Connacht final on tonight
Galway v Mayo in Tuam Stadium at 7pm
Ulster final Sunday, May 28th
Derry v Monaghan in Athletic Grounds at 6pm
Leinster final Wednesday May 31st
Dublin v Kildare in O'Moore Park 7:30pm
Munster final Friday June 2nd
Kerry v Cork in Austin Stack Park
All Ireland Quarter finals June 10th
Connacht winner v Ulster runner up
Ulster winner v Connacht runner up
Munster winner v Leinster runner up
Leinster winner v Munster runner up
All Ireland Semi finals June 24th
All Ireland final July 8/9th
All games will be live on TG4.
I used to love the minor championship when it was U18 and the All Ireland Final was before the senior final. I feel like it's not the same spectacle since it went to U17, I know it's only one year but you can nearly see in the build of the lads that they have a lot of development still to do. I could be over stating it but I feel as though the correlation between a good U18 making it into the senior county team is far greater than what you would currently have in U17.
Should be a decent game in Tuam tonight. A repeat of last year's Connacht final (Mayo won) and All Ireland final (Galway won) group game this year was won by one point by Galway deep into injury time.
A number of good quality footballers on display. For Galway Vincent Gill, Ross Coen, Shay McGlinchey, Charlie Cox, Seán Walsh and Mayo Rio Mortimer, Dara Nearly, Tommy Lydon, Darragh Beirne and Josh Carey.
15 minutes played in the Connacht final. Galway 0-3 Mayo 0-2. Took Mayo 13 minutes to score. Half time Galway 0-8 Mayo 0-7.
45 minutes played Galway 0-10 Mayo 2-10, 1st goal from a penalty, 2nd goal a fine low finish on 45 mins. FT Galway 1-10 Mayo 2-13
Shay McGlinchey is a grandson of Dominic and Mary McGlinchey.
Boyler will have enjoyed that. Two corner forwards brilliant- Byrne and Guilfoyle
Not a bad game this.
Strong 2nd half performance by Mayo, the two goals in a five mins proved the difference. Probably the best set of forwards Mayo have had on minor team since 2013. Galway cause not helped with Sean Walsh going off injured and didn't get as much impact off the bench as Mayo.
Great Ulster Final on TG4 here
what a mistake by the derry keeper. Extra time. Both keepers have been brilliant too
Brutal finish. Derry coaches must not watch MacRory games. Bit of deja vu about that.
Quote from: Link on May 28, 2023, 07:32:06 PM
Brutal finish. Derry coaches must not watch MacRory games. Bit of deja vu about that.
Monaghan were trying to get a goal far too soon. They had loads of time to get the 2 points. They got lucky
Brilliant game, with everything.
Derry are carrying a black card time out for about 8/9 minutes into ET.
Ger Dillon (Derry) has converted place kicks from all positions up to 45m out.
Cast iron penalty not given there.
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Quote from: straightred on May 28, 2023, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Derry. Penalties very harsh on 16 and 17 year old.
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: straightred on May 28, 2023, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Derry. Penalties very harsh on 16 and 17 year old.
Impossible to see on the tv coverage if it was cast iron or not.
I suppose at least Monaghan have had a bit of practice at the penalties. Tough way to lose a final for a young lad though
G what a bunch of teenage w**ks behind the goal
Super penalty to win it for Derry.
All round it was a great final, no shame for Derry to have to win it on a penalty shoot out :)
Monaghan have made up a lot of ground since their hammering last time out v Derry.
Derry minors missed all 5 of their penalties that they were awarded this year.
When will venues be announced for qf s? double header in breffni for connacht v ulster ones?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 28, 2023, 08:13:40 PM
G what a bunch of teenage w**ks behind the goal
You must have been some craic growing up
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: straightred on May 28, 2023, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Derry. Penalties very harsh on 16 and 17 year old.
Harsh at all levels in inter county football however it's cruel on teens though at least Monaghan are still in the All Ireland competition
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Be interesting to see how many of these players, from bith sides, have a prolonged inter-county career at senior level.
Out of the, say 40 lads, it could be very minimal.
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2023, 07:29:20 AM
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Be interesting to see how many of these players, from bith sides, have a prolonged inter-county career at senior level.
Out of the, say 40 lads, it could be very minimal.
Was thinking the same post game and I'd say possibly 2 from Derry and maybe 4-5 from Monaghan. Monaghan looked to have the bigger more athletic players whereas Derry were better footballers.
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19)
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 29, 2023, 09:45:24 AM
https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19)
That's the first i have seen of this, what was the goalkeeper thinking in the first place !
Quote from: straightred on May 29, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: straightred on May 29, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.
this is not correct.
The forward MUST start outside the D when the ball is kicked, BUT is allowed to go into the D to collect the ball. It does not have to travel 13 metres before a forward touches the ball.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 29, 2023, 08:41:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2023, 07:29:20 AM
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Be interesting to see how many of these players, from bith sides, have a prolonged inter-county career at senior level.
Out of the, say 40 lads, it could be very minimal.
Was thinking the same post game and I'd say possibly 2 from Derry and maybe 4-5 from Monaghan. Monaghan looked to have the bigger more athletic players whereas Derry were better footballers.
It's always hard to know how many will make the grade at senior - injuries, work, travel, just pure interest in doing it, and a manager that rates them are all variables. From what I seen of the Monaghan minor team, McGinnity, Finn, Mooney, Carolan and Mallen all look to have significant ability and have the potential to be senior inter county players. 5 prospects making the grade would be an excellent return from this minor team. Meehan and McKenna are underage next year and look decent too.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: straightred on May 29, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.
David Gough thinks otherwise. What hope have we if we cant get agreement on the rules. My own view is that it should have stood. The keeper made the mistake - these are the risks you take with a short kick out. I don't think we can say it affected the result though - there was plenty of time left. The Derry keeper had an up and down day. His mistake caused extra time too. However he then went on to win the shoot out for them and he had a few good saves in the game.
Good point about the injuries. Derry #12 was the biggest culprit
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
David Gough (who should know) said that only the defender couldn't touch it so I'm inclined to believe him.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
David Cough must be wrong then ::)
It makes sense once the opponent is 13m prior to kick. What would happen if the keeper miskicked it and it travels inside the D and stops? Of course the attacker can play ball and defender can't, otherwise the play would freeze or the keeper would get off with it. Same as if a free taker kicks a free short, once the opponent the distance away before the free taken, he can then move after the ball is struck.
Quote from: Louther on May 29, 2023, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
David Cough must be wrong then ::)
It makes sense once the opponent is 13m prior to kick. What would happen if the keeper miskicked it and it travels inside the D and stops? Of course the attacker can play ball and defender can't, otherwise the play would freeze or the keeper would get off with it. Same as if a free taker kicks a free short, once the opponent the distance away before the free taken, he can then move after the ball is struck.
Technically, the gk can kick it a second time !
Who am i to argue with David Gough?
But if he is right the rule is stupid.
Derryman, of course he is right.
Why is a stupid rule?
Think about it if the rule stated that the ball must travel 13m before being touched by anyone else.
Goalie kicks the ball, it travels 10metres. The goalie sits on his arse for 20minutes and says no-one can touch the ball until it travels 13metres.
Perfect way to protect a lead! 😃
This is one occasion where the ladies rules are better than the men's. As long as you're 13m away when it's kicked you can take possession of the ball on any restart of play.
Quite ironic seeing Monaghan complaining about a refereeing decision when the clips of the calls that went their way in the semi final are all over the internet. Bit of what goes around comes around springs to mind me thinks
No announcement on venues for qf s ? GAA are a friggin nightmare for supporters to make arrangements
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 11:39:22 AM
No announcement on venues for qf s ? GAA are a friggin nightmare for supporters to make arrangements
They have little care for supporters. Probably waiting for the two other provincial finals to finish and then perhaps have a few double headers.
Dublin v Kildare Leinster final on tonight at 7:30 and Kerry v Cork Munster final on Friday at 7:30pm both live TG4.
Back to back Leinster titles for Dublin. 0-19 to 2-8 winners tonight.
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Derry v Galway before it at 3.30
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two quarters finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Kilkenny should get nothing football considering how poor an effort their county board put in to the game.
Quote from: fearsiuil on May 31, 2023, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Kilkenny should get nothing football considering how poor an effort their county board put in to the game.
Kilkenny play junior and recently won the all Ireland plus they have a decent county championship.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Is this they first year that there have been 4 Semi Finals ;D
;D
Was thinking that myself.
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 01, 2023, 08:54:48 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Is this they first year that there have been 4 Semi Finals ;D
A slight typo. Quarter finals of course.
Quarter finals live on the TG4 YouTube channel tomorrow
Dublin v Cork at 1pm https://www.youtube.com/live/9EKr3h_rryE?feature=share
Derry v Galway at 3:30pm
https://www.youtube.com/live/lt5d4j2se-Y?feature=share
Kerry v Kildare at 3pm
https://www.youtube.com/live/xBIFD1gkBTc?feature=share
Mayo v Monaghan at 5:15pm
https://www.youtube.com/live/1dJW6eq8iOY?feature=share
Half time Dublin 0-8 Cork 1-10
Full time Dublin 1-18 Cork 2-12
Some 2nd half performance by Dublin, levelled the game up deep into added time then moments later gifted a goal when the Cork defender under hit a fist pass back to the goal keeper.
Derry 1-5 to 0-2 up at half time.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 10, 2023, 04:04:43 PM
Derry 1-5 to 0-2 up at half time.
Derry good value for that lead, good goal on 15 minutes.
Cracking goal by Derry.
Result Kerry 2-13 Kildare 1-11.
What's semi final.draw?
Galway down to 14, black card followed by Red.
Derry lead 1-08 to 0-04
46mins played.
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Galway very disappointing. Derry fairly sloppy at times too.
Galway have kicked it over the sideline about 5 or 6 times..poor performance. Much better from Derry today. Felt they underperformed in ulster final
FT Derry 1-13 Galway 0-4. Very routine win for the Ulster, young tribesmen won't be happy with that display looked fairly toothless with Sean Walsh.
Derry hammered Galway in Carrick. I hope it's not an omen for next week
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 10, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Lol, jesus I wonder what you would have said if you were allowed to be too critical ;D
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 10, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Seniors wernt all that in salthill in 2013 , least the kids have youth on their side
Quote from: HiMucker on June 10, 2023, 05:03:21 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 10, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Lol, jesus I wonder what you would have said if you were allowed to be too critical ;D
Sure it's minor, doesn't really matter, very hard on them to have such a non performance.
Good start for Mayo, not the best of defending by Monaghan on that goal. 10 mins played Mayo 1-2 Monaghan 0-2
Mayo defense throwing this game away
Edit-Mayo forwards throwing this game away
Monaghan have taken over since the 10th minute. Just 2 points for Mayo since then and 1-7 to Monaghan. HT Mayo 1-4 Monaghan 1-9
It kind of stood out since start of championship Mayo were a little light and small ,Rio Mortimer looks like a lad who might come through .
There's a bit of a wind out there, favouring Monaghan in the 2nd half.
Not sure who decided that last Mayo point was a score, umpire hadn't a clue!
45 minutes played Monaghan still in control and leading 1-12 to 1-6.
Monaghan Mayo an enjoyable game.
Monaghan number 6 is a super player.
Looks like the standard in Connacht this year was poor.
Any idea who plays who in Semi Final? Would Derry and Monaghan (assuming they hold on) need separated?
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Monaghan Mayo an enjoyable game.
Monaghan number 6 is a super player.
Looks like the standard in Connacht this year was poor.
Mayo and Galway not of the standard of the Ulster finalists anyway. What I've seen of Monaghan and Derry today and in the last few games it won't be a surprise if one of them go on to win this All Ireland.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 10, 2023, 06:15:52 PM
Any idea who plays who in Semi Final? Would Derry and Monaghan (assuming they hold on) need separated?
Dublin Derry and likely Kerry Monaghan on the 24th
Monaghan have never won the all Ireland at this grade (either)
They had one final appearance in 1939
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 10, 2023, 06:11:42 PM
Not sure who decided that last Mayo point was a score, umpire hadn't a clue!
Linesman I think, he was in line with the kick.
Last years two All Ireland finalist out at the Quarter final stage this year. Could we get Ulster All Ireland final this year? FT Monaghan 1-16 Mayo 1-8
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Monaghan Mayo an enjoyable game.
Monaghan number 6 is a super player.
Looks like the standard in Connacht this year was poor.
Mallon (6) was the standout player. Think he got 3 points form play and god knows how many other scores he was involved in. He's one to watch
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
Monaghan and Derry very impressive. Semi finals are Derry v Dublin and Monaghan v Kerry, wouldn't rule Ulster All Ireland final.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
I saw somewhere that Kerry objected - can hardly blame them given the relative distances involved.
I'd say it had to be a TG4 request - having the 2 matches at the same venue would make life much easier for them.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
It's K and K and K
Minor travelling fans wouldn't qualify for horde status. It's not as sensitive as with armagh seniors.
Great performance by Monaghan, some very promising players there. Looks like the standard in Ulster was pretty good this year.
Quote from: Schkite on June 10, 2023, 07:19:20 PM
Great performance by Monaghan, some very promising players there. Looks like the standard in Ulster was pretty good this year.
Tyrone had a good team also.
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Quote from: Schkite on June 10, 2023, 07:19:20 PM
Great performance by Monaghan, some very promising players there. Looks like the standard in Ulster was pretty good this year.
Tyrone had a good team also.
Yeah Tyrone were very unlucky to get knocked out by Monaghan in the Ulster semi final.
Tyrone probably had the strongest panel.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
The fact that the Kildare seniors nominated Kilkenny as their home venue v Dublin certainly didn't help the optics either.
Interesting minor Championship. Derry and Monaghan are on similar levels and were way ahead of Connaught. So is Ulster extremely strong or is Connaught extremely weak?
Kerry and Dublin are probably on a par based on their performances v Kildare and Cork.
Kerry are improving game on game but will need a huge improvement to beat Monaghan.
I feel it'll be a Derry-Monaghan All-Ireland final
At minor level Derry, Monaghan and Tyrone have/had very little between them this year. Derry are the team with the best defence with McEldowney outstanding at CHB and Cahair Spiers also excellent. Sargent at midfield really drives them on too. For the most part with the exception of the ulster final Derry have given up so few scoring opportunities and they demoralise most opposing teams such is their meanness. The ulster minor final was a classic with the editor of the Gaelic Life tweeting that there was 27 goal scoring chances. Both team's goalies made incredible saves in the final, especially the Derry keeper who saved at least 3 chances that looked like certain goals. Only Monaghan have really tested Derry though I feel Tyrone would have been their match too. Tyrone were very well coached, had some very strong running half forwards like Donaghy and had ran up some huge tallies in the ulster championship. Monaghan are a very physical side (which is unusual for them at minor level) with a few outstanding forwards; McGinnity, Finn and Mallen. On Wikipedia it says McGinnity is currently top scorer across the 4 provinces and Finn is also in top 10 (though nearly all of the latters is from play) but Mallen is the player who makes them tick. McGinnity is the son of former 90's Monaghan player Stephen McGinnity who some of ye might remember. I fully expect Derry to beat Dublin. Monaghan / Kerry will be very close. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's an all ulster final.
Fantastic finish by Dublin yesterday. With ten minutes to go they trailed by six points and looked dead and buried. But they dug so deep and turned a six point deficit into a three point win. Brilliant
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Fantastic finish by Dublin yesterday. With ten minutes to go they trailed by six points and looked dead and buried. But they dug so deep and turned a six point deficit into a three point win. Brilliant
The winning goal was a disaster for Cork but well finished by Dublin. The free to tie it was top class. The normal free taker (Cahill) had fluffed one from more or less the same spot just before and Mularkey just strolled over and took the ball off Cahill (who looked relieved:-)) Mularkey then nailed it. He made a huge impact when he came on.
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Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
The fact that the Kildare seniors nominated Kilkenny as their home venue v Dublin certainly didn't help the optics either.
Interesting minor Championship. Derry and Monaghan are on similar levels and were way ahead of Connaught. So is Ulster extremely strong or is Connaught extremely weak?
Kerry and Dublin are probably on a par based on their performances v Kildare and Cork.
Kerry are improving game on game but will need a huge improvement to beat Monaghan.
I feel it'll be a Derry-Monaghan All-Ireland final
Connacht while clearly not as strong as last year would not be extremely weak. Was a big gap against the Ulster finalists yesterday in physical stakes and I've seen similar happen in the Hogan cup this year when Omagh CBS powered their way past some decent opposition. I think if Mayo and Galway was playing against Leinster or Munster finalists yesterday they would be more competitive games. I also I feel it'll be a Derry-Monaghan All-Ireland final.
Quote from: Sleater on June 11, 2023, 09:59:38 AM
At minor level Derry, Monaghan and Tyrone have/had very little between them this year. ......
Maybe now there is little between them but Derry trounced Monaghan earlier in the Ulster Championship group stage, 1-14 to 0-6.
Monaghan have made up a lot of ground and look to be still improving.
I´m gobsmacked by the technical standard and fitness of these kids. For instance, a monaghan lad coverted a 45 against a considerable wind with plenty to spare. Until Beggan came along I don't recall a Monaghan senior converting a 45 this century and that includes Paul Finlay / Conor McManus.
Derry are the team to beat I think, even against Kerry in a final. Monaghan took them to extra time and penalties but needed goals to do it. Dublin looked beat at the weekend, only for a dodgy decision or two; expect Derry to turn them over. Monaghan themselves are a credit, playing some serious football with a panel picked from fewer than 20 minor club teams. I hope they make the final.
Any dates times and venues for the semi finals yet???
This Saturday.
Kerry v Monaghan, O'Connor Park, 2.30pm, TG4
Sunday
Dublin v Derry, Athletic Grounds, 5.30pm, TG4
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
How big of crowd is expected for Monaghan v Kildare senior game? not many Kildare supporters will watch the minor game I'd say. Be interesting to see what size of crowd will attend the AI final this year on July 8th in provincial venue. Last years final between Galway and Mayo had 13,000 at it in Hyde Park.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Definitely. This is after dragging Kerry minors to Kilkenny for the Kildare game already. Very unfair.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Not entirely fair, but Kerry got the benefit of this over the years, while Monaghan probably never did (although other Ulster supporters probably cheered for them).
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Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Not entirely fair, but Kerry got the benefit of this over the years, while Monaghan probably never did (although other Ulster supporters probably cheered for them).
Not since minor was changed to 16 and 17 year olds
Mighty win for the Monaghan youngsters, though it was helter skelter for the last 10 minutes.
That's not the first own goal Monaghan have scored from the 45 line at the last kick of a half.
Great stuff by the young lads earlier, massive win. A fortunate goal was the difference but I think we were well worth the win overall. Some real quality in that team, we'll be seeing a few of them line out for the seniors in a few years.
Special word for Dermot Malone, only retired from the county team last year and now he's managed the minors to the AI final, fantastic start to a managerial career
When's the last time Monghan made an all-Ireland final? They had a couple of good minor teams which won Ulster/ Ulster finals but can't remember how far they got.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2023, 06:52:46 PM
When's the last time Monghan made an all-Ireland final? They had a couple of good minor teams which won Ulster/ Ulster finals but can't remember how far they got.
At any level?
The ladies have been there.
For the men it was in the early 1930's after they beat Kildare in the sf. They were mauled by Kerry in the final, legend has it that there were 2 Monaghan men left standing at the end, both Ballybay men.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2023, 06:52:46 PM
When's the last time Monghan made an all-Ireland final? They had a couple of good minor teams which won Ulster/ Ulster finals but can't remember how far they got.
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Last minor AI final was 1939
The sooner the minors are back on as a curtain raiser to the senior all Ireland the better! Loved getting in for the minor game on final day and it must have been some buzz for the young lads playing at HQ in front of a full house.
The David Clifford final is bound to have been the best ever minor performance??
Of course it is, but they need move minor back to 18. There seems to be abit of difference in sizes of minor players, Kerry I thought had a very big team.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2023, 09:51:20 PM
Of course it is, but they need move minor back to 18. There seems to be abit of difference in sizes of minor players, Kerry I thought had a very big team.
I take it that these minors are not in their leaving cert year.
How could they manage 15 or so county games from February onward and yet have the leaving cert to prepare for as well?
Quote from: JimStynes on June 24, 2023, 09:47:42 PM
The sooner the minors are back on as a curtain raiser to the senior all Ireland the better! Loved getting in for the minor game on final day and it must have been some buzz for the young lads playing at HQ in front of a full house.
The David Clifford final is bound to have been the best ever minor performance??
I'd rather see tailtean cup final as the curtain raiser - there's no doubting that it's an unbelievable experience for the minors getting to play before an AIF, but who is more deserving, the likes of a John heslin after 12 years of toil or a David Clifford starting on his journey?
I'm all for minor games being played as curtain raiders, but no need for it to be before the final.
And I'd fully support the move back to 18, the leaving cert/a-level argument is nonsense, as I'm sure many on here dan attest to, there's plenty of time for both.
Disappointing result for Kerry. Horrible error by the keeper for the decisive goal and just before HT too. I did think Monaghan were marginally better on the day though having watched it back. Kerry will rue some of the wasted possessions and a few other errors. I thought the keeper lost his nerve a bit and just belted every kickout long for a finish but they are 16/17 so hard to blame them too much. Minor needs to go back to 18 as people have said here. GAA people up and down the country know it, just the few in the Ivory tower of Croke park won't acknowledge it.
I sorta see it just as another money racket, 20euro yesterday!.
geoblocked on the tg4 player in the north. Shite
Derry were straight through on goal there if that lad had passed to the extra player on the left.
Both teams making poor basic mistakes here, especially when shooting
Derry running into too many 2/3 men tackles, silly!. Dublin missed about 4 good chances. Derry normally wouldn't play as open as this.
Dublin No. 12 is killing us, need a change there.
The goals are living charmed lives here
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
Dublin No. 12 is killing us, need a change there.
He missed again.
He not miss much longer, been through 4 times, he should clocked about a goal 3, Can't leave the same man on him to half time.
If that's a card it's black not yellow.
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If that's a card it's black not yellow.
Would agree with that.
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If that's a card it's black not yellow.
Would agree with that.
Same. Was wondering if any rules are different than seniors? Maybe just 30 minute halves?
what happened there? just turned back on to see goalie sent off
Quote from: markl121 on June 25, 2023, 06:19:56 PM
what happened there? just turned back on to see goalie sent off
He boxed a Dublin lad in the back of the head on the way off it seemed!
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what happened there? just turned back on to see goalie sent off
Keeper clipped a boy coming off at half time. Would not have happened if the officials were doing their job.
Derry down to 14 then?
Aye they are.
Should have been a black card there too!!
Doesn't matter what the officials done, that was as stupid as you get, likely cost Derry the game. Instead of rushing in, why the Derry management not take the team to the side.
Dublin getting away with being very cynical.
Derry keeper was very silly.
Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Def foot block, surprised the ref got it. Derry need Higgins to stand up here, He's there most physical forward.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 25, 2023, 06:31:42 PM
Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
That's the definition of a foot block a great spot by the ref!
Derry sorta woke up.
Why these blocking the runs yellow and not black, that's about the 3rd one.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2023, 06:30:18 PM
Dublin getting away with being very cynical.
Derry keeper was very silly.
Keeper got a shoulder and push by two Dublin players as he was going down the tunnel, he stupidly reacted and threw a shitty punch at the next Dublin player. The Dublin no.7 (who was booked for a dirty body check earlier) then pushed the keeper into the linesman (who wasn't looking) and probably thought the keeper had them attacked him.
Usually stupid tunnel shenanigans.
How work that free, everyone the keeper tried to get the hand and toe to it, he was getting kicked.
All Ireland Ulster final.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 25, 2023, 06:43:49 PM
All Ireland Ulster final.
If it is, probably be back in Armagh?
Dublin would leave the odd fist in.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 06:46:20 PM
Dublin would leave the odd fist in.
Noticeable difference after them yellows.
McGuckin is ridiculously good for this age... the only time anyone has laid a glove on him has been to foul him!!
Very mature second half performance fair play them well deserved. Dublin did some amount of fouling probably 3/1 compared to Derry!
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Brilliant second half from Doire. Mc Guckian took a lot of abuse. The ref was out of shape and out of his depth.
Well done to Derry. By far better team and raised their game after Dublin goal. Dublin lack of composure on goal chances in first 10 minutes proved costly.
Some fabulous players on that Derry team. Some of them try to ride one tackle too many rather than moving the ball on but Christ you'd never have known they were a man down with the running they did.
Quote from: screenexile on June 25, 2023, 06:51:42 PM
McGuckin is ridiculously good for this age... the only time anyone has laid a glove on him has been to foul him!!
Very mature second half performance fair play them well deserved. Dublin did some amount of fouling probably 3/1 compared to Derry!
He was brilliant.
Sargent too.
Hoalie will be sick at missing an all Ireland final for a moment t of silliness.
No. 6 is there best fballer, Fairly strong at Midfield too. That's about the 3 strong minor teams in a 4yr period. Derry need look at the U19 set up within the county. We seem drop off slightest when these lads move up. Had Murray, McAvoy been playing the U-20's this Yr we probably won that Ulster final.
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McGuckin is ridiculously good for this age... the only time anyone has laid a glove on him has been to foul him!!
Very mature second half performance fair play them well deserved. Dublin did some amount of fouling probably 3/1 compared to Derry!
He was brilliant.
Sargent too.
Hoalie will be sick at missing an all Ireland final for a moment t of silliness.
Sargent and mcguckian the pick of a v strong group for me. Glen be hard to work with with them 2 mcguckians buzzin round in couple years time
Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
Was Higgins injured the day, as Boyle started?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
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Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
It was a bit but I did laugh.
Technically if he was subbed off already and got the red, should we have been down to 14?
Perhaps grounds for appeal?
I trust the Dublin No 7 will receive due sanctions for his stamp on the Derry goalkeeper in the second half - he had already been booked. Very clear on TG4 coverage.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Have you spoken to many physios about the injury a foot block causes?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
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Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
It was a bit but I did laugh.
Technically if he was subbed off already and got the red, should we have been down to 14?
Perhaps grounds for appeal?
Crafty move! But Derry were superb after Dublin equalised
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Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
It was a bit but I did laugh.
Technically if he was subbed off already and got the red, should we have been down to 14?
Perhaps grounds for appeal?
Crafty move! But Derry were superb after Dublin equalised
Derry were outstanding. Hopefully those who hit the Derry goalkeeper (isolated as a Derry player on 7 Dub subs) will also now face sanctions. We will wait and see.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
I only saw the 2nd half, Derry were not just impressive but totally imperious.
I'm happy enough that they won, so now we can finally have the replay of the drawn game ;)
I take it the goalie is out of the final? that's a tough one to take.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 07:02:34 PM
No. 6 is there best fballer, Fairly strong at Midfield too. That's about the 3 strong minor teams in a 4yr period. Derry need look at the U19 set up within the county. We seem drop off slightest when these lads move up. Had Murray, McAvoy been playing the U-20's this Yr we probably won that Ulster final.
Who's fault is that?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
Keep watching soccer then and if you still don't remember maybe make a doctor's appointment?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
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All Ireland Ulster final.
If it is, probably be back in Armagh?
I would say so.
Is this the first all ulster All Ireland minor final ?
I WOild imagine it will be in Armagh , as last years between Galway and Mayo was in Roscommon.
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All Ireland Ulster final.
If it is, probably be back in Armagh?
I would say so.
Is this the first all ulster All Ireland minor final ?
I WOild imagine it will be in Armagh , as last years between Galway and Mayo was in Roscommon.
Yes, had all Connacht final last year, All Munster final Tipp v Kerry in 2015 and All Leinster final in between Dublin v Meath and Laois.
Well if its not good for them to play before a big crowd in seniors, playing before a big crowd in Croker not help.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
That's the point. You might not like the rule but it is a rule and its up to the ref to enforce it. I don't like the pick up rule. I think its adds nothing to the game and I'd like if the men followed the women and scrapped it. However until they do I'll have to put up with it.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
That's the point. You might not like the rule but it is a rule and its up to the ref to enforce it. I don't like the pick up rule. I think its adds nothing to the game and I'd like if the men followed the women and scrapped it. However until they do I'll have to put up with it.
Are ye for real ?
The day the pick up rule goes, as per the women, im finished
Nothing against the woman's game but there's nothing as amuetirish looking as that
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
Absolutely, the ref was 100% correct to apply the law. My gripe is with the rule not the ref.
You'd be happy then if players all over the pitch decided to throw their feet towards the ball in GAA cause you see it in soccer and feel it's ok?
The same soccer that players when they get tickled in the ear throw themselves down and roll about?
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You'd be happy then if players all over the pitch decided to throw their feet towards the ball in GAA cause you see it in soccer and feel it's ok?
The same soccer that players when they get tickled in the ear throw themselves down and roll about?
Strawmanning? :) Stick to reffing, to debate rationally is not your thing. You obviously have not seen John Giles tackling like a combine harvester.
What does the rule actually state regarding the foot block?
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2023, 10:25:51 PM
You'd be happy then if players all over the pitch decided to throw their feet towards the ball in GAA cause you see it in soccer and feel it's ok?
The same soccer that players when they get tickled in the ear throw themselves down and roll about?
Strawmanning? :) Stick to reffing, to debate rationally is not your thing. You obviously have not seen John Giles tackling like a combine harvester.
You brought soccer into it. Stick to the subject
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
That's the point. You might not like the rule but it is a rule and its up to the ref to enforce it. I don't like the pick up rule. I think its adds nothing to the game and I'd like if the men followed the women and scrapped it. However until they do I'll have to put up with it.
Are ye for real ?
The day the pick up rule goes, as per the women, im finished
Nothing against the woman's game but there's nothing as amuetirish looking as that
OK - we'll agree to differ on that but the point is that its a rule and even though we mighn't like it, its still a rule and its the refs job to enforce the rules
It's an easy one to enforce... there was a few 'throw' balls today, seems the bogballers are copying the hurlers
The main thing is that the Dublin No 7 is sanctioned for his deliberate stamp on a Derry player.
That second half was a good a performance as as team could want. It was brilliant from the lads.
Final confirmed for 9th July at 1pm in armagh
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Incredible scoring from young mcginnity - is he Stephen's son?
Monaghan scores very concentrated versus a big spread of scorers from Derry.
The two of them seem to be well ahead of the rest (tyrone aside) - you'd really have to question the need for penalties at this level - why the need to rush this to a finish this weekend?
Hope it's a good game and you wouldn't begrudge Monaghan an all Ireland win if it comes to that!!
Big difference in the scores conceded. Derry by 5 for me.
Wonder what sort of a crowd to expect for this. Many of yous going?
How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
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How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Not as far a drive but still 20 euro a head for the minors
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How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Not as far a drive but still 20 euro a head for the minors
Fuel, food and so on..still, these days don't last forever
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How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Not as far a drive but still 20 euro a head for the minors
Fuel, food and so on..still, these days don't last forever
Indeed, even my ma is going to croker next week, she hasn't been since the 98 semi final.
Yip going to the minors.
Will Higgins play?
Novel All Ulster All Ireland pairing should be producing a decent crowd in attendance. Sunday afternoon should be suitable for most. Last year the All Ireland final between Galway and Mayo was played on Friday evening yet near 13,000 turned up for that final.
Not easy to beat the same team 3 times in one campaign as Mayo found out last year.
Having a team last year beat 3 times and still fit to contest a all-Ireland in my opinion is wrong, Mayo lost one game all year.
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Haven't a team beat 3 times and still fit to contest a all-Ireland in my opinion is wrong, Mayo lost one game all year.
Monaghan have only been beaten twice haven't they? And one was penalties. Mayo had a chance to beat Monaghan and we're beaten very handy Monaghan we'll deserve to be in this AIF!
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Haven't a team beat 3 times and still fit to contest a all-Ireland in my opinion is wrong, Mayo lost one game all year.
Monaghan have only been beaten twice haven't they? And one was penalties. Mayo had a chance to beat Monaghan and we're beaten very handy Monaghan we'll deserve to be in this AIF!
Two defeats for Monaghan both to Derry this yer.
Galway lost three times last year (twice to Mayo,and a defeat to Leitrim) yet went on to win the All Ireland beating Mayo in the final which was Mayo's only defeat all year.
Where in or around Croke Park will be showinv this minor final?
Anybody know?
Good luck to Derry players and management in today's final. They have the individual quality and teamwork on the field to win this.
Bru House in Fairview showed last years semi final if over that direction form Croke Park.
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Where in or around Croke Park will be showinv this minor final?
Anybody know?
the auld triangle had minor games on last year
Good luck to my cousins in Monaghan the McEnaneneys. Go, Monaghan bring Sam home.
Derry for Tom and Sam
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2023, 05:29:04 PM
How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Was in town there earlier and Monaghan are there in big numbers. The gates to the CBS car park weren't open so gridlock was starting.
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
Quote from: Brendan on July 09, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
Where are you based? Time to get a dodgy stick lad
Quote from: Brendan on July 09, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
The problem is your Internet service provider not recording your location properly.
TG4 will work in Ireland, try a mobile device or a tablet with a GPS in it.
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Quote from: Brendan on July 09, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
The problem is your Internet service provider not recording your location properly.
TG4 will work in Ireland, try a mobile device or a tablet with a GPS in it.
I cast to a chromecast from my phone, like I say there is days it works using the exact same devices, by the time throw in comes you don't know if it'll work on the day or not
Edit- In the 6 counties btw
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2023, 05:29:04 PM
How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Was in town there earlier and Monaghan are there in big numbers. The gates to the CBS car park weren't open so gridlock was starting.
Serious crowd, I presume the shed is pretty full also Those big GAA yokes are actually taking up useful space, are they to stop people jeering at penalties?
Looks like a near capacity crowd in Athletic Grounds. Why the need for those big GAA banners behind the goal taking up space where supporters should be standing?
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Looks like a near capacity crowd in Athletic Grounds. Why the need for those big GAA banners behind the goal taking up space where supporters should be standing?
In this electronic age they already knew the crowd size yesterday for the most part, they should have removed them, they might be appropriate in a half empty ground but not in an almost full one.
Half time Derry 0-8 Monaghan 0-6. Deserved half time lead for Derry, scores coming easier for them.
Completely deserved to go.. dirty action from Derry 5
I know that fella is young but that was a deserved red card. What was he at.
Harsh!!
Would need to see it again but looked harsh!
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Harsh!!
Not harsh at all.
Derry remain more efficient in the final score though.
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Harsh!!
Get away with that, knew what he was at.
Is somebody really stupid enough to do that on purpose in an AIF?
45 mins played 14 man Derry 0-11 Monaghan 0-7
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Harsh!!
Get away with that, knew what he was at.
Is somebody really stupid enough to do that on purpose in an AIF?
Yes, no question, absolutely stupid and well earned red card.
Goal for Derry. 1-11 to 0-7
Monaghans easy concession of kickout to Derry has killed them .. Monaghan no presence around the middle
Monaghan shooting and shot selection against the wind is atrocious.
This is going more like the group stage game than the Ulster final for Monaghan. Sending off could have been a lifeline however it's made Derry more focused and clinical.
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Harsh!!
Not harsh at all.
Derry remain more efficient in the final score though.
Harsh in that it would often be let go, but deserved, no need or place for that sort of shite
Wouldn't fancy marking that wee boy mcguckian. Never stops.
Ref doing his best to spoil this game, put your bloody hand down ffs, blowing frees every 15secs.
Serious performance from the Derry lads... very well deserved!
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Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2023, 02:00:11 PM
Harsh!!
Not harsh at all.
Derry remain more efficient in the final score though.
Watched it back again while I don't think there was intent it was definitely dangerous and the right call. Thankfully it didn't impact the result as Derry are by far the better team here.
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Full time Derry 1-13 Monaghan 0-9. Congratulations to Derry their 2nd U17 All-Ireland title in the last few years.
As for Monaghan didn't take advantage of the extra man for the last 20 minutes. Shooting and shot selection poor just 9 scores from 24 shots.
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
Derry great wee team. Sending off galvanised them. Two minors in four years some going. Hopefully the young fella learns from that because you can't be doing that.
Hard luck to Monaghan. I think the occasion got to them a bit too.
Attendance of 13,754 in the Athletic Grounds this afternoon.
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Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
Well done Derry. Best team won and by beating monaghan 3 times in one season shows their superiority. But well done to dermot malone and his monaghan team. Brought us to a place where we've never been before in most of our lifetime Great season. Very proud of everyone involved
Quote from: 5times5times on July 09, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
Ref doing his best to spoil this game, put your bloody hand down ffs, blowing frees every 15secs.
Sure, blame the ref......
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
There always seems to be a Higgins from magherafelt on these minor teams. Must be quite a few of them.
Pretty much Derry were in control all of the game, they were well structured and imposing and disappointingly Monaghan did not measure up to that standard on the day as they did v Mayo.
The ref was poor I doubt he can or could hack it at senior level, about the only real decision he got right was the stonewall red card, but no kudos seeing as it was so obvious. Why can't one of the top senior refs be appointed to ref an AI final? instead we got a minor ref.
Quote from: befair on July 09, 2023, 02:37:31 PM
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
Completely agree with that - there's a lot of talk about this grade being developmental etc, but logically, for a lot of these guys this is the pinnacle of their football careers, something they'll always remember and a great achievement in its own right.
That's another reason why I don't follow the logic of not playing these games as a curtain raiser to all Ireland final or semi, this is the only chance the majority of players on display today will ever have of playing in croker park before a big crowd. I've yet to come across anyone who supports the route we've gone with that, do how come in a democratic organisation, it remains? Do I just talk to the wrong people??
Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2023, 02:45:13 PM
Pretty much Derry were in control all of the game, they were well structured and imposing and disappointingly Monaghan did not measure up to that standard on the day as they did v Mayo.
The ref was poor I doubt he can or could hack it at senior level, about the only real decision he got right was the stonewall red card, but no kudos seeing as it was so obvious. Why can't one of the top senior refs be appointed to ref an AI final? instead we got a minor ref.
A rare opportunity for a Monaghan all Ireland.
At least the women won those football titles .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YokX0SGd1pI
A beautiful style of football a very log way from the current mens orthodoxy in Ulster.
They were different because they believed they could win.
Derry were just at a level higher than monaghan
Some fantastic wee footballers and very well drilled.
No panic after the sending off, in fact they all stepped up.
By far the better side.
Ref was erratic I would say, some very strange calls then let some obvious fouls go on both sides.
Future looks good for Derry football.
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Quote from: befair on July 09, 2023, 02:37:31 PM
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
Completely agree with that - there's a lot of talk about this grade being developmental etc, but logically, for a lot of these guys this is the pinnacle of their football careers, something they'll always remember and a great achievement in its own right.
That's another reason why I don't follow the logic of not playing these games as a curtain raiser to all Ireland final or semi, this is the only chance the majority of players on display today will ever have of playing in croker park before a big crowd. I've yet to come across anyone who supports the route we've gone with that, do how come in a democratic organisation, it remains? Do I just talk to the wrong people??
I'd suspect you do alright.
Most people have no problems with Minor Finals in a Provincial ground.
At least 10,000 of those there today wouldn't get to see the game if it was on with the Senior Final.
Did I hear the RnaG commentator right saying it's the first time an AI football final was played in thec6 Cos?
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Pretty much Derry were in control all of the game, they were well structured and imposing and disappointingly Monaghan did not measure up to that standard on the day as they did v Mayo.
The ref was poor I doubt he can or could hack it at senior level, about the only real decision he got right was the stonewall red card, but no kudos seeing as it was so obvious. Why can't one of the top senior refs be appointed to ref an AI final? instead we got a minor ref.
A rare opportunity for a Monaghan all Ireland.
At least the women won those football titles .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YokX0SGd1pI
A beautiful style of football a very log way from the current mens orthodoxy in Ulster.
They were different because they believed they could win.
I take it you don't watch Galway or Roscommon at all then?
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
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Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
0-12 of Derry's 1-13 score came from their forward line today and Ger Dillon 0-32,Conall Higgins 2-22,Eamon Young 3-15, John Boyle 0-21 and Oisin Doherty 1-12 was the scoring from their forwards in this Minor championship. No forward line??
Has mcguckian not scored? He's near the best of the lot?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2023, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2023, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
0-12 of Derry's 1-13 score came from their forward line today and Ger Dillon 0-32,Conall Higgins 2-22,Eamon Young 3-15, John Boyle 0-21 and Oisin Doherty 1-12 was the scoring from their forwards in this Minor championship. No forward line??
Did he mean Monaghan has no forward line?
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2023, 06:09:18 PM
Has mcguckian not scored? He's near the best of the lot?
Didn't score today, 3-5 he scored in this championship.
Congratulations to Derry
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
Yeah signs are good. Say on average 3 out of each team make the step up to senior County level, we should have plenty of talent coming through.
Brilliant win today.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2023, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: befair on July 09, 2023, 02:37:31 PM
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
Completely agree with that - there's a lot of talk about this grade being developmental etc, but logically, for a lot of these guys this is the pinnacle of their football careers, something they'll always remember and a great achievement in its own right.
That's another reason why I don't follow the logic of not playing these games as a curtain raiser to all Ireland final or semi, this is the only chance the majority of players on display today will ever have of playing in croker park before a big crowd. I've yet to come across anyone who supports the route we've gone with that, do how come in a democratic organisation, it remains? Do I just talk to the wrong people??
I'd suspect you do alright.
Most people have no problems with Minor Finals in a Provincial ground.
At least 10,000 of those there today wouldn't get to see the game if it was on with the Senior Final.
Did I hear the RnaG commentator right saying it's the first time an AI football final was played in thec6 Cos?
Might try and set up a poll cos you're the first person I've come across who is in favour.
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 09, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2023, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2023, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
0-12 of Derry's 1-13 score came from their forward line today and Ger Dillon 0-32,Conall Higgins 2-22,Eamon Young 3-15, John Boyle 0-21 and Oisin Doherty 1-12 was the scoring from their forwards in this Minor championship. No forward line??
Did he mean Monaghan has no forward line?
probably, looks like a typo in rereading it, left out the word Monaghan.
Didn't know the half bck Campbell was former Donegal player Paddy Campbell lad.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Too many of that team didn't come through who were good enough for the County, John Mulholland should been starting Midfield after McGilligan went, Rory McEldowney went off to soccer, and Eunan O'Kane got injured. Skelly probably if he been at a senior club made it to.
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on July 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Coleman, Tohill and Heaney started
Burns came on as a sub
Diamond and Bateson were on the bench.
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2023, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on July 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Coleman, Tohill and Heaney started
Burns came on as a sub
Diamond and Bateson were on the bench.
How did that team get on in U21's? Think that age group is more important than minor.
Tyrone beat them by a point in either Maghera or Lavey( they were coming of 2 All-Ireland finals, can't remember if they won it that year) , was at it but so long ago, I can't remember, should won the game though, I think a bad goal was give aeay.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 10, 2023, 09:14:46 AM
Tyrone beat them by a point in either Maghera or Lavey( they were coming of 2 All-Ireland finals, can't remember if they won it that year) , was at it but so long ago, I can't remember, should won the game though, I think a bad goal was give aeay.
Definitely Maghera. I genuinely don't think that under-21 was a priority for Derry back then.
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2023, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on July 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Coleman, Tohill and Heaney started
Burns came on as a sub
Diamond and Bateson were on the bench.
forgot about him !! how bad is that ;D
Won U21 Ulster in '93. Beat Down in the final, at the Athletic Grounds.
Some of the '89 minors were still available. The likes of Burns, Diamond etc played on that team.
Beat by Meath in the semi final in Castleblaney. Geraghty was whb for Meath that day.. I think
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2023, 09:30:30 AM
Won U21 Ulster in '93. Beat Down in the final, at the Athletic Grounds.
Some of the '89 minors were still available. The likes of Burns, Diamond etc played on that team.
Beat by Meath in the semi final in Castleblaney. Geraghty was whb for Meath that day.. I think
Gary Coleman, would have been still been under 21 in 93 & Dermot Dougan also played that day ( Dougie &Karl Diamond were on the bench in 1989 but were still under 16 )
few anoraks on here and i mean that as a compliment 😃
Id be of similar vintage but wouldnt have half the memory of some you guys
89 team was some team
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 09, 2023, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
Yeah signs are good. Say on average 3 out of each team make the step up to senior County level, we should have plenty of talent coming through.
Brilliant win today.
They're only U17s, so it'll be 4-6 years before they come through. Big step up.
Be interesting to see how this panel progresses with club and county over the next 10 years. Good for a case study in regards to underage development to senior football.
Will many come through?
Will more of this age group come through, who were not on this wider panel?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Derry played much better yesterday than they did in the Ulster Final.
Monaghan were a shadow of what they were in that game and the game against Mayo.
I know they kicked a lot of wides but they just weren't the same team.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 10, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
few anoraks on here and i mean that as a compliment 😃
Id be of similar vintage but wouldnt have half the memory of some you guys
89 team was some team
some players who practically disappeared after that who were mainstays of that team and very good players
Coleman only 1 of back 7 to make it.
Paddy, Simpson, Skelly, McGonigle, Martin, OConnor - did they represent Derry at senior level at all ? maybe a league game here and there but dont remember
Big John at midfield played a few league games
James Lynn and McEldowney, dont think so
Watched some parts of the game back. There was a serious crowd from Monaghan there. At the game, I thought it was about 3/1 on the support side of things, but seeing the full stand it was probably closer to 5/1. They certainly gave their team some support, even during the warm up, clapping them going over and back across the pitch.
Derry controlled most of the game yesterday, there was some brief threats from McGinnity and Finn, but I felt Derry kept them at arms length. We were in a good position at half time, 2pts up and with the breeze in the second half. The free off the ground (with the breeze) from Finn was some hit, could have landed it from 10yds further back.
On the sending off, its one of those that you'd probably try to defend your own player, saying he was stumbling and falling over someone who had just fallen in front of them. If he isn't your man, you'd say he meant to do damage and knew what he was doing. I'd say the ref was right on this one, though think the linesman on the far side was the one who made the call.
After that, I think that Monaghan had a couple of wides and maybe one dropped short. If any of those went over the Monaghan crowd would've lifted the roof off. The shot selection, into the wind, was v poor. Too many bad wides, and dropped short.
But the goal killed the game for Derry, was strange to see a team with an extra man, caught out completely at the back on a long kick out, fielded by Higgins in midfield, quick hand pass, and it was man to man on the run in, and one of them had to chase back to get close to Sargent. Doherty done extremely well to hold off his marker and draw the keeper, and it was an easy finish.
Superb result. And another great lift for Derry.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 10, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
few anoraks on here and i mean that as a compliment 😃
Id be of similar vintage but wouldnt have half the memory of some you guys
89 team was some team
some players who practically disappeared after that who were mainstays of that team and very good players
Coleman only 1 of back 7 to make it.
Paddy, Simpson, Skelly, McGonigle, Martin, OConnor - did they represent Derry at senior level at all ? maybe a league game here and there but dont remember
Big John at midfield played a few league games
James Lynn and McEldowney, dont think so
Aye always weird who makes it, Mulholland and McGonigle both excellent club players, Paddy too of course lol.
Think Rory left for USA v soon after, dont mind hearin much more about Lyn who was excellent from memory
Top scorers in the championship.
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Great story and connections. Doire abú!
Was at that Castleblaney one too, played decent against Meath best U-21 Team. Ventured on to Jody Devine club for Derry v Meath Challenge game. The nite the garda were called lol.
Is there many from either side back again next year?
Had a look at the 2022 Ulster Minor Final and Derry only had 4 from the panel that played against Tyrone that day, available again this year: McEldowney, McGuckian, Higgins and Spiers. Think Boyle was part of the wider panel last year.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 05:57:18 PM
Top scorers in the championship.
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Ger Dillon underage again next year. 8)
Quote from: Estimator on July 13, 2023, 05:42:36 PM
Is there many from either side back again next year?
Had a look at the 2022 Ulster Minor Final and Derry only had 4 from the panel that played against Tyrone that day, available again this year: McEldowney, McGuckian, Higgins and Spiers. Think Boyle was part of the wider panel last year.
Dillon, Sargent and Young definitely underage. Next year , I think Grant and McCloy are too
Aye Grant and Mc Cloy are.
Adrian Mc Guickan's cub is too.
I think there is 10 or 11 on the panel that are eligible next year.
Sargent from Lavey is some operator.
You already know Sargent be a senior county man at this stage already, he stands out the way Mark Lynch, James Keilt, did at this level.
2023 Electric Ireland Football Minor Star Team of the Year
1. Jamie Mooney (Monaghan and Cremartin Shamrocks)
2. Jack Lynch (Monaghan and Monaghan Harps)
3. Fionn McEldowney (Derry and Slaughtneil)
4. Eoin McGreal (Mayo and Garrymore)
5. Cahir Spiers (Derry and Magherafelt)
6. James Sargent (Derry and Lavey)
7. Ryan Mitchell (Dublin and Erin's Isle)
8. Ben Murphy (Kerry and Austin Stacks)
9. Tommy Rogers (Derry and Kilrea)
10. Seán Óg McElwain (Monaghan and Scotstown)
11. Tommy Mallen (Monaghan and Scotstown)
12. Johnny McGuckian (Derry and Watty Grahams Glen)
13. Conall Higgins (Derry and Magherafelt)
14. Matthew Finn (Monaghan and Emyvale)
15. Paddy Lane (Kerry and Austin Stacks)
McGuckian named player of the year.
Well deserved poty. Unplayable at times. It'll be interesting to see if Derry can fit him into the senior setup at some point with the role he plays.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 02:02:30 PM
Well deserved poty. Unplayable at times. It'll be interesting to see if Derry can fit him into the senior setup at some point with the role he plays.
He's probably only 17.
Give him a couple of years.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 03:46:37 PM
Yes, let's see how he goes at AFL first.
Not criticising the young fella in anyway but don't they usually go for taller players? He makes up for that in plenty of other ways of course
Quote from: Brendan on August 16, 2023, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 03:46:37 PM
Yes, let's see how he goes at AFL first.
Not criticising the young fella in anyway but don't they usually go for taller players? He makes up for that in plenty of other ways of course
What a post 😂
Written off at 17. Sure tell the brother to quit as well while we're here 😆
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 10:25:20 AM
Written off at 17. Sure tell the brother to quit as well while we're here 😆
Where did he write him off? Totally fair point by Brendan, and if anything a fact - they do go for bigger lads in Oz
Fair enough. I blame Walter. And jet lag. A dangerous combo 😃
Quote from: ClubScene13 on August 18, 2023, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 10:25:20 AM
Written off at 17. Sure tell the brother to quit as well while we're here 😆
Where did he write him off? Totally fair point by Brendan, and if anything a fact - they do go for bigger lads in Oz
Exactly. Brendan just posted what everybody else was thinking!!
Leinster final on tonight.
Dublin v Longford,O'Connor Park, 7.30pm
Connacht final on Friday
Roscommon v Mayo, Dr Hyde Park, 7:30pm
Ulster final on Sunday
Armagh v Derry, 1pm in Healy Park
Munster final already played with Kerry beating Cork
All Ireland Quarter finals are scheduled for June 8-9,
Kerry v Connacht runner up
Cork v Connacht winner
Ulster winner v Leinster runner up
Leinster winner v Ulster runner up
Semi-finals on June 22-23 and final on July 6-7.
All games will be covered on TG4.
Will also be tier 2 and 3 Minor All Ireland championships this year.
A few matches already played.
Tier 3 knockout
Westmeath 5-18 Carlow 0-4,
Offaly 0-13 Waterford 4-11,
Limerick 3-11 Fermanagh 0-8
Laois 4-16 Antrim 1-9
Meath 0-8 Down 2-16
Quarter finals Tier 3
Saturday May 25 - 2pm
Tipperary v Westmeath
Waterford v Laois
Limerick v Down
Sunday May 26 - 1pm
Leitrim v London
The tier 2 knockout competition has the following teams Louth,Kildare,Wexford,Wicklow,Clare.Tipp,Cavan,Monaghan,Tyone,Donegal,Sligo and Galway
Half time Longford 0-3 Dublin 1-4, Longford manager at the break very honest saying they are lucky to be still in the game and maybe the Leinster final occasion has got to his players.
45 minutes played Dublin 1-5 Longford 0-6. Longford hanging in there and thankfully Dublin 4 other goals chances ended up with no score.
Longford level it up in the 3rd minute of added time. 0-10 to 1-7 extra time to be played.
Longford kicking themselves out of this.
Me nerves
Longford one point ahead with 3 minutes of extra time to play.
Longford a point up, 5 minutes gone in the second period of extra time.
Longford 2 up with a minute left!
Well done Longford.
Hopefully, Armagh will be meeting Dublin rather than Longford.
Longford win their first Leinster U17/18 title since 2010. FT Longford 0-15 Dublin 1-10
Fantastic, well done Longford.
huge congrats to Longford. them young lads will get some great feeling out of that
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 20, 2024, 09:13:17 PMMe nerves
Well done Longford, enjoy the win shamrock. Thought the full back for Lonford was excellent. Great to see .
Well done to Longford. By far the better team.
Well done Longford the scenes at the end showed how much that title means to their players, management and supporters. Weathered the 1st half storm to outscored Dublin 0-12 to 0-6 after that.
Thought the Longford subs made a big difference in the game.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 20, 2024, 09:38:45 PMThought the Longford subs made a big difference in the game.
Cian O'Donnell had a big impact when re-introduced kicking two big points.
It's great, isn't it?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 20, 2024, 09:44:35 PMIt's great, isn't it?
Gerry Seavers from Dublin involved in Longford backroom team. Is he in Paddy Christie senior set up?
Well done Longford. Delighted to see that.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 20, 2024, 09:44:35 PMIt's great, isn't it?
We've got the power and the glory
We're going to take it from here
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 20, 2024, 09:13:17 PMMe nerves
Enjoy the celebrations lad. Nice speech by Longford captain.
Considering the resources in both counties that is a great victory for Longford
Well done the neighbours.
Didn't they bate Dublin in the Group stage as well?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2024, 11:17:06 PMWell done the neighbours.
Didn't they bate Dublin in the Group stage as well?
They did last month, which was Longfords first U17/U18 win against Dublin for 22 years.
Decent Connacht final tonight, Roscommon the better team 1st half but left to rue they were only level. Mayo the better team 2nd half and kicked on to win by 4 points.
Quarter final line up
Mayo v Cork
Roscommon v Kerry
Longford v Armagh or Derry
Dublin v Armagh or Derry
We made a lot of errors in that 2nd half which they punished.
They made very few.
2 weeks to prepare for Kerry and we'll see how it goes.
The 7 (or more!) games will certainly help in these lads' development as footballers and look forward to seeing them as u20s and some as County Seniors.
A lot of them from the smaller clubs, hopefully they can help make their clubs more competitive and give us some new nanes as Club Champions in the years ahead.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 11:33:50 PMWe made a lot of errors in that 2nd half which they punished.
They made very few.
2 weeks to prepare for Kerry and we'll see how it goes.
The 7 (or more!) games will certainly help in these lads' development as footballers and look forward to seeing them as u20s and some as County Seniors.
A lot of them from the smaller clubs, hopefully they can help make their clubs more competitive and give us some new nanes as Club Champions in the years ahead.
These lads are very young in the scheme of things - 16 and 17 year olds. I know plenty of lads who were fine footballers at this age and were not so good when senior level approached. In other cases some moved away from sport with Education, work, leisure activities, travelling and girlfriends taking center stage.
Naturally on the other side, there are a plethora on show tonight that will see very successful careers with their clubs and county.
A few results
All Ireland MFC Tier 2 knockout
Clare 1-7 Sligo 2-10
Cavan 2-9 Wicklow 2-5
Monaghan 0-9 Wexford 2-7
All-Ireland MFC Tier 3 quarter-finals
Limerick 0-7 Down 3-13
Tipperary 0-10 Westmeath 3-19
Derry v Armagh Ulster final starting at 1pm live on TG4.
Highly competitive 1st half between two well matched teams. Half time Armagh 1-3 Derry 0-7
Too me Derry way stronger and got all the play, maybe there a strong wond there.Abit of a pot luck with the long ball for the goal.
On another point, there nobody at these underage games. I was supposed to go, there alot of senior games, then alot of U20 and Minor games The big increase on games across the board might see increased attendance, but not against the number of games. Poor turn out U20 final, poor turn out this one, Should these games not be played before a qualifier or bck to the old days and the Ulster final.
Derry playing too much around the outside without really threatening. Could easily get caught on the break. Armagh giving away too many handy frees.
Dreadful game in my opinion. Pulling everyone back inside the 45 and the other team throwing it around in front of them. The number of backward passes is embarrassing. Sad to see young lads buying into this over-coached bollix. The only thing it has going for it is it might be a close finish. No wonder stadiums are empty.
Not much Derry can do, they toasted Armagh when they played open in a earlier game, Armagh played all behind the ball whole game, trying to catch Derry on a break.Derry are matching that set up. Goal was the only thing keeping Armagh in it.
That lad just dragged the Derry No.7 to the ground. Amazed that not a black card.
As blatant a black card as you could ever see. And the ref gives a yellow!?!
Quote from: Estimator on May 26, 2024, 02:15:31 PMAs blatant a black card as you could ever see. And the ref gives a yellow!?!
Such a clear black. Like a cop jumping on a burglar
Ref gonna play all day here?
Derry two point winners in the end and look like the team to beat in the All Ireland series. It's Longford for Armagh next and Dublin for Derry I'll be surprised if the two Ulster finalists don't progress to the All Ireland semi finals.
Quote from: Estimator on May 26, 2024, 02:15:31 PMAs blatant a black card as you could ever see. And the ref gives a yellow!?!
The Armagh minors could learn from the senior team who are more disciplined nowadays.
Derry the better team on balance, as expected.
Derry players in there 2nd year made the big difference there, they were all the scorers.Hard to know if they as good as last years team, they got a very good half back and half forward line, but not the same target man as Higgins last year.
Hard luck Armagh. Don't see Derry winning any All Ireland tbh, very easily nullified today by a team they beat by 17 pts a few weeks ago. Then again it's hard to know how the provinces measure up and if they'll give Derry the free reign to do what they like.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2024, 02:33:38 PMHard luck Armagh. Don't see Derry winning any All Ireland tbh, very easily nullified today by a team they beat by 17 pts a few weeks ago. Then again it's hard to know how the provinces measure up and if they'll give Derry the free reign to do what they like.
From what I've seen and similar to U20 this year Ulster appears to be the strongest province of the four.
Quote from: Sportacus on May 26, 2024, 02:07:32 PMDreadful game in my opinion. Pulling everyone back inside the 45 and the other team throwing it around in front of them. The number of backward passes is embarrassing. Sad to see young lads buying into this over-coached bollix. The only thing it has going for it is it might be a close finish. No wonder stadiums are empty.
Tell us how you would have set Armagh up to try to win the final today considering their last game? Just go for it?
Well done Mackers, big Gavin and squad. Dublin next
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2024, 02:33:38 PMHard luck Armagh. Don't see Derry winning any All Ireland tbh, very easily nullified today by a team they beat by 17 pts a few weeks ago. Then again it's hard to know how the provinces measure up and if they'll give Derry the free reign to do what they like.
Very strong Derry panel this year, will take a quare team to beat them. Armagh setup for damage limitation from the throw in and fair play to them. They put in some shift
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2024, 02:44:19 PMQuote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2024, 02:33:38 PMHard luck Armagh. Don't see Derry winning any All Ireland tbh, very easily nullified today by a team they beat by 17 pts a few weeks ago. Then again it's hard to know how the provinces measure up and if they'll give Derry the free reign to do what they like.
From what I've seen and similar to U20 this year Ulster appears to be the strongest province of the four.
In terms of the overall standard in the province I would agree.
I would say though that I fancy Mayo to win the All Ireland.
I've seen them a few times and they are very good.
That 5 out 8 finals for Derry in 10yrs and a semi final with a losing Ulster final team few yrs bck. Good going at underage. Need Start a big focus on the U20 level and let them play their level. We let a couple finals go past few yrs.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 26, 2024, 08:36:11 PMThat 5 out 8 finals for Derry in 10yrs and a semi final with a losing Ulster final team few yrs bck. Good going at underage. Need Start a big focus on the U20 level and let them play their level. We let a couple finals go past few yrs.
Heard a few ones say that Derry treat the U20 grade as a development one.
Play players that are more likely to make the step up to senior in the future ie. The best players just out of minor rather than the all 19 and 20 year olds.
Not sure if any truth to it.
Why is it then that minor games don't be played before Senior games now?
I heard the saying that it's not fair on the young lads to play in front of big crowds, but any 'proper' reasons?
As wild weasel said, there are a shitload of games on. Getting to watch them on tv is hard enough, never mind getting to go to them.
Quote from: theticklemister on May 27, 2024, 10:38:18 AMWhy is it then that minor games don't be played before Senior games now?
I heard the saying that it's not fair on the young lads to play in front of big crowds, but any 'proper' reasons?
As wild weasel said, there are a shitload of games on. Getting to watch them on tv is hard enough, never mind getting to go to them.
I suppose everyones different but for a lot of those young lads it's the biggest game they'll ever play in and might never play in front of a full stadium again. Play it before a senior game surely!
Quote from: theticklemister on May 27, 2024, 10:38:18 AMWhy is it then that minor games don't be played before Senior games now?
I heard the saying that it's not fair on the young lads to play in front of big crowds, but any 'proper' reasons?
As wild weasel said, there are a shitload of games on. Getting to watch them on tv is hard enough, never mind getting to go to them.
Was there not something about not wanting to pressurise the players playing in front of a big crowd? Load of nonsense. The best players will thrive in that environment and the others will learn loads from the experience!
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 27, 2024, 12:32:47 PMQuote from: theticklemister on May 27, 2024, 10:38:18 AMWhy is it then that minor games don't be played before Senior games now?
I heard the saying that it's not fair on the young lads to play in front of big crowds, but any 'proper' reasons?
As wild weasel said, there are a shitload of games on. Getting to watch them on tv is hard enough, never mind getting to go to them.
I suppose everyones different but for a lot of those young lads it's the biggest game they'll ever play in and might never play in front of a full stadium again. Play it before a senior game surely!
Absolutely agree with that - this will be the pinnacle of many of those lads Gaelic football careers - it's a great achievement for them and I'd be very surprised if there was a lad there who wouldn't rather be playing before a big games, rather than a stand alone fixture.
Same goes for those who talk of underage football as being a developmental pathway towards senior intercounty football - again that neglects the reality that simple mathematics means it's improbable that more than a few off any panel will progress to senior stardom. Let them enjoy the highest level they'll achieve and give them something to tell the kids about!!!
Last season's All Ireland final was played in front of a crowd of 13,754 at the Athletic Grounds - If it had been before a senior game in Croke Park there would be nowhere near the same atmosphere. This years Ulster Final on Sunday probably had less than 3000 - put that in Clones before a senior match and I doubt it would feel like a big game. I dont agree with the reasoning that young players shouldn't be subjected to the pressure of a big match but having them as standalone fixtures can make them more accessible. As it seem it is another GAA attempt to to reduce the importance of competitions and competitiveness at underage level. But at least you can get to watch the matches if you want and aren't subjected to the cost of a double header.
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/captain-speeches-and-interviews-no-longer-permitted-for-minor-players-329140?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0KjeX3OoUw3NeHLwigrWOZQe2-4hXsgWCXwRmnzfrJkSClW4VkFmJwYaw_aem_AZJ1KJ91jvFfg_WpYmLrjOqSszb2tm7J_CXHWNlxkOAno5TJ4RT_s7jAmE5nN45rW_cJG9al92MiCImnTUUflXJA
Not sure whether to put here or in the wtf thread.
At the end of the day, these are still children at minor.
Let them be kids I say.
Watched the Munster Final a few weeks back which finished Kerry 2-18 Cork 1-6.
Really don't think it would have benefitted anyone to have this game on in front of a senior Munster Final.
U20s I would be far more comfortable being in front of senior games if logistics allowed it.
Tier 2 Quarter finals this weekend
Saturday
Louth v Cavan 1pm
Galway v Kildare 2pm
Sligo v Donegal 2pm
Sunday
Tyrone v Wexford 6pm
Tier 3 Semi finals on Saturday
Westmeath v Laois 12:30pm
Down v Leitrim 1pm
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Not sure whether to put here or in the wtf thread.
Complete joke. Under 17 instead of 18, No speeches, no interviews, no playing before big crowds in provincial and national games and round robin and tiers.
Completely ruined competitions which were once fantastic. Sucked all life out of it. Tyrone Minors this year have played 9 games, lost 4, not one of our better teams and deservedly beaten by Derry in Ulster Semi and that should be the year over. But now have to enter a Tier 2 competition that no one wants to be in for potentially the next 3 weeks. Make it make sense.
Another Nordie against change ::)
Any idea when the Quarter Finals fixtures will be announced?
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 31, 2024, 10:47:59 AMnow have to enter a Tier 2 competition that no one wants to be in for potentially the next 3 weeks. Make it make sense.
U17 is Ultra development grade and players and management would want as many games as possible.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2024, 12:32:33 PMAny idea when the Quarter Finals fixtures will be announced?
On next weekend June 8th/9th now that's poor by HQ to not have venues and throw in times already set.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2024, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 31, 2024, 10:47:59 AMnow have to enter a Tier 2 competition that no one wants to be in for potentially the next 3 weeks. Make it make sense.
U17 is Ultra development grade and players and management would want as many games as possible.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2024, 12:32:33 PMAny idea when the Quarter Finals fixtures will be announced?
On next weekend June 8th/9th now that's poor by HQ to not have venues and throw in times already set.
Tyrone have played 9 games, enough for them to see where they are at and play a number of players in different positions and roles. The next 3 weeks is overkill and not one member of squad or management want to be involved in it.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 31, 2024, 02:03:53 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2024, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 31, 2024, 10:47:59 AMnow have to enter a Tier 2 competition that no one wants to be in for potentially the next 3 weeks. Make it make sense.
U17 is Ultra development grade and players and management would want as many games as possible.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2024, 12:32:33 PMAny idea when the Quarter Finals fixtures will be announced?
On next weekend June 8th/9th now that's poor by HQ to not have venues and throw in times already set.
Tyrone have played 9 games, enough for them to see where they are at and play a number of players in different positions and roles. The next 3 weeks is overkill and not one member of squad or management want to be involved in it.
Based on? and at U16/15 level these players have played more than 9 games. Does be a few HQ ran competitions they play in with B sections also.
If "no member of squad or management" wanted to be involved, wouldn't they have pulled out?
Galway,Kildare,Donegal,Tyrone some decent teams in the tier two section and all should take it serious and aim to win it.
All Ireland Quarter final set.
Saturday June 8th
Derry v Dublin,Breffni Park, 1pm
Longford v Armagh, Breffni Park, 3pm
Mayo v Cork, Cusack Park, Ennis, 4.30pm
Kerry v Roscommon, Cusack Park, Ennis 6.30pm
All games will be streamed live on TG4 YouTube.
All-Ireland Tier 2 quarter-finals
Galway 1-9 Kildare 1-13 AET
Sligo 0-7 Donegal 1-14
Louth 1-9 Cavan 4-14
Tyrone 4-16 Wexford 1-6 (played Monday Evening)
All-Ireland Tier 3 semi-finals
Down 5-19 Leitrim 1-12
Westmeath 4-12 Laois 1-14
More evidence that like U20 this year that Ulster is the strongest province.
Well done to Tyrone Minors on a 19 point win over Wexford in the All Ireland B Quarter Final. A massive help in the development of both sides.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 04, 2024, 09:58:49 AMWell done to Tyrone Minors on a 19 point win over Wexford in the All Ireland B Quarter Final. A massive help in the development of both sides.
How much did Dublin hamner Cavan by in the senior championship at the week-end?
Not sure what your point is?
Quote from: marty34 on June 04, 2024, 12:22:40 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 04, 2024, 09:58:49 AMWell done to Tyrone Minors on a 19 point win over Wexford in the All Ireland B Quarter Final. A massive help in the development of both sides.
How much did Dublin hamner Cavan by in the senior championship at the week-end?
Not sure what your point is?
Current structures are broken. People talking about as many games as possible for development. Give me a break.
The GAA needs to stop players playing games ::)
Not sure what the Wexford team are normally like but that was bad. Maybe Tyrone are that far ahead but it looked like we didn't get out of 2nd gear at times. Is that game really going to help the young lads more than a club game would? Wexford did have 2 or 3 good players in fairness but nowhere near where those Tyrone lads are at
Quote from: thebigfullforward on June 04, 2024, 02:59:41 PMNot sure what the Wexford team are normally like but that was bad. Maybe Tyrone are that far ahead but it looked like we didn't get out of 2nd gear at times. Is that game really going to help the young lads more than a club game would? Wexford did have 2 or 3 good players in fairness but nowhere near where those Tyrone lads are at
Wexford in Leinster this year. Group stage they finished 2nd by beating Carlow by 10 points and lost to Wicklow by one point. They faced Dublin in the Quarter final and lost 5-11 to 0-9
If there is to be a tiered minor championship, it shouldn't simply be for teams who had early championship exits, like Tyrone or mist of the other tier 2 teams this year. It should be for the teams that are far from the top minor standard.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2024, 02:34:16 PMThe GAA needs to stop players playing games ::)
No, they need to stop teams getting beaten.
Like in th'oul days of Refs engineering draws ;D ;D
The tier two All Ireland semi finals a double header this Saturday in Clones
Tyrone v Cavan 1pm
Donegal v Kildare 3pm
Tier 3 final on Saturday in Breffni park.
Down v Westmeath 5pm
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 04, 2024, 06:47:59 PMIf there is to be a tiered minor championship, it shouldn't simply be for teams who had early championship exits, like Tyrone or mist of the other tier 2 teams this year. It should be for the teams that are far from the top minor standard.
True. Similar to the B Championship in minor and u20 hurling.
TG4 covering the four Tier one All Ireland Quarter finals.
Tier Three Final live also
Derry's caught on the counter for that goal just as bad as their seniors was against Armagh,Donegal.
Derry all over them but not putting the scores on the board, even with giving away the goal, they should be ahead here.
Dublin playing a very deep counter attacking game, very undublin like.. Bit like Ulster teams.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 08, 2024, 01:21:25 PMDublin playing a very deep counter attacking game, very undublin like.. Bit like Ulster teams.
Not deep however have numbers back without the ball and counter attacking is very much part of their senior team setup.
Decent half of football in Breffni Park. Derry 0-8 Dublin 1-4
Level at the break in the Tier two semi final Tyrone 1-5 Cavan 0-8
Derry should be outta sight, missed a bagful. Probably come bck on them before the end of the game.
Derry only performing at a fraction of what they are capable of. Need to be more clinical in the second half.
Bad sigh minor can hit 50m frees and our seniors can't.
That was awful slack, 2 bad goals give away.
Derry asleep there, but surely that free didn't go 10 yards
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 08, 2024, 01:50:39 PMBad sigh minir can hit 50m frees and our seniors can't.
Was thinking we need him in seniors asap
2nd goal for Dublin, Derry caught napping on that free. 0-10 to 2-4 with 37 minutes played.
Ref blind there, lad arm pulled bck trying to solo there.
Derry kicked way too many wides. And the refs trying his best to keep Dublin in it.
Dublin level it up again with a free. 45 minutes played 2-6 to 0-12
Derry by far the better side but not taking their scores and gave away 2 very sloppy goals.
Dublin growing in confidence as a result.
Our cor er back, number 2, is getting a tough time in there
50 minutes played still level 2-8 to 0-14.
Lad got zero cover. Derry played way too open,and should operate with a sweeper. Wouldn't like to see the wide count, gotta be double digits now
five minutes to play and whatever time will be added. Derry 0-17 Dublin 2-9
Ref need take the blinkers off
3 pts up, and keeping nobody back, go figure.
Struggled to throw off a stubborn Dublin for long stages but Derry got there in the end by a margin of two points. FT Derry 0-18 Dublin 2-10
2 pts, should been by 8pts+,
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 08, 2024, 02:13:41 PMRef need take the blinkers off
He did his best to keep Dublin in it.
When Derry were only able to beat the Leinster runners up by two points what chance have Armagh got against the Leinster champions next :-\
Result in the Tier two All Ireland semi final. Cavan 0-16 Tyrone 1-10. The Ulster championship Quarter final Tyrone beat Cavan by 2 points.
2 goal chances butchered already for Armagh
Goal for Longford 1-2 to 0-4 after 17 minutes.
Armagh goal on the 29th minute gives them a 5 point lead.
Half time Armagh 1-7 Longford 1-2.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 08, 2024, 02:47:40 PMWhen Derry were only able to beat the Leinster runners up by two points what chance have Armagh got against the Leinster champions next :-\
They're doing rightly.
Great half by Armagh, looked to be playing into the the wind there as well?
Armagh well in control of this one. Probably should be further ahead.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 08, 2024, 03:33:08 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on June 08, 2024, 02:47:40 PMWhen Derry were only able to beat the Leinster runners up by two points what chance have Armagh got against the Leinster champions next :-\
They're doing rightly.
Could be further ahead wasted some goal chances and gave away a bad one. Armagh's athleticism appears too much for Longford.
Armagh cruising but a criminal amount of chances being missed
50 minutes played Armagh 1-11 Longford 1-3. Longford with their first score since the 17th minute which was their goal.
Full time Armagh 1-16 Longford 1-3. Like last year could we get two Ulster teams in the U17 All Ireland final?
One way traffic 2nd half the Armagh goal before half time seemed to knock the stuffing out of Longford. Play Mayo or Cork next?
I think its Mayo or Cork v Derry in the semifinal
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 08, 2024, 03:05:41 PMResult in the Tier two All Ireland semi final. Cavan 0-16 Tyrone 1-10. The Ulster championship Quarter final Tyrone beat Cavan by 2 points.
Other tier two semi final result. Kildare 3-12 Donegal 1-13. Final next weekend.
15 minutes played Mayo well in control against Cork 1-5 to 0-1.
Half time Mayo 2-8 Cork 0-3. Second Mayo goal right before the break from a penalty and a black for the Cork Keeper.
Cork not Physically up to the Mayo Challenge!
Quote from: maigheo on June 08, 2024, 04:27:18 PMI think its Mayo or Cork v Derry in the semifinal
Mayo v Armagh I believe. All too easy for Mayo in this game.
A 3rd Mayo goal 3-13 to 0-5. 9 minutes to play.
FT Mayo 3-14 Cork 0-6.
One way traffic in the last of the four Quarter finals in Ennis. Kerry 1-11 Roscommon 0-1. A surprise as the young rossies was competitive against Mayo in Connacht final two weeks ago. FT Kerry 2-18 to 2-3 winners.
Semi final line up
Armagh v Mayo
Kerry v Derry
Aw jases the poor lads.....
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 08, 2024, 07:08:30 PMOne way traffic in the last of the four Quarter finals in Ennis. Kerry 1-11 Roscommon 0-1. A surprise as the young rossies was competitive against Mayo in Connacht final two weeks ago. FT Kerry 2-18 to 2-3 winners.
Semi final line up
Armagh v Mayo
Kerry v Derry
There seems to be some confusion about who Mayo play next , is there anyplace that it can be checked ?
I believe blowitupref to be correct
He usually is.
For Kerry-Roscommon, the efficiency of the Kerry forwards was tremendous.
After 23 minutes it was Kerry 0-10 Roscommon 0-1.
Kerry had taken 10 attempts at scores, Roscommon had taken 6.
Rarely would you see a 10/10 success rate from the start and it was against a very strong wind to boot.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 10, 2024, 12:09:53 PMFor Kerry-Roscommon, the efficiency of the Kerry forwards was tremendous.
After 23 minutes it was Kerry 0-10 Roscommon 0-1.
Kerry had taken 10 attempts at scores, Roscommon had taken 6.
Rarely would you see a 10/10 success rate from the start and it was against a very strong wind to boot.
Any senior team wouldn't have efficiency rate like that. Derry will have to perform better than they did against Dublin to topple Kerry.
A strange anomaly in the Kerry-Roscommon was how spread apart Roscommon's points were and how close in proximity 4 goals were.
Roscommon got 3 points in total:
1st minute of 1st half
1st minute of 2nd half
63rd/final minute of 2nd half.
After the 50th minute, the next 4 scores were goals, 2 each, less than 4 minutes between the 1st and the 4th.
Tier 2 B All Ireland final on tomorrow Cavan v Kildare at 12:30pm in Navan. Why wasn't it a double header with Cavan senior game in Longford?
Link to watch on here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXjFuG6jdKs
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2024, 03:33:58 PMTier 2 B All Ireland final on tomorrow Cavan v Kildare at 12:30pm in Navan. Why wasn't it a double header with Cavan senior game in Longford?
Link to watch on here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXjFuG6jdKs
Because Kildare may have felt should be a double header with their seniors?
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 14, 2024, 06:28:51 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2024, 03:33:58 PMTier 2 B All Ireland final on tomorrow Cavan v Kildare at 12:30pm in Navan. Why wasn't it a double header with Cavan senior game in Longford?
Link to watch on here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXjFuG6jdKs
Because Kildare may have felt should be a double header with their seniors?
The Kildare seniors would have been bad example for their youth.
Result in the B All-Ireland final Kildare 2-12 Cavan 1-10.
Have dates, times and venues been decided for the minor semifinals?
Quote from: blanketattack on June 15, 2024, 08:26:32 PMHave dates, times and venues been decided for the minor semifinals?
Not yet, probably decided/published along with the Senior Prem Quarter finals tomorrow.
At at guess.
Armagh v Mayo in breffni park and Kerry v Derry in O'Connor Park
I was told Kerry v Derry is in Mullingar.
Quote from: GTP on June 16, 2024, 01:51:39 PMI was told Kerry v Derry is in Mullingar.
You were told right.
Saturday 1:30pm in Cusack Park
Mayo v Armagh Pearse Park on Sunday 5:30pm
Ref not giving us much here
He's actually shocking
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2024, 02:00:07 PMHe's actually shocking
I thought he was very good.
Pretty much every decision correct to me.
There was a free to Kerry, couple bck, where the Derry lad clearly fouled coming out and he gives a Kerry free for the nxt contact which was minimal.Derry missed 2 clear goals, and should be level at the bare minimum. Gonna have to change midfield, it's Sargent by himself in there.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2024, 02:04:58 PMThere was a free to Kerry, couple bck, where the Derry lad clearly fouled coming out and he gives a Kerry free for the nxt contact which was minimal.Derry missed 2 clear goals, and should be level at the bare minimum. Gonna have to change midfield, it's Sargent by himself in there.
Yeah Derry left at least one goal behind them and the Kerry goal was fierce cheap (zero marking) and the timing didn't help. I could see more goals in this.
Goalkeeper had a head stagger last year. And didn't get near the Kerry lad on the high kick in.
If there no change at Midfield they beat.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2024, 02:04:58 PMThere was a free to Kerry, couple bck, where the Derry lad clearly fouled coming out and he gives a Kerry free for the nxt contact which was minimal.Derry missed 2 clear goals, and should be level at the bare minimum. Gonna have to change midfield, it's Sargent by himself in there.
The Kerry keeper is very good to be fair.
But agree, MF is struggling, and we're getting opened up too easily at the back.
No free to Derry there, lad over carried.
Foul after foul from Kerry.
What a wasted chance.
Ref letting alot of over carrying go
Much better
Derry missed 3 clean goals, gifted one to Kerry, and are still keeping Kerry in it.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2024, 02:38:01 PMDerry missed 3 clean goals, gifted one to Kerry, and are still keeping Kerry in it.
Should be out of sight
Excellent result and deserved victory.
Great result for Derry, hopefully an all Ulster final!
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2024, 03:05:30 PMGreat result for Derry, hopefully an all Ulster final!
And the same result!!
Brilliant result for the minors. Really turned it around in the 2nd half and should probably have won more comfortably in the end.
Sergeant is some operator. Looks and plays like a young Tohill. Hitting frees from 50 odd metres out too.
Kerry are a good side, their keeper in particular is class.
Deserved win for Derry. The tough games against Dublin, Armagh helped them today. Kerry non competitive games v Cork, Roscommon didn't really help them.
Honnn Derry
Ref wasn't doing us many favours but couple calls at the end went our way
Great stuff. Beat Dublin and Kerry no mean feat. Hope to finish the job. Sargent some operator
All Ireland minor final in :
Breffni , if Mayo?
or in Omagh , if Armagh?
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 22, 2024, 03:39:31 PMAll Ireland minor final in :
Breffni , if Mayo?
or in Omagh , if Armagh?
Markievicz
Quote from: screenexile on June 22, 2024, 03:12:39 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2024, 03:05:30 PMGreat result for Derry, hopefully an all Ulster final!
And the same result!!
Only seen bits of the Ulster final but that Derry look a good side. Be great for us to reach a final and once you're there anything can happen
Was the throw ball the ref blew against Kerry in the 2nd half the right call? Would need to see it again but from the quick glance at the replay I got it looked harsh.
Quote from: Ghost on June 22, 2024, 04:26:55 PMWas the throw ball the ref blew against Kerry in the 2nd half the right call? Would need to see it again but from the quick glance at the replay I got it looked harsh.
It looked the wrong call to me. He was running around very keen to blow technical fouls. Good game, ebbed and flowed.
Young Cathair McBride had a fantastic game. A few on here a bit harsh on the midfield.
Kerry went man to man and was a great game and showed what Derry could do. Against Amragh in Ulster Final they dropped 86 men behind the ball and was a totally different game.
Quote from: theticklemister on June 22, 2024, 05:00:23 PMYoung Cathair McBride had a fantastic game. A few on here a bit harsh on the midfield.
Kerry went man to man and was a great game and showed what Derry could do. Against Amragh in Ulster Final they dropped 86 men behind the ball and was a totally different game.
86 men,no wonder you beat Armagh! Hopefully, we'll get an opportunity to replay this pairing.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 22, 2024, 03:41:28 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 22, 2024, 03:39:31 PMAll Ireland minor final in :
Breffni , if Mayo?
or in Omagh , if Armagh?
Markievicz
Is that confirmed or just you guessing?
Not an ideal start...
Settled a bit now, crossbar rattled too. 5 each
Is that Cassidy from Derry reffing?
Quote from: bennydorano on June 23, 2024, 05:52:00 PMSettled a bit now, crossbar rattled too. 5 each
Is that Cassidy from Derry reffing?
I don't think so.
Quote from: bennydorano on June 23, 2024, 05:52:00 PMSettled a bit now, crossbar rattled too. 5 each
Is that Cassidy from Derry reffing?
After a slow start, Armagh doing the business so far.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2024, 06:30:55 PMQuote from: bennydorano on June 23, 2024, 05:52:00 PMSettled a bit now, crossbar rattled too. 5 each
Is that Cassidy from Derry reffing?
After a slow start, Armagh doing the business so far.
Armagh well organised in defence and picking off important scores with turn overs
Looks like a third game of the championship between Derry and Armagh in the final.
That's a good Armagh team. They're miles better here.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2024, 02:44:19 PMQuote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2024, 02:33:38 PMHard luck Armagh. Don't see Derry winning any All Ireland tbh, very easily nullified today by a team they beat by 17 pts a few weeks ago. Then again it's hard to know how the provinces measure up and if they'll give Derry the free reign to do what they like.
From what I've seen and similar to U20 this year Ulster appears to be the strongest province of the four.
As I said number of weeks ago Ulster the stand out province and that's how it's turned out.
Full Time Mayo 1-6 Armagh 0-16
A brilliant second half from performance from Armagh. Delighted for them.
There is a few familiar surname/club combinations on that team
Quote from: GTP on June 23, 2024, 06:36:21 PMLooks like a third game of the championship between Derry and Armagh in the final.
First game Derry won by 17, second game Derry won by 2, using interpolation I suggest that Armagh will win by 13. However, I'd be quite happy with 1.
Congratulations to Armagh, a great performance and kudos to AOR, wasn't too many expecting a run like this. I'm beginning to think he might have been roping a bit in that group game v Derry. Derry will be big favourites for the final but if you're not in you can't win.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2024, 06:54:09 PMQuote from: GTP on June 23, 2024, 06:36:21 PMLooks like a third game of the championship between Derry and Armagh in the final.
First game Derry won by 17, second game Derry won by 2, using interpolation I suggest that Armagh will win by 13. However, I'd be quite happy with 1.
Or maybe we will just split the difference and beat you by 9 or 10 ;)
Impressive performance from Armagh today all the same. Should be a good final
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2024, 06:54:09 PMQuote from: GTP on June 23, 2024, 06:36:21 PMLooks like a third game of the championship between Derry and Armagh in the final.
First game Derry won by 17, second game Derry won by 2, using interpolation I suggest that Armagh will win by 13. However, I'd be quite happy with 1.
At minor level in 2022.
In the group stages Mayo beat Galway by 14 points and in the Connacht Final by 6 points.
Then in the All Ireland final Galway beat Mayo by 6 points. History to repeat itself with Armagh?
Brilliant stuff for Armagh.
Great to see a bit of a run from an underage team, been a while from wemve been in an all ireland final at any level so well done to the lads. That's a good Derry side. If I remember rightly we'd a silly black card the last day against them and they got in front and we couldnt get them back. We've every chance in the final
Should be a good final.
I'd be wary of calling either team a favorite, minors can be very unpredictable. Anything can happen.
Didn't see the Armagh v mayo game but I thought Derry were very strong yesterday and always felt like they could get a score when they needed it.
Where will the final be? Omagh probably the obvious choice.
The date, time, and venue for the 2024 Electric Ireland All-Ireland Minor Football Final has been finalised.
Reigning champions Derry will play Armagh in O'Neill's Healy Park, Omagh on Sunday, July 7 at 2pm.
Quote from: GTP on June 24, 2024, 02:30:36 PMThe date, time, and venue for the 2024 Electric Ireland All-Ireland Minor Football Final has been finalised.
Reigning champions Derry will play Armagh in O'Neill's Healy Park, Omagh on Sunday, July 7 at 2pm.
Derry could end up beating Armagh twice and losing the all Ireland to them.Would expect Derry to have a bit too much for Armagh though given form book.
Quote from: statto on June 24, 2024, 06:13:18 PMQuote from: GTP on June 24, 2024, 02:30:36 PMThe date, time, and venue for the 2024 Electric Ireland All-Ireland Minor Football Final has been finalised.
Reigning champions Derry will play Armagh in O'Neill's Healy Park, Omagh on Sunday, July 7 at 2pm.
Derry could end up beating Armagh twice and losing the all Ireland to them.Would expect Derry to have a bit too much for Armagh though given form book.
Not that unusual these days. In 2022 Mayo beat Galway well twice. Once by 14 points in the group stages and then by 6 points in the Connacht final. Galway then beat Mayo by 6 points in the All-Ireland final.
Derry are way stronger team than Armagh. Problem is they seem to play poor or average in the first half, then full tilt in the second. Played full tilt in last yrs final. If they repeat that, u can't see them stopped, but minors can be hard to judge at times.
Is GAAGO showing this?
Hopefully tg4 Harp
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Who'd have thought ye wouldn't be able to make out the action in a match in July because of rain on the camera lens...
That was a dirty slap lucky he didn't go for that
GAA has done great job in totally demeaning the All Ireland minor final so they can have a circus at the senior final. The amount of empty seats in the stand and seems to be no-one in any other part of the ground. Is little word of the game anyway. Omagh an awful venue at the best of times..
Quote from: Brendan on July 07, 2024, 02:09:41 PMWho'd have thought ye wouldn't be able to make out the action in a match in July because of rain on the camera lens...
It's an island of no seasons and that pitch in Omagh is one of the worst with any amount of rain.
Poor enough game the conditions diverging that both defences are on top.
Derry would want to be taking advantage of the wind it looks fairly strong.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 07, 2024, 02:17:08 PMGAA has done great job in totally demeaning the All Ireland minor final so they can have a circus at the senior final. The amount of empty seats in the stand and seems to be no-one in any other part of the ground. Is little word of the game anyway. Omagh an awful venue at the best of times..
Unless my eye sight is going the covered stand looks mainly full.
There's been more turnovers than completed passes
If that's a penalty he's set an incredibly low bar
Derry appear to be getting their frees a lot handier than Armagh.
Soft enough penalty for Derry which they score from.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 07, 2024, 02:21:40 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 07, 2024, 02:17:08 PMGAA has done great job in totally demeaning the All Ireland minor final so they can have a circus at the senior final. The amount of empty seats in the stand and seems to be no-one in any other part of the ground. Is little word of the game anyway. Omagh an awful venue at the best of times..
Unless my eye sight is going the covered stand looks mainly full.
Ok... maybe lot people wearing red tops, looked like empty seats to me!
Rest of the ground empty... I'm fairly sure of that!
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on July 07, 2024, 02:24:33 PMDerry appear to be getting their frees a lot handier than Armagh.
I was thinking the exact opposite.
Sergeant best player on the field by a mile.
Conditions having an impact too with a lot of dropped balls.
Half time Derry 1-3 Armagh 0-6. Credit to both sides for the decent match in truly awful playing conditions.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 07, 2024, 02:29:45 PMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on July 07, 2024, 02:24:33 PMDerry appear to be getting their frees a lot handier than Armagh.
I was thinking the exact opposite.
Sergeant best player on the field by a mile.
Conditions having an impact too with a lot of dropped balls.
After the penalty, you might be right. Armagh will be happy enough to go in level playing against the wind.
Armagh was the better team in that half yet find themselves level. That could come back to bite.
Decent game so far, won't be a lot between them in the end.
Armagh much better team, messed up 2 goal chances and Derry got a handy enough penalty, in level at the break and look to have the wind for the second half.
Disgraceful that this isn't in Croker next weekend. Omagh isn't the best of a field to put it mildly.
Can't understand why Armagh were so negative in the Ulster Final. Much more balanced today, and what do you know, they're well in it.
Thought while Armagh had much more of the ball they weren't great with it and coughed it up a lot. Derry have been poor in the same regard but Armagh have played slightly better.
Thought a few of the overcarrying calls were a joke and that the Armagh lad should have got the line for punching the keeper in the ribs and making no attempt at the ball. The penalty was 100%.
Big half for both teams will Armagh keep the ball like the first half or let it in with the breeze? You'd imagine both teams will mind the ball better this half.
Quote from: Sportacus on July 07, 2024, 02:37:25 PMCan't understand why Armagh were so negative in the Ulster Final. Much more balanced today, and what do you know, they're well in it.
The big beating they received off Derry in the group stages would have played a part in that. Competitive Ulster final performance and wins against Longford,Mayo has them in a very different mindset today but have missed some big opportunities in that 1st half.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on July 07, 2024, 02:24:33 PMDerry appear to be getting their frees a lot handier than Armagh.
I was thinking the exact opposite!
Ref 100% favouring Derry. Armagh should probably have more on the scoreboard having had so much of the ball for much of the first half.
Quote from: general_lee on July 07, 2024, 02:56:30 PMRef 100% favouring Derry. Armagh should probably have more on the scoreboard having had so much of the ball for much of the first half.
Armagh are constantly getting away with dragging the derry player back.
Derry's forward play is poor and Armagh are more direct when they have the ball.
Sides are level with 15 minutes and whatever added time to play.
Derry finally showing a bit of bite to get through tackles!
Great goal!!
Bad work from keeper and full back there!
Derry four in front with their 2nd goal. 8 minutes to play.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 07, 2024, 03:08:59 PMBad work from keeper and full back there!
Both caught napping. Not leading at half time has come back to bite.
Class goal.
Armagh getting all the calls since it.
Ridiculous throw ball call and now a free out that wasn't given and instead gives a free in for ?
That wasn't overcarrying he only took 3 steps!
This Ref has been really sore on Derry with the over carrying calls...
Ref keeping Armagh in it
Horrendous by the Ref...
Trying his best to keep Armagh in it..
What a bit of defending that was!
FT Derry 2-7 Armagh 0-10. Congrats to Derry the first team to retain this All Ireland since it became U17 grade.
Not that teams finest performance but job done. They deserved that over the course of the year. But feck that ref was shocking today.
Well done Derry, hard luck Armagh.
Quote from: screenexile on July 07, 2024, 03:12:45 PMThat wasn't overcarrying he only took 3 steps!
He kept blowing Derry for it and ignored a number of Armagh over carrys. Great to win especially when the ref is favouring the other side so much.
Armagh played reasonably well the first 2/3 of the game but Sargent took over from the 40th minute and pushed Derry on with the goal coming at a great time.
2 in a row is some achievement well done to all!!!
Brilliant last 20 from Derry.
Much the better side in the end and the ref kept Armagh in it. Probably should have been 6 or 7 in it at the end only for him.
Sargent is some footballer.
Congrats to Derry, 2 in a row is some achievement.
Armagh will be sick tho, 3 butchered goal chances & a soft penalty. Derry got on top for about 10 minutes and the damage was done.
Nine scores to ten. The goals proved the difference in the end and all the more frustrating for Armagh that the first goal was a debatable penalty.
Both have good players coming through and will be interesting to see how many go on to be established senior footballers in the years ahead.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 07, 2024, 03:23:53 PMBrilliant last 20 from Derry.
Much the better side in the end and the ref kept Armagh in it. Probably should have been 6 or 7 in it at the end only for him.
Sargent is some footballer.
He hopefully has a big future ahead of him. Great talent.
Great captain's speech lol. Some baller.
Close game.
Armagh better for 40 mins but messed up some goal chances.
At times looked like Armagh had more players on the field.
Then Sargeant made some big plays and Derry got on top and they messed up some chances to close the game out themselves.
Ref was OK overall. Maybe did give Armagh the benefit of doubt at times but sometimes that happens for the harder working team.
Will be very interesting to see these teams meet at under20.
Well done to Derry on winning 2 in a row and having to beat the same opponents again. Neither of those is easy.
Minor should go back to 18.
Final should go back to Croke Park.
Final should be on before senior Final.
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 07, 2024, 03:22:04 PMNot that teams finest performance but job done. They deserved that over the course of the year. But feck that ref was shocking today.
Thought he was poor the other way tbh!
Well done to Derry thats a serious team and Sargent was unreal. Hard luck to our lads, something to be proud of for the first time in years.
Derry played 10 mins in the first half and about 10mins in the 2nd, poor overall but its getting the win which is important. Ref give some baffling decisions at times. Trying to get a goal at the end instead of the insurance point summed up their performance. Derry now has 4 exceptional strong teams in 5 yrs, so we doing sthing right.
All Ireland football champions 2024:
Club: Senior - Glen (Derry) Intermediate - Cullyhanna (Armagh) Junior - Arva (Cavan)...
Colleges: Hogan Cup - Omagh CBS (Tyrone) Sigerson Cup - UUJ.
County: U20 - Tyrone
U17 - Derry.
Armagh or Donegal to complete the set!
Well done Derry, some team. Armagh didn't take their chances, I think the ref was trying to atone for the soft penalty decision in the first half.
Quote from: The Trap on July 07, 2024, 03:43:19 PMAt times looked like Armagh had more players on the field.
You can't count the ref.
Fair play to Jarlath Burns also, actually done some research on young Sergeant, compared to Larry McCarthy who would get your name wrong
Was sitting behind the Derry dugout. One of the Derry selectors started shouting about steps from the first minute when an Armagh player took a second step with the ball. Was at it the whole way through the match until Paul Faloon told him to be quiet or sit down. He kept going. Fourth official came over and told him the same. He kept going. Brutal stuff altogether. Come home to see the Derry lads at it on here as well. There were a couple of instances that he got the calls wrong for both teams but Jaysus lads.
Armagh the better team for long periods but the lad Sergant was the difference. A class player.
Yeah very true there Brendan and Mackers.
Fair play to Jarlath today in fairness.
Sergant was a man against boys
Quote from: lenny on July 07, 2024, 03:22:24 PMQuote from: screenexile on July 07, 2024, 03:12:45 PMThat wasn't overcarrying he only took 3 steps!
He kept blowing Derry for it and ignored a number of Armagh over carrys. Great to win especially when the ref is favouring the other side so much.
Catch a grip lads about the referee. It's embarrassing. Have a look at the steps Sargent took for his point in the second half. Great to win back to back but very rose tinted on here.armagh coughed up some amount of ball. They will have regrets.
From the Derry goal, the ref give Derry little, watching the game bck here, and Ger Dillon pulled to the ground by the collar for a blatant free 25m out and the ref played on.
Clones, while great for nostalgia, is objectively an awful venue. Facilities are dreadful, stuck somewhere in the 70s/80s.
Would need serious, serious money to get it even close to being what a modern stadium should be.
Add in the terrible travel infrastructure issues and it's clear why something else is needed to be the figurehead venue for Ulster GAA.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2024, 12:23:07 AMFrom the Derry goal, the ref give Derry little, watching the game bck here, and Ger Dillon pulled to the ground by the collar for a blatant free 25m out and the ref played on.
One man's blatent free is another man's fair tackle.
Not a big fan of commenting on refs but there was a too long in that game and I have never seen a free being given for a boy holding the ball for that short a period of time...
I think the best team won but Armagh can hold their heads up high because that is a very good team and we'll see a lot more of quite a few of them in years to come. There wasn't huge amounts in it but Derry were I think that bit better.
Sargeant a big factor. Armagh were very well drilled and he was able to break their tackles in crunch moments when there were others who maybe struggled more to do that.
Quote from: Orior on July 08, 2024, 11:36:11 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2024, 12:23:07 AMFrom the Derry goal, the ref give Derry little, watching the game bck here, and Ger Dillon pulled to the ground by the collar for a blatant free 25m out and the ref played on.
One man's blatent free is another man's fair tackle.
Not on that one. He was dragged round the neck but the ref missed it. It would have been a crucial free in which would have given Derry a more comfortable finish to the game.
Just looking back though the programme from yesterday's final and there is a page detailing the top scorers from each final since 2000. Obvious names stand out: Conor Mortimer, Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Tommy Conroy, David Clifford.
But there is also a good few that maybe didn't play much football at senior level. Or have a major impact.
So a couple of questions: Did Eugene McVerry or Robbie Tasker (2009)play much senior football for Armagh?
Have the likes of Matthew Cooley (2018), Tomo Culhane (2019) or Éanna Monaghan (2022) made any real headroads into the Galway senior team?
Would Kerry people have expected to get more out of Killian Spillane (2014), Conor Heaney (2015) and David Shaw (2016)?
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2024, 10:11:29 PMJust looking back though the programme from yesterday's final and there is a page detailing the top scorers from each final since 2000. Obvious names stand out: Conor Mortimer, Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Tommy Conroy, David Clifford.
But there is also a good few that maybe didn't play much football at senior level. Or have a major impact.
So a couple of questions: Did Eugene McVerry or Robbie Tasker (2009)play much senior football for Armagh?
Have the likes of Matthew Cooley (2018), Tomo Culhane (2019) or Éanna Monaghan (2022) made any real headroads into the Galway senior team?
Would Kerry people have expected to get more out of Killian Spillane (2014), Conor Heaney (2015) and David Shaw (2016)?
Top scorer with 1-6 in the 2020 All Ireland U20 final v Dublin. He scored Galway's 17th and final score in their senior Quarter final win against Dublin.
McVerry did play a lot of Senior football for Armagh, a decent career in an unspectacular team. Tasker probably more talented but not committed, think he had runs ins with the law?? Don't think he played senior or if he did it wasn't very memorable or long.
Tasker had a few bits of trouble off the field which was a shame. Eugene did play a bit for Armagh and was a decent player, back with the club this year I think.
Is one of them boys not in jail?
Hard to believe when you think back to good minor teams that a dublin team with a significant number of the great senior team there got beat by Tipperary in the minor final.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2024, 07:36:41 AMIs one of them boys not in jail?
Hard to believe when you think back to good minor teams that a dublin team with a significant number of the great senior team there got beat by Tipperary in the minor final.
That was some Tipp team, most of them won Munster in 2020 and got to the all ireland semi in 2018.
2024 Electric Ireland Football Minor Star Team of the Year
1. Kacper Robak (Kerry and Dr. Crokes)
2. Tom Hession (Mayo and Eastern Gaels)
3. Ronan Canavan (Derry and Brian Ógs Steelstown)
4. Conall Wilson (Armagh and St Peter's)
5. Luke Grant (Derry and Greenlough)
6. Ben Murphy (Kerry and Austin Stacks)
7. Diarmaid O'Rourke (Armagh and St Patricks Dromintee)
8. James Sargent (Derry and Lavey)
9. Dáithí O'Callaghan (Armagh and Carrickcruppen St Patricks GAA)
10. Eamon Young (Derry and Newbridge)
11. Kobe McDonald (Mayo and Crossmolina Deel Rovers)
12. Gearóid White (Kerry and John Mitchels)
13. Eoin Duffy (Armagh and Culloville Blues GAC)
14. Oisín Deane (Mayo and Crossmolina Deel Rovers)
15. Dylan Rocks (Derry and Loup)
James Sargent named player of the year.
Player of the year would have been a very straightforward decision , he was outstanding all season
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2024, 10:11:29 PMJust looking back though the programme from yesterday's final and there is a page detailing the top scorers from each final since 2000. Obvious names stand out: Conor Mortimer, Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Tommy Conroy, David Clifford.
But there is also a good few that maybe didn't play much football at senior level. Or have a major impact.
So a couple of questions: Did Eugene McVerry or Robbie Tasker (2009)play much senior football for Armagh?
Have the likes of Matthew Cooley (2018), Tomo Culhane (2019) or Éanna Monaghan (2022) made any real headroads into the Galway senior team?
Would Kerry people have expected to get more out of Killian Spillane (2014), Conor Heaney (2015) and David Shaw (2016)?
Could you list the top scorers?
Top scorers were the free takers, not necessarily exceptional players.
2000 Conor Mortimer Mayo 0-6 v Cork
2001 Leo Meenan Tyrone 1-4 v Dublin
2002 Brian Farrell Meath 0-7 v Derry
2003 Kevin Leahy Dublin 0-6 v Lapis
2004 Paul O'Connor Kerry 0-6 v Tyrone
2005 Paul McCumiskey Down 1-3 v Mayo
2006 Paddy Curran Kerry 0-8 v Roscommon
2007 Michael Martyn Galway 0-6 v Derry
2008 Paddy McNeice Tyrone 0-6 v Mayo
2008 Aidan Walsh Mayo 0-6 v Mayo
2008 Conor O'Neill Tyrone 1-3 v Mayo
2009 Eugene McVerry Armagh 0-3 v Mayo
2009 Robbie Tasker Armagh 0-3 v Mayo
2010 Dan McEoin Cork 0-5 v Tyrone
2011 Ciaran Kilkenny Dublin 0-7 v Tipp
2012 Cormac Costello Dublin 0-5 v Meath
2012 Fiachra Ward Meath 1-2 v Dublin
2013 Tommy Conroy Mayo 1-3 v Tyrone
2014 Killian Spillane Kerry 0-5 v Donegal
2015 Conor Geaney Kerry 2-4 v Tipp
2016 David Shaw Kerry 1-1 v Galway
2017 David Clifford Kerry 4-4 v Derry
2018 Matthew Cooley Galway 0-5 v Kerry
2019 Tomo Culhane Galway 0-10 v Cork AET
2019 Conor Corbett Cork 1-7 v Galway AET
2020 Matthew Downey Derry 1-3 v Kerry
2021 Oisin O Murchu Meath 1-2 v Tyrone
2022 Éanna Monaghan Galway 0-5 v Mayo
2023 Ger Dillon Derry 0-6 v Monaghan
2024 James Sargent Derry 1-1 v Armagh
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 08, 2024, 10:53:43 PMTasker had a few bits of trouble off the field which was a shame. Eugene did play a bit for Armagh and was a decent player, back with the club this year I think.
Tasker was a wonderful talent but a bad apple mind he kicked about ten points against cross in championship game in 2010/2011, McVerry made his name at 14 on that minor team as a scoring forward, but seemed to be a more workman like wing forward when played with Armagh, think he went away travelling a bit as well.
Jeebus a quick Google of Tasker isn't pretty reading, fond of a car hijacking it would appear
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 22, 2024, 10:20:46 AMJeebus a quick Google of Tasker isn't pretty reading, fond of a car hijacking it would appear
If he had stuck at the football he could have a Celtic cross by now.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 22, 2024, 10:46:28 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 22, 2024, 10:20:46 AMJeebus a quick Google of Tasker isn't pretty reading, fond of a car hijacking it would appear
If he had stuck at the football he could have a Celtic cross by now.
Talent wise he'd be as good as anyone on that team at the minute but he hadn't the commitment of a lad like Grugan etc. A real pity.
Quote from: Estimator on July 08, 2024, 10:11:29 PMJust looking back though the programme from yesterday's final and there is a page detailing the top scorers from each final since 2000. Obvious names stand out: Conor Mortimer, Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Tommy Conroy, David Clifford.
But there is also a good few that maybe didn't play much football at senior level. Or have a major impact.
So a couple of questions: Did Eugene McVerry or Robbie Tasker (2009)play much senior football for Armagh?
Have the likes of Matthew Cooley (2018), Tomo Culhane (2019) or Éanna Monaghan (2022) made any real headroads into the Galway senior team?
Would Kerry people have expected to get more out of Killian Spillane (2014), Conor Heaney (2015) and David Shaw (2016)?
Kerry POV - Killian Spillane has never kicked on to where I thought he would. Has got into a rut as impact sub but he's one of many players that I wish had been given a good run of successive games in league to try to build confidence and cohesion with team. He has the talent.
David Shaw is a middle of the road player at this stage. His size and the fact he played with Clifford a lot at minor helped him.
Conor Geaney is a very talented forward, good finisher. Playing well for Dingle at the moment. He came off the bench for Kerry early in league this year and I thought he might be in the shake up but seemed to lose out in squad selections in championship. I don't think he'll ever be a huge player at Senior level but he has squad level ability.
One of the biggest issues for Kerry has been a massive lack of blooding players from 2018 Minor team (1 on panel currently, Dylan Geaney) and 2017 team apart from David Clifford and Diarmuid O'Connor. These are 24/25 year olds now. Should have more who have got a run. Jack has been very poor at rotating panel and giving out game time.
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 21, 2024, 06:40:10 PMQuote from: Estimator on July 08, 2024, 10:11:29 PMJust looking back though the programme from yesterday's final and there is a page detailing the top scorers from each final since 2000. Obvious names stand out: Conor Mortimer, Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Tommy Conroy, David Clifford.
But there is also a good few that maybe didn't play much football at senior level. Or have a major impact.
So a couple of questions: Did Eugene McVerry or Robbie Tasker (2009)play much senior football for Armagh?
Have the likes of Matthew Cooley (2018), Tomo Culhane (2019) or Éanna Monaghan (2022) made any real headroads into the Galway senior team?
Would Kerry people have expected to get more out of Killian Spillane (2014), Conor Heaney (2015) and David Shaw (2016)?
Could you list the top scorers?
The Tommy Conroy quoted above isnt the well known Tommy Conroy. Tommy above is a kiltane forward, great for a goal but never threatened to play senior intercounty.
Quote from: Estimator on August 21, 2024, 07:54:24 PM2000 Conor Mortimer Mayo 0-6 v Cork
2001 Leo Meenan Tyrone 1-4 v Dublin
2002 Brian Farrell Meath 0-7 v Derry
2003 Kevin Leahy Dublin 0-6 v Lapis
2004 Paul O'Connor Kerry 0-6 v Tyrone
2005 Paul McCumiskey Down 1-3 v Mayo
2006 Paddy Curran Kerry 0-8 v Roscommon
2007 Michael Martyn Galway 0-6 v Derry
2008 Paddy McNeice Tyrone 0-6 v Mayo
2008 Aidan Walsh Mayo 0-6 v Mayo
2008 Conor O'Neill Tyrone 1-3 v Mayo
2009 Eugene McVerry Armagh 0-3 v Mayo
2009 Robbie Tasker Armagh 0-3 v Mayo
2010 Dan McEoin Cork 0-5 v Tyrone
2011 Ciaran Kilkenny Dublin 0-7 v Tipp
2012 Cormac Costello Dublin 0-5 v Meath
2012 Fiachra Ward Meath 1-2 v Dublin
2013 Tommy Conroy Mayo 1-3 v Tyrone
2014 Killian Spillane Kerry 0-5 v Donegal
2015 Conor Geaney Kerry 2-4 v Tipp
2016 David Shaw Kerry 1-1 v Galway
2017 David Clifford Kerry 4-4 v Derry
2018 Matthew Cooley Galway 0-5 v Kerry
2019 Tomo Culhane Galway 0-10 v Cork AET
2019 Conor Corbett Cork 1-7 v Galway AET
2020 Matthew Downey Derry 1-3 v Kerry
2021 Oisin O Murchu Meath 1-2 v Tyrone
2022 Éanna Monaghan Galway 0-5 v Mayo
2023 Ger Dillon Derry 0-6 v Monaghan
2024 James Sargent Derry 1-1 v Armagh
Thanks for providing the list.
I had it in my head it was either Mulgrew or O'Connor in 2004, good to see the actual final top scorers.
Mulgrew was some operator at minor level. Did a bit at senior but not what you would have hoped. I vaguely remember a fantastic goal at senior level mind you.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 23, 2024, 08:47:03 PMMulgrew was some operator at minor level. Did a bit at senior but not what you would have hoped. I vaguely remember a fantastic goal at senior level mind you.
Aye, great team goal v Donegal in 2007.
Was expecting to see Coney or O'Neill as the name for 2008 and 2010.
Coney was fantastic too - just never broke through.
One that always stands out to me is that people say there was a better player than donnelan or Joyce on a fantastic Galway team yet he never made it. I think con cannon was his name.
Best minor performance I ever saw was a boy called gareth (maybe garrett) playing for Derry minors against Monaghan I think. Paddy Bradley playing same day. I've still never seen a display of fielding like it.
Sounds like Gareth O'Neill Greenlough, was a very good midfielder, not sure what happened him. Mark Diamond was the best underage midfield player not to play for Derry senior.
Large majority of lads at minor never break through to their senior club teams, never mind county.
Just the way it is.
If you look at minor teams from match programmes a way back, you can normally only pick out a few players that have 'made it' at senior level.
Quote from: marty34 on August 23, 2024, 11:06:30 PMLarge majority of lads at minor never break through to their senior club teams, never mind county.
Just the way it is.
If you look at minor teams from match programmes a way back, you can normally only pick out a few players that have 'made it' at senior level.
I think it depends on the size of the club, smaller clubs tend to have immediate opportunities for star minors, so they don't slip through the net.
Similar at county level, growing complaints in Kerry for example that they haven't really reaped that benefits of the 5 in a row, and that's because so many of them haven't had had an opportunity to play county football. Whereas there are plenty of examples of one successful underage team providing 5/6 of a successful senior intercounty team, that's especially the case with less successful counties, where young players are drafted in relatively quickly.
Kerry did alright in bringing through a good number of those minors to seniors. From their 2014,2015,2016 All Ireland minor winners 12 of those players featured in the senior semi final against Armagh this year.
They wasted no time playing the best of those minors at senior level as was seen with David Clifford,Sean O'Shea making their senior debuts as teens.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 23, 2024, 10:53:30 PMSounds like Gareth O'Neill Greenlough, was a very good midfielder, not sure what happened him.
Garret O'Neill. He played a good few years for Greenlough but was never that committed. Certainly not enough to play county football.
Quote from: OakLeaf on August 24, 2024, 07:30:47 AMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on August 23, 2024, 10:53:30 PMSounds like Gareth O'Neill Greenlough, was a very good midfielder, not sure what happened him.
Garret O'Neill. He played a good few years for Greenlough but was never that committed. Certainly not enough to play county football.
Gatsy could've fielded a ball alright
Greenlough have aleays had a few great players over the years, that building down at the corner didn't help things with commitment
It was O'Neill yeah. Diamond ended up playing for rossa in Antrim at one point iirc.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 23, 2024, 10:12:04 PMConey was fantastic too - just never broke through.
One that always stands out to me is that people say there was a better player than donnelan or Joyce on a fantastic Galway team yet he never made it. I think con cannon was his name.
Best minor performance I ever saw was a boy called gareth (maybe garrett) playing for Derry minors against Monaghan I think. Paddy Bradley playing same day. I've still never seen a display of fielding like it.
John Concannon. Give Sean Marty Lockhart hell in the '94 Hogan Final. He played full-forward. Maybe scored 1-5.
Joyce and Donnellan played in the half forward line that day, but Concannon was the star of the show.
Two provincial finals to be played. Cork v Kerry this Friday and Cavan v Tyrone on Sunday
All Ireland Quarter finals to be played June 7th/8th in neutral venues.
Offaly v Mayo
Roscommon v Louth
Munster winner v Ulster runner up
Ulster winner v Munster runner up
Tier 2 All Ireland championship
Prelim Quarter finals
Galway 2-16 Meath 2-17
Westmeath 0-8 Armagh 2-17
Derry 3-13 Tipperary 0-16
Leitrim 1-16 Down 0-19 AET Leitrim won on penalties.
Quarter finals May 24th
Kildare v Leitrim
Monaghan v Meath
Derry v Donegal
Armagh v Dublin
Tier 3 All Ireland championship
Prelim Quarter finals
Sligo 7-21 London 1-7
Waterford 2-18 Kilkenny 0-8
Wexford 1-10 Laois 2-14
Limerick 0-7 Wicklow 3-11
Fermanagh 0-11 Longford 1-10
Quarter finals
Longford 3-18 Carlow 2-19
Laois 3-20 Antrim 0-15
Wicklow 3-13 Waterford 1-3
Sligo 2-10 Clare 1-5
May 25th
Semi finals
Longford v Sligo
Wicklow v Laois
its a pity Armagh v Dublin couldn't wait a week, it could be acurtain raiser for the senior game in Croke park.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 20, 2025, 10:21:15 AMits a pity Armagh v Dublin couldn't wait a week, it could be acurtain raiser for the senior game in Croke park.
HQ doesn't want U17s playing in a Croke Park in front of big crowd hence why All Ireland semi final and finals at that grade are no longer played there.
Remember Conor Owens from Tyrone missing a free he'd score in his sleep with one of the lasts kicks in the u17 final v Meath which we went on to lose. It was played in Croke Park before the Tyrone v Kerry semi final in 2021 in front of 10000s of people. Always thought it was a serious burden for a 15 or 16 year old to take on and it's not surprising that they've been moved away from HQ.
I disagree - I think the worst thing about the current Minor format has been taking these games away from before big provincial and All Ireland ties where several thousand people be watching and instead play them in front of a few dozen family members.
Munster Final Kerry v Cork has just started on TG4
Half time Kerry 0-8 Cork 0-4, Both teams had 12 shots on goal in that half.
Kerry forwards eating the ball and not passing to players in better position.
Another Munster title for Kerry. Clean sweep at senior, u20 and minor.
Jaysis lads that's poor form there from the kerry no 15, absolute horrendous dive to get the Cork no6 a red. Is Aidan O'Mahony part of the coaching set up?
Cork got it back to 0-7 to 0-11 then undone with a few poor kick outs. 55 mins played Kerry 0-16 Cork 0-7. Don't think that should have been a red card for the Cork number 6.
Full time Kerry 0-18 Cork 0-9. Three in row Munster titles for Kerry and have beaten Cork in all of those finals
Quote from: omagh_gael on May 23, 2025, 08:47:55 PMJaysis lads that's poor form there from the kerry no 15, absolute horrendous dive to get the Cork no6 a red. Is Aidan O'Mahony part of the coaching set up?
Totally played the referee and linesman.
Quote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2025, 08:53:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on May 23, 2025, 08:47:55 PMJaysis lads that's poor form there from the kerry no 15, absolute horrendous dive to get the Cork no6 a red. Is Aidan O'Mahony part of the coaching set up?
Totally played the referee and linesman.
Looked like ref gave the red on the linesman's say-so and in the replay it looked like the linesman had no view of it. Terrible call - only consolation is that there is little chance it affected the result given Cork looked beaten from a long way out.
I wouldn't be shocked if both sides gotten beaten the next day out. Kerry let Cork have a world of chances but Cork were hugely wasteful with a laundry list of bad wides. Could definitely see a side with better forwards taking advantage of that Kerry defence.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 23, 2025, 09:00:29 PMQuote from: Gael85 on May 23, 2025, 08:53:12 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on May 23, 2025, 08:47:55 PMJaysis lads that's poor form there from the kerry no 15, absolute horrendous dive to get the Cork no6 a red. Is Aidan O'Mahony part of the coaching set up?
Totally played the referee and linesman.
Looked like ref gave the red on the linesman's say-so and in the replay it looked like the linesman had no view of it. Terrible call - only consolation is that there is little chance it affected the result given Cork looked beaten from a long way out.
I wouldn't be shocked if both sides gotten beaten the next day out. Kerry let Cork have a world of chances but Cork were hugely wasteful with a laundry list of bad wides. Could definitely see a side with better forwards taking advantage of that Kerry defence.
If the top two in Ulster are as strong as the last two years then that has a strong possibility of happening
All-Ireland Tier 2 quarter-finals results
Derry 0-8 Donegal 0-12
Armagh 5-12 Dublin 2-7
Monaghan 3-17 Meath 3-20
Kildare 3-16 Leitrim 2-10
All-Ireland MFC Tier 3 semi-finals
Wicklow 1-9 Laois 1-8
Longford 2-10 Sligo 0-15
Opening ten minutes in the Ulster final Tyrone 0-6 Cavan 0-2.
Goal for Cavan before the break. Half time Cavan 1-7 Tyrone 0-8.
Goal for Tyrone at the start of the 2nd half. 1-8 to 1-7.
FT Tyrone 2-11 Cavan 1-8.
Quarter final line in two weeks
Tyrone v Cork
Kerry v Cavan
Roscommon v Louth
Offaly v Mayo
Semi finals
Tyrone/Cork v Roscommon/Louth
Kerry/Cavan v Offaly/Mayo
Might go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 24, 2025, 03:20:30 PMAll-Ireland Tier 2 quarter-finals results
Armagh 5-12 Dublin 2-7
Monaghan 3-17 Meath 3-20
Kildare 3-16 Leitrim 2-10
Dublin not exactly performing according to their pick. Louth/Offaly/Kildare and Meath doing better. Armagh obviously have a few lads.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on May 25, 2025, 06:44:38 PMMight go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved
The Kerr lad will be a big miss for Tyrone and even more so for his club.
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 25, 2025, 06:58:20 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on May 25, 2025, 06:44:38 PMMight go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved
The Kerr lad will be a big miss for Tyrone and even more so for his club.
Yeah his club wouldn't exactly have the luxury of finding a replacement on the same level as him. Be a big miss so he will
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 25, 2025, 06:58:20 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on May 25, 2025, 06:44:38 PMMight go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved
The Kerr lad will be a big miss for Tyrone and even more so for his club.
Aussie rules calling?
Young Kerr heading over to England to play soccer. Apparently is very good.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 25, 2025, 07:41:06 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on May 25, 2025, 06:58:20 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on May 25, 2025, 06:44:38 PMMight go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved
The Kerr lad will be a big miss for Tyrone and even more so for his club.
Aussie rules calling?
Has signed a contract with West Ham. Very talented in that code too by all accounts.
Leinster's decline at underage level is incredible when you look at the minor championship statistics. Since 2012 when Meath and Dublin faced one another in both the Leinster and All-Ireland final only one Leinster team has appeared in a final since then. Meath winning the All-Ireland in 2021. Looking at that Tyrone team's performance it is hard to see either Louth or Offaly competing with them this year. While both Louth and Offaly play a lovely brand of football it is hard to see how they can live with the sheer athleticism, power and scoring ability of a side like Tyrone. Armagh's demolition of Dublin further highlighting the gulf in standards between the development of Northern teams to teams in Leinster currently. Last two Leinster champions, Longford 2024 and Dublin 2023 were torn asunder when they faced Northern opposition.
This Saturday
All-Ireland Tier 2 semi finals
Meath v Donegal- Athletic Grounds 2pm
Armagh v Kildare- Ashbourne 1:30pm
All-Ireland Tier 3 final
Wicklow v Longford - O'Connor Park 12:30pm. Link for that final on here.
Very impressive-looking Tyrone team, that. Serious work rate and was very noticeable how Cavan laboured to, or simply weren't allowed work the ball quickly enough up the field to attack after a rare turnover, compared to Tyrone being able to knife through and up to the business end in three or four rapid hand passes. If they don't win the All-Ireland it'll be some team to stop them. It took them a fair while to put away a game enough but ultimately limited Cavan team, who might be able to pick themselves up for the QF yet. Wouldn't want to face Tyrone again though, me shite is sickened losing every match of consequence to them at all levels and after they disembowel the seniors again in the Sam Maguire group, that'll be a good enough bellyfull of red hand for the year.
Venues and throw in time confirmed for the All Ireland Quarter finals today.
Saturday June 7th
Kerry v Cavan - O'Moore Park 1pm
Tyrone v Cork - O'Moore Park 3pm
Roscommon v Louth - Breffini Park 7pm
Sunday June 8th
Offaly v Mayo - Dr Hyde Park Park 2pm
Tier 3 All Ireland final result
Longford 2-13 Wicklow 1-8
Tier 2 All Ireland semi finals
Kildare 1-15 Armagh 1-13
Meath 6-11 Donegal 0-12
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2025, 03:01:34 PMTier 2 All Ireland semi finals
Kildare 1-15 Armagh 1-13
Meath 6-11 Donegal 0-12
Kildare and Meath obviously hugely better than Dublin at present, which offers hope for the senior Leinster championship in the future.
Leinster teams rose above the decline today @Laois Rising
Great coverage by TG4 again. All Four All Ireland Quarter finals to be showed live.
On Saturday
Kerry v Cavan 12pm
Tyrone v Cork 1:44pm
Roscommon v Louth 7pm
Sunday
Offaly v Mayo 3pm
Also on this weekend is the Tier 2 All Ireland final on Saturday at 4:15pm
Thanks a lot for putting that up, I'd probably never have copped it otherwise.
Non streamed/covered All-Ireland series and Tailteann Cup games need to be given to TG4.
TG4 is pound for pound the best GAA channel really isn't it? There is no logical reason for them not be allowed to show any game that is not being broadcast elsewhere. They will do it. Rainy day in Ballyshannon or anywhere else!
Half time Kerry 0-6 Cavan 0-5. Just three scores from play in that half, 2 from Kerry and Cavan 1.
Cavan will be the happier of the two at half time, outscored Kerry 0-5 to 0-1 in the last 15 minutes of the half and have the wind 2nd half although didn't seem to be a great advantage to Kerry 1st half.
From a Cavan point of view, very happy with scoreline after watching first 20 mins. Very disappointed with scoreline after witnessing last 5.
Cavan well in it after a slow enough start. Some good fielding on show. Defence is very loose though and when Kerry start working it in more against the breeze now, instead of shooting somewhat errantly as in the first half, the intricacy could unpick Cavan. All to play for anyway, hope we harness the elements and kick on now.
Cavan needed that goal after 42 minutes. Kerry 0-10 Cavan 1-5.
10 minutes to play Kerry lead 0-13 to 1-6
58 minutes played three in a row for Cavan. 0-13 to 1-9
Kerry working it in close at their ease, threading the needle as I feared. Amazed Cavan got to this stage with such a loose defence that routinely stands six feet off their men.
Goal was on there that could have been the winner. Kerry shitting the bed.
Kerry just with that little bit more class. Cavan boys had a few chances there that they should have done better with.
Kerry just about the better side. Cavan had their chances. Ref was simply not going to give Cavan a scoreable free there in the closing stages, no matter what. Definitely one nailed on one he ignored.
FT Kerry 0-14 Cavan 1-9. Main emotion for Kerry at full time was relief.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2025, 01:25:42 PMKerry just about the better side. Cavan had their chances. Ref was simply not going to give Cavan a scoreable free there in the closing stages, no matter what. Definitely one nailed on one he ignored.
Yes a tap over free for Cavan before added time somehow ignored by the officials. Cavan not scoring for the first 15 minutes of the 1st half and 12 minutes before they scored in the 2nd half proved costly.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2025, 01:25:42 PMKerry just about the better side. Cavan had their chances. Ref was simply not going to give Cavan a scoreable free there in the closing stages, no matter what. Definitely one nailed on one he ignored.
Kerry man was fouled as he was dipping the ball and he kept quiet as well in fairness to let Cavan turn it over on the 20m line.
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2025, 01:30:55 PMQuote from: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2025, 01:25:42 PMKerry just about the better side. Cavan had their chances. Ref was simply not going to give Cavan a scoreable free there in the closing stages, no matter what. Definitely one nailed on one he ignored.
Kerry man was fouled as he was dipping the ball and he kept quiet as well in fairness to let Cavan turn it over on the 20m line.
You might well be right, but I was contrasting it more with the series of kickable scores Kerry got from him round the start of the second half. Anyway, Cavan could have rescued it on their own steam but typical of the age group found it hard to keep the heads at times. At least they raised a gallop near the end I suppose but largely they were architects of their own downfall there.
Everyone playing for the right to lose to Tyrone in the final, is still my opinion. Whatever about the others, they'd be too good for that Kerry outfit there today I reckon.
Definitely. Cork in line for an absolute schooling here I reckon.
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2025, 01:38:59 PMDefinitely. Cork in line for an absolute schooling here I reckon.
It could be absolutely car crash stuff - I'll be very surprised if Tyrone don't utterly destroy them.
Kerry the better team but we left it behind us.
Flying start for Tyrone. 1-3 to no score after 4 minutes. 1-9 to 0-5 after 20 minutes.
Goal for Cork, fine catch and finish. 1-9 to 1-6 after 25 minutes.
Half time Tyrone 1-13 Cork 1-7
45 minutes played. Tyrone 1-15 Cork 1-11
FT Tyrone 1-21 Cork 1-12. Cork fell away in the final quarter and their slow start to the game didn't help their cause either. Competitive in between
Are the rules the same for minor, u20 and senior?
Cork seemed to be happy with putting up a decent showing.
If we win v Louth I think we play Tyrone?
Kildare look useful in the Tier 2 final against Meath. They beat Cavan in the final last year.
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 07, 2025, 04:36:17 PMKildare look useful in the Tier 2 final against Meath. They beat Cavan in the final last year.
Done well so far to hold a Meath team that scored 3-20 v Monaghan and 6-11 v Donegal in their two previous games. Goal before the break gives Kildare a decent lead.
Half time Kildare 2-7 Meath 0-3
Good fight back by Meath as Kildare hold on for the win. Result Kildare 2-12 Meath 1-12
Quote from: Rossfan on June 07, 2025, 03:49:31 PMCork seemed to be happy with putting up a decent showing.
If we win v Louth I think we play Tyrone?
That's correct. Tyrone v the winners of Louth/Rossies.
Half time Louth 0-8 Roscommon 0-6. Full time Louth 0-14 Roscommon 0-14 extra time to find a winner.
Half time in extra time Roscommon 1-16 Louth 1-14. Full time Roscommon 1-19 Louth 2-15
The most dramatic of all U17 games played today was left to the last one. Wasteful Roscommon could be left with a lot of regrets had they lost but still managed to find a way to win in extra time. Hard luck to Louth Leinster final and today two narrow losses for them but plenty of talented footballers coming through and thats the main thing at this grade.
I'm a biteen biased maybe....but that was the most exciting game I've seen in years.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 07, 2025, 11:05:47 PMI'm a biteen biased maybe....but that was the most exciting game I've seen in years.
Well done the Roscommon. I'd say semi against ourselves will be back at Breffni.
Good start to Offaly v Mayo. Attacking football.
Half time looking good for Mayo as they lead 3-7 to 1-4
Mayo have left a few scores behind them and I am not sure a 9 point lead is sufficient against that breeze
Quote from: maigheo on June 08, 2025, 03:44:43 PMMayo have left a few scores behind them and I am not sure a 9 point lead is sufficient against that breeze
Yerra
6 point lead for Mayo with 20 minutes to play. 3-8 to 2-5
Another Offaly goal lead cut to three points. Moments before it Mayo had a good goal chance saved.
Offaly level it up with a 4th goal and then go in front 8 minutes left.
Mayo back in front with a two pointer.
Mayo edge it full time Mayo 3-13 Offaly 4-7
Another good game credit to both teams.
Semi-final line up in two weeks.
Roscommon v Tyrone
Kerry v Mayo.
Venues confirmed for the All-Ireland semi finals, Ulster and Munster champions and the two favourites will play in their own provinces.
Both this Sunday covered by TG4
Kerry v Mayo - Ennis at 3:30pm
Tyrone v Roscommon - Breffni Park 1:30pm
Back to normal Irish Summer weather for these 2 big games.
Best wishes to all the Ros players, manager and back room.
A tall order but hopefully we can do it against the Ulster giants.
The Roscommon lads holding their own here
Half time Tyrone 2-6 Roscommon 1-5. Strong finish to the half by Tyrone as it was 1-5 to 0-5 to the rossies 26 minutes played.
Thats my biggest pet peeve. Why are you forcing a goal there when you could drive the nail into the coffin and take a simple point?
The ref just black carded the wrong player? what are the umpires and linesmen doing?
7 mins left Tyrone lead by 5..
FT Tyrone 2-12 Roscommon 1-8. Tyrone never looked back when they scored 2-1 without reply in the final 4 minutes of the 1st half.
Good win for our lads. Defense stood up again. Not sure about our forwards though they don't seem to pass as much or as quick as they should. But anyways no point in focusing on the negatives when our underage team is in another all ireland final
Half time Kerry 1-7 Mayo 2-5
Kerr will be an awful loss. Incredible speed.
Tyrone v Kerry final... as we like it :D
Kerry 1-19 Mayo 3-10. Kerry two pointer free the last score of a very competitive game.
Tyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 22, 2025, 04:57:03 PMTyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
Tyrone will need to play better than today, first half in particular wasn't great. The goal at the end of the half was key, took the wind right out of Roscommon's sails. Second half was comfortable enough.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 22, 2025, 04:57:03 PMTyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
Conor Hession, Dara Flanagan and both midfielders are stand out players and will be suprise if they don't go on to impress further at U20 level.
Having seen both in action this year a few times, the competitive game with Kerry edging it went along the expected lines.
First game Roscommon was holding their own but the poor finish to the 1st half was the losing of the game. Tyrone 4 ahead a seen it out with yet another strong defensive team effort and do the same against Kerry they won't be beaten.
Tyrone will always be challenging for minor and U20 All-Irelands.
A good GAA culture in the county.
Brave effort by our ladeens but better team won unfortunately.
Tgec2 goals were killer blows but wecwere poor up front in the 2nd half.
3 points in the last 35 minutes🫤
Still we battled to the last whistle and hopefully a good number if the lads will make the steps up to U20 and Senior.
3 minutes added time in the second half.
Must have been 10 minutes of stoppages!
Hooter use needs to be extended!!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 22, 2025, 09:15:04 PMBrave effort by our ladeens but better team won unfortunately.
Tgec2 goals were killer blows but wecwere poor up front in the 2nd half.
3 points in the last 35 minutes🫤
Still we battled to the last whistle and hopefully a good number if the lads will make the steps up to U20 and Senior.
3 minutes added time in the second half.
Must have been 10 minutes of stoppages!
Hooter use needs to be extended!!
Thought yous were the better team 20-25 mins and as you say 2 Tyrone goals were huge.
When's the final
Final is July 5th.
Kerry a tad lucky in the end to come through today in Ennis. With a few mins to go it looked like we were in trouble but Gearoid White and a few others pulled it out of the fire in fairness.
Tyrone will be favourites for the final. I think Kerry will need to get 2/3 goals to win it.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 22, 2025, 11:06:03 PMFinal is July 5th.
Kerry a tad lucky in the end to come through today in Ennis. With a few mins to go it looked like we were in trouble but Gearoid White and a few others pulled it out of the fire in fairness.
Tyrone will be favourites for the final. I think Kerry will need to get 2/3 goals to win it.
For real? Same day as Cork v Dublin All Ireland semi-final. GAA needs to realise there are people follow both codes and would like to attend both those games. Two of the biggest games of the year in hurling and football..
Quote from: Tubberman on June 22, 2025, 04:57:03 PMTyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
What a class act you are, Mayo U17 (kids really) lose by a few points in an All-Ireland semi final, and you seem to think that there are no "Standout Players".
Way to go
Quote from: joemamas on June 23, 2025, 12:33:58 AMQuote from: Tubberman on June 22, 2025, 04:57:03 PMTyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
What a class act you are, Mayo U17 (kids really) lose by a few points in an All-Ireland semi final, and you seem to think that there are no "Standout Players".
Way to go
Mayo u17s played 8 games in the championship and lost 4 of them. They got to a semi final by beating lietrim, Sligo and Offaly. On the other hand in ulster who's counties has dominated recent underage all Irelands a county to reach the same stage have to compete against top teams and 1 defeat may knock them out of the championship.
Never critising a 17yo, seeing a defeat as a success and telling them they are stand out players is what creates that losing mentality in mayo.
Quote from: joemamas on June 23, 2025, 12:33:58 AMQuote from: Tubberman on June 22, 2025, 04:57:03 PMTyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
What a class act you are, Mayo U17 (kids really) lose by a few points in an All-Ireland semi final, and you seem to think that there are no "Standout Players".
Way to go
Relax. I didn't criticise any of the players. I was simply saying they probably got as much out of themselves as you could expect.
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on June 23, 2025, 04:21:42 AMQuote from: joemamas on June 23, 2025, 12:33:58 AMQuote from: Tubberman on June 22, 2025, 04:57:03 PMTyrone should win it. Kerry pushed all the way by a Mayo team that wouldn't be considered to have any standout players really.
What a class act you are, Mayo U17 (kids really) lose by a few points in an All-Ireland semi final, and you seem to think that there are no "Standout Players".
Way to go
Mayo u17s played 8 games in the championship and lost 4 of them. They got to a semi final by beating lietrim, Sligo and Offaly. On the other hand in ulster who's counties has dominated recent underage all Irelands a county to reach the same stage have to compete against top teams and 1 defeat may knock them out of the championship.
Never critising a 17yo, seeing a defeat as a success and telling them they are stand out players is what creates that losing mentality in mayo.
They also beat Galway FYI
The "only Offaly" team they bet were Leinster Champions.
Not sure what Tubberman was watching if he thinks Mayo had no "Standout Players". Will be a team of the year selected after this competition is over and will be a few Mayo players selected.
All Ireland final date of July 5th/6th was set in December with the master fixture list. With Croke Park no longer chosen for this age level any guesses for where this Kerry v Tyrone final will be played?
Portlaoise for the final venue?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 23, 2025, 10:59:25 AMPortlaoise for the final venue?
The last 2 U20 games between the sides have been played in Portlaoise.
July 6th Newbridge?
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 23, 2025, 12:04:56 AMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 22, 2025, 11:06:03 PMFinal is July 5th.
Kerry a tad lucky in the end to come through today in Ennis. With a few mins to go it looked like we were in trouble but Gearoid White and a few others pulled it out of the fire in fairness.
Tyrone will be favourites for the final. I think Kerry will need to get 2/3 goals to win it.
For real? Same day as Cork v Dublin All Ireland semi-final. GAA needs to realise there are people follow both codes and would like to attend both those games. Two of the biggest games of the year in hurling and football..
Very few people will be bothered by that for god sake.
Quote from: WT4E on June 24, 2025, 01:54:51 PMJuly 6th Newbridge?
Confirmed.
Sunday July 6th
Kerry v Tyrone, St Conleth's Park, 1.30pm, TG4
Blow for Tyrone.
Kerr not playing as he has gone to West Ham. How has this happened? I thought he would have had time to finish out this competition?
Quote from: WT4E on July 03, 2025, 01:05:13 PMBlow for Tyrone.
Kerr not playing as he has gone to West Ham. How has this happened? I thought he would have had time to finish out this competition?
Starts with west ham on Monday morning.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 24, 2025, 02:18:01 PMQuote from: WT4E on June 24, 2025, 01:54:51 PMJuly 6th Newbridge?
Confirmed.
Sunday July 6th
Kerry v Tyrone, St Conleth's Park, 1.30pm, TG4
Why didn't they have a double header with the seniors? I'm sure both sets of fans would have watched both , guaranteeing a really good crowd
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 24, 2025, 02:02:32 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on June 23, 2025, 12:04:56 AMQuote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 22, 2025, 11:06:03 PMFinal is July 5th.
Kerry a tad lucky in the end to come through today in Ennis. With a few mins to go it looked like we were in trouble but Gearoid White and a few others pulled it out of the fire in fairness.
Tyrone will be favourites for the final. I think Kerry will need to get 2/3 goals to win it.
For real? Same day as Cork v Dublin All Ireland semi-final. GAA needs to realise there are people follow both codes and would like to attend both those games. Two of the biggest games of the year in hurling and football..
Very few people will be bothered by that for god sake.
True... though not sure bout the "god sake" part like hurling is a whole other foreign game. Is loads follow both codes and go to county hurling from Tyrone.
The Premiership more popular among young GAA supporters here than hurling.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 03, 2025, 01:11:18 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on June 24, 2025, 02:18:01 PMQuote from: WT4E on June 24, 2025, 01:54:51 PMJuly 6th Newbridge?
Confirmed.
Sunday July 6th
Kerry v Tyrone, St Conleth's Park, 1.30pm, TG4
Why didn't they have a double header with the seniors? I'm sure both sets of fans would have watched both , guaranteeing a really good crowd
HQ stopped U17 All Ireland finals in Croke Park a few years ago. Also speeches and after match interviews. Too much pressure on young players shoulders they reckon.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 03, 2025, 01:07:42 PMQuote from: WT4E on July 03, 2025, 01:05:13 PMBlow for Tyrone.
Kerr not playing as he has gone to West Ham. How has this happened? I thought he would have had time to finish out this competition?
Starts with west ham on Monday morning.
Match is on Sunday!
Media reports say his West Ham contract started on July 1st. An oversight that this wasn't sorted before - seriously doubt it would have made a big difference for West Ham to agree to push it back by a few days, particularly when he has been playing for Tyrone already for months after agreeing the West Ham move.
A big loss for Tyrone but also a real shame for the boy himself. Potentially has a great career in soccer ahead of him but playing in an All Ireland football is a special opportunity.
If he plays, what's the worst that West Ham can/will do?
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 04, 2025, 07:01:01 AMIf he plays, what's the worst that West Ham can/will do?
Worst - cancel his contract
Quote from: smort on July 04, 2025, 07:43:53 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 04, 2025, 07:01:01 AMIf he plays, what's the worst that West Ham can/will do?
Worst - cancel his contract
Absolutely. The only way this can result in him being able to play is through amicable negotiations with West Ham.
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on July 04, 2025, 05:52:21 AMMedia reports say his West Ham contract started on July 1st. An oversight that this wasn't sorted before - seriously doubt it would have made a big difference for West Ham to agree to push it back by a few days, particularly when he has been playing for Tyrone already for months after agreeing the West Ham move.
A big loss for Tyrone but also a real shame for the boy himself. Potentially has a great career in soccer ahead of him but playing in an All Ireland football is a special opportunity.
I'd say he is happy enough away to try and make millions whilst this is probably the biggest day most of his teammates will ever get. A real shame they didn't think of GAA when they where signing the contract.
All true. You would imagine that if he is as good as he is meant to be, West Ham are hardly going to tear up the contract if he plays the game
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 04, 2025, 03:41:52 PMAll true. You would imagine that if he is as good as he is meant to be, West Ham are hardly going to tear up the contract if he plays the game
Would you jeopardise a million pound career if there was any risk? As great as it would be to play in an AI final, imagine getting so close to every kids dream just to miss out at the last second.
If he was playing for Kerry he wouldn't be moving until 18 with Brexit. Tough for Tyrone , but they knew he was joining in July so shouldn't be a shock.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 04, 2025, 10:16:54 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 04, 2025, 03:41:52 PMAll true. You would imagine that if he is as good as he is meant to be, West Ham are hardly going to tear up the contract if he plays the game
Would you jeopardise a million pound career if there was any risk? As great as it would be to play in an AI final, imagine getting so close to every kids dream just to miss out at the last second.
Good luck to the lad but the chances of a lucrative deal are remote....99% of academy/ youth players are released before hitting the big time.
He will likely return to play irish league football in two years time...wishing he had played in the final.
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on July 05, 2025, 01:38:10 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 04, 2025, 10:16:54 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 04, 2025, 03:41:52 PMAll true. You would imagine that if he is as good as he is meant to be, West Ham are hardly going to tear up the contract if he plays the game
Would you jeopardise a million pound career if there was any risk? As great as it would be to play in an AI final, imagine getting so close to every kids dream just to miss out at the last second.
Good luck to the lad but the chances of a lucrative deal are remote....99% of academy/ youth players are released before hitting the big time.
He will likely return to play irish league football in two years time...wishing he had played in the final.
I think any of us in that position would do what that lad has the chance to do at his age. Fair play to him.
Go and try it, like AFL or NFL. Live it and enjoy it for a year or two and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out after a year or two, come home and keep going at sport.
Depending how he goes, I don't think he'll be saying to himself in a year or two, ahh, I wish I had played in that minor final. That begrudgery at it's finest. He'll have banked a lot more life experiences that that.
Going by the stats it's going to be a tight one, Kerr out to swing it in Kerry's favour? Stats from gaelicstatsman
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Quote from: marty34 on July 05, 2025, 01:52:15 PMQuote from: Delgany 2nds on July 05, 2025, 01:38:10 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on July 04, 2025, 10:16:54 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on July 04, 2025, 03:41:52 PMAll true. You would imagine that if he is as good as he is meant to be, West Ham are hardly going to tear up the contract if he plays the game
Would you jeopardise a million pound career if there was any risk? As great as it would be to play in an AI final, imagine getting so close to every kids dream just to miss out at the last second.
Good luck to the lad but the chances of a lucrative deal are remote....99% of academy/ youth players are released before hitting the big time.
He will likely return to play irish league football in two years time...wishing he had played in the final.
I think any of us in that position would do what that lad has the chance to do at his age. Fair play to him.
Go and try it, like AFL or NFL. Live it and enjoy it for a year or two and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out after a year or two, come home and keep going at sport.
Depending how he goes, I don't think he'll be saying to himself in a year or two, ahh, I wish I had played in that minor final. That begrudgery at it's finest. He'll have banked a lot more life experiences that that.
There's been no word from the Tyrone camp and the team has not been named. Unless I've missed it.
Kerr named on starting 15 today
Quote from: marty34 on July 05, 2025, 01:52:15 PMDepending how he goes, I don't think he'll be saying to himself in a year or two, ahh, I wish I had played in that minor final. That begrudgery at it's finest. He'll have banked a lot more life experiences that that.
100%.
Obviously desperate to sign. Had his family Kerred about Tyrone it wouldn't have been a problem to sign the contract to start 7th July but they where likely seeing pound signs.
Hope the lads can do it without him as they deserve it. You know what I mean Mucker.
Quote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 11:32:02 AMObviously desperate to sign. Had his family Kerred about Tyrone it wouldn't have been a problem to sign the contract to start 7th July but they where likely seeing pound signs.
Hope the lads can do it without him as they deserve it. You know what I mean Mucker.
What an asshole you are
Quote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 11:32:02 AMObviously desperate to sign. Had his family Kerred about Tyrone it wouldn't have been a problem to sign the contract to start 7th July but they where likely seeing pound signs.
Hope the lads can do it without him as they deserve it. You know what I mean Mucker.
Wtf?
Quote from: Tubberman on July 06, 2025, 11:45:46 AMQuote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 11:32:02 AMObviously desperate to sign. Had his family Kerred about Tyrone it wouldn't have been a problem to sign the contract to start 7th July but they where likely seeing pound signs.
Hope the lads can do it without him as they deserve it. You know what I mean Mucker.
What an asshole you are
Agreed.... The joys of social media where you can anonymously slag off a local family.
Nothing Social about this media mucker. Why don't you dry up lads.
Was the contract signed before or after Minor AI was to be finished???
Quote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 12:09:48 PMNothing Social about this media mucker. Why don't you dry up lads.
Was the contract signed before or after Minor AI was to be finished???
Catch a grip. What a talent hopefully see him back in a Tyrone jersey one day if it doesn't work out for him across the water.
Tyrone are bigger than West Ham. This is fact.
West Ham the epitome of BritishNess
Sure isn't the Rock as British Finchley! They didn't even want irish signs on their new building.
Quote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 12:36:56 PMWest Ham the epitome of BritishNess
Sure isn't the Rock as British Finchley! They didn't even want irish signs on their new building.
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Can't you go 5 minutes today without making a tit of yourself mucker?
I'm from the area, know the Kerrs. Lovely people. And you're a dose of dung.
Kerr replaced in the line up.
It used to be that if you played soccer then you couldn't play Gaelic.
Funny how things change 😮
Pity he can't play but one of those things. Some embarrassing posts on this.
I haven't seen much minor this year but the Ulster final he was fantastic. Seemed less prevalent in the semi but will obviously be a big loss.
Be some achievement to win u20 and minor in one year
Quote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 12:36:56 PMWest Ham the epitome of BritishNess
Sure isn't the Rock as British Finchley! They didn't even want irish signs on their new building.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt"
Kerr Signed with West Ham on July 1st "I know he'll be watching on and cheering us on as best he can but unfortunately for us he's not here today." Tyrone's Ciaran Gourley tell TG4.
Whos managing Kerry Minors, they went 80m of the field there through about 12 handpasses.
Been poor enough so far
Not great but it looks like it'll be tight
Tyrone's defence will win it for them. Kerry's scores harder earned.
ref doesnt care much about the steps rule
Are you allowed to tackle anymore? Ref giving some handy frees to both teams
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2025, 01:30:52 PMKerr Signed with West Ham on July 1st "I know he'll be watching on and cheering us on as best he can but unfortunately for us he's not here today." Tyrone's Ciaran Gourley tell TG4.
Could Kerr not have played anyway, like Kevin Moran used to do? I doubt anyone from West Ham can pick up TG4. Or use Twitter.
Quote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 01:54:07 PMTyrone's defence will win it for them. Kerry's scores harder earned.
Aye, they're swarming every time Kerry come forward. Tyrone look more physical all over the field. Kerry need to transition quicker.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 01:57:28 PMAre you allowed to tackle anymore? Ref giving some handy frees to both teams
yeah - he has given both frees when they carried it into contact and got surrounded. Should have been frees the other way for holding on too long
Midfield going to cost us this game. Yep. Lost the ball and goal straight from it. Have said it all year
Half time Tyrone 0-8 Kerry 1-7. Kerry goal on 28 mins give them the lead at the break.
Sloppy end to the half from tyrone. Should have been in front but silly mistakes cost them about 1-2
Kerry look more dangerous in attack and their backs are not giving Tyrone much space. Enjoyable game after slow start.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2025, 01:57:35 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2025, 01:30:52 PMKerr Signed with West Ham on July 1st "I know he'll be watching on and cheering us on as best he can but unfortunately for us he's not here today." Tyrone's Ciaran Gourley tell TG4.
Could Kerr not have played anyway, like Kevin Moran used to do? I doubt anyone from West Ham can pick up TG4. Or use Twitter.
Don't be a twat ffs.
Tyrone will be annoyed to find themselves two points behind at half time. Were the better team in that half and switched off in the final three of four minutes which you can't do against Kerry at any grade.
Not sure how jumping on someones back isn't a free
Tyrone did well to make it this far considering the problems we have in this team. Would like to see them at U20 level do well but can't see it. Some of these 'fouls' a joke too. Thought the whole point of the new rules was to see more physical play.
great recovery by tyrone #2 A goal there was the game
Kerry got a point from the 45 but it was harder to made a mess of that goal chance, than put it in the net.
tyrone so unlucky there
Crazy stuff in the Kerry goalmouth
Tyrone not taking the easy scores
Tyrone left two goals behind them but keeper v lucky. Great setup for finish
big finish ahead now
Tyrone really cranking it up the last 10 mins or so.
Might catch by 18 there!
Tyrone wastefulness will haunt them
that a shocking wide
Tyrone kicking this away. Feel they will regret it when Kerry get a late 2 pointer.
Amount of chances tyrone have missed is mental
Quote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:10:08 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2025, 01:57:35 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2025, 01:30:52 PMKerr Signed with West Ham on July 1st "I know he'll be watching on and cheering us on as best he can but unfortunately for us he's not here today." Tyrone's Ciaran Gourley tell TG4.
Could Kerr not have played anyway, like Kevin Moran used to do? I doubt anyone from West Ham can pick up TG4. Or use Twitter.
Don't be a twat ffs.
It's true though . That's what he did ;)
Extra time might be fair enough outcome. Good tussle but poor kicking
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 06, 2025, 02:45:30 PMAmount of chances tyrone have missed is mental
Should be out of sight. Now a point down.
Never should that lad got through there.
14 for Kerry a fair player!
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2025, 02:45:55 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:10:08 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 06, 2025, 01:57:35 PMQuote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2025, 01:30:52 PMKerr Signed with West Ham on July 1st "I know he'll be watching on and cheering us on as best he can but unfortunately for us he's not here today." Tyrone's Ciaran Gourley tell TG4.
Could Kerr not have played anyway, like Kevin Moran used to do? I doubt anyone from West Ham can pick up TG4. Or use Twitter.
Don't be a twat ffs.
It's true though . That's what he did ;)
There are lots of true things that are f**king irrelevant.
Our midfield is invisible and has been all year
Kerry have it won. Tyrone have kicked away.
Tyrone misses are shocking, both in shot selection and execution.
how many times have they hit the post
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
Why that cub not fist that over the bar!
they deserved it
Well done Tyrone. Thought kicked away. Great free from the no 11 to equalise.
Simultaneously just about deserved and lucky. Fair play to Tyrone, some incredible infrastructure they have.
Frig it, we're winning the lot.
Quote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:50:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
The one that gave the ball away? They've been poor all year. Was Donaghy that gave it away for the goal too. Very lucky to win in the end I thought
Mayo players should be feeling they're as good as any in the country after that.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2025, 02:51:04 PMWhy that cub not fist that over the bar!
Nearly like he was trying to work a goal. Last play of the all ireland final. Dream come true stuff if he scores it.
Tight call for a penalty at the end, that said he should have fisted it over the bar
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2025, 02:51:04 PMWhy that cub not fist that over the bar!
Should have. People don't like the fisted point but it wins you games
Didn't see the first half. Criminal that Kerr wasn't there for it, such a missed opportunity for a young lad. f**k West Ham for not letting him start the contract a week late.
No.5 Quinn MOTM, thought Mulgrew in midfield or the full back were better.
Always nice to beat Kerry.
Such a fine margin All Ireland final, Tyrone did well to come back from 4 points behind with 12 minutes to play to end up winning by one. FT Tyrone 1-16 Kerry 1-15. First time Tyrone have won the Tom Markham Cup since 2010 they did win the U17 All Ireland in 2017 beating Roscommon in the final Darragh Canavan the stand out player in that one and will be intetesting to see how many of those Kerry and Tyrone players will go on to be established seniors.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2025, 02:54:57 PMTight call for a penalty at the end, that said he should have fisted it over the bar
Ah no - defenders did very well and didnt foul him. Should have taken his point
Terrific interview here with Donnelly.
Mighty win! Double whammy beating Kerry. Tír Eoghain abú! 🏆
The treble is still on! Burns giving it large
Jarlath literally not knowing his left from his right.
Anyone else find Burns awful hard to listen to?
Tyrone captain mentioned Colton and Kerr being with them on this journey, is Colton heading off to play soccer too?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2025, 02:54:57 PMTight call for a penalty at the end, that said he should have fisted it over the bar
Definitely should have fisted it over, v difficult for 17 year olds to have that clarity of thought in those circumstances though
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:53:30 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:50:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
The one that gave the ball away? They've been poor all year. Was Donaghy that gave it away for the goal too. Very lucky to win in the end I thought
Sorry, missed the bit where you updated the definition of "visible" to "commits no errors at all".
Hasn't realised it was Diarmuid Martin who got the winner. Couldn't write it. Congrats Tyrone.
Was it just my eyes or were the Tyrone boys much bigger?
They did a nice job upping the intensity and making that comeback. Kerry has had no luck against Tyrone this year. Will it carry over to next weekend?
Tyrone would have been sick had they not won that, took a long time to get going then when they did made a mess of some huge goal chances as well as bad wides. Have to give them great credit though, still found a way and showed huge character to seize control in closing quarter when a few points down and against the wind. Mulgrew a huge influence.
Commiserations to Kerry. Some fine young players who we'll see again in the years ahead.
Quote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:50:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
James Mulgrew is literally 1 of the Best minor footballers I've ever seen. He was incredible, can't believe he wasn't Man of the Match. Skill hanging out of him for a midfielder
Tyrone missed Kerr MASSIVELY yet somehow won (despite AWFUL shot selection and wides).
Kerry fella should've handpassed the point and went to extra time there
Quote from: trileacman on July 06, 2025, 03:03:24 PMAnyone else find Burns awful hard to listen to?
Tyrone captain mentioned Colton and Kerr being with them on this journey, is Colton heading off to play soccer too?
Really hogs the mic. Give the young lad the cup.
Quote from: EoinW on July 06, 2025, 03:07:54 PMWas it just my eyes or were the Tyrone boys much bigger?
They did a nice job upping the intensity and making that comeback. Kerry has had no luck against Tyrone this year. Will it carry over to next weekend?
Tyrone were lucky today for sure but the u-20s were miles and miles in front of Kerry.
Quote from: Tubberman on July 06, 2025, 03:03:42 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2025, 02:54:57 PMTight call for a penalty at the end, that said he should have fisted it over the bar
Definitely should have fisted it over, v difficult for 17 year olds to have that clarity of thought in those circumstances though
Did an under 16 game recently and the fullforward scored his first 5 points by fisting the ball over the bar, it was very effective and some lads were a bit perplexed as he was doing it but it worked well, it's difficult way to stop it..
This manager needs to sit down in a dark room for a while
Bigger and stronger looking I thought too, not that it made all that much difference on the pitch.
Incredibly emotional interview with Kerry manager Wayne Quillinan. He's obviously and understandably completely devastated for his lads.
Quote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:57:43 PMTerrific interview here with Donnelly.
Here he's a great fella altogether. Fair play to him managing to bring that talent through and winning
I thought Jarlath's speech today was grand btw. Has to acknowledge both teams, especially after a final as tight as that. People may disagree with him plenty, but as an orator there haven't been many like him in the Association's history.
Quote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 03:14:26 PMI thought Jarlath's speech today was grand btw. Has to acknowledge both teams, especially after a final as tight as that. People may disagree with him plenty, but as an orator there haven't been many like him in the Association's history.
Agreed, some of the speeches have been fantastic. Mentioning the counties and showing genuine knowledge etc.
After a few though people started thinking he was enjoying it too much, it was the Jarleth Show, he'd eat himself etc
But there hasn't been an Orator like him, that's fair.
Very emotional stuff by the Kerry manager, clearly a very tough defeat to take especially the manner of it. When four points ahead with 12 minutes to play with the wind advantage they must have thought the win for there for them. Then took the lead again on 60 minutes after the set back with the Tyrone scored penalty. Am I right in saying the match winning score from Diarmuid Martin is the lad that replaced Joel Kerr in the starting team today?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2025, 03:17:56 PMVery emotional stuff by the Kerry manager, clearly a very tough defeat to take especially the manner of it. When four points ahead with 12 minutes to play with the wind advantage they must have thought the win for there for them. Then took the lead again on 60 minutes after the set back with the Tyrone scored penalty. Am I right in saying the match winning score from Diarmuid Martin is the lad that replaced Joel Kerr in the starting team today?
Yes thats right
Tough on Kerry, but Tyrone were the better team. Deserved winners.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 06, 2025, 01:12:43 PMQuote from: Grace Murphy on July 06, 2025, 12:36:56 PMWest Ham the epitome of BritishNess
Sure isn't the Rock as British Finchley! They didn't even want irish signs on their new building.
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Can't you go 5 minutes today without making a tit of yourself mucker?
I'm from the area, know the Kerrs. Lovely people. And you're a dose of dung.
I didn't say there wasn't irish writing on the Rock Building. I said there where some who didn't want it. Check that out.
Im from Antrim im sure the Kerrs are lovely people.
On another note great win very happy for the lads, Kerr didn't show up Gourley was saying. No worries mucker
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 06, 2025, 03:52:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Yes Mulgrew looks like one of a handful of Tyrone players today and in other games that should go on to be Senior county player so long as injuries don't get in the way or if another sport doesn't snap him up.
Good game after a slow nervy start by both. Don't think Kerry could have played any better did so much right but Tyrone found a way to win in end, fitness and conditioning very impressive for U17 team and they got big impact off their bench.
Didn't really get a good look at that incident at the end that may or may not have been a penalty - anyone get a good look at it ?
Quote from: cadhlancian on July 06, 2025, 04:02:20 PMDidn't really get a good look at that incident at the end that may or may not have been a penalty - anyone get a good look at it ?
They didn't show a close up replay of the incident. Looked like it could have went either way. I'd say if it happened 10 mins earlier ref could have given it. No way he was gonna give it when it would have decided the match.
Great heart by the Tyrone lads to come back. That wind really seemed to pick up in second half and severely impacted shooting. In saying that some of the decision making wasn't great but most of those lads 16 so we can only salute the bravery, commitment and skill from both teams.
Quote from: cadhlancian on July 06, 2025, 04:02:20 PMDidn't really get a good look at that incident at the end that may or may not have been a penalty - anyone get a good look at it ?
No penalty. Kerry lad looked like he was looking the foul and Tyrone didn't fall for it. Thought he could have fisted it over for an equaliser.
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 06, 2025, 03:52:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Genuinely don't see what others are seeing. He was better in this game than he was in previous but I just don't rate him. Would like to see the kickout statistics particularly in the first half because it seemed like Kerry were winning the large majority. I think he'll be another player like McHugh or McGleenan who can dominate in the underage games but haven't broke out in seniors as of yet and I can't see them ever doing it unfortunately
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 04:46:27 PMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 06, 2025, 03:52:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Genuinely don't see what others are seeing. He was better in this game than he was in previous but I just don't rate him. Would like to see the kickout statistics particularly in the first half because it seemed like Kerry were winning the large majority. I think he'll be another player like McHugh or McGleenan who can dominate in the underage games but haven't broke out in seniors as of yet and I can't see them ever doing it unfortunately
Good to see someone with plenty of patience
These lads are only a year out of U-16, I seen lads at that age i thought would play county, and end up not even playing for their club team after 5/6yrs.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2025, 04:56:58 PMThese lads are only a year out if U-16, I seen lads at that age i thought would play county and end up not even playing for their club team after 5/6yrs.
Yes the same as plenty lose interest once life,college work etc gets in the way. Yet It's rare that recall many that has stood out at this grade as Mulgrew has and didn't end up playing for their Club team years later.
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 06, 2025, 04:51:09 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 04:46:27 PMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 06, 2025, 03:52:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Genuinely don't see what others are seeing. He was better in this game than he was in previous but I just don't rate him. Would like to see the kickout statistics particularly in the first half because it seemed like Kerry were winning the large majority. I think he'll be another player like McHugh or McGleenan who can dominate in the underage games but haven't broke out in seniors as of yet and I can't see them ever doing it unfortunately
Good to see someone with plenty of patience
I'm more patient than most when new players get to the senior county team. I've seen players call for R. Canavan, Teague, Niall Devlin and whoever else to be dropped after a few seasons. I always say it takes a good 3-4 years minimum before a player is ready for senior county. I just don't think some of them will be good enough for maybe U20s even
Great game.
Kerry must be sick to the back teeth of Tyrone at this stage.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2025, 05:04:43 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2025, 04:56:58 PMThese lads are only a year out if U-16, I seen lads at that age i thought would play county and end up not even playing for their club team after 5/6yrs.
Yes the same as plenty lose interest once life,college work etc gets in the way. Yet It's rare that recall many that has stood out at this grade as Mulgrew has and didn't end up playing for their Club team years later.
And I wouldn't say club level. They'll be playing club level no doubt but haven't shown enough at this level that would suggest they'd be capable of senior county
Feel for the Kerry young fellas there.
Did very well for underdogs, but poor enough second half cost us.
Fair play to both teams, very entertaining game. We'll be seeing more of plenty of these guys at u20 and beyond.
Thought Tyrone were going to repeat the 2021 All Ireland Minor final again, when they were the better team but kicked it away rather than Meath winning it.
What's the story with rules at different grades? Hard to keep up. Some grades have all the new rules and others don't?
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 06, 2025, 07:15:22 PMThought Tyrone were going to repeat the 2021 All Ireland Minor final again, when they were the better team but kicked it away rather than Meath winning it.
What's the story with rules at different grades? Hard to keep up. Some grades have all the new rules and others don't?
Like what? Only thing they didn't have today I think was the hooter, no?
There seemed to be a lot more leniency on some of the other rules compared to the seniors, which is understandable. I was expecting the ball moved on a few times for things like not handing the ball back immediately or tackling after the free was given but he seemed to hold back on that.
What a lot of Tyrone people are asking is why was Kerr on the panel?
It was well known he was going to West Ham.
So really he was taking up a place for another young fellow who was potentially going to play u20 or even senior.
Quote from: Bring back club football on July 06, 2025, 09:29:31 PMWhat a lot of Tyrone people are asking is why was Kerr on the panel?
It was well known he was going to West Ham.
So really he was taking up a place for another young fellow who was potentially going to play u20 or even senior.
A fair point given that the purpose of minors is to develop players who can play u20 and hopefully senior.
If it was known Kerr was heading off to play soccer, what was the rationale in playing him?
Quote from: Tubberman on July 06, 2025, 09:39:21 PMA fair point given that the purpose of minors is to develop players who can play u20 and hopefully senior.
Is it? "The" purpose? Either singular or primary?
Quote from: Tubberman on July 06, 2025, 09:39:21 PMQuote from: Bring back club football on July 06, 2025, 09:29:31 PMWhat a lot of Tyrone people are asking is why was Kerr on the panel?
It was well known he was going to West Ham.
So really he was taking up a place for another young fellow who was potentially going to play u20 or even senior.
A fair point given that the purpose of minors is to develop players who can play u20 and hopefully senior.
If it was known Kerr was heading off to play soccer, what was the rationale in playing him?
The rationale is/was the management wanted a shiny cup.
It was well known this team was very good, next years team will be easily as good if not better.
Were West Ham even aware that he had been playing Gaelic up the Final? He signed for West Ham on May 26th but didn't officially join until July 1st for pre season. He had picked up a serious injury in that period it wouldn't have been a good look.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:53:30 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:50:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
The one that gave the ball away? They've been poor all year. Was Donaghy that gave it away for the goal too. Very lucky to win in the end I thought
I have to say bigfullforward must be a relative of a jilted U17 midfielder. We are so proud of James - he is a great player and a great prospect for Tyrone. I thought he was unlucky not to get MOTM. He's a modest lad who is skilful and works hard every day. To say he is invisible is laughable. He finished the Championship with 0-17 from midfield - scoring in every game. The other 3 midfielders before today had 1-0, 0-2 & 0-1. A combined 1-3.
Well Done Tyrone and Well Done to Our very own James Mulgrew!!!!!
Mulgrew reminded me of Sean Cavanagh and Cormac at underage at times during that game.
Colton was very good.
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 04:46:27 PMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 06, 2025, 03:52:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Genuinely don't see what others are seeing. He was better in this game than he was in previous but I just don't rate him. Would like to see the kickout statistics particularly in the first half because it seemed like Kerry were winning the large majority. I think he'll be another player like McHugh or McGleenan who can dominate in the underage games but haven't broke out in seniors as of yet and I can't see them ever doing it unfortunately
Bit mad writing a lad off for seniors...and him only 16 or 17.
Let the lad develop in his own time.
Tyrone look likely to catch Cork and Dublin in near future who share second place for most titles with 11. Tyrone have 9.
Kerry of course at the top with 16.
Quote from: ONeill on July 06, 2025, 11:08:42 PMMulgrew reminded me of Sean Cavanagh and Cormac at underage at times during that game.
Colton was very good.
The highest possible compliment. I agree re the Cavanagh comparison driving through. Cavanagh to my mind was THEE most important Tyrone player back then.....without him driving his team forward they wouldn't have won any of the All Ireland's in the noughties (in my opinion) whilst they could and did when a Muggsy or O Neill and even P Canavan wasn't there.
Off on a tangent there but I saw similarities with Cavanagh too.....driving through the middle at pace, though his feet appear to be better, silkier. Anyway he's no age so we'll just have to wait and see.
What a game though, winner unknown to the last second and every ball contested
Quote from: marty34 on July 06, 2025, 11:50:21 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 04:46:27 PMQuote from: BennyHarp on July 06, 2025, 03:52:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
I'd say this is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read on a team. Mulgrew in particular is a superb footballer. Hard to believe anyone can watch that Tyrone team this year and draw the conclusion that he's been invisible.
Genuinely don't see what others are seeing. He was better in this game than he was in previous but I just don't rate him. Would like to see the kickout statistics particularly in the first half because it seemed like Kerry were winning the large majority. I think he'll be another player like McHugh or McGleenan who can dominate in the underage games but haven't broke out in seniors as of yet and I can't see them ever doing it unfortunately
Bit mad writing a lad off for seniors...and him only 16 or 17.
Let the lad develop in his own time.
I've seen ones right off R. Canavan, Daly, Devlin etc after a year or 2 in senior setup. I always say it takes until 23/24 until a player is ready for the seniors. I just don't think they stood out as much at that level as other people seem to think they have.
Quote from: WT4E on July 06, 2025, 10:53:55 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:53:30 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:50:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
The one that gave the ball away? They've been poor all year. Was Donaghy that gave it away for the goal too. Very lucky to win in the end I thought
I have to say bigfullforward must be a relative of a jilted U17 midfielder. We are so proud of James - he is a great player and a great prospect for Tyrone. I thought he was unlucky not to get MOTM. He's a modest lad who is skilful and works hard every day. To say he is invisible is laughable. He finished the Championship with 0-17 from midfield - scoring in every game. The other 3 midfielders before today had 1-0, 0-2 & 0-1. A combined 1-3.
Well Done Tyrone and Well Done to Our very own James Mulgrew!!!!!
I don't recall saying he doesn't work hard or any of that. Absolutely fair play to him and well done. I just don't think they dominated in the middle of the park like others seem to think. Feels like Kerry won the majority of the 50/50 ball until our full back came up to win a few
Quote from: thebigfullforward on July 07, 2025, 12:31:23 PMQuote from: WT4E on July 06, 2025, 10:53:55 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:53:30 PMQuote from: gallsman on July 06, 2025, 02:50:17 PMQuote from: thebigfullforward on July 06, 2025, 02:48:15 PMOur midfield is invisible and has been all year
That's not true, Mulgrew has been one of the standout players on the pitch.
The one that gave the ball away? They've been poor all year. Was Donaghy that gave it away for the goal too. Very lucky to win in the end I thought
I have to say bigfullforward must be a relative of a jilted U17 midfielder. We are so proud of James - he is a great player and a great prospect for Tyrone. I thought he was unlucky not to get MOTM. He's a modest lad who is skilful and works hard every day. To say he is invisible is laughable. He finished the Championship with 0-17 from midfield - scoring in every game. The other 3 midfielders before today had 1-0, 0-2 & 0-1. A combined 1-3.
Well Done Tyrone and Well Done to Our very own James Mulgrew!!!!!
I don't recall saying he doesn't work hard or any of that. Absolutely fair play to him and well done. I just don't think they dominated in the middle of the park like others seem to think. Feels like Kerry won the majority of the 50/50 ball until our full back came up to win a few
Give it up. Young Mulgrew was superb yesterday and has been the whole campaign.
Is Darren McAnespie a brother of Monaghan footballer Ryan McAnespie?
Quote from: trileacman on July 07, 2025, 10:27:53 PMIs Darren McAnespie a brother of Monaghan footballer Ryan McAnespie?
Yeah. Be a bit of a unique one if he ended up making senior in a few years and played against Monaggsn with Ryan still about.
Team of the year named today.
7 for the All-Ireland winners
6 the All-Ireland runners up
1 each for the beaten All-Ireland semi-finalists
Ronan Donnelly (Tyrone)
Elliott Kerr (Tyrone)
Padraig Goodman (Tyrone)
Ronan Sheridan (Kerry)
Danny Murphy (Kerry)
David Sargent (Kerry)
Aodhan Quinn (Tyrone)
James Mulgrew (Tyrone)
John Curtin (Kerry)
Dara Curran (Roscommon)
Peter Colton (Tyrone)
Gearóid White (Kerry)
Ben Kelliher (Kerr)
Eoin Long (Tyrone)
Ben Holmes (Mayo)
Peter Colton named player of the year.
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 06, 2025, 02:02:22 PMTeam of the year named today.
7 for the All-Ireland winners
6 the All-Ireland runners up
1 each for the beaten All-Ireland semi-finalists
Ronan Donnelly (Tyrone)
Elliott Kerr (Tyrone)
Padraig Goodman (Tyrone)
Ronan Sheridan (Kerry)
Danny Murphy (Kerry)
David Sargent (Kerry)
Aodhan Quinn (Tyrone)
James Mulgrew (Tyrone)
John Curtin (Kerry)
Dara Curran (Roscommon)
Peter Colton (Tyrone)
Gearóid White (Kerry)
Ben Kelliher (Kerr)
Eoin Long (Tyrone)
Ben Holmes (Mayo)
Peter Colton named player of the year.
How did that chap Mulgrew get on there, sure he's useless ;-)
Keyser as a complete conversation shift I used a variation of your name on a Twitter reply last night. Went to be bed expecting to wake to to thousands of likes......not a f*cking one. Gutted.
Anyway, carry on