Could take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
I think it is only on BBC NI so not across homes in GB. Yes they could watch on the iPlayer but it isn't something they would come upon flicking through the channels.
Can we petition to have yesterdays co-comm in instead of Philly "put you to sleep" McMahon.??
Quote from: 5times5times on July 22, 2024, 10:03:33 AMCan we petition to have yesterdays co-comm in instead of Philly "put you to sleep" McMahon.??
I really like Philly McMahon. He comes across quite raw and kinda blurts out what he sees which i like. Agree he can be quite monotone
Quote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
From July 2023
QuoteFollowing Sky Sports' departure, BBC Northern Ireland got rights last year to broadcast the All-Ireland semi-finals and finals in hurling and football, as well as the Ulster football championship.
The games have also been available on the iPlayer. But part of that arrangement included coverage across the network of one of the finals, opening up the games to the 27 million households in Britain that have televisions.
However, Sunday's All-Ireland hurling final between Limerick and Kilkenny will only be shown on BBC Northern Ireland. The GAA said last year that BBC would alternate coverage of the finals on the network over the five years of the current arrangement.
That's means the football final will not be live on BBC in Britain this weekend?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2024, 07:00:45 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
How about the GAA do something to promote hurling instead of relying on the BBC?
Start a process to give every child in every county in Ireland a chance to play hurling.
That'd be a start.
The GAA have their cosy 7 to 8 Elite counties in Hurling. They'd like to see Dublin in that group, as it has the population and the money. After that they and the Hurling fraternity don't care, why should they.
Quote from: marty34 on July 22, 2024, 08:32:19 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2024, 07:00:45 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
How about the GAA do something to promote hurling instead of relying on the BBC?
Start a process to give every child in every county in Ireland a chance to play hurling.
That'd be a start.
1 - The GAA is not a broadcaster and doesn't have the expertise to do its own broadcasting in-house. The job of publicising the games on TV has to go to outside organisations, be it Sky or the BBC.
2 - There has been a huge push to promote both codes with full-time development officers up and down the country and worldwide. But if you have ideas for what to do that isn't already being done then I'm all ears.
Quote from: marty34 on July 22, 2024, 08:32:19 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2024, 07:00:45 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
How about the GAA do something to promote hurling instead of relying on the BBC?
Start a process to give every child in every county in Ireland a chance to play hurling.
That'd be a start.
Regale to me the season of Kilkenny footballers there til I get a laugh
Glass houses and stones spring to mind
The one truth in this world is that none can accuse Niblock of being a master of the understatement.
Coverage was very good and refreshing. Great for the GAA community across the water. Not sure how much long term value in the "new audience" although many intrigued by the social media response from ESW.
One thing that has frustrated me in recent years is that BBC's GAA coverage has completely disappeared from Radio Ulster. We used to get excellent coverage of inter-county and Ulster club games with Owen McConnon, Ger Treacy and Brian Canavan. That is completely gone and it feels like any coverage we get is online where you'll only find it if you go looking for it. Albeit, they'll televise some more games.
Meanwhile, Saturday on Radio Ulster is wall-to-wall Irish league and rugby. Gaelic was always relegated to MW previously with these other sports on FM. Since they done away with MW, we haven't had any radio coverage.
Quote from: tiempo on July 23, 2024, 12:34:37 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 22, 2024, 08:32:19 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2024, 07:00:45 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
How about the GAA do something to promote hurling instead of relying on the BBC?
Start a process to give every child in every county in Ireland a chance to play hurling.
That'd be a start.
Regale to me the season of Kilkenny footballers there til I get a laugh
Glass houses and stones spring to mind
For every Kilkenny I'll give you Leitrim Cavan Monaghan and the rest who's county's boards are paying lip service to hurling
Well is it not worse that it looked like the organisation tried to shut them down too?
I know we all love a pat on the back about how great our games are, but who cares what the English think of it ?
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 23, 2024, 09:18:39 AMI know we all love a pat on the back about how great our games are, but who cares what the English think of it ?
Growth, growing the games with our ex pats in the UK is great, and in the US..
Recently did under 14 feile this year in Ballymena with a team over from England and while their standard wasn't great they had some tasty hurlers on display, and the passion from the sideline was unbridled so while we know the game is unmatched I'd still like to see that others not just the UK public but the world get a chance to watch that final or this season
Netflix missing out on a great chance to give us something similar to the Drive to Survive or Point Break or Full Swing shows they have on, the one they did for Rugby was very good also..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2024, 07:37:54 AMQuote from: tiempo on July 23, 2024, 12:34:37 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 22, 2024, 08:32:19 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2024, 07:00:45 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
How about the GAA do something to promote hurling instead of relying on the BBC?
Start a process to give every child in every county in Ireland a chance to play hurling.
That'd be a start.
Regale to me the season of Kilkenny footballers there til I get a laugh
Glass houses and stones spring to mind
For every Kilkenny I'll give you Leitrim Cavan Monaghan and the rest who's county's boards are paying lip service to hurling
They literally won an All-Ireland with an Iraqi refugee, he scored in the final at Croke, maybe the opposition players let him as a token gesture or maybe they won on their merits?
If it was a race to the bottom for showing blatant disrespect to national games then Kilkenny's attitude to football takes number 1 spot
Quote from: tiempo on July 23, 2024, 09:51:34 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2024, 07:37:54 AMQuote from: tiempo on July 23, 2024, 12:34:37 AMQuote from: marty34 on July 22, 2024, 08:32:19 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2024, 07:00:45 PMQuote from: tiempo on July 22, 2024, 09:27:49 AMCould take or leave large parts of the coverage. Presenters, guests, commentators, etc. can be like marmite. But here's the thing...
Something has changed, someone has expertly influenced the BBC to put the hurling final on BBC2 and therefore into homes across Britain. This is not normal. Barriers have been broken down, executives have been enlightened. Its very refreshing and we should enjoy the moment, it might not last.
A huge congratulations to whoever set out to achieve this, and I expect it took a few well placed Gaels in various roles inside and outside the BBC to get this over the line.
Now lets all hope Armagh can win on Sunday so we get to hear Tommy Nibs wordsmith a pitch invasion!
Indeed. I would suspect that the channels of BBC NI were bypassed for this. You know them boys would rather show an Irish League soccer match attended by two men and a dog than a GAA match with 82,000 people at it. BBC executives in England would be more open to listen than the ones in Belfast.
Jerome Quinn was probably on to something when he criticised them for being bigots.
I said years ago that the GAA could be pushing on an open door if it wanted to get hurling onto mainstream TV outside of Ireland, and if not then they should be willing to pay to get the games shown. New audiences consistently love the game.
How about the GAA do something to promote hurling instead of relying on the BBC?
Start a process to give every child in every county in Ireland a chance to play hurling.
That'd be a start.
Regale to me the season of Kilkenny footballers there til I get a laugh
Glass houses and stones spring to mind
For every Kilkenny I'll give you Leitrim Cavan Monaghan and the rest who's county's boards are paying lip service to hurling
They literally won an All-Ireland with an Iraqi refugee, he scored in the final at Croke, maybe the opposition players let him as a token gesture or maybe they won on their merits?
If it was a race to the bottom for showing blatant disrespect to national games then Kilkenny's attitude to football takes number 1 spot
It doesn't change my point, these counties and more do little to nothing in promoting hurling in their county. And yes the top hurling counties don't give a stuff as long as they are sitting at the top table
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 23, 2024, 09:18:39 AMI know we all love a pat on the back about how great our games are, but who cares what the English think of it ?
A lot of English kids play GAA and what they think matters
Extra time forced a delay to Antiques Roadshow on the most British of institutions, a cohort of committed Gaels have built the necessary bridges to make this happen which is an incredibly positive sign of change in attitudes towards Ireland
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2024, 09:57:17 AMIt doesn't change my point, these counties and more do little to nothing in promoting hurling in their county. And yes the top hurling counties don't give a stuff as long as they are sitting at the top table
Will have to agree to disagree, entering a NHL and Championship (a) takes effort for the year in question and (b) is only possible with a base of players brought through from grassroots, which must have come from promoting the game, despite their limitations compared to the top tier they are prepared to go out and have a go
From John Fogarty in todays Irish Examiner
"Only when they view hurling vicariously like this past Sunday is the GAA reminded what a cultural asset is has. It shouldn't need fresh eyes for us to appreciate what we have but there we were on social media on Sunday luxuriating like Sally Field in an Oscar acceptance speech that the Brits love our game, they really love our game.
If we really loved hurling, we wouldn't need such cheap validation. If hurling was truly loved, it wouldn't need development committee after development committee."
Any official viewer figures from BBC yet?
Quote from: square_ball on July 23, 2024, 10:34:49 AMAny official viewer figures from BBC yet?
Over a million on RTE I read, which I think is a record for a final