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Title: Roger's History
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2009, 06:39:47 PM
I wonder could Roger give us a summary of events from 1968 onwards or more interestingly tell us his thoughts about the 6 Cos between 1922 and 1967.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:43:19 PM
Whos roger?
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: carribbear on February 12, 2009, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:43:19 PM
Whos roger?

One of the "i'm only here to knock the gaa but Linfield are great, now wheres my bowler hat?" brigade
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: carribbear on February 12, 2009, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:43:19 PM
Whos roger?

One of the "i'm only here to knock the gaa but Linfield are great, now wheres my bowler hat?" brigade


Oh rite. I put him on my ignore list, i dont get to see any of his posts.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: tyrone86 on February 12, 2009, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:55:16 PM

Oh rite. I put him on my ignore list, i dont get to see any of his posts.

How do you do that, I only thought it was for PMs
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: ziggysego on February 12, 2009, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:43:19 PM
Whos roger?

He's a right Dodger
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Square Ball on February 12, 2009, 07:51:03 PM
must have missed him
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 12, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
I'd be careful here and let sleeping dogs lie....
Didn't the Daddy Mod shut down the Southern Irish thread an hour or so ago and said he'd go bananas if anyone started up a  new thread to continue with the same kind of shite squabbling discussion?
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: ziggysego on February 12, 2009, 08:29:03 PM
Shit. Is this what this thread is about?

I'm stepping back then. Sorry mod :*
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 12, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:43:19 PM
Whos roger?

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/88/228348105_fa4f8846c1.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 12, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 12, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
I'd be careful here and let sleeping dogs lie....
Didn't the Daddy Mod shut down the Southern Irish thread an hour or so ago and said he'd go bananas if anyone started up a  new thread to continue with the same kind of shite squabbling discussion?

added to the fact that these people just wont accept reality !
Rossfan - yer wasting your time!
:D
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2009, 08:12:37 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 12, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 12, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
I’d be careful here and let sleeping dogs lie....
Didn’t the Daddy Mod shut down the Southern Irish thread an hour or so ago and said he’d go bananas if anyone started up a  new thread to continue with the same kind of shite squabbling discussion?

added to the fact that these people just wont accept reality !
Rossfan - yer wasting your time!
:D
I left it after about five pages but having just read the last 2 pages I'd say the mod did you a favour. Call it a discussion board 8 count.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Roger on February 13, 2009, 09:00:21 AM
The immature thread-title choice would suggest that this is indeed an attempt to "re-start the squabbling elsewhere" and not a genuine invite for discussion on a valid topic.

Maybe gaaboard could clarify the boards position before proceeding?



Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: carribbear on February 13, 2009, 09:06:32 AM
Personally I would find it facinating to learn more about the history of that time. The thread title is merely an invitation to share.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Roger on February 13, 2009, 09:12:31 AM
Quote from: carribbear on February 13, 2009, 09:06:32 AM
Personally I would find it facinating to learn more about the history of that time. The thread title is merely an invitation to share.
Agree with the former but not the latter.

I await gaaboard's view.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 13, 2009, 09:16:22 AM
I agree with Roger. The nature of such threads adds little (if anything) to the board.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2009, 08:12:37 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 12, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 12, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
I'd be careful here and let sleeping dogs lie....
Didn't the Daddy Mod shut down the Southern Irish thread an hour or so ago and said he'd go bananas if anyone started up a  new thread to continue with the same kind of shite squabbling discussion?

added to the fact that these people just wont accept reality !
Rossfan - yer wasting your time!
:D
I left it after about five pages but having just read the last 2 pages I'd say the mod did you a favour. Call it a discussion board 8 count.
while it was annoying, and I'd say painful to read I wouldnt have thought it was too bad apart from being cringeworthy for deliberate lack of understanding by some - but you say it was against rule 8 ? Surely would have been rule 9 but recently these things have been allowed on other threads !?

SS2 - this kind of thing is mentioned yet passed over on multiple occasion while worse aspects of the past are routinely discussed , I'd agree with carribear though - plus the poster in the thread title did ask that a 'seperate' thread be started to discuss this so I presume rossfan has done the needful, but I see that the reverse gear is in full use already....
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 13, 2009, 09:16:22 AM
I agree with Roger. The nature of such threads adds little (if anything) to the board.
They just become 30 pages of I'm right, you're wrong which is futile. However like buses there will be another one along in a minute!
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 13, 2009, 09:16:22 AM
I agree with Roger. The nature of such threads adds little (if anything) to the board.
They just become 30 pages of I'm right, you're wrong which is futile. However like buses there will be another one along in a minute!
true enough
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Roger on February 13, 2009, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
the poster in the thread title did ask that a 'seperate' thread be started to discuss this so I presume rossfan has done the needful
That was before gaaboard's intervention.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AMbut I see that the reverse gear is in full use already....
I await gaaboard's clarification, however it's the immaturity behind the thread title and comments like this of your's that make discussions deteriorate rapidly.

Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Roger on February 13, 2009, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
the poster in the thread title did ask that a 'seperate' thread be started to discuss this so I presume rossfan has done the needful
That was before gaaboard's intervention.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AMbut I see that the reverse gear is in full use already....
I await gaaboard's clarification, however it's the immaturity behind the thread title and comments like this of your's that make discussions deteriorate rapidly.
with all the other stuff that is brought up on here (death, killing, various non pc items), how would any topic be off the radar in terms of being eligible for debateespecially one of actual history?
OK as Tony B points out, its most likely going to end up an 'I'm right, you are wrong' type of discussion, but I would hope that people wont hide behind the facade of what you are saying above to not finally create a debate on this as its been skirted around by 'some' for as long as I can remember.
You , if you recall, asked for this to be started in a seperate topic, so the floor is open to you....
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: passedit on February 13, 2009, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 13, 2009, 09:16:22 AM
I agree with Roger. The nature of such threads adds little (if anything) to the board.

Generally i'd agree however I'd be most interested in fred the Red's response to the question put him.

Quote from: tyrone86 on February 12, 2009, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: fred the red on February 12, 2009, 06:55:16 PM

Oh rite. I put him on my ignore list, i dont get to see any of his posts.

How do you do that, I only thought it was for PMs

Now that would greatly enhance my reading of these boards.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Main Street on February 13, 2009, 09:43:10 AM
The thread title is immature and too personal.
Roger has his opinions but afair he expresses them rationally and within the boundaries of board rules.
The thread title is not appropriate, more of a pĂ­sstake and if  I were Roger, by the grace of God :) I would avoid getting involved.

Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2009, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Roger on February 13, 2009, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
the poster in the thread title did ask that a 'seperate' thread be started to discuss this so I presume rossfan has done the needful
That was before gaaboard's intervention.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AMbut I see that the reverse gear is in full use already....
I await gaaboard's clarification, however it's the immaturity behind the thread title and comments like this of your's that make discussions deteriorate rapidly.
with all the other stuff that is brought up on here (death, killing, various non pc items), how would any topic be off the radar in terms of being eligible for debateespecially one of actual history?
OK as Tony B points out, its most likely going to end up an 'I'm right, you are wrong' type of discussion, but I would hope that people wont hide behind the facade of what you are saying above to not finally create a debate on this as its been skirted around by 'some' for as long as I can remember.
You , if you recall, asked for this to be started in a seperate topic, so the floor is open to you....
But LB what I saw on the 2 pages I read wasn't history. It was your opinion that the ra were ideologues whereas the counter argument was that they were a murderous band of criminals. That's opinion not history. I didn't read the other pages so I can't comment but I'm all for a bit of history on the board. The wife studied irish history at university and now teaches it so I've shown no interest in it for ten years!
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Zapatista on February 13, 2009, 10:27:51 AM
Roger is History? Did he get banned?
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Roger on February 13, 2009, 11:02:54 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on February 13, 2009, 10:27:51 AM
Roger is History? Did he get banned?
:D

Not yet.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 13, 2009, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 12, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
Why was it locked? A few people having a discussion about what they like to discuss, on a discussion board.

What next? The Antrim Club Football thread will be locked because the mod isn't from Antrim and doesn't want to read about Antrim Club Football?

It should be locked - but solely on the grounds of the standard of the football.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 12:21:56 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2009, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Roger on February 13, 2009, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
the poster in the thread title did ask that a 'seperate' thread be started to discuss this so I presume rossfan has done the needful
That was before gaaboard's intervention.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 09:19:32 AMbut I see that the reverse gear is in full use already....
I await gaaboard's clarification, however it's the immaturity behind the thread title and comments like this of your's that make discussions deteriorate rapidly.
with all the other stuff that is brought up on here (death, killing, various non pc items), how would any topic be off the radar in terms of being eligible for debateespecially one of actual history?
OK as Tony B points out, its most likely going to end up an 'I'm right, you are wrong' type of discussion, but I would hope that people wont hide behind the facade of what you are saying above to not finally create a debate on this as its been skirted around by 'some' for as long as I can remember.
You , if you recall, asked for this to be started in a seperate topic, so the floor is open to you....
But LB what I saw on the 2 pages I read wasn't history. It was your opinion that the ra were ideologues whereas the counter argument was that they were a murderous band of criminals. That's opinion not history. I didn't read the other pages so I can't comment but I'm all for a bit of history on the board. The wife studied irish history at university and now teaches it so I've shown no interest in it for ten years!
thats a fairly good and accurate depiction alright !
naw Tony,
I wasnt saying that that prev thread was 'historic' in its content, I was saying that we 'could' have a thread that actually discusses the historic element, though I think we would all find it unlikely that it would avoid falling into the same old downward spiral though
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 12:22:43 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 13, 2009, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 12, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
Why was it locked? A few people having a discussion about what they like to discuss, on a discussion board.

What next? The Antrim Club Football thread will be locked because the mod isn't from Antrim and doesn't want to read about Antrim Club Football?

It should be locked - but solely on the grounds of the standard of the football.
are you talking about the prev history of Antrim football or the current standard under new and 'all improved ' management?
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 13, 2009, 12:27:53 PM
You could probably get away with ignoring most of the last 50 years or so.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Roger on February 13, 2009, 12:36:40 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 13, 2009, 12:27:53 PM
You could probably get away with ignoring most of the last 50 years or so.
He already tries to  ;)
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 13, 2009, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: Roger on February 13, 2009, 12:36:40 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 13, 2009, 12:27:53 PM
You could probably get away with ignoring most of the last 50 years or so.
He already tries to  ;)
oh the irony  :D
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: An Fear Rua on February 13, 2009, 02:29:59 PM
Its nice to see Roger has decided to join in on the less contentious and lighthearted board topics.
Title: Re: Roger's History
Post by: Rossfan on February 13, 2009, 06:00:34 PM
Ah well Roger asked me to start a separate thread so we could have his take on events .
I did and then he said he couldnt comment till  the mods gave him a policy statemet.
Roger  ,like an awful lot of Unionists will never be able to join the modern world unti lthey confront their past and exorcise it.

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