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Title: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: gallsman on March 08, 2011, 12:20:55 AM
Anyone see this show last night? Professor Brian Cox's follow up to the excellent Wonders of the Solar System from last year.

Looks very good again.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: ziggysego on March 08, 2011, 12:27:37 AM
Sky+ it. Looking forward to sitting down to watch it, hopefully tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: highorlow on March 08, 2011, 11:28:09 AM
It will never top an idiot abroad...
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2011, 11:51:30 AM
A bit to much posing on top of things whilst the helicopter panned around him for my liking. Do we really need that much "style" to encourage people to absorb the "substance"? Maybe we do

Still enjoyed it though
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: deiseach on March 08, 2011, 11:57:38 AM
I can't watch it. Brian Cox's manner gets on my wick. Pity
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2011, 11:51:30 AM
A bit to much posing on top of things whilst the helicopter panned around him for my liking. Do we really need that much "style" to encourage people to absorb the "substance"? Maybe we do

Still enjoyed it though
Same as that. He must have blown the BBC budget for the year. Did enjoy it even though some of the stuff would make your brain hurt.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Olly on March 08, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
Green eyed monster on this thread.

He's such a dreamboat.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Hardy on March 08, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2011, 11:51:30 AM
A bit to much posing on top of things whilst the helicopter panned around him for my liking. Do we really need that much "style" to encourage people to absorb the "substance"? Maybe we do

Still enjoyed it though
Same as that. He must have blown the BBC budget for the year. Did enjoy it even though some of the stuff would make your brain hurt.

That stuff gets irritating OK. I don't see the point in flying to South America just to walk along a beach towards a hill. The whole presentation style seems to be about scenery. It seems stupid to me to be showing panning shots of a mountain range while trying to explain entropy when you should be maximising the power of the visual medium you're using by deploying computer graphics and animation to illustrate the concept. 

As regards his personal presentation, he seems to be trying hard to lose the smirk, so a B+ for effort.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: deiseach on March 08, 2011, 03:44:23 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 08, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
As regards his personal presentation, he seems to be trying hard to lose the smirk, so a B+ for effort.

Might give it a second chance then, previously he came across like a used car salesman
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Hardy on March 08, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
A word of warning, though - he hasn't fully succeeded.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: deiseach on March 08, 2011, 04:03:51 PM
When I'm driving around in a lovely litle mo'ar only ever owned by a little ol' lady who used it to go to the shops, then the exhaust falls off, I'll come gunning for you Hardy
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: mountainboii on March 08, 2011, 05:57:31 PM
Really like Brian Cox, unsettling smirk and all, but was disappointed by the show. While there was the odd interesting bit, far too much of the hour was taken up by very tenuously related scenes of glaciers and shipwrecks and turtles. Cox needs to lay off the Sagan DVDs too, there are only so many millions and billions that you can throw out there before people stop even trying to compute.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: highorlow on March 08, 2011, 11:28:09 AM
It will never top an idiot abroad...
Millions and billions?! He used the following sentence "It's 10,000 trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion years". He could have just said a long time - who can prove it will be that long?
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: bennydorano on March 08, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 08, 2011, 05:57:31 PM
Really like Brian Cox, unsettling smirk and all, but was disappointed by the show. While there was the odd interesting bit, far too much of the hour was taken up by very tenuously related scenes of glaciers and shipwrecks and turtles. Cox needs to lay off the Sagan DVDs too, there are only so many millions and billions that you can throw out there before people stop even trying to compute.
As someone who watches anything cosmologically related on the Documentary channels I have to agree, I dont know how he's going to stretch it to four shows either, there's going to be some fierce padding.  Still a relaxing hour's viewing thou.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: upmonaghansayswe on March 10, 2011, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: deiseach on March 08, 2011, 11:57:38 AM
I can't watch it. Brian Cox's manner gets on my wick. Pity

http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/)

On the right hand side.. "Jon Culshaw mimics Ricky Gervais".. Does a good Brian Cox.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: HiMucker on March 10, 2011, 03:04:38 PM
Feck it creationism is much easier to understand.  The whole universe will stop in trillions of years was mind pickling.  Could another one not just start?  How did the first one start.  Great show but the human mind just cant comprehend these things.   He did say though on an earlier show that science was all just about the best theory at the the time, until another theory disproves it, so our great great great great great......................grand children still have hope
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Square Ball on March 10, 2011, 03:53:09 PM
find this show fasinating, but as himucker says mind blowing the time scales used. Makes a lot of the stuff easier to understand, especially the red dwarf stars and how thet will be the last to go out
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2011, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on March 10, 2011, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: deiseach on March 08, 2011, 11:57:38 AM
I can't watch it. Brian Cox's manner gets on my wick. Pity

http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/)

On the right hand side.. "Jon Culshaw mimics Ricky Gervais".. Does a good Brian Cox.
Culshaw "hosted" the 700th episode of The Sky at Night a few nights ago. Cox was a guest as was Dr. Brian May.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: Olly on March 10, 2011, 08:13:08 PM
The BBC should look into getting this guy to front their weather programmes.  He talks about things happening in billions of years time whereas BBC NI's Barra Best said today that the weather forecast for tomorrow was still uncertain. Cox can predict the end of the world with total accuracy but Best doesn't know if it will really snow tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: gallsman on March 10, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: highorlow on March 08, 2011, 11:28:09 AM
It will never top an idiot abroad...
Millions and billions?! He used the following sentence "It's 10,000 trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion years". He could have just said a long time - who can prove it will be that long?

The point of that was to presumably attempt to explain the incomprehensible scale of the whole thing. IF he'd said 10^76 years, would you have grasped the scale? Or be any closer to doing so?
Title: Re: Wonders of the Universe
Post by: HiMucker on March 11, 2011, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 10, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: highorlow on March 08, 2011, 11:28:09 AM
It will never top an idiot abroad...
Millions and billions?! He used the following sentence "It’s 10,000 trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion years". He could have just said a long time - who can prove it will be that long?

The point of that was to presumably attempt to explain the incomprehensible scale of the whole thing. IF he'd said 10^76 years, would you have grasped the scale? Or be any closer to doing so?
I liked the quote when he said if you counted all the atoms in that made up everything in the universe you wouldn't have enough atoms for every year until the end.  You would need some size of abacus