Will set this up for later on in the year.
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Cavan v Donegal (Cavan venue)
Quarter Finals:
Hallow'een - Yahoo!
Armagh v Antrim (Armagh venue)
Down v Derry (Down venue)
Tyrone v Fermanagh (Tyrone venue)
Monaghan v Cavan or Donegal (Monaghan v Cavan - Monaghan venue. Monaghan v Donegal - Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
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Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Monaghan v Donegal (Monaghan venue)
Quarter Finals:
Sunday October 31st
Down v Fermanagh (Down venue)
Antrim v Derry (Antrim venue)
Cavan v Tyrone (Cavan venue)
Armagh v Monaghan or Donegal (Armagh v Monaghan - Armagh venue. Armagh v Donegal - Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Down/Fermanagh v Antrim/Derry
Cavan/Tyrone v Monaghan/Donegal/Armagh
Final:
Sunday November 28th
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Ulster Junior Football Championship:
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Tyrone v Monaghan (Tyrone venue}
Quarter Finals:
Sunday October 31st
Cavan v Derry (Cavan venue)
Fermanagh v Down (Fermanagh venue)
Armagh v Antrim (Armagh venue)
Donegal v Tyrone or Monaghan (Donegal v Tyrone - Donegal venue. Donegal v Monaghan - Monaghan venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Cavan/Derry v Fermanagh/Down
Armagh/Antrim v Tyrone/Monaghan/Donegal
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Semi Final(s):
Sunday October 10th
(*If Keady win the Armagh Senior Hurling Championship:)
Armagh* v Derry
Antrim v Down Casement Park
Final:
Sunday October 24th Casement Park
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship:
(If a team that is not Keady win the Armagh SHC then they will compete in the Intermediate Championship:)
Quarter Finals:
Sunday October 3rd
Monaghan v Fermanagh
Tyrone v Down
Semi Finals:
Sunday October 10th
Antrim v Monaghan or Fermanagh
Armagh v Tyrone or Down
Final:
Sunday October 24th
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Ulster Junior Hurling Championship:
(If Castleblayney win the Monaghan Championship
or Lisbellaw(remember them) the Fermanagh Championship
or Naomh Colm Cille the Tyrone Championship
then they will compete in the Ulster Intermediate Championship
unless there is a big meeting to decide otherwise)
Anyway:
Preliminary Round
Sunday September 26th
Tyrone v Donegal
Quarter Finals:
Sunday October 3rd
Armagh v Derry
Monaghan v Fermanagh
Cavan v Antrim
Down v Donegal/Tyrone
Semi Finals:
Sunday October 10th
Armagh/Derry v Monaghan/Fermanagh
Cavan/Antrim v Down/Tyrone/Donegal
Final:
Sunday October 24th
And they've announced it in advance this year.
Extra Time where required in all Club Championship matches apart from the Finals.
Can't get my head around the GAA's need to have a competion draw ten months in advance. The All Ireland semis haven't been played yet so in effect the entire competition has not even finished yet. Takes the excitement out of the draw too.
Quote from: drici on January 14, 2010, 11:57:47 AM
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Final:
Sunday October 24th Casement Park
damn it - wifes birthday that day and I was intendng to be on holidays for this date
may have to have a re-think
Donegal Senior Football Championship 2010
Home and away.
Seven 2nd leg matches this weekend.
1st leg results in brackets.
Gleann tSúilí (1-12) Gleann Fhinne (1-09)
Cill Chartha (1-11) Naomh Conaill (0-08)
Naomh Adhamhnáin (1-11) Aodh Ruadh (0-08)
Bun Crannacha (0-07) Gaoth Dobhair (0-13)
An Clochán Liath (2-09) An Tearmann (0-07)
Na Cealla Beaga (0-10) Ard a' Rátha (1-09)
Málainn (0-03) Na Ceithre Maistirí (0-10)
Already settled.
1st leg: Gaeil Fhanada 2-06 Naomh Mícheál 2-13
2nd leg: Naomh Mícheál 6-13 Gaeil Fhanada 0-05
Donegal Senior Football Championship 2010
Results from tonight's three games.
19:00 Gleann tSúilí 1-18 Gleann Fhinne 3-07
Gleann tSúilí win home and away and go through.
19:00 Cill Chartha 0-09 Naomh Conaill 0-10
One win each - goes to a 3rd game to decide who goes through.
19:30 Naomh Adhamhnáin 0-12 Aodh Ruadh 1-07
Naomh Adhamhnáin go through.
Donegal Senior Football Championship 2010
Sunday's 2nd Leg results.
Bun Crannacha 0-07 Gaoth Dobhair 2-15
1-07 scored in the last fifteen minutes sends Gaoth Dobhair through.
An Clochán Liath 1-08 An Tearmann 0-07
Benny McGarvey's goal settles the match and qualification.
Na Cealla Beaga 0-14 Ard a' Rátha 1-07
A third game is required to seperate these two.
Málainn 0-09 Na Ceithre Maistirí 1-06
A win and a draw is enough to send Na Ceithre Maistirí on to the Quarter Finals.
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals Draw
An Clochán Liath v Ard a Rátha/Na Cealla Beaga
Naomh Mícheál v Naomh Conaill/Cill Chartha
Naomh Adhamhnáin v Na Ceithre Maistirí
Gleann tSúilí v Gaoth Dobhair
Games intended to be played on the weekend of the 3rd/4th of July with the Competition carrying on depending on how the County goes in this oul All Ireland Qualifiers lark.
Play Off Results
Na Cealla Beaga 1-08 Ard a' Rátha 1-07
Naomh Conaill 2-11 Cill Chartha 0-09
Revised Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals Draw
An Clochán Liath v Na Cealla Beaga
Naomh Mícheál v Naomh Conaill
Naomh Adhamhnáin v Na Ceithre Maistirí
Gleann tSúilí v Gaoth Dobhair
I always thought these were settled on aggregate scores. I presume they've no back door system?
Quarter Final Result:
Gleann tSúilí 1-10 Gaoth Dobhair 0-04
Naomh Adhamhnáin in difficulties against Na Ceithre Maistirí at the moment.
Naomh Adhamhnáin 1-05 Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-11
In injury time.
Naomh Adhamhnáin 1-05 Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-11
Sin é.
Today's Quarter Final Results:
15:00 An Clochán Liath 1-07 Na Cealla Beaga 1-08
18:30 Naomh Mícheál 0-10 Naomh Conaill 1-10
Semi Finals Draw
Naomh Conaill v Gleann tSuilí
Na Ceithre Maistirí v Na Cealla Beaga
Matches to be played on August 18th/19th. (Edit: - They weren't)
New Senior Football Champions i nDún na nGall this year.
Donegal Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Saturday August 28th
Na Ceithre Maistirí v Na Cealla Beaga
18:30 MacCumhaill Park
Referee: Robbie O'Donnell Abú
Sunday August 29th
Naomh Conaill v Gleann tSuilí
18:30 O'Donnell Park
Referee: Séamas McGonagle
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Saturday September 4th
@ 4.00pm
in Cullyhanna--Ballymacnab v Dromintee
@ 6.00pm
in Abbey Park--Pearse Og v Granemore
Sunday September 5th
@ 2.00pm
in Pearse Og Park--St.Patricks v Maghery
@ 6.00pm
in Carrickcruppin--Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps
Donegal Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-10 Na Cealla Beaga 0-10
Na Ceithre Maistirí: Paul Durcan; Conor Browne, David Crawford, Daniel McGarrigle; Conor Rooney (0-1), Shane Carr, Sean O'Kennedy; Benny Byrne (0-1), Karl Lacey; Luke Keaney (0-1), Michael Doherty (0-7, 4f), Barry Dunnion; Joel Carr, Don Monaghan, Stephen Keeney. Subs., Oisin McGinty for S Carr ht; Conor McMonagle for J Carr 54
Na Cealla Beaga: Michael Mullen; David Conwell, Barry Cannon, Kevin Fallon; Pauric Gallagher, Shane Boyle, Shane Molloy; Christopher Murrin (0-2), Peter Boyle; Ronan Boyle, Mark Boyle, Paul McGinley; Kevin Martin (0-7,4f, two '45s', Conal Molloy (0-1,f), Daniel Breslin. Subs., Louis McNern for Peter McGinley 49; Manus Boyle for Mark Boyle 54
Naomh Conaill 2-13 Gleann tSuilí 2-08
Naomh Conaill: Stephen McGrath; Tommy Donoghue, Johnny Bonner, Ciaran Boyle; Marty Boyle, Anthony Thompson (1-2), Eoin Waide; Martin Regan, Johnny McLoone; Brendan McDyre, Leo McLoone (0-1), Dara Gallagher (0-3,2f); John O'Malley, Dermot Molloy (0-3,2f), Leon Thompson (1-3). Subs: Seamus Corcoran (0-1) for B. McDyer 43; Dominic Bonner for 56; Hugh McDevitt for M. Regan 59.
Gleann tSuilí: Philip O'Donnell; Brian McDaid, Barry Canning, Joe Gibbons; Martin McGinley, John McFadden, Ruairi Crawford; Neil Gallagher (0-1), Gary McFadden; Colin Kelly (1-2), Darren McGinley, Ciaran Bonner (0-1); Michael Murphy (1-3,2f), Daniel Gallagher, Kealan McFadden (0-1). Subs: Gerard McGrenra for D. Gallagher 35; Shaun Burke for R. Crawford 57
05-09-10 (Sunday)
Senior Football Championship
Semi Final Replay
Na Ceithre Maistirí v Na Cealla Beaga
18:15 MacCumhaill Park
Referee:Trevor McBrearty
(Extra Time if required)
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Ballinderry v Lavey
Ballinascreen v Coleraine
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Finals
Coalisland v Kildress
Carrickmore v Omagh
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
St Brigids v Cargin
St Johns v St Galls
Quote from: AFS on August 27, 2010, 11:36:14 AM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Saturday September 4th
@ 4.00pm
in Cullyhanna--Ballymacnab v Dromintee
@ 6.00pm
in Abbey Park--Pearse Og v Granemore
Sunday September 5th
@ 2.00pm
in Pearse Og Park--St.Patricks v Maghery
@ 6.00pm
in Carrickcruppin--Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps
Donegal Senior Football Championship
Semi Final Replay
Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-07 Na Cealla Beaga 0-10
Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-07: (M Doherty 0-4(4 frees), Benny Byrne 0-1, Sean O'Kennedy 0-1, Joel Carr 0-1)
Na Cealla Beaga 0-10: (Kevin Martin 0-5(5 frees), Conal Molloy 0-2, Charles Tully 0-2, Shane Molloy 0-1)
The Donegal Senior Football Championship Final between Naomh Conaill and Na Cealla Beaga has now been put back to Sunday October 3rd as na mná beat Longford by 3-14 to 1-06 on Saturday to qualify for the All Ireland Intermediate Football Final against Waterford which will be played on Sunday September 26th in Croke Park.
26-09-10 Sunday
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) v Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey(Donegal)
3-30pm Omagh
B Sweeney(Cavan)
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Dalzell's of Markethill Armagh Senior Football Championship
Semi Finals
25-09-10 (Saturday)
Dromintee St Patricks v Granemore St Marys
5-00pm Crossmaglen
M Leonard
26-09-10 (Sunday)
Crossmaglen Rangers v Cullyhanna St Patricks
5-00pm Silverbridge
J McKee
Quote from: drici on September 21, 2010, 10:21:53 AM
Dalzell's of Markethill Armagh Senior Football Championship
Semi Finals
25-09-10 (Saturday)
Dromintee St Patricks v Granemore St Marys
5-00pm Crossmaglen
M Leonard
26-09-10 (Sunday)
Crossmaglen Rangers v Cullyhanna St Patricks
5-00pm Silverbridge
J McKee
Did you make the bit in bold up?
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 21, 2010, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: drici on September 21, 2010, 10:21:53 AM
Dalzell's of Markethill Armagh Senior Football Championship
Semi Finals
25-09-10 (Saturday)
Dromintee St Patricks v Granemore St Marys
5-00pm Crossmaglen
M Leonard
26-09-10 (Sunday)
Crossmaglen Rangers v Cullyhanna St Patricks
5-00pm Silverbridge
J McKee
Did you make the bit in bold up?
;)
Here's to the day when we have the W*****s of Clough Down SFC ;)
Aontroim
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Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship
Na Seamrógaí v MacCumhaills - Healy Park Omagh - Sunday 3.30pm
MacCumhaill's continue their adventure against Tyrone champions Seamrógaí
By Staff reporter
ALAN FOLEY
County hurling champions Seán MacCumhaill's fly the Donegal flag in the Ulster Club Junior Hurling Championship this Sunday when they take on Tyrone title-holders Na Seamrógai from Strabane.
Don Browne's team have been busy recently as barely a fortnight has passed since they defeated Setanta in the County Final at O'Donnell Park by 0-15 to 0-12. It was the first victory ever by the side from Ballybofey and Stranorlar and the win was achieved thanks largely to county panellist Lee Henderson, who scored nine points in all.
And although the celebrations after that success was understandably lively, the side from the Twin Towns got back together to cap a fine week when they made their way to Healy Park last Friday for the Ulster senior Hurling Club League Division Four final against St Peter's from Warrenpoint, Co Down.
Once more Henderson was the star of the show with a goal and nine points in the 2-14 to 0-8 win and on Sunday MacCumhaill's return to the scene of that triumph with the likes of Gerard Grindle, Anthony Patton, Jamsie Donnelly, Ciaran Mathewson, Justin McGee, Gerard Cunningham and, of course, Henderson, as they try to down the Strabane team.
Jumping the gun a bit but draw looks nicely set up for appetising QF of Cross V St Galls.
St Galls would be slight favourites for this I would imagine.
By the way for any Donegal Gaels how are the 2 legged ties working out? Do away teams sit back or does it make no real difference?
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Cavan Gaels/Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) v Naomh Conaill/Na Cealla Beaga(Donegal) (Breffni Park)
Quarter Finals:
Hallow'een
Dromintee St Patricks/Granemore St Marys or Crossmaglen Rangers/Cullyhanna St Patricks(Armagh) v Cargin Erin's Own/St Galls(Antrim) (Crossmaglen)
Stacks/of/teams(Down) v Ballinderry Shamrocks/Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) (Páirc Esler)
Coalisland Na Fianna/Kildress Wolfe Tones or Carrickmore St Colmcilles/Omagh St Endas(Tyrone) v Roslea Shamrocks/Donagh St Patricks(Fermanagh) (Omagh)
Castleblayney Faughs/Contibret O'Neills or Magheracloone Mitchells/Scotstown An Bhoth(Monaghan) v Cavan or Donegal (Monaghan v Cavan - Monaghan venue. Monaghan v Donegal - Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Thats a tough draw for the winners of Antrim. Tyrone winners have a favourable draw
Clontibret beat Castleblayney tonight in the first Monaghan semi-final, 0-18 to 0-11.
Scotstown vs Magheracloone in the other semi tomorrow.
It doesnt matter who wins the other county championships, st galls are a cert to win ulster again....
The Loup, we will have it all to do. we havent beat Cross (should they win Armagh) lucky to beat the Armagh winners last year. Ulster is so hard to win
Quote from: theLoup on September 25, 2010, 10:22:55 PM
It doesnt matter who wins the other county championships, st galls are a cert to win ulster again....
The only advantage Gall's have at this stage is that they are through to the Ulster Club Championship. It isn't that long ago (about 10 months) since you guys really fancied your chances against them and the quality of sides who still can win Ulster is much superior to your crew.
Quote from: onthepitch on September 26, 2010, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: theLoup on September 25, 2010, 10:22:55 PM
It doesnt matter who wins the other county championships, st galls are a cert to win ulster again....
The only advantage Gall's have at this stage is that they are through to the Ulster Club Championship. It isn't that long ago (about 10 months) since you guys really fancied your chances against them and the quality of sides who still can win Ulster is much superior to your crew.
What are you on about? if we are the current Ulster Champions, then surely we are up there with the best teams in Ulster???
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 10:59:45 AM
Quote from: onthepitch on September 26, 2010, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: theLoup on September 25, 2010, 10:22:55 PM
It doesnt matter who wins the other county championships, st galls are a cert to win ulster again....
The only advantage Gall's have at this stage is that they are through to the Ulster Club Championship. It isn't that long ago (about 10 months) since you guys really fancied your chances against them and the quality of sides who still can win Ulster is much superior to your crew.
What are you on about? if we are the current Ulster Champions, then surely we are up there with the best teams in Ulster???
I think he's on about the Loup Milltown. Do ye have home advantage in the first round? Casement being fairly handy for me.
Into the Lions den for us!! We were away to Gaels last year in the Preliminary Round so we are used to grinding away results.
yeah we fancied our chances as all teams do in a final, but st galls showed us what a class act they are. crossmaglen are a good side to but st galls are in a league of there own at the moment. i cant see them being beaten by anyone this year again.
Away to the Armagh champions will be incredibly tough regardless of who it is. As mentioned previously, even if we got past that stage the Tyrone champions have a very favourable draw.
If Clontibret come out of Monaghan they'll be hard to stop again and would be particularly gunning for us and Cross.
Antrim Senior Football Final
St Galls 2-13 Cargin 0-10
Antrim Senior Hurling Final
Loughgiel 1-09 Cushendall 0-11
Armagh Senior Football Semi Finals
Dromintee St Patricks 1-09 Granemore St Marys 0-08
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-14 Cullyhanna St Patricks 2-11
Replay Saturday October 2nd 4-30pm Silverbridge
Down Senior Hurling Final
Ballygalget 3-19 Ballycran 1-13
Cavan Senior Football Final
Kingscourt Stars 1-13 Cavan Gaels 1-09
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) v Naomh Conaill/Na Cealla Beaga(Donegal) (Breffni Park)
Quarter Finals:
Hallow'een
Dromintee St Patricks or Crossmaglen Rangers/Cullyhanna St Patricks(Armagh) v St Galls(Antrim) (Crossmaglen)
Stacks/of/teams(Down) v Ballinderry Shamrocks/Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) (Páirc Esler)
Coalisland Na Fianna/Kildress Wolfe Tones or Carrickmore St Colmcilles/Omagh St Endas(Tyrone) v Roslea Shamrocks/Donagh St Patricks(Fermanagh) (Omagh)
Clontibret O'Neills or Magheracloone Mitchells/Scotstown An Bhoth(Monaghan) v Cavan or Donegal (Monaghan v Cavan - Monaghan venue. Monaghan v Donegal - Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
26-09-10 Sunday
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
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02-10-10 (Saturday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) v Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry)
3-30pm Crossmaglen
R Matthews
Seán MacCumhaills v Clonduff(Down)
3-30pm Ballybofey
E Hassan
03-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Quarter Finals
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) v Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh)
3-30pm Inniskeen
K McGuinness
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) v Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim)
3-30pm Ballyconnell
J Devlin
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) v Bredagh(Down)
3-30pm Dungannon
O Elliot
Quote from: gallsman on September 26, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Away to the Armagh champions will be incredibly tough regardless of who it is. As mentioned previously, even if we got past that stage the Tyrone champions have a very favourable draw.
If Clontibret come out of Monaghan they'll be hard to stop again and would be particularly gunning for us and Cross.
Are you involved in any way with the senior footballers (ie managing etc)
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) v Naomh Conaill(Donegal) (Breffni Park)
Quarter Finals:
Hallow'een
Dromintee St Patricks/Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) v St Galls(Antrim) (Crossmaglen)
Burren/Mayobridge or Bryansford/Kilcoo(Down) v Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) (Páirc Esler)
Coalisland Na Fianna or Carrickmore St Colmcilles/Omagh St Endas(Tyrone) v Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) (Omagh)
Clontibret O'Neills/Magheracloone Mitchells(Monaghan) v Cavan or Donegal (Monaghan v Cavan - Monaghan venue. Monaghan v Donegal - Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Would Coleraine be the first side to win an intermediate and then make the step up to winning an ulster senior? I know that's quite a bit away yet, and there's one or two little hurdles en-route.
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 03, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
Would Coleraine be the first side to win an intermediate and then make the step up to winning an ulster senior? I know that's quite a bit away yet, and there's one or two little hurdles en-route.
They would, should they win, but as you say some hurdles to go. Teams after winning their first usually on the piss for a while ;)
Coleraine in football and Loughgiel in the hurling could drink themselves out of the running.
Ulster is a minefield. Crossmaglen in crossmaglen would be a hell of a tough game for galls although judging by the armagh results they don't appear anywhere near as strong as they were. Cavan Gaels being out too would have to leave st galls favourites but armagh champions in armagh will be a tough ask. Had Ronan Clarke not put one just past the post last minute last year things would have been very different for st galls...
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
Coleraine in football and Loughgiel in the hurling could drink themselves out of the running.
Ulster is a minefield. Crossmaglen in crossmaglen would be a hell of a tough game for galls although judging by the armagh results they don't appear anywhere near as strong as they were. Cavan Gaels being out too would have to leave st galls favourites but armagh champions in armagh will be a tough ask. Had Ronan Clarke not put one just past the post last minute last year things would have been very different for st galls...
And if me granny had balls.....
The other team in Armagh I'm sure will have something to say about that. The home draw is certainly a major plus, but we have played Carrickmore Cavan Gaels Enniskillen Gaels Mayobridge in their backyards and managed to win or draw.
If Cross win (big if) then it will be a cracking Halloween match in Crossmaglen
Gall's to lose. Too many new inexperienced faces coming out of Derry, Fermanagh, Cavan, Donegal and possibly Armagh to identify any other real contenders. St Gall's be too long in the tooth and should win Ulster.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2010, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 03, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
Would Coleraine be the first side to win an intermediate and then make the step up to winning an ulster senior? I know that's quite a bit away yet, and there's one or two little hurdles en-route.
They would, should they win, but as you say some hurdles to go. Teams after winning their first usually on the piss for a while ;)
i'd say they're probably the only ulster intermediate winners to go on and play ulster senior club. It may have been done the other way round though.
Quote from: Gold on September 28, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 26, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Away to the Armagh champions will be incredibly tough regardless of who it is. As mentioned previously, even if we got past that stage the Tyrone champions have a very favourable draw.
If Clontibret come out of Monaghan they'll be hard to stop again and would be particularly gunning for us and Cross.
Are you involved in any way with the senior footballers (ie managing etc)
Nope, I left Belfast after minor to study in Dublin.
Quote from: gallsman on October 03, 2010, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 28, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 26, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Away to the Armagh champions will be incredibly tough regardless of who it is. As mentioned previously, even if we got past that stage the Tyrone champions have a very favourable draw.
If Clontibret come out of Monaghan they'll be hard to stop again and would be particularly gunning for us and Cross.
Are you involved in any way with the senior footballers (ie managing etc)
Nope, I left Belfast after minor to study in Dublin.
was wondering if he was being funny!!!
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 03, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
Would Coleraine be the first side to win an intermediate and then make the step up to winning an ulster senior? I know that's quite a bit away yet, and there's one or two little hurdles en-route.
Think Mullaghbawn in Armagh came from Intermediate in early 90's to Ulster Champions in 95.
I can't be arsed looking bacj through posts bu I think he's had a go at me before and decided to just play it straight.
I don't think I've ever made any attempt to link myself to St. Galls senior success over the last ten years and readily admit I would neve rhave been good enough for senior football or hurling.
your being too hard on yourself!!!
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 03, 2010, 09:29:38 PM
Gall's to lose. Too many new inexperienced faces coming out of Derry, Fermanagh, Cavan, Donegal and possibly Armagh to identify any other real contenders. St Gall's be too long in the tooth and should win Ulster.
Clontibret might quietly fancy themselves too :-\
they have to win their own Championship
Quote from: Yes I Would on October 03, 2010, 09:53:54 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 03, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
Would Coleraine be the first side to win an intermediate and then make the step up to winning an ulster senior? I know that's quite a bit away yet, and there's one or two little hurdles en-route.
Think Mullaghbawn in Armagh came from Intermediate in early 90's to Ulster Champions in 95.
yeah, i'm sure there's a few that have done that, but since the intermediate interprovincial series only started in the late 90's, i wouldn't think there's many who've played in both competitions.
26-09-10 Sunday
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
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02-10-10 (Saturday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) 2-09 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 2-06
3-30pm Crossmaglen
Seán MacCumhaills 3-16 v Clonduff(Down) 1-05
3-30pm Ballybofey
03-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Quarter Finals
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) 2-17 Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh) 0-08
3-30pm Inniskeen
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14
3-30pm Ballyconnell
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
Éire Óg 1-21 (Conor Grogan 1-5, Aidan Kelly 0-7(6 frees), J Kelly 0-3, G Fox 0-3, T Hughes 0-1, R McCallan 0-1, P Hughes 0-1)
Bredagh 0-03 (I Galway 0-2(2 frees), G Murray 0-1(a free))
3-30pm Dungannon
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Semi Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua v Inniskeen Grattans
Cloughmills St Brigids v Seán MacCumhaills
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Semi Finals
St Johns(Antrim) v Lisbellaw St Patricks(Fermanagh)
Cúchulainns(Armagh) v Carrickmore Éire Óg
Thats some score Carrickmore put up. How many dual players would they have? P Hughes
how are St John's in the Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship smells a bit like Gort na Mona dropping down a couple of seasons back to get some silverware
Quote from: BenDover on October 04, 2010, 03:08:27 PM
how are St John's in the Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship smells a bit like Gort na Mona dropping down a couple of seasons back to get some silverware
They are playing Div 2 hurling in Antrim.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2010, 02:46:26 PM
Thats some score Carrickmore put up. How many dual players would they have? P Hughes
They wouldn't have many more hurlers who would start on the first 15 of the football team, although they have alot of boys who basically quit the hurling to focus on the football and if they had all these boys on board their senior hurling team would be considerably better.
Carrickmore won the Ulster Minor Hurling Championship at Ballinascreen about five or six years ago if my memory serves me correctly.
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 04, 2010, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2010, 02:46:26 PM
Thats some score Carrickmore put up. How many dual players would they have? P Hughes
They wouldn't have many more hurlers who would start on the first 15 of the football team, although they have alot of boys who basically quit the hurling to focus on the football and if they had all these boys on board their senior hurling team would be considerably better.
A fair handful would train with footballers too but most would be in the reserves/ or our all conquering (:P) thirds side rather than senior side
we would have 9 players on both, could have more to be honest but its a big ask
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) 2-09 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 2-06
Seán MacCumhaills 3-16 v Clonduff(Down) 1-05
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) 2-17 Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh) 0-08
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14
10-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua v Inniskeen Grattans
12-30pm Clones
T McIntyre
Cloughmills St Brigids v Seán MacCumhaills
1-45pm Dungannon
D Sweeney
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
10-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
St Johns(Antrim) v Lisbellaw St Patricks(Fermanagh)
1-45pm Casement Park
G Devlin
Cúchulainns(Armagh) v Carrickmore Éire Óg
2-15pm Clones
L McAuley
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10-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Loughgiel Shamrocks(Antrim) v Ballygalget John Mitchels(Down)
3-30pm Casement Park
E Hassan
Keady Lámh Dhearg(Armagh) v Lavey Erins Own(Derry)
3-30pm Dungannon
G Duffy
QuoteUlster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
Is that Bredagh's second team ?
Thats their first team!!
Any odds on the hurling, I think Keady could spring a surprise by beating Lavey, then again Armagh did beat Derry this year.
2010 Ulster Senior Club Football Champ
St Galls
11/10
Crossmaglen Rangers
5/1
Clontibret
7/1
Coleraine
7/1
Carrickmore
12/1
Coalisland
12/1
Dromintee
16/1
Magheracloone
20/1
Mayobridge
25/1
Omagh
25/1
Naomh Conaill
25/1
Bryansford
33/1
Burren
33/1
Kilcoo
33/1
Roslea
66/1
Kingscourt Stars
100/1
Courtesy of Ladbrokes
Will be interesting to see how Clontibret's odds shorten in comparison to Cross and Coleraine if they win on Sunday.
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) 2-09 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 2-06
Seán MacCumhaills 3-16 v Clonduff(Down) 1-05
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) 2-17 Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh) 0-08
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14
10-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua 1-09 Inniskeen Grattans 0-16
12-30pm Clones
Cloughmills St Brigids 0-18 Seán MacCumhaills 0-15
1-45pm Dungannon
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
10-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
St Johns(Antrim) 5-14 Lisbellaw St Patricks(Fermanagh) 0-09
1-45pm Casement Park
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
2-15pm Clones
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10-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Loughgiel Shamrocks(Antrim) 2-17 Ballygalget John Mitchels(Down) 2-06
3-30pm Casement Park
Keady Lámh Dhearg(Armagh) 1-15 Lavey Erins Own(Derry) 2-10
3-30pm Dungannon
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
thats a serious score. should be a good final, Johnnies should have too much for them i'd expect
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 10:37:53 AM
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
thats a serious score. should be a good final, Johnnies should have too much for them i'd expect
8-32 ....some tally for just two games
17-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) v Naomh Conaill(Donegal)
3-30pm O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt
P Hughes
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Doohamlet O'Neills(Monaghan) v Bundoran Réalt na Mara(Donegal)
3-30pm Clones
G Walsh
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) v Corduff Gaels(Monaghan)
3-30pm Dungannon
M McErlane
Quote from: Nally Stand on October 11, 2010, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 10:37:53 AM
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
thats a serious score. should be a good final, Johnnies should have too much for them i'd expect
8-32 ....some tally for just two games
When and where is the final Nally Stand?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on October 11, 2010, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 10:37:53 AM
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
thats a serious score. should be a good final, Johnnies should have too much for them i'd expect
8-32 ....some tally for just two games
When and where is the final Nally Stand?
The final is fixed for 24th October, no venue fixed yet. This is the same day as the date fixed for the Tyrone football final, so if we manage to beat Omagh there'll be a clash. Hopefully common sense will prevail and there'll be a change somewhere along the line...I'm not holding my breath though!
the Ulster Council will not move their dates, thats for sure. Dual clubs are being hit by the Ulster council cause they don't recognise hurling here in the north
Quote from: swing-er-over on October 08, 2010, 05:42:10 PM
2010 Ulster Senior Club Football Champ
St Galls
11/10
Crossmaglen Rangers
5/1
Clontibret
7/1
Coleraine
7/1
Carrickmore
12/1
Coalisland
12/1
Dromintee
16/1
Magheracloone
20/1
Mayobridge
25/1
Omagh
25/1
Naomh Conaill
25/1
Bryansford
33/1
Burren
33/1
Kilcoo
33/1
Roslea
66/1
Kingscourt Stars
100/1
Courtesy of Ladbrokes
Does Paddy Power do ulster club odds atm?
16 Oct. 16:00 Carrickmore vs Omagh - (Tyrone SFC) 4/7 13/2 7/4
16 Oct. 20:00 Carbery Rangers vs St Finbarrs - (Cork SFC) 13/8 15/2 4/7
17 Oct. 14:00 Killererin vs Corofin - (Galway SFC) 13/8 7/1 8/13
17 Oct. 14:00 Clontibret vs Magheracloone - (Monaghan SFC) 2/3 13/2 3/2
17 Oct. 14:00 Crossmaglen vs Dromintee - (Armagh SFC) 2/7 17/2 3/1
17 Oct. 14:00 Moorefield vs Sarsfields - (Kildare SFC) 1/2 15/2 15/8
17 Oct. 15:30 Austin Stacks vs Dr Crokes - (Kerry SFC) 7/4 15/2 8/15
17 Oct. 15:45 Rathvilly vs Old Leighlin - (Carlow SFC) 8/15 15/2 7/4
17 Oct. 15:45 Portlaoise vs Arles Kilcruise - (Laois SFC) 1/7 12/1 9/2
17 Oct. 16:00 St Brigids vs Kilmacud Crokes - (Dublin SFC) 9/4 15/2 4/9
Ladbrokes
16th Oct 2010
20:00 St Finbarrs v Carbery Rangers 8/13 15/2 6/4
17th Oct 2010
15:30 Crossmaglen v Dromintree 2/7 8/1 3/1
15:30 St Brigids v Eastern Harps 4/11 8/1 5/2
15:30 Kingscourt v Naomh Conaill 11/10 7/1 10/11
15:30 Corofin v Killererin 8/13 7/1 13/8
15:30 Austin Stacks v Dr Crokes 12/5 15/2 2/5
15:30 Moorefield v Sarsfields 4/9 7/1 9/4
15:30 Clontibret v Magheracloone 4/6 13/2 6/4
15:30 Stradbally v Ballinacourty 10/11 13/2 11/10
15:45 Rathvilly v Old Leighlin 4/9 7/1 9/4
15:45 Portlaoise v Arles Kilcruise 1/9 14/1 11/2
16:00 Kilmacud Crokes v St Brigids 2/5 15/2 5/2
16:00 Burren v Bryansford 8/13 15/2 6/4
Paddypower
Quote from: dundrumite on October 12, 2010, 12:41:33 PM
Quote from: swing-er-over on October 08, 2010, 05:42:10 PM
2010 Ulster Senior Club Football Champ
Courtesy of Ladbrokes
Does Paddy Power do ulster club odds atm?
they had up ulster club outrights some time last week but have them down again,and the differed greatly from ladbrookes,for eg. kingscourt were around 20/1 rosslea were least favourite.galls were favourites but even their odds were quite a bit different if i remember right.
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) 0-11 Naomh Conaill(Donegal) 1-12
Quarter Finals:
Hallow'een
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) v St Galls(Antrim) (Crossmaglen)
Burren(Down) v Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) (Páirc Esler)
Coalisland Na Fianna or Carrickmore St Colmcilles(Tyrone) v Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) (Omagh)
Naomh Conaill v Clontibret O'Neills(Monaghan) (Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
the Ulster Council will not move their dates, thats for sure. Dual clubs are being hit by the Ulster council cause they don't recognise hurling here in the north
A disgrace if they don't move the Ulster intermediate hurling final to accomodate Carrickmore. St Johns in the hurling would (I hope) have no gripes.
Could move the hurling provisionally to the 7th Nov (as the Tyrone football winners have an Ulster club football match on the 31st October) and then if Carrickmore don't win in Tyrone bring it forward to the weekend of 31 October.
While I have sympathy for fixtures makers Coleraine got screwed over in the Ulster junior hurling (Ulster hurling game the day before the Derry senior football championship).
Should the dual player not be encouraged rather than barriers put up in front of him?
17-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) 0-11 Naomh Conaill(Donegal) 1-12
Kingscourt 0-11 (C Smith 0-1, B Reilly 0-3(1 free), J McMahon 0-1, T Malone 0-1, R McCormack 0-5)
Naomh Conaill 1-12 (A Thompson 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, B McDyre 0-1, L McLoone 1-0, D Gallagher 0-2(2 frees), J O'Malley 0-2, D (B) Molloy 0-4(1 free), L Thompson 0-1)
(O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Doohamlet O'Neills(Monaghan) 1-12 Bundoran Réalt na Mara(Donegal) 1-10
Doohamlet O'Neills 1-12 (J Casey(goalkeeper)0-1(a fifty),T Duffy 0-4(2 frees), M Murphy 0-5(3 frees), S McManus 0-2, NJ Connolly 1-0)
Bundoran Réalt na Mara 1-10 (P McGonigle 0-1, F McKiernan 0-1, T Hourihane 0-5(3 frees), C McCaughey 0-1,C Keaney 1-2(1 fifty))
(Clones)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) 1-12 Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) 1-12 After Extra Time
Full Time: Killyman St Marys 1-09 Corduff Gaels 1-09
Killyman St Marys 1-12 (E Holland 1-3, M Donnelly 0-4(2 frees), E McGahan 0-3(1 free), P McVeigh 0-1(1 free), C Óg Hughes 0-1)
Corduff Gaels 1-12 (K Mc Enaney 1-1, P Gollogly 0-4(2 frees), R Byrne 0-2(2 frees), M Mills 0-1, S Óg McNally 0-1, D Larkin 0-1, B McNally 0-1, S Malone 0-1)
(Dungannon)
Well, it will be grand if the Ulster Council try and facilitate the Tyrone club and reward the efforts put in by the the club.
I won't hold my breath on that one.
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) 2-09 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 2-06
Seán MacCumhaills 3-16 v Clonduff(Down) 1-05
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) 2-17 Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh) 0-08
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14
Semi Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua 1-09 Inniskeen Grattans 0-16
Cloughmills St Brigids 0-18 Seán MacCumhaills 0-15
24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Final
Cloughmills St Brigids v Inniskeen Grattans
1-45pm Casement Park
Gerard Devlin
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
Semi Finals
St Johns(Antrim) 5-14 Lisbellaw St Patricks(Fermanagh) 0-09
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
30th or 31st October (Saturday/Sunday) - depending on the progress of Carrickmore St Colmcilles in the Tyrone Senior Football Final
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Final
St Johns v Carrickmore Éire Óg
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Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Loughgiel Shamrocks(Antrim) 2-17 Ballygalget John Mitchels(Down) 2-06
Keady Lámh Dhearg(Armagh) 1-15 Lavey Erins Own(Derry) 2-10
24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Final
Loughgiel Shamrocks v Keady Lámh Dhearg
3-30pm Casement Park
Declan Magee
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24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Replay
Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) v Killyman St Marys(Tyrone)
3-30pm Inniskeen
G Corrigan
Are those fixtures correct drici? Good to see common sense has prevailed, will give the hurlers another week to prepare anyway! The supporters will be delighted as well!
Quote from: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on October 18, 2010, 01:01:05 PM
Are those fixtures correct drici? Good to see common sense has prevailed, will give the hurlers another week to prepare anyway! The supporters will be delighted as well!
That's the scéal at the moment.
Quote from: drici on October 18, 2010, 01:03:29 PM
Quote from: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on October 18, 2010, 01:01:05 PM
Are those fixtures correct drici? Good to see common sense has prevailed, will give the hurlers another week to prepare anyway! The supporters will be delighted as well!
That's the scéal at the moment.
Buíochas le Dia
Great to hear it!
Loughgiel and Cloughmills are neighbouring clubs so hopefully some decent support out for them both.
looking likely that the burren and coleraine game will be put back a week from the 31st to the 7th of november now....
why is that?
McKernan of Burren playing for Ireland in Compromised Rules I think
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
the Ulster Council will not move their dates, thats for sure. Dual clubs are being hit by the Ulster council cause they don't recognise hurling here in the north
milltown a wee gracious come down would be in order
Quote from: thewanderer on October 20, 2010, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
the Ulster Council will not move their dates, thats for sure. Dual clubs are being hit by the Ulster council cause they don't recognise hurling here in the north
milltown a wee gracious come down would be in order
Yes wanderer was a great move by the Ulster Council, they obviously had a look at our Board and thought better of it :D
We didn't have that problem last year, but were playing hurling one week football the next with virtually the same team!! Did us no harm...
the Coleraine against Burren game has offically been put back to Sunday 7th November at 2.30pm
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
Referee: TBC
(Carrickmore St Colmcilles must now avoid winning the Tyrone Senior Football Championship and following up by drawing After Extra Time with Roslea Shamrocks on October 31st)
Quote from: Overthebar! on October 20, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
the Coleraine against Burren game has offically been put back to Sunday 7th November at 2.30pm
common sense prevails
Quote from: The Worker on October 20, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Overthebar! on October 20, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
the Coleraine against Burren game has offically been put back to Sunday 7th November at 2.30pm
common sense prevails
maybe so, just find it odd that some of the southern players seem to have to make a choice between the two
Prices for the All Ireland club, each ways available
Kilmacud Crokes
4/1
St Galls
5/1
Carrickmore
28/1
Nemo Rangers
6/1
Dr. Crokes
13/2
Crossmaglen
7/1
Portlaois
10/1
St Brigids
11/1
Rohde
12/1
Anyone with a Betfair account should lay Crossmaglen 'till their nose bleeds (as a mate of mine would say). A pale imitation of their former selves.
I can't see Galls slipping up in Ulster despite not playing anywhere near last year's level, yet.
6/1 for Carrickmore!! That is unbelievable short odds. Sounds more like what they are for the Ulster title.
your right Fox, they are 28/1 my mistake :o
Naomh Conaill finish strong to advance past Kingscourt in Ulster Senior Club Championship Preliminary Round
Kingscourt Stars 0-11 Naomh Conaill 1-12
Anthony Thompson stood up and was counted and Leo McLoone bagged a goal as Naomh Conaill came from behind to overcome Cavan champions Kingscourt Stars, in Kingscourt, on Sunday afternoon.
Trailing by three points for the first time in the game and looking in a spot of bother early in the second half, skipper Thompson did what captains are supposed to do; he stood up and was counted.
With the plan of hanging back and holding the middle out the window, the centre back drove forward and ran at the Kingscourt defence at every opportunity.
And with those around him taking the captain's lead, it was the locals who were in bother and on the back foot.
In the space of three minutes with points from Dara Gallagher, Thompson himself and John O'Malley, the Donegal champions had wiped out Kingscourt early second half flurry to tie up the game for the fifth time at 0-8 each
Thompson's own effort could have easily been a goal but for a good save from Brendan McCormack deflecting it over his own bar.
While the razor sharp Ryan McCormack restored the local advantage it was shortlived as within seconds Naomh Conaill had gained parity once again after Brendan McDyre sidestepped a number of defenders to slot over.
And with McDyre, Leo McLoone, Eoin Waide and Johnny McLoone taking a leaf out of the captain's book, the scored flowed. O'Malley and Brick Molloy kicked two mighty points before Leo McLoone got on the end of a good move to hit the Kingscourt net; Dara Gallagher providing the final ball with an inch perfect pass.
That was on 49 minutes and with the scent of victory in their nostrils and leading 1-11 to 0-09, McCormack did heighten the tension when he reduced the margin to three points with two pointed frees.
But it was smiles all round again among the travelling support when Brick Molloy landed the insurance point four minutes from the end.
Naomh Conaill started well and had two points on the board inside seven minutes. Leon Thompson hit the first on four minutes after taking a delicately weighted pass from Johnny McLoone and Dara Gallagher, from a 40 metre free, added the second three minutes later.
Two attacks, two scores. This was in sharp contrast to Kingscourt who had shot two of their four first half wides and also had dropped a ball into Stephen McGrath's hands.
On nine minutes Colm Smith fisted the Cavan champions opening score after good work along the endline from Barry Reilly. Reilly converted a free soon afterwards to tie up the game at 0-2 each.
The sides were level three times more in the remaining 20 minutes of the half as the game ebbed and flowed from end to end though in fairness to the locals they did enjoy the greater share in the
possession stakes.
Dermot Molloy and Barry Reilly and Molloy and Ryan McCormack traded points before McCormack gave Kingscourt into the lead for the first time with six minutes remaining in the half.
John O'Malley levelled matters once again. But it was Reilly who had the last say in the half to give the home team a 0-6 to 0-5 half-time advantage.
(http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/Upload/DNGL//TH1_191020104508bd468.JPG)
This was a hard fought victory uncompromising and at times physical encounter with the physically stronger Cavan champions imposing their style on the game.
This was especially so in the first half and it seemed to knock Naomh Conaill off the stride especially out around midfield where they struggled to get their hands on sufficient ball to make inroads up front.
But it was a different story in the second period when they decided to run at the Kingscourt defence. And with the visitors having the more potent forward line, as was even evident in the first half on a limited supply, the scores flowed and Naomh Conaill hit 1-7 to 0-4 after Kingscourt's initial second half flurry.
Naomh Conaill: Stephen McGrath; Tommy Donoghue, Johnny Bonner, Ciaran Boyle; Marty Boyle, Anthony Thompson (0-1), Eoin Waide; Martin Regan, Johnny McLoone; Brendan McDyre (0-1), Leo McLoone (1-0), Dara Gallagher (0-2,2f); John O'Malley (0-3), Dermot Molloy (0-4,1f), Leon Thompson (0-1). Subs: Dominic Bonner for C. Boyle 3; Conal McNelis for L. Thompson 59; Seamus Corcoran for J. O'Malley 61.
Kingscourt Stars: Brendan McCormack; Shane Gray, Thomas Wakely, Keith McCabe; Barry Tully, Alan Clarke, J.P. Reilly; Colm Smith (0-1), Gavin Sheenan; Barry Reilly (0-3,1f), Philip Smith, Joe McMahon (0-1); Thomas Malone (0-1), Ryan McCormack (0-5f), Darryl Martin. Subs: Mark McGovern for S. Gray 26; Mark McKeon for D. Martin 42; Niall Malone for G. Sheenan 53; Philip Tinnelly for J. McMahon 55
Pádraig Hughes(Armagh)
One of the St Galls mentors won the half time draw ( £100 stg ) at the Armagh county final in Crossmaglen on sunday.
His next visit here will not be as joyous. ;)
Unless, of course, he wins the half time draw again. :D
Quote from: longrunsthefox on October 20, 2010, 09:25:09 PM
6/1 for Carrickmore!! That is unbelievable short odds. Sounds more like what they are for the Ulster title.
Oh we'll see about that ;)
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
I can't see Galls slipping up in Ulster despite not playing anywhere near last year's level, yet.
Same - by all accounts Cross arent the force they were, and thats the only challenge I can see. Quite a few novel winners, which means their focus will have been on co championship and not any further.
Quote from: haranguerer on October 21, 2010, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
I can't see Galls slipping up in Ulster despite not playing anywhere near last year's level, yet.
Same - by all accounts Cross arent the force they were, and thats the only challenge I can see. Quite a few novel winners, which means their focus will have been on co championship and not any further.
I think Carrickmore have a good chance of winning the lot.
Quote from: Nally Stand on October 21, 2010, 11:06:58 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on October 20, 2010, 09:25:09 PM
6/1 for Carrickmore!! That is unbelievable short odds. Sounds more like what they are for the Ulster title.
Oh we'll see about that ;)
do you think Roslea can give them any kind of a game?
Coalisland may give Rosslea a better game ;)
On paper Clontibret look good and Glenties appear to be a team suited to the Ulster Series.
In fairness i cant see anyone fearing the Tyrone champions
its between galls and cross. clontibret are an average side as seen last year and rely too much on mc manus and burren dont have the experience as for the tyrone winners thats their goal.
Quote from: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 02:23:51 PM
its between galls and cross. clontibret are an average side as seen last year and rely too much on mc manus and burren dont have the experience as for the tyrone winners thats their goal.
Burren are a fair shout I reckon, tradition can overcome experience. Cross are not really bothered about the Ulster Championship this year. They are enjoying winning the Armagh title back and if they give St Gall's a decent game they will be happy to lose by a few points only. St Gall's will be too strong and will win Ulster with a bit to spare this year I reckon, though Clontibret may have a shout for it.
Nice try Brokencrossbar1 ;D
I'd say the bookies will have us favourites only because we are the current All Ireland champions
Playing Cross in Crossmaglen is different altogether, Cross beat us handy a couple of years ago and while some of that personal has departed, for me the players that out fought us that day are still there.
Cross will be looking to get their real trophy back and I'd say they didn't dwell too much on celebrating the Armagh championship. It wasn't as if they hadn't won it in 5/6 years!!!
Quote from: drici on October 20, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
Referee: TBC
(Carrickmore St Colmcilles must now avoid winning the Tyrone Senior Football Championship and following up by drawing After Extra Time with Roslea Shamrocks on October 31st)
I am I the only one thinking these big Antrim teams like St Galls and St John's are taking the pi** dropping to the intermediate.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2010, 04:08:47 PM
Nice try Brokencrossbar1 ;D
I'd say the bookies will have us favourites only because we are the current All Ireland champions
Playing Cross in Crossmaglen is different altogether, Cross beat us handy a couple of years ago and while some of that personal has departed, for me the players that out fought us that day are still there.
Cross will be looking to get their real trophy back and I'd say they didn't dwell too much on celebrating the Armagh championship. It wasn't as if they hadn't won it in 5/6 years!!!
I'm not saying they won't put a big effort in but they are realistic that the personnel they have are very young. Apart from Hearty, Francie and Oisin SK is the next oldest at 27. the team that won on Sunday had 9 players under 23 so they are relatively inexperienced. This is a year of building for a proper run at it next year I think.
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 21, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: drici on October 20, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
Referee: TBC
(Carrickmore St Colmcilles must now avoid winning the Tyrone Senior Football Championship and following up by drawing After Extra Time with Roslea Shamrocks on October 31st)
I am I the only one thinking these big Antrim teams like St Galls and St John's are taking the pi** dropping to the intermediate.
We (Naomhgall) are currently bottom of div 2 hurling in Antrim, we are hardly a big senior team!!! if we dont win our last game we will be playing in div 3 next year. Should we enter Junior?
On paper St Gall's are favs for the Ulster. Bcb1 is being a right sneak again talking down Cross' chances, being happy enough with the Armagh title, I've heard it all now :D
St Gall's might lack that wee bit of motivation needed (when have they really been tested competitively this year?) whereas this new crop of Cross players will feel they need to send out a message. They'll not be easy beat at home, only be a point or two in it.
Fancy Burren to upset Coleraine, they have all the tradition which will count for a lot, whereas this is unchartered waters for Coleraine.
I reckon C'island will win Tyrone, and should have too much for Roslea in the Ulster. Neither team will win it.
Naomh Conaill have already got over one hurdle beating Kingscourt, I think they'll be too good for a Clontibret team who have had an average enough year and were lucky enough to win the Monaghan final after a replay by the skin of their teeth.
St Gall's could come undone simply through lack of hunger. Got the feeling they sleepwalked through Antrim and now need to regain some of last year's drive. But they're a special outfit and now have the belief that they're the best in the country. If motivated, and I'm sure they will be knowing them, they'll walk out of South Armagh with a 4-5 pt victory. I suppose beating Cross will cement their dominance in Ulster.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 21, 2010, 04:44:52 PM
Fancy Burren to upset Coleraine, they have all the tradition which will count for a lot, whereas this is unchartered waters for Coleraine.
upset ain't the word.
After the 3-17 to 1-8 hammering we took from Ballinderry in a league semi final at the weekend, I think Burren beating us with something to spare is unfortunately looking like a possibilty.
Ballinderry posters could confirm this, we only had 4 fellas missing (none of them the county lads) - Ballinderry on the other hand didn't have a team gathered up an hour before throw in and landed up 15 minutes before it. And they totally walloped us. Half our team still celebrating and the other half putting the feet up with the county cup in the cabinet, i fear.
Maybe now with the extra week we can get focused but with a few lads going on holiday the week before the game and expectations for the year already outrageously exceeded (think we were 40/1 for Derry at the start of the season) I wouldn't hold my breath.
Quote from: Wee Roddy on October 21, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Coalisland may give Rosslea a better game ;)
On paper Clontibret look good and Glenties appear to be a team suited to the Ulster Series.
In fairness i cant see anyone fearing the Tyrone champions
What paper is this? They just about got past Magheracloone at the second attempt.
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 21, 2010, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on October 21, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Coalisland may give Rosslea a better game ;)
On paper Clontibret look good and Glenties appear to be a team suited to the Ulster Series.
In fairness i cant see anyone fearing the Tyrone champions
What paper is this? They just about got past Magheracloone at the second attempt.
third attempt?
None of the current st galls crop have beaten cross so even with AI medal they should have some motivation.
Antrim is easy for st galls - this is where it starts for them. However they were incredibly lucky to beat Cavan Gaels at this stage last year so maybe this is the best time to get them.
I just have a feeling cross will beat them and I wouldn't say complacency will have anything to do with it. Against real good defenses I'm not convinced the Galls have enough in attack.
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 21, 2010, 06:39:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 21, 2010, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on October 21, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
Coalisland may give Rosslea a better game ;)
On paper Clontibret look good and Glenties appear to be a team suited to the Ulster Series.
In fairness i cant see anyone fearing the Tyrone champions
What paper is this? They just about got past Magheracloone at the second attempt.
third attempt?
The first game meant little, both teams were still in the championship after it. But yeah, we've no chance in Ulster. Sure Brennan said himself winning the county title was job done and it's bonus territory now. Naomh Conaill have a win under their belts and are flying now.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2010, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 21, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: drici on October 20, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
Referee: TBC
(Carrickmore St Colmcilles must now avoid winning the Tyrone Senior Football Championship and following up by drawing After Extra Time with Roslea Shamrocks on October 31st)
I am I the only one thinking these big Antrim teams like St Galls and St John's are taking the pi** dropping to the intermediate.
We (Naomhgall) are currently bottom of div 2 hurling in Antrim, we are hardly a big senior team!!! if we dont win our last game we will be playing in div 3 next year. Should we enter Junior?
You are a big club and still have players available to you I'll bet when your playing championship all your footballers who play hurling are available, as opposed to your league team, St John's though have been a dominant force at underage in Ulster for many years now and have resources most clubs would kill for.
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 22, 2010, 08:44:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2010, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 21, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: drici on October 20, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
Referee: TBC
(Carrickmore St Colmcilles must now avoid winning the Tyrone Senior Football Championship and following up by drawing After Extra Time with Roslea Shamrocks on October 31st)
I am I the only one thinking these big Antrim teams like St Galls and St John's are taking the pi** dropping to the intermediate.
We (Naomhgall) are currently bottom of div 2 hurling in Antrim, we are hardly a big senior team!!! if we dont win our last game we will be playing in div 3 next year. Should we enter Junior?
You are a big club and still have players available to you I'll bet when your playing championship all your footballers who play hurling are available, as opposed to your league team, St John's though have been a dominant force at underage in Ulster for many years now and have resources most clubs would kill for.
Have you seen our changing rooms??? Our facilities are shite and have just been burned down!! The local hoods have nothing better to do. We played championship (one game) this year and i had to strip out so we don't have our full strength team. Loughgiel hammered us.
You need to have a competitive league to have any chance in championship.
As for St Johns yes I'd say they are a senior team going through a slight transition. The thing is, since the chance for clubs to play in Croke Park the standard has been raised a lot. So clubs in Ulster will always play against a better Antrim team, they need to up there game like the Tyrone team did last year in reaching the club final.
Going by this thread noone fancies themselves for Ulster :D
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) 2-09 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 2-06
Seán MacCumhaills 3-16 v Clonduff(Down) 1-05
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) 2-17 Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh) 0-08
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14
Semi Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua 1-09 Inniskeen Grattans 0-16
Cloughmills St Brigids 0-18 Seán MacCumhaills 0-15
24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Final
Cloughmills St Brigids 1-09 Inniskeen Grattans 0-14
Casement Park
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
Semi Finals
St Johns(Antrim) 5-14 Lisbellaw St Patricks(Fermanagh) 0-09
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Final
St Johns 2-11 Carrickmore Éire Óg 1-11
St Johns 2-11 (M O'Neill 0-2, G Clarke 0-1, L Boyle 2-1, B McFall 0-7(4 frees, 1 sideline cut))
Éire Óg 1-11 (J Kerr 0-5(3 frees), A Kelly 0-2(2 frees), J Kelly 0-3(a point from the penalty), C Grogan 1-1)
Casement Park
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Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Loughgiel Shamrocks(Antrim) 2-17 Ballygalget John Mitchels(Down) 2-06
Keady Lámh Dhearg(Armagh) 1-15 Lavey Erins Own(Derry) 2-10
24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Final
Loughgiel Shamrocks 2-24 Keady Lámh Dhearg 0-06
Casement Park
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24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Replay
Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) 1-10 Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) 0-07
Inniskeen
Corss may have a great new pitch but having two games in it in 24 hours before the St Gall's game will cut it up, particularly from those Doohamlet bog stompers!!! This will suit the experienced heads in the St Gall's camp as they will have the guile to slow the game down and win it on frees. St Gall's 1-9 Cross 0-10.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 12:26:45 PM
Corss may have a great new pitch but having two games in it in 24 hours before the St Gall's game will cut it up, particularly from those Doohamlet bog stompers!!! This will suit the experienced heads in the St Gall's camp as they will have the guile to slow the game down and win it on frees. St Gall's 1-9 Cross 0-10.
Bullshitter!!! agreed game will be tight and low scoring, doubt there will be a goal with Franice staying back and playing sweeper. that will actually suit us if Cross do that. All the Antrim teams have employed that system against us
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 12:26:45 PM
Corss may have a great new pitch but having two games in it in 24 hours before the St Gall's game will cut it up, particularly from those Doohamlet bog stompers!!! This will suit the experienced heads in the St Gall's camp as they will have the guile to slow the game down and win it on frees. St Gall's 1-9 Cross 0-10.
Bullshitter!!! agreed game will be tight and low scoring, doubt there will be a goal with Franice staying back and playing sweeper. that will actually suit us if Cross do that. All the Antrim teams have employed that system against us
Why am I a bullshitter? There will be difficult conditions to play in with probably a wet pitch and 2 games over the previous 24 hours. You agree with me that it will be a low scoring game. Most games at this time of year are won by 12-14 points to 8-11 points. Check the stats over the years and you will see that scoring pattern. Most games at this time of the year are won by the teams with the most experience and cuteness. I think that St Gall's current squad have that edge over Cross. You cannot underestimate the impact that losing the Macs, JD and to a lesser extent Short has had in terms if experience. Cross are a talented but young side and St Galls will rightly be slight favourites to win and I reckon that there extra experience will see them throigh by 2-3 points.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 12:26:45 PM
Corss may have a great new pitch but having two games in it in 24 hours before the St Gall's game will cut it up, particularly from those Doohamlet bog stompers!!! This will suit the experienced heads in the St Gall's camp as they will have the guile to slow the game down and win it on frees. St Gall's 1-9 Cross 0-10.
Bullshitter!!! agreed game will be tight and low scoring, doubt there will be a goal with Franice staying back and playing sweeper. that will actually suit us if Cross do that. All the Antrim teams have employed that system against us
Why am I a bullshitter? There will be difficult conditions to play in with probably a wet pitch and 2 games over the previous 24 hours. You agree with me that it will be a low scoring game. Most games at this time of year are won by 12-14 points to 8-11 points. Check the stats over the years and you will see that scoring pattern. Most games at this time of the year are won by the teams with the most experience and cuteness. I think that St Gall's current squad have that edge over Cross. You cannot underestimate the impact that losing the Macs, JD and to a lesser extent Short has had in terms if experience. Cross are a talented but young side and St Galls will rightly be slight favourites to win and I reckon that there extra experience will see them throigh by 2-3 points.
yes the two Macs are a big loss and certainly JD was a good player that day in Newry :(, but the reality is, Cross have only lost one Armagh championship in 14 years!! they are no mugs and all but 1/2 players have played in Ulster Championships.
I wouldn't be talking them down. Bullshitting your chances just, not you personally. we've a few injuries going into the game, wouldn't be the same team that started the County final but good replacements all the same. Course we'd be happy with a one point win. two games on that day, So may head down early have a few pints. clubrooms open for drinks?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2010, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 22, 2010, 08:44:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2010, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 21, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: drici on October 20, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
Referee: TBC
(Carrickmore St Colmcilles must now avoid winning the Tyrone Senior Football Championship and following up by drawing After Extra Time with Roslea Shamrocks on October 31st)
I am I the only one thinking these big Antrim teams like St Galls and St John's are taking the pi** dropping to the intermediate.
We (Naomhgall) are currently bottom of div 2 hurling in Antrim, we are hardly a big senior team!!! if we dont win our last game we will be playing in div 3 next year. Should we enter Junior?
You are a big club and still have players available to you I'll bet when your playing championship all your footballers who play hurling are available, as opposed to your league team, St John's though have been a dominant force at underage in Ulster for many years now and have resources most clubs would kill for.
Have you seen our changing rooms??? Our facilities are shite and have just been burned down!! The local hoods have nothing better to do. We played championship (one game) this year and i had to strip out so we don't have our full strength team. Loughgiel hammered us.
You need to have a competitive league to have any chance in championship.
As for St Johns yes I'd say they are a senior team going through a slight transition. The thing is, since the chance for clubs to play in Croke Park the standard has been raised a lot. So clubs in Ulster will always play against a better Antrim team, they need to up there game like the Tyrone team did last year in reaching the club final.
Ok your changing facilities are crap but you have a couple of good pitches and a large catchment area.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 12:26:45 PM
Corss may have a great new pitch but having two games in it in 24 hours before the St Gall's game will cut it up, particularly from those Doohamlet bog stompers!!! This will suit the experienced heads in the St Gall's camp as they will have the guile to slow the game down and win it on frees. St Gall's 1-9 Cross 0-10.
Bullshitter!!! agreed game will be tight and low scoring, doubt there will be a goal with Franice staying back and playing sweeper. that will actually suit us if Cross do that. All the Antrim teams have employed that system against us
Why am I a bullshitter? There will be difficult conditions to play in with probably a wet pitch and 2 games over the previous 24 hours. You agree with me that it will be a low scoring game. Most games at this time of year are won by 12-14 points to 8-11 points. Check the stats over the years and you will see that scoring pattern. Most games at this time of the year are won by the teams with the most experience and cuteness. I think that St Gall's current squad have that edge over Cross. You cannot underestimate the impact that losing the Macs, JD and to a lesser extent Short has had in terms if experience. Cross are a talented but young side and St Galls will rightly be slight favourites to win and I reckon that there extra experience will see them throigh by 2-3 points.
yes the two Macs are a big loss and certainly JD was a good player that day in Newry :(, but the reality is, Cross have only lost one Armagh championship in 14 years!! they are no mugs and all but 1/2 players have played in Ulster Championships.
I wouldn't be talking them down. Bullshitting your chances just, not you personally. we've a few injuries going into the game, wouldn't be the same team that started the County final but good replacements all the same. Course we'd be happy with a one point win. two games on that day, So may head down early have a few pints. clubrooms open for drinks?
Cross have more Armagh County players than St Galls have Antim players and should be favourites on their own patch, St Galls though are a good team.
See the Irish News are saying this morning that John Mac is back in the Cross fold. A massive boost for them. Also they were saying betting for the game is 6/4 Cross v St Galls 8/11.
I can't see Cross losing this one. Their record at home is formidable plus they have both experience, youth and talent in abundance.
Thats that then, should make good money this weekend ;)
Quote from: hardstation on October 26, 2010, 10:21:48 AM
Galls won't have much bother putting Cross away.
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 26, 2010, 10:28:51 AM
I can't see Cross losing this one. Their record at home is formidable plus they have both experience, youth and talent in abundance.
Draw. Definitely going to be a draw.
"What do you think, Tony Scullion?"
"ITS A DRRRRRAW, PICK UP THE CYAPS AN GO BACK TO THE MAASTER"
Cross and St Gall's will be no easy affair and at the value a draw could be worth a poke
I am backing Coalisland @11/2 for the Ulster they seem to have a easier passage through with the two big guns meeting in the first round. 11/2 for one big game is worth a punt for me as they have came out of a pretty strong club footballing county
Draw wouldn't be out of the question. I reckon still though that St Gall's will nick it by 2-3 points. The thing is though they will have to cope with the pressure of being favourites and that is not always an easy tag to carry for any team. They should be able to deal with it but pressure can sometim,es make certain kinds of players crack.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 01:09:28 PM
Draw wouldn't be out of the question. I reckon still though that St Gall's will nick it by 2-3 points. The thing is though they will have to cope with the pressure of being favourites and that is not always an easy tag to carry for any team. They should be able to deal with it but pressure can sometim,es make certain kinds of players crack.
Well Crossbar at the minute we are favourites but it seems that there is some heavy punting going on, our price is moving out and your price is getting lower!!!
I'll put my fiver on and see if that makes a difference, I think by the end of the week there wont be much between them, well in Paddy Powers betting shop, never a game won in there but they are good judges
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 01:09:28 PM
Draw wouldn't be out of the question. I reckon still though that St Gall's will nick it by 2-3 points. The thing is though they will have to cope with the pressure of being favourites and that is not always an easy tag to carry for any team. They should be able to deal with it but pressure can sometim,es make certain kinds of players crack.
I wouldn't worry to much about the favourites tag. They've been favourites in every game they have played in over a year. It will be unusual for Cross to be underdogs and they might relish that in particular being at home. I'd say there is more chance of the underdog tag (although it's only slight) having an effect on Cross than a favourite tag effecting St. Galls.
I have to agree with Hardstation and expect St. Galls to come out on top.
Quote from: Joxer on October 26, 2010, 09:19:50 AM
See the Irish News are saying this morning that John Mac is back in the Cross fold. A massive boost for them. Also they were saying betting for the game is 6/4 Cross v St Galls 8/11.
Bullshit, not happening. IN filling space again with speculation.
Quote from: Zapatista on October 26, 2010, 01:26:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 01:09:28 PM
Draw wouldn't be out of the question. I reckon still though that St Gall's will nick it by 2-3 points. The thing is though they will have to cope with the pressure of being favourites and that is not always an easy tag to carry for any team. They should be able to deal with it but pressure can sometim,es make certain kinds of players crack.
I wouldn't worry to much about the favourites tag. They've been favourites in every game they have played in over a year. It will be unusual for Cross to be underdogs and they might relish that in particular being at home. I'd say there is more chance of the underdog tag (although it's only slight) having an effect on Cross than a favourite tag effecting St. Galls.
I have to agree with Hardstation and expect St. Galls to come out on top.
That's why I said they should be able to deal with it. The should win this game and would be a shoo in for Ulster. It is hard to win back to back AI's and with Dr Crokes and nemo looking strong and Portlaoise always being strong they will have their work cut out to win the AI but I have no doubt that they would fancy themselves for it if they get over Cross on Sunday.
Portlaoise would feel they fcuked up last year to Kilmurray and have something to prove, Crokes and the Dublin winners will also have a say in the direction of the All Ireland. Nemo not as strong as they have been in the past. So I'm discounting them now :o
No guarantee that the Ulster winners will be coming from our match but certainly, and rightly so the favourites will be the winners on Sunday!!
Looking forward to it, the players know that this team we have currently has only 3/4 years at winning the Antrim Championship and the opportunity of becoming All Ireland champions, lost one won one is great for any club. But I'm sure they want more.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2010, 02:26:39 PM
Portlaoise would feel they fcuked up last year to Kilmurray and have something to prove, Crokes and the Dublin winners will also have a say in the direction of the All Ireland. Nemo not as strong as they have been in the past. So I'm discounting them now :o
No guarantee that the Ulster winners will be coming from our match but certainly, and rightly so the favourites will be the winners on Sunday!!
Looking forward to it, the players know that this team we have currently has only 3/4 years at winning the Antrim Championship and the opportunity of becoming All Ireland champions, lost one won one is great for any club. But I'm sure they want more.
Discount Nemo at your peril. The winners between them and Crokes wll have a major say in whether you retain your title. The have been building in new players this year and I heard from a man at the final and he said they were very fit and beat the Barrs with a bit in the tank. tradition also is massive at this time of the year.
There seems to be a doubt over with Jaimie Clarke has been cleared to play on Sunday. I hear he is definitely out. Have you heard BC?
Quote from: mackers on October 26, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
There seems to be a doubt over with Jaimie Clarke has been cleared to play on Sunday. I hear he is definitely out. Have you heard BC?
Nothing definite but don't think he'll play
Quote from: mackers on October 26, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
There seems to be a doubt over with Jaimie Clarke has been cleared to play on Sunday. I hear he is definitely out. Have you heard BC?
Definitely out Cross have decided not to go to DRA. Won't matter Cross at home too win by 2. Don't listen to BC1 same oul Cross BS!! :) Croke's if they beat Nemo look a sure bet for the AI though, very impressed with the style of football in the Kerry final against Stacks.
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round Replay
Corduff Gaels 1-10 Killyman St Marys 0-07
TYRONE champions Killyman crashed out of the provincial title race when they lost to Corduff of Monaghan in their Ulster Club JFC preliminary round replay at Pairc Grattan, Inniskeen on Sunday.
Corduff started slowly and they found themselves trailing by three points by the time they got off the mark in the 16th minute. They turned the game on its head in the second quarter, however, as they hit 1-6 without reply to take control. The sides shared eight points in the second half, as Corduff eased through.
Killyman played the last ten minutes with 14 men after Edward Holland was shown a straight red card and he was followed by his team-mate Paul McVeigh and Corduff's Shane McNally Jnr., who both picked up second bookings in the final minute of normal time.
The only goal of the game was a clinically-taken finish just before half-time from Keith McEnaney, who had also found the net in the drawn game a week earlier.
McEnaney and Brendan McNally were on form up front for Corduff, while Declan Larkin was his usual industrious and effective presence at centre half-back and Ciarán Brennan and Gerry Mee impressed in the full-back line. Corner-forwards Enda McGahan and Michael Donnelly led the way for Killyman, who also had hard-working performances from Ciarán Óg Hughes and Kieran Gates.
Like in the drawn game, Killyman made the better start and Enda McGahan opened the scoring with a good point from play after just over a minute. 20-metre frees by McGahan and Michael Donnelly, after fouls on Ryan McKenna and Ciarán Óg Hughes, gave Killyman a three-point lead, before Corduff took charge with 1-7 in a row. Brendan McNally eventually got the Monaghan men's first score when he sent over after good work by Raymond Byrne, Cathal Connolly and Martin Mills.
Keith McEnaney added a point for Corduff after a good break out of defence by full-back Ciarán Brennan and they edged ahead for the first time through close-range frees by Raymond Byrne and Brendan McNally, following fouls on Keith and Christopher McEnaney. Brendan McNally kicked a fine score from play, after he had been well-placed by Ciarán Brennan, before Corduff got the game's only goal in the 30th minute when Christopher McEnaney and Brendan McNally combined well to set-up Keith McEnaney for a precise finish which left Killyman keeper Patrick O'Hagan with no chance.
Byrne added a point from a 30-metre free, after Kieran Gates had been penalised for a throw ball, to give Corduff a six-point lead at half-time: 1-06 to 0-03.
Corduff almost had the ball in the net just three minutes after the restart, but Martin Mills was unlucky to see a cracking shot crash off the post, before Christopher McEnaney sent a shot over, via the left upright. Enda McGahan ended 25 scoreless minutes for Killyman when he sent one over after a one-two with Donnelly, before Christopher McEnaney sliced well wide from a great goal chance, created by a quick free from Shane Connolly.
Pauric Gollogly won and scored a 25-metre free to restore Corduff's seven-point cushion and Byrne increased that further when he tapped over a 13-metre free for a foul on Mills. Killyman almost got a lifeline when Corduff 'keeper Darren Byrne spilled possession in front of his goals, but his blushes were saved by his corner-back Ben Woods, who made a brave block to deny Ryan McKenna a certain goal.
Killyman's chances received a further setback 10 minutes from time when Edward Holland was shown a straight red card for a high tackle on Shane McNally Jnr. Killyman did manage a couple of consolation scores, as Michael Donnelly kicked a fine point off the outside of his boot and Enda McGahan converted a '45, before both sides had a man sent off in the final minute of normal time. Shane McNally Jnr was shown a second yellow for a foul on Cathal McAliskey and he was quickly followed by Killyman midfielder Paul McVeigh, who got a second booking after an off-the-ball incident.
Ciarán Óg Hughes linked up with Donnelly to kick a point for Killyman in injury-time, but Gollogly got on the end of a pass from sub Shane Malone to seal Corduff's win and book their place in next Sunday's quarter-final against Donegal junior champions Naomh Colmcille, Newtowncunningham.
Corduff: Darren Byrne; Ben Woods, Ciarán Brennan, Gerry Mee (Capt.); Shane McNally Jnr., Declan Larkin, Gareth King; Cathal Connolly, Shane Connolly; Pauric Gollogly (0-2, 1f), Christopher McEnaney (0-1), Martin Mills; Keith McEnaney (1-1), Raymond Byrne (0-3f), Brendan McNally (0-3, 1f).
Subs: Ciarán Malone for Mee (inj., 46 mins), Shane Malone for Mills (56).
Temporary Sub: Shane McNally Snr. for King (26-28).
Killyman: Patrick O'Hagan; Kieran McGahan, Kieran Gates, Declan McAlinden; Gerard Hughes, Seán Hughes (Capt.), Declan Boyle; Paul McVeigh, Ciarán Óg Hughes (0-1); Edward Holland, Conor Boyle, Ryan Hughes; Michael Donnelly (0-2, 1f), Ryan McKenna, Enda McGahan (0-4, 1f, 1 '45).
Subs: Cathal McAliskey for K McGahan (29), Maurice Devlin for G Hughes (42).
Referee: Gavin Corrigan (Down).
As a monaghan man who has followed a lot of club football, i'd like to see the Donegal side Naomh Conaill taste success this weekend ;D
Does anyone know when the semi's are fixed for?
What's the story with Coalisland down to play a 'home' game in Omagh and their field a county park or watever. Didn't Clonoe not play in Coalisland's field two years ago in the first round? Roslea wud be a shorter journey to Omagh than Coalsiland would so is hardly a home game!
Quote from: trileacman on October 27, 2010, 10:53:03 PM
Does anyone know when the semi's are fixed for?
Semi: 14th November
Final: 28th November
Quote from: trileacman on October 27, 2010, 10:53:03 PM
Does anyone know when the semi's are fixed for?
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Sunday October 17th
Cavan v Donegal (Cavan venue)
Quarter Finals:
Hallow'een - Yahoo!
Armagh v Antrim (Armagh venue)
Down v Derry (Down venue)
Tyrone v Fermanagh (Tyrone venue)
Monaghan v Cavan or Donegal (Monaghan v Cavan - Monaghan venue. Monaghan v Donegal - Donegal venue)
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Quote from: longrunsthefox on October 27, 2010, 11:04:27 PM
What's the story with Coalisland down to play a 'home' game in Omagh and their field a county park or watever. Didn't cLonoe not play in Coalisland's field two years ago in the first round? Roslea wud be a shorter journey to Omagh than Coalsiland would so is hardly a home game!
yeah Clonoe played Leteerkenny there 2 years ago. It's a nominated county ground so it should be allowed.
Silly rule, this county ground crap. Castledawson are playing Rasharkin this weekend in the Intermed Football C'ship. Grounds are a 15 min drive apart, if even, and the match is in CASEMENT.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: Joxer on October 26, 2010, 09:19:50 AM
See the Irish News are saying this morning that John Mac is back in the Cross fold. A massive boost for them. Also they were saying betting for the game is 6/4 Cross v St Galls 8/11.
Bullshit, not happening. IN filling space again with speculation.
The Irish TImes reporting also - I'll believe BC, that man would know
Quote from: stephenite on October 28, 2010, 06:38:17 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: Joxer on October 26, 2010, 09:19:50 AM
See the Irish News are saying this morning that John Mac is back in the Cross fold. A massive boost for them. Also they were saying betting for the game is 6/4 Cross v St Galls 8/11.
Bullshit, not happening. IN filling space again with speculation.
The Irish TImes reporting also - I'll believe BC, that man would know
You would think so wouldn't you :P
I go the other way and if it is true shows how worried they are about the game. ;)
Rangers will have the Gall
CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS v ST. GALLS
On their return to the big stage after a twelve months absence Crossmaglen Rangers could not have been handed a more daunting task than facing defending Ulster and All-Ireland St Gall's. These two clubs have become the model of consistancy within their respective with St Gall's recent 2-10 to 0-11 win over Cargin giving them their ninth McNamee Cup in 10 years with Rangers 1-11 to 1-08 defeat of Dromintee making it 14 out of 15 titles in Armagh..
When record seeking Crossmaglen were denied by Pearse Óg in last year's Armagh championship the road to Sunday's showpiece looked a long way down the line especially given the already well documented retirements of key personnel. One of those retirees Tony McEntee took up the management reigns with former team mate Gareth O'Neill as assistant. Just like back in 1996 at the beginning of unprecedented success for the club Cross were at the crossroads, no championship for a decade, and a different footballing approach, away from their traditional catch and kick style, was embarked upon.
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An opening day struggle against Sarsfields was frowned upon by the traditionalists but look what it went on to lead to. Last year's retirements robbed Rangers of some of their main attributes, physicality, ball winners, natural leaders who led by example and deed. But it did not rob them of key ingredients to their phenomenal success, self belief, a will to win, selfless commitment and sacrifice to embellish the insatiable hunger for success which has never diminished no matter what has been achieved but the most important attribute lest a lot of people forget which is key to Crossmaglen Rangers rise to the number one club in the country, is talent.
While Cross face a daunting prospect in what their manager describes as bonus territory, champions St Gall's could have thought of a lot more places to come to than St Oliver Plunkett Park for an opening defence of their provincial and All-Ireland crown. Last March in their centenary year St Gall's beat Kilmurray-Ibrickane 0-13 to 1-05 to win their first All-Ireland title and make up for the disappointment of losing to Salthill-Knocknacarra in the final in 2006.
One would expect, given the recent records of both clubs, that they would have crossed paths more times than their 2007 Ulster final meeting in Pairc Eslar, Newry. The Antrim Champions in their fourth Ulster final, were installed as favourites for that match having lost the All-Ireland and Cross struggling to wins over Clontibret and Dromore to reach the final. The once dubbed "ultimate football machine" from the Milltown area of Belfast were beaten 1-09 to 1-06 by the "Mean Machine" which was Rangers defence. In a role reversal from that one meeting between the teams Cross are about where Gall's were then with the current title holders in Rangers position.
It is worth noting that four Cross minors prior to that Ulster final between Sunday's rivals were added to the panel namely Danny O'Callaghan, Francis Hanratty, Aaron Cunningham and Jamie Clarke. With the exception of the suspended Jamie the other 3 played key roles in winning back the Armagh championship in 2010. In the Co. final win over Dromintee Rangers used a total of 13 players Paul Hearty, Stephen Finnegan, Paul Kernan, Aaron Kernan, Paul McKeown, David McKenna, Mickey McNamee, Martin Aherne, Tony Kernan , Johnny Hanratty, Oisin McConville Subs used- Stephen Kernan and Kyle Carragher who had seen action against St Gall's in Newry. The Man of the Match from the Co Final, Francie Bellew, was an injured absentee for that 2007 final.
CJ McGourty who scored 2-5 in the Co final win over Cargin came on as a sub against Cross in the Marshes final but 12 more of his team mates Ronan Gallagher, Paul Veronican, Colin Brady, Terry O'Neill, Sean Kelly, Anthony Healy, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher, Karl Stewart, Kevin Niblock, Kieran McGourty and Kevin McGourty who also featured against Cross were active in the completion of 4 in a row Antrim championships.
Manager Lenny Harbison will be the first to acknowledge that his charges have not ignited on the way to retaining their county title That second half two goal burst from CJ McGourty in the final with Cargin allowed them to coast home after a tight first half which saw them lead 0-07 to 0-05. Sunday is a classic encounter with the new kids on the block in terms of defending Ulster and Provincial titles in St Gall's taking on past masters of the art in Crossmaglen Rangers
This "new Rangers team" have written their own piece of history by claiming a national record of 38 senior football titles and will be more able to express themselves as it is seldom that they go into matches as underdogs. All -Ireland champions Gall's are joint 5/1 favourites to retain their title and 6/4 to win Ulster. Sunday will be their biggest test and they will have to be firing on all cylinders if they are to clear the first hurdle.
The big worry for Rangers management is how to get more possession at midfield. Cross cannot continue to give huge sway at midfield and hope that their defence can hold out on a continual basis. Johnny Hanratty had probably his best hour in a Cross jersey working tirelessy all over the field blocking , harrying and fetching. Injury plagued partner David McKenna is lacking consistancy of performance. In terms of clean possession it was veteran second half substitute Francie Bellew who gave an exhibition of high catching plucking some super ball out of the sky none more important than the midfield fetch after Dromintee had drawn level. County minor last year James Morgan has slotted into the full back line alongside team captain Paul McKeown and full back Paul Kernan with aplomb with his man marking ability already noted.
New centre half back Danny O'Callaghan is warming to his task even though he can lose his positional sense at times he tackles and grafts well as he adopts to his new position. Aaron Kernan, back in defence, since operating in the forwards for the county is no where near close to his best this year. Still his capabilities and match winning performances can return in an instant. Stephen Finnegan has found it hard to make his position in the team permanent not pushing on from the promise shown a few years ago. Martin Aherne, who has yet to reach the high standards achieved pre injury, looked comfortable when brought into the half back line against Dromintee. A fit again and available for selection of Brendan McKeown will add a lot to Rangers rearguard options. If the talented but volatile CJ McGourty can be curbed the Gall's scoring threat is severely diminished
Centre forward, Stephen Kernan has been his side's most consistent performer all year. His vision in setting up scores as well as taking them has seen him lead the line well for Cross in an attack that has been minus the services of Oisin McConville and Jamie Clarke for key matches. Clarke will again be an absentee on Sunday due to suspension. Francis Hanratty is another with the ability to win matches, he took his goal superbly well in the Co final and can be deemed a little unlucky to be called ashore, although that could have been because of the loss of vital posession once too often. Mickey McNamee, Tony Kernan and Aaron Cunningham have all had better days out than in the County final but they worked very hard and put in their stint in the collective which is Cross and on any given day they are potential match winners. The return from suspension of Oisin was the calming and steadying influence that Cross needed. The veteran attacker finished with 0-4 to his credit and a huge part in the goal, spotting the loose Hanratty while surrounded by defenders. But opening scores for his team in either half were the ones which brought assurance. St Gall's will also remember his 1-5 contribution in their defeat.
The big question for Cross management is what to do with their super subs who made a huge impact when introduced. Francie was selected Man of the Match, Kyle Carragher fired over 3 match winning points and Martin Aherne was very effective in defence. The biggest fillip this Rangers squad will have received is that by winning back the county title the comparisons can stop. They have earned their own niche in the clubs chequered history the comparisons with what has gone before can now be cast aside. The 2010 Crossmaglen Rangers County Champions are the beginning of a new era for the club. A new dawn , new horizons, new players winning a first senior championship medal, one thing that you can be guaranteed is that their pedigree decrees that there will be more to come. The step up alone in terms of discipline for Cross from the semi-final to the final was immense.
For sure no one will be under any illusions that Crossmaglen Rangers will have the gall to defeat the champions. This current Rangers team is a lot better than people are giving them credit for as Sunday's result will testify.
After reading that I know where my money is going.............
BC1 wrote that
I have a sneaky feeling Cross will win this.
St Galls are ball carriers. They'll get hit and hit hard and this will grind them down. McKeown is a good man marker and will give CJ his fill of it which will negate the fast ball in too.
Being from antrim I hope I'm wrong mind...
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
After reading that I know where my money is going.............
Why, were you even considering putting money on Cross?
Quote from: lolafrola on October 28, 2010, 12:20:43 PM
BC1 wrote that
I would do a better one than that, that's far too complimentary of Cross!!!!
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2010, 10:48:18 AM
If they have to bring back the like of McEntee, they're more fcuked than I thought.
Galls will walk this.
You would think so, wouldn't you.
Talk of Cross hitting Galls hard may have been true 2-3 yrs ago. From what I gather this Cross side are a shower of lily-livered buttercups.
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2010, 04:10:34 PM
Talk of Cross hitting Galls hard may have been true 2-3 yrs ago. From what I gather this Cross side are a shower of lily-livered buttercups.
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Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2010, 04:10:34 PM
Talk of Cross hitting Galls hard may have been true 2-3 yrs ago. From what I gather this Cross side are a shower of lily-livered buttercups.
How many Ulster Senior Championships have Tyrone Clubs won, remind? 1 is it?
Wrong.
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2010, 04:20:48 PM
Wrong.
Beg your pardon Errigal won 2, Cross on their own have 7,
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 28, 2010, 04:40:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2010, 04:20:48 PM
Wrong.
Beg your pardon Errigal won 2, Cross on their own have 7,
You've just lost your own argument. If you had said how many Tyrone clubs have won Ulster championships then you would be right.
will be making my way to cross on sunday and i think cross by a point or 2.not many teams go there and come away with a win and for some one to say cross are f**ked if they have to bring back j mac,well they obviously dont know much about john mac or football in general, you can be sure since his retirement he would not have been sitting on his sofa eating fish suppers and watching reruns of only fools and horses!
the standard that he set as a player means he wouldnt come back if he thought he wasnt up to it so if he does make a return then i would be confident he will more than do himself and more importantly cross justice.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 28, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
After reading that I know where my money is going.............
Why, were you even considering putting money on Cross?
Quote from: lolafrola on October 28, 2010, 12:20:43 PM
BC1 wrote that
I would do a better one than that, that's far too complimentary of Cross!!!!
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2010, 10:48:18 AM
If they have to bring back the like of McEntee, they're more fcuked than I thought.
Galls will walk this.
You would think so, wouldn't you.
I jest BC1, my money is going on the club. I might even go for us -1
Boys are training hard and injuries are clearing up, as you'd expect, so it will be down to who wants it the most
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2010, 07:46:30 PM
Boys are training hard and injuries are clearing up, as you'd expect, so it will be down to who wants it the most
Yes to a point but with it going to be wet and very windy by weather forecasts a lot will depend on who adjusts to the weather the quickest. Still think there will be 2 points in it with the winning team getting 12 scores.
Cross are bet of the year this weekend!
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 28, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
When was the last time cross werent favourites for a game they played??
Quote from: The Worker on October 28, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 28, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
When was the last time cross werent favourites for a game they played??
Honest answer, I'd say the 2007 Ulster final against Galls was close in the betting, but the last time they were definitely underdogs was probably the 2000 All Ireland against Na Fianna.
This is different though in the sense that Cross have never played reigning All Ireland champions before.
I'm not sure what the point is anyway - that if they're odds against, they have to be punted?
Coalisland are up in arms at the game being played in Omagh. They think it's the work of a disgruntled County Board. Clonoe played their 08 game against St Eunans in Coalisland in and the ground has been improved since. I don't see why Coalisland shouldn't get their game in it this year.
Aye seems to be bad feeling between them and county board because they haven't signed up to Gervaghey project and they were given no club champiohsp games this year for not 'co-operating' on Gervaghey.
Good to see McEntee coming back, not much seems to be made of the loss of Cross' stand out forward this year in Jamie Clarke, massive setback. Still think they will come through with the result.
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 29, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: The Worker on October 28, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 28, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
When was the last time cross werent favourites for a game they played??
Honest answer, I'd say the 2007 Ulster final against Galls was close in the betting, but the last time they were definitely underdogs was probably the 2000 All Ireland against Na Fianna.
This is different though in the sense that Cross have never played reigning All Ireland champions before.
I'm not sure what the point is anyway - that if they're odds against, they have to be punted?
They went into that 2000 final as All Ireland champions though so couldn't have been too long odds.
Remember that match well - the day 2 Cullyhanna men played on different sides in an All Ireland final.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 29, 2010, 11:46:13 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 29, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: The Worker on October 28, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 28, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
When was the last time cross werent favourites for a game they played??
Honest answer, I'd say the 2007 Ulster final against Galls was close in the betting, but the last time they were definitely underdogs was probably the 2000 All Ireland against Na Fianna.
This is different though in the sense that Cross have never played reigning All Ireland champions before.
I'm not sure what the point is anyway - that if they're odds against, they have to be punted?
They went into that 2000 final as All Ireland champions though so couldn't have been too long odds.
Remember that match well - the day 2 Cullyhanna men played on different sides in an All Ireland final.
they were about fairly solid favs at about the 4/7 mark for ulster in 07 I mind right, I expected the upset that day tbh.
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 29, 2010, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 29, 2010, 11:46:13 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 29, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: The Worker on October 28, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 28, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
When was the last time cross werent favourites for a game they played??
Honest answer, I'd say the 2007 Ulster final against Galls was close in the betting, but the last time they were definitely underdogs was probably the 2000 All Ireland against Na Fianna.
This is different though in the sense that Cross have never played reigning All Ireland champions before.
I'm not sure what the point is anyway - that if they're odds against, they have to be punted?
They went into that 2000 final as All Ireland champions though so couldn't have been too long odds.
Remember that match well - the day 2 Cullyhanna men played on different sides in an All Ireland final.
they were about fairly solid favs at about the 4/7 mark for ulster in 07 I mind right, I expected the upset that day tbh.
Technically 3 Cullyhanna men :P and 2 cousins against each other!
A late change to TG4's GAA Beo schedule for this weekend.
The Crossmaglen v St. Gall's match will be televised live at 2:30pm (transmission starts at 2pm), and will be followed by the Tipperary hurling final.
Ar Aer 2:00
2:30 i.n. Raonaithe na Croise v Naomh Gall (Cluiche Ceathrú Ceannais Peile Uladh - Craobh Club AIB)
4:10 i.n. Na Sairséalaigh Dúrlas Éile v Cluain Abhla/An Ros Mór (Cluiche Ceannais Iomána Thiobraid Árann)
excellent, i was going to drive down to cross, think i'll watch it on the box now instead
Drive down ya Bollix, should be a better game live at Cross. Wet and windy day forecasted, our lads are fairly built now. what about the younger Cross lads, are they made for winter football yet?
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 29, 2010, 11:46:13 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 29, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: The Worker on October 28, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on October 28, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
No team could ever be "bet of the year" in a tight game between two proven clubs and with the draw such a strong possibility. Enjoy the game but don't go nuts punting this one.
When was the last time cross werent favourites for a game they played??
Honest answer, I'd say the 2007 Ulster final against Galls was close in the betting, but the last time they were definitely underdogs was probably the 2000 All Ireland against Na Fianna.
This is different though in the sense that Cross have never played reigning All Ireland champions before.
I'm not sure what the point is anyway - that if they're odds against, they have to be punted?
They went into that 2000 final as All Ireland champions though so couldn't have been too long odds.
Remember that match well - the day 2 Cullyhanna men played on different sides in an All Ireland final.
It wouldn't have been very long odds but there was a lot of money for Na Fianna that day. I wasn't long in Paddy Powers but I remember a big fuss about holding the line against the tide even though everybody wanted a piece of the Glasnevin All Stars.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2010, 12:28:58 PM
Drive down ya Bollix, should be a better game live at Cross. Wet and windy day forecasted, our lads are fairly built now. what about the younger Cross lads, are they made for winter football yet?
The short answer to that would be no imo. The younger lads wouldn't be fit for the muck and gutters and although the Crossmaglen surface is excellent, the younger lads need the dry sod. I couldn't see the likes of Kyle Carragher, the Kernans, Franny Hanratty having the same effect on a crappy day that is forecast for Sunday.
What is the Gervaghey porject? Disgrace they are not allowed to play on their home ground considering Cross are playing in cross on sunday. Looks rediculous
It's about securing the next century
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Honest answers please. I have never been to Crossmaglen and I would only read of it in newspapers, tv programmes or sung in songs by republicans on St Patrick's Day. I know it's known ass bandit country throughout Ireland. What I want to know is, how dangerous is it? I might be bringing 3-4 U18s from Bredagh to it and will they need to be on their guard at all times walking though it? I asked this in the clubrooms and they said that there's boys sitting in the mountains watching everyone come and go. It is also halloween night which might add to the carnage. Is it safe to do so?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2010, 12:28:58 PM
Drive down ya Bollix, should be a better game live at Cross. Wet and windy day forecasted, our lads are fairly built now. what about the younger Cross lads, are they made for winter football yet?
They'll glide like swans whilst your big aul heavy wans will sink to the oxters :D
Quote from: Olly on October 29, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
Honest answers please. I have never been to Crossmaglen and I would only read of it in newspapers, tv programmes or sung in songs by republicans on St Patrick's Day. I know it's known ass bandit country throughout Ireland. What I want to know is, how dangerous is it? I might be bringing 3-4 U18s from Bredagh to it and will they need to be on their guard at all times walking though it? I asked this in the clubrooms and they said that there's boys sitting in the mountains watching everyone come and go. It is also halloween night which might add to the carnage. Is it safe to do so?
As long as yez aren't Brits ye'll be fine.....I hope!!! 8) (imagine the smiley has a Beret)
Why would I be renting Brits? I'm not an effing pervert. I haven't rented them U18s if that's what you're insinuating.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2010, 07:46:30 PM
I jest BC1, my money is going on the club. I might even go for us -1
Galls - 1, Roslea + 3 ??
Quote from: Olly on October 29, 2010, 04:09:51 PM
Why would I be renting Brits? I'm not an effing pervert. I haven't rented them U18s if that's what you're insinuating.
Look you have to use a bit of imagination when reading my posts, typing isn't really my thing, I meant aren't, but hey if your into kinky stuff who am I to criticise
QuoteHonest answers please. I have never been to Crossmaglen and I would only read of it in newspapers, tv programmes or sung in songs by republicans on St Patrick's Day. I know it's known ass bandit country throughout Ireland. What I want to know is, how dangerous is it?
Cross is full of rulyas of all sorts. It would be a bit of craic for the Bredagh crowd, sure they don't live at all there in Castlereagh.
Sunday will be mostly cloudy with rain over Leinster, Munster and part of south Connaught, mainly dry in Ulster and north Connaught. The rain will be heavy in the south leading possibly to localized floodingThe weather might be decent enough. I think Cross' may regret the loss of Jamie Clark as he could have slotted over the extra point or two needed to win against the Galls.
What time is Throw in?
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 31, 2010, 11:13:37 AM
What time is Throw in?
All club championship matchesare 2 30pm I believe
all games fixed for 2-30, about to leave, so excited ;D ;D
Dunno who I would like to see win, looking forward to a good game
Does anyone know if there is a game on before the Cross - Galls game
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) 1-12 Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) 1-12 After Extra Time
Full Time: Killyman St Marys 1-09 Corduff Gaels 1-09
Preliminary Round Replay
Corduff Gaels 1-10 Killyman St Marys 0-07
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Swanlinbar St Marys(Cavan) v Ardmore St Marys(Derry)
12-45pm Breffni Park
E McHugh
Maguiresbridge St Marys(Fermanagh) v Drumaness St Colmans(Down)
2-30pm Brewster Park
S McLaughlin
Grange St Colmcilles(Armagh) v Cardinal O'Donnells(Antrim)
12-45pm Crossmaglen
E Corrigan
Corduff Gaels v Newtowncunningham Naomh Colmcille(Donegal)
2-30pm Clones
F Cleary
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Doohamlet O'Neills(Monaghan) 1-12 Bundoran Réalt na Mara(Donegal) 1-10
Quarter Finals:
30-10-10 (Saturday)
Derrytrasna Sarsfields(Armagh) v Doohamlet O'Neills
3-00pm Crossmaglen
S McGonigle
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Tullylish(Down) v Lisnaskea Emmetts(Fermanagh)
2-30pm Páirc Esler
J McKee
Rasharkin St Marys(Antrim) v Castledawson St Malachys(Derry)
12-45pm Casement Park
R O'Donnell
Drumalee(Cavan) v Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys(Tyrone)
2-30pm Breffni Park
C Reynolds
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) 0-11 Naomh Conaill(Donegal) 1-12
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 Sunday
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) v St Galls(Antrim)
2-30pm Crossmaglen
J McQuillan
Coalisland Na Fianna(Tyrone) v Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh)
2-30pm Omagh
C Branagan
Naomh Conaill v Clontibret O'Neills(Monaghan)
2-30pm Ballybofey
M Sludden
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Burren St Marys(Down) v Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry)
2-30pm Páirc Esler
Semi Finals:
Sunday November 14th
Armagh/Antrim v Down/Derry
Tyrone/Fermanagh v Donegal/Monaghan
Final:
Sunday November 28th
So is John Mc Entee back, or was it just a rumour? Francie should be pushing for a start after his county final performance. Looking forward to a good game.
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 31, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
So is John Mc Entee back, or was it just a rumour? Francie should be pushing for a start after his county final performance. Looking forward to a good game.
you'll see when the teams run out on the pitch ;) I don't see there being too many changes to the team that started the County final with maybe Kyle Carragher starting, though Tony Mac may wish to use him, Francie and other "subs" :P for the last 20 minutes to change the game. Should be a good game and as I won't be at it I am looking forward to it in the comfort of my living room with a roaring fire, followed by the Liverpool game ;D
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 31, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
So is John Mc Entee back, or was it just a rumour? Francie should be pushing for a start after his county final performance. Looking forward to a good game.
you'll see when the teams run out on the pitch ;) I don't see there being too many changes to the team that started the County final with maybe Kyle Carragher starting, though Tony Mac may wish to use him, Francie and other "subs" :P for the last 20 minutes to change the game. Should be a good game and as I won't be at it I am looking forward to it in the comfort of my living room with a roaring fire, followed by the Liverpool game ;D
Ha ha same as myself minus the fire but i have the heat up full blast!
The three Cs for me today
0-3 to 0-1 to Cross
If St Galls contimue to give away frees , they won't win this game
Naomh Conaill 0-01 Clontibret O'Neills 0-02
Clontibret save another penalty.
0-5 to 0-1 to Cross
This is looking ominous for St Galls
Quote from: glens73 on October 31, 2010, 02:40:42 PM
0-3 to 0-1 to Cross
If St Galls contimue to give away frees , they won't win this game
5 -1 now - not like St Galls to foul.
Galls no right sided free taker ??
CJ going for top scorer ?
What a hit!!!
0-6 0-3. Good game so far.
A hard won Armagh championship may give Cross the edge here.
Is there a strong wind at the cross game?
The ref likes this whistle.
Cross working seriously hard. Need a score or two like that one outside 50 metres for wobbler!!!
Karl Stewart red card - game over I'd say!
Galls are in the rack. I can't see a team like Cross letting them off the hook.
Stewart red card.
Naomh Conaill 0-04 Clontibret O'Neills 0-05
why do st galls persist with that bad hurler at wing forward...he wouldnt get a kick in a stampede!!!
Had a feeling he wouldn't see the end of teh game. Cross need to be careful and not get onvolved so that the ref can even it out.
Quote from: glens73 on October 31, 2010, 02:54:23 PM
Karl Stewart red card - game over I'd say!
All over bar the shouting.
Can the 14 v 15 factor comne into play now ?.
Cross have Galls upset.
Straight red!!
Cross corner-back off, 2 yellows in less than a minute
Joe is at risk of losing the plot.
Stupid inexperienced red.
Penalty!
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 02:57:41 PM
Joe is at risk of losing the plot.
Correction.
Joe has lost the plot.
You'd think he'd be a bit more careful straight after a yellow card.
The ref was delighted to even it up.
Cúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúl
Get in there!!!
Cross penalty and goal, Gall's are not doing themselves any favours
This is some viewing!!
Naomh Conaill 0-05 Clontibret O'Neills 0-05
St Galls are getting too involved. They won't beat Cross at this.
Ref losing it. Cross need to be sensible about it. Francie and John Mac to settle things in 2nd half.
Quote from: glens73 on October 31, 2010, 03:00:29 PM
St Galls are getting too involved. They won't beat Cross at this.
The game is over.
Brutal display of refereeing, this ref is a homer is ever there was one. St Galls are poor though and deserve to be behind in a very poor game. Cross are the experts at grinding it out though and this game is over.
Joe McQuillan is a poor excuse for a ref. Ruining what could have been a v good game
That Cross lad in the tracksuit would want to cop on and stay off the pitch.
Naomh Conaill 0-07 Clontibret O'Neills 0-05
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 31, 2010, 03:01:26 PM
Joe McQuillan is a poor excuse for a ref. Ruining what could have been a v good game
:D
Yellows, reds, confetti.
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2010, 03:00:49 PM
Never a penalty!
What game are you watching,the st galls number 7 didnt even llok at the ball,clear taking the man out of it
What's the chances of this finishing with 14 men each? Would mceneaney not have been the man to ref this today instead of that dung he was reffing at last night?
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2010, 03:00:49 PM
Never a penalty!
Yiour opinion which means feck all today! St galls are trying a stupid thing by getting involved. Could deal with that all day.
The other Cross corner back lucky not to get red for a neck high tackle
Mc Keown lucky not to get red considering the way the ref has been dishing them out.
Action packed.
Francie on.
Quote from: The Worker on October 28, 2010, 07:56:31 PM
Cross are bet of the year this weekend!
hope some of you lads had the balls to believe me!
Good game so far IMO, plenty of drama. Ref handing cards out like sweets. McConville and AK playing great, big McKenna throwing his weight about as well. McNamee is showing well but will prob get curly finger cos he's missed a few.
Danny O'Callaghan won't come out for second half. You would imagine St Gall's would have a right footed free taker. Is Gallagher afraid to take them these days? Better team winning. St Gall's can't cope with the workrate.
Cossmaglen are muck savages and that is before Bellew comes on. Referee is a disgrace. How does Cross always gets monaghan or Cavan referees?
update coalisland game?
Good stuff so far, only one team in it so far. Mc Conville giving an exhibition at the frees. Francie in now to close up the shop. As for the penalty no question about it. Galls man never even looked at the ball. Hanratty in the middle giving out some hard hits.
Quote from: Jinxy on October 31, 2010, 03:01:39 PM
That Cross lad in the tracksuit would want to cop on and stay off the pitch.
No harm if he got sent off. Pure tr**p. Always was won't change now
Can't see D O Callaghan or M McNamee coming out for second half.
I'd hazard that St Galls haven't been hit so hard in a game for some time, Cross are getting seriously stuck into them. To be fair to the referee it's a brusing affair with hard hitting tackles. You'd think this was Tyrone the way it's being ref'd though.
Great to see such a physical affair all the same.
McConville economical as ever up front, NcNamee as ever looks busy but always want to shoot on sight, Aaron Kernan having his best game in a long while. Other than that its pure workrate that has Cross in the driving seat. Morgan showed his inexperience getting 2 yellows in a minute and can have no complaints. Sean Kelly is the best player on the field but is about the only St Galls player that can take any credit for the 1st half display. Where is Kevin McGourty?
Entertaining viewing. Although i'm not sure McQuillan is as bad as people are saying - there are a lot of fairly ruthless 'challenges' going on in there. And the pentalty call was sopt on. The second red was clearly the player's fault.
Quote from: holylandsniper on October 31, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on October 31, 2010, 03:01:39 PM
That Cross lad in the tracksuit would want to cop on and stay off the pitch.
No harm if he got sent off. Pure tr**p. Always was won't change now
Can't see D O Callaghan or M McNamee coming out for second half.
Who's at that?
Quote from: holylandsniper on October 31, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on October 31, 2010, 03:01:39 PM
That Cross lad in the tracksuit would want to cop on and stay off the pitch.
No harm if he got sent off. Pure tr**p. Always was won't change now
Can't see D O Callaghan or M McNamee coming out for second half.
f**k off you p***k!
is francie standing in full forward there?
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2010, 03:16:34 PM
Stewart only got one yellow.
What was he sent off for ???
Francie the target man!!! He is a natural!
TK playing very well.
Naomh Conaill 0-09 Clontibret O'Neills 0-05
St Gall's were very poor in the first half, although the Cross corner back should certainly have got a straight red for the high tackle just before the break. It will be a big surprise if it ends with 14-a-side.
In case anyone took seriously the previous post from Olly about a discussion with Bredagh minor players in the clubrooms about the dangers of going to Crossmaglen, a couple of small points. Bredagh do not have clubrooms, and their minor season ended a couple of months ago.
Goal for Roslea.
Coalisland 1-5 1-4 Roslea
AK working an unreal amount. Playing really well. No goals against and we win.
Good man Francie!
Quote from: Mourne Rover on October 31, 2010, 03:21:15 PM
St Gall's were very poor in the first half, although the Cross corner back should certainly have got a straight red for the high tackle just before the break. It will be a big surprise if it ends with 14-a-side.
In case anyone took seriously the previous post from Olly about a discussion with Bredagh minor players in the clubrooms about the dangers of going to Crossmaglen, a couple of small points. Bredagh do not have clubrooms, and their minor season ended a couple of months ago.
It's well established at this stage that referees will only give a yellow for high challenges.
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave
great save!! francie off the hook lol...now done like he was shot to kill any momentum st galls have :) LEGEND
Some game!
Fine save, who said big keepers can't get down!
Naomh Conaill 0-09 Clontibret O'Neills 0-07
Naomh Conaill 0-09 Clontibret O'Neills 0-08
All square in Omagh
Coalisland 1-5 1-5 Roslea.
Hanratty acting the b****x again thinking he's Rambo to try and cover up his deficiencies as a footballer.
Naomh Conaill 0-10 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
Has somoeone had a wee word with Joe at half time to calm the head and stop dishing out the cards.
We've had 10 minutes of the second half with some very poor,cynical tackles in particular from Cross but no cards. Has he decided to let it flow now ?.
Quote from: yellowcard on October 31, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Hanratty acting the b****x again thinking he's Rambo to try and cover up his deficiencies as a footballer.
lol what did he do on you,must took your woman one night maybe
Naomh Conaill 0-10 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
Naomh Conaill 1-10 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
Cross have squeezed the life out of Galls.
Winning point from McKenna.
Roslea take the lead, but rapid equaliser by Toner.
Coalisland 1-6 1-6 Roslea.
Quote from: yellowcard on October 31, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Hanratty acting the b****x again thinking he's Rambo to try and cover up his deficiencies as a footballer.
Steal you milk money?? You're some bollix!
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Cross have squeezed the life out of Galls.
No they have just played better.
Francies cameo over!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 31, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Hanratty acting the b****x again thinking he's Rambo to try and cover up his deficiencies as a footballer.
Steal you milk money?? You're some bollix!
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Cross have squeezed the life out of Galls.
No they have just played better.
Cross have been magnificent.
Let the recrimnations beging now for Galls.
Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on October 31, 2010, 03:33:18 PM
Roslea take the lead, but rapid equaliser by Toner.
Coalisland 1-6 1-6 Roslea.
Any more updates?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 31, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Hanratty acting the b****x again thinking he's Rambo to try and cover up his deficiencies as a footballer.
Steal you milk money?? You're some bollix!
Chilll out, just pointing out that if he's not mowing down opponents he's not contributing very much in footballing terms, i don't even know the fella other than seeing him on the field.
No doubt Cross will be hard to beat on this peformance today and they will be worthy favourites after today. The far hungrier team won.
There's hope for me when Darren O'Hare comes on!!
John Mac, legend!!!!
Great all round team performance but would give man of the match to aroan kernan,kept driving them on the whole way through the game
Naomh Conaill 1-11 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
6 min to go
how did i convince myself that st galls could win today??
Delighted to see that point go over for John Mc.
Class act.
Naomh Conaill 1-12 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 03:30:24 PM
Has somoeone had a wee word with Joe at half time to calm the head and stop dishing out the cards.
We've had 10 minutes of the second half with some very poor,cynical tackles in particular from Cross but no cards. Has he decided to let it flow now ?.
Game nearly over - no cards in the 2nd half ?? Surely not ?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 31, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Hanratty acting the b****x again thinking he's Rambo to try and cover up his deficiencies as a footballer.
Steal you milk money?? You're some bollix!
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Cross have squeezed the life out of Galls.
Well he is from Crossmaglen, would have to be involved in some criminal activity.
No they have just played better.
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 03:45:38 PM
Quote from: orangeman on October 31, 2010, 03:30:24 PM
Has somoeone had a wee word with Joe at half time to calm the head and stop dishing out the cards.
We've had 10 minutes of the second half with some very poor,cynical tackles in particular from Cross but no cards. Has he decided to let it flow now ?.
Game nearly over - no cards in the 2nd half ?? Surely not ?
1 yellow in the 59th minute.
MOM Oisin
Cúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúl
in injury time.
Straight red!!!
Coalisland 1-10 1-7 Roslea
Naomh Conaill 1-12 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
Quote from: RMDrive on October 31, 2010, 03:49:57 PM
Coalisland 1-10 1-7 Roslea
Naomh Conaill 1-12 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
;D
soft red
Naomh Conaill 2-12 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
some outfit!what a team,how can they keep doing it?
Harsh red card IMO.
great result, disappointing that there were 2 reds! AK, TK Titch Oisin were the pick of a bunch of lads who all worked very hard. Well done lads, St Galls had no leaders. Jamie Clarke back for next game will be a bonus.
Typical of CJ over slabbering to Hanratty when he was on the ground. Gobshite.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
great result, disappointing that there were 2 reds! AK, TK Titch Oisin were the pick of a bunch of lads who all worked very hard. Well done lads, St Galls had no leaders. Jamie Clarke back for next game will be a bonus.
Thought Sean Kelly tried his hardest for St Galls but beyond that they looked a beaten team even in the first half. Big favourites for Ulster now I would imagine.
Quote from: RMDrive on October 31, 2010, 03:49:57 PM
Coalisland 1-10 1-7 Roslea
Naomh Conaill 1-12 Clontibret O'Neills 0-09
Is them full times?
hearty had to be man of the match surely
Crossmaglen (Armagh) 1-12 0-09 St Gall's (Antrim), Crossmaglen RESULT
Coalisland (Tyrone) 1-10 1-07 Roslea (Fermanagh), Omagh RESULT
Clontibret (Monaghan) 0-09 2-12 Naomh Conaill (Donegal), Ballybofey RESULT
Quote from: bigfrank on October 31, 2010, 03:58:12 PM
Crossmaglen (Armagh) 1-12 0-09 St Gall’s (Antrim), Crossmaglen RESULT
Coalisland (Tyrone) 1-10 1-07 Roslea (Fermanagh), Omagh RESULT
Clontibret (Monaghan) 0-09 2-12 Naomh Conaill (Donegal), Ballybofey RESULT
Massive result for Naomh Conaill!
Quote from: tyroneboi on October 31, 2010, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
great result, disappointing that there were 2 reds! AK, TK Titch Oisin were the pick of a bunch of lads who all worked very hard. Well done lads, St Galls had no leaders. Jamie Clarke back for next game will be a bonus.
Thought Sean Kelly tried his hardest for St Galls but beyond that they looked a beaten team even in the first half. Big favourites for Ulster now I would imagine.
True as did Niblock and CJ to a point but around the MF Cross dominated particularly on the break ball.
What's the last four match up?
Well done to Cross, happy to see them win but have mixed feelings as I sure as f**k dont want to see the beginning of another dynasty in Armagh!
I cant believe I'm writing this but they'll miss Johnny Hanratty in the next round, they just dont have the same level of physicality that teams of old had and Hanratty (although he saw little of the ball) made a complete nusiance of himself to great effect today.
And BCB ar you sure Jamie's back next round?? I thought he'd only be available if you get to the final. And they are going to need him bigtime, there's him and Oisin up front and little else of genune quality.
Well done to the Grange today as well.
Crossmaglen V Coleraine or Burren
Coalisland V Naomh Conaill
Naomh Conaill supporters still on the pitch.
Quote from: bennydorano on October 31, 2010, 04:08:11 PM
Well done to Cross, happy to see them win but have mixed feelings as I sure as f**k dont want to see the beginning of another dynasty in Armagh!
I cant believe I'm writing this but they'll miss Johnny Hanratty in the next round, they just dont have the same level of physicality that teams of old had and Hanratty (although he saw little of the ball) made a complete nusiance of himself to great effect today.
And BCB ar you sure Jamie's back next round?? I thought he'd only be available if you get to the final. And they are going to need him bigtime, there's him and Oisin up front and little else of genune quality.
Well done to the Grange today as well.
14th November is only 7 weeks since Clarke's red card. Is that the date of the semi-final?
Couldn't get over how poor St Gall's were today. Disappointing defence of their championship. Too long a lay-off after their county championship final?
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
There is never a challenge in Antrim for them though, they are well used to it by now.
Quote from: Overthebar! on October 31, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
Crossmaglen V Coleraine or Burren
Coalisland V Naomh Conaill
I'd imagine Cross will be short priced favs for the title now but that's got a very open look to it.
TAC - I dont know, I'm only repeating something I think Corn said on the Armagh board and you'd imagine he'd do bit of background work!
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
There is never a challenge in Antrim for them though, they are well used to it by now.
As opposed to Cross' passage to this stage I am referring to.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 31, 2010, 04:13:02 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 31, 2010, 04:08:11 PM
Well done to Cross, happy to see them win but have mixed feelings as I sure as f**k dont want to see the beginning of another dynasty in Armagh!
I cant believe I'm writing this but they'll miss Johnny Hanratty in the next round, they just dont have the same level of physicality that teams of old had and Hanratty (although he saw little of the ball) made a complete nusiance of himself to great effect today.
And BCB ar you sure Jamie's back next round?? I thought he'd only be available if you get to the final. And they are going to need him bigtime, there's him and Oisin up front and little else of genune quality.
Well done to the Grange today as well.
14th November is only 7 weeks since Clarke's red card. Is that the date of the semi-final?
Couldn't get over how poor St Gall's were today. Disappointing defence of their championship. Too long a lay-off after their county championship final?
Coulod be right about Jamie, I thought he might be back. St Galls were poor and the fact that they hadn't played competitive football for 5 weeks would also have contributed to the fact that they weren't as sharp as we were today. It was a disappointing way to relinquish their titles but lets face it they didnt meet a team like Cross last year and we are a different breed when it comes to big championship games. Now the next game will be interesting, no Jamie, no Johnny(who I thought did some serious work today in grafting around the middle and compliments Titch very well). If Burren come through they will be confident going into the game.
Which one of them McGourtys is the lad we're always told is a superstar?
Quote from: Jinxy on October 31, 2010, 04:45:12 PM
Which one of them McGourtys is the lad we're always told is a superstar?
It could be either Kevin or CJ.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 04:27:01 PM
If Burren come through they will be confident going into the game.
coleraine would roll over and die
Quote from: whiskeysteve on October 31, 2010, 05:03:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 04:27:01 PM
If Burren come through they will be confident going into the game.
coleraine would roll over and die
I don't know anything about Coleraine so they are a complete unknown. If they beat Burren then they will need to be respected. I am simply working on the basis that Burren's tradition will make them a tough proposition.
coleraine have a tradition of surfing that has to be respected. and a corner back who toured the U.S. as a drummer for famed punk rock outfit 'P45'
Fair play to Cross. Unrecognisable from the team of 3 years ago, but you knew from 10 minutes in they were going to win.
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 31, 2010, 03:15:16 PM
Entertaining viewing. Although i'm not sure McQuillan is as bad as people are saying - there are a lot of fairly ruthless 'challenges' going on in there. And the pentalty call was sopt on. The second red was clearly the player's fault.
Did you see the hurling after, McQuillan would have only the keepers left. A poor display from the ref in a hard hitting but fairly clean game. He let McGourty away with an elbow and sent Cross' midfielder of for a mistimed shoulder which was at worst a second yellow if that. Gall's penalty was soft... some homer.
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
Puts into perspective a soft AI last year.
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:24:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
There is never a challenge in Antrim for them though, they are well used to it by now.
As opposed to Cross' passage to this stage I am referring to.
Did St John's not give them a game in Antrim this year?
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 31, 2010, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
Puts into perspective a soft AI last year.
Stupid comment. Could easily say Cross have had a bye into the Ulster for the last 15 odd years then!? Although we know that isn't the case. Fair play to Cross they were immense today.
fair play to cross. thought st galls would have had too much for them. cross will take some beating now. another ulster and AI title beckons on that performace.
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 31, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
fair play to cross. thought st galls would have had too much for them. cross will take some beating now. another ulster and AI title beckons on that performace.
Let's not get carried away now. I doubt if Coleraine or Burren will be easily beaten. Also is was easy for Cross to get motivated for a home game against the AI champions. This is bonus territory for them now as they are still very young and they will be missing Johnny Hanratty and Jamie for the next game.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 31, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
fair play to cross. thought st galls would have had too much for them. cross will take some beating now. another ulster and AI title beckons on that performace.
Let's not get carried away now. I doubt if Coleraine or Burren will be easily beaten. Also is was easy for Cross to get motivated for a home game against the AI champions. This is bonus territory for them now as they are still very young and they will be missing Johnny Hanratty and Jamie for the next game.
How are they very young?
Paul Hearty..32
Paul Kernan 24
Aaron Kernan 27
Brendan McKeown 30
David McKenna 24
Johnny Hanratty 23
Micky McNamee.. 26
Stephen Kernan 27
Tony Kernan 23
Oisin McConville 35
Francie Bellew 35
John McEntee 34
Young My Arse!
Having seen a number of club championship games around Ulster this year can say with ease that Burren were the best team to watch from a spectator's point of view. Big strong team that play really attractive football - I fancy them to get past Coleraine but only just... Burren v Cross would def be some game and would draw a huge crowd. I think Naomh Conaill will see off Coalisland, Tyrone champions never really seem to be up to much when it comes to the provincial stage and I reckon the glenties forwards will be too strong for C'island.
Winnie Peg you're talking shite.
team that started
James Morgan 19
paul Mc keown 22
Danny O C 21
Stephen Finnegan 22
Aaron cunningham 20
Franny hanratty 20
Outside of Hearty, Oisin, Mickey Mac SK and AK the rest of the starting 15 are under 24. that is young.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
team that started
James Morgan 19
paul Mc keown 22
Danny O C 21
Stephen Finnegan 22
Aaron cunningham 20
Franny hanratty 20
Outside of Hearty, Oisin, Mickey Mac SK and AK the rest of the starting 15 are under 24. that is young.
Thats only six under 24! Most teams would have that.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on October 31, 2010, 07:28:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
team that started
James Morgan 19
paul Mc keown 22
Danny O C 21
Stephen Finnegan 22
Aaron cunningham 20
Franny hanratty 20
Outside of Hearty, Oisin, Mickey Mac SK and AK the rest of the starting 15 are under 24. that is young.
Thats only six under 24! Most teams would have that.
You are on to a loser there Winnie. The older guys were on to strengthen things up in key parts of the game and only really played cameo roles.
That team is made up predominantly of under 28s and that is YOUNG
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Quote from: Maguire01 on October 31, 2010, 03:15:16 PM
Entertaining viewing. Although i'm not sure McQuillan is as bad as people are saying - there are a lot of fairly ruthless 'challenges' going on in there. And the pentalty call was sopt on. The second red was clearly the player's fault.
Did you see the hurling after, McQuillan would have only the keepers left. A poor display from the ref in a hard hitting but fairly clean game. He let McGourty away with an elbow and sent Cross' midfielder of for a mistimed shoulder which was at worst a second yellow if that. Gall's penalty was soft... some homer.
McQuillan was inconsistent too. Hanratty must have fouled about 6 or 7 times second half. He should have been off for persistent fouling - it would actually have helped Cross as they'd the game won and he'd not have missed the next game. Stewart fouled twice and walked. Wasn't sure about the cross penalty either.
Galls couldn't break down the Cross defense at all. They don't have a direct enough game and that suits teams like Cross. CJ was very poor and Rory Gallagher doesn't have much pace.
Niblock good as usual though. I thought Aaron Kernan showed his class - every time he got the ball something happened. Tony Kernan got an unbelievable amount of time and space too. Not sure who was marking him.
Surprised at clontibret getting beat never mind the margin.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on October 31, 2010, 07:28:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
team that started
James Morgan 19
paul Mc keown 22
Danny O C 21
Stephen Finnegan 22
Aaron cunningham 20
Franny hanratty 20
Outside of Hearty, Oisin, Mickey Mac SK and AK the rest of the starting 15 are under 24. that is young.
Thats only six under 24! Most teams would have that.
Add that to the ones you quoted.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on October 31, 2010, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 31, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
fair play to cross. thought st galls would have had too much for them. cross will take some beating now. another ulster and AI title beckons on that performace.
Let's not get carried away now. I doubt if Coleraine or Burren will be easily beaten. Also is was easy for Cross to get motivated for a home game against the AI champions. This is bonus territory for them now as they are still very young and they will be missing Johnny Hanratty and Jamie for the next game.
How are they very young?
Paul Hearty..32
Paul Kernan 24
Aaron Kernan 27
Brendan McKeown 30
David McKenna 24
Johnny Hanratty 23
Micky McNamee.. 26
Stephen Kernan 27
Tony Kernan 23
Oisin McConville 35
Francie Bellew 35
John McEntee 34
Young My Arse!
That makes 10 starters aged 24 or under. Fish and Kyle Carragher are around the 23-24 mark as well. The average age of the team would be around 23-24. That is young enough. They are experienced for their ages but every player in the central positions bar SK are under 24.
Enjoyed that game. Oisin's class in the opening 20 mins won it. He edged Cross 4 or 5 ahead and Galls were never closing that gap.
That was some hit on Aodhan Gallagher in the first half after Gallagher had fielded majestically - better than anything in the International Rules - was it big McKeown? That moment typified Cross's approach today. Galls weren't getting out with a win.
Most of the Galls forwards were poor today and Cross had their work done on Kieran McGourty their playmaker. He came in for some close attention. Kelly tried to take the game to Cross but was going it alone.
Well done Cross. Didn't think they had the players to turn over Galls. That's a big blow for the Milltown men. A win would've cemented their legacy. It's a bit like Kerry v Tyrone in the 00s. Galls needed that win over Cross to put that to bed. Got the feeling both sides were aware of the importance, a class of egos.
Quote from: ONeill on October 31, 2010, 09:47:57 PM
That was some hit on Aodhan Gallagher in the first half after Gallagher had fielded majestically - better than anything in the International Rules - was it big McKeown? That moment typified Cross's approach today. Galls weren't getting out with a win.
Johnny Hanratty. He can be proud of his days work and grafted really hard to allow the rest of the lads do the fancy stuff. He plays on the edge but that is something that every winning team needs.
Have not read back any comments, so I'll give you my frank view on the game.
Beat by a hungrier team
Beat by a team that had the right tactics
Beat by a team that played better football
Beat by a team, that won't win the All Ireland
And has finally put to bed any notions that Cross aren't the best team in Ulster.
All I can say is this,
Fail to prepare - prepare to fail
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 09:52:31 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 31, 2010, 09:47:57 PM
That was some hit on Aodhan Gallagher in the first half after Gallagher had fielded majestically - better than anything in the International Rules - was it big McKeown? That moment typified Cross's approach today. Galls weren't getting out with a win.
Johnny Hanratty. He can be proud of his days work and grafted really hard to allow the rest of the lads do the fancy stuff. He plays on the edge but that is something that every winning team needs.
He should have been put off long before he was for persistent fouling...
Why did Shaws Road not start?
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2010, 10:00:52 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 09:52:31 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 31, 2010, 09:47:57 PM
That was some hit on Aodhan Gallagher in the first half after Gallagher had fielded majestically - better than anything in the International Rules - was it big McKeown? That moment typified Cross's approach today. Galls weren't getting out with a win.
Johnny Hanratty. He can be proud of his days work and grafted really hard to allow the rest of the lads do the fancy stuff. He plays on the edge but that is something that every winning team needs.
He should have been put off long before he was for persistent fouling...
But he wasn't and that is not his fault.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
Have not read back any comments, so I'll give you my frank view on the game.
Beat by a hungrier team
Beat by a team that had the right tactics
Beat by a team that played better football
Beat by a team, that won't win the All Ireland
And has finally put to bed any notions that Cross aren't the best team in Ulster.
All I can say is this,
Fail to prepare - prepare to fail
Better in the hat than not!
Yes, i know the lads would prefere to be 'in the hat' but on that performance i can't really see (both teams) progressing.
Cross scored in the first half 2 from play, if a team was disciplined then they 'Cross' would not be in front. What did Cross score from play?
I thought that Cross were a banker today .... sounded on the radio that a bit of hunger was missing around St Galls .. this old 'hard man' stuff might get you a reputation as a team in west Belfast but they were mixing it with a side for whom it was 'wee buns' ..
Hurler, we did not come down to mix it ever. never have we played that game. But if your drawn into that game and players lose their focus then thats what happens
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
Yes, i know the lads would prefere to be 'in the hat' but on that performance i can't really see (both teams) progressing.
Cross scored in the first half 2 from play, if a team was disciplined then they 'Cross' would not be in front. What did Cross score from play?
Doesn't matter what you score from play or frees, they are still scores. Cross got 6 points from play but at this time of year most games are won through frees, i said it before the game and will say it again. Any team that can consistently get 12-13 will be within shouting distance of winning most games in November. Coalisland got 11 scores, Naomh Connaill 14 scores. Should Cross make the Final they will win it I reckon. Burren/Coleraine will be hard to beat but if they get over them they will have Jamie back for the final and that will be a great boost.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
Have not read back any comments, so I'll give you my frank view on the game.
Beat by a hungrier team
Beat by a team that had the right tactics
Beat by a team that played better football
Beat by a team, that won't win the All Ireland
And has finally put to bed any notions that Cross aren't the best team in Ulster.
All I can say is this,
Fail to prepare - prepare to fail
What do you mean by this?
Disillusioned you probably watched the game on TV so cant really comment on what went on in the game when the camera followed the ball.
BC1 if a team was more disciplined then the free count would be a lot lower thus cutting out the final score that was achieved surely!!!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
Have not read back any comments, so I'll give you my frank view on the game.
Beat by a hungrier team
Beat by a team that had the right tactics
Beat by a team that played better football
Beat by a team, that won't win the All Ireland
And has finally put to bed any notions that Cross aren't the best team in Ulster.
All I can say is this,
Fail to prepare - prepare to fail
over confident ?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
Disillusioned you probably watched the game on TV so cant really comment on what went on in the game when the camera followed the ball.
BC1 if a team was more disciplined then the free count would be a lot lower thus cutting out the final score that was achieved surely!!!
But 5-6 scores from frees would not be unusual generally in any game and given that 2 of those frees were in excess of 45 metres then this is an added factor. Cross actually scored 7 from play. St Galls scored what 3-4 from frees. Frees win championship games at this time of year. Slippy grounds, windy conditions, very little free flowing football. Even the most disciplined team will give away 5-6 scorable frees every game. Cross did it today, St Galls didn't take them. What may or may not happen is immaterial. Experience has shown me that these facts are pretty indisputable and will be the case in the rest of the championship matches before the championship is over.
Well I'll not say a team can be over confident playing against a team as successfull as Cross, that would be foolish thing, Ballinderry can vouch for that.
yes BC1 i agree with you regarding that teams all get frees at this time of year, but conditions were perfect, weather was great, we just didn't play well, cause Cross were better
I didn't think Galls were all that physical. They don't really play that way. Both sides hit hard. Two best teams in Ulster although Galls didn't get out of second gear.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
Disillusioned you probably watched the game on TV so cant really comment on what went on in the game when the camera followed the ball.
BC1 if a team was more disciplined then the free count would be a lot lower thus cutting out the final score that was achieved surely!!!
But 5-6 scores from frees would not be unusual generally in any game and given that 2 of those frees were in excess of 45 metres then this is an added factor. Cross actually scored 7 from play. St Galls scored what 3-4 from frees. Frees win championship games at this time of year. Slippy grounds, windy conditions, very little free flowing football. Even the most disciplined team will give away 5-6 scorable frees every game. Cross did it today, St Galls didn't take them. What may or may not happen is immaterial. Experience has shown me that these facts are pretty indisputable and will be the case in the rest of the championship matches before the championship is over.
exactly what Oisin said in his Gaelic Life Interview on Friday. when he pinged over the first few it was the first thing i thought off, he wasnt talking dung
Thought St Galls lack of discipline cost them today, summed up in the first minute by Aodhan Gallagher, whom slapped the ball out of a Cross players hands thus getting the ball moved up to a scoring position off about the 50 which Oisin slotted over. That kind of stuff cracks me up when watching underage teams play never mind Ulster senior club. Best team won on the day in a game I thought would go to the wire.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 31, 2010, 06:25:36 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:24:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
There is never a challenge in Antrim for them though, they are well used to it by now.
As opposed to Cross' passage to this stage I am referring to.
Did St John's not give them a game in Antrim this year?Quote from: Applesisapples on October 31, 2010, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 31, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
No real challenge in the Antrim championship mixed with an inability to cope with Cross' robust rearguard was the downfall of the all ireland champions.
Puts into perspective a soft AI last year.
Stupid comment. Could easily say Cross have had a bye into the Ulster for the last 15 odd years then!? Although we know that isn't the case. Fair play to Cross they were immense today.
How is it stupid, who did they beat that could be deemed a big club?
I remember the 2007 game between Galls and Cross and Galls tried beating Cross at the physical game and when that didnt work they turned to the more cynical type of football. The worst thing about it is that Cross bit this time and kept getting players booked when they were comfortably in the lead. At the end however cross could have won by alot more if they didn't try going for goals.
St Galls proved yesterday that it didnt have the right attitude to win an ulster/all-ireland this year. you cant have players running around america and then returning expecting to beat tested teams. ie armagh championship was very competitive this year and either dromintee or st pats would have beaten galls yesterday. Their tactics of trying to physically compete with cross and then carrying the balls into tackles from defence doesnt work. still have to say that cross relied on oisins frees which he was carried for ps wish we had him and we would have a pocketfull of medals. as for the clowns from o donnells this is a regular position with men being sent off. i beleive they have the worst disipline record in antrim maybe ireland with matches regularily not finished without a number of dismissals as proved yesterday, but well done grange. as for the irish news tipsters haha ur love of antrim teams is gone for the year.
Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
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Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
noticed that myself but that has always been there way,as we (bellaghy) learnt to our own down fall in a ulster final,while we were yapping at the ref cross had the ball in the back of the net!
look at francie after he gave away the penalty,just set down the ball and walked away without a murmour,mcgourty and gallagher never shout there mouth.
Absolutely true. Those wee angels from Cross wouldn't say boo to a goose. Never give sly digs or anythjing like that and for poor Francie, why do other players always pick on him knowing that he has never touched anyone in his life. Just ask Micky Linden.
Overall Cross where far more hungier on the day than St Galls but nobody has commented on the penalties. I actually think if Galls had scored their penalty at that stage they would have went on to win the game as i felt they had the momentum. Also thought that the penalty Cross where awarded was incredibly soft, 9 times out of 10 you dont see them given. Think it was overall the turning point, Cross where well on top at that stage but Galls where in touching distance i always felt up to that. Felt sorry for Niblock who i thought had a good game, anything that was kicked up to him, he was out in front and won. He struck his penalty well, low and hard, great save just and i felt that the game hung on the 2 penalties. Take nothing away from Cross though, where def the team that wanted it more oin the day, just thought it would have made for an interesting last 15 minutes had Galls netted.
Home advantage a big thing too in the lster Championship games as it showed this weekend.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 01, 2010, 09:28:54 AM
Absolutely true. Those wee angels from Cross wouldn't say boo to a goose. Never give sly digs or anythjing like that and for poor Francie, why do other players always pick on him knowing that he has never touched anyone in his life. Just ask Micky Linden.
Give over you, bloody empty vessel ::)
I would agree about the penalties. St Galls dropped the gead a good bit after missing their penalty. I thought they *may* have went on and won it. Also Kevin McGourty missing first half was a massive loss.
Basically Cross had more men who could take scores. That along with St Galls indiscipline in the game cost them. The discipline, in terms of fouling in scoreable regions, improved second half but in teh first half it was shocking.
One stage I thought was very telling. St Galls were 3 down and had a good chance. Niblock hadn't the confidence to shoot so ended up overplaying it to a man who picked off the ground. Cross go up and score, win the kickout and score again. 5 point game.
You compare that to McKenna, the Kernans and McConville and all could take points. St Galls needed Kelly or McGourty. Gallagher hadn't the pace to get space for shooting. Having said that McNamee doesn't appear to have a good set of shooting boots...
Regarding cheap shots to be honest both teams were as bad as each other.
Cross looked a formidable side yesterday. Ulster should not be a problem.
I thought the Cross penalty was a good decision. Kelly fouled/tripped his man who was going to challenge for the ball.
Kevin McGourty didn't connect at all with the elbow.
Fair play to Cross, they are a better team than I gave them credit for. I based my opinion on the fact that they should have been beaten in both the Armagh semi-final (first match and replay) and final. Maybe the much maligned club scene in Armagh is better than a whole lot think it is.
I think St Galls thought that they could physically dominate this young Cross team and it backfired on them as they lost their focus early doors. Thought AK was back to his best yesterday, he was outstanding with only Oisin beating him to MOTM. Oisin is still the man that makes this team tick, his assurance and confidence seems to rub off on his team mates. Hanratty should have walked long before he did although his red card should have been a yellow.
I presume Gareth O'Neill has earned himself a touchline ban when he got involved with a couple of St Galls players in one of the first half dust ups. Paul McKeown had to take him away out of the road.
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) 1-12 Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) 1-12 After Extra Time
Full Time: Killyman St Marys 1-09 Corduff Gaels 1-09
Preliminary Round Replay
Corduff Gaels 1-10 Killyman St Marys 0-07
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Swanlinbar St Marys(Cavan) 4-16 Ardmore St Marys(Derry) 2-06
Breffni Park
Maguiresbridge St Marys(Fermanagh) 1-07 Drumaness St Colmans(Down) 1-14
Brewster Park
Grange St Colmcilles(Armagh) 0-13 Cardinal O'Donnells(Antrim) 0-05
Crossmaglen
Corduff Gaels 1-08 Newtowncunningham Naomh Colmcille(Donegal) 0-06
Clones
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Semi Finals:
Swanlinbar v Drumaness St Colmans
12-45pm Omagh
Grange St Colmcilles v Corduff Gaels
12-45pm Casement Park
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Doohamlet O'Neills(Monaghan) 1-12 Bundoran Réalt na Mara(Donegal) 1-10
Quarter Finals:
30-10-10 (Saturday)
Derrytrasna Sarsfields(Armagh) 0-08 Doohamlet O'Neills 1-10
Crossmaglen
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Tullylish(Down) 1-08 Lisnaskea Emmetts(Fermanagh) 2-12
Páirc Esler
Rasharkin St Marys(Antrim) 1-10 Castledawson St Malachys(Derry) 0-11
Casement Park
Drumalee(Cavan) 0-16 Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys(Tyrone) 2-15 After Extra Time
Full Time: Drumalee 0-12 Derrylaughan 1-09
Breffni Park
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts v Rasharkin St Marys
2-30pm Omagh
Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys v Doohamlet O'Neills
12-45pm Brewster Park
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) 0-11 Naomh Conaill(Donegal) 1-12
Kingscourt 0-11 (C Smith 0-1, B Reilly 0-3(1 free), J McMahon 0-1, T Malone 0-1, R McCormack 0-5)
Naomh Conaill 1-12 (A Thompson 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, B McDyre 0-1, L McLoone 1-0, D Gallagher 0-2(2 frees), J O'Malley 0-2, D (B) Molloy 0-4(1 free), L Thompson 0-1)
O Raghallaigh Park
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 Sunday
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-12 St Galls(Antrim) 0-09
Crossmaglen 1-12 (A Kernan 0-2(1 free), D McKenna 0-2, M McNamee 0-1, O McConville 1-6(goal from penalty, 4 frees), J McEntee 0-1)
St Galls 0-09 (S Kelly 0-1, M Pollock 0-1, CJ McGourty 0-5(3 frees), K Niblock 0-2(1 fifty, 1 free)
Crossmaglen
Coalisland Na Fianna(Tyrone) 1-10 Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-07
Coalisland 1-10 (J Curran(goalkeeper) 0-1(a fifty), P Toner 0-2, P Kane 0-1, S Curran 0-1, B Toner 0-1, P McNeice 0-1, T O'Hagan 1-1, D Thornton 0-2(1 free))
Roslea 1-07 (Séamus Quigley 0-6(4 frees, 1 fifty), Seán Quigley 1-1)
Omagh
Naomh Conaill 2-12 Clontibret O'Neills(Monaghan) 0-09
Naomh Conaill 2-12 (E Wade 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, L McLoone 0-1, D Gallagher 0-1, D (B) Molloy 1-5(4 frees, 1 fifty), L Thompson 1-3)
Clontibret 0-09 (A Rooney 0-1, V Corey 0-1, C McManus 0-7(6 frees))
Ballybofey
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Burren St Marys(Down) 1-12 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 0-05
Burren 1-12 (C Murdock(goalkeeper) 0-1, Conal McGovern 0-2, J McGovern 0-1, E McGovern 0-3, S Murdock 1-3(1 free), E Toner 0-2)
Eoghan Rua 0-05 (B McGoldrick 0-4(3 frees), Ciaran McGoldrick 0-1)
Páirc Esler
14-11-10 Sunday
Semi Finals:
Crossmaglen Rangers v Burren St Marys
2-30pm Casement Park
Coalisland Na Fianna v Naomh Conaill
2-30pm Brewster Park
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 01, 2010, 09:28:54 AM
Absolutely true. Those wee angels from Cross wouldn't say boo to a goose. Never give sly digs or anythjing like that and for poor Francie, why do other players always pick on him knowing that he has never touched anyone in his life. Just ask Micky Linden.
Francie wasn't penalised for that Linden just came off second best.
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on November 01, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
Overall Cross where far more hungier on the day than St Galls but nobody has commented on the penalties. I actually think if Galls had scored their penalty at that stage they would have went on to win the game as i felt they had the momentum. Also thought that the penalty Cross where awarded was incredibly soft, 9 times out of 10 you dont see them given. Think it was overall the turning point, Cross where well on top at that stage but Galls where in touching distance i always felt up to that. Felt sorry for Niblock who i thought had a good game, anything that was kicked up to him, he was out in front and won. He struck his penalty well, low and hard, great save just and i felt that the game hung on the 2 penalties. Take nothing away from Cross though, where def the team that wanted it more oin the day, just thought it would have made for an interesting last 15 minutes had Galls netted.
Home advantage a big thing too in the lster Championship games as it showed this weekend.
Disagree. How many times did Cross go for goal instead of points in the second half? They should have scored at least 5 points. The red card at the end for the cross player was a complete joke. Oisin still has the golden touch, Francis was unrecognizable (I havent seen him play for a while) and I dont mean that as a good thing, everytime he took a hit he was the one that came off worse 3 or 4 years ago the other player would have been rolling on the floor while Francie would stand there looking for the next player.
The good thing from a Cross perspective is that they were not happy with just winning and I dont think we have seen the best of them either.
Thon CJ McGourty is nothing short of a gypo. Having stood on the sidelines watching him at the Kilmacud 7's, been at the match yesterday and after watching the highlights on tg4, it really showed how much of a w*****r he is. Any time a St.Galls man gets fouled, he's over yapping and mouthing. Priceless image seeing him lying on the ground with hands in the air while J.Hanratty standing over him with a closed fist.
Hard to go past a defender this time of year, well i should say a good defender, which there were quite a few of in yesterdays game. Cross were full value for the win, but there are plenty of sides that will fancy themselves to beat them. However if i was forced to call a ulster champ winner out of whos left i would have to pick cross, and you couldn blame me.
St galls winning a soft AI is porbably the most rediculous statement i have read here. I think its a stupid statement to make regarding the intercounty AI, but to win a club AI is even harder, given that it wasnt just the games they won last year that helped them, it was ones they won and lost (mainly the final defeat to Salthill) in early years that made them worthy champs last year.
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 01, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
It was actually a foul. Gallagher was soloing the ball at the time. McGourty should definitely have walked though, contact or not he swung an elbow at the man's head. Not even a booking, not sure what the ref was at!
Also, some have said it wasn't a penalty for Cross. It was a clear obstruction, moment of madness from Sean Kelly. Often you don't see them given, but I think it was the right call.
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on November 01, 2010, 11:53:49 AM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on November 01, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
Overall Cross where far more hungier on the day than St Galls but nobody has commented on the penalties. I actually think if Galls had scored their penalty at that stage they would have went on to win the game as i felt they had the momentum. Also thought that the penalty Cross where awarded was incredibly soft, 9 times out of 10 you dont see them given. Think it was overall the turning point, Cross where well on top at that stage but Galls where in touching distance i always felt up to that. Felt sorry for Niblock who i thought had a good game, anything that was kicked up to him, he was out in front and won. He struck his penalty well, low and hard, great save just and i felt that the game hung on the 2 penalties. Take nothing away from Cross though, where def the team that wanted it more oin the day, just thought it would have made for an interesting last 15 minutes had Galls netted.
Home advantage a big thing too in the lster Championship games as it showed this weekend.
Disagree. How many times did Cross go for goal instead of points in the second half? They should have scored at least 5 points. The red card at the end for the cross player was a complete joke. Oisin still has the golden touch, Francis was unrecognizable (I havent seen him play for a while) and I dont mean that as a good thing, everytime he took a hit he was the one that came off worse 3 or 4 years ago the other player would have been rolling on the floor while Francie would stand there looking for the next player.
The good thing from a Cross perspective is that they were not happy with just winning and I dont think we have seen the best of them either.
After the penalty Niblock seemed to take him out a bit, then he got a knee in the head. Not sure how Francie could have been expected to have got the better or either exchange.
Don't know if it was just me or did some of the st galls players look a bit over weight and not as trim as you would expect this time of year? Looked to be a bit of a gut on a few of them! (not counting the keeper!)
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 01, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
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Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
It was actually a foul. Gallagher was soloing the ball at the time. McGourty should definitely have walked though, contact or not he swung an elbow at the man's head. Not even a booking, not sure what the ref was at!
Also, some have said it wasn't a penalty for Cross. It was a clear obstruction, moment of madness from Sean Kelly. Often you don't see them given, but I think it was the right call.
Quote5.29 (a) To charge an opponent in the back or to the
front.
(b) To charge an opponent:
(i) who is not in possession of the ball, or
(ii) is in the act of kicking the ball, or
(iii) both players are not moving in the direction
of the ball to play it.
It actually wasn't a foul.
Mc Gourty probably should have gone for the elbow and I cannot understand how the ref missed it, or decided that it wasn't a booking at least.
Quote from: supersub on November 01, 2010, 01:02:35 PM
Don't know if it was just me or did some of the st galls players look a bit over weight and not as trim as you would expect this time of year? Looked to be a bit of a gut on a few of them! (not counting the keeper!)
One or two certainly didn't look fully fit and when Darren O'Hare came on I looked at his gut and realised there is life in me yet :D :D
Quote from: thewanderer on November 01, 2010, 08:43:40 AM
St Galls proved yesterday that it didnt have the right attitude to win an ulster/all-ireland this year. you cant have players running around america and then returning expecting to beat tested teams. ie armagh championship was very competitive this year and either dromintee or st pats would have beaten galls yesterday. Their tactics of trying to physically compete with cross and then carrying the balls into tackles from defence doesnt work. still have to say that cross relied on oisins frees which he was carried for ps wish we had him and we would have a pocketfull of medals. as for the clowns from o donnells this is a regular position with men being sent off. i beleive they have the worst disipline record in antrim maybe ireland with matches regularily not finished without a number of dismissals as proved yesterday, but well done grange. as for the irish news tipsters haha ur love of antrim teams is gone for the year.
I 'believe' you should stick to posting things you have a clue about - i'm certainly no O'Ds man but you are being very harsh on them with a ridiculous remark like that.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 01, 2010, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 01, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 01, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
It was actually a foul. Gallagher was soloing the ball at the time. McGourty should definitely have walked though, contact or not he swung an elbow at the man's head. Not even a booking, not sure what the ref was at!
Also, some have said it wasn't a penalty for Cross. It was a clear obstruction, moment of madness from Sean Kelly. Often you don't see them given, but I think it was the right call.
Quote5.29 (a) To charge an opponent in the back or to the
front.
(b) To charge an opponent:
(i) who is not in possession of the ball, or
(ii) is in the act of kicking the ball, or
(iii) both players are not moving in the direction
of the ball to play it.
It actually wasn't a foul.
Mc Gourty probably should have gone for the elbow and I cannot understand how the ref missed it, or decided that it wasn't a booking at least.
thats the strange thing,galls had won the free and when mcgourty threw the elbow he hopped the ball so he must have seen it and bottled out of it
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Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 01, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 01, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
It was actually a foul. Gallagher was soloing the ball at the time. McGourty should definitely have walked though, contact or not he swung an elbow at the man's head. Not even a booking, not sure what the ref was at!
Also, some have said it wasn't a penalty for Cross. It was a clear obstruction, moment of madness from Sean Kelly. Often you don't see them given, but I think it was the right call.
Quote5.29 (a) To charge an opponent in the back or to the
front.
(b) To charge an opponent:
(i) who is not in possession of the ball, or
(ii) is in the act of kicking the ball, or
(iii) both players are not moving in the direction
of the ball to play it.
It actually wasn't a foul.
Mc Gourty probably should have gone for the elbow and I cannot understand how the ref missed it, or decided that it wasn't a booking at least.
thats the strange thing,galls had won the free and when mcgourty threw the elbow he hopped the ball so he must have seen it and bottled out of it
Definitely bottled it and it would have been interesting what his reaction would have been had Johnny Hanratty had been the offender rather than the victim.
Think Cross should be happy with the ref with some of the frees he gave them in the first half. Although I'm glad he didn't buy Francie's attempt to get a free when on the ground he put the head in one of the St Galls players knee & had to go off injured as a result :D
Quote from: KickHerDead on November 01, 2010, 12:46:31 PM
Hard to go past a defender this time of year, well i should say a good defender, which there won and lost (mainly the final defeat to Nemo) in early years that made them worthy champs last year.
they beat nemo, but lost to salthill in the final.
Galls are a good side, but this time of year doesn't see them at their best. They had a big scare this time last year in the first round too. Cross were impressive, but they'll not get it all their own way next time out either.
My mistake bogball, il edit that
Quote from: Disillusioned on November 01, 2010, 03:11:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 01, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: supersub on November 01, 2010, 01:02:35 PM
Don't know if it was just me or did some of the st galls players look a bit over weight and not as trim as you would expect this time of year? Looked to be a bit of a gut on a few of them! (not counting the keeper!)
One or two certainly didn't look fully fit and when Darren O'Hare came on I looked at his gut and realised there is life in me yet :D :D
Is it not in O'Hare's genes to carry a pound or two around the middle.
Jeans, tracksuit, I'd say he's carry a pound or two around the middle no matter what he wears!!!
Quote from: aontroim on November 01, 2010, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 01, 2010, 08:43:40 AM
St Galls proved yesterday that it didnt have the right attitude to win an ulster/all-ireland this year. you cant have players running around america and then returning expecting to beat tested teams. ie armagh championship was very competitive this year and either dromintee or st pats would have beaten galls yesterday. Their tactics of trying to physically compete with cross and then carrying the balls into tackles from defence doesnt work. still have to say that cross relied on oisins frees which he was carried for ps wish we had him and we would have a pocketfull of medals. as for the clowns from o donnells this is a regular position with men being sent off. i beleive they have the worst disipline record in antrim maybe ireland with matches regularily not finished without a number of dismissals as proved yesterday, but well done grange. as for the irish news tipsters haha ur love of antrim teams is gone for the year.
I 'believe' you should stick to posting things you have a clue about - i'm certainly no O'Ds man but you are being very harsh on them with a ridiculous remark like that.
I 'believe' you should stick to posting things you have a clue about - i'm certainly no O'Ds man but you are being very harsh on them with a ridiculous remark like that.
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havin talked to a number of antrim men today i think they do have a regular disipline problem. a number of games this year including one FRIENDLY against an armagh team struggled to be finished due to o,ds men behaviour.
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Final
St Johns(Antrim) v Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone)
2-30pm Casement Park
E Hassan
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Quarter Final
Burren St Marys(Down) v Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry)
2-30pm Páirc Esler
P McEnaney
Quote from: thewanderer on November 01, 2010, 03:53:09 PM
I 'believe' you should stick to posting things you have a clue about - i'm certainly no O'Ds man but you are being very harsh on them with a ridiculous remark like that.
havin talked to a number of antrim men today i think they do have a regular disipline problem. a number of games this year including one FRIENDLY against an armagh team struggled to be finished due to o,ds men behaviour.
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wanderer do yourself a favour and have a look here: http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?userid=&leaguetable=1&report=1&reporttype=mixresults&compid=13966&countyid=1&club_id=&sportid=1 then tell me where this crap about their discipline comes from? You are listening to (and relaying) information from a poor source! The 'worst disciplined team in Antrim' got promoted this season.
Having thought about the game I think had we scored that goal it would not have made any difference to the end result.
Certainly showed that you can't go into games without the right mental attitude or be complacent, especially in South Armagh.
Lenny may step down after this and someone else will have to re focus minds and prepare them for next year. It will do them no harm to rest up. Could even help the County team with players rested before pre season training.
Darren actually looked like he'd shed a few pounds.
Quote from: Disillusioned on November 01, 2010, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 01, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 01, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: supersub on November 01, 2010, 01:02:35 PM
Don't know if it was just me or did some of the st galls players look a bit over weight and not as trim as you would expect this time of year? Looked to be a bit of a gut on a few of them! (not counting the keeper!)
One or two certainly didn't look fully fit and when Darren O'Hare came on I looked at his gut and realised there is life in me yet :D :D
Is it not in O'Hare's genes to carry a pound or two around the middle.
Jeans, tracksuit, I'd say he's carry a pound or two around the middle no matter what he wears!!!
Is Darren not son of PJ?
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2ly1qia.jpg)
He is indeed.
No surprise St Galls lost when you consider their preparations in the last couple of weeks. They got what they deserved.
Quote from: Trout on November 01, 2010, 06:19:09 PM
No surprise St Galls lost when you consider their preparations in the last couple of weeks. They got what they deserved.
explain?
Heard one of their players was in Bot on Wed night. Ag ól.
No matter what happened on Sunday Cross are still not a shadow of their former selves, unfortunately they may be on the verge of another dynasty, but the few Cross ones I have been speaking to since the game are very much aware that they are a work in progress. They were up for this game bigtime and it showed, it'll be hard to do that again in the semi as favourites against a team who'll have dissected their performances and will be every bit as committed.
Cross looked so ordinary throughout the Armagh championship, they are a dangerous beast with their tails up but they still have the same weaknesses they had during the county champ - probably worse due to suspensions now. I get the feeling they are praying for a Coleraine victory this weekend as Burren have the tradition and wouldn't be at all cowed.
Shaws Road was on the piss.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 01, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Heard one of their players was in Bot on Wed night. Ag ól.
disgraceful, imagine an amateur player daring to go to a nightclub (of sorts), and it only 4 days before a game.
Good by performance by Cross, some players that hadn't shone in the county final played better, TK and McKenna for example. Oisin played as well as he has in while and that is saying something. Is there a player in Ulster with half his scoring total in the Ulster championship or all club championship games? St Galls did lack discipline, there is no point in giving away frees or having them moved up against Rangers, who have Oisin, TK and AK more than willing to punish petulance by the opposition. In same cases Cross could have been a bit calmer themselves, if Morgan was more experienced he might not have been so enthuasiastic at that time, when you know the ref is likely to balance things up. Johnny Hanratty has a huge workrate, but is not the tidiest tackler and could benefit from tightening things up in this respect.
Coleraine might be perceived as easier, but Burren might be easier to get crank up the machine for.
Quote from: Bogball XV on November 01, 2010, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 01, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Heard one of their players was in Bot on Wed night. Ag ól.
disgraceful, imagine an amateur player daring to go to a nightclub (of sorts), and it only 4 days before a game.
I he is talking about Kevin McGoat it was a lot more than last Wednesday. He was flat out. That's why he didn't start.
Quote from: hardstation on November 01, 2010, 12:00:45 PM
As bad and as well beaten as St. Gall's were, they still had plenty of chances to win the game. The penalty, Niblock's back heel and they missed some amount of chances for points.
They seemed very slow yesterday, especially in their forward line. They had nobody who could beat a back for pace.
Clearly suffering from delusions.
Quote from: Bogball XV on November 01, 2010, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 01, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Heard one of their players was in Bot on Wed night. Ag ól.
disgraceful, imagine an amateur player daring to go to a nightclub (of sorts), and it only 4 days before a game.
Just stating what I was told. If true it is disgraceful IMO.
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 01, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 01, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: isourboydownyet on October 31, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
someone said cross are f**ked if they need to bring back john mac,well if galls are bringing on ohare i know who is f**ked!
Very true, has he done any training since 2002?
It was very evident from the start yesterday that St Galls were trying to match Cross physically, but they went about it with cheap late hits and digs whereas Cross hit fair and hard. The shoulder from Hanratty on Gallagher was immense, and it really lay down the marker to the St Galls players who until that stage were hitting men late when they were after kicking the ball or firing sly punches to the sides of peoples heads. There was a huge contrast in attitudes from the beginning, as someone already mentioned Gallagher hitting ther ball out of a Cross players hands at the start when a free had been given, well alot of the time I saw Cross give away a free their players just rolled the ball towards the opposition player and got on with it without any yapping. They seemed very well disciplined apart from the moment of madness from Morgan (did he slide in or slip?). Tony, Stephen and Aaron Kernan seemed to have an unbelievable amount of possession, and they used it well. The Cross forward line showed up well in front of their man each time and their link up play up front was very good. The Red for Hanratty was very harsh, especially in comparison with the deliberate swing of the elbow from McGourty at a mans head moments earlier which the referee clearly seen. How did he not get a straight red for that?
It was actually a foul. Gallagher was soloing the ball at the time. McGourty should definitely have walked though, contact or not he swung an elbow at the man's head. Not even a booking, not sure what the ref was at!
Also, some have said it wasn't a penalty for Cross. It was a clear obstruction, moment of madness from Sean Kelly. Often you don't see them given, but I think it was the right call.
If you accept that it was clear obstruction then under the rules it has to be a penalty, only technical fouls ie handling the ball on the ground or over carrying can be given as a free.
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Grange St Colmcilles v Corduff Gaels
12-45pm Casement Park
Crossmaglen Rangers v Burren St Marys/Coleraine Eoghan Rua
2-30pm Casement Park
(Burren St Marys v Coleraine Eoghan Rua - unless this is a draw After Extra Time)
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2010, 04:10:34 PM
Talk of Cross hitting Galls hard may have been true 2-3 yrs ago. From what I gather this Cross side are a shower of lily-livered buttercups.
Yeah. ::)
Great result for Cross yesterday although they maybe have another gear to find.
While it is still great to see McConville striking over the frees, thought Aaaron Kernan was MOM yesterday.
Hopefully Paddy O'Rourke was watching yesterday and realises that experiment is over.
Cross will need a few more scores from Tony ( who played well without scoring) and Stephen the next day.
McKenna is a bit frustrating because at times he looks unplayable and then can drift out of a game ( bit like Ciaran Whelan).
Despite being his first year Tony Mac seems to have his head screwed on and will not be getting carried away about yesterdays performance.
Quote from: Orangemac on November 01, 2010, 11:10:34 PM
Great result for Cross yesterday although they maybe have another gear to find.
While it is still great to see McConville striking over the frees, thought Aaaron Kernan was MOM yesterday.
Hopefully Paddy O'Rourke was watching yesterday and realises that experiment is over.
Cross will need a few more scores from Tony ( who played well without scoring) and Stephen the next day.
McKenna is a bit frustrating because at times he looks unplayable and then can drift out of a game ( bit like Ciaran Whelan).
Despite being his first year Tony Mac seems to have his head screwed on and will not be getting carried away about yesterdays performance.
Good summation, they have a way to go to beat the likes of Dr Crokes. AK was my MOM as well, I was impressed by McKenna even if he does drift abit surely a better County option than some who have been tried. Also agree that AK's position is wing back.
Quote from: drici on November 01, 2010, 10:14:57 PM
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Grange St Colmcilles v Corduff Gaels
12-45pm Casement Park
Crossmaglen Rangers v Burren St Marys/Coleraine Eoghan Rua
2-30pm Casement Park
(Burren St Marys v Coleraine Eoghan Rua - unless this is a draw After Extra Time)
If it turns out to be Cross v Burren, it'll be a bit shite to be dragging all those teams up to Casement. Newry would be closer to all four clubs, even if it might lend Burren a slight advantage.
I think whoever play cross in the next round will make it very hard for them. Im not just saying this as a derry man, but if Coleraine do come through it might be just what the doctor ordered to beat cross, very fit, and as a few teams will testify in Derry, they dont give two hoots about tradition! Although i do agree that tradition stands you in good stead this tme of year but only if the opposition allow it to.
Quote from: KickHerDead on November 02, 2010, 09:54:17 AM
I think whoever play cross in the next round will make it very hard for them. Im not just saying this as a derry man, but if Coleraine do come through it might be just what the doctor ordered to beat cross, very fit, and as a few teams will testify in Derry, they dont give two hoots about tradition! Although i do agree that tradition stands you in good stead this tme of year but only if the opposition allow it to.
setting a hyped derry team up again. time will tell
Quote from: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
Quote from: KickHerDead on November 02, 2010, 09:54:17 AM
I think whoever play cross in the next round will make it very hard for them. Im not just saying this as a derry man, but if Coleraine do come through it might be just what the doctor ordered to beat cross, very fit, and as a few teams will testify in Derry, they dont give two hoots about tradition! Although i do agree that tradition stands you in good stead this tme of year but only if the opposition allow it to.
setting a hyped derry team up again. time will tell
hyped 'again' by who? expectations are modest enough actually, not helped by a league semi annihilation. I hope there isn't going to be accusations of 'derry hype' if burren win by a few!
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Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 01, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Heard one of their players was in Bot on Wed night. Ag ól.
disgraceful, imagine an amateur player daring to go to a nightclub (of sorts), and it only 4 days before a game.
I he is talking about Kevin McGoat it was a lot more than last Wednesday. He was flat out. That's why he didn't start.
maybe not the best management decision in hindsight, obviously not the best decision by the player either, but unless he was missing training did it have to be made into such an issue?
I see St Galls have launched a complaint about a cross player shouldering their water carrier from behind and want the cross bys to identify the culprit
good luck with that, imagine trying to get crossmaglen to 'grass up' a player :D
Aye he'll probably end up in a ditch
Sell high after Cross demolition
01 Nov 2010, by Kevin Egan
It would be easy to look at Sunday's win for Crossmaglen Rangers over St Galls and wonder have they ever been away. Three Ulster titles in a row from 2006 to 2008 to crown their incredible run of success over the past fifteen years seemed like a world away last October when the famous black and amber clad men failed to come out of Armagh, but they came back with a bang at the weekend and dethroned the reigning Ulster and All Ireland champions in some style.
Crossmaglen's physicality and power was simply unstoppable and the decision of Tony McEntee to return to the fold looks like a very good one now as more medals look to be all but in the post.
All that said, Crossmaglen Rangers had a very good day but their opponents lacked sharpness, which was always a danger after five weeks without a championship match. Motivation would not have been difficult for the Cross management team as being installed as underdogs on their home soil will certainly have raised the ire of the players, but the tables will turn now for the semi final stages.
Whether it's Burren or Coleraine who make the trip to Armagh for the Ulster semi final, they will be match sharp, playing with nothing to lose and could prove very dangerous. If Cross do fail to win the Ulster title, they are much more likely to slip up here than in a potential final against either Naomh Conaill or Coalisland. For that reason, Burren at 10/1 looks overpriced. While due deference must be paid to the outstanding record Derry clubs have in Ulster, including first time winners like Loup in 2003, Burren have a better balanced team than Coleraine and should be favoured more heavily for this tie. Just as Crossmaglen did on Sunday, Burren will benefit from playing championship football more recently and their competitive defence and balanced attack is ideal for taking on Cross.
Coleraine should give Burren plenty to think about, but from a Burren point of view it's an ideal range finder before taking on the market leaders. At 10/1, they are perhaps the only likely contenders left in an Ulster championship that is a lot less imposing than in other years.
A 2pt bet on Burren is recommended at 10/1, though anyone who felt like covering their stake with a 3pt bet on Cross might not be too far off the mark either.
http://starbets.ie/author/kevin-egan
Quote from: Banana Man on November 02, 2010, 12:20:37 PM
I see St Galls have launched a complaint about a cross player shouldering their water carrier from behind and want the cross bys to identify the culprit
good luck with that, imagine trying to get crossmaglen to 'grass up' a player :D
Even if they did point out the player, nothing will come of it.
I'd be embarrassed first and foremost if i was hit from behind and didn't do something about it there and then. Even more so now if i did it officially.
Haven't heard if this is true yet, What side did it happen on? I know Cross had a madman (bottle carrier) torturing the linesman on the side i was on the whole match.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
I'd be embarrassed first and foremost if i was hit from behind and didn't do something about it there and then. Even more so now if i did it officially.
Haven't heard if this is true yet, What side did it happen on? I know Cross had a madman (bottle carrier) torturing the linesman on the side i was on the whole match.
St. Gall's lodge complaint after attack on vice-chairman
02 November 2010
St. Gall's have made an official complaint to the Ulster Council after their vice-chairman was allegedly felled from behind during the first half of last Sunday's Ulster club championship defeat by Crossmaglen.
Harry Bradley, who was acting as a water carrier, was shouldered to the ground at Crossmaglen's Oliver Plunkett Park seconds after the Armagh champions were awarded a first half penalty, which Oisin McConville converted.
The 44-year-old revealed that he was hit in the same area he suffered a collapsed lung and fractured ribs as he made a guest appearance during a centenary match for St. Gall's against Castlewellan earlier this year.
"Your man hit me in the exact same spot and I was dazed, slightly concussed, had difficulty breathing for a wee bit after it," he explained.
"I think it was more the shock. Mark McCrory, our team doctor, saw me at half-time to make sure I was okay."
St. Gall's chairman Paul Flanagan said the "onus is on Crossmaglen" to identify the player who allegedly struck his fellow club officer.
"We're making a complaint to the Ulster Council, but the onus is on Crossmaglen," he said.
"It's terrible what happened. We can accept that we were beaten on the pitch, but there is no place in Gaelic games for this type of action," added Flanagan, who insisted that the alleged assault was "totally unprovoked".
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=137924
I couldn't understand that this incident wasn't highlighted by the media before today and how it took St. Galls to bring it up. It happened in full view of the stand and was completely uncalled for. The linesman on that side was also aware that it happened. Crossmaglen are notorious for having too many officials running along the side line and on the field of play. Their assistant manager was never of the field of play on Sunday and caused more than one incident. Remember a few years back Joe Kernan coming on the field of play in an ulster club final with my own club, causing a melee which we were blamed for which always seems to be trhe case with Crossmaglen.
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 02, 2010, 02:38:41 PM
I couldn't understand that this incident wasn't highlighted by the media before today and how it took St. Galls to bring it up. It happened in full view of the stand and was completely uncalled for. The linesman on that side was also aware that it happened. Crossmaglen are notorious for having too many officials running along the side line and on the field of play. Their assistant manager was never of the field of play on Sunday and caused more than one incident. Remember a few years back Joe Kernan coming on the field of play in an ulster club final with my own club, causing a melee which we were blamed for which always seems to be trhe case with Crossmaglen.
Who is that by the way?
Harry did have an awful injury a while back, no luck really. Will be slagging him on Friday night. ;D
Disillusioned, you really are a WUM. The statement does not say if it was a player or an official. I also didn't realise you had to have a fitness test to perform water carrying duties, as the duties are very dangerous with the chance of getting struck from behind.
Knowing Harry well, he just probably feels aggrieved no action was taken at the time by the linesman.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Disillusioned, you really are a WUM. The statement does not say if it was a player or an official. I also didn't realise you had to have a fitness test to perform water carrying duties, as the duties are very dangerous with the chance of getting struck from behind.
Knowing Harry well, he just probably feels aggrieved no action was taken at the time by the linesman.
I see CJ has lambasted the ref, followed by a onesided view of proceedings from Brendan Crossan, in todays IN. Crossan only seemed to see culprits in Black and Amber.
In the Irish Star Harry Bradley states it was a Cross substitute that shouldered him in the back as the penalty was ready to be hit whatever way you look at it to hit someone with their back to you is a cowardly and unnecessary act.
as stated on another thread crossan is totally biased for st galls all year and should return to writing about silly junior soocer in north belfast. what a little twat cj is why didnt he try to play football instead of running around after the referee complaining about every decision. cross are no angels thats for sure and once again took no notice to ulster council regulations by not even wearing designated offical bibs and continually encroaching on the field. but good luck to them they know how to get away with it. was the sly dig not noticed by the linesman but im sure the galls water carrier wasnt too bad and im sure had his pint that evening.
Player, Sub, or official i would not be putting in a complaint. I never heard anyone talking about it after the match or in the club afterwards.
Cant be sour grapes either as we were beaten by a better team on the day. As for CJ giving off about the referee, i wouldn't go to press about it but i think the referee tried to lay down an early marker so that the game wouldn't become to hard to control. Some referees do that so that they can have a quieter day.
Wanderer lay off the rant on CJ, me thinks your very jealous of him, or fancy him :D
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 02, 2010, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Disillusioned, you really are a WUM. The statement does not say if it was a player or an official. I also didn't realise you had to have a fitness test to perform water carrying duties, as the duties are very dangerous with the chance of getting struck from behind.
Knowing Harry well, he just probably feels aggrieved no action was taken at the time by the linesman.
I see CJ has lambasted the ref, followed by a onesided view of proceedings from Brendan Crossan, in todays IN. Crossan only seemed to see culprits in Black and Amber.
He is forever bumbing and blowing about the McGourtys, nothing new there.
I think there was apicture in yesterdays Irish News or Irish Star which showed the 'waterboy' on his hole.
In fairness lads, this was a fair heavy hit from behind on a fella not remotely expecting it. A lot of people saw it at the time. It was a cross sub who was steaming up and down the line warming up. impossible to know if there were verbals previously as the player was passing but it was a very heavy hit at full speed.
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 02, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
In fairness lads, this was a fair heavy hit from behind on a fella not remotely expecting it. A lot of people saw it at the time. It was a cross sub who was steaming up and down the line warming up. impossible to know if there were verbals previously as the player was passing but it was a very heavy hit at full speed.
Is yer man Bradley out of hospital yet. ???
Just explaining what i saw cf. The severity of the damage i can't tell you though. It was not a nice piece of work from a player i had never seen that side of before
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Quote from: crossfire on November 02, 2010, 10:09:22 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 02, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
In fairness lads, this was a fair heavy hit from behind on a fella not remotely expecting it. A lot of people saw it at the time. It was a cross sub who was steaming up and down the line warming up. impossible to know if there were verbals previously as the player was passing but it was a very heavy hit at full speed.
Is yer man Bradley out of hospital yet. ???
There you go. It's okay to pull strokes like this if person doesn't get bad injury but then there is uproar when there is a report of someone getting badly hurt. Can't see how we can have it both ways.
LRT Fox
Interpreter needed.
I haven't a clue what you are trying to say.
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 02, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
In fairness lads, this was a fair heavy hit from behind on a fella not remotely expecting it. A lot of people saw it at the time. It was a cross sub who was steaming up and down the line warming up. impossible to know if there were verbals previously as the player was passing but it was a very heavy hit at full speed.
a lot of people saw it at time. ur correct there but you must not have seen it. it happened just at the time of the penalty and it was a cowardly act but not by a player or sub. a lot of people know who it was including neutrals. but im sure cross will identify him. ;)
Half way through the week and not much talk about this weekends match, all concentrating on last weeks events. What's the thoughts on the two teams? Surely Burren must be hot favourites for this one - anyone had a look at the odds today?
First comment on the game. Cross deserved their win, no doubt about that. Majority of people fancied St Galls, i personally had a few quid on the draw. But what breaks a smile with me was the fact the City men thought they'd just turn up in South Armagh with a swagger and sweep Crossmaglen aside but were sent home sore and their tails between their legs.
I don't agree with that guy getting hit on the sideline but Cross laid down a marker early on when Hanratty nailed the midfielder and let them know what was coming. The gaunching to the Ref didn't surprise me one bit, they're prob all Ireland champions at that too.
On this weeks game i think Burren will win by 2-3pts which would set up some game against Crossmaglen, Burren have the players to win the Ulster but def will be some game if they can beat Coleraine...
Quote from: illdecide on November 03, 2010, 11:14:26 AM
First comment on the game. Cross deserved their win, no doubt about that. Majority of people fancied St Galls, i personally had a few quid on the draw. But what breaks a smile with me was the fact the City men thought they'd just turn up in South Armagh with a swagger and sweep Crossmaglen aside but were sent home sore and their tails between their legs.
I don't agree with that guy getting hit on the sideline but Cross laid down a marker early on when Hanratty nailed the midfielder and let them know what was coming. The gaunching to the Ref didn't surprise me one bit, they're prob all Ireland champions at that too.
On this weeks game i think Burren will win by 2-3pts which would set up some game against Crossmaglen, Burren have the players to win the Ulster but def will be some game if they can beat Coleraine...
Who are Burren's star players?
Quote from: supersub on November 03, 2010, 10:35:52 AM
Half way through the week and not much talk about this weekends match, all concentrating on last weeks events. What's the thoughts on the two teams? Surely Burren must be hot favourites for this one - anyone had a look at the odds today?
Evs your pick with the draw a standout 7/1 - this could go either way, but given Down sides recent record in Ulster, I think Coleraine will edge it.
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 03, 2010, 12:04:40 PM
Who are Burren's star players?
Burren1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Quote from: drici on November 03, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 03, 2010, 12:04:40 PM
Who are Burren's star players?
Burren
1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Why is their such high expectations for this Burren team, no real big name players and Down teams have achieved little of late in the Ulster Senior Club.
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 03, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: drici on November 03, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 03, 2010, 12:04:40 PM
Who are Burren's star players?
Burren
1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Why is their such high expectations for this Burren team, no real big name players and Down teams have achieved little of late in the Ulster Senior Club.
Burren have Dan McCartan and Keven McKernan. The above team is full of boys who are well past there best at this stage.
Nrico, have a wee look through the team again...........somehow I don't think that's the team that will line out on Sunday. ;)
I'd say that will be the lineout alright.... :-/
Kevin McKernan, Gerard McCartan, Declan Rooney, James McGovern, Sean Murdock to name but a few!
Strong all round!
Quote from: John Martin on November 03, 2010, 01:09:55 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 03, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: drici on November 03, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 03, 2010, 12:04:40 PM
Who are Burren's star players?
Burren
1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Why is their such high expectations for this Burren team, no real big name players and Down teams have achieved little of late in the Ulster Senior Club.
Burren have Dan McCartan and Keven McKernan. The above team is full of boys who are well past there best at this stage.
Burren shouldn't let go of that centre half back. My view would be that they should appoint him as their 2011 manager.
Thon full forward should not be let out of Burren either..............
Quote from: mackers on November 03, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
Thon full forward should not be let out of Burren either..............
I think he'd weather any storm that he faced!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2010, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 03, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
Thon full forward should not be let out of Burren either..............
I think he'd weather any storm that he faced!
There'll be storm clouds ahead should he miss work on Monday
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 03, 2010, 01:18:18 PM
Burren shouldn't let go of that centre half back. My view would be that they should appoint him as their 2011 manager.
Jesus Tac, we'd be lost then...
Paddy Power odds to win Ulster Club:
Crossmaglen 1/2
Naomh Conaill 5/1
Coalisland 11/2
Coleraine 8/1
Burren 9/1
Quote from: Aaron Boone on November 03, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
Paddy Power odds to win Ulster Club:
Crossmaglen 1/2
Naomh Conaill 5/1
Coalisland 11/2
Coleraine 8/1
Burren 9/1
Stupid odds.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2010, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on November 03, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
Paddy Power odds to win Ulster Club:
Crossmaglen 1/2
Naomh Conaill 5/1
Coalisland 11/2
Coleraine 8/1
Burren 9/1
Stupid odds.
Ridiculous. Cross 1/4 for both the semi-final and final. Crazy. Value in Coleraine or Burren.
Burren are very good value at 9/1
Glenties second favourites. They are having a laugh!
Quote from: Joxer on November 03, 2010, 02:37:32 PM
Burren are very good value at 9/1
Glenties second favourites. They are having a laugh!
I was thinking they were a pretty good price - no??
Jez lump the house on burren at that price! No?
Quote from: supersub on November 03, 2010, 03:43:40 PM
Jez lump the house on burren at that price! No?
Not much point if they are beaten.
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 03, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: supersub on November 03, 2010, 03:43:40 PM
Jez lump the house on burren at that price! No?
Not much point if they are beaten.
very good... figure of speech...good bite though
Will Morgan be available to play for Cross after gettin one yellow and then a red....?
Tony McEntee said after the game it was two yellows, said the same in all the match reports too. Never seen the second yellow myself
Quote from: gander on November 04, 2010, 08:46:30 AM
Tony McEntee said after the game it was two yellows, said the same in all the match reports too. Never seen the second yellow myself
Snap. Pretty sure he was only shown a red, but you'd assume it was supposed to be after a second yellow.
Are Cross appealing Hanratty's red? Whatever about his other activities during the game, he shouldn't have been sent off for that challenge.
Quote from: AFS on November 04, 2010, 09:10:03 AM
Quote from: gander on November 04, 2010, 08:46:30 AM
Tony McEntee said after the game it was two yellows, said the same in all the match reports too. Never seen the second yellow myself
Snap. Pretty sure he was only shown a red, but you'd assume it was supposed to be after a second yellow.
Are Cross appealing Hanratty's red? Whatever about his other activities during the game, he shouldn't have been sent off for that challenge.
Think they are but not sure.
Burren looking forward to playing Cross from reports I heard.
Oisin Scores – Hearty saves to put Cross back on the big stage
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-12 St. Galls 0-09
Crossmaglen Rangers players and mentors lined up to form a guard of honour onto the pitch as Ulster and All-Ireland champions St Gall's came to Oliver Plunkett Park for a tough opening towards the retention of their titles. But the guard of honour was the only respect bestowed upon the visitors as the challengers hunted, harried, chased, withstood some hefty challengers, played a lot of decent football from the first to the last whistle to deservingly defeat the champions 1-12 to 0-09.
From the moment David McKenna fetched the throw-in from referee Joe McQuillan, St Gall's were on the back foot and playing catchup for the remainder of the game. Cross brought in Mickey McNamee for Martin Aherne, from the team on the programme, but it was the two pre match changes by the champions which seemed to knock them off their usual composed selves which saw them embark on a very indisciplined and costly first half performance. Karl Stewart came in for Kevin McGourty in attack with Brendan Martin replacing Paul Veronica at corner back.
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Hallow'een is a magical time but spectators at this Ulster quarter final were immediately treated to some daytime magic from the old maestro himself, the legendary Oisin McConville. Oisin fired over the opening score from the foul on McKenna and 3 minutes later he grabbed his second from play, as good a score as any he contributed over the years and the benchmark was already set by Gall's chief tormentor in their last meeting. In between those two opening points Gall's Terry O'Neil was very lucky to escape with only a yellow in an off the ball incident with Tony Kernan. 5 minutes in CJ McGourty opened the visitors account with a pointed free following a pick off the ground but that was quickly cancelled by a brace of frees from Oisin following fouls on Francis Hanratty and Mickey McNamee.
Out of sorts by his own high standards these few games Aaron Kernan was back to his best today with his long probing runs cutting right through the Antrim holders defence to set up scores. Midfielder David McKenna another whose form also returned was the first benefactor of a defence splitting Aaron run as he made it 5-1 with a point off the upright. CJ McGourty took a short free, got the pass back, before disecting the posts to reduce the deficit. Stephen Finnegan broke forward but was hauled down by Karl Stewart who picked up a yellow, as Oisin pointed the free. Midway through the half the visitors got their best score of the game as Sean Kelly came from deep in his own defence with a great run to leave it double scores 6-3. Cross were on top but Tony Kernan over ran a possible goal chance wide, the first of the match which was quickly followed by two more from Mickey McNamee
On twenty minutes Aaron stretched the lead to 4 points converting a free for a foul on McNamee. A minute later a sweet move involving Tony Kernan and Oisin saw McConville play in McNamee for another Rangers point. The match had been simmering from the off with few expecting it to finish 15 a side and that was confirmed on 22 minutes when, the already booked Stewart, got involved off the ball with Finnegan and on the word of the linesman he was sent packing. Probably realising the folly of his actions he headed straight to the dressing rooms in disgust. Two minutes later the kept busy Ref McQuillan, through no fault of his own dished out another brace of yellow cards to James Morgan and CJ McGourty. No sooner had he the card back in his pocket it was out again for Morgan who made a very rash inexperienced challenge which brought a second yellow followed by a red. The drama did not stop there as in the very next attack Cross were awarded a penalty. A high punt at a point from McNamee was dropping short with McKenna homing in on it as Gall's goalkeeper Gallagher advance to claim the ball. Sean Kelly bundled over McKenna leaving the ref no choice but to award a penalty. Oisin would have hit better penalties that did not go in but this one did go in off the body of Gallagher to stretch the Cross lead 1-8 to 0-3 Michael Pollock replied with a point from play for the champions. McNamee let a goal chance go as the ball slipped from his grasp from a good Aaron Kernan pass. Rangers skipper Paul McKeown under the cosh from Gall's best player Kevin Niblock can count himself lucky for yellow following a dangerous head high challenge. As Francie Bellew entered the match for Aaron Cunningham CJ McGourty brought a half, full of talking points, to a close with a wide as Cross led the champions 1-8 (1-5 from frees) to 0-4 (2 frees) at the short whistle.
Whatever had spooked the champions they were a pale imitation of the side that had done so well the previous year with their discipline letting them down big time, as they tried to adopt a physical approach, as opposed to their usual style of play. Cross could have put them out of sight in the opening half and it would need more from them, than slight wind assistance, for the second half, if they were to get back into the match.
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The Shaftie side introduced Kevin McGourty, for Pollock, for the second half and given the way he played one wonders what had stopped him from starting in the first place as he coverd the pitch trying to get his team back into the match. McKenna again won the throw-in and the ball was worked down to new full forward Francie Bellew. Holding off a few strong challenges Francie picked out Oisin with the ball and he started this half like the first with the opening point. Gall's were denied a goal by alert captain McKeown who cleared off the line from Niblock after a miss judgement by Hearty (which was his only blemish on an outstanding performance). C J pointed for Gall's following a foul on Niblock but Rangers reply was swift as Aaron Kernan played a one two with Francis Hanratty before pointing to make it 1-10 to 0-5. Brendan McKeown came in for his captain in his first Cross start since breaking his leg as Mark Kelly came in for Gall's midfielder Sean Burke
Gall's enjoyed their best spell of the match in the next 10 minutes. Niblock steered a "45″ between the sticks. A routine catch by Francie Bellew spilled from his grasp and on instinct reacted by pulling Rory Gallagher, a penalty lifeline for the holders. Kevin Niblock struck a low shot but Hearty stretched his big frame to get down and execute an excellent save, which was followed by a free out. Eventhough CJ reduced the deficit to 6 points 1-10 to 0-7 with a converted free with 20 minurtes left on the clock one sensed that the golden opportunity to launch a fightback had passed. Paul and Stephen Kernan worked the ball out of defence with Stephen surveying his options before letting David McKenna in for his second point of the afternoon. County final hero Kyle Carragher came in for McNamee and Kieran McGourty was replaced by Sean Burns for Gall's. One of the biggest cheers of the day was reserved for the return of John McEntee. The rumours all week proved to be true as he came out of retirement to come in for Francie Bellew who had come in for some tough treatment since he himself entered the fray. It was John who ended a six minute scoreless spell with a point, following good work by Tony Kernan 1-12 to 0-07. Cj lofted over a point his teams first score for 11 minutes. Gallagher saved from Aaron Kernan at the expense of a "45″ which was put wide by Tony Kernan, Rangers fourth wide of the half. Paul Hearty pushed away a goalbound effort from substitute Darren O'Hare. Kyle Carragher had a point attempt come back off the upright as a shoulder charge by Jonny Hanratty on Niblock in the last minutes saw a harsh straight red produced. Niblock whose only blemish on the day was the penalty miss scored the free which brought the game to an end 1-12 to 0-9.
Unimpressive in their Armagh campaign Cross were a different breed against St Gall's. They work hard throughout the field and their new style of football is beginning to show a better blending with every outing. As I said in my match preview this Cross team deserve to be judged on their own merits not those of previous teams. The quality on the bench is keeping those on the field on their toes. The four old stalwarts Paul, Francie, Oisin and John survivors from 1996 are going as strong as ever but as always Cross pride themselves on their collectiveness. The Armagh champions are through to an Ulster semi-final meeting with either Burren (Down) or Eoghan Rua (Derry) on Nov 14.
As Man of the Match Oisin said to me after the match "We need to learn to be a bit cuter to kill off the game when it's there". That's the secret of good champions always looking and seeking to learn regardless of what you have done before.
Rangers Team: P Hearty; P McKeown; P Kernan; J Morgan; A Kernan (0 – 02); D O'Callaghan; S Finnegan; J Hanratty; D McKenna (0 – 02); T Kernan; S Kernan; F Hanratty; M McNamee (0 – 01); A Cunningham; O McConville (1 – 06). Subs: F Bellew for A Cunningham; B McKeown for P McKeown; K Carragher for M McNamee; J McEntee (0 – 01) for F Bellew; M Aherne for F Hanratty
right bit of chat in today's off the fence in the IN about the cross St Galls game, Cross coming in for a right bashing
Quoteright bit of chat in today's off the fence in the IN about the cross St Galls game, Cross coming in for a right bashing
All the IN journos contributed then, did they?
coleraine are a solid bet at 11/10 with ladbrokes.
Coleraine by 3/4, theyll have far too much pace for Burren
Quote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2010, 10:56:10 AM
Quoteright bit of chat in today's off the fence in the IN about the cross St Galls game, Cross coming in for a right bashing
All the IN journos contributed then, did they?
Poor wee St Galls getting bullied by those bad men from Crossmaglen.
It amazes me how blind some people can be. From what I seen at the match St Galls were just as guilty, if not more so of the off the ball stuff. The soft frees for cross that the papers have been crying about were due to the lack of discipline from the St Galls players. Cynical tackles that cost them in the end up. The only reason they were soft frees is because they left the referee with no choice but to award them.
I agree with that el cuervo. Watching it on the TV i didnt think that there was much dirt. Maybe i couldn see some of the off the ball stuff, but what I did see St Galls were up to just as much as cross. Dont recall seeing any scoreable soft frees given against St Galls, some tackles were poor and unesessary, as scores from play are very difficult this time of year. However the boy on the line getting dunted by the cross sub was totally uncalled for, and i see no justification for it. There should action taken for it. This was not just a club championship game, this was a game played by two of the best club sides there has been in this country and watched by many, an advertisement for our games, and things like that off the pitch should not be accepted.
St Galls discipline in the tackle, particularly first half, was shocking. It wasn't like these were cynical tackles - they were minor things like jersey pulls etc. You can't win games against teams with top class free takers when you're at that kind of behaviour.
There was nothing significantly cynical in them though.
I thought Cross looked like they were *potentially* at some off the ball stuff. St Galls have a few mouthy guys though so even if Cross were at a wee bit of it they may have just complained like hell.
Hard no know - no one side any guiltier than the other to be honest. Cross deserved to have their men sent off and Galls deserved theirs.
Jaysus but the standard of sports writing in the cross examiner is brutal
good luck to burren 2morro. wud luv 2 see them beating coleraine just so they coulld get a crack at cross.
Having spoke to the victim of the shove (some slagging i can tell ya) it was not a sub but the assistant manager. Harry was knocked out due to the force and the fact that he didnt see it coming! Takes a brave man to do that....
Does anyone know if there is a game before the Burren game?
Quote from: swing-er-over on November 04, 2010, 07:35:26 PM
coleraine are a solid bet at 11/10 with ladbrokes.
Coleraine by 3/4, theyll have far too much pace for Burren
you sure know your stuff!!!! hope you didnt lose too much. burren won easy 1-12 to 0-6
Burren's half forward line was lethal today, especially Eamonn McGovern, my MOTM. He got through some work, used the ball well and put over a few points (three I think?).
Be interesting to see how they do against Cross now, their half back line will do well to contain them.
Brokencrossbar not been on yet to say how Burren are hot favs? :)
Quote from: bennydorano on November 07, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
Brokencrossbar not been on yet to say how Burren are hot favs? :)
Raging hot, have been too busy watching the Liverpool game!
I did say it earlier in the thread that I think Burren are going to be the dark horses this year and will be very hard to beat. Cross will be missing Jamie as we know and unless there is an appeal in, Johnny Hanratty. Despite people's reservations about Johnny I think he plays a very keep role for the team and will be missed. He does an awful lot of the grafting that allows Titch to play. Cross are obviously going to be bookies favourites but Burren will be on a high from today's win and given that they have been talking all week about beating Cross I am sure they will be very confident.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 07, 2010, 06:04:32 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 07, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
Brokencrossbar not been on yet to say how Burren are hot favs? :)
Raging hot, have been too busy watching the Liverpool game!
I did say it earlier in the thread that I think Burren are going to be the dark horses this year and will be very hard to beat. Cross will be missing Jamie as we know and unless there is an appeal in, Johnny Hanratty. Despite people's reservations about Johnny I think he plays a very keep role for the team and will be missed. He does an awful lot of the grafting that allows Titch to play. Cross are obviously going to be bookies favourites but Burren will be on a high from today's win and given that they have been talking all week about beating Cross I am sure they will be very confident.
Who is the Cross HB line?
AK - O'Callaghan - ???
Finnegan?
Cross v Burren be worth going to, despite BCB's propaganda I reckon Cross will have the experience to sneak the win, the game v Gall's will stand to them whereas I don't think Burren can have learnt much today judging by that result.
Stephen Finnegan has been playing there this year. Good player but he and Paul McKeown under a bit of pressure now that Skinny is fit.
What propaganda? I said Cross will be favourites but that Burren will be tough to beat!! Even when I am not playing games I get accused of it ;)
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 07, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
Finnegan?
Cross v Burren be worth going to, despite BCB's propaganda I reckon Cross will have the experience to sneak the win, the game v Gall's will stand to them whereas I don't think Burren can have learnt much today judging by that result.
You are right, they didn't get tested at all today. Coleraine's forward line was very poor.
The 'fastest man on two legs' (I swear that is how someone described him at the match today) Mullan did nothing. Don't believe the hype.
BCB sure I thought this was Dromintee's year! I'd love to see Clans get to the final next year, you wouldn't keep a straight face typing that sorta stuff! Burren will ask a lot of questions though, probably the best attacking team I have seen this year.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 07, 2010, 06:40:05 PM
BCB sure I thought this was Dromintee's year! I'd love to see Clans get to the final next year, you wouldn't keep a straight face typing that sorta stuff! Burren will ask a lot of questions though, probably the best attacking team I have seen this year.
I did before ;D
With all this talk about Burren and cross I would love to be the winner of the other semi final as they have just been purely dismissed.. went to the game today, thought Burren were extremely well organised, they worked exceptionally hard, they have a terrific game plan and get a lot of men behind the ball quickly, Cross will find this hard to break down especially without their star forward, I wouldnt install Cross as favourites, if anything I would have Burren as raging hot favourites after the way they clinically disposed of Coleraine today.. Frank Dawson is really proving his worth as a top class manager and maybe could find himself in intercounty management soon...
Quote from: redandblackareback on November 07, 2010, 07:18:13 PM
Burren were extremely well organised, they worked exceptionally hard, they have a terrific game plan and get a lot of men behind the ball quickly, Cross will find this hard to break down especially without their star forward, I wouldnt install Cross as favourites, if anything I would have Burren as raging hot favourites after the way they clinically disposed of Coleraine today.. Frank Dawson is really proving his worth as a top class manager and maybe could find himself in intercounty management soon...
I agree with that. Cross will find it tough and the momentum that Burren have will be a great advantage. Given the players Cross are missing with suspensions and injuries I reckon Burren will take it by 3-4.
Yes BC1 I think Burren will win this one handy enough, Cross are too young and in bonus territory at the minute they will be just happy for the experience of Ulster Club football.
Frank Dawson played for St Galls Hurlling and football is a shrewd enough manager and he was Cross last week taking notes (what manager wouldn't?) so Cross are in for a hiding for sure.
the momentum that Burren have and the inside knowledge that the Armagh manager will have given them will undoubtedly be their down fall
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2010, 07:55:23 PM
Yes BC1 I think Burren will win this one handy enough, Cross are too young and in bonus territory at the minute they will be just happy for the experience of Ulster Club football.
Frank Dawson played for St Galls Hurlling and football is a shrewd enough manager and he was Cross last week taking notes (what manager wouldn't?) so Cross are in for a hiding for sure.
the momentum that Burren have and the inside knowledge that the Armagh manager will have given them will undoubtedly be their down fall
Commiserations about last week, I never properly said hard luck. Frank is a shrewd manager and has been around a good few blocks and will have all bases covered and avenues blocked. He will have an Ace in the Pack in POR giving him the inside line on the Cross team and his tactical nous will be invaluable in toppling this particular Apple Cart.
Anyway, I reckon this will be a hard one to call, not Burren's to lose but certainly their's to win.
Was at the game today & have to say was shocked at how poor Coleraine were. You would just hope they had an off day or it says an awful lot about the decline of Club Football in Derry.
Burren weren't tested at all apart from the first 15 mins & therefore very little can be taken out of the game in terms of Burren v Crossmaglen.
Coleraine seemed intent on winning good ball, especially around Midfield were they dominated, but would then time & time again give away cheap ball. Their forward line had no threat whatsoever apart from McGoldrick at 11.
Burren were far more direct & provided good ball for their forwards to attack in space. But I cant see Cross giving Burren the respect or the space that Coleraine afforded them today. Id say Cross will get in Burrens faces more in terms of intensive tackling & pressure on the man on the ball, which at times was no existent.
Hard to call next week but it should be a closely fought game.
Is Shorty Trainor still playing for Burren?
Quote from: Jinxy on November 07, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
Is Shorty Trainor still playing for Burren?
Are you serious?
Quote from: Jinxy on November 07, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
Is Shorty Trainor still playing for Burren?
Burren1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Quote from: drici on November 07, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
Burren
1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Houl on - just flicked back to the front of the programme containing the Burren team.
Has Sunday November 13th, 1983 written on it.
Davitt Park Lurgan.
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Final.
There may be one or two positional changes since then on the current Burren St Marys side.
think they played us in the Ulster final that year, we won 82 and got beat the following year
Quote from: guevara on November 07, 2010, 10:35:50 PM
Was at the game today & have to say was shocked at how poor Coleraine were. You would just hope they had an off day or it says an awful lot about the decline of Club Football in Derry.
Burren weren't tested at all apart from the first 15 mins & therefore very little can be taken out of the game in terms of Burren v Crossmaglen.
It happens in club football this time of the year, remember mayobrdge got an awful hammering from Ballinderry about 4/5 years ago, something 20 to 03 or so. Things go against them and especially for a team like coleraine who had surpassed their wildest expectations, they just decide that enough's enough.
They were very impressive at times in derry, but a more experienced, solid all round side would probably have performed better today.
Quote from: drici on November 07, 2010, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: drici on November 07, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
Burren
1 Declan Murdock
2 Pat Murtagh
3 Aidan Murdock
4 Malachy Murdock
5 Kieran McConville
6 Paddy O'Rourke
7 Brendan McGovern
8 Charley Doyle
9 Tommy McGovern
10 Gerard Murdock
11 John Treanor
12 Tony McArdle
13 Jim McGreevy
14 Frank McClorey
15 Vincent McGovern
Subs:
16 Seamus Murdock
17 Séamus Fegan
18 Willie McMahon
19 Larry Fitzpatrick
20 Gervase Poland
21 Noel Millar
Houl on - just flicked back to the front of the programme containing the Burren team.
Has Sunday November 13th, 1983 written on it.
Davitt Park Lurgan.
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Final.
There may be one or two positional changes since then on the current Burren St Marys side.
That number 14 was some player.
Anyone know what he's doing these days? I heard someone say that he was under the weather and in a right royal mess.
St Gall's and Burren played out a low-scoring but hotly-contested final on a very heavy pitch in Lurgan in the 83 final and my memory is that it went to a replay before Burren won. Aidan Murdock and big PJ O'Hare had quite a battle on the edge of the square, but Burren were a fantastic team at that stage. They went to Cross and won along the way, and are capable of another big performance next week. This year's Burren side is not as physically strong as the 1980s version but they
have great pace and are very well organised. Eoin McCartan gives them a touch of quality when he comes on, and he is due a bit of decent luck.
Quote from: redandblackareback on November 07, 2010, 07:18:13 PM
With all this talk about Burren and cross I would love to be the winner of the other semi final as they have just been purely dismissed.. went to the game today, thought Burren were extremely well organised, they worked exceptionally hard, they have a terrific game plan and get a lot of men behind the ball quickly, Cross will find this hard to break down especially without their star forward, I wouldnt install Cross as favourites, if anything I would have Burren as raging hot favourites after the way they clinically disposed of Coleraine today.. Frank Dawson is really proving his worth as a top class manager and maybe could find himself in intercounty management soon...
Has he not managed the County Hurlers in the past? or does that not count?
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship
Preliminary Round
Strabane Shamrocks(Tyrone) 0-08 Seán MacCumhaills Ballybofey/Stranorlar(Donegal) 0-18
Quarter Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua(Armagh) 2-09 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 2-06
Seán MacCumhaills 3-16 v Clonduff(Down) 1-05
Inniskeen Grattans(Monaghan) 2-17 Lisnaskea Emmets(Fermanagh) 0-08
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14
Semi Finals
Camloch Craobh Rua 1-09 Inniskeen Grattans 0-16
Cloughmills St Brigids 0-18 Seán MacCumhaills 0-15
24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Final
Cloughmills St Brigids 1-09 Inniskeen Grattans 0-14
Casement Park
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship
Quarter Final
Carrickmore Éire Óg(Tyrone) 1-21 Bredagh(Down) 0-03
Semi Finals
St Johns(Antrim) 5-14 Lisbellaw St Patricks(Fermanagh) 0-09
Cúchulainns(Armagh) 3-10 Carrickmore Éire Óg 7-11
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Final
St Johns 2-11 Carrickmore Éire Óg 1-11
St Johns 2-11 (M O'Neill 0-2, G Clarke 0-1, L Boyle 2-1, B McFall 0-7(4 frees, 1 sideline cut))
Éire Óg 1-11 (J Kerr 0-5(3 frees), A Kelly 0-2(2 frees), J Kelly 0-3(a point from the penalty), C Grogan 1-1)
Casement Park
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Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Semi Finals
Loughgiel Shamrocks(Antrim) 2-17 Ballygalget John Mitchels(Down) 2-06
Keady Lámh Dhearg(Armagh) 1-15 Lavey Erins Own(Derry) 2-10
24-10-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Final
Loughgiel Shamrocks 2-24 Keady Lámh Dhearg 0-06
Casement Park
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) 1-12 Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) 1-12 After Extra Time
Full Time: Killyman St Marys 1-09 Corduff Gaels 1-09
Preliminary Round Replay
Corduff Gaels 1-10 Killyman St Marys 0-07
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Swanlinbar St Marys(Cavan) 4-16 Ardmore St Marys(Derry) 2-06
Maguiresbridge St Marys(Fermanagh) 1-07 Drumaness St Colmans(Down) 1-14
Grange St Colmcilles(Armagh) 0-13 Cardinal O'Donnells(Antrim) 0-05
Corduff Gaels 1-08 Newtowncunningham Naomh Colmcille(Donegal) 0-06
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Semi Finals:
Swanlinbar v Drumaness St Colmans
12-45pm Omagh
Eugene McConnell
Grange St Colmcilles v Corduff Gaels
12-45pm Casement Park
B Cassidy
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Doohamlet O'Neills(Monaghan) 1-12 Bundoran Réalt na Mara(Donegal) 1-10
Quarter Finals:
30-10-10 (Saturday)
Derrytrasna Sarsfields(Armagh) 0-08 Doohamlet O'Neills 1-10
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Tullylish(Down) 1-08 Lisnaskea Emmetts(Fermanagh) 2-12
Rasharkin St Marys(Antrim) 1-10 Castledawson St Malachys(Derry) 0-11
Drumalee(Cavan) 0-16 Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys(Tyrone) 2-15 After Extra Time
Full Time: Drumalee 0-12 Derrylaughan 1-09
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts v Rasharkin St Marys
2-30pm Omagh
Seamus McGonigle
Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys v Doohamlet O'Neills
12-45pm Brewster Park
Jimmy Galligan
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) 0-11 Naomh Conaill(Donegal) 1-12
Kingscourt 0-11 (C Smith 0-1, B Reilly 0-3(1 free), J McMahon 0-1, T Malone 0-1, R McCormack 0-5)
Naomh Conaill 1-12 (A Thompson 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, B McDyre 0-1, L McLoone 1-0, D Gallagher 0-2(2 frees), J O'Malley 0-2, D (B) Molloy 0-4(1 free), L Thompson 0-1)
O Raghallaigh Park
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 Sunday
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-12 St Galls(Antrim) 0-09
Crossmaglen 1-12 (A Kernan 0-2(1 free), D McKenna 0-2, M McNamee 0-1, O McConville 1-6(goal from penalty, 4 frees), J McEntee 0-1)
St Galls 0-09 (S Kelly 0-1, M Pollock 0-1, CJ McGourty 0-5(3 frees), K Niblock 0-2(1 fifty, 1 free)
Crossmaglen
Coalisland Na Fianna(Tyrone) 1-10 Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-07
Coalisland 1-10 (J Curran(goalkeeper) 0-1(a fifty), P Toner 0-2, P Kane 0-1, S Curran 0-1, B Toner 0-1, P McNeice 0-1, T O'Hagan 1-1, D Thornton 0-2(1 free))
Roslea 1-07 (Séamus Quigley 0-6(4 frees, 1 fifty), Seán Quigley 1-1)
Omagh
Naomh Conaill 2-12 Clontibret O'Neills(Monaghan) 0-09
Naomh Conaill 2-12 (E Wade 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, L McLoone 0-1, D Gallagher 0-1, D (B) Molloy 1-5(4 frees, 1 fifty), L Thompson 1-3)
Clontibret 0-09 (A Rooney 0-1, V Corey 0-1, C McManus 0-7(6 frees))
Ballybofey
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Burren St Marys(Down) 1-12 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 0-05
Burren 1-12 (C Murdock(goalkeeper) 0-1(a free), Conal McGovern 0-2, J McGovern 0-1, E McGovern 0-3, S Murdock 1-3(1 free), E Toner 0-2)
Eoghan Rua 0-05 (B McGoldrick 0-4(3 frees), Ciaran McGoldrick 0-1)
Páirc Esler
14-11-10 Sunday
Semi Finals:
Crossmaglen Rangers v Burren St Marys
2-30pm Casement Park
Jimmy White
Coalisland Na Fianna v Naomh Conaill
2-30pm Brewster Park
Martin Higgins
Final:
Sunday November 28th
Final in Casement Park.
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on November 08, 2010, 03:02:39 PM
Final in Casement Park.
Quote from: drici on October 28, 2010, 08:32:18 PM
Preliminary Round:
November 28th (Sunday)
Omagh St Endas(Tyrone) v Lámh Dhearg(Antrim)
1-30pm
Hmmm, that would be messy.
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on November 08, 2010, 03:02:39 PM
Final in Casement Park.
You sure about that Kiddo??
I would say if the Donegal team wins there is a fair chance that Omagh may get it.
Fond Memories Evoked
CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS v BURREN (DOWN)
Nov 3rd, 1996 has little meaning or recall for most people but for Crossmaglen Rangers people all over the globe that Sunday afternoon has become sacrosanct in that it heralded a chapter in the club's history which no one could ever have imagined in their wildest dreams.
Cross were after capturing their first Armagh championship in 10 years a month previous with an emphatic 3-14 to 1-4 win over Clan Na Gael and had knocked out the reigning Ulster Club Champions Mullaghbawn on their way to that county title. But the Kingpins of Ulster Club Football, Down champions Burren, competition winners in 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987 and 1988 were coming to St Oliver Plunkett Park to really test these new kids on the block.The kids caused an upset on a day of drama 0-12 to 1-8 with the visitors spurning a last minute levelling free. A year later the teams crossed swords in the competition in Newry, Rangers won this time 3-09 to 2-08 and they have not met since but Cross have climbed to the top of the Ulster club championship tree with 7 titles sparked by that Nov 3rd, 1996 triumph.
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So Sunday's encounter at Casement Park is a complete reversal of the 1996 senario with Cross now the team to be knocked off their lofty perch, especially following their opening round win over the defending Ulster and All-Ireland champions, St Gall's. Burren have not tasted success in Down until this year since the teams last met. Cross have won 14 of the last 15 Armagh titles contrasting fortunes indeed.
When one considers the amount of top level club football Rangers have been involved in, let alone that played by their players on County duty it is amazing to see that Cross are carrying five survivors from the squad involved that day against Burren. Tony McEntee is current joint manager with Gareth O Neill, twin brother John has made a timely return out of retirement for the Ulster campaign. Paul Hearty is back between the sticks after losing out through injury to Jarlath McConville that day in Cross. Francie Bellew, who operated at centre half back 15 years ago is still a vital cog that has been slotting in regularly over the course of the championship. Leading marksman Oisin McConville is still picking up Man of the Match awards at 35 years of age.
Burren beat Bryansford in the Down final 1-14 to 1-13. On Sunday they easily disposed of the Coleraine challenge 1-12 to 0-5 having led 0-6 to 0-3 at half-time. The match was delayed a week to allow the Down side's most destinguished player, Kevin McKernan, play international rules for Ireland.While McKernan may be to the fore for club and county this Burren team is full of household names from yesteryear as sons, relations of some of the clubs famed players are anxious to begin a new chapter for the Down side.The Burren club have a lot of history, including twice winning the All-Ireland Championship. Manager, Frank Dawson said: "This team has tons of ability and will not be held back by the past but will be looking to create their own history. We obviously will be well aware of Crossmaglen but we will be focusing on our own game."
Cross will again be minus the services of the suspended Jamie Clarke and will be hopeful that their appeal against the Johnny Hanratty red card against St Gall's will prove successful, leaving him available to continue his midfield role. But With John McEntee back in the fold, very reliable defender Brendan McKeown getting some very valuable match time last time out on his long road to recovery from injury, Rangers look pretty solid.
Cross will be wary that they are now the hot favourites having been underdogs on their own patch last time out. Burren are the ones with nothing to lose and all to gain. The quality to be sprung from the Rangers dugout is very formidable in comparison to what others have to offer. The " old hands" in Cross have a batch of players just below them who have a wealth of experience and then there are a tasty few novices included. They have been around the block once too often to be caught by complacency and once their nostrils get a whiff of success they become a different breed of animal. The team that beat St Gall's were a transformed side from the one which struggled to overcome St Pat's. Burren have made great progress but will find Rangers a step beyond them in their bid to rekindle the glory days. After a year's absence Cross to book their eighth Ulster final appearance since 1996.
Burren Coleraine highlights
http://www.u.tv/Sport/Burren-cruise-to-Ulster-semis/3ad0373d-c8d9-4e84-a262-f0bc89374803
As much as it kills me to say it ,I Think Burren will win on Sunday!! They played excellent football the weekend and Cross should be very wary of them!
Who is the number 12 for Burren, looked to have had some game!
Eamon Mc Govern.
If Hanratty plays, will this be the guy he will be targeting for "special treatment" ;)
Quote from: HiMucker on November 10, 2010, 10:26:28 AM
If Hanratty plays, will this be the guy he will be targeting for "special treatment" ;)
We have had enough shit stirring from L'Derry for one week.
Quote from: HiMucker on November 10, 2010, 10:26:28 AM
If Hanratty plays, will this be the guy he will be targeting for "special treatment" ;)
I don't think Johhny targets anyone for "special treatment". He is not really choosy about who he targets ;D
The L stands for Legenderry ;D. UK city of culture, an easier and more importantly, legal way of getting tax revenue of teh Brits than fuel smuggling ;)
Quote from: HiMucker on November 10, 2010, 11:17:42 AM
The L stands for Legenderry ;D. UK city of culture, an easier and more importantly, legal way of getting tax revenue of teh Brits than fuel smuggling ;)
In fairness the Brits built Crossmaglen a new pitch and stand as well.
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 10, 2010, 11:23:31 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 10, 2010, 11:17:42 AM
The L stands for Legenderry ;D. UK city of culture, an easier and more importantly, legal way of getting tax revenue of teh Brits than fuel smuggling ;)
In fairness the Brits built Crossmaglen a new pitch and stand as well.
And didn't they do a great job!!!!!
Looking forward to the Cross/Burren game, the football last week between crokes and portlaoise was crap until midway through the second half, and that other shite with the two connacht teams in red was a pain so didn't even try to watch it. with tg4 showing hurling this weekend do people think there'd be a market for an Ulster GAA channel? instead of that bhearna baoil or whatever the f**k it is BBC could possibly broadcast an Ulster game as Gaeilge once a week for the club championship? have tg4 exclusive rights for club games or what?
Sure it's only a matter of time till Jerome starts streaming his videos live on the internet ;)
Shows the way things torun up again unexpectedly. About five of us in Cross a few years ago taking shelter from the wind and the hail and the sort of weather Pablo the Little Red Fox deals with at the start of the cartoon so we head into the club for a pint, soup and a pint and sandwiches and a pint before the match and there are no seats to get us all sitting together except beside this oul lad so we says sure he'll hardly mind and bounce over and he says aye sit down no problem. Anyway, said his name was Eugene and he was seventy eight and was great craic and knew loads of people - especially stories about union men - and we got more drink because of the weather and the craic. Had to hurry up in the end for Amhrán na bhFiann. Looks at the paper the day and sure isn't it Eugene of the same surname after emailing into them(page 52) about comments that were made last week and he's 82 now though he never said nor sounded Belfast in conversation though that's probably a way of putting things for the paper to sound distant and impartial. If you look in the shades of green box in the middle, Stuarty won a County jersey this week for doing Mise Éire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6qTV6D4byE and Requiem for the Croppies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv4ifmS7H20 on the Flying Column CD that everybody has though it would have been class if he'd done the beep-beeps on Johnston's Motor Car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5dg4MlHU2A as well . Glad he's keeping sound anyway and will be keeping an eye out for Eugene on Sunday. The Rangers v St Marys match will probably be on the radio so Beo will most likely just do the St Colmcilles v Gaels match on the Latest Scores. Enough of these types of posts anyway - back to Torthaí and Cluichí.
Tis the same Eugene, a Union man all his life and an old friend of mine and my father. Fanatical about Cross and as he said God willing he will be wherever Cross are playing. Not a Belfast man but has lived there fore as long as I know. Quiet around here in the build up to two big games.
Should be a good game alright BC1, think after the last few games that have been on TV were shite, so this one should be the pick of the games. Question is should i go to Casement and watch? or stay in and watch the hurling games?
Thing is I'm a hurling man so my decision seems to be made. Is the game on Ulster radio? that will help, watch the hurling and listen to the football!! the wife will surely love me ;D
Totally missed up with predictions last week. Fancied Coleranie to be closer at the finish and thought Kilmacud would have won by more!! No clubs left in the Championship from last year, maybe one (Waterford Champions) so i expect a whole new pairing for the semi finals.
Naomh Conaill's adventure continues with Coalisland test
Ulster Senior Club Championship Semi Final
Naomh Conaill v Coalisland
Brewster Park - Sunday, 2.30pm
County champions Naomh Conaill have been on a roll in Ulster
By Tom Comack
Naomh Conaill are bidding to go where no Donegal club side has dreamed to dare in close on two decades when they go toe to toe with Tyrone champions Coalisland in the Ulster senior club semi-final at Brewster Park in Enniskillen on Sunday.
Na Cealla Beaga in 1991 were the last Donegal side to experience an Ulster club final, which they lost to Castleblaney Faughs of Monaghan, with both Na Ceithre Maistirí in 2003 and Naomh Adhamhnáin in 2008 the only clubs from the county to go close in the new millennium.
(http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/Upload/DNGL//TH1_1111201027NC.jpg)
A preliminary round victory over Cavan champions Kingscourt and a first round proper win over Clontibret has set Naomh Conaill up for a crack at a place in the final. Given the momentum gained in the victories over the Cavan and Monaghan champions is now under their belts, the Glenties side hope to use that to their advantage against the O'Neill County winners, who have only one game played in the province in the first outing in Ulster in 20 years. That a 1-10 to 1-7 victory over Roslea from Fermanagh.
Since they escaped from Donegal, Naomh Conaill have upped their game in a big way and have showed scintillating form in their two games to date and this is especially so when it comes to the forward division, who have clocked up 1-12 against Kingscourt and 2-11 in their game with Clontibret.
"We are in a very good place and have shown good form in Ulster so far," said Naomh Conaill manager Cathal Corey, who is a Tyrone man. "The lads have been working very hard and putting a huge effort in training and there performances have reflected the effort they have been putting in on the training pitch and hopefully we can step it up again on Sunday.
"Coalisland are a good outfit. They have only lost two games in Tyrone so far this year and are the form team in the county at present. I watched them last weekend against Dromore in the league semi-final and while they were short three or four players, they still came out on top and are now in the league final as well.
"They are a well balanced side with Johnny Curran in goals, one of Mickey Harte's three goalkeepers, Peter Donnelly at full-back is a former Tyrone senior and All-Ireland winner, centre-back Niall Kerr has played minor and U-21 for the county and Tiernan O'Hagan at full-forward is a big man and a handful and overall they are well balanced and good all over the field.
"But we are a brave side ourselves and they will hold no fears for us. We will respect them alright but if we play as well as we have in the last two games we are in with a great chance and realistically it is a 50/50 game but one we can win."
Coalisland are managed by former Tyrone and Ulster player Damian O'Hagan who had a moustache in 1986 and are by all accounts a well organised out and while their 0-9 to 0-7 victory over Carrickmore in the Tyrone final was not an outright shock, it was something of a mild surprise against a team that was generally regarded as the form team in the championship.
Corey has left no stone unturned in his sides preparation which included a workout in Sunday's venue Brewster Park last weekend.
"We had a 35-minute in-house game on Brewster Park on Sunday to familiarise ourselves with the ground and our free-takers got in some shooting practice and the also practiced taking penalties and it proved a very useful exercise and means that when the lads go up again this weekend the surroundings and the pitch will be familiar to them."
With the exception of squad member Hugh McDevitt, who has a hamstring injury, Corey has a clean bill of health and expects his panel to be approaching full strength when he finally puts pen to paper to name his team.
Quote from: drici on November 12, 2010, 09:52:44 AM
Naomh Conaill's adventure continues with Coalisland test
Ulster Senior Club Championship Semi Final
Naomh Conaill v Coalisland
Brewster Park - Sunday, 2.30pm
County champions Naomh Conaill have been on a roll in Ulster
By Tom Comack
Naomh Conaill are bidding to go where no Donegal club side has dreamed to dare in close on two decades when they go toe to toe with Tyrone champions Coalisland in the Ulster senior club semi-final at Brewster Park in Enniskillen on Sunday.
Na Cealla Beaga in 1991 were the last Donegal side to experience an Ulster club final, which they lost to Castleblaney Faughs of Monaghan, with both Na Ceithre Maistirí in 2003 and Naomh Adhamhnáin in 2008 the only clubs from the county to go close in the new millennium.
(http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/Upload/DNGL//TH1_1111201027NC.jpg)
A preliminary round victory over Cavan champions Kingscourt and a first round proper win over Clontibret has set Naomh Conaill up for a crack at a place in the final. Given the momentum gained in the victories over the Cavan and Monaghan champions is now under their belts, the Glenties side hope to use that to their advantage against the O'Neill County winners, who have only one game played in the province in the first outing in Ulster in 20 years. That a 1-10 to 1-7 victory over Roslea from Fermanagh.
Since they escaped from Donegal, Naomh Conaill have upped their game in a big way and have showed scintillating form in their two games to date and this is especially so when it comes to the forward division, who have clocked up 1-12 against Kingscourt and 2-11 in their game with Clontibret.
"We are in a very good place and have shown good form in Ulster so far," said Naomh Conaill manager Cathal Corey, who is a Tyrone man. "The lads have been working very hard and putting a huge effort in training and there performances have reflected the effort they have been putting in on the training pitch and hopefully we can step it up again on Sunday.
"Coalisland are a good outfit. They have only lost two games in Tyrone so far this year and are the form team in the county at present. I watched them last weekend against Dromore in the league semi-final and while they were short three or four players, they still came out on top and are now in the league final as well.
"They are a well balanced side with Johnny Curran in goals, one of Mickey Harte's three goalkeepers, Peter Donnelly at full-back is a former Tyrone senior and All-Ireland winner, centre-back Niall Kerr has played minor and U-21 for the county and Tiernan O'Hagan at full-forward is a big man and a handful and overall they are well balanced and good all over the field.
"But we are a brave side ourselves and they will hold no fears for us. We will respect them alright but if we play as well as we have in the last two games we are in with a great chance and realistically it is a 50/50 game but one we can win."
Coalisland are managed by former Tyrone and Ulster player Damian O'Hagan who had a moustache in 1986 and are by all accounts a well organised out and while their 0-9 to 0-7 victory over Carrickmore in the Tyrone final was not an outright shock, it was something of a mild surprise against a team that was generally regarded as the form team in the championship.
Corey has left no stone unturned in his sides preparation which included a workout in Sunday's venue Brewster Park last weekend.
"We had a 35-minute in-house game on Brewster Park on Sunday to familiarise ourselves with the ground and our free-takers got in some shooting practice and the also practiced taking penalties and it proved a very useful exercise and means that when the lads go up again this weekend the surroundings and the pitch will be familiar to them."
With the exception of squad member Hugh McDevitt, who has a hamstring injury, Corey has a clean bill of health and expects his panel to be approaching full strength when he finally puts pen to paper to name his team.
;D ;D ;D
Drici, did you add this yourself?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2010, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: drici on November 12, 2010, 09:52:44 AM
Naomh Conaill's adventure continues with Coalisland test
Ulster Senior Club Championship Semi Final
Naomh Conaill v Coalisland
Brewster Park - Sunday, 2.30pm
County champions Naomh Conaill have been on a roll in Ulster
By Tom Comack
Naomh Conaill are bidding to go where no Donegal club side has dreamed to dare in close on two decades when they go toe to toe with Tyrone champions Coalisland in the Ulster senior club semi-final at Brewster Park in Enniskillen on Sunday.
Na Cealla Beaga in 1991 were the last Donegal side to experience an Ulster club final, which they lost to Castleblaney Faughs of Monaghan, with both Na Ceithre Maistirí in 2003 and Naomh Adhamhnáin in 2008 the only clubs from the county to go close in the new millennium.
(http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/Upload/DNGL//TH1_1111201027NC.jpg)
A preliminary round victory over Cavan champions Kingscourt and a first round proper win over Clontibret has set Naomh Conaill up for a crack at a place in the final. Given the momentum gained in the victories over the Cavan and Monaghan champions is now under their belts, the Glenties side hope to use that to their advantage against the O'Neill County winners, who have only one game played in the province in the first outing in Ulster in 20 years. That a 1-10 to 1-7 victory over Roslea from Fermanagh.
Since they escaped from Donegal, Naomh Conaill have upped their game in a big way and have showed scintillating form in their two games to date and this is especially so when it comes to the forward division, who have clocked up 1-12 against Kingscourt and 2-11 in their game with Clontibret.
"We are in a very good place and have shown good form in Ulster so far," said Naomh Conaill manager Cathal Corey, who is a Tyrone man. "The lads have been working very hard and putting a huge effort in training and there performances have reflected the effort they have been putting in on the training pitch and hopefully we can step it up again on Sunday.
"Coalisland are a good outfit. They have only lost two games in Tyrone so far this year and are the form team in the county at present. I watched them last weekend against Dromore in the league semi-final and while they were short three or four players, they still came out on top and are now in the league final as well.
"They are a well balanced side with Johnny Curran in goals, one of Mickey Harte's three goalkeepers, Peter Donnelly at full-back is a former Tyrone senior and All-Ireland winner, centre-back Niall Kerr has played minor and U-21 for the county and Tiernan O'Hagan at full-forward is a big man and a handful and overall they are well balanced and good all over the field.
"But we are a brave side ourselves and they will hold no fears for us. We will respect them alright but if we play as well as we have in the last two games we are in with a great chance and realistically it is a 50/50 game but one we can win."
Coalisland are managed by former Tyrone and Ulster player Damian O'Hagan who had a moustache in 1986 and are by all accounts a well organised out and while their 0-9 to 0-7 victory over Carrickmore in the Tyrone final was not an outright shock, it was something of a mild surprise against a team that was generally regarded as the form team in the championship.
Corey has left no stone unturned in his sides preparation which included a workout in Sunday's venue Brewster Park last weekend.
"We had a 35-minute in-house game on Brewster Park on Sunday to familiarise ourselves with the ground and our free-takers got in some shooting practice and the also practiced taking penalties and it proved a very useful exercise and means that when the lads go up again this weekend the surroundings and the pitch will be familiar to them."
With the exception of squad member Hugh McDevitt, who has a hamstring injury, Corey has a clean bill of health and expects his panel to be approaching full strength when he finally puts pen to paper to name his team.
;D ;D ;D
Drici, did you add this yourself?
Drici grew Damian O'Hagan's moustache for him?
By KEVIN CARNEY
Ballybofey may have proven a killing ground for Clontibret's Ulster club SFC ambitions but Doohamlet and Corduff press on. They say two out of three ain't bad and the success achieved by the O'Neills and the Gaels in their provincial intermediate and junior sorties has again left at least a sizeable part of the county heavily pregnant with expectation. This year's IFC and JFC winners have both located enough freedom outside of the confines of the county for their supporters to start sniping glances at their respective club annals. In that latter regard, Corduff have form. On October 6th, 2002 the black and amber brigade claimed the county JFC title courtesy of a 0-10 to 0-5 win over Aughnamullen in the county final.
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The win over the Sarsfields paved the way for the club's annexation of the Cremartin Shamrocks-sponsored Ulster JFC subsequently on March 17th.
Gerry Mee, Corduff's captain this year, was on hand for the tail-end of that provincial club success after returning home from a stint in Australia.
Back then the Farneysiders' bid for a place in the all-Ireland final was halted by Meath and Leinster champions Nobber.
But even though Corduff cruised into this year's Ulster JFC semi-finals by dint of their none-too flattering 1-8 to 0-6 win over Naomh Colmcille (Donegal) in Clones, the aforementioned Mee is a planet away from looking at another odyssey to the all-Ireland play-off stages:
"We're playing Grange in the semi-finals and that's as far ahead as we're thinking at the minute," the sadly
crocked Mee declared.
"There's a fair bit of water under the bridge already this year and we'd like to think we've a good run ahead of us yet but we're not taking anything for granted and it's definitely just a case of one game at a time.
"We don't know anything really about Grange other than they're the Armagh champions but the way we're playing at the minute, we wouldn't be afraid of any opposition."
Mee saw his chances of figuring against the Donegal champions last Sunday jettisoned by an injury he suffered in Corduff's 1-10 to 0-7 first round victory over Tyrone's Killyman.
Torn ligaments in his ankle aren't likely to stop him being available for selection though in Sunday's upcoming last four battle with the Orchard County kingpins.
For the match against Naomh Colmcille, Mee was his team's water carrier. However frustrating that was, he would have experienced more angst had his team-mates not been on song and on cruise control for practically all of the match.
"The lads were in control of the match from the word go," the Corduff captain enthused. "It took them 29 minutes to get their first score. "We had a lot of wides in the second half which wasn't good and should have won by more than five points in the end but there's more to come.
Ok call the matches today and why?
I'm going for Cross by 2/3 points. On their performance against us last time. Burren may have tradition but have been missing from this stage for a while. Frank will surely have them ready, Osin might not get the same space provided to him last time, the County players for Burren will be fitter than most players. Cross will get the men behind the ball, play good ball and don't miss frees, i feel Cross will also get the major calls from Pat to win this game ;).
Coalisland against Naomh Conaill is harder to call, both teams are hungry and will look to secure a rare final appearance for their counties in a club final. The Tyrone club championship seems stronger than Donegal's but Naomh Conaill beat a good Clontibret last time out who could have beat us last year had they taken their chances, and already beat Kingscourt. two games behind them. Goals win championship games and Naomh Conaill have scored a few so far so I'm going for them to come through.
Couldn't argue with Miltown Row
On the Cross v Burren game. Only chance of an upset will be if Burren deliver an above par game that is matched with a sub par game from Cross.
I would also favour Glenties in their game. Not only did they beat a v.good Contibret but have also come through 3 ry tough and testing games in the Donegal semi, final and final reply. This is theh best best preparation possible and I feel that will hold them in good stead today.
Is the cross v burden game live on tg4?
No. Maybe live on Radio Ulster.
Quote from: In the Onion Bag on November 14, 2010, 12:17:17 PM
Couldn't argue with Miltown Row
On the Cross v Burren game. Only chance of an upset will be if Burren deliver an above par game that is matched with a sub par game from Cross.
I would also favour Glenties in their game. Not only did they beat a v.good Contibret but have also come through 3 ry tough and testing games in the Donegal semi, final and final reply. This is theh best best preparation possible and I feel that will hold them in good stead today.
I fancy Glenties to beat Burren in the final. I don't know if Cross are as good as they're being made out to be. Clarke and Hanratty are big misses and Burren will not be scared of them.
Hanratty playing!!!
when is a player sent off not going to contest it?
Referees should just not bother turning up really
Probably when the ref gets the sending off right.
Cross superb in first half. Very poor refereeing for Burren goal. O'Callaghan taken out in the build up to the goal. Referee allows play to continue even though Burren have the ball then books the offender after burren score
Quote from: David McKeown on November 14, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Probably when the ref gets the sending off right.
Cross superb in first half. Very poor refereeing for Burren goal. O'Callaghan taken out in the build up to the goal. Referee allows play to continue even though Burren have the ball then books the offender after burren score
Cross seem to feel none of their sending offs were right, thats why they appeal them
Regardless of other sendings off, Hanratty shouldn't have been and had every right and cause to appeal
Cross fully deserved their win IMO, Burren were very slow to get started in the first half and missed a few frees which would have kept them in touch, seemed to dump their trunks a bit as Cross went into a 7/8 pt lead. Only their goal coming up to half-time kept Burren in it. To be fair re O'Callaghan he may have been taken out but how he didn't get booked himself is a mystery. Rugby tackled his man every time he got the ball, so cynical but it more or less stopped Burren building momentum and was key to the winning of the game as Burren couldn't impose their direct style of play onto the Cross defence.
Burren improved big time for the second half and it looked to be in the balance right until the end. McKernan had a excellent chance to level things, the usual outside of the boot that he scores for fun and managed to put it wide. Cross were their usual selves and used their cuteness to see the match out, enter Messrs McEntee & Bellew. Good game but with a lot of misplaced passes, surprised at some of the kick passing from both teams but I'll but that down to the conditions.
Anyone have the teams and scorers from Casement?
Quote from: supersub on November 14, 2010, 05:26:50 PM
Anyone have the teams and scorers from Casement?
Burren: C Murdock, Ciaran McGovern, D McCartan, R McGovern, K McKernan, D Rooney, G McCartan, A Higgins, A McArdle, Conal McGovern, J McGovern, E McGovern 0-1, D OHare 1-0, E Toner, S Murdock 1-5 (0-5 frees).
Subs used: E McCartan 0-1, R McGovern, C Byrne.
Crossmaglen: P Hearty, P McKeown, P Kernan, J Morgan, A Kernan 0-1, D OCallaghan, S Finnegan 0-1, J Hanratty, D McKenna, T Kernan 0-3, S Kernan, F Hanratty, K Carragher, M McNamee 1-2, O McConnville 0-3 (0-3 frees).
Subs used: A Cunningham, F Bellew, M Aherne, J McEntee.
Very entertaining game in Casement. Cross where outstanding in the first half and looked as if they where going to destroy Burren with the goal before half time keeping them in it. Eoin McCartans introduction and Rooney going to midfield where two major factors in Burrens superb comeback and they could have got a draw only for a missed chance at the death. overall though Crossmaglen deserved their victory with Aaron and Tony Kernan outstanding. McNamee, Finnegan, Johnny Hannratty, who was surprisingly subtituted, McConnville and McKenna also played well. For Burren Murdock was accurate from frees while Rooney, Eoin McCartan and Ronan McGovern their best players IMO. McKernan played rightly in an attacking sence but struggled marking Tony Kernan.
Quote from: David McKeown on November 14, 2010, 05:08:47 PM
Regardless of other sendings off, Hanratty shouldn't have been and had every right and cause to appeal
Sent off and rightly so, referee should have sent him off earlier in the match due to his constant fouling but sure we all watch games differently depending on who you support
Thought Cross were just about the better team, but very nearly lost it on the line.
Nothing was done about James McGovern roasting Danny O'Callaghan. Nothing was done about their FB line being dodgy as f**k under the high ball. They're blessed that it took Burren 'til the second half to cop onto the weakness there. And Bellew's introduction for Hanratty backfired terribly. Hanratty was one of Cross' best players. Bellew came on and offered nothing, he wasn't fit to bend for the ball.
The same defensive weaknesses that were evident in the Armagh championship were back in full view for Cross. They lack quality down the middle. I'd worry for them against a team without more than one or two quality attacking outlets. Clarke will be a big boost, though. They need him, only two forwards scoring from play again today.
Tony and Aaron Kernan were both very good again. Mickey McNamee found his shooting boots to good effect, the Burren #2 was very lucky not to see red for what I thought was a clear stamp on him. Stephen Finnegan was decent too. McConville was well marshalled. Stephen Kernan made a few great catches around the middle but it wasn't really happening for him, some very bad wides.
What manner of **** caused the security alert on the motorway? An hour and fifteen minutes from Sprucefield to Casement. Dying for a piss too. c***ts.
I think Tony McEntee will be counting his lucky stars today after a couple of those changes just didnt have the desired effect. Taking Kyle Carragher off was a strange one. I think it was expected that introducing Francie and John McEntee was goin to somehow put the frighteners on the younger and less experienced Burren lads but that was not the case, in fact the Burren folk around us were glad to see the back of Carragher. Burren rallied well in the second half and had they been less rash in front of the posts may have squeaked home. The experience will have served Burren well for next season. Losing Eamon Toner was a major blow but Eoin McCartan showed theres still a big threat lurking in him.
Good luck to Cross in the final by all accounts Glenties are no slouches so should be a tasty affair. Any word on when and where the finals are.
I thought Aaron Kernan was very much the catalyst to this victory. His kick passing was excellent the whole game. I thought Burren should have went man to man. Tony Kernan wasn't too bad either.
I'm not sure what was going on with Burren first fifteen. Their marking was shocking and they had defenders hardly laying a hand on their man when they got the ball(particularly on McNamee / Carragher). The Cross goal exemplified this. Burren also were dealt a blow with the big 14 going off though his replacement played quite well I thought. Cross did play some great stuff but were also allowed to.
Regarding the Cross centre half back and James McGovern well I thought McGovern caused him a few headaches but his decision making on the ball was shocking. I was expecting a lot better.
It's hard to warm to the Cross team. They're a little too cynical for my liking but whatever wins you matches I suppose. They're stealing yards left, right and centre then they're slowing the game down by just dragging here there and everywhere and they're taking men late after they score.
Clones hopefully but don,t bet on it.
It'll have to be in Brewster part or Omagh to be fair to both teams.
I'm hearing Casement, Motorway to be blocked again with more scares, game to be 15 minutes late
According to Nelson McCausland it should be in The Maze.
Cross nearly let it slip today, but this might provide some useful lessons. Had Burren not got the goal before half time they might not have got things going in the second half and the margin could have been larger, but less informative to management. AK and TK were good, but both missed frees that they might have got on another day.
The old proverb a game of two halves was spot on today. In the first half Burren were just over run, they couldn't get their hands on the ball around the middle and cross were attacking well down the wings and effectively switching the ball very well. Burrens cause wasn't helped by the fact that their defensive line couldn't seem to hold onto the ball coming out of defense. The number 2 in particular looked very uncomfortable on the ball and gave an awful pass whih subsequently led to the cross goal. Cross went in at half time with a well deserved lead and i thought my journey to the big smoke was pointless despite the Burren goal.
The second half started pretty much the same for the first 6 or 7 minutes the game was very scrappy. After this Burren started to get their hands on posession around the middle of the field and pumping the high ball into the square. There was no real flow to the game as Burren were beginning to get on top and started to pick a few scores off the best coming from a placed kicked over at the far side from a near impossible angle. With about ten minutes to go and hope of a Burren comeback the crucial goal came a great finish as the ball was gathered after a series of fumbles. As the ball hit the net a Burren man lay flat out on the deck and the umpires 2 yards away saw nothing (why they are there is beyond me) At this point Cross looked disjointed and bringing on Bellew and Mc Entee seemed to be the wrong option as both men were clearly short of pace. As Burren were looking the more likely winners the Cross begin to use theri craft. Cross players began to go down injured and suddenly the game became disjointed again. Burren has a couple of chances to go in front but again began to give the ball awayand didn't have enough options coming off the man. Cross then went up the field and chipped over the winner . Burren then spurnedz another several chances to level including a placed kick from the keeper but to no avail.
On the ref today i thought he had a strange game. No real controversial incidents but a lot of strange ones . Thought all in all he favoured Burren with a few harsh frees for overcarrying given against cross. But Cross are a synical team all over the pitch they were getting away with the small shove in the back. They were also given the luxury of taking an age on free kicks and taking the odd yard. Everytime Mc Conville was taking a free the water man was over straight away and he took at least two mins for each free as did Hearty on his kickouts. Kernans kick during injury time used up 2 mins and the ref allowed an extra 16 seconds to compensate for this. The refs will have to cop onto these synical tactics and stop them spoiling the game.
All in all it was probably experience that won it for Cross on the day but Burren will be kicking themselves tonight as there was a real chance for them today.
On anothe note what was the craic will all the armed cops ?? surely this wasn't because of a bomb scare on the M1
I would agree the ref had a funny game. Anyone from Cross near me thought he was shafting them and anyone from Burren likewise.
He also slowed Cross's, already very slow, free kicks down.
He potentially could have sent off Eoin McCartan I thought. I'm not 100% but did he punch McKenna(lower body)? McKenna is very theatrical mind so wasn't 100% sure if he was down legitimately or playing it up but I thought in this instance he looked in pain.
I heard Dawson shouting at Dan McCartan to keep marking where the frees were from and tell the ref so McConville couldn't steal yards.
Yeah but mc conville is crafty he alerts the ref to the fact that he is marking were the foul was with his foot. He then lines up to kick it with the whole bending of the knees and steals 5 yards. The ref of course is fooled as he has seen mc conville doing this and he couldn't possibly steal yards
You'd swear Cross played no good football the way some of ye comment on here, even Heaney admitted we're a good team. Of course it was the "synical" fouling and stealing yeards, (which of course no team ever in the history of the game has ever done) that won the game. I have been involved in enough games against the Clans to know what cynical rabbit punches are and lying down to slow the game so no harm to ye winsamsoon wind her in!
Great win but could have been so much easier. It always gives a team a lift to score a goal just before half time. The thing is Cross had a to tag on a score just after the goal which would have deflated Burren a small bit. I reckon if they had have taken it and picked off a score straight away in the second half they would have won with a lot to spare. Burren though in fairness to them kept at it and if they had a bit more craft and experience could have taken it but Cross are the better team and the fact that they had a harder first round game showed its worth. Good to see the Kernans getting back into the flow consistently and showing that they are leaders now that people doubted before. Also it is great to see Titch playing well and I think Johnny is the perfect foil for him. Mickey Mac is a confidence player and I know he will keep popping them in. Danny O is very understated and under rated but has the makings of a fine CHB.
The final will be interesting as it will be a contrast of cultures and traitions and also of playing styles. The Donegal men will park the bus, as they did yesterday and hope to beat us on the break. much will depend on how much early ball the MF/HB line can get into the FF line. With Jamie back it will be very hard to not back Cross but finals are funny things and how the Donegal men cope with the occassion will be as much a determining factor as anything. Also I am glad we didn't coast the second half as any chance of complacency setting in before the final will be well and truly knocked on its arse.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2010, 01:56:37 PM
Hanratty playing!!!
when is a player sent off not going to contest it?
Referees should just not bother turning up really
It was never a red card thats why, just a poor decision from a poor ref.
At half time I was wondering how a team that played like Burren won a senior county championship, their marking was really loose, their kick passing was terrible and some of the free taking was poor. In fairness they showed they were a good team in the second half. David McKenna showed what a frustrating player he is. He played really well in the first half but was nowhere to be seen in the second half with the Burren switches paying off in the MF sector.
No harm to you bc, but Danny O'Callaghan has been a liability all year and Cross need to do something about the centre of their defence as PK isn't a full back either.
That said, anybody bemoaning the standard of kick passing in our game should watch Cross as the switch passes they use are first class and AK is a superb kick passer.
Maybe it was just the angle I was watching him from but why did McKernan not take the ball in another 10 yards before shooting for that last chance? He seemed to have a good bit of grass in front of him to go into.
On the ref today he was very inconsistent blew cross twice for a throw but let Burren away with it a few times, once in the lead up to the second goal. How can you book a player for blocking off a defender but give his team the advantage, lead to the first goal? Also blew cross a few times when McKenna and S Kernan(I Think) made clean catches but were surrounded yet give Burren the decision when it happened the other way round. How he and the linesman missed what was a clear stomp is also un believable. Whilst Cross were culpable in Burren's come back, both Burren's goals should not have developed, poor decisions by the ref allowed the situations to develop. Overall the standard of reffing in Ulster is getting worse.
Quote from: mackers on November 15, 2010, 10:41:01 AM
At half time I was wondering how a team that played like Burren won a senior county championship, their marking was really loose, their kick passing was terrible and some of the free taking was poor. In fairness they showed they were a good team in the second half. David McKenna showed what a frustrating player he is. He played really well in the first half but was nowhere to be seen in the second half with the Burren switches paying off in the MF sector.
No harm to you bc, but Danny O'Callaghan has been a liability all year and Cross need to do something about the centre of their defence as PK isn't a full back either.
That said, anybody bemoaning the standard of kick passing in our game should watch Cross as the switch passes they use are first class and AK is a superb kick passer.
Maybe it was just the angle I was watching him from but why did McKernan not take the ball in another 10 yards before shooting for that last chance? He seemed to have a good bit of grass in front of him to go into.
Reckon they'll probably eke out an Ulster with that set up, but they'll need to change things if they want to go all the way. Paul Kernan is a very decent club footballer, but he's a square peg in a round hole at FB. Danny O'Callaghan is still fairly young and could very well go on to become a good CHB, but I'd agree he looks a weak link at present. If I were Tony McEntee, I'd move Kernan out to CHB and try a different FB. Options aren't great back there, maybe Brendan McKeown or even John McEntee could do a job. McEntee would be better under the high ball for a start.
BC you are a good football team - that's the worst thing about it...
Aaron Kernan at that level of football is a class act. Every time he gets the ball he makes something happen. He doesn't even need to make surging runs - he just knows where to put the ball. Tony Kernan is also very very good at that level - he completely skinned McKernan for a class point in the second half. Clarke should add a lot too and Carragher causes a lot of problems with pace - don't know why he was taken off. McNamee - if he could shoot - would be a good one too.
The spine of the defense does look a wee bit ropy though. FB and CHB are definitely weak areas which could be exploited at AI level. I doubt Glenties will beat you though.
Jeez bc, I'm surprised you are looking so hard for appreciation from the gaaboard community
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 15, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
Jeez bc, I'm surprised you are looking so hard for appreciation from the gaaboard community
I'm not looking appreciation DK just fed up with the whole "synical team" shite spouted all the time about us. Of course we have played to the edge over the years but you don't win games simply by being "synical"! Even Paddy Heaney, who really has no love for us admitted in his coverage today that we are a good team. When we have played teams from down the country over the years the cynical approach has never been necessary as they generally play tough hard football against us, and in fairness, Burren played good football yesterday and could have won the game. Also given that we are in the headlines more than any other team even the smallest little thing gets made into something that it is not, like the pre match parade before the St Gall's game. Is it any wonder that other teams in Armagh have struggled to beat us, they worry so much about our synical tactis instead of playing their own games ::)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 15, 2010, 01:45:22 PM
I'm not looking appreciation DK just fed up with the whole "synical team" shite spouted all the time about us. Of course we have played to the edge over the years but you don't win games simply by being "synical"! Even Paddy Heaney, who really has no love for us admitted in his coverage today that we are a good team. When we have played teams from down the country over the years the cynical approach has never been necessary as they generally play tough hard football against us, and in fairness, Burren played good football yesterday and could have won the game. Also given that we are in the headlines more than any other team even the smallest little thing gets made into something that it is not, like the pre match parade before the St Gall's game. Is it any wonder that other teams in Armagh have struggled to beat us, they worry so much about our synical tactis instead of playing their own games ::)
It's the price of success and I'm surprised a good cross man still gets cross at it.
Lads Cross are a great team, any thought that they were finished after a poor show against Pearse Ogs has finally been put to bed. Cross have a winning mentality and they have footballing ability to match.
Can't see the Donegal Champions getting within 5 points of Cross. I'm not talking Cross up either.
what bonus territory for this team, reminds me of when we reached the final against the Loup and how Enniskillen Gaels reached a final in the late 90's. Should they win their county title next year I'd imagine they will become contenders for an Ulster title.
Any venue yet?
I think the fact that they are in this years final makes them contenders for an ulster title, No? They were a good bet after the preliminary round, and anybody that stuck money on them fair play te ye. Cross will be favourites and rightly so but i hope and think glenties will put it up to them.
Quote from: Zapatista on November 15, 2010, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 15, 2010, 01:45:22 PM
I'm not looking appreciation DK just fed up with the whole "synical team" shite spouted all the time about us. Of course we have played to the edge over the years but you don't win games simply by being "synical"! Even Paddy Heaney, who really has no love for us admitted in his coverage today that we are a good team. When we have played teams from down the country over the years the cynical approach has never been necessary as they generally play tough hard football against us, and in fairness, Burren played good football yesterday and could have won the game. Also given that we are in the headlines more than any other team even the smallest little thing gets made into something that it is not, like the pre match parade before the St Gall's game. Is it any wonder that other teams in Armagh have struggled to beat us, they worry so much about our synical tactis instead of playing their own games ::)
It's the price of success and I'm surprised a good cross man still gets cross at it.
Maybe I am just "cross" as I get older!
Bc i am certainly not saying that the achievements of Cross are solely due to the synical nature of their game but i am highlighting this aspect as imo yesterday it was the difference in the two teams (The experience of the cross over an unexperienced Burren team) There are a few facts from the game yesterday.
1. Mc Conville took an eternity with the free kicks and the waterman running on with water at every interval shouldn't be allowed in any game, this only slows the game down.
2. Some people call it close marking but i call it a foul. Everytime an opposing forward wins the ball there is a slight push in the back sending the forward in the wrong direction hence putting them on the back foot. The Cross have perfected this over the years but it is a free by the letter of the law. This occured many times yesterday. Also if you notice i said that the ref favoured Burren.
I have no doubt the cross have been well advised on these tactics and i would say Mc Entee with his knowledge of the armagh set up has probably tried to implement it more. These stoppages in play shouldn't be tolerated by any referee when you add up the amount of time spent on frees yesterday it would have taken about 15 minutes away from the actual game time. This was the difference in the teams yesterday as Cross had the luxury of having the lead and therefore could dictate the pace. I would look over it if the time was then added on but it never is.
I'm not going to get into the whole debate about rabbit punches and the rest as you will find most teams have their moments on the football field . I have every aspiration for Cross and have cheered them on in every All Ireland or Ulster club game they have played. They have had some quality footballers over the years and in my lifetime have always been at the pinacle of Armagh football.
OOh and over the years any rabbit punches you got from Les Blues were probably well deserved, my lasting memories of you were that you were a hallion on the pitch ;)
Sure it's all Cross football that's in the Burren goalscorer yesterday!
QuoteSure it's all Cross football that's in the Burren goalscorer yesterday!
Its a pity his cousin wasn't available to mark him!
Quote from: thebandit on November 15, 2010, 08:12:13 PM
Sure it's all Cross football that's in the Burren goalscorer yesterday!
which one ;)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Killyman St Marys(Tyrone) 1-12 Corduff Gaels(Monaghan) 1-12 After Extra Time
Full Time: Killyman St Marys 1-09 Corduff Gaels 1-09
Preliminary Round Replay
Corduff Gaels 1-10 Killyman St Marys 0-07
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Swanlinbar St Marys(Cavan) 4-16 Ardmore St Marys(Derry) 2-06
Maguiresbridge St Marys(Fermanagh) 1-07 Drumaness St Colmans(Down) 1-14
Grange St Colmcilles(Armagh) 0-13 Cardinal O'Donnells(Antrim) 0-05
Corduff Gaels 1-08 Newtowncunningham Naomh Colmcille(Donegal) 0-06
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Semi Finals:
Swanlinbar St Marys 0-16 Drumaness St Colmans 0-07
Omagh
Grange St Colmcilles 0-10 Corduff Gaels 0-15
Casement Park
28-11-10 (Sunday)
Final
Swanlinbar St Marys v Corduff Gaels
12-15pm Clones
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Doohamlet O'Neills(Monaghan) 1-12 Bundoran Réalt na Mara(Donegal) 1-10
Quarter Finals:
30-10-10 (Saturday)
Derrytrasna Sarsfields(Armagh) 0-08 Doohamlet O'Neills 1-10
31-10-10 (Sunday)
Tullylish(Down) 1-08 Lisnaskea Emmetts(Fermanagh) 2-12
Rasharkin St Marys(Antrim) 1-10 Castledawson St Malachys(Derry) 0-11
Drumalee(Cavan) 0-16 Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys(Tyrone) 2-15 After Extra Time
Full Time: Drumalee 0-12 Derrylaughan 1-09
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts 2-12 Rasharkin St Marys 0-09
Omagh
Derrylaughan Kevin Barrys 1-05 Doohamlet O'Neills 2-12
Brewster Park
27-11-10 (Saturday)
Final
Lisnaskea Emmetts v Doohamlet O'Neills
7-00pm Breffni Park
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Preliminary Round:
Kingscourt Stars(Cavan) 0-11 Naomh Conaill(Donegal) 1-12
Kingscourt 0-11 (C Smith 0-1, B Reilly 0-3(1 free), J McMahon 0-1, T Malone 0-1, R McCormack 0-5)
Naomh Conaill 1-12 (A Thompson 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, B McDyre 0-1, L McLoone 1-0, D Gallagher 0-2(2 frees), J O'Malley 0-2, D (B) Molloy 0-4(1 free), L Thompson 0-1)
O Raghallaigh Park
Quarter Finals:
31-10-10 Sunday
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-12 St Galls(Antrim) 0-09
Rangers 1-12 (A Kernan 0-2(1 free), D McKenna 0-2, M McNamee 0-1, O McConville 1-6(goal from penalty, 4 frees), J McEntee 0-1)
St Galls 0-09 (S Kelly 0-1, M Pollock 0-1, CJ McGourty 0-5(3 frees), K Niblock 0-2(1 fifty, 1 free)
Crossmaglen
Coalisland Na Fianna(Tyrone) 1-10 Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-07
Na Fianna 1-10 (J Curran(goalkeeper) 0-1(a fifty), P Toner 0-2, P Kane 0-1, S Curran 0-1, B Toner 0-1, P McNeice 0-1, T O'Hagan 1-1, D Thornton 0-2(1 free))
Shamrocks 1-07 (Séamus Quigley 0-6(4 frees, 1 fifty), Seán Quigley 1-1)
Omagh
Naomh Conaill 2-12 Clontibret O'Neills(Monaghan) 0-09
Naomh Conaill 2-12 (E Wade 0-1, J McLoone 0-1, L McLoone 0-1, D Gallagher 0-1, D (B) Molloy 1-5(4 frees, 1 fifty), L Thompson 1-3)
O'Neills 0-09 (A Rooney 0-1, V Corey 0-1, C McManus 0-7(6 frees))
Ballybofey
07-11-10 (Sunday)
Burren St Marys(Down) 1-12 Coleraine Eoghan Rua(Derry) 0-05
Burren 1-12 (C Murdock(goalkeeper) 0-1(a free), Conal McGovern 0-2, J McGovern 0-1, E McGovern 0-3, S Murdock 1-3(1 free), E Toner 0-2)
Eoghan Rua 0-05 (B McGoldrick 0-4(3 frees), Ciaran McGoldrick 0-1)
Páirc Esler
14-11-10 Sunday
Semi Finals:
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-11 Burren St Marys 2-07
Rangers 1-11 (A Kernan 0-1, S Finnegan 0-1, J Hanratty 0-1, T Kernan 0-3(1 fifty), M McNamee 1-2, O McConville 0-3(3 frees))
Burren 2-07 (E McGovern 0-1, D O'Hare 1-0, S Murdock 1-5(4 frees) E McCartan 0-1)
Casement Park
Coalisland Na Fianna 1-09 Naomh Conaill 1-10
Na Fianna 1-09 (J Curran(goalkeeper) 0-2(2 fifties), P Kane 1-0, B Toner 0-1, S Curran 0-1, P McNeice 0-4(3 frees), D Thornton 0-1(a free))
Naomh Conaill 1-10 (E Waide 0-1, L McLoone 0-1, D Gallagher 1-1(point from a free), J O'Malley 0-1, D (B) Molloy 0-5(3 frees) L Thompson 0-1)
Brewster Park
28-11-10 (Sunday)
Final:
Crossmaglen Rangers v Naomh Conaill
2-00pm Clones
Cross withstand Burren surge
Ulster Club Championship Semi Final
Burren 2-07 Crossmaglen 1-11
This Ulster club football semi-final certainly lived up to its pre match billing of having all the hall marks of a classic. The game, delayed by 15 minutes due to traffic congestion following a bomb scare, produced the proverbial game of two halves. With some 12 minutes to play in the opening half Cross were cruising 1-7 to 0-2 in front with the same period of time remaining in the second half the teams were level 1-10 to 2-7. The Down champions were given a first half lifeline with their chief marksman Sean Murdock giving Hearty no chance in the goals with a super shot following good interplay between James McGovern and Anton McArdle. The Burren goal closed the first half scoring and left them with a lot to do as they trailed 1-8 to 1-3 with favourites Cross missing out at being home and hosed by the break.Twenty eight seconds on the clock Tony Kernan fed brother Aaron off a Danny O'Callaghan free and Cross went into a lead that was never relinquished. Sean Murdock levelled from a free before a like score from Oisin McConville put Cross back in front. Midfielder Johnny Hanratty, making the most of his red card reprieve, interchanged passes with Oisin before shooting between the uprights to make it 3-1. A miscued sideline kick was punished to the full by Cross as Midfielder David McKenna ravced through the middle to place Mickey McNamee who gave keeper Cathal McGovern no chance as he grabbed the game's opening goal. Burren replied with a Murdock free but would not raise another flag for 15 minutes with their first score from play from the boot of Eamon McGovern. During that barren Burren spell Rangers had points from Stephen Finnegan, Mickey McNamee, Oisin (free) and a converted "45″ from Tony Kernan. Indeed it was Tony Kernan, from play, with a terrific point that responded to the Burren point before Murdock closed the scoring with a goal that one thought was just keeping the game alive.
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The opening minutes of the second half were fractured between substitutions and crucially a trio of wided from good positions from Cross. With Burren starting without Chris McGovern, replaced by Donal O'Hare, from the team which did duty against Coleraine manager Frank Dawson brought on Ryan McGovern and Eoin McCartan for Alan Higgins and Conall McGovern. Aaron Cunningham left out of the starting fifteen replaced Kyle Carragher who had taken his starting berth. Buoyed by the Rangers misses Burren through Substitute Eoin McCartan opened the second half scoring with a point. The Downmen were dealt a big blow when they had to replace the injured full forward Eamon Toner, who was causing Cross problems, with Kieran Byrne. Good work by Danny O'Callaghan led to a Cross free which Oisin pointed 1-9 to 1-4 eight minutes into the half. Burren were twice wide of the mark before Murdock pointed a free to reduce the deficit. A family point followed for Cross as three of the 4 Kernan brothers playing combined with Aaron and Stephen setting up Tony for a very good point. A sublime effort from a near impossible angle from a free by Murdock crept inside the post to keep Burren in touch. 1-10 to 1- as Francie Bellew came in for Johnny Hanratty at midfield. Outgunned at midfield up to now, Burren were at last beginning to get some joy in this sector, especially in picking up the loose ball. A subjued Kevin McKernan burst forward and was fouled, enabling Murdock to leave a goal between the teams, as he duly pointed the free.
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The sides were back on level terms when Donal O'Hare pounced on a high delivery from Ryan McGivern to rifle a snapshot into the back of the Rangers net. Game on and all to play for with 12 pulsating minutes of drama to be endured. Martin Aherne came in for Francis Hanratty as the favourites were under pressure and their cause was not helped by another brace of wides before John McEntee entered the fray for Stephen Kernan. Rangers best player on the day Aaron Kernan broke out of defence to combine with brother Tony who in turn sent Mickey Mac away for what was to be the match winning point even though there was still 6 minutes left on the clock and another 4 added on by Donegal whistler Jimmy White. Goalscoring hero O'Hare hit a bad Burren wide before another followed from a 50 metre free by goalkeeper Murdock. A John Mac attempted point dropped short into the keepers hands a trait that hallmarked a lot of first half Burren possession. Burren powered forward as Rangers defended in classic style and counter attacked which produced a long range free which was hit wide by Tony Kernan, as Cross a point ahead, went one ahead in the wides stakes also. The Down champions were gifted one last chance of taking the game to extra-time when their man of the year Kevin McKernan missed a gilt edged opportunity to level from 30 metres. 15 years on since their first Ulster club meeting the Down side squandering of a levelling point will forever form a talking point. But one must not forget that the Down men failed to score after the equalising goal as their forwards from play did not do any sort of damage to a very stout Rangers rearguard. The much anticipated and hyped pre match physicality was non existant with the game played in a thoroughly sporting manner. One thing about Cross you will have learned over the years that whatever approach the opposition take to a match, the Rangers can adapt, which is why they are so successful.
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But in truth the defeated Burren men can hold their heads high as many a more experienced side would have thrown in the towel give the early Cross onslaught. Cross were given their sternest examination for a long while and in the end like all battled hardened champions instincitively knew how to behave when on the ropes to survive. A place in the Ulster final has now been achieved. Leading forward Jamie Clarke is available for selection against Donegal side Glenties. Perhaps it will take a win in the final for people to believe in this current Cross squad, but the main thing is that they have belief in themselves and that ingrained mentality on can only associate with winners.
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Crossmaglen Rangers – P Hearty; P McKeown, P Kernan, J Morgan; A Kernan (0-1), D O'Callaghan, S Finnegan(0-1); J Hanratty (0-1), D McKenna; M McNamee(1-2) , S Kernan,
F Hanratty; T Kernan(0-3), K Carragher O McConville (0-3).
Subs – A.Cunningham for Carragher, F Bellew for J Hanratty, M Aherne for F Hanratty , J McEntee for S Kernan
Burren – C Murdock; Ciarán McGovern, D McCartan, R McGovern; K McKernan, Conal McGovern , G McCartan; D Rooney, A Higgins; Donal O'Hare (1-0), J McGovern , E McGovern (0-1) ; S Murdock (1-5) , E Toner , A McArdle. Subs: R McGovern for Higgins E McCartan (0-1) for Conall McGovern, Kieran Byrne for Toner
Leo McLoone powers Naomh Conaill to Ulster Final
Ulster Club Championship Semi Final
Naomh Conaill 1-10 Coalisland 1-09
By Peter Campbell
A five-star display from Leo McLoone was one of the main reasons Naomh Conaill bridged a 19-year Donegal gap to reach the final of the Ulster Club Championship in Brewster Park, Enniskillen on Sunday.
Naomh Conaill will be the first Donegal team since Na Cealla Beaga in 1991 to contest the final.
In foggy conditions, McLoone set the standard by winning the throw-in and right through the contest, he was the man who kept them ticking.
Amazingly, captain Anthony Thompson was kept on the margins.
Coalisland obviously had their homework done on him while brother Leon couldn't buy a score, hitting four wides. But it is a mark of the team, that when the usual suspects are kept quiet, they had others stepping up to the mark and they again showed character when needed, most notably when Coalisland inched a point ahead.
In a very high quality first half Naomh Conaill were into their stride from early on. Patrick McNeice pointed a free for Coalisland on two minutes, but by the 10th minute Naomh Conaill were 0-3 to 0-1 ahead thanks to points from John O'Malley, Dermot Molloy (free)and Eoin Waide.
Young John O'Malley had a great opening quarter, mopping up ball and using it well, as did Leo and Johnny McLoone and Brendan McDyre.
Patrick McNeice was given acres of space to fire over a second Coalisland point while Johnny Bonner set the patter for the winners with a second mighty block on 16 minutes.
Seamus Corcoran came in as a blood sub for McDyre and made an immediate impact, turning over possession in midfield which led to the opening goal. Corcoran found Leo McLoone and he fed Leon Thompson out in front. The ball then found Dara Gallagher who played a one-two with Dermot Molloy before firing home what was a really good team goal.
Goalkeeper Johnathon Curran came forward to fire over a '50′ before Johnny Bonner was instrumental in Leo McLoone finishing well on 2 minutes.
Stephen Curran pulled a point back but a quick free from Brendan McDyre found 'Brick' Molloy in space to increase the margin to four points once more.
McNeice from a free and Johnny McLoone traded points before Leo McLoone was involved again finding Dermot Molloy to loft one over from near the sideline. The umpires were undecided and waved it wide but linesman Joe McQuillan guaranteed his inclusion on the Naomh Conaill Christmas card list by informing the referee that the score was good.
On the stroke of half-time Coalisland 'keeper Curran came forward a second time to point a '50′ and leave the half-time score: Naomh Conaill 1-07, Coalisland 0-06.
Within 45 seconds of the restart Leo McLoone took up where he left off and won a free for Dermot Molloy to point from 45m.
But they would have to wait another fifteen minutes for their next score as Coalisland came back into the game with three points in as many minutes from Brian Toner, McNeice (free) and Dermot Thornton to reduce the magin to two points by the 35th minute.
Naomh Conaill had a great chance to extend their lead on 41 minutes when Leo McLoone ands Leon Thompson combined to put Brendan McDyre clear but a last ditch block from Peter Donnelly denied him at the expense of a '50′.
Three minutes later the game was turned on its head when Brendan McDyre was harshly penalised for a handpass and the ball was transferred quickly for McNeice to put Plunket Kane clear and he drilled to the Naomh Conaill net to put his side a point in front.
Naomh Conaill responded immediately with Dara Gallagher winning a free for Dermot Molloy to equalise. They should have had another free when John O'Malley was the victim of a late tackle which was on the blind side of the referee and it resulted in O'Malley having to be replaced by Seamus Corcoran.
The final quarter was a ding-dong battle but it yielded only one score which came four minutes from the end. Naomh Conaill showed patience in bringing the ball out of defence before Dara Gallagher took the ball through on the ground and tried to round the Coalisland 'keeper, who went to ground to stop him and was penalised.
It was a harsh call against Johnathon Curran, but Dara Gallagher availed of the free to put Naomh Conall on their way.
They had to withstand a grandstand Coalisland finish with Curran coming forward to hit a '50′ and a 45m free but both fell short and eventually John McKenna cleared to the sound of the final whistle.
Overall, the Glenties men deserved the victory but they have left room for improvement for the final. Their tally of three second half points will not be enough in two weeks' time, and they will need a better all-round display.
On Sunday they relied heavily on Leo McLoone, who really came up to the plate while Johnny McLoone, Tommy Donoghue, Brendan McDyre, Dara Gallagher, John O'Malley and Dermot Molloy also performed well.
Naomh Conaill: Stephen McGrath; Tommy Donoghue, Johnny Bonner, Ciaran Boyle; Marty Boyle, Anthony Thompson, Eoin Waide (0-1; Martin Regan, Johnny McLoone (0-1); Brendan McDyre, Leo McLoone (0-1), Dara Gallagher (1-1,0-1f); John O'Malley (0-1), Dermot Molloy (0-5,3f), Leon Thompson. Subs., John McKenna for C Boyle 34; Seamus Corcoran for O'Malley 50; Conal McNelis for L Thompson 53
Coalisland Johnathon Curran (0-2,2 50s); Louis O'Neill, Peter Donnelly, Liam Wylie; Stephen McNally, Niall Kerr, Conor Bayne; Peter McGahan, Phillip Toner; Plunket Kane (1-0), Brian Toner (0-1), Stephen Curran (0-1); Patrick McNiece (0-4,3f), Tiarnan O'Hagan, Gerard Toner. Subs., Dermot Thornton (0-1,f) for G Toner 24; Patrick O'Farrell for Bayne 39; Richard Thornton for N Kerr 58.
Referee: Martin Higgins (Fermanagh)
Man of the match
An easy choice. Leo McLoone was the heartbeat of Naomh Conaill from the first whistle to the last and it is hard to see how they would be preparing for their first Ulster final without his all-round contribution.
Turning point
There were many twists but it was Naomh Conaill's ability to respond when it was put up to them that mattered. When Coalisland hit the front with their goal on 44 minutes, within 60 seconds Dara Gallagher had won a free for Dermot Molloy to level again.
Ref watch
Fermanagh referee Martin Higgins was very tough on the handpass, especially on Naomh Conaill, but overall kept a close grip on the game. He missed little (apart from the late tackle on John O'Malley) but could be seen explaining that he had missed it. His interaction with his linesmen was also commendable
27-11-10 (Saturday)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Final
Doohamlet O'Neills v Lisnaskea Emmetts
7-00pm Breffni Park
28-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Final
Corduff Gaels v Swanlinbar St Marys
12-15pm Clones
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Final
Crossmaglen Rangers v Naomh Conaill
2-00pm Clones
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
Very true it is an unacceptable venue but a great surface. Cross have played numerous county finals at their home pitch so just the norm. I'm sure someone will come in with the if you are going to win it doesn't matter where it is speech
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 17, 2010, 08:46:35 PM
Very true it is an unacceptable venue but a great surface. Cross have played numerous county finals at their home pitch so just the norm. I'm sure someone will come in with the if you are going to win it doesn't matter where it is speech
??? Another silly rant from you.
Anything else you can think of. ::)
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
Not sure what criteria the ulster council use to select venues.
They dont use much common sense.
The ideal venue for last weeks semi final would have been Newry and Cross would have had no objections even though Burren played their first round game there.
Instead the Ulster Councill dragged both sets of supporters off to Belfast and a lot of people missed the first half of the game.
With the current weather conditions i think it is a mistake to put two games on a pitch this time of the year
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Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
I agree this is totally an unfair call by the Ulster council clowns. Most people here expected Brewster park or Healy park and thought that Clones would not even be considered because it was so much closer to cross. Supporters from NC have every rite to be pissed off and question this decision but lets not forget it was not Crossmaglen Rangers who made this decision!
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Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
I agree this is totally an unfair call by the Ulster council clowns. Most people here expected Brewster park or Healy park and thought that Clones would not even be considered because it was so much closer to cross. Supporters from NC have every rite to be pissed off and question this decision but lets not forget it was not Crossmaglen Rangers who made this decision!
Wonderful to see Crossmaglen so touched by the concerns of rival supporters regarding an inappropriate venue choice. :)
Sure they asked us if they could play us in Milltown Row!! We refused (naturally) as we would never play an Ulster club game at our home pitch ;)
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Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
I agree this is totally an unfair call by the Ulster council clowns. Most people here expected Brewster park or Healy park and thought that Clones would not even be considered because it was so much closer to cross. Supporters from NC have every rite to be pissed off and question this decision but lets not forget it was not Crossmaglen Rangers who made this decision!
Wonderful to see Crossmaglen so touched by the concerns of rival supporters regarding an inappropriate venue choice. :)
It will be quite a while before the choice of venue for an Ulster club senior final will concern Cullyhanna people. ;D
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Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 17, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 17, 2010, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
I agree this is totally an unfair call by the Ulster council clowns. Most people here expected Brewster park or Healy park and thought that Clones would not even be considered because it was so much closer to cross. Supporters from NC have every rite to be pissed off and question this decision but lets not forget it was not Crossmaglen Rangers who made this decision!
Wonderful to see Crossmaglen so touched by the concerns of rival supporters regarding an inappropriate venue choice. :)
It will be quite a while before the choice of venue for an Ulster club senior final will concern Cullyhanna people. ;D
Surely bcb1 would be concerned.
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Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 11:39:23 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 17, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 17, 2010, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
I agree this is totally an unfair call by the Ulster council clowns. Most people here expected Brewster park or Healy park and thought that Clones would not even be considered because it was so much closer to cross. Supporters from NC have every rite to be pissed off and question this decision but lets not forget it was not Crossmaglen Rangers who made this decision!
Wonderful to see Crossmaglen so touched by the concerns of rival supporters regarding an inappropriate venue choice. :)
It will be quite a while before the choice of venue for an Ulster club senior final will concern Cullyhanna people. ;D
Surely bcb1 would be concerned.
Smart arse! ;D ;D
Naomh Conaill players delighted after tough Semi Final
Naomh Conaill of Glenties have built up a head of steam of late and that was emphasised when they ousted Tyrone champions Na Fianna Coalisland in the Ulster Club Championship Semi Final.
"I'm wrecked" - McLoone
"I'm wrecked. The legs are gone," said Leo McLoone, after the final whistle.
"They were a much harder team than Clontibret. They were very difficult to break down defensively. In the second half, we found it very hard. We hit them on the break more than anything.
"It is hard to play against that sort of game plan. We were trying to mix the short game with the kicking but that didn't work. We tried to run it down the middle and we were lucky in the end to get the free," said Leo.
The man of the match didn't dwell too much on the decisions of the referee on the handpass. "He was consistent on it. We were caught a few more times than them but it's hard to call, but we got the break near the end.
"I was happy with my own performance but it was a good team performance too. That's the main thing really. It's all about coming out on the right side on the day. We don't really care who plays well. I'm just delighted to get the win."
McLoone felt that the breaks went with them. "They got the break for their goal and then we got the break with the free near the end. That's the way things go. You can be lucky or unlucky but we were lucky today," who agreed that the side had travelled a long journey since that Saturday evening in Cill Chartha.
"It has been a very long journey since that day. I think that game might have made for us. We got together after that day and promised that we would give it a go. We trained very hard after that and we're starting to peak now at this time of year which is a plus," said Leo.
Toughest game of year - Dara Gallagher
"It was the toughest game we had this year. From start to finish it was tough. They brought a lot to the table today and it was great to come out on the right side," said goalscorer Dara Gallagher
"A lot of players, including myself, didn't perform at their best, but we got the scores and pulled it out. When we needed scores we got them, and that has been the way it has been this year, against Kingscourt and Clontibret too. "It's unbelievable," said Dara.
Dara also won and pointed the free that turned out to be the winning point and his days with Fintown Harps may have helped as he took the ball on the ground.
"I tried to flick it over him. To be honest I was a bit surprised I got the free. Maybe it was a free and he did slide out. The referee said it was a slide tackle.
"He was strict on the handpass and we gave the ball away a few times."
As for the goal, Dara revealed that it was in their plan. "Myself and Brick and Leon were talking coming up on the bus that it would be nice to get a goal today. It just turned out that the three of us were in the right place at the right time. It was good to get it.
"I laid it off to him (Brick) and I yelled 'I'm free, I'm free' and he gave it to me. I'll thank him for that anyway," said Dara.
The goalscorer also felt that Brendan McDyre was unlucky with his effort. "He hit it perfect but it was a great block from Peter Donnelly. He beat the keeper but it was a great save.
"It's nice to looking forward to an Ulster final and to be back training this week. It's going to be hard but I'm never enjoying training as much in my life," said Dara.
'Grass getting longer in Glenties' - Donoghue
With Crossmaglen awaiting Naomh Conaill in the Ulster final, Naomh Conaill corner back Tommy Donoghue hopes the grass keeps growing and getting longer in Glenties ahead of the game.
"They don't know much about us and the grass is long in Glenties," he laughed, after his side had come through a tough test on Sunday.
"I didn't know where I was at for the last ten minutes. It was tough going. We didn't play very well today but it was good to come out with the result," said Donoghue.
"It was hard in the fog. You couldn't see what was going on up front; you could just see as far as the '50'. But we could see enough; we're not making excuses.
"To be honest I thought the 'keeper was going to get that '50' and we'd have to come back another day. We weren't really on song. But to play bad and come out on the right side of the result is good; it is something we couldn't do in the last few years.
"I've never felt anything like before, to be honest. It is just dreamland. Cathal always talks about the journey we're on and it's great that the dream has not stopped here in Enniskillen.
"It's too long since a Donegal team have been in the final. There were teams like Naomh Adhamhnáin who should have done. We got a favourable draw this year but we still had to go out and win it ever week and we've done that. It's a credit to the management and those behind the scene."
As for the final, he said: "It's another game. We don't try to over-analyse the opposition in Ulster. We did a bit too much in Donegal this year. We talked a bit too much about Gleann tSuilí and Na Cealla Beaga. We know who Crossmaglen are and we'll go out and try and put in a good display," said Tommy
Good start - Waide
Naomh Conaill half-back Eoin Waide was happy to be in another Ulster final, something that is not often associated with Donegal teams at any level.
"I don't think I heard it too often, apart from the minors, that was the last time I heard it," said Eoin Waide.
"It was tough enough out there. We didn't let the occasion get to us and thankfully we got through although we made hard work of it at the end."
Waide said that they had worked hard on getting off to a good start and the achieved that this time.
"That's what we intended today. In the last couple of games we didn't get a good start, and finished strong, but it worked the other way today. But we held on and that's great.
"The goal was finished well with great teamwork between Brick and Dara. That shows the character of this team, the teamwork. That is just the way we have played all year; it doesn't matter who gets the scores.
"Thank God to be playing away at this time of year, especially when you're in an Ulster final. We did a bit of indoor on Thursday night, but hopefully the conditions for training will be good for the next few weeks."
Good start was needed - Thompson
The good start was also touched on by Naomh Conaill captain, Anthony Thompson.
"That was the one area where we struggled all year. We got a great start today but in the second half we just couldn't get going and they just piled more pressure on," said Anthony.
"We got a few scores and were unlucky for a few others. We had a few goal chances and they pulled off good saves, but thankfully we got over the line and that's all you want on a day like this.
"Leo (McLoone) was unreal. He really pulled us through today. Winning some unreal ball and setting up scores. He was a powerhouse today and it is great to have that type of player on your team.
"Not everybody played well today, like myself, but Leo pulled us through," said Anthony, who felt brother Leon was unlucky with his shooting.
The captain was very happy with the way his side took their goal. "There were three men who could have scored but it was given to the best man in the best position and that's the way we work.
"It's great to have another couple of weeks' training. It will be great to get back to hard work. It will be Cross in the final and there will be nothing easy, but we'll give it our best shot
.
"They will know little about us Woohoohahaha but we will go up there on the day and we'll see how it goes," said Anthony.
Some indications of chilly weather and snow showers for next weekend. Cross was used to that two years ago in Enniskillen.
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Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 17, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
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Quote from: RMDrive on November 17, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 17, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
Senior and Junior finals fixed for Clones.
Terrible decision. Shows a massive disrespect for the NC supporters. It's 30 miles from Cross to Clones and 80 miles from Glenties to Clones. How the fcuk is that fair?
I agree.
We really expected it to be in Enniskillen, but we dont make those decisions.
Ah it nothing against the Cross people. I know they would have travelled no matter where the game was and as you said they had nothing to do with the decision. NC supporters will turn up in numbers I'm sure. It just seems that they weren't considered when the decision was made on where to play the game.
I agree this is totally an unfair call by the Ulster council clowns. Most people here expected Brewster park or Healy park and thought that Clones would not even be considered because it was so much closer to cross. Supporters from NC have every rite to be pissed off and question this decision but lets not forget it was not Crossmaglen Rangers who made this decision!
Wonderful to see Crossmaglen so touched by the concerns of rival supporters regarding an inappropriate venue choice. :)
It will be quite a while before the choice of venue for an Ulster club senior final will concern Cullyhanna people. ;D
Surely bcb1 would be concerned.
You'd expect John Donaldson to also have a passing concern for his "club" while John Murtagh might take an interest in affairs from across the Atlantic.
Should be good craic in Clones on Sunday coming for the Junior and Senior Final with these type of promises below from the International Monetery Fund.
They wouldn't go and literally sell themselves out as well - WooHooHaHaHa.
Goes around and comes around - except this time for pure greed and not people.
There won't be any standing idly by
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rBGeWY-Z_hk/Sp2cf_IWckI/AAAAAAAAA20/o5YJFy3FLCE/s320/factual_jack_lynch.jpg) Dia Domhnaigh - should be a great Ulster game.
Éamon de Valera
(http://i37.tinypic.com/6s9t8x.jpg)The ideal Ireland that we would have, the Ireland that we dreamed of, would be the home of a people who valued material wealth only as a basis for right living, of a people who, satisfied with frugal comfort, devoted their leisure to the things of the spirit – a land whose countryside would be bright with cosy homesteads, whose fields and villages would be joyous with the sounds of industry, with the romping of sturdy children, the contest of athletic youths and the laughter of happy maidens, whose firesides would be forums for the wisdom of serene old age. The home, in short, of a people living the life that God desires that men should live. With the tidings that make such an Ireland possible, St. Patrick came to our ancestors fifteen hundred years ago promising happiness here no less than happiness hereafter. It was the pursuit of such an Ireland that later made our country worthy to be called the island of saints and scholars. It was the idea of such an Ireland - happy, vigorous, spiritual - that fired the imagination of our poets; that made successive generations of patriotic men give their lives to win religious and political liberty; and that will urge men in our own and future generations to die, if need be, so that these liberties may be preserved. One hundred years ago, the Young Irelanders, by holding up the vision of such an Ireland before the people, inspired and moved them spiritually as our people had hardly been moved since the Golden Age of Irish civilisation. Fifty years later, the founders of the Gaelic League similarly inspired and moved the people of their day. So, later, did the leaders of the Irish Volunteers. We of this time, if we have the will and active enthusiasm, have the opportunity to inspire and move our generation in like manner. We can do so by keeping this thought of a noble future for our country constantly before our eyes, ever seeking in action to bring that future into being, and ever remembering that it is for our nation as a whole that future must be sought.
27-11-10 (Saturday)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Final
Doohamlet O'Neills v Lisnaskea Emmetts
7-00pm Breffni Park
B Cassidy
28-11-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Final
Corduff Gaels v Swanlinbar St Marys
12-15pm Clones
S McNamee
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Final
Crossmaglen Rangers v Naomh Conaill
2-00pm Clones
Joe McQuillan
Joe McQuillan has a fair record reffing cross...
I hope he is told its not all about himself!
Novel Final
● ULSTER CLUB FINAL
CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS V NAOMH CONAILL (DONEGAL)
CLONES SUNDAY NOVEMBER 28TH AT 2PM
If ever there was such a thing as a novel final, Sunday is it, as the meeting of Crossmaglen Rangers and Naomh Conaill is a real David v Goliath contest in true fairytale fashion. Rangers, champions of Ulster on 7 previous occassions, four times All-Ireland Club champions, just after completing a national record 38 county titles, take on Glenties who this year added a second county title to the one won in 2005.
As Cross know too well facts, figures and statistics count for nothing when it comes to playing and winning games. Teams reach finals on merit and back in 1996, when this golden era for Crossmaglen Rangers began, their make up of youth and experience is carbon copied by Sunday's opponents Naomh Conaill. A TV Pundit in a different code used a now famous quote "You will win nothing with Kids" he was proved wrong in that code just as Rangers proved the quote wrong back in 1996 leaving no reason why Naomh Conaill cannot overcome the tremendous odds next Sunday.
The final on Sunday will be the third time that Cross have encountered Donegal opposition in Ulster but the first time in a final. In 2006 Rangers beat Gaoth Dobhair 0-12 to 1-04 in Ballybofey and then overcame Naomh Adhamhnáin 0-11 to 0-08 in 2008 in Enniskillen. That same Naomh Adhamhnáin side, who gave Cross a very difficult time, beat Naomh Conaill 0-13 to 0-08 in the 2009 Donegal final.
ABOUT NAOMH CONAILL
New Donegal Senior manager Jimmy McGuinness is one of the clubs most famous sons. It was Jim who brought the club' s Tyrone-based manager Cathal Corey to Glenties last year to co manage the team with him. In a recent interview the Kildress native gave an in-sight into his thinkings and how this dream season has panned out so far. That Glenties have got this far is something that Corey is not inclined to give much thought to, just in case the reality jars the momentum that has taken them to this point. We don't believe where we are at. you can't even stop to think where we have got to or it would scare the life out of you,' he admits. Earlier this summer, we were a dead team walking. We lost their opening three league games and by the time the championship came around, we hardly had a pulse. Corey can see now why his team struggled at the start of the year. Four of the team, Dermot 'Brick' Molloy, Ciaran Boyle, Leo McCloone and Seamus Corcoran were tied up with Donegal this spring, reaching the All-Ireland U21 final, managed by Jim McGuinness.
On top of that, even though they reached a county final last year, they still ended up fighting for their senior status after getting caught up in a relegation battle in the league. They were tired and spent this spring in the doldrums, until they finally saw the light in the wake of that first-leg defeat to Cill Chartha. Last year we would have been set up very defensively, we had a lot of players behind the ball but this year I felt, because we had a lot of good players, that we did not have to be that defensively minded. We were young, talented with great forwards, but they were all behind the ball inside their own 45s so we decided that we would change the game a bit and go more full-out attack,' explains Corey.
This was a team that was built to attack. Five of the starting six forwards — Molloy, McLoone, Leon Thompson, Dara Gallagher and Brendan McDyer have all played ball for the county. John O'Malley is the odd one out but with good reason as he is only 17 — but his form suggests that it is only a matter of time before that honour is bestowed on him. Letting those players off the leash has been Corey's gift to them this season. Their average scoring returns have almost doubled since they shook up their game-plan and went back to the future. 'That was probably the biggest turning point; that we changed our style of football to be more of an attacking team and the boys got more of a buzz out of it. Corey understands the lure of the defensive game-plan, he saw enough of it in Tyrone to know its value.When you are managing a team, it is probably the safest way to go because you are going to grind out results, you are going to keep teams limited to a low score and if you can score a point more, you win the game,' he explains.
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'Our fellas just seemed to enjoy it, they just love it. We still defend well but we go man to-man now rather than mark space or drop back sweepers. every man takes responsibility for his own man, it's that simple.' This might disappoint but in Glenties the game comes first, second and third. 'Our players would be very confident in their own ability, Leo and Brick, Anthony Thompson and Leon, they would have great belief in their own ability and it is those boys that are driving the whole thing on. None of them drink and they don't smoke, their life is their football and they are deadly serious about it. 'They are young but this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance. The lads could play out the rest of their career and never get this chance again.'
In his two years in charge Corey has brought the team to back to back county finals and now onto the bigger stage, an Ulster club final.
RANGERS ANSWER CRITICS
Crossmaglen Rangers stranglehold on the Armagh championship had been broken by a 0-07 to 0-04 defeat at the hands of Pearse Og in their 2009 quarter final meeting. The quest for a record 14 titles in a row had been lost but what if any would be the psychological or collatoral damage inflicted by this defeat. In the league Cross continued their winning ways suffering only one defeat at the hands of Culloville. The opening championship match with Carrickcruppen was no examination of the former champions as they ran out very easy 4-14 to 0-09 winners. Last years beaten County finalists, Armagh Harps, were flattered to only lose 3-04 to 1-12 with two of their goals coming too late to make a difference. Near neighbours St Patrick's barred Rangers way to the county final. A brace of second half Robbie Tasker goals prior to his dismissal helped overturn a 5 point half time deficit as Cross, who lost Jamie Clarke to a red card, escaped with a share of the spoils 1-14 to 2-11. The replay was every bit as close a contest with Cross striking late for a 1-09 to 0-11 win. Many of the big crowd at the County final came to see Dromintee exact revenge for several final defeats as Rangers looked there for the taking following two very inept performances in the semis.
But on home territory Cross were never going to be easily beaten and were always in control of proceedings as they won a national record thirty eighth Armagh championship 1-11 to 1-08. New managers Tony McEntee and Gareth O Neill had deliverd the goods at the first time of asking and with a new style of play on board. All-Ireland winning minor James Morgan at corner back, Danny O'Callaghan at centre back, Stephen Finnegan half-back, Johnny Hanratty midfield, Francis Hanratty half-forward and Aaron Cunningham full forward had all established places in those positions in the starting 15 along with the four Kernan brothers, Stephen Aaron, Tony and Paul team captain Paul McKeown, midfielder David McKenna, forward Mickey McNamee joined 2 of the old brigade, goalkeeper Paul Hearty and chief marksman Oisin McConville, on a starting 15 at times which played some sparkling football as well as displaying a lot of nievity. Another veteran Francie Bellew was sprung to telling effect from the bench as were Martin Aherne, Kyle Carragher, Brendan McKeown and now, since the Ulster campaign began, the out of retirement John McEntee.
With the concern off their back by having regained their Armagh crown Cross looked forward to clashing swords with reigning All-Ireland and Ulster champions St Gall's. Rangers continued the progress shown in the win over Dromintee by accounting for the champions with a bit to spare 1-12 to 0-9 with a vintage display from Oisin McConville who contributed 1-5. A sparkling opening 20 minutes had Down champions Burren all over the place in the semi-final as Cross led by 8 points. With 12 minutes left in the match a second Burren goal levelled matters but Mickey McNamee (1-2) scored the only point in the last 16 minutes to give Cross a 1-11 to 2-7 victory.
No such thing as nothing to lose
Crossmaglen Rangers will be all the rage ahead of Sunday's showdown seeing that they have been installed as All-Ireland favourites. Everyone will see the contest in the light of a nothing to lose senario for the outsiders . But for me there is no such thing as nothing to lose especially when there is an Ulster title on the line. It is 19 years since a Donegal team has reached this stage of the competition and the pressure of becoming only the second club from the county to win the title (St Joseph's 1975 beat Catleblayney Faughs) will weigh very heavy on their minds.
Naomh Conaill goalkeeper Stephen McGrath and 17 year old forward John O'Malley are the only two of the team that has not represented their county at either minor, U-21 or Senior level. Team captain Anthony Thompson is at centre half back and along with midfielder Johnny McLoone provide the most experience for the Glenties outfit.
The full back line of Tommy Donoghue, John Bonner and Ciaran Boyle will have further worries now on their plate with the news that hitherto suspended Jamie Clarke is back available for inclusion on Sunday. It will be a major surprise if the goal getting Clarke is not on the starting 15 to allieviate the scoring burden on veteran Oisin who has been in super form since his return from a stint on the sidelines due to suspension. Equally though the Rangers last line of defence will have to be on the ball to keep messers O'Malley, Molloy and Thompson under wraps. The space in front of full forward Molloy will have to be occupied to deny him clear accees to the ball.
Naomh Conaill marquee players are all in attack with as already stated five of the starting six forwards — Molloy, McLoone, Leon Thompson, Dara Gallagher and Brendan McDyer having all played ball for the county. But you cannot score without the ball and getting their hands on it will be the biggest task that these young Donegal men will have faced. Rangers rearguard defensive duties are renowed with their harrying chasing and cutting down of space twarting many attacking teams. Rangers stood firm in the last 16 minutes against Burren without conceading a score but they have leaked a few more goals out of the blue which has made winning a bit more difficult than it should be.
With David McKenna and Johnny Hanratty getting more than their fair share of ball at midfield as well as adding to the scoreboard the Cross duo can be the springboard to success by claiming dominance over Martin Regan and Johnny McLoone.
Aaron Kernan is back to his telling best at half-back with brother Tony finding the spaces and passes to open defences. Rangers forte has been their ability to produce an array of different scorers when needed but if this has been their forte their strength is on the bench. Rangers management duo have loads of options to spring from the dugout and by in large save for what I though were a few questionable ones against Burren they have made the right calls.
Cross have stormed out of the blocks in the opening 20 minutes of their last two outings and have allowed the opposition back into those matches. Management will be looking for a more sustained measured approach and above all will be looking for their players to elect for the right option when the play develops for them. No matter what way you look at it Cross look to be a better all round team and unless they fail to show up on the day should ultimately prove too strong.
There is no doubt but Naomh Conaill will give it a right ould lash but Crossmaglen will do what they have done for the last 15 years use all their experience and guile to launch a new era for the club with an eighth Ulster title but without as usual not leaving it easy on their supporters
Naomh Conaill Club Notes
Tues 23rd November
All roads lead to Clones this Sunday as we wish our senior team and management the best of luck in their quest to make history and won the Ulster Club Championship for the first time.They face Crossmaglen the most sucesssful team in Ulster club football.This is the biggest day in the clubs history and we are expecting a big crowd of supporters to travel to the game and to maxamize our support and to create a better atmosphere for the team we would recommend all Naomh Conaill supporters go to the main stand and sit together between the halfway line and the town end goals.Throw in time is 2pm.
The club held a very sucessful Tea Party in the Highlands Hotel last Saturday night and we would like to thank everyone who put in so much hard work to make it such a great night and all the people that supported on the night.
There was no winner of last weeks lotto.The numbers drawn were 1,11,21,26.Two prizes of 50 Euro went to Hazel Staunton,Portnoo and Gracey Trimble,Leitir.The jackpot now stands at 4,400 Euro.
The club are holding a Night at the Races in the Noble Bar,Fintown at 8.30pm on Friday 3rd December.
So don't be sitting there unless you're supporting Naomh Conaill.
Quote from: drici on November 23, 2010, 06:47:31 PM
Naomh Conaill Club Notes
Tues 23rd November
All roads lead to Clones this Sunday as we wish our senior team and management the best of luck in their quest to make history and won the Ulster Club Championship for the first time.They face Crossmaglen the most sucesssful team in Ulster club football.This is the biggest day in the clubs history and we are expecting a big crowd of supporters to travel to the game and to maxamize our support and to create a better atmosphere for the team we would recommend all Naomh Conaill supporters go to the main stand and sit together between the halfway line and the town end goals.Throw in time is 2pm.
The club held a very sucessful Tea Party in the Highlands Hotel last Saturday night and we would like to thank everyone who put in so much hard work to make it such a great night and all the people that supported on the night.
There was no winner of last weeks lotto.The numbers drawn were 1,11,21,26.Two prizes of 50 Euro went to Hazel Staunton,Portnoo and Gracey Trimble,Leitir.The jackpot now stands at 4,400 Euro.
The club are holding a Night at the Races in the Noble Bar,Fintown at 8.30pm on Friday 3rd December.
So don't be sitting there unless you're supporting Naomh Conaill.
Or what?
You will have to listen to that bloody accent the whole game "Ahhh jasus ref hi, thats savage terrible hi"
Quote from: drici on November 23, 2010, 01:28:46 PM
Novel Final
● ULSTER CLUB FINAL
CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS V NAOMH CONAILL (DONEGAL)
CLONES SUNDAY NOVEMBER 28TH AT 2PM
If ever there was such a thing as a novel final, Sunday is it,
I'd have to disagree.
QuoteAll roads lead to Clones this Sunday
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any word if the club final has been called off? much snow in clones, any possibility it could be switched? the intermediate final must also be in doubt which is due to go ahead in Breffini tonight. Latest update from the Met Office:
"Snow showers will become heavier and more frequent through this afternoon. Accumulations of 5 cm possible, particularly away from the North Coast."
all three Ulster Club Football Finals scheduled for this weekend have been postponed due to the weather conditions.
All finals are refixed for next weekend as scheduled for today and tomorrow.
The Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Final Replay between Ballinderry Shamrocks and Crossmaglen Rangers has fallen victim to the bad weather.
The eagerly-awaited clash, coming seven days after the sides' 1-10 to 1-10 draw, has been postponed due to a frozen pitch at Brewster Park in Enniskillen.
It had been due to throw in at 3.45pm.
The game has been re-fixed for the same venue next Sunday, 14 December, but the time of the rearranged match has not yet been confirmed.
Armagh champions Crossmaglen are bidding to win the provincial title for the third year in a row, while Derry winners Ballinderry last lifted the Seamus McFerran Cup in 2001.
Quote from: drici on November 27, 2010, 07:18:36 PM
The Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Final Replay between Ballinderry Shamrocks and Crossmaglen Rangers has fallen victim to the bad weather.
The eagerly-awaited clash, coming seven days after the sides' 1-10 to 1-10 draw, has been postponed due to a frozen pitch at Brewster Park in Enniskillen.
It had been due to throw in at 3.45pm.
The game has been re-fixed for the same venue next Sunday, 14 December, but the time of the rearranged match has not yet been confirmed.
Armagh champions Crossmaglen are bidding to win the provincial title for the third year in a row, while Derry winners Ballinderry last lifted the Seamus McFerran Cup in 2001.
Drici, can you post a picture of what I got for Christmas that year?
Quote from: Orior on November 27, 2010, 09:57:57 PM
Drici, can you post a picture of what I got for Christmas that year?
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Very good.
What was the weather like in Clones today.
Blue skies i believe!!
Weather doesn't look too promising for fixtures going ahead this sat and sun either! If called off again will they be left till after Christmas and is the game in London still fixed for sun 12th Dec if they do go ahead?
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 02:16:01 PM
Weather doesn't look too promising for fixtures going ahead this sat and sun either! If called off again will they be left till after Christmas and is the game in London still fixed for sun 12th Dec if they do go ahead?
Getting ahead of yourselves there! Counting your chickens etc etc etc
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 30, 2010, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 02:16:01 PM
Weather doesn't look too promising for fixtures going ahead this sat and sun either! If called off again will they be left till after Christmas and is the game in London still fixed for sun 12th Dec if they do go ahead?
Getting ahead of yourselves there! Counting your chickens etc etc etc
Nah! Just asking a question to which I'm sure both sides would like to know the answer! Obviously you're not able to help, so why bother pretending to be smart!
Fixtures rescheduled for this Weekend
● ULSTER CLUB FINAL RE-FIXTURE
CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS V NAOMH CONAILL (DONEGAL)
CLONES SUNDAY DECEMBER 5TH 2PM
Firstly let's credit the Ulster Council with the early decision to call off the scheduled trio of Ulster finals at the weekend due to the inclement weather. While a lot of people expected the decision following the earlier than usual cold snap which has hit the country, over the years decisions like those have been left to the last minute but not so in this case.
The Ulster Council has re-fixed the Junior, Intermediate and Senior finals at the same time and at the same venues for this coming weekend. This means that Intermediate final featuring Lisnaskea Emmett's (Fermanagh) and Monaghan side Doohamlet, managed by Silverbridge's Fergal Reel will take place on Sat Dec 4 @ 7pm in Kingspan Breffni Park
St Tiernach's Park, Clones will host a double header on Sunday Dec 5 with Corduff (Monaghan) v Swanlinbar (Cavan) Throw-In: 12.15pm Ref-Stephen McNamee playing in the Junior final followed by the Senior final at 2pm between Crossmaglen Rangers and Naomh Conaill Referee - Joe McQuillan.
The postponement of the Senior game will leave the winners with only a week to sort out their arrangements for London, as the Ulster champions are scheduled to play Neasden Gaels on Sunday Dec 12 at 1-30 pm in Ruislip, in the quarter-final. The winners of that quarter final will play the winners of the Leinster Championship on Sat, Feb 26. The Leinster final is scheduled for Sunday Dec 5 between Kilmacud Crokes (Dublin) and Rhode( Offaly). Recently crowned Connacht champions St Brigid's (Roscommon) will play the winners of Dr Crokes (Kerry) and Nemo Rangers (Cork) who also play on Sunday Dec 5 in the Munster final on that same Saturday in February.
The Intermediate championship semi-finals on Jan 31 see the Ulster champions Lisnaskea or Doohamlet take on the winners of the Leinster final between Ballymore (Kildare) and Nobber (Meath). The other semi-final sees Connacht champions Naomh Seamus (Galway) play the winner of the Munster final between Gneeveguilla (Kerry) and St Brecken's (Clare). The final will take place on Saturday Feb 12.
In the Junior championship Connacht Champions Parke-Killogue-Crimlin from Galway will travel to Old Bedians Sports Ground, Manchester on Sunday Dec 5 for a quarter final meeting with St Peter's. The winner of that quarter final will face the Munster champions who will come from any of the following four who have yet to play their semi-final matches Tallow (Waterford) v Bruree (Limerick) or St Mary's (Kerry) v Eire Og, Nenagh (Tipperary).The other All-Ireland semi-final will be between Leinster winners St Andrew's (Carlow) or Ballinbrackey (Meath) and Ulster winners Corduff (Monaghan) or Swanlinbar (Cavan) The final will take place on February 12th.
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 30, 2010, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 30, 2010, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 02:16:01 PM
Weather doesn't look too promising for fixtures going ahead this sat and sun either! If called off again will they be left till after Christmas and is the game in London still fixed for sun 12th Dec if they do go ahead?
Getting ahead of yourselves there! Counting your chickens etc etc etc
Nah! Just asking a question to which I'm sure both sides would like to know the answer! Obviously you're not able to help, so why bother pretending to be smart!
Only commenting, sure you all have the flights booked to London even before last Sunday. Isn't that what you are afraid, losing the fares you had already paid, even though it was probably laundered money anyway!
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 30, 2010, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 30, 2010, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 30, 2010, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 02:16:01 PM
Weather doesn't look too promising for fixtures going ahead this sat and sun either! If called off again will they be left till after Christmas and is the game in London still fixed for sun 12th Dec if they do go ahead?
Getting ahead of yourselves there! Counting your chickens etc etc etc
Nah! Just asking a question to which I'm sure both sides would like to know the answer! Obviously you're not able to help, so why bother pretending to be smart!
Only commenting, sure you all have the flights booked to London even before last Sunday. Isn't that what you are afraid, losing the fares you had already paid, even though it was probably laundered money anyway!
Sure money is money anyway even if it is laundered you still dont want to be losing it over a bit of cold weather. But at least the oil is selling well at the minute! ;) ;) ;) ;)
Ulster Final called off on Sunday! I believe it has been refixed for Sun 12th Dec!
But you'll stick your head back out and shout
'We'll have another round'
11-12-10 (Saturday)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Final
Doohamlet O'Neills v Lisnaskea Emmetts
2-00pm Breffni Park
TBC
12-12-10 (Sunday)
Ulster Junior Football Championship
Final
Corduff Gaels v Swanlinbar St Marys
12-00 noon Clones
Stephen Mc Namee
Ulster Senior Football Championship
Final
Crossmaglen Rangers v Naomh Conaill
1-45pm Clones
Joe Mc Quillan
With the delay/s, who does this favor?
Cross knows what to expect in a final and it gives them more time to prepare for Naomh Conaill.
On the other hand Naomh Conaill anticpates a match only to see it postponed and maybe second thoughts start to creep in.
Advantage who?
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on December 03, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
With the delay/s, who does this favor?
Cross knows what to expect in a final and it gives them more time to prepare for Naomh Conaill.
On the other hand Naomh Conaill anticpates a match only to see it postponed and maybe second thoughts start to creep in.
Advantage who?
Have you not answered it?
I think this game should be fixed for somewhere with floodlights. In December it can be very dull even in the middle of the day, having the option of turning on floodlights would be useful.
i see that even if the game was going ahead on sunday, it was still 4th out of 4 on the TG4 games list. and they think were paranoid about ulster GAA coverage. the 3rd game was a womans match too.
Munster Senior Football Championship Final
Nemo Rangers v Dr Crokes live
Leinster Senior Football Championship Final
Kilmacud Crokes v Rhode delayed coverage
Peil na mBan All Ireland Senior Football Final
Carnacon(Mayo) v Inch Rovers(Cork) delayed coverage
would have been interesting to see if the ulster final and woman's match was the only 2 on, who would have been live and who would have been deferred !
Both Camps Reveal Frustration
Crossmaglen Rangers joint-manager Tony McEntee admits that the second postponement of the Ulster Club football Final against Naomh Conaill is "another blow".
Ulster Council chiefs were forced to call off their Senior, Intermediate and Junior Football Finals for a second weekend running, and McEntee said it was a major source of frustration for everyone involved."We have young guys in particular who will be playing in their first Ulster final and this waiting game is especially frustrating for them," he said.
"But they will have to be patient. We cannot afford to take our-eye-off-the-ball even though things are at a standstill."
Naomh Conaill's Leo McLoone admits that the cancellation of the Ulster Club championship Final has been frustrating. Killing time hasn't made things any easier in the Tidy Town.
Despite the cold snap, Cathal Corey and his men have been able to get some work done during the first week, with inside sessions at the local school gym, facilitating the necessary graft.
On-the-flip-side, McLoone feels that a lot of the pre-match hype has died a little. The media, both print and broadcasting, wrapped most of their preview material last week, and with those duties out of the way for most; the demand on their time isn't what it was.
"There mightn't be as much nerves or anxiety towards the game. Hopefully, that might be one plus out of the whole thing. Ciaran Boyle had a little niggle, and the extra week will obviously be a benefit to him."
McLoone's displays for his club this term will surely have propelled him to the fore of County manager Jim McGuinness' thoughts ahead of Dr McKenna Cup duty, in early January.
Nevertheless, the player isn't affording any of his time or attention to Donegal until Glenties' Ulster odyssey is concluded one way or the other.
"It's all about belief. We got that wee run and after every game we've improved in that aspect. It's the same with the county; if you can string a few games together, confidence will grow. At the moment, the main thing is Naomh Conaill for all of us; whatever comes along after is a bonus."
The Ulster Council has amended the starting times for next weekend's rescheduled games. While the intermediate final between Lisnaskea and Doohamlet had been arranged for a 7pm throw-in in Breffni Park on each of the last two Saturdays it has now been scheduled for a 2pm start next Saturday. "We feel that this will best facilitate players and fans taking everything into consideration," Ulster PRO Oliver Galligan said.
The junior final has been again fixed for Clones on Sunday next but with an earlier throw-in time of 12 noon, while the senior decider will begin at 1.45pm. This is designed to allow fans to return home in relative daylight.
Ulster Council secretary Danny Murphy remains hopeful that the province's club football finals will be played next weekend. Murphy said the provincial body would have a meeting to discuss their options if their finals have to be called off again next weekend, which would be their third postponement, but is hopeful that it won't come to that. And it seems the Down native is determined to have the finals played before Christmas at all costs."We have a problem with that (postponing the finals until the New Year) because our intermediate and junior football champions are due to play All-Ireland Quarter Finals in January," he said.
"If the pitches are playable I think that's preferable to having all of the teams hanging around until January."
It won't be freezing on Sunday, whatever sort of nick the pitch is in!
Not sure what the weathers like in Clones but
With Belfast missing the worst of the snow and the little amount it had compared to most areas clearing pretty quickly would it not be an idea for the Ulster Council to have Casement on stand by to fulfill the fixture. I'm sure both clubs will he happy to get it played this weekend regardless of location.
common sense and Ulster council don't fit! To be fair they have done better lately
QuoteWith Belfast missing the worst of the snow and the little amount it had compared to most areas clearing pretty quickly would it not be an idea for the Ulster Council to have Casement on stand by to fulfill the fixture. I'm sure both clubs will he happy to get it played this weekend regardless of location.
Why Casement? The Donegal people would rightly argue for Enniskillen or Omagh, if a back up is needed.
Quote from: armaghniac on December 09, 2010, 01:13:01 PM
QuoteWith Belfast missing the worst of the snow and the little amount it had compared to most areas clearing pretty quickly would it not be an idea for the Ulster Council to have Casement on stand by to fulfill the fixture. I'm sure both clubs will he happy to get it played this weekend regardless of location.
Why Casement? The Donegal people would rightly argue for Enniskillen or Omagh, if a back up is needed.
Enniskillen and Omagh have seen as much snow as Clones! I've been to Belfast this week and it seems that this game could and probably should have been played in Casement on either of the last two weekends for the sake of the players! The biggest concern for the Ulster council seems to be a fear of not enough people going to the games because of the weather and therefore a lack of £10 notes at the turnstiles!
Don't think there's any chance of the game being played in Fermanagh/Monaghan over the weekend and probably not Tyrone either having been through them every day this week. Belfast certainly avoided the worst of it and it's their only hope this Sunday.
I seriously doubt it will be £10 notes! more like €20 notes they will be losing out on! Robbing b,stards. Ballygawley roundabout around 6.30pm ;-)
from met.ie
Saturday night will be cold and frosty again with lowest temperatures of -2 or -3 degrees generally and freezing fog will be widespread. It will be cold and frosty on Sunday morning too, but eventually temperatures will reach 4 or 5 degrees during the afternoon. And when the fog clears on Sunday, the weather will be bright and sunny for the few short hours of the day.
After pitch inspection this morning the Ulster finals are 80% certain of going ahead in Clones on Sunday! Another inspection tomorrow morning at 10.
Just heard...
"Following issues with frozen water systems at St Tiernachs Park Clones, both the Senior and Junior Finals have been moved to Kingspan Breffni Park at the times of 12.15pm and 2.00pm on Sunday"
Club Finals Get Go Ahead
Following issues with frozen water systems at St Tiernachs Park, Clones, both the Senior and Junior Finals have been moved to Kingspan Breffni Park at the times of 12.15pm and 2.00pm on Sunday. The Intermediate Final will proceed tomorrow as scheduled below:
Saturday 11th December @ Kingspan Breffni Park
AIB Ulster Club Intermediate Football Championship Final:
Lisnaskea (Fear Manach) v Doohamlet (Muineachán)
Throw-In: 2.00pm
Sunday 12th December @ at Kingspan Breffni Park
AIB Ulster Club Senior Football Championship Final:
Crossmaglen (Ard Mhacha) v Naomh Conaill (Dún na nGall)
Throw-In: 2.00pm
AIB Ulster Club Junior Football Championship Final:
Corduff (Muineachán) v Swanlinbar (An Cabhán)
Throw-In: 12.15pm
QuoteWhat are frozen water systems?
The Mr Slushy machine in the premium refreshment area.
Cross minus 2 in some price, Cross to beat the Donegal lads by 6. Fill your boots lads
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2010, 11:48:25 PM
Cross minus 2 in some price, Cross to beat the Donegal lads by 6. Fill your boots lads
I don't know Milltown, not after what I heard what happened tonight at training, ball definitely falling in favour of Tir Connail men.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2010, 11:48:25 PM
Cross minus 2 in some price, Cross to beat the Donegal lads by 6. Fill your boots lads
id love to see glenties win for some reason,but i reckon ill lump on cross -3.saw glenties against kingscourt in the first round and they werent that great,cant see them winning at all.
BC1- stop putting doubts in my head >:(
Stop you :D :D :D
Look I'm putting me tenner on it this weekend. (well, my online tenner ;)) Yes things have died down in regards to the hype of the game and what not, the reality is though, a team such as Cross with that experience should come through with something to spare (well 3 at least)
Quote from: hardstation on December 10, 2010, 11:45:23 PM
I thought that Clones had just got their pitch done and it would no longer be the bog we have had to put up with?
Now we have a new problem, 'frozen water systems'.
It really is a shit pitch. Gone but not forgotten...........
Might have nothing to do with the pitch - water could just be frozen and fooked in Clones in general...
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 10, 2010, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 10, 2010, 11:45:23 PM
I thought that Clones had just got their pitch done and it would no longer be the bog we have had to put up with?
Now we have a new problem, 'frozen water systems'.
It really is a shit pitch. Gone but not forgotten...........
Might have nothing to do with the pitch - water could just be frozen and fooked in Clones in general...
Great venue for a final but shite pitch, Casement is the best without doubt!!
Quote from: hardstation on December 11, 2010, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 10, 2010, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 10, 2010, 11:45:23 PM
I thought that Clones had just got their pitch done and it would no longer be the bog we have had to put up with?
Now we have a new problem, 'frozen water systems'.
It really is a shit pitch. Gone but not forgotten...........
Might have nothing to do with the pitch - water could just be frozen and fooked in Clones in general...
WTF?
pitch might of got done up but clones is still a sh*t hole,i think thats what hes saying. 8)
Quote from: hardstation on December 11, 2010, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 10, 2010, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 10, 2010, 11:45:23 PM
I thought that Clones had just got their pitch done and it would no longer be the bog we have had to put up with?
Now we have a new problem, 'frozen water systems'.
It really is a shit pitch. Gone but not forgotten...........
Might have nothing to do with the pitch - water could just be frozen and fooked in Clones in general...
WTF?
If the water in Clones is fooked and mains pipes brusted, it could be no water in the pitch for showers etc etc. If that is so, it would be enough of a reason to move the game away from there....
And yes Clones is a dump
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Stop you :D :D :D
Look I'm putting me tenner on it this weekend. (well, my online tenner ;)) Yes things have died down in regards to the hype of the game and what not, the reality is though, a team such as Cross with that experience should come through with something to spare (well 3 at least)
Row over the team, that is all I'll say. Keep your tenner in your virtual pocket.
Quote from: hardstation on December 11, 2010, 12:21:51 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 11, 2010, 12:12:54 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 11, 2010, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 10, 2010, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 10, 2010, 11:45:23 PM
I thought that Clones had just got their pitch done and it would no longer be the bog we have had to put up with?
Now we have a new problem, 'frozen water systems'.
It really is a shit pitch. Gone but not forgotten...........
Might have nothing to do with the pitch - water could just be frozen and fooked in Clones in general...
WTF?
If the water in Clones is fooked and mains pipes brusted, it could be no water in the pitch for showers etc etc. If that is so, it would be enough of a reason to move the game away from there....
And yes Clones is a dump
What a dump. Why are we being pulled back time and again to this shithole in the middle of nowhere, suitable for fcuk all?
The pitch isn't suitable for football but for a few weeks in summer. It has never been suitable for hurling.
Close it down to fcuk.
Two words....
Monaghan Mafia
Ulster junior and senior finals moved to Kingspan Breffni Park, Cavan on Sunday, same times apply.
It's hardly a problem with the public toilets in Clones because they don't have any! ;D
11-12-10 (Saturday)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship
Final
Doohamlet O'Neills 1-07 Lisnaskea Emmetts 0-13
Glenties have to be in with a fair shout no?? If they can hold Cross in the first 15 minutes, which is when they have been laying the foundations for victory, they must have a very good chance. Cross really aren't the team of old, and bar their opening 15 minute salvos they have generally reverted to the middling enough team that struggled to win the Armagh championsip. If Glenites show any sign of weakness thou they will be ruthlessly crushed. Cross will do anything to win (not a criticism), Glenties have to be prepared to do the same.
Decent day for the games. Hopefully a similar standard in the senior game!
There's no way this is going to finish with 30 men on the pitch.
Both sides well revved up for it.
Who missed out for clarke?
Francie is a cert for a red and a bone cruncher coming up shortly lol
Francie on for the sledging
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 12, 2010, 02:31:31 PM
Francie is a cert for a red and a bone cruncher coming up shortly lol
Hasn't been to the barbers yet either.
Score?
Glenties 0-7
Cross 1-3
Glenties young lads are giving as good as they get. Tough boys. Clarke and Mc Conville have taken a few big hits and it seems to be getting to Mc Conville. Francie will sort the men from the boys but. Should be a good second half. Is it replay or extra time if level?
Glad to have the 11/4 on Naomh Conaill though Cross have broken my heart once this year so I'll not be getting too excited yet.
Glenties good going forward, and swarming well in defence, not getting much joy from the ref, a lot of pulling of jersies being let go. FB line has been under a lot of pressure. Jamie, Oisin, Johnny H and Titch have been singled out for "special" treatment. Time for some lads to stand up and be counted.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 12, 2010, 02:39:21 PM
Glad to have the 11/4 on Naomh Conaill though Cross have broken my heart once this year so I'll not be getting too excited yet.
As for you I hope we break your heart and your pocket ye ST Pat's fecker :P
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
Glenties good going forward, and swarming well in defence, not getting much joy from the ref, a lot of pulling of jersies being let go. FB line has been under a lot of pressure. Jamie, Oisin, Johnny H and Titch have been singled out for "special" treatment. Time for some lads to stand up and be counted.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 12, 2010, 02:39:21 PM
Glad to have the 11/4 on Naomh Conaill though Cross have broken my heart once this year so I'll not be getting too excited yet.
As for you I hope we break your heart and your pocket ye ST Pat's fecker :P
They are giving as good as they are getting plus interest. Clarke in particular getting his retaliation in first. Good game of football with enough on and off the ball to keep in bubbling.
Score? in town shopping!
2-07 to 0-08
John mac just on for McKenna
Too cute, too strong, didn't play great but still a great team. 11/4 was never enough to tent anyone who wasn't bitter! ;D ;D
score?
On RTE it's half time?
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on December 12, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Too cute, too strong, didn't play great but still a great team. 11/4 was never enough to tent anyone who wasn't bitter! ;D ;D
What price would have tented you?
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 12, 2010, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on December 12, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Too cute, too strong, didn't play great but still a great team. 11/4 was never enough to tent anyone who wasn't bitter! ;D ;D
What price would have tented you?
Sorry, a carlsberg slip there, but surely it would have took at least 6/1 to be tempted! Party later in cross! :D
Jaysus, Francie's still got it!
Cross really got going when TK foolishly got 2 yellows, with good subs to keep the pace up. 8 Ulster's is some record!
Just watched the game again on tg4. Nearly sure I seen that fat fool sludden make the decision to send TK off. There's credibility for you! Who's sneaking him back into football!
Think you will find that two yellow cards are followed by a red! TK got them himself. you cant have it both ways! Cross must pay out some fees after these games
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2010, 06:52:39 PM
Think you will find that two yellow cards are followed by a red! TK got them himself. you cant have it both ways! Cross must pay out some fees after these games
Think you will find that NG tried to rough cross up from the throw in, obviously trying to stop us get off to a flying start as we have done in the last few games but class shines through! Nobody can accuse us of being cynical in this game!!! Fair play to them for a good, hard fought game and I'm sure they'll be back again but this cross team are far from finished!
Hard hitting game with the glenties falling into the cross trap once again. A tactic that has proved the downfall of so many teams in the past ie St Gall's. Instead ofvgoing out and trying to play football they went out to try and battered and beat the cross. You can bet they were gleaming at half time knowing the the Glenties weren't interested in playing football and more interested in stopping cross. As an Armagh man I'm glad cross won the game fully deserved in a long hard fought ulster campaign.
Francie makes a fair difference to that cross full back line too. Glenties sent a lot more high ball in than good ball and it wasn't working at all.
Cross were just that bit better. Jamie Clarke looks a class act and deservedly man of the match. I wondered why he was WHF instead of corner forward with the poaching instinct but he see,ed to play a good bit in there.
AK / McConville weren't as prominent today but sign of a good team when some boys are less influential other boys stand up.
Glenties aren't a bad team. You consider the main men for them are U21 there'll be a few years in the team yet.
I still don't think Cross will win the AI but they are hard to beat so you never know.
Have to agree the Donegal men made a fatal error in their tactics. Some of the Cross players were very restrained considering the attention they were given. McConville still oozes class. Think Cross are well in with a shout for the AI, too long in the tooth to rule them out.
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2010, 09:16:19 PM
Francie makes a fair difference to that cross full back line too. Glenties sent a lot more high ball in than good ball and it wasn't working at all.
Cross were just that bit better. Jamie Clarke looks a class act and deservedly man of the match. I wondered why he was WHF instead of corner forward with the poaching instinct but he see,ed to play a good bit in there.
AK / McConville weren't as prominent today but sign of a good team when some boys are less influential other boys stand up.
Glenties aren't a bad team. You consider the main men for them are U21 there'll be a few years in the team yet.
I still don't think Cross will win the AI but they are hard to beat so you never know.
Agree with you there and yet he still ended up scoring 1-4!! He can still play a bit yet!
Great performance from Cross in the 2nd half
Backs played a stormer also
Oisin hit two unbelieveable points in the 2nd half
Roads to cavan were pretty icey today
Quote from: tyroneboi on December 12, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
Agree with you there and yet he still ended up scoring 1-4!! He can still play a bit yet!
When McConville was oneonone you knew he was going to net it - probably as good as anyone in that position. He was pretty well marked today I thought and I did think at one stage he may get the line but he stuck in and scored a few good scores in the end. Sign of a class act.
HS Clarke was class today so McConville isn't even the best forward in Cross on that display...
QuoteRoads to cavan were pretty icey today
They were indeed. Salt is being conserved towards the snow next weekend.
QuoteI'm not talking about today.
It is certainly doubtful if anyone will ever even reach half McConville's score in the Ulster club championship.
Well done Cross. Some club. The dying embers of the golden era are still the best in Ulster.
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
You are all correct. Crossmaglen players never do anything. Always play the game to the letter of the law. Never cynical. Never foul. And those pesky St. galls and Glenties players roughing them up.
And then today, poor Tony Kernan running past a Glenties player and the dirty Donegal player sticks out his chin and hits poor Tony on the elbow and what does the disgraced Sludden do, goes and gets poor Tony sent off.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on December 13, 2010, 12:22:57 AM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
You are all correct. Crossmaglen players never do anything. Always play the game to the letter of the law. Never cynical. Never foul. And those pesky St. galls and Glenties players roughing them up.
And then today, poor Tony Kernan running past a Glenties player and the dirty Donegal player sticks out his chin and hits poor Tony on the elbow and what does the disgraced Sludden do, goes and gets poor Tony sent off.
To be fair Winnie peg you might be right as to why Kernan got sent off. On saying that Tony Kernan is not a dirty player and given what else was going on in the game Cross people wonder how he got picked out above anyone else. Maybe he just isn't as cute as the rest. I would like to know what McConville got booked for any how the Glenties player did not even get a free given against him for the frontal challenge on McConville later on. The problem seemed to be that Cross players found it easier to get a yellow for a challenge a Glenties player didn't get a yellow for.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on December 13, 2010, 12:22:57 AM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
You are all correct. Crossmaglen players never do anything. Always play the game to the letter of the law. Never cynical. Never foul. And those pesky St. galls and Glenties players roughing them up.
And then today, poor Tony Kernan running past a Glenties player and the dirty Donegal player sticks out his chin and hits poor Tony on the elbow and what does the disgraced Sludden do, goes and gets poor Tony sent off.
The man is a tool.
Im not saying that Cross were innocent but the fact that TG4 didn't even have a replay of the incident - well let's say innocent untill proven guilty, because I didn't see anything happen and another poster who was at the game did not see it.
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on December 13, 2010, 12:22:57 AM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
You are all correct. Crossmaglen players never do anything. Always play the game to the letter of the law. Never cynical. Never foul. And those pesky St. galls and Glenties players roughing them up.
And then today, poor Tony Kernan running past a Glenties player and the dirty Donegal player sticks out his chin and hits poor Tony on the elbow and what does the disgraced Sludden do, goes and gets poor Tony sent off.
The man is a tool.
Im not saying that Cross were innocent but the fact that TG4 didn't even have a replay of the incident - well let's say innocent untill proven guilty, because I didn't see anything happen and another poster who was at the game did not see it.
Seen both incidents.
McConville was down and they kinda got mixed up the Glenties man.
There was nothing in it, Glenties man got up was not hurt so harsh enough.
Tony's was an awkward looking attempted shoulder tackle after the 2 had been invoved in some minor afters.
His arm may have come up but it was certainly not an elbow. The glenties man ran on without any ill effects
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
I think you're on to something. Louth is very close to Armagh too, just over the border in fact.
Throw ball has a point there i seen that incident where McConville was flattened in front of the ref, shoulder straight into the chest and not even a free kick. I also thought McConville was singled out a few other times and got nothing for it, I'm thinking Oisin wrote something in the papers about the ref a while back? but i suppose he and Cross got their reward in the end.
Cross were no Angels either and i thought Hanratty started the whole lot as whilst shaking hands with the other midfielder before the ball was thrown in he pulled his opponent into him and hit him with the chest. But the best team won and i wish Cross the best of luck in the All Ireland
Quote from: illdecide on December 13, 2010, 09:49:12 AM
Throw ball has a point there i seen that incident where McConville was flattened in front of the ref, shoulder straight into the chest and not even a free kick. I also thought McConville was singled out a few other times and got nothing for it, I'm thinking Oisin wrote something in the papers about the ref a while back? but i suppose he and Cross got their reward in the end.
Cross were no Angels either and i thought Hanratty started the whole lot as whilst shaking hands with the other midfielder before the ball was thrown in he pulled his opponent into him and hit him with the chest. But the best team won and i wish Cross the best of luck in the All Ireland
You'll find that the Glenties man wouldn't let go of Johnny's hand and was trying to get him to rise. They singled him and Titch from the throw in and tried to get them rattled a la Kennelly to Murphy. The refereeing was shocking but these things happen in games and at the end of the day you take the rough with the smooth. Tony was caught, other days you wouldn't be. He will learn from it and it is not the first time things like this happen. I have always said refereeing decisions generally don't win or lose games and the better teams can rise above poor refereeing and win the game on their own merits.
I had a very detailed analysis there and someone rang me and I pressed the wrong button and lost it all. I won't bother my head with doing it again. Glenties didn't have the legs. They put so much effort into containing us in the first half they had nothing left. Cross can take hits all day and it doesn't really take much out of the players, also they have an excellent bench to make changes so they have a major advantage over many teams. There is still a lot of work to be done to get the lads up to the level of AI winning but they are in the next round and that is all that matters. Neasden Gaels will be tough to beat, any match in London is always hard but if the lads mind themselves over Christmas thenn they will be in a strong position. Kilmacud will be favourites to win the Semi no matter who comes through but if it is our lads they won't feel daunted in any fashion.
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on December 13, 2010, 12:22:57 AM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
You are all correct. Crossmaglen players never do anything. Always play the game to the letter of the law. Never cynical. Never foul. And those pesky St. galls and Glenties players roughing them up.
And then today, poor Tony Kernan running past a Glenties player and the dirty Donegal player sticks out his chin and hits poor Tony on the elbow and what does the disgraced Sludden do, goes and gets poor Tony sent off.
The man is a tool.
Im not saying that Cross were innocent but the fact that TG4 didn't even have a replay of the incident - well let's say innocent untill proven guilty, because I didn't see anything happen and another poster who was at the game did not see it.
Why pick on me, I'm agreeing with you ;D. The fact that you and another poster and TG4 didnt pick it up then it didnt happen.
AndOisin ;D getting booked was a disgrace when then that Glenties player lying on the ground got up and hit Oisin's knee with his back and he wasn't even spoken to. I would like all you Anti Cross people to view the video and see that Cross players never committed any personal or consistent fouling and played the game totally according to the rules.
Enough of this anti Cross stuff. ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2010, 06:52:39 PM
Think you will find that two yellow cards are followed by a red! TK got them himself. you cant have it both ways! Cross must pay out some fees after these games
The commentator expressed surprise that Sludden only cited Kernan, those of us from Armagh would understand that he has a sight (No pun intended) impairment which causes him only to see offences committed by Armagh men. Louth's problem was that their red jersey is closer to orange!!
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
Spot on.
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 13, 2010, 11:01:59 AM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 13, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: get up there on December 12, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
i might be wrong, i was at the game, sludden got tk sent off for f--k all, why has sludden created more controversy then the ref himself.. in a nutshell ... he is s--t >:(
There is a pattern emerging here....
Everytime he is involved in a game invoved with anything from Armagh a player gets sent off. Armagh vs Down in NFL - Sending off. Armagh vs Monaghan in Ulster - Sending off and then there is today.
Spot on.
No harm to ye lads but get over the paranoia
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Refs make good and bad decisions and we can disagree with them but to think someone has a particular grudge against a team/county is a small bit OTT. Tony mac even said TK should have been sent off!
You might note that I did not say TK did not deserve his second yellow. I stated the fact that the commentator said that the NC man should also have been dealt with. Martin Sludden has a history of harsh calls against Armagh teams some of which have been highlighted. I am led to believe his reputation within Tyrone is not good, perhaps some of our Tyrone brethren could confirm or deny that. He is a poor referee full stop, and McQuillan is not great either there was no consistency yesterday, both teams suffered as a result, the NC No.8 should also have seen second yellow...consistency?? The GAA needs to do something to improve consistency, refs will always make mistakes its the nature of the job.
On the game itself the best team won. NC were over reliant on the Brick Molloy and as Cross put it up to them resorted to hopeful ball lumped in, no better man than Francie to mop it up. I expected them to run more at Cross in the second half, perhaps they ran out of steam.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 13, 2010, 10:08:59 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 13, 2010, 09:49:12 AM
Throw ball has a point there i seen that incident where McConville was flattened in front of the ref, shoulder straight into the chest and not even a free kick. I also thought McConville was singled out a few other times and got nothing for it, I'm thinking Oisin wrote something in the papers about the ref a while back? but i suppose he and Cross got their reward in the end.
Cross were no Angels either and i thought Hanratty started the whole lot as whilst shaking hands with the other midfielder before the ball was thrown in he pulled his opponent into him and hit him with the chest. But the best team won and i wish Cross the best of luck in the All Ireland
You'll find that the Glenties man wouldn't let go of Johnny's hand and was trying to get him to rise. They singled him and Titch from the throw in and tried to get them rattled a la Kennelly to Murphy. The refereeing was shocking but these things happen in games and at the end of the day you take the rough with the smooth. Tony was caught, other days you wouldn't be. He will learn from it and it is not the first time things like this happen. I have always said refereeing decisions generally don't win or lose games and the better teams can rise above poor refereeing and win the game on their own merits.
I had a very detailed analysis there and someone rang me and I pressed the wrong button and lost it all. I won't bother my head with doing it again. Glenties didn't have the legs. They put so much effort into containing us in the first half they had nothing left. Cross can take hits all day and it doesn't really take much out of the players, also they have an excellent bench to make changes so they have a major advantage over many teams. There is still a lot of work to be done to get the lads up to the level of AI winning but they are in the next round and that is all that matters. Neasden Gaels will be tough to beat, any match in London is always hard but if the lads mind themselves over Christmas thenn they will be in a strong position. Kilmacud will be favourites to win the Semi no matter who comes through but if it is our lads they won't feel daunted in any fashion.
Is there a date set for the match against Neasden ? I will take a spin down to it likely.
Quote from: maddog on December 13, 2010, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 13, 2010, 10:08:59 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 13, 2010, 09:49:12 AM
Throw ball has a point there i seen that incident where McConville was flattened in front of the ref, shoulder straight into the chest and not even a free kick. I also thought McConville was singled out a few other times and got nothing for it, I'm thinking Oisin wrote something in the papers about the ref a while back? but i suppose he and Cross got their reward in the end.
Cross were no Angels either and i thought Hanratty started the whole lot as whilst shaking hands with the other midfielder before the ball was thrown in he pulled his opponent into him and hit him with the chest. But the best team won and i wish Cross the best of luck in the All Ireland
You'll find that the Glenties man wouldn't let go of Johnny's hand and was trying to get him to rise. They singled him and Titch from the throw in and tried to get them rattled a la Kennelly to Murphy. The refereeing was shocking but these things happen in games and at the end of the day you take the rough with the smooth. Tony was caught, other days you wouldn't be. He will learn from it and it is not the first time things like this happen. I have always said refereeing decisions generally don't win or lose games and the better teams can rise above poor refereeing and win the game on their own merits.
I had a very detailed analysis there and someone rang me and I pressed the wrong button and lost it all. I won't bother my head with doing it again. Glenties didn't have the legs. They put so much effort into containing us in the first half they had nothing left. Cross can take hits all day and it doesn't really take much out of the players, also they have an excellent bench to make changes so they have a major advantage over many teams. There is still a lot of work to be done to get the lads up to the level of AI winning but they are in the next round and that is all that matters. Neasden Gaels will be tough to beat, any match in London is always hard but if the lads mind themselves over Christmas thenn they will be in a strong position. Kilmacud will be favourites to win the Semi no matter who comes through but if it is our lads they won't feel daunted in any fashion.
Is there a date set for the match against Neasden ? I will take a spin down to it likely.
The chat last night was that it would be the last weekend in January. I wonder if ungolarmagh may make the return trip to get a game :P
Fair play to Cross. They've been in 'bonus territory' since the Dromintee game, that'll probably continue until St Paddy's Day!
No return trip for me BC1,
Theres a few other Ogs men on the Neasden Team eagerly waiting for this game
The game is down for the last sunday in Jan
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Gr-Eight
● ULSTER FINAL CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS 2-09 NAOMH CONAILL 0-10
The reason for the twice postponed Ulster Final between Crossmaglen Rangers and Conaill was still very much evident as spectators wound their way to the end venue Breffini Park after Clones was deemed unplayable.
On arrival at the Cavan venue the pitch was in superb order, a credit to all concerned as it hosted both the junior and senior finals. A very good crowd turned up to see the modern day David v Goliath in football terms as first time finalist Naomh Conaill were trying to prevent Crossmaglen Rangers extending their unbeated Ulster final record to eight.
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While the opening half did not go according to plan for the odds on favourites when the die was cast and they were down to 14 men, the men from Crossmaglen powered past the Glenties rivals.
The returned Jamie Clarke to the Rangers side, following a lengthy suspension was also seen as a great fillip to the Armagh Champions. So it proved as Jamie was selected as Man of the Match with a 1-2 to his credit and the vision and range of running to set up scores for colleagues none more than the Oisin McConville goal.
The old adage goals win games proved correct as the Donegal side mustered but one clear attempt at custodian Hearty, to which he stood firm.
'Scoring forwards win games' was the take from joint manager Tony McEntee who also said that the break at half time was crucial to get his team back on track. We have a very good panel of players and used them to get the result. Our aim at the start of the year has been fulfilled. The boys have worked very hard and can enjoy the Christmas break. We will not meet again until January. The London game is vital to us with the other provincial finals being played in January. Asked if managing or playing was the harder, he said "both were equally frustrating".
Cross settled the better as the match began with the nervous underdogs resorting to the concession of numerous needless frees in the opening minutes.
Midfielder Martin Rogan, ticked inside 10 seconds, picked up a very early yellow card before the opening score of the match arrived via the boot of the returned after suspension Jamie Clark. The Kernan brothers, Stephen and Tony combined to set up the games first point on four minutes.
Three minutes later, a misplaced free by Danny O'Callaghan saw Leo McLoone take full advantage as Naomh Conaill levelled three minutes following the lead point. Glenties had settled down and with centre half back and team captain Anthony Thompson leading the charge the Donegal men began to dictate.
McLoone was wide with an effort before seeing his next one come back off the upright. Glenties were rewarded with the lead when Dermot Molloy pointed a free following a foul on Dara Gallagher.
Up the other end an Oisin McConville effort was blocked out for a "45″ which fell short from Tony Kernan. In the ensuing scramble for the ball corner back Tommy Donognue was penalised and picked up a yellow card for the challenge. Oisin pointed the free to make it 2 all, 11 minutes in.
From the kick out Rangers raided with Tony Kernan and Mickey McNamee (in from the start from the selected programme team for Aaron Cunningham) setting up Jamie Clarke for a goal attempt. A great block from Donoghue (although a more than slight suspicion of a foot block) prevented the three pointer.
Naomh Conaill were back in front as Molloy converted a free for a foul on himself. Moments later the first turning point of the match arrived when Paul Hearty instinctively reacted to save a goal bound effort from Dara Gallagher. Rangers responded rapidly to the goal scare with telling effect as they immediately swept down field for a goal. Mickey Mac played a lovely ball over the top to Clarke who made no mistake this time, leaving goalkeeper Stephan McGrath helpless. 1-2 to 0-3 at the half's mid-point.
But instead of capitulating Naomh Conaill mounted a telling response to out score Cross 4-1 in the next quarter. A lovely Dara Gallagher point was the reply to the goal, three minutes later a six man move ended with midfielder John McLoone levelling matters 1-2 to 0-5 with a well executed score. With the bit between their teeth, as their half backs and midfielders broke forward in numbers, Naomh Conaill took the lead.
Brick Molloy punished a foul on Brendan McDyer with the lead point with seven minutes left on the short whistle.
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In a rare attack Tony Kernan found Mickey McNamee with a free and despite close attention Mickey kicked the teams level for the fourth time in the half. The teams traded wides (their fourth each) as the first substituion took place, Francie Bellew surprisingly in for McNamee.
A foul on the very impressive Glenties Captain Thompson, who donimated the opening half, enabled Dara Gallagher to give the rank underdog a very worthy 0-7 to 1-3 interval lead. Indeed the half time whistle was the last thing that the Donegal champions needed to hear as they were clearly getting to grips with the daunting task which they faced.
Rangers substitute Bellew lined out at full-forward for the second half and saw immediate involvement winning the team a "45″ which was put wide by Tony Kernan.
Francie then gained possession and passed to Tony Kernan who knocked over a lovely point in what was to be an eventful and forgetful 4 minutes spell at the start of the second half. A yellow card for Tony for a high challenge was picked up before Molloy ballooned miles wide for Glenties. Then, a second yellow for Tony for an off the ball incident, reported by the linesman, saw Cross down to 14 men. Conaill captain misplaced a free deep in Cross territory and it was to have huge consequences for his team. Francis Hanratty raced away with the ball and let it off to Jamie Clarke who jinked inside a defender before unleashing a pin point crossfield pass into the arms of Oisin. The hitman ace marksman calmly slotted to the net for a most vital score 2-4 to 0-7.
Before the sending off and the goal occurred Cross had been trying to introduce two subs but the man with the numbers board, the fourth official, was not very official. A goal lead did not stop the introduction of Martin Aherne and Aaron Cunningham for the two Stephens, Finnegan and Kernan.
James Morgan and Leon Thompson picked up yellow cards before Cavan referee Joe McQuillian, who had not had a good day at the office, gave Johnny Hanratty a yellow despite him getting a punch from Molloy.
To compound Rangers dissatisfaction with the ref he gave Naomh Conaill a free for nothing, in front of the post. If the Cavan official deemed it a free it should have been a penalty as it was inside the square. Molloy pointed for his teams first score of the second half after 15 minutes.
Substitute Cunningham fed Clarke who sublimely pointed from play 2-5 to 0-8 as Rangers began to find space and time all over the field despite being reduced numerically. A McConville free extended Rangers lead 2-6 to 0-8 with 13 minutes left on the clock.
Rangers Management were still not satisfied as they brought on Kyle Carragher for Francis Hanratty. Naomh Conaill, who had dramatically lost their way from the break brought off Leon Thompson for Seamus Corcoran.
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Oisin stamped the authority of the maestro he is with an outlandish point to put 5 points between the sides. John McEntee saw action, coming in for midfielder McKenna, with 6 minutes remaining.
Brendan McDyre pointed from play for Glenties as John McKenna entered the fray for John O'Malley. There was only one score between the teams when a Dara Gallagher free left it 0-10 to 2-7 with 2 minutes plus on the clock.
Naomh Conaill defence was hauled all over the field in the second half and a jaded Donoghue gifted Rangers a point for a foul on the lively Carragher. Aaron Kernan got on the score sheet by pointing the free.
2 minutes of added time gave Oisin a chance to repeat his early feat of yet another trademark super point to finish the scoring 2-9 to 0-10.
Rangers: Paul Hearty, Paul McKeown (C), Paul Kernan, James Morgan, Aaron Kernan (0-1), Danny O'Callagher, Stephen Finnegan, Johnny Hanratty, David McKenna, Jamie Clarke (1-2), Stephen Kernan, Francis Hanratty, Tony Kernan (0-1), Mickey McNamee (0-1) and Oisin McConville 1-4. Subs: Francis Bellew for Mickey McNamee, Martin Ahere for Stephen Finnegan, Aaron Cunningham for Stephen Kernan, Kyle Carragher for Francis Hanratty, John McEntee for David McEntee.
Naomh Conaill: Stephen McGrath, Tommy Donoghue, Johnn Donner, Ciaran Boyle, Marty Boyle, Anthony Thompson (C), Eoin Waide, Martin Regan, Johnny McLoone, Brendan McDyre, Leo McLoone, Dara Gallagher, John O'Malley, Dermot Molloy and Leon Thompson.
Gr-Eight
Dec 1-1996-Crossmaglen Rangers 1-07 Bellaghy (Derry) 1-07
Dec 8-1996-Crossmaglen Rangers 2-05 Bellaghy 0-08 (replay)
Nov 22-1998-Crossmaglen Rangers 1-11 Bellaghy (Derry) 1-10
Nov 21-1999- Crossmaglen Rangers 0-10 Enniskillen Gaels (Fermanagh) 0-09
Nov 28-2004-Crossmaglen Rangers 0-14 Mayobridge (Down) 0-09
Dec 3-2006-Crossmaglen Rangers 0-05 Ballinderry (Derry) 0-03 (One of the best days ever in Casey)
Nov 25-2007-Crossmaglen Rangers 1-09 St Gall's (Antrim) 1-06
Nov 30-2008-Crossmaglen Rangers 1-10 Ballinderry (Derry) 1-10 (Draw)
Dec 8-2008- Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Ballinderry(Derry) 1-04- (Replay)
Dec 12-2010- Crossmaglen Rangers 2-09 Naomh Conaill (Donegal) 0-10
Ulster Titles
16-01-11 (Sunday)
All Ireland Senior Football Championship
Quarter Final
Neasden Gaels v Crossmaglen Rangers
1-30pm Ruislip
Referee: Michael Duffy
Extra Time if required
Neasden Gaels can enjoy the Dinner Dance now with no match the next day.
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Great effort from Cross, Oisin flying along with all their young boys. Been impressed with morgan, mckenna, hanratty (suprisingly) , mckeown. Hopefully they do well in the All Ireland series.
Fourth Cross visit to Ruislip
All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Neasden Gaels (Londain) v Crossmaglen Rangers (Ard Macha)
Referee: Michael Duffy (Sligeach) (Extra Time if Necessary)
Having captured their eighth Ulster Club title in December Crossmaglen Rangers will visit Ruislip for the fourth time during those triumphs to take on the London champions in a quarter final match in the All-Ireland series. While the whole world, except those involved with Sunday's opponents Neasden Gaels, expect nothing but a win for the Ulster champions the gulf between the London champions and their Provincial opponents is narrowing year by year.
The Irish representatives are in a no win situation in that they are expected to win comfortably and if they do not questions are asked of them in other quarters. Rangers first two visits in 1998 and 2004 were pre-Christmas but their last one in 2008 was in January. Sunday's game was to be played last December but the snow put paid to that hence the upcoming visit on Sunday has added importance. The Leinster final between Kilmacud and Rhode also fell victim to the weather and with the winners of that match due to meet the winners of the Ruislip encounter, a meaningful match to fill the void before the semi-final will be welcomed by Cross.
By their own high standards Cross will be the first to admit that they have reached this stage of the competition without putting a complete full hour shift to compliment their ability. Still with patch performances and key players missing Rangers have disposed of some very useful opponents to earn their trip to London. Key attackers Oisin McConville and Jamie Clarke were at various stages of the Armagh and Ulster Championships unavailable through suspension but paired together for the Ulster Final their value was seen at it's potent best as they bagged a goal apiece in the defeat of Donegal Champions Naomh Conaill.
Cross warmed up for Sunday's match with a run out against Ollscoil Bhéal Feirsde but were without the services of the honeymooning Stephen Kernan. Stephen is expected to be available for the Ruislip game as is Oisin McConville who is getting married the following weekend.
Having lost the two previous London finals Neasden, under manager Fergal Cunningham (Waterford) and selectors Kevin Moore (Derry) and Enda Barrett (Mayo) with Johnny Wilson (Cork) as trainer, made the breakthrough in 2010 by beating Parnell's 1-7 to 0-6 to win the title. Based in Kingsbury, North London, Neasden Gaels under the chairmanship of Brian Mulry are regarded as a professional progressive tight knit club.
The team, which defeated Parnell's in the final had 4 Ulster men on their starting 15, defenders Keith Geraghty (Munterconnacht, Cavan), Phil McCone (Ballymacnab, Armagh), midfielder duo Conor McGoldrick (Naomh Treasa, Antrim) and Aidan Flanagan (An Riocht, Down).Substitutes Tomas Dougan (Pearse Og, Armagh) and Dannie O'Connor (Drumsurn, Derry) were used in the final.
Corner forward Stephen Lynch, a Carlow native, is their chief freetaker and topscored in the final with 5 points, all from frees.
An all Galway half forward line of Matthew and Paul Geraghty along with J Raftery work tirelessly for their team mates in both getting and setting up scores. The London champions are Captained by a Sligo man, Barry McDonagh, who will be hoping to put the shackles on Oisin.
Corner forward Stephen Lynch, a Carlow native, is their chief freetaker and topscored in the final with 5 points, all from frees.
An all Galway half forward line of Matthew and Paul Geraghty along with J Raftery work tirelessly for their team mates in both getting and setting up scores. The London champions are Captained by a Sligo man, Barry McDonagh, who will be hoping to put the shackles on Oisin.
On their first visit to London Cross beat Tir Chonaill Gaels 1-18 to 0-8. The second visit saw Kingdom Kerry Gaels beaten 2-10 to 1-9 and 2 years ago Tir Chonaill Gaels only lost out 0-10 to 0-6. As previously mentioned this is a non winner for Cross. Rangers management will be looking for only two things on Sunday a win and a clean bill of health and they will consider this a job well done regardless of what sort of game it is in Ruislip. Over the course of the last three games played by Cross in Ruislip there are many reasons to treat this match with trepidation, none least than the physicality of the hosts which, at times, can be over exhuberant.
MATCH STATISTICS
Dec 13 1998 -Crossmaglen Rangers 1-18 Tir Chonaill Gaels (London) 0-08-M Collins- Ruislip
Dec 5 2004 -Crossmaglen Rangers 2-10 Kingdom Kerry Gaels (London) 1-09-P Fox-Ruislip
Jan 27 2008 -Crossmaglen Rangers 0-10 Tir Chonaill Gaels (London) 0-06-S McCormick-Ruislip
Neasden Gaels 2-8 Tara 0-9
Parnells 2-8 Neasden Gaels 2-8
Neasden Gaels 1-11 Fulham Irish 0-3
Semi Finals
Neasden Gaels 4-8 St Kiernans 0-10
Parnells 0-8 Tir Chonaill Gaels 0-7
Final
Neasden Gaels 1-07 Parnells 0-6
Scorers — Neasden Gaels: S Lynch 0-5 (0-5f), P Geraghty 1-0, B Comer, T Gaughan 0-1 each. Parnells: D O'Sullivan 0-6 (0-5f); D O'Donovan 0-1.
Neasden Gaels Panel– Joe McNamara (Corofin, Galway) Cal O'Flynn (Moyvane, Kerry), Keith Geraghty (Munterconnacht, Cavan), Barry McDonagh Capt (Curry, Sligo); Phil McCone Ballymacnab, Armagh), Tony Gaughan (Kiltane, Mayo), Barry Comer (Dunboyne, Meath); Conor McGoldrick (Naomh Treasa, Antrim), AidanFlanagan (An Riocht, Down); Matthew Geraghty (Ballygar, Galway), Paul Geraghty (Glenamaddy, Galway) J Raftery (Oranmore-Maree, Galway); David Carty (Blackhall Gaels, Meath), Peadar Friel (Barna, Galway), Stephen Lynch (Rathvilly, Carlow). Subs: Tomas Dougan (Pearse Og, Armagh) Ciaran McGann (Kenagh, Longford) Dannie O'Connor (Drumsurn, Derry).
Is the Cross/Neasden match online live?
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on January 16, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
Is the Cross/Neasden match online live?
I have the audio on five fm - is there a live video anywhere?
Cross 0-5 Gaels 0-2 HT
Well done Cross. Neasden sound like a collection of blow-ins.
Final score?
Cross 1-08 Neasden 0-05
Ruislip relief
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-08 Neasden Gaels 0-05
With marriage nuptials very much to the forefront in Crossmaglen Rangers preparations for their trip to Ruislip, the actual match proved no honeymoon for the Ulster champions who struggled to find any semblance of form as they laboured to a 1-08 to 0-05 victory.
Cross management made a number of changes to the team which started the Ulster final. The returning from honeymoon Stephen Kernan was left on the bench replaced by John McEntee, Martin Aherne started ahead of Francis Hanratty and Brendan McKeown came into defence for Stephen Finnegan for his first competitive start since his leg break.
On a very heavy surface, which had hosted an earlier hurling match, Cross had the wind advantage in the first half but it was Neasden who settled the better in the opening stages but shot a couple of wides. Tenacity and tight marking were a feature for the home side whose physicality also caused Rangers some bother. Had the hosts got forwards who could score, the Armagh champions could have been in a lot of trouble given their sluggish performance as all but one of the Neasden tally of 5 points came from frees.
It was seven minutes in before the opening score of the match arrived via the boot of Galwayman Peadar Friel from a free and it was 6 minutes later following a trio of wides that Cross drew level. Rangers best performer on the day, Aaron Kernan, equalised from play and on the midpoint of the half Oisin McConville converted a free to give Cross a lead that would never be relinquished. Meathman David Carty with a free from his hands restored parity for the second time. The hosts had the better of the play but could not convert possession into points and inside the final 10 minutes of the half they were made to pay as Cross stepped on the gas a little. Oisin got clear of the shackles of Neasden captain Barry McDonagh from Sligo to pilfer a point from play. Four minutes later at his fifth attempt at a point, Martin Aherne found his range to make it double scores 4-2. Two minutes from the short whistle Aaron Kernan put a goal between the teams following good work by his captain, Paul McKeown. Goalkeeper Paul Hearty was very alert to save smartly from Friel to prevent a levelling score before Sligo referee Michael Duffy blew for half-time with Cross leading 0-5 to 0-2.
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Wind assisted Gaels began the second half like the first gaining an early advantage with Cross picking up a couple of yellow cards inside a minute. A foul on Carty gave him the opportunity to reduce the deficit and he duly obliged. The teams traded wides before Cross made a triple substitution with Stephen Kernan, Francie Bellew and Francis Hanratty coming in for Martin Aherne, Tony Kernan and hamstring victim Mickey McNamee. But this did not prevent the hosts from getting a grip on proceedings, even though an Oisin free had made it 6-3. Ten minutes into the second half another converted McConville free stretched the lead to four points and Rangers were expected to push on from there. Not so as Neasden responded with back to back points within a minute to put the outcome back in the melting pot. Carty pointed his third free before a first from play from Meathman Barry Comer to leave it 7-5, thirteen minutes into the second half. However, a first point from play was to prove to be the last score of the match for the eager hosts whose challenge evaporated over the closing ten minutes in each half. Not that it took a superb catch by Hearty as the ball sailed over the bar to deny three points in a row which would have cut the deficit to the minimum and surely spurred a tiring home team to find further inspiration.
With the goal at his mercy Johnny Hanratty was harshly deemed by Referee Duffy to have picked the ball off the ground and the opportunity went a begging. With the clock winding down a fifth point of the game for the majestic McConville, this time from play, gave the Rangers a goal cushion and extinguished the winning goal threat from Neasden as time evaporated. It was Rangers through substitute Francis Hanratty who should have notched the match winning goal but credit to goalkeeper Joe McNamara, another Galwayman, who effected a very good save. With the clock in overtime the same duo came face to face following a sweeping Cross move from one end of the field to the other. This time Franny left McNamara helpless as he bagged the insurance score for his team who were well relieved to put this game to bed and out of the way.
As outlined in the preview this was a no brainer for the Ulster champions, a comprehensive win would be of no benefit but the overall performance from Cross will leave management very angry. While Ruislip match winner Oisin will be focusing on his wedding on Friday, one thing is for sure that Tony and Gareth will be planning anything but a honeymoon for their charges as they prepare for a Feb 26 All-Ireland semi-final against Leinster winners Kilmacud or Rhode. Following their worst performance of the campaign to date there is an awful lot of work to be done if a St Patrick's Day trip to Croke Park is to be won.
Crossmaglen Rangers -P Hearty, B McKeown, P Kernan, J Morgan, P McKeown, D O Callaghan, A Kernan (0-2), D McKenna , J Hanratty, M Aherne (0-1), J McEntee , J Clarke, T Kernan, M McNamee, O McConville (0-5) Subs- S Kernan for Martin Aherne, F Bellew for T Kernan, F Hanratty (1-0) for M McNamee, S Finnegan for B McKeown.
Neasden Gaels — Joe McNamara, Cal O'Flynn , Keith Geraghty , Barry McDonagh Capt ; Phil McCone, Tony Gaughan , Barry Comer (0-1); Conor McGoldrick , Aidan Flanagan, John Scanlan, Paul Geraghty, J Raftery; David Carty (0-3), Peadar Friel (0-1), Stephen Lynch .
Ref-M Duffy (Sligo)