Have been uneasy about this for a while and wonder what other people think. Am really not trying to be offensive but does anyone else feel uneasy about the amount of buckets being left on supermarket counters and at big games etc for charities especially for cancer charities. Before anyone attacks here... an immediate member of my family died in Newry Hopice a few years ago and I have seen the devastation locally over the last number of years. It is just, who monitors the people who empty these buckets full of cash? what does the money actually be used for? etc. There must be millions collected. It seems so open to abuse and where there is unaccountable money...well, ...temptation? I saw a bucket recently just had 'cancer'wrote on it... Hopefully goes without saying I believe if all the money goes to cancer care it is tremendous but it seems so open to abuse...
After the scandal with the Helicopter for Ireland (or whatever it's called), you've every right to be wary of charity buckets.
I remember a good one at Belfast City centre during Ulster Says No rally and two wide boys from nationalsit part of West Belfast went in with buckets and 'loyalist prisoners' wrote on it. Got them filled and away..class... but nothing to stop folk doing same for very worthwhile charities
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 27, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
I remember a good one at Belfast City centre during Ulster Says No rally and two wide boys from nationalsit part of West Belfast went in with buckets and 'loyalist prisoners' wrote on it. Got them filled and away..class... but nothing to stop folk doing same for very worthwhile charities
lol. Cheeky bollix's but on a win-win situation.
If they were caught they make a hefty donation to the numptys, and if they weren't then its a new patio each.
There were a load of goons on the Falls Road last week in the middle of the road with "End Internment" on the buckets. IRSP I think it was.
I dont mind the people outside the shops with the buckets, its more the people who have taken to standing at roundabouts with puppydog eyes that annoy me
I don't mind the buckets on the counters, no one has to give anything to them, you can never be sure it actually goes to a charity but you can never be sure anyhow.
I went to our work canteen the other day and got lunch, I gave the woman a fiver and it came to something like 3.90 and just as she gave me my change she said 'we are doing a collection for cancer research (or something else) would you like to donate something'. I hadn't actually noticed but there was a collection thing beside the counter. There was a queue of people behind me and I didn't want to seem like a complete c^&t and say no so I just put my change in the thing, it wasn't the money at all but it annoyed me that she had put pressure to get the money from me in that way.
Quote from: full back on July 27, 2009, 12:32:49 PM
I dont mind the people outside the shops with the buckets, its more the people who have taken to standing at roundabouts with puppydog eyes that annoy me
Aye that pisses me off too. They are always collecting round the Mall and City Hotel traffic lights in Armagh. They generally just stand there and wait for someone to fire the money into the bucket as they pass, but this bollox collecting for Southern Area Hospice on Saturday came walking down to every car sitting at the lights and shook his bucket at the driver's window! You shouldn't begrudge having to give money to charity, but I did after that.
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 27, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
I don't mind the buckets on the counters, no one has to give anything to them, you can never be sure it actually goes to a charity but you can never be sure anyhow.
I went to our work canteen the other day and got lunch, I gave the woman a fiver and it came to something like 3.90 and just as she gave me my change she said 'we are doing a collection for cancer research (or something else) would you like to donate something'. I hadn't actually noticed but there was a collection thing beside the counter. There was a queue of people behind me and I didn't want to seem like a complete c^&t and say no so I just put my change in the thing, it wasn't the money at all but it annoyed me that she had put pressure to get the money from me in that way.
They're not supposed to do that. The time I was collecting, we were told that you're not allowed to ask or wiggle the box in anyone's direction. They have to make first contact.
Is it wrong that I lied one time about my age to get out of giving money to charity? I got a knock on the door and was well caught off guard. These 2 people starting telling me about this scheme for some charity (cant remember which one) and I was standing there as you do, feeling uncomfortable and wondering why the hell I opened the door as they where explaining the In's and outs of this charity. Anyway, it turned out that you had to set up a monthly debit with them and then my luck changed when they said you had to be 25 years of age to sign up. Well I'm over 25 but could pass for an under 25 so I told them, no i am only 23 to which i got a look of disgust I think because they had stood there explaining and it turned out i wasn't even the right age for the policy!!
I hate guilt trips and I can rarely say no to things like this so I was glad when there was a stipulation to participating!!
Im a cnut
Quote from: ziggysego on July 27, 2009, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 27, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
I don't mind the buckets on the counters, no one has to give anything to them, you can never be sure it actually goes to a charity but you can never be sure anyhow.
I went to our work canteen the other day and got lunch, I gave the woman a fiver and it came to something like 3.90 and just as she gave me my change she said 'we are doing a collection for cancer research (or something else) would you like to donate something'. I hadn't actually noticed but there was a collection thing beside the counter. There was a queue of people behind me and I didn't want to seem like a complete c^&t and say no so I just put my change in the thing, it wasn't the money at all but it annoyed me that she had put pressure to get the money from me in that way.
They're not supposed to do that. The time I was collecting, we were told that you're not allowed to ask or wiggle the box in anyone's direction. They have to make first contact.
That sounds wrong on so many levels!
Quote from: ziggysego on July 27, 2009, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 27, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
I don't mind the buckets on the counters, no one has to give anything to them, you can never be sure it actually goes to a charity but you can never be sure anyhow.
I went to our work canteen the other day and got lunch, I gave the woman a fiver and it came to something like 3.90 and just as she gave me my change she said 'we are doing a collection for cancer research (or something else) would you like to donate something'. I hadn't actually noticed but there was a collection thing beside the counter. There was a queue of people behind me and I didn't want to seem like a complete c^&t and say no so I just put my change in the thing, it wasn't the money at all but it annoyed me that she had put pressure to get the money from me in that way.
They're not supposed to do that. The time I was collecting, we were told that you're not allowed to ask or wiggle the box in anyone's direction. They have to make first contact.
Female prostitution ziggy,
Something to tell us..........................
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 27, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
I don't mind the buckets on the counters, no one has to give anything to them, you can never be sure it actually goes to a charity but you can never be sure anyhow.
I went to our work canteen the other day and got lunch, I gave the woman a fiver and it came to something like 3.90 and just as she gave me my change she said 'we are doing a collection for cancer research (or something else) would you like to donate something'. I hadn't actually noticed but there was a collection thing beside the counter. There was a queue of people behind me and I didn't want to seem like a complete c^&t and say no so I just put my change in the thing, it wasn't the money at all but it annoyed me that she had put pressure to get the money from me in that way.
Sucker! lol
Was driving through Achnacloy to Ulster final and this bald guy practically stood in front of the car and shouted with a bucket for the Carrickmore to Cork walk for charity. Is so in your face that behaviour and felt like driving over the top of him.
How do people feel about SARI collecting money at sporting events?
I am not sure who sari is.. ::)
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 27, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
I am not sure who sari is.. ::)
Sport against racism ireland.
I would give to it, as long as it wasn't a foreigner collecting for it.
Sari... I thought it was set up for a joke... like, who is sari?... :P
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 27, 2009, 03:41:42 PM
Sari... I thought it was set up for a joke... like, who is sari?... :P
I'm no Frank Carson...
Quote from: carribbear on July 27, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 27, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
I am not sure who sari is.. ::)
Sport against racism ireland.
I gave to them, I gave to a lot of bucket weilding charities - ataxia nervosa, cancer, Irish wheelchair association
But I agree that these buckets are quite possibly open to abuse.
I dislike the door to do types too that try to get you to sign up to various good causes - no way will I give my bank details out and have on occassion given a few quid to people collecting.
However a lot of the time more recently I say I have no money on me or that I am just broke - esp when the charity looks like it could be 'dodgy'
I never give or buy anything at the door. I won't have other people deciding what charities I'll give to. I can make up my own mind about that and do it myself without anyone asking me. I just tell them I don't give at the door.
And as for people coming to the door offering to sell me pictures or furniture or ornaments or whatever, do they not understand that I'd know myself if I wanted any of these things and would go and get them instead of sitting in the house wondering would someone bring them around to the door at random?
Quote from: SidelineKick on July 27, 2009, 03:41:24 PM
I would give to it, as long as it wasn't a foreigner collecting for it.
:D :D :D :D
Ziggy... what is that avator you have there? ???
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 27, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
Ziggy... what is that avator you have there? ???
That is Ziggy, the hybrid computer from the television series Quantum Leap. Not to be confused with the handlink.
I was thinking that ::)
fred the red didn't.
I tought it was a woman's two legs and like a suspender thing around the thighs and a funny shaped skirt... actually I was getting a bit excited :P
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 27, 2009, 05:28:06 PM
I tought it was a woman's two legs and like a suspender thing around the thighs and a funny shaped skirt... actually I was getting a bit excited :P
Happens as you get older.
:D
I'd maybe throw some change in to a bucket if it was on the shop counter or that but anything else, forget it.
Ive a friend who sponsors a child for a good few years now, my God what a con that is!
Ive a friend who sponsors a child for a good few years now, my God what a con that is!
Care to elaborate Pints, as i have often wondered about these schemes, and whether any has ever troubled to investigate them
Quote from: Pangurban on July 27, 2009, 11:46:57 PM
Ive a friend who sponsors a child for a good few years now, my God what a con that is!
Care to elaborate Pints, as i have often wondered about these schemes, and whether any has ever troubled to investigate them
Well all I know is there's a direct debit goes out of her account every month, no major amount, ten or 15 quid or something. And she gets letters and pictures from this child (yeah right). I'm pretty sure the child is from indonesia (supposedly), these letters she gets could be a page long but whatever chairty it is provides the translation which is only every about 2 lines. plus, the information keeps changing, liek the child could have one brother in one letter and 3 brothers in a letter a month later ::) ::) ::) :D :D
And she still gives them money!!!! It sounds very dodgy!
on the other hand, I know a fella and he sponsored a child also, was doing it for a couple of years and got a letter from the chairty saying the child had died, her friend had fallen down a well and the child he sponsored jumped in after the friend to try and save her :( :'(