Poll
Question:
Are foreign sports the direct cause of all GAA problems
Option 1: No
votes: 14
Option 2: Yes
votes: 17
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
I hope you're taking the piss.
Teams from the Pale should not be allowed into the All Ireland.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 15, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
I hope you're taking the piss.
No i'm quite serious. The way i see an undesirable element who visited Croke park during the "Foreign sports" era liked what they saw and decided to come back and brought all this nonsense with them.
I'm glad to finally see a Bord na n-Og section on GaaBoard.
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
I'm glad to finally see a Bord na n-Og section on GaaBoard.
I'm really hoping for some serious debate. I hope it doesn't descend into farce. I really think foreign sports have corrupted the GAA. Soccer style chanting, booing and referee chasing now seems to be common place. In my humble opinion this has only got common place since the "Foreign sports" came into Croke Park.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
I'm glad to finally see a Bord na n-Og section on GaaBoard.
I'm really hoping for some serious debate. I hope it doesn't descend into farce. I really think foreign sports have corrupted the GAA. Soccer style chanting, booing and referee chasing now seems to be common place. In my humble opinion this has only got common place since the "Foreign sports" came into Croke Park.
You are foreign to our sports if you think these things started in 2007.
Well we didn't learn anything from the respect for referees in rugby
Quote from: The Konica on July 15, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Well we didn't learn anything from the respect for referees in rugby
I dont remember too much lynching of referees in either code.
Quote from: The Konica on July 15, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Well we didn't learn anything from the respect for referees in rugby
What Joe Sheridan did against Louth is a classic example of what we learned from Rugby. He dive towards the line. Muppet there are plenty of examples of the soccer crowd attacking referee's. Sure arent the louth ones all Dundalk and Drogheda fans.
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2010, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 15, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Well we didn't learn anything from the respect for referees in rugby
I dont remember too much lynching of referees in either code.
Referees getting abuse has been the norm for as long as I remember.
In fact they get it far worse in club games which makes your argument invalid.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
Wise up.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 15, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Well we didn't learn anything from the respect for referees in rugby
What Joe Sheridan did against Louth is a classic example of what we learned from Rugby. He dive towards the line. Muppet there are plenty of examples of the soccer crowd attacking referee's. Sure arent the louth ones all Dundalk and Drogheda fans.
You blamed the opening of Croke Park in 2007 to foreign games, not the existence of foreign games.
Can you at least stick to your own poor argument?
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It's all down to the recession. If people had house prices rising by 50% a year nobody would still be talking about Sunday's match on Thursday.
Quote from: seafoid on July 15, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
It's all down to the recession. If people had house prices rising by 50% a year nobody would still be talking about Sunday's match on Thursday.
Actually the property crash is down to the opening of Croker to foreign games. Soccer players own property and we never had a crash until they played in Croker, therefore that caused the crash.
Tune in next week to discover the cause of Global warning, El Nino and the collapse of the banking system.
This thread is a complete joke, I'm sorry. Now everyone knows I was no fan of the relaxing of Rule 42, but to say that as a result our games has been corrupting in events such as last Sunday... nope, sorry.
We have to bring back the ban! In order to stop people from watching these foreign sports...
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2010, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 15, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
It's all down to the recession. If people had house prices rising by 50% a year nobody would still be talking about Sunday's match on Thursday.
Actually the property crash is down to the opening of Croker to foreign games. Soccer players own property and we never had a crash until they played in Croker, therefore that caused the crash.
Tune in next week to discover the cause of Global warning, El Nino and the collapse of the banking system.
Thats an interesting theory and many thanks you are the only one who seems to be taking this seriously. Have the extra revenue that the IRFU and FAI made from bigger attendance led to them creating a property boom?
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2010, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 15, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
It's all down to the recession. If people had house prices rising by 50% a year nobody would still be talking about Sunday's match on Thursday.
Actually the property crash is down to the opening of Croker to foreign games. Soccer players own property and we never had a crash until they played in Croker, therefore that caused the crash.
Tune in next week to discover the cause of Global warning, El Nino and the collapse of the banking system.
Thats an interesting theory and many thanks you are the only one who seems to be taking this seriously. Have the extra revenue that the IRFU and FAI made from bigger attendance led to them creating a property boom?
It did initially. But the foreign games angle meant the USA, NATO and Israel put us on the Axis of Evil list and people couldn't sell property quick enough for some strange reason. In conclusion, no.
This discussion makes me almost wish Mayowestros were still in the Championship ;D :D
Quote from: armaghniac on July 15, 2010, 06:26:53 PM
Teams from the Pale should not be allowed into the All Ireland.
Counties from the Pale and without a Gaeltacht should not be allowed into the
All-Ireland.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2010, 09:05:26 PM
This discussion makes me almost wish Mayowestros were still in the Championship ;D :D
Makes me almost wish Roscommon wins the All-Ireland ;D
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2010, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 15, 2010, 06:26:53 PM
Teams from the Pale should not be allowed into the All Ireland.
Counties from the Pale and without a Gaeltacht should not be allowed into the
All-Ireland.
Unless their players are sent to the Gaeltacht every year for a month. Of course they can be sent off for speaking in English in Croker and for not wearing an Aran jumper before and after games (matches).
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2010, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 15, 2010, 06:26:53 PM
Teams from the Pale should not be allowed into the All Ireland.
Counties from the Pale and without a Gaeltacht should not be allowed into the
All-Ireland.
Kerry would still win all before and behind them in that case!
It used to be traditional to blame O'Neill for starting a tread like this. I see no reason to change that tradition.
Question: Are foreign sports the direct cause of all GAA problems
No 4 (33.3%)
Yes 8 (66.7%)
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Total Members Voted: 12
The results so far. I wish my more supporters would be more vocal about this issue.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
Don't see this going on in any other 'foreign' sports.....
www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48 (http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48)
Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 15, 2010, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
Don't see this going on in any other 'foreign' sports.....
http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48 (ftp://http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48)
I cant open the link. But a good man from the 6 counties knows all about the influences of the foreign sports. Jesus i'm bored.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 15, 2010, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
Don't see this going on in any other 'foreign' sports.....
http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48 (ftp://http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48)
I cant open the link. But a good man from the 6 counties knows all about the influences of the foreign sports. Jesus i'm bored.
Link fixed
BTW Native sports, foreign sports. You know what? ...they're just sports (not politics)
Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 15, 2010, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 15, 2010, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
Don't see this going on in any other 'foreign' sports.....
http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48 (ftp://http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48)
I cant open the link. But a good man from the 6 counties knows all about the influences of the foreign sports. Jesus i'm bored.
Link fixed
BTW Native sports, foreign sports. You know what? ...they're just sports (not politics)
or·eign [fawr-in, for-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; not native: foreign cars. I dont mean it in a political sense
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 15, 2010, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 15, 2010, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 15, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Stewards been attacked, Refs being attacked, Meath chanting on the hill in English accents. Has the opening up of Croke park to foreign sports caused all our problems?
Don't see this going on in any other 'foreign' sports.....
http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48 (ftp://http://www.quirke.ie/catalog/photolibrary_info.php?id=82665&first=48)
I cant open the link. But a good man from the 6 counties knows all about the influences of the foreign sports. Jesus i'm bored.
Link fixed
BTW Native sports, foreign sports. You know what? ...they're just sports (not politics)
or·eign [fawr-in, for-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; not native: foreign cars. I dont mean it in a political sense
I hear you but back to the topic. I disagree that non-native sport has influenced our current issues. Rather I think it is a sad reflection of the way Irish society has changed. People are no longer bothered by the consequences of anti-social behaviour. There is little or no respect for authority and as we read in our local papers each week the defence of 'I had had a few pints and I'm really a great guy' is deemed an acceptable explanation for assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Quote from: Zapatista on July 16, 2010, 09:00:08 AM
I blame Ryanair. All this cheap travel to watch the premiership is the problem. When I see the selling of hot-dogs in croker I think I might aswell be in a different country too. Whatever happened to ham sandwhiches in the boot?
He posted on page 1 of the thread so he was ok a short while ago!
Quote from: Zapatista on July 16, 2010, 09:00:08 AM
I blame Ryanair. All this cheap travel to watch the premiership is the problem. When I see the selling of hot-dogs in croker I think I might aswell be in a different country too. Whatever happened to ham sandwhiches in the boot?
You are correct and O'Leary is from Westmeath, so in conclusion it is Meath's fault again.
A hang sangwidge out of the boot would make an improvement to the "food" served on Ryanair.
Talk of sangwidges and the like brings me back to a Dub "parking attendant" off the NCR in the 80s who claimed he once played for WBA and would take £2 to mind the car while the culchies went to the gah but was nowhere to be seen after the match.
Jesus, the 1980s were like a different country.
woooooooooooooooooooorst thread ever.
chanting and all that is as old as the days.
Also, referees have been getting assaulted in the GAA since 1884 ffs.
The influence of Aussie Rules has been catastraphic for the GAA.
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 16, 2010, 04:01:54 PM
The influence of Aussie Rules has been catastraphic for the GAA.
That apres match with the ACDC soundtrack to the beating Ireland got some time ago in Oz is a classic.
I blame Croke park. If there were no Croke park there would be no Foreign games in Croke park and we wouldn't be in Croke watching them games getting corrupt. I can't believe what that Dineen bastard did to Ireland.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2010, 07:53:33 PM
I blame Croke park. If there were no Croke park there would be no Foreign games in Croke park and we wouldn't be in Croke watching them games getting corrupt. I can't believe what that Dineen b**tard did to Ireland.
This is perhaps the most interesting theory yet. The debate has been passionate here with both sides giving good arguments. But from the poll results its quite clear to see that Foreign sports have indeed ruined the GAA.
Lads, have a listen to this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsKFaSbdCEY
while the 'Dubs' have been singing soccer style on hill 16 since the 70's at least, the first time I saw soccer style chanting from anyone else was the kildare bandwagon jumpers in 1991 when mickodwyers team got to NFL semi final and then final.
while 'foreign' games have maybe influenced some soccer style booing of freetakers and chanting, you cannot say these are 'problems' and that they are caused by anything else than our own sliding standards of manners as a society