Any ideas?
I was looking at airplanes going over my head today and thinking that people 50 years ago would think youre mad If you said about airplanes. What will be invented in the next 30 years that we cannot imagine right now? A bit like mobile phones to people in the 90s.
Quote from: Olly on April 23, 2022, 09:05:45 PM
Any ideas?
I was looking at airplanes going over my head today and thinking that people 50 years ago would think youre mad If you said about airplanes. What will be invented in the next 30 years that we cannot imagine right now? A bit like mobile phones to people in the 90s.
You do realise that 50 years ago is 1972 and commercial flights started in 1914
We all know that's bullshit.
Termite burgers
hover crafts using the earths magnetic field
Nappies for Cows
VR going to become big over the next decade. Sky/BT will be selling pitchside subscriptions for premier league games. Every house will have a few headsets.
Charles H Duell of the US patent office famously said in 1899 that "everything that can be invented has been invented".
When you think of everything that has followed since its incredible.
Quote from: Mourne Red on April 23, 2022, 09:21:05 PM
Quote from: Olly on April 23, 2022, 09:05:45 PM
Any ideas?
I was looking at airplanes going over my head today and thinking that people 50 years ago would think youre mad If you said about airplanes. What will be invented in the next 30 years that we cannot imagine right now? A bit like mobile phones to people in the 90s.
You do realise that 50 years ago is 1972 and commercial flights started in 1914
Airplanes not the only thing goin oer peoples heads snarf snarf
Often think of this too. You see some mid 90 footage of Bill Gates demonstrating what the Internet is and people laughing at him as if he is just a nerd with a fad, yet look how that has turned out. We always think we have the best tech, smallest size possible etc, but things evolve. A way I think of it at times is when I look at a ruler, and regard every CM as a century. When you look at how short a period that electronics has been around, it really is still in its infancy.
Measurin his willy
Dont get no bigger. Trust me on this
Brilliant thread, aeroplanes in 1972 ???
Seriously
All Ireland winning Antrim County Footballers ::)
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 23, 2022, 11:01:31 PM
VR going to become big over the next decade. Sky/BT will be selling pitchside subscriptions for premier league games. Every house will have a few headsets.
Porn will be a huge driver of this tech.
Quote from: trailer on April 25, 2022, 12:44:23 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 23, 2022, 11:01:31 PM
VR going to become big over the next decade. Sky/BT will be selling pitchside subscriptions for premier league games. Every house will have a few headsets.
Porn will be a huge driver of this tech.
Think it's been out/worked on for a while in that industry.
I read that. Somewhere. ;)
Short term there will be much more data driven technology, especially around the home. This is already happening to an extent but there will be much less need to manually press buttons. Loads of automation.
IoT technology, almost everything will be connected to the cloud. Won't have to enter details for insurance as they'll already know how safe you drive or your home is etc.
Longer term possibly nanobots, where we won't have to use smartphones etc. as we can access virtual reality with our brains.
Quote from: oakleaflad on April 25, 2022, 01:24:48 PM
Short term there will be much more data driven technology, especially around the home. This is already happening to an extent but there will be much less need to manually press buttons. Loads of automation.
IoT technology, almost everything will be connected to the cloud. Won't have to enter details for insurance as they'll already know how safe you drive or your home is etc.
Longer term possibly nanobots, where we won't have to use smartphones etc. as we can access virtual reality with our brains.
VR gets relaunched every 4-5 years, with all manner of publicity and possibility attached.
But it's never mainstreamed and I sincerely doubt it ever will. And the reason for this is that the vast majority of humans do not like losing full control of their senses. It's just too unsettling to inhabit two spheres at once. Not even pornoland is a viable industry for this tech. Men who want to pleasure themselves in the real world will not be drawn to channelling that elevation from a different world. It just too confusing, nauseating, uneven.
Hence connecting to VR with our brains just won't happen. The technology to do this will appear. The interest levels to generate an industry will not.
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on April 25, 2022, 01:24:48 PM
Short term there will be much more data driven technology, especially around the home. This is already happening to an extent but there will be much less need to manually press buttons. Loads of automation.
IoT technology, almost everything will be connected to the cloud. Won't have to enter details for insurance as they'll already know how safe you drive or your home is etc.
Longer term possibly nanobots, where we won't have to use smartphones etc. as we can access virtual reality with our brains.
VR gets relaunched every 4-5 years, with all manner of publicity and possibility attached.
But it's never mainstreamed and I sincerely doubt it ever will. And the reason for this is that the vast majority of humans do not like losing full control of their senses. It's just too unsettling to inhabit two spheres at once. Not even pornoland is a viable industry for this tech. Men who want to pleasure themselves in the real world will not be drawn to channelling that elevation from a different world. It just too confusing, nauseating, uneven.
Hence connecting to VR with our brains just won't happen. The technology to do this will appear. The interest levels to generate an industry will not.
Correct. Facebook can launch whatever metaverse they want. People aren't going to give up hours of their day to enter an avatar and goof around.
Even the augmented reality which is more reality based isimited in scope. Please take off your Internet glasses, this is a business meetimg.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 25, 2022, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on April 25, 2022, 01:24:48 PM
Short term there will be much more data driven technology, especially around the home. This is already happening to an extent but there will be much less need to manually press buttons. Loads of automation.
IoT technology, almost everything will be connected to the cloud. Won't have to enter details for insurance as they'll already know how safe you drive or your home is etc.
Longer term possibly nanobots, where we won't have to use smartphones etc. as we can access virtual reality with our brains.
VR gets relaunched every 4-5 years, with all manner of publicity and possibility attached.
But it's never mainstreamed and I sincerely doubt it ever will. And the reason for this is that the vast majority of humans do not like losing full control of their senses. It's just too unsettling to inhabit two spheres at once. Not even pornoland is a viable industry for this tech. Men who want to pleasure themselves in the real world will not be drawn to channelling that elevation from a different world. It just too confusing, nauseating, uneven.
Hence connecting to VR with our brains just won't happen. The technology to do this will appear. The interest levels to generate an industry will not.
Correct. Facebook can launch whatever metaverse they want. People aren't going to give up hours of their day to enter an avatar and goof around.
Even the augmented reality which is more reality based isimited in scope. Please take off your Internet glasses, this is a business meetimg.
Is that not what computer games are? I hear they've become pretty popular.
NFTs though lads I hope ye're all on that gravy train!!!
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
I just want a car and a road system that is fully computer controlled that'll take me safely from the a to b pub without crashing
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
VR will be huge, especially with sport. It's the next leap. Sitting in your living room watching the Superbowl or WC final from the best seat in the stadium. Once the hardware is refined it will take off. One of us will be proved right and the other wrong. Time will tell.
Quote from: trailer on April 25, 2022, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
VR will be huge, especially with sport. It's the next leap. Sitting in your living room watching the Superbowl or WC final from the best seat in the stadium. Once the hardware is refined it will take off. One of us will be proved right and the other wrong. Time will tell.
Quote from: trailer on April 25, 2022, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
VR will be huge, especially with sport. It's the next leap. Sitting in your living room watching the Superbowl or WC final from the best seat in the stadium. Once the hardware is refined it will take off. One of us will be proved right and the other wrong. Time will tell.
Again I think this is a case of not really understanding how the human brain works.
The reason why so many people feel nauseous when they use VR has nothing to do with technology, and everything to do with how unsettling it is to have one or two of your senses detach themselves from the rest of the senses. Your mind cannot help getting confused and concerned.
Technology cannot solve this problem unless it can find a way to migrate all the senses to virtual land. Which won't happen.
Although you may want to believe that a 360 degree matchday stadium experience would be more fun than watching a game in 2d on your TV, in reality it will disappoint nearly everyone. VR will never be able to replicate the sense of smell, the sense of touch that are so important to days like this. It'll never be able to replicate the sense of anticipation and awe that comes from travelling to / meeting up with and attending / watching that match with friends. Tech will try to find ways to fill these gaps. But it won't be able to.
Apps have completely changed everything, they have made life easier for things that we required more effort for in the past but technology has ruined social interaction or at least lessen them.
What other Apps haven't been designed yet that are floating around in your head?
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 25, 2022, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
VR will be huge, especially with sport. It's the next leap. Sitting in your living room watching the Superbowl or WC final from the best seat in the stadium. Once the hardware is refined it will take off. One of us will be proved right and the other wrong. Time will tell.
Quote from: trailer on April 25, 2022, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
VR will be huge, especially with sport. It's the next leap. Sitting in your living room watching the Superbowl or WC final from the best seat in the stadium. Once the hardware is refined it will take off. One of us will be proved right and the other wrong. Time will tell.
Again I think this is a case of not really understanding how the human brain works.
The reason why so many people feel nauseous when they use VR has nothing to do with technology, and everything to do with how unsettling it is to have one or two of your senses detach themselves from the rest of the senses. Your mind cannot help getting confused and concerned.
Technology cannot solve this problem unless it can find a way to migrate all the senses to virtual land. Which won't happen.
Although you may want to believe that a 360 degree matchday stadium experience would be more fun than watching a game in 2d on your TV, in reality it will disappoint nearly everyone. VR will never be able to replicate the sense of smell, the sense of touch that are so important to days like this. It'll never be able to replicate the sense of anticipation and awe that comes from travelling to / meeting up with and attending / watching that match with friends. Tech will try to find ways to fill these gaps. But it won't be able to.
I don't see it as a replacement to the matchday experience. Totally agree with you there. But as a viewing experience I see it as the next big thing. Maybe I'm wrong but I think people will adopt it. I can houses having 3 or 4 headsets to watch sport and concerts. Live events essentially. Not Eastenders.
Space elevators. The hold-up is a material that's strong and light enough to support it. Graphene, or similar nanotech materials, will be what enables it. It'll need graphene to be produced inexpensively, currently the stuff costs about $200,000/tonne to produce. It'll transform access to space, slashing the cost in the way the space shuttle was supposed to but didn't. Going up to space won't be the preserve of billionaires anymore. Rockets are inherently expensive and dangerous, but a space elevator would be a game changer that opens up all sorts of possibilities. Satellite launches for a pittance, tourism, convenient access to the moon, etc.
I'm kind of intrigued by the business case there Eamon.
I know the world is an eclectic space - but I can't believe there's a queue of people in an hurry to float around space in a small box.
Would it not be fair to say that rockets are inherently expensive, mainly because there isn't much demand for the outcome they would deliver, especially not a repeat demand ?
Yeah, it's one of those chicken-and-egg situations, I suppose, Wobbler. Aeroplanes used to be expensive to produce because there wasn't a whole lot of demand for them, but the industry picked up a head of steam when they got more affordable so they ended up being mass produced rather than custom built. If you asked someone a hundred and ten years ago how much demand there was for air travel, they'd have said there wasn't much since only the rich could afford it. It would have been very hard to conceive of jet travel in those days or why it's better than piston-engined planes, to say nothing of a world in which it was affordable to ordinary people. How many peasants and coal miners would want to fly to Spain for a holiday? The market for mass air travel just didn't exist yet because there was no enabling technology for it.
Automated inventing machines.
An Armagh kick-out strategy.
I think in the near term the advances will be in products we already have and Seamless connections
such as working examples of ATM's
Vending machines that work and always have what you want
Telephone AI that actually is useful
all Machines being redesigned to fit into the now world like self filling washing machines and Dishwashers that don't take hours to run
A way to turn a man into a woman
Pants that totally dissolve your shite as soon as it leaves you. You could be standing at a match or at the theatre, let one go and no one the wiser and you can drink champagne the whole way through it trying not to go red faced but what does it matter if you do.
Quote from: Olly on April 26, 2022, 05:48:11 PM
Pants that totally dissolve your shite as soon as it leaves you. You could be standing at a match or at the theatre, let one go and no one the wiser and you can drink champagne the whole way through it trying not to go red faced but what does it matter if you do.
Drink that'll give you all the fun of being drunk without the hangover
Smart Deoderant TM - The Deoderant that changes depending on the women that you may be interested in courting. Something that might be more attractive to the women say in the Elk, might well differ from what you would need on a night out in BT9. Smart Deoderant TMworks hard to attract the women in the place that you find yourself in... and it wont let you down..
Idea 1 - Elon Musk - the smell of success..
Quote from: rosnarun on April 26, 2022, 11:01:02 AM
I think in the near term the advances will be in products we already have and Seamless connections
such as working examples of ATM's
Vending machines that work and always have what you want
Telephone AI that actually is useful
all Machines being redesigned to fit into the now world like self filling washing machines and Dishwashers that don't take hours to run
They probably have smart machines like that in Japan already. I hear you can buy all sorts of stuff there from vending machines
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 25, 2022, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on April 25, 2022, 01:24:48 PM
Short term there will be much more data driven technology, especially around the home. This is already happening to an extent but there will be much less need to manually press buttons. Loads of automation.
IoT technology, almost everything will be connected to the cloud. Won't have to enter details for insurance as they'll already know how safe you drive or your home is etc.
Longer term possibly nanobots, where we won't have to use smartphones etc. as we can access virtual reality with our brains.
VR gets relaunched every 4-5 years, with all manner of publicity and possibility attached.
But it's never mainstreamed and I sincerely doubt it ever will. And the reason for this is that the vast majority of humans do not like losing full control of their senses. It's just too unsettling to inhabit two spheres at once. Not even pornoland is a viable industry for this tech. Men who want to pleasure themselves in the real world will not be drawn to channelling that elevation from a different world. It just too confusing, nauseating, uneven.
Hence connecting to VR with our brains just won't happen. The technology to do this will appear. The interest levels to generate an industry will not.
Correct. Facebook can launch whatever metaverse they want. People aren't going to give up hours of their day to enter an avatar and goof around.
Even the augmented reality which is more reality based isimited in scope. Please take off your Internet glasses, this is a business meetimg.
Minecraft
Fortnite
You could argue that the kids already do!
We're probably not far away from seeing a seven blade razor.
Robotic/Automatic Real Time Moderation of discussion fora.
Elon will sort you out.
A fair football championship
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 25, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
The entry point to VR too expensive and the headsets too cumbersome. Once the hardware catches up it will become mainstream.
It really won't.
Why Google Glass didn't take off is straightforward. Two simple reasons:
1. apart from a small group of fashionistas, nobody in history has chosen to wear spectacles when they didn't have to. The concept behind Glass confused something that is an inconvenience as being convenient.
2. Glass required you to redirect one of your primary senses away from doing something useful, towards doing something that was usually trivial.
VR only works if it takes control of that same primary sense.
Most of us will always refuse to allow this to happen.
You keep getting VR and AR mixed up.
Glass didn't work as a consumer product because the hardware was intrusive and privacy concerns. The enterprise version is still sold and large number of companies have built productivity solutions around it. HoloLens is similar, it's not really ready for mainstream consumers but plenty of use cases in industry where it is being trialled. Architecture and industrial interior design are one of the main proponents of AR.
Your argument about Glass taking away a primary sense is incorrect. It's no worse than a Head up Display on a car, the brain adjusts to look past the augmented information and it's just there. AR glasses/headsets are only one implementation of AR but there is already large number of AR applications available, and Apple has invested a large amount of time in their ARKit SDK to help people build more.
This was getting some bad publicity the other day on tv
A metaverse is a network of 3D virtual worlds focused on social connection. In futurism and science fiction, it is often described as a hypothetical iteration of the Internet as a single, universal virtual world that is facilitated by the use of virtual and augmented reality headsets
Basically perverts were using it to interact with children in these chat rooms...
On the visual side of things it looked like the Doom blocky type set up of old, though this was just from the images and video that the reporter was using
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2022, 11:44:34 AM
A way to turn a man into a woman
JK Rowling would agree.
Drone bidets.
A drone that can spray water on your arse after you do a poop.
I think one thing we should be wary about from history is definitively dismissing or backing any particular tech. Self driving vehicle would be highest on my wish list.
Already invented is cordless vacuum cleaners with headlights. I have to say they're the dog's bollix.