Group 3:
18/19 May: Clare v Cork
25/26 May: Donegal v Tyrone
1/2 June: Cork v Donegal, Tyrone v Clare
15/16 June (Neutral venue): Donegal v Clare, Tyrone v Cork
Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.
Teams will be awarded two points for a win and one point for a draw.
Preliminary Quarter-Finals
22-23.06.2024 (Sat/Sun)
The four second-placed teams from Round 1 (Group Stage) shall be drawn to play at home against the four third-placed teams, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.
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Quarter-Finals
29-30.06.2024 (Sat/Sun)
The four first-place teams from Round 1 (Group Stage) shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1 (Group Stage).
Semi-Finals
13-14.07.2024 (Sat/Sun)
The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.
Final
28.07.2024 (Sun) | (Replay: 10.08.2024 (Sat))
The winners of the All-Ireland Semi-Finals shall meet in the All-Ireland Final.
Venues
Venues for the All-Ireland Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals and Final shall be determined by the Central Competitions Control Committee.
Winner on the Day
The All-Ireland Football Preliminary Quarter-Finals, Quarter-Finals & Semi-Finals will be Winner on the Day. The All-Ireland Final will have Extra time in the original fixture and will be Winner on the Day in the event of a replay only.
The following regulations shall govern the GAA Senior Inter-County Championships (Rule 6.12 (k) T.O. 2023):
If a Team is Disqualified or Retires
• If a team is disqualified or retired during the course of the League Stage, its played Games shall still stand and its unplayed Games shall be awarded to the Opposing Teams
When Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:
(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;
(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);
(iii) Highest Total Score For;
(iv) Highest Total Goals For;
(v) A Play-Off
In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:
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(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off
Fancy Tyrone to beat Donegal to top spot. Few weeks training will have them primed to turn over Donegal.
Saturday 25th Donegal v Tyrone, MacCumhaill Park, 7.15pm, GAAGO
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 13, 2024, 11:03:27 AMFancy Tyrone to beat Donegal to top spot. Few weeks training will have them primed to turn over Donegal.
Will Throne give Donegal a guard of honour on to the field, and will Donegal return the faovour on the way off 😉
And would that make Tyrone lineal Ulster Champs?
At least, unlike last year, we'll have a big, enthusiastic Donegal crowd and a confident, motivated team!
There'll be nothing in this again. A point or three either way. Hopefully a calm, still day for our long range shooters!
Any word of tickets or group tickets yet?
Cork 1-6 Clare 0-4 half time.
Result Cork: 1-13 Clare: 1-11
Not much word about this group yet!
Do Tyrone have the likes of Harte and Meyler coming back?
I'm assuming Kilpatrick is fully fit now?
Was talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMWas talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Clare given the huge player turnover and losing a good and long term manager have been more competitive than I expected them to be in the league and championship this year. That was a high stakes game last weekend with both probably knowing the loser could be facing a group stage exit so for matches like that they don't tend to be great in quality.
Kerry's last two championship games against Cork was won by a margin of 2 and 3 points and last year Cork beat two Div 1 teams in Roscommon and Mayo. With that in mind shouldn't they be able to give Donegal and Tyrone competitive games? and depending on the draw they should be capable of beating a few teams in the play off round to reach what would be their 3rd All Ireland quarter final in a row.
Round 2 games
Saturday 1st of June
Cork v Donegal in Pairc ui rinn at 2:30pm
Sunday 2nd of June
Tyrone v Clare in Healy Park at 1:30pm
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 22, 2024, 06:58:08 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMWas talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Clare given the huge player turnover and losing a good and long term manager have been more competitive than I expected them to be in the league and championship this year. That was a high stakes game last weekend with both probably knowing the loser could be facing a group stage exit so for matches like that they don't tend to be great in quality.
Kerry's last two championship games against Cork was won by a margin of 2 and 3 points and last year Cork beat two Div 1 teams in Roscommon and Mayo. With that in mind shouldn't they be able to give Donegal and Tyrone competitive games? and depending on the draw they should be capable of beating a few teams in the play off round to reach what would be their 3rd All Ireland quarter final in a row.
I'm expecting a very tough game for Donegal down in Cork. Could be under serious pressure too if we lose to Tyrone on Saturday.
To follow up on the comments about Clare Cork game - basically the person I was talking to said both sides played poorly with Cork just about getting over the line.
They did mention Cork's shooting was very poor including one horrendous miss from Hurley for what was a tap-over free. They said the Clare forward (can't think of his name) who had a great game against Kerry was well marked and Clare seemed to have very little in the way of attacking ideas once he was kept quiet. Maybe it was an off day for both sides but my friend was not impressed with either team.
Cork are a funny team. So inconsistent.
But when you look at their team player by player they have some great man markers; loads of pace a strong midfield and 3 or 4 scoring forwards. Not sure on their keeper options though.
So the ingredients are there for a top side; just waiting on them to deliver on a consistent basis.
1. Niall Morgan
2. Niall Devlin
3. Padraig Hampsey
4. Michael McKernan
5. Ben Cullen
6. Matthew Donnelly
7. Kieran McGeary
8. Brian Kennedy
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Ciarán Daly
11. Michael O'Neill
12. Seanie O'Donnell
13. Darren McCurry
14. Darragh Canavan
15. Ruairi Canavan
Subs:
16. Oisin O'Kane
17. Aidan Clarke
18. Cormaic Donnelly
19. Peter Harte
20. Dalaigh Jones
21. Nathan McCarron
22. Lorcan McGarrity
23. Cathal McShane
24. Joe Oguz
25. Cormac Quinn
26. Tiarnan Quinn
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2024, 12:38:35 PMQuote from: Cunny Funt on May 22, 2024, 06:58:08 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMWas talking to someone who was at the Clare v Cork game. Standard was poor enough from his account.
He said if both Tyrone and Donegal don't manage to beat both of them comfortably they might as well not bothering turning up for the knockout stages.
He didn't give Cork much of a chance in the knockout stages (assuming they pick up the 3rd place spot in the knockouts.
Clare given the huge player turnover and losing a good and long term manager have been more competitive than I expected them to be in the league and championship this year. That was a high stakes game last weekend with both probably knowing the loser could be facing a group stage exit so for matches like that they don't tend to be great in quality.
Kerry's last two championship games against Cork was won by a margin of 2 and 3 points and last year Cork beat two Div 1 teams in Roscommon and Mayo. With that in mind shouldn't they be able to give Donegal and Tyrone competitive games? and depending on the draw they should be capable of beating a few teams in the play off round to reach what would be their 3rd All Ireland quarter final in a row.
I'm expecting a very tough game for Donegal down in Cork. Could be under serious pressure too if we lose to Tyrone on Saturday.
Donegal v Tyrone should be a real bruising and energy sapping game and what needs to be factored in is it's just a 7 day turnaround for Donegal before they play Cork away who have two weeks to prepare.
In the run up to that Gallen point McBrearty charged into the Tyrone defender and got away with it.
Before that, McKernan was fouled when he took a shot at goal and should have been a free-in.
McCurry misses an easy free in front of goals and not the first time this year. Donegal go up and score a point to make it a 2 point swing.
Tyrone should be winning. A few wayward wides costing them.
Though Donegal catching up there.
Some catch by Morgan but what was he supposed to do when he fell awkwardly? Very soft free in.
Jees! Joe McQuillan 🤨
Oh Joe. Joe Joe Joe....
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 25, 2024, 07:48:53 PMSome catch by Morgan but what was he supposed to do when he fell awkwardly? Very soft free in.
It's still a foul though.
The Langland one wasn't at all.
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 25, 2024, 07:48:53 PMSome catch by Morgan but what was he supposed to do when he fell awkwardly? Very soft free in.
Some fetch but he then lifted the ball clean off the ground not sure what McQuillan was to do
The next free he gave Donegal was dreadful decision...
Good game being spoilt by shit refereeing
Finally a soft free in for Tyrone!
Evened up there with a dodgy free to Tyrone...
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2024, 07:52:34 PMEvened up there with a dodgy free to Tyrone...
True...
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 25, 2024, 07:51:51 PMThe next free he gave Donegal was dreadful decision...
The Langan one? Brutal. McCurry after getting a very soft one as well.
Very little between these two again, a point apiece is possible.
Good game. Draw written all over it.
McQuillan dishing out a couple of soft frees both ways at the end there. ;D
Was that last score between the posts?
Does the commentator not know the 'h' in Thompson is silent? :-\
McHugh going down holding his face there embarrassing.
Is this a step up in performance in Donegal from their Ulster displays.
Seem to be playing with alot more pace and intensity.
With the obvious exception of the Derry game.
The year is 2038.
Tyrone are tailing off in a tight affair.
There's 15 mins to go.
Cathal McShane comes on.
Tyrone continue tailing off.
Tyrone have been gutless in the 2nd half.
Donegal just much better. Thought Tyrone were going to really put it up to them but have really dropped off.
Donegal relentless pace.
The only criticism id have of them is they don't seem to be able to manufacturer the goal chances that RG's Derry could when running in numbers and at pace.
Butchered a few this evening.
Something to work on.
I think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.
No complaints, Donegal flying. Serious challengers this year, wish them well.
Quote from: thewobbler on May 25, 2024, 08:48:15 PMThe year is 2038.
Tyrone are tailing off in a tight affair.
There's 15 mins to go.
Cathal McShane comes on.
Tyrone continue tailing off.
And Tyrones sole attacking game plan will still be centred on an offspring of the Canavans trying to beat 3 men and hoping he comes up with a bit of magic.
Quote from: red hander on May 25, 2024, 08:51:57 PMNo complaints, Donegal flying. Serious challengers this year, wish them well.
Yes they are, at this juncture only Dublin can beat them , Maybe Kerry, just Maybe.
They just seemed sharper all over the field.
Donegals best performance since win against Derry. In a very good position to top the group now and would have to fancy them to reach the last 4 for the first time in a decade which was last done under McGuinness.
Quote from: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PMI think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.
Wha..?
Great performance. Honestly wasn't expecting to win that so relatively easily, especially after playing very well in the first half but Tyrone still staying with us. Thought we then blew a few chances to drive it home with about 15 minutes left and feared Tyrone might make it a tight finish again, but fair fucks to the lads, they killed it off. Best performance of his career for Langan, while the runners like Mogan and Ban were superb. Some swing from the game last summer! Tyrone will have some side in the next few years though once all those youngsters get a bit of senior experience under their belt.
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 25, 2024, 08:28:10 PMMcHugh going down holding his face there embarrassing.
Par for the course with him
Quote from: J70 on May 25, 2024, 11:58:00 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PMI think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.
Wha..?
Pay no heed. Donegal deserved winners today. That second half performance was Dublin-esque. Congratulations.
Donegal last year compared to this year under Jim McGuinness are prime example to any top 8/10 team how they can improved once it has structure organisation, top level fitness from hard winter training and each and every player buying into a system of play. With Cork and Clare to come that game yesterday was basically a table topper and the manner and margin of victory yesterday was impressive and it's rarely easy to beat the same Div 1 team twice in a matter of weeks.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 26, 2024, 11:00:33 AMDonegal last year compared to this year under Jim McGuinness are prime example to any top 8/10 team how they can improved once it has structure organisation, top level fitness from hard winter training and each and every player buying into a system of play. With Cork and Clare to come that game yesterday was basically a table topper and the manner and margin of victory yesterday was impressive and it's rarely easy to beat the same Div 1 team twice in a matter of weeks.
Cork could be tricky.They are a decent side. And it's an away fixture on the other side of the country.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2024, 11:30:06 AMQuote from: Cunny Funt on May 26, 2024, 11:00:33 AMDonegal last year compared to this year under Jim McGuinness are prime example to any top 8/10 team how they can improved once it has structure organisation, top level fitness from hard winter training and each and every player buying into a system of play. With Cork and Clare to come that game yesterday was basically a table topper and the manner and margin of victory yesterday was impressive and it's rarely easy to beat the same Div 1 team twice in a matter of weeks.
Cork could be tricky.They are a decent side. And it's an away fixture on the other side of the country.
The 7 day turn around for Donegal and Cork rested for 14 days is what could make it tricky but I think the confidence Donegal will take from yesterdays win and their fitness/conditioning should be make it alright for them.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 26, 2024, 09:32:04 AMQuote from: J70 on May 25, 2024, 11:58:00 PMQuote from: trileacman on May 25, 2024, 08:51:54 PMI think we'll beat Donegal when the ref isn't a Donegal man.
Wha..?
Pay no heed. Donegal deserved winners today. That second half performance was Dublin-esque. Congratulations.
Ref made some strange calls for/against both teams - possibly slightly more fortunate for Donegal - but not the reason for the result. Tyrone were not particularly poor but Donegal were very good. I thought they looked fairly average with everyone else in the UC but they raised it a level for this game.
Donegal are the only unbeaten team in league and championship this year. P12 W11 D1 F225 A164
Donegal last year after 12 league and championship games. W3 D1 L8 F154 A206
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2024, 03:28:53 PMDonegal are the only unbeaten team in league and championship this year. P12 W11 D1 F225 A164
Donegal last year after 12 league and championship games. W3 D1 L8 F154 A206
10 wins in games and 1 in a penalty competition.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 28, 2024, 08:57:07 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2024, 03:28:53 PMDonegal are the only unbeaten team in league and championship this year. P12 W11 D1 F225 A164
Donegal last year after 12 league and championship games. W3 D1 L8 F154 A206
10 wins in games and 1 in a penalty competition.
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Man let it go!
Looking at the gaago games surely Donegal and cork would have been a better pick today rather than a facile Dublin won in cavan.also putting Sligo v antrim on tomorrow at the same time as Derry v Armagh which will get limited viewing from neutrals.
Quote from: statto on Today at 01:42:34 PMLooking at the gaago games surely Donegal and cork would have been a better pick today rather than a facile Dublin won in cavan.also putting Sligo v antrim on tomorrow at the same time as Derry v Armagh which will get limited viewing from neutrals.
Of course you are correct and tomorrow even the Sligo manger's family will be watching Armagh.
Martin McHugh fairly laying into Gallen on the radio coverage
Half time Cork 1-4 Donegal 0-9
Two quick goals at the start of the second half for Cork. Donegal in a bit of bother. Getting turned over quite a bit.
3-4 0-9
Cork 3-04 Donegal 0-09 a few minutes into the second half.
Donegal a bit relaxed and let in 2 goals!
Of course Donegal can come back from a deficit, as Armagh knows.
Perfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them
Quote from: JoG2 on Today at 03:36:14 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them
Who said that?
Quote from: J70 on Today at 03:38:32 PMQuote from: JoG2 on Today at 03:36:14 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them
Who said that?
Kerry / Donegal / Dublin, everywhere you read... And me!
Quote from: JoG2 on Today at 03:39:41 PMQuote from: J70 on Today at 03:38:32 PMQuote from: JoG2 on Today at 03:36:14 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them
Who said that?
Kerry / Donegal / Dublin, everywhere you read... And me!
Most coverage I've heard predicted a tough game for Donegal at PuR.
If they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?
3-6 0-12
Quote from: JoG2 on Today at 03:36:14 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:34:37 PMPerfect start to the second half for Cork, be interesting to see how Donegal respond.
Donegal are the 2nd coming, no chance Cork are beating them
Back to a one score game now regardless what happens it appears Two hands and whoever that someone he was talking too was underestimating Cork it seems.
Quote from: J70 on Today at 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?
Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.
Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:45:35 PMQuote from: J70 on Today at 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?
Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.
So it's scoring difference and not head to head to break ties?
Quote from: J70 on Today at 03:48:38 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:45:35 PMQuote from: J70 on Today at 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?
Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.
So it's scoring difference and not head to head to break ties?
Scoring difference if three finish on the same points.
Five minutes to play Cork 3-7 Donegal 0-15
Level game!
Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:49:53 PMQuote from: J70 on Today at 03:48:38 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:45:35 PMQuote from: J70 on Today at 03:42:39 PMIf they don't turn this around, I'm assuming Donegal can't top the group?
Depends how the Tyrone v Cork game goes.
So it's scoring difference and not head to head to break ties?
Scoring difference if three finish on the same points.
Well Donegal would need Tyrone to beat Cork. Presumably they'd also beat Clare. In which case all three would have four points. So Donegal need to pull this back.
Point in it.
Level.
Cork one in front again going into added time.
Cork one up after McGonagle called for overcarrying.
3-8 to 0-16
2 in it in the end
Bit of a surprise that one.
Like their hurlers a few weeks ago a big win for Cork footballers today.
Massive result for Cork they have to be favourites for top spot after that!
Listened to Smaller Fish and to be fair Wooly called it with no rivalry and the hassle of getting to Cork etc Donegal were there for the taking!
Cork win by two. Donegal blew a few opportunities late on. Sickener after a good comeback. But deserved win for Cork.
Preliminary quarter final for us, assuming we beat Clare, unless we manage to run up the score and Tyrone beat Cork.
Are donegal out of the top 3 again? ::)
The week turn around for Donegal, a rested Cork, the journey down to Cork and Cork being a decent side made this a tricky fixture.
Those two Cork goals at the start of the 2nd half proved the turning point. Without talking away from their win they did have the advantage with two weeks to prepare while a seven day turnaround for Donegal.
They turned Donegal over a lot in the first 50 minutes. Got two goals from it. The likes of Mogan and Eoghan Ban were much less effective with their running. Maybe no harm in the larger scheme as it gives McGuinness plenty to work on.
We'll need the rest too as a few players like McGee went off with knocks.
Big result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.
Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.
Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.
Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??
Was always a tough fixture going down there and facing a very talented and fresh Cork team.
Ulster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on Today at 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.
Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.
Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.
Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??
Who is overrating Ulster?
Has anyone said any Ulster team is better than Dublin or even Kerry. Derry were/are fancied to be competitive, as are Donegal and Armagh, but is anyone putting them down as ahead of Kerry and Dublin?
It is a simple fact though that Ulster is very hard to win because there are a bunch of teams at a similar level and playing in the Sam Maguire series.
Maybe the Dubs would have won a bunch of Ulsters, but to do so, they'd have to be at full pelt each season a lot earlier than they have had to be in Leinster.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on Today at 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.
Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.
Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.
Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??
More competitive then overrated I'd say. 3 teams at could potentially reach a semi, 4 if Tyrone (hopefully don't) get themselves sorted. Tbh I'd be very surprised if Donegal get out of the quarters.
Leinster has 1, Munster maybe 2 and Connacht 2 that could reach the last 4
Quote from: Dunneroyal on Today at 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Quote from: Dunneroyal on Today at 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls
Quote from: JoG2 on Today at 05:24:46 PMQuote from: Dunneroyal on Today at 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls
Why do Kerry always get grouped with Dublin. They are very much in the pack behind Dublin with the top Ulster and Connacht teams. They were embarrassed in their last visit to Croke park