A pity to see. The greatest footballer of all time and always called out the Bellshill
https://www.the42.ie/pat-spillane-rte-the-sunday-game-5812556-Jul2022/?section=comment#comments
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0708/1309175-pat-spillane-to-leave-the-sunday-game-after-30-years/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euR_Idiso-Y
Thank you Lord.
McStsy, Canning, Morrissey..........please copy.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2022, 05:22:03 PM
Thank you Lord.
McStsy, Canning, Morrissey..........please copy.
And let's hope Dessie Dolan stays away also.
About time. I'd say he was offered the chance to leave. I don't think I have anything good to say about his punditry.
Characteristics that come to mind :
Dated
Biased
Stole a living
Used irrelevant stats
Poor knowledge of weaker counties
Stereotyped counties
Lazy or no research
Lost control of emotions
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
About time. I'd say he was offered the chance to leave. I don't think I have anything good to say about his punditry.
Characteristics that come to mind :
Dated
Biased
Stole a living
Used irrelevant stats
Poor knowledge of weaker counties
Stereotyped counties
Lazy or no research
Lost control of emotions
Didn't he come out months ago and confessed had never watched Division 3 and 4 teams? Supposed to be rte lead pundit.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
About time. I'd say he was offered the chance to leave. I don't think I have anything good to say about his punditry.
Characteristics that come to mind :
Dated
Biased
Stole a living
Used irrelevant stats
Poor knowledge of weaker counties
Stereotyped counties
Lazy or no research
Lost control of emotions
Sin é! :D
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
About time. I'd say he was offered the chance to leave. I don't think I have anything good to say about his punditry.
Characteristics that come to mind :
Dated
Biased
Stole a living
Used irrelevant stats
Poor knowledge of weaker counties
Stereotyped counties
Lazy or no research
Lost control of emotions
Well said!
Long overdue. He was either just saying things to try and be controversial (successfully on a number of occasions), or his ability to analyse a game or situation was really bad. Either way, not a serious analyst. He also struggled to remain impartial and control his emotions. All in all, a very poor pundit who should never have lasted this long.
The constant negativity is a lot. RTE should be promoting the product. The game today wasn't a classic by no means, but was interesting to watch at times during the first half, it's their job to keep me interested, if I want bad analysis, negativity and rose tinted nostalgia, Facebook is more convenient.
Pat Spillane and so many of the other RTE old guard are almost encouraging everyone to switch off unless it's Kerry V Dublin.
He won't be missed. But I'm sure he will be replaced by a rte robot who doesn't gave his own opinion.
Good
Why is he waiting for tomorrow's paper to reveal why?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Why is he waiting for tomorrow's paper to reveal why?
Mandatory retirement from RTE/RTE contractors on age grounds? I think he'll be 67 this year.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Why is he waiting for tomorrow's paper to reveal why?
Probably going to Sky. Ha
Pat's cute hoorism Tyrone baiting compensated for ALL shortcomings. He took big (stuttering) Colm Cavanagh to the cleaners with just a conspiracy theory (or was it?). Although it doesn't take much, but the fact that most all Tyronies are agitated by well mannered Pat is just yet another testimony to their paranoia and deep insecurity.
True story.
does he have a podcast or appears on someones podcast weekly
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on July 09, 2022, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Why is he waiting for tomorrow's paper to reveal why?
Mandatory retirement from RTE/RTE contractors on age grounds? I think he'll be 67 this year.
Good stuff, that means Joe Duffy is gone in January!
One of the best footballers of all time. Punditry not so much. RTE need to take a look at the Sky and BBC coverage/Punditry and modernise.
RTÉ did a decent but of punditry for the Tailteann Semis and Final.
No rants, no waffling, intelligent questions etc.
Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2022, 11:50:44 PM
Pat's cute hoorism Tyrone baiting compensated for ALL shortcomings. He took big (stuttering) Colm Cavanagh to the cleaners with just a conspiracy theory (or was it?). Although it doesn't take much, but the fact that most all Tyronies are agitated by well mannered Pat is just yet another testimony to their paranoia and deep insecurity.
Pat only said couple weeks in SW Tyrone conned Kerry last year. He said Tyrone were masters of one in a row and won soft All Ireland in 2021. He will never get over Tyrone beaten Kerry in 03,05,08.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 10, 2022, 10:39:33 AM
RTÉ did a decent but of punditry for the Tailteann Semis and Final.
No rants, no waffling, intelligent questions etc.
+1. The boys knew their stuff. Who was the lad with Ross Munnelly?
Wasn't it Micky Quinn of Longford?
Beirne from Leitrim
Quote from: Rossfan on July 10, 2022, 10:43:32 AM
Wasn't it Micky Quinn of Longford?
Thanks. I say was him. I thought Lawlor called him Nicky but heard wrong.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Why is he waiting for tomorrow's paper to reveal why?
Nothing in the paper.
He'll keep his powder dry in the paper till a few weeks after the all ireland final.
Quote from: TheMistro on July 10, 2022, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2022, 11:50:44 PM
Pat's cute hoorism Tyrone baiting compensated for ALL shortcomings. He took big (stuttering) Colm Cavanagh to the cleaners with just a conspiracy theory (or was it?). Although it doesn't take much, but the fact that most all Tyronies are agitated by well mannered Pat is just yet another testimony to their paranoia and deep insecurity.
Pat only said couple weeks in SW Tyrone conned Kerry last year. He said Tyrone were masters of one in a row and won soft All Ireland in 2021. He will never get over Tyrone beaten Kerry in 03,05,08.
If I was from Kerry, I would not bring up soft All-Irelands. They have lost the vast majority of their tight finals in the last few decades and been uncontested in the rest.
They way he went on and so many others, it was as if Tyrone had went and used the delay to use voodoo on the Kerry team.
If Kerry were as good as they were made out to be, they should have beaten Tyrone well, a Tyrone that had significant issues in the run up to the game, plenty of testimony from the players and management attesting to that.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 10, 2022, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: TheMistro on July 10, 2022, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2022, 11:50:44 PM
Pat's cute hoorism Tyrone baiting compensated for ALL shortcomings. He took big (stuttering) Colm Cavanagh to the cleaners with just a conspiracy theory (or was it?). Although it doesn't take much, but the fact that most all Tyronies are agitated by well mannered Pat is just yet another testimony to their paranoia and deep insecurity.
Pat only said couple weeks in SW Tyrone conned Kerry last year. He said Tyrone were masters of one in a row and won soft All Ireland in 2021. He will never get over Tyrone beaten Kerry in 03,05,08.
If I was from Kerry, I would not bring up soft All-Irelands. They have lost the vast majority of their tight finals in the last few decades and been uncontested in the rest.
They way he went on and so many others, it was as if Tyrone had went and used the delay to use voodoo on the Kerry team.
If Kerry were as good as they were made out to be, they should have beaten Tyrone well, a Tyrone that had significant issues in the run up to the game, plenty of testimony from the players and management attesting to that.
04,06 beat Mayo
07, 09 beat Cork
In 20 years they only won one all Ireland against a "credible" team - Donegal in 2014
Quote from: snoopdog on July 09, 2022, 07:50:22 PM
He won't be missed. But I'm sure he will be replaced by a rte robot who doesn't gave his own opinion.
More than likely replaced by a female
Tbh some of his rambles were embarrassing. He had his time but it was a long time ago.
Time for some insightful analysis. RTÉ just couldn't have it with him there. I'm not convinced on o'rourke either (and definitely not cavanagh).
RTE have been completely sanitized, they had George Hook and Bret Pope in the rugby with Tom Mc Gurk chairing, Dumphy and Giles with Bill trying to keep them in order and Brolly, Spillane and O Rourke with Lyster.
They may have talked some crap at times but they were definitely entertainment value. Now bland PC brigade crap with Cantwell, Richie Sadlier and the likes reading pre wrote scripts and notes.
To be fair to the BBC GAA coverage Mark Sidebottom lets Oisin, Peter and Mickey Harte at it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2022, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on July 09, 2022, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Why is he waiting for tomorrow's paper to reveal why?
Mandatory retirement from RTE/RTE contractors on age grounds? I think he'll be 67 this year.
Good stuff, that means Joe Duffy is gone in January!
Sadly, no. Duffy is an independent contractor, rather than someone employed on an RTÉ contract. So is Tubridy, Ray D'Arcy, a few more.
Brolly was calling people's integrity into question and using the show as a vehicle for personal gripes. People didn't deserve what he came out with.
Spillane is outdated. Time for some real pundits.
Will Spillane's replacement have to be from Kerry ?
I wish they wouldn't get players based on their playing ability, their profile or the county they played for. Thought McGinley was very good yesterday.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 10, 2022, 04:23:02 PM
I wish they wouldn't get players based on their playing ability, their profile or the county they played for. Thought McGinley was very good yesterday.
Brendan Devenney is very good. So is Eamon Fitzmaurice. Loads of decent analysts on radio
Fitzmaurice very good.
Canning and McStay need thrown out the gap too.. Horrendous
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 10, 2022, 07:38:15 PM
Canning and McStay need thrown out the gap too.. Horrendous
Thankfully Pat got the hint. Cantwell, Cahill and O'Rourke need to get the door too. Sky Sports analysis is way ahead. Analysise the actual game and give a good insight to game. RTE is dominated by certain pundits pursuing their own agenda and throwing in a couple lazy stats.
Summed up by Saturday Spillane made it about himself announcing he was retiring instead of talking about Tailteann Cup final.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
About time. I'd say he was offered the chance to leave. I don't think I have anything good to say about his punditry.
Characteristics that come to mind :
Dated
Biased
Stole a living
Used irrelevant stats
Poor knowledge of weaker counties
Stereotyped counties
Lazy or no research
Lost control of emotions
Late to this but +1
There is a lad on Twitter that shares old RTÉ shows and the odd Sunday Game clip pops up and Pat has been spouting the same shite for 20-odd years.
I never found him entertaining or clever and I can't honestly can't think of one lightbulb moment when he was saying what will happen. I'm from Kildare and we have no scoring forwards...we never have...even though there were times under Geezer when we had a few lads in the top scorers from play in the country. (that's just a pet gripe but shows sheer laziness)
There were no updates on ideas or attitudes and he seems like a sack to be honest. As I said the Mayo v Galway game summed him up...
Started off with Forest Gump box of chocolates...
Then went to Goldie Locks for Galway when they are good, etc
At half time got loads of names wrong and didn't analyse anything
A team can go from world beaters to absolute bums in the space of a half...
A big clear-out is needed!
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
About time. I'd say he was offered the chance to leave. I don't think I have anything good to say about his punditry.
Characteristics that come to mind :
Dated
Biased
Stole a living
Used irrelevant stats
Poor knowledge of weaker counties
Stereotyped counties
Lazy or no research
Lost control of emotions
Then got €32k covid payment. Did other pundits get?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pundit-pat-spillane-received-32-000-in-covid-support-nbdntlq7p
Pat sought controversy and was a likeable and contrary character. Never can forget that he tried to stain Tyrone football with buzz words but that was how he drew the crowds. More a fan than an analyst is what I would describe him as. But like every auld bollix ye will miss him off the screen, and If he gets the regular GAA slot on GB news sure it would be a great match.. ;)
Spillane was a Sunday World sort of analyst. There wasn't a lot of content but there was always plenty of noise. And he was a Kerry chauvinist who found the 6 in a row extremely hard to swallow, especially when his Kerry team lost the title of greatest team of all time. Ochon is ochon o.
Good riddance to the dinosaur. That's him and Brolly both away, pious sycophant O'Rourke next please followed by the brain-dead and Sam-less Whelan who should never be near any panel given his outright thuggery in a Dublin jersey. Vanity-project sit on the fence Cavanagh can do one too.
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2022, 11:27:23 AM
Spillane was a Sunday World sort of analyst. There wasn't a lot of content but there was always plenty of noise. And he was a Kerry chauvinist who found the 6 in a row extremely hard to swallow, especially when his Kerry team lost the title of greatest team of all time. Ochon is ochon o.
+1
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2022, 11:27:23 AM
Spillane was a Sunday World sort of analyst. There wasn't a lot of content but there was always plenty of noise. And he was a Kerry chauvinist who found the 6 in a row extremely hard to swallow, especially when his Kerry team lost the title of greatest team of all time. Ochon is ochon o.
If any of the best Ulster teams from the 1950s onwards only had to beat Cork to get to an AISF they could easily have done 4 in a row as well. Pat's Kerry team were good but they only had to play 3 matches against actual football teams to win Sam in any year.
Did anyone here honestly like Spillane? Like I mean you turn on the telly and go Oh great this is going to be good. Himself is on...
There will be a lot of revisionism but he always came across as a sack to me.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 17, 2022, 01:14:49 PM
Did anyone here honestly like Spillane? Like I mean you turn on the telly and go Oh great this is going to be good. Himself is on...
There will be a lot of revisionism but he always came across as a sack to me.
He's not really liked or taken seriously in his own county. He put his name forward for the Kerry under 21 job in 2015. There wasn't a notion of him being even considered by the Kerry County Board.
There are people with passing interest in football that looked forward to the Spillane Punch and Judy show. The
''What will he say today'' brigade.
Can pat take des with him. So many cringe moments in tonight's Sunday game. Not just des in fairness. Joanne wasn't great interviewing in the hotel either. Poor stuff.
I think The Sunday game in Gaelic Football for too long encouraged a dumbing down of our football knowledge. The average man at the game new more than the analysts and so now it is paying a heavy penalty for taking its audience too lightly. A tired often patronising offering by RTE for a dumbed down audience which unfortunately had to be watched because the audience is there.
What if we just vote for our favourite songs aft half time and they play them instead of punditry.
I'd vote for D:Ream Things Can Only Get Better if losing and Europe The Final Countdown if drawing. Would need to think more if winning. Maybe Every Loser Wins by Nick Berry.
Quote from: OrchardOrange on July 16, 2022, 05:12:00 PM
Good riddance to the dinosaur. That's him and Brolly both away, pious sycophant O'Rourke next please followed by the brain-dead and Sam-less Whelan who should never be near any panel given his outright thuggery in a Dublin jersey. Vanity-project sit on the fence Cavanagh can do one too.
+1
Quote from: OrchardOrange on July 16, 2022, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2022, 11:27:23 AM
Spillane was a Sunday World sort of analyst. There wasn't a lot of content but there was always plenty of noise. And he was a Kerry chauvinist who found the 6 in a row extremely hard to swallow, especially when his Kerry team lost the title of greatest team of all time. Ochon is ochon o.
If any of the best Ulster teams from the 1950s onwards only had to beat Cork to get to an AISF they could easily have done 4 in a row as well. Pat's Kerry team were good but they only had to play 3 matches against actual football teams to win Sam in any year.
I've heard a lot about how the Kerry team of the 70s wouldn't have won as many All- Irelands if they had to come out of Ulster but these were some of Kerry's results in the semis:
76: Beat Derry 5-14 to 1-10
79: Beat Monaghan 5-14 to 0-7
82: Beat Armagh 3-15 to 1-12
And this was against the best team in Ulster. Do you think the games against the lesser teams in Ulster would be any different?
If Kerry had an extra couple of games v the likes of Longford or Fermanagh would having played 5 games really be much more of an achievement than playing 3 games where the 3 games were against the 3 best teams?
Also, I believe it was only 1 year that Kerry played 3 games, but you'd swear it was every year of the 70s and 80s the way that people go on about it.
I hear McStay is the "expert" on commentary Sunday.
Must visit some house with SKY.
Quote from: blanketattack on July 20, 2022, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on July 16, 2022, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2022, 11:27:23 AM
Spillane was a Sunday World sort of analyst. There wasn't a lot of content but there was always plenty of noise. And he was a Kerry chauvinist who found the 6 in a row extremely hard to swallow, especially when his Kerry team lost the title of greatest team of all time. Ochon is ochon o.
If any of the best Ulster teams from the 1950s onwards only had to beat Cork to get to an AISF they could easily have done 4 in a row as well. Pat's Kerry team were good but they only had to play 3 matches against actual football teams to win Sam in any year.
I've heard a lot about how the Kerry team of the 70s wouldn't have won as many All- Irelands if they had to come out of Ulster but these were some of Kerry's results in the semis:
76: Beat Derry 5-14 to 1-10
79: Beat Monaghan 5-14 to 0-7
82: Beat Armagh 3-15 to 1-12
And this was against the best team in Ulster. Do you think the games against the lesser teams in Ulster would be any different?
If Kerry had an extra couple of games v the likes of Longford or Fermanagh would having played 5 games really be much more of an achievement than playing 3 games where the 3 games were against the 3 best teams?
Also, I believe it was only 1 year that Kerry played 3 games, but you'd swear it was every year of the 70s and 80s the way that people go on about it.
I doubt playing a few extra games against Ulster teams would have done them much harm. Likewise it would have done Ulster teams a world of good too.
There was a lack of exposure for Ulster football back then and it shouldn't be understated what a big deal it was to get out of your province and have your big day in Croker in front of the cameras. It really was alien territory and the cut throat nature of Ulster football meant you didn't become too accustomed to it. I think when BBC started their championship programme it helped teams be less daunted by the "glitz" when heading down South.
Yes Kerry were still the superior team in those semi-finals but how much was the margin of victory a result of the gulf in class or stage fright for the interloper.
Ulster teams didnt expect to win, often there was stagefright, they were watching Kerry and Dublin carve up the all irelands on TV. It was a party going on and there was only ever an occasional chance to join.
It's coming...Pat's fond farewell.
https://www.google.com/search?q=pat+spillane&sxsrf=ALiCzsZ9nguOtLiIl1hQgogx6pLZwOdcFw:1658574601991&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2uvDv7475AhWMUMAKHZ3_DB4Q_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=601&dpr=1.5
Like his best rants and so on. The puke football comment was from 2003. That's nearly 20 years ago since he was really controversial or relevant.
Nearly all his quotes were pre-rehearsed like the Forest Gump this year and nearly all of the ones quoted will be him saying FOOTBALL IS SHITE in one form or another.
Maybe I'm in the minority but he did not add to my viewing pleasure and was too fuckin lazy to actually give any insight to the games so he dealt in big sweeping statements, a stat and 'funny' soundbites.
I would agree with that. He was useless. Great player but doesn't make a great pundit. It's like people think he's some form of national treasure. Should have been out long ago and shouldn't have been on his terms.
I wonder will it be all about him on Sunday?
Is he in the studio for the game or in TSG studio later that night?
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 23, 2022, 12:19:13 PM
It's coming...Pat's fond farewell.
https://www.google.com/search?q=pat+spillane&sxsrf=ALiCzsZ9nguOtLiIl1hQgogx6pLZwOdcFw:1658574601991&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2uvDv7475AhWMUMAKHZ3_DB4Q_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=601&dpr=1.5
Like his best rants and so on. The puke football comment was from 2003. That's nearly 20 years ago since he was really controversial or relevant.
Nearly all his quotes were pre-rehearsed like the Forest Gump this year and nearly all of the ones quoted will be him saying FOOTBALL IS SHITE in one form or another.
Maybe I'm in the minority but he did not add to my viewing pleasure and was too fuckin lazy to actually give any insight to the games so he dealt in big sweeping statements, a stat and 'funny' soundbites.
+1.
For real analysis try Sky or copy the Tailteann Cup crew.
Spillane appealed to both the older and the less educated constituencies of TSG's audience. His calculated ignorance and showboating were well received in certain homes . TSG is an uncomfortable coalition of older, thinking, less educated, younger, conservative, progressive, occupied territories, football and hurling. No one is ever happy.
I would agree no one is ever happy but leaving him there for 30 years...like having the same lad shitin on all that time is bad.
Quote from: seafoid on July 23, 2022, 07:46:56 PM
Spillane appealed to both the older and the less educated constituencies of TSG's audience. His calculated ignorance and showboating were well received in certain homes . TSG is an uncomfortable coalition of older, thinking, less educated, younger, conservative, progressive, occupied territories, football and hurling. No one is ever happy.
There are people with passing interest in football that looked forward to the Spillane Punch and Judy show. The ''
What will he say today'' brigade.
Pat before the game. Tom O'Sullivan will mark Shane Walsh out of the game. At half time, I don't know why Tom O'Sullivan is still marking Walsh.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 24, 2022, 04:21:34 PM
Pat before the game. Tom O'Sullivan will mark Shane Walsh out of the game. At half time, I don't know why Tom O'Sullivan is still marking Walsh.
;D
Bet all yous boys slaggin Pat feel bad now 😉😃
Some amount of football snobs on here!
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 24, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Bet all yous boys slaggin Pat feel bad now 😉😃
Pat stole a healthy living for 30 years. 5 minutes of a sad and joyful personal family story changes nothing in relation to that.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 24, 2022, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 24, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Bet all yous boys slaggin Pat feel bad now 😉😃
Pat stole a healthy living for 30 years. 5 minutes of a sad and joyful personal family story changes nothing in relation to that.
His antics over lockdown too leave a lot to be desired.
The story was wonderful and I am not a cold-hearted hoor, but that doesn't mean he will be massively missed.
Sean Cavanagh was trying to be funny beside him and he just isn't, so away with him too.
Rory Gallagher popped up on the evening show, so I'd like to see more managers and coaches coming on.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2022, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 24, 2022, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 24, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Bet all yous boys slaggin Pat feel bad now 😉😃
Pat stole a healthy living for 30 years. 5 minutes of a sad and joyful personal family story changes nothing in relation to that.
His antics over lockdown too leave a lot to be desired.
What antics?
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
Quote from: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
Something to do with his father dying in the aftermath of a Galway and Kerry All Ireland final
Quote from: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
His father died after a Kerry Galway game.
Look how many medals my family have.
Now my nephews have a medal too.
Look how many medals my family have.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 25, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
His father died after a Kerry Galway game.
Look how many medals my family have.
Now my nephews have a medal too.
Look how many medals my family have.
It was Pat being Pat, putting on a performance for the gallery. Perhaps he was emotional but he didn't need to do it on live TV.
Them previous 2 posters have hearts of stone i tell thee 😉
Theres clips of it all oer the twitterland, that joe page the sunday game page etc
f**king hell lads, we don't have to be cynical about everything.
I thought it was a nice, personal story. I'd be proud as f**k if my nephews won All Ireland medals, and no one who had lost a parent before their time would not be able to relate to a little sentimentality over how proud his father, a man he stated ignored serious medical symptoms to fulfill his county selector duties, would have been to see his sons and, now, grandsons, bring AI medals into the house.
Must pundits have a shelf life. After a while they've said all they're going to say. Then they're mostly reheating the same arguments again.
In Pat's case we got the gist soon enough. Teams weren't 'kick-pessing' enough. Forwards weren't practicing shooting enough because coaches were corrupting them with negative tactics.
Quote from: J70 on July 25, 2022, 01:50:16 PM
f**king hell lads, we don't have to be cynical about everything.
I thought it was a nice, personal story. I'd be proud as f**k if my nephews won All Ireland medals, and no one who had lost a parent before their time would not be able to relate to a little sentimentality over how proud his father, a man he stated ignored serious medical symptoms to fulfill his county selector duties, would have been to see his sons and, now, grandsons, bring AI medals into the house.
Agreed.
I thought Pat was a terrible pundit and let his Kerry bias get too much in the way of any attempt at objectivity. The story about his Dad was moving though and given that he was referencing the first grandchildren to win Celtic Crosses, and indeed it was the end of an era for Pat himself, I think he should be forgiven that personal moment.
His own career though was a long time ago now, and has become a distant memory for many, so it is also worth remembering the absolutely wonderful footballer that he was. In my own mind, I cannot separate Jacko or him as to the greatest I have ever seen.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 25, 2022, 02:24:16 PM
Must pundits have a shelf life. After a while they've said all they're going to say. Then they're mostly reheating the same arguments again.
In Pat's case we got the gist soon enough. Teams weren't 'kick-pessing' enough. Forwards weren't practicing shooting enough because coaches were corrupting them with negative tactics.
Bit like lads writing colums for the weekly newspaper - lads at it for a long time. Gets stale after a while.
Key is to get out while the time's right. Like Paddy Heaney with the Irish News. A fantastic writer/story teller and combination of both but knew when to move on.
Some lads in the GL move on and freshen it up with new writers but others say on too long.
Quote from: J70 on July 25, 2022, 01:50:16 PM
f**king hell lads, we don't have to be cynical about everything.
I thought it was a nice, personal story. I'd be proud as f**k if my nephews won All Ireland medals, and no one who had lost a parent before their time would not be able to relate to a little sentimentality over how proud his father, a man he stated ignored serious medical symptoms to fulfill his county selector duties, would have been to see his sons and, now, grandsons, bring AI medals into the house.
Thought it was a lovely way to finish.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 25, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
The story was wonderful and I am not a cold-hearted hoor, but that doesn't mean he will be massively missed.
Sean Cavanagh was trying to be funny beside him and he just isn't, so away with him too.
Rory Gallagher popped up on the evening show, so I'd like to see more managers and coaches coming on.
Was he spitting on his hands
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 25, 2022, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 25, 2022, 01:50:16 PM
f**king hell lads, we don't have to be cynical about everything.
I thought it was a nice, personal story. I'd be proud as f**k if my nephews won All Ireland medals, and no one who had lost a parent before their time would not be able to relate to a little sentimentality over how proud his father, a man he stated ignored serious medical symptoms to fulfill his county selector duties, would have been to see his sons and, now, grandsons, bring AI medals into the house.
Agreed.
I thought Pat was a terrible pundit and let his Kerry bias get too much in the way of any attempt at objectivity. The story about his Dad was moving though and given that he was referencing the first grandchildren to win Celtic Crosses, and indeed it was the end of an era for Pat himself, I think he should be forgiven that personal moment.
His own career though was a long time ago now, and has become a distant memory for many, so it is also worth remembering the absolutely wonderful footballer that he was. In my own mind, I cannot separate Jacko or him as to the greatest I have ever seen.
A wonderful player but a media mediocrity
A friend of mine from Clonoe was touring round Kerry and went into Pat's pub in Templenoe about 15 years ago. Pat was behind the bar and when he found out he was from Clonoe he asked him if he knew Kevin McCabe. Pat then said that 'Kevin was the best .............{long pause} looking footballer he ever played against'.
Quote from: Gael85 on July 25, 2022, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2022, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 24, 2022, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 24, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Bet all yous boys slaggin Pat feel bad now 😉😃
Pat stole a healthy living for 30 years. 5 minutes of a sad and joyful personal family story changes nothing in relation to that.
His antics over lockdown too leave a lot to be desired.
What antics?
He claimed over 30 thousand in loss of media earnings despite being on a healthy pension.
Quote from: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
His father had a pain the day before the 1964 Galway v Kerry Final. His father died on the following Tuesday. He didn't get to see his sons winning 19 celtic crosses. Every time Galway play Kerry in the final he remembers 1964.
It would make a great song.
His tribute to his father was completely genuine in my opinion and I'd never heard it before. It was for the day that was in it. A few people on here just being cynical for the sake of it. Boring.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 03:30:15 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on July 25, 2022, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2022, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 24, 2022, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 24, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Bet all yous boys slaggin Pat feel bad now 😉😃
Pat stole a healthy living for 30 years. 5 minutes of a sad and joyful personal family story changes nothing in relation to that.
His antics over lockdown too leave a lot to be desired.
What antics?
He claimed over 30 thousand in loss of media earnings despite being on a healthy pension.
He was playing by the rules ... his media business was adversely impacted ... government had a relief scheme, so he used it ... as did half the country from what I can tell.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 12:13:13 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 25, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
His father died after a Kerry Galway game.
Look how many medals my family have.
Now my nephews have a medal too.
Look how many medals my family have.
It was Pat being Pat, putting on a performance for the gallery. Perhaps he was emotional but he didn't need to do it on live TV.
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 25, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I was watching on sky where there was proper analysis but I'm curious as to what Pats emotional story was?
His father died after a Kerry Galway game.
Look how many medals my family have.
Now my nephews have a medal too.
Look how many medals my family have.
Harsh enough lads?
No time for Pat's gobshitery but IMO it was a nice personal memory and he got a bit emotional when sharing
Which was very understandable given the personal significance of the occasion (on many fronts)
Any chance his daughter Cara could replace him on Sunday Game? More pleasing on the eye and will likely talk less shite .
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Quote from: Sportacus on July 25, 2022, 04:30:16 PM
His tribute to his father was completely genuine in my opinion and I'd never heard it before. It was for the day that was in it. A few people on here just being cynical for the sake of it. Boring.
+1
+2
Spillane, O'Rourkes and Brollys legacies on TSG can only be properly judged after next year's championship.
At present one thing is fairly certain, the entertainment/controversy value will be completely diminished.
With all the RTE payment controversy Spillange got out at the right time. Some check to claim the money when probably worse pundit before he was let go.
https://twitter.com/luighseach/status/1533468008282214401?lang=fi
Remember when RTE tried to turn him into Gary Lineker and present TSG. What a f**king w**ker. And this reminds us of the shitheads running RTE.
Quote from: trailer on July 06, 2023, 03:24:44 PM
Remember when RTE tried to turn him into Gary Lineker and present TSG. What a f**king w**ker. And this reminds us of the shitheads running RTE.
Yeah prompting Anthony Tohill to talk down Tyrone.
Quote from: sensethetone on July 06, 2023, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 06, 2023, 03:24:44 PM
Remember when RTE tried to turn him into Gary Lineker and present TSG. What a f**king w**ker. And this reminds us of the shitheads running RTE.
Yeah prompting Anthony Tohill to talk down Tyrone.
Did he? From memory he stood up for Ulster football? Maybe im wrong
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/pat-spillane-id-rather-listen-to-a-dinosaur-than-the-spoofers-and-bluffers-ruining-gaelic-football/a1225784524.html?fbclid=IwAR1bst7Ad0DTLVo4YKQqBew-aZ6Pkl-MvwI2sS6sZX_miv4FrsFj4q8hpNg
Quote from: BuzzCagney on July 29, 2023, 09:03:02 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/pat-spillane-id-rather-listen-to-a-dinosaur-than-the-spoofers-and-bluffers-ruining-gaelic-football/a1225784524.html?fbclid=IwAR1bst7Ad0DTLVo4YKQqBew-aZ6Pkl-MvwI2sS6sZX_miv4FrsFj4q8hpNg
Paywall
How does one listen to a dinosaur?
Thank god that is behind a paywall. Squeaky bum time for Pat and his record 8 All Irelands Record!
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 29, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
Thank god that is behind a paywall. Squeaky bum time for Pat and his record 8 All Irelands Record!
And in Pat's time they only had to win three games and peak for a month.
Pat's articles are very popular for those who pay the tenner a month.
He was dissing Kerry earlier this year but Jack O'Connor has timed the whole thing right.
And managing Clifford * 2 since beating Stewartstown in January has been admirable.
That Off the ball with mcmahon was hard enuf work. Joe doesn't have too much love for Derry by the sounds of it, dressing it up as earnest criticism but sounds bitter, wasn't very nice about Glass and especially McGuigan.
Very few in Derry have much time for Brolly.
Was fortunate to be in the 93 team of a dozen or so leaders.
When it was his time to lead in his later 20's he was hiding.
Quote from: North Man on July 29, 2023, 11:53:59 PM
Very few in Derry have much time for Brolly.
Was fortunate to be in the 93 team of a dozen or so leaders.
When it was his time to lead in his later 20's he was hiding.
Your first sentence is true. Your second is accurate and your third hits the nail on the head - never won a 50-50 ball in his life.
Quote from: bennydorano on July 29, 2023, 11:41:02 PM
That Off the ball with mcmahon was hard enuf work. Joe doesn't have too much love for Derry by the sounds of it, dressing it up as earnest criticism but sounds bitter, wasn't very nice about Glass and especially McGuigan.
What did McMahon say?
Quote from: BuzzCagney on July 30, 2023, 02:13:55 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 29, 2023, 11:41:02 PM
That Off the ball with mcmahon was hard enuf work. Joe doesn't have too much love for Derry by the sounds of it, dressing it up as earnest criticism but sounds bitter, wasn't very nice about Glass and especially McGuigan.
What did McMahon say?
Nothing really, he didn't want to be the centre of attention unlike the guests
I have seen a few of the Derry ones giving out about what Brolly said about Glass and McGuigan. What did he say?
"We disrespected him by putting our weakest man marker on him and not sweeping in front of him. Of course only human beings can be marked and David Clifford is not one of those, but Dublin will do a better, smarter job."
Brolly's article today.
Clown.
Quote from: restorepride on July 29, 2023, 09:28:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 29, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
Thank god that is behind a paywall. Squeaky bum time for Pat and his record 8 All Irelands Record!
And in Pat's time they only had to win three games and peak for a month.
"Only"
How many games did the Dubs actually need to focus on this year?
Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2023, 11:01:09 AM
Quote from: restorepride on July 29, 2023, 09:28:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 29, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
Thank god that is behind a paywall. Squeaky bum time for Pat and his record 8 All Irelands Record!
And in Pat's time they only had to win three games and peak for a month.
"Only"
How many games did the Dubs actually need to focus on this year?
Kildare in the Leinster Championship - who they only beat by 2 points
Ros in the Round Robin.
Derry in the Semi-final.
They won the Leinster final by 21 Points.
Their last round-robin game by 24 points.
Their quarter final by 12 points.
Quote from: theticklemister on July 30, 2023, 09:28:52 AM
"We disrespected him by putting our weakest man marker on him and not sweeping in front of him. Of course only human beings can be marked and David Clifford is not one of those, but Dublin will do a better, smarter job."
Brolly's article today.
Clown.
Typical Brolly - can't analyse without insulting an All Star.
Quote from: theticklemister on July 30, 2023, 09:28:52 AM
"We disrespected him by putting our weakest man marker on him and not sweeping in front of him. Of course only human beings can be marked and David Clifford is not one of those, but Dublin will do a better, smarter job."
Brolly's article today.
Clown.
He may be, but he's on the money re Clifford and the Dubs' approach I'd say.
Basically he said McGuigan wouldn't get near the Dublin team and is too one footed and has no pace. Thought his criticism of Glass was very over the top. Seemed personal.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 30, 2023, 01:50:12 PM
Basically he said McGuigan wouldn't get near the Dublin team and is too one footed and has no pace. Thought his criticism of Glass was very over the top. Seemed personal.
Ah right, unnecessary.
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 30, 2023, 01:50:12 PM
Basically he said McGuigan wouldn't get near the Dublin team and is too one footed and has no pace. Thought his criticism of Glass was very over the top. Seemed personal.
McGuigan would start for every team in the country.
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
They'll be second in total all Irelands in about 10-15 years too
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 30, 2023, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
They'll be second in total all Irelands in about 10-15 years too
After Tyrone?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
Some achievement.
I wonder will they stay and go for the 10 next year?
Quote from: marty34 on July 30, 2023, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
Some achievement.
I wonder will they stay and go for the 10 next year?
It'll all depend on the push. Dublin have started a new Dynasty of AI medal winners today. There will be a trickle of the old lads they will have to let go of to progress on from todays success.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 30, 2023, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
Some achievement.
I wonder will they stay and go for the 10 next year?
It'll all depend on the push. Dublin have started a new Dynasty of AI medal winners today. There will be a trickle of the old lads they will have to let go of to progress on from todays success.
True but the magic 10 is a big incentive.
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 30, 2023, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 30, 2023, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
They'll be second in total all Irelands in about 10-15 years too
After Tyrone?
Cutting satire from the 'One Sams' :D
;D
Quote from: red hander on July 30, 2023, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 30, 2023, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 30, 2023, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
They'll be second in total all Irelands in about 10-15 years too
After Tyrone?
Cutting satire from the 'One Sams' :D
Quote from: marty34 on July 30, 2023, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 30, 2023, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
And just like that McCarthy, Fitzgibbon and Cluxton are on 9 AI Medals and the Kerry legends get demoted to second place.......
Some achievement.
I wonder will they stay and go for the 10 next year?
It'll all depend on the push. Dublin have started a new Dynasty of AI medal winners today. There will be a trickle of the old lads they will have to let go of to progress on from todays success.
True but the magic 10 is a big incentive.
9 was a bigger incentive as it meant moving to top of the pile.
McGinley the only analyst on All Ireland SG worth listening too. Cora & Lee Keggan outstanding players, but impossible to listen to. Cavanagh what a tool. Flynn & Thomas not easy to listen to either.
Quote from: Rudi on July 30, 2023, 10:02:18 PM
McGinley the only analyst on All Ireland SG worth listening too. Cora & Lee Keggan outstanding players, but impossible to listen to. Cavanagh what a tool. Flynn & Thomas not easy to listen to either.
Not a dig at the presence of women but she's just no good. There is bound to be better. Sean must be visiting the same hairdresser as Marty and Des.
Seen this...........
https://twitter.com/hill16_trueblue/status/1685442236941586433 (https://twitter.com/hill16_trueblue/status/1685442236941586433)
and thought of this ...........
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