on.
Mc Kernan is a muppet.
Got Clifford booked.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:19:41 PMThat 2pt semi circle a curse, encourages too many shots that are not on.
We've been guilty of that for years. Watch back on some games and Kennedy and Kilpatrick have been doing shots like that for ages
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:17:44 PMMcKeirnan acting the w**k, and Kerry just putting the ball over the bar.
Someone needs to get in Clifford's face 🤷
Hard to see a way back for Tyrone. Little cohesion in the forwards when they do attack and missing some scorable chances.
It's a poor enough game even allowing for the heat.
How about get in this face playing football and beating him to the ball.
Tyrone have hit 3no awful points effort, plus M Bradley 2pt effort.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 06:20:50 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:17:44 PMMcKeirnan acting the w**k, and Kerry just putting the ball over the bar.
Someone needs to get in Clifford's face 🤷
It'll not matter.
You think roughing him up will put him off?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:22:01 PMHow about get in this face playing football and beating him to the ball.
Like the Derry boys :D :D
Joe Mcquillan plays advantage and doesn't let the 2 pointer stand?
Quote from: marty34 on July 12, 2025, 06:24:14 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 06:20:50 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:17:44 PMMcKeirnan acting the w**k, and Kerry just putting the ball over the bar.
Someone needs to get in Clifford's face 🤷
It'll not matter.
You think roughing him up will put him off?
Seemed to work for Fitzsimmons in '23
Bad call by the ref there
Hahaha now McQuillan is invalidating a 2 pointer and bringing it back for a free
McQuillan been a disgrace here
Clearly blew the whistle ffs. No conspiracy there. McGeary was fouled, got the advantage and was fouled again.
Tyrone have been shocking.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 06:25:27 PMJoe Mcquillan plays advantage and doesn't let the 2 pointer stand?
He blew the whistle before the shot. Nothing he can do then.
And so the whinging starts. Grow up the lot of you.
Tyrone did well to stay in it but very poor this half. More their misses.
42 minutes played Kerry 1-11 Tyrone 0-13. Now 59 minutes played Kerry 1-19 Tyrone 0-13.
QuoteThat 2pt semi circle a curse, encourages too many shots that are not on.
It's a ballix of a thing
Quote from: clarshack on July 12, 2025, 06:27:08 PMTyrone have been shocking.
Shooting terrible in last 20 minutes. Kerry have taken some good points in the same period.
Nothing to do with his fitness, McKernan has been flat out awful since he came on.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 06:27:22 PMAnd so the whinging starts. Grow up the lot of you.
People are allowed to complain about the ref. Our players have been rubbish. No question. Can still have complaints about the officials. It isn't a dictatorship ffs
Tyrone have thrown in the towel, but Kerry have been v impressive, could be leading by more
Tyrone folk are probably around Drogheda by now
V poor decisions from Tyrone. Very flat in second half.
They've to score 9 points in 9 minutes to level the game and keep Kerry scoreless
Kerry just holding the ball to eat time.
Shame, as after 30 mins it was a cracking contest.
Kerry fixed their issues, Tyrone didn't.
O'Connor will have wrapped up his All Star I'd say.
Still a shit rule!
Kerry Joe
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 06:32:48 PMShame, as after 30 mins it was a cracking contest.
Kerry fixed their issues, Tyrone didn't.
O'Connor will have wrapped up his All Star I'd say.
Player of the year at this rate
Quote from: befair on July 12, 2025, 06:30:53 PMTyrone have thrown in the towel, but Kerry have been v impressive, could be leading by more
Kerry have quit as well. They were nowhere near their QF levels but didn't have to be. 13 points after 60 mins is a poor return under the new rules. Division 2 will do Tyrone no harm next season.
Tyrone are the 3rd best team in Ulster. No shame getting to an AI semi-final with that group.
A lot of Blue seats appearing.
Tyrone second half been as bad as Armaghs and that's saying something.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 06:31:34 PMV poor decisions from Tyrone. Very flat in second half.
They've to score 9 points in 9 minutes to level the game and keep Kerry scoreless
They do an awful lot of overcomplicating their attacking play only to settle for difficult one point efforts.
Its the legacy of being overcoached I think in the old system
This three small men up front not going work for Tyrone need look at a ball winner for next year.
Tyrone's first score for 22 minutes.
Christ, I honestly didn't know O'Donnell was still on the pitch. Is that his first touch this half?!
Well I didn't miss a minute of last year's semi finals. I gave up on this one with 20 minutes left.
Tell me how wonderful the new rules are again. I need to read it here for the millionth time.
O'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
Have Donegal a hope against that Kerry team either?
If they win tomorrow of course
Poor shooting and basic skills errors in forwards has cost Tyrone, that and Kerry being better than them.
Tyrone making it easy for Kerry though, running it and allowing Kerry time to set a packed defence.
Ref giving frees based on size now, was a free on Canavan but didn't give Clifford an obvious one minute before hand and the ref 20m from it.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 12, 2025, 06:36:19 PMHave Donegal a hope against that Kerry team either?
If they win tomorrow of course
If they mix up their running game with kicking game yes.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:37:59 PMRef giving frees based on size now, was a free on Canavan but didn't give Clifford an obvious one minute before hand and the ref 20m from it.
Clifford just leapt to the ground
Twisty Mickey on BBC just can't bring himself to give kerry credit. Non stop talk about Tyrone you'd think they were winning the way he was going on.
Bitter oul hoor
Donegal have a live two point threat with Thompson, Langan etc. Tyrone have been very gun shy here.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 12, 2025, 06:36:19 PMHave Donegal a hope against that Kerry team either?
If they win tomorrow of course
I think Donegal will beat this Kerry team. Tyrone didn't execute when they were well in the game. Donegal will be a lot tighter.
How many off the ball incidents has McKernan been involved in since came on pitch?
FT Kerry 1-20 Tyrone 0-17. Routine win for Kerry, Tyrone faded badly from the 42nd minute.
Sure that's all he has..a growler
Kerry got a few Passengers, Dylan Geaney not good, don't want hear anymore about Clifford not been the man, in All time greats!
6 points in it at the end, could have been 16. Kerry played consistently well this match.
Impressive again from Kerry but I thought Tyrone were very poor and will be disappointed
McKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on July 12, 2025, 06:40:04 PMTwisty Mickey on BBC just can't bring himself to give kerry credit. Non stop talk about Tyrone you'd think they were winning the way he was going on.
Bitter oul hoor
Is there anything to be said to get a co commentator from a county not involved? Switched between BBC and rte as both Eamon and Mickey hard listen too.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:46:27 PMMcKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.
Them Coalisland boys captaining their county to senior and U20 and minor All Ireland titles.. and their All Stars..
Did yis get a Tyrone manager for that Derry team yet? 8) :D
Five wins for Kerry in the last six championship meetings now against Tyrone and today they eased past Tyrone in a similar fashion to the 2023 All Ireland Quarter final and could easily have been 12 point winning margin had Kerry was more ruthless today.
Second half did not live up to the competitiveness of the 1st. Tyrone were in a good position at h/t with scoring end to come but went very flat. Deserved win for Kerry. Joe O'Connor has become such a powerhouse for Kerry. Built like a brick wall.
I thought Clifford doesn't do it in the big games...
Tyrone were shocking in the 2nd half. Kerry won as they liked for 2nd game in a row.
Division 2 will be a blessing for Tyrone, they need to get some of the young lads in. MOR could be doing doing the donkey work for the next Tyrone manager imo.
Tyrone needed to get a lead on them and had chances plus a ton of luck in first half to do it.
Better team won in the end, Tyrone blooding a fair few lads.
Bizarre to keep Peter Harte off so long, hes an inspirational figure
Quote from: laoislad on July 12, 2025, 06:51:24 PMI thought Clifford doesn't do it in the big games...
People still try their best to push that narrative. Hoping if they say it enough it'll maybe come true
Quote from: weareros on July 12, 2025, 06:50:57 PMSecond half did not live up to the competitiveness of the 1st. Tyrone were in a good position at h/t with scoring end to come but went very flat. Deserved win for Kerry. Joe O'Connor has become such a powerhouse for Kerry. Built like a brick wall.
Very competitive first half alright but Kerry had several goal chances in it as well. They could have scored six of them today and you'd not have been surprised.
Quote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
Sean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 12, 2025, 06:56:37 PMSean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
;D ;D
It'll be 5 years next year since Tyrone won an All-Ireland and that is frankly too long. These gaps need to be closed with narrower regularity.
Quote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2025, 06:57:36 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on July 12, 2025, 06:56:37 PMSean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
;D ;D
😂. Tyrone were very flat for most of the game, completely outplayed. It'll be very disappointing for them after investing heavily in an outside manager. They did well on kick outs in fairness.
Few things tyrone got wrong. Keeping Hampsey on Clifford when writing on the wall in first 25 min. Starting mcelhom, his speed should have been kept for last 35 mins. Very late bringing petey on.
Big year for orouke next year to implement his system on this tyrone team
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2025, 06:54:59 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
6 points to a Kerry team much further down the road. Maybe see where Tyrone where when O'Rourke took over. Very far from an All Ireland semi-final.. Went further than Armagh, Dublin, Mayo, Galway..
Poor today but overall improvement.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2025, 06:46:01 PMImpressive again from Kerry but I thought Tyrone were very poor and will be disappointed
Yes. They had the chances but looked listless in attack
Credit to Kerry the greater quality player shone through
Tyrone are average. For all the serious ££££ they're paying MOR, their year is
1) relegated from div1
2) lost ulster semi
3) 6 point hammering today.
Curtains for Morgan, harte, connelly,. Hampden, McGeary?
All well and good having 4ft tall forwards if rest of team is average.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2025, 06:54:59 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
I don't think they have as much quality as some think they have. They have some fantastic players but even in their starting team there are positions that are weak enough. I think an ai semi final is a good return for the current team.
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2025, 07:01:38 PMQuote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2025, 06:57:36 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on July 12, 2025, 06:56:37 PMSean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
;D ;D
😂. Tyrone were very flat for most of the game, completely outplayed. It'll be very disappointing for them after investing heavily in an outside manager. They did well on kick outs in fairness.
Speaking of outside managers, have yous boys found another Tyrone man yet? ££££
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2025, 06:58:40 PMIt'll be 5 years next year since Tyrone won an All-Ireland and that is frankly too long. These gaps need to be closed with narrower regularity.
For a team that has 4 in their history and put out of the championship to Roscommon last year not sure why you would think that.
Decent return for them getting to a semi final in mor first year. Finding a big target man and a few two point kickers would help them no end.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2025, 06:50:28 PMFive wins for Kerry in the last six championship meetings now against Tyrone and today they eased past Tyrone in a similar fashion to the 2023 All Ireland Quarter final and could easily have been 12 point winning margin had Kerry was more ruthless today.
Half the journalists when Kerry meet Tyrone again in the 2027 1/4 final:
"Kerry up against their bogey team again"
Quote from: blanketattack on July 12, 2025, 07:10:11 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2025, 06:50:28 PMFive wins for Kerry in the last six championship meetings now against Tyrone and today they eased past Tyrone in a similar fashion to the 2023 All Ireland Quarter final and could easily have been 12 point winning margin had Kerry was more ruthless today.
Half the journalists when Kerry meet Tyrone again in the 2027 1/4 final:
"Kerry up against their bogey team again"
No doubt such lazy analysis will be used.
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It'll be 5 years next year since Tyrone won an All-Ireland and that is frankly too long. These gaps need to be closed with narrower regularity.
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Oh the entitlement ;D ;D
Will Joe McQuillan be called Kerry Joe now? ;D
Quote from: 5times5times on July 12, 2025, 07:04:33 PMTyrone are average. For all the serious ££££ they're paying MOR, their year is
1) relegated from div1
2) lost ulster semi
3) 6 point hammering today.
Curtains for Morgan, harte, connelly,. Hampden, McGeary?
All well and good having 4ft tall forwards if rest of team is average.
You retiring the best keeper in Ireland? Connelly? Hampden? Wtf!
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:04:01 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2025, 06:54:59 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
6 points to a Kerry team much further down the road. Maybe see where Tyrone where when O'Rourke took over. Very far from an All Ireland semi-final.. Went further than Armagh, Dublin, Mayo, Galway..
Poor today but overall improvement.
Congratulations on that title. I doubt very much it means anything to the players, so if it means something to you, I'd suggest that tells us much more about you than the team.
Give over with the "only six points" narrative. As pointed out it could easily have been 16 if it wasn't for some brilliance from Morgan and uncharacteristic Kerry profligacy.
Tyrone are still in a great position and have a conveyor belt the envy of every other county. They've all the talent in the world and will be contending for years to come but there's a serious attitude problem that needs addressed if they're to get anywhere. The sort of brain dead decision making on show there today is like a steroid to the opposition. Just allows them to keep tapping over points while Tyrone implode. At one point where the game was there to be won, Kilpatrick made an inspirational catch and absolutely horsed a lad out of it. A free run in from about 50 yards out, Kerry backpedalling and they kicked it harmlessly wide. Kerry in particular have been shown over the years to panic and shit the bed in tight games but if you give them a 5 or 6 point lead and don't put any pressure on them on the scoreboard, they'll just coast home every time.
The likes of Kilpatrick and McKernan need to cut out the needless twattery as well. One day one of them will get the line and it'll be the difference between winning and losing.
Did Tyrone put too much store in beating Donegal in the group stages? It wasn't even a knockout game.
Saves them losing an All Ireland to Donegal tbf
QuoteWill Joe McQuillan be called Kerry Joe now? ;D
Strangely, the last image on RTE's montage post match was Joe with a big smile on his face. He was clearly very happy with the result
so yes, he's Kerry Joe now
Tyrone fortunate Kerry were wasteful with the goal chances.
I thought both managements use of their benches was very poor given the weather conditions, Kerry even worse than Tyrone.
It was clear as day that there were players on both sides whose race was run and who were out on their feet long before they were subbed off.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 07:19:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:04:01 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2025, 06:54:59 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
6 points to a Kerry team much further down the road. Maybe see where Tyrone where when O'Rourke took over. Very far from an All Ireland semi-final.. Went further than Armagh, Dublin, Mayo, Galway..
Poor today but overall improvement.
Congratulations on that title. I doubt very much it means anything to the players, so if it means something to you, I'd suggest that tells us much more about you than the team.
Give over with the "only six points" narrative. As pointed out it could easily have been 16 if it wasn't for some brilliance from Morgan and uncharacteristic Kerry profligacy.
Tyrone are still in a great position and have a conveyor belt the envy of every other county. They've all the talent in the world and will be contending for years to come but there's a serious attitude problem that needs addressed if they're to get anywhere. The sort of brain dead decision making on show there today is like a steroid to the opposition. Just allows them to keep tapping over points while Tyrone implode. At one point where the game was there to be won, Kilpatrick made an inspirational catch and absolutely horsed a lad out of it. A free run in from about 50 yards out, Kerry backpedalling and they kicked it harmlessly wide. Kerry in particular have been shown over the years to panic and shit the bed in tight games but if you give them a 5 or 6 point lead and don't put any pressure on them on the scoreboard, they'll just coast home every time.
The likes of Kilpatrick and McKernan need to cut out the needless twattery as well. One day one of them will get the line and it'll be the difference between winning and losing.
Jees! You're very worried about Tyrone football 😄
I'm sure when Kilpatrick and McKernan are shining their All Ireland medals they'll be thinking bout your 'twattery' advice. Maybe lend your expertise to Antrim county football the state of it.
Kilpatrick cost them a point with a blatant needless push inside 20m line.
McGeary needless foul on Joe Oconnor when he already had missed the shot.
Bradley lost control of ball in crucial moment.
So many mistakes.
There is a headless chicken aspect to this group that wasn't there with old Tyrone
By contrast Daly , McElholm showed up the experienced heads a touch.
All said Kerry easily could have won by 10+.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 09:44:42 AMThe worry with that is Kerry pole axing Mcelholm early.
Canavan is not firing, McCurry was poor by his own standards last day.
Do you bench one of them and hope they'll have the character to come in later and blaze over a few?
McKernan is a huge blow, have to fancy Kerry by 5 or so.
If its as hot as forecast Paudie may lag towards end. A game that suits the young lads, ruairi canavan has had a frustrating year...the space created by new rules in Croker should really suit him.
Easy money
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:25:14 PMJees! You're very worried about Tyrone football 😄
I'm sure when Kilpatrick and McKernan are shining their All Ireland medals they'll be thinking bout your 'twattery' advice. Maybe lend your expertise to Antrim county football the state of it.
Good one.
Quote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 07:21:13 PMDid Tyrone put too much store in beating Donegal in the group stages? It wasn't even a knockout game.
Fell into the same trap as Armagh by putting too much in beating Dublin in Croke Park who created as many chances as Kerry today however aren't a good team anymore.
Tyrone forwards lacked composure in the crucial 3rd quarter.
They will learn for this.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 07:19:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:04:01 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2025, 06:54:59 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
6 points to a Kerry team much further down the road. Maybe see where Tyrone where when O'Rourke took over. Very far from an All Ireland semi-final.. Went further than Armagh, Dublin, Mayo, Galway..
Poor today but overall improvement.
Congratulations on that title. I doubt very much it means anything to the players, so if it means something to you, I'd suggest that tells us much more about you than the team.
Give over with the "only six points" narrative. As pointed out it could easily have been 16 if it wasn't for some brilliance from Morgan and uncharacteristic Kerry profligacy.
Tyrone are still in a great position and have a conveyor belt the envy of every other county. They've all the talent in the world and will be contending for years to come but there's a serious attitude problem that needs addressed if they're to get anywhere. The sort of brain dead decision making on show there today is like a steroid to the opposition. Just allows them to keep tapping over points while Tyrone implode. At one point where the game was there to be won, Kilpatrick made an inspirational catch and absolutely horsed a lad out of it. A free run in from about 50 yards out, Kerry backpedalling and they kicked it harmlessly wide. Kerry in particular have been shown over the years to panic and shit the bed in tight games but if you give them a 5 or 6 point lead and don't put any pressure on them on the scoreboard, they'll just coast home every time.
The likes of Kilpatrick and McKernan need to cut out the needless twattery as well. One day one of them will get the line and it'll be the difference between winning and losing.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 07:19:44 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:04:01 PMQuote from: SouthDublinBro on July 12, 2025, 06:54:59 PMQuote from: greatpoint on July 12, 2025, 06:36:10 PMO'Rourke isn't exactly known for winning big games outside of Ulster in fairness
You're not wrong. You would think a better manager would have kept it closer with the quality Tyrone have.
6 points to a Kerry team much further down the road. Maybe see where Tyrone where when O'Rourke took over. Very far from an All Ireland semi-final.. Went further than Armagh, Dublin, Mayo, Galway..
Poor today but overall improvement.
Congratulations on that title. I doubt very much it means anything to the players, so if it means something to you, I'd suggest that tells us much more about you than the team.
Give over with the "only six points" narrative. As pointed out it could easily have been 16 if it wasn't for some brilliance from Morgan and uncharacteristic Kerry profligacy.
Tyrone are still in a great position and have a conveyor belt the envy of every other county. They've all the talent in the world and will be contending for years to come but there's a serious attitude problem that needs addressed if they're to get anywhere. The sort of brain dead decision making on show there today is like a steroid to the opposition. Just allows them to keep tapping over points while Tyrone implode. At one point where the game was there to be won, Kilpatrick made an inspirational catch and absolutely horsed a lad out of it. A free run in from about 50 yards out, Kerry backpedalling and they kicked it harmlessly wide. Kerry in particular have been shown over the years to panic and shit the bed in tight games but if you give them a 5 or 6 point lead and don't put any pressure on them on the scoreboard, they'll just coast home every time.
The likes of Kilpatrick and McKernan need to cut out the needless twattery as well. One day one of them will get the line and it'll be the difference between winning and losing.
Brilliant post.Am I the only Tyrone man that thinks our midfield is dreadful?
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 07:27:49 PMBy contrast Daly , McElholm showed up the experienced heads a touch.
He was full of errors.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 07:27:49 PMKilpatrick cost them a point with a blatant needless push inside 20m line.
McGeary needless foul on Joe Oconnor when he already had missed the shot.
Bradley lost control of ball in crucial moment.
So many mistakes.
There is a headless chicken aspect to this group that wasn't there with old Tyrone
By contrast Daly , McElholm showed up the experienced heads a touch.
All said Kerry easily could have won by 10+.
Harte and McKernan both went for shots on the left in plenty of space which were poor angles for left footed efforts. McElholm had a similar one in the first half. Bradley snatched at a two pointer that was never in his range to begin with. They, as well as Kerry in fairness, kicked an insane amount into the keeper's hands.
Ok, they had to chase the game most of the second half but the lack of composure was crazy.
McElholms first start in a county championship senior game for Tyrone I believe? Can be forgiven for some poor moments when those about him were doing worse when they should know better.
Kilpatrick has always been a sort of liability/ head the ball but at least he was fired up when he needed to be.
Quote from: reddgnhand on July 12, 2025, 07:37:00 PMAm I the only Tyrone man that thinks our midfield is dreadful?
If you took that from my post it wasn't my meaning ;D
I think both Kilpatrick and Kennedy
are capable of matching and beating any midfield in the country. The pair of them however are massively prone to brain farts all over the pitch. I don't think he did it today, but Kilpatrick usually absolutely balloons a long range effort high and wide. He has an almighty hoof on him but long range shooting has never been a strength of his. Compare him to someone like Fenton and the easier, midrange chances he always engineered for himself.
They're both horses of lads who needlessly get themselves and the team into trouble at times by trying to take on and beat lads from around their own 45. Think it was Kennedy in the Dublin game who rather than giving a handpass, instead turned infield and ran into three lads tackling him. Kilpatrick has a tendency to surge forward headlessly a bit inside the opponent's arc with just pure pace and power and either lose control or get bottled up.
And yes, shiny Celtic Cross sitting at home or not (he's still playing so I imagine he'd very much like to win another) Kilpatrick undeniably gets involved too much in the, at best, niggly and, at worst, dirty side of the game. He was the third man in with Clifford and McKernan while on a yellow card. Absolutely should have walked for what was, in reality, nothing more than handbags. Now apparently because I'm from Antrim that should make that untrue but maybe everyone with eyes can make up their own mind.
Quote from: Fogarty on July 12, 2025, 07:35:13 PMTyrone forwards lacked composure in the crucial 3rd quarter.
They will learn for this.
Tyrone's chances not helped today with their top scorer in this championship Darren McCurry with 0-37 not scoring at all today and rightly subbed off. Darragh Canavan has been 2nd in their scoring with 1-24 and was their best forward today. More decent consistent scorers is needed and remains to be seen if Eoin McElholm,Ruairi Cavavan can be those forwards in the years ahead.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 07:44:22 PMMcElholms first start in a county senior game for Tyrone I believe? Can be forgiven for some poor moments when those about him were doing worse when they should know better.
Kilpatrick has always been a sort of liability/ head the ball but at least he was fired up when he needed to be.
No, he started a league game earlier in the year and was absolutely brutal. Picked up a ridiculously needless black card very, very early.
Quote from: Fogarty on July 12, 2025, 07:35:13 PMTyrone forwards lacked composure in the crucial 3rd quarter.
They will learn for this.
This was summed by Mattie Donnelly getting blocked down in first half which lead to Kerry goal. He should have goaled on a earlier chance too.
Quote from: Gael85 on July 12, 2025, 07:55:25 PMQuote from: Fogarty on July 12, 2025, 07:35:13 PMTyrone forwards lacked composure in the crucial 3rd quarter.
They will learn for this.
This was summed by Mattie Donnelly getting blocked down in first half which lead to Kerry goal. He should have goaled on a earlier chance too.
The goal chance was a difficult one coming in on his wrong side did well to get a score out of it.
I did mean Championship game but point taken.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2025, 07:23:46 PMQuoteWill Joe McQuillan be called Kerry Joe now? ;D
Strangely, the last image on RTE's montage post match was Joe with a big smile on his face. He was clearly very happy with the result
so yes, he's Kerry Joe now
Call him what you want, he's hung up the intercounty whistle now.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 07:32:59 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:25:14 PMJees! You're very worried about Tyrone football 😄
I'm sure when Kilpatrick and McKernan are shining their All Ireland medals they'll be thinking bout your 'twattery' advice. Maybe lend your expertise to Antrim county football the state of it.
Good one.
Thanks 👍
Quote from: Rois on July 12, 2025, 08:06:31 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 12, 2025, 07:23:46 PMQuoteWill Joe McQuillan be called Kerry Joe now? ;D
Strangely, the last image on RTE's montage post match was Joe with a big smile on his face. He was clearly very happy with the result
so yes, he's Kerry Joe now
Call him what you want, he's hung up the intercounty whistle now.
Maybe that's why he had a smile on his face
What happened at the end. Was there an advantage that Tyrone scored from but that they went back for the free kick for anyway?
Quote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2025, 08:30:50 PMWhat happened at the end. Was there an advantage that Tyrone scored from but that they went back for the free kick for anyway?
They scored a point but wanted the free as it was outside the arc. All a bit daft given they were down by six but at least they showed some effort.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2025, 08:30:50 PMWhat happened at the end. Was there an advantage that Tyrone scored from but that they went back for the free kick for anyway?
I thought they went back for a 2 point free rather than take the point. I think 🤷
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:46:27 PMMcKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.
McKernan is at it all the time. However, today when he came on his injured shoulder was blatantly targeted by Joe O'Connor who instigated the shit. Does anyone call O'Connor out?
David Clifford is not behind the door on the shithousery either btw. He's always a willing participant. But he's brilliant, and a forward so the halo remains.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 12, 2025, 08:34:23 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:46:27 PMMcKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.
McKernan is at it all the time. However, today when he came on his injured shoulder was blatantly targeted by Joe O'Connor who instigated the shit. Does anyone call O'Connor out?
David Clifford is not behind the door on the shithousery either btw. He's always a willing participant. But he's brilliant, and a forward so the halo remains.
If you saw that on TV I don't know how you can say that with any certainty whatsoever as it just cut to the pair of them and McKernan running into O'Connor. Given the way O'Connor was laughing at the whole situation, to me it seemed much more logical that he was the one being targeted.
The glorious twelfth :D ;D
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 08:37:50 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 12, 2025, 08:34:23 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:46:27 PMMcKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.
McKernan is at it all the time. However, today when he came on his injured shoulder was blatantly targeted by Joe O'Connor who instigated the shit. Does anyone call O'Connor out?
David Clifford is not behind the door on the shithousery either btw. He's always a willing participant. But he's brilliant, and a forward so the halo remains.
If you saw that on TV I don't know how you can say that with any certainty whatsoever as it just cut to the pair of them and McKernan running into O'Connor. Given the way O'Connor was laughing at the whole situation, to me it seemed much more logical that he was the one being targeted.
It showed on tv mckernan running and oconnor driving the shoulder in him. Mckernan is no innocent flower but this case it was kerry men targeting a weakness
Clifford continues his run of form against Division 2 teams.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:05:07 PMQuote from: lenny on July 12, 2025, 07:01:38 PMQuote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2025, 06:57:36 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on July 12, 2025, 06:56:37 PMSean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
;D ;D
😂. Tyrone were very flat for most of the game, completely outplayed. It'll be very disappointing for them after investing heavily in an outside manager. They did well on kick outs in fairness.
Speaking of outside managers, have yous boys found another Tyrone man yet? ££££
15 months since you first approached MOR to put together the most expensive management team ever assembled. Before last year's championship even started. Think about the massive lack of respect you showed to two bona fide Tyrone legends.
And think about how your year ended up as bad as ours. Relegation to div 2 and championship also-rans.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 12, 2025, 10:35:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:05:07 PMQuote from: lenny on July 12, 2025, 07:01:38 PMQuote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2025, 06:57:36 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on July 12, 2025, 06:56:37 PMSean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
;D ;D
😂. Tyrone were very flat for most of the game, completely outplayed. It'll be very disappointing for them after investing heavily in an outside manager. They did well on kick outs in fairness.
Speaking of outside managers, have yous boys found another Tyrone man yet? ££££
15 months since you first approached MOR to put together the most expensive management team ever assembled. Before last year's championship even started. Think about the massive lack of respect you showed to two bona fide Tyrone legends.
And think about how your year ended up as bad as ours. Relegation to div 2 and championship also-rans.
Was a huge improvement on last year into last four in the championship. O'Rourke has lived in Tyrone well over 30 years and won club championship here as player and manager.
You're getting desperate to deflect from Derry who failed to win a game this year, and spent a fortune the last few years on Tyrone managers who needed Sat Navs to find Dungiven. No wonder O'Rourke told yous to catch yourselves on when yous went grovelling to get him. Derry a laughing stock with one lonely All Ireland win.
Don't know if it was mentioned in here or not but a pivotal point in the match is when Tyrone scored a 2 pointer and Kerry Joe brought it back for a free. Would have stopped the rot and gave Tyrone a platform.
Also Teagues performance on Ose considering his performance against Armagh was outstanding.
If only they had played that cry baby Meyler we would have won today.
It's mandatory for RTE to have Kerry pundits on every show? Kerry man Fitzmaurice commentator in today game too.
It was said Bradley or a Tyrone player claimed the free ..id have to see it again.
Common sense reffing would have just given the 2 pointer.
Teague another one guilty of silly pot shot
What was with the advantage rule? A few times joe waves advantage tyrone scored and was brought back for a free? Thought advantage was only beought back if there was no obvious advantage or if there was a wide
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 12, 2025, 10:35:51 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 12, 2025, 07:05:07 PMQuote from: lenny on July 12, 2025, 07:01:38 PMQuote from: Tubberman on July 12, 2025, 06:57:36 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on July 12, 2025, 06:56:37 PMSean Cavanagh must be off to play at Wimbledon now.
;D ;D
😂. Tyrone were very flat for most of the game, completely outplayed. It'll be very disappointing for them after investing heavily in an outside manager. They did well on kick outs in fairness.
Speaking of outside managers, have yous boys found another Tyrone man yet? ££££
15 months since you first approached MOR to put together the most expensive management team ever assembled. Before last year's championship even started. Think about the massive lack of respect you showed to two bona fide Tyrone legends.
And think about how your year ended up as bad as ours. Relegation to div 2 and championship also-rans.
How the hell was our year as bad as yours?! ;D ;D ;D
Tyrone with championship wins against Donegal (possible eventual winners) and Dublin. Derry haven't won a competitive game of football in any competition since June 2024.
I'll have what you're having.
Quote from: Grace Murphy on July 12, 2025, 10:57:43 PMDon't know if it was mentioned in here or not but a pivotal point in the match is when Tyrone scored a 2 pointer and Kerry Joe brought it back for a free. Would have stopped the rot and gave Tyrone a platform.
Also Teagues performance on Ose considering his performance against Armagh was outstanding.
I thought Kerry were getting their frees handier than Tyrone in certain periods but it wasn't game changing.
The point you mention, however, was just unfortunate for Tyrone rather than a referee error. He played advantage then there was another foul. He blew for the free at that point. After that the 2 pointer was kicked.
He can't change his mind after he has blown for the free, be it common sense or not.
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 08:37:50 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 12, 2025, 08:34:23 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2025, 06:46:27 PMMcKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.
McKernan is at it all the time. However, today when he came on his injured shoulder was blatantly targeted by Joe O'Connor who instigated the shit. Does anyone call O'Connor out?
David Clifford is not behind the door on the shithousery either btw. He's always a willing participant. But he's brilliant, and a forward so the halo remains.
If you saw that on TV I don't know how you can say that with any certainty whatsoever as it just cut to the pair of them and McKernan running into O'Connor. Given the way O'Connor was laughing at the whole situation, to me it seemed much more logical that he was the one being targeted.
For once McKernan the innocent party in that exchange. Clifford instigated a scuffle off the ball in the first half also, not sure if it was caught on tv cameras or not. That said the glaring difference between the two teams was that Kerry kicked inside at every opportunity. Tyrone refused it so many times when there was acres of space to play to. Wither that's management tactics or precious overcoaching im not sure. There was a severe lack of movement off the ball from the Tyrone inside forwards
Kerry's conditioning is so much better than previous years. O'Connor is a beast. Kerry left a lot of goals behind, could've been a hammering.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 12, 2025, 11:17:11 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on July 12, 2025, 10:57:43 PMDon't know if it was mentioned in here or not but a pivotal point in the match is when Tyrone scored a 2 pointer and Kerry Joe brought it back for a free. Would have stopped the rot and gave Tyrone a platform.
Also Teagues performance on Ose considering his performance against Armagh was outstanding.
I thought Kerry were getting their frees handier than Tyrone in certain periods but it wasn't game changing.
The point you mention, however, was just unfortunate for Tyrone rather than a referee error. He played advantage then there was another foul. He blew for the free at that point. After that the 2 pointer was kicked.
He can't change his mind after he has blown for the free, be it common sense or not.
The ref wasn't the winning or losing of the game, I think, though momentum is everything (like Tyrone's many poor wides, deflating them and giving Kerry confidence).
It There were a number of clear frees that he just didn't give on both sides. I couldn't understand how Kennedy could catch a ball, be seemingly taken out in the air and get neither a mark or a free.
I also felt like there were a lot of frees given to Kerry where there was no obvious contact made.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 12, 2025, 11:49:28 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 12, 2025, 11:17:11 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on July 12, 2025, 10:57:43 PMDon't know if it was mentioned in here or not but a pivotal point in the match is when Tyrone scored a 2 pointer and Kerry Joe brought it back for a free. Would have stopped the rot and gave Tyrone a platform.
Also Teagues performance on Ose considering his performance against Armagh was outstanding.
I thought Kerry were getting their frees handier than Tyrone in certain periods but it wasn't game changing.
The point you mention, however, was just unfortunate for Tyrone rather than a referee error. He played advantage then there was another foul. He blew for the free at that point. After that the 2 pointer was kicked.
He can't change his mind after he has blown for the free, be it common sense or not.
The ref wasn't the winning or losing of the game, I think, though momentum is everything (like Tyrone's many poor wides, deflating them and giving Kerry confidence).
It There were a number of clear frees that he just didn't give on both sides. I couldn't understand how Kennedy could catch a ball, be seemingly taken out in the air and get neither a mark or a free.
I also felt like there were a lot of frees given to Kerry where there was no obvious contact made.
When Tyrone lose the ref is always complicit
Quote from: Dun Eile on July 12, 2025, 11:01:14 PMIt's mandatory for RTE to have Kerry pundits on every show? Kerry man Fitzmaurice commentator in today game too.
It is mandatory.
I thought Tyrone started both halfs really well and had Kerry in bother, in particular at the kickouts. They actually created lots of chances but their conversion rate and decision making was not at the level needed to beat Kerry who took over when they hit their purple patch. Also I thought their best player was the keeper and it could have been an awful hiding only for him.
Quote from: Joeythelips on July 13, 2025, 12:09:36 AMI thought Tyrone started both halfs really well and had Kerry in bother, in particular at the kickouts. They actually created lots of chances but their conversion rate and decision making was not at the level needed to beat Kerry who took over when they hit their purple patch. Also I thought their best player was the keeper and it could have been an awful hiding only for him.
Would be the story of Tyrone this year, play in fits and starts. Was Morgan a bit iffy of the tee or am I wrong? A lot of unforced errors through the year as well. Individual mistakes.
Tight shift for Hampsey who to be fair hasn't played a pile of football in the last year
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2025, 08:32:26 PMQuote from: David McKeown on July 12, 2025, 08:30:50 PMWhat happened at the end. Was there an advantage that Tyrone scored from but that they went back for the free kick for anyway?
They scored a point but wanted the free as it was outside the arc. All a bit daft given they were down by six but at least they showed some effort.
I thought the advantage ended if you scored? What if you are three points down and point instead of goaling late on.
Quote from: Dun Eile on July 12, 2025, 11:01:14 PMIt's mandatory for RTE to have Kerry pundits on every show? Kerry man Fitzmaurice commentator in today game too.
At the end of the day, a handful of counties over-index with commentators particularly: Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway. I have no sympathy for any of those top counties complaining. I actually enjoy the drollness of Fitzmaurice. The delivery of such shrewd insights in such a prosaic manner should be copyrighted. I was driving for first few minutes so was glad to escape Cora and Canning on the radio. Canning is Cork so add them to the county list above.
Went pretty much as I expected, Kerry are a bit further down the line than Tyrone. From a Tyrone point of view the first 20 minutes were very good but they didn't get the scores to reflect that. And in the second half when Kerry were on top Tyrone had so many poor wides. Kerry's spell when they got all those scores in a row wasn't the same as the Armagh game, Tyrone should have kept the scoreboard ticking over at the other end to some extent. Heads went a little as the wides stacked up and decision making became questionable.
Defence was too open as it went on and but for Morgan Kerry could have had a few goals. At the same time a couple of key Kerry men were shut down very effectively. D Clifford was just fantastic, an incredible footballer.
I take it as a good year for Tyrone. The last 3 seasons were pretty farcical. O'Rourke inherited a lot of talent but a team that was a bit of a shambles. He has had a solid start and restored order but there remains a lot to do. I'd hope we won't see retirements at this stage, the old dogs are still great players and could be a big influence as the youngsters from the successful under age teams come through.
Kerry were excellent. They will take some stopping but not unbeatable. It's a case of up Donegal for me now but I wish all three remaining sides good luck.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 12, 2025, 11:49:28 PMI couldn't understand how Kennedy could catch a ball, be seemingly taken out in the air
Is this what it's come to from hard Tyrone men? Two lads competed for the ball in the air. Kennedy won and fell. Nothing more. Kerry lad jumped and had both arms straight up in the air ffs.
I did think he should have got the mark though. There's no NFL style "survive the ground" as far as I know.
Quote from: gallsman on July 13, 2025, 07:44:15 AMI did think he should have got the mark though. There's no NFL style "survive the ground" as far as I know.
No, I don't think there is, but after that catch there really should be. Cruel to have a catch like that and not get the mark.
Quote from: weareros on July 13, 2025, 01:34:20 AMQuote from: Dun Eile on July 12, 2025, 11:01:14 PMIt's mandatory for RTE to have Kerry pundits on every show? Kerry man Fitzmaurice commentator in today game too.
At the end of the day, a handful of counties over-index with commentators particularly: Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway. I have no sympathy for any of those top counties complaining. I actually enjoy the drollness of Fitzmaurice. The delivery of such shrewd insights in such a prosaic manner should be copyrighted. I was driving for first few minutes so was glad to escape Cora and Canning on the radio. Canning is Cork so add them to the county list above.
Cora Staunton is on RTE radio? Mother of christ
Quote from: Main Street on July 13, 2025, 12:01:14 AMQuote from: HokeyPokey on July 12, 2025, 11:49:28 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 12, 2025, 11:17:11 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on July 12, 2025, 10:57:43 PMDon't know if it was mentioned in here or not but a pivotal point in the match is when Tyrone scored a 2 pointer and Kerry Joe brought it back for a free. Would have stopped the rot and gave Tyrone a platform.
Also Teagues performance on Ose considering his performance against Armagh was outstanding.
I thought Kerry were getting their frees handier than Tyrone in certain periods but it wasn't game changing.
The point you mention, however, was just unfortunate for Tyrone rather than a referee error. He played advantage then there was another foul. He blew for the free at that point. After that the 2 pointer was kicked.
He can't change his mind after he has blown for the free, be it common sense or not.
The ref wasn't the winning or losing of the game, I think, though momentum is everything (like Tyrone's many poor wides, deflating them and giving Kerry confidence).
It There were a number of clear frees that he just didn't give on both sides. I couldn't understand how Kennedy could catch a ball, be seemingly taken out in the air and get neither a mark or a free.
I also felt like there were a lot of frees given to Kerry where there was no obvious contact made.
When Tyrone lose the ref is always complicit
Just had to listen to a rant about him from someone. I think some people in Tyrone just don't enjoy it.
Quote from: OakLeaf on July 13, 2025, 08:03:18 AMQuote from: gallsman on July 13, 2025, 07:44:15 AMI did think he should have got the mark though. There's no NFL style "survive the ground" as far as I know.
No, I don't think there is, but after that catch there really should be. Cruel to have a catch like that and not get the mark.
Checked the rule book for the wording of this and once again with the GAA rule book the wording of the rule isn't exactly the clearest.
QuoteThe referee shall award a Mark, in either of the following circumstances:
(i) When the player catches the ball cleanly from a kick-out, without it touching the ground, on or past the 45m line nearest the kick-out point (a Kick Out Mark)
Nowhere in the rule is catching the ball cleanly defined.
Based on how I have seen the mark rule reffed since it was introduced I would have said that the normal interpretation by refs is that the player catching it needs to land standing in some sort of clean possession of the ball. I don't think there was any foul on Kennedy in the act of catching it - I just think that the ref interpreted the situation as not being a mark because it wasn't a clean catch and play was allowed continue on.
I'm not sure whether situations like this should be marks - would it lead to more dangerous play if players knew that they didn't need to land in clean possession of the ball? I'd imagine it would - in the AFL the players regularly enough make marks in this manner - catch it in the air, with little to no regard for their landing position. . Personally I'd be leaning towards the interpretation that the player basically needs to land on the ground in clean possession of the ball as I think this would be safer for all involved. The AFL is a pro game and there seems to be a far greater acceptance of behaviour that risks players bodies picking up serious damage (similar to rugby)
What I definitely would be in favour of is that the actual rule to be clarified one way or the other so everyone would know what is and isn't allowed which would be much fairer to everyone.
There have been a couple of instances this year where lads have caught the ball in the air while put out over the sideline. Hard to know whether they were awarded marks or frees but ref hasn't given the sideline the other way any time I've seen it.
Agree they should have to catch the ball and land. Then you get into the definition of land though. Kennedy "landed" with the ball alright, albeit on his back unfortunately.
Quote from: gallsman on July 13, 2025, 11:17:26 AMAgree they should have to catch the ball and land. Then you get into the definition of land though. Kennedy "landed" with the ball alright, albeit on his back unfortunately.
That seems to be the way referees are interpreting it. You need retain possession of the ball until you land on your feet. I think the ref got it right yesterday. They could do with clearing up the landing part though.
I thought he was ferociously unlucky not to be awarded the mark.
Other than that thought McQuillan was fine. Missed a Kerry pick up at one point and the Tyrone player that punched White in the stomach was lucky everyone seemed to miss it.
Tyrone were playing very well for large portions of that game..
They were dominating midfield and with some better shot selection they'd have been far closer
A few of Tyrone's main players didn't show up though and Tyrone needed an everyone on song and for Kerry to be not as good as they were against Armagh.
That said, Kerry had a few different gears in them and seemed well capable of lifting their game..
From the ref's view I thought Joe (stick whatever county name you feel) did well, wasn't going to get everything but no real incidents
Quote from: SCFC on July 13, 2025, 11:59:28 AMI thought he was ferociously unlucky not to be awarded the mark.
Other than that thought McQuillan was fine. Missed a Kerry pick up at one point and the Tyrone player that punched White in the stomach was lucky everyone seemed to miss it.
If I was a Tyrone fan I'd be frustrated by McQuillan. Hand up for the advantage anytime a Kerry player was touched. In fairness he was applying the rules and they were all technically fouls. I'm just of the opinion more contact should be allowed. What are defenders meant to do these days. It's bad enough being one on one with Clifford without being able to touch him.
Quote from: Mario on July 13, 2025, 12:45:35 PMQuote from: SCFC on July 13, 2025, 11:59:28 AMI thought he was ferociously unlucky not to be awarded the mark.
Other than that thought McQuillan was fine. Missed a Kerry pick up at one point and the Tyrone player that punched White in the stomach was lucky everyone seemed to miss it.
If I was a Tyrone fan I'd be frustrated by McQuillan. Hand up for the advantage anytime a Kerry player was touched. In fairness he was applying the rules and they were all technically fouls. I'm just of the opinion more contact should be allowed. What are defenders meant to do these days. It's bad enough being one on one with Clifford without being able to touch him.
Tackle the ball?
There was a clear foul on him in the first half that he didn't get
All the top forwards are targeted and he gets special attention, but I can't have him putting his fingers up at the ref explaining how many times he's fouled
Definitely appeared kerry got softer frees but then Tyrones tackling discipline wasn't great.
McGeary & Kilpatrick again needless fouling at crucial moments.
On Clifford goal chances should Ben McDonnell have risked emptying Clifford and conceded penalty?
Kerry clearly the best team in the country, imagine if they had full complement.
McCurry in hindsight should bave been held in reserve, but its a brave manager who holds their top scorer on bench.
I thought McElholm should have been held in reserve.
First year in Senior and it has been fairly patchy.
A lot of Tyrone errors - unforced turnovers throughout the game.
Decision making and delayed passes and subsequent movement poor.
A game going well handed back to Kerry who didn't have to dig too deep!
Still not sure how good Kerry are - still feels like they haven't been tested yet.
Clifford having a great year this year.
O'Kane in the Irish news had the stats 10 out of 30 from play in his last 5 games in Croke Park before the Armagh game. And started 1/4 against them when O'Shea took up the slack first half. It's a fact he didn't play well enough in their 2023 & 2024 exits but looks determined to make it up for it now.
Tyrone won 16 kickouts to Kerrys 5 in first half. That was the losing of the game, didnt rack up enough scores when they had advantage.
Cavanagh did some blathering on RTE yesterday but he made the best point numerous times(& was generally ignored) that Kerry would be very ordinary without Clifford. So I wouldn't be buying the Kerry are great narrative. If there's a team that can nullify Clifford it's Donegal. They have to get over today of course but think I'd fancy Jim to devise a cunning plan for DC.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2025, 12:55:21 PMQuote from: Mario on July 13, 2025, 12:45:35 PMIt's bad enough being one on one with Clifford without being able to touch him.
Tackle the ball?
There was a clear foul on him in the first half that he didn't get
There was one towards the end where he burnt two lads for pace and strength along the end line that was a blatant foul as well and got nothing.
I thought that was a blatant dive.
Quote from: Mario on July 13, 2025, 12:45:35 PMQuote from: SCFC on July 13, 2025, 11:59:28 AMI thought he was ferociously unlucky not to be awarded the mark.
Other than that thought McQuillan was fine. Missed a Kerry pick up at one point and the Tyrone player that punched White in the stomach was lucky everyone seemed to miss it.
If I was a Tyrone fan I'd be frustrated by McQuillan. Hand up for the advantage anytime a Kerry player was touched. In fairness he was applying the rules and they were all technically fouls. I'm just of the opinion more contact should be allowed. What are defenders meant to do these days. It's bad enough being one on one with Clifford without being able to touch him.
So you'd be frustrated at McQuillan for applying the rules and calling fouls which you agree were fouls?
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 13, 2025, 02:03:38 PMQuote from: Mario on July 13, 2025, 12:45:35 PMQuote from: SCFC on July 13, 2025, 11:59:28 AMI thought he was ferociously unlucky not to be awarded the mark.
Other than that thought McQuillan was fine. Missed a Kerry pick up at one point and the Tyrone player that punched White in the stomach was lucky everyone seemed to miss it.
If I was a Tyrone fan I'd be frustrated by McQuillan. Hand up for the advantage anytime a Kerry player was touched. In fairness he was applying the rules and they were all technically fouls. I'm just of the opinion more contact should be allowed. What are defenders meant to do these days. It's bad enough being one on one with Clifford without being able to touch him.
So you'd be frustrated at McQuillan for applying the rules and calling fouls which you agree were fouls?
Yes exactly, I feel some refs wouldn't have called them but you can't argue with the decisions.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 13, 2025, 01:22:40 PMTyrone won 16 kickouts to Kerrys 5 in first half. That was the losing of the game, didnt rack up enough scores when they had advantage.
Didn't rack up enough scores overall. 15 scores from 31 shots and 22 minutes without any score in the 2nd half. Kerry missed or didn't take plenty of goal chances but had a 73% shooting accuracy in the second half.
Quote from: Mario on July 13, 2025, 02:30:51 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 13, 2025, 02:03:38 PMQuote from: Mario on July 13, 2025, 12:45:35 PMQuote from: SCFC on July 13, 2025, 11:59:28 AMI thought he was ferociously unlucky not to be awarded the mark.
Other than that thought McQuillan was fine. Missed a Kerry pick up at one point and the Tyrone player that punched White in the stomach was lucky everyone seemed to miss it.
If I was a Tyrone fan I'd be frustrated by McQuillan. Hand up for the advantage anytime a Kerry player was touched. In fairness he was applying the rules and they were all technically fouls. I'm just of the opinion more contact should be allowed. What are defenders meant to do these days. It's bad enough being one on one with Clifford without being able to touch him.
So you'd be frustrated at McQuillan for applying the rules and calling fouls which you agree were fouls?
Yes exactly, I feel some refs wouldn't have called them but you can't argue with the decisions.
Unless it was someone who didn't play much football reffing a Junior league game in a hurling county, I'd say the overwhelming majority of refs would be calling all those frees.
For me this is the Kerry 5 in a row minor conveyor belt reaching its peak, could last another few years easily - this should be the era for that cohort
Was always going to be difficult for Tyrone without McKernan fit and firing
Need Paul Donaghy back for next year to play 11
Yes Kerry felt they left last year behind them and as such are very dangerous in that "mood"
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 07:44:22 PMMcElholms first start in a county championship senior game for Tyrone I believe? Can be forgiven for some poor moments when those about him were doing worse when they should know better.
Kilpatrick has always been a sort of liability/ head the ball but at least he was fired up when he needed to be.
Another point about McElholm. When McCurry went for goal after a few minutes McElholm was virtually free beside him on McCurry's left with a back 3 yards closer to goal between them who leant into going for McCurry as he was going to shoot. There was another back in front of McCurry a bit to his right the side he shot to. Had McCurry passed to McElholm (it would need to have been a precise but a well possible pass) l feel sure McElholm would have scored the goal especially given his u20 goal scoring exploits. Also McCurry's shot was a bit weak and perfect saving height when it could also have been a foot higher and a bit more to the right. Still McElholm was better placed to finish.
I think despite wonderful service that McCurry has given that is the last time we will see McCurry start for Tyrone.
And while l am here l think Harte should have started and McElholm come on at about 40min. Harte could have got points as in Dublin match as l think his 3 early 2 pointers v Dublin was what enabled that win and his strength could have broken Kerry down a bit. It was unfair to start McElholm for 1st full championship start in Croker and he seems a little diffident despite his lively early contribution and in my view he would have contributed more from 40m on when more space was likely to be available.
Keendey Mark. Kennedy caught the ball had control of it and fell then lost the ball on hitting the ground. The ball only touched the ground after it squirmed out of his hands.
It was a mark the rule is clear. As in 4~5 cases regarding Tyrone yesterday Cavan Joe was wrong.( Glad he is retired now)
"Rule re Mark
2.12 Mark The Referee shall award a Mark in either of the following circumstances:
(i) When a player catches the ball cleanly from a kick-out, without it touching the ground, on or past the 45m line nearest the kick-out point....."
nothing about balls cleanly caught sqwirming out of hand after a player falls.
Quote from: cjx on July 13, 2025, 11:55:03 PMI think despite wonderful service that McCurry has given that is the last time we will see McCurry start for Tyrone.
A bold statement, He's still only 32? started all bar two league/Championship games and was Tyrone top scorer this year with 0-61.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 14, 2025, 12:17:51 AMQuote from: cjx on July 13, 2025, 11:55:03 PMI think despite wonderful service that McCurry has given that is the last time we will see McCurry start for Tyrone.
A bold statement, He's still only 32? started all bar two league/Championship games and was Tyrone top scorer this year with 0-61.
Pass no remarks on these sort of comments by people who only started watching Tyrone when they reached the quarter finals. Anyone following Tyrone from the start of the year as well as previous years have seen how great McCurry is. There's no doubt he was poor against Kerry and Dublin but anyone doubting his quality haven't a clue.
Quote from: cjx on July 14, 2025, 12:09:58 AMKeendey Mark. Kennedy caught the ball had control of it and fell then lost the ball on hitting the ground. The ball only touched the ground after it squirmed out of his hands.
It was a mark the rule is clear. As in 4~5 cases regarding Tyrone yesterday Cavan Joe was wrong.( Glad he is retired now)
"Rule re Mark
2.12 Mark The Referee shall award a Mark in either of the following circumstances:
(i) When a player catches the ball cleanly from a kick-out, without it touching the ground, on or past the 45m line nearest the kick-out point....."
nothing about balls cleanly caught sqwirming out of hand after a player falls.
As bad as Joe was there's no question it had no effect on the result as Kerry were deserving winners. But that call on the Kennedy catch is the one that annoyed me the most. He cleaning caught the ball and held on to it at the risk of injury by falling on his back to win a mark for his county and joe gives it as touching the ball on the ground. Even the Kerry lads looked shocked at the call. The whole point of the mark being brought in was for those sort of reasons.
Well if he lost control of the ball when he hit the ground, how is it a mark?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 14, 2025, 01:34:04 AMWell if he lost control of the ball when he hit the ground, how is it a mark?
Did you not read the previous comment? He was still in control of the ball when he touched the ground.
The 2 football semi-finals ovr the week-end were very disappointing.
I expected a lot more from Tyrone than Meath but both were poor, especially in the 2nd half.
Tyrone, after a bright start, fizzled away badly. Missed chances early on Seemed to suck the life out of them. Hard to know what went wrong.
I suppose Meath, Tyrone and Derry will be bursting to get out of Div. 2 next season. One will lose out you'd think.
Kerry players like to surround and intimidate referees. What happened to the give respect get respect. O'Shea and Clifford main culprits.
Quote from: marty34 on July 14, 2025, 07:05:47 AMI suppose Meath, Tyrone and Derry will be bursting to get out of Div. 2 next season. One will lose out you'd think.
At a guess, I would say that at least one will lose out. But you never know.
Whatever about failing to score for 22min with 5~6 wides and impatient ( ie. Not confident or with self belief) shot selection.
In light of this 2026 several players likely to move on. Petie Harte 15th County season, Mattie Donnelly 15th Co. season,possibly McCurry 12th Co. season(?) and possibly Hampsey?
Biggest question here is where will Tyrone get the 2 big men down the spine they so clearly need? Ruari MCHugh, Colton from minors and out and out full forward?
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Quote from: cjx on July 14, 2025, 07:31:29 PMBiggest question here is where will Tyrone get the 2 big men down the spine they so clearly need? Ruari MCHugh, Colton from minors and out and out full forward?
I think that's a need, but feel like bringing in players who can execute kick passes well, is also a big need. If we lose Harte, that's our best option gone. I think Devlin has a good pass, but others seem to lack the confidence to kick it forward.
Quote from: marty34 on July 14, 2025, 07:05:47 AMThe 2 football semi-finals ovr the week-end were very disappointing.
I expected a lot more from Tyrone than Meath but both were poor, especially in the 2nd half.
Tyrone, after a bright start, fizzled away badly. Missed chances early on Seemed to suck the life out of them. Hard to know what went wrong.
I suppose Meath, Tyrone and Derry will be bursting to get out of Div. 2 next season. One will lose out you'd think.
I didn't expect a lot more from Tyrone they were less than great against fading force Dublin in error ridden match. Armagh weren't close to last years form and struggled to adjusted the new rules. Armagh bet Tyrone by one point and Kerry beat both by 6 and 8 points. In hindsight that was where they were and weren't really All Ireland contenders this year.
Meath rabbit caught in the headlights stuff and bad news for them they met a Donegal side that didn't ease off and subs brought on had a point to prove.
On the league
2023 Armagh,Donegal relegated, 2024 both promoted back to Division 1
2024 Roscommon,Monaghan relegated, 2025 both promoted back to Division 1
The same will likely happen next year with Tyrone,Derry bouncing straight back.
Think it was touched on here before. Was looking for analysis from the Saturday game but can't get it on rte player. Don't think it was mentioned on the Sunday game either?
Heard a videographer called Mark Forde captured a great video of Cliffords 2 pointer. Anyone see it?
Morgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
The loughmacrory lad looks like an absolute unit. Haven't seen him play at club level so don't know what he's like, but he looks alot more physical than Morgan.
I don't know why they changed the age from U21 to U20 and minors down a year. U21 was better.. another big year in a young players development and a better gauge whether they can make it through to senior county football.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
I can't see Morgan retiring to be honest.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 18, 2025, 12:03:22 AMI don't know why they changed the age from U21 to U20 and minors down a year. U21 was better.. another big year in a young players development and a better gauge whether they can make it through to senior county football.
Committees set up and make changes to justify themselves. Joke as big gap from 20 to senior.
Quote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 07:36:24 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
I can't see Morgan retiring to be honest.
Yeah if I had to bet I'd be backing him to stay on for a year or two more.
However once a player goes over the thirty mark it's only a matter of time before things come to an end.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 18, 2025, 10:30:56 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 07:36:24 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
I can't see Morgan retiring to be honest.
Yeah if I had to bet I'd be backing him to stay on for a year or two more.
However once a player goes over the thirty mark it's only a matter of time before things come to an end.
A goalkeeper is different to an outfield player.
Quote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 10:37:44 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 18, 2025, 10:30:56 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 07:36:24 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
I can't see Morgan retiring to be honest.
Yeah if I had to bet I'd be backing him to stay on for a year or two more.
However once a player goes over the thirty mark it's only a matter of time before things come to an end.
A goalkeeper is different to an outfield player.
Keepers cover some ground these days though.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 18, 2025, 11:03:28 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 10:37:44 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 18, 2025, 10:30:56 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 07:36:24 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
I can't see Morgan retiring to be honest.
Yeah if I had to bet I'd be backing him to stay on for a year or two more.
However once a player goes over the thirty mark it's only a matter of time before things come to an end.
A goalkeeper is different to an outfield player.
Keepers cover some ground these days though.
He didn't have to cover as much ground this year and with Tyrone having a new stream of graduates coming through he could just be a keeper for a few years. He's still one of the best about if you're honest about it, shot stopping, command of the square and kicking, both dead and from the hand.
He's probably thinking will he still be at the top level by the time Tyrone break through and win their next AI. It might not be that far away but there's no guarantees.
Quote from: clonian on July 18, 2025, 11:24:01 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on July 18, 2025, 11:03:28 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 10:37:44 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 18, 2025, 10:30:56 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 07:36:24 AMQuote from: twohands!!! on July 17, 2025, 08:14:42 PMQuote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 05:55:47 PMMorgan apparently taking time to think about his future. Id guess he'll stay but a serious gap is going to open in a major position.
Another reason why anyone counting All Irelands from the very good underage talent is a fool.
Turns 34 today - you'd wonder if he might go for a reduced role next season if he does stay on - maybe sit out some of the games in the league and give a chance to some of the other goalie options to get some game time - he's still a teacher so championship would be less of a commitment issue. Anyone know what the options are like in terms of his potential replacements ?
I can't see Morgan retiring to be honest.
Yeah if I had to bet I'd be backing him to stay on for a year or two more.
However once a player goes over the thirty mark it's only a matter of time before things come to an end.
A goalkeeper is different to an outfield player.
Keepers cover some ground these days though.
He didn't have to cover as much ground this year and with Tyrone having a new stream of graduates coming through he could just be a keeper for a few years. He's still one of the best about if you're honest about it, shot stopping, command of the square and kicking, both dead and from the hand.
He's probably thinking will he still be at the top level by the time Tyrone break through and win their next AI. It might not be that far away but there's no guarantees.
yeah he's still top class and definitely has more years to give.