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Title: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AM
Club Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:37:59 AM
Clann Eireann will probably do it in Armagh I think. Depending on the sobriety  of county lads in a month or so lol. Could be a dark horse in Ulster as well.

Although the 2 O'Neills are back in top form and probably hard stopped in Armagh so who knows.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: maddog on July 31, 2024, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:37:59 AMClann Eireann will probably do it in Armagh I think. Depending on the sobriety  of county lads in a month or so lol. Could be a dark horse in Ulster as well.

Although the 2 O'Neills are back in top form and probably hard stopped in Armagh so who knows.

Was told by a few to have what you like on Clann Eireann
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:43:45 AM
Quote from: maddog on July 31, 2024, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:37:59 AMClann Eireann will probably do it in Armagh I think. Depending on the sobriety  of county lads in a month or so lol. Could be a dark horse in Ulster as well.

Although the 2 O'Neills are back in top form and probably hard stopped in Armagh so who knows.

Was told by a few to have what you like on Clann Eireann
Yeah think they were a fairly good price as well.

Cullyhanna will have a lot to say as well I think.

Again all depends on county lads and if any have travelling plans etc.

Was at a few senior and intermediate league games this year and the standard and entertainment value wasn't great from what I saw. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:45:52 AM
I think Burren might finally start to come good in Down, lot of Kilcoo men pushing on in years and Burrens young lads maturing.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: David McKeown on July 31, 2024, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

Do Limerick not have a football championship?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on July 31, 2024, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: maddog on July 31, 2024, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:37:59 AMClann Eireann will probably do it in Armagh I think. Depending on the sobriety  of county lads in a month or so lol. Could be a dark horse in Ulster as well.

Although the 2 O'Neills are back in top form and probably hard stopped in Armagh so who knows.

Was told by a few to have what you like on Clann Eireann

The Clann Eireann odds are much better value, they should be similar to Cross. The latter have poor odds as everyone has heard of them.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 31, 2024, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

Do Limerick not have a football championship?

Fixed was always going to miss one.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 11:02:24 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:45:52 AMI think Burren might finally start to come good in Down, lot of Kilcoo men pushing on in years and Burrens young lads maturing.

They had like 13 players on that Down U20 Ulster winning squad a year or two back so wouldn't be surprised if they pull it off.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: David McKeown on July 31, 2024, 11:05:00 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 31, 2024, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

Do Limerick not have a football championship?

Fixed was always going to miss one.

Sorry I genuinely meant this as a question. Sorry. I have no idea on the intricacies of Limerick football.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

What league are Knockbride in in Cavan?

Senior  :)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on July 31, 2024, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 10:37:59 AMClann Eireann will probably do it in Armagh I think. Depending on the sobriety  of county lads in a month or so lol. Could be a dark horse in Ulster as well.

Although the 2 O'Neills are back in top form and probably hard stopped in Armagh so who knows.
Kelly doesn't drink and mccambridge and Turbitt wouldn't be big pinters either.They also have Shea Heffron back from travels who captained them to their championship win a couple of year ago and would be as good as some of the other panelists.7/2 too big for me which I think is a two horse race.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on July 31, 2024, 12:07:28 PM
Clann Eireann and Cross are so far ahead of the pack in Armagh it's unreal. I hope they avoid each other and meet in the County Final. Clan na gael will fancy their chances against anyone but I think they're a few years away from being in top dog bracket. I don't think my own club  is in the conversation but we could bloody a nose along the way.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

What league are Knockbride in in Cavan?

Senior  :)

So are Ballymacelliot.

In fact Ballymacelliot came 3rd or 4th in Kerry division 1 last year and still couldn't win Junior in Kerry.

Knockbride got relegated from division 1 this year
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on July 31, 2024, 12:45:07 PM
On paper Clann Éireann are a shoe-in for Armagh. They walked the league minus county players, as mentioned above Shea Heffron is back and he's county standard. Cross not far behind, I'd have Clans a distant third along with Armagh Harps, Killeavy, Bridge & Madden - all similar level capable of beating each other.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on July 31, 2024, 01:15:22 PM
Ros 3 main Football Championships start this weekend.
Hurley stuff a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ClubScene13 on July 31, 2024, 03:45:13 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

What league are Knockbride in in Cavan?

Senior  :)

So are Ballymacelliot.

In fact Ballymacelliot came 3rd or 4th in Kerry division 1 last year and still couldn't win Junior in Kerry.

Knockbride got relegated from division 1 this year


Way too early to get stuck into this Kerry / Cavan carry on again, looking forward to it all the same.

A lot of people tipping Magherafelt to upset Glen this year as people feel Glen's bellies may be full from recent AI win. Few men travelling but the gap looked significant last few Glen games I watched within the Derry championship
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 31, 2024, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: general_lee on July 31, 2024, 12:45:07 PMOn paper Clann Éireann are a shoe-in for Armagh. They walked the league minus county players, as mentioned above Shea Heffron is back and he's county standard. Cross not far behind, I'd have Clans a distant third along with Armagh Harps, Killeavy, Bridge & Madden - all similar level capable of beating each other.

CE will win with a bit to spare. Think they will come off the AI win better than us. Rian will party hard. Watched the seniors against Madden and whilst they are in a decent place they are still a bit off the top. CE will give Ulster a fair rattle
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: David McKeown on July 31, 2024, 04:01:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 31, 2024, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: general_lee on July 31, 2024, 12:45:07 PMOn paper Clann Éireann are a shoe-in for Armagh. They walked the league minus county players, as mentioned above Shea Heffron is back and he's county standard. Cross not far behind, I'd have Clans a distant third along with Armagh Harps, Killeavy, Bridge & Madden - all similar level capable of beating each other.

CE will win with a bit to spare. Think they will come off the AI win better than us. Rian will party hard. Watched the seniors against Madden and whilst they are in a decent place they are still a bit off the top. CE will give Ulster a fair rattle

At this stage you should be adopted by Kerry with your cute hoorism. Whoever beats Cross will win Armagh.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 06:38:51 PM
Yous are sleeping on Cullyhanna. If they can get themselves close to the levels of last winter they're a match for anyone.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on August 02, 2024, 06:13:03 PM
From the Irish Examiner

Club GAA window is not yet being maximised
Of the 16 Sam Maguire Cup teams, only Cork and Westmeath held championship fixtures in July


Fifteen years ago, then GAA chief executive Páraic Duffy sat down with his erstwhile counterparts, the FAI's John Delaney and IRFU's Philip Browne, for a joint interview.
Duffy admitted to being jealous of the power the other two commanded. "Well, John and Philip have a huge international dimension to their work whereas I have 32 independent republics," he told the Irish Times. "That is the big difference."
He added: "Sometimes I envy the two lads here over the control they appear to have of their organisations."
Nowhere is that confederate nature of the GAA more illustrated than in when and how those republics run their club championships. GAA president Jarlath Burns, who counts Duffy as his counsel, realised that earlier this year when he championed a uniform club championship format allowing for September All-Ireland finals only to receive short shrift from counties.
Yet it's evident not all of them maximise their exclusive window. None of the four All-Ireland quarter-finalists beaten on the last weekend in June – Derry, Dublin, Louth and Roscommon – staged a single senior championship game in July. Nearly two full months will have passed between Louth going out to Donegal and their SFC starting on August 25, while Derry's and Roscommon's breaks amount to five weeks and Dublin's is six.
Of the four beaten preliminary quarter-finalists whose Sam Maguire Cup hopes ended on June 22 or 23, only Cork staged championship action last month. Of the entire 16 in that top tier, just Cork and Westmeath were championship active last month. Eight weeks will have passed by the time the Mayo SFC gets underway and it will be seven for Monaghan.
Tyrone's senior football championship does not begin until the first weekend in September, although that is two weeks earlier than last year and the robustness of their league is well-known, as is Mayo and Monaghan's. Nevertheless, the 11 weeks between their championship exit to Roscommon and the first round of their knock-out SFC is gaping.
On the flipside, three weeks after their hurlers' Joe McDonagh Cup campaign concluded, the Kerry senior championship commenced and wraps up in Austin Stack Park this Sunday.
It's not the first senior championship of the year to finish. In May, Dicksboro beat Lisdowney to win the Kilkenny SFC title. Carlow (June 21) and Wexford (July 5) began their senior hurling championships early.
Carlow are two games away from completion – Mount Leinster Rangers await the winners of the semi-final replay between St Mullin's and Bagenalstown Gaels.
In a change from the past four seasons, Wexford's championships are running concurrently this year. The first two rounds of both took place last month and hurling returns this weekend.
Tipperary have organised their championships over alternate weekends. The first round of their SHC began last weekend and the opening games of their SFC take place over the forthcoming days.
As in 2023, Cork and Limerick's hurling championships kick into gear this Bank Holiday weekend as does the Clare SFC. Clare hurling begins the week after. Football winners Armagh's blue riband football competitions will fire up in the middle of this month, three weeks after beating Galway.
The Donegal and Monaghan SFCs start the weekend after next and Mayo's seven days later – Castlebar Mitchels face off against Westport in the Division 1 final on Saturday.
Following a decision last year, Leinster have given two more weeks to counties to complete their championships. Their provincial competitions are due to commence in November, the SFC on the weekend of November 2 and their SHC on November 16.
The Kilkenny senior hurling league, which feeds into the championships, gets going on Friday when Dicksboro face Tullaroan. The opening round of the Dublin SFC is the weekend after next, the SHC having started on July 13. Other provinces may follow suit, especially if the entire All-Ireland club programme moves into January and/or the inter-county calendar is shifted to finish in August.

Fastest championship turnaround from inter-county exit: Cork hurling, Kerry club football (2 weeks).
Slowest turnaround: Fermanagh and Tyrone football (11 weeks).
Longest senior championship: Wexford hurling (38 games).
Longest including divisions: Tipperary hurling (58 games).
Shortest: Tyrone football (15 games).
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on August 02, 2024, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)
Be surprised to see Errigal win Tyrone. Dungannon or Trillick for me.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RandyDupree on August 03, 2024, 12:47:33 AM
Down - Burren
Armagh - Clann Eireann
Tyrone - Dungannon
Derry - Magherafelt
Antrim - Creggan
Fermanagh - Derrygonnelly
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 03, 2024, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 06:38:51 PMYous are sleeping on Cullyhanna. If they can get themselves close to the levels of last winter they're a match for anyone.
Not convinced by Cullyhanna as genuine contenders. Just off a home defeat to St Peter's last night. Them, Maghery and Ballymacnab won't be easy bate in the groups though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 03, 2024, 09:32:31 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 03, 2024, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 06:38:51 PMYous are sleeping on Cullyhanna. If they can get themselves close to the levels of last winter they're a match for anyone.
Not convinced by Cullyhanna as genuine contenders. Just off a home defeat to St Peter's last night. Them, Maghery and Ballymacnab won't be easy bate in the groups though.
They'd a good few injuries lately I think plus obviously the county lads to come back. Suppose it depends on if they can reach last years levels which is a big ask to be fair.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 03, 2024, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 03, 2024, 09:32:31 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 03, 2024, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 31, 2024, 06:38:51 PMYous are sleeping on Cullyhanna. If they can get themselves close to the levels of last winter they're a match for anyone.
Not convinced by Cullyhanna as genuine contenders. Just off a home defeat to St Peter's last night. Them, Maghery and Ballymacnab won't be easy bate in the groups though.
They'd a good few injuries lately I think plus obviously the county lads to come back. Suppose it depends on if they can reach last years levels which is a big ask to be fair.
That's fair. Still think with a full compliment and all guns blazing they're not at the same level as Clann Eireann or Cross.

Still can't believe people are backing Burren in Down. The only way they'll win Down is if Carryduff topple Kilcoo for them and that's a big if.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AM
Can Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on August 03, 2024, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AMCan Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?

What's the Derry club championship structure - does this game matter?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RedHand88 on August 03, 2024, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 03, 2024, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AMCan Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?

What's the Derry club championship structure - does this game matter?

No I heard Glen are resting players. In a championship game which is a mad structure.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2024, 01:01:04 PM
That structure seems to work for them, 2 club final appearances in a row
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on August 03, 2024, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 03, 2024, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AMCan Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?

What's the Derry club championship structure - does this game matter?

Simple answer is no it doesn't, 4 out of the 6 teams in the group will go into the quarters, last year the group games were the most entertaining of the championship though
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on August 05, 2024, 04:24:13 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 03, 2024, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 03, 2024, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AMCan Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?

What's the Derry club championship structure - does this game matter?

No I heard Glen are resting players. In a championship game which is a mad structure.
Heard they rested players last year as well. Is this a common thing? I know in Tyrone if you have starting quality players anywhere near fit for championship they're more than likely going to play. Richie Donnelly played for Trillick last year after barely playing any league football. Couldn't imagine leaving important players out if they can play
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 05, 2024, 04:27:19 PM
Basically meaningless group game, good chance to get squad players game time and keep lads fresh for a campaign that they'll hope will last into the new year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Dreadnought on August 07, 2024, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

What league are Knockbride in in Cavan?

Senior  :)
How is a League Senior? What's the differentiator?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 03:25:13 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on August 07, 2024, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

What league are Knockbride in in Cavan?

Senior  :)
How is a League Senior? What's the differentiator?
Ah lads can we wait til the county championship are over before we start this craic again?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 03:27:30 PM
Forkhill in Armagh might do something in Ulster junior... not going to win it but might win a game or two which is an improvement. They won Armagh with probably a stronger side in 2020 but covid stopped them getting a run in Ulster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Dreadnought on August 09, 2024, 08:51:35 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 07, 2024, 03:25:13 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on August 07, 2024, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AMClub Championships starting all over the country in the next week or two. So said I'd get a thread going.

My Predictions for each championship below for what its worth.

Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington

All Ireland intermediate - Austin Stacks (Kerry)
All Ireland Junior - Ballymacelliot (Kerry) or Knockbride (Cavan)

What league are Knockbride in in Cavan?

Senior  :)
How is a League Senior? What's the differentiator?
Ah lads can we wait til the county championship are over before we start this craic again?
Someone else started this, just replying to it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on August 09, 2024, 09:11:02 AM
How is a league 'senior' ? Well....
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on August 09, 2024, 09:12:48 AM
Division 1 Knockbride failed to beat Mid Table Division 3 side Drung in the championship opener last night.

Its almost like league positions aren't the be all and end all.

Drung 1-13 0-16 Knockbride
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on August 09, 2024, 09:17:04 AM
Tyrone is probably the only place where Club Leagues matter?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on August 09, 2024, 09:20:50 AM
Congratulations in advance to Kerry for another All-Ireland Junior Club Championship crown, stellar mentality lads well done 👏

Anything to be said for an All-Ireland Novice to include the remaining Kerry clubs who don't have a route to Croke?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shawshank on August 09, 2024, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: Brendan on August 03, 2024, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 03, 2024, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AMCan Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?

What's the Derry club championship structure - does this game matter?

Simple answer is no it doesn't, 4 out of the 6 teams in the group will go into the quarters, last year the group games were the most entertaining of the championship though

Total bollox, there are only three teams who are certain of getting through in the 2 groups. Thats Glen, S'neil & Magherafelt. S'neil and M'felt will play their full teams, they have no choice to get high in their own group to avoid a very tough quarterfinal. You top your group you play the team placed fourth in the other group-an easier draw in theory. Glen can afford to rest some players, not many-the only two who did not appear in last weekends game in which they lost was Jack Doherty and Glass. They know they will come out of the group regardless due to how strong they are and then ramp it up at that quarterfinal stage. ( only a small handful of teams in Ireland can give them a game) The remaining 9 teams will be at full strength unless they have injured players, and will have to take each game seriously as 2 teams from the two group of 6 will be eliminated after the group, top 4 from each group into quarterfinal. Its a tough c'ship. We lost last weekend to Bellaghy in the first group game and we are now under serious pressure, with both Glen and S'neil to play we have a battle to get to to the quarterfinal.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on August 09, 2024, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: tiempo on August 09, 2024, 09:20:50 AMCongratulations in advance to Kerry for another All-Ireland Junior Club Championship crown, stellar mentality lads well done 👏

Anything to be said for an All-Ireland Novice to include the remaining Kerry clubs who don't have a route to Croke?

Didn't know Arva was in Kerry......????
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lurganblue on August 09, 2024, 11:55:18 AM
I know Cross are strong bookies favourites in Armagh but I think Clann Eireann are real value for money, as much as I dont like to say that  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on August 09, 2024, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2024, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: tiempo on August 09, 2024, 09:20:50 AMCongratulations in advance to Kerry for another All-Ireland Junior Club Championship crown, stellar mentality lads well done 👏

Anything to be said for an All-Ireland Novice to include the remaining Kerry clubs who don't have a route to Croke?

Didn't know Arva was in Kerry......????

Take it from me, they aren't
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Dreadnought on August 09, 2024, 02:39:26 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 09, 2024, 09:12:48 AMDivision 1 Knockbride failed to beat Mid Table Division 3 side Drung in the championship opener last night.

Its almost like league positions aren't the be all and end all.

Drung 1-13 0-16 Knockbride
Exactly. League played early season with no county men means some teams can look better and catch other teams out. Either way, Knockbride got relegated this year in League, and have been Junior for many years now (maybe 15 or more years?). They last won a Championship of any form in 2000 (Intermediate) before falling down to Junior soon after, so are absolutely a Junior level Championship team on all known form, no matter what a Spring league might say.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on August 09, 2024, 03:02:47 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 09, 2024, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: Brendan on August 03, 2024, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 03, 2024, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 03, 2024, 11:13:11 AMCan Slaughtneil v Glen be watched anywhere tonight?

What's the Derry club championship structure - does this game matter?

Simple answer is no it doesn't, 4 out of the 6 teams in the group will go into the quarters, last year the group games were the most entertaining of the championship though

Total bollox, there are only three teams who are certain of getting through in the 2 groups. Thats Glen, S'neil & Magherafelt. S'neil and M'felt will play their full teams, they have no choice to get high in their own group to avoid a very tough quarterfinal. You top your group you play the team placed fourth in the other group-an easier draw in theory. Glen can afford to rest some players, not many-the only two who did not appear in last weekends game in which they lost was Jack Doherty and Glass. They know they will come out of the group regardless due to how strong they are and then ramp it up at that quarterfinal stage. ( only a small handful of teams in Ireland can give them a game) The remaining 9 teams will be at full strength unless they have injured players, and will have to take each game seriously as 2 teams from the two group of 6 will be eliminated after the group, top 4 from each group into quarterfinal. Its a tough c'ship. We lost last weekend to Bellaghy in the first group game and we are now under serious pressure, with both Glen and S'neil to play we have a battle to get to to the quarterfinal.

The question was did Glen V Slaughtneil group game matter, and you've admitted yourself no it didn't as both will inevitably progress
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 09, 2024, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2024, 09:17:04 AMTyrone is probably the only place where Club Leagues matter?
Armagh. League place decides both seeding and championship grading.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PM
Perhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PMPerhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
CE still favs obviously but I'm sure Cross not too worried. Clann Na Gael jumping about as if they won the championship. Cross made wee boys of them when it counted last year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PMPerhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
CE still favs obviously but I'm sure Cross not too worried. Clann Na Gael jumping about as if they won the championship. Cross made wee boys of them when it counted last year.

Clann Eireann win pulling up this year. CnG and Cullyhanna be strong too. We flattered last year and it won't happen this year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh4sam2024 on August 18, 2024, 07:32:12 PM
What trampish act was Rian O'Neill sent off for this time?  Not the first time he's been given the line if rumours around Cross are true...?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 18, 2024, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PMPerhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
CE still favs obviously but I'm sure Cross not too worried. Clann Na Gael jumping about as if they won the championship. Cross made wee boys of them when it counted last year.

Clann Eireann win pulling up this year. CnG and Cullyhanna be strong too. We flattered last year and it won't happen this year.
One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that. Two O'Neill's still in holiday mode and can't blame them. Minus AK and Jamie from last year. Still adjusting. I'd say Sarsfields will get an almighty hammering next week.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PMPerhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
CE still favs obviously but I'm sure Cross not too worried. Clann Na Gael jumping about as if they won the championship. Cross made wee boys of them when it counted last year.

Clann Eireann win pulling up this year. CnG and Cullyhanna be strong too. We flattered last year and it won't happen this year.
yeah yeah lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PMPerhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
CE still favs obviously but I'm sure Cross not too worried. Clann Na Gael jumping about as if they won the championship. Cross made wee boys of them when it counted last year.

Clann Eireann win pulling up this year. CnG and Cullyhanna be strong too. We flattered last year and it won't happen this year.
yeah yeah lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on August 18, 2024, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 18, 2024, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 18, 2024, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2024, 04:02:25 PMPerhaps there will be more realistic odds in Armagh after the opening games for the perceived contenders.
CE still favs obviously but I'm sure Cross not too worried. Clann Na Gael jumping about as if they won the championship. Cross made wee boys of them when it counted last year.

Clann Eireann win pulling up this year. CnG and Cullyhanna be strong too. We flattered last year and it won't happen this year.
One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that. Two O'Neill's still in holiday mode and can't blame them. Minus AK and Jamie from last year. Still adjusting. I'd say Sarsfields will get an almighty hammering next week.

Where is Jamie?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PM
Cross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on August 19, 2024, 07:22:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on August 18, 2024, 07:32:12 PMWhat trampish act was Rian O'Neill sent off for this time?  Not the first time he's been given the line if rumours around Cross are true...?

get a life
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on August 19, 2024, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PMCross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.

I think he got a straight red. Didnt see the ref - and I agree with you about him by the way - flash a yellow before the red? Take nothing away from the Clans though. Theyll certainly be in the mix again
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 19, 2024, 07:57:31 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PMCross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.
I thought he was quite hard on Clan na Gael, certainly the home supporters weren't too endeared by him. Men running about with their shirts completely ripped off, a text book black card offence ignored, a penalty to Rangers and persistent off the ball crap ignored.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on August 19, 2024, 08:57:14 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 19, 2024, 07:57:31 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PMCross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.
I thought he was quite hard on Clan na Gael, certainly the home supporters weren't too endeared by him. Men running about with their shirts completely ripped off, a text book black card offence ignored, a penalty to Rangers and persistent off the ball crap ignored.

Maybe the players could take a bit of responsibility?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: illdecide on August 19, 2024, 10:09:12 AM
I'm 80% sure Rian got a straight red at the end there but was at the far side, old age & them colours all look the same from that distance.
It was a decent game with both teams having their chances, I thought Clans just about deserved it but we're under no illusion that Cross will be a different animal later in the Championship (like last year) and will get better. Clans are a young team and maybe a few younger ones got a wee bit carried away with the win but sure for them beating Cross in a Championship games is unheard off so let them have their 5 mins of joy.
Though the Ref was ok, a few ones i was frustrated with and a few soft enough too so suppose they evened themselves out. Was standing beside a few North Armagh ones (club not disclosed) who let a few roars out of them when Cross scored their two early goals, I suppose it's their prerogative who they cheer for but you'd think if they have any ambition of winning the Championship they'd want the big guns out early.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on August 19, 2024, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 19, 2024, 10:09:12 AMI'm 80% sure Rian got a straight red at the end there but was at the far side, old age & them colours all look the same from that distance.
It was a decent game with both teams having their chances, I thought Clans just about deserved it but we're under no illusion that Cross will be a different animal later in the Championship (like last year) and will get better. Clans are a young team and maybe a few younger ones got a wee bit carried away with the win but sure for them beating Cross in a Championship games is unheard off so let them have their 5 mins of joy.
Though the Ref was ok, a few ones i was frustrated with and a few soft enough too so suppose they evened themselves out. Was standing beside a few North Armagh ones (club not disclosed) who let a few roars out of them when Cross scored their two early goals, I suppose it's their prerogative who they cheer for but you'd think if they have any ambition of winning the Championship they'd want the big guns out early.
Cross and Clans are both going to qualify regardless so while the result is a good one for the Lurgan mens belief probably won't matter in the grand scheme of things.  Clan na gael will benefit from being drawn in the same group as Cross as repeat pairings means they won't play again to final in all likelyhood should both teams go that far.  Impressive wins for Cullyhanna and Harps, Clann Eireann did what they expected to do. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2024, 01:07:11 PM
What did Rian do for the red didnt seem to be picked up?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on August 19, 2024, 04:32:26 PM
A results round up. https://www.gaa.ie/article/weekend-s-senior-club-championship-gaelic-football-results?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Applesisapples on August 21, 2024, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 19, 2024, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PMCross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.

I think he got a straight red. Didnt see the ref - and I agree with you about him by the way - flash a yellow before the red? Take nothing away from the Clans though. Theyll certainly be in the mix again
Perhaps I was mistaken, I thought I saw him flash the yellow, but whilst Cross were poor Clans looked a good team and Soupy played really well as did McPartlan, of the Cross Armagh contingent only Cian Mcconville looked like he cared.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: maddog on August 21, 2024, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 21, 2024, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 19, 2024, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PMCross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.

I think he got a straight red. Didnt see the ref - and I agree with you about him by the way - flash a yellow before the red? Take nothing away from the Clans though. Theyll certainly be in the mix again
Perhaps I was mistaken, I thought I saw him flash the yellow, but whilst Cross were poor Clans looked a good team and Soupy played really well as did McPartlan, of the Cross Armagh contingent only Cian Mcconville looked like he cared.

Just looked at it again on GAAGO, ref had back to the camera but looked to me like he flashed a straight red. Couldn't see any yellow.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on August 21, 2024, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 21, 2024, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 19, 2024, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 18, 2024, 11:32:49 PMCross missed a lot in the game, but Clans were superb.Some great young players. Rian got two yellows nothing trampish about them. Ref was eccentric and in my view favoured Clans at times. Still deserved victory for them but Cross look like they have a gear or two.

I think he got a straight red. Didnt see the ref - and I agree with you about him by the way - flash a yellow before the red? Take nothing away from the Clans though. Theyll certainly be in the mix again
Perhaps I was mistaken, I thought I saw him flash the yellow, but whilst Cross were poor Clans looked a good team and Soupy played really well as did McPartlan, of the Cross Armagh contingent only Cian Mcconville looked like he cared.

you could be right mate. Agree with the rest. Soupy alluded to the fact cross wouldnt be at it in his post game IV also
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on August 21, 2024, 09:31:28 PM
Hear we might get a Tyrone championship match on TG4 this year as Tyrone TV coverage is not happening??

What has happened there? I remember discussing it here last year and stating their approach wasn't very sensible (covering every single game live, rather than selecting attractive fixtures for coverage). Especially in the dodgy stick era.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on August 22, 2024, 09:16:47 AM
Lol, Dungannon gobshite told me that
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on August 25, 2024, 10:08:22 PM
David  Clifford scores 3-8 for Fossa but still finishes on the losing side😲
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on August 25, 2024, 11:24:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 25, 2024, 10:08:22 PMDavid  Clifford scores 3-8 for Fossa but still finishes on the losing side😲
3-5 from 8 shots in the 1st half alone. 'If we have the ball, David Clifford doesn't have it' manager Liam Hassett said post-match. Ten points from the Eoghan Hassett, son of Adrian helped Laune Rangers on their way to winning.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 26, 2024, 12:07:01 AM
In Kildare Naas won handily and without Kirwan. They should do it again and push hard for Leinster.

Like in fairness they would have 1 already but for Shane Walsh transfer...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on August 26, 2024, 11:21:49 AM
Clann eireann beat by maghery in Armagh the two big favourites beat in group stages and cullyhanna after a good win first day drew yesterday.as open as Armagh been in long time clan na Gael been most impressive to date.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on August 26, 2024, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: statto on August 26, 2024, 11:21:49 AMClann eireann beat by maghery in Armagh the two big favourites beat in group stages and cullyhanna after a good win first day drew yesterday.as open as Armagh been in long time clan na Gael been most impressive to date.

And Turbo got a red card, which may reduce CE for a game or two.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 26, 2024, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: statto on August 26, 2024, 11:21:49 AMClann eireann beat by maghery in Armagh the two big favourites beat in group stages and cullyhanna after a good win first day drew yesterday.as open as Armagh been in long time clan na Gael been most impressive to date.
Wouldn't read too much into it at this stage. I'd expect Clann Eireann and Cross to turn it up a notch as the championship progresses. Could be a couple of banana skins for Cross though as they have to go through the play offs now.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on August 26, 2024, 01:42:13 PM
Isn't this the All Ireland Club Championship thread not just Armagh?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 26, 2024, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 26, 2024, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: statto on August 26, 2024, 11:21:49 AMClann eireann beat by maghery in Armagh the two big favourites beat in group stages and cullyhanna after a good win first day drew yesterday.as open as Armagh been in long time clan na Gael been most impressive to date.
Wouldn't read too much into it at this stage. I'd expect Clann Eireann and Cross to turn it up a notch as the championship progresses. Could be a couple of banana skins for Cross though as they have to go through the play offs now.
Extra game probably not ideal, Cross should have too much for Sarsfields and Granemore. Not sure when Cross will play their refixture from the weekend though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on August 26, 2024, 04:36:36 PM
A match in Meath at the weekend with a period of play that looked more like rugby.


https://x.com/Shane_Mangan/status/1827770522718884321
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2024, 09:25:30 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 26, 2024, 04:36:36 PMA match in Meath at the weekend with a period of play that looked more like rugby.


https://x.com/Shane_Mangan/status/1827770522718884321


Ref has to take some of the blame here, there was a soft free early doors, and then in the ruck a clean pick up off the ground
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 27, 2024, 09:55:37 AM
Surely the hop ball is his get out clause when it gets to that
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2024, 10:46:34 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 27, 2024, 09:55:37 AMSurely the hop ball is his get out clause when it gets to that

The hop ball generally descends into another maul! look for the soft free and move on ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 27, 2024, 04:37:02 PM
All-Ireland club thread should not be taking in general county club championship, simply keep to their own county thread
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on August 27, 2024, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 27, 2024, 04:37:02 PMAll-Ireland club thread should not be taking in general county club championship, simply keep to their own county thread

Fine, in which case we don't need a thread until October.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 27, 2024, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: Brendan on August 26, 2024, 01:42:13 PMIsn't this the All Ireland Club Championship thread not just Armagh?
Feel free to discuss any other championship....
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on August 27, 2024, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 27, 2024, 04:37:02 PMAll-Ireland club thread should not be taking in general county club championship, simply keep to their own county thread
Sure the all ireland competitors have to come from somewhere.

Fairly unlikely anyone in Armagh makes a dent in Ulster this year bar maybe Forkhill at junior.

Clann Eireann would be decent at Ulster level if they get there and would obviously be great to see Cross get a good run in Ulster given what that clubs had to deal with this week.

Realistically Ulster will be going to Glen again though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2024, 10:15:59 AM
Some interesting stuff here....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41464324.html
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: joemamas on August 28, 2024, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 27, 2024, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: Brendan on August 26, 2024, 01:42:13 PMIsn't this the All Ireland Club Championship thread not just Armagh?
Feel free to discuss any other championship....

How about Kerry  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2024, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 27, 2024, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 27, 2024, 04:37:02 PMAll-Ireland club thread should not be taking in general county club championship, simply keep to their own county thread
Sure the all ireland competitors have to come from somewhere.

Fairly unlikely anyone in Armagh makes a dent in Ulster this year bar maybe Forkhill at junior.

Clann Eireann would be decent at Ulster level if they get there and would obviously be great to see Cross get a good run in Ulster given what that clubs had to deal with this week.

Realistically Ulster will be going to Glen again though.

I thought both teams looked decidedly ordinary in that game, might be early days with lots of room to improve. But on that showing neither team would count against the more serious contenders in Ulster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PM
Dingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

The County Championship in Kerry starts weekend of 15 September when most of the club championships will be over.

Templenoe v Feale Rangers
St Brendan's v South Kerry

Milltown v Spa
Rathmore v East Kerry

Kenmare v Dr Crokes
Na Gaeil v Shannon Rangers

St Kieran's v West Kerry
Mid Kerry v Dingle

Losers in Round 1 get a back door.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on August 30, 2024, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2024, 10:46:34 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 27, 2024, 09:55:37 AMSurely the hop ball is his get out clause when it gets to that

The hop ball generally descends into another maul! look for the soft free and move on ;)
Sure the soft free (out, always out)  immediately follows the hop! Thought you were a ref?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2024, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 30, 2024, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2024, 10:46:34 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 27, 2024, 09:55:37 AMSurely the hop ball is his get out clause when it gets to that

The hop ball generally descends into another maul! look for the soft free and move on ;)
Sure the soft free (out, always out)  immediately follows the hop! Thought you were a ref?

Look for he soft free, the team takes the free, means its not a hop ball?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on August 30, 2024, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

The County Championship in Kerry starts weekend of 15 September when most of the club championships will be over.

Templenoe v Feale Rangers
St Brendan's v South Kerry

Milltown v Spa
Rathmore v East Kerry

Kenmare v Dr Crokes
Na Gaeil v Shannon Rangers

St Kieran's v West Kerry
Mid Kerry v Dingle

Losers in Round 1 get a back door.

You would imagine that the likes of Templenoe has a small pick compared with the divisional teams.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lurganblue on August 30, 2024, 12:09:41 PM
What's all of this talk of championships outside of Armagh?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 30, 2024, 10:29:50 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 30, 2024, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

The County Championship in Kerry starts weekend of 15 September when most of the club championships will be over.

Templenoe v Feale Rangers
St Brendan's v South Kerry

Milltown v Spa
Rathmore v East Kerry

Kenmare v Dr Crokes
Na Gaeil v Shannon Rangers

St Kieran's v West Kerry
Mid Kerry v Dingle

Losers in Round 1 get a back door.

You would imagine that the likes of Templenoe has a small pick compared with the divisional teams.

Tiny pick, not even a primary school in their parish any more. And yet they have such quality you wouldn't back against them causing an upset or 2.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on September 02, 2024, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

The County Championship in Kerry starts weekend of 15 September when most of the club championships will be over.

Templenoe v Feale Rangers
St Brendan's v South Kerry

Milltown v Spa
Rathmore v East Kerry

Kenmare v Dr Crokes
Na Gaeil v Shannon Rangers

St Kieran's v West Kerry
Mid Kerry v Dingle

Losers in Round 1 get a back door.

Do the 8 winners play each other and the 8 losers or how does this work?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 02, 2024, 09:54:21 PM
Cross back on track with a narrow win against Sarsfields. Lovely touch from the Sarsfields lads to give Cross a guard of honour.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on September 02, 2024, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

Castlehaven won't get near Dr Crokes. Eire Og Ennis should win the Clare championship easily. Have a strong panel but can never beat kerry/Cork opposition.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on September 02, 2024, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 02, 2024, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

The County Championship in Kerry starts weekend of 15 September when most of the club championships will be over.

Templenoe v Feale Rangers
St Brendan's v South Kerry

Milltown v Spa
Rathmore v East Kerry

Kenmare v Dr Crokes
Na Gaeil v Shannon Rangers

St Kieran's v West Kerry
Mid Kerry v Dingle

Losers in Round 1 get a back door.

Do the 8 winners play each other and the 8 losers or how does this work?

Basically yes. See below..

16 teams total, the 8 senior clubs and 8 divisional teams.

Round 1 is an open draw, 8 games. The 8 winners go to Round 2A, the 8 losers go to Round 2B.

Round 2A will feature the 8 winning teams from Round 1. The 4 Winners of Round 2A go to Quarter-Finals. The 4 Losers of Round 2A go to Round 3.

Round 2B will feature the 8 losing teams from Round 1. The 4 Winners of Round 2B go to Round 3 and the losers exit the competition.

Round 3 will feature the 4 losers of 2A versus the 4 winners of 2B. The winners of Round 3 will go to the Quarter-Finals and the losers of Round 3 will exit the competition.

After Round 3, we will have the 8 Quarter-Final teams featuring the 4 winners of Round 2A against the 4 winners of Round 3.

Then Semi-Finals and Final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on September 02, 2024, 11:34:10 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on September 02, 2024, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

Castlehaven won't get near Dr Crokes. Eire Og Ennis should win the Clare championship easily. Have a strong panel but can never beat kerry/Cork opposition.

I disagree on the Haven, they will give Crokes trouble as they will be have the physicality and they have a big threat up front if everyone is fit. They also have a Kerry coach who will know Crokes well.

All this predicated on Haven actually winning Cork which is not a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on September 02, 2024, 11:37:46 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 28, 2024, 05:34:59 PMDingle v Dr Crokes in Kerry Senior club final Sunday, live on TG4 also. Should be a decent game.

Castlehaven are moving very well in Cork and will probably win the county there and be favourites to win Munster. Former Brigids manager Jerome Stack is coaching them. A rematch with Dingle in better conditions would be a great battle.

Castlehaven manager Seanie Cahalane  said this recently

Quote"Jerome takes the odd training session. He's not part of the management. He trained Castlehaven in 2018 and 2019. He would be good friends with one of our selectors Bernie Collins. He left St Brigid's after they lost the All-Ireland final. He comes to our matches every now and again, so he's a great fella to have around when he's around. He brings a lot of experience and different ideas."

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 03, 2024, 09:21:33 AM
Were Castlehaven the intermediate team Cullyhanna beat in the final last year?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on September 03, 2024, 09:44:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 03, 2024, 09:21:33 AMWere Castlehaven the intermediate team Cullyhanna beat in the final last year?
No, Cill na Martra
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Dreadnought on September 03, 2024, 11:59:07 AM
Cavan Championship very interesting so far. 3 of the 4 rounds of group games are played, with final group game round this Sunday with all games throwing in at the same time. The draw so far has thrown up odd pairings with most of the teams who would be favourites playing each other, and most of the weaker teams playing each other too. Means a few big teams likely to miss out on Top 8 and go into relegation as some supposed weaker sides have a few wins already. Gowna are going for 3 titles in a row, but have drawn 2 and lost 1 out of 3 so far, and need a win to go through (which still might not be enough), and they've a game this weekend against Killygarry who are also battling to get through. Kingscourt may have trouble getting through too. Sunday will be interesting
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on September 03, 2024, 01:04:53 PM
Am I right in thinking you can't meet the same team twice in those Cavan draws?
The Kerry system is the same as that being proposed for inter County AI next year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Dreadnought on September 03, 2024, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 03, 2024, 01:04:53 PMAm I right in thinking you can't meet the same team twice in those Cavan draws?
The Kerry system is the same as that being proposed for inter County AI next year.
Initially yes. In the group draws, there are no repeat pairings in the 4 group games. However with the table being 12, the bottom 4 goes to relegation playoffs, and the top 8 into quarter finals, repeat games might happen then. So 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7 and so on means you might get a repeat. Then it's open draw from semis for those 4 winners
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on September 22, 2024, 06:55:26 PM
Last seasons losing Finalists St Brigids knocked out of Ros SFC today by the oul dogs (and some new pupeens) Pearses.
2 point margin.
Ros Gaels by Boyle by 3
Fáithleachs bt Clann na nG by 1 after extra time yesterday while a last kick penalty gave Glaveys a 2 points win over Oran.
Nobody has retained a Ros Championship in 7 or 8 years.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2024, 11:07:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2024, 06:55:26 PMLast seasons losing Finalists St Brigids knocked out of Ros SFC today by the oul dogs (and some new pupeens) Pearses.
2 point margin.
Ros Gaels by Boyle by 3
Fáithleachs bt Clann na nG by 1 after extra time yesterday while a last kick penalty gave Glaveys a 2 points win over Oran.
Nobody has retained a Ros Championship in 7 or 8 years.

It's better than the Tyrone championship then.. case closed  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on September 22, 2024, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2024, 06:55:26 PMLast seasons losing Finalists St Brigids knocked out of Ros SFC today by the oul dogs (and some new pupeens) Pearses.
2 point margin.
Ros Gaels by Boyle by 3
Fáithleachs bt Clann na nG by 1 after extra time yesterday while a last kick penalty gave Glaveys a 2 points win over Oran.
Nobody has retained a Ros Championship in 7 or 8 years.

Always knew ye were into diversity in Roscommon. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on September 22, 2024, 11:15:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2024, 06:55:26 PMLast seasons losing Finalists St Brigids knocked out of Ros SFC today by the oul dogs (and some new pupeens) Pearses.
2 point margin.
Ros Gaels by Boyle by 3
Fáithleachs bt Clann na nG by 1 after extra time yesterday while a last kick penalty gave Glaveys a 2 points win over Oran.
Nobody has retained a Ros Championship in 7 or 8 years.

They should play off against the Tyrone champions to see who the best club team in Ireland is.  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PM
All the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 23, 2024, 12:00:47 AM
Quote from: marty34 on September 22, 2024, 11:15:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2024, 06:55:26 PMLast seasons losing Finalists St Brigids knocked out of Ros SFC today by the oul dogs (and some new pupeens) Pearses.
2 point margin.
Ros Gaels by Boyle by 3
Fáithleachs bt Clann na nG by 1 after extra time yesterday while a last kick penalty gave Glaveys a 2 points win over Oran.
Nobody has retained a Ros Championship in 7 or 8 years.

They should play off against the Tyrone champions to see who the best club team in Ireland is.  ;D

They're going for most dramatic Cship now Marty going by the other thread 😋
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on September 23, 2024, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
All Championships have knock out stages.
Most Counties filter out the weaker teams first.
We had drama this weekend too and we've won 2 of the last 3 Provincial Club SFCs but maybe that doesn't count.....
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 12:25:46 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 23, 2024, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
All Championships have knock out stages.
Most Counties filter out the weaker teams first.
We had drama this weekend too and we've won 2 of the last 3 Provincial Club SFCs but maybe that doesn't count.....
... eventually.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on September 23, 2024, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 12:25:46 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 23, 2024, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
All Championships have knock out stages.
Most Counties filter out the weaker teams first.
We had drama this weekend too and we've won 2 of the last 3 Provincial Club SFCs but maybe that doesn't count.....
... eventually.

Reluctantly

Given the chance 2/3 of counties would award medals for participation, Mayo and Down especially
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 23, 2024, 10:29:23 AM
Who actually gives a f**k.
 It's competitive, which is good. Winners don't tend to do well in Ulster as top level bit below other counties imo.
As for format. Wouldn't change it. Give me the straight knock out any day of the week imo. Love the Championship.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
They probably won't but it is the most exciting and competitive. Do you really celebrate other clubs in your county winning a Provincial title? Only one I  celebrate is my own.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 23, 2024, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 23, 2024, 10:29:23 AMWho actually gives a f**k.
 It's competitive, which is good. Winners don't tend to do well in Ulster as top level bit below other counties imo.
As for format. Wouldn't change it. Give me the straight knock out any day of the week imo. Love the Championship.

Agree
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on September 23, 2024, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
They probably won't but it is the most exciting and competitive. Do you really celebrate other clubs in your county winning a Provincial title? Only one I  celebrate is my own.

In Love Ulster we celebrate all success equally
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 11:33:11 AM
Quote from: tiempo on September 23, 2024, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
They probably won't but it is the most exciting and competitive. Do you really celebrate other clubs in your county winning a Provincial title? Only one I  celebrate is my own.

In Love Ulster we celebrate all success equally
I like to see Ulster teams do well in All Ireland series but as far as who wins Ulster am not too bothered. Good answer tho 😄
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
They probably won't but it is the most exciting and competitive. Do you really celebrate other clubs in your county winning a Provincial title? Only one I  celebrate is my own.
No I don't celebrate anything outside my own club, unlike you.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
They probably won't but it is the most exciting and competitive. Do you really celebrate other clubs in your county winning a Provincial title? Only one I  celebrate is my own.
No I don't celebrate anything outside my own club, unlike you.
Strange comment... said same as me adding 'unlike you'  wtf!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on September 23, 2024, 01:06:30 PM
When was the last time a Tyrone Club:
Won an Ulster SFC title?
Won a game in the Ulster SFC?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 01:20:26 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 23, 2024, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 22, 2024, 11:42:25 PMAll the aul slagging of the Tyrone championship which is a real championship, not a rake of meaningless games before the knock-out stages. This weekend was great drama again... no wonder so many Derry and Armagh ones go to it. Jealousy is rife on the Board...
Self-praise is no praise. You Tyronies love blowing hot air up your own arses. We all know that Trillick whoever gets out of Tyrone won't be good enough to win Ulster.
They probably won't but it is the most exciting and competitive. Do you really celebrate other clubs in your county winning a Provincial title? Only one I  celebrate is my own.
No I don't celebrate anything outside my own club, unlike you.
Strange comment... said same as me adding 'unlike you'  wtf!
How's it strange? You asked me did I celebrate the fortunes of other clubs, which I don't. You clearly do, w**king away over Errigal Ciaran drawing with Clonoe like it's some sort anomaly that wouldn't happen at any given day in any other county  ;D 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2024, 06:33:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 23, 2024, 01:06:30 PMWhen was the last time a Tyrone Club:
Won an Ulster SFC title?
Won a game in the Ulster SFC?

Errigal Ciaran only club to have won it, 1993 and 2002.

Trillick beat us last year by 5 points and then were beaten by Scotstown in the semi.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2024, 08:17:52 PM
Once in 30yrs then!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2024, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2024, 08:17:52 PMOnce in 30yrs then!

That would be right
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 09:02:48 PM
More about the collective here... coming down with All Ireland titles at all levels... Tír Eoghain ✨️
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2024, 07:22:20 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 09:02:48 PMMore about the collective here... coming down with All Ireland titles at all levels... Tír Eoghain ✨️

Correct but wrong thread  ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 24, 2024, 08:05:53 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 23, 2024, 09:02:48 PMMore about the collective here... coming down with All Ireland titles at all levels... Tír Eoghain ✨️

Individually, yez are just about tolerable.

Collectively....
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on September 24, 2024, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 23, 2024, 01:06:30 PMWhen was the last time a Tyrone Club:
Won an Ulster SFC title?
Won a game in the Ulster SFC?
Literally last year?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AM
See below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696


Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on September 25, 2024, 11:56:45 AM
In Roscommon a B team can't be promoted to the same level as their A Team.
Can't recall it arising.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shark on September 25, 2024, 12:36:22 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696




I'm pretty sure St.Brigid's had two teams in Dublin senior football, about 15 years ago. They drew each other in the first round.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 04:14:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

How many players do CE have to name as senior players?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 04:14:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

How many players do CE have to name as senior players?
Is it 24? Not 100% sure.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on September 25, 2024, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

They were in 3b as it was their first year. Tell us how many came down from the first team after the league
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on September 25, 2024, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 25, 2024, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

They were in 3b as it was their first year. Tell us how many came down from the first team after the league
There are fellas I'm nearly sure played for the seniors during the league and are named in the junior panel.

The squads are all on the Armagh website, and there looks to be a bit of a crossover of half a dozen or so. What exactly is the criteria? I take it they don't have to name two standalone panels then?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 25, 2024, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 25, 2024, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

They were in 3b as it was their first year. Tell us how many came down from the first team after the league
There are fellas I'm nearly sure played for the seniors during the league and are named in the junior panel.

The squads are all on the Armagh website, and there looks to be a bit of a crossover of half a dozen or so. What exactly is the criteria? I take it they don't have to name two standalone panels then?
I think they have to name x amount (24?) who can only play senior and the test can go between as needed.

Their league and championship team must have changed a fair bit whether that's minors coming in or first team players coming down. Surely the squad that finished middle of 2b didn't suddenly beat the 2b winners (who hammered them twice) and then a team that came 3rd in 2a and the team who won 2a?

Either way, they've a fair chance of making an intermediate and senior final, have 3 starters on the all ireland winning team and a few more panelists, 2 all star nominations and the likely footballer of the year.

Something seriously being done right down there, must be something special in the buckfast these days! ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on September 26, 2024, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 10:52:55 PMSomething seriously being done right down there, must be something special in the buckfast these days! ;)

Clann Eireann have done admirable work in the last 15-20 years.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 07, 2024, 11:02:09 PM
Kerry at the semi-final stage 12/13 Oct.

Dr. Crokes v St. Brendan's

Dingle v East Kerry.

For the Munster Club Championship, Kerry's entrant will be Dingle if Dingle win the County Championship, otherwise it will be Dr. Crokes.

St. Brendan's team can be best described as Austin Stacks backs and Kerins O'Rahilly's forwards, with one of each midfield (Joe O'Connor and David Moran).
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on October 09, 2024, 10:51:38 PM
From the Irish Examiner

Due to player welfare concerns, and the threat of burnout, it has been decided that most members of the Kerry senior football squad will not line out in district board championships over the next two months.
With the split-season leading to elite players being constantly in action, a break from competitive fare is now on the agenda.

Kerry is an unusual case in having three different championships taking place after the conclusion of the inter-county campaign — club championships, county championship, and district championships.
At Tuesday night's Kerry County Board meeting, Beaufort delegate Ken O'Sullivan asked chairman Patrick O'Sullivan if the executive was aware of an instruction to county senior players not to make themselves available for the forthcoming District Board Championships and if the executive is aware of the request, then what is their opinion.
The chairman confirmed that the executive had been given the heads-up by a number of clubs that a letter was circulating.

"Basically it is not county board policy to prevent any player for turning out to play for his club," O'Sullivan said. "I spoke to Jack O'Connor about it and he assured me that he had not issued any instructions to Kerry players not to play for their clubs. I spoke to the Kerry captain and he told me that, yes they were hoping (the players) that they would not be asked to line out this year in the local championships.
"Because of the length of the season in Kerry, burnout fears that lead to injuries and the fact that the players felt they needed some down time before they return to collective training again with Kerry on December 7th. This is also in line with "zero contact" month sought by the player's body for November.
"The danger of burnout for the intercounty player and dual player was well flagged before any decision was taken on the introduction of the split season. The split season was supported by this county and this is one of the downsides of it."
He added: "It would be wrong in my view to force players to play in the district board championships when they need a break. The request by the players should be respected. Their service and commitment to the county and to their clubs from underage to senior level has surely earned them the right to have their request to be supported and understood.
O'Sullivan also responded to a similar query from Mid Kerry secretary Mike Sayers, who said the stance taken by Kerry players was causing disquiet around the county.

"Players' welfare must come first," the chairman added. "We have three stages for a player during the season — 1, full break, 2 pre-season and 3, season."
He emphasised that just 12 clubs would be affected, eight senior and that only the Mid Kerry and East Kerry competitions would be affected. He also reminded that delegates that Dingle or Dr Crokes players will be involved in Munster Club competitions in November anyway, while Austin Stacks or Laune Rangers players will also be in provincial action.
The Chairman repeated it was not board policy to prevent players playing, rather a request from the players themselves to have their welfare considered.
"Some of the top players carry the heaviest load in regards to game time. No player is prevented from playing, all players in the squad face the same demands as regards training and playing.
"In 2024, Kerry panel members and the extended squad played 18 competitive games plus had 100 training sessions and all players play AvB games on the weekends that they are not playing competitive games. Some of these games are as demanding as any club championship games.

"I want to emphasise again that no player is being prevented from playing with anyone; it's the player's decision. If he feels that he is tired or wants a break for his mental health reasons, then the Kerry players want to ensure that he is not left isolated or subjected to undue pressure by a coach or manager to play when he clearly wants a break at this time of the year.
"No players from any other county are asked to play three championships once they exit the All-Ireland, whether it's early or late, and to the credit of our players turn out for their clubs in the championships when fresh, fit and free of injury.

"I think on the flip side if a player is feeling burnout and is feeling that either physically or mentally that he needs a break, then on welfare grounds he should be allowed this considering he has to play in three championships."
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 10, 2024, 11:36:00 PM
While the pulling of county players from district board championships will cause some disquiet I think in a lot of cases it's badly needed. The Cliffords for one thing have been flogged these past 2 years. Not helped by Jack calling on them for Rd2 of the league in Clones last year either when they were meant to have half the league off.

I think/hope that it will be players who are still in County Senior Championship that get pulled or "decide" not to play. But it will cause trouble in certain cases as the district championships have big tradition and interest in them.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on October 11, 2024, 12:41:13 PM
Perhaps there should be a rule that county players not play in at least one of the the district championships or in the
amalgamated teams in the county championships. This would give others a chance and would reduce burnout
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 11, 2024, 11:22:55 PM
Some winning run finally ended.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/womens-football/2024/1011/1475035-comeragh-end-ballymacarbrys-remarkable-42-year-run/
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on October 12, 2024, 12:30:18 PM
What's the story with the video of the Cushendall flag being taken down from a local spar?

Just a bit of banter or was there bitter loyalists involved?

Wouldn't have thought there be much loyalists in that neck of the woods.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on October 12, 2024, 05:25:18 PM
Result in the Leitrim senior final replay.  Mohill 0-15 Ballinamore 1-12.  Extra time to be played.   Just one score in the 1st half of extra time 0-16 to 1-12.

Result 0-17 to 1-14.  Match gone to penalties.    Mohill win on penalties, first time they have won back to back County titles.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on October 12, 2024, 06:38:51 PM
Mouth O'Hara got a red for continuous abuse of officials.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on October 13, 2024, 06:36:57 PM
Results from Leinster county finals today. Two replays required.

Laois - Portarlington 3-13 Portlaoise 0-13

Longford - Abbeylara 0-12 Colmcille 1-9

Offaly - Tullamore 0-15 Ferbane 0-14

Westmeath - The Down 1-13 St Lomans 1-13
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ranch on October 14, 2024, 01:28:21 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 10, 2024, 11:36:00 PMWhile the pulling of county players from district board championships will cause some disquiet I think in a lot of cases it's badly needed. The Cliffords for one thing have been flogged these past 2 years. Not helped by Jack calling on them for Rd2 of the league in Clones last year either when they were meant to have half the league off.

I think/hope that it will be players who are still in County Senior Championship that get pulled or "decide" not to play. But it will cause trouble in certain cases as the district championships have big tradition and interest in them.

Regarding the district championships, would certain areas take them more seriously than others? I've always got the impression that the South Kerry is taken quite serious? Would this be the same in all districts?
Also, would a club like St Mary's Cahersiveen view winning the South Kerry as a bigger deal than an All county junior/intermediate championship?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 15, 2024, 01:29:16 AM
Quote from: ranch on October 14, 2024, 01:28:21 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 10, 2024, 11:36:00 PMWhile the pulling of county players from district board championships will cause some disquiet I think in a lot of cases it's badly needed. The Cliffords for one thing have been flogged these past 2 years. Not helped by Jack calling on them for Rd2 of the league in Clones last year either when they were meant to have half the league off.

I think/hope that it will be players who are still in County Senior Championship that get pulled or "decide" not to play. But it will cause trouble in certain cases as the district championships have big tradition and interest in them.

Regarding the district championships, would certain areas take them more seriously than others? I've always got the impression that the South Kerry is taken quite serious? Would this be the same in all districts?
Also, would a club like St Mary's Cahersiveen view winning the South Kerry as a bigger deal than an All county junior/intermediate championship?

North Kerry, South Kerry are really keenly contested always, North Kerry especially. I mean there's been 3/4k at finals in recent years even still. St Mary's would value a South Kerry but they've won so many recently that no, I'd say a county title or anything bigger would rank above it. They're struggling in county Intermediate though currently.

West Kerry has been dominated by Dingle and Gaeltacht. They've a serious rivalry so that's a big game but the other 3 clubs are well below them over last 10 years sadly.
East Kerry (O'Donoghue cup) has potential to be very good but not as keenly contested as others, mainly due to Crokes, Rathmore putting so much into county championships. If Crokes are fixed to play in it over next month they'll likely put out a shadow of a first team.
Mid Kerry should be good standard this year. Milltown-Castlemaine the highest ranked team but I don't think they'd beat Laune Rangers or Beaufort if they are at full pelt. Glenbeigh/Glencar lost an Intermediate semi final and even Keel are a very strong Prem Junior team. Cromane are the also rans.
Brendans Board (encompassing Tralee) bizarrely don't even run a championship half the time. Only district that doesn't.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on October 18, 2024, 08:18:06 PM
Busy weekend ahead with no fewer than 23 county finals taking place across the country.


Saturday October 19

Westmeath SFC final replay

St Loman's Mullingar v The Downs, TEG Cusack Park, Iarmhí TV 3:00pm.

Leitrim SHC final

Carrick Hurling Club v Cluainín Iomaint, Drumshambo, 2:00pm.

Sunday October 20

Antrim SHC final

Dunloy v Ruairi Óg Cushendall, Ballycastle, 2:00pm.

Armagh SFC final

Clann Éireann v Clan na Gael, Athletic Grounds, Armagh TV, 4:15pm.

Cavan SFC final

Crosserlough v Ramor United, Kingspan Breffini, 4:00pm.

Clare SHC final

Sixmilebridge v Feakle, Cusack Park, Clare GAA TV, 3:00pm.

Cork SHC final

Imokilly v Sarsfields, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, TG4, 4:15pm.

Derry SHC final

Slaughtneil v Banagher, Owenbeg, 4:00pm.

Down SHC final

Ballygalget v St Patrick's, Páirc Esler, Down GAA TV, 4:00pm.

Fermanagh SFC final

Enniskillen Gaels v Erne Gaels Belleek, Brewster Park, Fermanagh GAA TV, 2:00pm.

Dublin SFC final

Cuala v Kilmacud Crokes, Parnell Park, TG4, 2:30pm.

London SFC final

St Kiernan's v North London Shamrocks, Ruislip, 2:30pm.

Louth SFC final

Naomh Mairtín v Ardee St Mary's, Haggardstown, 3:30pm.

Longford SFC final replay

Abbeylara v Colmcille, Glennon Brothers Pearse Park, 4pm

Mayo SFC final

Ballina Stephenites v Knockmore, McHale Park, Mayo GAA TV, 2:30pm.

Meath SFC final

Dunshaughlin v Wolfe Tones, Páirc Tailteann, Clubber TV, 3:00pm.

Offaly SHC final

Ballinamere v Kilcormac-Kiloughey, Glenisk O'Connor Park Clubber TV, 3:45pm.

Roscommon SFC final

Pádraig Pearses v Roscommon Gaels, Dr Hyde Park, Ros GAA TV, 2:00pm.

Tipperary SFC final

Clonmel Commercials v Loughmore-Castleiney, Semple Stadium, Clubber TV, 4:00pm.

Tyrone SFC final

Errigal Ciaran v Trillick St Macartan's Healy Park, Tyrone GAA TV, 4:00pm.

Sligo SHC final

Easkey v Naomh Eoin, Markievicz Park, Sligo GAA TV, 2:00pm.

Waterford SFC final

Ballinacourty v Rathgormack, Fraher Field Dungarvan, Clubber TV, 3:00pm.

Wicklow SFC final

Baltinglass v Tinahely, Aughrim, 2:00pm.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on October 18, 2024, 09:19:08 PM
With the stormy weather a lot more of the above game will likely be called off

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1018/1476277-mayo-sfc-final-falls-foul-to-storm-ashley/
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 20, 2024, 01:06:08 PM
Tyrone senior final off and in this weather all other finals should be off also however some county boards are daft enough to go ahead as planned.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on October 20, 2024, 03:42:51 PM
Cuala crokes cracking game here. Real intensity and both teams going for it. Some class hits, just real good football
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shark on October 20, 2024, 03:53:55 PM
Cuala deserved it. Great win. Nice to see new teams win championships.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 20, 2024, 04:03:36 PM
In Croke Park last year for Leinster Club match and seeing Walsh running amok and making me feel bad for poor little Naas was bad. But then Crokes added more lads this year.

Happy for Cuala. What happened with Con? Will an appeal be a runner?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 04:06:24 PM
Can't say that Sam......the game needs fixed into a new game apparently.
I totally agree with you. Super watch. Fitzsimmons is some defender and Con is some forward. Both real competitors and great leaders (don't know what Con did to get sent off?). They had other superb performances as well. Congratulations to them.
What a pass by Mannion too.

Leave the game alone lads. Its not about creating a score fest, needs intensity too and I think a lot of the players wanted to push that point in interviews after the game last night.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PM
Brilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PM
Great win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on October 20, 2024, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 04:06:24 PMCan't say that Sam......the game needs fixed into a new game apparently.
I totally agree with you. Super watch. Fitzsimmons is some defender and Con is some forward. Both real competitors and great leaders (don't know what Con did to get sent off?). They had other superb performances as well. Congratulations to them.
What a pass by Mannion too.

Leave the game alone lads. Its not about creating a score fest, needs intensity too and I think a lot of the players wanted to push that point in interviews after the game last night.

Yip I said in another thread it's not the rules are the problem it's management teams. Today we had 2 attacking teams who wanted to go for it, wasn't massive scoring but the intensity and quality was class.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PMGreat win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.

It goes to show you if you are whiling to source big sponsors and invest it in developing players - it will reap dividends.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 05:31:15 PM
That's true Sam. And the competitions. Everyone agrees that the National League in the winter months is a great competition and most knock out championship matches at club and county are decent and you get an odd clinker. And the attendances are great.
It's the mismatches at Provincial level and some unimportant group games that bring the level down and people don't go to.
And then a lot of the club championship games I watch on tv or live are real do or die stuff that mean so much to the players and communities.
Yes there are some bad games but there always will be.
And Jarlath wants to appeal to neutrals. I couldn't care less what neutrals think. When games that matter are on the crowds are there.
And then Jarlath also mentioned the ethos of the GAA and respect for officials. And I can agree with the sentiment of that though enforcement of a 50m penalty may bring a lot of heat on refs.
But what about the real ethos of the GAA, amateurism? Why would you want to put managers on professional contracts?
Surely the drive to make managers professional and change the game completely is too much for the grassroots and will be voted against.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on October 20, 2024, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 05:31:15 PMThat's true Sam. And the competitions. Everyone agrees that the National League in the winter months is a great competition and most knock out championship matches at club and county are decent and you get an odd clinker. And the attendances are great.
It's the mismatches at Provincial level and some unimportant group games that bring the level down and people don't go to.
And then a lot of the club championship games I watch on tv or live are real do or die stuff that mean so much to the players and communities.
Yes there are some bad games but there always will be.
And Jarlath wants to appeal to neutrals. I couldn't care less what neutrals think. When games that matter are on the crowds are there.
And then Jarlath also mentioned the ethos of the GAA and respect for officials. And I can agree with the sentiment of that though enforcement of a 50m penalty may bring a lot of heat on refs.
But what about the real ethos of the GAA, amateurism? Why would you want to put managers on professional contracts?
Surely the drive to make managers professional and change the game completely is too much for the grassroots and will be voted against.


Attendances are not great - they're atrocious over the last few years which I would say is directly related to the style of play.
You mightnt give a shite about neutrals, but the GAA better.
If your only concern is the hard-core, you're on the road to nowhere.
The game needs to be appealing to neutrals, kids, parents etc to keep future generations involved.
If you think they'll blindly stay involved out of some sort of loyalty, you're naive.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on October 20, 2024, 07:22:54 PM
Look at the size of crowds at Munster SHC group games.
Maybe they're being entertained.
That will have to stop!
Any neutral or non GAA member trying to get into a game must be ejected immediately.
And no more televised games...allcm sorts of undesirables might start watching tge games.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on October 20, 2024, 07:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 20, 2024, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 05:31:15 PMThat's true Sam. And the competitions. Everyone agrees that the National League in the winter months is a great competition and most knock out championship matches at club and county are decent and you get an odd clinker. And the attendances are great.
It's the mismatches at Provincial level and some unimportant group games that bring the level down and people don't go to.
And then a lot of the club championship games I watch on tv or live are real do or die stuff that mean so much to the players and communities.
Yes there are some bad games but there always will be.
And Jarlath wants to appeal to neutrals. I couldn't care less what neutrals think. When games that matter are on the crowds are there.
And then Jarlath also mentioned the ethos of the GAA and respect for officials. And I can agree with the sentiment of that though enforcement of a 50m penalty may bring a lot of heat on refs.
But what about the real ethos of the GAA, amateurism? Why would you want to put managers on professional contracts?
Surely the drive to make managers professional and change the game completely is too much for the grassroots and will be voted against.


Attendances are not great - they're atrocious over the last few years which I would say is directly related to the style of play.
You mightnt give a shite about neutrals, but the GAA better.
If your only concern is the hard-core, you're on the road to nowhere.
The game needs to be appealing to neutrals, kids, parents etc to keep future generations involved.
If you think they'll blindly stay involved out of some sort of loyalty, you're naive.

Have you any metrics to support this?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Walter Cronc on October 20, 2024, 08:08:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PMGreat win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.

It goes to show you if you are whiling to source big sponsors and invest it in developing players - it will reap dividends.

They've a massive pick do they not? Dun Laoghaire, Dalkey and Killiney?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shark on October 20, 2024, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 20, 2024, 08:08:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PMGreat win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.

It goes to show you if you are whiling to source big sponsors and invest it in developing players - it will reap dividends.

They've a massive pick do they not? Dun Laoghaire, Dalkey and Killiney?

Yeah a huge pick - and would extend further south than Killiney. And obviously plenty of cash as pointed out above. But they are using it on their own (unlike many Dublin clubs have historically done) , and have to spend a ton of money using other clubs facilities as they have very little of their own , and no green grass to develop some.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 20, 2024, 08:08:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PMGreat win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.

It goes to show you if you are whiling to source big sponsors and invest it in developing players - it will reap dividends.

They've a massive pick do they not? Dun Laoghaire, Dalkey and Killiney?

They have massive money behind them. As do most clubs in Dublin. Which makes it a level playing field.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 08:34:10 PM
Tubberman what's your involvement in GAA?

The attendances are rubbish? Compared to when?

Crowds at National League games are massive, as they are at a lot of the championship matches. Higher than they ever have been.

And the club championship games are all well attended.

Kids involvement has never been higher, boys and girls. Parent involvement too (sometimes too much lol).

Not everyone really cares that every game is not brilliant. They care about being part of a community, a team, a unique association that binds Irish people together and keeps us all social in this crazy world.

I don't think there are rules that could make every game brilliant but I do agree that one or 2 changes could help.

If neutrals think they can get better entertainment at sports in Ireland or elsewhere then away you go. Name those sports?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on October 20, 2024, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 08:34:10 PMTubberman what's your involvement in GAA?

The attendances are rubbish? Compared to when?

Crowds at National League games are massive, as they are at a lot of the championship matches. Higher than they ever have been.

And the club championship games are all well attended.

Kids involvement has never been higher, boys and girls. Parent involvement too (sometimes too much lol).

Not everyone really cares that every game is not brilliant. They care about being part of a community, a team, a unique association that binds Irish people together and keeps us all social in this crazy world.

I don't think there are rules that could make every game brilliant but I do agree that one or 2 changes could help.

If neutrals think they can get better entertainment at sports in Ireland or elsewhere then away you go. Name those sports?

What's your involvement in the GAA? is there a level someone needs to be at before their opinion is worth hearing? If so, what is that level?

Re attendances, the most recent full house in croke park was a URC game between Leinster and Munster.
I'd say the only other games that sold out were the all ireland finals, and no other games came anywhere close.
Apart from the Ulster championship the provincial attendances are ad low as living memory, and Ulster is not as important as Ulster people might like to think.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on October 20, 2024, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 20, 2024, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 08:34:10 PMTubberman what's your involvement in GAA?

The attendances are rubbish? Compared to when?

Crowds at National League games are massive, as they are at a lot of the championship matches. Higher than they ever have been.

And the club championship games are all well attended.

Kids involvement has never been higher, boys and girls. Parent involvement too (sometimes too much lol).

Not everyone really cares that every game is not brilliant. They care about being part of a community, a team, a unique association that binds Irish people together and keeps us all social in this crazy world.

I don't think there are rules that could make every game brilliant but I do agree that one or 2 changes could help.

If neutrals think they can get better entertainment at sports in Ireland or elsewhere then away you go. Name those sports?

What's your involvement in the GAA? is there a level someone needs to be at before their opinion is worth hearing? If so, what is that level?

Re attendances, the most recent full house in croke park was a URC game between Leinster and Munster.
I'd say the only other games that sold out were the all ireland finals, and no other games came anywhere close.
Apart from the Ulster championship the provincial attendances are ad low as living memory, and Ulster is not as important as Ulster people might like to think.

No metrics so, just opinion.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 09:48:41 PM
So you are quoting a rugby match between 2 of the top 4 side in ireland and the all Ireland series. OK then.

How many people go to any other rugby, soccer, basketball etc matches? Are they being wildly entertained.

And in Ulster we are delighted to be part of the GAA.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 10:01:25 PM
Most people aren't going to walk away from their clubs and counties, part of us for a lifetime. But anyone who thinks Gaelic football has been worth watching in recent years is in serious denial and doesn't really care about the game. Of course there have been good games but by and large has been an endurance test we go hoping will improve. Hopefully some of these rules will do that.
Clare player doing keepy-uppys in a championship game ffs!, Cargin-St Brigids 1-0 after 26 mins, two kids marking one lad everyone else in the other half, that Magherafelt game horrendous ... and that's just the talked-about games in recent weeks..
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on October 20, 2024, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.

Naas in Newbridge without Con. Can't see Cuala making much of impact in Leinster anyway as lack strength in dept. Should be between Naas and Portarlington for Leinster this year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on October 20, 2024, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 09:48:41 PMSo you are quoting a rugby match between 2 of the top 4 side in ireland and the all Ireland series. OK then.

How many people go to any other rugby, soccer, basketball etc matches? Are they being wildly entertained.

And in Ulster we are delighted to be part of the GAA.

What is your point? That as long as we're getting more than League of Ireland, everything is fine?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on October 20, 2024, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on October 20, 2024, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.

Naas in Newbridge without Con. Can't see Cuala making much of impact in Leinster anyway as lack strength in dept. Should be between Naas and Portarlington for Leinster this year.

Con will be suspended for the first round of the Dublin championship in 2025 surely?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on October 20, 2024, 10:49:56 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 20, 2024, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on October 20, 2024, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sheedy on October 20, 2024, 04:19:07 PMBrilliant win for Cuala, nothing wrong with a game like that especially the last quater

The BIG money behind Cuala paying dividends. They should survive the Leinster first round with Con out.

Naas in Newbridge without Con. Can't see Cuala making much of impact in Leinster anyway as lack strength in dept. Should be between Naas and Portarlington for Leinster this year.

Con will be suspended for the first round of the Dublin championship in 2025 surely?

No I believe rules have changed, he will miss Leinster game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: The Trap on October 20, 2024, 10:58:01 PM
There are thousands of games every year.

I was once told that you will play in hundreds of games in your life. You will lose some by a lot and win some by a lot and some will be close. Those are the ones that matter!

This year I have been at lots of games. Some have been very good and some have been very poor.

If the new rules come in I will go to lots of games and some will be very good and some will be very poor.

That's just sport I guess. I don't know why people think the GAA is very different.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on October 21, 2024, 08:52:21 AM
I dont fully understand the 'appeal to neutrals' why? are people who suddenly think our high scoring game with the new rules is class based in England going to start flooding over to fill Pairc Ui Chaoimh for a munster final? or are we gonna do NFL and try fill Spurs ground once a year? cant see it. We have an association that if you go to any club on a sat or sunday morning it is buzzing with kids playing, they are the future. you go to club games and there are healthy crowds for the level, people who have an attachment, live and breathe for their club.

id argue that the attendance drop is more to do with the fact of more games with less meaning and higher pricing. its not down to the product, when there are so many games with little riding on them supporters will always pick and choose.

if the GAA were interested in more people at games rather than revenue they would drop the prices and do away with meaningless games.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thewobbler on October 21, 2024, 09:07:30 AM
Don't see the need to appeal to neutrals myself.

It bothers me none if there's a big crowd or a small crowd at a game.

But as mentioned before, what does bother me is that I've paid into 2 games in 5 years not involving Ballyholland. For the simple reason that I refuse to travel and then pay money to be bored out of my brains.

I am of course a sample of one here. Except I'm not.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on October 21, 2024, 09:53:49 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2024, 09:07:30 AMDon't see the need to appeal to neutrals myself.

It bothers me none if there's a big crowd or a small crowd at a game.

But as mentioned before, what does bother me is that I've paid into 2 games in 5 years not involving Ballyholland. For the simple reason that I refuse to travel and then pay money to be bored out of my brains.

I am of course a sample of one here. Except I'm not.

Who will have sons, daughter's,  neices and nephews..you wouldn't be in your club committee by any chance?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Silver hill on October 21, 2024, 12:18:35 PM
For any game to survive it needs to be attractive to the neutral as a spectacle. Gaelic football has trundled along for the past 10 years as people are invested due to family, parish and county loyalty. That has been waning year on year and I think it's right that the rules are adapted to try to make it more entertaining. I get it they coaches are in the business of winning and will interpret the rules as they see fit to gain maximum benefit for their team, but if the product on show is generally dross, people will vote with their feet or simple switch over to something else.
I'm old enough to remember the pass back to the keeper in soccer and how it was exploited. look how that simple rule change revolutionised that game. Same with shot clock in basketball. Not all of the proposed changes will work, but that is the purpose of sandbox games. To test. And I think the committee have an opportunity next November to tweak anything that they see fit after a full national league and championship campaign. I watch a lot of football because I grew up with it and played the game. It's in my DNA but it definitely needs the current review in my opinion.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thewobbler on October 21, 2024, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 21, 2024, 09:53:49 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2024, 09:07:30 AMDon't see the need to appeal to neutrals myself.

It bothers me none if there's a big crowd or a small crowd at a game.

But as mentioned before, what does bother me is that I've paid into 2 games in 5 years not involving Ballyholland. For the simple reason that I refuse to travel and then pay money to be bored out of my brains.

I am of course a sample of one here. Except I'm not.

Who will have sons, daughter's,  neices and nephews..you wouldn't be in your club committee by any chance?

I think you're picking me up a little wrongly here.

My underlying point is that if the likes of me - who has been wrapped up in the sport for 40 years - would no longer cross the road to watch an adult football match, then why are we even discussing attracting neutrals?

Not sure where you're going with your committee comment. Though I could harbour a guess.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: andoireabu on October 21, 2024, 06:33:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 20, 2024, 08:08:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 20, 2024, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2024, 04:46:06 PMGreat win for Cuala against the All-Ireland champions of a few years ago. Before today Cuala only played in one Dublin final way back in 1988.

It goes to show you if you are whiling to source big sponsors and invest it in developing players - it will reap dividends.

They've a massive pick do they not? Dun Laoghaire, Dalkey and Killiney?

They have massive money behind them. As do most clubs in Dublin. Which makes it a level playing field.

You've mentioned money a few times now about Cuala, what sort of money are you talking?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2024, 12:43:06 PM
Would Cuala have more $$$ than Crokes?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: LC on October 23, 2024, 01:46:45 PM
Would it be fair to say Cuala are the Dublin version of St. Brigid's with Kilmacud being the Carryduff?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PM
Qualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on October 23, 2024, 02:22:31 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PMQualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?
Well certain a Dublin club was able to pay a certain high profile county man to play for them (allegedly) wouldn't say the bulk of senior clubs could do that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ElJeffe on October 23, 2024, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PMQualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?

I think he means stuff like this ...

https://hoganstand.com/County/National/Article/Index/334035
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2024, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: ElJeffe on October 23, 2024, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PMQualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?

I think he means stuff like this ...

https://hoganstand.com/County/National/Article/Index/334035
How much is it to charter a train? I didn't think that it would be a massive expense tbh, especially if you're guaranteed to fill it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on October 23, 2024, 06:32:53 PM
That just makes sense tho, the infrastructure is there & unlike the basket case North, its cheap & works. Big fan of the DART!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on October 23, 2024, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 23, 2024, 05:54:36 PMHow much is it to charter a train? I didn't think that it would be a massive expense tbh, especially if you're guaranteed to fill it.

There have been examples of people chartering a DART for weddings, although I think one of the people involved worked for Irish Rail.

There should have been a chartered train or a special for the likes of Armagh's game in Kerry in 2023.


Quote from: bennydorano on October 23, 2024, 06:32:53 PMThat just makes sense tho, the infrastructure is there & unlike the basket case North,

Now, now, there is a massive station to receive the train in Belfast anyway.
The GAA should have built their stadium on that site and kept the old station. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on October 24, 2024, 08:47:02 AM
Barcelona Gaels eyeing more history in Kilkenny (https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1023/1477115-barcelona-gaels-eyeing-more-history-in-kilkenny/)

If there's a market open for our game against Conahy shamrocks, we're definitely worth a punt.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2024, 09:06:13 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 24, 2024, 08:47:02 AMBarcelona Gaels eyeing more history in Kilkenny (https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1023/1477115-barcelona-gaels-eyeing-more-history-in-kilkenny/)

If there's a market open for our game against Conahy shamrocks, we're definitely worth a punt.

Are the playing the Kilkenny senior club champions or is this third tier football in Kilkenny?

If they are playing Kilkenny seniors then I say (without seeing Barc gaels) they won't be as bad as it sounds
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on October 24, 2024, 09:09:43 AM
Kilkenny senior champs (Dicksboro) play Leinster Inter.

Kilkenny inter champs (Conahy Shamrocks) play Leinster Junior, against us.

We're obviously taking nothing for granted. No European team has ever won a match in the Leinster Junior, and the have been some pretty poor teams in it over the years.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: johnnycool on October 24, 2024, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 24, 2024, 08:47:02 AMBarcelona Gaels eyeing more history in Kilkenny (https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1023/1477115-barcelona-gaels-eyeing-more-history-in-kilkenny/)

If there's a market open for our game against Conahy shamrocks, we're definitely worth a punt.

Is Eoin McCall a Down man perchance?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on October 24, 2024, 11:42:04 AM
From the Antrim road but went to Aquinas so would have Bredagh and St. Enda's connections. Mid-late 20s. Club wise himself though he was either Pearses or Mitchell's so probably not whoever you might be thinking of I'd imagine?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on November 04, 2024, 12:56:22 PM
Antrim - Cargin
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Gowna
Down - Kilcoo
Derry - Glen
Donegal - Glenties
Fermanagh - Enniskillen Gaels
Tyrone - Errigal Ciaran
Monaghan - Scotstown

Galway - Corofin
Mayo - Castlebar Mitchell's
Leitrim - St Mary's Carrick
Sligo - Tourlestrane
Roscommon - St Brigid's

Kerry - Dingle and East Kerry
Cork - St Finbarrs
Clare - Eir Og Ennis
Waterford - The Nire
Tipp - Clonmel
Limerick - Newcastle West

Dublin - Kilmacud
Kildare - Naas
Meath - Ratoath
Offaly - Tullamore
Westmeath - St Lomans
Longford - Clonguish
Carlow - Eir Og
Wicklow -Rathnew
Wexford - Shelmaliers
Louth - Ardee
Laois - Portarlington


10/32 not ideal on my part
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: onefineday on November 09, 2024, 12:56:20 AM
Quote from: ElJeffe on October 23, 2024, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PMQualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?

I think he means stuff like this ...

https://hoganstand.com/County/National/Article/Index/334035

They're taking another train to newbridge tomorrow evening too!!

Fwiw it might be their last trip of the year, so they may as well make the most of it!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2024, 02:07:20 PM
Barcelona Gaels are giving  Kilcavan their fill of it
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 09, 2024, 03:24:37 PM
Barcelona Gaels 0-11 Kilcavan 1-9 it finished. Kilcavan in the previous round knocked out the Dublin champions.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2024, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 09, 2024, 03:24:37 PMBarcelona Gaels 0-11 Kilcavan 1-9 it finished. Kilcavan in the previous round knocked out the Dublin champions.

Thought they were very unlucky with the winning free being fairly soft or not at all
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on November 09, 2024, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: onefineday on November 09, 2024, 12:56:20 AM
Quote from: ElJeffe on October 23, 2024, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 23, 2024, 02:05:58 PMQualify what massive money means at club level
Players getting the best of physio, gear, feeding, odd weekend away.. a well paid mgr...

would most clubs at a certain level not have that?

I think he means stuff like this ...

https://hoganstand.com/County/National/Article/Index/334035

They're taking another train to newbridge tomorrow evening too!!

Fwiw it might be their last trip of the year, so they may as well make the most of it!


Naas should be winning this. They are 7/4.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PM
Naas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 12, 2024, 05:01:36 PM
Latest odds to win the senior All-Ireland (Paddy Power): 3/1 Cuala; 7/2 Dr Crokes; 6/1 Pádraig Pearses, Kilcoo; 9/1 Scotstown; 10/1 Errigal Ciarán; 14/1 Ballina; 16/1 Clann Éireann; 20/1 St Mary's, St Loman's; 33/1 Éire Óg, Tullamore; 80/1 Mohill, Rathgormack, Loughmore-Castleiney, Coolera-Strandhill; 250/1 Erne Gaels, Castletown.

All-Ireland semi finals will be Leinster winner v Connacht winner and Ulster v Munster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: smort on November 12, 2024, 05:49:38 PM
Clann Éireann the value bet
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: smort on November 12, 2024, 05:49:38 PMClann Éireann the value bet
Maybe worth sticking a few quid on at that price but it's fairly unlikely.

If they were to win Ulster I'd say they're every chance. As it stands any of the 4 teams in Ulster could win the province, but the Kilcoo/Scotstown winners have to be firm favourites given the experience.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started.  Newbridge were in similar boat this year, 35 years without a senior championship and by all accounts went hard on the beer.  First time winners rarely make the grade in Ulster as they have reached the holy grail to an extent by winning their own championship. 

Newbridge preparation was certainly hampered by the celebrations there wouldn't been 3/4 days drinking done ahead of the Magherafelt or Glen games anyway. Did they run out of steam in last 10 minutes? The game was a free hit for Newbridge in a way, I would have thought the decision making would have been more likely to be compromised in Derry county final as Glen were such overwhelming favourites? If your club hasn't won in 35 years the nerves of getting over the line/monkey off your back would be greater than a first round Ulster club game when the outcome is irrelevant to a degree as you have had a great season regardless of result.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on November 13, 2024, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started. 


CE were more like 3/1 to win Armagh than 33/1 and many Armagh posters identified them as a value bet.
But there is something in the view that CE wanted to go beyond a first round defeat in Ulster and they would not have been afraid of Newbridge. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on November 13, 2024, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 13, 2024, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started. 


CE were more like 3/1 to win Armagh than 33/1 and many Armagh posters identified them as a value bet.
But there is something in the view that CE wanted to go beyond a first round defeat in Ulster and they would not have been afraid of Newbridge. 
In 2021 they were 33/1.  3/1 or 7/2 in 2024. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on November 13, 2024, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 12:34:20 PMIn 2021 they were 33/1.  3/1 or 7/2 in 2024. 

My mistake, I'm sorry that I didn't invest then, from their run of excellent minor teams about 10 years ago they were always likely to win at some stage.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on November 13, 2024, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 13, 2024, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started. 


CE were more like 3/1 to win Armagh than 33/1 and many Armagh posters identified them as a value bet.
But there is something in the view that CE wanted to go beyond a first round defeat in Ulster and they would not have been afraid of Newbridge. 
in 2021? Wouldn't have been 3/1 back then I don't think
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on November 13, 2024, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started.  Newbridge were in similar boat this year, 35 years without a senior championship and by all accounts went hard on the beer.  First time winners rarely make the grade in Ulster as they have reached the holy grail to an extent by winning their own championship. 

Newbridge preparation was certainly hampered by the celebrations there wouldn't been 3/4 days drinking done ahead of the Magherafelt or Glen games anyway. Did they run out of steam in last 10 minutes? The game was a free hit for Newbridge in a way, I would have thought the decision making would have been more likely to be compromised in Derry county final as Glen were such overwhelming favourites? If your club hasn't won in 35 years the nerves of getting over the line/monkey off your back would be greater than a first round Ulster club game when the outcome is irrelevant to a degree as you have had a great season regardless of result.



CE done a fair amount of celebrating this year also
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on November 13, 2024, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 13, 2024, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started.  Newbridge were in similar boat this year, 35 years without a senior championship and by all accounts went hard on the beer.  First time winners rarely make the grade in Ulster as they have reached the holy grail to an extent by winning their own championship. 

Newbridge preparation was certainly hampered by the celebrations there wouldn't been 3/4 days drinking done ahead of the Magherafelt or Glen games anyway. Did they run out of steam in last 10 minutes? The game was a free hit for Newbridge in a way, I would have thought the decision making would have been more likely to be compromised in Derry county final as Glen were such overwhelming favourites? If your club hasn't won in 35 years the nerves of getting over the line/monkey off your back would be greater than a first round Ulster club game when the outcome is irrelevant to a degree as you have had a great season regardless of result.



CE done a fair amount of celebrating this year also
Without a doubt, especially with who they beat!

How much celebrating would Kilcoo/Scotstown do now after the county final given they've won so many?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ClubScene13 on November 13, 2024, 09:30:01 PM
Very little out of Kilcoo from what I'm told, but I'm not from Down I wouldn't know
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on November 14, 2024, 02:12:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 13, 2024, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 13, 2024, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: statto on November 13, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2024, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on November 09, 2024, 08:57:14 PMNaas never in control there and a general lack of smarts and poor decisions cost them. Too many lumped kickouts and shuffling backwards for example.

I said it before.

In a lot of these tight club championship games, it don't come down to xperience or bttle or anything like that.

It's decision making.

Naas made very poor decisions in the last 10 mins.  So did St. Eunan's and so did Newbridge.

The games were tight certainly but Cuala,EC and Clann Éireann made the better decisions with the ball in the last 10 mins.
Which improves with experience.

Do you think so?
Ah without a doubt. And like I always say, at the highest level at times it comes down to a bit of luck and the rub of the green when teams are evenly matched.

Naas, at Leinster Club level, are/should be more experienced that Cuala.

St. Eunan's, at Ulster Club level, are more experienced that EC.

CÉ and Newbridge a 50/50 game in terms of experience.

Luck has got nothing to do with it unfortunately. Good decisions makers in last 10 mins got them teams over the line.

Cargin are as experienced s anybody in the Ulster club run with KOB, MMC and TMC etc. but on Sunday, that experience counted for nothing.  I don't believe the mantra that you need to 'lose win to win one' either.   

Not all the times in general but 90%, it's the players/team that make good decisions wins the game in tight games.
CE had two games at Ulster senior in 2021 so the majority of that team would have had that experience in Ulster. 

There would not have been the level of celebrations in CE this year as they hadn't won a senior in 60 plus years. CE would have been happy with their lot in 2021 too as they were something like 33/1 shots with bookies to win Armagh before the competition started.  Newbridge were in similar boat this year, 35 years without a senior championship and by all accounts went hard on the beer.  First time winners rarely make the grade in Ulster as they have reached the holy grail to an extent by winning their own championship. 

Newbridge preparation was certainly hampered by the celebrations there wouldn't been 3/4 days drinking done ahead of the Magherafelt or Glen games anyway. Did they run out of steam in last 10 minutes? The game was a free hit for Newbridge in a way, I would have thought the decision making would have been more likely to be compromised in Derry county final as Glen were such overwhelming favourites? If your club hasn't won in 35 years the nerves of getting over the line/monkey off your back would be greater than a first round Ulster club game when the outcome is irrelevant to a degree as you have had a great season regardless of result.



CE done a fair amount of celebrating this year also
Without a doubt, especially with who they beat!

How much celebrating would Kilcoo/Scotstown do now after the county final given they've won so many?

One of the days they were in the pub with the CnG lads
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on November 14, 2024, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on November 13, 2024, 09:30:01 PMVery little out of Kilcoo from what I'm told, but I'm not from Down I wouldn't know
I've heard likewise. They still fancy themselves for provincial/AI honours so can't imagine them getting too worked up over yet another Down title
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on November 14, 2024, 04:08:38 PM
How does the pub scene work in Lurgan; has each of the 4 clubs their own pubs or do they congregate together?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on November 14, 2024, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 14, 2024, 04:08:38 PMHow does the pub scene work in Lurgan; has each of the 4 clubs their own pubs or do they congregate together?
All the clubs have their own social club.  The INF opens the earliest so I would say that is why both teams ended up there. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on November 14, 2024, 05:48:52 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 14, 2024, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on November 13, 2024, 09:30:01 PMVery little out of Kilcoo from what I'm told, but I'm not from Down I wouldn't know
I've heard likewise. They still fancy themselves for provincial/AI honours so can't imagine them getting too worked up over yet another Down title

Plus, they've all them  sheep to attend to
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ash Smoker on November 17, 2024, 07:55:16 PM
A fella I know has backed St Lomans to win it outright.
Is he off his head, or have they a chance?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 17, 2024, 08:11:29 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on November 17, 2024, 07:55:16 PMA fella I know has backed St Lomans to win it outright.
Is he off his head, or have they a chance?

Backed them today after their comfortable win or already had them backed?

St Lomans are currently 8th in the betting to win the All Ireland at 20/1.  Only once in the history has a Westmeath club won Leinster,  Garrycastle, 2011 and they reached the All Ireland final losing after a replay to Crossmaglen Rangers.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ash Smoker on November 17, 2024, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 17, 2024, 08:11:29 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on November 17, 2024, 07:55:16 PMA fella I know has backed St Lomans to win it outright.
Is he off his head, or have they a chance?

Backed them today after their comfortable win or already had them backed?

St Lomans are currently 8th in the betting to win the All Ireland at 20/1.  Only once in the history has a Westmeath club won Leinster,  Garrycastle, 2011 and they reached the All Ireland final losing after a replay to Crossmaglen Rangers.
He told me a couple of weeks ago. I thought nothing of it till I saw the score today.
I was wondering was there method to his madness.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: WT4E on November 17, 2024, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: statto on November 14, 2024, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 14, 2024, 04:08:38 PMHow does the pub scene work in Lurgan; has each of the 4 clubs their own pubs or do they congregate together?
All the clubs have their own social club.  The INF opens the earliest so I would say that is why both teams ended up there. 

What club owns the:
Courthouse
Beehive
The Vintage
The Cellar
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on November 18, 2024, 08:37:12 AM
Quote from: WT4E on November 17, 2024, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: statto on November 14, 2024, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 14, 2024, 04:08:38 PMHow does the pub scene work in Lurgan; has each of the 4 clubs their own pubs or do they congregate together?
All the clubs have their own social club.  The INF opens the earliest so I would say that is why both teams ended up there. 

What club owns the:
Courthouse
Beehive
The Vintage
The Cellar
Courthouse and Beehive are owned by same family(as is the Ashburn Hotel and Woodville) who wouldn't really be connected to a GAA club as far as I know.  The Vintage is owned by a Clann Eireann man but is in the town centre away from that area.  The Cellar again no real affiliation with any teams. 

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on November 18, 2024, 10:53:01 AM
Quote from: statto on November 18, 2024, 08:37:12 AM
Quote from: WT4E on November 17, 2024, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: statto on November 14, 2024, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 14, 2024, 04:08:38 PMHow does the pub scene work in Lurgan; has each of the 4 clubs their own pubs or do they congregate together?
All the clubs have their own social club.  The INF opens the earliest so I would say that is why both teams ended up there. 

What club owns the:
Courthouse
Beehive
The Vintage
The Cellar
Courthouse and Beehive are owned by same family(as is the Ashburn Hotel and Woodville) who wouldn't really be connected to a GAA club as far as I know.  The Vintage is owned by a Clann Eireann man but is in the town centre away from that area.  The Cellar again no real affiliation with any teams. 



one of the McConaghys played for CE. Not sure how involved he is in the family business though. The woodville, y its location alone, would get a lot of CE folk in it but as has been said isnt owned by a club
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on November 18, 2024, 11:23:30 AM
You could argue that Reid's & JPs/Master McGrath are both Clans bars and Batcave a Peter's bar.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on November 18, 2024, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 18, 2024, 11:23:30 AMYou could argue that Reid's & JPs/Master McGrath are both Clans bars and Batcave a Peter's bar.

Used to work in Reids, or Morgans as it was then, and was always full of clans ones. Well, former players anyway
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on November 23, 2024, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on November 17, 2024, 07:55:16 PMA fella I know has backed St Lomans to win it outright.
Is he off his head, or have they a chance?

It turns out yes he is off his head.

A group of guys with very strong accents just beat them today.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ElJeffe on November 23, 2024, 05:01:27 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on November 23, 2024, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on November 17, 2024, 07:55:16 PMA fella I know has backed St Lomans to win it outright.
Is he off his head, or have they a chance?

It turns out yes he is off his head.

A group of guys with very strong accents just beat them today.


Ardddddeeeeeee haiiiii
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on November 23, 2024, 07:37:58 PM
Are Cuala only allowed to score goals? Playing like they want to kill this game off in ten minutes. RTE 2. Cuala v Tullamore
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 23, 2024, 07:41:30 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 23, 2024, 07:37:58 PMAre Cuala only allowed to score goals? Playing like they want to kill this game off in ten minutes. RTE 2. Cuala v Tullamore
Tullamore all over the place in defence lucky just 1 goal scored from 4 goal chances. Culua 1-2 to 0-3 in front 23 minutes played.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2024, 07:47:15 PM
Not a great match.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on November 23, 2024, 08:10:27 PM
Tullamore have huge chance of winning this. Their number 10 is decent
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 23, 2024, 08:19:12 PM
Another goal chance for Cuala not taken they lead 1-7 to 0-7 with 47 minutes played.

Result Cuala 1-10 Tullamore 0-10
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on November 23, 2024, 08:38:36 PM
I'm guessing Cuala can play much better than that. Not impressive. Do some amount of fouling but a win's a win I suppose..
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on November 23, 2024, 08:40:25 PM
Don't think they'd have scored but what on earth was that last free for in the square?!

Tullamore did well to equalise, then started going out of their way to try and turn the ball over. Once they were back down by 5 they seemed to have almost no urgency about it until it was too late.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 23, 2024, 08:43:43 PM
2024 has been a year of Ulster teams winning All-Ireland titles. That trend could well continue into January 2025 and beyond.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on November 23, 2024, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 23, 2024, 08:43:43 PM2024 has been a year of Ulster teams winning All-Ireland titles. That trend could well continue into January 2025 and beyond.

Thanks for the obvious, Captain!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on November 24, 2024, 09:53:30 PM
Out of the 7 remaining intermediate club sides. 3 of them have won the Senior Club All Ireland.

Ballinderry 2002
Crossmolina 2001
Austin Stacks 1977

Is this a first?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 24, 2024, 09:59:00 PM
Aye houl on I'll go look up
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on November 24, 2024, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 24, 2024, 09:59:00 PMAye houl on I'll go look up

Good man... Any luck? 🤣
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 24, 2024, 10:44:37 PM
All Ireland Senior Semi final line up

Errigal Ciaran (Tyrone) or  Kilcoo (Down)  v  Dr Crokes (Kerry) or Loughmore (Tipp)

Cuala (Dublin) or  Ardee St Mary's (Louth) v Padraig Pearses (Roscommon) or Coolera/Strandhill (Sligo)

To win the All Ireland

Kilcoo 5/2
Cuala 11/4
Dr Crokes 3/1
Padraig Pearses 5/1
Errigal Ciaran 9/1
St Mary's 16/1
Loughmore 33/1
Coolera Strandhill 50/1

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2024, 05:58:27 PM
Cuala are decent but St Marys are pretty dung at the moment
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2024, 06:12:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2024, 05:58:27 PMCuala are decent but St Marys are pretty dung at the moment

For the first 20 minutes Ardee St Mary's left themselves wide open defensively

Half time Cuala 1-7 Ardee St Mary's 0-3
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 30, 2024, 06:26:48 PM
This will be 10th Dublin team to win the Leinster title in the last 12 finals not much different than senior county level.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2024, 06:45:32 PM
Cuala down to 14 men for ten minutes with a debatable black. They lead 1-11 to 0-8 after 47 minutes.
Goal for Ardee. Poor goalkeeping. 1-8 to 1-11. 2nd goal now sides are level.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on November 30, 2024, 06:47:56 PM
Is this game on TV? I can't find it
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2024, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 30, 2024, 06:47:56 PMIs this game on TV? I can't find it
RTÉ player it's live on if you can get it in your area.

1-13 to 2-10 with four minutes of normal time left.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on November 30, 2024, 06:55:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 30, 2024, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 30, 2024, 06:47:56 PMIs this game on TV? I can't find it
RTÉ player it's live on if you can get it in your area.

1-13 to 2-10 with four minutes of normal time left.

Have it on now, thanks. Level!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2024, 06:57:30 PM
Con O'Callaghan somehow missed that free. Pressure gets to the best of players?

Into added time (3 minutes) still level.

Cuala  score that free. One in front with a minute to go.

FT Cuala 1-14 Ardee St Mary's 2-10
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on November 30, 2024, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 30, 2024, 06:45:32 PMCuala down to 14 men for ten minutes with a debatable black. They lead 1-11 to 0-8 after 47 minutes.
Goal for Ardee. Poor goalkeeping. 1-8 to 1-11. 2nd goal now sides are level.

That black was followed by about 4 from Ardee that were way more deserving of one.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2024, 07:12:40 PM
I'd have never given that as a black tbf.

But it changed the game
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 30, 2024, 08:03:01 PM
How much would RTE have talked up that Leinster final if it was played with the new rules tonight?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on November 30, 2024, 09:08:03 PM
KK some bucks btw with all the youth on show. Hopefully they'll be back.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: giveherlong on December 01, 2024, 08:11:37 AM
What's is the draw for all Ireland series? Semi finals before Christmas?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 01, 2024, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on December 01, 2024, 08:11:37 AMWhat's is the draw for all Ireland series? Semi finals before Christmas?

Hurling before Christmas.


Football senior, Intermediate and Junior the first weekend of January. Connacht V Leinster. Ulster v Munster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2024, 11:37:50 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on December 01, 2024, 08:11:37 AMWhat's is the draw for all Ireland series? Semi finals before Christmas?
Fianna are playing Loughrea in 2 weeks
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 01, 2024, 01:37:46 PM
Decent watch this in Sligo, some good scores, nearly all from play.

Love watching games like cause as an outsider you don't give a flying who wins.

Well done to coolera stranding, underdogs apparently.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: giveherlong on December 01, 2024, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 01, 2024, 01:37:46 PMDecent watch this in Sligo, some good scores, nearly all from play.

Love watching games like cause as an outsider you don't give a flying who wins.

Well done to coolera stranding, underdogs apparently.

Was a good watch surely. Very enjoyable
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DownFanatic on December 02, 2024, 09:20:47 AM
Great game yesterday between Coolera and Pearses, especially from halftime onwards. Serious spirit in that Coolera side and tactically they were immense. Especially with the use of their keeper and the role played by their MOTM number 15. Pearses played too deep defensively for too long and failed to get the balance right. The tackling and intensity from both teams was top notch and despite a ropey surface, the game was highly enjoyable.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 02:39:49 PM
The state of this:
Munster Intermediate Club Football Championship Final
Full Time
Austin Stacks 7-8(29)
Aherlow  0-2(2)

GAA needs to address what Kerry (and Cavan) are putting forward as Intermediate and Junior teams.
Top 8 in Kerry are senior apparently... a joke.
County like Tyrone is top 16... (not sure about other counties).
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shark on December 07, 2024, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 02:39:49 PMThe state of this:
Munster Intermediate Club Football Championship Final
Full Time
Austin Stacks 7-8(29)
Aherlow  0-2(2)

GAA needs to address what Kerry (and Cavan) are putting forward as Intermediate and Junior teams.
Top 8 in Kerry are senior apparently... a joke.
County like Tyrone is top 16... (not sure about other counties).


Dublin is the winner of 3rd tier. 33rd best team.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 02:39:49 PMThe state of this:
Munster Intermediate Club Football Championship Final
Full Time
Austin Stacks 7-8(29)
Aherlow  0-2(2)

GAA needs to address what Kerry (and Cavan) are putting forward as Intermediate and Junior teams.
Top 8 in Kerry are senior apparently... a joke.
County like Tyrone is top 16... (not sure about other counties).
The Kerry system is a joke. Most counties are top 16 in senior. Dublin and Cork maybe have even more i think. At least the Cavan model is justified in that you stay junior intil you win it etc
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
The Leinster junior champions are the Offaly intermediate champions.

My understanding is that the logic is that with Senior A and Senior B, intermediate is their 3rd tier therefore it's ok for them to compete at junior in the province. They were 8 points up after 20 mins against the Meath champions who are far below the third tier. Craobh Chiarain were the Dublin champions and are like Division 6/7.

Quote from: shark on December 07, 2024, 02:58:57 PMDublin is the winner of 3rd tier. 33rd best team.

4th tier, excluding reserve teams from the bigger clubs. Senior 1, Senior 2 and Intermediate all have 16 teams, so at best they're the 49th best team in the county.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: twohands!!! on December 07, 2024, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 02:39:49 PMThe state of this:
Munster Intermediate Club Football Championship Final
Full Time
Austin Stacks 7-8(29)
Aherlow  0-2(2)

GAA needs to address what Kerry (and Cavan) are putting forward as Intermediate and Junior teams.
Top 8 in Kerry are senior apparently... a joke.
County like Tyrone is top 16... (not sure about other counties).

It's not just a Kerry issue - there are two main reasons for this - Cork call their 1st and 2nd tier football competitions senior and both their 3rd and 4th tier competitions intermediate. The second main reason is the importance and the standard of the intermediate and junior football competitions in Tipperary, Limerick, Clare and Waterford. For pretty much all the teams that play intermediate and junior football in these counties, football is in a clear second place to hurling. For the clubs playing intermediate and junior in these counties football is close enough to being an after-thought. Any club were there is a chance of football being higher priority than hurling is playing senior championship. By comparison the intermediate and junior competitions in Kerry are of massive importance to the clubs playing in them.

Cork putting their 3rd tier team into the Munster Intermediate and their 5th tier into the Munster Junior has a serious affect on the competiveness of the Cork football teams in Munster in the intermediate and junior. If they put the winners of their 2nd into the intermediate and 3rd tier into the junior it would definitely affect Kerry's record in Munster. If Croke Park forced Cork to do this, it would have an immediate significant effect on the competiveness of Munster.
As regards what could be done for the poor quality of the other 4 counties intermediate and junior championship, the counties should really look at reducing the number of teams in their senior tiers some bit. However they are always going to be fighting an uphill battle given the importance placed on hurling over football in these counties.
Tipperary did cut down the number of senior teams last year from 15 to 13 but the clubs in these counties seem more interested in being able to call themeselves senior or intemediate than have a realistic chance in the Munster Intermediate and Junior competitions.

Also Kerry are increasing the number of senior sides in their county championship to 10 from next year. 

Unless Cork are forced to change the tiers they put forward for Munster, the competiveness of the Kerry teams in Munster isn't likely to change much.

Number of clubs in each competition 2024

                      Senior        Intermediate    Junior
Tipperary                    13          11            7
Limerick                      12          12            12
Waterford                    9            7            9
Clare                          12          12            12
Cork                            24          24            43
Kerry                          8            16            16

Strenght of team playing in the Munster Championship



                  Senior        Intermediate    Junior
Tipp                  1                14                25
Limerick            1                  13                25
Waterford          1              10                17
Clare                    1              13                  25
Cork                    1              25                  49
Kerry                  1                9                  25
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 03:46:17 PM
Cork have it right. Premier Senior, Senior A, Premier Intermediate, Intermediate A etc. albeit they have to accommodate the sheer number of clubs. The "A" champions don't go into the province. I don't think anyone will be looking to "force" them to do anything of the sort.

I know a few Newcestown boys who did the Senior A double in Cork last year, so playing Premier Senior hurling and football this year. If they'd been in the Munster intermediate, as the second tier champions, they'd have handed out plenty of hockeyings.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: twohands!!! on December 07, 2024, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 03:46:17 PMCork have it right. Premier Senior, Senior A, Premier Intermediate, Intermediate A etc. albeit they have to accommodate the sheer number of clubs. The "A" champions don't go into the province. I don't think anyone will be looking to "force" them to do anything of the sort.

I know a few Newcestown boys who did the Senior A double in Cork last year, so playing Premier Senior hurling and football this year. If they'd been in the Munster intermediate, as the second tier champions, they'd have handed out plenty of hockeyings.

Cork can keep their structure in the county - just put forward the winners of their 2nd and 3rd tiers into th Munster . It's not as if the Cork teams that they are putting forward for the intermediate and juniot are having all that much success in Munster.

Personally I think adding a 4th (and possibly 5th) tier to the provincial and All-Ireland series would help make things much more fair. it seems somewhat mad for instance that Waterford has 5 tiers of football levels - Senior/Intemediate/Junior A/Junior B/Junior C while the provincial and All-Irelands only have 3. When you see how big the intermediate and junior competitions are for clubs who do get to take part in them, I think having more tiers at provincial and All-Ireland level is a nobrainer.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 04:20:07 PM
Counties should split their clubs equally between senior, intermediate and junior. Within each grade, it can be further sub divided as required. Top tier of each grade are the provincial representatives. Manage exceptions on a case by case basis. E.g. Kilkenny club football teams. Their senior champions currently play Leinster intermediate, and have no business being there.

There are something like 70 clubs in Kerry. The fact the 9th best team currently play provincial intermediate is madness
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on December 07, 2024, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on December 07, 2024, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 03:46:17 PMCork have it right. Premier Senior, Senior A, Premier Intermediate, Intermediate A etc. albeit they have to accommodate the sheer number of clubs. The "A" champions don't go into the province. I don't think anyone will be looking to "force" them to do anything of the sort.

I know a few Newcestown boys who did the Senior A double in Cork last year, so playing Premier Senior hurling and football this year. If they'd been in the Munster intermediate, as the second tier champions, they'd have handed out plenty of hockeyings.

Cork can keep their structure in the county - just put forward the winners of their 2nd and 3rd tiers into th Munster . It's not as if the Cork teams that they are putting forward for the intermediate and juniot are having all that much success in Munster.

Personally I think adding a 4th (and possibly 5th) tier to the provincial and All-Ireland series would help make things much more fair. it seems somewhat mad for instance that Waterford has 5 tiers of football levels - Senior/Intemediate/Junior A/Junior B/Junior C while the provincial and All-Irelands only have 3. When you see how big the intermediate and junior competitions are for clubs who do get to take part in them, I think having more tiers at provincial and All-Ireland level is a nobrainer.

However, it is complicated by the strength of hurling or otherwise in a county. In a hurling county a club may have a football team but not take it too seriously, hence a lot of Junior Bs etc.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 07, 2024, 05:56:16 PM
Kerry long by, taking the piss,they got 64 club teams, 8 Senior? What's in Fermanagh senior championship with just over a 1/3rd the no.of the clubs compared to Kerry.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 06:12:07 PM
They can structure their championship whatever way they want. It's pretending that the first team outside the top 8 is "intermediate" in some way comparable to other counties. Same for junior.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 06:36:37 PM
Must be no appetite in Kerry to sort out this anomaly... Sean Kelly has even called it out.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41047505.html
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 07, 2024, 07:30:39 PM
There we go. Cork's Kilmurry win Munster junior beating Furies of Kerry.

Genuine question, would those teams win senior titles in any other counties? I reckon they'd reach the latter stages of a few counties.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:34:25 PM
I think there's some dodginess with Kilmurry too in fairness. They were in last year's Munster junior final and won Cork at a bit of a canter ;D

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 07, 2024, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:34:25 PMI think there's some dodginess with Kilmurry too in fairness. They were in last year's Munster junior final and won Cork at a bit of a canter ;D



Near sure the commentator said that's their third Munster final in a row
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on December 07, 2024, 07:40:07 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 07, 2024, 05:56:16 PMKerry long by, taking the piss,they got 64 club teams, 8 Senior? What's in Fermanagh senior championship with just over a 1/3rd the no.of the clubs compared to Kerry.

8 Senior in fermanagh too.

8 intermediate.

And 4 junior.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2024, 07:44:18 PM
You'd have good odds on Kilmurry winning that today.

Cork teams through to all hurling semi finals I think, 4 outta 6
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2024, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:34:25 PMI think there's some dodginess with Kilmurry too in fairness. They were in last year's Munster junior final and won Cork at a bit of a canter ;D



Near sure the commentator said that's their third Munster final in a row

There you have it. I think there have been some reorganisations in Cork over the last few years, but that's still a bit mad.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on December 07, 2024, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 02:39:49 PMThe state of this:
Munster Intermediate Club Football Championship Final
Full Time
Austin Stacks 7-8(29)
Aherlow  0-2(2)

GAA needs to address what Kerry (and Cavan) are putting forward as Intermediate and Junior teams.
Top 8 in Kerry are senior apparently... a joke.
County like Tyrone is top 16... (not sure about other counties).

Clare, Limerick,Tipp and Waterford senior champions would be better off entering Munster Intermediate.  Intermediate winners into Munster junior. Might make games a bit more competitive.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on December 07, 2024, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 06:12:07 PMThey can structure their championship whatever way they want. It's pretending that the first team outside the top 8 is "intermediate" in some way comparable to other counties. Same for junior.

Yeah they should be able to do whatever they want internally but should not be allowed to have their 9th best team go
into Munster intermediate. If they want to keep their system as is their junior champions should go into Munster intermediate. Their premier junior or whatever the lowest comp is called should go into Munster junior.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PM
Will do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on December 07, 2024, 08:42:06 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2024, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:34:25 PMI think there's some dodginess with Kilmurry too in fairness. They were in last year's Munster junior final and won Cork at a bit of a canter ;D



Near sure the commentator said that's their third Munster final in a row

There you have it. I think there have been some reorganisations in Cork over the last few years, but that's still a bit mad.
If a B team (or a district or combined team) win a County Title then the last standing Club side in the County enters the Provincial Club Championship.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 07, 2024, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on December 07, 2024, 02:39:49 PMThe state of this:
Munster Intermediate Club Football Championship Final
Full Time
Austin Stacks 7-8(29)
Aherlow  0-2(2)

GAA needs to address what Kerry (and Cavan) are putting forward as Intermediate and Junior teams.
Top 8 in Kerry are senior apparently... a joke.
County like Tyrone is top 16... (not sure about other counties).

Clare, Limerick,Tipp and Waterford senior champions would be off entering Munster Intermediate.  Intermediate winners into Munster junior. Might make games a bit more competitive.

This I sort of agree with actually - utterly pointless the Waterford and Limerick intermediate champions going up against Kerry and Cork. In Hurling, Kerry's Senior champions enter the Munster Intermediate, Intermediate champs enter the Munster Junior. I think a similar approach in football would be more even.

The problem of course is that every county in Munster has Senior clubs that are competitive enough. Rathgormack lost by 1 to Crokes 2 weeks ago for example. So if you try to put the Waterford IFC winners into Junior, the Waterford JFC winners will have no Munster and will kick up. But I do think it would make sense. Just won't happen, like a lot of stuff in GAA!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2024, 08:42:06 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2024, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2024, 07:34:25 PMI think there's some dodginess with Kilmurry too in fairness. They were in last year's Munster junior final and won Cork at a bit of a canter ;D



Near sure the commentator said that's their third Munster final in a row

There you have it. I think there have been some reorganisations in Cork over the last few years, but that's still a bit mad.
If a B team (or a district or combined team) win a County Title then the last standing Club side in the County enters the Provincial Club Championship.


They won Cork Junior A in 22, and were runners up in Premier Junior in 23, before winning Premier Junior this year. Either a reorg within Cork or they changed which grade winners would compete in Munster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2024, 12:15:55 AM
16 senior clubs in Antrim, 8 in Kerry. Definitely doesn't add up.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on December 08, 2024, 12:18:31 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2024, 12:15:55 AM16 senior clubs in Antrim, 8 in Kerry. Definitely doesn't add up.

Antrim would have alot bigger population than Kerry though 😛.

In all seriousness how many football and how many hurling clubs are in Antrim?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2024, 12:28:26 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on December 08, 2024, 12:18:31 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2024, 12:15:55 AM16 senior clubs in Antrim, 8 in Kerry. Definitely doesn't add up.

Antrim would have alot bigger population than Kerry though 😛.

In all seriousness how many football and how many hurling clubs are in Antrim?

Antrim SFC - 16
Ifc - 10
Jfc - 8

Antrim shc - 8 ( was 7 this year as Creggan withdrew)
Ihc - 10
Jhc - 7
Jun b - 5

Near half our football clubs play senior. Pretty much restructures as folk didn't want to take relegation on the chin.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 08, 2024, 01:21:33 AM
To win the Intermediate All Ireland

Austin Stacks 3/10
Crossmolina 11/2
BallinaderrY 9/1
Caragh 11/1
Arva 20/1
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AM
How many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on December 08, 2024, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.

Whatever about Stacks being intermediate I've absolutely no issue with players given the chance to play senior football.

Every player in every county should have the chance to play senior if good enough.

Then maybe we wouldn't have as many transfers.

Should be at least 12vsejior clubs in Kerry.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 09:33:25 AM
Again, no problem whatsoever with the Kerry divisional system and it giving players from non senior clubs to play senior.

But if they spend a couple of months playing senior championship in Kerry, and are then unleashed in the Munster Junior against the Clare junior champions, that strikes me as more than a touch unfair.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.
Disagree there, sure Fossa were a junior club for years and have just happened to get 2 unbelievable players. Why shouldnt they be allowed represent their club
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.
Disagree there, sure Fossa were a junior club for years and have just happened to get 2 unbelievable players. Why shouldnt they be allowed represent their club

Can you read? How much more clarification do you need? Because they played (and won) senior championship. In most counties there are rules against that sort of thing.

The presence of the divisional teams in the Kerry senior championships reduces the number of spots available to other clubs, so you have clubs that would be senior in almost any other county playing intermediate, same for intermediate to junior.



Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on December 08, 2024, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 09:33:25 AMAgain, no problem whatsoever with the Kerry divisional system and it giving players from non senior clubs to play senior.

But if they spend a couple of months playing senior championship in Kerry, and are then unleashed in the Munster Junior against the Clare junior champions, that strikes me as more than a touch unfair.

Is it unfair or should Clare or Cavan or whoever else not be doing the same thing.

Should we stop county players from playing aswell just because they spent half the year playing a higher grade of football with their respective counties.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 10:48:42 AM
No, obviously not. What a daft attempt at muddying the waters or trying to draw an equivalence between the two.

The issue, fundamentally, is that the intermediate and junior teams in Kerry that compete in Munster and the All Ireland are not intermediate or junior as would be defined in most other counties. A potential solution to that would be "fine, you can enter the provincial championship but your players that played senior championship this year are ineligible".

Armagh, for example, allows reserve teams to compete in their lower championships. Clann Eireann made the semis of the intermediate this year. Not sure of the details but I'm pretty certain there are rules (other than, you know, common sense and decency) that prevent them from playing lads who play for their first team in the lower grade.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.
Disagree there, sure Fossa were a junior club for years and have just happened to get 2 unbelievable players. Why shouldnt they be allowed represent their club

Can you read? How much more clarification do you need? Because they played (and won) senior championship. In most counties there are rules against that sort of thing.

The presence of the divisional teams in the Kerry senior championships reduces the number of spots available to other clubs, so you have clubs that would be senior in almost any other county playing intermediate, same for intermediate to junior.




For a different club/amalgamation of clubs you simpleton.

Agree on your second point.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?

16 club teams?? Not a hope to be totally honest, no way is there 16 Senior level clubs in Kerry. Would just lead to a load of hammerings in SFC. This was happening a bit a few years ago and was one of the reasons the number of Senior clubs was scaled back. They went too far down to 8, so it's being adjusted up to 10 again, rightly.

In County SFC We have 8 Divisional teams that are there to stay anyway (although there's a possibility of a merger of 2 of those teams, so 10 clubs along with 7/8 divisional teams those is about the right formula as far as I'm concerned.

To answer your question, there is around 58 clubs in Kerry championships. There are a few clubs hanging onto existence just about unfortunately who exist on paper but barely field outside of regional leagues. There used to be over 70 clubs. South Kerry area is decimated for one thing and the region that produced Jack O'Shea, Mick O'Connell, Maurice Fitzgerald, Mick O'Dwyer, Declan O'Sullivan and others is in a really bad way with once proud clubs amalgamating, often 3 or 4 together to make one minor team. Valentia, the club of Mick O'Connell, refielded for the first time in 5 years or so this year to stop being de-registered but they are hanging on.

I often feel like someone should do a Q&A on Kerry structures here!

Also just on Cork - they put their 25th ranked team into Munster Intermediate -  winners of Premier Intermediate championship.
Premier Senior (12 clubs + Divisions)
Senior A (12 clubs)
Premier Intermediate (12)
Intermediate A (12)
Premier Junior (12)
Junior A - literally hundreds of teams, divided into various regions.

This is the Cork structure with the winners of bolded going into Munster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.

I just can't get my head around why somebody would post utter nonsense like this!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 12:51:49 PM
Because of this bit:

Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 10:48:42 AMThe issue, fundamentally, is that the intermediate and junior teams in Kerry that compete in Munster and the All Ireland are not intermediate or junior as would be defined in most other counties.

This is the reason Kerry clubs have won twice as many AI intermediate titles as any other county. At junior it's even worse with Kerry clubs having won a full half of all the AIs. This is not news. You know this. It's not because you're all so f**king class at football.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on December 08, 2024, 01:07:08 PM
1 -How many Clubs in Ireland?

2- How many play in the Provincial Championships?

I'd suspect answer 2 is around 8% of answer 1.
Half of that 8% play 1 game.

Not exactly a major concern.

Only thing needs rectifying is Antrim.
16 Senior :o

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 03,05,08 on December 08, 2024, 01:17:39 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes
Quote from: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 08:35:51 AMHow many Stacks players this year played senior championship for St. Brendan's? Another aspect of the unfairness of it all. There should be a rule that non-senior club players in Kerry who line out with their divisional side in the senior championship are ineligible for their clubs in the provincial championship. The Cliffords whaling on junior clubs left, right and centre a few years ago comes to mind.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?

16 club teams?? Not a hope to be totally honest, no way is there 16 Senior level clubs in Kerry. Would just lead to a load of hammerings in SFC. This was happening a bit a few years ago and was one of the reasons the number of Senior clubs was scaled back. They went too far down to 8, so it's being adjusted up to 10 again, rightly.

In County SFC We have 8 Divisional teams that are there to stay anyway (although there's a possibility of a merger of 2 of those teams, so 10 clubs along with 7/8 divisional teams those is about the right formula as far as I'm concerned.

To answer your question, there is around 58 clubs in Kerry championships. There are a few clubs hanging onto existence just about unfortunately who exist on paper but barely field outside of regional leagues. There used to be over 70 clubs. South Kerry area is decimated for one thing and the region that produced Jack O'Shea, Mick O'Connell, Maurice Fitzgerald, Mick O'Dwyer, Declan O'Sullivan and others is in a really bad way with once proud clubs amalgamating, often 3 or 4 together to make one minor team. Valentia, the club of Mick O'Connell, refielded for the first time in 5 years or so this year to stop being de-registered but they are hanging on.

I often feel like someone should do a Q&A on Kerry structures here!

Also just on Cork - they put their 25th ranked team into Munster Intermediate -  winners of Premier Intermediate championship.
Premier Senior (12 clubs + Divisions)
Senior A (12 clubs)
Premier Intermediate (12)
Intermediate A (12)
Premier Junior (12)
Junior A - literally hundreds of teams, divided into various regions.

This is the Cork structure with the winners of bolded going into Munster.
to mind.

Surely if the intermediate teams always do well in prov and AI there is a decent enough standard to ad 8 teams into senior champ
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
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Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?

16 club teams?? Not a hope to be totally honest, no way is there 16 Senior level clubs in Kerry. Would just lead to a load of hammerings in SFC. This was happening a bit a few years ago and was one of the reasons the number of Senior clubs was scaled back. They went too far down to 8, so it's being adjusted up to 10 again, rightly.

In County SFC We have 8 Divisional teams that are there to stay anyway (although there's a possibility of a merger of 2 of those teams, so 10 clubs along with 7/8 divisional teams those is about the right formula as far as I'm concerned.

To answer your question, there is around 58 clubs in Kerry championships. There are a few clubs hanging onto existence just about unfortunately who exist on paper but barely field outside of regional leagues. There used to be over 70 clubs. South Kerry area is decimated for one thing and the region that produced Jack O'Shea, Mick O'Connell, Maurice Fitzgerald, Mick O'Dwyer, Declan O'Sullivan and others is in a really bad way with once proud clubs amalgamating, often 3 or 4 together to make one minor team. Valentia, the club of Mick O'Connell, refielded for the first time in 5 years or so this year to stop being de-registered but they are hanging on.

I often feel like someone should do a Q&A on Kerry structures here!

Also just on Cork - they put their 25th ranked team into Munster Intermediate -  winners of Premier Intermediate championship.
Premier Senior (12 clubs + Divisions)
Senior A (12 clubs)
Premier Intermediate (12)
Intermediate A (12)
Premier Junior (12)
Junior A - literally hundreds of teams, divided into various regions.

This is the Cork structure with the winners of bolded going into Munster.
If theres 58 teams in Kerry surely they should go 16, senior 16, intermediate, 16 junior and then 10 or whatever is left into junior b?

Theres always going to be a fair drop off between the best 2 or 3 teams in the county and the 15/16 best that's to be expected.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 08, 2024, 02:45:30 PM
58 clubs in Kerry is still way more than a no.of counties. There counties with less teams, playing 16 team senior championship. For many a year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 08, 2024, 02:45:30 PM58 clubs in Kerry still way more than a no.of places. There counties with less were playing 16 team senior championship for many a year.
16 should be the norm imo. Then make exceptions for the small counties like Fermanagh.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on December 08, 2024, 03:59:02 PM
Kerry have cooked the books, boring cvnts
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 12:43:24 PM
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Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?

16 club teams?? Not a hope to be totally honest, no way is there 16 Senior level clubs in Kerry. Would just lead to a load of hammerings in SFC. This was happening a bit a few years ago and was one of the reasons the number of Senior clubs was scaled back. They went too far down to 8, so it's being adjusted up to 10 again, rightly.

In County SFC We have 8 Divisional teams that are there to stay anyway (although there's a possibility of a merger of 2 of those teams, so 10 clubs along with 7/8 divisional teams those is about the right formula as far as I'm concerned.

To answer your question, there is around 58 clubs in Kerry championships. There are a few clubs hanging onto existence just about unfortunately who exist on paper but barely field outside of regional leagues. There used to be over 70 clubs. South Kerry area is decimated for one thing and the region that produced Jack O'Shea, Mick O'Connell, Maurice Fitzgerald, Mick O'Dwyer, Declan O'Sullivan and others is in a really bad way with once proud clubs amalgamating, often 3 or 4 together to make one minor team. Valentia, the club of Mick O'Connell, refielded for the first time in 5 years or so this year to stop being de-registered but they are hanging on.

I often feel like someone should do a Q&A on Kerry structures here!

Also just on Cork - they put their 25th ranked team into Munster Intermediate -  winners of Premier Intermediate championship.
Premier Senior (12 clubs + Divisions)
Senior A (12 clubs)
Premier Intermediate (12)
Intermediate A (12)
Premier Junior (12)
Junior A - literally hundreds of teams, divided into various regions.

This is the Cork structure with the winners of bolded going into Munster.
If theres 58 teams in Kerry surely they should go 16, senior 16, intermediate, 16 junior and then 10 or whatever is left into junior b?

Theres always going to be a fair drop off between the best 2 or 3 teams in the county and the 15/16 best that's to be expected.

You realise there's 8 divisional teams in Kerry Senior championship? 16 clubs would mean a 24 team championship. Not happening.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 08, 2024, 05:05:15 PM
Sure have a divisional championship ship! Not a made up team of clubs.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on December 08, 2024, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 04:11:37 PMYou realise there's 8 divisional teams in Kerry Senior championship? 16 clubs would mean a 24 team championship. Not happening.

There is a simple solution have a senior B championship of 8 teams. Senior B can still play with the divisional sides and the Intermediate and Junior winners properly align with the rest of the country.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 07, 2024, 08:39:50 PMWill do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.
Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!
Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?

16 club teams?? Not a hope to be totally honest, no way is there 16 Senior level clubs in Kerry. Would just lead to a load of hammerings in SFC. This was happening a bit a few years ago and was one of the reasons the number of Senior clubs was scaled back. They went too far down to 8, so it's being adjusted up to 10 again, rightly.

In County SFC We have 8 Divisional teams that are there to stay anyway (although there's a possibility of a merger of 2 of those teams, so 10 clubs along with 7/8 divisional teams those is about the right formula as far as I'm concerned.

To answer your question, there is around 58 clubs in Kerry championships. There are a few clubs hanging onto existence just about unfortunately who exist on paper but barely field outside of regional leagues. There used to be over 70 clubs. South Kerry area is decimated for one thing and the region that produced Jack O'Shea, Mick O'Connell, Maurice Fitzgerald, Mick O'Dwyer, Declan O'Sullivan and others is in a really bad way with once proud clubs amalgamating, often 3 or 4 together to make one minor team. Valentia, the club of Mick O'Connell, refielded for the first time in 5 years or so this year to stop being de-registered but they are hanging on.

I often feel like someone should do a Q&A on Kerry structures here!

Also just on Cork - they put their 25th ranked team into Munster Intermediate -  winners of Premier Intermediate championship.
Premier Senior (12 clubs + Divisions)
Senior A (12 clubs)
Premier Intermediate (12)
Intermediate A (12)
Premier Junior (12)
Junior A - literally hundreds of teams, divided into various regions.

This is the Cork structure with the winners of bolded going into Munster.
If theres 58 teams in Kerry surely they should go 16, senior 16, intermediate, 16 junior and then 10 or whatever is left into junior b?

Theres always going to be a fair drop off between the best 2 or 3 teams in the county and the 15/16 best that's to be expected.

You realise there's 8 divisional teams in Kerry Senior championship? 16 clubs would mean a 24 team championship. Not happening.
No, have a 16 team championship made up of clubs, winners goes to Munster. Run the divisional craic separate to it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 05:29:31 PM
Aye that'll work. "Here Paudie, David, youse can't play senior championship this year because we've booted out the divisions. It's ok though, we've created a new competition just for the divisions. It's really prestigious, promise".
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 08, 2024, 05:36:45 PM
I know Kerry and Cork are the only places where Divisional teams are really a part of the fabric (Tipp had a brief flirtation with it in football also in North Tipp) so wouldn't expect most people to understand the system totally but as I've said, the structure works very well for us, it's integral to how competitions are run at U20 and Minor also in Kerry. We're not changing it, I hope anyway. And to say "have a separate competition for divisions" means you don't really get it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 08, 2024, 05:53:20 PM
I'm not sure I've got this suggestion right, gallsman, but if a junior club has players good enough to make a divisional team then they lose them for the championship?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 08, 2024, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 08, 2024, 05:53:20 PMI'm not sure I've got this suggestion right, gallsman, but if a junior club has players good enough to make a divisional team then they lose them for the championship?

No, I'm suggesting that, in an attempt to address the clear problem of Kerry intermediate and junior teams in Munster not really being intermediate or junior teams as would be understood in most other counties, and in the absence of any significant change to the existing structure of the Kerry championships, they lose them for the provincial/AI series.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 08, 2024, 08:01:53 PM
I get why you are suggesting it and I agree that there is an unfairness in how Kerry put forward a lot of their teams.
There are some Kerry Intermediate & Junior teams who are genuine or for whom a case could be made. How do we differentiate?

Austin Stacks & Fossa have been mentioned recently.
Austin Stacks were in Division 2 in the league this year I think. In Tyrone, that would automatically make them an Intermediate team.
When Fossa won junior they were way down the leagues in Kerry.
I'm not sure these teams should have to ditch their best players to continue in Munster.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 08, 2024, 08:25:22 PM
To win the Senior All-Ireland

Cuala 13/8
Dr Crokes 15/8
Errigal Ciaran 5/2
Coolera Strandhill 9/1
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 08, 2024, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 08, 2024, 01:07:08 PM1 -How many Clubs in Ireland?

2- How many play in the Provincial Championships?

I'd suspect answer 2 is around 8% of answer 1.
Half of that 8% play 1 game.

Not exactly a major concern.

Only thing needs rectifying is Antrim.
16 Senior :o



Luckily we put forward a team that finished 3rd in Division 1 as our intermediate champions.
They were beaten by the team who finished about 20th in Tyrone.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AM
My club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 09, 2024, 12:59:51 AM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

That was a very good game Rathmore v Galbally, no shame in losing that one.

And by the way,a team who finished 4th in Division 1 of the league in Kerry this year, lost the County Premier Junior Semi final to a team who played in Division 3. Just goes to show once again,League is League and Championship is Championship. Simple concept that many fail to grasp seemingly.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2024, 01:44:57 AM
No, what you can't grasp, is the 9th strongest team in Kerry ends up playing the 17th strongest team from another county. If they were playing the 9th strongest team from these counties. The Kerry teams would win f**k all 75% of the time. Imagine the 9th strongest team in Dublin playing in the All-Ireland Intermediate championship
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on December 09, 2024, 08:48:55 AM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

Kerry won 5 in a row All Ireland Junior (county) titles from 2015-2019, look at those team sheets and you'll see countless future Kerry seniors, the integrity of the competition was shat on for the 'glory' of romping to wins and soft days out at Croke Park, its all they care about and within the county it comes from the top. Such was the abuse the competition was reconfigured (for the worse) with the last remaining eligible team in Ireland being the Kilkenny footballers.

Just look at the reaction to their intermediate and junior teams being beaten, Moy and Derrytresk spring to mind, the victors were dragged through the mud because they didn't roll over and have their belly tickled.

The soft mentality is evident down the line at Senior county level, when put up to them, when its not a facile win they have a known tendency to fold
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AM
Crokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on December 09, 2024, 11:32:28 AM
Just stop the annual embarrassing whingefest!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 09, 2024, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.
agree
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on December 09, 2024, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 08, 2024, 08:25:22 PMTo win the Senior All-Ireland

Cuala 13/8
Dr Crokes 15/8
Errigal Ciaran 5/2
Coolera Strandhill 9/1

Errigal be the value bet there you would think. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on December 09, 2024, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.

Why should it state such a number in such detail, given that one county has 50 times as many people as another?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2024, 12:52:08 PM
Somebody bring up the leagues set up in both Dublin and Cork. They have a serious amount of teams.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 09, 2024, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.

Why should it state such a number in such detail, given that one county has 50 times as many people as another?

Hence why Cork run Premier , Senior A, etc etc.

I'm not sure of the particular reason for 16 as a cut off, but maybe with the introduction of Provincial and AI intermediate and Junior club championships that might need a bit more looking into to given the imbalance towards Kerry club teams at intermediate and junior level.

In intermediate Kerry teams have contested 9 of the 20 AI finals, winning 7, way more than the next county.

In junior it's even more stark, Kerry clubs have contested 15 AI finals, winning 11 in the 22 years of it!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.



Is there an official minimum number of teams? There's your problem if not. You're not allowed more than 16 which tbh if you want more is hurting your own counties chances of progression but you could have as few as you please.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.



Is there an official minimum number of teams? There's your problem if not. You're not allowed more than 16 which tbh if you want more is hurting your own counties chances of progression but you could have as few as you please.

No minimum in the Official Guide.

That would be hard to enforce especially with the likes of a weaker code in a lot of counties where there may only be a few teams anyway.

For years there were only 3 teams in the Down senior hurling championship.

How many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 09, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
Fermanagh down to 1 senior hurling club I thought I read.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on December 09, 2024, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PMHow many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

Donegal have about 8 or so. The winners go into the Ulster Intermediate. They've about 4 teams playing Intermediate, and the winners go into Ulster Junior. Donegal hurling has come on a lot in the last 10 years.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on December 09, 2024, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PMHow many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

Donegal have about 8 or so. The winners go into the Ulster Intermediate. They've about 4 teams playing Intermediate, and the winners go into Ulster Junior. Donegal hurling has come on a lot in the last 10 years.

8 hurling teams in total?

You can now understand why the Official Guide can't have a minimum number of senior teams, it's just unworkable across the country.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2024, 04:02:02 PM
Donegal championship wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donegal_Senior_Hurling_Championship)

It's a minefield the whole thing.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on December 09, 2024, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:54:40 PM8 hurling teams in total?

I think so. I think the 4 Intermediate teams are just reserve/seconds teams from the 8 Senior teams. Four Masters and Letterkenny Gaels played in the Ulster Junior league but I didnt see them mentioned in the Donegal championships. Maybe they're just getting going at Senior level. 10 teams at most.

There's only 8 Senior teams in Derry hurling.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 09, 2024, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: statto on December 09, 2024, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 08, 2024, 08:25:22 PMTo win the Senior All-Ireland

Cuala 13/8
Dr Crokes 15/8
Errigal Ciaran 5/2
Coolera Strandhill 9/1


Errigal be the value bet there you would think. 

Agreed they are the best value there and I'll be surprised if they don't at least reach the final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 05:04:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.



Is there an official minimum number of teams? There's your problem if not. You're not allowed more than 16 which tbh if you want more is hurting your own counties chances of progression but you could have as few as you please.

No minimum in the Official Guide.

That would be hard to enforce especially with the likes of a weaker code in a lot of counties where there may only be a few teams anyway.

For years there were only 3 teams in the Down senior hurling championship.

How many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

I think it would have to be done in terms of a percentage more than a hard number as such.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: blanketattack on December 09, 2024, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

🤣🤣 Whining about a team because they came 5th in the league!
What has a league where teams play without their county players got to do with anything?
All Rathmore's toughest games in the run to win the All-Ireland Intermediate Championship came in Kerry. Barely beating Gaeltacht and Laune Rangers and losing to Milltown/Castlemaine.
Any of the top 10 intermediate clubs in Kerry would have won the All-Ireland that year. There wasn't anything decent out there that year.
Since then there's been some very good intermediate teams and Kerry haven't featured at all. Those clubs didn't go on whining about it being unfair, they just went out and did the business.

Kerry's system predates by a long shot not just the intermediate/junior club All-Ireland series but the senior one as well, so Kerry haven't done anything untoward as a means of gaining an advantage.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ClubScene13 on December 09, 2024, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on December 09, 2024, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

🤣🤣 Whining about a team because they came 5th in the league!
What has a league where teams play without their county players got to do with anything?
All Rathmore's toughest games in the run to win the All-Ireland Intermediate Championship came in Kerry. Barely beating Gaeltacht and Laune Rangers and losing to Milltown/Castlemaine.
Any of the top 10 intermediate clubs in Kerry would have won the All-Ireland that year. There wasn't anything decent out there that year.
Since then there's been some very good intermediate teams and Kerry haven't featured at all. Those clubs didn't go on whining about it being unfair, they just went out and did the business.

Kerry's system predates by a long shot not just the intermediate/junior club All-Ireland series but the senior one as well, so Kerry haven't done anything untoward as a means of gaining an advantage.

Obviously? That's the problem? 8 senior teams with a tradition that strong is hilarious? Ridiculous take good man
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ClubScene13 on December 09, 2024, 05:32:18 PM
Since then he says, a grand sample size of one year. The mind boggles
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2024, 05:49:56 PM
Divisional teams aren't really a team at all, just a district area. In short a made up team!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: twohands!!! on December 09, 2024, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2024, 05:49:56 PMDivisional teams aren't really a team at all, just a district area. In short a made up team!

As opposed to "club" teams who are made-up of people from a specific district or area ?

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 08:20:37 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on December 09, 2024, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

🤣🤣 Whining about a team because they came 5th in the league!
What has a league where teams play without their county players got to do with anything?
All Rathmore's toughest games in the run to win the All-Ireland Intermediate Championship came in Kerry. Barely beating Gaeltacht and Laune Rangers and losing to Milltown/Castlemaine.
Any of the top 10 intermediate clubs in Kerry would have won the All-Ireland that year. There wasn't anything decent out there that year.
Since then there's been some very good intermediate teams and Kerry haven't featured at all. Those clubs didn't go on whining about it being unfair, they just went out and did the business.

Kerry's system predates by a long shot not just the intermediate/junior club All-Ireland series but the senior one as well, so Kerry haven't done anything untoward as a means of gaining an advantage.

That's because 8 of those teams would be Senior in any other county. I Know if we parachuted 8 of our Senior teams into the Mayo Intermediate championship and 8 of our Intermediate teams into the Junior Championship. I'd expect us to win Connacht and AI titles regularly.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on December 09, 2024, 08:43:56 PM
Flat track bully is the Kerry MO, congratulations in advance to Austin Stacks, embarrassed 4u
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PM
To be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 09, 2024, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PMTo be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 



3 former senior winners could be in the last 4 of the AI Intermediate
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2024, 09:54:02 PM
Glenullin, while in Intermediate requested to play Derry Senior championship one year, left a odd 17 team senior championship that year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on December 10, 2024, 11:30:40 AM

Yea but they'd just won the intermediate so they should have been senior - Derry shoud have relegated a club to facilitate.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on December 10, 2024, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 10, 2024, 11:30:40 AMYea but they'd just won the intermediate so they should have been senior - Derry shoud have relegated a club to facilitate.
So they won intermediate but had to request to be moved up to senior?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on December 10, 2024, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on December 10, 2024, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 10, 2024, 11:30:40 AMYea but they'd just won the intermediate so they should have been senior - Derry shoud have relegated a club to facilitate.
So they won intermediate but had to request to be moved up to senior?

Yes, linked with the league. Glenullin didn't want to be playing intermediate, they wanted senior

Senior All Ireland club is the only level playing field, intermediate and junior isn't, not sure what can be done about it. Most clubs who are actual junior and intermediate level just hope for a kind draw when heading into the provincials
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Keyser soze on December 10, 2024, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 10, 2024, 11:30:40 AMYea but they'd just won the intermediate so they should have been senior - Derry shoud have relegated a club to facilitate.

Nonsense. You are talking about 2 different times, this was a number of years ago when they had just been relegated from senior .
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: oakleaflad on December 10, 2024, 11:56:18 AM
All the nonsense during the Covid years really didn't help Glenullin. Should have been promoted a couple times. Held Desertmartin and Craigbane back from promotion to intermediate/Div 2 also. There was a few years where there was no promotion/relegation if I remember correctly.

Edit: Aware this isn't the time Glenullin played in the 17 team senior championship, which was a good number of years earlier.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on December 10, 2024, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 10, 2024, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on December 10, 2024, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 10, 2024, 11:30:40 AMYea but they'd just won the intermediate so they should have been senior - Derry shoud have relegated a club to facilitate.
So they won intermediate but had to request to be moved up to senior?

Yes, linked with the league. Glenullin didn't want to be playing intermediate, they wanted senior

Senior All Ireland club is the only level playing field, intermediate and junior isn't, not sure what can be done about it. Most clubs who are actual junior and intermediate level just hope for a kind draw when heading into the provincials
Honestly can't get my head around some county structures. In Tyrone if you win the league, league playoffs or Championship you're promoted. You have 1 team go straight down and second and third from bottom in senior play against each other, loser is relegated and winner meets the playoff winner from intermediate. Think they complicated it too much. Should go back to what it was, bottom 2 teams go down just and league winner and championship winner in intermediate are promoted. Just found it funny how after winning intermediate Glenullin had to ask to be promoted lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on December 10, 2024, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on December 10, 2024, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 10, 2024, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on December 10, 2024, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 10, 2024, 11:30:40 AMYea but they'd just won the intermediate so they should have been senior - Derry shoud have relegated a club to facilitate.
So they won intermediate but had to request to be moved up to senior?

Yes, linked with the league. Glenullin didn't want to be playing intermediate, they wanted senior

Senior All Ireland club is the only level playing field, intermediate and junior isn't, not sure what can be done about it. Most clubs who are actual junior and intermediate level just hope for a kind draw when heading into the provincials
Honestly can't get my head around some county structures. In Tyrone if you win the league, league playoffs or Championship you're promoted. You have 1 team go straight down and second and third from bottom in senior play against each other, loser is relegated and winner meets the playoff winner from intermediate. Think they complicated it too much. Should go back to what it was, bottom 2 teams go down just and league winner and championship winner in intermediate are promoted. Just found it funny how after winning intermediate Glenullin had to ask to be promoted lol
That third playoff spot Keeps the league interesting especially if one team has pulled away. There's something to play for, for the next 4. Means more competitive games for longer.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 11, 2024, 05:32:01 PM
Senior All Ireland Semi Finals.

Sunday January 5th

Coolera-Strandhill (Sligo) v Cuala (Dublin) - Breffni Park 1:30pm
Dr Crokes (Kerry) v  Errigal Ciaran (Tyrone) - O'Moore Park 3:30pm

Final in Croke Park on January 19th


Intermediate All Ireland Semi finals

Saturday January 4th

Crossmolina (Mayo) v Caragh (Kildare) - Pearse Park Longford 1pm
Austin Stacks (Kerry) v Ballinderry (Derry)  O'Connor Park 1pm

Intermediate AI final Sunday January 12th in Croke Park


Junior All Ireland Quarter final Sunday January 5th

Tara (London) v Naomh Padraig Muff (Donegal)  - Mc Govern Park 12pm


Junior All Ireland Semi finals

Sunday January 5th

An Cheathru Rua (Galway) v Ballinagar (Offaly) - Dr Hyde Park 1pm

Sunday January 12th

Kilmurray (Cork) v Tara (London) or Naomh Padraig Muff (Donegal) - Parnell Park.


Junior final Croke Park  Saturday January 25th
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: From the Bunker on December 11, 2024, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 09, 2024, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PMTo be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 



3 former senior winners could be in the last 4 of the AI Intermediate

Crossmolina were relegated in 2018. They were not good enough to remain in the Top 16 of Mayo Football! Winning the AI 17 years earlier has little relevance to the present Crossmolina group.


Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2024, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 09, 2024, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PMTo be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 



3 former senior winners could be in the last 4 of the AI Intermediate

Crossmolina were relegated in 2018. They were not good enough to remain in the Top 16 of Mayo Football! Winning the AI 17 years earlier has little relevance to the present Crossmolina group.



True obviously but still an interesting stat.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 11, 2024, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2024, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 09, 2024, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PMTo be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 



3 former senior winners could be in the last 4 of the AI Intermediate

Crossmolina were relegated in 2018. They were not good enough to remain in the Top 16 of Mayo Football! Winning the AI 17 years earlier has little relevance to the present Crossmolina group.



Last Mayo Connacht Intermediate winner was Westport who went on to win the All Ireland in 2017 taking out the Kerry champions on route. Crossmolina are similar now with their rise from the introduction of underage county players and along with current seniors Conor Loftus,Jordan Flynn they will very much fancy themselves to match Westport feat this January.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on December 12, 2024, 01:02:55 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2024, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 09, 2024, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PMTo be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 



3 former senior winners could be in the last 4 of the AI Intermediate

Crossmolina were relegated in 2018. They were not good enough to remain in the Top 16 of Mayo Football! Winning the AI 17 years earlier has little relevance to the present Crossmolina group.




Little relevance but I guarantee they're sick of hearing about how much better those lads were than they are
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2024, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2024, 01:02:55 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2024, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 09, 2024, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2024, 09:05:35 PMTo be fair it's not Austin Stacks fault that they are in this position.

There is a handy Intermediate Club AI to be won and you can't expect them to renege on that.

The system is set up for them and it's up to the authorities to set the rules. 



3 former senior winners could be in the last 4 of the AI Intermediate

Crossmolina were relegated in 2018. They were not good enough to remain in the Top 16 of Mayo Football! Winning the AI 17 years earlier has little relevance to the present Crossmolina group.




Little relevance but I guarantee they're sick of hearing about how much better those lads were than they are

Most clubs go through cycles, sometimes it's great and other times it's just ok, it's about making the most of the good times, and preparing for the next generation.

Crossmolina, done that, I wouldn't imagine the current players dwell on that great team, probably most can remember or were an age that loved the road trips, they'd be great memories tbf
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 10:50:13 AM
semi finals this weekend?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on December 31, 2024, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 10:50:13 AMsemi finals this weekend?

Score Beo app is great for fixtures (as well as scores obviously)

'Intermediate' semis, senior and the rearranged twinning junior on this weekend
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 31, 2024, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 10:50:13 AMsemi finals this weekend?

Score Beo app is great for fixtures (as well as scores obviously)

'Intermediate' semis, senior and the rearranged twinning junior on this weekend

I forgot all about that app. Cheers
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 31, 2024, 01:47:45 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 31, 2024, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 10:50:13 AMsemi finals this weekend?

Score Beo app is great for fixtures (as well as scores obviously)

'Intermediate' semis, senior and the rearranged twinning junior on this weekend

I forgot all about that app. Cheers
Going back one page in this thread also answers your question.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 02:16:48 PM
I had also forgot how prickish people here can be
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on December 31, 2024, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 02:16:48 PMI had also forgot how prickish people here can be

I'm prickish one after posting up all fixtures with dates, times and venues?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on December 31, 2024, 03:59:20 PM
Go easy men, we've all had a few
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 31, 2024, 02:16:48 PMI had also forgot how prickish people here can be

Had forgotten*
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 03, 2025, 09:33:40 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/kerrys-internal-compromise-could-ease-their-distortion-of-intermediate-and-junior-grades-D4PIIWJHSZCFTMK5UT75OUSEYY/
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 09:59:37 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 03, 2025, 09:33:40 AMhttps://www.irishnews.com/gaa/kerrys-internal-compromise-could-ease-their-distortion-of-intermediate-and-junior-grades-D4PIIWJHSZCFTMK5UT75OUSEYY/
Ballinderry Division 1 club can't really complain, they're doing the exact same in Derry letting Division 1 clubs playing Intermediate & Division 2 clubs play Junior.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on January 03, 2025, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 03, 2025, 09:33:40 AMhttps://www.irishnews.com/gaa/kerrys-internal-compromise-could-ease-their-distortion-of-intermediate-and-junior-grades-D4PIIWJHSZCFTMK5UT75OUSEYY/

On Sunday, Dr Crokes will face Errigal Ciaran in the All-Ireland senior semi-final in Portlaoise.

Crokes beat St Brendan's in the Kerry SFC semi-final.

The St Brendan's team had Michael Tansley, Colin Griffin, Armin Heinrich, Joe O'Connor, Daniel Kirby and Paddy Lane playing that day.

Those six will all be playing for Austin Stacks in Saturday's All-Ireland intermediate semi-final against Ballinderry.

Good article, they want to eat their cake and still have their cake and its bullshit

Then again Kerry not being able to play in the Munster Hurling Championship is also bullshit

More reform needed
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on January 03, 2025, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 09:59:37 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 03, 2025, 09:33:40 AMhttps://www.irishnews.com/gaa/kerrys-internal-compromise-could-ease-their-distortion-of-intermediate-and-junior-grades-D4PIIWJHSZCFTMK5UT75OUSEYY/
Ballinderry Division 1 club can't really complain, they're doing the exact same in Derry letting Division 1 clubs playing Intermediate & Division 2 clubs play Junior.

Seems to be that every county seems to do what suits themselves.  Derry seems to have done this just this past year or two.

Good now there's a light being shone on these things now. Whether it makes any difference, time will tell.

It's mainly affecting the intermediate and junior championships.  I think, in a way, that teams at these levels are happy to win their county championships and they're not badly worried about the system.  then they get a trimming an they're not happy. Understandable.

The provincial councils must make rules and then enforce them - like Sars representing Cork, instead of senior championship winners Imokilly, in the Munster championhip. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2025, 10:23:36 AM
Imokilly, couldn't play in the provincial championship

Same as East Kerry in the football if they had one Championship in Kerry
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:24:14 AM
Imokilly is a regional amalgamation, which are banned from provincial competitions.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2025, 10:32:33 AM
Castleisland Desmonds I think were the last All Ireland club champions that were a Kerry amalgamation, before that Thomond College beat the Antrim Champions St John's .. UCD won two and East Kerry the first winners, but Bellaghy the first actual club winners.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:36:13 AM
Castleisland is a club.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2025, 11:17:52 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:36:13 AMCastleisland is a club.

Ok, fair play
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on January 03, 2025, 05:23:17 PM
Looking like a quare weekend of weather for the AI semis
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 03, 2025, 05:56:31 PM
Stacks/Ballinderry move to Parnell Park I believe.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on January 03, 2025, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 03, 2025, 05:56:31 PMStacks/Ballinderry move to Parnell Park I believe.

Travelling back to Kerry might be "interesting", depending on how things turn out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 03, 2025, 11:56:46 PM
The links to watch tomorrow's two Intermediate All Ireland semi finals if they go ahead.



Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 04, 2025, 12:04:49 PM
Errigal Ciaran - Dr Crokes OFF to next Saturday 11th.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 12:36:38 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 04, 2025, 12:04:49 PMErrigal Ciaran - Dr Crokes OFF to next Saturday 11th.

Ref'd a hurling game last night, pitch was grand for hurling, better for football
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 04, 2025, 02:21:24 PM
Straight forward win for Crossmolina against Caragh of Kildare. 1-12 to 0-6. Strong defensively which always gives a side a good chance of winning the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 04, 2025, 02:30:32 PM
Austin Stacks way stronger than Ballinderry. What has happened to Ryan Bell, lad should be running the show. He looks a stone and a half overweight for just this level. Ballinderry hasn't the sense to press them with the extra man.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on January 04, 2025, 02:39:26 PM
I think crucial time was 10 mins before half-time and AS's lad got a black card. Ballinderry didn't push on.

Very pedestrian game.

A lot of training and fitness but you'd have to ask what for? Lads just jog up and down pitch casually and pass it sideways. Only bit of intensity is in final third when the ball goes in there.

No sense of urgency in football nowadays. Hopefully new rules will improve things.

A goal will be a big boost in the second half...to either side.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 04, 2025, 03:05:52 PM
Ballinderry hit the front with 45 minutes on the clock. Two points ahead now.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 04, 2025, 03:06:17 PM
Four in a row from Ballinderry to go a point up after 45 minutes.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 04, 2025, 03:14:28 PM
Bell doin alright for a boy overweight...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 03:16:39 PM
This didn't look likely around the 40 min mark.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on January 04, 2025, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 04, 2025, 03:05:52 PMBallinderry hit the front with 45 minutes on the clock. Two points ahead now.

A lot more urgency by Ballinderry in the second half and deserveredly in front.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 04, 2025, 03:20:08 PM
Four up now, in injury time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 04, 2025, 03:23:20 PM
Well done Ballinderry 0-11 to 0-7 winners. Another Ulster team on course to win another All-Ireland football All-Ireland!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 04, 2025, 03:23:53 PM
Very strong finish from the Shamrocks. Worthy winners.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 03:30:03 PM
2001 and 2002 Senior Winners meet in the Intermediate Final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 04, 2025, 03:35:12 PM
Well makes a change from nearly a Kerry team every year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 04, 2025, 03:35:12 PMWell makes a change from nearly a Kerry team every year.

And it had to take a Division 1 team to beat them.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 04, 2025, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 04, 2025, 02:30:32 PMAustin Stacks way stronger than Ballinderry. What has happened to Ryan Bell, lad should be running the show. He looks a stone and a half overweight for just this level. Ballinderry hasn't the sense to press them with the extra man.

He was the Shamrock's best player in the championship imo

Congrats to them, will be some final by the looks of it
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 04, 2025, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 04, 2025, 03:23:20 PMWell done Ballinderry 0-11 to 0-7 winners. Another Ulster team on course to win another All-Ireland football All-Ireland!

Yup , looks like that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on January 04, 2025, 06:28:06 PM
Maybe more counties should cook the books like Derry.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: GTP on January 04, 2025, 06:57:24 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 04, 2025, 06:28:06 PMMaybe more counties should cook the books like Derry.
They won two games in Ulster by a point the other by 5. Hardly indicates a huge superiority over their contemporaries. And they were relegated from Derry senior championship, if I recall correctly, without winning a group or relegation play off game.
Congratulations Ballinderry on reaching the Intermediate final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 04, 2025, 07:14:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 04, 2025, 12:04:49 PMErrigal Ciaran - Dr Crokes OFF to next Saturday 11th.

Other senior semi final Strandhill v Cuala also off and to be played next Saturday.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 07:19:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 04, 2025, 07:14:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 04, 2025, 12:04:49 PMErrigal Ciaran - Dr Crokes OFF to next Saturday 11th.

Other senior semi final Strandhill v Cuala also off and to be played next Saturday.

At least no team is getting an advantage now with extra days rest.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: GTP on January 04, 2025, 06:57:24 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 04, 2025, 06:28:06 PMMaybe more counties should cook the books like Derry.
They won two games in Ulster by a point the other by 5. Hardly indicates a huge superiority over their contemporaries. And they were relegated from Derry senior championship, if I recall correctly, without winning a group or relegation play off game.
Congratulations Ballinderry on reaching the Intermediate final.

Their Semi-Final was a one point hammering and the Final was against another Division 1 team.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PM
The second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 07:58:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

The semis 2 years ago were in Croke Park. Why the change since?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lenny on January 04, 2025, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Disagree on that. February and march are the months where snow is most common believe it or not. Also as a Derry supporter I don't want us to have to wait until the middle of March to have McKinless and Forbes available to us, the league is nearly over at that stage.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: lenny on January 04, 2025, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Disagree on that. February and march are the months where snow is most common believe it or not. Also as a Derry supporter I don't want us to have to wait until the middle of March to have McKinless and Forbes available to us, the league is nearly over at that stage.

Again you've brought up the less than 1% ..
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 04, 2025, 09:44:57 PM
Probably already said but Ballinderry never got to play in Croke Park in 2002. Good to see their supporters get this chance.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: onefineday on January 04, 2025, 10:14:02 PM
Why didn't they just change venues for the senior finals? They've had a good bit of notice all week that certain parts of the country were likely to be snowed under tomorrow. Fix both semis for east of the island and cancel in the morning if needs be.
Conditions would hardly be worse than last year's semi in the fog in Newry!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lenny on January 04, 2025, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: lenny on January 04, 2025, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Disagree on that. February and march are the months where snow is most common believe it or not. Also as a Derry supporter I don't want us to have to wait until the middle of March to have McKinless and Forbes available to us, the league is nearly over at that stage.

Again you've brought up the less than 1% ..

How many club players are still involved in the championship. Probably less than 1%. You are saying that the remaining 2 rounds should take about 11 weeks to play just so the final can be on st patrick's day to indulge less than 1% of players. I completely disagree with that idea.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 10:56:25 PM
Quote from: lenny on January 04, 2025, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: lenny on January 04, 2025, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Disagree on that. February and march are the months where snow is most common believe it or not. Also as a Derry supporter I don't want us to have to wait until the middle of March to have McKinless and Forbes available to us, the league is nearly over at that stage.

Again you've brought up the less than 1% ..

How many club players are still involved in the championship. Probably less than 1%. You are saying that the remaining 2 rounds should take about 11 weeks to play just so the final can be on st patrick's day to indulge less than 1% of players. I completely disagree with that idea.

Yeah I said less than 1% in my post..

I'm not sure if you played or have a club that's  been involved or whatever, but the for me, and I'm not alone, the loss of the Paddy's final has taken the shine off the GAA calendar for me. For me club more important than county, so what if three or four players are missing from the league for two counties, the leagues are playing, the championship is for winning.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 05, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Making a handful of teams train for weeks for St Patrick Day games was ridiculous in the extreme
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2025, 12:39:23 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 05, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Making a handful of teams train for weeks for St Patrick Day games was ridiculous in the extreme

Of course, never seen a team complain about training for an All Ireland but hey ho.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 05, 2025, 06:44:39 AM
I really enjoyed the finals being on Paddy's day but in hindsight the delay between end of provincial championship to 17th March was probably too long.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 05, 2025, 08:36:21 AM
Was at last years Finals.
Apart from the football result it was a grand occasion no way diminished and much more timely.
Also much better than trying to travel with all the St Patricks day stuff going on.
Also meant ALL Clubs were able to start the Co Leagues at the start of March with the Brigids lads having a break.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 05, 2025, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2025, 12:39:23 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 05, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Making a handful of teams train for weeks for St Patrick Day games was ridiculous in the extreme

Of course, never seen a team complain about training for an All Ireland but hey ho.

I have, I've spoken with Derry club players / organisers and the work that goes in to organising challenge matches, pitches etc for weeks on is a complete handling from the turn of the year to the middle of March, not to mention the cost. Captain Contrary
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2025, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 05, 2025, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2025, 12:39:23 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 05, 2025, 12:08:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2025, 07:32:28 PMThe second semi final today was played on a cracking pitch.

Why not have these games at this time of year in Croke?

The disaster of changing it from Paddy's day has thrown up these problems. Again the 1% controlling rest

Making a handful of teams train for weeks for St Patrick Day games was ridiculous in the extreme

Of course, never seen a team complain about training for an All Ireland but hey ho.

I have, I've spoken with Derry club players / organisers and the work that goes in to organising challenge matches, pitches etc for weeks on is a complete handling from the turn of the year to the middle of March, not to mention the cost. Captain Contrary

Well anytime we were involved it was a great period for the club, especially during times when activity at the club was normally dead, kids would have been at training sessions the club had a buzz over Xmas, lads running in the dunes on New Years morning having challenge games in January rather than the normal pre season grind training I found better.

The bus trips to the semifinals the banter with the supporters of the other teams didn't seem to be a fuss
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Deerstalker on January 05, 2025, 11:20:10 AM
You seem to be totally missing the point
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 05, 2025, 12:54:30 PM
Junior semi final starts at 1pm

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2025, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on January 05, 2025, 11:20:10 AMYou seem to be totally missing the point

I've made my point, this is a place to debate it, they are opinions. The cost and training through Xmas is part of it.

It affects 4 club teams, to say it's ridiculous in the extreme is, extreme

But each to their own

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 05, 2025, 02:32:37 PM
Results

Junior semi final
An Cheathru Rua (Galway) 1-9 Ballinagar (Offaly) 0-11

Junior quarter final
Tara (London) 1-8  Naomh Padraig Muff (Donegal) 4-10

Kilmurray (Cork) they play next weekend in  Parnell Park.


Junior final Croke Park  Saturday January 25th
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hereiam on January 08, 2025, 12:15:38 PM
Will Errigal v Dr Crokes game be moved as its giving heavy snow on Friday, doubt pitch will be in poor condition
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2025, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on January 08, 2025, 12:15:38 PMWill Errigal v Dr Crokes game be moved as its giving heavy snow on Friday, doubt pitch will be in poor condition

I hear they are aiming for the 17/3/25 ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 08, 2025, 03:27:13 PM
Moved to Newbridge
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 08, 2025, 05:52:26 PM
Saturday 11 January

All-Ireland Club SFC semi-finals
Coolera Strandhill (Sligo) v Cuala (Dublin), Kingspan Breffni, 5pm - TG4
Dr Crokes (Kerry) v Errigal Ciaran (Tyrone), Newbridge, 3pm - TG4

Sunday 12 January

All-Ireland Club IFC Final
Crossmolina Deel Rovers (Mayo) v Ballinderry (Derry), Croke Park, 4.30pm - TG4


All-Ireland Club JFC Semi-Final
Kilmurray (Cork) v Naomh Padraig Muff (Donegal), Parnell Park, 2pm, - TG4 YouTube



 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 09, 2025, 09:07:36 AM
Have Crossmolina been in the intermediate ranks for a while now? Two teams with good pedigree at senior football 20 years ago in intermediate final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: fearsiuil on January 09, 2025, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: statto on January 09, 2025, 09:07:36 AMHave Crossmolina been in the intermediate ranks for a while now? Two teams with good pedigree at senior football 20 years ago in intermediate final.

Crossmolina relegated in 2018, they had been up senior since 1981.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 09, 2025, 10:12:18 AM
what ever happened Aodh Ruadh Ballyshannon ? remember Bellaghy playing them in 1994 ulster club
Remember hearing they were playing junior in donegal a few years ago
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 09, 2025, 11:06:38 AM
Senior Club Football semis may be moved to Croke Park.
Decision to be made tomorrow morning they say.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 09, 2025, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 09, 2025, 11:06:38 AMSenior Club Football semis may be moved to Croke Park.
Decision to be made tomorrow morning they say.
Would probably make sense as they need to be played this weekend with the final scheduled for next week.  Malachy O'Rourke could do with it being played anyway!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 09, 2025, 12:38:02 PM
Quote from: statto on January 09, 2025, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 09, 2025, 11:06:38 AMSenior Club Football semis may be moved to Croke Park.
Decision to be made tomorrow morning they say.
Would probably make sense as they need to be played this weekend with the final scheduled for next week.  Malachy O'Rourke could do with it being played anyway!
Postpone the final another lock of weeks til after we play Tyrone sure ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RossaGael98 on January 09, 2025, 04:22:29 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked, has any club ever won both the hurling and football senior titles? Cuala obv have a chance this year has have 2 hurling titles.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 09, 2025, 04:28:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2025, 12:38:02 PM
Quote from: statto on January 09, 2025, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 09, 2025, 11:06:38 AMSenior Club Football semis may be moved to Croke Park.
Decision to be made tomorrow morning they say.
Would probably make sense as they need to be played this weekend with the final scheduled for next week.  Malachy O'Rourke could do with it being played anyway!
Postpone the final another lock of weeks til after we play Tyrone sure ;)
Email from Jarlath on the way no doubt ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: barelegs on January 09, 2025, 04:44:36 PM
Quote from: RossaGael98 on January 09, 2025, 04:22:29 PMSorry if this has already been asked, has any club ever won both the hurling and football senior titles? Cuala obv have a chance this year has have 2 hurling titles.

St Finbarr's from Cork have 3 football and 2 hurling
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on January 09, 2025, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: RossaGael98 on January 09, 2025, 04:22:29 PMSorry if this has already been asked, has any club ever won both the hurling and football senior titles? Cuala obv have a chance this year has have 2 hurling titles.

Not the same obviously but Slaughtneil were Ulster champions in football, hurling and Camogie at the same time which was very impressive. Only their Camogs have went on to win the All Ireland though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 10, 2025, 01:51:38 AM
Quote from: barelegs on January 09, 2025, 04:44:36 PM
Quote from: RossaGael98 on January 09, 2025, 04:22:29 PMSorry if this has already been asked, has any club ever won both the hurling and football senior titles? Cuala obv have a chance this year has have 2 hurling titles.

St Finbarr's from Cork have 3 football and 2 hurling

I think St Finbarrs achievement of playing in 3 All Ireland club finals in 12 months between 1980 and 81 - winning back to back football titles and losing the 81 hurling final has to go down as remarkable. I think there was 5/6 players that played in all 3 finals too. The great JBM and Christy Ryan certainly did anyway.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AM
Sounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 10, 2025, 09:48:30 AM
Are the senior semis OK to go as planned?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: toby47 on January 10, 2025, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AMSounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.

Tragic, heartbreaking stuff.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: galwayman on January 10, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AMSounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.
Horrendous tragedy. Calling the game off is the right thing to do.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 10, 2025, 10:09:35 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 10, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AMSounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.
Horrendous tragedy. Calling the game off is the right thing to do.
Ah no, sorry to read that. Obviously football takes a back seat.   Who passed away, hadn't heard anything.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 10, 2025, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2025, 10:09:35 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 10, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AMSounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.
Horrendous tragedy. Calling the game off is the right thing to do.
Ah no, sorry to read that. Obviously football takes a back seat.   Who passed away, hadn't heard anything.

a tragedy as discussed, not something we like to discuss on a public forum.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 10, 2025, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 10, 2025, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2025, 10:09:35 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 10, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AMSounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.
Horrendous tragedy. Calling the game off is the right thing to do.
Ah no, sorry to read that. Obviously football takes a back seat.   Who passed away, hadn't heard anything.

a tragedy as discussed, not something we like to discuss on a public forum.
Fair enough. RIP.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: blanketattack on January 10, 2025, 07:37:16 PM
RIP
Hope the widespread use of the word 'tragedy' isn't the usual euphemism it's become.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 10, 2025, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2025, 10:09:35 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 10, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2025, 03:16:24 AMSounds like Ballinderry / Crossmolina is off this weekend. A death in the Crossmolina camp.
Horrendous tragedy. Calling the game off is the right thing to do.
Ah no, sorry to read that. Obviously football takes a back seat.   Who passed away, hadn't heard anything.
The girlfriend of Conor Loftus I was told.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 03:14:33 PM
Dr Crokes 4th point shouldn't have been. How did the officials miss the kick out?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: omagh_gael on January 11, 2025, 03:16:04 PM
What a score from the canavans there. How did the ref miss that kerry kick out picked up inside the 20?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 11, 2025, 03:16:04 PMWhat a score from the canavans there. How did the ref miss that kerry kick out picked up inside the 20?

Cawley asleep at the wheel. Giving Crokes some handy frees too.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 11, 2025, 03:21:37 PM
Good game this very watchable. Canavans doing more than did in whole game v kilcoo already is ominous for Crokes.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: statto on January 11, 2025, 03:21:37 PMGood game this very watchable. Canavans doing more than did in whole game v kilcoo already is ominous for Crokes.

Darragh Canavan had been very quiet throughout the Ulster club campaign.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 03:25:32 PM
Cawley keeping Crokes in this.

2 soft frees and the glaring pickup miss.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 03:26:06 PM
Very soft free in for Crokes 6th point.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:28:05 PM
Micheal Burns one of the few standing up for Crokes. Will surely get a kerry recall.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 03:30:38 PM
Embarrassing from Micheal Burns there. Went down as if shot by a sniper.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 11, 2025, 03:32:57 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: statto on January 11, 2025, 03:21:37 PMGood game this very watchable. Canavans doing more than did in whole game v kilcoo already is ominous for Crokes.

Darragh Canavan had been very quiet throughout the Ulster club campaign.
For some reason Ruairi seems a better player in club games
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 03:33:24 PM
Going to be lots of 50m frees given, if referees performance is like this today..
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 11, 2025, 03:30:38 PMEmbarrassing from Micheal Burns there. Went down as if shot by a sniper.

Looney no better either. Canavan barely touched him.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ghost on January 11, 2025, 03:34:07 PM
Decent first half there. Darragh Canavan looking fairly sharp.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 03:35:21 PM
This referee is going to cost Errigal
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 03:36:15 PM
Half time Dr Crokes 0-7 Errigal Ciaran 0-8
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 11, 2025, 03:38:21 PM
Brendan Cawley rarely good with the current rules not worth thinking how bad he'll be with the new rules.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:38:50 PM
Errigal need from support cast in forwards. Peter Harte not really in the game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 11, 2025, 03:39:04 PM
I was never a fan of the rule changes but then I watch a game like this and it just annoys me more that we basically have to watch a new game this season.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: omagh_gael on January 11, 2025, 03:39:16 PM
Horrendous first half from Cawley, Micheal Burns must be getting one to one coaching from Aidan O'Mahony with that dive.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RoundBall on January 11, 2025, 03:40:02 PM
Tight performance this from Cawley, Errigal be 3 to 4 points further ahead if it wasn't for some terrible decisions/non decisions.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 11, 2025, 03:40:24 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 03:42:24 PM
Canavans could do with a wee bitta help.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: omagh_gael on January 11, 2025, 03:42:33 PM
In reference to the new rules, the worry is that currently we've refs missing a blatant pick up inside the 20 from a Crokes kick out. This is intercounty referee with full team around him. Imagine the chaos with club refs relying on non neutral club men running the line. Could be carnage.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Main Street on January 11, 2025, 03:46:17 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 11, 2025, 03:30:38 PMEmbarrassing from Micheal Burns there. Went down as if shot by a sniper.

Looney no better either. Canavan barely touched him.
Was that the Croke who fell clutching his head after a bit of a push?
There needs to be a revision on how refs officiate blatant simulation when the ref spots it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: befair on January 11, 2025, 03:47:08 PM
Sure, blame the ref.....
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 03:49:49 PM
TG4 first half stats

(https://i.ibb.co/N3czHXm/bandicam-2025-01-11-15-46-13-857.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Db0nSN8)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 03:53:12 PM
Is he normally this whistle-happy?
Both sides feeling it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 11, 2025, 03:54:05 PM
Two errigal men going for one ball should have been on attack burns gets equaliser could be big score.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on January 11, 2025, 03:57:06 PM
That was surely a free out to Errigal there hand on back
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 11, 2025, 03:57:28 PM
That is a fantastic finish from Darragh Canavan.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 03:59:00 PM
Some ball and some finish. Crokes too busy pushing and shoving after committing about three fouls before eventually conceding the free.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on January 11, 2025, 03:57:06 PMThat was surely a free out to Errigal there hand on back
Yes should have been free out instead of free in

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 04:00:04 PM
Errigal management need to sub Robinson off. He's gave away too much possession today.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 11, 2025, 04:00:49 PM
Going all Captain Obvious here but them canavans are some ballers
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:01:04 PM
EC doing some unreal work in the full back line. Must be infuriating to see Robinson giving it right back through nonsense.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 11, 2025, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 11, 2025, 03:39:04 PMI was never a fan of the rule changes but then I watch a game like this and it just annoys me more that we basically have to watch a new game this season.

Yes we only needed small changes not the amount we'll have. How many will be kept on for the championship I'd wonder, Not right to use the NFL as a Guinea pig competition when it's now connected to the championship and for some counties a more important competition for their development.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ghost on January 11, 2025, 04:02:45 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 11, 2025, 04:00:49 PMGoing all Captain Obvious here but them canavans are some ballers

Peter the great should be put out to stud around Ballygawley if that's what he's producing.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:02:58 PM
The Errigal no 15 will cost them the game with his decision making.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 11, 2025, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 11, 2025, 03:39:04 PMI was never a fan of the rule changes but then I watch a game like this and it just annoys me more that we basically have to watch a new game this season.

Yes we only needed small changes not the amount we'll have. How many will be kept on for the championship I'd wonder, Not right to use the NFL as a Guinea pig competition when it's now connected to the championship and for some counties a more important competition for their development.

That's not the big issue, it's that they're applicable to football at all grades from U14 up. If one NFL is shite there'll be no harm done to a small selection of footballers.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 04:04:31 PM
Ref's interpretation of overcarrying is all over the place.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
The experience of John Payne,Kieran O'Leary and Daithi Casey will win them the game. Cawley letting Crokes away their usual rugby tackling.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:05:39 PM
Only just started watching this. Errigal look busted.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:06:28 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:02:58 PMThe Errigal no 15 will cost them the game with his decision making.

See here. In the space of 5 minutes he went off the outside of the boot from 45, turned over a tasty looking attack by over carrying and then got dispossessed grim behind American football style.

Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:01:04 PMEC doing some unreal work in the full back line. Must be infuriating to see Robinson giving it right back through nonsense.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 04:04:31 PMRef's interpretation of overcarrying is all over the place.

Have to agree. Seems very inconsistent.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 11, 2025, 04:09:44 PM
Woeful decision there
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:09:49 PM
Thought that was a bit of a dive.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 04:09:54 PM
Burns diving again there for the free in
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 04:10:07 PM
Cawley, again.. shocking performance.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:10:21 PM
Spectacular dive from Burns there. He had a couple in the Munster final too.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on January 11, 2025, 04:10:26 PM
Burns knows when to go down.

Have a feeling Crokes with sneak this and Errigal will have a lot of regrets.

Errigal better team
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 04:10:59 PM
Clever from Burns there.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on January 11, 2025, 04:13:18 PM
That was a stupid shoulder there though no need
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: seafoid on January 11, 2025, 04:13:44 PM
The Canavans are great shooters.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 04:14:42 PM
Have to say. I'm enjoying it.played at good pace. Plenty of action and some great break away scored from EC.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:14:57 PM
Touch soft there but needless from Kelly right in front of the sticks. Himself and Oguz both a bit wild this half.

Quote from: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:12:23 PMCawley has won this game for Crokes.

Give over, he's been picky but unbiased. Same as CE in the Ulster semi, if EC lose this they'll only have themselves to blame.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:16:00 PM
You can just sense crokes going in front now.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:18:28 PM
Players in each team losing the head at the worst time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ghost on January 11, 2025, 04:19:23 PM
Crokes looking a wee bit fitter now
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:20:21 PM
Two bad wides. Kilcoo rued the same in ulster final.

Been coming.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:18:28 PMPlayers in each team losing the head at the worst time.

Twice now from McDonnell...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 11, 2025, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:20:21 PMTwo bad wides. Kilcoo rued the same in ulster final.

Been coming.
So loose on both kickouts too.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:22:42 PM
On ye boy ye.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on January 11, 2025, 04:23:10 PM
Could have been a 2 pointer to win it there, cracking finish all the same
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 11, 2025, 04:24:07 PM
Another big one from McCartan
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 04:24:16 PM
Tom Daley with what we thought was the winner...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 11, 2025, 04:24:21 PM
EC better team in that game. Crokes got some handy frees
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 04:24:39 PM
Some finish to level it there
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 04:25:14 PM
Result Dr Crokes 0-16 Errigal Ciaran 1-13. Extra time coming up.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on January 11, 2025, 04:25:27 PM
Cracking game and finish, last score shows where the 2 pointers are stupid, a score for few extra yards shouldn't win a game like that
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:25:41 PM
The absolute stones on that lad yet again.

The mistakes and brain farts in the last 10 mins have been mental. Keeper didn't move for White for that last free and White didn't look for him, just boomed it away. Oguz clattering into a man again to concede it in the first place.

EC lose it and they'll carry it to their graves. Better footballers throughout the pitch.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Main Street on January 11, 2025, 04:25:50 PM
Bualadh bos
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 11, 2025, 04:25:55 PM
Crokes pick up inside 13m line was a poor mistake from the ref to miss. Crokes scored directly from it.

Oguz gave away 4 or 5 pointless frees as well.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 11, 2025, 04:26:06 PM
1st game of 2025 and won't be many better
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:28:19 PM
Crokes had massive impact from the old heads O'Leary and Casey on the bench. Not many outside Canavan brothers scoring for Errigal. Errigal need to wiser with tackling as Cawley buying all the dives.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 03,05,08 on January 11, 2025, 04:29:13 PM
In my opinion the ref has been brutal to errigal
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 11, 2025, 04:30:20 PM
I know the ref will always get some grief but feck me.

Surely EC aren't helping themselves with obvious hands in the back and then a stupid late hit.

All soft but they are being won by Crokes. EC should have had more but Crokes are getting easy tap overs.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:30:41 PM
What did O'Leary do? He rumbles about the place and little else.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on January 11, 2025, 04:32:08 PM
Great game, thought Crokes looked the more likely winners as the game wore on there. Some strike from McCartan to save the day.  Peter Harte needs to get the finger out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 04:33:57 PM
EC need to capitalise on this ref and start buying frees. Canavans well capable of doing that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 04:37:03 PM
60 minutes stats.

(https://i.ibb.co/P4HSf5Q/Screenshot-20250111-163539-2.png) (https://ibb.co/rMrW1Zs)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 11, 2025, 04:30:20 PMAll soft but they are being won by Crokes. EC should have had more but Crokes are getting easy tap overs.

Because they're committing them around the 21 and Crokes aren't? Ruairi Canavan kicked a score on the advantage that would have been a tap over free when White clattered Harte from behind.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:39:21 PM
Tap in goal for Ruairi there if Darragh gives him it. Another one they could live to regret. Prob the ref's fault, mind.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 11, 2025, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on January 11, 2025, 04:29:13 PMIn my opinion the ref has been brutal to errigal

Would say he has been slightly harder on them but they have been making it easy with the clear pushes etc.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:46:36 PM
Oguz is one of these players that either does something spectacular or ridiculous.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 04:47:35 PM
Another cawley terrible decision.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 04:47:52 PM
Soft free there. Wasn't much in it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 04:47:58 PM
How the fcuk was that a free in?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 11, 2025, 04:48:19 PM
Should that have been a free out for charging?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:46:36 PMOguz is one of these players that either does something spectacular or ridiculous.

Didn't get called for overcarrying - clear Crokes bias from Cawley.

Snide jokes aside, that might be the first positive thing Oguz has done since the start of the second half.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on January 11, 2025, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:46:36 PMOguz is one of these players that either does something spectacular or ridiculous.

His last point more on the spectacular side.
Close game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 04:50:26 PM
This has been Escape to Victory level of refereeing so far.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 04:50:57 PM
Great game. Tempo still good for this stage of extra time. Will be very tough on whoever loses.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 04:51:35 PM
Half time in extra time. Dr Crokes 0-18 Errigal Ciaran 1-15
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:52:00 PM
Lads, seriously, the whining about the ref is embarrassing. Have a word with yourselves.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: mrdeeds on January 11, 2025, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 11, 2025, 04:48:19 PMShould that have been a free out for charging?

Exactly and very obvious. Ref had perfect view. It's bad when you feel a Tryone team hard done by.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 04:54:02 PM
Turkey dinners taking a toll now.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 04:54:09 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:52:00 PMLads, seriously, the whining about the ref is embarrassing. Have a word with yourselves.

What game are you watching? He's been completely biased towards Dr. Crokes so far. Should he not be called out?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:52:00 PMLads, seriously, the whining about the ref is embarrassing. Have a word with yourselves.

Are you seriously suggesting he hasn't been very harsh on EC? That last free especially, and buying Burns' swan dives?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:55:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 04:46:36 PMOguz is one of these players that either does something spectacular or ridiculous.

He the man now.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 11, 2025, 04:55:24 PM
Keep oguz away from his own goal and towards the opposition lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 11, 2025, 04:55:34 PM
Great goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: seafoid on January 11, 2025, 04:55:50 PM
Super goal for EC
They are the better team
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:57:14 PM
The constant whining is pathetic. Was the same absolute w**k from Clann Eireann ones after the Ulster semi.

Oguz clear overcarrying for his fisted point and nothing done. Refs can be shite without being biased.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 04:57:32 PM
Brian Looney my MOTM gone off. Put in a serious shift for Crokes.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: straightred on January 11, 2025, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:57:14 PMThe constant whining is pathetic. Was the same absolute w**k from Clann Eireann ones after the Ulster semi.

Oguz clear overcarrying for his fisted point and nothing done. Refs can be shite without being biased.

I've no dog in this fight but I'd conservatively say that the ref has been worth 3 points to crokes. 2 very good teams but Eirigal are just that little bit better
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 11, 2025, 05:00:54 PM
Party over now you'd think.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PM
Christ, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PMChrist, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.
I don't think you needed much turning 😂
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 11, 2025, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 04:52:00 PMLads, seriously, the whining about the ref is embarrassing. Have a word with yourselves.
Incredible from Errigal after coming through the best most competitive county championship in Ireland 😀
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 05:05:56 PM
Full time after extra time.  Dr Crokes 1-18 Errigal Ciaran 2-18.  Goal in added time was the only score for Dr Crokes in 2nd half of extra time.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 05:06:13 PM
Errigal undone by the high ball again
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 11, 2025, 05:06:34 PM
Never let that clown cawley cross the white line ever again.

EC the better team.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PMChrist, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.

If the referee did it right there would be no whining.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 05:07:21 PM
Terrific, deserved win for Errigal. Definitely the better team.

Not sure McGinley will be overly happy with some of the decision making in the second half.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 11, 2025, 05:07:43 PM
A very enjoyable game, well done EC.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 11, 2025, 05:07:56 PM
Well played EC. Deserved winners.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 05:07:59 PM
Errigal far better team and well deserved winners.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 05:08:58 PM
G the amount of crying about the refs, worse that American football supporters. Yes Crawley not good and shafted us a few times, but it's about time you took up referring if u think you can do any better, and going by comments on here, you can.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 05:11:17 PM
People need to stop whining about people whining about the ref. There are more posts whining about whining that the original whining. Now I'm whining.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: befair on January 11, 2025, 05:11:50 PM
Errigal better team, deserved it, first goal was a classic. But agree, stop whining about the ref.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: sligoman on January 11, 2025, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PMChrist, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.

I'm a neutral. Up there with one of the most one sided refereeing displays I've witnessed. Frees being given at one end completely ignored at the other end all game. Errigal did very well to keep their heads during that.

This is the type of refereeing performance that should be scrutinized at HQ when big matches are being handed out.

Best of luck to Coolera today.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RoundBall on January 11, 2025, 05:13:06 PM
Fair play Errigal, bait ref and all! When you come out of Ulster you almost take it for granted you won't get fair play with some of the bias nonsense goes on from various angles including the media as well as the men in the middle. Makes winning games that bit sweeter.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 05:11:17 PMPeople need to stop whining about people whining about the ref. There are more posts whining about whining that the original whining. Now I'm whining.

You've always been a whine though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 11, 2025, 05:13:25 PM
Another Ulster team just one win away from  winning the All Ireland.  As for the referee even before today he's among the worst refs out there and why does he keep getting high profile games? 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 05:13:34 PM
Here.go out and try it,there hundreds of posters on this forum, most bitching about the ref, but only 1 man on here, am aware of, who has the actually balls to be a referee
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: NotedObserver on January 11, 2025, 05:13:56 PM
There's more complaining about the whining than complaining about the ref  :)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Main Street on January 11, 2025, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PMChrist, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.
This is just par for the course whenever Tyrone (club/county) are playing, a discussion thread whinge-fest against the ref for the perceived out and out bias against their angelic players. The paranoia/victimhood is dna embedded.
Probably will take the full 4 generations to clean it out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on January 11, 2025, 05:15:26 PM
Is there many at this second match? Can't see the far side
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 05:16:36 PM
Great game. Think EC edged it throughout the game and were more direct in their attack. Some effort by both teams.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Ghost on January 11, 2025, 05:16:58 PM
Is the sub Dermot Morrow that came on for EC the same boy used to play for Kilrea?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 11, 2025, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: Ghost on January 11, 2025, 05:16:58 PMIs the sub Dermot Morrow that came on for EC the same boy used to play for Kilrea?
Yes I believe so
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 05:18:49 PM
He is indeed, had ask his mother 1 day how he ended up in Enemy terrority lol.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 05:18:57 PM
Guess what, some of the main culprits yapping about Cawley dismissed Armagh/CE posters' complaints about the ref after the Ulster semi out of hand.

Ulster football is absolutely the worst for this shite, and by a distance.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:24:04 PM
Coolera goalie will be well suited to the new rules anyway
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 11, 2025, 05:25:33 PM
Ref aside... those Canavan boys are pure class. Errigal average enough team taken to a whole other level by Darragh and Ruairi
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on January 11, 2025, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 05:13:34 PMHere.go out and try it,there hundreds of posters on this forum, most bitching about the ref, but only 1 man on here, am aware of, who has the actually balls to be a referee
Agreed. Referees should never be criticised for anything and we should all have a shrine and pray to them each morning. We're allowed to call out refs if they are constantly giving soft frees or missing kickouts being picked up inside the 20m line
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on January 11, 2025, 05:28:38 PM
Quote from: Ghost on January 11, 2025, 05:16:58 PMIs the sub Dermot Morrow that came on for EC the same boy used to play for Kilrea?
Yeah same one
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: APM on January 11, 2025, 05:28:48 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:24:04 PMCoolera goalie will be well suited to the new rules anyway

Cuala supporters hard work?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: bennydorano on January 11, 2025, 05:29:58 PM
Impressive win for Errigal, first match they beat a team with the full compliment of players for the full game since the Cargin game? Some neck on yis yapping about refs. Ref yapping is very noticeably worse from Ulster posters - Tyrone, Armagh,  Derry fill the podium in that order too- but we do outnumber the other provinces greatly.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: PMG1 on January 11, 2025, 05:32:06 PM
Canavans won't get the same room in the final with Cuala playing 15 back
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 05:33:09 PM
Half time Cuala 0-6  Coolera Strandhill 0-2.  Sligo champions great shooting from the Connacht final has left them today
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 11, 2025, 05:38:55 PM
Geeat first match has me thinking why do we need new rules.
First half of the 2nd game has me thinking can any rules make this any better?
2 bad misses by Murphy.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Dire Ear on January 11, 2025, 05:53:54 PM
Quote from: sligoman on January 11, 2025, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PMChrist, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.

I'm a neutral. Up there with one of the most one sided refereeing displays I've witnessed. Frees being given at one end completely ignored at the other end all game. Errigal did very well to keep their heads during that.

This is the type of refereeing performance that should be scrutinized at HQ when big matches are being handed out.

Best of luck to Coolera today.

100%
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: befair on January 11, 2025, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 11, 2025, 05:38:55 PMGeeat first match has me thinking why do we need new rules.
First half of the 2nd game has me thinking can any rules make this any better?
2 bad misses by Murphy.
Have you been at any club games? 15 men behind the ball, endless recycling around the 45. Something had to be done
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 05:57:07 PM
Cuala kicking on now and hard to see a way back for the Sligo/Connacht champions.  0-10 to 0-3  40 minutes played.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 03,05,08 on January 11, 2025, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 05:57:07 PMCuala kicking on now and hard to see a way back for the Sligo/Connacht champions.  0-10 to 0-3  40 minutes played.

They could be back in it yet
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 11, 2025, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: befair on January 11, 2025, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 11, 2025, 05:38:55 PMGeeat first match has me thinking why do we need new rules.
First half of the 2nd game has me thinking can any rules make this any better?
2 bad misses by Murphy.
Have you been at any club games? 15 men behind the ball, endless recycling around the 45. Something had to be done

Small tweaks is all that was needed to adjust that.  Wholesale changes to give us a different game is not what was needed.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on January 11, 2025, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 05:57:07 PMCuala kicking on now and hard to see a way back for the Sligo/Connacht champions.  0-10 to 0-3  40 minutes played.

They could be back in it yet

Three great points from distance, more like their form from the Connacht final.  0-10 to 0-6 after 45 minutes.   

Another two points for Coolera/Strandhil  0-10 to 0-8 game very much on now.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 11, 2025, 06:05:10 PM
Coolera on a bit of a roll now!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 11, 2025, 06:05:22 PM
Coolera coming back strongly. Cuala don't have a strong bench.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: seafoid on January 11, 2025, 06:05:44 PM
Cuala wides and coolera accuracy and 2 points in it
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 11, 2025, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 11, 2025, 06:05:44 PMCuala wides and coolera accuracy and 2 points in it

The very opposite of the 1st half.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: seafoid on January 11, 2025, 06:08:52 PM
10 minutes since Cuala scored.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 06:11:10 PM
Cuala stop the rot with that score.  0-11 to 0-8 they lead with 7 minutes of normal time left.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 06:12:33 PM
G, stupid black card to give away there.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 06:20:24 PM
Con O,'Callaghan, strong down the back straight.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 11, 2025, 06:22:42 PM
Cuala never in any real jeopardy throughout.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 06:22:51 PM
Result Cuala 0-14 Coolera Strandhill 0-9. 





Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: downtothecore on January 11, 2025, 06:26:59 PM
CUllA v ERRIGAL AI Final.
ERRIGAL to win it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 11, 2025, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on January 11, 2025, 06:22:42 PMCuala never in any real jeopardy throughout.
they would have been nervous when it went to 10-8 I would say, generally thought standard of second game well off the first errigals to lose.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 11, 2025, 06:30:33 PM
Coolera Strandhill
Quote from: OakLeaf on January 11, 2025, 06:22:42 PMCuala never in any real jeopardy throughout.
It was very much in jeopardy at 0-10 to 0-8 and all the momentum with Coolera Strandhill.  Cuala closed the game out well in the end by exploiting the Sligo champions on the counter attack. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 06:33:16 PM
Don't know, Cuala definitely not as strong as Crokes(Dublin) previously, but they are a Dublin club team, now making it 3 out 4yrs, a Dublin team getting to a final and they in Croke park. Errigal look OK, but are boosted by 2 exceptional players. Cuala more manafactured and not shooting the lights out either. Be a tight game, hard to call to be honest.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 11, 2025, 06:35:22 PM


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Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 11, 2025, 06:36:34 PM
Final is a 50/50 game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: grounded on January 11, 2025, 06:49:04 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 11, 2025, 05:38:55 PMGeeat first match has me thinking why do we need new rules.
First half of the 2nd game has me thinking can any rules make this any better?
2 bad misses by Murphy.

True. Unfortunately for every clinker of a game like the first one, there are unfortunately far more of the second.
   I thoroughly enjoyed that EC-Crokes game. EC I thought were well deserved winners. All those tight wins in Ulster count for something come semi finals.
   Of course they have the class of the Canavans to rely on. They were quiet the last day vs Kilcoo but on fire today.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 11, 2025, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: befair on January 11, 2025, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 11, 2025, 05:38:55 PMGeeat first match has me thinking why do we need new rules.
First half of the 2nd game has me thinking can any rules make this any better?
2 bad misses by Murphy.
Have you been at any club games? 15 men behind the ball, endless recycling around the 45. Something had to be done
That'll still happend
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: God14 on January 11, 2025, 08:39:43 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 11, 2025, 06:36:34 PMFinal is a 50/50 game.

Cormac Quinn missing will be a blow. There's no way he is back in time for next week
Ruairi was hobbling badly at the end as well. Could be a nervous week for EC.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RandyDupree on January 11, 2025, 08:42:03 PM
Dr crokes threw the game away today in normal time. Kicked the ball away three times in injury time, two of which were unforgivable.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2025, 08:47:44 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 11, 2025, 08:39:43 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 11, 2025, 06:36:34 PMFinal is a 50/50 game.

Cormac Quinn missing will be a blow. There's no way he is back in time for next week
Ruairi was hobbling badly at the end as well. Could be a nervous week for EC.

Both cramp?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 08:49:50 PM
Canavan's looked like cramp for sure.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2025, 08:57:30 PM
Yeah I think they both looked like cramp.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gold on January 11, 2025, 09:18:17 PM
Some game and win for Errigal.

No skin in the game and have a strong dislike of Tyrone

Haven't read back for other views but f**k me that ref gave some of the most bizarre frees against Errigal. There were laughable dives given as free ins and an overcarry on an EC player who was pushed in the back and had possession for 1 step max....literally BIZARRE

Canavans.....f**k ME......GLORIOUS to watch

That boy Oguz either does the ridiculous or the sublime

Crokes had no pattern and were disappointing and lucky not to be beat by 10 (and may have been but for the ref acting bizarrely). Disappointing from them and how could the Gooch at 41 not be fit to play there for at least extra time. His ball winning and composure would've won it
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh4sam2024 on January 11, 2025, 09:37:32 PM
While I appreciate that refs are unpaid volunteers, today's performance was the poorest I've seen from at a club intercounty level in years.  If Errigal had lost that there would've been some angst from them and rightly so. With a more impartial man in the middle EC would have won by pulling up in normal time. They were better by a distance but a litany of poor calls benefitted Crokes. The lack of consistency was most bizarre. Crokes got frees literally for falling over and began to play on it. In the 2nd half Harte was dragged to the floor and no free? As for the over-carrying calls?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 03,05,08 on January 11, 2025, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 11, 2025, 09:18:17 PMSome game and win for Errigal.

No skin in the game and have a strong dislike of Tyrone

Haven't read back for other views but f**k me that ref gave some of the most bizarre frees against Errigal. There were laughable dives given as free ins and an overcarry on an EC player who was pushed in the back and had possession for 1 step max....literally BIZARRE

Canavans.....f**k ME......GLORIOUS to watch

That boy Oguz either does the ridiculous or the sublime

Crokes had no pattern and were disappointing and lucky not to be beat by 10 (and may have been but for the ref acting bizarrely). Disappointing from them and how could the Gooch at 41 not be fit to play there for at least extra time. His ball winning and composure would've won it

Was the gooch even on the panel? I thought he was retired for last 3-4 years
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gold on January 11, 2025, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on January 11, 2025, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 11, 2025, 09:18:17 PMSome game and win for Errigal.

No skin in the game and have a strong dislike of Tyrone

Haven't read back for other views but f**k me that ref gave some of the most bizarre frees against Errigal. There were laughable dives given as free ins and an overcarry on an EC player who was pushed in the back and had possession for 1 step max....literally BIZARRE

Canavans.....f**k ME......GLORIOUS to watch

That boy Oguz either does the ridiculous or the sublime

Crokes had no pattern and were disappointing and lucky not to be beat by 10 (and may have been but for the ref acting bizarrely). Disappointing from them and how could the Gooch at 41 not be fit to play there for at least extra time. His ball winning and composure would've won it

Was the gooch even on the panel? I thought he was retired for last 3-4 years

No he wasn't...I'm just saying the Crokes were poor up front, like they'd no Canavan or Gooch-like Star Power.

Appreciate he wasn't on the panel but it must have rankled him watching his clubmates slap shots wide and up in the air (other than the umpteen tap over frees they scored from).

Burns tried his balls off but they'd no Con or Clifford or Canavan type ballers
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 11, 2025, 10:42:25 PM
What did Gavin white do at end, was only half watching. Bloody phones
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on January 11, 2025, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 11, 2025, 08:39:43 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 11, 2025, 06:36:34 PMFinal is a 50/50 game.

Cormac Quinn missing will be a blow. There's no way he is back in time for next week
Ruairi was hobbling badly at the end as well. Could be a nervous week for EC.
Would say he should be fine looked to have just pulled up so should be alright for 8 days time. Don't think it was anything to do with his previous injury but could be wrong
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 11, 2025, 10:42:25 PMWhat did Gavin white do at end, was only half watching. Bloody phones

End of normal time with about 30 seconds left he booted a free long needlessly. Errigal did a great job pressuring everyone in fairness but there had to be a run for a short and then give it back to him.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: KOTS3 on January 11, 2025, 11:54:19 PM
Am a neutral but having watched that today, serious questions should be raised regarding Brendan Cawley's performance.

It is one of the first times I've thought in the moment that a referee could have a personal interest/ulterior motive for the outcome of a game. It appeared to me he was doing everything in his power to keep crokes in the game for as long as possible, in particular the free before half time when a EC man was pushed in the back after collecting the ball and then blown for over carrying.

As mentioned here EC did well to keep their heads and come out the right side of it, but having reviewed some of the clips from the game and the stats that followed it was very poor.


It's one thing for a ref to be poor to both teams, but that was another level.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 12, 2025, 12:22:37 AM
Crawley is not great, he reffed us in a few league games and I just got used to expecting a bad day.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Easttyrone23 on January 12, 2025, 12:26:24 AM
Even the referees can't stop Ulster teams winning every all Ireland title. Maybe these new rules will make the southern teams more competitive.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2025, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2025, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 11, 2025, 10:42:25 PMWhat did Gavin white do at end, was only half watching. Bloody phones

End of normal time with about 30 seconds left he booted a free long needlessly. Errigal did a great job pressuring everyone in fairness but there had to be a run for a short and then give it back to him.

Cheers chap
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DeasBéalFeirste on January 12, 2025, 07:40:07 AM
Quote from: PMG1 on January 11, 2025, 05:32:06 PMCanavans won't get the same room in the final with Cuala playing 15 back

Plus they have Mick Fitzsimmons to man-mark Darragh Canavan. Errigal Ciaran have no one to mark Con O'Callaghan, who could run riot in Croke Park. Errigal's semi-final win was more impressive but that means very little.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DeasBéalFeirste on January 12, 2025, 07:45:45 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 11, 2025, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 11, 2025, 05:02:27 PMChrist, the whinging about the ref would turn any neutral against an Ulster team.
This is just par for the course whenever Tyrone (club/county) are playing, a discussion thread whinge-fest against the ref for the perceived out and out bias against their angelic players. The paranoia/victimhood is dna embedded.
Probably will take the full 4 generations to clean it out.

Very strange way to talk about other people from the same tiny country. I see it a lot on here, and I know the narcissism of small differences is especially prevalent in sport, but it's baffling and downright weird. Some of you are very emotional.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PM
Fair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 12, 2025, 02:29:18 PM
Too many wides for the boys from Muff so far.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 12, 2025, 02:41:43 PM
Half time in the Junior All Ireland semi final



Kilmurry (Cork) 1-3 Naomh Padraig, Muff (Donegal) 0-4

Free with the last kick of the game levels it. Extra time to be played  1-7 to 0-10.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2025, 03:05:27 PM
Grainnes Gap in Muff was closed tother day, I wonder has this affected them in some way
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 12, 2025, 03:12:30 PM
All square at the minute. 9 to 1-6
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 12, 2025, 03:23:20 PM
Muff game going into extra time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2025, 03:05:27 PMGrainnes Gap in Muff was closed tother day, I wonder has this affected them in some way

That's the shortcut to Cockhill
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 12, 2025, 04:00:36 PM
Penalty for Muff correct call? Red card also. They lead 1-13 to 2-9 with a few minutes to go

Level with a free. Kilmurry 2-10 Naomh Padraig, Muff 1-13.  Penalty shootout to find a winner.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 12, 2025, 04:03:50 PM
Just about the right call I think.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 12, 2025, 04:00:36 PMPenalty for Muff correct call? Red card also. They lead 1-13 to 2-9 with a few minutes to go

Level with a free.

Don't think it was a penalty, free in. Nor was the equalising point a foul either
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 12, 2025, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 12, 2025, 04:00:36 PMPenalty for Muff correct call? Red card also. They lead 1-13 to 2-9 with a few minutes to go

Level with a free.

On balance yes. Hard to tell if it was inside or not but aside from that the Kilmurry defender touched the ball on the ground inside the wee square, which is a penalty. Shocker of a decision for the equalising free!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!

No need to be sorry.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 12, 2025, 04:08:25 PM
Penalty call was a tight one but was never a foul for the leveller.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 12, 2025, 04:17:49 PM
Muff win the penalty shootout! Some dreadful penalties taken.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 12, 2025, 04:19:14 PM
Fair play to Muff. It looked like the wheels had come off in the first 5 minutes of extra time. Fought back well.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 12, 2025, 04:17:49 PMMuff win the penalty shootout! Some dreadful penalties taken.

Heavy legs, so much on the line. Great to see Muff in the final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!

No need to be sorry.
Ok, I'm not really sorry.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!

No need to be sorry.
Ok, I'm not really sorry.

😁
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 12, 2025, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 12, 2025, 04:00:36 PMPenalty for Muff correct call? Red card also. They lead 1-13 to 2-9 with a few minutes to go

Level with a free.

Don't think it was a penalty, free in. Nor was the equalising point a foul either

Nah it was, he was smacked from behind.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2025, 04:32:50 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2025, 03:05:27 PMGrainnes Gap in Muff was closed tother day, I wonder has this affected them in some way

That's the shortcut to Cockhill

So I've heard

Up the Muff!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 12, 2025, 04:36:06 PM
Another Ulster sweep on the way?...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on January 12, 2025, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!
What were your thoughts on the Ulster final out of interest? Canavans barely got a sniff and the others were capable of standing up. It's definitely not just the Canavans
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on January 12, 2025, 05:07:26 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 12, 2025, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!
What were your thoughts on the Ulster final out of interest? Canavans barely got a sniff and the others were capable of standing up. It's definitely not just the Canavans

A fine point (McCartan? was needed to equalise in normal time, otherwise Crokes would have been in the final.
I was thinking that under the new rules that "point" would have been two and they would have won. This two point thing will reduce the impact of goals. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 12, 2025, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 12, 2025, 04:17:49 PMMuff win the penalty shootout! Some dreadful penalties taken.

Heavy legs, so much on the line. Great to see Muff in the final.

There'll be some buzz around Derry City this week  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 12, 2025, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 12, 2025, 04:17:49 PMMuff win the penalty shootout! Some dreadful penalties taken.

Heavy legs, so much on the line. Great to see Muff in the final.

There'll be some buzz around Derry City this week  ;D

Oh yes!! What a day for the great parish of Derry / Muff / Iskaheen
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 12, 2025, 06:10:21 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 12, 2025, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 12, 2025, 04:17:49 PMMuff win the penalty shootout! Some dreadful penalties taken.

Heavy legs, so much on the line. Great to see Muff in the final.

There'll be some buzz around Derry City this week  ;D

Finally, a sexual innuendo!  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 12, 2025, 06:42:28 PM
Ulster teams won all three club All-Ireland titles last year just three wins away from history repeating itself this January.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 12, 2025, 04:36:06 PMAnother Ulster sweep on the way?...
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 12, 2025, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on January 12, 2025, 01:41:33 PMFair play Errigal. Thought they were fairly disciplined throughout and, yes, a good few decisions didn't go their way but that happens sometimes and they didn't let it knock their focus. Radio Kerry were anticipating a UFC team coming down from the North. I love those guys.

EC are a slick outfit. Solid at the back, powerful midfield, and Harte and the Canavans in the forward unit. Should be a brilliant final

Sorry, would strongly disagree with that. Harte was anonymous again yesterday. Goes awol for long periods and really should be offering his club more at that level.
The two Canavans were exceptional yesterday, precocious talent, they are the errigal forward line. Best thing the other 4 can do is stay out of their way!
What were your thoughts on the Ulster final out of interest? Canavans barely got a sniff and the others were capable of standing up. It's definitely not just the Canavans

Kilcoo did well to limit the two boys but I think Dara still managed to have a hand in 1-1 out of a final tally of 1-8 was it? Have seen errigal a couple of times in Tyrone and then a few more in Ulster and my opinion is still unchanged, Petey Harte doesn't do anywhere near enough for them. I think they are confused about his best position and where exactly to play him. He's due a big one, maybe saving it for Croke Park!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Silver hill on January 12, 2025, 08:30:53 PM
Errigal Ciaran scorers: Joe Oguz 1-0, Thomas Canavan 0-3 (0-3f), Peter Og McCartan 0-2, Darragh Canavan 0-1, Ciaran Quinn 0-1, Peter Harte 0-1.

Tommy C 3 point from frees, rest of the scores from, corner,half back and mid field, apart from 1 from Peter Harte.

1-13 out of 2-18 from the 2 boys is also an unreal return from just 2 players. Cuala will believe that if they curtail the Canavans they've a great chance. Easier said than done though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tiempo on January 12, 2025, 09:14:32 PM
Pete Harte is calmness personified on the ball, might not be haring around like a young one but plenty goes through him, finds his moments to support defence and link the middle third to attack, has played nearly every position now for Errigal and Tyrone in big championship games, I don't think anyone knows his best position any more than they ever did, it's probably been different over the years depending on his aerobic capacity and what the various teams needed from him, capable of a score and a big moment too, was his crossfield ball that set the move for the equalising score going, would be some cherry on top of a glittering career to bag this next Sunday
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on January 12, 2025, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 12, 2025, 09:14:32 PMPete Harte is calmness personified on the ball, might not be haring around like a young one but plenty goes through him, finds his moments to support defence and link the middle third to attack, has played nearly every position now for Errigal and Tyrone in big championship games, I don't think anyone knows his best position any more than they ever did, it's probably been different over the years depending on his aerobic capacity and what the various teams needed from him, capable of a score and a big moment too, was his crossfield ball that set the move for the equalising score going, would be some cherry on top of a glittering career to bag this next Sunday
He might not be there in the final third as much as people have come to expect but I'd say this has been his best year in terms of the defensive side. The amount of turnovers he's won this year and intensity in the tackle is something that was probably missing for a few years. Still able to pick out the right option as we seen against Killyclogher with the last point, last 10 minutes of Eunans game he also stood up and yesterday kept his head and played it to McCartan. Still due a big performance but he's done his part
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 13, 2025, 08:31:33 AM
Is there any refixed date for the Crossmolina v Ballinderry game? (Awful circumstances RIP)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 13, 2025, 08:53:10 AM
Quote from: statto on January 13, 2025, 08:31:33 AMIs there any refixed date for the Crossmolina v Ballinderry game? (Awful circumstances RIP)
Read it was going to be this weekend.

Obviously football will be last thing on anyones mind down there, absolutely horrible circumstances.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 13, 2025, 09:17:22 AM
Poor girl is from our County.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 13, 2025, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: statto on January 13, 2025, 08:31:33 AMIs there any refixed date for the Crossmolina v Ballinderry game? (Awful circumstances RIP)

You'd imagine they'll put it along with the Junior Final on the 25th.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 13, 2025, 09:48:44 AM
Quote from: clarshack on January 13, 2025, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: statto on January 13, 2025, 08:31:33 AMIs there any refixed date for the Crossmolina v Ballinderry game? (Awful circumstances RIP)

You'd imagine they'll put it along with the Junior Final on the 25th.
Should push the senior one too. Week isnt enough time
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shamrocker12 on January 13, 2025, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: statto on January 13, 2025, 08:31:33 AMIs there any refixed date for the Crossmolina v Ballinderry game? (Awful circumstances RIP)

We were hearing potentially Sunday 26th January, was talk of 25th but derry and mayo actually play their opening league games that evening so that may rule that out. There's also talk of this Saturday but I would personally feel that's far too soon for Crossmolina.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2025, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 13, 2025, 09:48:44 AM
Quote from: clarshack on January 13, 2025, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: statto on January 13, 2025, 08:31:33 AMIs there any refixed date for the Crossmolina v Ballinderry game? (Awful circumstances RIP)

You'd imagine they'll put it along with the Junior Final on the 25th.
Should push the senior one too. Week isnt enough time

Because both teams get equal rest I don't think that will move
I know errigal had 20 minutes et
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 13, 2025, 11:38:42 AM
Lads a week off is plenty if their S&C has any focus on the C. That includes resting and managing it.
I think that in the GAA we over-egg this 2 games in a week when the managers had them training and slogging 5+ days a week for years.

It'll be a good game hopefully, but I fancy Cuala. V Naas the focus was on CON and his briother stepped up. Plus they have some great lads around half-back and half-forward that will fly on the good ground in Croker.

Not saying EC are slouches btw! Just there are some lads I would not have been familiar with who can really run. On the flip EC have two amazing talents that can destroy teams and Cuala only have 1 Mick Fitz to mind them.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 03,05,08 on January 13, 2025, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 13, 2025, 11:38:42 AMLads a week off is plenty if their S&C has any focus on the C. That includes resting and managing it.
I think that in the GAA we over-egg this 2 games in a week when the managers had them training and slogging 5+ days a week for years.

It'll be a good game hopefully, but I fancy Cuala. V Naas the focus was on CON and his briother stepped up. Plus they have some great lads around half-back and half-forward that will fly on the good ground in Croker.

Not saying EC are slouches btw! Just there are some lads I would not have been familiar with who can really run. On the flip EC have two amazing talents that can destroy teams and Cuala only have 1 Mick Fitz to mind them.



Cuala's speed on the break was impressive against strandhill.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 13, 2025, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 13, 2025, 11:38:42 AMLads a week off is plenty if their S&C has any focus on the C. That includes resting and managing it.
I think that in the GAA we over-egg this 2 games in a week when the managers had them training and slogging 5+ days a week for years.

It'll be a good game hopefully, but I fancy Cuala. V Naas the focus was on CON and his briother stepped up. Plus they have some great lads around half-back and half-forward that will fly on the good ground in Croker.

Not saying EC are slouches btw! Just there are some lads I would not have been familiar with who can really run. On the flip EC have two amazing talents that can destroy teams and Cuala only have 1 Mick Fitz to mind them.


Even to enjoy the build up and stuff I think 2 weeks would be better, I know they've had a lot of big days out already but an All Ireland final is a different level of anticipation. Not the end of the world obviously.

2 very good sides at a similar level so should be a cracker of a final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: seafoid on January 13, 2025, 01:06:43 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 13, 2025, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 13, 2025, 11:38:42 AMLads a week off is plenty if their S&C has any focus on the C. That includes resting and managing it.
I think that in the GAA we over-egg this 2 games in a week when the managers had them training and slogging 5+ days a week for years.

It'll be a good game hopefully, but I fancy Cuala. V Naas the focus was on CON and his briother stepped up. Plus they have some great lads around half-back and half-forward that will fly on the good ground in Croker.

Not saying EC are slouches btw! Just there are some lads I would not have been familiar with who can really run. On the flip EC have two amazing talents that can destroy teams and Cuala only have 1 Mick Fitz to mind them.


Even to enjoy the build up and stuff I think 2 weeks would be better, I know they've had a lot of big days out already but an All Ireland final is a different level of anticipation. Not the end of the world obviously.

2 very good sides at a similar level so should be a cracker of a final.
It was suppose to be a 2 week break. The semis were pushed back a week because of the weather.  .
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2025, 02:02:43 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 13, 2025, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 13, 2025, 11:38:42 AMLads a week off is plenty if their S&C has any focus on the C. That includes resting and managing it.
I think that in the GAA we over-egg this 2 games in a week when the managers had them training and slogging 5+ days a week for years.

It'll be a good game hopefully, but I fancy Cuala. V Naas the focus was on CON and his briother stepped up. Plus they have some great lads around half-back and half-forward that will fly on the good ground in Croker.

Not saying EC are slouches btw! Just there are some lads I would not have been familiar with who can really run. On the flip EC have two amazing talents that can destroy teams and Cuala only have 1 Mick Fitz to mind them.


Even to enjoy the build up and stuff I think 2 weeks would be better, I know they've had a lot of big days out already but an All Ireland final is a different level of anticipation. Not the end of the world obviously.

2 very good sides at a similar level so should be a cracker of a final.

But the cost of those extra weeks training would cripple the clubs...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 13, 2025, 06:19:34 PM
The odds for Sunday's Senior football final (throw in 3:40pm)   Errigal Ciaran 8/11 Cuala 6/5  Draw after 60 minutes 11/2

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2025, 06:34:07 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 13, 2025, 06:19:34 PMThe odds for Sunday's Senior football final (throw in 3:40pm)   Errigal Ciaran 8/11 Cuala 6/5  Draw after 60 minutes 11/2



Draws a good bet
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 13, 2025, 06:41:32 PM
How do the mexicans feel about Ulster possibly winning another 2x AI titles this year?

All-Ireland Senior Football Championship - Armagh

All-Ireland Under 20s - Tyrone

All-Ireland Minor - Derry

Tailteann Cup - Down

National League Division One - Derry

National League Division Two - Donegal

All-Ireland Senior Club - Glen (Derry)

All-Ireland Intermediate Club - St Patrick's (Armagh)

All-Ireland Junior Club - Arva (Cavan)

Sigerson Cup - Ulster University

Hogan Cup - Omagh CBS (Tyrone)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 13, 2025, 06:52:46 PM
Are they over the moon in Fermanagh and Monaghan??
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 13, 2025, 07:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2025, 06:34:07 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 13, 2025, 06:19:34 PMThe odds for Sunday's Senior football final (throw in 3:40pm)   Errigal Ciaran 8/11 Cuala 6/5  Draw after 60 minutes 11/2



Draws a good bet
Agreed.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 13, 2025, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 13, 2025, 06:41:32 PMHow do the mexicans feel about Ulster possibly winning another 2x AI titles this year?

All-Ireland Senior Football Championship - Armagh

All-Ireland Under 20s - Tyrone

All-Ireland Minor - Derry

Tailteann Cup - Down

National League Division One - Derry

National League Division Two - Donegal

All-Ireland Senior Club - Glen (Derry)

All-Ireland Intermediate Club - St Patrick's (Armagh)

All-Ireland Junior Club - Arva (Cavan)

Sigerson Cup - Ulster University

Hogan Cup - Omagh CBS (Tyrone)

You can't claim the club titles in both years to suit that argument.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 5times5times on January 14, 2025, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 13, 2025, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 13, 2025, 06:41:32 PMHow do the mexicans feel about Ulster possibly winning another 2x AI titles this year?

All-Ireland Senior Football Championship - Armagh

All-Ireland Under 20s - Tyrone

All-Ireland Minor - Derry

Tailteann Cup - Down

National League Division One - Derry

National League Division Two - Donegal

All-Ireland Senior Club - Another ulster team favourites)

All-Ireland Intermediate Club - Another ulster team favourites

Sigerson Cup - Ulster University

Hogan Cup - Omagh CBS (Tyrone)

You can't claim the club titles in both years to suit that argument.

Let me fix that...

How do the mexicans feel about Ulster possibly winning another 2x AI titles this year?

All-Ireland Senior Football Championship - Armagh

All-Ireland Under 20s - Tyrone

All-Ireland Minor - Derry

Tailteann Cup - Down

National League Division One - Derry

National League Division Two - Donegal

All-Ireland Senior Club - Glen (Derry)

All-Ireland Intermediate Club - St Patrick's (Armagh)

All-Ireland Junior Club - Arva (Cavan)

Sigerson Cup - Ulster University

Hogan Cup - Omagh CBS (Tyrone)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: 03,05,08 on January 14, 2025, 12:00:08 PM
Would there have been any years where Munster cleaned up in both hurling and football?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2025, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on January 14, 2025, 12:00:08 PMWould there have been any years where Munster cleaned up in both hurling and football?

Nemo and other Munster winners at seniors at that level would have, then all the Kerry winners in football, but mainly Kilkenny teams at Junior and intermediate in hurling, so maybe not so much
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: johnnycool on January 14, 2025, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on January 14, 2025, 12:00:08 PMWould there have been any years where Munster cleaned up in both hurling and football?

In Munster they'd be more supportive of both codes than a lot of the Ulster counties barring maybe Waterford.

In football, a small enough county like Clare would give most Ulster counties a tough enough outing even though hurling is their number 1 sport.



Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 14, 2025, 07:44:14 PM
Confirmed today.   Saturday January 25 JFC All Ireland Final An Cheathrú Rua v Naomh Pádraig, Muff, Croke Park, 3.10pm, live on TG4


The game will be part of a triple header along with the Hurling League Division 1B encounter, Dublin v Antrim (5.15pm), and Football League Division One game, Dublin v Mayo (7.30pm).
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 17, 2025, 05:26:18 PM
All Ireland  Intermediate final rescheduled for Sunday 26 January at 1:30pm in Croke Park.

The funeral of Róisín Cryan, fiancé of Conor Loftus took place last Wednesday RIP.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Norm-Peterson on January 18, 2025, 12:37:28 PM
I would rather see Cuala win as I like the stat that Tyrone have won no Senior club All Irelands. Tyrone generally have a very smug fan base so it is a nice fact to say to them.

I notice how the media say that Tyrone have "never won a club All Ireland" yet they ignore the Intermediate and Junior All Ireland's. It shows you that those championships aren't taken seriously as All Ireland's. If you win them you aren't really the best team in Ireland, just the best team in that tier.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RedHand88 on January 18, 2025, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on January 18, 2025, 12:37:28 PMI would rather see Cuala win as I like the stat that Tyrone have won no Senior club All Irelands. Tyrone generally have a very smug fan base so it is a nice fact to say to them.

I notice how the media say that Tyrone have "never won a club All Ireland" yet they ignore the Intermediate and Junior All Ireland's. It shows you that those championships aren't taken seriously as All Ireland's. If you win them you aren't really the best team in Ireland, just the best team in that tier.

99% of Tyrone could not care less that a club from the county has not won the senior all-ireland.
Nice to see we still live rent free to some lads heads though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on January 18, 2025, 12:52:11 PM
As a south Derry man, I'd be delighted if EC win.

Be great to see Peter Harte win a senior club AI. He must have some collection of medals now. Been a brilliant servant for Tyrone.

Anybody know his medal count?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 18, 2025, 01:02:59 PM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on January 18, 2025, 12:37:28 PMI would rather see Cuala win as I like the stat that Tyrone have won no Senior club All Irelands. Tyrone generally have a very smug fan base so it is a nice fact to say to them.

I notice how the media say that Tyrone have "never won a club All Ireland" yet they ignore the Intermediate and Junior All Ireland's. It shows you that those championships aren't taken seriously as All Ireland's. If you win them you aren't really the best team in Ireland, just the best team in that tier.

Mon Norm! I'd like to see EC win. Enda worked with me on a bit of rehabbing down in Craigavon, a real civil hoor
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 18, 2025, 01:17:30 PM
As someone with no love for the tyrone county team, I've no bother backing Errigal tomorrow.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 18, 2025, 01:41:25 PM
Don't feel as guilty now having a soft spot for them lol after the last few posts. Those canavans are a pleasure to watch (when not playing again doire)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 18, 2025, 02:00:20 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 18, 2025, 01:41:25 PMDon't feel as guilty now having a soft spot for them lol after the last few posts. Those canavans are a pleasure to watch (when not playing again doire)

That's why im going to watch it tomorrow, for them. Hope the wide open spaces of croke will suit them. Don't think Cuala will be as naive as crokes were.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 18, 2025, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 18, 2025, 01:41:25 PMDon't feel as guilty now having a soft spot for them lol after the last few posts. Those canavans are a pleasure to watch (when not playing again doire)
Pleasure to watch and 2 serious ballers, but the constant diving puts me off them. Was watching clips of their owl boy and Jesus some of the tackles he took would have finished the 2 lads. Different game now. (Senior was found of the odd dive too)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 18, 2025, 02:27:07 PM
From Gaelic statsman

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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhfIaJSXYAAyo2i?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhfIagAXEAAg-OR?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhfIa4SXMAA7A65?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 18, 2025, 02:38:28 PM
Errigals battle hardened experience to prove key?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 18, 2025, 03:11:07 PM
Flip me, who named  their child Rory McRory?

Sounds like a character  from Ballamorey or something.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ClubScene13 on January 18, 2025, 10:03:38 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 18, 2025, 03:11:07 PMFlip me, who named  their child Rory McRory?

Sounds like a character  from Ballamorey or something.

Must be a typo, Ronan McRory
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tyrone Split on January 19, 2025, 02:02:40 AM
Re: match day parking - I normally use O'Connell schools behind Canal End for parking at Croke Park matches / events , esp. after Clonliffe College ceased to exist as an option -  but does anyone with experience know if it's usually open for the club finals?   Thanks in advance  :)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 03:24:05 AM
It be open, normally is, for any Croke park games.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh Girl on January 19, 2025, 11:51:50 AM
Tyrone split you won't get parked there, as the new Croke Pk hotel is being built on jones road end but all closed off. Plenty of parking around Croker or if you up for wee bit of walk park near fagans bar area. Good luck to the Ulster team today and safe travels
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: downtothecore on January 19, 2025, 12:57:30 PM
Should be a tight game but Errigal have had plenty of practice this year coming out on top in these tight games so I think they will edge this contest. Errigal by 2.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 19, 2025, 12:59:53 PM
As much as I am sick of the Dubs. Both Na Fianna and Cuala are doing a good job engaging supporters.

Na Fianna did a walk to Croker.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 02:00:05 PM
Jack O'Connor can't buy a score, probably missed 5 easy scores.

Na Fianna are streets ahead

Dublin double
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cyril Farrell fan on January 19, 2025, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 19, 2025, 12:59:53 PMAs much as I am sick of the Dubs. Both Na Fianna and Cuala are doing a good job engaging supporters.

Na Fianna did a walk to Croker.
When you live within sight of Croke Park...
The Dubs expect an award for managing to turn up on time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 19, 2025, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on January 19, 2025, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 19, 2025, 12:59:53 PMAs much as I am sick of the Dubs. Both Na Fianna and Cuala are doing a good job engaging supporters.

Na Fianna did a walk to Croker.
When you live within sight of Croke Park...
The Dubs expect an award for managing to turn up on time.
Club supporters will always turn up on time... many championship Dubs and other counties a whole different supporter being dragged from Premiership games on TV
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 03:37:55 PM
Thought EC were going to join the band there
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PM
Sounds like a soccer crowd.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

They've always been like that, that crowd, same when they were doing well in the hurling
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:46:32 PM
Ec are stuck when they're past their own 45 at the minute. Would need to change a lot.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 03:48:37 PM
No. 6 for EC is too pumped up, that's twice he's hit after the ball
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 03:50:08 PM
Cuala very defensive and then break at pace.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 03:51:17 PM
Errigal are a bag of nerves.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering

And Tyrone will always find something to moan about.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: galwayman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:58 PM
Errigal stuck to the ground so far
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 19, 2025, 03:52:17 PM
Nothing clicking for EC at the minute. They need to settle quickly before this gets away from them.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 19, 2025, 03:52:38 PM
Never seen a team as nervous
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 03:53:02 PM
Game Over already
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 03:53:09 PM
That's that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 19, 2025, 03:53:34 PM
Some start for Culua 2-4 to 0-1 after 13 minutes.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 19, 2025, 03:53:40 PM
Another goal for Cuala! EC haven't shown up yet.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on January 19, 2025, 03:56:16 PM
Jesus even kicking frees too short, going to be a long day for them
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering

And Tyrone will always find something to moan about.

Are you actually telling me you like listening to that or you just having a pop because tyrone beat you in 21?

All joking aside there is no call for the constant booing
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: armaghniac on January 19, 2025, 03:57:31 PM
I thought the hurling was one-sided...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering

And Tyrone will always find something to moan about.

Are you actually telling me you like listening to that or you just having a pop because tyrone beat you in 21?

All joking aside there is no call for the constant booing

Mute it
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 19, 2025, 03:59:02 PM
What was that free for against McCrory
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: GTP on January 19, 2025, 03:59:18 PM
EC getting wiped out all over the field could get very bad on the scoreboard.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 19, 2025, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 03:53:02 PMGame Over already

Errigal 14/1. Cuala have no bench and fade badly in games.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:00:06 PM
Heavy hit there, accidental though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:00:31 PM
Not sure he's getting up from that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 04:01:15 PM
Jesus Christ this is an annihilation!

Darragh sparked out there he can't play on.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:01:42 PM
That's a definite concussion
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering

And Tyrone will always find something to moan about.

Are you actually telling me you like listening to that or you just having a pop because tyrone beat you in 21?

All joking aside there is no call for the constant booing

I genuinely haven't noticed. I'm concentrating on the match.
But that mightnt keep my attention for much longer the way its going
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:02:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 04:01:15 PMJesus Christ this is an annihilation!

Darragh sparked out there he can't play on.

Concussion for sure
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on January 19, 2025, 03:59:02 PMWhat was that free for against McCrory

Think ref said it was a throw ball, didnt appear to be.

Count at least 5 points gifted by the ref. 1st goal came from what should have been a free for peter harte.

However EC cant even string 2 passes together at the moment
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 04:03:25 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering

And Tyrone will always find something to moan about.

Are you actually telling me you like listening to that or you just having a pop because tyrone beat you in 21?

All joking aside there is no call for the constant booing

I genuinely haven't noticed. I'm concentrating on the match.
But that mightnt keep my attention for much longer the way its going

It has calmed down a good bit probably cause the game is dead now
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:03:37 PM
Cuala could took a few more points instead trying into walk it into the net
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:04:23 PM
Dead now
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on January 19, 2025, 04:04:47 PM
God its just painful and I'm a neutral
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 19, 2025, 04:05:07 PM
This performance from EC is up there with the worst from a team in club final.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RedHand88 on January 19, 2025, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Passionate? Enthusiastic?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:05:36 PM
Peter may get togged out
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: joemamas on January 19, 2025, 04:06:23 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Jesus dub teams are brutal to listen to. Booing and jeering

And Tyrone will always find something to moan about.

Are you actually telling me you like listening to that or you just having a pop because tyrone beat you in 21?

All joking aside there is no call for the constant booing

I genuinely haven't noticed. I'm concentrating on the match.
But that mightnt keep my attention for much longer the way its going

Are you serious, like a soccer crowd
Unnecessary
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 19, 2025, 04:06:49 PM
2 nice points there.
Time to ban Dublin Clubs from the Championships?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:07:25 PM
People complaining about supporters lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: joemamas on January 19, 2025, 04:08:03 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 19, 2025, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 03:44:05 PMSounds like a soccer crowd.

Passionate? Enthusiastic?
no just not used to hearing thta five minutes into a club game.
anyhow time to do laundry.
feel for EC, but sport can be cruel.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 19, 2025, 04:08:35 PM
Massive surprise Cuala have this AI final wrapped up so soon. Would have thought the Tyrone and Ulster champions would be battle harden and Cuala didn't blow any of the Leinster or Sligo champions away
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:08:45 PM
Dublin team,bigger,heavier,faster,.Where we heard that before. Errigal fairly average without the 2 Canavans
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 19, 2025, 04:08:50 PM
There won't be an art gallery open in Dalkey tomorrow
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:07:25 PMPeople complaining about supporters lol

You do it all the time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:09:34 PM
I made the comment and am not from Tyrone. It's about all there is to comment on here. As one sided as there's been in years.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:09:46 PM
I didn't even think Cuala were that good, and still put Kilmacud way ahead of them.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:09:57 PM
Puts it to bed now, Dublin championship is the best
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:10:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:07:25 PMPeople complaining about supporters lol

You do it all the time.

Like all the time?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 04:12:18 PM
Non-stop.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:12:31 PM
In saying that,some men putting their hands up for Dublin duty.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:13:16 PM
Where is it going so wrong for ec? Wiped out on their own kick outs? Lack of movement. I would say cuala are just better but ec are surely better than this?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:07:25 PMPeople complaining about supporters lol


Mental stuff.. They're gaa fans in  a gaa ground watching a football game. Plenty of club / county supporters boo. Nothing to get annoyed about surely

Hopefully EC get it together here and try and make some kind of competitive game out of this
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: WT4E on January 19, 2025, 04:14:56 PM
If there was ever a time to start a row on the way in at half time that was it......
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:13:16 PMWhere is it going so wrong for ec? Wiped out on their own kick outs? Lack of movement. I would say cuala are just better but ec are surely better than this?

Hard to say. EC nerves, boys throwing themselves into tackles late early on, Cuala focused and get a run in them, score heavily early on, some EC players go missing (only takes a couple)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 19, 2025, 04:15:14 PM
Half time Errigal Ciara 0-5 Cuala 3-9. Hands up who seen that coming?

3-9 from 15 shots and 0-5 from 8 shots in that half.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:16:00 PM
It is hard to say. I don't think they are as bad as this but cuala obviously a lot better.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 19, 2025, 04:17:07 PM
Very disappointed with Errigal. I thought Cuala would struggle. But they are miles ahead.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2025, 04:17:27 PM
Should have been Clonoe out there anyway.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 04:12:18 PMNon-stop.

;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RedHand88 on January 19, 2025, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2025, 04:17:27 PMShould have been Clonoe out there anyway.

Should have been Pomeroy by that logic!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armaghtothebone on January 19, 2025, 04:19:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:09:57 PMPuts it to bed now, Dublin championship is the best

Nope.
Leaving aside the 2 All Ireland club titles for UCD ( a joke) then it's Cork top with the Dubs and Galway level.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: weareros on January 19, 2025, 04:20:03 PM
Thought it would be tighter based on form but Cuala noticeably physically bigger team and have made it count. Also have been able to find acres of spaces in Croker. Errigal were setup so well defensively against Crokes but have struggled today. Good to see Errigal eventually settle down a bit and score some nice points but when your 10 points down after 10 minutes, hard to keep the heads up. Will there be calls for Austin O'Malley to manage Mayo but then again McStay and Rochford have club All-Ireland's too.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:20:24 PM
Well, as if we didn't know, it looks like Dublin got the most competitive Senior Club Championship.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 19, 2025, 04:22:03 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 19, 2025, 04:08:35 PMMassive surprise Cuala have this AI final wrapped up so soon. Would have thought the Tyrone and Ulster champions would be battle harden and Cuala didn't blow any of the Leinster or Sligo champions away

I think more likely the many battles have worked against them, particularly extra time last week, looked very leggy right from the start. What will be more disappointing is that they lost their composure when they made the bad start, nobody stood up to try and keep them in it and get through the rough spell. In no time it was gone from them. Losing Darragh just another blow in a half hour when pretty much nothing went for them. Have to say I have sympathy for them, always sore to lose on the big day but to not turn up at all, that will leave you with massive regrets. Hope they can at least compete in the second half.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:23:53 PM
U up against a Dublin team in croker, it's a advantage even though they don't play there, more a psychological advantage.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thewobbler on January 19, 2025, 04:25:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:23:53 PMU up against a Dublin team in croker, it's a advantage even though they don't play there, more a psychological advantage.

That couldn't surely explain more than 0.05 difference between the sides.

Errigal imploded and modern overcoached sides can't react to this situation. To be fair sides couldn't react much better to these situations in the "olden" days either, but at least they'd likely have gone out flailing.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 19, 2025, 04:26:20 PM
Just typical that a Tyrone team would end the perfect record for Ulster football teams in All Ireland finals the last 12 months.


Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:28:59 PM
Different team now
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 19, 2025, 04:29:44 PM
The comeback is on.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:31:19 PM
Cuala will just chip away. Only goals will impact this.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 19, 2025, 04:35:46 PM
What a goal!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:35:58 PM
Some goal there!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 04:36:18 PM
A bullet!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 19, 2025, 04:36:29 PM
Some goal for Harte. 1-10 to 3-11 game on again?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:36:35 PM
Haven't seen a better for a long time
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 04:36:44 PM
May they lose this by 100, that's some goal!!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: WT4E on January 19, 2025, 04:36:53 PM
Peter Harte can do it all.... what a player what a servant
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: weareros on January 19, 2025, 04:37:00 PM
Goal of the year already.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:37:03 PM
This could be a Mayo like fold.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:37:31 PM
Did he definitely mean that?? I think he did but just checking...

Harte showing leadership here.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:37:50 PM
Momentum switch

It's the game we wanted

Tyrone club championship is getting better by the minute
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:38:05 PM
Errigal doing rash tackles
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 19, 2025, 04:38:55 PM
One of the best goals ever scored. Will only be remembered as that if EC get something from the game though
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: WT4E on January 19, 2025, 04:38:59 PM
Cuala 13 how many steps
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:39:05 PM
He definitely looked at it before he hit it, so I think he did.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:37:03 PMThis could be a Mayo like fold.

when were Mayo winning a final by anything close to 13 points?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:39:17 PM
Free taken from wrong place throw ball is it not?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 19, 2025, 04:40:36 PM
Peter Harte driving on Errigal Ciaran. Cuala falling apart. Errigal missing nothing in second half.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:42:10 PM
Cuala only had put that over the bar.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: WT4E on January 19, 2025, 04:43:19 PM
Peter Harte like gerard in the cup final that day.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: GTP on January 19, 2025, 04:44:21 PM
Cuala doing a good impression of EC in the first 20 minutes, look panicked.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:45:06 PM
Ec need more goals. Scoreboard can just be kept ticking over.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: RedHand88 on January 19, 2025, 04:48:28 PM
If errigal do everything perfectly from here you just never know.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 04:48:42 PM
Some baffling calls now... Time is ticking on, EC goal soon would be the ticket
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 19, 2025, 04:51:39 PM
Errigal Ciaran 1-15 Cuala 3-13  with five minutes of normal time left.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:52:03 PM
Be some comeback

My draw bets looking good  ;D
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:53:02 PM
It's very bad time management by Cuala, all they had do was hold onto the ball for long spells, when Errigal were on top, take the sting out of the game, they haven't done that, Couple of time should took points instead of trying to walk it into the net.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Gael85 on January 19, 2025, 04:53:14 PM
Cuala are gassed.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:53:25 PM
Still not going to happen. Hope to be wrong though...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:55:49 PM
Team with Fitzsimmons and O'Callaghan on it should not be panicking like this though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:57:44 PM
it will be a very anticlimactic win after this
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 04:57:48 PM
Think there's a goal here
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 04:58:15 PM
Joe is far too rough in the tackle. The amount of frees he has given away in semi final and today is criminal
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 04:58:46 PM
Harte,hit a lad a dig late there,
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 04:59:19 PM
Far too rash. Don't think o'rourke will favour him. (Oguz)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 05:00:01 PM
Ach Harte after that performance.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 19, 2025, 05:00:29 PM
Good comeback but the wait goes on for a Tyrone team to win a Senior club All Ireland title. FT Errigal Ciaran 1-16 Cuala 3-14


Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: shark on January 19, 2025, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:57:44 PMit will be a very anticlimactic win after this

Hardly think Cuala will care
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: mackers on January 19, 2025, 05:00:46 PM
Pity Harte's day finished on that note. He's been an inspiration
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:00:56 PM
4 points gifted by the ref in first half was the difference in the end
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 05:01:06 PM
Bit of class from Con there looks to have won it.

Harte spoils what was one of the great second half performances!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 05:01:47 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:00:56 PM4 points gifted by the ref in first half was the difference in the end

Unbelievable consistency from you
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:00:56 PM4 points gifted by the ref in first half was the difference in the end

Eh? An awful first half performance was the difference.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: shark on January 19, 2025, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:57:44 PMit will be a very anticlimactic win after this

Hardly think Cuala will care

😂😂 yeah they're hardly celebrating at all!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:02:03 PM
What a second have from Errigal, Harte was unreal, just had too much to do, Cuala chipped away with a few points to keep the noses in front.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:00:56 PM4 points gifted by the ref in first half was the difference in the end

EC weren't complaining when the shoe was on the other foot in Ulster so I doubt they'll complain now
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 05:02:27 PM
Errigal will have nightmares for years about that first half in which nerves cost them big time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 05:02:39 PM
Not the ref again, he gave Errigal a few debatable ones in the 2nd. Think u need look at been 13pts down at halftime and scoring 1pt in 25mins,  but we blame the ref
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 04:58:15 PMJoe is far too rough in the tackle. The amount of frees he has given away in semi final and today is criminal
White socks over the clubs ones even more criminal!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:00:56 PM4 points gifted by the ref in first half was the difference in the end

Seriously?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 19, 2025, 05:03:10 PM
Hard luck EC, magnificent performance in the 2nd half especially by Peter Harte but he had to go for that punch.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SCFC on January 19, 2025, 05:03:31 PM
Lovely. Enjoyable game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 05:03:49 PM
Big shock! MOM is an Irish speaker lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 19, 2025, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: shark on January 19, 2025, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:57:44 PMit will be a very anticlimactic win after this

Hardly think Cuala will care

😂😂 yeah they're hardly celebrating at all!

After party cancelled due to EC comeback
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 19, 2025, 05:04:30 PM
At least Errigal made a game of it in the end but they'll be sick, getting so close after not turning up in the first half and playing so long without Darragh. A huge missed opportunity for them. Fair play to Petey Harte, dragged them back into it himself.

Congratulations to Cuala, worthy champions.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: shark on January 19, 2025, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 04:57:44 PMit will be a very anticlimactic win after this

Hardly think Cuala will care

😂😂 yeah they're hardly celebrating at all!

Yeah, maybe bad call on that one 😀
Just looked like they were shell-shocked for most of second half, half expected them to be in a daze
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 05:06:18 PM
Des Cahill got a lad on This team?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 19, 2025, 05:06:55 PM
Credit to EC for making a fist of it in the second half but a horrible first half display left too much to do.Harte really carried the fight to Cuala in second half.Few bad decisions/misses when they had momentum, McGinley kicked a terrible ball away, r canavan dropped one badly short and could have shipped the ball to a runner on another occasion and one of the subs kicked a garryowen on his left foot.Well done Cuala very athletic and cut EC to pieces in first half.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:07:28 PM
Canavan must have been bad enough when he couldn't have came back on, probably would have been the difference in the end. Tommy Canavan some baller too but that late free dropping short was criminal.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PM
Harte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 19, 2025, 05:08:06 PM
Such a shame Peter Harte's afternoon finished the way it did ,he was phenomenal today
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PMHarte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs

He got a red...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PMHarte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs
He did get a red in the end umpire must have called it, not that there was much point at that stage
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:07:28 PMCanavan must have been bad enough when he couldn't have came back on, probably would have been the difference in the end. Tommy Canavan some baller too but that late free dropping short was criminal.

He had a concussion, wouldnt have been allowed back on. Agree with that free, would have brought it back to 2 point's
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 19, 2025, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 05:02:27 PMErrigal will have nightmares for years about that first half in which nerves cost them big time.

Nerves? they were shite especially defensively in the 1st half where that game was lost regardless of the 2nd half fightback.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 05:14:26 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 05:06:18 PMDes Cahill got a lad on This team?
No, don't think so.
Don't know why he's positioned himself on the pitch beside the manager either  ::)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Feckitt on January 19, 2025, 05:14:56 PM
What is the name of the U2 song playing at full time?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PMHarte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs
He did get a red in the end umpire must have called it, not that there was much point at that stage

Ref pointed at it immediately and then played the advantage. Very good refereeing to be fair.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 05:19:59 PM
At least ec made a fight of it. They'll be sore from that first half mind you.

Cuala have some very solid operators especially round midfield.

Cuala manager comes across very well.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Low and Hard on January 19, 2025, 05:22:04 PM
I've never seen an individual performance like Peter Harte's in the 2nd half. Didn't deserve to be on the losing side.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 05:22:07 PM
I say that be the Dublin midfield this year!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PMHarte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs
He did get a red in the end umpire must have called it, not that there was much point at that stage

Ref pointed at it immediately and then played the advantage. Very good refereeing to be fair.
Fair enough didn't notice that. Pure frustration obviously.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 05:23:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 05:19:59 PMAt least ec made a fight of it. They'll be sore from that first half mind you.

Cuala have some very solid operators especially round midfield.

Cuala manager comes across very well.

Spoke well

It must be difficult to say the right things at half time in both those changing rooms at HT today
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PMHarte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs
He did get a red in the end umpire must have called it, not that there was much point at that stage

Ref pointed at it immediately and then played the advantage. Very good refereeing to be fair.
Fair enough didn't notice that. Pure frustration obviously.

Not really, it's just a dirty cheap dig to the ribs
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PM
Was  Canavan  taken out?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 05:27:57 PM
Seriously,it was accidental,go bck and watch it.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 05:29:58 PM
I didn't think Harte was that brilliant. Yes he had a good second half and did a lot of good going forward but he conceded a lot of needless frees and/or was loose defensively which allowed Cuala to slow EC's momentum at crucial times. Also very surprised he didn't take a couple of the late free kicks.

That said. Great finish on the goal
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Mario on January 19, 2025, 05:07:36 PMHarte lucky to avoid a red at the end there. Not that it would have mattered. Definite punch to the ribs
He did get a red in the end umpire must have called it, not that there was much point at that stage

Ref pointed at it immediately and then played the advantage. Very good refereeing to be fair.
Fair enough didn't notice that. Pure frustration obviously.

Not really, it's just a dirty cheap dig to the ribs

Was a cheap shot alright. There seemed to have been words said prior to that, the camera zoomed in on a furious harte after he scored a point, clearly wasnt happy at what was said to him
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 05:35:56 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:07:28 PMCanavan must have been bad enough when he couldn't have came back on, probably would have been the difference in the end. Tommy Canavan some baller too but that late free dropping short was criminal.

He had a concussion, wouldnt have been allowed back on. Agree with that free, would have brought it back to 2 point's

Is there an award for being beat by 3 instead of 4?

EC made some game of it in the 2nd half, they cam alive after Harte's wonder strike, sharp in the tackle, finally turning Cula over in the tackle and supporting the man on the ball. Hard lines
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2025, 05:40:52 PM
That was a remarkable second-half performance by Peter Harte.

Just before the red card, he should have just gone for goal himself instead of laying it off. Probably would have been pulled down if he didn't get a shot away.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 05:44:35 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 05:27:57 PMSeriously,it was accidental,go bck and watch it.

Probably accidental. Only the Cuala player himself can answer that one.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 05:35:56 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:07:28 PMCanavan must have been bad enough when he couldn't have came back on, probably would have been the difference in the end. Tommy Canavan some baller too but that late free dropping short was criminal.

He had a concussion, wouldnt have been allowed back on. Agree with that free, would have brought it back to 2 point's

Is there an award for being beat by 3 instead of 4?

EC made some game of it in the 2nd half, they cam alive after Harte's wonder strike, sharp in the tackle, finally turning Cula over in the tackle and supporting the man on the ball. Hard lines

I would rather be in the final few mintues losing by 2 rather than 3. Still doesnt excuse dropping a shot short from that distance.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 19, 2025, 06:13:56 PM
I see both Darragh and Ruairi Canavan were both sent to the hospital for concussion checks after the game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 19, 2025, 07:06:53 PM
31,267 official attendance.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 07:09:07 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 19, 2025, 07:06:53 PM31,267 official attendance.

That's good numbers
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 05:35:56 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:07:28 PMCanavan must have been bad enough when he couldn't have came back on, probably would have been the difference in the end. Tommy Canavan some baller too but that late free dropping short was criminal.

He had a concussion, wouldnt have been allowed back on. Agree with that free, would have brought it back to 2 point's

Is there an award for being beat by 3 instead of 4?

EC made some game of it in the 2nd half, they cam alive after Harte's wonder strike, sharp in the tackle, finally turning Cula over in the tackle and supporting the man on the ball. Hard lines
Well if that goes over would have left what 2 in it? Big momentum swinger if you nail that and maybe turn over the next kickout
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on January 19, 2025, 07:21:47 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me, the balls there and
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me. Player makes a move towards the movement of the ball and Canavan moves to it as well. Accidental in my opinion.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:25:00 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 19, 2025, 07:21:47 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me, the balls there and
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me. Player makes a move towards the movement of the ball and Canavan moves to it as well. Accidental in my opinion.

The only way he was going to get the ball was to go through the player. He had zero chance of winning the ball. He was quick enough to get away from the scene
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

He's not. the ball is free, darragh lunges for the ball at the same time as cuala player is coming in, and they collide.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 07:31:02 PM
Yeah, I don't see intent with that in real time.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 07:42:08 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Looking at it again, that's  a red card

Defender makes no  attempt to collect the ball in the hands or  kick it with the foot . There's no need  for the knee to be there.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Sportacus on January 19, 2025, 07:48:15 PM
A great second half to bring down the curtain on the old rules.  When two teams are driving at each other and there's a bit of space, Gaelic football is fantastic.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 07:57:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 19, 2025, 07:48:15 PMA great second half to bring down the curtain on the old rules.  When two teams are driving at each other and there's a bit of space, Gaelic football is fantastic.

The 3v3 is giving me the jitters tbh
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2025, 08:00:04 PM
That's not a red clumsy but not intentional.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2025, 08:03:36 PM
Yeah that's not a red. Brutal hit though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: blewuporstuffed on January 19, 2025, 08:06:24 PM
Don't think it's a red either..would give the defender the benefit of the doubt there. In slow mo I think it makes it look worse than it was
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 19, 2025, 08:07:14 PM
The ball is loose, both men going for the ball,Canavan on the ground and dives across the Cuala player trying  to get the ball. Bad hit to the head, but it's not even a foul.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 19, 2025, 09:00:56 PM
My take on it also.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lenny on January 19, 2025, 09:33:23 PM
Definitely not a red, wouldn't even say it was a foul. Great match and good comeback from EC. Brilliant goal from Harte who was excellent in the second half. Cuala probably deserved it overall, their first half was incredible.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 10:33:53 PM
At first it didn't look deliberate but the more it's watched I think Darragh Canavan has been taken out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 10:33:53 PMAt first it didn't look deliberate but the more it's watched I think Darragh Canavan has been taken out.
Drink is a curse for that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: WT4E on January 19, 2025, 10:38:10 PM
Agree with clarshack.

If GAA had VAR that would be a red.

Sure didn't dooher slide his head under McDermotts boot back in 96.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 10:46:36 PM
keep going lads and ye will have yourselves convinced it's all part of the southern conspiracy
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 10:57:10 PM
If Dara had been on the field all day it would have made for some finish. Anyway, hope the 2 lads are alright, read they'd both been taken to hospital.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 19, 2025, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 10:46:36 PMkeep going lads and ye will have yourselves convinced it's all part of the southern conspiracy

Heart ruling the head with some. Turned out to be some game, was hoping EC would win, but that was never deliberate / red. Diving across a man can often be the dangerous move, but both were 100% battling for the ball. Peter Harte has put in some shift for club and county. Missed the incident at the end.
I'd would say EC will be back next year, BUT, they'll have traverse the Tyrone championship and you wouldn't wish that on your own worst enemy
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 10:33:53 PMAt first it didn't look deliberate but the more it's watched I think Darragh Canavan has been taken out.
Drink is a curse for that.

Drink? Wtf are you talking about.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Christmas Lights on January 19, 2025, 11:25:03 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 10:33:53 PMAt first it didn't look deliberate but the more it's watched I think Darragh Canavan has been taken out.
Drink is a curse for that.

Drink? Wtf are you talking about.

He thinks you are fulla drink
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 19, 2025, 11:29:44 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on January 19, 2025, 11:25:03 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 19, 2025, 10:33:53 PMAt first it didn't look deliberate but the more it's watched I think Darragh Canavan has been taken out.
Drink is a curse for that.

Drink? Wtf are you talking about.

He thinks you are fulla drink

Actually doing Dry January.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2025, 11:50:41 PM
Are ye really?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: phpearse on January 20, 2025, 08:12:28 AM
Shocking first half from Errigal. They seemed a bag of nerves and Cuala took full advantage. Cuala were so good in the first half but looked very average in the second half but only needed to add a few points to stay ahead. Cuala pressed all the EC kick outs and EC couldn't get a ball. Peter Harte fouled in the build up to one of Cuala's goals in the first half. Some refs will blow for the foul on the arm when trying for a hand pass. That said Errigal allowed Cuala the whole way up the field to score.

Harte had some second half. If they had Darragh on the park, maybe just maybe. Anyway Errigal did save a bit of face with the fight back in the second half. Only the defender knows if he intentionally hit Darragh. I don't think he did, it is just a split second timing.

Errigal will probably get knocked out in the first round of Tyrone this year!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: skeog on January 20, 2025, 09:38:24 AM
Sneaky knee in the head red card all day long.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: skeog on January 20, 2025, 09:38:24 AMSneaky knee in the head red card all day long.

Watch it in real time, there is no way he was intentionally looking down and dipped his knee into his head, just a accident and had he not moved his head forward into the path of it he'd be celebrating a huge win for EC today
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 20, 2025, 10:14:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: skeog on January 20, 2025, 09:38:24 AMSneaky knee in the head red card all day long.

Watch it in real time, there is no way he was intentionally looking down and dipped his knee into his head, just a accident and had he not moved his head forward into the path of it he'd be celebrating a huge win for EC today
I don't think you can say that. He wasn't in the game at all and they were 11 points down when he got the knee to head. The closest EC got was 3 points and at that stage there was only a few minutes left. It felt closer as the margin was so big at HT. Cuala went into that second half thinking they had the game won and obviously their performance levels dropped but they still pushed the lead out to 4 points the first time they really had to react.



Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DownFanatic on January 20, 2025, 10:15:27 AM
We always look for reasons to justify a poor start from a team in a game. But yesterday there was a marked difference in the warm up regimes from both teams. That being the 20 minute slot from about 3:10pm to 3:30pm that they did on the pitch. Cuala's, whilst simple and straightforward, flowed a lot better and looked regimented and energetic. Errigal's didn't and looked for the most part way too laid back and lethargic at times. Just really an observation but I can't help think that it played into that disastrous first half for EC.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armamike on January 20, 2025, 10:18:12 AM
Very impressed with Cuala.  Was that their first Dublin county championship they won? If so, to win an AI after just winning their first ever county championship is unbelievable.

Very unlucky for EC to lose probably their best player but would he have been the difference in winning and losing? I'm not sure about that. They were down 9 or 10 points when he was on the pitch.  Great comeback in the second half but it's very very rare for any team to come back from that deficit at half time.  Can get close and make it interesting, but usually fall short due to being goosed and the other side just tapping over a point or 2.



Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2025, 10:20:10 AM
The two Cuala midfielders were immense with 2-2 between them in midfield. When you look at the score sheet there weren't that many forwards scored. (3 was it?). Though they worked incredibly hard as EC couldn't get the ball out.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 20, 2025, 10:15:27 AMWe always look for reasons to justify a poor start from a team in a game. But yesterday there was a marked difference in the warm up regimes from both teams. That being the 20 minute slot from about 3:10pm to 3:30pm that they did on the pitch. Cuala's, whilst simple and straightforward, flowed a lot better and looked regimented and energetic. Errigal's didn't and looked for the most part way too laid back and lethargic at times. Just really an observation but I can't help think that it played into that disastrous first half for EC.

Their proper warm up would have been in some local pitch, before heading to Croke, there is also a small training court besides their changing rooms, so plenty of opportunity to get ready.

They just looked too pumped, all heading over to the squad for the national anthem and then having to move because the band was there was not needed, Cuala were more relaxed stood as a team and a few things just broke for them and they went clear after that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DownFanatic on January 20, 2025, 10:31:03 AM
What EC did in relation to the final stage after pulling away from behind the band was just silly. As you say, they were obviously very pumped up.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2025, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 20, 2025, 10:15:27 AMWe always look for reasons to justify a poor start from a team in a game. But yesterday there was a marked difference in the warm up regimes from both teams. That being the 20 minute slot from about 3:10pm to 3:30pm that they did on the pitch. Cuala's, whilst simple and straightforward, flowed a lot better and looked regimented and energetic. Errigal's didn't and looked for the most part way too laid back and lethargic at times. Just really an observation but I can't help think that it played into that disastrous first half for EC.

Their proper warm up would have been in some local pitch, before heading to Croke, there is also a small training court besides their changing rooms, so plenty of opportunity to get ready.

They just looked too pumped, all heading over to the squad for the national anthem and then having to move because the band was there was not needed, Cuala were more relaxed stood as a team and a few things just broke for them and they went clear after that.

There is a bit of all this but even before the goal EC couldn't get the ball out. They couldn't cope with Cuala's pressing.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:53:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2025, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 20, 2025, 10:15:27 AMWe always look for reasons to justify a poor start from a team in a game. But yesterday there was a marked difference in the warm up regimes from both teams. That being the 20 minute slot from about 3:10pm to 3:30pm that they did on the pitch. Cuala's, whilst simple and straightforward, flowed a lot better and looked regimented and energetic. Errigal's didn't and looked for the most part way too laid back and lethargic at times. Just really an observation but I can't help think that it played into that disastrous first half for EC.

Their proper warm up would have been in some local pitch, before heading to Croke, there is also a small training court besides their changing rooms, so plenty of opportunity to get ready.

They just looked too pumped, all heading over to the squad for the national anthem and then having to move because the band was there was not needed, Cuala were more relaxed stood as a team and a few things just broke for them and they went clear after that.

There is a bit of all this but even before the goal EC couldn't get the ball out. They couldn't cope with Cuala's pressing.

And the midfield dominated everything
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AM
Cuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armamike on January 20, 2025, 12:17:49 PM
That's about it in a nutshell!
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh4sam2024 on January 20, 2025, 12:26:36 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:25:00 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 19, 2025, 07:21:47 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me, the balls there and
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me. Player makes a move towards the movement of the ball and Canavan moves to it as well. Accidental in my opinion.

The only way he was going to get the ball was to go through the player. He had zero chance of winning the ball. He was quick enough to get away from the scene

While the knee to head looks poor, only the Cuala player knows if it was deliberate or not.  The fact both Caravans end up in hosp with concussion points to a game plan to target them however.  Could you imagine the media outcry if it was both O'Callaghan's in hosp??
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armaghtothebone on January 20, 2025, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AMCuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.



Cannot believe I'm agreeing with tbrick18 on anything, but his last line is absolutely key.

Look at the absolute club kingpins from Ulster as regards the Club Championship (The Rangers).
Yes they had brilliant footballers, don't think I need to name them, but they ( when they were successful) also had plenty of old dogs ( no offence Brokencrossbar) for the hard road.
They could football you off the pitch but they had mem who loved the physical side too.
Any successful team (especially at Club level) needs that.
Yes Oisin  McConville/ Aaron Kernan etc were Rolls Royces of footballers but never underestimate the contributions of the Donal Murtaghs/ John Donaldsons etc.

In my humble opinion Errigal  lacked a bit  of "physical presence ".

Know/ do business with a few from Ballygawley and they'll be gutted today.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 20, 2025, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on January 20, 2025, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AMCuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.



Cannot believe I'm agreeing with tbrick18 on anything, but his last line is absolutely key.

Look at the absolute club kingpins from Ulster as regards the Club Championship (The Rangers).
Yes they had brilliant footballers, don't think I need to name them, but they ( when they were successful) also had plenty of old dogs ( no offence Brokencrossbar) for the hard road.
They could football you off the pitch but they had mem who loved the physical side too.
Any successful team (especially at Club level) needs that.
Yes Oisin  McConville/ Aaron Kernan etc were Rolls Royces of footballers but never underestimate the contributions of the Donal Murtaghs/ John Donaldsons etc.

In my humble opinion Errigal  lacked a bit  of "physical presence ".

Know/ do business with a few from Ballygawley and they'll be gutted today.
I thought the same that EC were very unlike a Tyrone team, didn't have that in your face mentality that alot of the successful tyrone county sides had. 
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Mario on January 20, 2025, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024While the knee to head looks poor, only the Cuala player knows if it was deliberate or not.  The fact both Caravans end up in hosp with concussion points to a game plan to target them however.  Could you imagine the media outcry if it was both O'Callaghan's in hosp??
Seen this a few times online but tbh I don't think it would be any different. The Canavans are talked about more in the media than O'Callaghan these days
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: thebigfullforward on January 20, 2025, 05:27:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 20, 2025, 10:15:27 AMWe always look for reasons to justify a poor start from a team in a game. But yesterday there was a marked difference in the warm up regimes from both teams. That being the 20 minute slot from about 3:10pm to 3:30pm that they did on the pitch. Cuala's, whilst simple and straightforward, flowed a lot better and looked regimented and energetic. Errigal's didn't and looked for the most part way too laid back and lethargic at times. Just really an observation but I can't help think that it played into that disastrous first half for EC.

Their proper warm up would have been in some local pitch, before heading to Croke, there is also a small training court besides their changing rooms, so plenty of opportunity to get ready.

They just looked too pumped, all heading over to the squad for the national anthem and then having to move because the band was there was not needed, Cuala were more relaxed stood as a team and a few things just broke for them and they went clear after that.
Did they not do this for the Tyrone and Ulster final too? Why would they do it for those 2 finals then change it up for the third one?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2025, 05:48:15 PM
Whether they headed over in Tyrone or Ulster is not my point. They were pumped up in my view and that was evident in the few tackles at the start. No. 6 was flying into needless tackles from the get go.

My view was Cuala looked relaxed and ready.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 20, 2025, 06:24:32 PM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on January 20, 2025, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AMCuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.



Cannot believe I'm agreeing with tbrick18 on anything, but his last line is absolutely key.

Look at the absolute club kingpins from Ulster as regards the Club Championship (The Rangers).
Yes they had brilliant footballers, don't think I need to name them, but they ( when they were successful) also had plenty of old dogs ( no offence Brokencrossbar) for the hard road.
They could football you off the pitch but they had mem who loved the physical side too.
Any successful team (especially at Club level) needs that.
Yes Oisin  McConville/ Aaron Kernan etc were Rolls Royces of footballers but never underestimate the contributions of the Donal Murtaghs/ John Donaldsons etc.

In my humble opinion Errigal  lacked a bit  of "physical presence ".

Know/ do business with a few from Ballygawley and they'll be gutted today.

None taken....taken as a compliment actually!  Was talking about this last week at training that the core of our team were physically very strong,  12 of our wearing team in excess of 6 foot and well made. We could play anyone at football but if needed we physically dominated.  EC didn't have that yesterday. Physically not up to it and that's not a criticism,  just an observation.

While the come back was excellent a few factors need to be considered. There was the inevitable bounce from
Darraghs injury,  'let's do it for him' approach and that's fine. The only thing is that energy is not sustainable and Cuala were able to keep them somewhat at arms length.

Secondly,  no matter how much you say it doesn't play into your mind Cuala were playing for the final whistle from half time. They were 'managing' the game and I always felt they had the gears to up it if needed. They are a very good team.

With all that said,  and with genuine congratulations to Cuala,  I'd be sitting there as a manager of a senior club team and saying these AIs for winning. I'd say there are 5-6 teams sick this morning thinking 'what if'. While that could be said any year I wouldn't be fearing them if I was playing them next year.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 20, 2025, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 20, 2025, 06:24:32 PM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on January 20, 2025, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AMCuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.



Cannot believe I'm agreeing with tbrick18 on anything, but his last line is absolutely key.

Look at the absolute club kingpins from Ulster as regards the Club Championship (The Rangers).
Yes they had brilliant footballers, don't think I need to name them, but they ( when they were successful) also had plenty of old dogs ( no offence Brokencrossbar) for the hard road.
They could football you off the pitch but they had mem who loved the physical side too.
Any successful team (especially at Club level) needs that.
Yes Oisin  McConville/ Aaron Kernan etc were Rolls Royces of footballers but never underestimate the contributions of the Donal Murtaghs/ John Donaldsons etc.

In my humble opinion Errigal  lacked a bit  of "physical presence ".

Know/ do business with a few from Ballygawley and they'll be gutted today.

None taken....taken as a compliment actually!  Was talking about this last week at training that the core of our team were physically very strong,  12 of our wearing team in excess of 6 foot and well made. We could play anyone at football but if needed we physically dominated.  EC didn't have that yesterday. Physically not up to it and that's not a criticism,  just an observation.

While the come back was excellent a few factors need to be considered. There was the inevitable bounce from
Darraghs injury,  'let's do it for him' approach and that's fine. The only thing is that energy is not sustainable and Cuala were able to keep them somewhat at arms length.

Secondly,  no matter how much you say it doesn't play into your mind Cuala were playing for the final whistle from half time. They were 'managing' the game and I always felt they had the gears to up it if needed. They are a very good team.

With all that said,  and with genuine congratulations to Cuala,  I'd be sitting there as a manager of a senior club team and saying these AIs for winning. I'd say there are 5-6 teams sick this morning thinking 'what if'. While that could be said any year I wouldn't be fearing them if I was playing them next year.

If you're 14 points up and managing the game then you use the extra gears way before it gets down to 3 points in the closing stages. Not credible to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on January 20, 2025, 10:48:02 PM
Errigal actually dropped a free short to get it back to 2 points with a few minutes left. You wonder if Darragh Canavan had been fit to come back on in those last ten mins could that have given them enough energy to get over the line.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: marty34 on January 20, 2025, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 20, 2025, 10:48:02 PMErrigal actually dropped a free short to get it back to 2 points with a few minutes left. You wonder if Darragh Canavan had been fit to come back on in those last ten mins could that have given them enough energy to get over the line.

Not with concussion.

It wouldn't be worth the risk. Only a game of football at the end of the day.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 21, 2025, 07:20:41 AM
Out of interest how would people rate/rank Cuala compared to previous Dublin Senior All Ireland champions over the last 20 years?

2023 - Kilmacud Crokes
2016 - Ballyboden St Enda's
2014 - St Vincents
2009 - Kilmacud Crokes
2008 - St Vincents
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on January 21, 2025, 07:31:32 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 20, 2025, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 20, 2025, 10:48:02 PMErrigal actually dropped a free short to get it back to 2 points with a few minutes left. You wonder if Darragh Canavan had been fit to come back on in those last ten mins could that have given them enough energy to get over the line.

Not with concussion.

It wouldn't be worth the risk. Only a game of football at the end of the day.

I wasn't saying that he should have come back on.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 21, 2025, 07:39:41 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 21, 2025, 07:31:32 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 20, 2025, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 20, 2025, 10:48:02 PMErrigal actually dropped a free short to get it back to 2 points with a few minutes left. You wonder if Darragh Canavan had been fit to come back on in those last ten mins could that have given them enough energy to get over the line.

Not with concussion.

It wouldn't be worth the risk. Only a game of football at the end of the day.

I wasn't saying that he should have come back on.
Yeah, think if he had been fit then that last few minutes would have been even more interesting.

 EC did miss a couple of chances late on, think Ruairi snatched at a shot with his left under pressure when he had a runner, and then at the end when Harte makes that good run and the fella he slipped it to gets blocked down by Con, maybe Darragh in those situations is on the ball and takes the right option.

Anyway all ifs and buts, Cuala were deserved winners overall.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2025, 08:41:47 AM
There were two late Conor Gormley blocks in that game at both ends. It was a strange game, while exciting and both showed their quality, they just didn't show their quality at the same time, that would have made it a more outstanding game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 21, 2025, 09:39:32 AM
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 20, 2025, 10:34:33 PM
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Quote from: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AMCuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.



Cannot believe I'm agreeing with tbrick18 on anything, but his last line is absolutely key.

Look at the absolute club kingpins from Ulster as regards the Club Championship (The Rangers).
Yes they had brilliant footballers, don't think I need to name them, but they ( when they were successful) also had plenty of old dogs ( no offence Brokencrossbar) for the hard road.
They could football you off the pitch but they had mem who loved the physical side too.
Any successful team (especially at Club level) needs that.
Yes Oisin  McConville/ Aaron Kernan etc were Rolls Royces of footballers but never underestimate the contributions of the Donal Murtaghs/ John Donaldsons etc.

In my humble opinion Errigal  lacked a bit  of "physical presence ".

Know/ do business with a few from Ballygawley and they'll be gutted today.

None taken....taken as a compliment actually!  Was talking about this last week at training that the core of our team were physically very strong,  12 of our wearing team in excess of 6 foot and well made. We could play anyone at football but if needed we physically dominated.  EC didn't have that yesterday. Physically not up to it and that's not a criticism,  just an observation.

While the come back was excellent a few factors need to be considered. There was the inevitable bounce from
Darraghs injury,  'let's do it for him' approach and that's fine. The only thing is that energy is not sustainable and Cuala were able to keep them somewhat at arms length.

Secondly,  no matter how much you say it doesn't play into your mind Cuala were playing for the final whistle from half time. They were 'managing' the game and I always felt they had the gears to up it if needed. They are a very good team.

With all that said,  and with genuine congratulations to Cuala,  I'd be sitting there as a manager of a senior club team and saying these AIs for winning. I'd say there are 5-6 teams sick this morning thinking 'what if'. While that could be said any year I wouldn't be fearing them if I was playing them next year.

If you're 14 points up and managing the game then you use the extra gears way before it gets down to 3 points in the closing stages. Not credible to suggest otherwise.

Understood but I think they dropped intensity as they were playing for the final whistle and struggled to lift it up when EC went at them initially. They had enough in them though to manage it out. If they score the blocked goal effort they coast on out. If EC come within 2 points anything happens. They were the better balanced team overall and a 3-4 point win probably reflective of the difference between the teams.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: blanketattack on January 24, 2025, 10:38:08 AM
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on January 20, 2025, 12:26:36 PM
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Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me, the balls there and
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 19, 2025, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2025, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me. Player makes a move towards the movement of the ball and Canavan moves to it as well. Accidental in my opinion.

The only way he was going to get the ball was to go through the player. He had zero chance of winning the ball. He was quick enough to get away from the scene

While the knee to head looks poor, only the Cuala player knows if it was deliberate or not.  The fact both Caravans end up in hosp with concussion points to a game plan to target them however.  Could you imagine the media outcry if it was both O'Callaghan's in hosp??

The only difference if the two O'Callaghans had ended up in hospital, is that there would be a post on ReservoirDubs instead of here saying "Could you imagine the media outcry if it was both Canavans's [sic] in hosp??"

And that applies to 99.9% of all these hypothetical scenarios of swapping players/counties around especially scenarios proposed by poor craters from counties whose players would never harm a fly 🙄.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2025, 10:44:57 AM
What did cause Ruairi to be concussed?

(I agree with above post - could have happened either way. This was not exactly a Meath 96 scenario here.)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 25, 2025, 11:04:02 AM
QuoteNo need for the knee to be there at all

You try moving your feet forward without your knee and see how you get on.

Conspiracy theory wankery. Darragh was most certainly not "on the ball already" as is plainly seen in the video. How many teams do you reckon with an 11 point lead after 20 mins think about deliberately kneeing people in the head?

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 25, 2025, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 25, 2025, 11:04:02 AM
QuoteNo need for the knee to be there at all

You try moving your feet forward without your knee and see how you get on.

Conspiracy theory wankery. Darragh was most certainly not "on the ball already" as is plainly seen in the video. How many teams do you reckon with an 11 point lead after 20 mins think about deliberately kneeing people in the head?



 ;D Definitely belongs in the TTMYGWTF (not the reply)
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2025, 02:19:25 PM
Intermediate All Ireland final can be watched on this link.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 25, 2025, 04:27:18 PM
Tg4 has frozen
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2025, 04:29:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 25, 2025, 04:27:18 PMTg4 has frozen

Think it's 8 each? Extra time? Who knows lol
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 25, 2025, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 25, 2025, 04:27:18 PMTg4 has frozen
At least it's not just me. Doing a channel rescan.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 25, 2025, 04:36:01 PM
Galway team by 1pt victory.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2025, 04:58:12 PM
Is tg4 stuffed?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2025, 05:01:34 PM
Quote from: p3427977 on January 25, 2025, 04:36:01 PMGalway team by 1pt victory.

Naomh Padraig 0-8 An Cheathrú Rua (Galway) 0-9 it finished.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Rossfan on January 25, 2025, 05:05:54 PM
Ulster teams still winning everything?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 25, 2025, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 25, 2025, 05:05:54 PMUlster teams still winning everything?
Tyrone lads ruined that run last week.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Easttyrone23 on January 26, 2025, 03:02:50 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 25, 2025, 05:05:54 PMUlster teams still winning everything?

It's good for GAA that Ulster clubs just came up short in the senior and junior finals as it was starting to become a bit embarrassing with Ulster winning everything. Regardless of who wins the intermediate it's great that it won't be a Kerry division 1 club.

What Ulster teams done in 2024 will never even come close to being matched by other provinces. Sam maguire, div 1, u20, minor, sigerdson, hogan cup and all 3 club all Irelands.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 26, 2025, 11:04:48 AM
Is there a problem  with the TG4 player?

Couldn't see the end of  the Junior match yesterday.  And it still is playing up.

Is it just me?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Nanderson on January 26, 2025, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 26, 2025, 11:04:48 AMIs there a problem  with the TG4 player?

Couldn't see the end of  the Junior match yesterday.  And it still is playing up.

Is it just me?
Yes it's looping the 52nd minute of the game yesterday. TG4 been struggling since the storm
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: AustinPowers on January 26, 2025, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on January 26, 2025, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 26, 2025, 11:04:48 AMIs there a problem  with the TG4 player?

Couldn't see the end of  the Junior match yesterday.  And it still is playing up.

Is it just me?
Yes it's looping the 52nd minute of the game yesterday. TG4 been struggling since the storm

Ah ok. It's not just  me then

On another note - our  aerial was damaged. Can't pick up RTE/TG4 on the TV.

Couldn't watch Gal Arm via laptop, said it was blocked. Yet it  worked on the phone via the app. What's going on  there?  :o
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 02:54:29 PM
Stunning f**king about from Ballinderry to concede a last gasp penalty.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tbrick18 on January 26, 2025, 02:55:58 PM
Surely that was charging?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 02:57:23 PM
That was a disgraceful penalty and sending off. The most blatant charging I've ever seen, he literally buried the head and ran clean into the keeper, wtf was the keeper supposed to do?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 26, 2025, 02:58:42 PM
A replay of it would be nice
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 02:58:58 PM
He didn't get a chance to charge before McKinless pulled him down. Ballinderry only themselves to blame.

Some way to finish for Loftus.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 26, 2025, 02:55:58 PMSurely that was charging?

Tried to big Joe it into the goals there rugby style. McKinless, not sure what he could do there tbh, yer man over cooked it surely? Sent off and not allowing Ballinderry a play at the end... Oof
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 26, 2025, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 02:57:23 PMThat was a disgraceful penalty and sending off. The most blatant charging I've ever seen, he literally buried the head and ran clean into the keeper, wtf was the keeper supposed to do?

Don't think they've shown a replay of it which says it all.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tbrick18 on January 26, 2025, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 02:57:23 PMThat was a disgraceful penalty and sending off. The most blatant charging I've ever seen, he literally buried the head and ran clean into the keeper, wtf was the keeper supposed to do?

Agree, very poor call.
In saying that, if ballinderry had hoofed that free out the field it was game over.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 02:58:58 PMHe didn't get a chance to charge before McKinless pulled him down. Ballinderry only themselves to blame.

Some way to finish for Loftus.

Have you seen a replay of it, no idea unless you're there and close to it to make that call? He didn't shoot when he had the chance and ran into McKinless, is that not charging?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 03:01:21 PM
What was McKinless supposed to do? Not bear hug him and pull him to the ground.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 26, 2025, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 02:54:29 PMStunning f**king about from Ballinderry to concede a last gasp penalty.
Was it a penalty? Charged into their keeper.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 26, 2025, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 26, 2025, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 02:57:23 PMThat was a disgraceful penalty and sending off. The most blatant charging I've ever seen, he literally buried the head and ran clean into the keeper, wtf was the keeper supposed to do?

Don't think they've shown a replay of it which says it all.


Just rewind it on YouTube.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 03:02:47 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 02:58:58 PMHe didn't get a chance to charge before McKinless pulled him down. Ballinderry only themselves to blame.

Some way to finish for Loftus.

Have you seen a replay of it, no idea unless you're there and close to it to make that call? He didn't shoot when he had the chance and ran into McKinless, is that not charging?

It's on YouTube, can watch the initial angle as many times as I want. How can I have no idea unless I'm there to make that call but every other fuckwit can be adamant it was a charge FFS. Catch yourself on.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 03:03:03 PM
I don't think the keeper even pulled him down, more the momentum of the froward running straight into him.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: screenexile on January 26, 2025, 03:03:38 PM
Was 100% charging had the ball in his right arm and led with the left shoulder
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2025, 03:04:07 PM
Should have been a free in to Crossmolina for overcarrying before they turned B'Derry player over on that last play

Penalty dodgy enough though

Could argue the forward never even attempted to get a shot off-just charged right at the keeper

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 03:03:03 PMI don't think the keeper even pulled him down, more the momentum of the froward running straight into him.

He wrapped the arms around him and pulled him down.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: lenny on January 26, 2025, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 26, 2025, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 02:57:23 PMThat was a disgraceful penalty and sending off. The most blatant charging I've ever seen, he literally buried the head and ran clean into the keeper, wtf was the keeper supposed to do?

Agree, very poor call.
In saying that, if ballinderry had hoofed that free out the field it was game over.

Didn't look even close to a penalty first viewing. Would like to see a replay. To be fair the ref had a really good game.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: screenexile on January 26, 2025, 03:05:12 PM
https://x.com/brianmckenna26/status/1883530933900632375?s=46&t=phQ2HHkWD0UVsLqr_FKpag

Charging
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2025, 03:04:07 PMShould have been a free in to Crossmolina for overcarrying before they turned B'Derry player over on that last play

Penalty dodgy enough though

Could argue the forward never even attempted to get a shot off-just charged right at the keeper



Seen the replay there, that's exactly what he done.. Awful call by the ref.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: omagh_gael on January 26, 2025, 03:05:26 PM
Just watched it back on YouTube, that is possibly one of the worst calls you'll see from the ref. It was horrendous.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tbrick18 on January 26, 2025, 03:06:21 PM
As clear cut an example of charging that you'll ever see.
Horrible way to get beat.

Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:07:16 PM
Didn't even consult with the umpires re the penalty or the black card / sending off. Poor
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: jb77 on January 26, 2025, 03:09:22 PM
Drops the left shoulder into the keepers chest, holding the ball like he's running for a touchdown but we're fuckwits apparently
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tintin25 on January 26, 2025, 03:09:30 PM
That's as clear as charging as you're ever likely to see
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 03:11:58 PM
"Drops the left shoulder"

McKinless comes out and meets him, bear hugs him and pulls him down.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 26, 2025, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 03:11:58 PM"Drops the left shoulder"

McKinless comes out and meets him, bear hugs him and pulls him down.
Specsavers for you in the morning.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: straightred on January 26, 2025, 03:13:04 PM
Terrible decision. Is the keeper supposed to step out of his way?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:13:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 26, 2025, 03:11:58 PM"Drops the left shoulder"

McKinless comes out and meets him, bear hugs him and pulls him down.

Put the shovel down
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: skeog on January 26, 2025, 03:13:59 PM
Joe Sheridan 2011 all over again.Do you think Crossmalina might give the game to Ballinderry?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 26, 2025, 03:14:08 PM
Glad to see Crossmolina win but that was an absolutely disgraceful decision to give a penalty for that.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: tyroneStatto on January 26, 2025, 03:17:57 PM
Thought the free to equalise for Crossmolina at end of first half was also a bad call.

Ballinderry will be sick.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:37:12 PM
He gave the ref a decision to make, it's not your stereotypical charge to be fair, he did collect the ball on the small square so 4 steps takes you to goal line, not sure what defender can do also but he clearly wraps him though
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 26, 2025, 03:40:39 PM
That's actually a free out. Lad run straight over the keeper, ref should checked with the empires. Bad call.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 26, 2025, 03:40:52 PM
So delighted for Crossmolina. They've been through a terrible couple of weeks - for Conor Loftus to score the winning the goal with practically the last kick of the game is just incredible. 
Thought they were the better team and should have had at least two goals before that.
On the penalty, its not like he had loads of time to have taken a shot, he was right on top of the goalie as he got it. Debatable whether he charged into goalie, but the goalies arms did seem to be around him which probably made up the refs mind.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 26, 2025, 03:46:18 PM
Replays would showed its an obvious charge. Tough time for Loftus. Wasn't sure he even be playing.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:37:12 PMHe gave the ref a decision to make, it's not your stereotypical charge to be fair, he did collect the ball on the small square so 4 steps takes you to goal line, not sure what defender can do also but he clearly wraps him though

Who gave the ref a decision to make? It's as bad a call as you'll see. Wrapping him, what do you when someone comes at you full pelt, keep your arms out stretched and take the collision full on or try and soften it?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 26, 2025, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 26, 2025, 03:46:18 PMReplays would showed its an obvious charge. Tough time for Loftus. Wasn't sure he even be playing.

Yeah, looked at replay there. Definitely looked more like barging than a foul.
couldn't begrudge crossmolina, although obviously very hard for ballinderry to swallow.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Halfquarter on January 26, 2025, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: skeog on January 26, 2025, 03:13:59 PMJoe Sheridan 2011 all over again.Do you think Crossmalina might give the game to Ballinderry?

Certainly nothing l8ke the Joe Sheridan incident, I don't know where you are getting that from? I didn't see anyone throwing the ball into the net .
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:37:12 PMHe gave the ref a decision to make, it's not your stereotypical charge to be fair, he did collect the ball on the small square so 4 steps takes you to goal line, not sure what defender can do also but he clearly wraps him though

Who gave the ref a decision to make? It's as bad a call as you'll see. Wrapping him, what do you when someone comes at you full pelt, keep your arms out stretched and take the collision full on or try and soften it?

Regardless of that barge, the tackling of a player is shoulder to shoulder any other physical 'tackle' is a foul. The decision was will I blow for charging or will I blow for wrapping arms around player.. he didn't in this occasion have his arms outstretched
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:37:12 PMHe gave the ref a decision to make, it's not your stereotypical charge to be fair, he did collect the ball on the small square so 4 steps takes you to goal line, not sure what defender can do also but he clearly wraps him though

Who gave the ref a decision to make? It's as bad a call as you'll see. Wrapping him, what do you when someone comes at you full pelt, keep your arms out stretched and take the collision full on or try and soften it?

Regardless of that barge, the tackling of a player is shoulder to shoulder any other physical 'tackle' is a foul. The decision was will I blow for charging or will I blow for wrapping arms around player.. he didn't in this occasion have his arms outstretched

The only decision for the ref to make was a free out.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:37:12 PMHe gave the ref a decision to make, it's not your stereotypical charge to be fair, he did collect the ball on the small square so 4 steps takes you to goal line, not sure what defender can do also but he clearly wraps him though

Who gave the ref a decision to make? It's as bad a call as you'll see. Wrapping him, what do you when someone comes at you full pelt, keep your arms out stretched and take the collision full on or try and soften it?

Regardless of that barge, the tackling of a player is shoulder to shoulder any other physical 'tackle' is a foul. The decision was will I blow for charging or will I blow for wrapping arms around player.. he didn't in this occasion have his arms outstretched

The only decision for the ref to make was a free out.

I think he made a mistake or at least certainly rushed his decision.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 03:37:12 PMHe gave the ref a decision to make, it's not your stereotypical charge to be fair, he did collect the ball on the small square so 4 steps takes you to goal line, not sure what defender can do also but he clearly wraps him though

Who gave the ref a decision to make? It's as bad a call as you'll see. Wrapping him, what do you when someone comes at you full pelt, keep your arms out stretched and take the collision full on or try and soften it?

Regardless of that barge, the tackling of a player is shoulder to shoulder any other physical 'tackle' is a foul. The decision was will I blow for charging or will I blow for wrapping arms around player.. he didn't in this occasion have his arms outstretched

The only decision for the ref to make was a free out.

I think he made a mistake or at least certainly rushed his decision.

Agreed.. End of an AI final, take a breath, consult your umpires
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 26, 2025, 04:25:07 PM
Jesus that was never a penalty, drops the shoulder and runs straight into the man, not sure if he was supposed to magically disappear or just step aside or what.

Fair play to Loftus for even being there today, can't imagine what the lad has been through and fitting for him to score the winner. Ballinderry will be sick though.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Brendan on January 26, 2025, 04:34:47 PM
Jesus boys that was scandalous against Ballinderry
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: GTP on January 26, 2025, 04:36:06 PM
Didn't think it was a penalty on first viewing and can't see anything to change opinion based on the replay. Not sure what the forward was doing and why he didn't shoot. Although worked out well for Crossmolina. Ballinderry should have cleared their lines with the last free.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: statto on January 26, 2025, 04:46:13 PM
Awful decision charging all day long delighted loftus tucked it away man must went through hell the last few weeks.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Halfquarter on January 26, 2025, 04:57:15 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 26, 2025, 04:25:07 PMJesus that was never a penalty, drops the shoulder and runs straight into the man, not sure if he was supposed to magically disappear or just step aside or what.

Fair play to Loftus for even being there today, can't imagine what the lad has been through and fitting for him to score the winner. Ballinderry will be sick though.

Ah now ! Drop's the shoulder ? That definitely didn't happen.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 26, 2025, 05:48:26 PM
Wrong decision.

Cut & dried charging.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: p3427977 on January 26, 2025, 05:50:24 PM
When's the replay?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 26, 2025, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: p3427977 on January 26, 2025, 05:50:24 PMWhen's the replay?
Be no replay, Ballinderry took their defeat in a sporting manner. Dreadful decision but thems the breaks. Maybe was meant to be...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on January 26, 2025, 07:30:54 PM

Dreadful decision. Charge all day long ffs. What's the keeper to do - move out of the way?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 26, 2025, 07:30:54 PMDreadful decision. Charge all day long ffs. What's the keeper to do - move out of the way?

If he had have the 'goal' would have been disallowed
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: DuffleKing on January 26, 2025, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 26, 2025, 07:30:54 PMDreadful decision. Charge all day long ffs. What's the keeper to do - move out of the way?

If he had have the 'goal' would have been disallowed

Jeez. You'd expect the keeper to move out of the way and hope the ball carrier would carry it over the line?

People say a lot of refs are ot of touch with the game and players. Don't see it myself...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Truthsayer on January 26, 2025, 08:01:40 PM
How do u move out of the way of someone charging into you from a couple yards? You'd automatically wrap him to stop falling over. Can't understand why forward didn't drop ball onto his foot and roll it in.. or maybe cute enough knew outcome of charging.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 08:05:50 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 26, 2025, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 26, 2025, 07:30:54 PMDreadful decision. Charge all day long ffs. What's the keeper to do - move out of the way?

If he had have the 'goal' would have been disallowed

Jeez. You'd expect the keeper to move out of the way and hope the ball carrier would carry it over the line?

People say a lot of refs are ot of touch with the game and players. Don't see it myself...

I'm taking the piss, but yeah no ref's ever played before so completely outta touch with the game, players and posters on the GAA board
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 26, 2025, 08:31:37 PM
Now Milltown, I see on sports joe ie, and I recognise 3 names as refs, in my time, and they all say it was charging.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 08:42:57 PM
Now wildweasle74 if you care to look back, I said he made a mistake

But in all the mud slinging that's lost
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2025, 09:00:33 PM
Only saw this on twitter. That's an awful decision.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2025, 09:09:50 PM
Congratulations to Crossmolina I tipped them to win this All-Ireland before the All Ireland series started. Fitted that Conor Loftus was the match winner. Huge slice of luck to get that penalty but a bit of luck well deserved after such a horrible few weeks for the club.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Norm-Peterson on January 26, 2025, 10:51:28 PM
Ballinderry handled their defeat well given their history and reputation.

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/three-ballinderry-players-banned-and-pitch-closed-after-county-final-debacle-2259449
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 26, 2025, 11:00:02 PM
Done well putting that up u clown, saying one of those lads died a few yrs bck.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Halfquarter on January 26, 2025, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 26, 2025, 08:01:40 PMHow do u move out of the way of someone charging into you from a couple yards? You'd automatically wrap him to stop falling over. Can't understand why forward didn't drop ball onto his foot and roll it in.. or maybe cute enough knew outcome of charging.

Maybe he was just 'breaking the tackle'.
Does anybody know the difference between 'charging' and 'breaking the tackle'?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2025, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on January 26, 2025, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 26, 2025, 08:01:40 PMHow do u move out of the way of someone charging into you from a couple yards? You'd automatically wrap him to stop falling over. Can't understand why forward didn't drop ball onto his foot and roll it in.. or maybe cute enough knew outcome of charging.

Maybe he was just 'breaking the tackle'.
Does anybody know the difference between 'charging' and 'breaking the tackle'?


I'd say 99% of those who watch / play do. My wife does neither, she probably knows. Would have made a tigerish corner back in her day, but that's a story for another day
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: OakLeaf on January 27, 2025, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on January 26, 2025, 10:51:28 PMBallinderry handled their defeat well given their history and reputation.

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/three-ballinderry-players-banned-and-pitch-closed-after-county-final-debacle-2259449

Very sad man. Poor form.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: downtothecore on January 27, 2025, 06:47:49 AM
It's great for crossmolina given what they have been through this last few weeks

But,

 Its a terrible decision for he penalty. Ballinderry will deservedly be angry at this...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: general_lee on January 27, 2025, 10:39:16 AM
Terrible decision, one of the worst I have ever seen, Ballinderry very magnanimous in defeat. Fair play to Conor Loftus all the same, some character shown by him.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 27, 2025, 10:45:35 AM
Think the last two posts sum things up perfectly for 90% of us
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: HiMucker on January 27, 2025, 10:58:46 AM
Am I the only one who thinks it wasn't charging or a penalty either?
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 27, 2025, 11:11:29 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 27, 2025, 10:58:46 AMAm I the only one who thinks it wasn't charging or a penalty either?

No, there's a shovel floating about the thread if you want a lend 'Mucker
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: whitey on January 27, 2025, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 27, 2025, 10:58:46 AMAm I the only one who thinks it wasn't charging or a penalty either?

I'd say 7/10 times that penalty wouldn't have been given

On the other hand, the B'Derry player (who was dispossessed) took about 15 steps before he coughed it up. Stonewall free in not given to Crossmolina to tie it up
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: skeog on January 27, 2025, 01:00:51 PM
What a warrior is6 Gareth Mc Kinless played whole game with torn ACL apparently.
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: SaffronSports on January 27, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: skeog on January 27, 2025, 01:00:51 PMWhat a warrior is6 Gareth Mc Kinless played whole game with torn ACL apparently.

Brutal going through that only for a referee to hand the opposition an All Ireland
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Tubberman on January 27, 2025, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 27, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: skeog on January 27, 2025, 01:00:51 PMWhat a warrior is6 Gareth Mc Kinless played whole game with torn ACL apparently.

Brutal going through that only for a referee to hand the opposition an All Ireland

I think Crossmolina played a part as well...
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:02:44 PM
I've been saying it on here for years

The Democrats are so bad they actually make the Republicans look good

https://nypost.com/2025/01/25/entertainment/stephen-a-smith-torches-democrats-praises-trump-in-fiery-bill-maher-appearance-hes-closer-to-normal-than-what-were-seeing-on-the-left/
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: JoG2 on January 28, 2025, 03:30:11 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:02:44 PMI've been saying it on here for years

The Democrats are so bad they actually make the Republicans look good

https://nypost.com/2025/01/25/entertainment/stephen-a-smith-torches-democrats-praises-trump-in-fiery-bill-maher-appearance-hes-closer-to-normal-than-what-were-seeing-on-the-left/

Not only do you not post about the GAA on a GAA forum, you post your bulldung American politics guff in the GAA section  8)

#modshousekeepingp45
Title: Re: All Ireland Club Championships 2024
Post by: Armagh18 on January 28, 2025, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2025, 03:02:44 PMI've been saying it on here for years

The Democrats are so bad they actually make the Republicans look good

https://nypost.com/2025/01/25/entertainment/stephen-a-smith-torches-democrats-praises-trump-in-fiery-bill-maher-appearance-hes-closer-to-normal-than-what-were-seeing-on-the-left/
They'll hardly even win the county next year nevermind worry about All Irelands
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