we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish bastards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
Legitimate targets for what? Bullets!?
Thankfully we descended to that level yet....
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
???
What are you talking about?! They were voted in for starters
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
Why stop there? What about the people who lived above their means,spent a fortune on credit cards, got huge loans and mortgages they could never afford to pay back! What about the union leaders who kept threatening strike unless they got higher wages and who have to be held in some way responsible for driving factory jobs out of this country! I could go on and on but we have to stop blaming and try to get back on our feet and find solutions to the problems we all face!!!!!!!!
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2010, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
???
What are you talking about?! They were voted in for starters
A question was asked on another thread "why are there no protests in this country and why are the riot police training out in dundalk? " question answered. Wind up Thread.
Jesus you Armagh fellas must be getting bored since the ceasefire and are looking for anything to return to your barbaric ways.
Peter Solan the Great............Now theres a legitimate target
TRATIORS!!!!
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1123/politicsprotest.html
I think we will see more of this to be honest. Whether you agree with it or not I wouldn't be surpirsed if a few politicians get their noses bloodied in the upcoming weeks, along with offices and banks attacked and vandalised.
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
Sure we'll be ok, your government is helping bail us out ;)
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
And they stole your CAPS lock and spell checker.
Tratiors is a Tyrone/Fermanagh word for potatoes.
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
We should NUKE them all...thats everyone :D
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
Aye, even in the most uncertain of times, you can always rely on militant Irish Republicans for consistency and predictability.
So when all else has failed, why not revert to that policy which has failed all of us the longest and deepest, Violence? >:(
Scum, nothing more, nothing less... ::)
the very term "legitimate targets" is absolutely revolting.
Quote from: thejuice on November 23, 2010, 01:39:54 PM
TRATIORS!!!!
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1123/politicsprotest.html
I think we will see more of this to be honest. Whether you agree with it or not I wouldn't be surpirsed if a few politicians get their noses bloodied in the upcoming weeks, along with offices and banks attacked and vandalised.
I wouldn't fancy being a FF election candidate going around knocking on doors looking for votes anyway. Reckon there is a good chance of a few busted lips alright.
Remind them when they come knocking on your door,if elected ,that they will now have as much power in the Dail as a county councillor has currently.
SELL OUT NOT BAIL OUT
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek stupidity of it.
Fixed that for you....there was never going to be any end to the great times.. right? ::)
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
Quote from: Evil Genius on November 23, 2010, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
we'll they're the guys who handed the keys of the country to outsiders, bankrupted the place, they leave their citizens dying on hospital trolleys. they help themselves to huge wages and pensions while irish people are evicted from their homes, they've quadtroupled emigration,and trebled suicide, they allowed the irish people to pick up the compo bill for the clergy, they bought the voting machines.. now they're training the defence forces to beat irish citizens of the street should they move against them. the irish government have done more damage to ireland than any outside force have ever done. they are the enemy within. selfish b**tards who think its their birth right to rule this country they're the new cheiftains all related to each other and all minding each others backs.. legitmate targets??
Aye, even in the most uncertain of times, you can always rely on militant Irish Republicans for consistency and predictability.
So when all else has failed, why not revert to that policy which has failed all of us the longest and deepest, Violence? >:(
Scum, nothing more, nothing less... ::)
Whats to say all those who have posted since criticising the OP arent actually militant republicans??
Hugh Hefner and Andy Murray maybe.
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
Well said EC.
People's heads were up their holes (and still are it seems).
5 bedroom houses the couldnt afford, the newest motors with huge repayments on etc but as long as it looked good that was the main thing ::)
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
Nothing - I just want to be in a position in years to come where I want to work until I'm 65, not where I have to work until I'm 65.
Some difference.
ok let me put it another way. the government are currently raising a force to deal with their own citizens, water cannon, dye, tear gas, mace, telecopic batons, vicious dogs, plastic bullets. they are very ready to use violence against us. they have had to be taken to court to get them to hold a by-election and they're actually contesting the other 3 court cases pending. so they have denied the citizens of ireland democracy. this government are the most destructive administration since cromwell at least his victoms were killed and they're suffering was over. if you could go back in time wouldnt you take out cromwell? michael colllins was shot for treachery and he only lost the 6. these gobshites have lost the whole place..
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 10:19:26 PM
ok let me put it another way. the government are currently raising a force to deal with their own citizens, water cannon, dye, tear gas, mace, telecopic batons, vicious dogs, plastic bullets. they are very ready to use violence against us. they have had to be taken to court to get them to hold a by-election and they're actually contesting the other 3 court cases pending. so they have denied the citizens of ireland democracy. this government are the most destructive administration since cromwell at least his victoms were killed and they're suffering was over. if you could go back in time wouldnt you take out cromwell? michael colllins was shot for treachery and he only lost the 6. these gobshites have lost the whole place..
Things must be just as bad in the UK as it is here
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 10:19:26 PM
ok let me put it another way. the government are currently raising a force to deal with their own citizens, water cannon, dye, tear gas, mace, telecopic batons, vicious dogs, plastic bullets. they are very ready to use violence against us. they have had to be taken to court to get them to hold a by-election and they're actually contesting the other 3 court cases pending. so they have denied the citizens of ireland democracy. this government are the most destructive administration since cromwell at least his victoms were killed and they're suffering was over. if you could go back in time wouldnt you take out cromwell? michael colllins was shot for treachery and he only lost the 6. these gobshites have lost the whole place..
That's exactly to a word what's going on here...though you'd never know listening to the news >:(
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
EC is absolutely right, keeping up with the Jones's has a large part to do with it. Easy money all too readily accepted with not a second thought. No disrespect to your ordinary branch bank worker but I wouldn't be taking my financial advice off them. Everyone has the responsibility to know their own limits as far as I'm concerned, no excuses. Buying a home (or a second home) is no joke, but too many did it with no thought whatsoever.
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
Did you take it?
If not, why? ::)
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 23, 2010, 01:12:36 PM
Why stop there? What about the people who lived above their means,spent a fortune on credit cards, got huge loans and mortgages they could never afford to pay back! What about the union leaders who kept threatening strike unless they got higher wages and who have to be held in some way responsible for driving factory jobs out of this country! I could go on and on but we have to stop blaming and try to get back on our feet and find solutions to the problems we all face!!!!!!!!
Agree with all this.
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 10:19:26 PM
ok let me put it another way. the government are currently raising a force to deal with their own citizens, water cannon, dye, tear gas, mace, telecopic batons, vicious dogs, plastic bullets. they are very ready to use violence against us. they have had to be taken to court to get them to hold a by-election and they're actually contesting the other 3 court cases pending. so they have denied the citizens of ireland democracy. this government are the most destructive administration since cromwell at least his victoms were killed and they're suffering was over. if you could go back in time wouldnt you take out cromwell? michael colllins was shot for treachery and he only lost the 6. these gobshites have lost the whole place..
in an absolute nutshell
Quote from: lawnseed on November 23, 2010, 10:19:26 PM
ok let me put it another way. the government are currently raising a force to deal with their own citizens, water cannon, dye, tear gas, mace, telecopic batons, vicious dogs, plastic bullets. they are very ready to use violence against us. they have had to be taken to court to get them to hold a by-election and they're actually contesting the other 3 court cases pending. so they have denied the citizens of ireland democracy. this government are the most destructive administration since cromwell at least his victoms were killed and they're suffering was over. if you could go back in time wouldnt you take out cromwell? michael colllins was shot for treachery and he only lost the 6. these gobshites have lost the whole place..
Right. So how about answering your own question. Are they legitimate targets?
What - the guards and the army are coming around to my house with tear gas and plastic bullets? Or are they planning to sneak up behind me in the shopping centre?
Quote from: Hardy on November 24, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
What - the guards and the army are coming around to my house with tear gas and plastic bullets? Or are they planning to sneak up behind me in the shopping centre?
If the gardai act anything like you Meath hoors on the football field,that would be more likely ;)
Always unarmed, though.
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
No matter what, the person who signs the dotted line and takes the loan is responsible for that loan. No ifs or buts.
I will go back to my original statement but to a different part:
Quoteeveryone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
you seem to be a perfect example of this.
Quote from: Hardy on November 24, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Always unarmed, though.
You don't need arms to stamp on people
Quote from: EC Unique on November 24, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
No matter what, the person who signs the dotted line and takes the loan is responsible for that loan. No ifs or buts.
I will go back to my original statement but to a different part:
Quoteeveryone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
you seem to be a perfect example of this.
And you aren't? We are both in the blame game here - you blaming the people, with me directing the blame towards the financial institutions.
Its just I hate the sentiment of - Let the s**t trickle down and we'll keep ourselves clean.
I will also direct you to the initial point in this thread, which Lawnseed states about the ruling parties - I suppose all of that is the people's fault as well?
All the spin coming from our governments seems to have worked on some....
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 24, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 24, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
No matter what, the person who signs the dotted line and takes the loan is responsible for that loan. No ifs or buts.
I will go back to my original statement but to a different part:
Quoteeveryone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
you seem to be a perfect example of this.
And you aren't? We are both in the blame game here - you blaming the people, with me directing the blame towards the financial institutions.
Its just I hate the sentiment of - Let the s**t trickle down and we'll keep ourselves clean.
I will also direct you to the initial point in this thread, which Lawnseed states about the ruling parties - I suppose all of that is the people's fault as well?
All the spin coming from our governments seems to have worked on some....
Why didn't you take the 100 grand they offered or did you?
Quote from: thebigfella on November 24, 2010, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 24, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 24, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
No matter what, the person who signs the dotted line and takes the loan is responsible for that loan. No ifs or buts.
I will go back to my original statement but to a different part:
Quoteeveryone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
you seem to be a perfect example of this.
And you aren't? We are both in the blame game here - you blaming the people, with me directing the blame towards the financial institutions.
Its just I hate the sentiment of - Let the s**t trickle down and we'll keep ourselves clean.
I will also direct you to the initial point in this thread, which Lawnseed states about the ruling parties - I suppose all of that is the people's fault as well?
All the spin coming from our governments seems to have worked on some....
Why didn't you take the 100 grand they offered or did you?
Maybe I did, maybe I didn't - sorry to be blase - but the whole story would bore both you and myself, and would also take away from the main point of this thread.
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 24, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 24, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
No matter what, the person who signs the dotted line and takes the loan is responsible for that loan. No ifs or buts.
I will go back to my original statement but to a different part:
Quoteeveryone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
you seem to be a perfect example of this.
And you aren't? We are both in the blame game here - you blaming the people, with me directing the blame towards the financial institutions.
Its just I hate the sentiment of - Let the s**t trickle down and we'll keep ourselves clean.
I will also direct you to the initial point in this thread, which Lawnseed states about the ruling parties - I suppose all of that is the people's fault as well?
All the spin coming from our governments seems to have worked on some....
Who put them there?
QuoteWho put them there?
The same people that
still won't admit there are any problems with their actions in how they voted, much like the Brainwashed Obama ideologues in this country...and lets not forget, there were a fair few them here on the board also!!
Hope and Change alright ::)
Quote from: EC Unique on November 24, 2010, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 24, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 24, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
The Irish public are to blame. They voted in the government, they went to the banks to borrow money, they put up their rates to do any work, they lived lavish lifestyles with nice motors, holidays and second homes, they bought the kids quad bikes for Christmas, they went into the pub and paid 8euro a pint, they...... I could go on but the point is that everyone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
Jeez - imagine wanting to live a good quality life, treat your kids and make money so that they have a good life and so you don't have to work until you're 65.
Imagine the cheek of it.
Everything in moderation is fine but too many people were living beyond their means living a wealthy lifestyle when in fact they were not wealthy people. A lot of keeping up with the Jones' to blame. It is the same in the north. A ridiculous amount of 3000+ sq Ft houses built that people now are struggling to keep. 2 Children but 5 bedrooms would not be unusual. Madness, but we were all blind to it.
By the way, what is wrong with having to work until you are 65?
But who was throwing the money at them?
It wasn't falling out of the trees.
The bankers (spelt with a silent w) and financiers were supposed to be the experts here and the ill advice led a lot of good-willed people up the garden path.
In 2005, I was offered £100,000.00 on top of my mortgage even though myself and the wife's joint income was less than £50,000. They were practically begging us to take it.
Know another fella, big GAA name, who was offered £750,000.00, no questions asked, by Anglo Irish Bank, for developing property.
So to go back to your original quote,EC, is this really the Irish Publics fault? Hindsight is a wonderful thing
No matter what, the person who signs the dotted line and takes the loan is responsible for that loan. No ifs or buts.
I will go back to my original statement but to a different part:
Quoteeveryone is to blame but now everyone is looking for somebody else to blame. Human nature.
you seem to be a perfect example of this.
And you aren't? We are both in the blame game here - you blaming the people, with me directing the blame towards the financial institutions.
Its just I hate the sentiment of - Let the s**t trickle down and we'll keep ourselves clean.
I will also direct you to the initial point in this thread, which Lawnseed states about the ruling parties - I suppose all of that is the people's fault as well?
All the spin coming from our governments seems to have worked on some....
Who put them there?
Who put what where?
look what the forces of law and order did to that lone protester who DARED to stand in front of mary hanafins chauffer driven merc, they beat him to the ground, hes had 3 charges against him, all shite, and he could get a year in jail. reminds me of that lone chinese kid standing out in front of the tank. fukn disgrace what about free speech and the right of protest >:( >:( >:(
fianna fail ministers (shits) have been given armed guards according to the meejah.. all they have to do is call an election. would you ever get tired of kicken willie o'dea