wont affect anyone on here, unless of course you employ casual labour
Hot women and cheap drink. Sounds like a good decision to me.
Italians are raging apparently.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 18, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
Hot women and cheap drink. Sounds like a good decision to me.
Italians are raging apparently.
well they may have had a better chance if they didnt have a match fixing scandal ( and subsequently downgraded punishments after pressure from most powerful club), have fans who kill policemen,fans who stab foreign visitors and policemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Its hard to see how anything about Italian football can been seen positively at the moment.
Its hard to see how anything about Italian football can been seen positively at the moment.
Oh yeah and they are world cup champions too.
im sure its great comfort for all the people to know they got done by the World Champs. ;)
saying that the poles are not sqeaky clean either. The Government recently sacked the FA and Septic Bladder had to go inand "resolve " it
Poland and Ukraine have been chosen to host the 2012 European Championships.
Italy were widely expected to win the Uefa vote in Cardiff, with another joint bid from Croatia and Hungary also in the running.
However, Italy's bid was overshadowed by last season's referee corruption scandal and their on-going problems with football-related crowd trouble.
It will be the first time that either Poland or Ukraine have hosted a major football championship.
"Finally, the big event is going to the countries which have had no opportunities to improve football," said Polish Football Association chairman Michal Listkiewicz.
"This big tournament will be a milestone in the common history of two Slavic nations."
Poland and Ukraine's bid team staged an impressive presentation on Tuesday, featuring Chelsea striker Andriy Shevchenko, Liverpool keeper Jerzy Dudek as well as boxer Vitali Klitschko, former Olympic champion Sergei Bubka and Ukraine president Victor Yushchenko.
Nonetheless, the bid was still considered the outsider of the three, partly because of a recent match-fixing scandal in Poland.
The Polish government has also been warned by Uefa and Fifa about political interference in the country's football governing body.
Nigel Adderley, BBC Five Live's reporter in Cardiff, said: "It's a massive slap in the face to Italian football. The complete outsiders will host Euro 2012, and Italy are beaten. "Michel Platini looked shocked when he announced the decision.
"Only last night, members of the Uefa executive committee seemed to be saying they would go for a safe pair of hands.
"They were hinting that although Italy has had problems, they still felt it is place that can develop a tournament and has the experience."
Uefa chief executive Platini is known to be keen to redress the balance of power in football throughout Europe and he appears to be supported by Uefa's 14-man executive committee.
According to Uefa sources, Poland and Ukraine won in the first round of voting with eight of the 12 votes while four went to Italy and none to Croatia and Hungary.
It will be first time the former eastern bloc has hosted the tournament since Yugoslavia in 1976.
Games will be played in four Ukrainian cities (Dnipropetrovsk, Donetsk, Kiev and Lviv) and six Polish venues (Gdansk, Krakow, Poznan, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Chorzow).
Kiev's Olympic Stadium, used to host football at the 1980 Moscow Olympics, is the proposed venue for the final.
The tournament will feature 16 teams, although Uefa is looking into increasing that to 24 from 2016 onwards.
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
Havent seen unedited footage Sammy are you talking about the United or Spurs fans?
Ukraine is some craic, very cheap beer, good looking women, but lots of mafia tyes about and its riddled with corruption. Not unlike Italy really.
So thats it then, all the Poles here will be heading home shortly to take part in the big construction of new stadium and infrastructure needed.
Quote from: dubnut on April 18, 2007, 12:05:55 PM
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
Havent seen unedited footage Sammy are you talking about the United or Spurs fans?
United fans, Spurs weren't in Italy.
Hardly suprising the Italinas didnt get it, what with the match fixing & violence at games.
Good enough for the greasy pr1cks
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
every single one of them?? that would obviously include my mates father, 68 years of age, who was beaten up while he sat on the seat, ended up with an overnight stay in hospital and a brain scan, or maybe that woman from UWS who had her camera snatched by the police and was whacked round the head repeatedly when trying to get it back, or numerous other examples of people that were not inciting violence who were whacked.
The peelers whacked anyone near them, thats indiscriminate
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
every single one of them?? that would obviously include my mates father, 68 years of age, who was beaten up while he sat on the seat, ended up with an overnight stay in hospital and a brain scan, or maybe that woman from UWS who had her camera snatched by the police and was whacked round the head repeatedly when trying to get it back, or numerous other examples of people that were not inciting violence who were whacked.
The peelers whacked anyone near them, thats indiscriminate
The video evidence http://mediacenter.corriere.it/MediaCenter/action/player?uuid=7e20c102-e436-11db-8b30-0003ba99c53b (http://mediacenter.corriere.it/MediaCenter/action/player?uuid=7e20c102-e436-11db-8b30-0003ba99c53b) would suggest that those who got hit were 'involved'. I don't see any pensioners or oul girls in this footage but I wasn't there so I'll bow to your superior knowledge.
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: dubnut on April 18, 2007, 12:05:55 PM
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
Havent seen unedited footage Sammy are you talking about the United or Spurs fans?
United fans, Spurs weren't in Italy.
Where did the Spurs fans get a few smacks?
Dont really follow the ould soccer.
Typical English supporters, acting the maggot but when they get a smack they start whining. For once i agree with SammyG.
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on April 18, 2007, 12:49:49 PM
Typical English supporters, acting the maggot but when they get a smack they start whining. For once i agree with SammyG.
Not all of them act the maggot.
The Spanish police battered a Spurs fan who was in a wheelchair, totally out of order.
Quote from: blasmere on April 18, 2007, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on April 18, 2007, 12:49:49 PM
Typical English supporters, acting the maggot but when they get a smack they start whining. For once i agree with SammyG.
Not all of them act the maggot.
The Spanish police battered a Spurs fan who was in a wheelchair, totally out of order.
We are talking about Manure fans in Rome.....
see woman in white hat about 1.10 secs in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH7ODTRmxjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH7ODTRmxjw)
plenty of other footage on various media sources.
Some caused trouble some didnt, plenty of both got whacked.
I dont suppose Id need to mention the GMP police office who ended up in a Rome hospital with three broken ribs after being whacked by an Italian officer. Pesky GMP always up to no good.
this thread was about Poland and the Ukraine before it got 'Sammy Sidetracked'.
Anyone know what the venues are , if they are building new stadiums etc?
this link will tell you everything about each venue
http://www2.e2012.org/en/29_993.html
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
Im no lover of Manure or their fans, but the beating was discriminate. There were two sets of fans charging at the fence and throwing missiles, but yet only one set of fans got slapped!
Anyway, I'm glad Italy has missed out - they have already had two World Cups and a European Championship.
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: SammyG on April 18, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AMpolicemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.
every single one of them?? that would obviously include my mates father, 68 years of age, who was beaten up while he sat on the seat, ended up with an overnight stay in hospital and a brain scan, or maybe that woman from UWS who had her camera snatched by the police and was whacked round the head repeatedly when trying to get it back, or numerous other examples of people that were not inciting violence who were whacked.
The peelers whacked anyone near them, thats indiscriminate
The video evidence http://mediacenter.corriere.it/MediaCenter/action/player?uuid=7e20c102-e436-11db-8b30-0003ba99c53b (http://mediacenter.corriere.it/MediaCenter/action/player?uuid=7e20c102-e436-11db-8b30-0003ba99c53b) would suggest that those who got hit were 'involved'. I don't see any pensioners or oul girls in this footage but I wasn't there so I'll bow to your superior knowledge.
ah now sammy - a mates 68 year old father gets whacked.
Surely youd have to agree that some "civillians" got caught in the carnage
did a guy in a wheelchair not get whacked?
The fact that you are in a wheelchair does not put you above the law, a paraplegic was jailed yesterday in England i think for knocking someone over whilst drink driving ;) ;)
True Syd. However about the jailed disabled man in England. He's disabled because of the accident.
QuoteSurely youd have to agree that some "civillians" got caught in the carnage
dont know whether thats naive , funny or both!!!!
Everyone still guilty and deserving of a whack sammy? just checking , you never know ...
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 08:59:43 PM
Everyone still guilty and deserving of a whack sammy? just checking , you never know ...
I haven't seen any evidence of any people getting whacked, who weren't attacking the peelers. The clip that you posted clearly shows the peelers being attacked and reacting to it. The CCTV footage shows several minutes of charges/seat throwing etc,before the peelers respond. If any 'innocent' people were still in the 'front line' after 3 or 4 minutes then they probabaly deserve a slap for stupidity (and for wearing Stone Island jackets and baseball caps).
Ha ha ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
your profile is complete
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 09:22:57 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
your profile is complete
??? ::) ???
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6528715.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6528715.stm)
hope these NI scumbags stay away from united in future, and that Joel Taggart is a bare faced liar
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6528715.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6528715.stm)
hope these NI scumbags stay away from united in future, and that Joel Taggart is a bare faced liar
Joel Taggart got punched by a Roma fan, outside the ground. Nothing to do with the peelers. ::) His version of what happened inside is totally contradicted by the video evidence but sure don't let the facts get in the way.
you should try it sometime.
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 10:00:40 PM
you should try it sometime.
Brilliant response.
Can you explain why the video shows the peelers taking 3 to 4 minutes of abuse before the wade in but in your world the peelers just waded in indiscriminately lamping people?
can you explain how in your world every single person who was hit deserved it?
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 10:18:39 PM
can you explain how in your world every single person who was hit deserved it?
When did I say that? I said that the peelers reacted to the hooligans and didn't just attack indiscriminately. If any innocent people were hurt (and I haven't seen any) then they should blame the cnuts that were throwing chairs, not the peelers.
the original
Quote from: An Fear Rua on Today at 11:37:02 AM
policemen who batter foreign visitors indiscriminately live on TV beamed around the world.
Totally agree with the rest of your comments but I think this one has been shown to be nonsense, once the uneditted footage was seen. The supporters charged, threw chairs and bottles, kicked, punched and spat at the peelers, who then responded with batons. Hardly an indiscriminate battering.Quotehooligans and didn't just attack indiscriminately
so some of their attacking was indiscriminate was it? just not all of it? attack is very strong word to use, the defence might just pick up on that.
QuoteIf any innocent people were hurt (and I haven't seen any) then they should blame the cnuts that were throwing chairs, not the peelers.
so what your saying is that basically there is a possibilty that some of those who were hurt were innocent, say for example an elderly man sitting in a seat casuing no trouble but who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or maybe a woman who was trying to get her camera back being punched in the face and smacked on the head with a baton, if they had any grievences they should take them up with the hooligans that were throwing stuff at the cops? fair enough.
but then again as none of them were innocent in your eyes , that couldnt happen , it would all be their own fault
that video i posted clearly shows the afore mentionmed woman, she is taking pictures, she isnt throwing a chair, but deserves all she gets in your book.......
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 10:34:33 PM
that video i posted clearly shows the afore mentionmed woman, she is taking pictures, she isnt throwing a chair, but deserves all she gets in your book.......
Sorry but you clearly have problems with your sight. The clip you posted shows the woman punching and kicking at the peeler who then smacks her. Was the peelers reaction a bit over the top, probably, was the woman an innocent bystander, definitely not.
:D :D :D
and your sight only seems to have seen part of the previous post.
you're very insecure, and quite obvioulsy have not got the balls to admit that your wrong.
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 10:48:47 PM
:D :D :D
and your sight only seems to have seen part of the previous post.
you're very insecure, and quite obvioulsy have not got the balls to admit that your wrong.
WTF are you on about? How am I wrong, you posted the bloody video, not me. ::)
ooh temper temper
Taxi for white!!!
Quote from: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 01:14:22 PM
this thread was about Poland and the Ukraine before it got 'Sammy Sidetracked'.
Anyone know what the venues are , if they are building new stadiums etc?
Here you can see the projects of the stadiums for Euro 2012. The first one is Baltic Arena
that will be built in Gdansk. To see the others just click where it says "Nastepne".
http://sport.onet.pl/74318,1248685,31395,0,0,fotoreportaz.html