Hope the newer players can step up and be competitive. Hard to see anything other than a Dublin win in this one. Just missing too many key men in my opinion
Ahh I know we are up against because of all the players missing, late managerial appointment etc etc . We are obviously a few weeks behind but you never know on the night , try and keep it as tight as we can at the back , clog it up , leave aido on the square with Regan playing off the breaking ball and see what happens.
Big game, 15 k expected , fekin hell I'll miss these nights if this is the end of an era like a lot are saying .
http://www.mayonews.ie/news/27173-big-windfall-expected-for-dublin-game?utm_content=buffere1c93&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
The result here is dependent on how much Dublin want to win by. In other words, will they take the foot off the pedal at some stage. Can't see any other result. Not to worry. As the commentators on Radio Kerry said on Saturday night - it's only january. (Except its February now!)
Quote from: larryin89 on February 02, 2016, 08:41:05 PM
Ahh I know we are up against because of all the players missing, late managerial appointment etc etc . We are obviously a few weeks behind but you never know on the night , try and keep it as tight as we can at the back , clog it up , leave aido on the square with Regan playing off the breaking ball and see what happens.
Big game, 15 k expected , fekin hell I'll miss these nights if this is the end of an era like a lot are saying .
http://www.mayonews.ie/news/27173-big-windfall-expected-for-dublin-game?utm_content=buffere1c93&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
It's great isn't it. I won't make the game because I have 'ahem' entertaining to do. Raging I'll miss it. As you said anything can happen on the night, but I just feel we're missing too many players to get the win. Especially when you look at Dublin's bench as well.
One of the big things needed from Mayos perspective is leadership on the field. That was badly lacking in Cork. For instance everyone is giving out about Regan missing that free from circa 40 yards out in the first half. But no one mentions that he had to take it out of his hands into a very strong breeze lowering the % accuracy rate significantly. Why didn't someone (one of the more seasoned players) signal for Hennelly to come up and attempt those long range kicks into the wind especially as he can have more accuracy off the ground with a lower trajectory.
Unfortunately we didn't have that leadership in the forwards last week especially after KMac went off. Everyone left was virtually a newbie (including DO'Connor) or somewhat more a fringe player e.g. Doherty or just back in the fold e.g. Gibbons. Aidan O'Shea will have to take up that mantle of directing what is going on.
Hopefully he has the wherewithal to make the correct calls at the right times.
Any bus's travelling down Saturday and returning Sat night from Dublin? A few people have been in touch with us, any info we'll pass it on thanks.
Hard to be optimistic about this one under the circumstances. This is certainly a baptism of fire for the new management but it's early days and the reality is this squad will struggle until a few return and everybody gets up to speed.
No need for panic. Not the first time we were horsed by Cork in the league and it wasn't the end of the world. I remember a much worse scutching/humiliation by a 14 man Donegal in 2012 and we turned out the better of it. Nobody would have thought we'd make an AI final that day.
Anyway let's see how Cork get on above in Donegal this weekend.
Only a few weeks ago a fairly strong Dublin line up were beaten by Longford. They looked good against Kerry on Saturday night however Kerry weren't long back from their holidays.
Mayo players need to respond after that terrible display in Cork and I think the game in Castlebar on Saturday night will be a competitive one.
Jesus, are we THAT pessimistic we don't even want to talk about it?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
Jesus, are we THAT pessimistic we don't even want to talk about it?
Yes we are.
Dubs by 10 plus.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
Jesus, are we THAT pessimistic we don't even want to talk about it?
The hammering Dublin gave Mayo last year in Castlebar, probaly fresh in the memory.
Paddy P odds
19:00Mayo v Dublin 7/2 10/1 2/7
Says it all.
Are kids free into league games , I thought there was a five euro admission fee this year. Used spare season tickets last week so I didn't notice .
Mayo by four......teen :D
Any word on teams?
Hennelly, Harrison, Cafferkey, Crowe, Vaughan, Boyle, Nally, Parsons, Gibbons, COS, AOS, DOC, Regan, Doherty, Sweeney. 8 that started the All Ireland semi final by my count.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2016, 08:39:42 PM
Hennelly, Harrison, Cafferkey, Crowe, Vaughan, Boyle, Nally, Parsons, Gibbons, COS, AOS, DOC, Regan, Doherty, Sweeney. 8 that started the All Ireland semi final by my count.
Missing starters from Semi
K Higgins, C Barrett; L Keegan, B Moran, S O'Shea, K McLoughlin, C O'Connor
Missing subs from semi
P Durcan, A Moran,S Coen,
A lot of regulars and semi regulars missing. To pick a positive out of it, there is no choice but to look at a few new faces. You have to fancy the Dubs. With it being a home game, its important for the crowd to get behind the team from the start and on the referees back.
Dubs name the same team as last week.
Cluxton
Cooper
Fitzsimons
Byrne
McCarthy
Small
Byrne
O'Sullivan
Bastick
Brady
Connolly
Kilkenny
Andrews
Rock
Mannion
Could Keith Ruttledge not get a trial instead of Mikey Sweeney? Good half forward line though.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2016, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2016, 08:39:42 PM
Hennelly, Harrison, Cafferkey, Crowe, Vaughan, Boyle, Nally, Parsons, Gibbons, COS, AOS, DOC, Regan, Doherty, Sweeney. 8 that started the All Ireland semi final by my count.
Missing starters from Semi
K Higgins, C Barrett; L Keegan, B Moran, S O'Shea, K McLoughlin, C O'Connor
Missing subs from semi
P Durcan, A Moran,S Coen,
A lot of regulars and semi regulars missing. To pick a positive out of it, there is no choice but to look at a few new faces. You have to fancy the Dubs. With it being a home game, its important for the crowd to get behind the team from the start and on the referees back.
Dublin without championship starters R O'Carroll, P McMahon J McCaffrey B Fenton, P Flynn; B Brogan
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2016, 09:23:10 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2016, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2016, 08:39:42 PM
Hennelly, Harrison, Cafferkey, Crowe, Vaughan, Boyle, Nally, Parsons, Gibbons, COS, AOS, DOC, Regan, Doherty, Sweeney. 8 that started the All Ireland semi final by my count.
Missing starters from Semi
K Higgins, C Barrett; L Keegan, B Moran, S O'Shea, K McLoughlin, C O'Connor
Missing subs from semi
P Durcan, A Moran,S Coen,
A lot of regulars and semi regulars missing. To pick a positive out of it, there is no choice but to look at a few new faces. You have to fancy the Dubs. With it being a home game, its important for the crowd to get behind the team from the start and on the referees back.
Dublin without championship starters R O'Carroll, P McMahon J McCaffrey B Fenton, P Flynn; B Brogan
A decent bunch missing there also!
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2016, 09:23:10 PM
Dublin without championship starters R O'Carroll, P McMahon J McCaffrey B Fenton, P Flynn; B Brogan
'Nowt to say they won't appear off the bench, apart from O'Carroll.
The Dubs are gonna be in trouble with that team....
It's a rough start to the year. Cunniffe, Higgins, Keegan, Barrett, Durcan, Keane with Cafferkey, Boyle and Vaughan arguably our top 9 defenders. Only the last 3 available. And that's just the issues in the backs.
At least others are getting valuable experience but it's only good experience if the team is competitive. The trick for the new management is to get a competitive performance from what they have.
Quote from: Beffs on February 05, 2016, 09:14:51 PM
Dubs name the same team as last week.
Cluxton
Cooper
Fitzsimons
Byrne
McCarthy
Small
Byrne
O'Sullivan
Bastick
Brady
Connolly
Kilkenny
Andrews
Rock
Mannion
That's last week's team. We won't know this week's team until shortly before throw in. Fitzsimons, Byrne and Mannion all played Sigerson mid week, as did McCaffrey, so that may impact on their selection. I'd expect McMahon to come in. And one or two younger lads such as O Conghaile, Costello, Reddin, Carthy might be in contention
Dublin do have great strength in depth with some great u21 and minor stars waiting in the wings for a chance
Whats the weather like down in Castlebar????????????????
Dire
I reckon this could be a much closer match than a lot of people think.
One point each, poor free taking by both sides so far.
Conditions, pitch and ref terrible. Joke of a black card in 3rd minute for phily McMahon. Mayo no 15 first player I''ve seen this season to do a tiernan mccann. Mayo no 12 dives through the air to take out James McCarthy and nothing happens
This site still provides a good quality stream
http://nowwatchtvlive.me/setanta-ireland-live-stream-watch-setanta-sports-channel-online/ (http://nowwatchtvlive.me/setanta-ireland-live-stream-watch-setanta-sports-channel-online/)
Mayo fairly wound up tonight. Think I saw two spears earlier and one rock bottom just there. Dublin playing at more traditional ambling league pace.
The Dubs aren't happy with the length of the grass in Castlebar.
Wait till they see the Hyde in April.
Enjoyable game, I get nervous when AOS starts to solo the ball :)
The Mayo blanket defense has worked a treat and with the advantage of the wind to come Mayo will have a good opportunity to win this game.
10 mins to go. Mayo 0-5 Dublin 0-7 hard to pick a winner.
That's what you'd call a good wide there for Dublin
Awful game of football. Pitch was a bog and stopped Dublin playing their free flowing game. Mayo really psyched upfor tonight some of the players though lost the heads. Colm Boyle was a red card waiting to happen all night. Lost the heads for 1st yellow and started row for his 2nd.
James McCarthy best player in the pitch. was playing a different sport to everyone else. Conditions seemed to have no effect on his performance
Excellent win for Dublin.
Played absolutely shite and still won
Infinitely better than last week, showed good effort considering our fitness levels are behind Dublin's. Didn't cough up any goal chances. DOC was excellent I thought, serious engine on him. Good to see Higgins back too.
That last Dublin point was clearly wide, poor from the umpire.
Quote from: INDIANA on February 06, 2016, 08:48:55 PM
Excellent win for Dublin.
Played absolutely shite and still won
Fair assessment
A big improvement from Mayo.
The Dubs did well to do just enough.
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2016, 08:57:46 PM
A big improvement from Mayo.
The Dubs did well to do just enough.
Dublin are doing one night at week at present. We've barely put the car in first.
brutal weather make it a poor enough game, All-Ireland intermediate final was the best game on the day.
Good disciplined display from Mayo. Young lads stuck at it and fair play to them. Boyler set tone of not taking sh1te. This had to be done. Dublin who half cared about the game would have ran a muck otherwise. Tonight was all about the fight for Mayo with so many key players missing and we at least gave that. Tonight was not about entertainment but containment. The last thing we needed was to play football and get hockeyed and the young lads to leave with a bad experience.
Dublin had a point given that was clearly wide. Can't fathom why the linesman on our side who could see that it was, did not flag it to the referee? Maybe he does not have the power. Anyway made no difference, thenk god!
Cafferkey MOTM.
Our forwards were not in it and we can't get the best outta Aido in the Full forward line against the Dubs.
Still a positive performance and kudos to Rochford and Co.
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Good disciplined display from Mayo. Young lads stuck at it and fair play to them. Boyler set tone of not taking sh1te. This had to be done. Dublin who half cared about the game would have ran a muck otherwise. Tonight was all about the fight for Mayo with so many key players missing and we at least gave that. Tonight was not about entertainment but containment. The last thing we needed was to play football and get hockeyed and the young lads to leave with a bad experience.
Dublin had a point given that was clearly wide. Can't fathom why the linesman on our side who could see that it was, did not flag it to the referee? Maybe he does not have the power. Anyway made no difference, thenk god!
Cafferkey MOTM.
Our forwards were not in it and we can't get the best outta Aido in the Full forward line against the Dubs.
Still a positive performance and kudos to Rochford and Co.
Agree. It was reassuring to see management able to set us up defensively with so many of our top defenders not available.
Kicked too much early hopeful ball into our forwards when we may have done better holding on and being patient and probing for openings. All we did was give the ball back to Dubs. Dublin kept possession and were patient and probed for openings and get enough to win the game.
Still plenty of positives for us. As well as Caff and Boyle, Harrison was very good. Hall had a good debut as well in difficult conditions.
Higgins back as well. However Parsons appeared to pick up a strain of some sort. Gibbons did well when he came on too.
Our transition from defence to attack has been an issue but there's time to work things out. If we don t, wins in this league will be hard to come by.
Transition is thee buzzword.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Lol.
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Lol.
He was a selector for Evans the last three years. Must have fancied our chances this coming year so :-X
Mayo can dress it up all they want but they have a great middle third, the best half-backs in Ireland and dodgy inside lines at both ends of the field. Even COC still struggles to make enough of an impact from play. His brother has potential but it's little more than that right now.
The strange thing is even with those obvious flaws Mayo would be the second test team in Ireland by any metric you'd want to apply.
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2016, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Lol.
He was a selector for Evans the last three years. Must have fancied our chances this coming year so :-X
Mayo can dress it up all they want but they have a great middle third, the best half-backs in Ireland and dodgy inside lines at both ends of the field. Even COC still struggles to make enough of an impact from play. His brother has potential but it's little more than that right now.
The strange thing is even with those obvious flaws Mayo would be the second test team in Ireland by any metric you'd want to apply.
Ah, people look to much to perfection to win titles. You don't need 15 Brilliant players to win a title. You need a good mix! Every title winning team has had weaknesses. The good ones are good at hiding them and working to their strengths.
And Sheerin was an excellent goalkeeper in his day. Always remember some Irish Banks ad on the telly back in the day and they had a clip of him fully stretched doing a point blank save. (The pun was you had to get saving!)
Think the clip used was at 3:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmUjvbuXdw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmUjvbuXdw)
I was at the game, I think on a dry day Dubs would have won by six or seven. Mayo doubled up on the Dublin forwards which left no space in there at all, but at the same time Mayo had nothing to offer up front themselves. Dublin seemed quite happy to run down the clock with hand passing and were never really in trouble. It was a physical match because of the weather no one was letting the ball long it was all possession hand passing and also because Mayo were crowding out the dubs up front.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2016, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Lol.
He was a selector for Evans the last three years. Must have fancied our chances this coming year so :-X
Mayo can dress it up all they want but they have a great middle third, the best half-backs in Ireland and dodgy inside lines at both ends of the field. Even COC still struggles to make enough of an impact from play. His brother has potential but it's little more than that right now.
The strange thing is even with those obvious flaws Mayo would be the second test team in Ireland by any metric you'd want to apply.
Ah, people look to much to perfection to win titles. You don't need 15 Brilliant players to win a title. You need a good mix! Every title winning team has had weaknesses. The good ones are good at hiding them and working to their strengths.
And Sheerin was an excellent goalkeeper in his day. Always remember some Irish Banks ad on the telly back in the day and they had a clip of him fully stretched doing a point blank save. (The pun was you had to get saving!)
Gay was on the team in the Earley years and still on the panel when Duggan was kicking frees from another postcode in the early 90s. He was also manager in 1998 for those two epic Connacht finals when Galway's AI bandwagon was almost wrecked before it started. Some servant to Roscommon football.
Anyways, expected result this evening, even if the manner of it was a little strange. The Donegal game after the break will be the pivotal one for Mayo. Lose that and ye might be coming to the Hyde for a relegation playoff.
Quote from: Kurtz on February 06, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
I was at the game, I think on a dry day Dubs would have won by six or seven. Mayo doubled up on the Dublin forwards which left no space in there at all, but at the same time Mayo had nothing to offer up front themselves. Dublin seemed quite happy to run down the clock with hand passing and were never really in trouble. It was a physical match because of the weather no one was letting the ball long it was all possession hand passing and also because Mayo were crowding out the dubs up front.
Nah. The difference was that Dublin were patient and kept possession and probed for openings. Mayo forwards were also doubled up and crowded out. Dublin forwards offered nothing either. The match winning scores came from keep ball and probing runs from likes of McCaffrey, Cooper and McCarty. Mayo were silly and wasted good turn over possession on speculative ball into outnumbered forwards in brutal conditions. It was silly stuff. But to be expected maybe. Established team/management and assured plays v a team that's starting all over again. Mayo improved a lot in a week but lacked composure at times.
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2016, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Lol.
He was a selector for Evans the last three years. Must have fancied our chances this coming year so :-X
Mayo can dress it up all they want but they have a great middle third, the best half-backs in Ireland and dodgy inside lines at both ends of the field. Even COC still struggles to make enough of an impact from play. His brother has potential but it's little more than that right now.
The strange thing is even with those obvious flaws Mayo would be the second test team in Ireland by any metric you'd want to apply.
It's a mystery, isn't it? ::)
I wonder if Kerry (with their 2014 AI win & 2015 AI final appearance) would have something to say about Mayo being the 2nd best team in the country? ::)
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: Kurtz on February 06, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
I was at the game, I think on a dry day Dubs would have won by six or seven. Mayo doubled up on the Dublin forwards which left no space in there at all, but at the same time Mayo had nothing to offer up front themselves. Dublin seemed quite happy to run down the clock with hand passing and were never really in trouble. It was a physical match because of the weather no one was letting the ball long it was all possession hand passing and also because Mayo were crowding out the dubs up front.
Nah. The difference was that Dublin were patient and kept possession and probed for openings. Mayo forwards were also doubled up and crowded out. Dublin forwards offered nothing either. The match winning scores came from keep ball and probing runs from likes of McCaffrey, Cooper and McCarty. Mayo were silly and wasted good turn over possession on speculative ball into outnumbered forwards in brutal conditions. It was silly stuff. But to be expected maybe. Established team/management and assured plays v a team that's starting all over again. Mayo improved a lot in a week but lacked composure at times.
Dublin can only beat themselves this year . It's an exceptional bunch of players that won't be seen again . Quite impressed with Mayo . Second best team out there by some distance . They'll get there soon enough . Could be this year.
Quote from: INDIANA on February 07, 2016, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: Kurtz on February 06, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
I was at the game, I think on a dry day Dubs would have won by six or seven. Mayo doubled up on the Dublin forwards which left no space in there at all, but at the same time Mayo had nothing to offer up front themselves. Dublin seemed quite happy to run down the clock with hand passing and were never really in trouble. It was a physical match because of the weather no one was letting the ball long it was all possession hand passing and also because Mayo were crowding out the dubs up front.
Nah. The difference was that Dublin were patient and kept possession and probed for openings. Mayo forwards were also doubled up and crowded out. Dublin forwards offered nothing either. The match winning scores came from keep ball and probing runs from likes of McCaffrey, Cooper and McCarty. Mayo were silly and wasted good turn over possession on speculative ball into outnumbered forwards in brutal conditions. It was silly stuff. But to be expected maybe. Established team/management and assured plays v a team that's starting all over again. Mayo improved a lot in a week but lacked composure at times.
Dublin can only beat themselves this year . It's an exceptional bunch of players that won't be seen again . Quite impressed with Mayo . Second best team out there by some distance . They'll get there soon enough . Could be this year.
Not sure about a team beating itself. But Dublin are clearly streets ahead, and unlikely to mess up imo.
As regards Mayo, I dunno? This management has a huge responsibility. Dublin players managed the game and conditions so well this evening. Mayo were better clued in from Cork and the effort could not be faulted but decision making at times was flawed. Address that and we might be ok.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on February 07, 2016, 12:19:37 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2016, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Was talking to Gay Sheerin (former Rossie Goalkeeper legend) after the game. I asked him if there was anything to worry him from the Mayo performance? And he said emphatically No! Mayo have no forwards and they don't look like they will find any!
Lol.
He was a selector for Evans the last three years. Must have fancied our chances this coming year so :-X
Mayo can dress it up all they want but they have a great middle third, the best half-backs in Ireland and dodgy inside lines at both ends of the field. Even COC still struggles to make enough of an impact from play. His brother has potential but it's little more than that right now.
The strange thing is even with those obvious flaws Mayo would be the second test team in Ireland by any metric you'd want to apply.
It's a mystery, isn't it? ::)
That would depend on the understanding of the metric involved. wouldn't it?
Once one understands the metric that's involved, then there isn't that much mystery, is there?
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Quote from: moysider on February 06, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: Kurtz on February 06, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
I was at the game, I think on a dry day Dubs would have won by six or seven. Mayo doubled up on the Dublin forwards which left no space in there at all, but at the same time Mayo had nothing to offer up front themselves. Dublin seemed quite happy to run down the clock with hand passing and were never really in trouble. It was a physical match because of the weather no one was letting the ball long it was all possession hand passing and also because Mayo were crowding out the dubs up front.
Nah. The difference was that Dublin were patient and kept possession and probed for openings. Mayo forwards were also doubled up and crowded out. Dublin forwards offered nothing either. The match winning scores came from keep ball and probing runs from likes of McCaffrey, Cooper and McCarty. Mayo were silly and wasted good turn over possession on speculative ball into outnumbered forwards in brutal conditions. It was silly stuff. But to be expected maybe. Established team/management and assured plays v a team that's starting all over again. Mayo improved a lot in a week but lacked composure at times.
Dublin can only beat themselves this year . It's an exceptional bunch of players that won't be seen again . Quite impressed with Mayo . Second best team out there by some distance . They'll get there soon enough . Could be this year.
Not sure about a team beating itself. But Dublin are clearly streets ahead, and unlikely to mess up imo.
As regards Mayo, I dunno? This management has a huge responsibility. Dublin players managed the game and conditions so well this evening. Mayo were better clued in from Cork and the effort could not be faulted but decision making at times was flawed. Address that and we might be ok.
It's the forwards that's killing you . You just can't pick off 4-5 points in a row against a good side . You always have to bust a gut for them . 2 inside forwards needed
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Quote from: Kurtz on February 06, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
I was at the game, I think on a dry day Dubs would have won by six or seven. Mayo doubled up on the Dublin forwards which left no space in there at all, but at the same time Mayo had nothing to offer up front themselves. Dublin seemed quite happy to run down the clock with hand passing and were never really in trouble. It was a physical match because of the weather no one was letting the ball long it was all possession hand passing and also because Mayo were crowding out the dubs up front.
Nah. The difference was that Dublin were patient and kept possession and probed for openings. Mayo forwards were also doubled up and crowded out. Dublin forwards offered nothing either. The match winning scores came from keep ball and probing runs from likes of McCaffrey, Cooper and McCarty. Mayo were silly and wasted good turn over possession on speculative ball into outnumbered forwards in brutal conditions. It was silly stuff. But to be expected maybe. Established team/management and assured plays v a team that's starting all over again. Mayo improved a lot in a week but lacked composure at times.
Dublin can only beat themselves this year . It's an exceptional bunch of players that won't be seen again . Quite impressed with Mayo . Second best team out there by some distance . They'll get there soon enough . Could be this year.
Not sure about a team beating itself. But Dublin are clearly streets ahead, and unlikely to mess up imo.
As regards Mayo, I dunno? This management has a huge responsibility. Dublin players managed the game and conditions so well this evening. Mayo were better clued in from Cork and the effort could not be faulted but decision making at times was flawed. Address that and we might be ok.
It's the forwards that's killing you . You just can't pick off 4-5 points in a row against a good side . You always have to bust a gut for them . 2 inside forwards needed
Yeah, I agree with you at a glance. But I do remember us getting a flurry of scores together against yoursevles last year in both games. And outside yourselves who is a good team? I mean really when you are measuring our AI title credentials it comes down to the Question can we be Dublin and not much else! That said that could all change this year with the emergence of a new County.
Watched this game last night and think it could have went on for another 3-4 hours and the dubs would have held Mayo comfortably at arms length. Unless you have CoC and AoS plus two other consistent scorers I can't see you crossing the line in September. No matter how many times guys like Doherty, Ronaldson, Freeman, Sweeney, Conroy etc have been given a lash they have, imo, never shown they have the gilt edge to turn almost rans into winners. From the little if have seen Regan looks good but yet to be tested in the white heat of summer.
I would love to see the green and red do it in September but I think the top teams know that if they cover CoC and AoS to a half decent level then 9 times out of 10 the other Mayo forwards will stutter their lines a la the 3/4 Mark in last year's semi when you had all but your wee toes in the final.
would have to say I have been very disappointed in Evan Regan.I know its early days yet but for me he does not look like the solution to our corner forward problem
Quote from: maigheo on February 07, 2016, 02:51:26 PM
would have to say I have been very disappointed in Evan Regan.I know its early days yet but for me he does not look like the solution to our corner forward problem
Wait until the end of the league. Can't judge the lad on two games so far.
Yeah, far too early to judge Regan yet. Apart from the fact that we've struggled in both games, he has a huge amount to learn, playing at this level is completely different to what he's been used to - backs are much faster and tougher, little jinks that work in club games don't work as well. That said, he's played ok, had a goal chance in both games that he should have done better with but once he gets used to this level, he should become more clinical. Only the very top players (JOD for example) are able to make the step up almost immediately.
Tell me those weren't Dublin fans running onto the field to celebrate winning a league match? Cringe. Drug testing for fans should be introduced but only for Dubs.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 07, 2016, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: maigheo on February 07, 2016, 02:51:26 PM
would have to say I have been very disappointed in Evan Regan.I know its early days yet but for me he does not look like the solution to our corner forward problem
Wait until the end of the league. Can't judge the lad on two games so far.
Yeah you're probably right but would still be concerned by his inability to make any kind of space for himself when he gets possession.
Game will have done both teams the power of good. Positives for both camps.
Thought Setanta coverage good but sloppy when it came to letting us know when substitutions were being made. For all its faults, the RTE coverage is good at that.
I know some posters here seem to have it in for him but I thought the ref had a very good game. From what I saw on the telly he seemed to get most things right.
Sort of felt sorry for some of the players afterwards being swamped by autograph hunters when I am sure that was the last thing they wanted to do in the cold and wet.
QuoteWait until the end of the league. Can't judge the lad on two games so far.
Correct. Difficult to judge any player so far. Winter football counts for nothing, it suits the big awkward Ulster teams better, i.e. Monaghan, Donegal and Tyrone.
Hopefully our next match will be on drier ground and calmer conditions and as the year goes on the more skillful teams will improve and be rewarded, i.e., ourselves and Kerry.
Quote from: Canalman on February 08, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
Game will have done both teams the power of good. Positives for both camps.
Thought Setanta coverage good but sloppy when it came to letting us know when substitutions were being made. For all its faults, the RTE coverage is good at that.
I know some posters here seem to have it in for him but I thought the ref had a very good game. From what I saw on the telly he seemed to get most things right.
Sort of felt sorry for some of the players afterwards being swamped by autograph hunters when I am sure that was the last thing they wanted to do in the cold and wet.
Its a regular occurrence from our Mayo players. They don't mind and sometimes can be half an hour out on the pitch signing autographs and "Selfies" with the young fans! I think its brilliant that they do it
Quote from: Canalman on February 08, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
Game will have done both teams the power of good. Positives for both camps.
Thought Setanta coverage good but sloppy when it came to letting us know when substitutions were being made. For all its faults, the RTE coverage is good at that.
I know some posters here seem to have it in for him but I thought the ref had a very good game. From what I saw on the telly he seemed to get most things right.
Sort of felt sorry for some of the players afterwards being swamped by autograph hunters when I am sure that was the last thing they wanted to do in the cold and wet.
Strange thing to complain about, autographs. I'm sure the kids would have been thrilled beyond belief so it was more than worth getting slightly more wet for.
You picked me up completely wrong there lads.
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Game was at 7pm.
For Sunday afternoon games away in Kerry/Mayo etc they'll travel the night before.
As Dinny et all keep telling us, staying in your own bed the night before the game is a massive advantage.
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Game was at 7pm.
For Sunday afternoon games away in Kerry/Mayo etc they'll travel the night before.
As Dinny et all keep telling us, staying in your own bed the night before the game is a massive advantage.
Now now Heffo, if you are going to paraphrase me at least don't exaggerate my words, sleeping in your own bed would be referred to as a marginal gain. Routine is very important to any athlete, mentally they don't need change as it is a distraction.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Game was at 7pm.
For Sunday afternoon games away in Kerry/Mayo etc they'll travel the night before.
As Dinny et all keep telling us, staying in your own bed the night before the game is a massive advantage.
Now now Heffo, if you are going to paraphrase me at least don't exaggerate my words, sleeping in your own bed would be referred to as a marginal gain. Routine is very important to any athlete, mentally they don't need change as it is a distraction.
Wouldn't a superbly conditioned (but very fragile) Dub player be encouraged to bring his own pillow/s in the event of an overnight stay, to at last salvage a part of that marginal own bed gain?
Quote from: Main Street on February 15, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Game was at 7pm.
For Sunday afternoon games away in Kerry/Mayo etc they'll travel the night before.
As Dinny et all keep telling us, staying in your own bed the night before the game is a massive advantage.
Now now Heffo, if you are going to paraphrase me at least don't exaggerate my words, sleeping in your own bed would be referred to as a marginal gain. Routine is very important to any athlete, mentally they don't need change as it is a distraction.
Wouldn't a superbly conditioned (but very fragile) Dub player be encouraged to bring his own pillow/s in the event of an overnight stay, to at last salvage a part of that marginal own bed gain?
They could well be. If they're fragile though, what would you call the Monaghan players who were beat out the gate by them?
Quote from: heffo on February 15, 2016, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 15, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Game was at 7pm.
For Sunday afternoon games away in Kerry/Mayo etc they'll travel the night before.
As Dinny et all keep telling us, staying in your own bed the night before the game is a massive advantage.
Now now Heffo, if you are going to paraphrase me at least don't exaggerate my words, sleeping in your own bed would be referred to as a marginal gain. Routine is very important to any athlete, mentally they don't need change as it is a distraction.
Wouldn't a superbly conditioned (but very fragile) Dub player be encouraged to bring his own pillow/s in the event of an overnight stay, to at last salvage a part of that marginal own bed gain?
They could well be. If they're fragile though, what would you call the Monaghan players who were beat out the gate by them?
Why would you want to know that? Surely you know that whataboutery is a nordie thing heffo, not for dimwitted corny dubs who have a total absence of humour and irony?
This topic is way over your head heffo. I want to know more about the science of the marginal gain factor and heffo, your idea of the marginal gain factor based on your life experience, would probably be more akin to getting an extra butter voucher.
Quote from: Main Street on February 15, 2016, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 15, 2016, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 15, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 14, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 14, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
Quick fire question ,on what day did the Dublin team travel to Mayo for this game ?
Saturday, why?
Ahh no biggy really .
They travelled the same day as the game ?
Game was at 7pm.
For Sunday afternoon games away in Kerry/Mayo etc they'll travel the night before.
As Dinny et all keep telling us, staying in your own bed the night before the game is a massive advantage.
Now now Heffo, if you are going to paraphrase me at least don't exaggerate my words, sleeping in your own bed would be referred to as a marginal gain. Routine is very important to any athlete, mentally they don't need change as it is a distraction.
Wouldn't a superbly conditioned (but very fragile) Dub player be encouraged to bring his own pillow/s in the event of an overnight stay, to at last salvage a part of that marginal own bed gain?
They could well be. If they're fragile though, what would you call the Monaghan players who were beat out the gate by them?
Why would you want to know that? Surely you know that whataboutery is a nordie thing heffo, not for dimwitted corny dubs who have a total absence of humour and irony?
This topic is way over your head heffo. I want to know more about the science of the marginal gain factor and heffo, your idea of the marginal gain factor based on your life experience, would probably be more akin to getting an extra butter voucher.
I wish I were as smart as you. You bitter nordie.