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Title: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on May 13, 2024, 01:03:55 AM
Group 3:

18/19 May: Clare v Cork

25/26 May: Donegal v Tyrone

1/2 June: Cork v Donegal, Tyrone v Clare

15/16 June (Neutral venue): Donegal v Clare, Tyrone v Cork
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on May 13, 2024, 01:39:32 AM
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28.07.2024 (Sun) | (Replay: 10.08.2024 (Sat))

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(v) A Play-Off
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on May 13, 2024, 11:03:27 AM
Fancy Tyrone to beat Donegal to top spot. Few weeks training will have them primed to turn over Donegal.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on May 14, 2024, 03:33:37 PM
Saturday 25th Donegal v Tyrone, MacCumhaill Park, 7.15pm, GAAGO
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tiempo on May 14, 2024, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 13, 2024, 11:03:27 AMFancy Tyrone to beat Donegal to top spot. Few weeks training will have them primed to turn over Donegal.

Will Throne give Donegal a guard of honour on to the field, and will Donegal return the faovour on the way off 😉

And would that make Tyrone lineal Ulster Champs?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on May 14, 2024, 04:51:43 PM
At least, unlike last year, we'll have a big, enthusiastic Donegal crowd and a confident, motivated team!

There'll be nothing in this again. A point or three either way. Hopefully a calm, still day for our long range shooters!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: LeoMc on May 16, 2024, 07:52:07 PM
Any word of tickets or group tickets yet?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on May 18, 2024, 06:44:21 PM
Cork 1-6 Clare 0-4 half time.

Result Cork: 1-13  Clare: 1-11
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on May 22, 2024, 04:10:52 PM
Not much word about this group yet!

Do Tyrone have the likes of Harte and Meyler coming back?

I'm assuming Kilpatrick is fully fit now?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PM
Was talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 22, 2024, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMWas talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Clare given the huge player turnover and losing a good and long term manager have been more competitive than I expected them to be in the league and championship this year. That was a high stakes game last weekend with both probably knowing the loser could be facing a group stage exit so for matches like that they don't tend to be great in quality.

Kerry's last two championship games against Cork was won by a margin of 2 and 3 points and last year Cork beat two Div 1 teams in Roscommon and Mayo.  With that in mind shouldn't they be able to give Donegal and Tyrone competitive games? and depending on the draw they should be capable of beating a few teams in the play off round to reach what would be their 3rd All Ireland quarter final in a row.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on May 22, 2024, 10:52:46 PM
Round 2 games

Saturday 1st of June

Cork v Donegal in Pairc ui rinn at 2:30pm

Sunday 2nd of June

Tyrone v Clare in Healy Park at 1:30pm
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on May 23, 2024, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 22, 2024, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMWas talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Clare given the huge player turnover and losing a good and long term manager have been more competitive than I expected them to be in the league and championship this year. That was a high stakes game last weekend with both probably knowing the loser could be facing a group stage exit so for matches like that they don't tend to be great in quality.

Kerry's last two championship games against Cork was won by a margin of 2 and 3 points and last year Cork beat two Div 1 teams in Roscommon and Mayo.  With that in mind shouldn't they be able to give Donegal and Tyrone competitive games? and depending on the draw they should be capable of beating a few teams in the play off round to reach what would be their 3rd All Ireland quarter final in a row.

I'm expecting a very tough game for Donegal down in Cork. Could be under serious pressure too if we lose to Tyrone on Saturday.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: twohands!!! on May 24, 2024, 08:33:13 AM
To follow up on the comments about Clare Cork game - basically the person I was talking to said both sides played poorly with Cork just about getting over the line.

They did mention Cork's shooting was very poor including one horrendous miss from Hurley for what was a tap-over free.  They said the Clare forward (can't think of his name) who had a great game against Kerry was well marked and Clare seemed to have very little in the way of attacking ideas once he was kept quiet. Maybe it was an off day for both sides but my friend was not impressed with either team.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on May 24, 2024, 09:25:33 AM
Cork are a funny team. So inconsistent.

But when you look at their team player by player they have some great man markers; loads of pace a strong midfield and 3 or 4 scoring forwards. Not sure on their keeper options though.

So the ingredients are there for a top side; just waiting on them to deliver on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on May 24, 2024, 12:45:45 PM
1. Niall Morgan
2. Niall Devlin
3. Padraig Hampsey
4. Michael McKernan
5. Ben Cullen
6. Matthew Donnelly
7. Kieran McGeary
8. Brian Kennedy
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Ciarán Daly
11. Michael O'Neill
12. Seanie O'Donnell
13. Darren McCurry
14. Darragh Canavan
15. Ruairi Canavan

Subs:
16. Oisin O'Kane
17. Aidan Clarke
18. Cormaic Donnelly
19. Peter Harte
20. Dalaigh Jones
21. Nathan McCarron
22. Lorcan McGarrity
23. Cathal McShane
24. Joe Oguz
25. Cormac Quinn
26. Tiarnan Quinn
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 24, 2024, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2024, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 22, 2024, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMWas talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Clare given the huge player turnover and losing a good and long term manager have been more competitive than I expected them to be in the league and championship this year. That was a high stakes game last weekend with both probably knowing the loser could be facing a group stage exit so for matches like that they don't tend to be great in quality.

Kerry's last two championship games against Cork was won by a margin of 2 and 3 points and last year Cork beat two Div 1 teams in Roscommon and Mayo.  With that in mind shouldn't they be able to give Donegal and Tyrone competitive games? and depending on the draw they should be capable of beating a few teams in the play off round to reach what would be their 3rd All Ireland quarter final in a row.

I'm expecting a very tough game for Donegal down in Cork. Could be under serious pressure too if we lose to Tyrone on Saturday.

Donegal v Tyrone should be a real bruising and energy sapping game and what needs to be factored in is it's just a 7 day turnaround for Donegal before they play Cork away who have two weeks to prepare. 
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2024, 07:46:54 PM
Tyrone should be winning. A few wayward wides costing them.

Though Donegal catching up there.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Truthsayer on May 25, 2024, 07:49:13 PM
Jees! Joe McQuillan 🤨
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: RedHand88 on May 25, 2024, 07:49:42 PM
Oh Joe. Joe Joe Joe....
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2024, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 25, 2024, 07:48:53 PMSome catch by Morgan but what was he supposed to do when he fell awkwardly? Very soft free in.

It's still a foul though.

The Langland one wasn't at all.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2024, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 25, 2024, 07:48:53 PMSome catch by Morgan but what was he supposed to do when he fell awkwardly? Very soft free in.
Some fetch but he then lifted the ball clean off the ground not sure what McQuillan was to do
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Truthsayer on May 25, 2024, 07:51:51 PM
The next free he gave Donegal was dreadful decision...
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: red hander on May 25, 2024, 07:52:11 PM
Good game being spoilt by shit refereeing
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2024, 07:52:34 PM
Evened up there with a dodgy free to Tyrone...
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Truthsayer on May 25, 2024, 07:53:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2024, 07:52:34 PMEvened up there with a dodgy free to Tyrone...
True...
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2024, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 25, 2024, 07:51:51 PMThe next free he gave Donegal was dreadful decision...
The Langan one? Brutal. McCurry after getting a very soft one as well.

Very little between these two again, a point apiece is possible.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on May 25, 2024, 07:55:14 PM
Good game. Draw written all over it.

McQuillan dishing out a couple of soft frees both ways at the end there. ;D
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Derryman forever on May 25, 2024, 07:56:12 PM
Was that last score between the posts?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: red hander on May 25, 2024, 08:24:35 PM
Does the commentator not know the 'h' in Thompson is silent?  :-\
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on May 25, 2024, 08:47:02 PM
Is this a step up in performance in Donegal from their Ulster displays.

Seem to be playing with alot more pace and intensity.

With the obvious exception of the Derry game.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: thewobbler on May 25, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
The year is 2038.

Tyrone are tailing off in a tight affair.

There's 15 mins to go.

Cathal McShane comes on.

Tyrone continue tailing off.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2024, 08:49:43 PM
Donegal just much better. Thought Tyrone were going to really put it up to them but have really dropped off.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on May 25, 2024, 08:51:41 PM
Donegal relentless pace.

The only criticism id have of them is they don't seem to be able to manufacturer the goal chances that RG's Derry could when running in numbers and at pace.

Butchered a few this evening.

Something to work on.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PM
I think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: red hander on May 25, 2024, 08:51:57 PM
No complaints, Donegal flying. Serious challengers this year, wish them well.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: square_ball on May 25, 2024, 08:59:19 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 25, 2024, 08:48:15 PMThe year is 2038.

Tyrone are tailing off in a tight affair.

There's 15 mins to go.

Cathal McShane comes on.

Tyrone continue tailing off.


And Tyrones sole attacking game plan will still be centred on an offspring of the Canavans trying to beat 3 men and hoping he comes up with a bit of magic.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: joemamas on May 25, 2024, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: red hander on May 25, 2024, 08:51:57 PMNo complaints, Donegal flying. Serious challengers this year, wish them well.

Yes they are, at this juncture only Dublin can beat them , Maybe Kerry, just Maybe.
They just seemed sharper all over the field.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on May 25, 2024, 09:05:00 PM
Donegals best performance since win against Derry. In a very good position to top the group now and would have to fancy them to reach the last 4 for the first time in a decade which was last done under McGuinness.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on May 25, 2024, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PMI think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.

Wha..?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on May 26, 2024, 12:05:52 AM
Great performance. Honestly wasn't expecting to win that so relatively easily, especially after playing very well in the first half but Tyrone still staying with us. Thought we then blew a few chances to drive it home with about 15 minutes left and feared Tyrone might make it a tight finish again, but fair fucks to the lads, they killed it off. Best performance of his career for Langan, while the runners like Mogan and Ban were superb. Some swing from the game last summer! Tyrone will have some side in the next few years though once all those youngsters get a bit of senior experience under their belt.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tonto1888 on May 26, 2024, 08:51:04 AM
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 25, 2024, 08:28:10 PMMcHugh going down holding his face there embarrassing.

Par for the course with him
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: RedHand88 on May 26, 2024, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 25, 2024, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PMI think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.

Wha..?

Pay no heed. Donegal deserved winners today. That second half performance was Dublin-esque. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 26, 2024, 11:00:33 AM
Donegal last year compared to this year under Jim McGuinness are prime example to any top 8/10 team how they can improved once it has structure organisation, top level fitness from hard winter training and each and every player buying into a system of play.   With Cork and Clare to come that game yesterday was basically a table topper and the manner and margin of victory yesterday was impressive and it's rarely easy to beat the same Div 1 team twice in a matter of weeks.

 
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: From the Bunker on May 26, 2024, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 26, 2024, 11:00:33 AMDonegal last year compared to this year under Jim McGuinness are prime example to any top 8/10 team how they can improved once it has structure organisation, top level fitness from hard winter training and each and every player buying into a system of play.   With Cork and Clare to come that game yesterday was basically a table topper and the manner and margin of victory yesterday was impressive and it's rarely easy to beat the same Div 1 team twice in a matter of weeks.

Cork could be tricky.They are a decent side. And it's an away fixture on the other side of the country.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 26, 2024, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2024, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 26, 2024, 11:00:33 AMDonegal last year compared to this year under Jim McGuinness are prime example to any top 8/10 team how they can improved once it has structure organisation, top level fitness from hard winter training and each and every player buying into a system of play.   With Cork and Clare to come that game yesterday was basically a table topper and the manner and margin of victory yesterday was impressive and it's rarely easy to beat the same Div 1 team twice in a matter of weeks.

Cork could be tricky.They are a decent side. And it's an away fixture on the other side of the country.

The 7 day turn around for Donegal and Cork rested for 14 days is what could make it tricky but I think the confidence Donegal will take from yesterdays win and their fitness/conditioning should be make it alright for them.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: MC on May 26, 2024, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 26, 2024, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 25, 2024, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PMI think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.

Wha..?

Pay no heed. Donegal deserved winners today. That second half performance was Dublin-esque. Congratulations.

Ref made some strange calls for/against both teams - possibly slightly more fortunate for Donegal - but not the reason for the result. Tyrone were not particularly poor but Donegal were very good. I thought they looked fairly average with everyone else in the UC but they raised it a level for this game.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on May 28, 2024, 03:28:53 PM
Donegal are the only unbeaten team in league and championship this year. P12 W11 D1  F225  A164

Donegal last year after 12 league and championship games.  W3 D1 L8  F154 A206
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: armaghniac on May 28, 2024, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2024, 03:28:53 PMDonegal are the only unbeaten team in league and championship this year. P12 W11 D1  F225  A164

Donegal last year after 12 league and championship games.  W3 D1 L8  F154 A206

10 wins in games and 1 in a penalty competition.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2024, 11:26:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 28, 2024, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2024, 03:28:53 PMDonegal are the only unbeaten team in league and championship this year. P12 W11 D1  F225  A164

Donegal last year after 12 league and championship games.  W3 D1 L8  F154 A206

10 wins in games and 1 in a penalty competition.

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Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 28, 2024, 11:33:12 PM
Man let it go!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: statto on June 01, 2024, 01:42:34 PM
Looking at the gaago games surely Donegal and cork would have been a better pick today rather than a facile Dublin won in cavan.also putting Sligo v antrim on tomorrow at the same time as Derry v Armagh which will get limited viewing from neutrals.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: armaghniac on June 01, 2024, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: statto on June 01, 2024, 01:42:34 PMLooking at the gaago games surely Donegal and cork would have been a better pick today rather than a facile Dublin won in cavan.also putting Sligo v antrim on tomorrow at the same time as Derry v Armagh which will get limited viewing from neutrals.

Of course you are correct and tomorrow even the Sligo manger's family will be watching Armagh.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: inroundthesquare on June 01, 2024, 02:46:10 PM
Martin McHugh fairly laying into Gallen on the radio coverage
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:22:42 PM
Half time Cork 1-4 Donegal 0-9
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:31:57 PM
Two quick goals at the start of the second half for Cork. Donegal in a bit of bother. Getting turned over quite a bit.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:32:25 PM
3-4 0-9
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: armaghniac on June 01, 2024, 03:32:48 PM
Cork 3-04 Donegal 0-09 a few minutes into the second half.
Donegal a bit relaxed and let in 2 goals!

Of course Donegal can come back from a deficit, as Armagh knows.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:34:37 PM
Perfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.

Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.

Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them

Who said that?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.

Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them

Who said that?

Kerry / Donegal / Dublin, everywhere you read... And me!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.

Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them

Who said that?

Kerry / Donegal / Dublin, everywhere you read... And me!

Most coverage I've heard predicted a tough game for Donegal at PuR.

If they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?

3-6 0-12
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.

Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them

Back to a one score game now regardless what happens it appears Two hands and whoever that someone he was talking too was underestimating Cork it seems.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?


Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?


Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.

So it's scoring difference and not head to head to break ties?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?


Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.

So it's scoring difference and not head to head to break ties?

Scoring difference if three finish on the same points.

Five minutes to play Cork 3-7 Donegal 0-15

Level game!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:56:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?


Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.

So it's scoring difference and not head to head to break ties?

Scoring difference if three finish on the same points.

Well Donegal would need Tyrone to beat Cork. Presumably they'd also beat Clare. In which case all three would have four points. So Donegal need to pull this back.

Point in it.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 03:58:36 PM
Level.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 04:01:06 PM
Cork one in front again going into added time.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 04:01:35 PM
Cork one up after McGonagle called for overcarrying.

3-8 to 0-16
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 04:06:02 PM
2 in it in the end
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: OakLeaf on June 01, 2024, 04:07:14 PM
Bit of a surprise that one.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2024, 04:08:19 PM
Like their hurlers a few weeks ago a big win for Cork footballers today.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: screenexile on June 01, 2024, 04:08:24 PM
Massive result for Cork they have to be favourites for top spot after that!

Listened to Smaller Fish and to be fair Wooly called it with no rivalry and the hassle of getting to Cork etc Donegal were there for the taking!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 04:08:33 PM
Cork win by two. Donegal blew a few opportunities late on. Sickener after a good comeback. But deserved win for Cork.

Preliminary quarter final for us, assuming we beat Clare, unless we manage to run up the score and Tyrone beat Cork.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: RedHand88 on June 01, 2024, 04:08:58 PM
Are donegal out of the top 3 again?  ::)
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: From the Bunker on June 01, 2024, 04:16:31 PM
The week turn around for Donegal, a rested Cork, the journey down to Cork and Cork being a decent side made this a tricky fixture.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 01, 2024, 04:18:40 PM
Those two Cork goals at the start of the 2nd half proved the turning point. Without talking away from their win they did have the advantage with two weeks to prepare while a seven day turnaround for Donegal.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 04:24:29 PM
They turned Donegal over a lot in the first 50 minutes. Got two goals from it. The likes of Mogan and Eoghan Ban were much less effective with their running. Maybe no harm in the larger scheme as it gives McGuinness plenty to work on.

We'll need the rest too as a few players like McGee went off with knocks.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 01, 2024, 04:50:02 PM
Big result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 04:51:14 PM
Was always a tough fixture going down there and facing a very talented and fresh Cork team.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PM
Ulster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 01, 2024, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 01, 2024, 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??

Who is overrating Ulster?

Has anyone said any Ulster team is better than Dublin or even Kerry. Derry were/are fancied to be competitive, as are Donegal and Armagh, but is anyone putting them down as ahead of Kerry and Dublin?

It is a simple fact though that Ulster is very hard to win because there are a bunch of teams at a similar level and playing in the Sam Maguire series.

Maybe the Dubs would have won a bunch of Ulsters, but to do so, they'd have to be at full pelt each season a lot earlier than they have had to be in Leinster.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 01, 2024, 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??

More competitive then overrated I'd say. 3 teams at could potentially reach a semi, 4 if Tyrone (hopefully don't) get themselves sorted. Tbh I'd be very surprised if Donegal get out of the quarters.

Leinster has 1, Munster maybe 2 and Connacht 2 that could reach the last 4
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.

A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2024, 05:30:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.

A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls
Why do Kerry always get grouped with Dublin. They are very much in the pack behind Dublin with the top Ulster and Connacht teams. They were embarrassed in their last visit to Croke park
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2024, 08:20:36 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
do you honestly think Dublin would o have won b Donegal Tyrone Armagh etc over the last 10 12 years. ? Genuine question
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 02, 2024, 08:31:52 AM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2024, 08:20:36 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
do you honestly think Dublin would o have won b Donegal Tyrone Armagh etc over the last 10 12 years. ? Genuine question
Ah of course they would. But they wouldn't have had it as easy as they do in Leinster imo. 
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Truthsayer on June 02, 2024, 09:04:13 AM
Went to purchase ticket for Tyrone v Clare last night... £22! I genuinely thought it would be bout £12. Maybe I'm very niave. Anyway I won't be there. Ridiculous pricing.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2024, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2024, 08:31:52 AM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2024, 08:20:36 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
do you honestly think Dublin would o have won b Donegal Tyrone Armagh etc over the last 10 12 years. ? Genuine question
Ah of course they would. But they wouldn't have had it as easy as they do in Leinster imo. 
I'd agree with that. But Meath did hold them to 6 points with them getting a penalty that wasn't and we not getting one that was. However that was only one game. I honestly think it's the scars that have left it so easy on dubs. Getting beat once or twice is alright. However when it becomes known before games then it becomes a what's the point exercise. Look what they did to cavan yesterday. 
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 02, 2024, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: Rebel84 on June 01, 2024, 11:18:41 PMHow come Donegal always play that bit better against Tyrone?

No we don't. Got hammered last year after a spirited win over Monaghan. 2021 they beat us with a few to spare, albeit after Murphy missed a penalty and got the line. It goes back and forth.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Hound on June 02, 2024, 01:16:57 PM
Is there any local radio coverage that covers Tyrone GAA matches?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: mick999 on June 02, 2024, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 02, 2024, 01:16:57 PMIs there any local radio coverage that covers Tyrone GAA matches?

Clare fm are covering it
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2024, 02:09:50 PM
Half time Tyrone 2-3 Clare 0-5.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Hound on June 02, 2024, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 02, 2024, 02:09:50 PMHalf time Tyrone 2-3 Clare 0-5.
The Tyrone 2 with 2-2! (Devlin)

Clare FM commentary very good
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2024, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 02, 2024, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 02, 2024, 02:09:50 PMHalf time Tyrone 2-3 Clare 0-5.
The Tyrone 2 with 2-2! (Devlin)

Clare FM commentary very good

Yes impressive scoring by a defender. As ever Clare FM is good.

Tyrone 3-15 Clare 0-10 it finished.

Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: blanketattack on June 02, 2024, 07:08:13 PM
A very limited Cork team beating the Ulster Champions shows what a poor state Ulster football is in right now.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 02, 2024, 07:33:05 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2024, 07:08:13 PMA very limited Cork team beating the Ulster Champions shows what a poor state Ulster football is in right now.

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Shows the opposite. Shows what it takes out of a team to come out of ulster. Unlike other areas where teams come out of it in 2nd gear.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: omagh_gael on June 02, 2024, 09:10:24 PM
Cork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 02, 2024, 09:52:05 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2024, 07:08:13 PMA very limited Cork team beating the Ulster Champions shows what a poor state Ulster football is in right now.


Yet last year there were two Ulster teams in the AI semis. Year before could easily have been two.

We'll see where things stand in another month.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 02, 2024, 11:35:18 PM
I take Cork to top that Group
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 03, 2024, 11:11:24 AM
Looking at the highlights, Donegal gave up 3-1 through terrible ball handling. Mogan (twice), McHugh and Eoghan Ban all guilty of shockingly cheap turnovers for that level. Second goal was poor defending elsewhere also. Pewter shot from the 14 yard line. Shouldn't be hitting the net that easy from there. Maybe Patton unsighted by the defender in front.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: twohands!!! on June 03, 2024, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 03, 2024, 11:11:24 AMLooking at the highlights, Donegal gave up 3-1 through terrible ball handling. Mogan (twice), McHugh and Eoghan Ban all guilty of shockingly cheap turnovers for that level. Second goal was poor defending elsewhere also. Pewter shot from the 14 yard line. Shouldn't be hitting the net that easy from there. Maybe Patton unsighted by the defender in front.

Yeah it was very atypical Donegal defensive performance - Cork had a number of other goal chances as well besides the goals. I wouldn't count Donegal out just yet, especially if they win the group.

A lot of pundits seem to be proclaiming it a great performance by Cork but I would say more it was a great result for them but I don't think it was all that great a performance overall listening to the game it felt very much like a game where they basically fell over the finishing line. The fact is Donegal very nearly got back to get a draw or even a win in a game where they conceded three goals and scored none would have me wary as a Cork supporter. It will be a long time before Cork get three such soft goals in a match again.
Would be very Cork like to go out and get beaten fairly comfortably by Tyrone in the final round.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 02, 2024, 09:10:24 PMCork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Estimator on June 03, 2024, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 02, 2024, 09:10:24 PMCork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.


That's not true.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 07:27:01 PM
Is it not?
Source?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Estimator on June 03, 2024, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 07:27:01 PMIs it not?
Source?

From Page 1:

If a Team is Disqualified or Retires
•    If a team is disqualified or retired during the course of the League Stage, its played Games shall still stand and its unplayed Games shall be awarded to the Opposing Teams

When Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:

(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;

(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);


(iii) Highest Total Score For;

(iv) Highest Total Goals For;

(v) A Play-Off

In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:

(i) Least number of Walkovers given.
(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off


The rules above are badly structured/written -  But all games count.

The only way the Clare results would be ruled out, is if they don't fulfil their final fixture.

The bit in bold is how the groups will be sorted with teams on level points.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on June 03, 2024, 07:55:52 PM

Thanks Estimator...

Sometimes I don't have much faith is people's ability to read and retain.

GAA Master Fixtures Booklet 2024 contains all the info (pg 28 for deciding teams on level points), but why would any posters bother reading the rule book on competitions, let alone the rules of playing.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 08:03:34 PM
Thanks chaps :-*
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 03, 2024, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 02, 2024, 09:10:24 PMCork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.
Yes they will.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: giveherlong on June 04, 2024, 11:09:47 AM
When are the final round of fixtures going to be confirmed?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Blowitupref on June 04, 2024, 02:56:36 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 04, 2024, 11:09:47 AMWhen are the final round of fixtures going to be confirmed?

Confirmed

Saturday 15 June

Castlebar, 3pm: Donegal v Clare

Tullamore or Portlaoise, 3pm: Tyrone v Cork (GAAGO)



Teams

TYRONE:

Niall Morgan;
Michael McKernan, Padraig Hampsey, Aidan Clarke;
Kieran McGeary, Matthew Donnelly, Niall Devlin;
Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick;
Ciaran Daly, Ruari Canavan, Michael O'Neill;
Darren McCurry, Darragh Canavan, Sean O'Donnell.

Subs: Oisin O'Kane, Frank Burns, Ronan Cassidy, Ben Cullen, Peter Harte, Nathan McCarron, Lorcan McGarrity, Cathal McShane, Shea O'Hare, Cormac Quinn, Tiernan Quinn.

Cork:

C Kelly;
K Flahive, D O'Mahony, M Shanley;
R Maguire, T Walsh, M Taylor;
I Maguire, C O'Callaghan;
P Walsh,S Powter, B O'Driscoll;
M Cronin, C Óg Jones, B Hurley

Subs Micheal Martin,Sean Meehan,Darragh Cashman,Thomas Clancy,John O'Rourke,Killian O'Hanlon,Fionn Herlily,Eoghan McSweeney,Ruairi Deane,Conor Corbett,Steven Sherlock


DONEGAL:

Shaun Patton
Mark Curran, Brendan McCole, Eoghan Bán Gallagher
Ryan McHugh, Caolan McGonagle, Peadar Mogan
Ciaran Moore, Michael Langan
Shane O Donnell, Ciaran Thompson, Daire Ó Baoill
Patrick McBrearty, Oisin Gallen, Niall O Donnell.


Subs: Daithí MacRoibeard, Kevin McGettigan, Stephen McMenamin, Odhran Doherty, Conor O'Donnell, Jeaic MacCeallbhuí, Hugh McFadden, Aaron Doherty, Jamie Brennan, Domhnall MacGiolla Bhride, Cathal MacAonghása.

CLARE:

Stephen Ryan
Manus Doherty, Cillian Brennan, Ronan Lanigan
Alan Sweeney, Cillian Rouine, Ikem Ugweru
Brian McNamara, Michéal Garry
Daniel Walsh, Dermot Coughlan, Gavin Murray
Ciarán Downes, Aaron Griffin, Emmet McMahon.

Subs: Tristan O Callaghan, Cormac Murray, Darren Nagle, Jamie Stack, Diarmuid O'Donnell, Mark McInerney, Joe McGann, Éinne O Connor, Cian Burke, Shane Griffin, James Curran.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:13:10 PM
Early scores

Cork 0-3 Tyrone 0-3
Donegal 1-1 Clare 0-1
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 03:18:13 PM
Enjoyable enough so far. Cork well up for it
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: omagh_gael on June 15, 2024, 03:19:04 PM
Neil Neilan going to act the bollix today
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: twohands!!! on June 15, 2024, 03:19:17 PM
Cork Tyrone lively enough - decent pace to it - both defences looking a bit shaky. Could well go down to the wire.

Sounds like an ideal start for Donegal.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:22:38 PM
Donegal 1-5 Clare 0-1

Cork 0-6 Tyrone 0-5
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:27:50 PM
Donegal 1-7 Clare 0-1
Cork 0-7 Tyrone 0-7
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 03:31:43 PM
Don't tell me the Tyrone boys are complaining about the ref again lol
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:33:07 PM
Procession in Castlebar

1-10 to 0-1

Clare got the first score of the game
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Tatler Jack on June 15, 2024, 03:36:24 PM
Enjoyable game - evenly matched. A goal will be a big score.

Ref correct on overcarrying - refs probably told to tighten up after Mayo penalty last week.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:36:38 PM
HT Cork 0-10 Tyrone 0-9
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Tyrone11234 on June 15, 2024, 03:36:55 PM
Paddy Neilan very harsh on Tyrone so far
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 03:31:43 PMDon't tell me the Tyrone boys are complaining about the ref again lol

When its true its true. When michael murphy is questioning a few decisions against tyrone you know its bad lol
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:39:05 PM
HT Donegal 1-11 Clare 0-1

Clare appalling. Four shots into Patton's arms as well.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 03:31:43 PMDon't tell me the Tyrone boys are complaining about the ref again lol

When its true its true. When michael murphy is questioning a few decisions against tyrone you know its bad lol

Yeah, but Murphy wants yez to win today. ;D
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 03:41:15 PM
Martin McHugh on Highland agrees that Canavans overcarrying call was harsh. Says he was told by referees that he could turn as many times as he liked!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 03:31:43 PMDon't tell me the Tyrone boys are complaining about the ref again lol

When its true its true. When michael murphy is questioning a few decisions against tyrone you know its bad lol

The overcarrying was 100% right!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 03:43:38 PM
Couple of ones were dodgy enough on Tyrone but he was right enough with the time. Still should be losing by more.

The one with Dara Cana van and the bald cork boy round midfield was ridiculous though.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Tatler Jack on June 15, 2024, 03:44:04 PM
Harsh in so far as most refs don't enforce the rule properly. Neilan who is a good ref was correct.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: RedHand88 on June 15, 2024, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 03:31:43 PMDon't tell me the Tyrone boys are complaining about the ref again lol

When its true its true. When michael murphy is questioning a few decisions against tyrone you know its bad lol

The overcarrying was 100% right!

It's a rule that is broken in every single run, and has been for years.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: trileacman on June 15, 2024, 03:54:29 PM
Someone tell that bollix Paddy Andrew's to stop interrupting everyone's sentences. He finished a sentence for Marc O Se there like he was a child.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 04:02:17 PM
I think that 17th roll really cemented the black card 🙄
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:03:25 PM
Donegal 2-13 Clare 0-2

According to Brendan Devenney there was a massive row in the Clare camp during the week.

What was Jones at in the other game? No reason to trip Morgan in that situation.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:06:20 PM
Nice finish, reminiscent of Canavan or Gooch!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:06:20 PMNice finish, reminiscent of Canavan or Gooch!

Good goal surely. Very little between the teams!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:08:26 PM
Highland are getting very excited at the news from Tullamore.  8)
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Tyrone11234 on June 15, 2024, 04:09:38 PM
This ref...
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: Tyrone11234 on June 15, 2024, 04:09:38 PMThis ref...
That was 100% a free the Tyrone man never shaped at trying to pick up the ball?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:10:49 PM
What would be the story now? Three teams on four points so score difference?

The ref isn't too bad. This happened the Donegal game with same posters. Ref is grand.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:11:02 PM
Conor O'Donnell with a point on his first appearance this year.

2-15 to 0-2
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:10:49 PMWhat would be the story now? Three teams on four points so score difference?

The ref isn't too bad. This happened the Donegal game with same posters. Ref is grand.

As things stand, Donegal finish first. Cork need a draw. Tyrone can't finish first unless they run in four or five goals.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 04:14:27 PM
He was good to Tyrone there that was a free out!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:14:46 PM
Something needs to be done about 3-4 men sitting on a player and ref giving it as a free out.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:15:09 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 15, 2024, 04:14:27 PMHe was good to Tyrone there that was a free out!

No way 4 men ontop of a player on the ground
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:15:43 PM
Donegal 2-17 Clare 0-3

Clare's first point from play
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:16:16 PM
Foul before it though.

That's a rule problem not a ref problem tbf.

Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:16:16 PMFoul before it though.

That's a rule problem not a ref problem tbf.



Not really though. You have to tackle the ball not the player. 4 players werent tackling the ball
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:21:07 PM
Tyrone doing the opposite of the Donegal game and getting stronger.

You may be right but kilpatrick still fouled the man first though two wrongs don't make it right.

Dunno what happened there.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2024, 04:21:26 PM
What did he do?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:21:32 PM
Smart from Kilpatrick there lol
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:21:07 PMTyrone doing the opposite of the Donegal game and getting stronger.

You may be right but kilpatrick still fouled the man first though two wrongs don't make it right.

Dunno what happened there.
Was something off the ball right in front of the linesman think he hit him a dig
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:22:55 PM
Donegal 2-20 Clare 0-3
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2024, 04:23:59 PM
Cork a man up and Tyrone able to keep ball in defence
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
Lovely move there from Tyrone and should have been finished
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:24:37 PM
What? No idea what he did.

Tyrone a good bit better really once they sussed cork out.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:26:03 PM
Not sure what happened there. Knowing conn it was probably deserved
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:26:27 PM
How long will Kilpatrick be out for?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:26:41 PM
Surely thats at least a yellow for Donnelly
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2024, 04:27:50 PM
Did Clare send up the Ladies?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:28:47 PM
Not first straight red this season so you'll likely not see him again this season.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:28:51 PM
Donegal must be heading for a record victory. 26 points ahead and counting. Don't remember us winning any championship game by that margin before.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: An Watcher on June 15, 2024, 04:30:05 PM
Dunno how it would be dodgy but that clare result looks dodgy a feck.  25 points.  Seriously
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: bennydorano on June 15, 2024, 04:31:33 PM
Tyrone have been very impressive in the 2nd half, but I'm not sold on the whole Cork resurgence narrative tbh, still think they're a pretty average D2 team.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:26:41 PMSurely thats at least a yellow for Donnelly

Yellow at worst. Didnt trip or pull player to ground.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Saffrongael on June 15, 2024, 04:33:31 PM
Who tops the group ?
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2024, 04:33:52 PM
I think they drop the heads too easily when going gets tough. They are not too bad though but they went a man down and that was that.

Donegal top.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:34:10 PM
FT Donegal 2-23 Clare 0-4
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:34:53 PM
Thank you Tyrone!👍
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:36:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:34:53 PMThank you Tyrone!👍

Lol
Quote from: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:34:53 PMThank you Tyrone!👍

Lol if you want to win the ai you have to play the big teams, you can only avoid it for a while.

Fyi tyrone have no chance of winning it
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 15, 2024, 04:36:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:34:53 PMThank you Tyrone!👍

Lol
Quote from: J70 on June 15, 2024, 04:34:53 PMThank you Tyrone!👍

Lol if you want to win the ai you have to play the big teams, you can only avoid it for a while.

Fyi tyrone have no chance of winning it

Yeah, but a week off and postponing the inevitable a round or two is a nice prize.

So again, thanks boys!

And we're not going all the way either.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Tatler Jack on June 15, 2024, 04:39:02 PM
Black card made a difference but Cork showed a lack of composure and cohesiveness in the second half and not all of it down to Tyrone. Their play was frantic at times especially after the black card and again towards the end.  Best team won.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:40:19 PM
Tyrone will play one of of Meath/Monaghan, Westmeath/Derry or Roscommon (already played Cavan) at home so you'd fancy their chances of making a QF.

Cork have to go to either us/Galway (likely) Louth or Mayo and would get it tight in any of them games
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2024, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:40:19 PMTyrone will play one of of Meath/Monaghan, Westmeath/Derry or Roscommon (already played Cavan) at home so you'd fancy their chances of making a QF.

Cork have to go to either us/Galway (likely) Louth or Mayo and would get it tight in any of them games

Can get Louth as well if Monaghan bate Meath. I'd near want to see Tyrone / Derry as we are not winning the thing and it would be some game
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 15, 2024, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 04:40:19 PMTyrone will play one of of Meath/Monaghan, Westmeath/Derry or Roscommon (already played Cavan) at home so you'd fancy their chances of making a QF.

Cork have to go to either us/Galway (likely) Louth or Mayo and would get it tight in any of them games

Can get Louth as well if Monaghan bate Meath. I'd near want to see Tyrone / Derry as we are not winning the thing and it would be some game
You're right actually but it would take a 20 point scoring difference swing with Louth and Monaghan which would be fairly unlikely. Tyrone Derry be a good one alright!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 05:09:14 PM
Are you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

I think it might only be avoidance of repeat pairings from Group Stage and provincial finals but could be wrong.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: balladmaker on June 15, 2024, 05:12:45 PM
This is one time I hope they do rig the draw ... Tyrone v Derry in Healy Park would be worth seeing given the context.  Of course, will be a irrelevant if Westmeath dump Derry out tonight.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 05:09:14 PMAre you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

I think it might only be avoidance of repeat pairings from Group Stage and provincial finals but could be wrong.
Open to correction on that!
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Rossfan on June 15, 2024, 09:46:24 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 05:09:14 PMAre you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

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They could have but irrelevant now.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 05:09:14 PMAre you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

I think it might only be avoidance of repeat pairings from Group Stage and provincial finals but could be wrong.
Open to correction on that!

I'm not sure myself.

On the Tailteann thread it says that there will be no draw.

As Antrim have played Down and Sligo so they've been drawn against Kildare or Laois.

So maybe you're right.
Title: Re: Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2024, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 15, 2024, 05:09:14 PMAre you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

I think it might only be avoidance of repeat pairings from Group Stage and provincial finals but could be wrong.
Open to correction on that!

I'm not sure myself.

On the Tailteann thread it says that there will be no draw.

As Antrim have played Down and Sligo so they've been drawn against Kildare or Laois.

So maybe you're right.
Going by what mod posted in the other thread it's avoiding provincial finalists and teams from the same group only.