Poll
Question:
Are they real?
Option 1: yes
votes: 32
Option 2: no
votes: 43
How many posters believe in ghosts and have ever had an encounter with something that could be described as paranormal?
Steven hawkings reckon that we will die and rot away, no afterlife.
FFS. This is 2011. The Enlightement has been underway for three centuries.
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Do tell Ziggy
Quote from: haveaharp on May 26, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Do tell Ziggy
Its just your reflection lad, dont be afraid
Quote from: HiMucker on May 26, 2011, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: haveaharp on May 26, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Do tell Ziggy
Its just your reflection lad, dont be afraid
No reflection on you of course.
Quote from: Orior on May 26, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on May 26, 2011, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: haveaharp on May 26, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Do tell Ziggy
Its just your reflection lad, dont be afraid
No reflection on you of course.
My view would mirror Orior's statement
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Was it that film the other night with Kiefer Sutherland?
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 26, 2011, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Was it that film the other night with Kiefer Sutherland?
I avoided the film, specifically because it was a horror about mirrors.
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 11:46:52 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 26, 2011, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Was it that film the other night with Kiefer Sutherland?
I avoided the film, specifically because it was a horror about mirrors.
You were probably right. There were bad people in those mirrors
I have an interest in the Paranormal. I did the ghost tour in Q Station in Manly in Australia which was good. I'm a huge horror film fan, (not so much the slasher type films though) but its hard to find any good ones now.
Quote from: Nally Stand on May 26, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Quote from: Orior on May 26, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on May 26, 2011, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: haveaharp on May 26, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
I've had experiences of the paranormal type. As a result of one, I've a terrible fear of mirrors.
Do tell Ziggy
Its just your reflection lad, dont be afraid
No reflection on you of course.
My view would mirror Orior's statement
You boys should be put in prism for them puns :-X :-\
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on May 26, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
I have an interest in the Paranormal. I did the ghost tour in Q Station in Manly in Australia which was good. I'm a huge horror film fan, (not so much the slasher type films though) but its hard to find any good ones now.
I thought "The Last Exorcism" wasn't too bad
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 26, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on May 26, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
I have an interest in the Paranormal. I did the ghost tour in Q Station in Manly in Australia which was good. I'm a huge horror film fan, (not so much the slasher type films though) but its hard to find any good ones now.
I thought "The Last Exorcism" wasn't too bad
I wasn't too gone on it.. I did enjoy The Exercism of Emily Rose and Paranormal Activity was OK. But nothing really stands out over the last few years. There probably is one or two very good ones I can't think of off the top of my head though.
So Ziggy, Snow White is another film you avoid? Mirror mirror on the wall.......
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
So Ziggy, Snow White is another film you avoid? Mirror mirror on the wall.......
Snow White gives me hope. Maybe someday I'll find a woman like that in my house.
Quote from: ziggysego on May 26, 2011, 06:44:42 PM
Snow White gives me hope. Maybe someday I'll find a woman like that in my house.
Tidying up?
I've heard talk of Holy Ghosts around Ardboe.
Quote from: Forever Green on May 26, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
How many posters believe in ghosts and have ever had an encounter with something that could be described as paranormal?
If someone believes in ghosts does that mean one has religious beliefs?
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on May 26, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
How many posters believe in ghosts and have ever had an encounter with something that could be described as paranormal?
If someone believes in ghosts does that mean one has religious beliefs?
Not atall. Some people believe in some form of non-physical presence left over after a death for a short period of time. I'm veering towards reincarnation at the minute.
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on May 26, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
How many posters believe in ghosts and have ever had an encounter with something that could be described as paranormal?
If someone believes in ghosts does that mean one has religious beliefs?
Not atall. Some people believe in some form of non-physical presence left over after a death for a short period of time. I'm veering towards reincarnation at the minute.
432 to go.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 26, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on May 26, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
How many posters believe in ghosts and have ever had an encounter with something that could be described as paranormal?
If someone believes in ghosts does that mean one has religious beliefs?
Not atall. Some people believe in some form of non-physical presence left over after a death for a short period of time. I'm veering towards reincarnation at the minute.
432 to go.
You're right. Board banned til June20. Sorta.
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2011, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 26, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 26, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on May 26, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
How many posters believe in ghosts and have ever had an encounter with something that could be described as paranormal?
If someone believes in ghosts does that mean one has religious beliefs?
Not atall. Some people believe in some form of non-physical presence left over after a death for a short period of time. I'm veering towards reincarnation at the minute.
432 to go.
You're right. Board banned til June20. Sorta.
All work and no play. That's a serious amount.
Greed.
Indeed.
Back to ghosts. It's always a friend of a friend. I've never met anyone who can say they are 95% sure they saw/met a ghost.
The sister-in-law and mother-in-law both maintain they saw the ghost of a small child in the wife's homestead on separate occasions. Neither would be the type to make this up.
Some advice:
The following article has been copied (with the owners permission) from Donald Tyson's Supernatural World Website. I found it a very interesting read, which I though our members would enjoy. The original source can be found at Donald Tyson's Website along with many other facinating subjects.
Do ghosts exist? Of course they do. Why else would tens of thousands of people from all nations around the world and all periods in human history report seeing them under more or less similar circumstances? The question you should be asking yourself is, granted that ghosts exist -- what are they?
The most important thing to know about ghosts is that they are not the souls of dead people returned to communicate with the living. Dead is dead. Unless you believe in the reincarnation of the lower soul with the memories of its past lives intact, there is no coming back (I do not believe in the reincarnation of the personality and memory).
Neither are ghosts physically present when you see them. They are present in the astral world which always overlaps the physical world. You see a ghost when, for various reasons, the separation between the two levels of reality becomes very thin.
From historical accounts, it appears that the perception of ghosts occurs most often at night, in relative or complete darkness, or at least in some shadowed place, usually when the air is still. Certain localities are favorable for the appearance of ghosts -- why is difficult to determine. One theory has it that a ghost is a kind of psychic recording of an event in the past that took place at that locality, and that the locality acts as some sort of recording medium, and periodically replays the event under the right conditions.
Ghosts are often described as shadowy or translucent. Only portions of their body may appear -- a relative of mine once saw a ghostly hand project itself upward through the surface of a school desk that was stored in a dark school basement. Sometimes ghosts walk out of or into walls, or through furniture. They can do this because, to them, our physical reality is no more than a projected three-dimensional image.
There are many exceptions to this general description, of course. Some ghosts appear as real and as solid as a person of flesh and blood. Some appear in full daylight, and are seen by numerous persons at the same time, or on numerous occasions. More rarely they interact with others, talking and even laughing with them, or touching them. However, as a broad rule of thumb, ghosts appear in haunted places, at night when the light is poor, when the air is quiet, to individuals who are frequently (but not always by any means) going to bed or waking from sleep. Usually they do not speak, or take the least notice of their observer. They perform the same set of actions on successive occasions, as though performing a play, or in a trance state, or as though they were themselves projections of a cinema image.
You may ask how a projected astral image can touch you? The answer is a bit difficult to grasp at first consideration, because it challenges your normal concept of reality. You need to realize that what you see in the world around you is being created by your brain from raw sensory data. Your world exists inside your head, even though it appears to exist outside your body. Because your world is really a mental construction, it is possible for an astral being to appear completely solid and real to your perceptions. When this happens, you may find yourself unable to differentiate between a physical object and an astral object, or a physical person and a ghost.
Usually there is a difference between our perception of a physical object and an astral object, which is why ghosts appear incomplete, dim, shadowy, pale, translucent, and so on. My point is, at times there is no difference in perception between the physical and astral realities. This rarely occurs for the average person, but it does occur. Under this circumstance, any entity or thing in the astral realm can interact with you with all the solidity and reality of a physical entity or thing.
If ghosts are merely astral recordings of past events, how do they interact and communicate with human beings? Usually, they don't. When they do take notice of a human observer, it indicates that they are not a pure ghost, but an astral entity that has assumed the physical appearance of a dead person. On rare occasions, it is indeed possible to talk with ghosts, or communicate with them through gestures, but when this happens, the ghost is really a spirit of the astral world in disguise.
Astral spirits can assume different shapes and features more or less at will. They enjoy the company of and interaction with living human beings. When the emotions of a human being are very strong -- for example, just after the death of a loved one -- an astral spirit may put on the body of the departed and appear to his or her lover or family. If you have ever had anyone close to you die, you will probably have experienced extremely vivid dreams in which you are talking with that person. The being in these dreams is not your departed friend or relative, but an astral spirit. Such spirits can appear both in dreams and in our waking reality when the proper conditions exist.
Are ghosts dangerous? Usually not. In their most common manifestation they are merely shadows or images without physical substance. On the other hand, if an astral spirit decides to haunt an individual person rather than a particular place, they can become very distracting. This is especially true if the pseudo-ghost takes on physical substance and is able to touch the person being haunted.
The touch of a ghost is chilly. It draws heat from the surface of the body, and if it persists, this cold gradually penetrates into the muscle and fat. I have had the experience of being embraced for prolonged periods of time by ghostly spirits. It takes a little getting used to. I enjoy it most on hot summer nights. In the wintertime, it makes me shiver and put another blanket on the bed. These astral ghosts are lonely beings, and they like to sleep in the beds of those who do not reject them, in the same way stray dogs or cats like to rub up against friendly persons.
I should mention here that animals sometimes appear as ghosts. One night while lying in bed I had a litter of drowned kittens snuggle up under my armpit for warmth and go to sleep. I didn't mind, although their attempts to suckle on my armpit tickled like crazy! The poor things still had their eyes closed, they were so young. Their fur was wet, which is how I knew they had been drowned.
From personal experience, many times repeated, I can state categorically that the touch of such a spirit may feel complete physical. At these times there is no way to differentiate the hand of a ghost laid on your shoulder from the hand of a person, except that the ghost's hand will (usually) be somewhat cool.
I have had so many interactions with spirits over the years, they do not trouble me in the least, but I can understand how being touched by a ghost in the darkness, alone in bed, might startle, or even frighten, some individuals. If this happens to you, relax. You are very unlikely to be harmed, since most spirits mean no harm. If you are really troubled, turn on a light or get up from your bed or chair and walk into another room. This should dispel the astral presence.
The most important thing I can say about ghosts is, never mistake a ghost for the human being it resembles. Not even if the ghost talks to you, and declares itself to be the departed human being. Astral spirits who imitate dead people are seeking attention and love. If you wish to give them this love (as I often do), fine; but if you do not wish to be deceived and bothered by them, turn your mind away from them and focus it firmly on some other task, such as reading a book or washing your hair. They may persist for a time, but eventually they will give up in disappointment and go away.
Think yer man has been smoking something stronger than Marlboro Lites!! ;) :P
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2011, 11:05:55 PM
Their fur was wet, which is how I knew they had been drowned.
In reality this guy had probably just pissed the bed.
I dont know about the above article, but myself and a friend heard the banshee one day while we were playing in a fairy fort that was also a children's grave yard (before they were allowed to be burried in consecrated ground).
Scarred the sh!t out of me...
No you didn't hear "the banshee". You see, there is no banshee.
Quote from: Hardy on May 27, 2011, 12:06:34 PM
No you didn't hear "the banshee". You see, there is no banshee.
A fox crying maybe.
That's probably the most common explanation.
So foxes can talk now, and change the weather instantly?
She screamed "Dont come back!!! " twice.
Impressive if it was a fox
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 27, 2011, 01:01:18 PM
So foxes can talk now, and change the weather instantly?
She screamed "Dont come back!!! " twice.
Impressive if it was a fox
Assuming it was the west of Ireland, weather changing instantly is hardly that uncommon.
There was a fox down our way that could speak French and German, but only saw it in the summers. She showed me her tits one night down at the Ice house
I reckon ghosts are real, I have never seen one but so many people have or at least claim to have, they cant all be lying!
Quote from: davegaasportsdesk on May 27, 2011, 01:51:25 PM
I reckon ghosts are real, I have never seen one but so many people have or at least claim to have, they cant all be lying!
Why didn't you tell us this before? Now I have to change my mind after all these years of relying on Newton, Galileo, Einstein, Darwin and all those other frauds, who must all have been lying about how the world works. And all I had to do was ask someone like yourself (who has never seen one) about what so many people have said they saw.
Will I ever learn?
they cant all be lying? Maybe but they could be fooling themselves
I don't believe in ghoulies and ghosities and long-legged beasties and trhat sort of stuff.
However, I think that there are phenomena that can't be explained due to our present state of understanding.
That's logical enough, I suppose; things that were considered as 'magic' in times gone by are commonplace now. Sooner or later, much of what we consider inexplicable today will be understood.
That outa the way, I once heard of an incident for qwhich there is no logical explanation.
The revd. rector of the secondary school I went to was not a man given to wind ups or exaggerations of any sort.
One day in class, the talk switched to belief in the afterlife and that sort of stuff. I forget what we were supposed to be studying but everyone present was more than willing to get him of the subject in question.
Anyway, he told us about an incident for which he had no explanation;
Back in Black & Tan times, a doctor in the Sligo town area was an IRA sympathiser and he got shot by the Tans when he was called out to tend the injuries of an IRA man. This man had been injured in a gunfight with the same buckos.
The doctor had a daughter who was a boarder at Kiltimagh convent and a neighbour who had a car went to take her home. She was told nothing about her father's death; just that he was unwell and her mother wanted her to come home.
Things were going grand until the car came to a narrow railway bridge outside Collooney, which was the spot where her father had been shot. As thery crosssed the bridge, the girl got hysterical and cried out that her father was dead and he had died at this very spot. She was inconsolabel and the driver had a hard job to get her home where the wake was in progress.
Years later, I did a bit of research and found that a doctor had indeed been shot by the Tans at that bridge.
My informant told me that he had heard of the incident concerniong the daughter'e experience at the bridge but he couldn't vouch for its truthfulness as he hadn't been present at the wke.
However, the Revd. Sean O'Neill was from the area and was about the same age as the girl in question.
The same gentleman was as humourless as can be imagined. I don't know if the girl's premonition was fact or fiction but I know Jack O'Neill believed it did.
Quote from: stephenite on May 27, 2011, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 27, 2011, 01:01:18 PM
So foxes can talk now, and change the weather instantly?
She screamed "Dont come back!!! " twice.
Impressive if it was a fox
Assuming it was the west of Ireland, weather changing instantly is hardly that uncommon.
There was a fox down our way that could speak French and German, but only saw it in the summers. She showed me her tits one night down at the Ice house
:D :D :D
Ill post my full banshee story and another ouija board story on Tuesday... will freeze ye in your seat. :o ;)
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 27, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
Quote from: stephenite on May 27, 2011, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 27, 2011, 01:01:18 PM
So foxes can talk now, and change the weather instantly?
She screamed "Dont come back!!! " twice.
Impressive if it was a fox
Assuming it was the west of Ireland, weather changing instantly is hardly that uncommon.
There was a fox down our way that could speak French and German, but only saw it in the summers. She showed me her tits one night down at the Ice house
:D :D :D
See that post made me laugh and cry at the same time. Laugh cos it was very funny, but cry at the fact we didnt have those type of foxes round our way back in the day!
This is some weird shit right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1BUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1BUo)
Quote from: nifan on May 27, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
they cant all be lying? Maybe but they could be fooling themselves
I wouldn't say I was a firm believer, I suppose I'm open to the possibility but how do you explain two, three or larger groups of people seeing/hearing the same things? They can't all be fooling themselves in the very same way.
Quote from: Forever Green on May 27, 2011, 10:22:13 PM
This is some weird shit right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1BUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1BUo)
I learnt my lesson years ago. When I watch these videos I sit well back from the screen and expect something like that to happen. Good try though. ;D
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2011, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: nifan on May 27, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
they cant all be lying? Maybe but they could be fooling themselves
I wouldn't say I was a firm believer, I suppose I'm open to the possibility but how do you explain two, three or larger groups of people seeing/hearing the same things? They can't all be fooling themselves in the very same way.
I'm not a total sceptic but I'd treat a lot of those claims with a bit of caution.
Remember the moving statues episode in the 1980?
Tens of thousands of otherwise sane, logical individuals swore they could see statues of the BV moving about the country. Busloads would descend on some location or other because they heard a 'miracle' had happened there and sure enough, the statue would oblige.
The craic was mighty for about a year or so until things returned to normal.
The conditions where there to spook some into believing that miracles were taking place and it was a case of Chinese whispering after that—somebody swore he/she saw something and told others who believed because they wanted to believe and you soon had a snowballing effect.
I don't think there ever was an apparition at Knock or anywhere else for that matter.
But ESP is another matter.
I think human science and logic still hasn't reached the point where the full potential of the mind will have been discovered. I don't think progress will ever stop at a certain point where one can be confident that science can go no further.
I'm not religious but I do believe there is something in the idea of ghosts. Don't know what they are or why they are here but there is something in it. I have a good friend whose house was haunted. Transparent figures standing in rooms, child running around corridors etc. Mad stuff. I know some will scoff but I am certain this friend would not make it up - in fact it is hard to get him to even talk about it (any story of ghosts comes up here would leave the room). An exorcism or some sort of religious prayer was carried out on the house and it all stopped which is something I don't understand either. Maybe its a trick of the mind but it seems strange that everyone in that house had a paranormal experience while in it.
Quote from: Hardy on May 27, 2011, 12:06:34 PM
No you didn't hear "the banshee". You see, there is no banshee.
Banshee is real. One of my experiences.
Fcuk sake Ziggy. It was a cat in heat.
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on May 28, 2011, 08:53:57 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on May 27, 2011, 10:22:13 PM
This is some weird shit right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1BUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1BUo)
I learnt my lesson years ago. When I watch these videos I sit well back from the screen and expect something like that to happen. Good try though. ;D
Good man for ruining it.
Quote from: ONeill on May 28, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
Fcuk sake Ziggy. It was a cat in heat.
She shoved me in the back and I fell over. (This was back in the time I could walk)
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 28, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2011, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: nifan on May 27, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
they cant all be lying? Maybe but they could be fooling themselves
I wouldn't say I was a firm believer, I suppose I'm open to the possibility but how do you explain two, three or larger groups of people seeing/hearing the same things? They can't all be fooling themselves in the very same way.
I'm not a total sceptic but I'd treat a lot of those claims with a bit of caution.
Remember the moving statues episode in the 1980?
Tens of thousands of otherwise sane, logical individuals swore they could see statues of the BV moving about the country. Busloads would descend on some location or other because they heard a 'miracle' had happened there and sure enough, the statue would oblige.
The craic was mighty for about a year or so until things returned to normal.
The conditions where there to spook some into believing that miracles were taking place and it was a case of Chinese whispering after that—somebody swore he/she saw something and told others who believed because they wanted to believe and you soon had a snowballing effect.
I don't think there ever was an apparition at Knock or anywhere else for that matter.
But ESP is another matter.
I think human science and logic still hasn't reached the point where the full potential of the mind will have been discovered. I don't think progress will ever stop at a certain point where one can be confident that science can go no further.
yeah, I'd be sceptical of that type of thing, I think it'd be a mixture of people wanting to see something/wanting to part of the group/just mad in the head.
Like Myles though I know someone and their house was haunted and they'd also see and hear the same things, evening sitting together in the room they'd see/hear things going on that couldn't be explained and I'd have no reason to doubt them.
Again, I know a friend....
Can some hoor come on here and convince me they saw something they reckon had ghostly attributes?
Quote from: ONeill on May 29, 2011, 11:14:28 AM
Again, I know a friend....
Can some hoor come on here and convince me they saw something they reckon had ghostly attributes?
How could they convince you? What evidence from them would you require?
"They reckon" - rather easy - just tell the tale.
Quote from: ONeill on May 29, 2011, 11:20:00 AM
"They reckon" - rather easy - just tell the tale.
Ziggy has and you've ignored him.
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 27, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
I dont know about the above article, but myself and a friend heard the banshee one day while we were playing in a fairy fort that was also a children's grave yard (before they were allowed to be burried in consecrated ground).
Scarred the sh!t out of me...
I heard 'something' that scared the life out of me.
Our house is pretty isolated, lot of large trees and a river beside it.
One night (I was still in school at the time), I was out the back having a sneaky smoke, and then there was this spine-chilling scream/roar from over the wall - back towards the woods/river.
I have no idea what it was - the only thing I could think it mightbe would be an animal being killed. That or a banshee ;)
Whatever it was, I dropped the fag and sprinted into the house as fast as I could.
Another night, I was walking home from a local pub with a gang of lads. We had been telling ghost stories all along the walk (about half a mile), and then I had to turn off at the crossroads and walk the rest of the way on my own (bout 1/4 mile).
The road I was walking along had no street lights and there was no traffic so it was pitch black apart from a small bit of light when the moon came out from behind the clouds.
As I was walking I could hear something walking beside me but I couldn't see anything. When I stopped, it stopped. Then I could hear this heavy breathing :'( After the ghost stories I heard only a few mins earlier, this had me completely freaked out.
Then the moon came out, and I saw it was a friendly cow in the field that was just over the wall and walking alongside me. Never so glad to see a cow :D
And our house at home is meant to be haunted - the old people used to say it was, before our family bought it.
By a headless horseman apparently - not very original really!
Quote from: Tubberman on May 29, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 27, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
I dont know about the above article, but myself and a friend heard the banshee one day while we were playing in a fairy fort that was also a children's grave yard (before they were allowed to be burried in consecrated ground).
Scarred the sh!t out of me...
I heard 'something' that scared the life out of me.
Our house is pretty isolated, lot of large trees and a river beside it.
One night (I was still in school at the time), I was out the back having a sneaky smoke, and then there was this spine-chilling scream/roar from over the wall - back towards the woods/river.
I have no idea what it was - the only thing I could think it mightbe would be an animal being killed. That or a banshee ;)
Whatever it was, I dropped the fag and sprinted into the house as fast as I could.
Another night, I was walking home from a local pub with a gang of lads. We had been telling ghost stories all along the walk (about half a mile), and then I had to turn off at the crossroads and walk the rest of the way on my own (bout 1/4 mile).
The road I was walking along had no street lights and there was no traffic so it was pitch black apart from a small bit of light when the moon came out from behind the clouds.
As I was walking I could hear something walking beside me but I couldn't see anything. When I stopped, it stopped. Then I could hear this heavy breathing :'( After the ghost stories I heard only a few mins earlier, this had me completely freaked out.
Then the moon came out, and I saw it was a friendly cow in the field that was just over the wall and walking alongside me. Never so glad to see a cow :D
And our house at home is meant to be haunted - the old people used to say it was, before our family bought it.
By a headless horseman apparently - not very original really!
And if the moon hadn't come out you'd be telling us another story to go with the rest of the ones on this thread that "can't/couldn't be explained"!!
Quote from: ziggysego on May 29, 2011, 12:39:57 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 28, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
Fcuk sake Ziggy. It was a cat in heat.
She shoved me in the back and I fell over. (This was back in the time I could walk)
Can you elaborate a wee bit Ziggy if you don't mind?
I find all this stuff fascinating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02-BXlepE38
I had a chat with a few individuals recently who have a deep interest in all matters paranormal and the subject of ghosts came up.
We chatted about a number of well-know sites around the country where there is much controversy over eyewitness accounts of what may or may not have happened there. Unlike my companions, I have no set views one way or the other where any of them is concerned.
But there is one place in particular that intrigues me and I was reminded of a visit I paid there over twenty years ago.
I am talking about the Rhetoric House in Maynooth College. I saw or heard nothing while there to convinve me that there was a paranormal presence in the area but many otherwise sane people are convinced otherwise.
Mind you, the clerical authorities there try to play it down and don't encourage outside interest in the supposed extraordinary happenings there. I got in because I was accompanied by a priest who is recogniised by the Church as an excorcist.
He's supposed to be fairly good at the job and has told me of many times when he has in conflict with malign, preternatural entities. As for me; I accept that he believes he has been and I leave it at that.
Anyway, he brought me along to a corridor in the Rhetoric House that oce was a dormitory for junior students.
There's a number of small identical bedrooms on either side of this corridor.
However, there an alcove where the front wall and door of a room have been removed and the window has been bricked up. There was (and probably still is) a statue of St Joseph there.
The story goes that back in the 1840s a student appeared to have committed suicide in this room after a number of others claimed they heard an almighty commotion going on there. Some other student was given this room and he too appeared to have died in the same manner and there was evidence of him meeting a violent end. Eventually a priedt tried his luck there and he wound uo a 'jibbering wreck' the following morning.
The authorities decided that enough was enough and turned the room into an orotary for the said St Joseph.
My companion told me that a renowned physiic examined the room and reported that he found a very powerful malign energy there.
I just don'r know. I experienced nothing out of the ordinary while in this oratory but those at the very centre of Catholic power and influence in the country appear to think otherwise
I have heard that same story about Maynooth Lar. There is also a house near me back home in Laois where the owners also had to block up the windows and doors of one room because of similar reasons to Maynooth.
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/have-you-caught-the-ghost-train-at-connolly-station-2664015.html
Saw a show one time about paranormal stuff. They investigated the catacombs under Edinburgh and did controlled experiments to see which rooms people found most unsettling. The most unsettling rooms (the ones which were allegedly "haunted") all had certain features in common in terms of lighting, temperature, size, height of the ceiling etc.
Bottom line: It's all in yer heads!
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Anyone who believes in ghosts is a complete idiot.
Spooky in Coalisland.
Watch from 40 mins on, especially around 56 mins on.
Nutters or go-betweens?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtoz5Ve1EyA&feature=youtu.be#t=25m18s
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2011, 09:11:55 AM
Spooky in Coalisland.
Watch from 40 mins on, especially around 56 mins on.
Nutters or go-betweens?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtoz5Ve1EyA&feature=youtu.be#t=25m18s
Around the island id say Derek Acora has nothing to fear.
There's perfectly logical explanation for all of these things. I can't believe educated people are still believing this superstitious nonsense in this day and age. Derren Brown is a great one for debunking this crap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hQvWsIMYs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hQvWsIMYs)
What is it with mirrors that scares the crap out of people?
Quote from: southdown on October 31, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
What is it with mirrors that scares the crap out of people?
I suppose it depends on who is looking into it
For those that are skeptical its fairly simple they have to see it for themselves which is fair enough, others believe without seeing which again is fair enough and then are those who have seen and obviously believe which again is fair enough. There is absolutely no point arguing with skeptics or with seers. Most people are just not capable of seeing or sensing. Opened minded people tend to be the ones that believe without seeing. I dont understand the attachment we all have to our beliefs though, like some people get greatly offended by people believeing in ghosts and those who see get greatly offended by skeptics. I dont see the point as we all different capabilities and life experience and base our beliefs accordingly.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on October 31, 2011, 05:37:16 PM
Opened minded people tend to be the ones that believe without seeing
"Gullible" is the word you're looking for there.
You never told your stories abbeysider...
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 31, 2011, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on October 31, 2011, 05:37:16 PM
Opened minded people tend to be the ones that believe without seeing
"Gullible" is the word you're looking for there.
Don't be so closed minded.
It must be some craic to come back as a ghost and start rattling people's china. I suppose you could raid their liquor cabinet or drive off in their car. But where's the fun in that? To take two cups and start tapping one against the other is great gas altogether.
Quote from: ziggysego on October 31, 2011, 10:43:11 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 31, 2011, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on October 31, 2011, 05:37:16 PM
Opened minded people tend to be the ones that believe without seeing
"Gullible" is the word you're looking for there.
Don't be so closed minded.
Don't be so gullible.
Bumping this thread again after watching a ghostly documentary
Anyone had any experiences with
sightings, unexplained happenings , premonitions etc.. well, since 2011 anyway (the last post here)
I'm not piss taking , I'm genuinely interested.....
I, 100%, don't believe in ghosts but as I've the time today to tell the story below, I will.
Around 12 years ago myself and my lady were staying in a well known Dublin hotel that I only learned after our stay has a history of ghost(s).
I was in bed (likely asleep) when a paralysing fear the like of which I had never experienced before or since came over me. Someone was in the room. Try as I might, my body would not move but seemingly I was at least semi conscious as I could feel my heart absolutely pounding with fear. The paralysis persisted for what seemed like an eternity. On reflection now I think I was probably dreaming or in some state of semi consciousness - but in my mind's eye I could clearly see a hooded / cloaked figure moving in the room - but particularly just inside the door of the room. I don't know whether I went back into a deep sleep at that point but the 'event' definitely ended for me and all was well.
Until the following.
Later that same night the girlfriend, who would sometimes talk in her sleep, woke or at least partially woke me. She was in a full on state of panic (but as I know now also probably asleep) - claiming someone was in our room. This time I was more awake but again teetering on the edge of consciousness. Having had my own experience on the same night, my heart obviously immediately started doing somersaults - but instead of me reacting to her claim I softly scolded her back to sleep by telling her not to be silly. That was totally contrary to what I was feeling and for the second time I was completely paralysed with fear.
The second 'event' passed as well and all was fine.
When we woke the next morning our respective 'dreams' were all we could talk about. It was obvious that no-one had physically been in the room but both of us 'saw' the same cloaked / hooded figure loitering in the room and both visions were in dreams / semi consciousness. I could see now that my mind's eye view of the figure standing in the doorway couldn't have been the case as the door wasn't visible from the bed - but both of us (we don't take drugs, little alcohol) were convinced that someone / something wearing a hooded cloak had been in the room.
The sense of fear that I experienced that night has never left me and I tried to explain it to several people until months later I was recounting the whole incident to an old aunt. Straight away she considered we'd be in the presence of a ghost.
That all said, I don't believe in ghosts - and neither should you. Laugh at me, ridicule me all you like but I wish that none of you experience the level of fear we did that night.
Quote from: Aristo 60 on October 16, 2024, 12:16:59 PMI, 100%, don't believe in ghosts but as I've the time today to tell the story below, I will.
Around 12 years ago myself and my lady were staying in a well known Dublin hotel that I only learned after our stay has a history of ghost(s).
I was in bed (likely asleep) when a paralysing fear the like of which I had never experienced before or since came over me. Someone was in the room. Try as I might, my body would not move but seemingly I was at least semi conscious as I could feel my heart absolutely pounding with fear. The paralysis persisted for what seemed like an eternity. On reflection now I think I was probably dreaming or in some state of semi consciousness - but in my mind's eye I could clearly see a hooded / cloaked figure moving in the room - but particularly just inside the door of the room. I don't know whether I went back into a deep sleep at that point but the 'event' definitely ended for me and all was well.
Until the following.
Later that same night the girlfriend, who would sometimes talk in her sleep, woke or at least partially woke me. She was in a full on state of panic (but as I know now also probably asleep) - claiming someone was in our room. This time I was more awake but again teetering on the edge of consciousness. Having had my own experience on the same night, my heart obviously immediately started doing somersaults - but instead of me reacting to her claim I softly scolded her back to sleep by telling her not to be silly. That was totally contrary to what I was feeling and for the second time I was completely paralysed with fear.
The second 'event' passed as well and all was fine.
When we woke the next morning our respective 'dreams' were all we could talk about. It was obvious that no-one had physically been in the room but both of us 'saw' the same cloaked / hooded figure loitering in the room and both visions were in dreams / semi consciousness. I could see now that my mind's eye view of the figure standing in the doorway couldn't have been the case as the door wasn't visible from the bed - but both of us (we don't take drugs, little alcohol) were convinced that someone / something wearing a hooded cloak had been in the room.
The sense of fear that I experienced that night has never left me and I tried to explain it to several people until months later I was recounting the whole incident to an old aunt. Straight away she considered we'd be in the presence of a ghost.
That all said, I don't believe in ghosts - and neither should you. Laugh at me, ridicule me all you like but I wish that none of you experience the level of fear we did that night.
sounds like sleep paralysis where your mind is half awake but body fully asleep. Ive had it happen a couple of times and its terrifying. It happening to both of you on the same night is odd
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/united-kingdom/50-most-haunted-places-in-uk/#northern-irelandundefined
Newcastle Harbour, County Down
On 13 January 1843, 14 fishing boats were caught by a storm in the waters of the seaside village of Newcastle. Seventy-three men died. Since then, the town has been visited by a Banshee, a wailing Irish portent of death mourns with the victims' families. Another ghost is seen at nearby Bogey Hill, looking out to sea, waiting for a lost love who'll never return.
Quote from: Aristo 60 on October 16, 2024, 12:16:59 PMI, 100%, don't believe in ghosts but as I've the time today to tell the story below, I will.
Around 12 years ago myself and my lady were staying in a well known Dublin hotel that I only learned after our stay has a history of ghost(s).
I was in bed (likely asleep) when a paralysing fear the like of which I had never experienced before or since came over me. Someone was in the room. Try as I might, my body would not move but seemingly I was at least semi conscious as I could feel my heart absolutely pounding with fear. The paralysis persisted for what seemed like an eternity. On reflection now I think I was probably dreaming or in some state of semi consciousness - but in my mind's eye I could clearly see a hooded / cloaked figure moving in the room - but particularly just inside the door of the room. I don't know whether I went back into a deep sleep at that point but the 'event' definitely ended for me and all was well.
Until the following.
Later that same night the girlfriend, who would sometimes talk in her sleep, woke or at least partially woke me. She was in a full on state of panic (but as I know now also probably asleep) - claiming someone was in our room. This time I was more awake but again teetering on the edge of consciousness. Having had my own experience on the same night, my heart obviously immediately started doing somersaults - but instead of me reacting to her claim I softly scolded her back to sleep by telling her not to be silly. That was totally contrary to what I was feeling and for the second time I was completely paralysed with fear.
The second 'event' passed as well and all was fine.
When we woke the next morning our respective 'dreams' were all we could talk about. It was obvious that no-one had physically been in the room but both of us 'saw' the same cloaked / hooded figure loitering in the room and both visions were in dreams / semi consciousness. I could see now that my mind's eye view of the figure standing in the doorway couldn't have been the case as the door wasn't visible from the bed - but both of us (we don't take drugs, little alcohol) were convinced that someone / something wearing a hooded cloak had been in the room.
The sense of fear that I experienced that night has never left me and I tried to explain it to several people until months later I was recounting the whole incident to an old aunt. Straight away she considered we'd be in the presence of a ghost.
That all said, I don't believe in ghosts - and neither should you. Laugh at me, ridicule me all you like but I wish that none of you experience the level of fear we did that night.
Im definitely not laughing at you.
Spooky shit - makes the hairs stand on end.
I honestly have no idea if I believe in them or not
Relatives of mine used to live in a house where they would regularly hear footsteps coming up the stairs. The wife told the husband about it , but he brushed it off. Then one morning , they both heard it as clear as day while in bed. He sat up, thinking who's this coming? There's only us in the house. Doors would regularly open and close, sometimes slamming hard. Some relatives of theirs wouldn't set foot in the house .
Another family then moved in, stayed a few years. The second family then bought a new house. Both men bumped into each other, first man asks second about them moving. Are you definitely moving? Yes, we are. Ok, because I want to ask you something. You're going to ask about the noises , aren't you?
Can't say I've had any experiences other than the odd picture falling off the wall at strange times, or very coincidental meetings or things said , t hat are probably me looking for signs/connections that aren't really there.
I am open minded about things like this but I think a lot of stories can be down to hallucinations or mental illness.
I don't believe the stories about near death experiences, they can be explained by the chemicals being released in your brain when you are dying.
I certainly wouldn't believe any stories on Reddit threads, the demographic who use Reddit tend to be cannabis smokers.
Relative of mine worked in a hospital for years and you would not believe the stories.
A friend of mine was coming home from lifting his wife at work one evening when he stood on the breaks of the car and totally froze. He started to scream and cry that he hit a woman walking with a pram walking on the road. He totally freaked out and his wife couldn't settle him. She drove him home and had to ring a family friend who was a doctor, he got him settled after a while. Turned out there was a woman killed on the corner an over 50 years ago by a drunk driver and other people have said they've seen the same vision as he had saw.
I also have heard tell of a man who saw a hearse outside the chapel one night and figures carrying a coffin into the graveyard. When he got closer there wasn't a thing there but he could smell petrol and the scent of a warm engine. He was the caretaker of the chapel and was locking up after midnight mass.
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 16, 2024, 06:44:51 PMRelative of mine worked in a hospital for years and you would not believe the stories.
Fire a few in
Quote from: 03,05,08 on October 16, 2024, 09:38:12 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on October 16, 2024, 06:44:51 PMRelative of mine worked in a hospital for years and you would not believe the stories.
Fire a few in
Lights switching on and off by themselves.
Voices heard in disused parts of the hospital.
A chair fell by itself.
A group photo of staff showing an extra leg in the group that does not belong to anyone (hard to describe without seeing but it looked like a patient leg in amongst a group of staff uniforms).
I'm very sceptical by nature myself, but it's weird.
People smiling at dead relatives right before the end (may be the brain chemicals already mentioned, but it's really common).
For a few weeks before my Granda died he was mostly bed-bound. He kept staring at the bottom of the bed and asking who that boy was with no-one there. He was still mentally aware and had his wits about him, but it freaked me out.
I've had that sleep paralysis thing on a few occasions, weird thing that can really freak you out, the way I'd describe my experience was like an unmovable weight on my chest while in a semi-conscious state on my back in bed, I could hear myself meekly crying out for help.
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 17, 2024, 01:48:21 PMFor a few weeks before my Granda died he was mostly bed-bound. He kept staring at the bottom of the bed and asking who that boy was with no-one there. He was still mentally aware and had his wits about him, but it freaked me out.
That kind of thing is very common. It's called the third man syndrome/factor, and is open to both supernatural and natural interpretations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_man_factor
I've heard many stories of people dying looking at or calling someone by name who have already died.
Opening the window after someone dies too to let their spirit out. Some could sense the restless spirit in the room if the spirit is trapped and can't escape , or so I heard it said. How the restless spirit behaves in that instance , I don't know
Also, heard many occasions of a knock at the door or window, around the same time that someone died.
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 17, 2024, 05:59:42 PMAlso, heard many occasions of a knock at the door or window, around the same time that someone died.
Likely a memorial card salesman.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 17, 2024, 10:40:57 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on October 17, 2024, 05:59:42 PMAlso, heard many occasions of a knock at the door or window, around the same time that someone died.
Likely a memorial card salesman.
In the middle of the night?? :D
Now you mention it , those sh1tes don't be long sending their memorial card brochures to grieving families. Remember after my dad died , probably within a few days they had sent stuff to the house. B@stards.
Also, heard many a story about an extra pair of feet being wiped behind the last person on the mat entering the house, but nobody is there. Apparently it's another signal of a death.
Was going to suggest it would be an interesting one to have a poll about, until I saw there's already one there. Have you all voted? Would be interesting to know the split between believers/non-believers.
Quote from: Snapchap on October 17, 2024, 11:39:54 PMWas going to suggest it would be an interesting one to have a poll about, until I saw there's already one there. Have you all voted? Would be interesting to know the split between believers/non-believers.
I would suggest a third option of not sure
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 17, 2024, 05:59:42 PMI've heard many stories of people dying looking at or calling someone by name who have already died.
Opening the window after someone dies too to let their spirit out. Some could sense the restless spirit in the room if the spirit is trapped and can't escape , or so I heard it said. How the restless spirit behaves in that instance , I don't know
Also, heard many occasions of a knock at the door or window, around the same time that someone died.
Have heard unexplained knocks and voices. Has a strange correlation to coming off a good weekend on the beer.
Why do people always see hooded figures, or a woman all in white? Why is it never an EMO kid,a milkman, or an old punk rocker?
Quote from: Taylor on October 18, 2024, 08:33:51 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 17, 2024, 11:39:54 PMWas going to suggest it would be an interesting one to have a poll about, until I saw there's already one there. Have you all voted? Would be interesting to know the split between believers/non-believers.
I would suggest a third option of not sure
Get off the fence!!
Quote from: haveaharp on October 18, 2024, 08:50:58 AMWhy do people always see hooded figures, or a woman all in white? Why is it never an EMO kid,a milkman, or an old punk rocker?
Have seen comments on other forums that people do see modern day ghosts but because they are contemporary dressed they don't stand out as a ghost. Our minds our conditioned to think ghosts look like they should come from the Victorian era etc and not modern day, and that's why those ghosts are obviously noticed a lot more.
Didn't arch-physicist Prof. Brian Cox I think state that ghosts, if they were a form of energy, couldn't exist, that it was impossible.
Do atheists believe in ghosts?
Quote from: haveaharp on October 18, 2024, 08:50:58 AMWhy do people always see hooded figures, or a woman all in white? Why is it never an EMO kid,a milkman, or an old punk rocker?
Because they all go straight to hell when they die.
;D
Quote from: Snapchap on October 18, 2024, 09:57:57 AMQuote from: Taylor on October 18, 2024, 08:33:51 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 17, 2024, 11:39:54 PMWas going to suggest it would be an interesting one to have a poll about, until I saw there's already one there. Have you all voted? Would be interesting to know the split between believers/non-believers.
I would suggest a third option of not sure
Get off the fence!!
Seeing is believing!
Quote from: Taylor on October 18, 2024, 12:57:37 PMQuote from: Snapchap on October 18, 2024, 09:57:57 AMQuote from: Taylor on October 18, 2024, 08:33:51 AMQuote from: Snapchap on October 17, 2024, 11:39:54 PMWas going to suggest it would be an interesting one to have a poll about, until I saw there's already one there. Have you all voted? Would be interesting to know the split between believers/non-believers.
I would suggest a third option of not sure
Get off the fence!!
Seeing is believing!
I'd go along with that, and to date I havent seen anything of note. I'm open to be convinced though and I do love a good ghost story/film.
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 18, 2024, 10:44:16 AMQuote from: haveaharp on October 18, 2024, 08:50:58 AMWhy do people always see hooded figures, or a woman all in white? Why is it never an EMO kid,a milkman, or an old punk rocker?
Because they all go straight to hell when they die.
;D
I know...fecking milkmen are the spawn of the devil!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2024, 03:59:54 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on October 18, 2024, 10:44:16 AMQuote from: haveaharp on October 18, 2024, 08:50:58 AMWhy do people always see hooded figures, or a woman all in white? Why is it never an EMO kid,a milkman, or an old punk rocker?
Because they all go straight to hell when they die.
;D
I know...fecking milkmen are the spawn of the devil!
Yep - sneaking about on their silent milk floats so you can't hear them coming. Always up to no good.
They're right up there with EV drivers.
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 16, 2024, 06:44:51 PMRelative of mine worked in a hospital for years and you would not believe the stories.
People dying and shit
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2024, 10:49:15 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on October 16, 2024, 06:44:51 PMRelative of mine worked in a hospital for years and you would not believe the stories.
People dying and shit
Indeed, I would not believe that.
There are no ghosts. There are no spirits.
In this age of every buckin thing recorded these ethereal hoors would be exposed.
Everything can be explained.
There was a crazy story in Belfast a couple of years ago about a Spar owner entering an employee's house while she was working to go through her knicker drawer and pleasure himself.
She had noticed things like her duvet being untidy when she came home and "assumed it was a ghost". Set up a camera and caught him.
Anyway, "assumed it was a ghost"...wtf? Crazy and all as that story is, "assumed it was a ghost" is as bad as it gets.
Quote from: Aristo 60 on October 16, 2024, 12:16:59 PMI, 100%, don't believe in ghosts but as I've the time today to tell the story below, I will.
Around 12 years ago myself and my lady were staying in a well known Dublin hotel that I only learned after our stay has a history of ghost(s).
I was in bed (likely asleep) when a paralysing fear the like of which I had never experienced before or since came over me. Someone was in the room. Try as I might, my body would not move but seemingly I was at least semi conscious as I could feel my heart absolutely pounding with fear. The paralysis persisted for what seemed like an eternity. On reflection now I think I was probably dreaming or in some state of semi consciousness - but in my mind's eye I could clearly see a hooded / cloaked figure moving in the room - but particularly just inside the door of the room. I don't know whether I went back into a deep sleep at that point but the 'event' definitely ended for me and all was well.
Until the following.
Later that same night the girlfriend, who would sometimes talk in her sleep, woke or at least partially woke me. She was in a full on state of panic (but as I know now also probably asleep) - claiming someone was in our room. This time I was more awake but again teetering on the edge of consciousness. Having had my own experience on the same night, my heart obviously immediately started doing somersaults - but instead of me reacting to her claim I softly scolded her back to sleep by telling her not to be silly. That was totally contrary to what I was feeling and for the second time I was completely paralysed with fear.
The second 'event' passed as well and all was fine.
When we woke the next morning our respective 'dreams' were all we could talk about. It was obvious that no-one had physically been in the room but both of us 'saw' the same cloaked / hooded figure loitering in the room and both visions were in dreams / semi consciousness. I could see now that my mind's eye view of the figure standing in the doorway couldn't have been the case as the door wasn't visible from the bed - but both of us (we don't take drugs, little alcohol) were convinced that someone / something wearing a hooded cloak had been in the room.
The sense of fear that I experienced that night has never left me and I tried to explain it to several people until months later I was recounting the whole incident to an old aunt. Straight away she considered we'd be in the presence of a ghost.
That all said, I don't believe in ghosts - and neither should you. Laugh at me, ridicule me all you like but I wish that none of you experience the level of fear we did that night.
Both of you had sleep paralysis on the same night. Can happen.
I have it about 6 times a year. Usually due to 2 things: over-tired and sleeping on back.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2024, 03:59:54 PMQuote from: tbrick18 on October 18, 2024, 10:44:16 AMQuote from: haveaharp on October 18, 2024, 08:50:58 AMWhy do people always see hooded figures, or a woman all in white? Why is it never an EMO kid,a milkman, or an old punk rocker?
Because they all go straight to hell when they die.
;D
I know...fecking milkmen are the spawn of the devil!
This is about Pat Mustard isn't it
I don't know if I believe in ghosts but I believe we definitely get signs from the departed
One of my clients had a teenage son who got killed in an ATV accident. Before his death, the kids grandfather had entered his name into a drawing where first prize was a new ATV. The (now deceased) kid won the ATV-the winning ticket number was the date he died and the last 6 digits on the VIN were the kids DOB
I have a cousin who lost a 5 year old to brain cancer. She absolutely loved acorns-to the point there are acorns actually engraved on her headstone....it was her symbol. 4 hours after she passed away I had to drive to Connecticut from Boston. On the journey I let a car merge ahead of me.....it had a personalized license plate-ACORN
Interesting topic. Used to be big into ghost stories and 'true' ghost stories as a kid. It's a bit like religion, or even an offshoot of religious belief, but I'm happy to accept that ghosts are real/ plausible/ likely, while still plodding along through daily life without it impinging overly on how I go about life.
I absolutely believe there is some kind of reconnection in a different frequency after life. Physics dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but transformed into another iteration. Heaven won't be lolling around on a cloud listening to harps all day, but some form of image or construction was necessary as a framework as religions evolved. I think the capacity for spirituality exists in everyone- why are there so many parallels between many religions which developed across the world at a time when they all, or at least many of them, were independent of each other?
I'm not overly religious, but at the same time, if I did have kids, I'd bring them to mass, and do the sacraments, and all that. I'd pray with them morning and evening, but once they'd get to young adult or thereabouts, if they decide they want to stop themselves, then fair enough, it would be their choice. I always think when I read or hear someone proclaiming that they won't be indoctrinating their children, fine, but are you not blocking off avenues for the children to explore or develop their own spirituality? I always have to smile to myself when the more vocal insist that they or their kids won't be mere sheep in a cult- no, you're still a sheep, just in a different herd. Without wishing to get into a religion good/ religion bad debate, I've often wondered about a potential correlation in the decline in prayer/ religion, and increases in anxiety/ depression/ mental wellbeing issues. I'd imagine, say, in my grandparents time, there was a lot of resilience through prayer, because prayer was outsourcing problems or worries, and so becoming a crutch. Religion may well be the opium of the masses, but in that respect alone, it works enough for me.
And whenever I go to a funeral, and either offer or accept condolences- is it just purely a polite social construction to help us bypass a difficult emotional interaction? I was at a funeral recently of a very good friend's wife. Early 40s, two young kids still in primary school. Anyone who is adamant there is no God, no religion, no afterlife, that once you die, that's it, you just decay and rot. How can you be so absolutely sure? Plenty of the stories and examples given already in this thread can be interpreted in many ways, can be accepted or rejected on many grounds. We can't be definitive or absolute either way. Which is why I tend towards the idea that our life-force, or soul, or whatever, transforms to a different frequency, and that now and again, people in this life, for whatever reason or circumstances, can very briefly be tuned to a connection with this frequency (or frequencies), and this results in a supernatural experience.
Your heavens and hells would correspond to positive and negative energies. Asking if one believes in ghosts or not leads to another question, does good and evil actually exist, or are they just perception? Whenever I'm at Shakespeare's tragedies, I give the example of a glass of water. On its own, it's clear, but if you add just a spoonful of ribena, it circulates through the water, and stains it all. I think there's far more good in the world, but just a small amount of evil can taint a lot.
Are there ghosts? Yes, I think so.
Is there an afterlife? I think so, but I've no idea what it might be like.
Do I think I'll be reunited with deceased family and friends? I think that energies will combine again. I'm not sure will it be like being in a pub having a laugh with my best friend, or will it be sitting by the fireplace listening to stories from my grandparents like it was when I was a kid, but it will be something.
Do I think I'm on this world to try to be good, and in my own arse in pockets way, to be a force for good? Yes, I absolutely believe this. I'm no superhero, nor a biblical prophet. But I try my bit, every day, down to nodding at strangers or saluting cars I meet whether I know them or not (I live out in the sticks, so this is normal enough, it wouldn't really work in urban traffic!!).
I'm here because I'm part of something an awful lot bigger, so I have to try to make things or think things as good as I can.
I'll be awful pissed off if I find out eventually that I'm nothing more than a programmed NPC in a computer generated simulation...
I remember years ago, I had an incredibly vivid dream where my grandfather died.
I woke up filled with a sense of dread.
I picked up the phone and called his number. My gran answered, her voice a little cracked and dry. Is me granda there, I asked.
Sorry, she said... I'm afraid you missed him...
He's off playing bowls, should be back in an hour and a half or so...
Quote from: Substandard on October 19, 2024, 01:56:16 AMInteresting topic. Used to be big into ghost stories and 'true' ghost stories as a kid. It's a bit like religion, or even an offshoot of religious belief, but I'm happy to accept that ghosts are real/ plausible/ likely, while still plodding along through daily life without it impinging overly on how I go about life.
I absolutely believe there is some kind of reconnection in a different frequency after life. Physics dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but transformed into another iteration. Heaven won't be lolling around on a cloud listening to harps all day, but some form of image or construction was necessary as a framework as religions evolved. I think the capacity for spirituality exists in everyone- why are there so many parallels between many religions which developed across the world at a time when they all, or at least many of them, were independent of each other?
I'm not overly religious, but at the same time, if I did have kids, I'd bring them to mass, and do the sacraments, and all that. I'd pray with them morning and evening, but once they'd get to young adult or thereabouts, if they decide they want to stop themselves, then fair enough, it would be their choice. I always think when I read or hear someone proclaiming that they won't be indoctrinating their children, fine, but are you not blocking off avenues for the children to explore or develop their own spirituality? I always have to smile to myself when the more vocal insist that they or their kids won't be mere sheep in a cult- no, you're still a sheep, just in a different herd. Without wishing to get into a religion good/ religion bad debate, I've often wondered about a potential correlation in the decline in prayer/ religion, and increases in anxiety/ depression/ mental wellbeing issues. I'd imagine, say, in my grandparents time, there was a lot of resilience through prayer, because prayer was outsourcing problems or worries, and so becoming a crutch. Religion may well be the opium of the masses, but in that respect alone, it works enough for me.
And whenever I go to a funeral, and either offer or accept condolences- is it just purely a polite social construction to help us bypass a difficult emotional interaction? I was at a funeral recently of a very good friend's wife. Early 40s, two young kids still in primary school. Anyone who is adamant there is no God, no religion, no afterlife, that once you die, that's it, you just decay and rot. How can you be so absolutely sure? Plenty of the stories and examples given already in this thread can be interpreted in many ways, can be accepted or rejected on many grounds. We can't be definitive or absolute either way. Which is why I tend towards the idea that our life-force, or soul, or whatever, transforms to a different frequency, and that now and again, people in this life, for whatever reason or circumstances, can very briefly be tuned to a connection with this frequency (or frequencies), and this results in a supernatural experience.
Your heavens and hells would correspond to positive and negative energies. Asking if one believes in ghosts or not leads to another question, does good and evil actually exist, or are they just perception? Whenever I'm at Shakespeare's tragedies, I give the example of a glass of water. On its own, it's clear, but if you add just a spoonful of ribena, it circulates through the water, and stains it all. I think there's far more good in the world, but just a small amount of evil can taint a lot.
Are there ghosts? Yes, I think so.
Is there an afterlife? I think so, but I've no idea what it might be like.
Do I think I'll be reunited with deceased family and friends? I think that energies will combine again. I'm not sure will it be like being in a pub having a laugh with my best friend, or will it be sitting by the fireplace listening to stories from my grandparents like it was when I was a kid, but it will be something.
Do I think I'm on this world to try to be good, and in my own arse in pockets way, to be a force for good? Yes, I absolutely believe this. I'm no superhero, nor a biblical prophet. But I try my bit, every day, down to nodding at strangers or saluting cars I meet whether I know them or not (I live out in the sticks, so this is normal enough, it wouldn't really work in urban traffic!!).
I'm here because I'm part of something an awful lot bigger, so I have to try to make things or think things as good as I can.
I'll be awful pissed off if I find out eventually that I'm nothing more than a programmed NPC in a computer generated simulation...
Enjoyed that read.
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 19, 2024, 12:37:58 PMQuote from: Substandard on October 19, 2024, 01:56:16 AMInteresting topic. Used to be big into ghost stories and 'true' ghost stories as a kid. It's a bit like religion, or even an offshoot of religious belief, but I'm happy to accept that ghosts are real/ plausible/ likely, while still plodding along through daily life without it impinging overly on how I go about life.
I absolutely believe there is some kind of reconnection in a different frequency after life. Physics dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but transformed into another iteration. Heaven won't be lolling around on a cloud listening to harps all day, but some form of image or construction was necessary as a framework as religions evolved. I think the capacity for spirituality exists in everyone- why are there so many parallels between many religions which developed across the world at a time when they all, or at least many of them, were independent of each other?
I'm not overly religious, but at the same time, if I did have kids, I'd bring them to mass, and do the sacraments, and all that. I'd pray with them morning and evening, but once they'd get to young adult or thereabouts, if they decide they want to stop themselves, then fair enough, it would be their choice. I always think when I read or hear someone proclaiming that they won't be indoctrinating their children, fine, but are you not blocking off avenues for the children to explore or develop their own spirituality? I always have to smile to myself when the more vocal insist that they or their kids won't be mere sheep in a cult- no, you're still a sheep, just in a different herd. Without wishing to get into a religion good/ religion bad debate, I've often wondered about a potential correlation in the decline in prayer/ religion, and increases in anxiety/ depression/ mental wellbeing issues. I'd imagine, say, in my grandparents time, there was a lot of resilience through prayer, because prayer was outsourcing problems or worries, and so becoming a crutch. Religion may well be the opium of the masses, but in that respect alone, it works enough for me.
And whenever I go to a funeral, and either offer or accept condolences- is it just purely a polite social construction to help us bypass a difficult emotional interaction? I was at a funeral recently of a very good friend's wife. Early 40s, two young kids still in primary school. Anyone who is adamant there is no God, no religion, no afterlife, that once you die, that's it, you just decay and rot. How can you be so absolutely sure? Plenty of the stories and examples given already in this thread can be interpreted in many ways, can be accepted or rejected on many grounds. We can't be definitive or absolute either way. Which is why I tend towards the idea that our life-force, or soul, or whatever, transforms to a different frequency, and that now and again, people in this life, for whatever reason or circumstances, can very briefly be tuned to a connection with this frequency (or frequencies), and this results in a supernatural experience.
Your heavens and hells would correspond to positive and negative energies. Asking if one believes in ghosts or not leads to another question, does good and evil actually exist, or are they just perception? Whenever I'm at Shakespeare's tragedies, I give the example of a glass of water. On its own, it's clear, but if you add just a spoonful of ribena, it circulates through the water, and stains it all. I think there's far more good in the world, but just a small amount of evil can taint a lot.
Are there ghosts? Yes, I think so.
Is there an afterlife? I think so, but I've no idea what it might be like.
Do I think I'll be reunited with deceased family and friends? I think that energies will combine again. I'm not sure will it be like being in a pub having a laugh with my best friend, or will it be sitting by the fireplace listening to stories from my grandparents like it was when I was a kid, but it will be something.
Do I think I'm on this world to try to be good, and in my own arse in pockets way, to be a force for good? Yes, I absolutely believe this. I'm no superhero, nor a biblical prophet. But I try my bit, every day, down to nodding at strangers or saluting cars I meet whether I know them or not (I live out in the sticks, so this is normal enough, it wouldn't really work in urban traffic!!).
I'm here because I'm part of something an awful lot bigger, so I have to try to make things or think things as good as I can.
I'll be awful pissed off if I find out eventually that I'm nothing more than a programmed NPC in a computer generated simulation...
Enjoyed that read.
100%.
A great and interesting read.
@Look-up - you raised a good point with religion drop off and anxiety rise. Might be something in that
I'm not religious. I might only be at mass less than 5 times a year, for funerals, anniversaries etc. But I do miss the serenity of churches. In a strange way , I sort of admire those with a strong faith , as it might bring a lot of peace , calmness to their lives. Those quiet moments during the day or in mass , where they sit with their thoughts/prayers in silence. Mindfulness is a buzz word these days , but these yoga retreats/meditation, off grid holidays or whatever has in effect filled the hole where religion once was. Mass/prayer was a lot of people's mindfulness previously
Anywhere different I go , or on holiday , I always try to pop into a church. Some of it for the architecture and beauty of the building, but also just to take a few moments to just sit in silence with my thoughts. Take stock , mull over a few thoughts. Clear the mind. It does help the mind and body to relax and think about yourself, other people and about what's important. I definitely don't do that enough in daily life as modern life can be hectic. So I suppose church and religion still has its place in modern life for a lot of people
Anyway, back to ghosts.........
Good post. A few years ago I was noseying in around Liverpool Cathedral and it happened to be Choir practice or something and in my mildly hungover state it was one of the most serene experiences of my life sitting there looking around me without a care in the world for 5 or 10 minutes.
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 19, 2024, 01:26:00 PM@Look-up - you raised a good point with religion drop off and anxiety rise. Might be something in that
I'm not religious. I might only be at mass less than 5 times a year, for funerals, anniversaries etc. But I do miss the serenity of churches. In a strange way , I sort of admire those with a strong faith , as it might bring a lot of peace , calmness to their lives. Those quiet moments during the day or in mass , where they sit with their thoughts/prayers in silence. Mindfulness is a buzz word these days , but these yoga retreats/meditation, off grid holidays or whatever has in effect filled the hole where religion once was. Mass/prayer was a lot of people's mindfulness previously
Anywhere different I go , or on holiday , I always try to pop into a church. Some of it for the architecture and beauty of the building, but also just to take a few moments to just sit in silence with my thoughts. Take stock , mull over a few thoughts. Clear the mind. It does help the mind and body to relax and think about yourself, other people and about what's important. I definitely don't do that enough in daily life as modern life can be hectic. So I suppose church and religion still has its place in modern life for a lot of people
Anyway, back to ghosts.........
100% the way I feel about it all too
What about Ardal O Hanlon's spooky story on the Late Late show last night? How do you explain that?
Bit of a mad story.
Bambi Thug was very good, that song she sang was much better than her Eurovision song.
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 26, 2024, 04:43:55 PM
4:08
Wow.
And what was the lady with the pram there for?
No follow up questions asked?!
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 26, 2024, 06:48:49 PMBit of a mad story.
Bambi Thug was very good, that song she sang was much better than her Eurovision song.
Are you allowed to call they "she"?
There's no ghosts. Will yiz wise up.
Anyone from Belfast will tell ya bout the story from 91 Beechmount. Think there's a book about it not 100% sure but if you hear that story it would take some explaining g to say there's no such thing as ghosts. I'm sure someone who knows the story well can post it.
I heard there were visions in Mayo of a great crowd with bad teeth on bicycles following a man dressed like an elf holding up a giant goblet.
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2024, 12:06:03 AMThere's no ghosts. Will yiz wise up.
Not even the Brackaville Ghost?
Quote from: clarshack on October 27, 2024, 01:12:58 AMQuote from: ONeill on October 27, 2024, 12:06:03 AMThere's no ghosts. Will yiz wise up.
Not even the Brackaville Ghost?
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2024, 12:06:03 AMThere's no ghosts. Will yiz wise up.
Would ya say that to the Coonen ghost's face? You would aye!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 26, 2024, 10:04:30 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on October 26, 2024, 06:48:49 PMBit of a mad story.
Bambi Thug was very good, that song she sang was much better than her Eurovision song.
Are you allowed to call they "she"?
;D