Was it just me or was the App acting up today during the Down/Rossies game.It just stopped a couple of times and went to Ads,as well as stalling a few times
Same issue during the down game.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2022, 08:19:52 PM
Same issue during the down game.
working perfect in the USA 👌
Crashed completely (Ireland and US) at the start of the Dub/Tipp hurling match. Came back after a few minutes and was fine thereafter, but it's a very poor service overall. No alternative unfortunately.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 26, 2022, 11:20:45 PM
Crashed completely (Ireland and US) at the start of the Dub/Tipp hurling match. Came back after a few minutes and was fine thereafter, but it's a very poor service overall. No alternative unfortunately.
Yes and they cant even get play back right. Tried to watch back the Down v Ros game on catch up and it is missing parts at the start of the game. So went to bbc i player using vpn and playback was perfect. Shows just how shit it is when they cant even get playback right. It really is such a poor service and but no alternative >:(.
If only a vpn worked for rte player
Quote from: Soju on February 27, 2022, 08:53:57 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 26, 2022, 11:20:45 PM
Crashed completely (Ireland and US) at the start of the Dub/Tipp hurling match. Came back after a few minutes and was fine thereafter, but it's a very poor service overall. No alternative unfortunately.
Yes and they cant even get play back right. Tried to watch back the Down v Ros game on catch up and it is missing parts at the start of the game. So went to bbc i player using vpn and playback was perfect. Shows just how shit it is when they cant even get playback right. It really is such a poor service and but no alternative >:(.
If only a vpn worked for rte player
I use a free version of Hola to watch RTE player. I only see Donegal v Tyrone on the menu, no sign of Down v Ros.
Agreed on GAAGo, it's truly pathetic.
Down v Ros worked fine in Australia. Couldn't get past 5 mins into the catch up on Tipp v Dublin before it froze.
Every catch up starts with 20-30 minutes of dead time - is no one capable of cutting that out?
If you watch on your laptop you can click on the blue progress line and drag it manually as far into it as you want to start watching.
Though for $130 annually, or whatever it is exactly now, you shouldn't have to.
I cast it off the phone to the TV and can skip it via the Chromecast remote - it's just having to do it and find the point where the game actually starts.
Seems like there's a lot of creaming off the subscription fees and not much reinvestment into the app.
Quote from: Soju on February 27, 2022, 08:53:57 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 26, 2022, 11:20:45 PM
Crashed completely (Ireland and US) at the start of the Dub/Tipp hurling match. Came back after a few minutes and was fine thereafter, but it's a very poor service overall. No alternative unfortunately.
Yes and they cant even get play back right. Tried to watch back the Down v Ros game on catch up and it is missing parts at the start of the game. So went to bbc i player using vpn and playback was perfect. Shows just how shit it is when they cant even get playback right. It really is such a poor service and but no alternative >:(.
If only a vpn worked for rte player
This was their response when I complained about above issue.
It took them a second e-mail to come up with this.
"To elaborate on what I meant by, "As the issue occurred live it would also be on our on-demand upload," the RTÉ studios encountered a connection issue which caused a freeze across the board on all of our streams going out at that time, including the Down V Roscommon game. This effected our coverage of the game, not BBC's, their coverage was going through their system. You will note our coverage of the game has our branding on it and BBC's has theirs. The issue did not occur on site (where the game was being recorded) but at our studios in Donnybrook, where we were pushing the streams out from. As such, BBC's on-demand version does not include the freeze frame that features on ours as they did not encounter the issue. I do apologise for the loss of coverage we experienced at the start of that stream, missing any coverage is unacceptable. I assure you our engineers have investigated into the issue, we have identified what caused the problem and put measures in place to ensure it does not happen again."
It still doesnt make any sense to me that the on demand video has the missing parts. And were they not using the bbc video in the first place as the bbc iplayer version is the exact same as the gaago video.
I also got on to them about having to move the scroll bar to get to start of game and this is what they responded with
"To reiterate, in regards to your question about scrubbing through advertisements on on-demand uploads, there are two versions of the on-demand upload of our game. One that goes up immediately after the live broadcast has ended which includes advertisements and an edited version (no ads to scrub through) that goes up within 12 hours of the live broadcast ending. If you are watching the unedited version, simply scroll right back to the start of the scrub bar to watch the stream from the start, Live coverage begins 15 minutes into the stream (there are 15 mins of ads pre-game). "
As I said it took me giving out alot to get these responses
Any time I have contacted them about issues they send on spoof usually off the point. No wonder the service hasnt improved in years.
Going by anecdotal accounts, the broadcast standard of the LOI TV games is much superior, including the play back technology.
Watching a game live is a hard 70 minutes these days much better watch on catch up later, was watching a game a few weeks ago that was level going into extra time and the team in possession of the ball wouldn't shoot at the goals and they had the ball for 5 minutes maybe the ref finally just blew the whistle and put everyone out of their misery , brutal stuff
Gaago is one of the most frustrating services I have ever paid for.
From the issues listed here - hours of dead time (not even ads, just the Gaago screensaver), impossible to scrub through on phone, Monday night League Sunday wouldnt come up on my app - spent an age refreshing, uninstalling and reinstalling the app. I eventually had to sign in on the web browser on my phone and cast that to the tv.
By far the most frustrating is the customer service. Every time you contact them, they try and buy time asking what version of web browser, app, chromecast etc even when it's not related to the question. It's like they are hoping you will give up.
If there was any other viable option I would be all over it
Perhaps there needs to be GAA fans association to represent people on such things as streaming, season tickets etc.
Customers need to get out of the auto rebuy, then maybe they would improve things
Quote from: armaghniac on March 01, 2022, 11:43:42 PM
Perhaps there needs to be GAA fans association to represent people on such things as streaming, season tickets etc.
It's not a bad idea. The sheer contempt being shown by the GAA rulers to patrons and supporters is sad.
The ticketing situation now is just ridiculous, they're ticketing app or lack of, is awful and convoluted. The cashless and whole situation is terrible for older people or people not tech savvy.
As for the streaming, TV coverage and lack of coverage overall not too mention the lack of marketing and online highlights or presence. GAA badly needs a shake up at the top and sell the sport better.
Quote from: Gmac on March 02, 2022, 12:05:18 AM
Customers need to get out of the auto rebuy, then maybe they would improve things
what's the alternative - just not watch for a year?
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 02, 2022, 12:57:32 AM
Quote from: Gmac on March 02, 2022, 12:05:18 AM
Customers need to get out of the auto rebuy, then maybe they would improve things
what's the alternative - just not watch for a year?
stop bitching about it we get hundreds of games and Sunday game every Sunday for $140 a year , you wouldn't get a night out for double it .
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 02, 2022, 12:57:32 AM
Quote from: Gmac on March 02, 2022, 12:05:18 AM
Customers need to get out of the auto rebuy, then maybe they would improve things
what's the alternative - just not watch for a year?
Buy a IPTV from a supplier in Ireland most have the GAAGO live games on them now.
Quote from: Gmac on March 02, 2022, 01:39:16 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 02, 2022, 12:57:32 AM
Quote from: Gmac on March 02, 2022, 12:05:18 AM
Customers need to get out of the auto rebuy, then maybe they would improve things
what's the alternative - just not watch for a year?
stop bitching about it we get hundreds of games and Sunday game every Sunday for $140 a year , you wouldn't get a night out for double it .
Not the point! You can watch netflix for about 100 a year and ive never had any play back issues if thats what ur saying. For me price is not the issue here its the fact its unreliable, frustrating to use and should have a bigger selection of games.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 01, 2022, 11:09:53 PM
Gaago is one of the most frustrating services I have ever paid for.
From the issues listed here - hours of dead time (not even ads, just the Gaago screensaver), impossible to scrub through on phone, Monday night League Sunday wouldnt come up on my app - spent an age refreshing, uninstalling and reinstalling the app. I eventually had to sign in on the web browser on my phone and cast that to the tv.
By far the most frustrating is the customer service. Every time you contact them, they try and buy time asking what version of web browser, app, chromecast etc even when it's not related to the question. It's like they are hoping you will give up.
If there was any other viable option I would be all over it
And it's the same damn screensaver with the same years old faded messages from the diaspora.
Whoever is in charge of that service needs a good kick up the backside, has absolutely no notion of the required standards for a pricey sports subscription service which by this stage should be competently streaming at least all Div 1 and Div 2 games.
Given GAAGo is a joint GAA and RTE creation, is it any wonder that there are technical issues?
If I had to quess I would say that GAAGo is likely to share a lot [if not everything] under the hood with the RTE player, which is a byword for a technical disaster in Ireland.
I would bet dollars to donuts that those in charge are either current or former RTE employees.
If you were a bit cynical you might think that it wouldn't bother RTE a bit if GAAGo wasn't a huge success given it's effectively an RTE competitor.
The GAA really should be doing much much better in terms of broadcasting/streaming games.
The LGFA by comparison have over 100 games available to stream this year for €50.
For those of us overseas, GAAGO is a godsend - the price is good and in fairness most of the transmissions are good, yes there is the odd hiccup now and again but overall I have to say I am pleased with the service. Agree with you all on the half time filler stuff, I don't care that the Flanagans are watching in Singapore or the Reillys have tuned in from Alice Springs....
For me at least, here in NY, most of the transmissions are not good. It's rare that I see a game that doesn't involve buffering or an outright crash. None of the other live streaming services I use have any such issues.
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 03, 2022, 07:54:24 PM
For those of us overseas, GAAGO is a godsend - the price is good and in fairness most of the transmissions are good, yes there is the odd hiccup now and again but overall I have to say I am pleased with the service. Agree with you all on the half time filler stuff, I don't care that the Flanagans are watching in Singapore or the Reillys have tuned in from Alice Springs....
Agree wholeheartedly, and just to be clear - the issue is not with the filler at half time when watching live - it's the fact that
- they can't / don't cut this out when uploading the game for catchup
- the app doesn't allow fast forward, bookmark, reverse, any other actions. When watching sport on any other streaming service it is good to be able to go forward / back to re-view things. With Gaago you have to use the scrubber, which is hard to get it even to within 5 mins
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 04, 2022, 02:01:28 AM
For me at least, here in NY, most of the transmissions are not good. It's rare that I see a game that doesn't involve buffering or an outright crash. None of the other live streaming services I use have any such issues.
I am also in NYC, I was thinking of subscribing this year. I did the 14 day free trial but was not impressed. There were the major problems with the Armagh/Tyrone game that were discussed here but even the games that I watched that didn't have major problems were still mediocre. The screen resolution is noticeably poor and although it is "good enough" when there are no problems it still looks worse than any other live streaming sports service I use (ESPN+, Peacock, Paramount+)
In these broadcasts if they are going to put the pundits on the pitch then they need to stop the crowd crowding in behind them and drowning out what they are saying. The hurling tonight is ridiculous.
Perfect stream today for Dublin/Kilkenny, worse luck.
Anyone use a vpn they'd recommend to watch Rte/TG4?
I'm ready to abandon gaago at this point.
Just paid for the Armagh Kerry game. Hoping for an acceptable stream.
So far watching the warm ups. Noticing jitter every few seconds and one "This stream has now ended" message that lasted a few seconds.
Quote from: dec on March 20, 2022, 02:05:42 PM
So far watching the warm ups. Noticing jitter every few seconds and one "This stream has now ended" message that lasted a few seconds.
Same here, seems like an error with gaago
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 13, 2022, 05:25:17 PM
Anyone use a vpn they'd recommend to watch Rte/TG4?
I'm ready to abandon gaago at this point.
Surfshark is good... Unlimited connections
I got armagh v kerry now. Was there a 15 minute delay to throw in maybe?
Quote from: CK_Redhand on March 20, 2022, 02:16:22 PM
I got armagh v kerry now. Was there a 15 minute delay to throw in maybe?
There was a delay. Large crowd
Quote from: Solo_run on March 20, 2022, 02:11:11 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 13, 2022, 05:25:17 PM
Anyone use a vpn they'd recommend to watch Rte/TG4?
I'm ready to abandon gaago at this point.
Surfshark is good... Unlimited connections
Cheers, surf. Will give it a go.
I've bought the Armagh game and at least so far during the pregame the stream seems better than previous times. Hopefully I haven't jinxed myself
Is it just me or is Gaago the worst app for streaming games, especially if you want to catch up.I don't think I want to reorder for next year
Hi all. I have the GB pass but I'm in Spain on holidays. Don't seem to be able to purchase the hurling final as a one off. BBC iPlayer is blocked abroad it seems. Any suggestions?
Just buy the hurling without logging in or use a different email?
A bar?
Anyone have any idea if they will be showing anything after the football final, i Signed up for the annual pass as it would work out cheaper than buying each game individually.
Quote from: dec on July 21, 2023, 09:39:48 PM
Anyone have any idea if they will be showing anything after the football final, i Signed up for the annual pass as it would work out cheaper than buying each game individually.
No, I don't think they are showing anything else.
It is a bit odd in one way, they could show Ladies games, county finals etc, the feed for these is readily available and it would bulk out the annual content at little cost.
I thought they usually showed the latter stages of the club championships?
I'll bet a whack of money, say an hours pay for Ryan Tubridy, that later in the season there will games on TG4 where TG4 dies not have the right to show the game abroad, but GAAgo will not bother covering it. The GAA never seems to learn to stop annoying people.
I think GAA go will have to go...
Has anyone been able to download the GAAGO app on an LG TV?
I've been unable to, and had to cast it to the TV from a mobile, whilst on another (Android) TV I can use the app directly.
TIA
Quote from: Lorcs on July 26, 2023, 12:10:44 AM
Has anyone been able to download the GAAGO app on an LG TV?
I've been unable to, and had to cast it to the TV from a mobile, whilst on another (Android) TV I can use the app directly.
TIA
I was able to just use the browser on an LG TV (2019)
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Browser for me via the Firestick (Silk)
2024 GAAGO Match Schedule
April 6th
CSFC Quarter final: London v Galway
April 7th
CSFC Quarter final: New York v Mayo
April 13th
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April 14th
LSFC Quarter Final: Kildare v Westmeath / Wicklow
April 20th
MSFC Semi-final: Kerry v Cork / Limerick
April 21st
MSHC RR1: Waterford v Cork
April 27th
LSHC RR2: Antrim v Wexford
USFC Semi Final (Fermanagh / Armagh v Down / Antrim)
April 28th
MSHC RR2: Cork v Clare
LSFC Semi Final: Kildare / Westmeath / Wicklow v Louth / Carlow / Wexford
LSFC Semi Final: Dublin / Longford / Meath v Off / Laois
May 4th
MSHC RR3: Waterford v Tipperary
LSHC RR3: Wexford v Galway
May 5th
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May 11th
MSHC RR3: Cork v Limerick
LSHC RR3: Carlow v Kilkenny
Tailteann Cup Rd 1 game
May 12th
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May 18th
Round Robin SFC Rd 1 x 2 games
Tailteann Cup Rd 2 game
LSHC RR4: Dublin v Kilkenny
May 19th
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May 25th
Round Robin SFC1 x 2 games
May 26th
LSHC RR5: TBC v TBC
June 1st
Round Robin SFC Rd2 x 2 games
Tailteann Cup Rd 3 game
June 2nd
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June 8th
Tailteann Cup Preliminary Quarter Finals x 2 games
June 9th
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June 15th
Round Robin SFC Rd 3 x 2 games
Tailteann Cup Quarter Finals x 2 games
June 16th
Round Robin SFC Rd 3 x 1 game
June 22nd/23rd
AISFC Preliminary Quarter Finals x 4 games
June 29th
AISFC Quarter finals x 2 games
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/12/04/news/gaago_chief_noel_quinn_we_are_at_war_with_dodgy_boxes_-3824279/
Quote from: clarshack on December 04, 2023, 08:11:48 PMhttps://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/12/04/news/gaago_chief_noel_quinn_we_are_at_war_with_dodgy_boxes_-3824279/
"Ireland has the highest consumption or purchase rate of dodgy boxes a year apparently"
7 people in the publicity shot.
Wha you reckon the spread would be for how many of them has a Dodgybox? 4?
Quote from: thewobbler on December 04, 2023, 08:43:43 PM7 people in the publicity shot.
Wha you reckon the spread would be for how many of them has a Dodgybox? 4?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all seven.
I'm surprised that the CCPC anti-competitve thing isn't more of an issue.
I would have thought that the EU would have issues with it.
Like you have a state broadcaster that gets significant onging funds direct from the government and a sports organisation that gets significant ongoing state funding who have set up a 50/50 business together that puts a fair chunk of the games behind a paywall.
Also it would be interesting to know what would happen if another broadcaster took a case - Virgin already came out and said they were not even approached about bidding for the rights for these games.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 04, 2023, 08:43:43 PM7 people in the publicity shot.
Wha you reckon the spread would be for how many of them has a Dodgybox? 4?
Our county hurling manager was calling out people for using a firestick to watch GAAGO during the summer. Taking money out of the GAA's pocket or something like that. I probably will get a season ticket this year if I can get the app on the TV, mostly because the streams didn't work right during the summer, but that sort of nonsense does my head in.
I pay family membership in 2 clubs (football and hurling are separate clubs), have a county draw ticket for each club, lotto in both, countless draws and fundraisers through both and I'm the problem if I watch a couple of games on the firestick. Tackle the amount of money going to coaches/managers/s&c/fraudsters doing the clubs out of 1000s every year
Jesus Donal Og is an awful yap. How does he get so much airtime? Complains & complains some more
Quote from: clonian on December 05, 2023, 09:02:17 AMQuote from: thewobbler on December 04, 2023, 08:43:43 PM7 people in the publicity shot.
Wha you reckon the spread would be for how many of them has a Dodgybox? 4?
Our county hurling manager was calling out people for using a firestick to watch GAAGO during the summer. Taking money out of the GAA's pocket or something like that. I probably will get a season ticket this year if I can get the app on the TV, mostly because the streams didn't work right during the summer, but that sort of nonsense does my head in.
I pay family membership in 2 clubs (football and hurling are separate clubs), have a county draw ticket for each club, lotto in both, countless draws and fundraisers through both and I'm the problem if I watch a couple of games on the firestick. Tackle the amount of money going to coaches/managers/s&c/fraudsters doing the clubs out of 1000s every year
I hope GAAGO collapses into a financial black hole. Is it any wonder dodgy sticks are on the rise- the whole world of entertainment and sports have repackaged programmes that were essentially already available and are gouging the world. How many subscriptions are knocking about these days and new ones appearing all the time.
Disagree completely Bennydorano.
We now have heavily bloated senior championships being played out in a much shorter window.
Any expectation that these competitions could each be shown in full on free-to-air TV, is based on delusion.
Whereas it might just work as a PPV streaming service. Not everything, but most games could be streamed without a crazy cost. Why you would want such a service to fall into private sector hands, I don't know.
dodgy boxes gives more exposure to your sport a lot of people just wouldnt bother watching at all if had to pay.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 05, 2023, 12:34:10 PMDisagree completely Bennydorano.
We now have heavily bloated senior championships being played out in a much shorter window.
Any expectation that these competitions could each be shown in full on free-to-air TV, is based on delusion.
Whereas it might just work as a PPV streaming service. Not everything, but most games could be streamed without a crazy cost. Why you would want such a service to fall into private sector hands, I don't know.
IMO Sky offered a perfectly acceptable service, along with the terrestrial additions suited me perfectly. I don't need or want to watch 10 middling games per weekend. I'll travel or pay to watch my own but the rest....meh. That initial GAAGO schedule is fairly terrible as well.
I've made this related point numerous times before as well- The organisation speaks with a forked tongue, the aren't we great amateur organisation who preach about values & volunteerism are the first to stick the arm in and for some reason are also at the forefront of driving a cashless organisation (a side point but one I passionately disagree with). I also think GAAGO is another marker on the road to professionalism.
All arguable points, but there you go.
FWIW Benny I'd no gripes with Sky. When combined with its prevalence in the pub industry, and the Now TV day passes, it pretty much covered off the "90 year old rural dweller" argument that people love to trot out.
And I'd argue all day that GAAGO got its technical roadmap inside out. Its focus in year one should have been on developing Apps for Android, Firestick, Samsung and LG so that the vast majority of consumers could plug and play on their TV. Instead they spent their time and efforts in contorting the registration process, and ensuring single sign on. Hence, nobody happens across GAAGO by accident and nobody ever will.
But at the same time. The only plausible solution for showing every game of regional interest, and some games of localised interest, is a streaming service. And I'd much prefer this service was controlled by the GAA (which likes making a profit where it can) than a third party organisation (which has to make a profit).
Quote from: Eire90 on December 05, 2023, 12:36:35 PMdodgy boxes gives more exposure to your sport a lot of people just wouldnt bother watching at all if had to pay.
To what benefit?
I've not had Sky in 20 years now.
No interest in most of its output or monthly bills.
So paying €70ish for GAAGo is fine by me.
€69 for a full season pass seems like alright value
My first few experiences of GAAGo were that I had to play it on my phone & cast to the TV - something that was beyond the reach of elderly relatives
I only discovered late last season that there was a native app on the Roku stick (used for streaming Mass) this makes it much easier to use
The introduction of a midweek show makes it more attractive, depending on quality - assume this won't be available to people who just buy a few games?
The likes of a "Breaking Ball" style show which used to be on RTÉ years ago, plus a mid week Sunday game catchup type show would be good
Can you watch back games on it, or live only?
Oh I did not know it was available on a roku stick...
Yeah last year you could watch back any games on it.
Are the preseason games on GAAGO?
Is it available to purchase for the 2024 season yet?
It's advertising it then when I click the link it says I have already paid which I haven't.
Quote from: Derryman forever on December 16, 2023, 12:28:28 PMAre the preseason games on GAAGO?
Is it available to purchase for the 2024 season yet?
Ulster did their own pass for McKenna Cup last year.
I think Clubber had a lot of the Leinster competitions.
Quote from: WeeDonns on December 06, 2023, 11:03:17 AM€69 for a full season pass seems like alright value
My first few experiences of GAAGo were that I had to play it on my phone & cast to the TV - something that was beyond the reach of elderly relatives
I only discovered late last season that there was a native app on the Roku stick (used for streaming Mass) this makes it much easier to use
The introduction of a midweek show makes it more attractive, depending on quality - assume this won't be available to people who just buy a few games?
The likes of a "Breaking Ball" style show which used to be on RTÉ years ago, plus a mid week Sunday game catchup type show would be good
Can you watch back games on it, or live only?
All games you can watch back. As someone who loves abroad it's top class. Too much moaning back home. People want everything for free and want their county on rte...
Quote from: LeoMc on December 05, 2023, 08:26:34 PMQuote from: Eire90 on December 05, 2023, 12:36:35 PMdodgy boxes gives more exposure to your sport a lot of people just wouldnt bother watching at all if had to pay.
To what benefit?
The GAA states its purpose to be:
Our purpose is to promote Gaelic games, culture and lifelong participation as a community-based, volunteer-led organisation which enriches lives and communities.
One might say that free access to games is fundamental in promoting the organisation as a whole.
In saying that, in the circumstances where our split season means that maximising promotion of games is no longer possible and packages of games don't hold the same appeal to traditional broadcasters, can we at least concentrate on providing a decent medium to allow these to be watched on a TV without major hoops to be navigated?
Tried to renew so I could get the early bird price. Says I have already paid, which I didn't do. But looking at t&c it looks like it might auto renew at the full price. Not much of a loyalty incentive there. I may be interpreting this wrong but time will tell
I got the same.
There is an option to cancel Auto-Renew in the 'Manage Subscriptions' page.
Mine is showing Early Bird Pass for 2024, assuming as I had it last year.
I have the "annual flex pass GB" (I'm in the 6 counties" but none of the archive stuff seems to be available, or documentaries. Seems to be an add on ?
Clubber is such a rip off. €12 for an O'Byrne Cup game is way too much.
My GAAGO GB pass renewed in May last year. Presumably will do the same this year?
Quote from: thejuice on January 06, 2024, 09:42:12 PMClubber is such a rip off. €12 for an O'Byrne Cup game is way too much.
My GAAGO GB pass renewed in May last year. Presumably will do the same this year?
You can go into the settings and turn off the autorenew, or delete the card number!
Now the best time to get annual subscription with the league starting although alot of the games are on tg4?12 euro a game would imagine would want to stream at least 8 games over the year so will probably be worth it long term.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/gaa-did-a-better-job-of-promoting-rugby-tom-dempsey-thinks-hurling-is-being-driven-into-the-ground-by-gaago/a823614588.html (https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/gaa-did-a-better-job-of-promoting-rugby-tom-dempsey-thinks-hurling-is-being-driven-into-the-ground-by-gaago/a823614588.html)
Can't believe this argument is still being made. There have never been more games free to air than now yet somehow it isn't enough.
Also, how did the GAA promote rugby? If memory serves me there was no press nights in some hurling counties in recent years...the rugby lads have a Captain's Run with all media there and people chatting.
HURLING MEN are very sensitive.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 07, 2024, 12:11:06 PMAlso, how did the GAA promote rugby? If memory serves me there was no press nights in some hurling counties in recent years...the rugby lads have a Captain's Run with all media there and people chatting.
HURLING MEN are very sensitive.
"Hurling needs help and we're not getting it. It's just not being promoted. The diamond in our sporting crown that's unique to us and we're not promoting it."
🤢🤢🤢
The only real marketing drive undertaken by county teams (unless fundraising for their holidays) takes place after matches when youngsters can storm the pitch and meet the players. And the use of the term "drive" is wrong, it's an entirely organic thing that admin/mgt cannot control. But look how successful it.
And the GAA won't thrive in terms of marketing until the stars of the show are made more accessible to the public. A good start to that would be to somehow breakdown or dismiss the current (and longstanding) ruse that a player who revels in the spotlight is condemned as being too big for his boots unless he delivers 10/10 every week. This is why Clifford is such a rarity. Nobody can misconstrue his performance levels.
Hurling I think would benefit tremendously from personalised helmets. But traditionalists and management teams would likely be aghast at the thought of someone within the ranks having an individual personality.
Hurling and football would each benefit hugely if lads didn't have to be 10 years retired to enjoy a Laochra Gael profile. Why can this (or an equivalent) show not focus on current players? I think we know why. Anyone taking time to do that instead of train would be seen as too big for their boots.
Hurling and football would both benefit from a 15 min morning magazine "skills" show each championship weekend, that runs through top 5 scores, top 5 catches, top 5 hits, top 5 team moves, top 5 saves, top 5 bloopers, and so on. But it would be better again if a handful of players involved vox popped the action. And GAA Go would benefit hugely if they ran this as the filler before coverage started.
Small ideas in the grand scheme of things.
But ultimately I'd expect reluctance here comes from within the camps, rather than from the marketing people in GAA land.
Exactly, let lads fill their boots a bit too and get a few quid for interviews and appearances.
If children don't see you on a screen these days you may forget it. They also love a stat. My nephew is Liverpool fan and reeled off the career of Xavi Alonso when he was in the mix to take over...he couldn't tell you a thing on most GAA players...
GAAGo is now a good product, but they should have more snappy bits and cut-downs for socials and a youth-focused show.
Taoiseach, Tánaiste and a Senator Lombard in full flow on the anti GAAgo campaign.
Must be an election soon?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 10, 2024, 06:35:01 PMTaoiseach, Tánaiste and a Senator Lombard in full flow on the anti GAAgo campaign.
Must be an election soon?
How many games were they at in the last year?
Donal Óg is on the case again. If only he had a slot on Radio 1 every week and a column on RTÉ...
He gives one line to the Christy Ring and then the majority of the piece is giving out about hurling not getting promoted and being on GAAGo...
I bet he couldn't name a London hurler without Google!
The one issue I'd have is that RTÉ are 50% and that is licence fee, and these days state funded. The GAA also gets state funding, so we are paying twice.
Sky didn't get licence fee or any help and their product was top notch.
I think Cork People have every right to be upset. They are the most populous hurling county and yet 3 of their munster hurling matches are behind a pay wall. Something stinks about that, the Gaa know that these 3 games alone will generate huge income. Do the Gaa or RTE produce viewing figures for Gaago?
Was on the way back from a game yesterday and had RTE radio 1 on, the section before the start of the Ulster final they wanted to talk about the hurling the night before and how great the game was, John Mullane though had other ideas and got tore into RTE, which is his current employer on the radio, lets face it his isnt suited for TV ;) (just a joke John btw, mine isnt great either)
He put his argument across very well and Des and Marie were a bit flustered, John also pointed out that there was very little coming from the players and other pundits. You can argue that its unknown that a game will turn out like it did the other night but with only so many able to watch it or go, it left a lot of people missing out on it.
Surely its time for a red button on the screen that allows you to shift to any game that is being broadcasted by RTE anyways, for the likes of the Munster championship they will fill their grounds for most games, so it won't have a pull on numbers at the game.
If you get a chance, listening to John's commentary, its brilliant, serious passion
Politicians and jumping on bandwagon in public....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41394022.html
Quote from: Rossfan on May 13, 2024, 11:51:45 AMPoliticians and jumping on bandwagon in public....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41394022.html
That is an absolutely outstanding interview by Burns, cutting through the waffle.
He can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 13, 2024, 12:10:11 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 13, 2024, 11:51:45 AMPoliticians and jumping on bandwagon in public....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41394022.html
That is an absolutely outstanding interview by Burns, cutting through the waffle.
This line from Jarlath Burns sums up the like of Simon Harris getting involved:
QuoteYou would almost think there was an election coming up."
I was delighted to see that there is now an gaago lg app for lg tvs, however it just supports newer models. The authentication process via the phone was fantastic. However i was really disappointed to see that it requires re authentication every x days, this is disaster for usability.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
Quote from: didlyi on May 11, 2024, 10:37:55 AMI think Cork People have every right to be upset. They are the most populous hurling county and yet 3 of their munster hurling matches are behind a pay wall. Something stinks about that, the Gaa know that these 3 games alone will generate huge income. Do the Gaa or RTE produce viewing figures for Gaago?
And two of those games were in Cork itself....
Well they can all watch the Tipp game on the television this weekend.
Disgrace I tell you.
If you are a Cork supporter and you could not make it to Pairc Ui Chaoimh, you still had the option of watching every championship game live. In either code.
There's counties in Ireland that get neither. Small counties like Sligo and Leitrim. Did they have any championship game on air or GAAGo yet? But not only do the big counties get all the resources, and enjoy all the advantages of population size, not to mention politicians directing money their way - they are also the biggest moaners too. Cork are a county of privilege and because they are spoiled little brats can't even recognise it.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 01:08:05 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
Yeah but when you have rights etc involved then the games are scheduled way in advance. Did you know 2 months ago that this match was going to have riding on it what was riding on it?
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 01:29:50 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 01:08:05 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
Yeah but when you have rights etc involved then the games are scheduled way in advance. Did you know 2 months ago that this match was going to have riding on it what was riding on it?
On a weekend with 2 football finals, the obvious thing was for RTÉ to cover one hurling game on the Saturday and decide closer to the date which one they would cover.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 01:29:50 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 01:08:05 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
Yeah but when you have rights etc involved then the games are scheduled way in advance. Did you know 2 months ago that this match was going to have riding on it what was riding on it?
The last few years of the Munster Championship have been the best about, nearly every game in that championship has something riding on it, also doesn't take much to figure out that these games would generate plenty of interest, the sceptic in me thinks that other games would not fill their grounds if they had the game on free TV so rather not worry about games that are stadium fillers and go for others that might have an impact of revenue at the gate.
Obviously provincial finals will need to be shown btw regardless of their capacity grounds
Quote from: armaghniac on May 13, 2024, 01:58:02 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 01:29:50 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 01:08:05 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
Yeah but when you have rights etc involved then the games are scheduled way in advance. Did you know 2 months ago that this match was going to have riding on it what was riding on it?
On a weekend with 2 football finals, the obvious thing was for RTÉ to cover one hurling game on the Saturday and decide closer to the date which one they would cover.
Then the same thing would probably happen another week anyway. Can't really win on this one I don't think.
There is a great deal of shite on discussed on this matter. Some guy was on the radio there, likely a politician, saying that "Sky had been better as most people have Satellite TV", which is completely untrue, while in reality far more people have broadband. He then said that it should be on RTÉ and advertisers would bid for slots, but RTÉ hasn't much money to give to the GAA and there are people who are not paying their TV licence ranting about games not being on TV.
There is a loss of visibility to the GAA in not having this game on TV, and that too has its price, but there has to accurate discussion of the situation, not fantasy. For one thing, RTÉ is supposed to serve everyone and this aim might not be compatible with having 20 hours of GAA each weekend. Virgin Media does nothing, which it would if advertisers really were interested.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 13, 2024, 05:11:10 PMThere is a great deal of shite on discussed on this matter. Some guy was on the radio there, likely a politician, saying that "Sky had been better as most people have Satellite TV", which is completely untrue, while in reality far more people have broadband. He then said that it should be on RTÉ and advertisers would bid for slots, but RTÉ hasn't much money to give to the GAA and there are people who are not paying their TV licence ranting about games not being on TV.
There is a loss of visibility to the GAA in not having this game on TV, and that too has its price, but there has to accurate discussion of the situation, not fantasy. For one thing, RTÉ is supposed to serve everyone and this aim might not be compatible with having 20 hours of GAA each weekend. Virgin Media does nothing, which it would if advertisers really were interested.
They're too busy showing Love island and the Kardashian 's ::)
Quote from: armaghniac on May 13, 2024, 05:11:10 PMThere is a great deal of shite on discussed on this matter. Some guy was on the radio there, likely a politician, saying that "Sky had been better as most people have Satellite TV", which is completely untrue, while in reality far more people have broadband. He then said that it should be on RTÉ and advertisers would bid for slots, but RTÉ hasn't much money to give to the GAA and there are people who are not paying their TV licence ranting about games not being on TV.
There is a loss of visibility to the GAA in not having this game on TV, and that too has its price, but there has to accurate discussion of the situation, not fantasy. For one thing, RTÉ is supposed to serve everyone and this aim might not be compatible with having 20 hours of GAA each weekend. Virgin Media does nothing, which it would if advertisers really were interested.
RTE doesn't have enough channels to show it all. I don't even know about the visibility angle either - outside of GAA GO there were two provincial football finals and two AI U20 football semi finals on.
They can't not show a provincial football final so the hurling likely had to go on account of that and other games being chosen.
I do think we're straying into the unrealistic expectation territory with how many games people think they should have access to. There's too many on and there will be some casualties.
Do many counties have their own streaming service? I know Armagh tv do a good job with club games etc and Down and Tyrone have their own as well I think. Surely it'd be possible to let them show their own counties games if gaa go/rte don't have it.
Could rte not have some sort of red button service to even link these together?
Just seen Jarlaths quote about Simon Harris, you'd think theres an election coming up. Love it!
Sean "I'm an accountant" Cavanagh embarrassing himself again. He's a dose.
Quote from: trileacman on May 13, 2024, 06:54:23 PMSean "I'm an accountant" Cavanagh embarrassing himself again. He's a dose.
He is some asshole.
Imagine if Joanne or whoever said to him really Sean, "How much is two and two"
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 13, 2024, 06:08:40 PMDo many counties have their own streaming service? I know Armagh tv do a good job with club games etc and Down and Tyrone have their own as well I think. Surely it'd be possible to let them show their own counties games if gaa go/rte don't have it.
Could rte not have some sort of red button service to even link these together?
people want/expect to watch all the matches for free on TV, they don't want to pay for gaago, they'd crack up altogether if you add in another streaming service 🤔
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 13, 2024, 08:04:35 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 13, 2024, 06:08:40 PMDo many counties have their own streaming service? I know Armagh tv do a good job with club games etc and Down and Tyrone have their own as well I think. Surely it'd be possible to let them show their own counties games if gaa go/rte don't have it.
Could rte not have some sort of red button service to even link these together?
people want/expect to watch all the matches for free on TV, they don't want to pay for gaago, they'd crack up altogether if you add in another streaming service 🤔
Paying for it for it to crash every so often isn't good value. Loads of times it does thst
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 13, 2024, 06:08:40 PMDo many counties have their own streaming service? I know Armagh tv do a good job with club games etc and Down and Tyrone have their own as well I think. Surely it'd be possible to let them show their own counties games if gaa go/rte don't have it.
Could rte not have some sort of red button service to even link these together?
I thought the issue was old people not being able to work new technology? Or was that a spoof?
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 13, 2024, 09:34:38 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 13, 2024, 06:08:40 PMDo many counties have their own streaming service? I know Armagh tv do a good job with club games etc and Down and Tyrone have their own as well I think. Surely it'd be possible to let them show their own counties games if gaa go/rte don't have it.
Could rte not have some sort of red button service to even link these together?
I thought the issue was old people not being able to work new technology? Or was that a spoof?
Only throwing ideas out, no reason every game couldnt be shown is there?
And a red button service would be easy enough to work if you tune in to rte?
How much would it cost to setup a service like that though? GAAGO far cheaper than sky was to the individual. Sky was 20 quid a month for sports if you didn't have it and you were bound to a contract. It's not that bad at all and then there are the how many games are on tv anyway, how much time does RTÉ dedicate to Gaa every weekend of there's nothing but games on etc.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 01:08:05 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
They need to decide on an ongoing basis which matches to broadcast live instead of fixing everything before the championship starts.
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2024, 10:34:45 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 01:08:05 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 12:15:35 PMHe can hold his own that boy.
Sean Cavanagh ;D Looking to get himself noticed again.
No one is saying that the likes of a streaming service is not a revenue builder, before streaming we still had reasons to generate money, but some matches like Saturday night with everything on the line for Cork at home against the reigning champions needs viewed free
Is Gaago owned by RTE or the GAA?
They need to decide on an ongoing basis which matches to broadcast live instead of fixing everything before the championship starts.
Just put football games on it..
GAA matches have been behind a paywall forever. Even before TV we always had to pay to get in to watch a game live. Why do people expect to get every game beamed into their houses for free but have to pay for the privilege of travelling half the country to watch it live? Maybe we have it arse about face, perhaps we should make it free to get in the ground at all games at every level but put every match on tv behind a paywall.
If the GAA worried about money, they shouldn't done away with Replays, they should spaced out there season better to allow people less expense in short periods of time, the should left the nfl season ticket, with free final included,1st round ticket free, not put games on. with great distance involved not on, in the evenings.
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 13, 2024, 10:37:21 PMGAA matches have been behind a paywall forever. Even before TV we always had to pay to get in to watch a game live. Why do people expect to get every game beamed into their houses for free but have to pay for the privilege of travelling half the country to watch it live? Maybe we have it arse about face, perhaps we should make it free to get in the ground at all games at every level but put every match on tv behind a paywall.
It's about promoting the game too in fairness, so if you can get all the games why not show them off?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 13, 2024, 10:38:17 PMIf the GAA worried about money, they shouldn't done away with Replays, they should spaced out there season better to allow people less expense in short periods of time, the should left the nfl season ticket, with free final included,1st round ticket free, not put games on. with great distance involved not on, in the evenings.
In 2021 congress passed the 'split season' without a vote due to the high volume of support, via the GPA 87% of players were in favour, as a result the Club Players Association disbanded as their objective had been achieved, therefore there was no longer space for replays in the inter county calendar.
There are now extra competitions (eg Tailteann Cup), with extra games (eg the Munster hurling championship in 1998 had 5 games, this year there are 11).
It is not possible that all these games, or even all the good games, or all the games involving the current All Ireland champions in either code can be shown free to air.
Between RTE, BBC, TG4, GAAGO, Clubber (and potentially others) there are now nearly more games available to view than there are hours in the day.
The Cork Limerick thing is just a populist bandwagon, however in all the noise I would agree with Donal Óg (never thought I would say that) in relation to the lesser hurling competitions and there coverage on the 2 main platforms, if the politicians were actually interested in hurling and its growth that's where they would be looking, I don't believe any hurling outside of the Liam McCarthy teams has been shown this year to date, that is a viable argument to get behind imo.
Will they choose Dublin Roscommon over Louth Meath next week? Louth Meath looks like the more attractive fixture.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 13, 2024, 11:51:45 AMPoliticians and jumping on bandwagon in public....
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41394022.html
Same politicians all gone quiet on Dee Forbes. 400k of invoices unaccounted for.
I'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.
Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.
Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
Sure you pay for Sky as well (or you're meant to) and they have ads as well.
I have no issue with ads if its used to reduce subscription costs
Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.
Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
sky sports and tnt sports have adverts and they're a subscription service, it's not a new thing, it's the way of the world of TV/streaming, dont think it's a big issue.
If gaago is doomed to failure as you think, who shows the games they are currently showing? There's 3 games on gaago this evening, there's no way rte commits to that sort of coverage.
I think all this complaining of GAAGO is a Red Herring. What do the public want? A free meal? There will always be a auld Buck with no internet, no credit card or no smart TV. If you are so concerned about them then invite them over and sort them out. There is a cohort who will always complain about access to coverage.
Personally, I think Hurling gets far to much coverage on Terrestrial TV in relation to it's nationwide popularity. The way Sean Og O'Halpin talks it's as if the whole country has been dis-enfranchised by not showing the Munster Hurling Championship.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 18, 2024, 09:35:27 PMI think all this complaining of GAAGO is a Red Herring. What do the public want? A free meal? There will always be a auld Buck with no internet, no credit card or no smart TV. If you are so concerned about them then invite them over and sort them out. There is a cohort who will always complain about access to coverage.
Personally, I think Hurling gets far to much coverage on Terrestrial TV in relation to it's nationwide popularity. The way Sean Og O'Halpin talks it's as if the whole country has been dis-enfranchised by not showing the Munster Hurling Championship.
Well other commitments meant I couldn't be in Salthill today & I was damn glad for Gaa Go's existence!
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 18, 2024, 06:28:04 PMQuote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.
Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
sky sports and tnt sports have adverts and they're a subscription service, it's not a new thing, it's the way of the world of TV/streaming, dont think it's a big issue.
If gaago is doomed to failure as you think, who shows the games they are currently showing? There's 3 games on gaago this evening, there's no way rte commits to that sort of coverage.
Exactly. The games just wouldn't be shown. RTÉ is a national broadcaster not a sports offering and can't just show back to back games or games on several channels at once when it only really has two.
I do think it may potentially fail as it isn't actually that expensive and I do wonder how much they get and how much they make.
If it's here to stay I'd like to see it on the Sky platform. With some of the absolute niche / nonsense channels on there there is no way cost is an insurmountable issue.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2024, 10:02:58 PMIf it's here to stay I'd like to see it on the Sky platform. With some of the absolute niche / nonsense channels on there there is no way cost is an insurmountable issue.
Sky was a different audience, general "sports" fans who might watch. Sky became acceptable enough when they had the 24 hour Now passes, but one way or the other streaming is the way forward.
Moving the games earlier did not help the Sky deal, in another couple of weeks Sky would have less to show and the GAA helped fill that gap.
The Sky 'platform', as in available as a stand alone digital channel, not as part of any Sports package.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2024, 11:32:39 PMThe Sky 'platform', as in available as a stand alone digital channel, not as part of any Sports package.
What is the business model here?
Business model?? Rent a channel, advertise it, people buy it.
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2024, 06:26:16 PMQuote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.
Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
Sure you pay for Sky as well (or you're meant to) and they have ads as well.
I have no issue with ads if its used to reduce subscription costs
Sky is a tv channel offering multiple sports on a high quality viewing platform. Gaago is a dedicated platform for watching a limited number of events on a technically limited basis.
Maybe it was my setup, I was watching using the gaago app and casting to a Chromecast hd, but the quality was a poor substitute for what we've become accustomed to on tv channels.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 18, 2024, 09:54:59 PMQuote from: SHEEDY on May 18, 2024, 06:28:04 PMQuote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.
Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
sky sports and tnt sports have adverts and they're a subscription service, it's not a new thing, it's the way of the world of TV/streaming, dont think it's a big issue.
If gaago is doomed to failure as you think, who shows the games they are currently showing? There's 3 games on gaago this evening, there's no way rte commits to that sort of coverage.
Exactly. The games just wouldn't be shown. RTÉ is a national broadcaster not a sports offering and can't just show back to back games or games on several channels at once when it only really has two.
I do think it may potentially fail as it isn't actually that expensive and I do wonder how much they get and how much they make.
The point was that the package should have been made available to another broadcaster. Sky packages were for upwards of 20 games in addition to whatever rte was showing. They had a far greater potential audience than gaago (not that we want more people to see horror show from salthill this evening) and the quality could potentially be HD ot whatever makes it look good on my tv.
I've no issue with them selling the rights to every other fixture to clubber or some of the other streamers to generated additional revenues, but the current model has taken a large chunk of the best games off our screens onto a finicky platform that's subscription only and can only be accessed by someone who goes looking for it.
Casual viewers are lost, promotional opportunities are lost, the GAA becomes less mainstream, more niche and to top it off, as you suggest, they may even be making less money from the whole exercise.
I've said before on here, I'll be very interested in seeing the financials when they appear, the rte element means we'll probably get more insight into them than the GAA usually provides with its numbers and it should quickly become apparent whether or not this is more financially attractive than the risk free option of simply selling a package to a broadcaster.
Surely gaa go has to be a complete and utter failure.
Yesterday for example there must have been 10 or 11 games been played between hurling and football yet not one was on any channel to view for free , so much for promoting the games.
I had signed up for the season pass, however the quality was so bad for the mayo v New York match , buffering , picture quality ect , I just cancelled it and won't be going back and definitely won't be paying 12 euro to watch a single game.
So yesterday evening instead of watching a hurling or football match my choice on rte was rugby or watch the golf on sky , so golf it was , turned out to be a great choice in the end 😀
Quote from: small white mayoman on May 19, 2024, 08:40:32 AMSurely gaa go has to be a complete and utter failure.
Yesterday for example there must have been 10 or 11 games been played between hurling and football yet not one was on any channel to view for free , so much for promoting the games.
I had signed up for the season pass, however the quality was so bad for the mayo v New York match , buffering , picture quality ect , I just cancelled it and won't be going back and definitely won't be paying 12 euro to watch a single game.
So yesterday evening instead of watching a hurling or football match my choice on rte was rugby or watch the golf on sky , so golf it was , turned out to be a great choice in the end 😀
Is it possible your Internet isn't good enough? I've never had any problems with GAAGo in the few years it's been about. I am abroad this week and was able to watch the Derry game which I could not have done otherwise. Its great.
With regards to the perpetual argument that more games should be on free to air, this has been explained over and over and over. RTE are not a dedicated GAA station, they show general entertainment, news, lifestyle, cooking, documentaries, sports etc. They are already showing 2 full games today from the Munster Hurling championship, as well as highlight packages last night and tonight. You cannot expect them to show GAA morning noon and night all weekend.
No my Internet is perfect as I watched the golf on now tv .
No one is expecting them to show every game on free to air , however would it be too much to expect them to show one game on a Saturday during the championship when possibly 10 games were been played ?
The championship will be as good as over in 8 weeks time so its not that much to expect imo.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 19, 2024, 09:23:43 AMQuote from: small white mayoman on May 19, 2024, 08:40:32 AMSurely gaa go has to be a complete and utter failure.
Yesterday for example there must have been 10 or 11 games been played between hurling and football yet not one was on any channel to view for free , so much for promoting the games.
I had signed up for the season pass, however the quality was so bad for the mayo v New York match , buffering , picture quality ect , I just cancelled it and won't be going back and definitely won't be paying 12 euro to watch a single game.
So yesterday evening instead of watching a hurling or football match my choice on rte was rugby or watch the golf on sky , so golf it was , turned out to be a great choice in the end 😀
Is it possible your Internet isn't good enough? I've never had any problems with GAAGo in the few years it's been about. I am abroad this week and was able to watch the Derry game which I could not have done otherwise. Its great.
With regards to the perpetual argument that more games should be on free to air, this has been explained over and over and over. RTE are not a dedicated GAA station, they show general entertainment, news, lifestyle, cooking, documentaries, sports etc. They are already showing 2 full games today from the Munster Hurling championship, as well as highlight packages last night and tonight. You cannot expect them to show GAA morning noon and night all weekend.
As regards their highlights package, don't get me started on that .
Lads a dodgy fire stick is your friend here
Quote from: small white mayoman on May 19, 2024, 10:34:20 AMNo my Internet is perfect as I watched the golf on now tv .
No one is expecting them to show every game on free to air , however would it be too much to expect them to show one game on a Saturday during the championship when possibly 10 games were been played ?
The championship will be as good as over in 8 weeks time so its not that much to expect imo.
There are 5 hours of hurling on RTE today. A majority of people in Ireland do not watch GAA or take a very passing interest.
You want more games on because you yourself watch alot of sport.
No , my first problem is with the gaa go . I was willing to pay for it but unfortunately I couldn't watch the game I paid for so therefore cancelled my subscription .
As regards watching more games, I couldn't care less , It's not my job to promote gaelic games , I'll just watch other sports 👍
GAAgo is decent when you are abroad and worthwhile.
But it's a shambles at home. Poor quality and poor value. I'm amazed at the people falling for the GAA/RTE propaganda and defending it on here!
People comparing it to paying to a Sky subscription are being disingenuous (or have been misled by those being disingenuous). Sky Sports contains a massive range of different sports and price is not dependent on what you watch. GAAgo is a pay per view service more similar to Sky Box Office.
The premier league, which is pure money driven, tried to bring in a pay per view service on top of their Sky/BT offering. A 'season ticket' element similar to GAAgo was offered as well as single games. However, the English fans were tuned in enough to realize the massive difference between PPV and the general Sky Sports subscription, they complained and the premier league were forced to back track and abandon it.
There should be 4 games on TV every weekend during the season. Plenty of room in the schedule, they've no problem finding room for 3 or 4 games every single day during world cups. Virgin/TV3 were effectively priced out of it by GAA/RTE looking to gouge us.
And there is absolutely no reason GAAgo could not be free. Could be funded by a sponsor and by adverts. And if it was free there would be considerably more people tuning in, which would increase sponsorship and advertising value.
If people have enough money to pay for this mediocre service, then I've absolutely no problem with them spending their excess cash however they wish, but the narrative that it's great value and we're lucky to have it is absolute nonsense.
Have RTÉ ever looked in to adding a new channel, RTÉ Sport say?
Quote from: smort on May 19, 2024, 12:11:02 PMHave RTÉ ever looked in to adding a new channel, RTÉ Sport say?
There's no reason why they can't show some things on the RTE news channel. Live matches are shown there sometimes, and they could have a Seo Sport style preview show there during the week as well
In the mornings, they regularly show live video footage of Claire Byrne's RTE radio show . No reason why they couldn't have Des Cahill on Sunday sport there, or a final score type show as well.
TSG tries to squeeze in a lot of highlights/punditry . A midweek show could fill in the gaps and look at some things in more detail
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 19, 2024, 10:47:18 AMLads a dodgy fire stick is your friend here
There's a certain irony in that as I don't have an issue with GAAGO as a concept but I hate that casting malarkey and the quality can deteriorate alright, but was in a friends house who has de olde firestick thing going and his picture was far better!
They've a bit of work to do to get the GAAGO app onto some smart TV's
I've a roku stick JC(above board) and it's a great job - you should look into it. No casting or any of that. I can watch any of that hurling pretty much seamlessly.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 20, 2024, 09:14:10 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 19, 2024, 10:47:18 AMLads a dodgy fire stick is your friend here
There's a certain irony in that as I don't have an issue with GAAGO as a concept but I hate that casting malarkey and the quality can deteriorate alright, but was in a friends house who has de olde firestick thing going and his picture was far better!
They've a bit of work to do to get the GAAGO app onto some smart TV's
There is an app or LG tvs now, it worked on my 2019 model.
However, the account credits thing does not work on the app, so I went back to using the browser on the TV.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 20, 2024, 09:14:10 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 19, 2024, 10:47:18 AMLads a dodgy fire stick is your friend here
There's a certain irony in that as I don't have an issue with GAAGO as a concept but I hate that casting malarkey and the quality can deteriorate alright, but was in a friends house who has de olde firestick thing going and his picture was far better!
They've a bit of work to do to get the GAAGO app onto some smart TV's
The GAAgo app is available on loads of TVs now and you can get the app (legally) on a Firestick too. Its as easy as watching Netflix once sorted. My mum is 84 and i got the app sorted for her on her TV and she has no problem at all. I do agree that the price could be subsidised more if they are going to have advertising on the app too, it does frustrate me when pay per view has adverts.
re advertising and broadcasting rights, wouldn't GAAGO need a separate channel for the 26 county subscribers if they were to do adverts? I presume that's why there are no adverts.
I watched the Tipp Cork game on Sunday streamed on RTE but it stuttered, I switched over to the GAAGO stream, it was steady and with 50% more bit rate. I guess that there is less demand for the GAAGO when the game is on RTE, therefore the ratio of demand v bandwidth provided is more healthy on GAAGO.
The Wicklow Laois game was decent enough quality. I wonder how many viewed it live and later on the player.
Kerry v Meath and Derry v Armagh both on RTE in round 2
Cavan v Dublin and Roscommon v Mayo on GAA Go.
A disgrace that Cork v Donegal not on GAA go.
Id have it ahead of all those games bar Derry v Armagh.
Can understand why Mayo Roscommon will be shown ahead of it but it was already televised this year and was an atrocious watch.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 22, 2024, 11:51:24 PMKerry v Meath and Derry v Armagh both on RTE in round 2
Cavan v Dublin and Roscommon v Mayo on GAA Go.
A disgrace that Cork v Donegal not on GAA go.
Id have it ahead of all those games bar Derry v Armagh.
Can understand why Mayo Roscommon will be shown ahead of it but it was already televised this year and was an atrocious watch.
Kerry v Meath would be the surprise selection for me. Mayo v Roscommon and Derry v Armagh would be among the first choice picks for both RTE and GAAGO.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 22, 2024, 11:51:24 PMA disgrace that Cork v Donegal not on GAA go.
This is a disgrace, not least because it is very difficult for Donegal people to travel to Cork to see it and accommodation costs in Cork are very high. Why would the GAA not wish to give an option of seeing it to Donegal people? How hard it is set up a camera? In the case of Mayo v Roscommon where you have neighbours with big stadia then people have a least the option to travel.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 23, 2024, 12:26:48 AMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 22, 2024, 11:51:24 PMKerry v Meath and Derry v Armagh both on RTE in round 2
Cavan v Dublin and Roscommon v Mayo on GAA Go.
A disgrace that Cork v Donegal not on GAA go.
Id have it ahead of all those games bar Derry v Armagh.
Can understand why Mayo Roscommon will be shown ahead of it but it was already televised this year and was an atrocious watch.
Kerry v Meath would be the surprise selection for me. Mayo v Roscommon and Derry v Armagh would be among the first choice picks for both RTE and GAAGO.
Cavan v Dublin will be a massacre though.
Cork could really put it up to Donegal in a packed Pairc Ui Rinn.
They tend to play better there.
They're picking games based on the big counties as opposed to the better games. Monaghan/Louth and Cork/Donegal should be on ahead of the Dublin and Kerry games. Showing them hammering other teams does nothing to promote the championship.
Kerry will destroy Meath.
Derry Armagh be very interesting.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on May 23, 2024, 08:11:21 AMThey're picking games based on the big counties as opposed to the better games. Monaghan/Louth and Cork/Donegal should be on ahead of the Dublin and Kerry games. Showing them hammering other teams does nothing to promote the championship.
They obviously have an objective in getting viewing numbers, but no objective in terms of providing coverage.
There should be a choice of games for the punters to select from, not GAAGO selecting those few games on our behalf. There were cameras recording the games at Clones and Cork, what more does it take to stream those games live?
Quote from: Main Street on June 03, 2024, 06:29:40 PMThere should be a choice of games for the punters to select from, not GAAGO selecting those few games on our behalf. There were cameras recording the games at Clones and Cork, what more does it take to stream those games live?
Broadcast equipment.
The f**kers better not have Armagh v Galway
Quote from: bennydorano on June 03, 2024, 08:45:13 PMThe f**kers better not have Armagh v Galway
Aye ye might have to open your wallet. Break your heart.
Why do the media keep inflicting us with South Armagh accents? As if McConville wasn't enough, now we have Aaron Kernan and they also keep interviewing Rian O'Neill.
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on June 04, 2024, 03:43:16 PMWhy do the media keep inflicting us with South Armagh accents? As if McConville wasn't enough, now we have Aaron Kernan and they also keep interviewing Rian O'Neill.
Rian O'Neill has a lot more Southern Accent than his brother Oisin even.
Some of the Cross lads could pass as Cavan or Louth men.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 04, 2024, 04:43:20 PMQuote from: Norm-Peterson on June 04, 2024, 03:43:16 PMWhy do the media keep inflicting us with South Armagh accents? As if McConville wasn't enough, now we have Aaron Kernan and they also keep interviewing Rian O'Neill.
Rian O'Neill has a lot more Southern Accent than his brother Oisin even.
Some of the Cross lads could pass as Cavan or Louth men.
Risn's room is on the southern side of the house.
It could be worse they could have interviewed one of the Lurgan lads. Must be the most annoying accent ever!
Quote from: armaghniac on June 04, 2024, 10:33:01 PMQuote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 04, 2024, 04:43:20 PMQuote from: Norm-Peterson on June 04, 2024, 03:43:16 PMWhy do the media keep inflicting us with South Armagh accents? As if McConville wasn't enough, now we have Aaron Kernan and they also keep interviewing Rian O'Neill.
Rian O'Neill has a lot more Southern Accent than his brother Oisin even.
Some of the Cross lads could pass as Cavan or Louth men.
Risn's room is on the southern side of the house.
Hahaha 🤣
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2024, 10:40:09 PMIt could be worse they could have interviewed one of the Lurgan lads. Must be the most annoying accent ever!
Turbitt is from Lurgan and was interviewed after the game after getting the MOTM award.
Quote from: statto on June 05, 2024, 09:55:13 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2024, 10:40:09 PMIt could be worse they could have interviewed one of the Lurgan lads. Must be the most annoying accent ever!
Turbitt is from Lurgan and was interviewed after the game after getting the MOTM award.
Didn't see it. Lurgan accent is a lot more grating than the South Armagh feins
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 05, 2024, 01:08:54 PMQuote from: statto on June 05, 2024, 09:55:13 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2024, 10:40:09 PMIt could be worse they could have interviewed one of the Lurgan lads. Must be the most annoying accent ever!
Turbitt is from Lurgan and was interviewed after the game after getting the MOTM award.
Didn't see it. Lurgan accent is a lot more grating than the South Armagh feins
Thought O'Neill's interview he was ready for a fight with his tone
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How do I purchase matches on gaago for Saturday? (I've never used gaago before)
And is it easy set up?
I won't be there so just hoping it's handy to work for those left at home
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 27, 2024, 07:07:29 PMHow do I purchase matches on gaago for Saturday? (I've never used gaago before)
And is it easy set up?
I won't be there so just hoping it's handy to work for those left at home
If you go to this page https://www.gaago.ie/matches/live there is a "Buy Now" button below each game (at least in the US)
You can watch the games via a browser or via a TV app (
Roku, Fire, Apple TV, Google TV, Samsung TV, LG TV )
If you want to try it out now you can go to this page https://www.gaago.ie/matches/catchup and many of the older games are free.
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 27, 2024, 07:07:29 PMHow do I purchase matches on gaago for Saturday? (I've never used gaago before)
And is it easy set up?
I won't be there so just hoping it's handy to work for those left at home
Pick the game you want and select "buy now" this will bring you to a create a new user screen and it will ask for your card details then you are all set to go. Make a note of your username and password.
Thanks. I'll give that a go
There doesn't seem to be an option or incentive to purchase both games. It's €12 for each game, maybe I'm missing something but would a deal to cover both games say €20 not attract more customers??
Quote from: ardtole on June 28, 2024, 04:34:07 AMThere doesn't seem to be an option or incentive to purchase both games. It's €12 for each game, maybe I'm missing something but would a deal to cover both games say €20 not attract more customers??
They had a standard 3 for 2 package on the go - you could take that option and it would allow you to choose an older game to re-watch!
Fwiw I wouldn't choose the 3 for 2, as that means you can't watch using the app and in my experience anyway means you have to watch via the browser leading to a less than optimal tv experience - I hooked HDMI to tv.
Gaa Go Season Pass Was Great Value
Have To Say Presenter Grainne Mc Elwain is An Absolute Treasure
Her Pleasant and Professional Style is Wonderfull to Behold
I Know She Has Worked With TG4 As Well ,
But RTE Have To Get Her On Board
I have No doubt She Would Be A Huge Sucess
Michael Murphy has Proved Himself to Be An Excellent Pundit
Quote from: GalwayBay1966 on June 30, 2024, 08:18:46 AMGaa Go Season Pass Was Great Value
Have To Say Presenter Grainne Mc Elwain is An Absolute Treasure
Her Pleasant and Professional Style is Wonderfull to Behold
I Know She Has Worked With TG4 As Well ,
But RTE Have To Get Her On Board
I have No doubt She Would Be A Huge Sucess
Michael Murphy has Proved Himself to Be An Excellent Pundit
Agree with all this. For a big Donegal galoot Murphy speaks well.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 30, 2024, 09:10:44 AMQuote from: GalwayBay1966 on June 30, 2024, 08:18:46 AMGaa Go Season Pass Was Great Value
Have To Say Presenter Grainne Mc Elwain is An Absolute Treasure
Her Pleasant and Professional Style is Wonderfull to Behold
I Know She Has Worked With TG4 As Well ,
But RTE Have To Get Her On Board
I have No doubt She Would Be A Huge Sucess
Michael Murphy has Proved Himself to Be An Excellent Pundit
Agree with all this. For a big Donegal galoot Murphy speaks well.
Would that be O'Connors first bit of punditry? Always good to hear from current players. Kernan good as well
I think it's a lot easier to co-commentate on the actual game than to do analysis after the game in the studio.
+ 1 on Murphy - he's been very good any time I've heard him
Fingers crossed he gets promoted to the Sunday Game sooner rather than later.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41539271.html
QuoteThe GAA have proposed to buy RTÉ out of their 50% share of premium streaming service GAAGO, the Irish Examiner has learned.
Negotiations are expected to take place over the coming weeks as Croke Park seeks full ownership of the pay-per-view platform, which generated €5.23 million in revenue for the jointly-owned company in 2023, an increase of over 100% from €2.6m the previous year.
The move comes as this newspaper can confirm GAAGO will retain the two championship media rights packages the GAA made available in August.
The tranches were open to tender for the next two years and TG4 confirmed they had made a bid, believed to be aimed at acquiring the six-game package including the All-Ireland senior football quarter-finals and a Munster SHC game.
However, interested parties have been informed that GAAGO will continue to show those games as well as the eight-game package, which includes several Saturday matches.
It had been reported the GAA had come under pressure from the State's competition watchdog, the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission, to resubmit the two deals to the market, but Croke Park sources denied those claims.
The decision is a blow for TG4 who televise GAA games almost year round including the Allianz Leagues, All-Ireland club championships and U20 and minor provincial and All-Ireland fixtures. Streaming company Clubber were also believed to be interested in obtaining a deal.
It remains to be seen if the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media pursue making all four All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals available free to air.
Outgoing minister Catherine Martin had indicated support for making all GAA senior championship matches from the quarter-final stages be televised live on terrestrial TV.
In his annual report released in February, GAA director general Tom Ryan confirmed the organisation would oppose the move.
"It would remove our right to negotiate and would have a seriously detrimental impact on our finances and our operations. We will be making a submission on the matter."
Several politicians including Martin's junior minister Thomas Byrne as well as Micheál Martin and Simon Harris had called on more major GAA games to be shown free-to-air.
Martin said he had "huge concerns about it, I don't understand it, in terms of the promotion of the game of hurling" while Harris claimed the GAA had "gotten it wrong".
In October, the GAAGO accounts for the 2023 financial year showed they earned €4.96m in subscriptions and sponsorship of €273,437. Pre-tax profits jumped by nearly 50% from €595,750 to €874,047.
Creating a Monopoly is never healthy and that looks like what they are trying to do, with an eye to maximising the price gouging no doubt. I hope RTE have the right to refuse the buy out and do so. Gaago is the devil's spawn.
The GAA's expertise is in running a sport, not running a streaming platform. I would prefer if they kept a TV company involved. I watch in the US and the picture quality I get from GAAGO, although watchable, is not as good as any of the other sports streaming I watch.
Quote from: bennydorano on December 18, 2024, 07:26:50 PMCreating a Monopoly is never healthy and that looks like what they are trying to do, with an eye to maximising the price gouging no doubt. I hope RTE have the right to refuse the buy out and do so. Gaago is the devil's spawn.
Why?
In my experience, monopolies for televised sport are a rare example of monopolies benefitting consumers.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 18, 2024, 10:05:28 PMIn my experience, monopolies for televised sport are a rare example of monopolies benefitting consumers.
I'm struggling to think of any such example in any sport?
If GAAGO becomes the sole rights holder of GAA, we only have behind a paywall provider, how is that a benefit to anyone? Do we just have to hope they will LET a terrestrial TV provider show some matches?
Quote from: bennydorano on December 18, 2024, 10:54:59 PMQuote from: thewobbler on December 18, 2024, 10:05:28 PMIn my experience, monopolies for televised sport are a rare example of monopolies benefitting consumers.
I'm struggling to think of any such example in any sport?
If GAAGO becomes the sole rights holder of GAA, we only have behind a paywall provider, how is that a benefit to anyone? Do we just have to hope they will LET a terrestrial TV provider show some matches?
It's around £500pm for our club to enjoy showing Sky TV. And yet most of the PL games in December are unavailable to us.
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I'm thinking that a paywall system is inevitable if we aspire to blanket coverage. There's just not the room/interest for free to air to cover entire championships.
Only having one paywall is much more preferable than having multiple. Even more so again if the purpose of that provider generating a profit is to reinvest it in the sport.
Or 0 paywalls would be ideal...
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 18, 2024, 11:29:21 PMOr 0 paywalls would be ideal...
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 18, 2024, 11:29:21 PMOr 0 paywalls would be ideal...
I agree.
But I'd guess (I don't have figures) that the majority of "tier 2 and below" games provided on a free to air platform, it produced in any sort of professional manner, would lose money on their broadcast.
The majority tier 1 games will - I assume - always be on free to air platforms. If we want to watch the rest of them from our living rooms, surely the least we can do is help the platform break even?
Quote from: dec on December 18, 2024, 07:36:19 PMThe GAA's expertise is in running a sport, not running a streaming platform. I would prefer if they kept a TV company involved. I watch in the US and the picture quality I get from GAAGO, although watchable, is not as good as any of the other sports streaming I watch.
As it stands the service can be dodgy.
The TV companies are all hired in so RTÉ mostly provide the talent and they are skint so you still get some games with no real analysis.
The GAA could just hire in all these outside broadcasting crews to do it and sell on what they want just like UEFA.
I think the URC is all done by a company and the broadcaster just plugs in.
But where does all this sit with game promotion?
Also it simply wasn't true when the claims were that they didn't cherry pick games.
Say what you want when Sky came in but they were open and honest about wanting to make money and their coverage was top notch.
The GAA should come up with new central membership scheme. So instead of paying a membership fee each year to your club you would sign up via GAA.
There would be different types of membership packages but by being a GAA member you get the subscription to GAA Go included (if desired, cheaper version if you dont). Part of the fee goes directly to the subscribers chosen club, given clubs have large diasporas abroad this could be very beneficial financially to clubs and the GAA as a whole. For example I live abroad and have no real link to my club but if I wanted to view GAA Go and could support my old club at the same time Id be glad to do so.
I also think RTE waste a lot of money on analysis and interviews, I think a Commentator and co-commentator are fine for each game, Clubber do this and it works reasonably well.
On its own GAAGO is a decent package, for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still.. At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.
Quote from: bennydorano on December 19, 2024, 02:06:38 PMOn its own GAAGO is a decent package, for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still.. At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.
But the number of games being shown now has increased. The vast majority of games shown exclusively on GAAGo were never shown until they came along.
Quote from: RedHand88 on December 19, 2024, 02:30:24 PMQuote from: bennydorano on December 19, 2024, 02:06:38 PMOn its own GAAGO is a decent package, for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still.. At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.
But the number of games being shown now has increased. The vast majority of games shown exclusively on GAAGo were never shown until they came along.
Is it a private company? do any of the funds go back into the GAA?
I've no problems with the association with regards to the cost of things (within reason) as this (hopefully) is being used to cover the costs for things that we use or expect when we go and watch our games and the coaches at club/county and other levels that look after them need supported
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2024, 02:50:38 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on December 19, 2024, 02:30:24 PMQuote from: bennydorano on December 19, 2024, 02:06:38 PMOn its own GAAGO is a decent package, for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still.. At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.
But the number of games being shown now has increased. The vast majority of games shown exclusively on GAAGo were never shown until they came along.
Is it a private company? do any of the funds go back into the GAA?
I've no problems with the association with regards to the cost of things (within reason) as this (hopefully) is being used to cover the costs for things that we use or expect when we go and watch our games and the coaches at club/county and other levels that look after them need supported
50% owned by the GAA so I'd expect 50% of the profit to go back into the GAA.
They've put it out to tender I believe so lets see who wants to take it up.
Maybe the GAA have a different partner in mind.
It's a good day for the IPTV lads I'd think.
I dunno why people are giving out about GAAGo when Rip.ie is going to charge €100!
Quote from: armaghniac on December 19, 2024, 03:46:19 PMI dunno why people are giving out about GAAGo when Rip.ie is going to charge €100!
You only die once though.
Any more chat on this?
Are RTE gone or what's the story.
I know people can't expect any service for free BUT RTE and the GAA both receive tax payer money and then want to charge again.
Sky Sports charged but didn't receive anything from us aside.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on December 28, 2024, 10:04:26 PMAny more chat on this?
Are RTE gone or what's the story.
I know people can't expect any service for free BUT RTE and the GAA both receive tax payer money and then want to charge again.
Sky Sports charged but didn't receive anything from us aside.
The GAA receives money from the taxpayers, but there is a case that it should be used for training youth teams or whatever and not providing free streaming.
I think the actual remit of GaaGo is messy now.
It was for people abroad. That has changed.
Like they claimed games were not cherry picked when they clearly are.
If it is to make money as a commercial entity then that is what they should do.
If its to promote games or highlight matches that tv may not show then that's another thing.
Quote from: armaghniac on December 19, 2024, 03:46:19 PMI dunno why people are giving out about GAAGo when Rip.ie is going to charge €100!
I see a chap in Donegal has setup a new site called www.condolence.ie which will be launching in the first week in January 2025.
On this website your Funeral Director will be able to upload death notices completely free of charge. Family and Friends will also be able access and add their condolences free of charge too.
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 30, 2024, 01:51:08 AMQuote from: armaghniac on December 19, 2024, 03:46:19 PMI dunno why people are giving out about GAAGo when Rip.ie is going to charge €100!
I see a chap in Donegal has setup a new site called www.condolence.ie which will be launching in the first week in January 2025.
On this website your Funeral Director will be able to upload death notices completely free of charge. Family and Friends will also be able access and add their condolences free of charge too.
So now you'll have to check half a dozen websites! Will he have email alerts like RIP.ie?
So, is GAA+ just a rebrand of GAAGo then or is it a different service? Can't seem to find any more info on it.
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 22, 2025, 07:27:33 PMSo, is GAA+ just a rebrand of GAAGo then or is it a different service? Can't seem to find any more info on it.
Thought the same when I got the email, the GAA are brutal at promoting themselves and the competitions
QuoteGAA president Jarlath Burns has confirmed the association's new in-house media platform as GAA+.
Replacing GAAGO, the announcement at Congress in Donegal this afternoon confirms the GAA have bought RTÉ out of its share of the streaming service.
Burns revealed the move will ensure there is more content on the pay-per-view service including midweek programmes. It will make its live debut in the opening weekend of the championships in April.
"Why are we doing this?" asked Burns. "To be strategic, to be a leader in Irish sport, to leverage global trends, to future proof the value of our broadcast rights in a quickly evolving media world, to further embrace the digital age and meet our members' demands.
"Our growing in-house expertise allows us to pursue this project entirely on our own in the domestic and international markets, but I would like to acknowledge and thank RTÉ for their collaboration and partnership over the course of the last decade.
"Their know-how and experience were vital in establishing proof of concept for what was a new venture and a first in Irish sport. We look forward to working with them as traditional media partners for many years to come – as part of a mutually beneficial relationship that stretches back to the first European Sports broadcast on 2RN in 1926.
"This latest development represents a major step forward for us in managing and utilising our own rights and when you consider the seismic changes in the media landscape over the last decade, this has to be welcomed."
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41579869.html
More content being mentioned here but who knows how much more.
Probably do a similar to RTE and broadcast something like 2 more games in total.
Based on the marketing speak by Burns it's hard to think they will do anything to upset RTE much any time soon. Long-term I think it's going to be a while before Croke Park grasp the possibilities of GAA+ but the growing amount of subscriptions plus the profits it brings in mean that eventually they will actually start to develop it properly.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0222/1498278-gaago-detached-from-rte-as-it-rebrands-as-gaa/
RTE's reporting on the deal.
When I heard it was called GAA+ I thought we were bought out by Disney.
And maybe they were behind the Gaelic football reboot.
Championship Games confirmed for Gaa+ today. 79 euro to watch all.
Full Schedule
Sat 5 April
Connacht Football Quarter Final
London v Roscommon
Sun 6 April
Connacht Football Quarter Final
New York v Galway
Connacht Football Quarter Final
Mayo v Sligo
Sat 12 April
Leinster Football Quarter Final
Kildare v Westmeath
Sat 19 April
Connacht Football Semi Final
Leitrim v Mayo/Sligo
Munster Football Semi Final
Kerry v Cork/Limerick
Sun 20 April
Munster Hurling Championship
Tipperary v Limerick
Ulster Football Quarter Final
Monaghan v Donegal/Derry
Sat 26 April
Ulster Football Championship Semi Final
Antrim/Armagh v Tyrone/Cavan
Leinster Hurling Championship
Dublin v Wexford
Sun 27 April
Leinster Football Semi Final
Offaly/Carlow/Meath v Dublin/Wicklow/Longford
Leinster Football Semi Final
Kildare/Westmeath v Louth/Longford/Laois/Wexford
Sat 3 May
Munster Hurling Championship
Waterford v Limerick
Sat 10 May
Munster Hurling Championship
Clare v Tipperary
Leinster Hurling Championship
Antrim v Dublin
Tailteann Cup
Game of the Week (Round 1)
Sat 17 May
All-Ireland Football Championship
2x Round 1 games
Tailteann Cup
Game of the Week (Round 2)
Sun 18 May
Leinster Hurling Championship
Kilkenny v Dublin
Sat 24 May
All-Ireland Football Championship
2x Round 1 games
Sun 25 May
Munster / Leinster Hurling Championship
1x game TBC
Sat 31 May
All-Ireland Football Championship
2x Round 2 games
Tailteann Cup
Game of the Week (Round 3)
Sun 1 June
All-Ireland Football Championship
1x Round 2 game
Sat 7 June
Tailteann Cup
2x Preliminary Quarter Finals
Sat 14 June
All-Ireland Hurling Championship
1x Preliminary Quarter Final
All-Ireland Football Championship
2x Round 3 games
Tailteann Cup
2x Quarter Finals
Sat/Sun 21/22 June
All-Ireland Football Championship
4x Preliminary Quarter Finals
28 June
All-Ireland Football Championship
2x Quarter Finals
And what about the 80 year old farmer down in Cork who doesn't have GAA plus. How will he watch... oh wait... de Cork hurling is not on GAA plus.
Thanks for posting that Blowitupref, its great to see all the Connacht games will be shown live.
€79 I suppose is not a big pile for all that , but I couldn't be arsed watching that much. Watching your own county and maybe a couple of neighbours (, because you want them beat is about all I could be arsed with)
Highlights on TSG will be more than enough
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 31, 2025, 10:51:26 PM€79 I suppose is not a big pile for all that , but I couldn't be arsed watching that much. Watching your own county and maybe a couple of neighbours (, because you want them beat is about all I could be arsed with)
Highlights on TSG will be more than enough
Totally agree.
During the league, there was a heap on matches on tv at the week-end - Saturday and Sunday. No end to them.
Wall to wall coverage.
It's like 'tv' nowadays. I spend most of my time flicking through channels and different networks...harking back to the good old days of just 6 channels.
Life was a lot simpler then. 8)
I see there are some archive games on GAA+ including Ulster final 1992. There is a lot of buffering and there is nothing wrong with my internet. The quality is poor too, I doubt that is the quality that the original TV broadcast was. The 1993 all Ireland on YouTube is very good quality. I would like to see a good quality version of Derry Dublin 1993.
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 31, 2025, 10:51:26 PM€79 I suppose is not a big pile for all that , but I couldn't be arsed watching that much. Watching your own county and maybe a couple of neighbours (, because you want them beat is about all I could be arsed with)
Highlights on TSG will be more than enough
$139 if you are stateside, I'll stay with my FireStick and VPN.
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on April 01, 2025, 11:02:19 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on March 31, 2025, 10:51:26 PM€79 I suppose is not a big pile for all that , but I couldn't be arsed watching that much. Watching your own county and maybe a couple of neighbours (, because you want them beat is about all I could be arsed with)
Highlights on TSG will be more than enough
$139 if you are stateside, I'll stay with my FireStick and VPN.
The stick worked fine last year but was ropey enough the year before, depends on the attitude & resources directed towards piracy this season I suppose.
Has anyone in North bought Gaa+?
Whenever I try to purchase for €79 it says "This product is not available in your territory. You can view available packages below" and refers you to link to purchase for €90?
Quote from: statto on April 03, 2025, 08:37:37 AMHas anyone in North bought Gaa+?
Whenever I try to purchase for €79 it says "This product is not available in your territory. You can view available packages below" and refers you to link to purchase for €90?
Had this issue and then emailed and was sent a different link, it worked fine when they sent me that. Apparently its an issue with certain internet and mobile providers showing people in the North's location as in Britain.
Can you watch matches when suits yourself or are all events live only?
Quote from: AnDúnAbú94 on April 04, 2025, 05:33:31 PMQuote from: statto on April 03, 2025, 08:37:37 AMHas anyone in North bought Gaa+?
Whenever I try to purchase for €79 it says "This product is not available in your territory. You can view available packages below" and refers you to link to purchase for €90?
Had this issue and then emailed and was sent a different link, it worked fine when they sent me that. Apparently its an issue with certain internet and mobile providers showing people in the North's location as in Britain.
On my phone it's €79, on the laptop it's €90.
Think you can get a GAA go discount through Foireann.ie if you're a member of a GAA club
Quote from: AnDúnAbú94 on April 04, 2025, 05:33:31 PMQuote from: statto on April 03, 2025, 08:37:37 AMHas anyone in North bought Gaa+?
Whenever I try to purchase for €79 it says "This product is not available in your territory. You can view available packages below" and refers you to link to purchase for €90?
Had this issue and then emailed and was sent a different link, it worked fine when they sent me that. Apparently its an issue with certain internet and mobile providers showing people in the North's location as in Britain.
And of course people blame RTE, TG4 or GAA+ rather than the provider they have chosen to do business with!
Using a phone the site can check the GPS location.
Quote from: fearsiuil on April 04, 2025, 09:57:36 PMCan you watch matches when suits yourself or are all events live only?
If I cannot watch game live is it possible to watch game at later stage with GAA+?
Yes it is
So if I stumped up for GAA Go a few months ago I have to pay again ?
Wouldn't think so. Where are you? I'm in the US. I had to log in again with the new website, but my subscription shows as up to date.
Say what you want but for Kildare v Westmeath there was many comments around me about their gantry, number of cameras, etc there. The production is less stuffy too.
Like then have a look at this...
The famous 'John 3:16′ and later 'John 3:7′ placards, carried by supporter Frank Hogan, became part of the iconography of GAA summers from the 1980s on.
In that spirit, let us commandeer another – 'John 8:7′ – this week. That's the biblical verse dealing with the whole 'Let he without sin cast the first stone' situation.
The Schemozzle certainly isn't that – without sin - but we'll cast it anyway in the direction of RTÉ pundit Paul Flynn, who predicted a close contest between Cavan and Tyrone. That call was off the mark, perhaps because his info let him down.
In Flynn's preview, he reckoned Cavan had been "very impressive at the back" and "they have new, young players in Niall Carolan and Sean McEvoy, who has been excellent in midfield".
In reality, Cavan conceded 159 points, an average of 22.7 points per game, in the National League, which meant that, defensively, they ranked 28th out of the 32 teams in the country.
'New' corner-back Carolan, who is the fourth generation of his family to play represent Cavan, is now in his fourth season as a starter. Former Republic of Ireland U17 international McEvoy, meanwhile, did light things up during the league but as a corner-forward.
Like why spend money on rights and OB units and throw him and the likes of Cora to front it?!
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on April 19, 2025, 03:46:38 PMIn Flynn's preview, he reckoned Cavan had been "very impressive at the back" and "they have new, young players in Niall Carolan and Sean McEvoy, who has been excellent in midfield".
In reality, Cavan conceded 159 points, an average of 22.7 points per game, in the National League, which meant that, defensively, they ranked 28th out of the 32 teams in the country.
'New' corner-back Carolan, who is the fourth generation of his family to play represent Cavan, is now in his fourth season as a starter. Former Republic of Ireland U17 international McEvoy, meanwhile, did light things up during the league but as a corner-forward.
Like why spend money on rights and OB units and throw him and the likes of Cora to front it?!
Why not get some local people who know the teams and have seen them play do the analysis.
They'd have more insight than pundits who did 10 minutes googling!
Can you buy stand alone games on GAA +, like on Tyrone TV or Down TV, Just pay for 1 game?
Quote from: Truth hurts on April 23, 2025, 02:45:21 PMCan you buy stand alone games on GAA +, like on Tyrone TV or Down TV, Just pay for 1 game?
There's an offer that you can buy 3 games for €24 and you can use them whenever you want or just pay €12 per game as you want.
Quote from: clonian on April 23, 2025, 03:19:08 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on April 23, 2025, 02:45:21 PMCan you buy stand alone games on GAA +, like on Tyrone TV or Down TV, Just pay for 1 game?
There's an offer that you can buy 3 games for €24 and you can use them whenever you want or just pay €12 per game as you want.
Is there a list of the other games to be shown on Gaago? You could buy the 3 game option, and your team might never feature again
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 23, 2025, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: clonian on April 23, 2025, 03:19:08 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on April 23, 2025, 02:45:21 PMCan you buy stand alone games on GAA +, like on Tyrone TV or Down TV, Just pay for 1 game?
There's an offer that you can buy 3 games for €24 and you can use them whenever you want or just pay €12 per game as you want.
Is there a list of the other games to be shown on Gaago? You could buy the 3 game option, and your team might never feature again
Could you not just watch other teams play then?
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 23, 2025, 04:51:24 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on April 23, 2025, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: clonian on April 23, 2025, 03:19:08 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on April 23, 2025, 02:45:21 PMCan you buy stand alone games on GAA +, like on Tyrone TV or Down TV, Just pay for 1 game?
There's an offer that you can buy 3 games for €24 and you can use them whenever you want or just pay €12 per game as you want.
Is there a list of the other games to be shown on Gaago? You could buy the 3 game option, and your team might never feature again
Could you not just watch other teams play then?
Ugh, that feels like such a chore.
I honestly find it difficult sitting through matches that I have no investment in, except for maybe AI semis and finals.
If you fancy your county to go well at all the 2 for 3 is good.
But as much as we moan 79 is very good for the year.
As I said the production is good and the pundits are more up to date. The Comms are good too.
I'm heading to more games this year so didn't get it mind.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on April 24, 2025, 09:15:03 AMIf you fancy your county to go well at all the 2 for 3 is good.
But as much as we moan 79 is very good for the year.
As I said the production is good and the pundits are more up to date. The Comms are good too.
I'm heading to more games this year so didn't get it mind.
I'd be hopeful things will improve in the next few years as it seemed like there was a good bit of time and energy spent on the process of disengaging with RTE.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on April 24, 2025, 09:15:03 AMIf you fancy your county to go well at all the 2 for 3 is good.
But as much as we moan 79 is very good for the year.
As I said the production is good and the pundits are more up to date. The Comms are good too.
I'm heading to more games this year so didn't get it mind.
Who are the usual pundits there?
Missed Gal-Ros last Sunday on RTE but tuned in for analysis after. It was very dull.
They flip a bit but Marc O Se, Paddy Andrews, Aaron Kiernan seem to be around.
For Kildare they had John Heslin too. McElwain is good too.
Assume u can't watch GAA plus on 2 separate devices at the same time? I have the annual pass, but father in law is looking to watch the Tyrone game later too?
I can't get the gaa+ app on a new Samsung tv. Anyone had same issue ?
Anyone experiencing difficulties finding Tyrone kerry game to buy on the app for Saturday?
Quote from: bogball88 on July 11, 2025, 02:44:16 AMAnyone experiencing difficulties finding Tyrone kerry game to buy on the app for Saturday?
The game is on rte/bbc, im
Not sure if it's definitely available to buy on GAA plus. I presume it must be for all Ireland semi final
Maybe it will be accessible closer to the throw in time
Quote from: downgael2065 on July 11, 2025, 07:12:36 AMQuote from: bogball88 on July 11, 2025, 02:44:16 AMAnyone experiencing difficulties finding Tyrone kerry game to buy on the app for Saturday?
The game is on rte/bbc, im
Not sure if it's definitely available to buy on GAA plus. I presume it must be for all Ireland semi final
Maybe it will be accessible closer to the throw in time
If the BBC are showing it then it will only be available outside these islands.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2025, 04:54:53 PMQuote from: downgael2065 on July 11, 2025, 07:12:36 AMQuote from: bogball88 on July 11, 2025, 02:44:16 AMAnyone experiencing difficulties finding Tyrone kerry game to buy on the app for Saturday?
The game is on rte/bbc, im
Not sure if it's definitely available to buy on GAA plus. I presume it must be for all Ireland semi final
Maybe it will be accessible closer to the throw in time
If the BBC are showing it then it will only be available outside these islands.
Showed the hurling so will definitely show the football, iplayer should have it also, can Iplayer been watched in Spain?