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Title: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 11, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
From the BBC website:

Sex offenders' membership of the Orange Order will be automatically terminated under a new policy.

"The last time we updated our internal discipline procedures there was no such thing as the Sex Offenders' Register," said Grand Secretary Drew Nelson.

"Our new policy with regards to sex offenders should be in place within a year."

It will mean that anyone on the Sex Offenders' Register will effectively bar themselves from membership.

Mr Nelson said: "I don't think this will be a bigger issue for the Orange Order than anyone else, but it's definitely something that has to be addressed and it's one of a number of issues we're currently working on."

In the past the organisation which has come in for criticism over members who were convicted of terrorism-related offences remaining within its ranks.

Addressing this issue, Mr Nelson said: "Our discipline review will look at members with any kind of serious conviction."

Looking forward to the summer, which sees the highlight of the Orange calendar, 12 July, Mr Nelson said: "It should hopefully be peaceful and successful.

"I think those opposed to our parades on principle, if you like, are becoming increasingly isolated."

The origins of the Orange Order date from the 17th century battle for supremacy between Protestantism and Catholicism.

Prince William of Orange, originally of the Netherlands, led the fight against Catholic King James.

He eventually took the throne in England and his final victory over James at the Battle of the Boyne in Ireland in 1690, sealed the religion's supremacy in the British Isles.

Presumably, paedophiles will now (well in a year or so) join the ranks of Roman Catholics (sic) as being barred from the Loyal Orders.
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: ziggysego on June 11, 2007, 03:12:20 PM
Correct decision. Well done OO.
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: Donagh on June 11, 2007, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 11, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
Presumably, paedophiles will now (well in a year or so) join the ranks of Roman Catholics (sic) as being barred from the Loyal Orders.

But not sectarian murderers...
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: Tonto on June 11, 2007, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: Donagh on June 11, 2007, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 11, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
Presumably, paedophiles will now (well in a year or so) join the ranks of Roman Catholics (sic) as being barred from the Loyal Orders.

But not sectarian murderers...

I hear they are now allowed to join Sinn Fein as well....
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: Donagh on June 11, 2007, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Tonto on June 11, 2007, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: Donagh on June 11, 2007, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 11, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
Presumably, paedophiles will now (well in a year or so) join the ranks of Roman Catholics (sic) as being barred from the Loyal Orders.

But not sectarian murderers...

I hear they are now allowed to join Sinn Fein as well....

I'm sure the Grand Wizard of the Starry Anus would thank for that comeback Tonto.  ::)
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: Fishead_Sam on June 11, 2007, 03:31:58 PM
At last the Orange Order are directing their hate at someone who actually deserves it.
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: stew on June 11, 2007, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: Fishead_Sam on June 11, 2007, 03:31:58 PM
At last the Orange Order are directing their hate at someone who actually deservses it.

It only took the hewers a few hundred years. :o
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: GweylTah on June 14, 2007, 10:01:41 PM
Meanwhile ....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6753701.stm


>:(
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: Orior on June 14, 2007, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: GweylTah on June 14, 2007, 10:01:41 PM
Meanwhile ....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6753701.stm


>:(


Of course there were never any bad apples in Kincora.
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: GweylTah on June 17, 2007, 12:20:57 PM
The Catholic Church is considering the future of a priest jailed for five years for helping a known paedophile groom a 12-year-old girl for sex.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6760935.stm

What's to "consider"?   ???    Get rid!


>:(
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 17, 2007, 12:39:13 PM
 ::)

If you read the article gweyltah you would see...
QuoteHe was sentenced last week. On Saturday, the bishop of Clogher said the priest's order woud decide his future when the judicial process ended.
I'd say that's probably fair enough. 


That case is strange though, how can two men have that type of access to a young girl.

Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: GweylTah on June 17, 2007, 12:59:42 PM
The judicial process IS over - unless he or the church is going to appeal the verdict or sentence. Or do they regard the judicial process as including the sentence itself, maybe they'll reprimand him when he's released?

Churches and other religious bodies seem a bit  too fond of behaving like secret societies when their people are involved in things like this, as if they are somehow above the law. It's a disturbing trait.
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 17, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
QuoteThe judicial process IS over - unless he or the church is going to appeal the verdict or sentence. Or do they regard the judicial process as including the sentence itself, maybe they'll reprimand him when he's released?
Why would the church appeal it?

I'd normally be the last person to defend the church but I don't see what they are doing wrong.  I'd imagine it's a matter of time before he's kicked out but I'd also imagine that, llike with any body or association, there is a process. 

What is your problem here, blind bigotry I think. 
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 17, 2007, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on June 17, 2007, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: GweylTah on June 17, 2007, 12:59:42 PM
Churches and other religious bodies seem a bit  too fond of behaving like secret societies when their people are involved in things like this, as if they are somehow above the law. It's a disturbing trait.

I have to agree with Gweyltah. He has been convicted, he should have been sacked, defrocked, thrown out, whatever you want to call it.
In the same way that the Police Sergent, who was the face of the anti-drink drive campaign should have been sacked when she was caught drinking and driving.
But he hasn't not been thrown out 5ive Times!
Title: Re: Orange Order to boot out paedophiles
Post by: stew on June 17, 2007, 04:21:30 PM
If he hasnt been convicted then the church has done nothing wrong, if he has and they are still deciding they have learned nothing from the recent past, anyone who hid these disgusting animals away after ruining the lives of the young in this manner are as guilty as the tramps that raped the young boys and girls.