In the run-up to the All Ireland final most Dublin schools will be displaying blue banners in support of the county team and many children will be wearing Dublin colours. Does anyone feel that this is acceptable or is it discriminatory towards children of non-Dublin parents?
This snowflake attitude thing is getting out of control.
I have a niece in Dublin of school-going age who will support Mayo, wear the jersey etc, when accompanying her Dad or uncle to games. I have warned her that I expect her to be in blue for the final as she's a Dub. In the same way I'd expect Dublin schools to fly the blue while at the same time making an allowance in the classroom for any child born in Mayo who has transferred in. From my experience as a teacher kids are in general more accommodating of difference than their parents.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
I have a niece in Dublin of school-going age who will support Mayo, wear the jersey etc, when accompanying her Dad or uncle to games. I have warned her that I expect her to be in blue for the final as she's a Dub. In the same way I'd expect Dublin schools to fly the blue while at the same time making an allowance in the classroom for any child born in Mayo who has transferred in. From my experience as a teacher kids are in general more accommodating of difference than their parents.
I agree 100% with your sentiments - but I have heard of a number of cases this week where parents complained to schools about the display of Dublin colours.
Personally if I lived in another county I would encourage my children to support the county in which they were living.
dublin is dublin. hang the colours in the county
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
I have a niece in Dublin of school-going age who will support Mayo, wear the jersey etc, when accompanying her Dad or uncle to games. I have warned her that I expect her to be in blue for the final as she's a Dub. In the same way I'd expect Dublin schools to fly the blue while at the same time making an allowance in the classroom for any child born in Mayo who has transferred in. From my experience as a teacher kids are in general more accommodating of difference than their parents.
I agree 100% with your sentiments - but I have heard of a number of cases this week where parents complained to schools about the display of Dublin colours.
Personally if I lived in another county I would encourage my children to support the county in which they were living.
To be honest I was hoping this was slightly tongue in cheek...sadly not.
Look if the school is in Dublin their colours fly and the kids should be encouraged to support age county of their home, and have a soft spot for their parent's home county.
If it was in Mayo those parents with concerns over Mayo colours flying would hopefully told to f off.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
I have a niece in Dublin of school-going age who will support Mayo, wear the jersey etc, when accompanying her Dad or uncle to games. I have warned her that I expect her to be in blue for the final as she's a Dub. In the same way I'd expect Dublin schools to fly the blue while at the same time making an allowance in the classroom for any child born in Mayo who has transferred in. From my experience as a teacher kids are in general more accommodating of difference than their parents.
I agree 100% with your sentiments - but I have heard of a number of cases this week where parents complained to schools about the display of Dublin colours.
Personally if I lived in another county I would encourage my children to support the county in which they were living.
Not a problem many Dublin people face. If anything the opposite - children supporting and playing for their family's county, not the one they ended up in because of jobs - needs to be happening if senior IC isn't going to collapse as a fair competition under the unmovable heft of Dublin.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
I have a niece in Dublin of school-going age who will support Mayo, wear the jersey etc, when accompanying her Dad or uncle to games. I have warned her that I expect her to be in blue for the final as she's a Dub. In the same way I'd expect Dublin schools to fly the blue while at the same time making an allowance in the classroom for any child born in Mayo who has transferred in. From my experience as a teacher kids are in general more accommodating of difference than their parents.
I agree 100% with your sentiments - but I have heard of a number of cases this week where parents complained to schools about the display of Dublin colours.
Personally if I lived in another county I would encourage my children to support the county in which they were living.
I'm a culchie living in dublin and my kids are all about the dubs (and rightly so - they were born here after all). You'll see kids following their parents counties but as they grow older they switch over to dublin (particularly if they are playing themselves)
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
In the run-up to the All Ireland final most Dublin schools will be displaying blue banners in support of the county team and many children will be wearing Dublin colours. Does anyone feel that this is acceptable or is it discriminatory towards children of non-Dublin parents?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets more money from the Gaa?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets to play all home games in the Championship?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to use the same dressing rooms in Croke Park?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to warm up under the Hill?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have the biggest sponsorship deals?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin media singled out Lee Keegan before last years AI Final?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have Abbotstown on their doorstep?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin is the centre where all the jobs are?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to play League semi-finals and Finals at home?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have all the advantages asked above and many more?
If all you have to worry about is a few culchies waving a few flags and wearing jerseys from other counties in your schools, you have little to be concerned about.
Absolutely no complaints on this from me.
What I do complain about is the sheer ignorance of the comments in here , some of you think you know stuff but your understanding of this subject is ignorant. Ill give you a personal example of how it works for many people.
I myself was born in England of Mayo parents, in fact I didnt move home till I was eleven after a few years in wicklow, but Mayo was always home, summers in Achill my fathers hime place and supporting the county team was and still is the focal point of family gatherings cousins who were born and bred outside of Mayo.
Now here I am living in dublin with three kids two of whom are Mayo die hards, nobody forced their hand but who the fook are ye to deny them the right to support the county they associate as their own. Its how they feel , its how it panned out, maybe if there mam had of been a GAA person they might of been dubs , unfortunately the youngest buckeen, the footballer of the house is a dub though.
A Culchie enclave should be carved out of Dublin. Singapore did it in reverse one time
Quote from: larryin89 on September 02, 2017, 05:29:55 PM
Absolutely no complaints on this from me.
What I do complain about is the sheer ignorance of the comments in here , some of you think you know stuff but your understanding of this subject is ignorant. Ill give you a personal example of how it works for many people.
I myself was born in England of Mayo parents, in fact I didnt move home till I was eleven after a few years in wicklow, but Mayo was always home, summers in Achill my fathers hime place and supporting the county team was and still is the focal point of family gatherings cousins who were born and bred outside of Mayo.
Now here I am living in dublin with three kids two of whom are Mayo die hards, nobody forced their hand but who the fook are ye to deny them the right to support the county they associate as their own. Its how they feel , its how it panned out, maybe if there mam had of been a GAA person they might of been dubs , unfortunately the youngest buckeen, the footballer of the house is a dub though.
No problem here with any of the above and if my niece's first allegiance was to Mayo I'd be the first to applaud her ... but it's not. But I have also seen a lot of kids enjoyment of sport being ruined by parents who insist on their kids supporting or declaring for a club/county other than that which they and their friends would identify. None of which has much to do with whither Dublin schools should fly their county flag.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on September 02, 2017, 05:29:55 PM
Absolutely no complaints on this from me.
What I do complain about is the sheer ignorance of the comments in here , some of you think you know stuff but your understanding of this subject is ignorant. Ill give you a personal example of how it works for many people.
I myself was born in England of Mayo parents, in fact I didnt move home till I was eleven after a few years in wicklow, but Mayo was always home, summers in Achill my fathers hime place and supporting the county team was and still is the focal point of family gatherings cousins who were born and bred outside of Mayo.
Now here I am living in dublin with three kids two of whom are Mayo die hards, nobody forced their hand but who the fook are ye to deny them the right to support the county they associate as their own. Its how they feel , its how it panned out, maybe if there mam had of been a GAA person they might of been dubs , unfortunately the youngest buckeen, the footballer of the house is a dub though.
No problem here with any of the above and if my niece's first allegiance was to Mayo I'd be the first to applaud her ... but it's not. But I have also seen a lot of kids enjoyment of sport being ruined by parents who insist on their kids supporting or declaring for a club/county other than that which they and their friends would identify. None of which has much to do with whither Dublin schools should fly their county flag.
The poor things.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
In the run-up to the All Ireland final most Dublin schools will be displaying blue banners in support of the county team and many children will be wearing Dublin colours. Does anyone feel that this is acceptable or is it discriminatory towards children of non-Dublin parents?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets more money from the Gaa?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets to play all home games in the Championship?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to use the same dressing rooms in Croke Park?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to warm up under the Hill?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have the biggest sponsorship deals?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin media singled out Lee Keegan before last years AI Final?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have Abbotstown on their doorstep?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin is the centre where all the jobs are?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to play League semi-finals and Finals at home?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have all the advantages asked above and many more?
If all you have to worry about is a few culchies waving a few flags and wearing jerseys from other counties in your schools, you have little to be concerned about.
Grow to f... up I am a Tyrone man and this incessant Bla Bla Bla about the Dubs and their advantages is starting to piss me off it's up to the others to find the way. By the way I hope Mayo do find it but to post this crap is just childish. The Dubs are a great side simply because they have 30 fantastic dedicated footballers who have a savage hunger for celtic crosses.
Quote from: SkillfulBill on September 02, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
In the run-up to the All Ireland final most Dublin schools will be displaying blue banners in support of the county team and many children will be wearing Dublin colours. Does anyone feel that this is acceptable or is it discriminatory towards children of non-Dublin parents?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets more money from the Gaa?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets to play all home games in the Championship?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to use the same dressing rooms in Croke Park?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to warm up under the Hill?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have the biggest sponsorship deals?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin media singled out Lee Keegan before last years AI Final?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have Abbotstown on their doorstep?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin is the centre where all the jobs are?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to play League semi-finals and Finals at home?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have all the advantages asked above and many more?
If all you have to worry about is a few culchies waving a few flags and wearing jerseys from other counties in your schools, you have little to be concerned about.
Grow to f... up I am a Tyrone man and this incessant Bla Bla Bla about the Dubs and their advantages is starting to piss me off it's up to the others to find the way. By the way I hope Mayo do find it but to post this crap is just childish. The Dubs are a great side simply because they have 30 fantastic dedicated footballers who have a savage hunger for celtic crosses.
You're not much of one if you'd defend Dublin warping the entire sport out of proportion.
Dublin didn't find a way, they were given away millions of them. Telling counties to find a way is as bad as the shit Declan D'Arcy has come out with today.
Serious question - with the wealth of talent Dublin have on the bench, will there come a time when a fella (of non-dublin parents) who is say ~20th pick for the Dublin forwards gets to around 24 and realises he's not going to make it in Dublin and transfers to his parents county. Is it the kind of thing that might become commonplace?
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 02, 2017, 11:59:17 PM
Serious question - with the wealth of talent Dublin have on the bench, will there come a time when a fella (of non-dublin parents) who is say ~20th pick for the Dublin forwards gets to around 24 and realises he's not going to make it in Dublin and transfers to his parents county. Is it the kind of thing that might become commonplace?
Sure it's happening in Mayo even, a Ballyhaunis lad declaring for Clare this year. It's only going to happen with more regularity given Dublin are monopolizing all the money and coaching and producing way more senior IC level talent than any other county.
Unless a lad comes to you at U17/U20 I'd say he mightn't be much addition.
Mind you when Johnny Goggins brought young Coman home to join a very weak U21 panel he was told "We don't need your buck, we've loads of better players already".
Quote from: seafoid on September 02, 2017, 05:53:04 PM
A Culchie enclave should be carved out of Dublin. Singapore did it in reverse one time
Can you clarify more ref the Singapore analogy.
Quote from: Syferus on September 03, 2017, 12:03:33 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 02, 2017, 11:59:17 PM
Serious question - with the wealth of talent Dublin have on the bench, will there come a time when a fella (of non-dublin parents) who is say ~20th pick for the Dublin forwards gets to around 24 and realises he's not going to make it in Dublin and transfers to his parents county. Is it the kind of thing that might become commonplace?
Sure it's happening in Mayo even, a Ballyhaunis lad declaring for Clare this year. It's only going to happen with more regularity given Dublin are monopolizing all the money and coaching and producing way more senior IC level talent than any other county.
Is he not a nephew of the Clare manager?
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on September 02, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
In the run-up to the All Ireland final most Dublin schools will be displaying blue banners in support of the county team and many children will be wearing Dublin colours. Does anyone feel that this is acceptable or is it discriminatory towards children of non-Dublin parents?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets more money from the Gaa?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets to play all home games in the Championship?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to use the same dressing rooms in Croke Park?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to warm up under the Hill?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have the biggest sponsorship deals?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin media singled out Lee Keegan before last years AI Final?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have Abbotstown on their doorstep?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin is the centre where all the jobs are?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to play League semi-finals and Finals at home?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have all the advantages asked above and many more?
If all you have to worry about is a few culchies waving a few flags and wearing jerseys from other counties in your schools, you have little to be concerned about.
Grow to f... up I am a Tyrone man and this incessant Bla Bla Bla about the Dubs and their advantages is starting to piss me off it's up to the others to find the way. By the way I hope Mayo do find it but to post this crap is just childish. The Dubs are a great side simply because they have 30 fantastic dedicated footballers who have a savage hunger for celtic crosses.
You're not much of one if you'd defend Dublin warping the entire sport out of proportion.
Oh, it's been "warped out of proportion" plenty of times before and survived.
Quote from: SkillfulBill on September 02, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
In the run-up to the All Ireland final most Dublin schools will be displaying blue banners in support of the county team and many children will be wearing Dublin colours. Does anyone feel that this is acceptable or is it discriminatory towards children of non-Dublin parents?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets more money from the Gaa?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin gets to play all home games in the Championship?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to use the same dressing rooms in Croke Park?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to warm up under the Hill?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have the biggest sponsorship deals?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin media singled out Lee Keegan before last years AI Final?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have Abbotstown on their doorstep?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin is the centre where all the jobs are?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin get to play League semi-finals and Finals at home?
Do you feel it is discriminatory that Dublin have all the advantages asked above and many more?
If all you have to worry about is a few culchies waving a few flags and wearing jerseys from other counties in your schools, you have little to be concerned about.
Grow to f... up I am a Tyrone man and this incessant Bla Bla Bla about the Dubs and their advantages is starting to piss me off it's up to the others to find the way. By the way I hope Mayo do find it but to post this crap is just childish. The Dubs are a great side simply because they have 30 fantastic dedicated footballers who have a savage hunger for celtic crosses.
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