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Title: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: norabeag on August 03, 2010, 11:54:22 PM
Just heard on news that Joe Kernan has tendered his resignation
No real surprise as his tenure has been a bit of a damp squib
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross4life on August 03, 2010, 11:59:08 PM
After one year.... make's one wonder why did he bother taking the job in the first place?
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: norabeag on August 04, 2010, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: ross4life on August 03, 2010, 11:59:08 PM
After one year.... make's one wonder why did he bother taking the job in the first place?
yo yos? or maybe it was his family ties with Galway ;)
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross4life on August 04, 2010, 12:04:30 AM
Moran is getting plenty of yo yos from Leitrim & he's still there
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Maguire01 on August 04, 2010, 12:20:14 AM
That's a bit ridiculous. Unless it's for personal reasons you really need to give it a go for a few years, no matter how bad the first year went.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: tyroneStatto on August 04, 2010, 12:40:05 AM
think he should have given it another lash tbh.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 01:34:33 AM
Seems a strange one. I would have thought he would have given it another year to be honest and I think most people were happy to give him another year. He didn't have much luck with injuries and the like this year so I assumed he would be back for another go. Maybe he just got sick of the travel.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: stephenite on August 04, 2010, 02:49:02 AM
Apparently Kevin Walsh will be tendering his resignation to the Sligo County board also - looks like there's been a coup
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Clarin Pearl on August 04, 2010, 05:23:31 AM
unless Walsh wants to stand in midfield i think he should do another year in sligo
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ballinaman on August 04, 2010, 07:43:41 AM
Aer Arann will take a big hit so.... :P
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: The face on August 04, 2010, 07:57:21 AM
I'd say Monaghan will go after Kernan
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Logan on August 04, 2010, 08:40:27 AM
Maybe Banty can get enough money in for next year to team up Grimley and Joe again
::)
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Canalman on August 04, 2010, 09:14:18 AM
"Steps down" open to interperatation imo.

Pendulum swinging again towards "home grown " managers.

Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: small white mayoman on August 04, 2010, 09:31:55 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 04, 2010, 02:49:02 AM
Apparently Kevin Walsh will be tendering his resignation to the Sligo County board also - looks like there's been a coup

that should keep 1 sligo poster happy for a while
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: mckieran on August 04, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
I suspect that Kernan was unaware of the lack of depth of talent in Galway at the moment. That + the travelling may have been a big factor in this. Once Galway had the injuries they endured this year, they just do not have the replacements. Personally, I would liked to have seen him give it one more year. We werent a million miles away from an AI Q/F this year (Bradshaws mistake for the goal was all that was really in it because I firmly believe this Galway team would have beaten Ros). And as people say, there isnt much point just doing it for 1 year. He wouldnt have known much about the fring e players before this year. Maybe the travelling just got too much for him...

A whole review needs to be done of Galway football; Similiar to what is planned in Mayo
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: JMohan on August 04, 2010, 09:45:28 AM
McKieran, I think you put your finger on the button - Galway have a lack of talent available to them, and to build a new team you'd have to spend a lot of time on the ground in Galway. Time Kernan doesn't have coming in as an outside man.

Will be interesting to see what he does now.

Media would be my bet, unless Cross want him.

I can't see him going to another county, unless somewhere close (like as someone above said Monaghan, if Grimley isn't there! Stranger things have happened!)

Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 04, 2010, 10:27:17 AM
I know a well connected man in galway. There was going to be a heave against kernan and looks like he bailed first. He was costing galway upwards of a tonne which is crazy in these times.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 10:29:27 AM
cross wouldnt have the money for him now and i think they are happy with new managers from recent teams. monaghan that would be a surprise but not with grimley biggest fallout ever.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: thebackbar on August 04, 2010, 11:09:52 AM
I'm not surprised that he is going, I doubt they could of afforded him for another year. I'm sure anyone that contributed to his "expenses" last year would not of being impressed with the return they got this year.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Hardy on August 04, 2010, 11:15:57 AM
Yikes!
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: the Deel Rover on August 04, 2010, 11:17:35 AM
looks like another job for micko. would he be able to manage mayo amd galway and maybe we could share the expenses
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: mouview on August 04, 2010, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: mckieran on August 04, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
I suspect that Kernan was unaware of the lack of depth of talent in Galway at the moment. That + the travelling may have been a big factor in this. Once Galway had the injuries they endured this year, they just do not have the replacements. Personally, I would liked to have seen him give it one more year. We werent a million miles away from an AI Q/F this year (Bradshaws mistake for the goal was all that was really in it because I firmly believe this Galway team would have beaten Ros). And as people say, there isnt much point just doing it for 1 year. He wouldnt have known much about the fring e players before this year. Maybe the travelling just got too much for him...

A whole review needs to be done of Galway football; Similiar to what is planned in Mayo

Exactly; I'd say Joe overestimated the quality available to him. He was always the right man at the wrong time. His backroom team (one of them anyway) was wrong too. Whoever gets the job will have to spend a few years treading water until better quality starts to come through. As with Kernan, Kevin Walsh would be the right man in a few years time - I'd imagine he'll give another year to Sligo anyway. Gerry Fahy has been mentioned but his last stint being involved didn't exactly end too well. Frank Morris has a good knowledge and football brain but would IMHO be too much Ajax-Corofin - empowering identikit players who're good but no better.

I have a feeling also that the top table may move towards changing the structure of the (Senior) c'ship. Secretary Seamus O'Grady has said on a couple of occasions that, in effect, clubs concentrate more on the league these days - seeking promotion, avoiding relegation etc. - to the detriment of the c'ship. Perhaps a league / mini-group - based c'ship will be introduced next year?
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Rossfan on August 04, 2010, 11:43:10 AM
I suspect he is jumping before being pushed  ;)
So with Fergal "considering the situation", Messiah gone, JK gone and KW to replace him little Laythrum could well be the only Connacht County to retain it's 2010 manager.  ::)
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
I'll be suprised if Kevin Walsh stays on. With his reputation intact, he'd be a wise man to run now imo. Sligo will struggle in 2011.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Mano on August 04, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Sligo will struggle in 2011.
What a load of rubbish. Why do you say that? Theres no in between with you. If we get replacement for full back and the return of Egan, McGovern, McNamara and elevate Maye to corner forward we should be challenging for Connaught again next season.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: Mano on August 04, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Sligo will struggle in 2011.
What a load of rubbish. Why do you say that? Theres no in between with you. If we get replacement for full back and the return of Egan, McGovern, McNamara and elevate Maye to corner forward we should be challenging for Connaught again next season.

One thing the Connacht final thought me is we have no spine, Brehony, ALL OUR MIDFIELDERS, CHB and FB are in a complete mess and unreliable. We wil go into next yr relying on mullen, taylor and gilmartin and i dont think we can rely on them. As far as im concerned we are wasting our time with Greene in goals aswell.  Forget about McNamara. Even Cawley and Davey as wing backs strengths arent good one on one defending, both like to go forward to mask this, but both are brilliant readers of the game defensively, but when there men run at them we are in trouble. Even Harrison isnt a world beater defensively, harrsion gave away alot of frees in the final,  The only man i have 100% faith in is Ross Donovan in our Defence. The others worry me as there weaknesses can be exploited.

None of us know if Conor Davey, Mark Quinn, Brian Kennedy will deliver in Championship.

You talk of Maye, is he ready for Senior football, he looked great for the juniors but lacks pace, he has everything else and more. Still it is no certainty. We have no FF either, well do you think Marren is the answer, i dont. Sweeney is our best bet but grossly inconsistent.

Is Egan Returning for definite? McGovern I rate, Johnny Martyn I rate, huge boost to the hb line if they come back.

Now remember all of the above has to be tried and tested against the heavyweights of Div2. And ideally we dont want to peak until june/july. I dont want us going for the fitness advantage early on either as it will comeback to bite in summer when i'll be told again the tank is empty.

I personally have a fair idea who our best chance is in every position so i wouldnt be wasting much time, but i wouldnt really care if we win or not in the league, it would all be about getting the spine sorted for CSFC. As far as im concerned you can throw the div3 trophy in the bin, all that matters is the Nestor.

I cant see Walsh doing the above so i expect us to flatter to deceive in the NFL and have no spine for CSFC.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 01:33:09 PM
Quote from: mouview on August 04, 2010, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: mckieran on August 04, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
I suspect that Kernan was unaware of the lack of depth of talent in Galway at the moment. That + the travelling may have been a big factor in this. Once Galway had the injuries they endured this year, they just do not have the replacements. Personally, I would liked to have seen him give it one more year. We werent a million miles away from an AI Q/F this year (Bradshaws mistake for the goal was all that was really in it because I firmly believe this Galway team would have beaten Ros). And as people say, there isnt much point just doing it for 1 year. He wouldnt have known much about the fring e players before this year. Maybe the travelling just got too much for him...

A whole review needs to be done of Galway football; Similiar to what is planned in Mayo
oExactly; I'd say Joe overestimated the quality available to him. He was always the right man at the wrong time. His backroom team (one of them anyway) was wrong too. Whoever gets the job will have to spend a few years treading water until better quality starts to come through. As with Kernan, Kevin Walsh would be the right man in a few years time - I'd imagine he'll give another year to Sligo anyway. Gerry Fahy has been mentioned but his last stint being involved didn't exactly end too well. Frank Morris has a good knowledge and football brain but would IMHO be too much Ajax-Corofin - empowering identikit players who're good but no better.

I have a feeling also that the top table may move towards changing the structure of the (Senior) c'ship. Secretary Seamus O'Grady has said on a couple of occasions that, in effect, clubs concentrate more on the league these days - seeking promotion, avoiding relegation etc. - to the detriment of the c'ship. Perhaps a league / mini-group - based c'ship will be introduced next year?
Your suggestions re club structures certainly make sense. The self preservation situation for most senior clubs in Galway regarding the league has lowered the standard of the championship. Galway have some very talented players and some very limited players in their county panel. A provincial title and progress ti the last 4 should have been realistic goals for this season and next. You would imagine Laim Sammon would have been the man to retain to achieve that. Kiernan was a silver bullet solution and once he was appointed with the fanfare last year there was always going to be higher but unrealistic expactations. That being said they disimproved greatly under him and thats unforgiveable. I'm amazed at Galway posters saying they'd be happy for him to stay on. He cost the county a fortune and delivered nothing. His legacy with Armagh should be still intact and respected but for Kiernan himself and Galway in general he made the right decision in resigning. Those who appointed him should also be looking at themselves.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 01:37:13 PM
Quote from: Mano on August 04, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Sligo will struggle in 2011.
What a load of rubbish. Why do you say that? Theres no in between with you. If we get replacement for full back and the return of Egan, McGovern, McNamara and elevate Maye to corner forward we should be challenging for Connaught again next season.
It would be a disaster for Sligo if Kevin left now. That being said with the effort they put in this year only to finish so poorly it may be hard to get lads to sign up to the same level of focus next season. Walsh knows Galway football inside out. He has to know they are at an all time low but with injured players returning etc they will not be as bad in 2011. Therefore it must be a huge temptation for him if offered.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
Galway have to start bringing through new young players over the next few years so ideally you would want a local who knows the scene inside and out in charge and leave him in place for a decent spell to develop these young lads a la O'Donnell in Roscommon. While the last few years at underage have been barren enough bar the 2007 All-Ireland minor winners a lot of this IMO has been down to shoddy youth development and selection and/or utterly incompetent jobs for the boys management. There are still good individual youngsters there. Things seem to be improving a bit with this year's minors reaching an All-Ireland semi-final while next year's minors are generally expected to be better than this year's.

You would think this all points to Kevin Walsh but I'm not sure he sees eye to eye over some issues with certain people in the county board so I don't think he's a cert to take over just yet. I would expect Micko will have his hat firmly in the ring. Has long stated his admiration for Galway football having had so many battles with them during his career both as player and coach. Micko's style would probably suit the Galway temperament but again he would be more of the quick fix varity rather than someone in there to build a team from the ground up slowly.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on August 04, 2010, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 10:29:27 AM
cross wouldnt have the money for him now and i think they are happy with new managers from recent teams. monaghan that would be a surprise but not with grimley biggest fallout ever.

  What was that about?
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
Galway have to start bringing through new young players over the next few years so ideally you would want a local who knows the scene inside and out in charge and leave him in place for a decent spell to develop these young lads a la O'Donnell in Roscommon. While the last few years at underage have been barren enough bar the 2007 All-Ireland minor winners a lot of this IMO has been down to shoddy youth development and selection and/or utterly incompetent jobs for the boys management. There are still good individual youngsters there. Things seem to be improving a bit with this year's minors reaching an All-Ireland semi-final while next year's minors are generally expected to be better than this year's.

You would think this all points to Kevin Walsh but I'm not sure he sees eye to eye over some issues with certain people in the county board so I don't think he's a cert to take over just yet. I would expect Micko will have his hat firmly in the ring. Has long stated his admiration for Galway football having had so many battles with them during his career both as player and coach. Micko's style would probably suit the Galway temperament but again he would be more of the quick fix varity rather than someone in there to build a team from the ground up slowly.
Surely Micko is not a serious contender GBB? Frying pan to fire.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
Galway have to start bringing through new young players over the next few years so ideally you would want a local who knows the scene inside and out in charge and leave him in place for a decent spell to develop these young lads a la O'Donnell in Roscommon. While the last few years at underage have been barren enough bar the 2007 All-Ireland minor winners a lot of this IMO has been down to shoddy youth development and selection and/or utterly incompetent jobs for the boys management. There are still good individual youngsters there. Things seem to be improving a bit with this year's minors reaching an All-Ireland semi-final while next year's minors are generally expected to be better than this year's.

You would think this all points to Kevin Walsh but I'm not sure he sees eye to eye over some issues with certain people in the county board so I don't think he's a cert to take over just yet. I would expect Micko will have his hat firmly in the ring. Has long stated his admiration for Galway football having had so many battles with them during his career both as player and coach. Micko's style would probably suit the Galway temperament but again he would be more of the quick fix varity rather than someone in there to build a team from the ground up slowly.
Surely Micko is not a serious contender GBB? Frying pan to fire.

Who knows? Personally I would go the other route.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
Galway have to start bringing through new young players over the next few years so ideally you would want a local who knows the scene inside and out in charge and leave him in place for a decent spell to develop these young lads a la O'Donnell in Roscommon. While the last few years at underage have been barren enough bar the 2007 All-Ireland minor winners a lot of this IMO has been down to shoddy youth development and selection and/or utterly incompetent jobs for the boys management. There are still good individual youngsters there. Things seem to be improving a bit with this year's minors reaching an All-Ireland semi-final while next year's minors are generally expected to be better than this year's.

You would think this all points to Kevin Walsh but I'm not sure he sees eye to eye over some issues with certain people in the county board so I don't think he's a cert to take over just yet. I would expect Micko will have his hat firmly in the ring. Has long stated his admiration for Galway football having had so many battles with them during his career both as player and coach. Micko's style would probably suit the Galway temperament but again he would be more of the quick fix varity rather than someone in there to build a team from the ground up slowly.
Surely Micko is not a serious contender GBB? Frying pan to fire.

Who knows? Personally I would go the other route.
Madness not to metion more expense.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 04, 2010, 03:22:26 PM
Surprised Kernan is going to be honest but I guess all the recent rumblings fron certain parts of the county have had their desired effect after all.  I very much doubt we will be looking outside the county for the next manager as the most recent one has been a very expensive exercise and I cannot see there being much support for such a move again.  Micko would be a definite no in my book.  As GBB has already stated, there is a need to blood a lot of new players and someone local who knows the scene inside out would be best placed to achieve this IMO also. 
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 04, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 10:29:27 AM
cross wouldnt have the money for him now and i think they are happy with new managers from recent teams. monaghan that would be a surprise but not with grimley biggest fallout ever.

As far as I'm aware Cross have never paid for the services of their club managers.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
I think Tony mac and Gareth are doing a fine and dandy job as it is in Cross, the club doesn't need to outside managers as there is plenty of quality inside the club.  Disappointed for Joe that he was left in this position as he is wholehearted in whatever he does but if he doesn't have the backing of the Board for whatever reason then he is better off away from it.  It looks to me like a sign of the financial times and the payment of managers will be a more contested matter over the next few years as counties tighten up.  Galway seem from the outside anyway lacking in new talent on the county panel. Joe possibly did underestimate the gravity of the building work that was required.  Anyway, best of luck to Joe, I don't reckon he'll look at anything too far away from home for a while, maybe the Meath job if O'Brien moved on.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Mano on August 04, 2010, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: Mano on August 04, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Sligo will struggle in 2011.
What a load of rubbish. Why do you say that? Theres no in between with you. If we get replacement for full back and the return of Egan, McGovern, McNamara and elevate Maye to corner forward we should be challenging for Connaught again next season.

One thing the Connacht final thought me is we have no spine, Brehony, ALL OUR MIDFIELDERS, CHB and FB are in a complete mess and unreliable. We wil go into next yr relying on mullen, taylor and gilmartin and i dont think we can rely on them. As far as im concerned we are wasting our time with Greene in goals aswell.  Forget about McNamara. Even Cawley and Davey as wing backs strengths arent good one on one defending, both like to go forward to mask this, but both are brilliant readers of the game defensively, but when there men run at them we are in trouble. Even Harrison isnt a world beater defensively, harrsion gave away alot of frees in the final,  The only man i have 100% faith in is Ross Donovan in our Defence. The others worry me as there weaknesses can be exploited.

None of us know if Conor Davey, Mark Quinn, Brian Kennedy will deliver in Championship.

You talk of Maye, is he ready for Senior football, he looked great for the juniors but lacks pace, he has everything else and more. Still it is no certainty. We have no FF either, well do you think Marren is the answer, i dont. Sweeney is our best bet but grossly inconsistent.

Is Egan Returning for definite? McGovern I rate, Johnny Martyn I rate, huge boost to the hb line if they come back.

Now remember all of the above has to be tried and tested against the heavyweights of Div2. And ideally we dont want to peak until june/july. I dont want us going for the fitness advantage early on either as it will comeback to bite in summer when i'll be told again the tank is empty.

I personally have a fair idea who our best chance is in every position so i wouldnt be wasting much time, but i wouldnt really care if we win or not in the league, it would all be about getting the spine sorted for CSFC. As far as im concerned you can throw the div3 trophy in the bin, all that matters is the Nestor.

I cant see Walsh doing the above so i expect us to flatter to deceive in the NFL and have no spine for CSFC.
They didn't become bad players after 1 poor performance
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 04, 2010, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
I think Tony mac and Gareth are doing a fine and dandy job as it is in Cross, the club doesn't need to outside managers as there is plenty of quality inside the club.  Disappointed for Joe that he was left in this position as he is wholehearted in whatever he does but if he doesn't have the backing of the Board for whatever reason then he is better off away from it.  It looks to me like a sign of the financial times and the payment of managers will be a more contested matter over the next few years as counties tighten up.  Galway seem from the outside anyway lacking in new talent on the county panel. Joe possibly did underestimate the gravity of the building work that was required.  Anyway, best of luck to Joe, I don't reckon he'll look at anything too far away from home for a while, maybe the Meath job if O'Brien moved on.
BCB, i know before the Galway job,Joe wouldnt take an Ulster job because he didnt want to coach against his sons.
Do you reckon,he would be interested in the Monaghan or indeed Cavan job? (Im asking you as you would know Joe,and may have some juicy information  ;D )
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2010, 04:36:23 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 04, 2010, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
I think Tony mac and Gareth are doing a fine and dandy job as it is in Cross, the club doesn't need to outside managers as there is plenty of quality inside the club.  Disappointed for Joe that he was left in this position as he is wholehearted in whatever he does but if he doesn't have the backing of the Board for whatever reason then he is better off away from it.  It looks to me like a sign of the financial times and the payment of managers will be a more contested matter over the next few years as counties tighten up.  Galway seem from the outside anyway lacking in new talent on the county panel. Joe possibly did underestimate the gravity of the building work that was required.  Anyway, best of luck to Joe, I don't reckon he'll look at anything too far away from home for a while, maybe the Meath job if O'Brien moved on.
BCB, i know before the Galway job,Joe wouldnt take an Ulster job because he didnt want to coach against his sons.
Do you reckon,he would be interested in the Monaghan or indeed Cavan job? (Im asking you as you would know Joe,and may have some juicy information  ;D )

No juicy information, I know as much as you do about the whole thing.  I would guess that the Monaghan job is a non runner if Grimley is still there,  Cavan job...I don't think he would be interested.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross4life on August 04, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: Mano on August 04, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Sligo will struggle in 2011.
What a load of rubbish. Why do you say that? Theres no in between with you. If we get replacement for full back and the return of Egan, McGovern, McNamara and elevate Maye to corner forward we should be challenging for Connaught again next season.

One thing the Connacht final thought me is we have no spine, Brehony, ALL OUR MIDFIELDERS, CHB and FB are in a complete mess and unreliable. We wil go into next yr relying on mullen, taylor and gilmartin and i dont think we can rely on them. As far as im concerned we are wasting our time with Greene in goals aswell.  Forget about McNamara. Even Cawley and Davey as wing backs strengths arent good one on one defending, both like to go forward to mask this, but both are brilliant readers of the game defensively, but when there men run at them we are in trouble. Even Harrison isnt a world beater defensively, harrsion gave away alot of frees in the final,  The only man i have 100% faith in is Ross Donovan in our Defence. The others worry me as there weaknesses can be exploited.

None of us know if Conor Davey, Mark Quinn, Brian Kennedy will deliver in Championship.

You talk of Maye, is he ready for Senior football, he looked great for the juniors but lacks pace, he has everything else and more. Still it is no certainty. We have no FF either, well do you think Marren is the answer, i dont. Sweeney is our best bet but grossly inconsistent.

Is Egan Returning for definite? McGovern I rate, Johnny Martyn I rate, huge boost to the hb line if they come back.

Now remember all of the above has to be tried and tested against the heavyweights of Div2. And ideally we dont want to peak until june/july. I dont want us going for the fitness advantage early on either as it will comeback to bite in summer when i'll be told again the tank is empty.

I personally have a fair idea who our best chance is in every position so i wouldnt be wasting much time, but i wouldnt really care if we win or not in the league, it would all be about getting the spine sorted for CSFC. As far as im concerned you can throw the div3 trophy in the bin, all that matters is the Nestor.

I cant see Walsh doing the above so i expect us to flatter to deceive in the NFL and have no spine for CSFC.

Have to agree with mano "Theres no in between with you" before the Connacht final you came onto the Stolensheep forum talking about no weakness best since the 70s Sligo team, now it's all doom & gloom

football can change so much in a year, this time last year Down were getting knocked out of the championship by Wicklow & Kerry were giving Dublin a hammering but look at those team's now!

Sligo player's & management have put in a lot of good work over the last few year's now it's time for them to regroup & not let the hard work go to waste, doing well in Div 2 will be your first target & i wouldn't be surprised if Sligo win Nestor cup next year

Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: mckieran on August 04, 2010, 06:32:15 PM
QuoteBCB, i know before the Galway job,Joe wouldnt take an Ulster job because he didnt want to coach against his sons.

But Galway could also meet Armagh, especially given their recent form. A backdoor meeting would be entirely possible.  ???

I think the reason that a lot of Galway lads are giving Kernan the benefit of the doubt is that we realise just how many injuries he had to cope with. It wasnt just the likes of M.Meehan. You had other lesser well known players like Damien Burke & Diarmuid Blake who struggled badly with injury all year.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 04, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: Mano on August 04, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 04, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Sligo will struggle in 2011.
What a load of rubbish. Why do you say that? Theres no in between with you. If we get replacement for full back and the return of Egan, McGovern, McNamara and elevate Maye to corner forward we should be challenging for Connaught again next season.

One thing the Connacht final thought me is we have no spine, Brehony, ALL OUR MIDFIELDERS, CHB and FB are in a complete mess and unreliable. We wil go into next yr relying on mullen, taylor and gilmartin and i dont think we can rely on them. As far as im concerned we are wasting our time with Greene in goals aswell.  Forget about McNamara. Even Cawley and Davey as wing backs strengths arent good one on one defending, both like to go forward to mask this, but both are brilliant readers of the game defensively, but when there men run at them we are in trouble. Even Harrison isnt a world beater defensively, harrsion gave away alot of frees in the final,  The only man i have 100% faith in is Ross Donovan in our Defence. The others worry me as there weaknesses can be exploited.

None of us know if Conor Davey, Mark Quinn, Brian Kennedy will deliver in Championship.

You talk of Maye, is he ready for Senior football, he looked great for the juniors but lacks pace, he has everything else and more. Still it is no certainty. We have no FF either, well do you think Marren is the answer, i dont. Sweeney is our best bet but grossly inconsistent.

Is Egan Returning for definite? McGovern I rate, Johnny Martyn I rate, huge boost to the hb line if they come back.

Now remember all of the above has to be tried and tested against the heavyweights of Div2. And ideally we dont want to peak until june/july. I dont want us going for the fitness advantage early on either as it will comeback to bite in summer when i'll be told again the tank is empty.

I personally have a fair idea who our best chance is in every position so i wouldnt be wasting much time, but i wouldnt really care if we win or not in the league, it would all be about getting the spine sorted for CSFC. As far as im concerned you can throw the div3 trophy in the bin, all that matters is the Nestor.

I cant see Walsh doing the above so i expect us to flatter to deceive in the NFL and have no spine for CSFC.

Have to agree with mano "Theres no in between with you" before the Connacht final you came onto the Stolensheep forum talking about no weakness best since the 70s Sligo team, now it's all doom & gloom

football can change so much in a year, this time last year Down were getting knocked out of the championship by Wicklow & Kerry were giving Dublin a hammering but look at those team's now!

Sligo player's & management have put in a lot of good work over the last few year's now it's time for them to regroup & not let the hard work go to waste, doing well in Div 2 will be your first target & i wouldn't be surprised if Sligo win Nestor cup next year
You either win a trophy or you dont. If thats what your getting at there is no in between with me and i make no apologies for it. Nobody can turn around and say to me its been succesful yr. Wheres the inbetween this yr so?
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross4life on August 04, 2010, 07:15:53 PM
"You either win a trophy or you dont" you sound more like a Kerry fan than a Sligo fan, success is the progress you guys have made since 1997, the right attitude in the years to come will bring more success like 2007
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: thewobbler on August 04, 2010, 07:52:56 PM
While it may have been madness to pay a sackful of money for a man from halfway across the country in the first place, it's complete fookin madness to then tell him how to do his job.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: upmonaghansayswe on August 04, 2010, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

You understood the TG 4 news !!  Well done sir.. Something like

"ta an county board ag rith na foireann selection agus ni raibh an freedom ata se ag lorg aige"
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross matt on August 04, 2010, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
Really surprised to hear that. Thought he was a chairman's appointment and Kiernan never came across as the type to put up with interference.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: demusicman on August 04, 2010, 09:02:27 PM
I wonder would he come to Meath this coming season if there was a vacancy :P
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 04, 2010, 09:42:51 PM
Joe for Cavan  ;D

I think i read on-line today your man O'Brien is stayin on with Meath
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: doohersarmy on August 04, 2010, 10:50:02 PM
not a big surprise, should have done a lot better with a v good armagh team. 1 A I, is a poor return. And anyone who takes k mcgeeney off with 10 mins to go in a all ireland semi when the game is in the balance, should never have been let near a team again. although as a tyrone man i was happy that he did.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Orangemac on August 04, 2010, 11:10:28 PM
Thanks for reminding us of 2005 Doohersarmy. Still feel sick thinking of it, that was the one that got away for us.

Martin Carney on Newstalk this evening, pulling no punches about the state of Galway football.

Basically he said they are perceived as being a big name when they have done nothing since 2001 and that Joe was under the illusion that there were better players available.

Also compared the situation to Maradona that the Galway co board were insisting on having say on backroom team and that this was the final straw for Big Joe
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Applesisapples on August 05, 2010, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: doohersarmy on August 04, 2010, 10:50:02 PM
not a big surprise, should have done a lot better with a v good armagh team. 1 A I, is a poor return. And anyone who takes k mcgeeney off with 10 mins to go in a all ireland semi when the game is in the balance, should never have been let near a team again. although as a tyrone man i was happy that he did.
Lotta truth there.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: lawnseed on August 05, 2010, 10:22:56 PM
hes had another offer.... its obvious. put it another way he won,t be poking at a hole theres no rat in
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Barney on August 17, 2010, 08:07:09 AM
Kevin Walsh staying in Sligo. Where to now for Galway?
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ross matt on August 17, 2010, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: Barney on August 17, 2010, 08:07:09 AM
Kevin Walsh staying in Sligo. Where to now for Galway?
Surely Talty is now the main contender?
Former Galway player. Very experienced coach.
Unless the distance is a factor but the new motorway kinda rules that out....
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: seafoid on August 17, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

an bhfuil aon gaeilge ag Joe Ramhar?  Uirchill an Chreagain , location for one of the greatest poems in the Irish language is somewhere in the vicinity  of Cross. 
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: JMohan on August 17, 2010, 12:53:55 PM
Joe Ramhar!!!
;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Galways plans stimied now!!!
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Duine Eile on August 17, 2010, 05:11:19 PM
The names being mentioned locally include Liam Kerins, Pat Fallon, Alan Mulholland, Brian Talty and Pete Warren. Whoever gets it they're going to have a hell of a job on their hands.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2010, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 17, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

an bhfuil aon gaeilge ag Joe Ramhar?  Uirchill an Chreagain , location for one of the greatest poems in the Irish language is somewhere in the vicinity  of Cross. 

Ag Úirchill an Chreagáin sea chodail mé aréir faoi bhrón
'S le héirí na maidne tháinig ainnir fá mo dhéin le póig
Bhí gríosghrua ghartha aici agus loinnir ina céibh mar ór
'S gurbh é íocshláinte an domhain bheith ag amharc ar an ríoghain óir

2 mile from Cross in my home village of Creggan.  Wonderful place to go for a dander and look at the historical graves and manys the meander I had round the church and over by the Lawns, a few handy wee spots too for the auld teenage court :-*  A former poster on here would have a teuous claim to being a direct descendant of the great Art McCooey, or so his da told me ;)
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: seafoid on August 18, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2010, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 17, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

an bhfuil aon gaeilge ag Joe Ramhar?  Uirchill an Chreagain , location for one of the greatest poems in the Irish language is somewhere in the vicinity  of Cross. 

Ag Úirchill an Chreagáin sea chodail mé aréir faoi bhrón
'S le héirí na maidne tháinig ainnir fá mo dhéin le póig
Bhí gríosghrua ghartha aici agus loinnir ina céibh mar ór
'S gurbh é íocshláinte an domhain bheith ag amharc ar an ríoghain óir

2 mile from Cross in my home village of Creggan.  Wonderful place to go for a dander and look at the historical graves and manys the meander I had round the church and over by the Lawns, a few handy wee spots too for the auld teenage court :-*  A former poster on here would have a teuous claim to being a direct descendant of the great Art McCooey, or so his da told me ;)

When did Irish die out in that neck of the woods? I remember reading somewhere that there were still pockets of Irish in the north around the time of partition. 
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2010, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 18, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2010, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 17, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Was on TG4 there that Kernan is saying that the Galway county board were interfering with his running and even the selection of the team and that he wasn't given the freedom he was expecting.

True or not I don't know but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

an bhfuil aon gaeilge ag Joe Ramhar?  Uirchill an Chreagain , location for one of the greatest poems in the Irish language is somewhere in the vicinity  of Cross. 

Ag Úirchill an Chreagáin sea chodail mé aréir faoi bhrón
‘S le héirí na maidne tháinig ainnir fá mo dhéin le póig
Bhí gríosghrua ghartha aici agus loinnir ina céibh mar ór
‘S gurbh é íocshláinte an domhain bheith ag amharc ar an ríoghain óir

2 mile from Cross in my home village of Creggan.  Wonderful place to go for a dander and look at the historical graves and manys the meander I had round the church and over by the Lawns, a few handy wee spots too for the auld teenage court :-*  A former poster on here would have a teuous claim to being a direct descendant of the great Art McCooey, or so his da told me ;)

When did Irish die out in that neck of the woods? I remember reading somewhere that there were still pockets of Irish in the north around the time of partition. 

I wouldn't know when it would havew died out as a day to day language, but there is a very strong movement with a lot of people having good conversational levels.   
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 18, 2010, 02:10:01 PM
QuoteFormer Limerick and Laois football manager Liam Kearns has emerged as the new favourite to succeed Joe Kernan in the Galway hot-seat.

It follows the decision by Kevin Walsh to remain with Sligo for another two years earlier this week. Local bookmakers Mulhollands, which is the family business of former Galway footballer and 2007 All-Ireland minor winning manager Alan Mulholland, has installed Kearns as the 2/1 favourite to fill the vacancy in the West.

The Tralee native, who led Limerick and Laois to provincial final appearances in the past decade, could also be interested in the Kerry job if Jack O'Connor decides to step down.

Another possible candidate is former Westmeath boss Tomas O Flatharta, who was beaten by Kernan for the position this time last year.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: ExiledGael on August 26, 2010, 10:11:39 PM
Interim examiner appointed at Aer Arann
Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:29
An interim examiner has been appointed to Aer Arann by the High Court.

The company said a loss of €6m sustained during the volcanic ash crisis, as well as losses of €6m in 2008 and 2009, have forced it to seek examinership.

Michael McAteer of Grant Thornton has been given the task of ensuring the implementation of a restructuring plan.

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The case will be heard in full in the High Court on 8 September by Mrs Justice Maureen Clarke.

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Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Zapatista on August 27, 2010, 07:44:30 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 26, 2010, 10:11:39 PM
Interim examiner appointed at Aer Arann


Was just about to post that. Sad all the same. Hopefully they can bounce back.
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: Barney on August 27, 2010, 08:30:21 AM
I reckon there will be more pages of posts on the Mayo Manager thread than posts on the Galway Manager thread by the time we have appointments!
Title: Re: Joe Kernan Steps down
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2010, 09:18:04 AM
Kevin Walsh must have decided there's nothing coming through for Galway for the next 2 years. What happened to the last 2 minor teams that won the all-Ireland ? It's a bit like the situation in the UK with the new government,. Galway fans have to lower their expectations for a while.

That's an impossible job over in Mayo.