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Title: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: Bud Wiser on August 14, 2009, 02:15:30 PM
I see that Independent Newspapers, the ones who publish and print the GPA magazine have been using their influence as a promoter of all things good about the GPA.  Did you know for example that you can't get a job now unless you are in the GPA, well, according to Keith Barr anyway.  And there was I thinking that Keiths mates could get jobs with Telecoms companies (I know two that did) as sales reps back in 1983 simply because of their profile in the GAA before the GPA was even heard of.  Some even won seats in the Dail and got handy money on the back of the GAA but now that has all changed, your only hope of getting a job now is to join up and for Croke Park to give the GPA the gate receipts to fund their employment agency?

See full report here :  http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cash-cow-croker-must-give-back-1859797.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cash-cow-croker-must-give-back-1859797.html)
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: heffo on August 14, 2009, 02:32:15 PM
"It's time for the GAA to give something back to the boys who are making the shekels for them."

I hope Keith is referring to the 'rump of malcontents' who coach, nurture and put the players where they are - he is isn't he?

Though given his alleged annual 'package' demands to coach teams in Dublin, maybe he's not..
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: INDIANA on August 14, 2009, 02:41:19 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 14, 2009, 02:32:15 PM
"It's time for the GAA to give something back to the boys who are making the shekels for them."

I hope Keith is referring to the 'rump of malcontents' who coach, nurture and put the players where they are - he is isn't he?

Though given his alleged annual 'package' demands to coach teams in Dublin, maybe he's not..

You forgot to add Heffo- coaching teams "badly".
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: Bud Wiser on August 14, 2009, 02:46:10 PM
He done allright out of the GAA himself considering he is getting paid to write a full page in todays paper.
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: orangeman on August 14, 2009, 02:46:40 PM
Interesting take from Keith Barr. Obviously the Indo will say that he's only a pundit and is giving his personal point of view so can't be accused of anything.
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: EddieMerx on August 14, 2009, 02:49:06 PM
If the GPA ever got what they wanted I would never go to a match again! If the players are so desperate for payment they should just retire and take their chances at making it in Rugby or Soccer.
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: heffo on August 14, 2009, 02:57:51 PM
Quote from: EddieMerx on August 14, 2009, 02:49:06 PM
If the players are so desperate for payment they should just retire and take their chances at making it in Rugby or Soccer.

A soccer club in Tallaght (just up the road from Rovers ground) held U8 trials a few weeks ago around the time of the Rovers v Real game - on the back of this loads of kids turned up and tried out. At the end of the session the coaches thanked everyone for turning up and read out 14 names who they were keeping - the rest weren't up to the required standard - this club isn't even a big name in local soccer circles - the GPA and Soccer would be a marriage made in heaven - If you aren't going to be a saleable asset down the road, we're not going to waste our time with you..
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 14, 2009, 03:16:08 PM
I saw that article today. Don't like Keith Barr anyway so I just assumed it was a PR stunt...
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: cornafean on August 14, 2009, 03:28:31 PM
I rarely bother reading Barr's weekly column as I find it painful to read. Does he write it himself?  The "Cash Cow Croker" piece quoted reads like something that was dictated down a phone line. Its on the same level as the celebrity columns that you would see in the red-top tabloids
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: heffo on August 14, 2009, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: cornafean on August 14, 2009, 03:28:31 PM
I rarely bother reading Barr's weekly column as I find it painful to read. Does he write it himself?  The "Cash Cow Croker" piece quoted reads like something that was dictated down a phone line.

He does a phone interview with a well known Dublin Journalist/Sub-editor each week who has very close ties to two senior GPA figures - one of whom has a famous musician for a father..
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: Declan on August 14, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
QuoteAt the end of the session the coaches thanked everyone for turning up and read out 14 names who they were keeping - the rest weren't up to the required standard

This has always been more prevalent in soccer than Gaelic circles but unfortunately is a gathering trend in both. Sport for All me arse
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: heffo on August 14, 2009, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: Declan on August 14, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
QuoteAt the end of the session the coaches thanked everyone for turning up and read out 14 names who they were keeping - the rest weren't up to the required standard

This has always been more prevalent in soccer than Gaelic circles but unfortunately is a gathering trend in both. Sport for All me arse

As someone heavily involved in Juvenile football in Dublin, I've never heard of a single club holding trials and discarding weaker players..
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: EddieMerx on August 14, 2009, 03:57:11 PM
Quote from: Declan on August 14, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
QuoteAt the end of the session the coaches thanked everyone for turning up and read out 14 names who they were keeping - the rest weren't up to the required standard

This has always been more prevalent in soccer than Gaelic circles but unfortunately is a gathering trend in both. Sport for All me arse

I have also never heard of this, one thing that the grass roots is very good at is welcoming all
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: Billys Boots on August 14, 2009, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Declan on August 14, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
QuoteAt the end of the session the coaches thanked everyone for turning up and read out 14 names who they were keeping - the rest weren't up to the required standard

This has always been more prevalent in soccer than Gaelic circles but unfortunately is a gathering trend in both. Sport for All me arse

I'd agree Declan, there are clubs in both codes now that will only commit to coaching the cream, leaving the grassroots clubs (who are genuine 'sport for all' clubs) without the prospect of keeping their talent and winning competitions.  Appalling carry-on.
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: deiseach on August 14, 2009, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Keith BarrPlayers don't want to be paid

Keith Barr, I don't believe you. The sooner the GPA admits this is what they want, the better. The phoney war is getting tiresome
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: cornafean on August 14, 2009, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 14, 2009, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Keith BarrPlayers don't want to be paid

Keith Barr, I don't believe you. The sooner the GPA admits this is what they want, the better. The phoney war is getting tiresome

"Beware of whores who say they don't want money.
The hell they don't.
What they mean is they want more money. Much more"
William S. Burroughs
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: magpie seanie on August 15, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
Really that article doesn't deserve comment its so poor. A 5 year old would have a better grasp of the workings of the GAA than the person who wrote this. Poor stuff, lies and inconsistent.
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: Rossfan on August 15, 2009, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 15, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
Really that article doesn't deserve camment it so poor. A 5 year old would have a better grasp of the workings of the GAA than the person who wrote this. Poor stuff, lies and inconsistent.

It is Reillysrag after all  ::) and of course the GAA isnt a pro British organisation so anything goes.
Title: Re: Irish Independent and the GPA
Post by: midLouth on August 15, 2009, 04:39:10 PM
It is like bar stool conversation, in fact bar stool conversation would rate higher.