I know it was yest but yesterday but am surprised that I see no mention of it here Was unbelievable time and I always thought that Ireland was neutral,even sending a letter of condolence to germany when Hitler died.
Was glad to read a book that showed how Irish people help the french resistance. the book was The Irish in the Resistance by Clodagh Finn and John Morgan.
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 28, 2025, 11:35:55 AMI know it was yest but yesterday but am surprised that I see no mention of it here Was unbelievable time and I always thought that Ireland was neutral,even sending a letter of condolence to germany when Hitler died.
Was glad to read a book that showed how Irish people help the french resistance. the book was The Irish in the Resistance by Clodagh Finn and John Morgan.
The crazy thing is how many people don't know about it or don't believe it happened
I find it difficult to sympathise considering current events in Palestine
Quote from: An Watcher on January 28, 2025, 01:41:05 PMI find it difficult to sympathise considering current events in Palestine
+1
Quote from: An Watcher on January 28, 2025, 01:41:05 PMI find it difficult to sympathise considering current events in Palestine
This is not an appropriate attitude. The Holocaust stands as a uniquely evil event, and that is not diminished by other events caused by other people.
I don't care if it is appropriate or not, it is my attitude.
I agree, the Holocaust was a terrible crime.
The holocaust was a terrible event that showed the worst of humanity and should never be forgotten, but the recent events in the middle east will do untold damage to the reputation of the Jewish community around the world. Gaza has been a concertation camp for decades and we all know its to be a clear out of the ghetto now from this point.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8jvkk05no
Uachtarán causing a stir at this event.
The Holocaust was a brutal and horrific event in history. Rightly, lessons should be learned from it. And if they are not being learned, then why should that not be pointed out? Appropriate timing IMO.
Quote from: An Watcher on January 28, 2025, 01:41:05 PMI find it difficult to sympathise considering current events in Palestine
You can sympathize and recoil from the horror and atrocities the Jews of Europe experienced while at the same time condemning what their descendants have wrought in Palestine. It's not an either/or thing. Just like criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.
Netflix have a French series on the Einsatzgruppen, the predecessor to the industrialized slaughter of the camps. One of the most horrifying programmes I've ever seen, and that was only the preview to what developed in the aftermath of Wannsee conference. Morale was so low amongst the German forces carrying out the slaughter that Heydrich, Himmler and the rest came up with the Zyklon B system to spare their soldiers.
Not sure why people can't call out both and move on
Another view would be, are the current Zionists the type of people they are today because of what happened 80 odd years ago?
Plenty of examples throughout history were nations were oppressed by invaders and become hardline in the future
Why are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.
Great look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
Didn't pay it much attention to be honest , but it seemed to be a wholly Jewish event
Weren't other groups supposedly affected? Catholics, gays, disabled etc?
Have to agree with others about it all , particularly Dagda
Quote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:08:15 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
I guess the answer to that depends on who you ask
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:22:36 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:08:15 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
I guess the answer to that depends on who you ask
I asked you.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2025, 02:49:27 PMNot sure why people can't call out both and move on
Another view would be, are the current Zionists the type of people they are today because of what happened 80 odd years ago?
Plenty of examples throughout history were nations were oppressed by invaders and become hardline in the future
There's no doubt in my mind that they are like this today because of what happened 80 years ago, but that doesn't make the current situation any more acceptable.
At this moment what they are doing and being allowed to do in Gaza is every bit as bad, even if it isn't on the same scale.
I did see a quote somewhere yesterday got me thinking, not one single Israeli died in the Holocaust.
When you start to work back from that stand point does put a bit of context on the whole issue.
Also don't forget these Zionists that are all over social media on this wouldn't be your regular Jew/ Israeli, they are as extreme as Hamas on the other side. So I wouldn't be listening to too much they are coming out with.
Quote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:33:28 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:22:36 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:08:15 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
I guess the answer to that depends on who you ask
I asked you.
Well one could make the case that the remembrance of the Holocaust should be a sacred event and that anything that draws attention away from that is inappropriate and offensive
(That's not my take-that's the take of the people who were offended. My take is if you're enough of an idiot to invite a clown like Michael D to speak at your event-you get what you deserve)
It would be like having a speaker at a Famine Commemoration (in Ireland) and the speaker using that opportunity to criticize the IRA
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:42:57 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:33:28 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:22:36 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:08:15 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
I guess the answer to that depends on who you ask
I asked you.
Well one could make the case that the remembrance of the Holocaust should be a sacred event and that anything that draws attention away from that is inappropriate and offensive
(That's not my take-that's the take of the people who were offended. My take is if you're enough of an idiot to invite a clown like Michael D to speak at your event-you get what you deserve)
It would be like having a speaker at a Famine Commemoration (in Ireland) and the speaker using that opportunity to criticize the IRA
Famine or Genocide ;)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2025, 03:48:22 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:42:57 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:33:28 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:22:36 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:08:15 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
I guess the answer to that depends on who you ask
I asked you.
Well one could make the case that the remembrance of the Holocaust should be a sacred event and that anything that draws attention away from that is inappropriate and offensive
(That's not my take-that's the take of the people who were offended. My take is if you're enough of an idiot to invite a clown like Michael D to speak at your event-you get what you deserve)
It would be like having a speaker at a Famine Commemoration (in Ireland) and the speaker using that opportunity to criticize the IRA
Famine or Genocide ;)
The fact that he used the word famine when there was plenty of food tells you everything.
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:42:57 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:33:28 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:22:36 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 28, 2025, 03:08:15 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:04:48 PMGreat look for Ireland alright
Respectful and peaceful attendees dragged out of the event for having the audacity to quietly stand and turn their backs on Michael D during his speech
what did Michael D say which was so wrong?
I guess the answer to that depends on who you ask
I asked you.
Well one could make the case that the remembrance of the Holocaust should be a sacred event and that anything that draws attention away from that is inappropriate and offensive
(That's not my take-that's the take of the people who were offended. My take is if you're enough of an idiot to invite a clown like Michael D to speak at your event-you get what you deserve)
It would be like having a speaker at a Famine Commemoration (in Ireland) and the speaker using that opportunity to criticize the IRA
If he offended Zionists who refuse to see that what they're doing in Palestine isn't a genocide then even more power to him.
It is a bit sickening to see a lot of other politicians chant out the old mantra "Never Forget" while turning a blind eye to what is happening now.
Precisely Johnny.
And then brainwashed yankeehubarb wades in with Zionist insults to our President, a man who got the biggest vote in Irish history.
No mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 04:31:47 PMNo mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
What is this revision that I'm seeing more often now? It's everything from this, to it never happened at all.
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 04:31:47 PMNo mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
Holocaust denial now is it?
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 04:31:47 PMNo mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
I'd be keen to see the evidence that it didn't happen
I agree MR. Why do law makers not see that as healthy I wonder? Why do they not see that "Sunlight is the best disinfectant"?
Holocaust denial in criminal law (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2021/698043/EPRS_BRI(2021)698043_EN.pdf)
Quote from: Rossfan on January 28, 2025, 04:01:55 PMPrecisely Johnny.
And then brainwashed yankeehubarb wades in with Zionist insults to our President, a man who got the biggest vote in Irish history.
My dislike of Michael D predates last Sundays event by several decades
He's a flat out clown-always has been
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.
How are you being punished?
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 04:31:47 PMNo mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
Not having read said memoirs I bow to your obvious knowledge. However, both Eisenhower and Churchill knew of the Holocaust.
"There is no doubt in my mind that we are in the presence of one of the greatest and most horrible crimes ever committed" Churchill in a letter to Henry Mond in July 1944.
"The things I saw beggar description.... I made the visit deliberately in order to be in a position to give firsthand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'"
—General Dwight D. Eisenhower, in a letter to Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall, April 15, 1945
Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 05:35:25 PMQuote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.
How are you being punished?
Can't just bust out the auld Nazi salute in front of the neighbors at will
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 04:31:47 PMNo mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
Jesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 05:10:58 PMI agree MR. Why do law makers not see that as healthy I wonder? Why do they not see that "Sunlight is the best disinfectant"?
Holocaust denial in criminal law (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2021/698043/EPRS_BRI(2021)698043_EN.pdf)
So is this the evidence it didn't happen?
I much prefer the header in his bedroom with all sorts of conspiracies than this document.
(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F410c8a36-0e15-415b-893c-535509736a87_1148x781.jpeg)
DO NOT QUESTION DO NOT QUESTION DO NOT QUESTION
Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 04:31:47 PMNo mentions of said event in Churchills, Eisenhowers or De Gaulle's memoirs.
It would be undeniably healthy for there to be allowed a full, open, evidence based debate as to whether it happened in the way that history has fed it to us.
Go on then. Tell us what really happened.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
The truth shouldn't require such protection should it?
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 08:01:30 PMThe truth shouldn't require such protection should it?
Stop dancing about and tell us what you really think happened.
Can't wait to see your sources too.
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
(I don't know which poster you're referring to but) Please share some of the posts where this person expressed their support for genocide....I'd love to see them
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 08:01:30 PMThe truth shouldn't require such protection should it?
I wouldn't know, but I'm curious to know the sources that are used to deny it happened, they must be in book that has the flat earth theories
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:18:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
(I don't know which poster you're referring to but) Please share some of the posts where this person expressed their support for genocide....I'd love to see them
Wow! Look who replied!... you shouldn't have any bother finding them...
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 08:22:21 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:18:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
(I don't know which poster you're referring to but) Please share some of the posts where this person expressed their support for genocide....I'd love to see them
Wow! Look who replied!... you shouldn't have any bother finding them...
Fire away....put them all up for everyone to see
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:23:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 08:22:21 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:18:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
(I don't know which poster you're referring to but) Please share some of the posts where this person expressed their support for genocide....I'd love to see them
Wow! Look who replied!... you shouldn't have any bother finding them...
Fire away....put them all up for everyone to see
Can't be bothered looking for them. Perhaps I should have said justified genocide... support/justify... same thing really.
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 08:29:22 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:23:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 08:22:21 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:18:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
(I don't know which poster you're referring to but) Please share some of the posts where this person expressed their support for genocide....I'd love to see them
Wow! Look who replied!... you shouldn't have any bother finding them...
Fire away....put them all up for everyone to see
Can't be bothered looking for them. Perhaps I should have said justified genocide... support/justify... same thing really.
So asking what Hamas hoped to accomplish by the October 7th attacks is "justifying" genocide in your book
You really need to get out more
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:31:45 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 08:29:22 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:23:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 08:22:21 PMQuote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 08:18:54 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on January 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PMQuote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 28, 2025, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 06:02:28 PMJesus christ.
THIS is where the board is at now?
Come back Gmac, all is forgiven!
The mods have given up it seems
Gave up a long time ago. Has been right wing comments here way beyond the pale coming from a genocide supporting American poster to the board.
(I don't know which poster you're referring to but) Please share some of the posts where this person expressed their support for genocide....I'd love to see them
Wow! Look who replied!... you shouldn't have any bother finding them...
Fire away....put them all up for everyone to see
Can't be bothered looking for them. Perhaps I should have said justified genocide... support/justify... same thing really.
So asking what Hamas hoped to accomplish by the October 7th attacks is "justifying" genocide in your book
You really need to get out more
Me think you doth protest too much. Been out all day, strange comment!
Hamas beheaded 40 babies on Oct 7th
True or false?
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 10:10:06 PMHamas beheaded 40 babies on Oct 7th
True or false?
False I would say now
Many very reputable people from the world of politics and mainstream media have seen the videos. These people are adamant it happened. How dare you claim it's false. You haven't seen what they seen.
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 10:32:05 PMMany very reputable people from the world of politics and mainstream media have seen the videos. These people are adamant it happened. How dare you claim it's false. You haven't seen what they seen.
Who?
Ok so as usual we go off on to a deflection
Evidence?
No mate just highlighting that very powerful people and institutions lie to us and we should always be prepared to question everything.
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 10:54:52 PMNo mate just highlighting that very powerful people and institutions lie to us and we should always be prepared to question everything.
We get that, so you were implying...
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 10:54:52 PMNo mate just highlighting that very powerful people and institutions lie to us and we should always be prepared to question everything.
Well we agree there, but theres enough evidence on the Holocaust out there that most people would be satisfied that it happened.
I cannot believe hamas burnt babies in ovens. But so many in politics and main stream media told us it happened and continued to say it happened in the face of strong evidence against their claims. Its no wonder supporters of Israel, who I'm sure believed the initial strong narrative, wanted retribution.
Quote from: theskull1 on January 28, 2025, 11:59:27 PMI cannot believe hamas burnt babies in ovens. But so many in politics and main stream media told us it happened and continued to say it happened in the face of strong evidence against their claims. Its no wonder supporters of Israel, who I'm sure believed the initial strong narrative, wanted retribution.
Yep, and can we move on to the other subject now, can you even throw up a bit of evidence it didn't happen with regards to the actual topic thread? Not looking much in fairness
Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 05:35:25 PMQuote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.
Woke ideology, for a start.
How are you being punished?
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 05:11:11 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 05:35:25 PMQuote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.
Woke ideology, for a start.
How are you being punished?
Just for a start? How does that work?
What "woke ideology "?
How is it connected to remembering the unspeakable horror and atrocities of the holocaust?
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 05:11:11 PMQuote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 05:35:25 PMQuote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.
Woke ideology, for a start.
How are you being punished?
Define woke...
Woke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Woke.....
https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/
Quote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Woke.....
https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/
Now do anti woke with the same hysterical tone and cherry-picked examples.
That aside, are you agreeing with Dagda Moore??
Quote from: J70 on January 29, 2025, 06:20:53 PMQuote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Woke.....
https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/
Now do anti woke with the same hysterical tone and cherry-picked examples.
That aside, are you agreeing with Dagda Moore??
If there's hate involved, it's probably a yes
Woke:-
Compassion
Kindness
Respect
Decency
Jesus Christ
Quote from: J70 on January 29, 2025, 06:20:53 PMQuote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Woke.....
https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/
Now do anti woke with the same hysterical tone and cherry-picked examples.
That aside, are you agreeing with Dagda Moore??
I don't even know who that is ?
What did they say?
EDIT-I see it's another poster
Well unlike many people on this board, I have actually been to Dachau
I also went to see the Auschwitz exhibit in Boston last year
https://theauschwitzexhibition.com/
I lived in a town with a large Jewish population where it was not unusual for the kids to serve in the Israeli military upon graduation from High School
My mentor and close friend is Jewish.....I had dinner with him and his wife in December
So I would say I am very much pro Jewish and pro Israel
Quote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PMQuote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Woke.....
https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/
What is that bullshit
If whitey is posting a link to their site you just know what side of the argument they are going for
Oh look
QuoteThe IWF is a member of the advisory board of Project 2025, a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation to reshape the United States federal government and consolidate executive power should the Republican nominee win the 2024 presidential election
QuoteAnother major sponsor is the Charles Koch Institute
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 29, 2025, 08:34:18 PMIf whitey is posting a link to their site you just know what side of the argument they are going for
Oh look
QuoteThe IWF is a member of the advisory board of Project 2025, a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation to reshape the United States federal government and consolidate executive power should the Republican nominee win the 2024 presidential election
QuoteAnother major sponsor is the Charles Koch Institute
So what-it's a list
It's about as ridiculous as the woke nonsense we've all be subjected to for the past few years over here
An important part why Trump won-people have had it with the non stop outrage and virtue signaling.
Tampon Tim and Kamala had themselves tied up in knots explaining reproductive freedom for biological males and taxpayer funded sex change operations for criminals
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAI3nriuPxw/?igsh=YTMxOHhtMDQ4dTc3
Meanwhile regular people are trying to buy groceries and put their kids through college
Quote from: NAG1 on January 28, 2025, 03:41:40 PMI did see a quote somewhere yesterday got me thinking, not one single Israeli died in the Holocaust.
When you start to work back from that stand point does put a bit of context on the whole issue.
Also don't forget these Zionists that are all over social media on this wouldn't be your regular Jew/ Israeli, they are as extreme as Hamas on the other side. So I wouldn't be listening to too much they are coming out with.
True. In addition, not one Palestinian participated in the holocaust.
Being aware, awake of long held disparities in the world is not something to be ashamed of. The hijacking of the word woke as in being awake to suggest pathetic societal attitudes is pretty disgusting. There are "super" woke initiatives that perhaps don't need to be resolved at the same time as racial and sexual discrimination. There is a hierarchy of precedents set in times gone by that does need to change as the world evolves however. I will continue to be "woke" to those, along with many decent human beings.
Quote from: Puckoon on January 29, 2025, 09:10:51 PMI will continue to be "woke" to those, along with many decent human beings.
Which is precisely the reason for the overdue anti-woke backlash, the assertion that you are "decent" and the implication that everyone else is not.
Quote from: armaghniac on January 29, 2025, 09:19:45 PMQuote from: Puckoon on January 29, 2025, 09:10:51 PMI will continue to be "woke" to those, along with many decent human beings.
Which is precisely the reason for the overdue anti-woke backlash, the assertion that you are "decent" and the implication that everyone else is not.
Absolutely not what was written at all. I expect you know that.
There is no need to backlash against genuine efforts to improve the lot of others, particularly if it is not at the expense of anyone else. Unless of course their behaviour is not decent.
Quote from: NAG1 on January 28, 2025, 03:41:40 PMI did see a quote somewhere yesterday got me thinking, not one single Israeli died in the Holocaust.
When you start to work back from that stand point does put a bit of context on the whole issue.
Also don't forget these Zionists that are all over social media on this wouldn't be your regular Jew/ Israeli, they are as extreme as Hamas on the other side. So I wouldn't be listening to too much they are coming out with.
Zionists/genocidal supporters would make up the majority of Israelis and most likely Jews so what you see on social media is the tip of the iceberg of their (zionists) depravity. And then add in Christian zionists, which I have seen suggested is as high as 20/30 Christians to every 1 Jewish zionist, also strong zionist support in India too.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 29, 2025, 09:08:06 PMQuote from: NAG1 on January 28, 2025, 03:41:40 PMI did see a quote somewhere yesterday got me thinking, not one single Israeli died in the Holocaust.
When you start to work back from that stand point does put a bit of context on the whole issue.
Also don't forget these Zionists that are all over social media on this wouldn't be your regular Jew/ Israeli, they are as extreme as Hamas on the other side. So I wouldn't be listening to too much they are coming out with.
True. In addition, not one Palestinian participated in the holocaust.
Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem did https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/hajj-amin-al-husayni-wartime-propagandist