http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807
wonder what game it was?
the chelsea v barcelona game at stamford bridge in 2009 was a dodgy one.
was also gonna say everton & villareal but that was in 2005.
QuoteAt a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed:
The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in the "last three or four years";
The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings";
Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues";
In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on rigged matches and made £6.9m in profits
In total 380 suspicious matches were in Europe and a further 300 in Africa, Asia and south and central America.
Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg".
That is serious stuff. If we are all up in arms over Lance Armstrong's cheating then we should be the same for this. Although we have very little info to go on yet.
*orders popcorn*
Quote from: muppet on February 04, 2013, 01:14:05 PM
QuoteAt a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed:
The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in the "last three or four years";
The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings";
Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues";
In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on rigged matches and made £6.9m in profits
In total 380 suspicious matches were in Europe and a further 300 in Africa, Asia and south and central America.
Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg".
That is serious stuff. If we are all up in arms over Lance Armstrong's cheating then we should be the same for this. Although we have very little info to go on yet.
*orders popcorn*
Whew!! That's liverpool in the clear.
Quote£6.9m in profits
If I fixed 360 games, I'd be hoping for a bit more than that. Something doesn't add up here.
Quote from: muppet on February 04, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
Quote£6.9m in profits
If I fixed 360 games, I'd be hoping for a bit more than that. Something doesn't add up here.
Presume they were trying to be smart about it and put enough on each game to make a nice profit but not enough to alert the bookmakers e.g Stephen Lee in the snooker ::)
I can think of one Liverpool CL game played just over five years ago that was well dodge.
Quote from: muppet on February 04, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
Quote£6.9m in profits
If I fixed 360 games, I'd be hoping for a bit more than that. Something doesn't add up here.
These profits were only in 'Germany-based' games, the 380 games were Europe-wide. Also, I'd imagine these take into account the bribes paid etc etc.
Is anybody surprised at this?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
Is anybody surprised at this?
I'd be very surprised if an English champions league team was involved in match fixing. But I presume that's not what this is about and that it would be individual players trying to influence first throw-in, yellow card, etc.
Quote from: Hound on February 04, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
Is anybody surprised at this?
I'd be very surprised if an English champions league team was involved in match fixing. But I presume that's not what this is about and that it would be individual players trying to influence first throw-in, yellow card, etc.
Probably something like that alright, but TBH I think some bookies deserve all they get by taking such stupid bets on in the first place.
Quote from: Franko on February 04, 2013, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 04, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
Quote£6.9m in profits
If I fixed 360 games, I'd be hoping for a bit more than that. Something doesn't add up here.
These profits were only in 'Germany-based' games, the 380 games were Europe-wide. Also, I'd imagine these take into account the bribes paid etc etc.
Just noticed that, although only 1 game was in England. It would be interesting to see a breakdown.
Any chance that national league games could be open to the influence of betting syndicates?
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Any chance that national league games could be open to the influence of betting syndicates?
Would have thought this would be quite easily done, especially with the spread betting.
Quote from: NAG1 on February 04, 2013, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Any chance that national league games could be open to the influence of betting syndicates?
Would have thought this would be quite easily done, especially with the spread betting.
All right who bet on Kerry not to score in the 2nd half yesterday?
Surely the 2005 Milan v Liverpool final was a fix. Has to be.
A mate of mine plays for a well known Irish league side and has hinted that this goes on, especially for the last league games of the season.
It's widespread in the Irish League. Some local bookies will not give prices on Irish League games after a certain point in the season.
Quote from: southdown on February 04, 2013, 04:33:50 PM
A mate of mine plays for a well known Irish league side and has hinted that this goes on, especially for the last league games of the season.
The 'Christmas money' Irish league game is a staple of the local economy.
Quote from: ballinaman on February 04, 2013, 04:32:08 PM
Surely the 2005 Milan v Liverpool final was a fix. Has to be.
I thought of that game right away too but no way these clubs would be involved, plus the players make gobs of money anyway.
A former Liverpool player has prior form at this craic allegedly, Bruce Grobeullar, their former keeper was said to have taken the odd punt to take a (pardon the pun) dive, that said it was no reflection on the club, just the player.
Bruce Grobeullar ;D Who the fcuk is that.
Quote from: ballinaman on February 04, 2013, 04:32:08 PM
Surely the 2005 Milan v Liverpool final was a fix. Has to be.
No,that was just Rafa Magic :)
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2013, 08:05:01 PM
Bruce Grobeullar ;D Who the fcuk is that.
Hey, I didn't know how to spell his name, you know who I meant and I couldn't be arsed apologizing for the butchering of his name!
Anyhow, he was a Liverpool who took money to alter the course of games (allegedly)
Quote from: supersarsfields on February 04, 2013, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 04, 2013, 01:14:05 PM
QuoteAt a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed:
The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in the "last three or four years";
The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings";
Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues";
In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on rigged matches and made £6.9m in profits
In total 380 suspicious matches were in Europe and a further 300 in Africa, Asia and south and central America.
Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg".
That is serious stuff. If we are all up in arms over Lance Armstrong's cheating then we should be the same for this. Although we have very little info to go on yet.
*orders popcorn*
Whew!! That's liverpool in the clear.
Maybe Not!
Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet have come out with a stunning claim this evening, just hours after Europol said over 680 games have been fixed worldwide.
Much of the press speculation in the UK revolved around the fact a Champions League game based in England, over the last 3 to 4 years, was one of the fixed matches and Ekstra Bladet seem certain that it was Liverpool's 1-0 win over Debrecen in 2009.
They suggest that Debrecen goalkeeper Vukasin Poleksic was bribed to ensure that there were over 2.5 goals in the match.
However, Liverpool had a poor night in front of goal and Poleksic only conceded one, where he punched out a shot from Fernando Torres into the path of Dirk Kuyt to claim the winner.
In text messages recovered by police – the people behind the match fixing bemoaned the fact Steven Gerrard missed some presentable chances against Debrecen.
Later on in the Champions League group stage of 2009, Poleksic was once again allegedly bribed for the match against Fiorentina which the Italians won 4-3.
Poleksic has since subsequently been banned from all football activities for failing to report match fixing activities.
Ekstra Bladet add in their report this evening just how difficult it is to prove match fixing – after all in the case of Liverpool's win over Debrecen can we really be sure the keeper was trying to let in three or more goals?
They also say that whilst big clubs such as Liverpool and Fiorentina stick out like sore thumbs in this report, there is no evidence to link them with any match fixing whatsoever.
Jaysis even with a Goalie on the take we could still only manage 1 goal ! ;D :-[
Armaghs win in kerry last year????????? Thats kerry being mentioned twice here;hmmmmmmm...........
Bookies in north dont take single match betting in irish league.
Anybody ask Oisin yet?
Quote from: EC Unique on February 04, 2013, 09:32:49 PM
Anybody ask Oisin yet?
Too far ec unique. Not nice there at all. Please remove that.
It didn't take long for the dodgy game to be outed.
Quote from: hardstation on February 04, 2013, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 04, 2013, 09:32:49 PM
Anybody ask Oisin yet?
Says a man who was on his high horse a couple of weeks back. Nice.
Was thinking the same. It's alright to be saintly if you do it on a part time basis.
Im lost anseo
Liverpool v Debrecen apparently. The Debrecen keeper was allegedly part of a 'more than 2.5 goals' scam. Unfortunately for him Liverpool only managed one shot on target and the game ended 1-0. lol, you couldn't make it up!!
Was Rafa in charge for that game?
I'm not surprised Liverpool are linked to match fixing, some of the games they've managed to draw and lose are questionable to say the least.
I'd be looking into Reina's bank balance after last Sunday for a start.
Lurgan v Larne last night, was off work yesterday and only heard about it today ffs.
Quote from: under the bar on February 05, 2013, 01:25:46 AM
Liverpool v Debrecen apparently. The Debrecen keeper was allegedly part of a 'more than 2.5 goals' scam. Unfortunately for him Liverpool only managed one shot on target and the game ended 1-0. lol, you couldn't make it up!!
I thought the Roma game at Anfield a few years ago was very strange.
The papers talking of the 'shock' that Liverpool's name should be linked to this. Not sure why, as this is the 3rd time that they have been involved in a match fixing scandal in some form or another.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2013, 03:17:05 PM
The papers talking of the 'shock' that Liverpool's name should be linked to this. Not sure why, as this is the 3rd time that they have been involved in a match fixing scandal in some form or another.
I remember the allegations about Grobbelaar in the 3-3 against Utd in '94. What's the other one?
http://www.information-britain.co.uk/famdates.php?id=1346 (http://www.information-britain.co.uk/famdates.php?id=1346)
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2013, 03:39:41 PM
http://www.information-britain.co.uk/famdates.php?id=1346 (http://www.information-britain.co.uk/famdates.php?id=1346)
United missing penalties again!
The one that immediately sprung to my mind was the Lyon - Zagreb game last season. Lyon needed to win by at least 6 goals or something to beat Ajax to second spot in the group. They won 7-1, one of their players was caught winking to a Lyon player after one of the goals and in the other game, Ajax had 3 goals called offside which were apparantly legit
Chelsea - Napoli is another one where Chelsea won 3-1 to go through
Chelsea beat Napoli 4-1. Why so that game??