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Title: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out 
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: rrhf on April 09, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
id like to see a railway link to half the north restored. Id like to see the blocking of the A5 development which is a modern day equivalent of the railways removal stopped.  Our politicians should not be allowed to interfere with making transport amenable or safer.  It becomes a sectarian or vote winning decision. 













Rant over.. 
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: laoislad on April 09, 2013, 11:01:48 PM
My hair.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: 5 Sams on April 09, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out
Agree about the canal. I have lived close to it all my life and know the history. Would be a great leisure resource now.....however in the 80s the brainy folks in the Newry Council and a host of other govt agencies decided to build fixed bridges without the capacity to let boats through from the Albert Basin northwards. I have walked the towpath many times and it's a disgrace the way the canal is now.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: rrhf on April 09, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
id like to see a railway link to half the north restored. Id like to see the blocking of the A5 development which is a modern day equivalent of the railways removal stopped.  Our politicians should not be allowed to interfere with making transport amenable or safer.  It becomes a sectarian or vote winning decision. 













Rant over..
calm down do you want the road to go ahead or not? restoration can be very relaxing.....
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 09, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out
Agree about the canal. I have lived close to it all my life and know the history. Would be a great leisure resource now.....however in the 80s the brainy folks in the Newry Council and a host of other govt agencies decided to build fixed bridges without the capacity to let boats through from the Albert Basin northwards. I have walked the towpath many times and it's a disgrace the way the canal is now.
there was also a branch of that canal that went to clones.. that would be handy as well ;)
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
Lawnseed I am sure you have seen the petitions around Armagh to re-establish the train line from Belfast (via Portadown) to Armagh. Really don't see it coming off or any real need for it.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 11:22:39 PM

Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 09, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out
Agree about the canal. I have lived close to it all my life and know the history. Would be a great leisure resource now.....however in the 80s the brainy folks in the Newry Council and a host of other govt agencies decided to build fixed bridges without the capacity to let boats through from the Albert Basin northwards. I have walked the towpath many times and it's a disgrace the way the canal is now.
there was also a branch of that canal that went to clones.. that would be handy as well ;)
(http://www.craigavonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/rev/images/ulstercanalmap.gif)

Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
Lawnseed I am sure you have seen the petitions around Armagh to re-establish the train line from Belfast (via Portadown) to Armagh. Really don't see it coming off or any real need for it.
toney thats not the kind of thing i had in mind unless your thinking of a steam train. any time i pass portadown station the train is empty so as you say there no demand for that service. wouldnt you like to see canal barges passing through middletown? travelling along side the armagh monaghan road. jeez i think it'd be fantastic.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 11:22:39 PM

Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 09, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out
Agree about the canal. I have lived close to it all my life and know the history. Would be a great leisure resource now.....however in the 80s the brainy folks in the Newry Council and a host of other govt agencies decided to build fixed bridges without the capacity to let boats through from the Albert Basin northwards. I have walked the towpath many times and it's a disgrace the way the canal is now.
there was also a branch of that canal that went to clones.. that would be handy as well ;)
(http://www.craigavonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/rev/images/ulstercanalmap.gif)
ahh jeez now your really turing me on. newry to limerick by boat??? stopping off a a few canal side pub restuarants for a snack and a beverage 'rock me mamma...'
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:33:05 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 09, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out
Agree about the canal. I have lived close to it all my life and know the history. Would be a great leisure resource now.....however in the 80s the brainy folks in the Newry Council and a host of other govt agencies decided to build fixed bridges without the capacity to let boats through from the Albert Basin northwards. I have walked the towpath many times and it's a disgrace the way the canal is now.
5 sams how would those canal type boats manage on lough neagh would it not be dangerous?
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: qubdub on April 09, 2013, 11:48:45 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
Lawnseed I am sure you have seen the petitions around Armagh to re-establish the train line from Belfast (via Portadown) to Armagh. Really don't see it coming off or any real need for it.
toney thats not the kind of thing i had in mind unless your thinking of a steam train. any time i pass portadown station the train is empty so as you say there no demand for that service. wouldnt you like to see canal barges passing through middletown? travelling along side the armagh monaghan road. jeez i think it'd be fantastic.
What time of night does that be at? The P'down-Belfast commuter line is probably the busiest on the network. Personally would like to see more investment in public transport, specifically railways. Too expensive though. Cost millions upon millions just to lay track, never mind get the land required, build bridges, tunnels, stations etc.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: tyssam5 on April 10, 2013, 12:55:29 AM
Stormont. (oh wait....)
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Armaghgeddon on April 10, 2013, 01:05:06 AM
Armagh football team.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: armaghniac on April 10, 2013, 01:18:31 AM
The Celtic Tiger
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Eamonnca1 on April 10, 2013, 01:30:59 AM
The thing about railways is they're treated differently from roads, unfairly IMHO. The tracks and signalling alone are not the only thing factored into the cost, they also include stations and rolling stock when quoting the price.  But when quoting the price of roads they only quote the price of the road itself, not the cost of any vehicles running on it.  So trains are expected to be "economical", and unbelievably they're expected to make a profit in Britain.  Meanwhile, nobody expects the Highways Agency to make a profit, and everyone accepts that car ownership is a loss-making endeavour.  If a more sensible approach were taken to public transport then it'd be great to see the railway line restored to Armagh. 

When I lived in England I found it very easy to live without a car, you could get just about anywhere in the city and anywhere in the country by train.  Even small villages in the middle of Yorkshire had train stops and were accessible from the national railway network, and that's after the infamous Beeching Axe.  Imagine what it was like before, the country must have been completely riddled with railways.

Canals would be a great catch for tourists all right.  I thought the Newry Canal was opened again, or is that just the towpath?  Shame about the low bridges if that's the problem.  I wonder if it's possible to get around that with locks, surely you could lower the stretch of water that goes under the bridge?

Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: NetNitrate on April 10, 2013, 02:11:36 AM
Good public transport especially rail should be a right and is beneficial to any thriving economy as people go places, eg matches, and spend. No matter what way you look at it, the Irish are one of the dumbest races on earth. Destroying the rail system instead of havng the foresight to build on it is but one example. Ghosts estates and general bad planning all come from the same dark hole in Paddys brilliant mind. We are a horrid lot altogether.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2013, 04:48:56 AM
National investment banks

The Border commission
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2013, 05:30:57 AM
Trams in Galway
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 10, 2013, 07:17:30 AM
My faith in humanity
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: LeoMc on April 10, 2013, 08:41:47 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 11:22:39 PM

Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 09, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on April 09, 2013, 10:57:17 PM
are there any things or buildings of interest near you that you'd love to see in action again. some time ago there was talk of reopening the newry to portadown canal. england is plastered in canals i think they're fascinating and are a great tourist attraction. surely we could have just one. imagine if you could travel from from coalisland right through to newry by boat. also there used to be a train from newry to warrenpoint imagine a small tram shuttling back and forth maybe just in the summer months.. maybe theres something completely different you'd like to see. i hear there are some new old buildings at the ulster american folk park definitely a good day out
Agree about the canal. I have lived close to it all my life and know the history. Would be a great leisure resource now.....however in the 80s the brainy folks in the Newry Council and a host of other govt agencies decided to build fixed bridges without the capacity to let boats through from the Albert Basin northwards. I have walked the towpath many times and it's a disgrace the way the canal is now.
there was also a branch of that canal that went to clones.. that would be handy as well ;)
(http://www.craigavonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/rev/images/ulstercanalmap.gif)
ahh jeez now your really turing me on. newry to limerick by boat??? stopping off a a few canal side pub restuarants for a snack and a beverage 'rock me mamma...'

There is / was some push by Waterways Ireland to re-open the Ulster canal but again it was money promised by the Irish Government so it will not be happening any time soon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16504284
https://www.waterways.org.uk/waterways/restoration/ulster_canal/ulster_canal_overview
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: T Fearon on April 10, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
1. Capital Punishment
2. The Latin Mass
3. Compulsory womens' head coverings at Mass.
4. Corporal Punishment in Schools.
5. Wee triangular discs for the car windscreen and Customs Posts at the Border with the Free State.


As you can, I am a real radical ;D
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: blanketattack on April 10, 2013, 09:59:30 AM
My lawn, both the one in my garden and on my head
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 10, 2013, 10:05:36 AM
The Evening Press
Crackerjack
The Glen Abbey Show on the radio
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Tubberman on April 10, 2013, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 10, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
1. Capital Punishment
2. The Latin Mass
3. Compulsory womens' head coverings at Mass.
4. Corporal Punishment in Schools.
5. Wee triangular discs for the car windscreen and Customs Posts at the Border with the Free State.


As you can, I am a real radical ;D

Ye are full of contradictions in the North, no doubt about it.  ;)
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 10, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
keady steam bakery. the best bread you ever tasted. better than the dough you get now. i remember tearing into fresh loaf with a good lump of fanevalley butter and the bread still warm just out of the bread van. there are several pale imitations on the go.. but you cant ask "is keady on your cart?" a reference to the bread vans/carts
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Pangurban on April 10, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
Good Manners
Courtesy
Respect for Others
Downs greatness
Coleens dancing at the Crossroads
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Orior on April 10, 2013, 09:39:09 PM
I too would like to see the Newry-Portadown Canal restored, as I basicallly grew up in it, fished in it, paddled in it, and fell in it. Getting it back in shaped would be a huge expense. Lots of Humpback bridges were replaced with flat bridges and some farmers even removed the bank so as to maximise their acreage. If it was restored I would definitely take a barge from east to west.

I'd also like to restore the age of innocence, and respect for authority.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: armaghniac on April 10, 2013, 09:47:34 PM
I'd like to restore
- my old hard disk that crashed
- my 1990 waistline
- my 2009 salary
- The Sunday Tribune
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: AZOffaly on April 10, 2013, 09:52:03 PM
Is 'restored again' a tautology?
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 10, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 10, 2013, 09:52:03 PM
Is 'restored again' a tautology?
its possible to restore something twice ;)
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 10, 2013, 10:43:45 PM
Ballaghaderreen
Inishbofin
Inishshark
1925 All-Ireland Title.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: ranch on April 10, 2013, 10:54:07 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 10, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
1. Capital Punishment
2. The Latin Mass
3. Compulsory womens' head coverings at Mass.
4. Corporal Punishment in Schools.
5. Wee triangular discs for the car windscreen and Customs Posts at the Border with the Free State.


As you can, I am a real radical ;D

It's hard to tell whether you're taking the piss or not  :)
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
1980s
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Orior on April 10, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 10, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
1. Capital Punishment
2. The Latin Mass
3. Compulsory womens' head coverings at Mass.
4. Corporal Punishment in Schools.
5. Wee triangular discs for the car windscreen and Customs Posts at the Border with the Free State.

As you can, I am a real radical ;D

I hate seeing men wearing hats or caps inside the Church. It goes against my upbringing (some might call it something else). But to me it shows disrespect.

Then I have to say to myself, well at least they are inside the Church.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: rrhf on April 11, 2013, 08:02:29 AM
Downs greatness 5 big years in 129 shouldn't take much restoration
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: seafoid on April 11, 2013, 10:05:34 AM
Mairtin O Direain
Aodh Rua O Domhnaill
Christy Ring 
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: seafoid on April 11, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
A borderless Ireland
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: muppet on April 11, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
Sonny

Hang Sangwiches from the boot of the car

White handkerchiefs with knots in the corners

Corporal punishment
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: seafoid on April 11, 2013, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 11, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
Sonny

Hang Sangwiches from the boot of the car

White handkerchiefs with knots in the corners

Corporal punishment
GalteeMountainBoy
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: southdown on April 11, 2013, 02:30:15 PM
The old style GAA championship. If you're beat, you're out.

Donegal v Tyrone would have double the interest this year if it was played under the old format, IMHO.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: ardal on April 11, 2013, 03:52:52 PM
Christ I have to agree with TF

Corporal punishment in schools; and perhaps sometimes capital punishment.

Mini skirts

Chairmen, Police women, air hostesses

85p pints
5p crisps
milk in the bottle delivered to the door

Dodo birds

Morals
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: seafoid on April 11, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
less than 150 parts per million CO2 in the atmosphere
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Sean3 on April 11, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
Summer
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Syferus on April 11, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 10, 2013, 10:43:45 PM
Ballaghaderreen
Inishbofin
Inishshark
1925 All-Ireland Title.
1989 All-Ireland Title.
1996 All-Ireland Title.
1997 All-Ireland Title.
2004 All-Ireland Title.
2006 All-Ireland Title.
2012 All-Ireland Title.

You're planning on signing over the deeds to Ballina to Sligo then, I assume?
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: snoopdog on April 11, 2013, 05:29:52 PM
Nurses back in Skirts

Mark 2 Ford Escort
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Maguire01 on April 11, 2013, 06:25:00 PM
Standards of punctuation and grammar.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 11, 2013, 11:03:09 PM
the punt. things went to hell when the stupid euro started. but then sinn fein did say that would happen
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: rosnarun on April 11, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
i just had a Dracula ice cream
the revolution starts here
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 11, 2013, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 11, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 10, 2013, 10:43:45 PM
Ballaghaderreen
Inishbofin
Inishshark
1925 All-Ireland Title.
1989 All-Ireland Title.
1996 All-Ireland Title.
1997 All-Ireland Title.
2004 All-Ireland Title.
2006 All-Ireland Title.
2012 All-Ireland Title.

You're planning on signing over the deeds to Ballina to Sligo then, I assume?

Why quote something I didn't say. 1925 was an All-Ireland title taken from us and more or less handed to Galway, the others we never held.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: lawnseed on April 26, 2013, 08:38:46 PM
planning permission has been given to restore part of the ulster canal. :D its just a matter of raising the money now. great news boats will soon be passing through monaghan. all i need is a cravat and a wee waistcoat and a captains hat. maybe smoke a pipe
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 26, 2013, 11:16:19 PM
Pint bottles of cider at a £1, the good ole days
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: TransitVanMan on April 26, 2013, 11:26:19 PM
3rds teams in the Derry Junior Championship
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: laoislad on April 26, 2013, 11:27:27 PM
Macgyver.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: ziggy90 on April 26, 2013, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 26, 2013, 11:16:19 PM
Pint bottles of cider at a £1, the good ole days

No bother getting them over here at that price :), and it would be 'proper' gear too.
Title: Re: things you'd like to see restored again
Post by: laoislad on April 26, 2013, 11:55:45 PM
Doogie Howser M.D