http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/rovers-ring-of-confidence-can-test-juve-super-stars-2275748.html
The local Thomas Davis GAA club, who took their grievances to the High Court, weakened their hand by expressing the concern that the youth of Tallaght would be 'restricted to a diet of association football'.
Right now, with another European footballing giant on their doorstep, the diet is tasting pretty damn good.
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Ouch!
No harm dublinfella, but that McDonnell fella is a completely anti GAA writer anyway. I'm not surprised he has a pop, but maybe he'd be better off having a pop at the FAI / League about the shambles their 'professional' clubs are in. Bohs are facing a firesale because they lost one game to TNS. They can't afford to pay their wages because they missed out. That's not a sustainable strategy. McDonnell has written some very disparaging comments about the GAA, bogball etc.
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 11:26:30 AM
No harm dublinfella, but that McDonnell fella is a completely anti GAA writer anyway. I'm not surprised he has a pop, but maybe he'd be better off having a pop at the FAI / League about the shambles their 'professional' clubs are in. Bohs are facing a firesale because they lost one game to TNS. They can't afford to pay their wages because they missed out. That's not a sustainable strategy. McDonnell has written some very disparaging comments about the GAA, bogball etc.
Exactly the type of stuff Dublinfella believes. Why even bother engaging with him AZ? This is someone who has been caught out on numerous occasions telling lies. He has absolutely zilch credibility.
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 11:26:30 AM
No harm dublinfella, but that McDonnell fella is a completely anti GAA writer anyway. I'm not surprised he has a pop, but maybe he'd be better off having a pop at the FAI / League about the shambles their 'professional' clubs are in. Bohs are facing a firesale because they lost one game to TNS. They can't afford to pay their wages because they missed out. That's not a sustainable strategy. McDonnell has written some very disparaging comments about the GAA, bogball etc.
Don't give a rashers about Bohs or the LoI.
Point I took from this is that TD's worst fears about being blown out of the water in terms of local interest have come true and then some. Full houses most weeks, kids all over the area in Rovers gear, players and their mascot in schools etc and on top of that games against Real Madrid and Juve and the associated hype.
So have Thomas Davis 'F*cked off and Died' then? Or are they still thriving as well? Or are you saying that the unfairness Thomas Davis complained about, whereby building a stadium in a locality that could only be used by the 'professional' soccer club has in fact led to their fears being realised?
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 11:34:46 AM
So have Thomas Davis 'F*cked off and Died' then? Or are they still thriving as well? Or are you saying that the unfairness Thomas Davis complained about, whereby building a stadium in a locality that could only be used by the 'professional' soccer club has in fact led to their fears being realised?
Are they thriving? They still haven't paid the legal bill as far as I know. Not much in terms of success on the pitch either.
I'm saying this was never about stadium access - they admitted as much. It was about trying to keep Rovers out of the area. They didn't want the 'diet' to be LoI games, so I can only imagine the dark mutterings when Juventus or Real Madrid hit town. How can they compete with that to attract kids?
The fact is that the association football clubs and people associated with it are filling the kids heads full of BS that they will make it to the EPL and have the money and the wags and all the fame. Then when they dont grow enough or dont progress skill wise they way they should have they are rejected and thrown on the pile of the 'could-have-beens'.
Its happening all over Ireland to their credit the GAA in small communities works with kids of allabilties and types and does not discriminate against them.
Yes the cream make it to the county teams and beyond but the guy who togs out also has a place just as important within the club.
Been a total bug bear of mine for years, dangling this carrot infront of loads of kids that they know will never make it to fulfill their own their own ends!
Quote from: NAG1 on July 29, 2010, 11:40:26 AM
The fact is that the association football clubs and people associated with it are filling the kids heads full of BS that they will make it to the EPL and have the money and the wags and all the fame. Then when they dont grow enough or dont progress skill wise they way they should have they are rejected and thrown on the pile of the 'could-have-beens'.
Its happening all over Ireland to their credit the GAA in small communities works with kids of allabilties and types and does not discriminate against them.
Yes the cream make it to the county teams and beyond but the guy who togs out also has a place just as important within the club.
Been a total bug bear of mine for years, dangling this carrot infront of loads of kids that they know will never make it to fulfill their own their own ends!
Nothing wrong with ambition, kids should play GAA with the dream of pulling on the county shirt in Croker.
So you are saying that Irish soccer clubs dump kids as soon as they realise that they aren't good enough to make it as professionals?
I suppose it would be a waste of time asking for an example or two?
Im not saying they should dump them dublinfella Im saying they DO dump them when they realsise they are good enough. ca think of numerous examples within my own area without having to think too hard.
Nothing wrong with ambition at all no my point.
My point is that they are dangling a carrot infront of them which is unrealistic to 99.99999999999999999% of them!
Quote from: dublinfella on July 29, 2010, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 11:34:46 AM
So have Thomas Davis 'F*cked off and Died' then? Or are they still thriving as well? Or are you saying that the unfairness Thomas Davis complained about, whereby building a stadium in a locality that could only be used by the 'professional' soccer club has in fact led to their fears being realised?
Are they thriving? They still haven't paid the legal bill as far as I know. Not much in terms of success on the pitch either.
I'm saying this was never about stadium access - they admitted as much. It was about trying to keep Rovers out of the area. They didn't want the 'diet' to be LoI games, so I can only imagine the dark mutterings when Juventus or Real Madrid hit town. How can they compete with that to attract kids?
I can't remember all the facts now, you are obviously more interested in it than I, but I thought one of the complaints was the stadium being provided for a professional football club should be fit for use by other clubs in the area, including Thomas Davis? And the fact that it wasn't meant that effectively SR were being given a completely unfair advantage. Are you saying that Shamrock Rovers' success (relative to Thomas Davis) since then, including this glamour tie against Juve, is actually proving that to be the case?
Nag1 -The "dumping" as you put it of young lads who aren't good enough is mostly confined to the "bigger" schoolboy clubs who see themselves as academies for the professional game. The vast majority of local clubs look after kids of all abilities. Unfortunately I've also seen GAA clubs do the same.
I was up in Tallaght twice in the last couple of weeks looking at Rovers. Enjoyable experience but there are still plenty of what I would call thugs around the place despite the noble efforts of the club. Still can never understand the venom and abuse thats hurled at players myself
QuoteThomas Davis were involved in a long running series of objections relating to the Tallaght Stadium. Thomas Davis initially objected to the original planning permission almost ten years ago. More recently, they sought to overturn a council decision that assigns a sports stadium under development in Tallaght with a playing surface unsuitable to the dimenesion of a senior GAA pitch. The minister for sport and SDCC have indicated that Junior GAA games will be accommodated in the current design as junior GAA games would not require an increased pitch size.[4] South Dublin County Council initially decided that the stadium would be multi-use containing a soccer sized pitch. This was reversed in January 2006 when SDCC sought to include a Senior GAA pitch also. The council reverted back to the original plans after they were informed by the Minister for Sport that he would not fund the stadium unless it was designated as soccer only (RTÉ, 2007). The intention of the council is that the League of Ireland soccer team, Shamrock Rovers would play in the new facility. The Rovers chairman stated on the 13th of March 2007, "But we're also amazed that a local GAA club - that already has superb, publicly-funded facilities in place - can begrudge us the opportunity to complete the club's move to the new stadium."[5].
In a High Court application to have the design of the Tallaght Stadium changed Thomas Davis argued that they would be placed "at a severe disadvantage in attracting the youth of Tallaght to our club, our sport and the GAA culture".[6]
This is from Wiki, the fountain of all knowledge, so the usual caveats apply. However this is as I remember it as well, that basically TD's argument about attracting youth was predicated on the fact that the stadium design precluded them from using it, ergo SR had an unfair competitive advantage in attracting the youth.
You seem to be saying they are right.
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 12:00:45 PM
This is from Wiki, the fountain of all knowledge, so the usual caveats apply. However this is as I remember it as well, that basically TD's argument about attracting youth was predicated on the fact that the stadium design precluded them from using it, ergo SR had an unfair competitive advantage in attracting the youth.
You seem to be saying they are right.
Of course the stadium design precluded them. Simple physics - a GAA pitch can't fit in a soccer ground. Where in the rules does it say that municipal sports facilites have to be multi sport? They knew this and cracked on anyway, delaying their own court case at every opportunity.
I'm saying that €1.25m in legal fees that TD are liable for could and should have been used for coaching etc and meet the challenge head on, rather than a sneaky and nasty court case to block. Not very sporting etc.
The 2 million lie is only a couple of posts away.
Folks, this chancer and liar is not to be taken seriously. Most here know that - just letting newcomers know.
Alright, you've shifted the ground here now. Do you accept that TD's complaint about the 'youth' was because the design of the new stadium precluded them, regardless of how logical that seems to you?
If so, I'll sign off here, because I have no intention of 10 pages discussing the case again. It's over, Rovers won the case. I also won't presume to speak for Thomas Davis' use of their own money, even though I have my own opinion on it.
Finally, it seems to me that all you are saying, and all that McDonnell is saying, is that what Thomas Davis were afraid of has come to pass. So they lost the case, but they were correct.
(I don't know if that is actually the case or not, but that is what you and McDonnell seem to be suggesting).
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 12:14:40 PM
Alright, you've shifted the ground here now. Do you accept that TD's complaint about the 'youth' was because the design of the new stadium precluded them, regardless of how logical that seems to you?
If so, I'll sign off here, because I have no intention of 10 pages discussing the case again. It's over, Rovers won the case. I also won't presume to speak for Thomas Davis' use of their own money, even though I have my own opinion on it.
Finally, it seems to me that all you are saying, and all that McDonnell is saying, is that what Thomas Davis were afraid of has come to pass. So they lost the case, but they were correct.
(I don't know if that is actually the case or not, but that is what you and McDonnell seem to be suggesting).
Im saying that there was never, and should never, a requirement for the state to make municipal facilities or state funded facilities multi sport.
I think TD were dead right to fear Rovers in the area, and the proof is in the pudding. My point is that its fundametally immoral and an abuse of the courts to go legal rather than compete with a rival sport. That money wasted on costs should have been used to try and improve their game to compete.
QuoteMy point is that its fundametally immoral and an abuse of the courts to go legal rather than compete with a rival sport.
Immoral? Get off the stage DF. I see you are still trying to avoid points that don't suit you. The objection many people on this site had with the whole issue was that SR (a professional organisation) were essentially given a stadium for free. If they had built the stadium themselves from their own funds then nobody could have any complaints but they didn't. I don't think the government should be giving stadiums to any professional sport teams, if for no other reason than if they build one for one team then why not for all their competitors. But what is done is done and the fact that you bring this up again suggests that you had an agenda all along which had nothing to do with concern for the GAA.
Anyway, I'm going to exit stage right at this stage because it's rehashed ground. I will reiterate my view of the initial post on the thread, which is what I was responding to in the first place, rather than the case itself and how moral or immoral it was.
McDonnell and yourself, dublinfella, seem to be glorying in the fact that Shamrock Rovers' game tonight is such a glamour tie, and that Thomas Davis cannot possibly compete with that.
I have said that from my recollection, and that blurb from Wiki, one of the central tenets of Davis' complaint was that in handing a stadium to a professional sports team in a rival code, and excluding Thomas Davis from using it, the authorities were handing an unfair competitive advantage to Shamrock Rovers, which would make it hard for Thomas Davis to attract youngsters because of the big glamourous attraction on the doorstep.
So, it seems to me that while Thomas Davis lost the case, and maybe were ill advised to bring it in the first place, their concerns about being placed at a disadvantage by the authorities in favour of a professional sports team were absolutely correct.
At least they appear 100% correct in their fear if I take at face value what you are saying about the popularity of Shamrock Rovers in Tallaght, and McDonnell's gloating about apples.
Quote from: dublinfella on July 29, 2010, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 11:34:46 AM
So have Thomas Davis 'F*cked off and Died' then? Or are they still thriving as well? Or are you saying that the unfairness Thomas Davis complained about, whereby building a stadium in a locality that could only be used by the 'professional' soccer club has in fact led to their fears being realised?
Are they thriving? They still haven't paid the legal bill as far as I know. Not much in terms of success on the pitch either.
I'm saying this was never about stadium access - they admitted as much. It was about trying to keep Rovers out of the area. They didn't want the 'diet' to be LoI games, so I can only imagine the dark mutterings when Juventus or Real Madrid hit town. How can they compete with that to attract kids?
This is the bit I'm contenting. Davis said that because they didn't have access to the stadium, Rovers had an unfair advantage, so despite your comment about it never being about stadium access, that is exactly what the grounds for their case was if I recall correctly.
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Dont worry about it lads .
I remember the anti GAA Brigade in the media were having a field day back in 1990 predicting the end of Gaelic Games and Soccer to sweep the Country and blah etc .
These cnuts are foaming at the mouth with jealousy at the ongoing success of the GAA and any bit of Soccer good news is glorified out of all proportion.
There will be 6,000 at the Tallaght game ,which according to some hacks will frighten Juventus.
F F S wise up.
As for dublinfella ....his Shamrock Spongers loyalties are fairly obvious for many a day. ;D
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
Anyway, I'm going to exit stage right at this stage because it's rehashed ground. I will reiterate my view of the initial post on the thread, which is what I was responding to in the first place, rather than the case itself and how moral or immoral it was.
McDonnell and yourself, dublinfella, seem to be glorying in the fact that Shamrock Rovers' game tonight is such a glamour tie, and that Thomas Davis cannot possibly compete with that.
I have said that from my recollection, and that blurb from Wiki, one of the central tenets of Davis' complaint was that in handing a stadium to a professional sports team in a rival code, and excluding Thomas Davis from using it, the authorities were handing an unfair competitive advantage to Shamrock Rovers, which would make it hard for Thomas Davis to attract youngsters because of the big glamourous attraction on the doorstep.
So, it seems to me that while Thomas Davis lost the case, and maybe were ill advised to bring it in the first place, their concerns about being placed at a disadvantage by the authorities in favour of a professional sports team were absolutely correct.
At least they appear 100% correct in their fear if I take at face value what you are saying about the popularity of Shamrock Rovers in Tallaght, and McDonnell's gloating about apples.
I'm saying they were right to react. But the manner in which they did it was low.
Quote from: dublinfella on July 29, 2010, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
Anyway, I'm going to exit stage right at this stage because it's rehashed ground. I will reiterate my view of the initial post on the thread, which is what I was responding to in the first place, rather than the case itself and how moral or immoral it was.
McDonnell and yourself, dublinfella, seem to be glorying in the fact that Shamrock Rovers' game tonight is such a glamour tie, and that Thomas Davis cannot possibly compete with that.
I have said that from my recollection, and that blurb from Wiki, one of the central tenets of Davis' complaint was that in handing a stadium to a professional sports team in a rival code, and excluding Thomas Davis from using it, the authorities were handing an unfair competitive advantage to Shamrock Rovers, which would make it hard for Thomas Davis to attract youngsters because of the big glamourous attraction on the doorstep.
So, it seems to me that while Thomas Davis lost the case, and maybe were ill advised to bring it in the first place, their concerns about being placed at a disadvantage by the authorities in favour of a professional sports team were absolutely correct.
At least they appear 100% correct in their fear if I take at face value what you are saying about the popularity of Shamrock Rovers in Tallaght, and McDonnell's gloating about apples.
I'm saying they were right to react. But the manner in which they did it was low.
I think that's progress :D Now if we can change the word 'low' to 'contentious' I think you'd probably be agreeing with at least half the people who posted on the matter :D
Anyhow, I'll leave it at that (really).
Quote from: dublinfella on July 29, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 29, 2010, 11:26:30 AM
No harm dublinfella, but that McDonnell fella is a completely anti GAA writer anyway. I'm not surprised he has a pop, but maybe he'd be better off having a pop at the FAI / League about the shambles their 'professional' clubs are in. Bohs are facing a firesale because they lost one game to TNS. They can't afford to pay their wages because they missed out. That's not a sustainable strategy. McDonnell has written some very disparaging comments about the GAA, bogball etc.
Don't give a rashers about Bohs or the LoI.
Point I took from this is that TD's worst fears about being blown out of the water in terms of local interest have come true and then some. Full houses most weeks, kids all over the area in Rovers gear, players and their mascot in schools etc and on top of that games against Real Madrid and Juve and the associated hype.
There are three clubs in close proximity, Ballyboden, St Annes and Thomas Davis. I can only speak for my own club, Boden, and they have coaching throughout the summer from Scoil Treasa where the coaches and indeed Ballyboden are in constant liason with the schools for Friday aftenoon training. Boden have not one but a number of Summer Camps that are completely booked out and St Annes are the same with kids from all parts of Tallaght attending. I am sure Thomas Davis are no different but in any case the work that is being done on the ground by the GAA is as good as it can get.
When Ronaldo appeared at Tallaght Stadium there was a bit of a stir too but soon all forgotton about. The game tonight will be yesterdays news when the Dubs take the field against Tyrone on Saturday evening. "There is food and work for all" was the heading in a paragraph of a book about a local titled man where I came from when he announced, back in the bad old days, to all and sundry that he needed workers to thin beet and pick potatoes and so it is in Tallaght, plenty of room for all the shamrock rovers and gaa men that there are in both codes if they are up to it.
Don't be minding that eejit in the Independent. Come on the Hoops, do Tallaght proud tonight.
Quote from: Bud Wiser on July 29, 2010, 02:25:06 PM
There are three clubs in close proximity, Ballyboden, St Annes and Thomas Davis. I can only speak for my own club, Boden, and they have coaching throughout the summer from Scoil Treasa where the coaches and indeed Ballyboden are in constant liason with the schools for Friday aftenoon training. Boden have not one but a number of Summer Camps that are completely booked out and St Annes are the same with kids from all parts of Tallaght attending. I am sure Thomas Davis are no different but in any case the work that is being done on the ground by the GAA is as good as it can get.
When Ronaldo appeared at Tallaght Stadium there was a bit of a stir too but soon all forgotton about. The game tonight will be yesterdays news when the Dubs take the field against Tyrone on Saturday evening. "There is food and work for all" was the heading in a paragraph of a book about a local titled man where I came from when he announced, back in the bad old days, to all and sundry that he needed workers to thin beet and pick potatoes and so it is in Tallaght, plenty of room for all the shamrock rovers and gaa men that there are in both codes if they are up to it.
Don't be minding that eejit in the Independent. Come on the Hoops, do Tallaght proud tonight.
I don't really think you can compare the (fantastic) work the Boden do as a megasuper club and TD. Different leagues. Are TD even doing a camp? Haven't heard or seen anything.
Your second last paragraph is exactly my point on the whole thing. Plenty of kids, plenty of them play multiple sports. meet the challenge head on with pride, not sneak off to the courts and play dirty.
Don't forget
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St Kevins/Killians (reforming their juvenile setup on the back of a successful NS nearby)
and not too far away
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GAA not too badly off out Dublin SW way imo.
I got given a ticket to this game about an hour ago so im gonna head along and see what this stadium and stuff is all about
Quote from: Tankie on July 29, 2010, 04:12:48 PM
I got given a ticket to this game about an hour ago so im gonna head along and see what this stadium and stuff is all about
Whaaat? And all those tens of thousands of diehards who krammed into Glenmalure Park week-in-week-out can't get tickets? You should be ashamed of yourself!
There was a day when the Housing Executive up north used to only give housing to Protestants, but there's no comparison here, ya know, a government body favouring one over the other.
Good luck to the soccer boys by the way, it's be nice to see the recently homeless; through no fault of their own of course, get truely back on their own two feet and not have to depend on the charity of others
I wonder will they pay an economic rent now that they're getting all this Euro money?
The words of the Bailey Brothers come to mind ;D
Quote from: deiseach on July 29, 2010, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: Tankie on July 29, 2010, 04:12:48 PM
I got given a ticket to this game about an hour ago so im gonna head along and see what this stadium and stuff is all about
Whaaat? And all those tens of thousands of diehards who krammed into Glenmalure Park week-in-week-out can't get tickets? You should be ashamed of yourself!
So long as Maureen O'Hara isn't left ticketless.
Quote from: dublinfella on July 29, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/rovers-ring-of-confidence-can-test-juve-super-stars-2275748.html
The local Thomas Davis GAA club, who took their grievances to the High Court, weakened their hand by expressing the concern that the youth of Tallaght would be 'restricted to a diet of association football'.
Right now, with another European footballing giant on their doorstep, the diet is tasting pretty damn good.
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Ouch!
tonight rovers play serie A - next week its back to serie Z
Ouch yourself!
id love to see rovers win btw
Two men and a dog at the next game then??
Here is something I have always wanted to know. I have lived in 4 different counties and have played both Football and Soccer in each. The majority of Soccer players were also GAA players. But within each soccer club there were always a couple that had this unreal hatred of the GAA. The game the stadiums the fact that the GAA could get more from the community than the soccer. Where I live now the GAA and soccer has a good relationship as they share a lotto but still there are chips on shoulders of a few. Never really got the same impression from the GAA side of things.
Looking at the pitch on d'telly tonight, there seems to me to be enough room between the soccer end-lines and the boundary walls for there to be enough room for a GAA pitch. There seems to be quite a bit of spare ground between the existing soccer touch-lines and the stand (on the far side, at any rate). Hmmm.
Quote from: dublinfella on July 29, 2010, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: Bud Wiser on July 29, 2010, 02:25:06 PM
There are three clubs in close proximity, Ballyboden, St Annes and Thomas Davis. I can only speak for my own club, Boden, and they have coaching throughout the summer from Scoil Treasa where the coaches and indeed Ballyboden are in constant liason with the schools for Friday aftenoon training. Boden have not one but a number of Summer Camps that are completely booked out and St Annes are the same with kids from all parts of Tallaght attending. I am sure Thomas Davis are no different but in any case the work that is being done on the ground by the GAA is as good as it can get.
When Ronaldo appeared at Tallaght Stadium there was a bit of a stir too but soon all forgotton about. The game tonight will be yesterdays news when the Dubs take the field against Tyrone on Saturday evening. "There is food and work for all" was the heading in a paragraph of a book about a local titled man where I came from when he announced, back in the bad old days, to all and sundry that he needed workers to thin beet and pick potatoes and so it is in Tallaght, plenty of room for all the shamrock rovers and gaa men that there are in both codes if they are up to it.
Don't be minding that eejit in the Independent. Come on the Hoops, do Tallaght proud tonight.
I don't really think you can compare the (fantastic) work the Boden do as a megasuper club and TD. Different leagues. Are TD even doing a camp? Haven't heard or seen anything.
Your second last paragraph is exactly my point on the whole thing. Plenty of kids, plenty of them play multiple sports. meet the challenge head on with pride, not sneak off to the courts and play dirty.
I don't understand why 'fantastic' is in brackets. If Thomas Davis wanted to be a, as you put it, mega super club like Boden they should have spent the Million and a half euro they spent on High Court Cases on development.
The land on both sides of their allweather pitch and all the rest of that land bank was bought by a builder last year and I'd say they could buy it back for buttons now only all their money is in some D4 barristers slush fund.
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Quote from: Bud Wiser on July 30, 2010, 10:00:20 AM
I don't understand why 'fantastic' is in brackets. If Thomas Davis wanted to be a, as you put it, mega super club like Boden they should have spent the Million and a half euro they spent on High Court Cases on development.
Exactly my point.
Watched the game on the box last night, fair play to Rovers, they were actually unlucky not to get a draw, but Juventus are a different class. Atmosphere seemed electric.
Quote from: dublinfella on July 30, 2010, 10:40:48 AM
Quote from: Bud Wiser on July 30, 2010, 10:00:20 AM
I don't understand why 'fantastic' is in brackets. If Thomas Davis wanted to be a, as you put it, mega super club like Boden they should have spent the Million and a half euro they spent on High Court Cases on development.
Exactly my point.
Watched the game on the box last night, fair play to Rovers, they were actually unlucky not to get a draw, but Juventus are a different class. Atmosphere seemed electric.
Watched it myself and they would have been very lucky to get a draw, sure they only had one decent chance the whole match (the fine move that a header only went just wide). The commentator summed it up well when he said Rovers team is valued at €30k, Juve at €115 million.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
Here is something I have always wanted to know. I have lived in 4 different counties and have played both Football and Soccer in each. The majority of Soccer players were also GAA players. But within each soccer club there were always a couple that had this unreal hatred of the GAA. The game the stadiums the fact that the GAA could get more from the community than the soccer. Where I live now the GAA and soccer has a good relationship as they share a lotto but still there are chips on shoulders of a few. Never really got the same impression from the GAA side of things.
i have found that to be very true, i have to say iinitally i was shocked that some irish people could have such an unreal hatred ( couldnt put it better) for everything the gaa did and stood for. i remember talking to a a guy one night and thinking to myself ian paisley would be a better friend to the gaa. i used to get upset by it now i just ignore them. dublinfella is a prime example