With Donegal scraping past Clare, you would have to fancy Derry to win this quite comfortably. No disrespect to Donegal but was hoping for a tougher draw, someone that would give Derry a bit more of a test and galvanise them for a good run in the backdoor. Was hoping for Meath ...
Expect Derry to win this one. However, Mcguckian will not be back until the following week - so our backs will have to pull their socks up.
At least there will be a better travelling support from Derry, well i'd like to think so with the game being in Donegal. Can't remember his exact words but watched the game back there and Bradley made reference to the fact there was only a few souls that made the journey to Clones.
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
Quote from: glens73 on July 12, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
glens73 you are right. I think will Cassidy will have them well prepared as they still have a hard road ahead of them. However, you have some neck coming around here preaching to us - you would nearly think you where from Kerry or somewhere. Donegal next week and Antrim the following!
This is a no-brainer, Derry to win comfortably in second gear
Major Banana skin for Derry based on past performances directl after a big win.
The fact is Derry are not as good as they seemed yesterday but quite a bit better than they were against Tyrone.
I was at the Derry v Donegal league game when donegal were playing to avoid relegation and they were really poor against half a Derry team. But this is championship and traditionally Derry have rarely followed up a good game with another good game so I wouldnt be overly confident.
I do think we are a better side than Donegal. My prediction will be the same as that for the Monaghan game, if Derry have the heads right they will win comfortably....if not, it could well be a Donegal victory. I just hope the players dont get too carried away with themselves after beating a mediocre Monaghan side.
Will this be in Letterkenney or Ballybofey?
Quote from: Oakleafer1993 on July 12, 2009, 07:34:33 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 12, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
glens73 you are right. I think will Cassidy will have them well prepared as they still have a hard road ahead of them. However, you have some neck coming around here preaching to us - you would nearly think you where from Kerry or somewhere. Donegal next week and Antrim the following!
My Ma is from South Derry and I followed them for years when I used to live back home, so I'm not preaching. I'm just stating that Derry frequently go and let themselves down when everyone thinks they're genuine contenders.
Quote from: glens73 on July 12, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
Good shout ... Derry as hot favourites is always 'squeaky bum time'
This will be a comfortable will for Derry. Derry are simply a better team and this Donegal team are lacking the passion and commitment that would give even a small chance of a surprise win.
The game will be in Ballybofey.
Donegal to be put to the sword.
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 12, 2009, 07:27:15 PM
At least there will be a better travelling support from Derry, well i'd like to think so with the game being in Donegal.
Will they take the car to Donegal instead of the motorbike?
As said before, a potential banana skin, Donegal have discipline problems yes, but also a good batch of talented fudballers. So if they click, and Derry have a bit of an off day, this game could go anyway. I've Donegal blood, so was hoping to avoid Donegal, but happy enough as its a lot less derv than heading til Killarney etc
Just glad to be through round 2, the walk to the car yesterday evening was a lot sweeter than this time last year when our summer, championship wise ended without any hunger
Donegal now have an issue regarding Karl Lacy: Skinner or Paddy?
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 11:50:18 PM
Who to play on Paddy and Eoin? To have 1 man marking the two of them would be an improvement on Monaghan's defensive tactics. Donegal need to look at what Tyrone did in Casement. Have men who stick up their holes (literally). Their half back line have to read the game too. If they see a long ball going into them, pile in on top of the Bradleys. Look at the second goal yesterday. That, for me, showed everything that was wrong with Monaghan's defence. How can you let a danger man get free like that and take an easy catch, yards from goal? Pathetic defending. Paddy Bradley also got a point in the second half where the ball was kicked 50 yards and a Derry player caught it, in round his stomach, with 3 Monaghan players around him, just ball watching. Handed it to Bradley, straight over. I'd have taken all 3 off right away. Hadn't a clue. The first goal isn't worth comment. The third, although it looked good, Jesus Christ!! Paddy and Eoin are unreal when given space. Don't give them space and they can be shackled. Of course there will be an arguement that they make their own space. I don't really buy that. Their men have to stick to them even if it hampers their own game. You are a defender. Defend.
There's absolutely no way that they'll get that sort of space with Donegal. Derry will need to be on top form for this one. As I said somewhere else earlier, it's a long time since we won two games in a row in the championship. Donegal have improved since the Antrim game just as Derry have from the Tyrone game. I remember Spillane backing us in the past and it was always the kiss of death. Hopefully it won't be this time. Derry need to learn to handle the favourites tag.
It will be interesting to see what way Cassidy lines the team out next weekend. Whilst the attack has improved since the Tyrone match we wont go to far conceding as much as we did on Saturday. If we get past Donegal we will have McGuckin back but one of the factors that needs to be looked at is that Monaghan where able to deliver the ball into the full forward line completly unchallenged on far to many occasions.
Quote from: thebuzz on July 13, 2009, 10:51:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 11:50:18 PM
Who to play on Paddy and Eoin? To have 1 man marking the two of them would be an improvement on Monaghan's defensive tactics. Donegal need to look at what Tyrone did in Casement. Have men who stick up their holes (literally). Their half back line have to read the game too. If they see a long ball going into them, pile in on top of the Bradleys. Look at the second goal yesterday. That, for me, showed everything that was wrong with Monaghan's defence. How can you let a danger man get free like that and take an easy catch, yards from goal? Pathetic defending. Paddy Bradley also got a point in the second half where the ball was kicked 50 yards and a Derry player caught it, in round his stomach, with 3 Monaghan players around him, just ball watching. Handed it to Bradley, straight over. I'd have taken all 3 off right away. Hadn't a clue. The first goal isn't worth comment. The third, although it looked good, Jesus Christ!! Paddy and Eoin are unreal when given space. Don't give them space and they can be shackled. Of course there will be an arguement that they make their own space. I don't really buy that. Their men have to stick to them even if it hampers their own game. You are a defender. Defend.
There's absolutely no way that they'll get that sort of space with Donegal. Derry will need to be on top form for this one. As I said somewhere else earlier, it's a long time since we won two games in a row in the championship. Donegal have improved since the Antrim game just as Derry have from the Tyrone game. I remember Spillane backing us in the past and it was always the kiss of death. Hopefully it won't be this time. Derry need to learn to handle the favourites tag.
You haven't really been following Donegal have you? Donegal have played at a similar poor level since the Antrim game. A terrible performance against Carlow was followed up by another lifeless victory against Clare. It is only because of a few soft draws that we are still hanging around at all.
Whilst I can understand that Derry people might be uncomfortable with being classed as raging hot favourites, I'm afraid you are just that. Derry will easily overcome Donegal and all I can hope for is that it spurs the GAA community at large in Donegal to raise up and demand better from our Board.
Yep, Donegal are, simply put, a shambles.
I'll be amazed if we are within 6pts come the final whistle on Saturday.
The only saving grace is that we are at home, I shudder to think what the result would have been if we had been drawn away to Kerry as looked possible at one stage.
The other question is will Cassidy have a plan B in case Donegal do like Tyrone and just drop a man back in front of Paddy?
To beat Derry based on the last day you have to ...
1. Break even at midfield - this is very possible. While Derry have good midfielders I think Donegal should be able to break even
2. Stop Mark Lynch running and feeding Eoin Bradley. Lynch was one of the key factors against Monaghan - how often did scores start with him?
3. Man-Mark Eoin Bradley like you're in love with him and force him to kick erratically - because he will do 2 things (a) Shoot (b) Look for Paddy
4. Drop an extra man back in front of Paddy Bradley
If Donegal do that at all they'll be in with a decent shout as the Derry FB line wasn't watertight the last day
derry will win this game by at least ten points. Donegal a joke at the minute
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 13, 2009, 04:21:48 PM
derry will win this game by at least ten points. Donegal a joke at the minute
thats a joke
Donegal have huge talent but are a disciplinary mess.
However they are spirited and will never go down without a fight, you can guarantee that.
If they hit form and Derry have a bad day then I'd not rule out a Donegal win - the form book suggests that its a Derry victory but
with these two teams I have often seen the form book ripped up, thrown out the window , go on fire and have its ashes stamped on !
On all known form Derry should win this handy. That is the exact type of situation that Derry supporters are used to the team shitting in the nest. We will be favorites but it will come down to the players attitude on the day. Confidence should be high but we need to dominate midfield again which I think is possible.
McCloy might actually suit Murphy but you would hope that the full back line in general will be better protected than against Monaghan.
This is all set up for a Donegal win. They really have nothing to lose as they are being totally written off and Derry dont play the favourites role very well.
Quote from: JMohan on July 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
The other question is will Cassidy have a plan B in case Donegal do like Tyrone and just drop a man back in front of Paddy?
To beat Derry based on the last day you have to ...
1. Break even at midfield - this is very possible. While Derry have good midfielders I think Donegal should be able to break even
2. Stop Mark Lynch running and feeding Eoin Bradley. Lynch was one of the key factors against Monaghan - how often did scores start with him?
3. Man-Mark Eoin Bradley like you're in love with him and force him to kick erratically - because he will do 2 things (a) Shoot (b) Look for Paddy
4. Drop an extra man back in front of Paddy Bradley
If Donegal do that at all they'll be in with a decent shout as the Derry FB line wasn't watertight the last day
why do people keep saying this. Look at Derry's 2nd goal on sat, 5 or 6 yards out, all be it a tight angle, he squared to Kielt for a tap in, great team play. Whilst he is far from the complete player, he is getting there, and as a Derry fan, i would rather cheer for him as against him.
This game will be over at half-time. Derry'll cruise.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 13, 2009, 11:58:12 PM
Quote from: JMohan on July 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
The other question is will Cassidy have a plan B in case Donegal do like Tyrone and just drop a man back in front of Paddy?
To beat Derry based on the last day you have to ...
1. Break even at midfield - this is very possible. While Derry have good midfielders I think Donegal should be able to break even
2. Stop Mark Lynch running and feeding Eoin Bradley. Lynch was one of the key factors against Monaghan - how often did scores start with him?
3. Man-Mark Eoin Bradley like you're in love with him and force him to kick erratically - because he will do 2 things (a) Shoot (b) Look for Paddy
4. Drop an extra man back in front of Paddy Bradley
If Donegal do that at all they'll be in with a decent shout as the Derry FB line wasn't watertight the last day
why do people keep saying this. Look at Derry's 2nd goal on sat, 5 or 6 yards out, all be it a tight angle, he squared to Kielt for a tap in, great team play. Whilst he is far from the complete player, he is getting there, and as a Derry fan, i would rather cheer for him as against him.
This type of thing annoys me too...I dont think any player deliberately tries to always find another player....I think the more likely reason for this perceived constant play between the two brothers is that when one of them is in a postiion to pass or kick the ball in the player most likely to be in a position to receive that pass or most likely to score is usually the other brother. What is the difference between this and say Clarke and McDonnell, or Gooch and Donaghy or Canavan and Mugsy. It just so happens our 2 best forwards are brothers. Good luck to them and long may it last that they are in the form they were on Saturday past.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 13, 2009, 11:58:12 PM
Quote from: JMohan on July 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
The other question is will Cassidy have a plan B in case Donegal do like Tyrone and just drop a man back in front of Paddy?
To beat Derry based on the last day you have to ...
1. Break even at midfield - this is very possible. While Derry have good midfielders I think Donegal should be able to break even
2. Stop Mark Lynch running and feeding Eoin Bradley. Lynch was one of the key factors against Monaghan - how often did scores start with him?
3. Man-Mark Eoin Bradley like you're in love with him and force him to kick erratically - because he will do 2 things (a) Shoot (b) Look for Paddy
4. Drop an extra man back in front of Paddy Bradley
If Donegal do that at all they'll be in with a decent shout as the Derry FB line wasn't watertight the last day
why do people keep saying this. Look at Derry's 2nd goal on sat, 5 or 6 yards out, all be it a tight angle, he squared to Kielt for a tap in, great team play. Whilst he is far from the complete player, he is getting there, and as a Derry fan, i would rather cheer for him as against him.
It's not criticism at all - I was saying that if you force him under pressure that's the two options or two outcomes he'll most likely take.
But again I don't think that will happen as I don't honestly think there is a back in the country can mark him.
I actually think Eoin Bradley is a far more dangerous forward than his brother - and if you look at the number of assists he gave you'd agree.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 14, 2009, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 13, 2009, 11:58:12 PM
Quote from: JMohan on July 13, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
The other question is will Cassidy have a plan B in case Donegal do like Tyrone and just drop a man back in front of Paddy?
To beat Derry based on the last day you have to ...
1. Break even at midfield - this is very possible. While Derry have good midfielders I think Donegal should be able to break even
2. Stop Mark Lynch running and feeding Eoin Bradley. Lynch was one of the key factors against Monaghan - how often did scores start with him?
3. Man-Mark Eoin Bradley like you're in love with him and force him to kick erratically - because he will do 2 things (a) Shoot (b) Look for Paddy
4. Drop an extra man back in front of Paddy Bradley
If Donegal do that at all they'll be in with a decent shout as the Derry FB line wasn't watertight the last day
why do people keep saying this. Look at Derry's 2nd goal on sat, 5 or 6 yards out, all be it a tight angle, he squared to Kielt for a tap in, great team play. Whilst he is far from the complete player, he is getting there, and as a Derry fan, i would rather cheer for him as against him.
This type of thing annoys me too...I dont think any player deliberately tries to always find another player....I think the more likely reason for this perceived constant play between the two brothers is that when one of them is in a postiion to pass or kick the ball in the player most likely to be in a position to receive that pass or most likely to score is usually the other brother. What is the difference between this and say Clarke and McDonnell, or Gooch and Donaghy or Canavan and Mugsy. It just so happens our 2 best forwards are brothers. Good luck to them and long may it last that they are in the form they were on Saturday past.
On him being the complete player - I don't think he's far from being the complete forward.
Fastest player in the country arguably
Very strong - never brushed off the ball
Good a shooting from distance
Special 'eye' for a goal
Can't be marked out of a game?
Did you watch the tyrone game...
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 14, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Did you watch the tyrone game...
To be fair PB was injured that day.
And Ryan McMenamin floundering after him?
Breaking through the Tyrone defence to blaze a ball marginally over the bar?
Scoring 4 points out of 7? ......... While starved of posession?
Sinking one free and a 45?
When no other Derry man apart from O'Kane and Diver were playing near potential?
Yes, saw it.
With guys like that it's not about one on one. I don't think he'd have done much more damage that day had he been fit.
You mark the space on front of these boys and then when they get it you swarm them. If they make space of one boy you get another boy in the space he goes into so he can't geta shot off.
Easier said than done I know but if you have the right players it's a system that can work. Tyrone have those players.
The key is you never let forwards like that get isolated.
I'm talking about Eoin - you're on about Paddy?
I am actually. Sorry should read better...
To be honest my thinking still applies... The right system will play him out of it.
McMenamim's man marking ability is nowhere near what it used to be. He's a much better HB now. In 2003 ok but now he's better in the half back line.
Darren O'Sullivan is much quicker.
Can't agree with that
One scored 2-8 and the other set up most of them. That's what I call double trouble.
Following their 3 point win over Clare last Saturday, Donegal Senior footballers have been drawn at home again for their 3rd Round Qualifying game against Derry next Saturday in McCumhaill Park.
We would encourage as many people as possible to come and give their support to the team in this vital game. Please note the throw in time is 7.00 pm. No Tickets are required for this game. Entry will be gained by paying at the turnstiles.
Entry to the Stand from the main street is via the Archway beside the Villa Rose Hotel and from laneway beside Jacksons Hotel on the Glenties Road.
Admission Fees
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Students must produce valid I.D.
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Happy enough for people on here to write Donegal off.
As Mike S says we have nothing to lose, and you'd be an idiot to say that there isn't alot of talent in the Donegal team.
Certainly have played poorly so far, but one good performance and an off form (or well marked) PB and you never know - remember that no one gave Antrim a chance in the first game.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 15, 2009, 12:54:06 PM
Happy enough for people on here to write Donegal off.
As Mike S says we have nothing to lose, and you'd be an idiot to say that there isn't alot of talent in the Donegal team.
Certainly have played poorly so far, but one good performance and an off form (or well marked) PB and you never know - remember that no one gave Antrim a chance in the first game.
I'd never write Donegal off, on their day they can beat tyrone and kerry and on other days they could even lose to kilkenny or carlow - they are just that mad.
They will undoubtedly raise their game to play Derry - who are not the most consistent team themselves at the moment either !
This one definitely not on TV?
Yes and no.
Yes, it is definitely not on live tv
No, it is not going to be televised live.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 15, 2009, 12:54:06 PM
Happy enough for people on here to write Donegal off.
As Mike S says we have nothing to lose, and you'd be an idiot to say that there isn't alot of talent in the Donegal team.
Certainly have played poorly so far, but one good performance and an off form (or well marked) PB and you never know - remember that no one gave Antrim a chance in the first game.
There definitely isn't much optimism about at home. Anyone I spoke to reckoned they'd be surprised if we finish within five or six points of Derry, and I'd feel the same way myself, even more so now that Toye, one of the few bright spots of the past few games, is gone for the season (and BTW there was hardly a word about his bad injury in the media). The only hope is that they sort their issues (whatever they are that is causing the poor morale) out this week and go out and show a bit of guts and leadership and belief in each other. Not holding my breath though!
J70 what is the issue with Donegal - is it John joe? has he not got the support of the players?
Quote from: Oakleafer1993 on July 15, 2009, 10:17:57 PM
J70 what is the issue with Donegal - is it John joe? has he not got the support of the players?
Not sure. Tom Comack wrote a piece in the Democrat this week speculating about what might be going on. He thought it might be lingering discontent with the way McIvor was shafted, as well as the banishment of Neil Gallagher, to name two possible issues that might be affecting some players. Also, simple loss of confidence and leadership in the aftermath of relegation and the defeat to Antrim. He also said however that the players had been relatively spoiled over the past seven or eight years in that they had All Ireland winning managers/coaches in charge of them during that entire period, whereas now John Joe and his selectors, while all AI-winning players, are novices when it comes to national level management, so perhaps there is a lack of belief in them.
Who is Tom Cormack?
a tough enough draw for us. i know donegal aren't playing well and have a few problems, but there's always a good performance in them. from a derry point of view, if the heads are right and there is no complacency i think we should win by about 4 or 5 points.
defence needs to tighten up, particularly mccloy as he allows his man far too much of a start on him and hasn't got the pace to recover. i would continue with bradley and diver in midfield with fergal roving as it worked well the last day.
the worry is we never get as much space in an intercounty game again as we did last sat, hopefully that wont affect the players approach and we'll have early direct ball going in with plenty of runners of the shoulder unlike the tyrone game. this is why gerard o kane has to play in the half back line imo, if he's in the corner we'll lose out on running his support play.
the big question is can we put 2 good perfromances together, we havent done so since mayo at celtic park and laois in breffni in 07, so its time for that to change.
no doubt who ever wins this will draw antrim in the last 12 and tyrone in the last 8 ::) ::)
J70 I do remember at the time of McIvor dismissal, Cass spoke (as spokesman on behalf of the players) to give their backing to McIvor, I think that there is still a lingering resentment in thte camp about how things were handled and the subsequent outcomes.
Quote from: Winnie Peg on July 16, 2009, 10:10:46 AM
Who is Tom Cormack?
Its "Comack".
He's a GAA journalist for the Donegal Democrat and Highland Radio. He's actually a Roscommon man, but lives in the Rosses these days, as far as I know.
Quote from: J70 on July 16, 2009, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on July 16, 2009, 10:10:46 AM
Who is Tom Cormack?
Its "Comack".
He's a GAA journalist for the Donegal Democrat and Highland Radio. He's actually a Roscommon man, but lives in the Rosses these days, as far as I know.
He's actually quite a good analyst and interviewer; much better than Charlie Collins, his somewhat narrow sighted colleague!
donegal will win leo mcloone will score 4-10 and win us the game
Donegal team to play Derry tomorrow evening in Round 3 of the All Ireland Qualifiers has been announced. It shows just one change in personnel from that which started last time out against Clare, Brian Roper comes in to replace the injured Christy Toye.
No.
1 Pol Ó Durcain Paul Durcan Na Ceithre Máistrí
2 Prionsias MagFhlionn Frank Mc Glynn Gleann Fhinne
3 Niall Mac Aoidh Neil McGee Gaoth Dobhair
4 Carl De Léis Karl Lacey Na Ceithre Máistrí
5 Barra Ó Dúinín Barry Dunnion Na Ceithre Máistrí
6 Barra Ó Manacháin Barry Monaghan Na Ceithre Máistrí
7 Éamonn Mac Aoidh Eamon Mc Gee Gaoth Dobhair
8 Leon Mac GiollaEoin Leo McLoone Naomh Conaill
9 Caoimhín Ó Caisside Kevin Cassidy Gaoth Dobhair
10 RuairíOCaomhanach RoryKavanagh (C) Naomh Adhamhnáin
11 Brian O Roipear Brian Roper Aodh Ruadh (B/S)
12 Daithí Breathnach David Walsh Naomh Bríd
13 Conall Ó Dúinn Conal Dunne Naomh Adhamhnáin
14 Micheal O Murchú Micheal Murphy Gleann tSúilí
15 Colm Mac Phaidin Colm McFadden Naomh Micheal
Thats a strong Donegal side with some serious talent in there.
I dont for a minute expect and easy game but I think we should still shade it.
Someone told me the throw in for this game has been changed till 4pm.
I cant find any confirmation of this but has anyone else heard this?
Definitely at 7pm
Anyone hear the Derry team?
Quote from: laoisgaa on July 17, 2009, 11:08:10 PM
Definitely at 7pm
Anyone hear the Derry team?
Maybe Cass will do a Loughnane and pick the team in the pre-match huddle.
Quote from: tyrone86 on July 18, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
Quote from: laoisgaa on July 17, 2009, 11:08:10 PM
Definitely at 7pm
Anyone hear the Derry team?
Maybe Cass will do a Loughnane and pick the team in the pre-match huddle.
the team was selected tonight and will be named tomorrow
Any links for overseas viewers lads?
It's not live on TV but you'll get an audio commentary at www.highlandradio.com from 7pm
Quote from: laoisgaa on July 18, 2009, 12:01:21 PM
It's not live on TV but you'll get an audio commentary at www.highlandradio.com from 7pm
And I'd recommend Highland sheerly for comedic value and completely biased commentary.
Quote from: tyrone86 on July 18, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: laoisgaa on July 18, 2009, 12:01:21 PM
It's not live on TV but you'll get an audio commentary at www.highlandradio.com from 7pm
And I'd recommend Highland sheerly for comedic value and completely biased commentary.
Its a Donegal station with Donegal commenators broadcasting for Donegal listeners. Why wouldn't they root for Donegal? That doesn't mean they're blinkered or that they spare the team criticism (which they most certainly do not). Tyrone (justifiably) are actually highly lauded on the station.
And of course local radio in Tyrone is the epitome of cosmopolitan, detached professionalism!
Lets hope we get another good performance from the forwards today and the defence tightens up a bit. Should be a 5/6 point win if we're anyway serious but we know derry don't operate like that. Hope to see a decent derry support at the game. Doire abu!
http://links.pollenzone.com/highlandradio.asx
McCloy off - Poor show so far
i assume you mean red card and not subbed??
Sorry - I mean subbed
Quote from: glens73 on July 12, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
Are Derry going to flop again?
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2009, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 12, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
Are Derry going to flop again?
Certainly 5pts down - and it isn't lookin good. Typical Derry
Diver and Mullan taken off now
P Bradley off injured
Quote from: Estimator on July 18, 2009, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2009, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 12, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Derry at a canter.
Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.
Are Derry going to flop again?
Certainly 5pts down - and it isn't lookin good. Typical Derry
Extra time - could still do it yet
yes ! by f**k it's nervewracking listening to the radio.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 18, 2009, 08:34:32 PM
yes ! by f**k it's nervewracking listening to the radio.
particularly when highland radio keeps jumping, after stalling for about 3 minutes it came back just in time for me to hear mckaigue equalise!
1341 MW radio ulster perfect
Did Donegal just score a goal ? According to BBC website they did.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/default.stm
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I'm listening on Highland (the epitome of impartial broadcasting as already mentioned by other posters!) but is SM Lockhart getting as badly roasted as they're letting on???
Also, am I the only Tyrone supporter backing Derry? Despise Donegal!!!
yes , Kevin Cassidy hit the net, two up for Donegal
Fck sake..
How many stupid frees are Derry going to give away?
Far more nerve racking listening on the radio than watching on the tv.
Donegal 2 up, tough for Derry now - h/t in e/t
Oisin just said Donegal well on top and should be out of sight and it's theirs to lose. Not looking good!
RTE radio are carrying the extra time live.
My sympathy to all those nerve wrecked fans with knots for stomachs.
who is doing the comentary on radio Ulster?
It's all Donegal, 2 up now.
7 wides in ET from Donegal
Quote from: Siggy on July 18, 2009, 09:02:24 PM
7 wides in ET from Donegal
Where did this performance come from ?
Time nearly up ?
1 in it in injury time
feck me its wide
fecking commenator said Lynch has scored and he put it wide
Donegal by a whisker.
balls!, Derry blow it again
Well that was a turn up for the books!
Disgusted - Can't believe that.
must admit I enjoyed that commentery, he made it very exciting, who was it?
Quote from: balladmaker on July 18, 2009, 09:05:42 PM
Well that was a turn up for the books!
Not really, people get carried away when Derry put inone good performance.
Same old Derry unfortunately. Donegal much the better team by the sounds of it
hope Antrim get donegal in the quarter finals (should we beat Tyrone) McHugh was waffling on that we will get Antrim in the qualifiers and Donegal will progress to the quarter finals. what an Asshole
Typical Derry.......................
Huge shock for Derry to be beat by Donegal. But that is football.
More shocks tomorrow maybe ?.
Unbelievable! Fair fcuks to the lads - no one had much faith in them, including myself. Thought we'd kicked it away as we did against Antrim. Sounded like Lacey was back to his very best, marking Bradley out of it before he went off. Rory Kavanagh had a fine game too from the sound of things. And once again Derry can't put two performances together! Always nice to beat the neighbours!
After McHugh calling for the players' retirement after the Antrim game, its all about the players' belief in themselves now!!!! Asshole is right!!
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2009, 09:07:39 PM
Huge shock for Derry to be beat by Donegal. But that is football.
More shocks tomorrow maybe ?.
I'd disagree, Donegal were at home. What have Derry done in the championship of note, this past few years??
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2009, 09:07:39 PM
Huge shock for Derry to be beat by Donegal. But that is football.
More shocks tomorrow maybe ?.
Not really a shock to Derry people - it's par for the course! One great performance, one poor performance!
Great result for Donegal! The corner turned perhaps?
Quote from: glens73 on July 18, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2009, 09:07:39 PM
Huge shock for Derry to be beat by Donegal. But that is football.
More shocks tomorrow maybe ?.
I'd disagree, Donegal were at home. What have Derry done in the championship of note, this past few years??
Well for one, they beat Donegal the last time they played away.
This is a shock, maybe not a big one for Derry fans but a shock nonetheless.
Oisin brought up the Ballinderry affair a number of times on the commentary
Quote from: KT on July 18, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
After McHugh calling for the players' retirement after the Antrim game, its all about the players' belief in themselves now!!!! Asshole is right!!
Every bit of criticism the Donegal players have received was justified. Tonight's performance does not excuse the awful, passionless muck they'd served up in the previous games.
What a sickener after having pulled it back in normal time.
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: KT on July 18, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
After McHugh calling for the players' retirement after the Antrim game, its all about the players' belief in themselves now!!!! Asshole is right!!
Every bit of criticism the Donegal players have received was justified. Tonight's performance does not excuse the awful, passionless muck they'd served up in the previous games.
Telling some players they should retire after one inept game is madness though and they have turned it around and are now one of the last Ulster teams left in this years all-ireland.
Not a huge shock, but a shock all the same. Big win by Donegal, didn't expect that myself. Same aul story with Derry as has been said, can't put two big performances back to back, I kinda knew it would be like that but still thought they'd win this. Well done to the Donegal men though, not taking anything away from them, sounds like a great performance.
Absoltely delighted, not just for Donegal, but glad to see Derry beat, especially those to hateful hoors, the bradleys.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 18, 2009, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: KT on July 18, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
After McHugh calling for the players' retirement after the Antrim game, its all about the players' belief in themselves now!!!! Asshole is right!!
Every bit of criticism the Donegal players have received was justified. Tonight's performance does not excuse the awful, passionless muck they'd served up in the previous games.
Telling some players they should retire after one inept game is madness though and they have turned it around and are now one of the last Ulster teams left in this years all-ireland.
We're still there by the luck of the draw. A half-decent side would have finished us in the last two games, as Antrim did. The lads have partially redeemed themselves tonight, but now they have to remember the mistakes of the past and not lose the run of themselves after winning one big match. Not that there should be much chance of that - no weak teams left now.
Be good reading for a week or two on the Derry club thread after this :D
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 18, 2009, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: KT on July 18, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
After McHugh calling for the players' retirement after the Antrim game, its all about the players' belief in themselves now!!!! Asshole is right!!
Every bit of criticism the Donegal players have received was justified. Tonight's performance does not excuse the awful, passionless muck they'd served up in the previous games.
Telling some players they should retire after one inept game is madness though and they have turned it around and are now one of the last Ulster teams left in this years all-ireland.
McHugh advising you to step down is becoming a sign of good luck. Didn't he advise a certain Mick Harte to step down last year aftr Tyrone's defeat to Down.
Donegal' ll probably win the All Ireland this year.
:o
In other words, McHugh is a muppet.
Donegal players will be on the rip for a week !!!
See what happens when Spillane actually likes the way you play ;)
Absolutely gutted at this result. Fk i wish derry were more consistant
Just in the door, dissapointed but I cant say completly surprised. A lot of people had wrote Donegal off but there was a big match in them somewhere along the line and they gave it everything tonight. Typical Derry and cant string two good performaces together. I thought we where stuffed when down by 5 and Bradley off but the players showed real guts to come back and take it to extra time. If Donegal had lost with the amount of chances they missed in extra time then McFadden would have been a very sorry boy, shooting from ridiculous positions when others where better placed. That said the ref bottled it with the last kick of the game when he should have given a free in. There is something wrong at the heart of football in Derry.
something wrong at the heart of football in Derry.
Nail on the head!
I forgot to add. Best of luck to Donegal for the rest of the championship. With a favourable draw next week there is no reason why they cant male the quarter finals with an underdogs chance of making the semi finals. Murphy will be the foundations of the team for a long time to come.
How can Derry, who looked magnificient last week, and according to the Saturday Game analysts were "back in the All Ireland mix" get beaten by
a side who barely struggled past the football super powers of Carlow & Clare? It really defies logic ???
I told ye it was all set up for a Donegal win.
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
How can Derry, who looked magnificient last week, and according to the Saturday Game analysts were "back in the All Ireland mix" get beaten by
a side who barely struggled past the football super powers of Carlow & Clare? It really defies logic ???
Thats football for you, it also shows how poor Monaghan really are, but I have said it before and I will say it again, Derry are spineless.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 18, 2009, 09:23:43 PM
In other words, McHugh is a muppet.
aye and he used to go on and on about how Tyrone wouldnt win as All Irealnd without Peter Canavan like it was a jewel of wisdom...of of course it was dung.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on July 18, 2009, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
How can Derry, who looked magnificient last week, and according to the Saturday Game analysts were "back in the All Ireland mix" get beaten by
a side who barely struggled past the football super powers of Carlow & Clare? It really defies logic ???
Thats football for you, it also shows how poor Monaghan really are, but I have said it before and I will say it again, Derry are spineless.
Whilst im very dissapointed if not surprised we where beat that comment is uninformed. They trailed by 5 points with 15 minutes left and showed a lot of character to force it to extra time.
Dont agree about the spineless either oakleaf, but theres an awful amount of pressure on any new manager to take Derry to the
promised land this last few years. In your opinion has Cassidy done any better than Paddy Crozier, so far?
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
How can Derry, who looked magnificient last week, and according to the Saturday Game analysts were "back in the All Ireland mix" get beaten by
a side who barely struggled past the football super powers of Carlow & Clare? It really defies logic ???
Its the lottery of the qualifiers, very difficult to beat two strong teams in the space of a week. The auld cliché about getting good tough challenges every week to build momentum is a load of bollocks, you should be hoping for the handiest teams possible every time.
Some of you lads take the pundits a wee bit too seriously, whether its McHugh or Brolly or Spillane.
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 10:24:26 PM
Some of you lads take the pundits a wee bit too seriously, whether its McHugh or Brolly or Spillane.
I don't think anyone takes McHugh too seriously
Nothing to do with the pundits J70, recent results were speaking for themselves. You were writing Donegal off yourself earlier in the
week :'(
Great result though, congratulations & all the best for the rest of the Championship.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 18, 2009, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 10:24:26 PM
Some of you lads take the pundits a wee bit too seriously, whether its McHugh or Brolly or Spillane.
I don't think anyone takes McHugh too seriously
Yet you're all sore about some perceived slight he levelled at your county, and the same will go for Spllane and Brolly after the Sunday Game.
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 10:28:03 PM
Nothing to do with the pundits J70, recent results were speaking for themselves. You were writing Donegal off yourself earlier in the
week :'(
Great result though, congratulations & all the best for the rest of the Championship.
Wasn't referring to what any pundit said - just that some of the lads here seem to get awful offended by their opinions.
Dunno why anyone should get offended, sure theyre only trying to do a job. Suppose you cant
please everyone :'(
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 10:24:26 PM
Some of you lads take the pundits a wee bit too seriously, whether its McHugh or Brolly or Spillane.
Aye, the Derry players, 1-15 :D
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 10:22:52 PM
Dont agree about the spineless either oakleaf, but theres an awful amount of pressure on any new manager to take Derry to the
promised land this last few years. In your opinion has Cassidy done any better than Paddy Crozier, so far?
To be brutally honest about it. Some Derry supporters are deluded about the percieved ability of out footballers. At the minute Tyrone are the bench mark and the best way I can measure Derry against them is by looking at which of our players Mickey Harte would pick in his squad. I can only come up with the following G O'Kane, F Doherty, M Lynch, and the two Bradleys. Out of those only 2 would strengthen the Tyrone team. The players just are coming through. St Pats arent the force they where and the almost annual internal disputes dont help much. But the biggest problem is that in Derry the county team is secondary to the clubs.
Coming back to your question then I would have to say we are no further forward under Cassidy even if there are some encouraging signs there. It very hard for anyone man to change a mindset over night but its to early to say if in the long term Cassidy can manage that.
Didn't see that coming at all. Derry must be very frustrating to support, and manage.
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 18, 2009, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 10:22:52 PM
Dont agree about the spineless either oakleaf, but theres an awful amount of pressure on any new manager to take Derry to the
promised land this last few years. In your opinion has Cassidy done any better than Paddy Crozier, so far?
To be brutally honest about it. Some Derry supporters are deluded about the percieved ability of out footballers. At the minute Tyrone are the bench mark and the best way I can measure Derry against them is by looking at which of our players Mickey Harte would pick in his squad. I can only come up with the following G O'Kane, F Doherty, M Lynch, and the two Bradleys. Out of those only 2 would strengthen the Tyrone team. The players just are coming through. St Pats arent the force they where and the almost annual internal disputes dont help much. But the biggest problem is that in Derry the county team is secondary to the clubs.
Coming back to your question then I would have to say we are no further forward under Cassidy even if there are some encouraging signs there. It very hard for anyone man to change a mindset over night but its to early to say if in the long term Cassidy can manage that.
Would take big Enda as well!! The thing is with Mickey Harte, he may not have the 30 best players in Tyrone on the panel, but what he does have is the 30 best
workrate wise, and 30 who will stick rigidly to a system. I have my reservations about whether the two Bradleys would fit that bill. Fergal Doc certainly would I think.
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 10:49:14 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 18, 2009, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 10:22:52 PM
Dont agree about the spineless either oakleaf, but theres an awful amount of pressure on any new manager to take Derry to the
promised land this last few years. In your opinion has Cassidy done any better than Paddy Crozier, so far?
To be brutally honest about it. Some Derry supporters are deluded about the percieved ability of out footballers. At the minute Tyrone are the bench mark and the best way I can measure Derry against them is by looking at which of our players Mickey Harte would pick in his squad. I can only come up with the following G O'Kane, F Doherty, M Lynch, and the two Bradleys. Out of those only 2 would strengthen the Tyrone team. The players just are coming through. St Pats arent the force they where and the almost annual internal disputes dont help much. But the biggest problem is that in Derry the county team is secondary to the clubs.
Coming back to your question then I would have to say we are no further forward under Cassidy even if there are some encouraging signs there. It very hard for anyone man to change a mindset over night but its to early to say if in the long term Cassidy can manage that.
Would take big Enda as well!! The thing is with Mickey Harte, he may not have the 30 best players in Tyrone on the panel, but what he does have is the 30 best
workrate wise, and 30 who will stick rigidly to a system. I have my reservations about whether the two Bradleys would fit that bill. Fergal Doc certainly would I think.
Enda doesnt have the pace for the Tyrone style of play, a very classy footballer but where would he fit into the Tyrone team?
Good to have on the bench for the last 15 - 20 minutes. Thats my opinion anyway, class act.
Derry have missed Enda this year. Surely there some players from Ballinderry who are better than some of them boys on the panel tonight. Them boys have been used to winning.
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 18, 2009, 10:59:20 PM
Derry have missed Enda this year. Surely there some players from Ballinderry who are better than some of them boys on the panel tonight. Them boys have been used to winning.
AND James Conway. Think it was a big mistake by Cassidy to play judge, jury & executioner a few weeks back. With the Ballinderry lads FULLY on board,
Derry might have been looking forward to tomorrow nights draw, and possibly another crack at Tyrone,
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 11:02:58 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 18, 2009, 10:59:20 PM
Derry have missed Enda this year. Surely there some players from Ballinderry who are better than some of them boys on the panel tonight. Them boys have been used to winning.
AND James Conway. Think it was a big mistake by Cassidy to play judge, jury & executioner a few weeks back. With the Ballinderry lads FULLY on board,
Derry might have been looking forward to tomorrow nights draw, and possibly another crack at Tyrone,
The Ballinderry issue is a red herring imo. McGuckin is suspended or he would have played, Muldoon is injured or he would have played, McCusker is injured or he would have played, Conway would have been a sub as our problems arent at midfield. Of the rest of the Ballinderry players Devlin would be county standard but is injured. Most of the rest of them have been tried at one time or other.
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 11:02:58 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 18, 2009, 10:59:20 PM
Derry have missed Enda this year. Surely there some players from Ballinderry who are better than some of them boys on the panel tonight. Them boys have been used to winning.
AND James Conway. Think it was a big mistake by Cassidy to play judge, jury & executioner a few weeks back. With the Ballinderry lads FULLY on board,
Derry might have been looking forward to tomorrow nights draw, and possibly another crack at Tyrone,
might not have won, but the reality is that it didn't help. Bradley had his small issues with Antrim and solved them and Antrim are stronger for it. i would always want the stronger players from the county playing, but as long as they play to the system employed by the manager.
bed early for my juant tomorrow
I bow to your superior local knowledge oakleaf, but surely the whole Conway/Kielt/Ballinderry affair wasnt good for team morale throughout. I think it
was evident in the Tyrone game. OK against Monaghan, Derry looked fantastic at times, but perhaps the PLAYERS felt they had a point to prove last
Saturday & the PLAYERS took it upon themselves to prove it. I'm just not convinced about Cassidy & his man management skills.
The referee was a total bullocks - gave nothing to Derry.
Fair play to donegal where up for it and took the game to Derry - who where always on the back foot until the end.
McCloy was taken to the cleaners - the full back line was our achilles heel tonight. Gerald o'Kane was brilliant. Doherty had a very poor game.The second goal was a real sucker punch - believe we could have went on and win the game in extra time if it had not occurred.
Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 19, 2009, 12:48:21 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 19, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Would you not agree there was better on the bench than what was played. I dn't think DC is good enough, never have
we have to give him a fair crack of the whip all the same, there's no point in chopping and changing managers every year, who would you suggest as a replacement?
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 19, 2009, 12:58:21 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on July 19, 2009, 12:57:04 AM
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 19, 2009, 12:48:21 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 19, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Would you not agree there was better on the bench than what was played. I dn't think DC is good enough, never have
we have to give him a fair crack of the whip all the same, there's no point in chopping and changing managers every year, who would you suggest as a replacement?
Adrian Mc Guckin best manager in Derry.
probably was alright.
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 19, 2009, 12:48:21 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 19, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Would you not agree there was better on the bench than what was played. I dn't think DC is good enough, never have
Better on the bench? Where? Possibly McBride could have moved on Murphy as he marked him well in the U21 Cship but that was never going to happen after last week. Having seen Paul Murphy against Tyrone and twice against Screen in the cship he wasn't going to do anything either. I like O'Boyle but he's still a bit green yet.
Agree about the Doherty thing why have him in there and not play high ball to him? Didn't make sense to me. Too many individual errors in the display. Gillis maybe pulled 4 points from above the bar yet his kickouts were wayward. Lynch got some great scores yet lost a number of important balls. Kielt also some good scores but went missing for long spells. I could go through the whole team!
Gerard O'Kane finally reaching his peak at Senior football has been the only positive for me this year, he was our best player again today!
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss........................!
Rub it up ye, youse Derry bottlers.
Better team won on the night, sure we even did our usual wide show and ye couldn't take advantage! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Come on the Saffron's tomorrow.
so so so disappointed
not surprised, but really really disappointed
first of, some valid points by southderrygael, okleafer and screenexile
trevor hill, you talk nothing but fcukin shite
really dont know where to begin
i voiced my concerns about mccloy on here all week and once again he was destroyed, ffs its takes cas 70 mins last week and 30 mins today to catch on he's too slow, pure crazy. mc bride was hauled off after 15mins last week yet mccloy until just before half time today, why?? because of reputation?
lockhart got roasted again, mcbride had an excellent game on murphy in the under21's yet didnt see any gametime today
gerard o kane, lynch and skinner..............felll really sorry for these 3 men, gave their all while the rest clearly did not
cant believe how poor doc was, 85mins before he made a meaningful contribution
patsy battled hard but was always up against it
kielt did ok i suppose
mcguigan had an impact when he came on
cass has constantly went on about the "panel", the "squad" and "building for the championship".........then why the fcuk was gavin mcshane not played in any derry games until the tyrone game and is deemed good enough to come on today. nothing against the lad, but it smacks of complete panic. and it showed when he was taken off again.
i'd agree the ref was very sore on us, but thats not an excuse, we were rubbish.
colm mcfadden was our best player and kept us in it. donegal should have won in normal time, although had the ref played the time he indiacated i felt we had the momemtum and would have won.
but we wouldnt have deserved it. donegal should have won by far more. good luck to them for the rest of the year. we were terrible. im fed up with this derry team. constantly letting you down. leaving ballybofey tonight was the lowest i've felt in a hell of a long time, and i reallt doubt i'll be back to watch derry anywhere. really really hurt and let down :( :(
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 19, 2009, 02:14:18 AM
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Rub it up ye, youse Derry bottlers.
Better team won on the night, sure we even did our usual wide show and ye couldn't take advantage! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Come on the Saffron's tomorrow.
i had previously wished donegal all the best. but if you're gonna be a complete w*nker about it and not accept victory with any degree of graciousness or humility the fcuk ye's
Quote from: tyrone86 on July 19, 2009, 03:48:06 AM
Quote from: Oakleafer1993 on July 19, 2009, 12:17:27 AM
The referee was a total bullocks - gave nothing to Derry.
Fair play to donegal where up for it and took the game to Derry - who where always on the back foot until the end.
McCloy was taken to the cleaners - the full back line was our achilles heel tonight. Gerald o'Kane was brilliant. Doherty had a very poor game.The second goal was a real sucker punch - believe we could have went on and win the game in extra time if it had not occurred.
I haven't read past this post to see if any Derry supporter has refuted it, but as a total neutral, this is a spin comical Ali couldn't have put on it
The ref had a fine game imo up until the very last kick of the game when there was an very obvious free in not given to Derry which would have drawn the game.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 18, 2009, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 18, 2009, 10:24:26 PM
Some of you lads take the pundits a wee bit too seriously, whether its McHugh or Brolly or Spillane.
I don't think anyone takes McHugh too seriously
He's like a we bitter Darby O'Gill extra
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 18, 2009, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 11:02:58 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 18, 2009, 10:59:20 PM
Derry have missed Enda this year. Surely there some players from Ballinderry who are better than some of them boys on the panel tonight. Them boys have been used to winning.
AND James Conway. Think it was a big mistake by Cassidy to play judge, jury & executioner a few weeks back. With the Ballinderry lads FULLY on board,
Derry might have been looking forward to tomorrow nights draw, and possibly another crack at Tyrone,
The Ballinderry issue is a red herring imo. McGuckin is suspended or he would have played, Muldoon is injured or he would have played, McCusker is injured or he would have played, Conway would have been a sub as our problems arent at midfield. Of the rest of the Ballinderry players Devlin would be county standard but is injured. Most of the rest of them have been tried at one time or other.
You might be right looking at it in those terms - but the signal it gave wasn't the best.
I agree with that comment - I don't think it was wise of Cassidy to play judge, jury & executioner.
Quote from: 020304 Tir Eoghain on July 18, 2009, 11:12:44 PM
I bow to your superior local knowledge oakleaf, but surely the whole Conway/Kielt/Ballinderry affair wasnt good for team morale throughout. I think it
was evident in the Tyrone game. OK against Monaghan, Derry looked fantastic at times, but perhaps the PLAYERS felt they had a point to prove last
Saturday & the PLAYERS took it upon themselves to prove it. I'm just not convinced about Cassidy & his man management skills.
Agreed.
It also makes you question if Monaghan were any good at all?
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Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Would you not agree there was better on the bench than what was played. I dn't think DC is good enough, never have
Better on the bench? Where? Possibly McBride could have moved on Murphy as he marked him well in the U21 Cship but that was never going to happen after last week. Having seen Paul Murphy against Tyrone and twice against Screen in the cship he wasn't going to do anything either. I like O'Boyle but he's still a bit green yet.
Agree about the Doherty thing why have him in there and not play high ball to him? Didn't make sense to me. Too many individual errors in the display. Gillis maybe pulled 4 points from above the bar yet his kickouts were wayward. Lynch got some great scores yet lost a number of important balls. Kielt also some good scores but went missing for long spells. I could go through the whole team!
Gerard O'Kane finally reaching his peak at Senior football has been the only positive for me this year, he was our best player again today!
I would give him an All Star nomination based on his performances this year - Against Monaghan and Tyrone
Call it a red herring or whatever but the Ballinderry / James Conway issue was bound to have a detrimental effect on the squad.
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Call it a red herring or whatever but the Ballinderry / James Conway issue was bound to have a detrimental effect on the squad.
Agree
Personally I actually think that was the start of the end of Cassidy as manager of Derry.
In my opinion he may get next year out of it but I don't see anything that convinces me he's going anywhere at all.
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Quote from: orangeman on July 19, 2009, 09:57:42 AM
Call it a red herring or whatever but the Ballinderry / James Conway issue was bound to have a detrimental effect on the squad.
Agree
Personally I actually think that was the start of the end of Cassidy as manager of Derry.
In my opinion he may get next year out of it but I don't see anything that convinces me he's going anywhere at all.
He needs a chance.
Harte wouldn't have done any better, the players aren't there and the club scene is deemed more important then the county team, has been for years.
Derry can now concentrate on their club championship. Donegal squad wont sober until sometime after Christmas, at which point they will realise that after beating Derry they got beat by Antrim again. Two spineless teams, add nothing to the Championship apart from a few nice scores and a lot of rumors.
Orangeman would you ever take your tongue out of Conway's hole? Out of that extraordinary post count of yours, I'd say 80% is pure shite, while the other 20% is harping on about the most cowardly man in the country being hard done by.
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The referee was a total bullocks - gave nothing to Derry.
Fair play to donegal where up for it and took the game to Derry - who where always on the back foot until the end.
McCloy was taken to the cleaners - the full back line was our achilles heel tonight. Gerald o'Kane was brilliant. Doherty had a very poor game.The second goal was a real sucker punch - believe we could have went on and win the game in extra time if it had not occurred.
I haven't read past this post to see if any Derry supporter has refuted it, but as a total neutral, this is a spin comical Ali couldn't have put on it
The ref had a fine game imo up until the very last kick of the game when there was an very obvious free in not given to Derry which would have drawn the game.
where you listening on the radio?...... ref gave us nothing all night - skinner - PB where constantly being pushed on the back. Donegal where constantly clipping low on the legs. Sean Marty completed a clean tackle and was penalised.
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on July 19, 2009, 10:50:22 AM
Derry can now concentrate on their club championship. Donegal squad wont sober until sometime after Christmas, at which point they will realise that after beating Derry they got beat by Antrim again. Two spineless teams, add nothing to the Championship apart from a few nice scores and a lot of rumors.
Orangeman would you ever take your tongue out of Conway's hole? Out of that extraordinary post count of yours, I'd say 80% is pure shite, while the other 20% is harping on about the most cowardly man in the country being hard done by.
Now that's a bitter post
Thankyou Mr Mohan. Was Lynn fouled when he hit that last shot? Felt sorry for the lad, had an awful awful awful game but at least he was trying. Id say he will take some stick around the county the next few days, and on here especially.
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on July 19, 2009, 10:58:47 AM
Thankyou Mr Mohan. Was Lynn fouled when he hit that last shot? Felt sorry for the lad, had an awful awful awful game but at least he was trying. Id say he will take some stick around the county the next few days, and on here especially.
Ref bottled the last one ... but even the most disappointed of Derrymen would admit that Derry didn't deserve to win
Quote from: orangeman on July 19, 2009, 09:57:42 AM
Call it a red herring or whatever but the Ballinderry / James Conway issue was bound to have a detrimental effect on the squad.
It would it any county, whatever way it was handled by the manager. I think its obvious there's one man to blame for it, but clearly you're his mate and you can't accept that.
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on July 19, 2009, 10:58:47 AM
Thankyou Mr Mohan. Was Lynn fouled when he hit that last shot? Felt sorry for the lad, had an awful awful awful game but at least he was trying. Id say he will take some stick around the county the next few days, and on here especially.
i didn't get to the game, but it seemed as though several lads could have taken the shot, but he was the only one with the balls to take it on - i think he shouldn't be too worried by stick from us boys (and ladies) on here.
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Thankyou Mr Mohan. Was Lynn fouled when he hit that last shot? Felt sorry for the lad, had an awful awful awful game but at least he was trying. Id say he will take some stick around the county the next few days, and on here especially.
i didn't get to the game, but it seemed as though several lads could have taken the shot, but he was the only one with the balls to take it on - i think he shouldn't be too worried by stick from us boys (and ladies) on here.
Lynch could have taken the shot but it would have been rushed, so passed to the better-placed Lynn who was about 15m out and had a clear sight on goals. I'd love to see it again because I can't make my mind up whether Lynn was to blame or if the ref should have given a foul.
Looked to me like lynn rushed the shot but got it away and then was hit late, wasn't convinced it was a foul at the time.
He'll carry that miss on his shoulders for the rest of his career though :(
seems alot of people blaming enda lynn, catch a grip, had we got a draw it would have been a total injustice, donegal played us off the field, in every department, whether we like to admit it or not!!! Game was lost long before enda took the field
Also, alot of talk about mccloy and sml getting clean, true, however look at our defence every game, we have 2full backs who have no support with 40yards, its easy for a FF, in comparison to derrys FF's they are always being crowded out with 2/3 men more than we have in the oppoising 45.
Gillis - did well got a few good balls, but in the end up his bad kicking gave donegal 2points
SML - has seen better days hung out to dry by colleagues in hb line
mccloy - think he is finished, ok to battle for a ball in the air, but pace wise, non existent
Gerard - best player for us by a country mile
Sean Leo - terrible so much potential but had a shocking day at the office
Barry - was being pulled all over the show not usual self
mcKaigue - did ok, scored the crucial point to bring us level
Fergal - non existent
Joe - Non existent
Patsy - only woke up in the 2nd half of extra time
mullan - struggling with an injury and showed
James- scored a few sweet points, but nothing compared to last weeks exhibition
Skinner - won alot of possesion but wos constently winning it on the side line, a testament to donegals defending and pressure on the ball coming in
Paddy - to me paddy is the player that can score 10points 1 day and if it aint going right, score nothing the next day, hit a shot with outside of the left at 1 stage (wide) from 21 yards
Lynch - did ok, but not in par with last week
if someone has the stats, check the midfield 8 battle, i would say donegal cleaned us in possesion - breakball turnover etc!!!
SouthDerryGael what is ur real name, im guessing wan*ker and ur bout 60yrs old and never hav kick a ball b4!
ha ha ha ha
There are some tools on here too!
I dont think its fair of some people to pass so much comment on the Derry performance having listened to it on the radio.
I for one thought Derry played OK, in particular Ger O'Kane, Lynch and Skinner. We scored 18 points ffs.
We were cleaned out in the full back line...lockhart and mccloy were both destroyed. Lockhart should have been taken off...McBride had a poor game against Monaghan but I dont think he could have been any worse than SML was yesterday and should at least have been given a try. I thought both teams played some very good football. Yes Donegal kicked a lot of wides in the second period of extra time, but Derry kicked at least as many wides in the first half of normal time...so to say Donegal should have been out of sight is also an exaggeration IMO.
Also an awful lot of people here questioning Cassidy....that's very premature as he's only in the job 6 months and we are still without some of our top players in McCusker, Muldoon, Hinphy, Mick McGoldrick, Devlin, McGuckian and Cartin (tho he prob wont be back). I do think he made some mistakes yesterday...for example taking off Diver, not taking off SML, starting McCaigue...but I thought on the whole there wasnt an awful lot wrong tactically.
Donegal were really up for the game, had home advantage and have a lot of very dangerous players and always have the potential (like ourselves) to play really well. Donegall had all the advantages going into this game and I think a one point victory was probably about right on the day, but at the same time if derry had won by a point there wouldnt be any of this talk about them putting in a poor performance.
The performance was fine, the game was a good one and Donegal won.
This is not an excuse, but I though the referee was awful towards Derry. Paddy Bradley went off injured after a blatant elbow to the back of the head right in front of me and the ref. The ref gave PB a lecture and told him to get up. 2 mins later the same defender hit Skinner a box in the jaw...again no free and a lecture from the ref to the Derry player. Skinner and PB were pulled and dragged all day and rarely was a free given but at the other end when SML and co fouled, which was quite often, there was always a free. In MF too it seemed to me Patsy and Diver were pushed in the back for every kickout and I only remember getting one free for that. I dont mind a ref being picky or letting the game flow....but he has to be equal to both teams and he certainly wasnt yesterday. But worst of all was in the extra time when Lynn should have given us the equaliser, he was clearly fouled. He should still have got the score, but we should have had a free in about 20m right in front of goals which would have taken it to a replay.
I dont blame Dongal, as I dont think they were dirty or anything but I think the ref was definately biased against Derry.
Anyway good luck to Donegal.....they have the players to get to a semi anyway IMO and I for one will be backing yous in the next round...even if there were two women behind me who came out with some of the worst things I've ever heard at a match, but sure every county has a few pshyco weemin about, but the majority of the Donegal supporters around us were friendly throughout and I was disappointed at the end but at the same time had no problem wishing them the best for the rest of the championship.
Billy Big Balls with his silverware. ::)
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There are some tools on here too!
There is an influx of moronic, braindead children here every summer. Normally they get bored or are quickly banned.
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Rub it up ye, youse Derry bottlers.
Better team won on the night, sure we even did our usual wide show and ye couldn't take advantage! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Come on the Saffron's tomorrow.
i had previously wished donegal all the best. but if you're gonna be a complete w*nker about it and not accept victory with any degree of graciousness or humility the fcuk ye's
Ah get over yourself, and take it in the spirits (or spirits!) it was meant in. ;)
Don't be encouraging underage drinking.
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The referee was a total bullocks - gave nothing to Derry.
Fair play to donegal where up for it and took the game to Derry - who where always on the back foot until the end.
McCloy was taken to the cleaners - the full back line was our achilles heel tonight. Gerald o'Kane was brilliant. Doherty had a very poor game.The second goal was a real sucker punch - believe we could have went on and win the game in extra time if it had not occurred.
I haven't read past this post to see if any Derry supporter has refuted it, but as a total neutral, this is a spin comical Ali couldn't have put on it
The ref had a fine game imo up until the very last kick of the game when there was an very obvious free in not given to Derry which would have drawn the game.
balls he did, he was near as bad as Derry were. Donegal continuosly fouled and disrupted attack after attack and how many yellow cards did they get in normal time? 2nd half produced a tonne of stoppages and how much additional time was given? 2 fcukin minutes
Our neighbours were more hungry, more up for it. The McGee's whilst being annoying hooers did the business, Lacey had another stormer.
Lynch, Skinner, Patsy and Gerd, take a bow. Saturday was a low day, esp as it looked like we had some decent numbers out supporting for a change, but we'll hopefully come good.
And as for anyone asking for Cassidy to be replaced, catch yourselves on. The man deserves @ least a 3 year term.
Doire Abu and good luck to Donegal
PS: can folk stop sniping @ county players, name calling and so forth, you's are a disgrace
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Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Would you not agree there was better on the bench than what was played. I dn't think DC is good enough, never have
Better on the bench? Where? Possibly McBride could have moved on Murphy as he marked him well in the U21 Cship but that was never going to happen after last week. Having seen Paul Murphy against Tyrone and twice against Screen in the cship he wasn't going to do anything either. I like O'Boyle but he's still a bit green yet.
Agree about the Doherty thing why have him in there and not play high ball to him? Didn't make sense to me. Too many individual errors in the display. Gillis maybe pulled 4 points from above the bar yet his kickouts were wayward. Lynch got some great scores yet lost a number of important balls. Kielt also some good scores but went missing for long spells. I could go through the whole team!
Gerard O'Kane finally reaching his peak at Senior football has been the only positive for me this year, he was our best player again today!
I think Mc Bride would have done better than Sean Marty, felt a bit gutted for him being replaced b4 throw in. Lynn is a tube, I don't know why Cassidy insists on putting him on, he fluffed up numerous oppurtunities and missed the equaliser. I know I'm biased but I know Cailean can play well, how is he ever going to get experience if he isn't given match time? Some of the angles he kicks points over from are outrageous. I don't understand where the huge confidence in Mc Shane has come from, he much impress in training or something. Brian Mullan did a better job than Lynn b4 being subbed, Paul Murphy while is often hit and miss could have made a difference today.
I don't think DC even had a glame plan to day, and dare I say it but even though Derry are a better team then Monaghan but I think a lot of DC's 'tactical ploys' v Monaghan worked by fluke as Monaghan were poor enough. Managing Derry to the All Ireland is a far cry from managing Colone to the Tyrone title, as Tyrone club teams are relatively poor.
I think there in lies where a lot of the misplaced belief that Derry are better than they are comes from. The club scene is in my opinion not as good as many Derry people think it is. Across the board Tyrone club football is every bit as strong as that in Derry. The top 5/6 teams in Tyrone could beat the top 5/6 teams in Derry on any given day and vice versa. Also, moving down into the intermediate and junior ranks the Tyrone teams would be of a higher standard than their Derry counterparts.
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Dunno about this midfield dominance we got cleaned for break ball and that's on HBs MF and HFs. Conal dunne one of the smallest men on the pitch won more ball than he knew what to do with.
FB line cleaned but Donegal almost kicked themselves out of it as we gave them the lions share of possession.
Bottom line we do not have the quality and we had players starting the game that are not up to the required level. At least 3 who started the game and all the subs bar McAlary were out of their depth. Are the players within the county and just not playing or do they just not exist?
Well I think they're there somewhere and it's up to the management to get it sorted for next year. The players blooded this year are not up to it when it matters and it's a huge worry. Back to the drawing board!
Would you not agree there was better on the bench than what was played. I dn't think DC is good enough, never have
Better on the bench? Where? Possibly McBride could have moved on Murphy as he marked him well in the U21 Cship but that was never going to happen after last week. Having seen Paul Murphy against Tyrone and twice against Screen in the cship he wasn't going to do anything either. I like O'Boyle but he's still a bit green yet.
Agree about the Doherty thing why have him in there and not play high ball to him? Didn't make sense to me. Too many individual errors in the display. Gillis maybe pulled 4 points from above the bar yet his kickouts were wayward. Lynch got some great scores yet lost a number of important balls. Kielt also some good scores but went missing for long spells. I could go through the whole team!
Gerard O'Kane finally reaching his peak at Senior football has been the only positive for me this year, he was our best player again today!
I think Mc Bride would have done better than Sean Marty, felt a bit gutted for him being replaced b4 throw in. Lynn is a tube, I don't know why Cassidy insists on putting him on, he fluffed up numerous oppurtunities and missed the equaliser. I know I'm biased but I know Cailean can play well, how is he ever going to get experience if he isn't given match time? Some of the angles he kicks points over from are outrageous. I don't understand where the huge confidence in Mc Shane has come from, he much impress in training or something. Brian Mullan did a better job than Lynn b4 being subbed, Paul Murphy while is often hit and miss could have made a difference today.
I don't think DC even had a glame plan to day, and dare I say it but even though Derry are a better team then Monaghan but I think a lot of DC's 'tactical ploys' v Monaghan worked by fluke as Monaghan were poor enough. Managing Derry to the All Ireland is a far cry from managing Colone to the Tyrone title, as Tyrone club teams are relatively poor.
I think there in lies where a lot of the misplaced belief that Derry are better than they are comes from. The club scene is in my opinion not as good as many Derry people think it is. Across the board Tyrone club football is every bit as strong as that in Derry. The top 5/6 teams in Tyrone could beat the top 5/6 teams in Derry on any given day and vice versa. Also, moving down into the intermediate and junior ranks the Tyrone teams would be of a higher standard than their Derry conuterparts.
And the top players from these clubs would be given more respect than in derry if the the derry thread is anything to go by.
We have a lot of big time charlies blowing up fellas cos theyre oh so good for the seemingly gladiatorial conditions of senior club football in the county.
And sure we'll disparage players from the lower ranks we have barely seen cos they havent been forged in the furnace of 'seenyer fitball'
I reckon we should develop a healthier spread from the lower clubs, at least we would avoid the feckin annual 'big club fiasco' in the camp, could also be good down the line as well
Loughshore thats is these boys problem. They have fooled themselves into thinking they have a stronger club scene. Our club scene is stronger because it produces more players of county standard at Mc Rory, minor, u21 and senior level.
Whiskey the fact is there aren't any players from Derrys junior or intermediate clubs who would improve the team, i disagree that players from these teams don't get a chance, if they are good enough they will like the McGoldrick brothers did from your club.
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Whiskey the fact is there aren't any players from Derrys junior or intermediate clubs who would improve the team, i disagree that players from these teams don't get a chance, if they are good enough they will like the McGoldrick brothers did from your club.
With respect mario, stating that we dont have the players in the lower ranks for a 'fact', smacks of ignorance unless you are a keen follower of intermediate or junior football. I havent been to an intermediate game this year but im sure there could well be one or two prospects at that level.
In the past 2 years ourselves and Newbridge made the progression to senior and its not as if we magicked new players for the top table, yet they get danny mullholland on the panel and we ended the season with 3 panelists and we may well have 4 next year. This is not to say these are players who will have an impact but that is sort of my point, they are getting their shot through the exposure of senior football.
If we had a Ciaran Gourley type player in a junior or lower intermediate team he would not stick out to such a great deal that we would be crying out for his inclusion, if indeed we even knew about him, its for the management to expand their focus and develop players patiently with long term expectations in mind IMO
Quick question for Derry wans, if Liam Bradley decided to leave Antrim after this years AI, would you take him over Cass for next year?
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 20, 2009, 10:36:16 AM
Quick question for Derry wans, if Liam Bradley decided to leave Antrim after this years AI, would you take him over Cass for next year?
I wouldn't - Baker has done well with this Antrim side, but they beat a wasteful Donegal side who seemed to treat Antrim the way Derry treated Donegal on Saturday night - the attitude seemed to be 'all we have to do is turn up to beat them'. Antrim also beat Cavan - who haven't produced the goods for a long time.
Derry people have been giving out about DC's tactic, but Bradley also showed some naivety yesterday with the 3man FF line.
I would give DC
at the very least another 2yrs to see what he can do.
A quick question for the Donegal posters....what do yous think of John-Joe Doherty now?
I know a lot of people didnt want him in the job but after defeating Derry are yous any happier with him?
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 20, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
A quick question for the Donegal posters....what do yous think of John-Joe Doherty now?
I know a lot of people didnt want him in the job but after defeating Derry are yous any happier with him?
Feel good factor will last at least til Saturday, but it's still way to early to tell how JJ Doc's doing.
A result against Galway and you'd be hard pressed to find a Donegal man say a bad word against him.
But the reality is that if he can bring some consistancy and DISCIPLINE to the team then he'd be doing a fantastic job.
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 20, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
A quick question for the Donegal posters....what do yous think of John-Joe Doherty now?
I know a lot of people didnt want him in the job but after defeating Derry are yous any happier with him?
I think the same about JJ now as I did when was first appointed. I think he's a bit naive tactically and is very much learning as he goes along. Still he deserves his chance at the helm and I've given him 100% support (which I'm sure have been very important to him ;) ).
The most disheartening thing about be a Donegal man this year has been the lack of heart and commitment from the lads (until the weekend there at least). Whist the manager has some part to play in getting a team mentally up for a game, IMO most of it comes from the players themselves. Like most other fans, if your team gives 100% and is fairly beaten on the day then I'm going to thank the lads for the effort and be happy enough. However seeing lads out on the field with obviously no great desire to be there is extremely frustrating.
If we can keep up then intensity shown against the Derry wans then maybe the spotlight will turn more onto JJ and his managerial ability. For now I think people will settle for a bit of hunger on the field.
It's also worth remembering that a lot of the anger during JJ's appointment was as much about the poor way in which Charlie and Declan were treated as about the abilities of JJ.
Did anybody else notice at the end of the game, when the players were heading back to the changing rooms, the Donegal Full Back was making a charge for the exit, and had to be held back by other Dun Na Ngall players and supporters. Something had obviously happened because he was stone mad.
How bad was/is Paddy Bradleys injury?
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Quote from: wherefromreferee? on July 20, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
Did anybody else notice at the end of the game, when the players were heading back to the changing rooms, the Donegal Full Back was making a charge for the exit, and had to be held back by other Dun Na Ngall players and supporters. Something had obviously happened because he was stone mad.
Awk Neill Mc Gee is a bit of an arsehole anyway.
Your still banging that drum are you girlie? You're a sole voice of excuse-making in a dignified and sporting reaction from Derry folk.
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Did anybody else notice at the end of the game, when the players were heading back to the changing rooms, the Donegal Full Back was making a charge for the exit, and had to be held back by other Dun Na Ngall players and supporters. Something had obviously happened because he was stone mad.
Awk Neill Mc Gee is a bit of an arsehole anyway.
Your still banging that drum are you girlie? You're a sole voice of excuse-making in a dignified and sporting reaction from Derry folk.
By my count, it is a minority of Derry posters on this board who do not have a compulsive need to badmouth the opposition, whether after losing or in victory. SDG is just at the extreme end of bad taste, from a sporting perspective..
Quote from: Main Street on July 20, 2009, 03:58:50 PM
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Did anybody else notice at the end of the game, when the players were heading back to the changing rooms, the Donegal Full Back was making a charge for the exit, and had to be held back by other Dun Na Ngall players and supporters. Something had obviously happened because he was stone mad.
Awk Neill Mc Gee is a bit of an arsehole anyway.
Your still banging that drum are you girlie? You're a sole voice of excuse-making in a dignified and sporting reaction from Derry folk.
By my count, it is a minority of Derry posters on this board who do not have a compulsive need to badmouth the opposition, whether after losing or in victory. SDG is just at the extreme end of bad taste, from a sporting perspective..
MS Thought most of the Derry posters I read on Sat night Sun morn were gracious enough.
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 20, 2009, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: JMohan on July 20, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
How bad was/is Paddy Bradleys injury?
Concussion, he gets it quite often 3 times in the last 2 years I think. Should recover that in a matter of hours.
it was reported after his initial 'break' from the squad that he'd suffered concussion twice in the previous 2/3 months, certainly was taken off against Dublin with it. Apparently on saturday his vision was badly blurred after shipping a heavy knock to the head (of course, nobody saw it).
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Quote from: Main Street on July 20, 2009, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on July 20, 2009, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 20, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on July 20, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
Did anybody else notice at the end of the game, when the players were heading back to the changing rooms, the Donegal Full Back was making a charge for the exit, and had to be held back by other Dun Na Ngall players and supporters. Something had obviously happened because he was stone mad.
Awk Neill Mc Gee is a bit of an arsehole anyway.
Your still banging that drum are you girlie? You're a sole voice of excuse-making in a dignified and sporting reaction from Derry folk.
By my count, it is a minority of Derry posters on this board who do not have a compulsive need to badmouth the opposition, whether after losing or in victory. SDG is just at the extreme end of bad taste, from a sporting perspective..
MS Thought most of the Derry posters I read on Sat night Sun morn were gracious enough.
Take everything this Monaghan poster says about Derry with a pinch of salt. He's just bitter because we beat them twice and is still trying to come to terms with us having better footballers than them.
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 20, 2009, 04:20:23 PM
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Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 20, 2009, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: JMohan on July 20, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
How bad was/is Paddy Bradleys injury?
Concussion, he gets it quite often 3 times in the last 2 years I think. Should recover that in a matter of hours.
it was reported after his initial 'break' from the squad that he'd suffered concussion twice in the previous 2/3 months, certainly was taken off against Dublin with it. Apparently on saturday his vision was badly blurred after shipping a heavy knock to the head (of course, nobody saw it).
He got in in the NLF as well. I saw it happen it was an accident tho it happened over at the far side near the stand around the 21 Derry were shooting into in the 2nd half.
It happened right in front of me and didnt seem too much like an accident. The same player hit skinner a belt in the gob 5 mins later and no-ne saw it either! If they had been seen (How the Tyrone linesman missed it or the ref who was 10 yards away I'll never knoewI cant see how the ref could have done anything but send the player in question off, but at the same time it was the only near dirty incident in the whole game so no real complaints. More a complaint about the ref than the Donegal player as he came over and lectured both paddy and eoin I'm assuming for "pretending" to be hurt. Thats a dangerous tactic from a ref...particularly PB as he was concussed and that could potentially have been a very serious injury.
Did any of you see the slap big Joe [Diver] hit one of the McGees after the match on Saturday night. I wonder what was it about?
Concussion is hard to diagnose
Must have been why McGee made a run for the exit at the end of the game
Derry need some defenders from somewhere in the full back line. Good forwards- good midfield but bar O Kane I think the rest of the backs are suspect.
I think the defenders are in Derry for the FB line
The Half Forward line is a trouble line too
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Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 20, 2009, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 20, 2009, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on July 20, 2009, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: SouthDerryGael on July 20, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on July 20, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
Did anybody else notice at the end of the game, when the players were heading back to the changing rooms, the Donegal Full Back was making a charge for the exit, and had to be held back by other Dun Na Ngall players and supporters. Something had obviously happened because he was stone mad.
Awk Neill Mc Gee is a bit of an arsehole anyway.
Your still banging that drum are you girlie? You're a sole voice of excuse-making in a dignified and sporting reaction from Derry folk.
By my count, it is a minority of Derry posters on this board who do not have a compulsive need to badmouth the opposition, whether after losing or in victory. SDG is just at the extreme end of bad taste, from a sporting perspective..
MS Thought most of the Derry posters I read on Sat night Sun morn were gracious enough.
Take everything this Monaghan poster says about Derry with a pinch of salt. He's just bitter because we beat them twice and is still trying to come to terms with us having better footballers than them.
Came to terms with it unreservedly, immediately after both games and wrote as much. Gracious in defeat ;D
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 20, 2009, 10:49:06 PM
Did any of you see the slap big Joe [Diver] hit one of the McGees after the match on Saturday night. I wonder what was it about?
at a guess I'd say it was wing half back McGee, he was acting the clown all game
Yes, it was the wing half back one. He came over to big Joe after the game and Joe punched him one in the face and then ran down the tunnel and then the other brother tried to get down the tunnel after him.
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 21, 2009, 11:35:06 AM
Yes, it was the wing half back one. He came over to big Joe after the game and Joe punched him one in the face and then ran down the tunnel and then the other brother tried to get down the tunnel after him.
So Diver hit one of the McGees a box in the mouth and then run ???
How does this result affect Derrys position as a top 4 team?
Are they now fifth?
Quote from: bingobus on July 21, 2009, 11:39:52 AM
How does this result affect Derrys position as a top 4 team?
Are they now fifth?
Derry were never in the top four. There is no such grouping. As much at it pains me Tyrone are clear of the rest with a group of maybe Dublin, Cork & Kerry ranked next and after that its a fight for the crumbs from the table.
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Quote from: bingobus on July 21, 2009, 11:39:52 AM
How does this result affect Derrys position as a top 4 team?
Are they now fifth?
Derry were never in the top four. There is no such grouping. As much at it pains me Tyrone are clear of the rest with a group of maybe Dublin, Cork & Kerry ranked next and after that its a fight for the crumbs from the table.
Well it was hardly ever an official title.
But basically outside of Tyrone at the minute, any Ulster team can beat another Ulster team on a given day.
Happy to see this result and hope Donegal can ensure two Ulster teams stay in the mix for a bit longer.