Pairc ui rinn it is for the second year on the trot in the league .
Last years game was a sickener , Hurley getting a goal in the dying moments of game where we were two points up . Everyone in the crowd could see it coming too .If we had of held out,the two points would of seen us through to semi spot for sure . In happier memories who can forget 13 in pairc ui caoimh , where we grinded out a win to secure our div one status and actually got to semi (fine lines) but cillians two glorious sideline points that day one from the left and the other from the right about 40 yards out will stick with me forever.
Our injury list for this game is crazy , Mayo news reported during the week 20 players only available for training . No word yet on Keith or Keane either which is getting more worrying by the day when you don't hear something . Cillian is out as we know , I'm not sure what the situation is with Aido and seamie ? Of the newbies Loftus got some sort of knock in Roscommon game too.
Will regan get a run, surely he has to but I'm hearing he's carrying some sort of knock too.
Boyle , keegan , caff, O hora, Vaughan, Harrison, nally , mchale 6/8 of that lot ?
Parsons and gibbons in the middle
DoC, Jason doc, kev Mac, Loftus, regan, Ronaldson. (Moran , Dillon ? What's the story ) Jesus forward line is weak without AOs and Cilian, castlebar not helping matters either jk (kirby and Douglas primed for a league run this year)
Here's the 2nd of those sideline balls, can't find the first from the opposite side. Top quality from COC
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--RHxG99BMc
Four hours and only 2 posts on a Rhu thread!!!!! :o
Bandwagon gone buicìnì? :P
larryin, I think I read somewhere that Conor Loftus` problem is a hamstring issue.
Cork having league games at home should be outlawed.
Both Higgins and keane out for quiet a while keane 4/5 weeks not date set for Higgins which is very worrying
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27105-mayo-duo-facing-spell-on-the-sidelines (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27105-mayo-duo-facing-spell-on-the-sidelines)
That's a balls but at least it provides an opportunity for some of the younger lads like Hall, Coen, O'Hora to stake a claim
Quote from: Syferus on January 22, 2016, 01:15:58 AM
Cork having league games at home should be outlawed.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on January 22, 2016, 01:15:47 PM
That's a balls but at least it provides an opportunity for some of the younger lads like Hall, Coen, O'Hora to stake a claim
time to be getting the next generation plenty of game time. there needs to be a lot of players replaced in the next few years
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 22, 2016, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 22, 2016, 01:15:58 AM
Cork having league games at home should be outlawed.
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The last time Cork had a good home crowd for a league game Brian Boru was probably the leader of the country.
Quote from: rosnarun on January 22, 2016, 12:46:41 PM
Both Higgins and keane out for quiet a while keane 4/5 weeks not date set for Higgins which is very worrying
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27105-mayo-duo-facing-spell-on-the-sidelines (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27105-mayo-duo-facing-spell-on-the-sidelines)
Looking at least 2 months out with MCL injury. Higgins lucky it wasn't his ACL as at his age that injury could have ended his county career.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 22, 2016, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on January 22, 2016, 12:46:41 PM
Both Higgins and keane out for quiet a while keane 4/5 weeks not date set for Higgins which is very worrying
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27105-mayo-duo-facing-spell-on-the-sidelines (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27105-mayo-duo-facing-spell-on-the-sidelines)
Looking at least 2 months out with MCL injury. Higgins lucky it wasn't his ACL as at his age that injury could have ended his county career.
Any cruciate tears are tricky animals. Usually means a player overcompensated when they come back and makes re-injury or hamstring strains more likely. Donie Shine had a similarly 'bright' cruciate prognosis but wasn't fully fight for the best part of a year.
Anyone else heading down to this? I don't know who exactly i'm asking, half the contributors to this thread are rossies
Apparently Cork in disarray already according to one football man I was talking to today, it really is a shambles of a football county when you look at the talent that they have
Who knows what to expect, I wouldn't go expecting too much, likewise if we win or lose I wouldn't read too much into it. Cork could win the league or get relegated, we'll probably finish 4th-6th
Quote from: Rossfan on January 21, 2016, 11:52:55 PM
Four hours and only 2 posts on a Rhu thread!!!!! :o
Bandwagon gone buicìnì? :P
12 posts in and half from the noisy neighbours
Obsessed or what !!!!
Quote from: criostlinn on January 22, 2016, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 21, 2016, 11:52:55 PM
Four hours and only 2 posts on a Rhu thread!!!!! :o
Bandwagon gone buicìnì? :P
12 posts in and half from the noisy neighbours
Obsessed or what !!!!
About as touchy as the Mato supporters streaming out of McHale with five minutes to go on Sunday were.
Keith Higgins injury not so bad. Hopes to be back training next week.
This league campaign could be tricky. The lads showed good appetite for the FBD but things were just not clicking. Looked like some players were trying too hard to impress rather than taking the right option and linking up.
Anyway I d like to see the O Sheas back asap and try and grind out a few wins.
Cork beat Clare in the Mc Grath Cup Final tonight by 1-15 to 1-9....Criost linn, no i won't be going to this game anyway. I'm going to Hyde Park 8)
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
Quote from: Shrewdness on January 22, 2016, 10:21:03 PM
Cork beat Clare in the Mc Grath Cup Final tonight by 1-15 to 1-9....Criost linn, no i won't be going to this game anyway. I'm going to Hyde Park 8)
You'll still give us a report of the mayo match anyway surely...
That's good to hear about higgans ,mhope Keane recovers quickly too .
Regan back training tonight ?
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
I do believe we are
the longest serving county in division 1?
Some achievement. Tis alright now, ye can take a rest the cavalry has arrived.
Quote from: Mayo Club 51 on January 22, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
I do believe we are the longest serving county in division 1?
We are surely,about time we won it again though . League specialists once upon a time .
Quote from: Mayo Club 51 on January 22, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
I do believe we are the longest serving county in division 1?
We sure are; we were never relegated.
Aye - sure it's all about the League.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 23, 2016, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: Mayo Club 51 on January 22, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
I do believe we are the longest serving county in division 1?
We sure are; we were never relegated.
Well that's just not true. In the tanned ones first year we came out of Div 3 to make a league semi final. The league was restructured at that point and we were back in Div 1 for 97. Our first match being in Cross against Meath, a full house and a draw I think? That could have been in winter 96.
This year marks 20 years in Div 1, the longest serving team.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 23, 2016, 01:45:01 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 23, 2016, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: Mayo Club 51 on January 22, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
I do believe we are the longest serving county in division 1?
We sure are; we were never relegated.
Well that's just not true. In the tanned ones first year we came out of Div 3 to make a league semi final. The league was restructured at that point and we were back in Div 1 for 97. Our first match being in Cross against Meath, a full house and a draw I think? That could have been in winter 96.
This year marks 20 years in Div 1, the longest serving team.
I was talking about the present league structure since it was set up.. No other county has always been in the top division since then.
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
No panic! I'd say this fixture is one that the squad don't expect to win, but if they do it's a bonus. Mayo are one of the longest serving counties in Division One. And although I'd like to retain that status, It's not the end of the world if we don't. Finding systems, getting new ideas and a few new players is more important. Anyway looks like we will have to look at some squad players for the early games in the league. And no harm!
Good to hear the news with Higgins! Any word on Kane? Heard he's not been so lucky.
Keane has a shoulder muscle injury so that's no so bad. Just needs rest to calm down and repair itself. A month maybe but not a dislocation or collar bone or ligament trouble.
No panic as you say. Still think Cork is a winnable game really.
One thing that struck me about the Ros. FBD game was how vital Kevin McLoughlin is for us. No wonder he is seldom rested. Easily the best performer in the first 2 games imo but I appreciate that he's not everybody's cup of tea. McLoughlin and Diarmuid O Connor will hopefully be playing v Cork. The inside forwards could be iffy.
Is Evan Regan available?
If he is along with Freeman and O'Shea we should have a reasonable fw line although not one that would last 70 mins probably.
Along the lines of the following to pick from maybe?
DOConnor, JDoc, KMac, Ronnie, Regan, O'Shea, Freeman, Gallagher, CO'Shea.
Anybody know of places to eat near the ground? Will head on Sunday morn and home again Sunday eve so I want a quick enough getaway.
The silver Key si literally just round the corner or you could go into Douglas for Eco but that would need to be booked
Quote from: Nihilist on January 25, 2016, 03:10:04 PM
Is Evan Regan available?
If he is along with Freeman and O'Shea we should have a reasonable fw line although not one that would last 70 mins probably.
Along the lines of the following to pick from maybe?
DOConnor, JDoc, KMac, Ronnie, Regan, O'Shea, Freeman, Gallagher, CO'Shea.
I dont think Adam Gallagher is on the Panel at least they didn't seem to be counting him when listing the Missing players,
shame if he's not.
Big year for conor o shea time for him to make his own name . I think he can
My starting six from what available
DOConnor, JDoc, KMac
Ronaldson A oshea C oshea
though i dont expect Aidan to start so throw in regan give him a chance
I think Ruttledge has started all 3 FBD games and did reasonably well so he could start or at least come on for a debut
Ive heard that Regan will start.I dont think Gallagher is in the panel to be picked which is unfortunate.As for Freeman i dont know is it worth persisting with him.Him pulling out of a 50/50 ball when we were all level with the Dubs at the end of the first game has haunted me all winter.I genuinely believe had we got ahead at that stage we would have won the game and who knows after that.
Quote from: mayoman dan on January 27, 2016, 10:57:23 PM
Ive heard that Regan will start.I dont think Gallagher is in the panel to be picked which is unfortunate.As for Freeman i dont know is it worth persisting with him.Him pulling out of a 50/50 ball when we were all level with the Dubs at the end of the first game has haunted me all winter.I genuinely believe had we got ahead at that stage we would have won the game and who knows after that.
Freeman might be worth a run this year with cillian out for league campaign , he didn't actually back out of that one if you watch it closely it was Philly mcmahons ball every time , he was nearer the ball by half a yard I'd say.
Corjk Team
Ken O Halloran (Bishopstown)
Colm O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
Brian O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
James Loughrey (Mallow)
Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs)
Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
Andrew O Sullivan (Castletownbere)
Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
Luke Connolly (Nemo Rangers)
Daniel Goulding (Eire Og)
Peter Kelleher (Kilmichael)
Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
Subs:
16. Micheal Aodh Martin (Nemo Rangers)
17. Kieran Histon (Cobh)
18. Mark Collins (O Donovan Rossa)
19. Bart Daly (Newmarket)
20. Killian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)
21. Sean Kiely (Ballincollig)
22. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
23. Donal Og Hodnett (O Donovan Rossa)
24. Seamus Hickey (Rockchapel)
25. Dan McEoin (Ilen Rovers)
26. Colm O Neill (Ballyclough)
Strong enough looking team for this time of year from Cork
Quote from: twohands!!! on January 28, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
Corjk Team
Ken O Halloran (Bishopstown)
Colm O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
Brian O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
James Loughrey (Mallow)
Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs)
Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
Andrew O Sullivan (Castletownbere)
Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
Luke Connolly (Nemo Rangers)
Daniel Goulding (Eire Og)
Peter Kelleher (Kilmichael)
Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
Subs:
16. Micheal Aodh Martin (Nemo Rangers)
17. Kieran Histon (Cobh)
18. Mark Collins (O Donovan Rossa)
19. Bart Daly (Newmarket)
20. Killian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)
21. Sean Kiely (Ballincollig)
22. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
23. Donal Og Hodnett (O Donovan Rossa)
24. Seamus Hickey (Rockchapel)
25. Dan McEoin (Ilen Rovers)
26. Colm O Neill (Ballyclough)
Strong enough looking team for this time of year from Cork
Population is as much the reason Cork and Dublin have dominated the league in recent years as money. Injuries just don't effect them half as much as other counties.
Yeah and what was the population of Dublin in the 20yrs between 93-13 ?
Quote from: larryin89 on January 27, 2016, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on January 27, 2016, 10:57:23 PM
Ive heard that Regan will start.I dont think Gallagher is in the panel to be picked which is unfortunate.As for Freeman i dont know is it worth persisting with him.Him pulling out of a 50/50 ball when we were all level with the Dubs at the end of the first game has haunted me all winter.I genuinely believe had we got ahead at that stage we would have won the game and who knows after that.
Freeman might be worth a run this year with cillian out for league campaign , he didn't actually back out of that one if you watch it closely it was Philly mcmahons ball every time , he was nearer the ball by half a yard I'd say.
We might have to agree to disagree on this one Larr.Ive watched it a thousand times.He slows down and changes his body shape.Maybe pulling out is the wrong way to word it but he didnt commit 100% to winning that ball.He was conscious of the hit coming all through that play.Id love to see Freeman play well he was brilliant in the 13 semi final v Tyrone and i think subbing him off in the final that year was disasterous for all involved butit seems every yer were waiting for him to do it and he very rarely does.
Any other year I would have said Mayo would struggle to survive with the way things are for them, last year division 1 was way stronger than this year, with that in mind they should survive.
Quote from: Mclf on January 28, 2016, 10:53:38 PM
Any other year I would have said Mayo would struggle to survive with the way things are for them, last year division 1 was way stronger than this year, with that in mind they should survive.
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Quote from: moysider on January 29, 2016, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: Mclf on January 28, 2016, 10:53:38 PM
Any other year I would have said Mayo would struggle to survive with the way things are for them, last year division 1 was way stronger than this year, with that in mind they should survive.
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New management team in not ideal circumstances
A few players injured or not involved yet due to mileage on clock
Players unavailable due to club commitments
Inexperienced management trying out young inexperienced players and trying to put their own stamp on team
Also how much of an effect has the last couple years had mentally on the panel, how many more times can they go an unfruitful well
Quote from: Mclf on January 29, 2016, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: moysider on January 29, 2016, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: Mclf on January 28, 2016, 10:53:38 PM
Any other year I would have said Mayo would struggle to survive with the way things are for them, last year division 1 was way stronger than this year, with that in mind they should survive.
?
New management team in not ideal circumstances
A few players injured or not involved yet due to mileage on clock
Players unavailable due to club commitments
Inexperienced management trying out young inexperienced players and trying to put their own stamp on team
Also how much of an effect has the last couple years had mentally on the panel, how many more times can they go an unfruitful well
Think the new management could be a breath of fresh air. Nothing personal but last year's management was already stale when appointed and the appointment was seriously compromised.
Only a few players unavailable due to club commitments. Cunniffe the only regular and the others are in places where we are strong.
Not aware of any players not involved because of milage on the clock. There are a few injuries but that is normal.
Can t think of any inexperienced players that are likely to feature in the league. Any lad that gets a debut in the league will be well used to playing at a high level.
We had a problem converting possession into scores in games in FBD, that is true.
Compared to most counties our visits to the well have been more fruitful than most and I ve no doubt that the players are still going to perform at the top level. Why not? As James Horan pointed out during the week there are sportsmen and women that train harder for other sports in this country and never get the recognition or respect footballers do. The idea that lads in their prime melt away and lie down and die because they lose some top games is ridiculous. They will want to get back there again and do better.
This bunch of Mayo footballers have played in some great games in full houses and all are still ambitious and focused. Whoever beats us this year in championship will have a job and if they do they will probably win the big chalice again. That's been the norm for a while.
Quote from: moysider on January 29, 2016, 12:49:43 AM
Quote from: Mclf on January 29, 2016, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: moysider on January 29, 2016, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: Mclf on January 28, 2016, 10:53:38 PM
Any other year I would have said Mayo would struggle to survive with the way things are for them, last year division 1 was way stronger than this year, with that in mind they should survive.
?
New management team in not ideal circumstances
A few players injured or not involved yet due to mileage on clock
Players unavailable due to club commitments
Inexperienced management trying out young inexperienced players and trying to put their own stamp on team
Also how much of an effect has the last couple years had mentally on the panel, how many more times can they go an unfruitful well
Think the new management could be a breath of fresh air. Nothing personal but last year's management was already stale when appointed and the appointment was seriously compromised.
Only a few players unavailable due to club commitments. Cunniffe the only regular and the others are in places where we are strong.
Not aware of any players not involved because of milage on the clock. There are a few injuries but that is normal.
Can t think of any inexperienced players that are likely to feature in the league. Any lad that gets a debut in the league will be well used to playing at a high level.
We had a problem converting possession into scores in games in FBD, that is true.
Compared to most counties our visits to the well have been more fruitful than most and I ve no doubt that the players are still going to perform at the top level. Why not? As James Horan pointed out during the week there are sportsmen and women that train harder for other sports in this country and never get the recognition or respect footballers do. The idea that lads in their prime melt away and lie down and die because they lose some top games is ridiculous. They will want to get back there again and do better.
This bunch of Mayo footballers have played in some great games in full houses and all are still ambitious and focused. Whoever beats us this year in championship will have a job and if they do they will probably win the big chalice again. That's been the norm for a while.
The end of a quality team is rarely graceful Moy. The AI final of 1980 was the pinancle and the end of the 4-in-row Roscommon team all in one. You'd be laughed out of the building if you said in September 1980 that it would be a decade before we even win another Connacht title. We also were coming off the back of some very good underage sides. Momentum is a very funny thing.
There is no end to yer dreaming of the end for Mayo . This team has 2 years left and then there will be another centred round AOS and Cillian for another 2 years , plenty of youth coming through Patrick Duncan , DOC , Conor loftus etc etc . I'll repeat it again and again , Mayo football has never been in such a good position in my time . Something very special happened in the horan era , you'll see in time .
Anybody dancing on Mayo's grave now might be a bit premature. Even when we hit rock bottom - like 2010 - we rebound fairly fast.
We've club teams in AI Junior and Intermediate AI club finals and a chance that Castlebar can make the senior. We'll be fine.
Quote from: moysider on January 29, 2016, 01:28:25 AM
Anybody dancing on Mayo's grave now might be a bit premature. Even when we hit rock bottom - like 2010 - we rebound fairly fast.
We've club teams in AI Junior and Intermediate AI club finals and a chance that Castlebar can make the senior. We'll be fine.
No ones dancing on anything and you know it. But your position is more precarious than you'll admit. Lads like McLoughlin, Higgins and Boyle are once in a generation players and don't have many years left playing, never mind playing at the top level, which is a different thing entirely.
And even Prenty is getting public about how ridiculously over revenue the amount spent by Connacht teams on IC prep is and it's clear as day Mayo are spending by a large amount the most of any of the Connacht counties.
New Mayo manager Stephen Rochford will be shorn of 15 players as the Connacht champions open their 2016 national football league programme.
Mayo travel to Cork to commence their Division One campaign on Sunday and they are missing their Castlebar contingent (including Barry Moran, Tom Cunniffe and Patrick Durcan) as well as Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Andy Moran, Seamus O'Shea, Chris Barrett and the O'Connor brothers, Diarmuid and Cillian.
With Hollymount-Carramore through to the All-Ireland intermediate club decider, Stephen and Darren Coen are also unavailable.
It's not an ideal backdrop to the beginning of Rochford's maiden league campaign at the helm and he has stated that top-flight survival is his goal this spring.
Be doing well with so many unavilable.
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
New Mayo manager Stephen Rochford will be shorn of 15 players as the Connacht champions open their 2016 national football league programme.
Mayo travel to Cork to commence their Division One campaign on Sunday and they are missing their Castlebar contingent (including Barry Moran, Tom Cunniffe and Patrick Durcan) as well as Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Andy Moran, Seamus O'Shea, Chris Barrett and the O'Connor brothers, Diarmuid and Cillian.
With Hollymount-Carramore through to the All-Ireland intermediate club decider, Stephen and Darren Coen are also unavailable.
It's not an ideal backdrop to the beginning of Rochford's maiden league campaign at the helm and he has stated that top-flight survival is his goal this spring.
Be doing well with so many unavilable.
D O Connor is fit he started for DCU on Tuesday. Of the above players only S O Shea,Cuniffe,K Higgins,C OConnor would be considered first choice when Mayo have everyone fit and with Barry Moran pushing hardest for a starting spot.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2016, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
New Mayo manager Stephen Rochford will be shorn of 15 players as the Connacht champions open their 2016 national football league programme.
Mayo travel to Cork to commence their Division One campaign on Sunday and they are missing their Castlebar contingent (including Barry Moran, Tom Cunniffe and Patrick Durcan) as well as Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Andy Moran, Seamus O'Shea, Chris Barrett and the O'Connor brothers, Diarmuid and Cillian.
With Hollymount-Carramore through to the All-Ireland intermediate club decider, Stephen and Darren Coen are also unavailable.
It's not an ideal backdrop to the beginning of Rochford's maiden league campaign at the helm and he has stated that top-flight survival is his goal this spring.
Be doing well with so many unavilable.
D O Connor is fit he started for DCU on Tuesday. Of the above players only S O Shea,Cuniffe,K Higgins,C OConnor would be considered first choice when Mayo have everyone fit and with Barry Moran pushing hardest for a starting spot.
Andy Moran was the 16th man last year for a pedestrian set of forwards. Durcan is now a starter for Mayo, his foot the only thing really putting that off as long as this. Barrett usually starts when fully fit too, probably a better player than Cunniffe. Barry Moran a starter for last year's AI matches. So at least seven starters and a sub whose age and impact off the bench are the only reasons he isn't starting gone. That includes Mayo's main free-taker and point scorer.
Cork being Cork may flop but it would be a massive coup for Mayo to travel down and beat them with the players they have available.
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2016, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2016, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
New Mayo manager Stephen Rochford will be shorn of 15 players as the Connacht champions open their 2016 national football league programme.
Mayo travel to Cork to commence their Division One campaign on Sunday and they are missing their Castlebar contingent (including Barry Moran, Tom Cunniffe and Patrick Durcan) as well as Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Andy Moran, Seamus O'Shea, Chris Barrett and the O'Connor brothers, Diarmuid and Cillian.
With Hollymount-Carramore through to the All-Ireland intermediate club decider, Stephen and Darren Coen are also unavailable.
It's not an ideal backdrop to the beginning of Rochford's maiden league campaign at the helm and he has stated that top-flight survival is his goal this spring.
Be doing well with so many unavilable.
D O Connor is fit he started for DCU on Tuesday. Of the above players only S O Shea,Cuniffe,K Higgins,C OConnor would be considered first choice when Mayo have everyone fit and with Barry Moran pushing hardest for a starting spot.
Andy Moran was the 16th man last year for a pedestrian set of forwards. Durcan is now a starter for Mayo, his foot the only thing really putting that off as long as this. Barrett usually starts when fully fit too, probably a better player than Cunniffe. Barry Moran a starter for last year's AI matches. So at least seven starters and a sub whose age and impact off the bench are the only reasons he isn't starting gone. That includes Mayo's main free-taker and point scorer.
Cork being Cork may flop but it would be a massive coup for Mayo to travel down and beat them with the players they have available.
All a matter of opinion but I don't think Durcan,Barrett are starters when everyone is fit. Durcan down the road will be likely starter once Boyle calls time on his county career.
Barry Moran got more starts last year because his former club manager Pat Holmes selected him. I'd see Barry Moran as a 16th man under Rochford more than Andy Moran. The much talked about Evan Regan could fill in for C O Connor.
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New Mayo manager Stephen Rochford will be shorn of 15 players as the Connacht champions open their 2016 national football league programme.
Mayo travel to Cork to commence their Division One campaign on Sunday and they are missing their Castlebar contingent (including Barry Moran, Tom Cunniffe and Patrick Durcan) as well as Keith Higgins, Alan Dillon, Andy Moran, Seamus O'Shea, Chris Barrett and the O'Connor brothers, Diarmuid and Cillian.
With Hollymount-Carramore through to the All-Ireland intermediate club decider, Stephen and Darren Coen are also unavailable.
It's not an ideal backdrop to the beginning of Rochford's maiden league campaign at the helm and he has stated that top-flight survival is his goal this spring.
Be doing well with so many unavilable.
D O Connor is fit he started for DCU on Tuesday. Of the above players only S O Shea,Cuniffe,K Higgins,C OConnor would be considered first choice when Mayo have everyone fit and with Barry Moran pushing hardest for a starting spot.
Andy Moran was the 16th man last year for a pedestrian set of forwards. Durcan is now a starter for Mayo, his foot the only thing really putting that off as long as this. Barrett usually starts when fully fit too, probably a better player than Cunniffe. Barry Moran a starter for last year's AI matches. So at least seven starters and a sub whose age and impact off the bench are the only reasons he isn't starting gone. That includes Mayo's main free-taker and point scorer.
Cork being Cork may flop but it would be a massive coup for Mayo to travel down and beat them with the players they have available.
All a matter of opinion but I don't think Durcan,Barrett are starters when everyone is fit. Durcan down the road will be likely starter once Boyle calls time on his county career.
Barry Moran got more starts last year because his former club manager Pat Holmes selected him. I'd see Barry Moran as a 16th man under Rochford more than Andy Moran. The much talked about Evan Regan could fill in for C O Connor.
Durcan is a better half back already than Donie Vaughan ever has been in my honest opinion. Pace and intelligence on the ball. It was Conor Loftus who was the guy relied on for frees in the FBD and by all accounts was one of the few new names to do well. I'd be surprised if Regan was paracuted in to take the majority of frees like that.
Mayo have a serious injury list at the moment, same as us.
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2016, 03:51:01 PM
Durcan is a better half back already than Donie Vaughan ever has been in my honest opinion. Pace and intelligence on the ball. It was Conor Loftus who was the guy relied on for frees in the FBD and by all accounts was one of the few new names to do well. I'd be surprised if Regan was paracuted in to take the majority of frees like that.
Mayo have a serious injury list at the moment, same as us.
Vaughan was injured for the semi final replay last year. Durcan is only starting out his career and the best of luck to him but to automatically parachute him in front of a seasoned IC regular based on one appearance is daft.
Quote from: Nihilist on January 29, 2016, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2016, 03:51:01 PM
Durcan is a better half back already than Donie Vaughan ever has been in my honest opinion. Pace and intelligence on the ball. It was Conor Loftus who was the guy relied on for frees in the FBD and by all accounts was one of the few new names to do well. I'd be surprised if Regan was paracuted in to take the majority of frees like that.
Mayo have a serious injury list at the moment, same as us.
Vaughan was injured for the semi final replay last year. Durcan is only starting out his career and the best of luck to him but to automatically parachute him in front of a seasoned IC regular based on one appearance is daft.
I consider Vaughan a liability as a back. It's actually underselling how good Durcan is comparing him to Vaughan honestly.
Vaughan might have a role as a HF but any time I've seen Mayo play or we've played them I've always felt he could be got at and was liable to cough the ball up out of position and leave a gaping hole in the defence. Particularly when he's playing CHB those are things you can't have if you want to win at the top level.
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on January 29, 2016, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2016, 03:51:01 PM
Durcan is a better half back already than Donie Vaughan ever has been in my honest opinion. Pace and intelligence on the ball. It was Conor Loftus who was the guy relied on for frees in the FBD and by all accounts was one of the few new names to do well. I'd be surprised if Regan was paracuted in to take the majority of frees like that.
Mayo have a serious injury list at the moment, same as us.
Vaughan was injured for the semi final replay last year. Durcan is only starting out his career and the best of luck to him but to automatically parachute him in front of a seasoned IC regular based on one appearance is daft.
I consider Vaughan a liability as a back. It's actually underselling how good Durcan is comparing him to Vaughan honestly.
Vaughan might have a role as a HF but any time I've seen Mayo play or we've played them I've always felt he could be got at and was liable to cough the ball up out of position and leave a gaping hole in the defence. Particular when he's playing CHB those are things you can't have if you want to win at the top level.
Believe it or not, Syf I agree with you. It's a conundrum really as far as Vaughan's concerned. He brings a lot of pace to the team, but where to play him is another thing altogether. He, as you say, isn't a traditional 'holding' number 6 type defender. He was kind of lost when he was at midfield last year, and his shooting isn't always prolific as a striker either, even though he gets the odd good score now and again. I don't know, maybe he would be better brought on from the bench later on in the year, when games are in the balance, like Dublin used MDMA to great effect last year. He's too pacy a player to be dropped altogether, but he's not able to hold the centre back position either. That's my opinion on him anyway. However, I would want to see more of Durcan to give him the automatic thumbs up. He might be good enough, time will tell.
The Mayo team for Sunday's round Allianz Football League clash with Cork, in Páirc Uí Rinn at 2pm is:
1. Robbie Hennelly (Breaffy)
2. Brendan Harrison (Aghamore);
3. Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
4. Shane McHale (Knockmore);
5. Lee Keegan (Westport, captain);
6. Caolan Crowe (Garrymore)
7. Shane Nally (Garrymore);
8. Tom Parsons (Charlestown);
9. Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber);
10. Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore);
11. Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy);
12. Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber);
13. Evan Regan (Ballina Stephenites);
14. Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe);
15. Jason Doherty (Burrishoole).
Lee Keegan will captain the team on the day. No captain for the season has been selected yet.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2016, 09:17:08 PM
The Mayo team for Sunday’s round Allianz Football League clash with Cork, in Páirc Uí Rinn at 2pm is:
1. Robbie Hennelly (Breaffy)
2. Brendan Harrison (Aghamore);
3. Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
4. Shane McHale (Knockmore);
5. Lee Keegan (Westport, captain);
6. Caolan Crowe (Garrymore)
7. Shane Nally (Garrymore);
8. Tom Parsons (Charlestown);
9. Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber);
10. Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore);
11. Aidan O’Shea (Breaffy);
12. Diarmuid O’Connor (Ballintubber);
13. Evan Regan (Ballina Stephenites);
14. Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe);
15. Jason Doherty (Burrishoole).
Lee Keegan will captain the team on the day. No captain for the season has been selected yet.
A stronger team named than Cork. 9 that started the All Ireland semi final and I was right about Regan replacing C O Connor.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2016, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2016, 09:17:08 PM
The Mayo team for Sunday's round Allianz Football League clash with Cork, in Páirc Uí Rinn at 2pm is:
1. Robbie Hennelly (Breaffy)
2. Brendan Harrison (Aghamore);
3. Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
4. Shane McHale (Knockmore);
5. Lee Keegan (Westport, captain);
6. Caolan Crowe (Garrymore)
7. Shane Nally (Garrymore);
8. Tom Parsons (Charlestown);
9. Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber);
10. Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore);
11. Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy);
12. Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber);
13. Evan Regan (Ballina Stephenites);
14. Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe);
15. Jason Doherty (Burrishoole).
Lee Keegan will captain the team on the day. No captain for the season has been selected yet.
A stronger team named than Cork. 9 that started the All Ireland SEMI final and I was right about Regan replacing C O Connor.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2016, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2016, 09:17:08 PM
The Mayo team for Sunday's round Allianz Football League clash with Cork, in Páirc Uí Rinn at 2pm is:
1. Robbie Hennelly (Breaffy)
2. Brendan Harrison (Aghamore);
3. Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
4. Shane McHale (Knockmore);
5. Lee Keegan (Westport, captain);
6. Caolan Crowe (Garrymore)
7. Shane Nally (Garrymore);
8. Tom Parsons (Charlestown);
9. Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber);
10. Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore);
11. Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy);
12. Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber);
13. Evan Regan (Ballina Stephenites);
14. Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe);
15. Jason Doherty (Burrishoole).
Lee Keegan will captain the team on the day. No captain for the season has been selected yet.
A stronger team named than Cork. 9 that started the All Ireland semi final and I was right about Regan replacing C O Connor.
Did you look at the Mayo defence by any chance?
It's strong enough surely. I hope the new look defence doesn't show much signs of inexperience at the top level. It's nice to see Boyle getting a rest as well, although there's no word of the bench which is the norm for Mayo for the past number of years. Pity Keith Ruttledge (biased I know) isn't starting, but I agree with Cunny, it's not a bad team at all.
Have to start somewhere.
It would be great if some of the newer backs can do a job later in the year.
It's certainly not a conservative selection especially in the backs. A fair bit of physicality there too. Cafferkey has played well on Hurley in the past so he might pick him up again.
It looks like Rochford is making a statement already that there are places up for grabs.
The sheer physicality of corks ff line and ability to win ball will be an almighty test for our FB line , the ff I don't know him but I'm hearing is a big lump of a lad cork shtyle, if so caff wil also have his work cut out but Hurley and Goulding are massive tests for Harrison and mchale ,I rate mchale though .
Quote from: larryin89 on January 30, 2016, 12:03:28 AM
The sheer physicality of corks ff line and ability to win ball will be an almighty test for our FB line , the ff I don't know him but I'm hearing is a big lump of a lad cork shtyle, if so caff wil also have his work cut out but Hurley and Goulding are massive tests for Harrison and mchale ,I rate mchale though .
You ll always get a solid game from McHale and great to see him recover well from a bad injury. Unfortunately he doesn't have natural pace but will do well on a certain type of player. Harrison and Cafferkey have pace though so could get balance right.
Haven't seen Crowe much but it would be great if he can make a go of six. Thought he had a very good second half in the second FBD game.
0-12 to 0-4 HT. Very enjoyable game with some great scores. The wind is worth about 6 points I'd say so Cork may have done enough to see this out. Mayo getting some goal chances though and I expect them to go close to winning and if they can get a goal they will probably win.
Quote from: Zulu on January 31, 2016, 02:40:58 PM
0-12 to 0-4 HT. Very enjoyable game with some great scores. The wind is worth about 6 points I'd say so Cork may have done enough to see this out. Mayo getting some goal chances though and I expect them to go close to winning and if they can get a goal they will probably win.
Bookies have Mayo at 7/1
Yeah, two early Cork points has the lead out to ten and they are looking the better team early in the second half. Mayo definitely need a goal now but their forwards whereat in front most of the first half so they can still put up a decent score if they get going. Not looking like it at the moment.
Is the referee not counting the amount of steps players are taking?
It's gone beyond ridiculous
Cork kicking some great scores and Mayo missing some very score-able ones. 0-17 to 0-4 and it's game over now. Would be good to see Mayo make something of the game though.
Mayo hugely disappointing in this second half, have really faded away and Cork, who will win easily, could with a bit of luck have dished out a real trimming.
Cork have been very good in the league and anonymous in championship for a few years.
Terrible performance, glossed by a few scores at the end.
Don't mean to gloat Captain Obvious, but ya.
Result is probably meaningless in the context of Mayo's season, so many key men gone or not fully fit. Would take something special to beat Dublin next week but you never know at home.
Quote from: Syferus on January 31, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
Don't mean to gloat Captain Obvious, but ya.
Result is probably meaningless in the context of Mayo's season, so many key men gone or not fully fit. Would take something special to beat Dublin next week but you never know at home.
Mayo have a habit of struggling in Castlebar in the league, with Keegan unlikely to be himself, only a miracle will get us anything next weekend.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 31, 2016, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 31, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
Don't mean to gloat Captain Obvious, but ya.
Result is probably meaningless in the context of Mayo's season, so many key men gone or not fully fit. Would take something special to beat Dublin next week but you never know at home.
Mayo have a habit of struggling in Castlebar in the league, with Keegan unlikely to be himself, only a miracle will get us anything next weekend.
Can't imagine he would be allowed to play that quickly. He looked well out of it when being helped off.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 31, 2016, 03:53:17 PM
Terrible performance, glossed by a few scores at the end.
Good summary. Injuries only an excuse the Mayo team that started was strong and should be able to do better than that terrible performance.
Supposed to have been reported on the radio Keegan will defo be out for next weekend
Plus McLoughlin unlikely as well as pulled hammer. Plus Higgins and Keane missing and Conroy long term absentee.
Add that to the rest unavailable cos of club or other injuries or only still to come back for new year
SOShea, COConnor, B Moran, T Cunniffe, P Durcan, A Freeman, A Moran, S Coen, D Coen, A Dillon
We are pretty threadbare at this stage.
http://mayogaa.com/news/371975/Statement_Re_Lee_Keegan_Incident_v_Cork
Quote from: Gael85 on January 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
http://mayogaa.com/news/371975/Statement_Re_Lee_Keegan_Incident_v_Cork
Surprised at Rochey, what was he at?
Has anyone got around to asking Aidan O'Se who he thinks Mayo should amalgamate with in order to have a chance at winning Sam?
:D ;)
Really poor performance . Thoughts of next sat night are depressing ones , we are weeks behind compared to last few years at this stage .
Quote from: twohands!!! on January 31, 2016, 07:11:20 PM
Has anyone got around to asking Aidan O'Se who he thinks Mayo should amalgamate with in order to have a chance at winning Sam?
:D ;)
Yeah, I think he was talking about Kerry, it'd tidy up loyalty issues for the family! ;)
A bad start for new management. Time will tell whether the appetite is still there but there were many lacklustre performances. I felt that the new players were let down a bit by their more experienced teammates. New guys need to rely on the established members of the team to set the tone for the performance and the required intensity and approach was lacking today.
Terrible performance and it won't get any easier against the Dubs next week. Another big negative points difference could be significant on the last day.
Still very early days though
I wouldn't panic lads.It's January at the end of the day.
Most seasons in the last 5 seasons ye have taken a tanking in one game or other in the league which had no bearing on the season to follow.
At the end of the day ye are miles better than the rest of us in Connacht right now & ye're season doesn't really start until August.
That's the sad reality for the rest of us in Connacht at the moment.
Quote from: galwayman on January 31, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
I wouldn't panic lads.It's January at the end of the day.
Most seasons in the last 5 seasons ye have taken a tanking in one game or other in the league which had no bearing on the season to follow.
At the end of the day ye are miles better than the rest of us in Connacht right now & ye're season doesn't really start until August.
That's the sad reality for the rest of us in Connacht at the moment.
Speak for yerselves lads. We had as many injuries as Mayo today and didn't ship a hammering against a better side. It's a pity Galway of all counties feel downtrodden enough to consider Connacht a no-hope prospect.
Quote from: Nihilist on January 31, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
Supposed to have been reported on the radio Keegan will defo be out for next weekend
Plus McLoughlin unlikely as well as pulled hammer. Plus Higgins and Keane missing and Conroy long term absentee.
Add that to the rest unavailable cos of club or other injuries or only still to come back for new year
SOShea, COConnor, B Moran, T Cunniffe, P Durcan, A Freeman, A Moran, S Coen, D Coen, A Dillon
We are pretty threadbare at this stage.
Any word on David Clarke? I think we are badly missing his kick-outs at the moment.
Quote from: Syferus on January 31, 2016, 07:47:15 PM
Quote from: galwayman on January 31, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
I wouldn't panic lads.It's January at the end of the day.
Most seasons in the last 5 seasons ye have taken a tanking in one game or other in the league which had no bearing on the season to follow.
At the end of the day ye are miles better than the rest of us in Connacht right now & ye're season doesn't really start until August.
That's the sad reality for the rest of us in Connacht at the moment.
Speak for yerselves lads. We had as many injuries as Mayo today and didn't ship a hammering against a better side. It's a pity Galway of all counties feel downtrodden enough to consider Connacht a no-hope prospect.
We'll see we'll see.
But I would be extremely surprised if Mayo didn't win Connacht again in 2016.
Time will tell
Quote from: Syferus on January 31, 2016, 07:47:15 PM
Quote from: galwayman on January 31, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
I wouldn't panic lads.It's January at the end of the day.
Most seasons in the last 5 seasons ye have taken a tanking in one game or other in the league which had no bearing on the season to follow.
At the end of the day ye are miles better than the rest of us in Connacht right now & ye're season doesn't really start until August.
That's the sad reality for the rest of us in Connacht at the moment.
Speak for yerselves lads. We had as many injuries as Mayo today and didn't ship a hammering against a better side. It's a pity Galway of all counties feel downtrodden enough to consider Connacht a no-hope prospect.
Blah blah blah , you never stfu do ya.
Quote from: larryin89 on January 31, 2016, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 31, 2016, 07:47:15 PM
Quote from: galwayman on January 31, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
I wouldn't panic lads.It's January at the end of the day.
Most seasons in the last 5 seasons ye have taken a tanking in one game or other in the league which had no bearing on the season to follow.
At the end of the day ye are miles better than the rest of us in Connacht right now & ye're season doesn't really start until August.
That's the sad reality for the rest of us in Connacht at the moment.
Speak for yerselves lads. We had as many injuries as Mayo today and didn't ship a hammering against a better side. It's a pity Galway of all counties feel downtrodden enough to consider Connacht a no-hope prospect.
Blah blah blah , you never stfu do ya.
;D
Awful day for Ross with Westmeath getting bate also ;)
Generally in the opening 10 or 15 minutes you can get a sense of what the team is going to do for the rest of the match, if they're up for it or not etc. Today, it was grim reading from the start. The spark, or whatever you want to call it wasn't there early on. OK, we had got level early on, but to me it was in a way undeserved. The flatness continued until the game was out of sight, and as I said earlier the last 5 points in a row put a gloss on the performance.
I must say that the so-called inexperienced players were not to blame. I thought our more 'regulars' were not firing on all cylinders today. Keegan, Boyle and McLoughlin (when he was on) excepted. I don't know what the management are trying to do with Parsons, he's either in the middle of the field or he's not. Why he was in the edge of the square now and again, I don't know - maybe it was to land frees in on top of him, but it didn't make sense. I thought Gibbons struggled today as well. Cork more or less broke even at midfield and I didn't expect that coming.
I could go on about Vaughan and his inability to defend, I won't bother - however we must find a number 6 who can command that position. It's not exactly rocket science for a half back to sit back after delivering the ball, especially today when the moves broke down on a constant basis. Maybe he was instructed to follow the ball and leave space for the Cork forwards to operate, I don't know but he's always at it so I'm not sure if it was a management directive.
To compound our negatives, Keegan and McLoughlin are unlikely to start the next day, against Dublin.
The few positives are Harrison, and Conor O'Shea, yes I'll admit I'm not his biggest fan, but he improved in the second half I must say. I suppose we shouldn't apportion too much blame on the two new Garrymore men, who didn't do an awful lot wrong for the result. Caff held his own too. Hennelly was my 'Mayo' man of the match and that says it all when the keeper gets that award.
Fair dues to Cork, they could have won it by more if they wanted, they showed our forwards how to kick with the breeze and how to kick against the breeze, although the breeze seemed to have died a little in the second half when we were shooting with it.
Really hope Keegan is ok. I winced on my seat when the collision happened.
I heard a lad behind me saying that mayo were going to get hammered in every match and that relegation has been coming for a few years, FFS!
Just a few things:
- This is what Cork do, for the rest of the league they won't hit the points they hit in the last 10 minutes of the first half. I had heard Goulding was flying, he was excellent yesterday
- Its an away league match, thats all we've lost
- I thought the first 15 minutes were good, I was happy out, we had the cork lads at arms length
- It is very worrying that Rochford could not see that Cork were just fisting the ball back at us on our sickouts, all it took was someone to stand under it to win the breaks, or maybe not kick it out
- Hennelly, for all his great saves, is a liability
- Regan is not the messiah, looking at him yesterday he's at least a year away from being able for senior IC football, the little jinks and dummy solos get eaten up by good backs. And get your hands on the f**king ball before you start throwing the shoulder. And tackle, put some work in rather than a token effort at looking like your working, have a look at DOC, COS or Jason Doc for an example. I really hope theres more to him than what was there yesterday
- Mikey Sweeney - where do you start
- Not a great fan of COS but a good second half yesterday. Harrison was very good IMO and the two Barrymore lads were decent
- Another depressing day in Cork but you'd hope that the misplaced passes we saw when we had the upper hand in the first half are just rustiness
With Division 1 as tight as it is points difference could decide who goes up or down. I think management need to be shrewder in terms of game management. Everyone knew we were missing a lot of key players so I don't know why a more defensive and counter attacking approach was not taken with these 2 big games in mind.
I also think that the game was not a true reflection on the players as a lot didn't play up to standards or were clearly off the pace. Also a lot of excuses were flying around national media all week about how many we were missing. I wonder did maybe some of this get into the players heads and they ended up going down there in a negative frame of mind. Overall it was a very lacklustre performance without the physicality I would expect from our team. Keegan's shoulder on Cadogen was the first major belt a Mayo man put in in that game. That was in the 50th minute and the damage was already complete at that stage.
Anyway plenty of food for thought after it. Biggest problem now is that we are missing both Lee and probably McLoughlin for Saturday nights visit on top of everyone else. I hope that management have some plan for the Dubs. We should play to our strengths and if we are missing over half a team compensation should be made in some other form e.g. a more defensive approach.
Nice to see a lot of direct (not aimless) kick passing by both sides as well. Impressed with Cork's execution of that, and Mayo seemed to kick more than they have done previously too. Maybe another string to their bow that Rochford will encourage?
Quote from: Nihilist on February 01, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
I think management need to be shrewder in terms of game management.
Isn't that what Rochey was brought in for?
Wasn't that a criticism the two previous management teams had levelled at them?
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2016, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on February 01, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
I think management need to be shrewder in terms of game management.
Isn't that what Rochey was brought in for?
Wasn't that a criticism the two previous management teams had levelled at them?
Don't mention the war.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 01, 2016, 09:24:50 AM
I heard a lad behind me saying that mayo were going to get hammered in every match and that relegation has been coming for a few years, FFS!
Just a few things:
- This is what Cork do, for the rest of the league they won't hit the points they hit in the last 10 minutes of the first half. I had heard Goulding was flying, he was excellent yesterday
- Its an away league match, thats all we've lost
- I thought the first 15 minutes were good, I was happy out, we had the cork lads at arms length
- It is very worrying that Rochford could not see that Cork were just fisting the ball back at us on our sickouts, all it took was someone to stand under it to win the breaks, or maybe not kick it out
- Hennelly, for all his great saves, is a liability
- Regan is not the messiah, looking at him yesterday he's at least a year away from being able for senior IC football, the little jinks and dummy solos get eaten up by good backs. And get your hands on the f**king ball before you start throwing the shoulder. And tackle, put some work in rather than a token effort at looking like your working, have a look at DOC, COS or Jason Doc for an example. I really hope theres more to him than what was there yesterday
- Mikey Sweeney - where do you start
- Not a great fan of COS but a good second half yesterday. Harrison was very good IMO and the two Barrymore lads were decent
- Another depressing day in Cork but you'd hope that the misplaced passes we saw when we had the upper hand in the first half are just rustiness
Sweeney ...agreed, forget him .Hes been knocking around the panel for a couple of years now.
breaking ball , agreed . The modern game seem to forget the simple things at times.
Regan, totally disagree , bags of potential , persist with regan we will be rewarded in the end. We have to give guys a chance if they have potential..
Hennelly...Clarke is a better choice.
In hindsight I think Cork were always likely to be looking to put down a serious marker in this game - given their last championship game was the Kildare fiasco - (a team who shipped two massive beatings in the championship from Dublin and Kerry)
Also Cork have been back doing collective training for a few more weeks than Mayo which can make a lot of difference early in the season.
The fixture list hasn't been to kind to Mayo, their 2 easiest fixtures on paper are their last 2 games.
I don't see them beating the Dubs next week but stranger things have happened, the 3 games against Donegal, Monaghan & Kerry will give us a greater indication of where Mayo are at.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 01, 2016, 02:40:42 PM
The fixture list hasn't been to kind to Mayo, their 2 easiest fixtures on paper are their last 2 games.
I don't see them beating the Dubs next week but stranger things have happened, the 3 games against Donegal, Monaghan & Kerry will give us a greater indication of where Mayo are at.
Dunno about that. If they truly were 'easy' fixtures, you'd prefer them early to have the points in the bag, and try kick on. If you are struggling, and your confidence is down, those easy fixtures at the end might not turn out that way in actuality.
Quote from: Syferus on February 01, 2016, 12:48:37 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2016, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on February 01, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
I think management need to be shrewder in terms of game management.
Isn't that what Rochey was brought in for?
Wasn't that a criticism the two previous management teams had levelled at them?
Don't mention the war.
Who can forget Mayo losing the AI final by a point to Dublin in 2013 and Horan not realising Dublin had two players unable to move for the last ten minutes.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 01, 2016, 09:24:50 AM
I heard a lad behind me saying that mayo were going to get hammered in every match and that relegation has been coming for a few years, FFS!
Just a few things:
- This is what Cork do, for the rest of the league they won't hit the points they hit in the last 10 minutes of the first half. I had heard Goulding was flying, he was excellent yesterday
- Its an away league match, thats all we've lost
- I thought the first 15 minutes were good, I was happy out, we had the cork lads at arms length
- It is very worrying that Rochford could not see that Cork were just fisting the ball back at us on our sickouts, all it took was someone to stand under it to win the breaks, or maybe not kick it out
- Hennelly, for all his great saves, is a liability
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- Regan is not the messiah, looking at him yesterday he's at least a year away from being able for senior IC football, the little jinks and dummy solos get eaten up by good backs. And get your hands on the f**king ball before you start throwing the shoulder. And tackle, put some work in rather than a token effort at looking like your working, have a look at DOC, COS or Jason Doc for an example. I really hope theres more to him than what was there yesterday
- Mikey Sweeney - where do you start
- Not a great fan of COS but a good second half yesterday. Harrison was very good IMO and the two Barrymore lads were decent
- Another depressing day in Cork but you'd hope that the misplaced passes we saw when we had the upper hand in the first half are just rustiness
Totally agree on Hennelly.Aimless kickout after aimless kickout it was like Limerick all over again.
Quote from: heffo on January 31, 2016, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
http://mayogaa.com/news/371975/Statement_Re_Lee_Keegan_Incident_v_Cork
Surprised at Rochey, what was he at?
Rochey? Who's Rochey?
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on February 01, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 31, 2016, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
http://mayogaa.com/news/371975/Statement_Re_Lee_Keegan_Incident_v_Cork
Surprised at Rochey, what was he at?
Rochey? Who's Rochey?
The Roch. Stevie R. James Horan the Third.
Quote from: mayoman dan on February 01, 2016, 06:35:36 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 01, 2016, 09:24:50 AM
I heard a lad behind me saying that mayo were going to get hammered in every match and that relegation has been coming for a few years, FFS!
Just a few things:
- This is what Cork do, for the rest of the league they won't hit the points they hit in the last 10 minutes of the first half. I had heard Goulding was flying, he was excellent yesterday
- Its an away league match, thats all we've lost
- I thought the first 15 minutes were good, I was happy out, we had the cork lads at arms length
- It is very worrying that Rochford could not see that Cork were just fisting the ball back at us on our sickouts, all it took was someone to stand under it to win the breaks, or maybe not kick it out
- Hennelly, for all his great saves, is a liability
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- Regan is not the messiah, looking at him yesterday he's at least a year away from being able for senior IC football, the little jinks and dummy solos get eaten up by good backs. And get your hands on the f**king ball before you start throwing the shoulder. And tackle, put some work in rather than a token effort at looking like your working, have a look at DOC, COS or Jason Doc for an example. I really hope theres more to him than what was there yesterday
- Mikey Sweeney - where do you start
- Not a great fan of COS but a good second half yesterday. Harrison was very good IMO and the two Barrymore lads were decent
- Another depressing day in Cork but you'd hope that the misplaced passes we saw when we had the upper hand in the first half are just rustiness
Totally agree on Hennelly.Aimless kickout after aimless kickout it was like Limerick all over again.
+1
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2016, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on February 01, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 31, 2016, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
http://mayogaa.com/news/371975/Statement_Re_Lee_Keegan_Incident_v_Cork
Surprised at Rochey, what was he at?
Rochey? Who's Rochey?
All the lads call him Rochey
Yeah? Well, your lads will be calling him 'Daddy' on Saturday night sonny. ;)
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on February 01, 2016, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2016, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on February 01, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 31, 2016, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on January 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
http://mayogaa.com/news/371975/Statement_Re_Lee_Keegan_Incident_v_Cork
Surprised at Rochey, what was he at?
Rochey? Who's Rochey?
All the lads call him Rochey
Yeah? Well, your lads will be calling him 'Daddy' on Saturday night sonny. ;)
Ballix, we could be in for a paddling.
Big Aido in midfield - everyone else spread out.