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Title: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 07:32:11 AM
I'm not really a big hurling fan, the inevitable sight of a guy in black and yellow lifting the Liam MC carthy in September is like ground hog day for me.(all credit to kilkenny) however the young lawnseedlings are hurling mad they have good sticks and slithers but they don't last long when the training is 'the stick the ball and the wall' day and night. i was pleased to hear that the sticks and ball were on offer in German supermarket giant lidl. how bad could they be..? the kids could train at home with the cheap stuff and use the good sticks for proper training. so off to lidl in armagh last week and searched the shop no hurling stuff??!!  sold out? nahh.. i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true has anyone seen any hurling stuff in a lidl store in the six counties. this is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties. emails are already in germany no replies as yet. gonna try monaghan
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 13, 2013, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 07:32:11 AM
I'm not really a big hurling fan, the inevitable sight of a guy in black and yellow lifting the Liam MC carthy in September is like ground hog day for me.(all credit to kilkenny) however the young lawnseedlings are hurling mad they have good sticks and slithers but they don't last long when the training is 'the stick the ball and the wall' day and night. i was pleased to hear that the sticks and ball were on offer in German supermarket giant lidl. how bad could they be..? the kids could train at home with the cheap stuff and use the good sticks for proper training. so off to lidl in armagh last week and searched the shop no hurling stuff??!!  sold out? nahh.. i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true has anyone seen any hurling stuff in a lidl store in the six counties. this is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties. emails are already in germany no replies as yet. gonna try monaghan

Not really "making a political point". 

LIDL has different specials in different countries.  The reality is that LIDL U.K. and LIDL ROI are separate companies so offers can vary.

I doubt that Helmut back in the Berlin Head Office is aware that the lawnseeds believe the Good Friday Agreement entitles them to cheap hurling gear and like as not the map on his office wall shows Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

/Jim.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 13, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
QuoteNot really "making a political point". 

Bollix. This is exactly making  political point, LIDL NI is distinct from the GB version and they know exactly what they are doing.
Complain.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 13, 2013, 10:50:08 AM
Could lawnseed not buy a cheap electic saw from Lidl in Norn Iron and fashion his own hurl?

Everyone's a winner then.

On the other hand buying in Monaghan will boost the ROI economy and keep the VAT shillings away from Her Maj.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 10:55:41 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Bollix. This is exactly making  political point, LIDL NI is distinct from the GB version and they know exactly what they are doing.
Complain.

Er, what is it that they know they are doing?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: muppet on June 13, 2013, 01:20:38 PM
Quote from: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 10:55:41 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 13, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Bollix. This is exactly making  political point, LIDL NI is distinct from the GB version and they know exactly what they are doing.
Complain.

Er, what is it that they know they are doing?

Unusually I do think Lawnseed has a point.

If you are doing business in an area you need to be certain of the nature of doing business in that area. Aside from that NI employment discrimination laws are such that it would be impossible not to know the nature of doing business there.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 07:32:11 AM
I'm not really a big hurling fan, the inevitable sight of a guy in black and yellow lifting the Liam MC carthy in September is like ground hog day for me.(all credit to kilkenny) however the young lawnseedlings are hurling mad they have good sticks and slithers but they don't last long when the training is 'the stick the ball and the wall' day and night. i was pleased to hear that the sticks and ball were on offer in German supermarket giant lidl. how bad could they be..? the kids could train at home with the cheap stuff and use the good sticks for proper training. so off to lidl in armagh last week and searched the shop no hurling stuff??!!  sold out? nahh.. i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true has anyone seen any hurling stuff in a lidl store in the six counties. this is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties. emails are already in germany no replies as yet. gonna try monaghan

Good 'sticks'/bad 'sticks' how are you differentiating between these hurls?

Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 13, 2013, 01:20:38 PM
Unusually I do think Lawnseed has a point.

If you are doing business in an area you need to be certain of the nature of doing business in that area. Aside from that NI employment discrimination laws are such that it would be impossible not to know the nature of doing business there.

Not stocking hurleys is discriminatory?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: muppet on June 13, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
Quote from: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 13, 2013, 01:20:38 PM
Unusually I do think Lawnseed has a point.

If you are doing business in an area you need to be certain of the nature of doing business in that area. Aside from that NI employment discrimination laws are such that it would be impossible not to know the nature of doing business there.

Not stocking hurleys is discriminatory?

This is what interested me: "i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true"

Now of course this may be the usual Lawnseed hyperbole.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: grounded on June 13, 2013, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 13, 2013, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 07:32:11 AM
I'm not really a big hurling fan, the inevitable sight of a guy in black and yellow lifting the Liam MC carthy in September is like ground hog day for me.(all credit to kilkenny) however the young lawnseedlings are hurling mad they have good sticks and slithers but they don't last long when the training is 'the stick the ball and the wall' day and night. i was pleased to hear that the sticks and ball were on offer in German supermarket giant lidl. how bad could they be..? the kids could train at home with the cheap stuff and use the good sticks for proper training. so off to lidl in armagh last week and searched the shop no hurling stuff??!!  sold out? nahh.. i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true has anyone seen any hurling stuff in a lidl store in the six counties. this is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties. emails are already in germany no replies as yet. gonna try monaghan

Not really "making a political point". 

LIDL has different specials in different countries.  The reality is that LIDL U.K. and LIDL ROI are separate companies so offers can vary.

I doubt that Helmut back in the Berlin Head Office is aware that the lawnseeds believe the Good Friday Agreement entitles them to cheap hurling gear and like as not the map on his office wall shows Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

/Jim.


These are the two different pages
http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/SID-96DE773D-20E334F2/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/offerdate.htm?offerdate=32051
http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/index.htm

The special offers are virtually identical every week. I suppose the selling of GAA gear in their local store, might get a few of the brethern a little hot under the collar.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 13, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Not stocking hurleys is discriminatory?

Yup they are making the point but the young lawnseeds want to take their points.

Dónal Óg will never get his Team Ulster off the ground with this going on.

/Jim.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: snoopdog on June 13, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
Lawnseed, i have also just sent them a mail asking why they are not giving the same offer in the North, considering it is the biggest sporting body in the wee 6.
I also noted the request goes to their offices in newbridge co Kildare.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: grounded on June 13, 2013, 01:56:37 PM
The special offers are virtually identical every week. I suppose the selling of GAA gear in their local store, might get a few of the brethern a little hot under the collar.

I was thinking that. My first instinct is the same as Jim's, that corporate Lidl back in the Fatherland are too inflexible to realise that there might be a demand for hurleys in some parts of the UK. After that, I'm wondering whether they're being (overly) sensitive to the possibility of petrol bombs through the windows of their stores. The thought that they want to let the Taigs know that Ulster is British seems a distant third in the list of reasons for not stocking hurleys.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on June 13, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
Lawnseed, i have also just sent them a mail asking why they are not giving the same offer in the North, considering it is the biggest sporting body in the wee 6.
I also noted the request goes to their offices in newbridge co Kildare.

Its heartening to see a demand for hurls in non hurling areas and I'm not talking about Rathcoole..
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: snoopdog on June 13, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on June 13, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
Lawnseed, i have also just sent them a mail asking why they are not giving the same offer in the North, considering it is the biggest sporting body in the wee 6.
I also noted the request goes to their offices in newbridge co Kildare.

Its heartening to see a demand for hurls in non hurling areas and I'm not talking about Rathcoole..

we will need a few hurls in Down now we will be a dual county next summer :)
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: grounded on June 13, 2013, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 13, 2013, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 07:32:11 AM
I'm not really a big hurling fan, the inevitable sight of a guy in black and yellow lifting the Liam MC carthy in September is like ground hog day for me.(all credit to kilkenny) however the young lawnseedlings are hurling mad they have good sticks and slithers but they don't last long when the training is 'the stick the ball and the wall' day and night. i was pleased to hear that the sticks and ball were on offer in German supermarket giant lidl. how bad could they be..? the kids could train at home with the cheap stuff and use the good sticks for proper training. so off to lidl in armagh last week and searched the shop no hurling stuff??!!  sold out? nahh.. i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true has anyone seen any hurling stuff in a lidl store in the six counties. this is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties. emails are already in germany no replies as yet. gonna try monaghan

Not really "making a political point". 

LIDL has different specials in different countries.  The reality is that LIDL U.K. and LIDL ROI are separate companies so offers can vary.

I doubt that Helmut back in the Berlin Head Office is aware that the lawnseeds believe the Good Friday Agreement entitles them to cheap hurling gear and like as not the map on his office wall shows Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

/Jim.


These are the two different pages
http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/SID-96DE773D-20E334F2/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/offerdate.htm?offerdate=32051
http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/index.htm

The special offers are virtually identical every week. I suppose the selling of GAA gear in their local store, might get a few of the brethern a little hot under the collar.
great post. i suppose the same as you do. the main distrubution centres are in nutts corner, newbridge, and mallow. trucks shuttle between these hubs taking various goods from each other then out to the shops. i'll assume that the hurls are delivered to mallow how hard could it be to stick a pallet on the nutts corner trailer.

still no replies this could be a job gaa headquarters
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: laoislad on June 13, 2013, 10:17:43 PM
Quotethis is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties.

Is this true?

lol if it is  ;D
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2013, 10:23:53 PM
Maybe they thought (rightly  :D) that there would no market for hurling sticks in Armagh. For some of the locals it would be like seeing a banana in the shops for the first time.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 13, 2013, 10:30:29 PM
QuoteMaybe they thought (rightly  :D) that there would no market for hurling sticks in Armagh. For some of the locals it would be like seeing a banana in the shops for the first time.

If they can introduce the locals to Kielbasa, they should be able to cope with hurling.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
I'm surprised people on here don't remember that they did stock the hurling stuff bout 3 years back both sides of border.
I got a great stick for my daughter and our club bought a stack of training sliothars.we got them in buncrana road Derry City. I do remember at the time that unionists in loyalist areas of ni publicly voiced their disgust and that the story made the Irish news
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: bennydorano on June 14, 2013, 08:30:03 AM
Yip, i bought senior & junior hurleys and a ball 4/5 years ago, pretty sure i got them in Lidl.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: johnneycool on June 14, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
I'm surprised people on here don't remember that they did stock the hurling stuff bout 3 years back both sides of border.
I got a great stick for my daughter and our club bought a stack of training sliothars.we got them in buncrana road Derry City. I do remember at the time that unionists in loyalist areas of ni publicly voiced their disgust and that the story made the Irish news

I don't voice disgust when I see a cricket bat or NI jersey, they should be told to f**k off.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 14, 2013, 10:45:19 AM
This should allow positive emails be sent along the lines of I hear that the hurling gear is back, when is it coming to my branch. People need to do this and go along and buy some stuff to stop the bigots getting their way.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: AQMP on June 14, 2013, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 13, 2013, 10:17:43 PM
Quotethis is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties.

Is this true?

lol if it is  ;D

No.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: AQMP on June 14, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: grounded on June 13, 2013, 01:56:37 PM
The special offers are virtually identical every week. I suppose the selling of GAA gear in their local store, might get a few of the brethern a little hot under the collar.

I was thinking that. My first instinct is the same as Jim's, that corporate Lidl back in the Fatherland are too inflexible to realise that there might be a demand for hurleys in some parts of the UK. After that, I'm wondering whether they're being (overly) sensitive to the possibility of petrol bombs through the windows of their stores. The thought that they want to let the Taigs know that Ulster is British seems a distant third in the list of reasons for not stocking hurleys.

Indeed, what with Warwickshire's recent success and all that...
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: deiseach on June 14, 2013, 12:03:11 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 14, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: deiseach on June 13, 2013, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: grounded on June 13, 2013, 01:56:37 PM
The special offers are virtually identical every week. I suppose the selling of GAA gear in their local store, might get a few of the brethern a little hot under the collar.

I was thinking that. My first instinct is the same as Jim's, that corporate Lidl back in the Fatherland are too inflexible to realise that there might be a demand for hurleys in some parts of the UK. After that, I'm wondering whether they're being (overly) sensitive to the possibility of petrol bombs through the windows of their stores. The thought that they want to let the Taigs know that Ulster is British seems a distant third in the list of reasons for not stocking hurleys.

Indeed, what with Warwickshire's recent success and all that...

;D
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: gallsman on June 14, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
How many people on here from the North who are put out by this have much of an interest in hurling?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2013, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 14, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
How many people on here from the North who are put out by this have much of an interest in hurling?

Me for 1.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: snoopdog on June 14, 2013, 04:18:49 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2013, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 14, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
How many people on here from the North who are put out by this have much of an interest in hurling?

Me for 1.
It isnt just Hurling they are also selling Gaelic footballs for 9.99 size 4 and 5 good training balls for kids. Plus gloves.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 14, 2013, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 14, 2013, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 13, 2013, 10:17:43 PM
Quotethis is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties.

Is this true?

lol if it is  ;D

No.
you got a nordie kelloggs bowl then???
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 14, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on June 14, 2013, 04:18:49 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2013, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 14, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
How many people on here from the North who are put out by this have much of an interest in hurling?

Me for 1.
It isnt just Hurling they are also selling Gaelic footballs for 9.99 size 4 and 5 good training balls for kids. Plus gloves.
where??
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 14, 2013, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
I'm surprised people on here don't remember that they did stock the hurling stuff bout 3 years back both sides of border.
I got a great stick for my daughter and our club bought a stack of training sliothars.we got them in buncrana road Derry City. I do remember at the time that unionists in loyalist areas of ni publicly voiced their disgust and that the story made the Irish news
so you think lidl norn iron caved to loyalist pressure?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: laoislad on June 14, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
I strolled into my local Lidl today and bought a few hurls.
I didn't need them, I bought them just because I could....

In yo face lawnseed     :D
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 15, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
I can't see what the fuss is about.
I often shop in Lidl's in Newry where I see different items; different prices and different promotions to what's on offer in the south all the time.
Maybe Lidl has caved in to Unionist pressure  and decided not to put hurleys and sliotars on sale at the time  they did so in the republic but I see no evidence of this.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: grounded on June 15, 2013, 11:24:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 14, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
I strolled into my local Lidl today and bought a few hurls.
I didn't need them, I bought them just because I could....

In yo face lawnseed     :D

You should have bought a few of them footballs while you were at it, as youse could do with the practice.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 15, 2013, 12:10:22 PM
QuoteI can't see what the fuss is about.

I think the fuss is about Lidl acting in a partitionist way and facilitating GAA sports in one set of counties and not others.
The "I'm alright Jack" attitude among some posters is frankly sickening, I don't see why any GAA person would not wish to see the sports promoted in all parts of the country.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: grounded on June 15, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 15, 2013, 12:10:22 PM
QuoteI can't see what the fuss is about.

I think the fuss is about Lidl acting in a partitionist way and facilitating GAA sports in one set of counties and not others.
The "I'm alright Jack" attitude among some posters is frankly sickening, I don't see why any GAA person would not wish to see the sports promoted in all parts of the country.

partitionist is it!

http://www.lidl-ni.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-F956B7E4-71B3BFA6/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/lidl-holiday-store-search.htm
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on June 15, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
Here's an idea for anyone who's not happy - spend your money somewhere else.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 15, 2013, 04:40:15 PM
QuoteHere's an idea for anyone who's not happy - spend your money somewhere else.

Of course.
But first off all Lidl should have an opportunity to reply to emails etc, perhaps this is no more than a case of promotions in different weeks etc. If it is deliberate, then it is not just a question of shopping elsewhere without saying why, but of the GAA making clear through the media etc that good will has been lost in this instance.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tonto on June 15, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
This is so pathetic it's laughable.

:D
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 15, 2013, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: grounded on June 15, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 15, 2013, 12:10:22 PM
QuoteI can't see what the fuss is about.

I think the fuss is about Lidl acting in a partitionist way and facilitating GAA sports in one set of counties and not others.
The "I'm alright Jack" attitude among some posters is frankly sickening, I don't see why any GAA person would not wish to see the sports promoted in all parts of the country.

partitionist is it!

http://www.lidl-ni.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-F956B7E4-71B3BFA6/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/lidl-holiday-store-search.htm
the fukn bastards thats it no more shopping in lidl
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on June 15, 2013, 11:18:22 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 15, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
Here's an idea for anyone who's not happy - spend your money somewhere else.

In Kilkenny maybe.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 15, 2013, 11:31:42 PM
on their irish web page they clearly state that lidl aim the be the no.1 supermarket on the island of ireland.. then they proceed to lable the six counties with the ulster banner not the union jack this is clearly contrived by some loyalist or some freestate dummy the sort that talks about londonderry like mr 'do you know who i am' shatter. i cant think of anything more offensive that that white loyalist flag. i had to tackle the farmers journal for using it in a map of ireland relating to grass growth. if we have to have a flag stuck on us let it be the union jack
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 16, 2013, 12:03:52 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 15, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 15, 2013, 11:31:42 PM
on their irish web page they clearly state that lidl aim the be the no.1 supermarket on the island of ireland.
Care to post a link to a page on lidl.ie that states that? I've tried a quick look but I haven't seen it.

Mind you, I'd be surprised if they didn't try to aim to be no.1! ;D
take your time have a proper look. note the rolling eyes from our brothers in the 26. they have'nt a pups notion what its like to try and fight for your culture and basic rights. before miz merkal and the eu are finished with them they'll have a better idea..
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 12:24:22 AM
I am disgusted. Lidl are clearly making a political point. As we all know NI is part of the UK and therefore their web address should be .co.uk, not .ie.  I'm sick of being oppressed; first the Union Flag debacle and now this!  I think everybody should write a letter insisting that this wrong should be righted.  No longer will Ulster's sons and daughters take this affront to our national identity.  I'm sure the Queen would be outraged at this insult not only to her realm but also her people. Maybe we could apply official pressure.  Everyone write to your MP.  I'm sure Conor Murphy and co would be interested in our plight as they are, after all, employees of the United Kingdom.

Ulstermen... Unite!
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 16, 2013, 12:26:48 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 16, 2013, 12:13:45 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 16, 2013, 12:03:52 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 15, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 15, 2013, 11:31:42 PM
on their irish web page they clearly state that lidl aim the be the no.1 supermarket on the island of ireland.
Care to post a link to a page on lidl.ie that states that? I've tried a quick look but I haven't seen it.

Mind you, I'd be surprised if they didn't try to aim to be no.1! ;D
take your time have a proper look.
That's not an answer! ;D ;D

BTW If you had a chance to have "a proper look" at the weekly offers that Lidl put out in their TV adverts and their leaflets, it always says in the front page of the latter that "Offers apply to the Republic of Ireland only" or "Offers apply to Northern Ireland only" depending on the jurisdiction. Just to save you the hassle of scrambling around to look for it, Lidl's latest offers leaflet for the south (http://www.lidl-pageflip.com/ie.html?kid=WwgA7N) and for the north (http://www.lidl-pageflip.com/ie.html?kid=DGHyPR).
i dont care if they are giving the stuff away for free i wont be back until i get a reply to my e-mails as to why they are not selling gaa sports gear in the north of ireland and they choose to use the ulster banner on their store finder page. btw the ulster banner has not been a recognised flag for nearly 40 years it was only ever a celebratery symbol to be used for a short time. its existance is perpetuated by knuckell trailing neandertal loyalists who want to dont want to move on and arsehole freestaters who probably never got past newry and a trolly full of softdrinks and gaint boxes of washing powder... mmoooohh!!!!
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: dillinger on June 16, 2013, 12:30:29 AM
Do Lidel sell N.I.flags?

Well the 12th is coming up soon.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 12:38:03 AM
QuoteSome people aren't happy unless they feel that they're in a permanent state of being oppressed.

It is not a question of being oppressed, there is no reason for Lidl to favour the promotion of GAA sports in one county over another, especially as one suspects they are doing it for political reasons.

QuoteDo Lidel sell N.I.flags?

Well the 12th is coming up soon.

pretty much the sort of recidivist bigotry you would expect on this issue,.

The NI flag is the symbol of a former sectarian state used by bigots.
An O'neills ball is something people kick around in a field. One is politics and inappropriate, one is sport and appropriate. 
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 16, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 12:24:22 AM
I am disgusted. Lidl are clearly making a political point. As we all know NI is part of the UK and therefore their web address should be .co.uk, not .ie.  I'm sick of being oppressed; first the Union Flag debacle and now this!  I think everybody should write a letter insisting that this wrong should be righted.  No longer will Ulster's sons and daughters take this affront to our national identity.  I'm sure the Queen would be outraged at this insult not only to her realm but also her people. Maybe we could apply official pressure.  Everyone write to your MP.  I'm sure Conor Murphy and co would be interested in our plight as they are, after all, employees of the United Kingdom.

Ulstermen... Unite!
which ulster? the bbc one or the gaa one? the point being that if this gear is not on sale in the six counties lidl should state why. clearly the hurls and balls do not come from germany so some irish company has got a deal to supply the stuff to lidl here. clearly lidl recognise a demand of the stuff and an opportunity to turn a profit. clearly the sport is played all over this island, they claim to want to business all over the island so why not supply all their shops and make even more profit? whats stopping them? is it that they would further have to 'edit' the supply to only shops in perceived nationalist areas were they to sell north of the border and its easier just to give it a miss. clearly there is a problem given that according to posts earlier in this thread loyalists objected to the goods in some stores, hardly the same thing as taking down a flag from belfast city hall, but clearly an indication that lord brookborough's 'not a catholic about the place' still resinates with some bigots who need to be exposed.
should lidl be avoiding this problem by ignoring it well i can assure them i will continue to draw attention to this difference.. theres no place to hide..
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: dillinger on June 16, 2013, 02:53:59 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 12:38:03 AM
QuoteSome people aren't happy unless they feel that they're in a permanent state of being oppressed.

It is not a question of being oppressed, there is no reason for Lidl to favour the promotion of GAA sports in one county over another, especially as one suspects they are doing it for political reasons.

QuoteDo Lidel sell N.I.flags?

Well the 12th is coming up soon.

pretty much the sort of recidivist bigotry you would expect on this issue,.

The NI flag is the symbol of a former sectarian state used by bigots.
An O'neills ball is something people kick around in a field. One is politics and inappropriate, one is sport and appropriate.

Well if good enough for Lidel to fly. ;D
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 16, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 12:24:22 AM
I am disgusted. Lidl are clearly making a political point. As we all know NI is part of the UK and therefore their web address should be .co.uk, not .ie.  I'm sick of being oppressed; first the Union Flag debacle and now this!  I think everybody should write a letter insisting that this wrong should be righted.  No longer will Ulster's sons and daughters take this affront to our national identity.  I'm sure the Queen would be outraged at this insult not only to her realm but also her people. Maybe we could apply official pressure.  Everyone write to your MP.  I'm sure Conor Murphy and co would be interested in our plight as they are, after all, employees of the United Kingdom.

Ulstermen... Unite!
which ulster? the bbc one or the gaa one?
Pfft! Partitionist.  Don't think we have forgotten about the occupied 3.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
QuoteDon't think we have forgotten about the occupied 3.

Really? What have you done for them recently?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 05:40:08 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
QuoteDon't think we have forgotten about the occupied 3.

Really? What have you done for them recently?
Bought a wee drop a petrol last week on my way to Rosnowlagh.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on June 16, 2013, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 16, 2013, 12:03:52 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 15, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 15, 2013, 11:31:42 PM
on their irish web page they clearly state that lidl aim the be the no.1 supermarket on the island of ireland.
Care to post a link to a page on lidl.ie that states that? I've tried a quick look but I haven't seen it.

Mind you, I'd be surprised if they didn't try to aim to be no.1! ;D
take your time have a proper look. note the rolling eyes from our brothers in the 26. they have'nt a pups notion what its like to try and fight for your culture and basic rights. before miz merkal and the eu are finished with them they'll have a better idea..
Let me get this straight - you're giving out about those in the south and what Merkel is doing to them... on a thread you started to complain that you can't spend your money in a German supermarket?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 06:32:20 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 13, 2013, 07:32:11 AM
I'm not really a big hurling fan, the inevitable sight of a guy in black and yellow lifting the Liam MC carthy in September is like ground hog day for me.(all credit to kilkenny) however the young lawnseedlings are hurling mad they have good sticks and slithers but they don't last long when the training is 'the stick the ball and the wall' day and night. i was pleased to hear that the sticks and ball were on offer in German supermarket giant lidl. how bad could they be..? the kids could train at home with the cheap stuff and use the good sticks for proper training. so off to lidl in armagh last week and searched the shop no hurling stuff??!!  sold out? nahh.. i was informed that i was in 'lidl uk' and hurling stuff was only sold in 'lidl ireland'!! is this true has anyone seen any hurling stuff in a lidl store in the six counties. this is worse than kelloggs doing the gaa bowls and not doing the nordie counties. emails are already in germany no replies as yet. gonna try monaghan
Most. Oppressed. People. Ever.

P.S. What are these "slithers" of which you speak? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliotar  ;) )
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: bennydorano on June 16, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
It'll be a long time before i read another thread as full of shit as this one, wankers.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on June 16, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
It'll be a long time before i read another thread as full of shit as this one, w**kers.
I doubt that very much.  :P
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: bennydorano on June 16, 2013, 06:38:28 PM
Unfortunately you're probably right.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 06:43:05 PM
Quote from: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 12:24:22 AM
I am disgusted. Lidl are clearly making a political point. As we all know NI is part of the UK and therefore their web address should be .co.uk, not .ie.  I'm sick of being oppressed; first the Union Flag debacle and now this!  I think everybody should write a letter insisting that this wrong should be righted.
Never fear, Tonto:
www.lidl-ni.co.uk
8)
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: qubdub on June 16, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Surely there's a market for kids' hurls in West Belfast. I'd say Lidl have missed out here, their loss.
Quote from: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 06:32:20 PM
Most. Oppressed. People. Ever.
You clearly haven't seen the furore surrounding the names on Coke bottles then!
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: qubdub on June 16, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Surely there's a market for kids' hurls in West Belfast. I'd say Lidl have missed out here, their loss.
Apparently they don't sell Cricket bats in East Belfast, either.

Still, if they stocked Baseball bats, I'd say they'd do the job just as well in both places...  ;)

Quote from: qubdub on June 16, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 06:32:20 PM
Most. Oppressed. People. Ever.
You clearly haven't seen the furore surrounding the names on Coke bottles then!
No, but I bought a nice chicken in M&S the other day, because they assured me it was "British Oakham Chicken - British Chicken from UK Farms we know and trust"

When I looked closer, I noticed the label said: "This Chicken was reared by: M. Maxwell, Co. L/Derry".

I trust it will be delicious.  ;D
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 08:01:12 PM
QuoteMost. Oppressed. People. Ever.

Hardly the most oppressed people ever.
But why should people be oppressed at all, even if others have it worse?

Likewise the Lidl issue is hardly the world's greatest tragedy, but there is no need for it.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 06:43:05 PM
Quote from: Tonto on June 16, 2013, 12:24:22 AM
I am disgusted. Lidl are clearly making a political point. As we all know NI is part of the UK and therefore their web address should be .co.uk, not .ie.  I'm sick of being oppressed; first the Union Flag debacle and now this!  I think everybody should write a letter insisting that this wrong should be righted.
Never fear, Tonto:
www.lidl-ni.co.uk
8)
Well thank goodness for that.  Ok lads, call off the letter writing. Lidl have saved themselves.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 17, 2013, 07:23:54 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 16, 2013, 01:46:25 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 12:38:03 AM
QuoteSome people aren't happy unless they feel that they're in a permanent state of being oppressed.

It is not a question of being oppressed, there is no reason for Lidl to favour the promotion of GAA sports in one county over another, especially as one suspects they are doing it for political reasons.
And how do you or anyone else knows that it is for "political reasons"? At the end of the day, it's far more likely to be business related in a very dull fashion. Maybe the last time GAA gear was stocked in Lidl stores in the north, they didn't sell particularly well, regardless of any pathetic unionist protestations, and that the NI sub-office of Lidl felt it wasn't worth promoting again? Maybe there was issues with licencing in one jurisdiction? Maybe the offers are being held over for northern customers until later this summer, or that any surplus stock will be supplied to certain Lidl stores in the north in the next few weeks? Plenty of shops that have a presence on an 32 county basis often have offers or products that may be promoted in one place but not the other. The majority of the time Lidl's offers are on at the same time at both ends of Ireland, but not always - I've seen this happen in the past with electronic goods offers.

Quite simply the like of Lidl are a business interested in profit, they aren't in it to try and get involved in 'themuns political spats. If in the cold harsh reality of retail that Lidl operate in, they feel that having some GAA equipment in northern stores see hundreds of bigoted loyalists who regularly shop there start boycotting them compared to a couple of dozen lawnseeds to go there occasionally, then you have to weigh up your options even if it may leave a taste in the mouth. Lidl aren't under any obligation to promote the GAA in any one particular place.

If half the whining that has been on this thread was directed by contacting the relevant county boards and the Ulster GAA Council for them to encourage Lidl to stock GAA gear more often - and they will have far more clout that someone sending a green ink email to an uninterested German customer service worker - then something constructive might be done. Alternatively, get you equipment like hurleys sourced from local producers who use local materials and support small local businesses, whereas I guess the sliothars (at least) stocked by Lidl are likely manufactured in Asia.

clearly you do not work in retail "later in the summer"? when the hurling season is over... i reckon your shop is still trying to sell easter eggs
explain the ulster banner.. now not later
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2013, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 17, 2013, 07:23:54 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 16, 2013, 01:46:25 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 16, 2013, 12:38:03 AM
QuoteSome people aren't happy unless they feel that they're in a permanent state of being oppressed.

It is not a question of being oppressed, there is no reason for Lidl to favour the promotion of GAA sports in one county over another, especially as one suspects they are doing it for political reasons.
And how do you or anyone else knows that it is for "political reasons"? At the end of the day, it's far more likely to be business related in a very dull fashion. Maybe the last time GAA gear was stocked in Lidl stores in the north, they didn't sell particularly well, regardless of any pathetic unionist protestations, and that the NI sub-office of Lidl felt it wasn't worth promoting again? Maybe there was issues with licencing in one jurisdiction? Maybe the offers are being held over for northern customers until later this summer, or that any surplus stock will be supplied to certain Lidl stores in the north in the next few weeks? Plenty of shops that have a presence on an 32 county basis often have offers or products that may be promoted in one place but not the other. The majority of the time Lidl's offers are on at the same time at both ends of Ireland, but not always - I've seen this happen in the past with electronic goods offers.

Quite simply the like of Lidl are a business interested in profit, they aren't in it to try and get involved in 'themuns political spats. If in the cold harsh reality of retail that Lidl operate in, they feel that having some GAA equipment in northern stores see hundreds of bigoted loyalists who regularly shop there start boycotting them compared to a couple of dozen lawnseeds to go there occasionally, then you have to weigh up your options even if it may leave a taste in the mouth. Lidl aren't under any obligation to promote the GAA in any one particular place.

If half the whining that has been on this thread was directed by contacting the relevant county boards and the Ulster GAA Council for them to encourage Lidl to stock GAA gear more often - and they will have far more clout that someone sending a green ink email to an uninterested German customer service worker - then something constructive might be done. Alternatively, get you equipment like hurleys sourced from local producers who use local materials and support small local businesses, whereas I guess the sliothars (at least) stocked by Lidl are likely manufactured in Asia.

clearly you do not work in retail "later in the summer"? when the hurling season is over... i reckon your shop is still trying to sell easter eggs
explain the ulster banner.. now not later
Did you check Monaghan yet? Despite my earlier mocking I would be interested in getting some gear for the childer. I might head over later in the week to check. Will keep you posted.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 17, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
Bloody Germans! 

After all Sean Russell and his republicans did for them in the war.  Time for Head Office to put the foot down.......

/Jim.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Nally Stand on June 17, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 17, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
Bloody Germans! 

After all Sean Russell and his republicans did for them in the war.  Time for Head Office to put the foot down.......

/Jim.

Always meant to ask....why the signature?

/NoPoint
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 17, 2013, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 17, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Always meant to ask....why the signature?

/NoPoint

Force of habit that betrays my age...days before fora were as fancy as this.

Back in the day it was regarded as good manners.

I have conceeded to no longer using "Yours etc.." and replaced it with the text-speak "/"

/Jim.


Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 17, 2013, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
It'll be a long time before i read another thread as full of shit as this one, w**kers.

i'm sure this comment about wankers is not about anyone on this board  :o
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 18, 2013, 12:25:05 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
It'll be a long time before i read another thread as full of shit as this one, w**kers.

It will be trumped when someone buys a LIDL satnav and drives across the border!
Imagine the reaction when "Herr Tom Tom" says you are now entering "GroßBritannien" and this little chap pops up: (http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/public/style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

/Jim.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on June 18, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: qubdub on June 16, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Surely there's a market for kids' hurls in West Belfast. I'd say Lidl have missed out here, their loss.
Apparently they don't sell Cricket bats in East Belfast, either.

Still, if they stocked Baseball bats, I'd say they'd do the job just as well in both places...  ;)

Quote from: qubdub on June 16, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on June 16, 2013, 06:32:20 PM
Most. Oppressed. People. Ever.
You clearly haven't seen the furore surrounding the names on Coke bottles then!
No, but I bought a nice chicken in M&S the other day, because they assured me it was "British Oakham Chicken - British Chicken from UK Farms we know and trust"

When I looked closer, I noticed the label said: "This Chicken was reared by: M. Maxwell, Co. L/Derry".

I trust it will be delicious.  ;D

Over here in Britain, lots of shop sell "British and Irish meat/produce" or "British Isles" trying to fool the poor little Brits into thinking it is British meat. When you look closer it is all Tipperary, Kerry, Wexford etc.

Republican meat feeding the sons and daughters of the Empire and cashing in.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 19, 2013, 07:23:10 AM
a reply to my question about gaa gear in lidl. i ask when gaa hurls would be on sale in armagh as they were in monaghan.

in reply i'm told that my "concerns" have been passed on to the purchasing dept for furture reference but that there are no plans at present. they are going to e-mail me about other sports equipment and offers that might interest me. ???

i didnt realise i had 'concerns' i was merely making a trade inquiry.

trying to find out why we are lable with the loyalist ulster banner now about which i am "concerned"

Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on June 19, 2013, 07:33:30 AM
Life must be good if that's a concern.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2013, 08:47:26 PM
Those Lidl 4th of July ads - fantastic. I want a milkshake now.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:39:54 PM
in reply to my enquiry regarding the use of the ulster banner re the six counties on lidl storefinder maps. i have been told that the matter has been referred to the advertising dept. they apologise for any offence caused.

I'll wait to see if they bother to change it before i arm my photon torpedoes..
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on July 02, 2013, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
Oh to have so little to worry about!
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
For what reason(s) do you prefer the Union flag then?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
For what reason(s) do you prefer the Union flag then?
well for now it is the actual fleg of this place.. ask jamie or wullie.. the ulster banner is the flag of nowhere its a loyalist paramilitary symbol..
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
For what reason(s) do you prefer the Union flag then?
well for now it is the actual fleg of this place.. ask jamie or wullie.. the ulster banner is the flag of nowhere its a loyalist paramilitary symbol..
Do you not think it's a bit simplistic to say that it is solely a loyalist paramilitary symbol?  By the same argument, given the IRA's association with the tricolour, then that flag too could perhaps be described as a republican paramilitary symbol also.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 02, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
For what reason(s) do you prefer the Union flag then?
well for now it is the actual fleg of this place.. ask jamie or wullie.. the ulster banner is the flag of nowhere its a loyalist paramilitary symbol..
The ulster banner is a flag close to the heart of many thousands of Irish men and women - unless you take the view that loyalists aren't really Irish people at all, which is grand, but if they're not really Irish, then maybe they are a separate people like they've been saying for all these years and as such, deserving of the right to self determination, just like the Irish. If you do happen to think that loyalists can be Irish too, then the Ulster banner is an Irish flag, just like the tricolour, so where's the problem?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on July 02, 2013, 11:31:26 PM
The Ulster banner is only the flag of a political faction, one with rather repellent views. It is not the flag of a legitimate place and so has no business on a supermarket website.

QuoteThe ulster banner is a flag close to the heart of many thousands of Irish men and women

One imagines that this is a flag close to hearts of may thousands of men and women in Lidl's homeland., should it also have a place?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg/200px-Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg.png)
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: grounded on July 02, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
For what reason(s) do you prefer the Union flag then?
well for now it is the actual fleg of this place.. ask jamie or wullie.. the ulster banner is the flag of nowhere its a loyalist paramilitary symbol..
Do you not think it's a bit simplistic to say that it is solely a loyalist paramilitary symbol?  By the same argument, given the IRA's association with the tricolour, then that flag too could perhaps be described as a republican paramilitary symbol also.

Was about to say I never read such cr*p in all my life, but unfortunately had a look at a few of your other posts.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 02, 2013, 11:31:26 PM
The Ulster banner is only the flag of a political faction, one with rather repellent views. It is not the flag of a legitimate place and so has no business on a supermarket website.

One imagines that this is a flag close to hearts of may thousands of men and women in Lidl's homeland., should it also have a place?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg/200px-Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg.png)

the flag of this place is the union jack. the ulster banner is not the flag of the 6 counties nor is it the the ulster flag nor is it the flag of the ulster rugby team as some loyalists seem to think. its use on the lidl website to depict the six counties doesn't stand up and neither do the letters ie or nie as depicted regarding the 26 counties since the correct letters are IRL. This slip up tells us exactly where the boob has been made.. deutsland
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: michaelg on July 03, 2013, 07:38:48 AM
Quote from: grounded on July 02, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 02, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on June 28, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
the use of the ulster banner... ? no reply..  i'll try again.. i watch too much vincent..
What's the craic with the Ulster banner?
It obviously is offensive to you so it must mean something to 'themmuns,' but I don't know what the fuss is about.

if i have to endure a foreign flag i'd rather the butchers apron than the ulster banner thats how bad it is to me.. >:(
For what reason(s) do you prefer the Union flag then?
well for now it is the actual fleg of this place.. ask jamie or wullie.. the ulster banner is the flag of nowhere its a loyalist paramilitary symbol..
Do you not think it's a bit simplistic to say that it is solely a loyalist paramilitary symbol?  By the same argument, given the IRA's association with the tricolour, then that flag too could perhaps be described as a republican paramilitary symbol also.

Was about to say I never read such cr*p in all my life, but unfortunately had a look at a few of your other posts.
So anyone who identifies with the Ulster banner automatically supports loyalist paramilitaries?  Incidentally, I was not saying that the tricolour is a republican paramilitary symbol, I was simply saying that the same simplistic argument could be applied.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on July 02, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
the flag of this place is the union jack. the ulster banner is not the flag of the 6 counties nor is it the the ulster flag nor is it the flag of the ulster rugby team as some loyalists seem to think. its use on the lidl website to depict the six counties doesn't stand up and neither do the letters ie or nie as depicted regarding the 26 counties since the correct letters are IRL. This slip up tells us exactly where the boob has been made.. deutsland


It's amazing what you can get in Lidl.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 03, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 02, 2013, 11:31:26 PM
The Ulster banner is only the flag of a political faction, one with rather repellent views. It is not the flag of a legitimate place and so has no business on a supermarket website.

QuoteThe ulster banner is a flag close to the heart of many thousands of Irish men and women

One imagines that this is a flag close to hearts of may thousands of men and women in Lidl's homeland., should it also have a place?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg/200px-Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg.png)
Now you're showing your political biases. Saying that NI is not a legitimate place is flying in the face of the evidence, since the existence of NI is a fact acknowledged by various international treaties. You may not like that or agree with it, but take it up with your political rep. Comparing the Ulster banner to the swastika again betrays your own prejudice and ignorance. Like I said earlier, the Ulster banner is the flag of choice of many thousands of your fellow countrymen and women. Branding them all Nazis won't do much for the cause of Irish reunification, IMO.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on July 03, 2013, 09:44:41 PM
NI may be a legitimate place, but the Ulster Banner has no status.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on July 03, 2013, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on July 03, 2013, 09:44:41 PM
NI may be a legitimate place, but the Ulster Banner has no status.
thats a fact.  the tricolor is however a real flag. the zwastika was also a real symbol  before it was hyjacked by hitler and his crowd. hence the zwastika laundries in dublin
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on July 03, 2013, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 03, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
Comparing the Ulster banner to the swastika again betrays your own prejudice and ignorance.

Both the Ulster Banner and the Swastika were flags formerly officially used by unpleasant ethnic regimes and still used by extremist political factions. The difference is that Germans, by and large, have reflected on their past and learnt from it, something others could usefully do.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 04, 2013, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 03, 2013, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 03, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
Comparing the Ulster banner to the swastika again betrays your own prejudice and ignorance.

Both the Ulster Banner and the Swastika were flags formerly officially used by unpleasant ethnic regimes and still used by extremist political factions. The difference is that Germans, by and large, have reflected on their past and learnt from it, something others could usefully do.
Comparing Ulster unionists with Nazis is like comparing Joey Barton with the Yorkshire Ripper. Catch a grip.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on July 04, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
QuoteComparing Ulster unionists with Nazis is like comparing Joey Barton with the Yorkshire Ripper. Catch a grip.

Ah yes, the frequent unionist proposition that we aren't the worst so that makes it OK, hence the frequent use of terms like MOPE to deflect criticism.
The unionist project is of similar character to that of the Nazis, although I fully accept that the Nazis were several orders of magnitude worse.
But the Nazis being worse doesn't make it right.

Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 04, 2013, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 04, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
QuoteComparing Ulster unionists with Nazis is like comparing Joey Barton with the Yorkshire Ripper. Catch a grip.

Ah yes, the frequent unionist proposition that we aren't the worst so that makes it OK, hence the frequent use of terms like MOPE to deflect criticism.
The unionist project is of similar character to that of the Nazis, although I fully accept that the Nazis were several orders of magnitude worse.
But the Nazis being worse doesn't make it right.
You still haven't got it. The Nazis weren't 'several orders of magnitude worse' than unionists any more than the Yorkshire Ripper could be said to be several orders of magnitude worse than Joey Barton. The comparison is invalid full stop. Compare unionists to some similar right wing governments if you want - look down south in the De valera era for an example if you're stuck - but comparing them to  the Nazis says more about your prejudices than it does about unionists.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on July 04, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
The unionist project is to invade their neighbours and turn them into "hewers of wood and drawers of water".
Not so different from the Nazis, but less severe as I said.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 04, 2013, 09:15:42 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 04, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
The unionist project is to invade their neighbours and turn them into "hewers of wood and drawers of water".
Not so different from the Nazis, but less severe as I said.
Which neighbours have northern unionists invaded recently? By recently I mean sometime in the last 100 years or so. Okay then, the last 200 years. Take your time...
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on July 04, 2013, 09:32:29 PM
Clontibret.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 04, 2013, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 04, 2013, 09:32:29 PM
Clontibret.
Right.  ::)
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 01, 2013, 09:35:56 PM
Lidl in the 26 are now cheaper for most things than lidl in the 6!  Kind of blows tescos arguement about it being more expensive to do business in the south out of the water. Truth is they were just ripping. Mexicans out of it. Fair play to lidl
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on November 01, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
QuoteLidl in the 26 are now cheaper for most things than lidl in the 6!

Competition has improved generally in the 26. But the main reason is that 26 county Lidl are head to head with Aldi.

Great altogether http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL7jyXCQ2Zc
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 08:01:59 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 01, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
QuoteLidl in the 26 are now cheaper for most things than lidl in the 6!

Competition has improved generally in the 26. But the main reason is that 26 county Lidl are head to head with Aldi.

Great altogether http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL7jyXCQ2Zc
Good for mexicans and nordies along the border then? No sign of aldi coming north? Or are they here already.. Mrs lawnseed looks that department
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: ziggy90 on November 02, 2013, 08:03:45 AM
Mrs lawnseed looks that department

Who are you trying to kid??? ;) Right, heading off to Aldi now :).
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 08:21:25 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on November 02, 2013, 08:03:45 AM
Mrs lawnseed looks that department

Who are you trying to kid??? ;) Right, heading off to Aldi now :).
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Are aldi in the 6 already? I honesty wouldnt have a clue. Dont think ive saw any
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Aldi is not in the North. There is good value there on the basic shopping items and they keep the others honest. In the 26, Tesco an Dunnes have all these vouchers back and so on to try and stay competitive. Someone paying attention could reduce their bill by 10-20% easily enough.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: ziggy90 on November 02, 2013, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 08:21:25 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on November 02, 2013, 08:03:45 AM
Mrs lawnseed looks that department

Who are you trying to kid??? ;) Right, heading off to Aldi now :).
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Are aldi in the 6 already? I honesty wouldnt have a clue. Dont think ive saw any

I don't know if Aldi are in the 6 or not, I'm only blackguarding.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Aldi is not in the North. There is good value there on the basic shopping items and they keep the others honest. In the 26, Tesco an Dunnes have all these vouchers back and so on to try and stay competitive. Someone paying attention could reduce their bill by 10-20% easily enough.
If i"d been shopping in tesco or dunned and suddenly they started getting Cheaper I dont think i'd be impressed when theyve been crying poverty. What about biffo "get them f**kers in here" it didnt make much difference to them but once the gerrys arrived they had to drop
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on November 02, 2013, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Aldi is not in the North. There is good value there on the basic shopping items and they keep the others honest. In the 26, Tesco an Dunnes have all these vouchers back and so on to try and stay competitive. Someone paying attention could reduce their bill by 10-20% easily enough.
If i"d been shopping in tesco or dunned and suddenly they started getting Cheaper I dont think i'd be impressed when theyve been crying poverty. What about biffo "get them f**kers in here" it didnt make much difference to them but once the gerrys arrived they had to drop
Tesco were crying poverty? When?
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 02, 2013, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Aldi is not in the North. There is good value there on the basic shopping items and they keep the others honest. In the 26, Tesco an Dunnes have all these vouchers back and so on to try and stay competitive. Someone paying attention could reduce their bill by 10-20% easily enough.
If i"d been shopping in tesco or dunned and suddenly they started getting Cheaper I dont think i'd be impressed when theyve been crying poverty. What about biffo "get them f**kers in here" it didnt make much difference to them but once the gerrys arrived they had to drop
Tesco were crying poverty? When?
When the leader of the country asked them to explain the gap in prices between 6 and 26. They told him it was his fault. Now they are cutting simply because the market can no longer sustain their rip off ways
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 07:27:20 PM
Tesco were coining it for years. But like those who are now shopping in Aldi, when push comes to shove it is possible to save quite a bit.
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 05, 2013, 05:43:18 PM
Tesco must be on the back foot.. they even mention lidl and aldi now in their tv ads on rte... good
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: Maguire01 on November 05, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 02, 2013, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Aldi is not in the North. There is good value there on the basic shopping items and they keep the others honest. In the 26, Tesco an Dunnes have all these vouchers back and so on to try and stay competitive. Someone paying attention could reduce their bill by 10-20% easily enough.
If i"d been shopping in tesco or dunned and suddenly they started getting Cheaper I dont think i'd be impressed when theyve been crying poverty. What about biffo "get them f**kers in here" it didnt make much difference to them but once the gerrys arrived they had to drop
Tesco were crying poverty? When?
When the leader of the country asked them to explain the gap in prices between 6 and 26. They told him it was his fault. Now they are cutting simply because the market can no longer sustain their rip off ways
Capitalism, eh? Who'd have thought it?!
Title: Re: LIDL, making a political point? whats the story?
Post by: lawnseed on November 05, 2013, 10:40:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 05, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 02, 2013, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 02, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 02, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Aldi is not in the North. There is good value there on the basic shopping items and they keep the others honest. In the 26, Tesco an Dunnes have all these vouchers back and so on to try and stay competitive. Someone paying attention could reduce their bill by 10-20% easily enough.
If i"d been shopping in tesco or dunned and suddenly they started getting Cheaper I dont think i'd be impressed when theyve been crying poverty. What about biffo "get them f**kers in here" it didnt make much difference to them but once the gerrys arrived they had to drop
Tesco were crying poverty? When?
When the leader of the country asked them to explain the gap in prices between 6 and 26. They told him it was his fault. Now they are cutting simply because the market can no longer sustain their rip off ways
Capitalism, eh? Who'd have thought it?!
more like opportunism