QuoteA ghost ship full of cannibalistic rats may be headed towards Irish shorelines. The unmanned 1,600-tonne MV Lyubov Orlova has been drifting in the Atlantic with no crew or tracking beacon for nearly a year.
Originally a cruise-liner designed to take holidaymakers on tours around the Arctic, the Russian-registered cruise ship was cut adrift while being towed from Canada in February 2013.
The 40-year-old cruise liner, which was built in the former Yugoslavia and named after a 1930s Russian actress, was accidentally lost en route to the Dominican Republic after the tow line between the ship and an American-owned tug broke. According to reports, 50km/h winds prevented the crew from reconnecting the ships, and the Orlova was left to drift out into the ocean.
The Irish Coast Guard claims Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar has "not been sufficiently advised" of the full consequences of reorganisation proposals.
Coastguards, satellite providers and a team of Dutch salvage hunters have spent the last 12 months trying to track down the ship. Maritime law dictates that if you discover a derelict vessel, you are entitled to claim ownership and the owner must pay a release fee. However, despite their best efforts, neither satellite technology nor scuba-diving adventurers have been able to track down the 100-metre long cruise liner, which boasts a restaurant and a gym.
The Irish Coast Guard has been leading the search for the Orlova since it went adrift last year. "We haven't seen it," said Chris Reynolds, Director of the Irish Coast Guard. "We spent a couple of months using satellite radar technology to look at the areas it might be but we couldn't find the Orlova."
However, recent winter storms may have driven the ship towards Irish and UK shores. Some reports suggest the rats may be left with nothing to eat but each other.
However, Mr Reynolds has said large numbers of rats on a derelict ship is quite normal. "It was empty for a year in Newfoundland, so it wouldn't be at all unusual for there to be lots of rats," he said. "You get rats in all vessels and there's ways of dealing with them."
Mr Reynolds believes that strong hurricane-force weather may have actually sunk the ship. "Our model says that if it is still there it will turn up somewhere around Achill Island," said Mr Reynolds, "but really it could turn up anywhere between Iceland and Portugal. "
"The biggest risk is something hitting it at speed in the dark," he added. The Irish Coast Guard has called off the search but says it will remain "vigilant".
The missing sea liner has developed quite a following over the last year with a blog and Twitter account dedicated to the search for the Orlova. @LyubovOrlovaNL tweeted on Thursday night: "Is okay now, rats have found lettuce to eat. But having rats that live for full year in empty boat without freezing still leetle problem."
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/rat-infested-russian-ghost-ship-drifts-towards-irish-coast-1.1666881
Qué?
Nobody knows where the ship is.
Nobody knows where the ship is heading.
Nobody knows if its afloat or not.
From this information the Irish Times produce a headline saying that the ship is "heading our way"
Quote from: blanketattack on January 24, 2014, 11:26:06 PM
Nobody knows where the ship is.
Nobody knows where the ship is heading.
Nobody knows if its afloat or not.
From this information the Irish Times produce a headline saying that the ship is "heading our way"
You won't be so cheeky when the cannibal rats take over the country.
Quote from: blanketattack on January 24, 2014, 11:26:06 PM
Nobody knows where the ship is.
Nobody knows where the ship is heading.
Nobody knows if its afloat or not.
From this information the Irish Times produce a headline saying that the ship is "heading our way"
Somewhere between Iceland and Portugal! ;D A distance of about 1500 miles!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 24, 2014, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on January 24, 2014, 11:26:06 PM
Nobody knows where the ship is.
Nobody knows where the ship is heading.
Nobody knows if its afloat or not.
From this information the Irish Times produce a headline saying that the ship is "heading our way"
Somewhere between Iceland and Portugal! ;D A distance of about 1500 miles!
I smell a rat
Fox news reporting that Alex Ferguson has been seen jumping off the ship which is taking in water. MV Theatre of Dreams is apparently the real name of the ship.
If we could get rid of the rats it would do my floating hoorhouse casino idea
A planned Fianna Fail invasion perhaps.
Is the only item of the ship menu ratatouille?
If its going to land it will probably land somewhere like Galway bay at the height of summer, the gov will set up a committee to oversee what to do, they'll hire a team of consultants and €20m later they'll decide to pay someone to take it away and they'll make €5m having been paid another €2m to take it off our hands.
Following the scandal that will emerge on the costs wasted, the public accounts committee will set up a tribunal costing €15m that will recommend a new maritime dept be set up and blame no one.
The rats will stay for a week and get on the next shop outa town.
Quote from: Bingo on January 25, 2014, 12:42:47 PM
If its going to land it will probably land somewhere like Galway bay at the height of summer, the gov will set up a committee to oversee what to do, they'll hire a team of consultants and €20m later they'll decide to pay someone to take it away and they'll make €5m having been paid another €2m to take it off our hands.
Following the scandal that will emerge on the costs wasted, the public accounts committee will set up a tribunal costing €15m that will recommend a new maritime dept be set up and blame no one.
The rats will stay for a week and get on the next shop outa town.
that's near enough I'd say
Panics off. Shes heading for scotland. No need to worry about housing or getting the rats benefits etc.. Scots coastguard are on high alert for the ghost ship according to the scotish news.
How do they not know where this boat is? I wouldnt like to fall overboard not much chance of being found when they cant find a big ship
Quote from: lawnseed on January 27, 2014, 08:21:49 AM
Panics off. Shes heading for scotland. No need to worry about housing or getting the rats benefits etc.. Scots coastguard are on high alert for the ghost ship according to the scotish news.
How do they not know where this boat is? I wouldnt like to fall overboard not much chance of being found when they cant find a big ship
How often do you cross the Atlantic by ship Lawnseed?
My plane could crash.. They'd find me with my arms wrapped round the black box
It's quite a good metaphor for the Eurozone leadership
Or ireland.
A hopeless vessel afloat in the atlantic coming down with rats..
You'd imagine, in this day and age, that someone would have put a tracking device of some sort on this ship!!
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
You'd imagine, in this day and age, that someone would have put a tracking device of some sort on this ship!!
That farmer that lost the tractor would soon find her
If she ran ashore in Mayo the rats will probably opt to remain on board! :)
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
You'd imagine, in this day and age, that someone would have put a tracking device of some sort on this ship!!
By law they are required to carry an ELT but.................
http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf (http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf)
Given the often violent nature of aircraft accidents it's not surprising that in New Zealand the records show that ELTs fail in 86 per cent of incidents involving injury or death. In the 82 such accidents between 1999 and 2008, 73 aircraft were carrying ELTs – but only 10 sent a signal. This is not just a local issue; US accident data puts the failure rate at about 75 per cent.
How do rats pilot a ship ?
Quote from: under the bar on January 27, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
If she ran ashore in Mayo the rats will probably opt to remain on board! :)
Well the locals have a habit of making a harsh welcome as Norse/Viking raiders, the Tudor Navy, Barbary Pirates and Spanish Armada all learnt to their cost when they messed around the coast of what is now Mayo.
Quote from: muppet on January 27, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
You'd imagine, in this day and age, that someone would have put a tracking device of some sort on this ship!!
By law they are required to carry an ELT but.................
http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf (http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf)
Given the often violent nature of aircraft accidents it's not surprising that in New Zealand the records show that ELTs fail in 86 per cent of incidents involving injury or death. In the 82 such accidents between 1999 and 2008, 73 aircraft were carrying ELTs – but only 10 sent a signal. This is not just a local issue; US accident data puts the failure rate at about 75 per cent.
I'm not sure that is relevant. A small plane crashing might be wrecked. This is a large ship, still afloat, and the size and weight of a tracking device is not an issue, a giant indestructible yoke with big batteries could easily be used.
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 27, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
You'd imagine, in this day and age, that someone would have put a tracking device of some sort on this ship!!
By law they are required to carry an ELT but.................
http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf (http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf)
Given the often violent nature of aircraft accidents it's not surprising that in New Zealand the records show that ELTs fail in 86 per cent of incidents involving injury or death. In the 82 such accidents between 1999 and 2008, 73 aircraft were carrying ELTs – but only 10 sent a signal. This is not just a local issue; US accident data puts the failure rate at about 75 per cent.
I'm not sure that is relevant. A small plane crashing might be wrecked. This is a large ship, still afloat, and the size and weight of a tracking device is not an issue, a giant indestructible yoke with big batteries could easily be used.
All aircraft and small boats must carry ELTs. I am fairly certain the big ships would have to as well. Probably one per lifeboat.
Quote from: muppet on January 27, 2014, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 27, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
You'd imagine, in this day and age, that someone would have put a tracking device of some sort on this ship!!
By law they are required to carry an ELT but.................
http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf (http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-11-Guest-Comment-ELT.pdf)
Given the often violent nature of aircraft accidents it's not surprising that in New Zealand the records show that ELTs fail in 86 per cent of incidents involving injury or death. In the 82 such accidents between 1999 and 2008, 73 aircraft were carrying ELTs – but only 10 sent a signal. This is not just a local issue; US accident data puts the failure rate at about 75 per cent.
I'm not sure that is relevant. A small plane crashing might be wrecked. This is a large ship, still afloat, and the size and weight of a tracking device is not an issue, a giant indestructible yoke with big batteries could easily be used.
All aircraft and small boats must carry ELTs. I am fairly certain the big ships would have to as well. Probably one per lifeboat.
Yip. The two beacons they got from her last year were likely from life boats detaching from the liner.
Quote from: lawnseed on January 27, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
My plane could crash.. They'd find me with my arms wrapped round the black box
And I bet she wouldn't be happy about that but hey, nothing wrong with one last fling. By the way, you'd be better wrapping your arms around the orange box.
Quote from: muppet on January 27, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 27, 2014, 08:21:49 AM
Panics off. Shes heading for scotland. No need to worry about housing or getting the rats benefits etc.. Scots coastguard are on high alert for the ghost ship according to the scotish news.
How do they not know where this boat is? I wouldnt like to fall overboard not much chance of being found when they cant find a big ship
How often do you cross the Atlantic by ship Lawnseed?
On my life's list of things to do is an Atlantic crossing on the QM2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6prEaKOvHDg).
QuoteWell the locals have a habit of making a harsh welcome as Norse/Viking raiders, the Tudor Navy, Barbary Pirates and Spanish Armada all learnt to their cost when they messed around the coast of what is now Mayo.
Judging by the brown eyes and swarthy skin of a high percentage of you westerners it seems the Mayo and Galway ladies gave the Armada sailors a very warm welcome indeed!
Quote from: under the bar on January 27, 2014, 09:58:19 PM
QuoteWell the locals have a habit of making a harsh welcome as Norse/Viking raiders, the Tudor Navy, Barbary Pirates and Spanish Armada all learnt to their cost when they messed around the coast of what is now Mayo.
Judging by the brown eyes and swarthy skin of a high percentage of you westerners it seems the Mayo and Galway ladies gave the Armada sailors a very warm welcome indeed!
Galway may have but Armada ships that landed in Mayo had their crews murdered on the beachs.
Our Iberian characteristics are more likely a result of Ireland's oldest settlers.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 27, 2014, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 27, 2014, 09:58:19 PM
QuoteWell the locals have a habit of making a harsh welcome as Norse/Viking raiders, the Tudor Navy, Barbary Pirates and Spanish Armada all learnt to their cost when they messed around the coast of what is now Mayo.
Judging by the brown eyes and swarthy skin of a high percentage of you westerners it seems the Mayo and Galway ladies gave the Armada sailors a very warm welcome indeed!
Galway may have but Armada ships that landed in Mayo had their crews murdered on the beachs.
Our Iberian characteristics are more likely a result of Ireland's oldest settlers.
Not all of them.
http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Mayo/Towns/Geesala/spanish-armada.htm (http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Mayo/Towns/Geesala/spanish-armada.htm)
Looking at the horrible little hoody hobbits around dundalk and drogheda you'd question the sexual preferences of the many vikings that arrived on that coast. not too many 7ft dolf lungren lookalikes playing for louth. Theres something seriously wrong in dundalk never saw as many wee rats in the one town theyre like a sub species
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 27, 2014, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 27, 2014, 09:58:19 PM
QuoteWell the locals have a habit of making a harsh welcome as Norse/Viking raiders, the Tudor Navy, Barbary Pirates and Spanish Armada all learnt to their cost when they messed around the coast of what is now Mayo.
Judging by the brown eyes and swarthy skin of a high percentage of you westerners it seems the Mayo and Galway ladies gave the Armada sailors a very warm welcome indeed!
Galway may have but Armada ships that landed in Mayo had their crews murdered on the beachs.
Our Iberian characteristics are more likely a result of Ireland's oldest settlers.
Not the case at all, a lot of of the "brown eyed and swarthy skin" locals can trace their bloodlines back to Spain, also surnames live Lavelle can be traced back to there as well.
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 28, 2014, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 27, 2014, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 27, 2014, 09:58:19 PM
QuoteWell the locals have a habit of making a harsh welcome as Norse/Viking raiders, the Tudor Navy, Barbary Pirates and Spanish Armada all learnt to their cost when they messed around the coast of what is now Mayo.
Judging by the brown eyes and swarthy skin of a high percentage of you westerners it seems the Mayo and Galway ladies gave the Armada sailors a very warm welcome indeed!
Galway may have but Armada ships that landed in Mayo had their crews murdered on the beachs.
Our Iberian characteristics are more likely a result of Ireland's oldest settlers.
Not the case at all, a lot of of the "brown eyed and swarthy skin" locals can trace their bloodlines back to Spain, also surnames live Lavelle can be traced back to there as well.
The Lavelles of Achill and most of Connacht are the O Maol Fabhail. Also most other Irish Lavelles are from Gaelic Clans. The name is found in England from both Irish moving there and FRENCH (not Spanish) Huguenots. The French name itself my have Irish origins too.
Quote from: lawnseed on January 28, 2014, 09:58:16 AM
Looking at the horrible little hoody hobbits around dundalk and drogheda you'd question the sexual preferences of the many vikings that arrived on that coast. not too many 7ft dolf lungren lookalikes playing for louth. Theres something seriously wrong in dundalk never saw as many wee rats in the one town theyre like a sub species
Lawnseed, tell us what you like about Gaels.
No sign of the rat boat yet? When she didnt turn up over the last week weather i'd say shes at the bottom rats and all.
How feckin difficult can it be to find out where this is?
I am sure all big ships have some GPS locator (FFS my phone has an app to identify ships) and even if this is 'off-line' is that not some satellite that can find it. Jazes, if the Americans can see a Taliban scratch his hole in Afghanistan surely then they can find a big fcuk off ship on the oceans.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 04, 2014, 09:35:12 AM
How feckin difficult can it be to find out where this is?
I am sure all big ships have some GPS locator (FFS my phone has an app to identify ships) and even if this is 'off-line' is that not some satellite that can find it. Jazes, if the Americans can see a Taliban scratch his hole in Afghanistan surely then they can find a big fcuk off ship on the oceans.
Yep. But you have no idea how interested americans are in taliban holes. Dont forget the canadian gov. Cut this boat loose in international waters in the full knowledge she'd head our way
Quote from: lawnseed on February 04, 2014, 09:10:22 AM
No sign of the rat boat yet? When she didnt turn up over the last week weather i'd say shes at the bottom rats and all.
Another bit to go before she reaches Galway then?? ;D
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 04, 2014, 06:05:28 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on February 04, 2014, 09:10:22 AM
No sign of the rat boat yet? When she didnt turn up over the last week weather i'd say shes at the bottom rats and all.
Another bit to go before she reaches Galway then?? ;D
and then down to mayo.. ;)
I seen a serious size of a rat the other night.
It seems that the ship landed alright. They're as big as cats.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27156951
Quote from: lawnseed on January 28, 2014, 09:58:16 AM
Looking at the horrible little hoody hobbits around dundalk and drogheda you'd question the sexual preferences of the many vikings that arrived on that coast. not too many 7ft dolf lungren lookalikes playing for louth. Theres something seriously wrong in dundalk never saw as many wee rats in the one town theyre like a sub species
Probably the descendants of all the inbred, on the run, work shy nordies who moved to the town in the early 1970s.
While we are on the subject.......
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