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Title: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on February 07, 2017, 08:18:44 PM
Hard to see anything other than a Kerry victory here.

Kerry won their opening game in the League for the first time since God was a boy last weekend in Donegal, and won pulling up by all accounts. By contrast, Mayo had their lunch money taken and their heads dunked in the toilet boil by the Farneymen in not-quite-Fortress Elvery's.

Paddy Power has Kerry priced at 2/1 on, and you'd have to say that's your nap for the weekend. Kerry's young guns were blooded against Donegal while the biggest cheer of the night in Castlebar came when the venerable Andy Moran came in the last ten minutes. Rochford ought to give youth its fling in Tralee. What's he got to lose?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:30:35 PM
Is Aidan O'Shea still injured?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2017, 08:36:32 PM
Don't know Jinxy. Hard to know if he would make that big a difference if he returned on Saturday night. If Mayo don't get anything from their next 2 games, it'll be a tough ending to the league I reckon. True, Mayo are not relegated yet or anything but we can't rely on other results to go our way on the last day yet again. Bar the first game of the final last year, Mayo have (in my opinion) sleepwalked their way through games under Rochford. Time to step up to the plate.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 07, 2017, 08:43:46 PM
The basis for Mayo's success (relative in that there's no AI yet) is that they have the ability to dominate sides in the middle of the pitch. I think they have completely dominated this sector against all the top teams in the majority of their games in the past 4/5 years.

Against Monaghan, without their first 4 or 5 first choice midfielders, they looked a really average outfit. Unless they have a few of them back for this trip, I can't look past a Kerry victory.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: From the Bunker on February 07, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
Mayo will more than likely be without (with) the same face as versus Monaghan. Kerry are usually a mess this time of year but this year they look to be flying. They certainly weren't just fulfilling the fixture in Letterkenny. Can't see anything more than a Kerry win under lights in a home venue. The League for us since 2010 has been a sort of hindrance. Our form sways from good to bad to terrible. We always seem to just want to stay in the Division with the least effort. In fairness, this attitude has not hindered us come Championship.

We are now getting to the rhetorical question of this team getting too old. Well the easy answer is yes! But a closer look will show that each year players have been added and let go since 2011. Aido, Leeroy, Dock, Vaughan, Parsons, Cillian, McLoughlin,  are in their prime. Harrison, Coen, Paddy Durcan and Diarmuid are only starting out. So there's a while longer in this group yet!
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2017, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.

Conor Loftus is injured.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: twohands!!! on February 07, 2017, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on February 07, 2017, 08:43:46 PM
The basis for Mayo's success (relative in that there's no AI yet) is that they have the ability to dominate sides in the middle of the pitch. I think they have completely dominated this sector against all the top teams in the majority of their games in the past 4/5 years.

Against Monaghan, without their first 4 or 5 first choice midfielders, they looked a really average outfit. Unless they have a few of them back for this trip, I can't look past a Kerry victory.

The thing is Kerry have Maher, Buckley, Sheehan and Donaghy all missing next weekend, so hardly over-stocked in terms of midfield options either. They had Morley starting there but he was moved to the half-back line after some rejigging when Enright got injured and a lad named Barry came on - he seemed ok enough but Moran was definitely the lad doing the heavy lifting and I think him tiring in the 2nd half was part of what left Donegal get some respectability on the score-board later on.

Donegal's midfield looked very ropey against Kerry - don't be surprised to see Murphy spending a huge amount of game-time in this sector this year as whenever he wasn't in the area, they just got destroyed. Defensively they looked nothing like they did under McGuinness - Kerry had to do very little work to create scoring chances. For me Donegal looked nailed on to be battling to avoid relegation and I'd say there main hope is in just staying up ahead of Cavan and Roscommon

Parsons will surely start for Mayo which should improve things in the midfield sector.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: macdanger2 on February 07, 2017, 10:18:14 PM
Yeah, I'd say Parsons will start at MF with Kirby with Vaughan dropping back (possibly to FB). You'd hope Mayo will be a bit sharper this week, there was a serious amount of balls that didn't stick in the forward line last Saturday which meant the ball was coming back out far too quick. It'd be great to see a bit of consistency from Regan & Freeman, both show flashes of quality followed by long stretches of anonymity.

Keith Higgins will probably be on JOD and I think he could be in bother, he's lost a half yard of pace since their battle in 2014 and I think he'd be best used further out the field. With our injuries in the FB line though, he'll probably have to stick it out there for another couple of matches. Eoin O'Donoghue might get a couple of games there later in the league, he looked very good for the U21s last year.

Doc will do well to hold his place, (I think he comes in for a lot of undue criticism from some Mayo supporters - he was our second top scorer from play last year) he was very poor the last day. DO'C might come in if he's fit although it'd be better to rest him if he's not

Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: rosnarun on February 08, 2017, 09:55:27 AM
is DO'C for Doc not a bit lik'e for like?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 02:45:47 PM
I'll say what I have been saying for the last while.
You are overloaded with talented attacking half-backs.
Take a couple of them and see if you can convert them into inside forwards.
There are plenty of precedents for this down through the years where lads who have played nearly all of their football up to u-21 and even senior level as defenders, subsequently turn out to be lethal forwards.
Pace and athleticism are more important than ever for the inside line in the modern game and yet this is where Mayo are the slowest and most ponderous.
Take that young fella Akram and stick him in the corner.
Has to be worth a try.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: joemamas on February 08, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.


Jinxy,

That is the core issue with Mayo, which I believe will come back to haunt us when this wonderful crop of physically dominant midfielders are put out to pasture.

Mayo won a minor in 2013 and U21 in 2016 ( the latter TBH had a lot to do with luck, we were due) Score line Mayo 5-7 Cork 1-13.
Mayo forwards scored 2pts from play that day. A midfielder scored one, other four from frees or a 50. Weather was good btw.
2015 Mayo Minors scored 1-3 V Galway in Connacht minor semi-final.
2016 Mayo minors scored 0-6 V Galway in Connacht final of 2016, (weather a factor).

Where am I going with this, IMO, our coaching of underage skills and I mean from U14 U16 upwards has been sub par at best. Somebody has to be responsible.
Compare us to Tyrone and Kerry just to mention two counties are in the upper tier of senior football at the moment.
We have done a horrible job of developing individual forward skills over past 7 to 8 years. The only true natural forward to come through from the minor ranks to senior in that period was Cillian O Connor. Not joking.
Check the teams for confirmation of this. His brother Diarmuid while an incredible footballer will most likely end up playing midfield.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: rosnarun on February 08, 2017, 04:19:52 PM
I think part of the issue is mayo GAA people Supporters officials and fans alike don't trust natural forwards . look at her amount of abuse
C motimer, AOM and Ciaran Mcdonald got over the years and to a lesser extent more lately Varley, Sweeney Ronaldson Conroy and now regan is becoming the boy we love to boo. next in line will be connor Loftus .
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 04:36:22 PM
If you could give Andy Moran a double leg transplant you'd be halfway there.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Brapbrap on February 08, 2017, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 04:36:22 PM
If you could give Andy Moran a double leg transplant you'd be halfway there.

What you mean?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 05:22:10 PM
I mean chop off his two legs and replace them with the legs of a much younger man.
Literally.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Brapbrap on February 08, 2017, 05:26:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 05:22:10 PM
I mean chop off his two legs and replace them with the legs of a much younger man.
Literally.

What if the young buck is shite?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 08, 2017, 05:29:13 PM
Makes no difference.
Andy's central nervous system will be calling the shots.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 08, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Well said joemamas. I agree that there must be something wrong with our forward coaching, be it at club underage, county development panels etc. I don't have the solution to our problem, but there must be someone out there that is developing good forward play at underage level somewhere. I agree with Jinxy that the inside line needs to have as much pace as any other line.. And as joemamas also said there will come a time when the older statesmen leave the stage.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 08, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.


Jinxy,

That is the core issue with Mayo, which I believe will come back to haunt us when this wonderful crop of physically dominant midfielders are put out to pasture.

Mayo won a minor in 2013 and U21 in 2016 ( the latter TBH had a lot to do with luck, we were due) Score line Mayo 5-7 Cork 1-13.
Mayo forwards scored 2pts from play that day. A midfielder scored one, other four from frees or a 50. Weather was good btw.
2015 Mayo Minors scored 1-3 V Galway in Connacht minor semi-final.
2016 Mayo minors scored 0-6 V Galway in Connacht final of 2016, (weather a factor).

Where am I going with this, IMO, our coaching of underage skills and I mean from U14 U16 upwards has been sub par at best. Somebody has to be responsible.
Compare us to Tyrone and Kerry just to mention two counties are in the upper tier of senior football at the moment.
We have done a horrible job of developing individual forward skills over past 7 to 8 years. The only true natural forward to come through from the minor ranks to senior in that period was Cillian O Connor. Not joking.
Check the teams for confirmation of this. His brother Diarmuid while an incredible footballer will most likely end up playing midfield.

Diarmuid O Connor played a few times at midfield at underage level without ever stand out there. His best position is where he currently plays a total team player and he has a great engine but he isn't scoring forward as some seem to think, even today playing for DCU in a game that went to extra time he didn't score at all.

I agree on the Andy Moran comment, now in his mid 30s he remains Mayos best scorer from play and he started the game out as a defender
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Crete Boom on February 08, 2017, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 08, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.


Jinxy,

That is the core issue with Mayo, which I believe will come back to haunt us when this wonderful crop of physically dominant midfielders are put out to pasture.

Mayo won a minor in 2013 and U21 in 2016 ( the latter TBH had a lot to do with luck, we were due) Score line Mayo 5-7 Cork 1-13.
Mayo forwards scored 2pts from play that day. A midfielder scored one, other four from frees or a 50. Weather was good btw.
2015 Mayo Minors scored 1-3 V Galway in Connacht minor semi-final.
2016 Mayo minors scored 0-6 V Galway in Connacht final of 2016, (weather a factor).

Where am I going with this, IMO, our coaching of underage skills and I mean from U14 U16 upwards has been sub par at best. Somebody has to be responsible.
Compare us to Tyrone and Kerry just to mention two counties are in the upper tier of senior football at the moment.
We have done a horrible job of developing individual forward skills over past 7 to 8 years. The only true natural forward to come through from the minor ranks to senior in that period was Cillian O Connor. Not joking.
Check the teams for confirmation of this. His brother Diarmuid while an incredible footballer will most likely end up playing midfield.

Diarmuid O Connor played a few times at midfield at underage level without ever stand out there. His best position is where he currently plays a total team player and he has a great engine but he isn't scoring forward as some seem to think, even today playing for DCU in a game that went to extra time he didn't score at all.

I agree on the Andy Moran comment, now in his mid 30s he remains Mayos best scorer from play and he started the game out as a defender

He started out as a forward coming on in a few games in 2004 as a corner forward. He captained the U21's that year from half forward. He then bounced between half forward and corner forward till 2009 where he played championship at no 7. He was back to the forwards for 2010.

Kevin McLoughlin started life as a half back moving to the half-forward line under Horan.

I agree with Jinxy and we should try Akram in the full forward line for a few league games at least.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 08, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 08, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Well said joemamas. I agree that there must be something wrong with our forward coaching, be it at club underage, county development panels etc. I don't have the solution to our problem, but there must be someone out there that is developing good forward play at underage level somewhere. I agree with Jinxy that the inside line needs to have as much pace as any other line.. And as joemamas also said there will come a time when the older statesmen leave the stage.

It's a tough one. But it is often down to players that are good enough being around. Some things cant be coached. Attitude, size, speed.
Lets take Keith Ruttledge. Attitude is very good. Very clever, quick, can see a pass and can score. He is probably not considered good enough because of size.
Then take Liam Irwin. Has the size and technically brilliant for a big lad. Match temperament is very good. Can score from play and frees. However he is not blessed with pace and his conditioning is not great.
We usually do alright with player type from 5-12 but not sure that is because we have good coaches that produce those type either. We have a lot of players in the county and a big pick.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2017, 10:27:33 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 08, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.


Jinxy,

That is the core issue with Mayo, which I believe will come back to haunt us when this wonderful crop of physically dominant midfielders are put out to pasture.

Mayo won a minor in 2013 and U21 in 2016 ( the latter TBH had a lot to do with luck, we were due) Score line Mayo 5-7 Cork 1-13.
Mayo forwards scored 2pts from play that day. A midfielder scored one, other four from frees or a 50. Weather was good btw.
2015 Mayo Minors scored 1-3 V Galway in Connacht minor semi-final.
2016 Mayo minors scored 0-6 V Galway in Connacht final of 2016, (weather a factor).

Where am I going with this, IMO, our coaching of underage skills and I mean from U14 U16 upwards has been sub par at best. Somebody has to be responsible.
Compare us to Tyrone and Kerry just to mention two counties are in the upper tier of senior football at the moment.
We have done a horrible job of developing individual forward skills over past 7 to 8 years. The only true natural forward to come through from the minor ranks to senior in that period was Cillian O Connor. Not joking.
Check the teams for confirmation of this. His brother Diarmuid while an incredible footballer will most likely end up playing midfield.

There was an interesting piece with Geaney on OTB where he talked about practising for hours on his own, basically jinking and shooting. It's definitely paying off for him and I'd imagine that it'd improve anyone's forward play if they did it from a young age (or even any age)

Even if we can't find a Geaney / McManus, I definitely think the movement and interplay between our forwards can be improved. Too often, our forwards play as individuals rather than as a unit.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2017, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 08, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
Any promising forwards coming out of the last couple of u-21 teams?
Time for Regan to step up this year, looks good in flashes.


Jinxy,

That is the core issue with Mayo, which I believe will come back to haunt us when this wonderful crop of physically dominant midfielders are put out to pasture.

Mayo won a minor in 2013 and U21 in 2016 ( the latter TBH had a lot to do with luck, we were due) Score line Mayo 5-7 Cork 1-13.
Mayo forwards scored 2pts from play that day. A midfielder scored one, other four from frees or a 50. Weather was good btw.
2015 Mayo Minors scored 1-3 V Galway in Connacht minor semi-final.
2016 Mayo minors scored 0-6 V Galway in Connacht final of 2016, (weather a factor).

Where am I going with this, IMO, our coaching of underage skills and I mean from U14 U16 upwards has been sub par at best. Somebody has to be responsible.
Compare us to Tyrone and Kerry just to mention two counties are in the upper tier of senior football at the moment.
We have done a horrible job of developing individual forward skills over past 7 to 8 years. The only true natural forward to come through from the minor ranks to senior in that period was Cillian O Connor. Not joking.
Check the teams for confirmation of this. His brother Diarmuid while an incredible footballer will most likely end up playing midfield.

Diarmuid O Connor played a few times at midfield at underage level without ever stand out there. His best position is where he currently plays a total team player and he has a great engine but he isn't scoring forward as some seem to think, even today playing for DCU in a game that went to extra time he didn't score at all.

I agree on the Andy Moran comment, now in his mid 30s he remains Mayos best scorer from play and he started the game out as a defender

Midfield is a completely different position at senior level (where there are relatively few long kickouts) than it is at underage (where there's still a good percentage of long kickouts)
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2017, 10:37:04 AM
I assume the Kerry 26 and the Mayo 15 will be announced today sometime.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: mayo.mick on February 10, 2017, 11:09:58 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2017, 10:37:04 AM
I assume the Kerry 26 and the Mayo 15 will be announced today sometime.

Mayo 15 probably named around bedtime tonight
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Parsons in for Kirby the only change for Mayo.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2017, 11:48:11 PM
KERRY: Brian Kelly; Ronan Shanahan, Mark Griffin, Killian Young; Jonathan Lyne, Peter Crowley, Tadhg Morley; David Moran, Jack Barry; Adrian Spillane, Paul Murphy, Donnchadh Walsh; Jack Savage, Paul Geaney, James O'Donoghue.

MAYO: David Clarke; Donie Newcombe, Keith Higgins, Paddy Durcan; Colm Boyle, Stephen Coen, David Drake; Donal Vaughan, Tom Parsons; Fergal Boland, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty; Evan Regan, Alan Freeman, Cillian O'Connor.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 11, 2017, 07:00:28 PM
Did Mayo bring their training kit instead of away jersey to Tralee?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: highorlow on February 11, 2017, 07:07:36 PM
Are we on the Tele? Which channel?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2017, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: highorlow on February 11, 2017, 07:07:36 PM
Are we on the Tele? Which channel?
Eir sport 2 Hd channel 424.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: highorlow on February 11, 2017, 07:13:04 PM
Can't seem to get that one on me app.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Tubberman on February 11, 2017, 07:21:52 PM
Quote from: highorlow on February 11, 2017, 07:13:04 PM
Can't seem to get that one on me app.

Check under Premier Sports
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2017, 07:38:47 PM
Kerry 1-7 Mayo 0-6 half time. Kerry should be out of sight but Mayo are hanging in there.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2017, 07:43:58 PM
Any link?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: maigheo on February 11, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
Mayo beaten all over the field.Only Andy Moran winning his battle.Could be a long 2ind half for Mayo.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2017, 08:06:49 PM
10 minutes into the 2nd half Mayo much improved and the game is there to be won if they want it. 1-8 to 0-9.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: maigheo on February 11, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Good win in the end and good to get 2 points in the bag
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2017, 08:44:08 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: macdanger2 on February 11, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
Didn't watch it but great to get 2 points. Any reports?
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: highorlow on February 11, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
Thanks tubberman, I got the best half. Nice win for us. Another win and a draw will do us for this shadow boxing competition.

All we learned from that is that Hughes is the worst ref in the country, made a haims of the match.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2017, 08:59:30 PM
No wonder Kerry lost,
according to RTE, Kerry also had a team  in Croke PK hanging on for dear life against the Dubs.

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s31/geithals/nfl.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/geithals/media/nfl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2017, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 11, 2017, 08:59:30 PM
No wonder Kerry lost,
according to RTE, Kerry also had a team  in Croke PK hanging on for dear life against the Dubs.

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s31/geithals/nfl.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/geithals/media/nfl.jpg.html)

Most of that Donnybrook crowd are on the piss after the Rugby win today.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2017, 10:58:04 PM

A pleasant surprise. A massive win against the head away from home.

For most of the first half we looked like we were going to get killed, and we might have been if Kerry were not knocked off their stride by injuries. The response in the second half was very heartening however.
I think tonight showed that we cannot afford the luxury of keeping Andy Moran as an impact sub. I'm struggling to remember any Mayo full-forward playing as well as he did tonight. He's well fit for a full game as well. Start him every time I would. If he had not started tonight we would not have won, simple as.
If Parsons got the straight red, like I think he did, we are going to be scraping for midfielder for the next game. However I thought Nally did well when he came on. Vaughan however seems to have lost a yard of pace and is struggling.
Eoin O Donoghue looked interested and aggressive when he came on too.
Anyway, good 2 points to get.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Avondhu star on February 11, 2017, 11:05:51 PM
Good win for Mayo. Kerry looked strong last week against Donegal but to allow Mayo back into the game tonight will raise a few eyebrows. Clarke pulled off a few good saves again which will raise the question of what was all that shite about goalkeepers that went on last year
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 11, 2017, 10:58:04 PM

A pleasant surprise. A massive win against the head away from home.

For most of the first half we looked like we were going to get killed, and we might have been if Kerry were not knocked off their stride by injuries. The response in the second half was very heartening however.
I think tonight showed that we cannot afford the luxury of keeping Andy Moran as an impact sub. I'm struggling to remember any Mayo full-forward playing as well as he did tonight. He's well fit for a full game as well. Start him every time I would. If he had not started tonight we would not have won, simple as.
If Parsons got the straight red, like I think he did, we are going to be scraping for midfielder for the next game. However I thought Nally did well when he came on. Vaughan however seems to have lost a yard of pace and is struggling.
Eoin O Donoghue looked interested and aggressive when he came on too.
Anyway, good 2 points to get.

Oh, he better fûcking start the next game.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2017, 11:28:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 11, 2017, 10:58:04 PM

A pleasant surprise. A massive win against the head away from home.

For most of the first half we looked like we were going to get killed, and we might have been if Kerry were not knocked off their stride by injuries. The response in the second half was very heartening however.
I think tonight showed that we cannot afford the luxury of keeping Andy Moran as an impact sub. I'm struggling to remember any Mayo full-forward playing as well as he did tonight. He's well fit for a full game as well. Start him every time I would. If he had not started tonight we would not have won, simple as.
If Parsons got the straight red, like I think he did, we are going to be scraping for midfielder for the next game. However I thought Nally did well when he came on. Vaughan however seems to have lost a yard of pace and is struggling.
Eoin O Donoghue looked interested and aggressive when he came on too.
Anyway, good 2 points to get.

Oh, he better fûcking start the next game.

On reflection, we might be able to rest him for next game.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2017, 11:36:12 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on February 11, 2017, 11:05:51 PM
Good win for Mayo. Kerry looked strong last week against Donegal but to allow Mayo back into the game tonight will raise a few eyebrows. Clarke pulled off a few good saves again which will raise the question of what was all that shite about goalkeepers that went on last year

That shite about goalkeepers will be talked around Mayo as long as football is played in the county.

I think Mayo played their way into the game tonight after sleep walking into the game at the start. Other teams will not be as sympathetic if we continue to start like that.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 11, 2017, 11:56:32 PM
Just watched the deferred game there. Thought Parsons was unlucky to get a straight red to be honest, however I'm not the linesman who saw what was happening. Nice to get the 2 points. Andy was class, won nearly every ball played into him. Nice to get the 2 points. Up Mayo.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Tubberman on February 12, 2017, 08:07:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 11, 2017, 10:58:04 PM

A pleasant surprise. A massive win against the head away from home.

For most of the first half we looked like we were going to get killed, and we might have been if Kerry were not knocked off their stride by injuries. The response in the second half was very heartening however.
I think tonight showed that we cannot afford the luxury of keeping Andy Moran as an impact sub. I'm struggling to remember any Mayo full-forward playing as well as he did tonight. He's well fit for a full game as well. Start him every time I would. If he had not started tonight we would not have won, simple as.
If Parsons got the straight red, like I think he did, we are going to be scraping for midfielder for the next game. However I thought Nally did well when he came on. Vaughan however seems to have lost a yard of pace and is struggling.
Eoin O Donoghue looked interested and aggressive when he came on too.
Anyway, good 2 points to get.

Oh, he better fûcking start the next game.
Downpour own sake, you'd want to hope he's rested. He beat ye a few weeks ago in less than 10 mins, god help ye if he played a full 70!
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 12, 2017, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Soft red too. I cant see what Parsons did to see a straight red and nobody else got any colour from the row. Even David Moran seemed bemused. I could swear he says ' what's that for?' from looking at the incident there again. Appeal it.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: magpie seanie on February 12, 2017, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Parsons in for Kirby the only change for Mayo.

Nice for Tom to finally get to wear the black of his native county at intercounty level last night. He must have got overexcited by it though and got sent off.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:37:35 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 12, 2017, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Soft red too. I cant see what Parsons did to see a straight red and nobody else got any colour from the row. Even David Moran seemed bemused. I could swear he says ' what's that for?' from looking at the incident there again. Appeal it.

Yeah, didn't seem to have done anything worse than others involved in the schemozzle
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2017, 10:41:45 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Wouldn't even have been a free if it happened out the field.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 12, 2017, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 12, 2017, 10:41:45 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Wouldn't even have been a free if it happened out the field.

Wouldn't have been a penalty either if it happened other end of the field.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: From the Bunker on February 12, 2017, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 12, 2017, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Soft red too. I cant see what Parsons did to see a straight red and nobody else got any colour from the row. Even David Moran seemed bemused. I could swear he says ' what's that for?' from looking at the incident there again. Appeal it.

I'd sit on my hands! Take the hit! It's only the League. These kind of things tend to come back later if you question the authorities.

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Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2017, 11:25:10 AM
Had the Dublin game the TV and Mayo on the laptop so was flicking between games. Looked like Andy Moran had a great game, he's showing no signs of slowing down and is hugely important to Mayo. Didn't see anything though to suggest they've found any new forwards, Boland is getting game time so must be doing enough to impress Rochford in training.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 13, 2017, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 12, 2017, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Soft red too. I cant see what Parsons did to see a straight red and nobody else got any colour from the row. Even David Moran seemed bemused. I could swear he says ' what's that for?' from looking at the incident there again. Appeal it.

Agree. Nothing to lose really.
Title: Re: Kerry v Mayo, February 11, Austin Stack Park, Tralee
Post by: moysider on February 13, 2017, 11:53:07 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 13, 2017, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 12, 2017, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Christ, that was a soft penalty

Soft red too. I cant see what Parsons did to see a straight red and nobody else got any colour from the row. Even David Moran seemed bemused. I could swear he says ' what's that for?' from looking at the incident there again. Appeal it.

Agree. Nothing to lose really.

Two ways to look at it I suppose. Don't make a fuss, it's only the league and we don't want to go upsetting the man. On the other hand if you just accept a decision like that then you will keep getting rode when you play likes of Kerry and Dublin. Cormac Reilly and Maurice Deegan have shown us how it works in recent years.
I wonder who the patsy linesman was and how/why he singled out Parsons? There were others swinging and throwing shapes as well.