Apparently there will be a late late show GAA Special for the 125 celebrations, if any kind soul with the appropriate technology would be willing to record this and post a DVD I'd be eternally grateful and pay for any p&p
Any idea when said show is on?
Thanks.
9:30pm tomorrow night
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/latelate_gaa125.html
Quote from: stephenite on January 08, 2009, 02:16:54 AM
Apparently there will be a late late show GAA Special for the 125 celebrations, if any kind soul with the appropriate technology would be willing to record this and post a DVD I'd be eternally grateful and pay for any p&p
pm sent
Why do i always feel disconnected when watching these types of show? unlike the tg4 profiles of greats of our games, when i feel i nearly know the men and certainly their clubs could be my own.
I see its on the website worldwide as well
Is it going to be a GAA Special or a GPA Special ? I expect the Killiney boy will not be afraid to ask some awkward questions of our Nicholas?
I can see it all coming... like:
Killiney Boy: This is the 125th year in the history of the GAA, it has come a long way since its foundation in terms of players rights Nicky, do you think this is down to the GAA or the GPA ?
Nickey Brennan Well Pat, as you know the Congress is coming up and it would be wrong for me to comment on it now.
KB Do you think the players are better looked after now than they were say back fifty or sixty years ago when they played with the corked studs and in flour bags where as now they go on two hundred thousand euro holiday packages at the end of the year.
Nickey Brennan Well Pat, as you know the Congress is coming up and it would be wrong for me to comment on it now.
KB We are joined by Henry Shefflin, a county man of your own Nicky, Henry, can I ask you about the relationship between say the Cats as ye are called and the GPA and do you accept that the GAA are moving away from the 'amateur' status to being a more professional organizeation?
HS Well Pat we play as a team, our concentration and focus is on winning All-Irelands and keeping our arses a safe distance from Mr Cody's bacon slicer.
KB But Nicky, you must agree that even some of the players, from even Kilkenny, where the GAA is sacrasanct, are members of the GPA, or the Gaelic Professional Association and they can be seen hurling in the middle of a lake in up to six foot of water while slugging out of a bottle of Engineoiler and I am suggesting that no hurler would want to play under these conditions and I am just asking is this done on a private basis or for the players as a group under the auspices of the Gaelic Professional Association or the GPA as they are called?
NB Well Pat, I understand there is a motion coming before Congress from a club in Finglas about players being recognized and their rights as regards payments and grants and advertising and so forth so as it is going to be on the Clar I will not discuss this now.
KB We are now joined by Mr. Dessie Farrell, take a seat there Dessie....
at which time a good solid leather shoe, just like at the Bush Press Conference, comes flying out of the crowd in the direction of Farrells head.
Late Late show abandoned, all over papers next day, gaa ruined as a result, picture of Mickey Harte standing at a bus stop wearing one shoe all over front pages etc, etc.
Yes folks, this is going to be one good show that will rightfully reflect on the GAA for what it is, the provider of one of the worlds greatest community sports, the greatest games and it wil tell how the GAA is the very fabric of all that is good in Irish Society and how it has helped not just our national community to integrate and prosper through the community spirit and social life it has built up throughout the world - or - it will become a soap box for the GPA.
(http://www.gaahistory.com/images/GAA%20125%20two%20men%20at%20goal.jpg)
The man in the coat and cap is Lory Meaghar and the goalkeeper is Jim Dermody and the pic was taken in the 1940's and I just robbed it from the GAA Website.
(http://www.fennetec.com/gpa.jpg)
Strange that you have become paranoid about the GPA bud
I haven't become, I always have been.
And when I see, and did see and talk to some of the old boys who were mentors of junior and juvenile teams for years being forgotten about and nobody else coming through behind them and hurling being the poor relation in most every town and village in the country outside of Kilkenny and Tipp because football and paid managers as well as paid players is more lucrative and a bigger attraction I get even more paranoid. But that is for another days discussion, all I am saying is that if the Late Late Show wants to give the GAA an accolade by way of a Special on the GAA then that is what it should be, a special on the GAA and the GPA should have no part of it.
I am not saying that Dessie Farrell should have no part of it, or indeed that Mickey Harte should throw a shoe at him, but if he is on it he should be there to reflect on his achievements as a Dublin footballer and not as a rep for the GPA.
TG4 are doing a documentary series on the gaa over the next few weeks on Sunday afternoons with repeats Friday night, should put RTE in the ha'penny place as usual.
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 08, 2009, 12:58:13 PM
TG4 are doing a documentary series on the gaa over the next few weeks on Sunday afternoons with repeats Friday night, should put RTE in the ha'penny place as usual.
Indeed, credit where it is due.
Aint it fierce hard to get a row going these days?
Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 08, 2009, 01:24:30 PM
Aint it fierce hard to get a row going these days?
Go into Fitzpatricks Bar in Ballyragget some night and slag off a Kilkenny hurler,Usually works :)
Yeah, or report a fish kill on the Erkina and the guy from the council rings me up to ask 'what was I doing on the river at this time of year in the first place?' As if..
Another one that used to work for us was asking the Durrow boys that did they think by wearing Black & Amber jerseys they actually thought they were in Kilkenny, used to drive the Sheppards, Scott and Paddy Flynn mad.
Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 08, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
Yeah, or report a fish kill on the Erkina and the guy from the council rings me up to ask 'what was I doing on the river at this time of year in the first place?' As if..
Another one that used to work for us was asking the Durrow boys that did they think by wearing Black & Amber jerseys they actually thought they were in Kilkenny, used to drive the Sheppards, Scott and Paddy Flynn mad.
Ah the auld black and amber Durrow jersey,that brings back a few memories,I still have a few them old jersey's my Uncles wore in the attic at home,My Ma use to wash them for the team back in the late 70's,In fairness it was better than the red and yellow monstrosity they wear now.
That really was a bit of a strange turn you took there Bud.
No mention of Dessie or the GPA quickly turned into a rant. Whatever your views about them that came a little outta left field
Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 08, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
I am not saying ... that Mickey Harte should throw a shoe at him (Dessie)
Why not?
(Doing my best to help you to get the row going).
Weird
QuoteWhy not?
He'd miss, unless it was held in Croker in September.
Quote from: Hardy on January 08, 2009, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 08, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
I am not saying ... that Mickey Harte should throw a shoe at him (Dessie)
Why not?
(Doing my best to help you to get the row going).
Because in our society its not a big enough insult.
Ahern & Saw Doctors for Late Late Show
The former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern and The Saw Doctors will be joining Pat Kenny tonight for special edition of 'The Late Late Show'.
Tonight's show, which will celebrate the 125th anniversary of the founding of the GAA, will also feature Sean Óg O hAilpín and the Artane Boys and Girls Band.
Other well-known faces and lovers of the games will be on hand for a show that promises to be rich in anecdote and song. Dara O'Briain, Oliver Callan of Nob Nation, Brush Shields and Tommy Fleming will be in studio.
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Joining the party will be the most star-studded assembly ever of legends of the games including Kevin Heffernan, Jimmy Barry-Murphy, Babs Keating, Dermot Earley, Eddie Keher, Mick O'Dwyer, Henry Shefflin, Peter Canavan, Jamsie O'Connor, Colm Cooper, Padraic Joyce and Sean Og O hAlpin.
You can watch this special show tonight at 9.30pm on RTÉ One
Guaranteed some cringeworthy viewing but hopefully will be a good show
QuoteSean Óg O hAilpín and the Artane Boys and Girls Band.
What are they going to sing?
Not a Meath-man on the panal, feckin disgrace I tell ya.
QuoteNot a Meath-man on the panal, feckin disgrace I tell ya.
Sure don't we have to listen to O'Rourke all feckin summer - Is that not enough for ye ;)
I'd have thought the herbal doctor would make an appearance though
Quote from: thejuice on January 09, 2009, 02:31:28 PM
QuoteSean Óg O hAilpín and the Artane Boys and Girls Band.
What are they going to sing?
Money, Money, Money
Can someone explain why the Saw Doctors get to take a swing out of every GAA occasion? Is it because they're seen as bog-hip, or something?
(Explanatory note for Nordies - you probably know them as the Seen Doctors).
Because of "to win just once" and "will galway bate mayo?" i presume
Isn't Dara O'Briain always making wee digs at the GAA and is a self-confessed rugger fan? Bit strange him being on the show then.
Quote from: ziggysego on January 09, 2009, 06:52:42 PM
Isn't Dara O'Briain always making wee digs at the GAA and is a self-confessed rugger fan? Bit strange him being on the show then.
I think he played underage hurling for Wicklow did he not ???
I could be totally wrong mind....
QuoteIsn't Dara O'Briain always making wee digs at the GAA and is a self-confessed rugger fan? Bit strange him being on the show then.
Definitely not - hates rugby calls it crazy golf with a strange shaped ball and slags the ladyboys of D4 at every opportunity. Definite GAA background but not sure if he represented Wickla
Yeah I heard he played underage for Wicklow hurlers.
Ah well, I stand corrected then :)
Good start though Kenny still a balax.
Did Bertie say he seen dublin play down in an all ireland final in the 60s?
what code was that in??
Nickey Brennan's sleeping.
Quote from: stiffler on January 09, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
Did Bertie say he seen dublin play down in an all ireland final in the 60s?
what code was that in??
He did.
No northerners 15 mins in.
Sycophantic shite.
Paidi looks peeved too.
Ireland without the gaa is like a pub with no beer
Aw Jaysus is this a Dub-a-thon?
what was that text number for the competition again?
51771. Don't think Kenny knows what they're talking about.
Part 1: as a triangle with a straight side:
N17
Bertie
Eamon
Shefflin frowning
Paidi maybe unhappy
Dooher picking out of neb
Brennan Sleeping as Kelly strokes beard
Great side parting from Kenny as Northern phoneline jammed.
jet leg for king henry
Is thon Shefflin's bird?
would ye?
Paidi is too or has serious wind.
Feckin Islay's coming out now.
Dooher by name and nature.
Jays Dooher, dour.
at least kenny's shut up for a bit
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2009, 10:16:13 PM
Jays Dooher, dour.
Looks Dooher has put on some weight
This fella's dying...
Time for this 'impersonator' to finish up I think.
Quote from: AFS on January 09, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Who on earth that thought this boy with his impersonations was a good idea?
I just turned it over to that sausage jockey, about as funny as piles.
major dickhead
Stevie McDonnell has no tie. Typical.
:o Pat having a go at the Catholic Church!
That couldn't be Lyster's women surely?
How does D'arcy do it??
front row again
Brush Sheils, ah shite!
Quote from: FermGael on January 09, 2009, 10:29:58 PM
How does D'arcy do it??
front row again
Thought the very same myself :D
Love Brushs Jacket!
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 10:31:04 PM
I want one of those Ireland leather jackets.
by the way what the fu is he doing on ???
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2009, 10:32:10 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 09, 2009, 10:29:58 PM
How does D'arcy do it??
front row again
Thought the very same myself :D
Love Brushs Jacket!
Pat is been Pat . what moment will they choose surely 1982 .
1978 - Kerry V Dublin
Mickey's chip
He just kicked the ball into an empty net.
Quote from: comethekingdom on January 09, 2009, 10:37:50 PM
1978 - Kerry V Dublin
He is some scut .,there are all the Dubs sitting in the audience and he rubs it in
Is Con that old boy with the glasses?!!
Quote from: johnpower on January 09, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: comethekingdom on January 09, 2009, 10:37:50 PM
1978 - Kerry V Dublin
He is some scut .,there are all the Dubs sitting in the audience and he rubs it in
That's our boy - Pat! Sicken them!
Looks like they are trying to get their own back with the Apre Match thing.
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: Sligoper on January 09, 2009, 10:41:09 PM
Is Con that old boy with the glasses?!!
Heff
Wasnt sure was it heff or Con! Thanx
How is Darcy front row. Jesus Christ!!!!.................................got him tickets ;D
Shefflin obviously does pretty well off the pitch too, the bugger!
Too much 26 stuff. This should be about the Ulster GAA!
Quote from: ziggysego on January 09, 2009, 10:47:04 PM
Too much 26 stuff. This should be about the Ulster GAA!
its not UTV ziggy ;)
Bit of a chance putting Boylan and Harte together!
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
Bit of a chance putting Boylan and Harte together!
Why do they not like each other ?
pay your licence fee and you can have a say
Soon as I posted it, I was fuccck. Is this programme about Dublin?
This is the stuff, sweet music.
Just spotted Henry's bird, gurantee if she wa a hound they wouldnt have let her sit there"
They have really pushed hte boat out with the performers tonight.
Brush sheils shouldnt be let near a telly camera again, f**king hell, murdering it
Darcy's enjoying himself.
cat
What a plank
Quote from: ziggysego on January 09, 2009, 10:54:16 PM
Soon as I posted it, I was fuccck. Is this programme about Dublin?
Sure isn't Dublin the dogs bollocks?
Is he on something?
Pity Darragh O Se didn't rearrange Kenny's face for him when he showed him the picture of Dooher lifting Sam.
Not sure if I'll be able for Des, can't be worse than Brush
Quote from: comethekingdom on January 09, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 09, 2009, 10:54:16 PM
Soon as I posted it, I was fuccck. Is this programme about Dublin?
Sure isn't Dublin the dogs bollocks?
Do you Kerry boys play rounders??
I have just watched the last 10 minutes of what I'd describe as drivel.
Now Brush Shiels on stage, they can't be serious, this is beyond embarrassing
These shows, with the all-star audience and all that, are always cringeworthy. But with Pat Kenny it fails to reach those heights.
Steven McDonnell has a hairy chest
Where's Jane Adams?
Quote from: muppet on January 09, 2009, 11:00:53 PM
These shows, with the all-star audience and all that, are always cringeworthy. But with Pat Kenny it fails to reach those heights.
I agree they need to widen out this discussion
Paidi really doesnt wanna be there does he?
Paidi is definitely full to the gills
Its like, "oh, you'll never guess who likes the GAA" and pull some lug out of no-where. then theres these aul lads going on about the GAA being "sexy" , feelin a bit sick.
Typical.
An hour and a half of it and they spent about an hour and twenty minutes talking about Dublin and football. Typical Dublin bias.
Poor man, didn't get to see Saturday Night Fever. Sober up son, no cursing.
I wasn't expectin much but this is a slight bit better than what I was expecting, still sub-standard
Paidi threw a nice f**k in there
Paidi s wrote! fair play to him :D
Who is the blonde behind jacko?
You can't talk about shit on the gaaboard but you can say f**k on the late late show, go figure
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 09, 2009, 11:07:02 PM
Who is the blonde behind jacko?
i think steve mcdonnell is giving Cora a go. He's opened the top button, show her the chest hair!
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 09, 2009, 11:07:02 PM
Who is the blonde behind jacko?
Plunkett Donaghy. You would.
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 09, 2009, 11:07:02 PM
Who is the blonde behind jacko?
At a second look. It's Cora. You wouldn't.
There's only one conclusion to be drawn there HS. Marcello Lippi was on about ye boys during the week
So far we know that football is about Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone and Dublin.
Hurling is Kilkenny, Henry, Babs and Kilkenny.
The Gaa stars are Bertie, Brush, Eileen Dunne and Eamon Dunphy.
At least the comedian realised that there is a wider audience.
shes the best forward Mayo have
The irish woman are fond of an orange face. I can personally testify that Sambo brought joy to the north during the Troubles.
Is Pat Kenny a special guest with Des presenting? Probably a better way to have it
Good man Des, getting the show away Dublin and Kerry.
Its not often I agree with Reillers but hurling seems to have been relegated to the same level as handball and rounders
Back to Dublin :(
Did any of ye notice earlier that when the comedian referred to the camogie and ladies footballers being lesbians, the camera panned straight to cora staunton who cast her eyes to heaven.
priceless
Peter Quinn is given another view Mickey Harte looks bored as hell
Here come Sean O
Nordies getting a wee mention now at last thank God!
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 09, 2009, 11:15:24 PM
Its not often I agree with Reillers but hurling seems to have been relegated to the same level as handball and rounders
sure anyone can play football
that northy lad should come with sub titles
Quote from: whassupp2 on January 09, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Did any of ye notice earlier that when the comedian referred to the camogie and ladies footballers being lesbians, the camera panned straight to cora staunton who cast her eyes to heaven.
priceless
Saw that, the producer is as big a twat as the comedian but Cora's reaction was brilliant.
Imagine if the comedian said all hurlers were faggots and then the camera zooms in on Henry Shefflin.
christ my mobile is ringing, pats on the other end...........
Quote from: whassupp2 on January 09, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Did any of ye notice earlier that when the comedian referred to the camogie and ladies footballers being lesbians, the camera panned straight to cora staunton who cast her eyes to heaven.
priceless
I got a DVD out but when i say this was on i changed my mine. Thinking i should have stuck with the DVD.
Quote from: muppet on January 09, 2009, 11:18:47 PM
Quote from: whassupp2 on January 09, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Did any of ye notice earlier that when the comedian referred to the camogie and ladies footballers being lesbians, the camera panned straight to cora staunton who cast her eyes to heaven.
priceless
Saw that, the producer is as big a t**t as the comedian but Cora's reaction was brilliant.
Imagine if the comedian said all hurlers were faggots and then the camera zooms in on Henry Shefflin.
Agree completely Muppet, awful stuff really but funny for her reaction! Sean Og's a right legend in fairness, longest running broadcast programme in the world, in fairness
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:19:58 PM
Tell him you just want the money.
na it was just POG looking for something he craw........
PART 3 IN INVERSE TRIANGLE FORM
Harte's bored.
Paidi's plastered
Kenny's still a balax.
Bring back Saw Docs
Peter Quinn is ventriliquist
Ardbeg blows the head clean off.
slurp....
Was Pat not very quick to cut across Peter Quinn as he was relaying some of the tragedies members in the North suffered, 'ah sure Peter thats in the past lets not talk about that'
Brush Shiels wasted 10 minutes of the programme that could have been better spent with some more anecdotes from true legends of the game.
All in all though a good show.
Pat plugging a series that will do the GAA a much better service, on TG4
Fair play to Sean Og longest running radio show in the world. I would prefer if they brought up informative guests and had discussions on the history and issues instead of these box of tools their bringing on, talking about the craic they had and shite like that. Presidents might be interesting
No sign of Michaela yet.
whats all this Parish stuff they keep banging on about
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:25:53 PM
The drink, the first taste, the smokey texture........
Smokey. This gear is longed ash. Pure nectar.
Quote from: ziggysego on January 09, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Steven McDonnell has a hairy chest
Noticed that!! Very nice indeed.
Did everyone enter the competition then??
aye shes busy doing celebrity daughter on tg4
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:28:23 PM
Brennan never changes his tune. What a bore.
Pure media whore. As is Dooher and the Northern crew. The protestant work ethic has ruined our personality.
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:28:23 PM
Brennan never changes his tune. What a bore.
id say he likes going to funerals
I'm not one to judge too quick, but Cooney doesn't inspire a load of confidence with his buzzwords
Quote from: milltown row on January 09, 2009, 11:27:46 PM
whats all this Parish stuff they keep banging on about
He played Junior B with Boston.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 09, 2009, 11:30:48 PM
I'm not one to judge too quick, but Cooney doesn't inspire a load of confidence with his buzzwords
Clone
Clone
Clone
BORED!!!
:(
Oh Nickeys off!!
Cooney just repeated the same spiel about the challenges facing the GAA as Brennan, uh oh
my phone is ringion............itd pat
Tony must be gutted
An Ulster winner, that should keep ye boys happy
Ah crap phone didn't ring how disappointing :(
Must be a landline she was on as you never get mobile coverage in Cavan
I hate pat kenny!
i'm off to CAVAN see you soon Oral oops sorry Orla
Kenny is just awful.
JFK: Ich bin ein B...
Plank: That's nice John, how is Jackie getting on?
JPII: Young people of Ireland, I...
Plank: Lovely, do ya miss the football Pope?
Glad to hear Scór getting a mention...literally a mention though...
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 09, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
Must be a landline she was on as you never get mobile coverage in Cavan
Plus its cheaper off a landline, I think that would be the clincher
Here we go. The gpa discussion!
That was quick! Jesus yet another excited competition winner!
Not a totter for the audience tonight, at least Gaybo gave out Big Tom cassettes for everyone
Where do they get them?
IMO Tommy Flemming is what Mugsy is going to look like when he's that age...
Good man Tommy F!!
First time i sligo man has said anyhting all evening ;D ;D
More clips, less talk maybe.
the Antrim man in this song might not make it
As was said earlier in this thread, it will be TG4 who we'll have to rely on for a decent tribute. Dire effort
Check out our man. ffs
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on January 09, 2009, 11:36:25 PM
Where do they get them?
In all good record shops and some bad ones.
t**ker Tits Armagh!!
Carlow jersey still the worst by a long way
Tommy and the Artane Boys for Eurovision, what a match up.
Aye, he'll be home before dawn
Good idea to start the series with the kerry and dublin feature.
what two counties are they focussing on next week?
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:39:02 PM
Without this board that would have been shit.
Not even the board redemmed the show
its as good as over and what a load of shite. In summary.
- Contrary to popular belief the GAA was not founder in 1884 but sometime in the 70's, since the late late never spoke of anything earlier than that in any detail.
- There are most likely only two teams in Ireland, Dublin and Kerry.
- The 70's were brilliant
- It has not been fully clarified but I think there is a game called hurling that is part of the GAA.
- Brush shields is a tool of the highest calibre and is so short of talent he should be in westlife.
I should have known it would be like this. I have much better hopes for TG4 show.
and county jerseys definitely weren't made with those singers in mind. Lagging jackets would be a better fit on some of them
That was such a waste of 2 f**king hours. Lets get a load of legends and current stars and lets not talk to them., get a few of our RTÉ pals on here instead. Desperate stuff.
Why, when watching this, do i fail to recognise the association I know and love. It all seems alien to me. The same people wheeled out time after time. BORING. OUT OF TOUCH WITH GRASS ROOTS.
The same few oul RTE favourites telling the same oul tales.
A typical tired oul jaded RTE effort.
That Station needs to do a clear out and bring in some fresh faces.
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 09, 2009, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:39:02 PM
Without this board that would have been shit.
Not even the board redemmed the show
Ach I thought it was good craic posting on here about it.
Ah ur right, just thought it might come up to som sort of standard and might immprove as it went on, was obviously wrong
125 years = obtuse or acute?
Saw Doctor
Bertie Ahern
Eamon Dunphy
Pat Kenny's hair
Brush Shield's jacket
Pat Spillane's moment
Muted talking heads in audience.
Pure dung, RTE.
It was lovely to hear Pat talk about walking on air when he passed that exam though, my glass eye wept
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 09, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
It was lovely to hear Pat talk about walking on air when he passed that exam though, my glass eye wept
Ha ha, my thoughts exactly. Such a moment to refer to. Spillane was easily the best man to sum up the GAA, everyone else was either outside the loop or can't express themselves (thru beer in Paidi's case)
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
And what about the aul gaeilge? Or lack of?
Who gives a f**k? ;)
You just knew Spillane wanted to tell Brush to shut the f**k up or else O'Rourke would eat his hat
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 09, 2009, 11:43:09 PM
The same few oul RTE favourites telling the same oul tales.
A typical tired oul jaded RTE effort.
That Station needs to do a clear out and bring in some fresh faces.
And what about the aul gaeilge? Or lack of?
Or thoul hurlin or thoul rounders or thoul liathróid láimhe.
Buíochas le Dia as ucht TG4.
brush sounded like a senile old man trying to undermine Spillane's selection for the sake of, ahem, humour
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
And what about the aul gaeilge? Or lack of?
Michael O'Muireheartaigh said agus once
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Are you one bit surprised?
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on January 09, 2009, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:47:27 PM
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on January 09, 2009, 11:46:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
And what about the aul gaeilge? Or lack of?
Who gives a f**k? ;)
You're not Irish.
Oh yes I am.
Not if you can't speak or dont love Gaeilge.
An Ghaeilge Abú.
Good to See Dermot wearing the blue and gold tie. The Lillies havent corrupted him yet.
not to worry lads film 4 has trainspotting on now, a dublin film based in Scotland
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on January 09, 2009, 11:49:24 PM
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Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
And what about the aul gaeilge? Or lack of?
Who gives a f**k? ;)
You're not Irish.
Oh yes I am.
Not according to Rossfan.
Anyway, BBC2, now, something about Tommy Freeman playing a match in Moortown.
???
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Its the Late Late FFS its been like that for years, just don't take it too serious and it was ok, as said previously TG4 will provide everyone with what they want. Though I really wanted Brush to do all the verses of the Fields of Athenry. Wonder can TG4 sort that for their show? If he does it in Irish that will keep everyone happy here too.
A sad offering, just about what I expected with Plank Kenny in the driving seat! Iwonder was he ever at a GAA match- I doubt it.
I believe the TG4 series is good.
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
And feck all hurling.
They talked more about soccer then they did about hurling..all and all they spent about 5 minutes briefly mentioning hurling. And mentioned being..they talked to Babs, for about 10 seconds, Shefflin for about 5 seconds, and that was pretty much it.
Disgrace, biased Dublin idiots.
Wasted opportunity.
This thread at least made me laugh a few times.
That programme was awful. Truly awful.
It's good to to see a whole show dedicated to the GAA, but it could've been better.
The GAA is more than inter-county football, and there was a big emphasis on Dublin and Kerry in particular. I would've liked to have seen features on things like underage coaching, challenges in urban areas, growth of ladies games, handball, the role of the GAA in the community, scor, the Irish language and Gaeltacht championships, a brief history of the GAA from that Thurles initiation through to the civil war then to the 60's or 70's, etc.
Quote from: The Voice Of Reason on January 09, 2009, 11:58:18 PM
It's good to to see a whole show dedicated to the GAA, but it could've been better.
The GAA is more than inter-county football, and there was a big emphasis on Dublin and Kerry in particular. I would've liked to have seen features on things like underage coaching, challenges in urban areas, growth of ladies games, handball, the role of the GAA in the community, scor, the Irish language and Gaeltacht championships, a brief history of the GAA from that Thurles initiation through to the civil war then to the 60's or 70's, etc.
Someone never told Pat Kenny that.
There's this sport called hurling....
Quote from: Reillers on January 09, 2009, 11:57:03 PM
And feck all hurling.
They talked more about soccer then they did about hurling..all and all they spent about 5 minutes briefly mentioning hurling. And mentioned being..they talked to Babs, for about 10 seconds, Shefflin for about 5 seconds, and that was pretty much it.
Sure they compared Shefflin to Ronaldo.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 09, 2009, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Are you one bit surprised?
Nope but I had hoped against hope for something more,I mean you would think that anyone with a feel for the GAA and some notion of what entertainment is would put together something better than that. I really didn't think it would be quite as bad as that, I shudder to think what any non GAA fan made of it.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 09, 2009, 11:54:14 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Its the Late Late FFS its been like that for years, just don't take it too serious and it was ok, as said previously TG4 will provide everyone with what they want. Though I really wanted Brush to do all the verses of the Fields of Athenry. Wonder can TG4 sort that for their show? If he does it in Irish that will keep everyone happy here too.
Are you saying you want Brush Sheils to be on the TG4 show, are you on drugs? I wish he sang no verses, I wish he fucked off as soon as he opened his mouth.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 09, 2009, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Are you one bit surprised?
Aye but the disappointing thing is they had some great people in the audience to make a show of it but they decided to make it dublin/kerry love-in for an hour. Yer man Sean Og should have a programme made just about him and his stories and reflections on how the country and association has changed in the 70 odd years since he started. No, lets get Nicky Brennan on to be non-commital and bore the tits off everyone!
Quote from: thejuice on January 10, 2009, 12:03:13 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 09, 2009, 11:54:14 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Its the Late Late FFS its been like that for years, just don't take it too serious and it was ok, as said previously TG4 will provide everyone with what they want. Though I really wanted Brush to do all the verses of the Fields of Athenry. Wonder can TG4 sort that for their show? If he does it in Irish that will keep everyone happy here too.
Are you saying you want Brush Sheils to be on the TG4 show, are you on drugs? I wish he sang no verses, I wish he fucked off as soon as he opened his mouth.
Yeah i'm his biggest fan, got all his hats and coats, well after Sean Boylan - its him that gives me the dru..sorry 'herbal remedies'
remember its repeated at 1am tuesday night if you alll want to relive that glorious celebration of the GAA again
It wasnt great but to be fair there would have been people on here complaining about it no matter what it was like. Not sure exactly what you's were expecting from a 2 hour late late show.
Quote from: Zulu on January 10, 2009, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 09, 2009, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 09, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Rubbish comedian, rubbish music, same old stories from same old people, no features looking at different aspects of the games around the country, no feature about the work being done outside the country (though mentioned by Nickey), no mention of the growth of the women's games. No imagination, tired, clichéd, formulaic and very disappointing.
Are you one bit surprised?
Nope but I had hoped against hope for something more,I mean you would think that anyone with a feel for the GAA and some notion of what entertainment is would put together something better than that. I really didn't think it would be quite as bad as that, I shudder to think what any non GAA fan made of it.
I reckon any non Gah person wouldn't have been as put off as those of us who know a bit. Ignorance is bliss, they prob don't know what a disservice the late late did to the association. Like you I had hopes that something good could be put together but realised at the end I had been kidding myself . . .
What a pity...It had so much potential but as usual a balls was made of it.
Dublin...Kerry...The 70's...blah blah f'n blah! (fair play to all involved...hats off and all that kinda thing, but newsflash RTE...there are a few other counties who have togged out the odd time as well!)
Eamonn Dunphy? Anne Doyle? The Brush??!...surely to god there were about 50 people in the audience that were more qualified to talk a bit, and would've had something interesting to say!
Roll on the tg4 series...at least we'll get a look at something more representative of the whole association throughout the last 125 years.
Overall verdict? Rubbidge.
I have recorded it as I missed the first part.
However can someone remind me who Brush Shields won his medals with.
To have him on (I have yet to see the Nob from Nob Nation but I assume he was a Nob) was a travesty.
And yes, there was too much Dublin v Kerry. Was there any mention of the great Cavan/Roscommon/Mayo teams of the 40s and 50s? Christy Ring/Mackey/Jack Lynch? Offaly in the early 70s? The Red Collier? Mick Higgins of Cavan and Longford fame. Me with my medal from 1 Nov 1984.
Bah! Humbug!
The wench in the LOngford jersey looked fit. Waaaar!
The muppets should be in the audience and the stars in front of them, not the other way round as it was tonight.
Should have turned it off when the woman turned around and said that "they're focussing a lot on the big teams aren't they?" Only for Des Cahill trying to steer it a bit towards the end it would have been a total waste of time. And I think I spotted a new Westmeath jersey in the choir, if that red hared fcuker would have got his mop out of the way it would have been a help. Current jersey is discounted on gaastore so the must be a new one on the way. So it wasn't a total waste after all... Hope the fireworks are better...
Was shocked to see that clown Dunphy coming out as 1 of the 1st guests. Didnt realise he had any interest in the gaa but he did give it plenty of praise.
Not a bad effort - too much emphasis on Dublin and Kerry - the show got a bit disjointed at times - as Reillers says not enough hurling - I thought Oliver from nob nation was brilliant.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 10, 2009, 12:24:06 AM
Was shocked to see that clown Dunphy coming out as 1 of the 1st guests. Didnt realise he had any interest in the gaa but he did give it plenty of praise.
He's a rent-a-quote insincere guff merchant. He could spin the same shite if there was an Irish cricket or tiddlywinks love-in tomorrow.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 10, 2009, 12:10:13 AM
It wasnt great but to be fair there would have been people on here complaining about it no matter what it was like. Not sure exactly what you's were expecting from a 2 hour late late show.
Would agree with you.
The worst part though was that tool from nob nation he was brutal
Did anyone cop that impersonator saying, 'Sean Cavanagh, is that Ryan Mcmenamin in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?" i thought that was hilarious tho not really sure what he meant. Suprisinly I though Eammonn Dunphy spoke well and really undersatnds what the GAA is about. Yip, Peter Quinn was interupted when he went to say that many in south did not appreciate the situation in the north. Also Des Cahill was on satge to point out who was in the crowd for Pat who hadn't a clue. It was a poor show top heavy with Dubs-Kerry.
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Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
Did anyone cop that impersonator saying, 'Sean Cavanagh, is that Ryan Mcmenamin in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?" i thought that was hilarious tho not really sure what he meant. Suprisinly I though Eammonn Dunphy spoke well and really undersatnds what the GAA is about. Yip, Peter Quinn was interupted when he went to say that many in south did not appreciate the situation in the north. Also Des Cahill was on satge to point out who was in the crowd for Pat who hadn't a clue. It was a poor show top heavy with Dubs-Kerry.
Don't be so paranoid ::) all through the show many of the guests were cut across as they were speaking,I actually commented on it to my GF about it as I found it annoying,it wasn't just when Peter Quinn was talking
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Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
Did anyone cop that impersonator saying, 'Sean Cavanagh, is that Ryan Mcmenamin in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?" i thought that was hilarious tho not really sure what he meant. Suprisinly I though Eammonn Dunphy spoke well and really undersatnds what the GAA is about. Yip, Peter Quinn was interupted when he went to say that many in south did not appreciate the situation in the north. Also Des Cahill was on satge to point out who was in the crowd for Pat who hadn't a clue. It was a poor show top heavy with Dubs-Kerry.
Don't be so paranoid ::) all through the show many of the guests were cut across as they were speaking,I actually commented on it to my GF about it as I found it annoying,it wasn't just when Peter Quinn was talking
You are that it was happening the whole, for Pat hasn't a clue how to chair a show. In this case, it was a matter of getting the conversation away from the Troubles as quickly as possible.
Fair play to Des for saying that his favourite moments were seeing teams from the north like Derry, Armagh and Tyrone all win Sam for the first time.
I don't think Dunphy was insincere. He spoke of players in 50s with dublin and going to Parnell Park and Croke Park with his Dad... seemed genuine. Eileen Dunne got it 100% with her choice of 1980 hurling final. Was there and it was incredible and Joe McDonagh singing the wests awake. the west didnt get much of a mention tonight tho. Am I the only one thinks Sheehy's free is the most overhyped and overrated goal of all time?
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Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 12:40:16 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
Did anyone cop that impersonator saying, 'Sean Cavanagh, is that Ryan Mcmenamin in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?" i thought that was hilarious tho not really sure what he meant. Suprisinly I though Eammonn Dunphy spoke well and really undersatnds what the GAA is about. Yip, Peter Quinn was interupted when he went to say that many in south did not appreciate the situation in the north. Also Des Cahill was on satge to point out who was in the crowd for Pat who hadn't a clue. It was a poor show top heavy with Dubs-Kerry.
Don't be so paranoid ::) all through the show many of the guests were cut across as they were speaking,I actually commented on it to my GF about it as I found it annoying,it wasn't just when Peter Quinn was talking
You are that it was happening the whole, for Pat hasn't a clue how to chair a show. In this case, it was a matter of getting the conversation away from the Troubles as quickly as possible.
Fair play to Des for saying that his favourite moments were seeing teams from the north like Derry, Armagh and Tyrone all win Sam for the first time.
I think ye are just being paranoid about it to be honest..
Fecking Nordies always need to have a chip on their shoulders about something... :P
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 12:48:14 AM
I think ye are just being paranoid about it to be honest..
Fecking Nordies always need to have a chip on their shoulders about something... :P
Still carrying that grudge from when you left us with the English.... ;)
Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 12:45:46 AM
Fair play to Des for saying that his favourite moments were seeing teams from the north like Derry, Armagh and Tyrone all win Sam for the first time.
That's not quite what he said though was it. He was just trying to finish on an upnote after they shut up Peter Quinn - one of the very few people who had something worthwhile to say.
Weren't it? What was it then?
Quote from: An Laoch on January 10, 2009, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 12:45:46 AM
Fair play to Des for saying that his favourite moments were seeing teams from the north like Derry, Armagh and Tyrone all win Sam for the first time.
That's not quite what he said though was it. He was just trying to finish on an upnote after they shut up Peter Quinn - one of the very few people who had something worthwhile to say.
Peter forgot about the general atmosphere of back-slappery so they tried to rush him on. What he was going on to say was, it's alright talking about dublin and kerry in the 70's but they didn't have a war to fight ;)
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 12:48:14 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 12:45:46 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 12:40:16 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
Did anyone cop that impersonator saying, 'Sean Cavanagh, is that Ryan Mcmenamin in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?" i thought that was hilarious tho not really sure what he meant. Suprisinly I though Eammonn Dunphy spoke well and really undersatnds what the GAA is about. Yip, Peter Quinn was interupted when he went to say that many in south did not appreciate the situation in the north. Also Des Cahill was on satge to point out who was in the crowd for Pat who hadn't a clue. It was a poor show top heavy with Dubs-Kerry.
Don't be so paranoid ::) all through the show many of the guests were cut across as they were speaking,I actually commented on it to my GF about it as I found it annoying,it wasn't just when Peter Quinn was talking
You are that it was happening the whole, for Pat hasn't a clue how to chair a show. In this case, it was a matter of getting the conversation away from the Troubles as quickly as possible.
Fair play to Des for saying that his favourite moments were seeing teams from the north like Derry, Armagh and Tyrone all win Sam for the first time.
I think ye are just being paranoid about it to be honest..
Fecking Nordies always need to have a chip on their shoulders about something... :P
Spoken like a true West Brit!!
I remember the day after the Omagh bomb there was a big hurling game-All Ireland semi- in Croke park on the Sunday on 23rd of August. Not entirely sure who it was but two southern teams. The crowd were dancing and cheering while the north was in despair. It might has well have been Iraq as far as crowd in Croke park was concerned. Des Fahy wrote an article the next vday about it and how the ALL IRELAND game would have been called off if the atrcity had been in say Cork. In the press box he asked other reporters from the south if they felt unconmfortable with it and they shrugged their shoulders...so Real laois Lad maybe Peter Quinn did have a valid point!
And what the hell was Pat doing, laughing about people being made unemployed due to the recession at the start of the show? Outragous.
I'm being a bit pedantic ziggysego, but I dont think he used the word 'favourite', it was more of a 'now lets say something positive after hearing about the murder of GAA members in Ulster'.
I expect if Cahill was asked what his favourite GAA moment without the prior references to sickening acts in the north he would most likely talk about the Dubs.
hardstation, admittedly Peter Quinn was cut off early in his comments, but we could all see where he was going. Personally I would have liked to hear more from him and less from Brush, the comedian, Dunphy, Bertie, and Eileen Dunne.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 01:02:03 AM
I remember the day after the Omagh bomb there was a big hurling game-All Ireland semi- in Croke park on the Sunday on 23rd of August. Not entirely sure who it was but two southern teams. The crowd were dancing and cheering while the north was in despair. It might has well have been Iraq as far as crowd in Croke park was concerned. Des Fahy wrote an article the next vday about it and how the ALL IRELAND game would have been called off if the atrcity had been in say Cork. In the press box he asked other reporters from the south if they felt unconmfortable with it and they shrugged their shoulders...so Real laois Lad maybe Peter Quinn did have a valid point!
I never said he didn't have a point,where do you think I said that?
I was saying that he wasn't cut off because of what he said or what he was about to say,they were cutting people off all through the show as far as I could see.
Quote from: An Laoch on January 10, 2009, 01:03:17 AM
I'm being a bit pedantic ziggysego, but I dont think he used the word 'favourite', it was more of a 'now lets say something positive after hearing about the murder of GAA members in Ulster'.
Maybe you're right, my hearing's not the best. And prehaps if Quinn hadn't of said what he did, it would have been a Dublin memory.
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 01:02:03 AM
I remember the day after the Omagh bomb there was a big hurling game-All Ireland semi- in Croke park on the Sunday on 23rd of August. Not entirely sure who it was but two southern teams. The crowd were dancing and cheering while the north was in despair. It might has well have been Iraq as far as crowd in Croke park was concerned. Des Fahy wrote an article the next vday about it and how the ALL IRELAND game would have been called off if the atrcity had been in say Cork. In the press box he asked other reporters from the south if they felt unconmfortable with it and they shrugged their shoulders...so Real laois Lad maybe Peter Quinn did have a valid point!
I never said he didn't have a point,where do you think I said that?
I was saying that he wasn't cut off because of what he said or what he was about to say,they were cutting people off all through the show as far as I could see.
Laois ?? Kings County or Queens??
I don't think Quinn was cut off because he was saying something negative about the GAA and the north, moreso that he was just saying something that wasn't jockular and what Pat wanted from him.
I'm with Ziggy tho, the bit at the start where Pat tries to joke with Bertie about how some people mightn't be able to afford to pay into Croker next year. Bertie's laugh was a nervous one at least. But wtf would Kenny the highest earner in RTE know about how people are struggling? I felt like f**king the remote at the tv at that stage
Quote from: An Laoch on January 10, 2009, 01:03:17 AM
I expect if Cahill was asked what his favourite GAA moment without the prior references to sickening acts in the north he would most likely talk about the Dubs.
More paranoia if you ask me
Why you paranoid about us being paranoid LaoisLad?
Quote from: gorm agus bui on January 10, 2009, 01:06:17 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 01:02:03 AM
I remember the day after the Omagh bomb there was a big hurling game-All Ireland semi- in Croke park on the Sunday on 23rd of August. Not entirely sure who it was but two southern teams. The crowd were dancing and cheering while the north was in despair. It might has well have been Iraq as far as crowd in Croke park was concerned. Des Fahy wrote an article the next vday about it and how the ALL IRELAND game would have been called off if the atrcity had been in say Cork. In the press box he asked other reporters from the south if they felt unconmfortable with it and they shrugged their shoulders...so Real laois Lad maybe Peter Quinn did have a valid point!
I never said he didn't have a point,where do you think I said that?
I was saying that he wasn't cut off because of what he said or what he was about to say,they were cutting people off all through the show as far as I could see.
Laois ?? Kings County or Queens??
WTF? Catch a grip will ya, lad
Quote from: gorm agus bui on January 10, 2009, 01:06:17 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 01:02:03 AM
I remember the day after the Omagh bomb there was a big hurling game-All Ireland semi- in Croke park on the Sunday on 23rd of August. Not entirely sure who it was but two southern teams. The crowd were dancing and cheering while the north was in despair. It might has well have been Iraq as far as crowd in Croke park was concerned. Des Fahy wrote an article the next vday about it and how the ALL IRELAND game would have been called off if the atrcity had been in say Cork. In the press box he asked other reporters from the south if they felt unconmfortable with it and they shrugged their shoulders...so Real laois Lad maybe Peter Quinn did have a valid point!
I never said he didn't have a point,where do you think I said that?
I was saying that he wasn't cut off because of what he said or what he was about to say,they were cutting people off all through the show as far as I could see.
Laois ?? Kings County or Queens??
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything ???
not sure what's not to understand hardstation. I interpreted your comments that you were pissed off that Peter Quinn was cut off while making some of the more (the only?) substantial comments of the evening. That being the case, I'm on your side!
LaoisLad I am neither paranoid nor - if its relevant - from Ulster, just calling what I see.
Quote from: An Laoch on January 10, 2009, 01:14:30 AM
LaoisLad I am neither paranoid nor - if its relevant - from Ulster, just calling what I see.
As am I
Shut up the lot of ye. >:(
I'm tryin to sleep.
Was the board working OK for everyone then during the Late Late? I couldn't get on so presumed it was down.
Bit late at this stage but the show was rubbish to honest.
Brush the big eejit massacred the Fields of Athenry for a start and then the rest of the show was a big Dublin v Kerry love-in.
Plus Nicky Brennan and Christy Cooney provided the 15 most boring minutes of television RTE will screen all year but that bothers me less as it was expected.
Didnt get a chance to watch it properly cos I was in the club with yahoos throwing darts, palying pool and and gambling...
PO must have been twisted to come out with that shite...reminds of the boats in the harbour in South Africa ???
As someone said earlier Darragh would have been within his rights to smack Pat the Plank right on the smig for what he did with the photo...
He nearly did but Des should have had the gig...
I have it taped so look forward to whatever else happened....
BTW Keaveney is a fcukin legend
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I'm with Ziggy tho, the bit at the start where Pat tries to joke with Bertie about how some people mightn't be able to afford to pay into Croker next year. Bertie's laugh was a nervous one at least. But wtf would Kenny the highest earner in RTE know about how people are struggling? I felt like f**king the remote at the tv at that stage
What the f**k? Let me get this right, Pat Kenny and Bertie Aherne felt it appropriate to joke that people mightn't be able to afford to go to Croke park? Is it just me who's blood boils at the thought of that?
I would have turned over at that stage.
An old 20 pence piece.
A book of log tables.
A tax disc with 01-03 on it.
A spikey thing.
Something soft about the size of my thumb with hair on it.
These are the things I found last night when I went to hide behind the sofa when the brush came on.
I got the impression from Dunphy that Giles is a big gaa fan. Should have brought him on as a guest to.
Disappointed. Started off ok but just went down hill after that. At least Bertie talked about going to matches....Brush was trying to talk for about 10 minutes on Singing the fields of Athenry at Croker. He was emabarrasing,a disgrace that he was on.
Was Christy Ring mentioned?? Only one mention of Hurling in the Mid 90's( & the that was Pat Spillane would you believe).....no mention of Clare or Ger Loughnane, Offalys victories, Liam Griffin should have been on. They should have got somebody younger like Joe Canning or Tommy Walsh(Kerry) to talk about it means to the younger generation.
Alot of faults....you could go on for ages
No Sean Og O'hAilpin despite all the mention he got on RTE.ie
They should been talking to players and managers, grass roots folk, and showing clips. Who gives a shite what Brush, Eileen Dunne, Des Cahill, Eamon Dunphy or any of these clowns think. Or they might have got a few other current sport stars who have GAA roots like P. Harrington, a few of them rugby lads play a bit too. ALso perhaps some 'New' Irish lads who're playing with clubs or are just in some way involved in the GAA.
Would agree with the Galway man that this show was a big Dublin V Kerry love in. If the GAA is meant to appeal to all parishes throughout all Ireland why not talk to a Westmeath man about winning the All Ireland minor title or their recent Leinster title or a Leitrim man about their 94 Connacht title win & subsequent semi final in Croke Park, instead of Dublin, Dublin, Dublin. I mean kenny is a Dub, as is Brush, Eileen Dunne, bertie & Dunphy. The show simply did not represent people outside the pale, Kerry & Kilkenny adequately.
Quote from: thejuice on January 10, 2009, 11:53:08 AM
No Sean Og O'hAilpin despite all the mention he got on RTE.ie
They should been talking to players and managers, grass roots folk, and showing clips. Who gives a shite what Brush, Eileen Dunne, Des Cahill, Eamon Dunphy or any of these clowns think. Or they might have got a few other current sport stars who have GAA roots like P. Harrington, a few of them rugby lads play a bit too. ALso perhaps some 'New' Irish lads who're playing with clubs or are just in some way involved in the GAA.
Sure Des tried to get Conor O'Shea involved and Pat didn't have a clue who he was and as soon as Conor mentioned Jack O'Shea Pat cut him off mid sentence to speak to Jacko when Conor was actually relaying a good story. Pat has zero sporting knowledge (outside of soccer) and last night showed this clearly.
Quote from: gorm agus bui on January 10, 2009, 12:42:51 AM
Can some one explain to me what Brush Shiels has to do with the GAA, knows about the GAA, or indeed has to offer the GAA. What a plonker!!!
Mediocre show when it had the potential to be top class.
70s the Golden era??. Football became basketball and standard was brutal.Doesn't compare with the 60s( in its entirety) or the early 90s(91-94).
Total lack of respect given to hurling and handball.
He's from Dublin. Isn't he? Same as Dunphy, Eileen Dunne, Bertie........
I feel sorry for Henry. Imagine cutting your holiday short in Hawaii to sit listening to that sh@te.
At least he brought Deirdre along for all of us all though ;D
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I'm with Ziggy tho, the bit at the start where Pat tries to joke with Bertie about how some people mightn't be able to afford to pay into Croker next year. Bertie's laugh was a nervous one at least. But wtf would Kenny the highest earner in RTE know about how people are struggling? I felt like f**king the remote at the tv at that stage
What the f**k? Let me get this right, Pat Kenny and Bertie Aherne felt it appropriate to joke that people mightn't be able to afford to go to Croke park? Is it just me who's blood boils at the thought of that?
I would have turned over at that stage.
I wouldn't associate Bertie too much with it. Bertie was on about how when he was young he'd be lifted over the turnstiles in Croker and Kenny, trying to slag Bertie about the state he left the country in, says 'the way things are people mightn't be able to afford to pay in there next year' and then started laughing. Bertie laughed nervously and looked at Pat as if to say 'what the f**k are you playing at ya plonker'. It was crass from Kenny but what would you expect
There seemed to be very little hurling featured so i didnt persevere with it too long, in fairness it was a pile of sh*te.
I wouldn't associate Bertie with Kenny's 'terrific' sense of humour either. What could he do? He laughed nervously, but looked liked he wanted to lamp him one for being such an insensitive p***k.
yeah Henry and the wife must be gutted with cutting the holidays short for that pile of bollocks.
All in all I'd say there was good craic and stories in the pub after with all the legends there, now that would be something I'd have liked to have seen!
I'm not a big fan of Des Cahill but he should have anchored the show. As I thought mostly cringeworthy stuff with little or no mention of hurling. Pat really is brutal and as for Brush don't get me started. Didn't think Heffo looked well at all
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I'm with Ziggy tho, the bit at the start where Pat tries to joke with Bertie about how some people mightn't be able to afford to pay into Croker next year. Bertie's laugh was a nervous one at least. But wtf would Kenny the highest earner in RTE know about how people are struggling? I felt like f**king the remote at the tv at that stage
What the f**k? Let me get this right, Pat Kenny and Bertie Aherne felt it appropriate to joke that people mightn't be able to afford to go to Croke park? Is it just me who's blood boils at the thought of that?
I would have turned over at that stage.
I wouldn't associate Bertie too much with it. Bertie was on about how when he was young he'd be lifted over the turnstiles in Croker and Kenny, trying to slag Bertie about the state he left the country in, says 'the way things are people mightn't be able to afford to pay in there next year' and then started laughing. Bertie laughed nervously and looked at Pat as if to say 'what the f**k are you playing at ya plonker'. It was crass from Kenny but what would you expect
Ah ok fair enough but the sooner someone decks that p***k Kenny the better. Who does he think he is? He's quite possibility the worst presenter in the history of tv and he's lucky RTE are as shite as him or he'd be the one struggling to pay the mortgage.
I'm by no great shakes Des biggest fan either, but he was very good last night and knew a great deal more about the GAA than Kenny, FFS, Dunphy knew more!
Terrible show. Two hours i'll never see again.
Saw Doctors - predictable rubbish
Bertie - well at least he is a genuine GAA fan
Dunphy - an embarrassment, brown-nosing and playing to the crowd - should never have even been considered
Spillane - i'm nowhere near his number 1 fan, but he was actually one of the few positives last night
Eileen Dunne - at least she's a fan, but i'm sure they could have found someone more suitable
Brush Shiels - cringefest. He even said he doesn't go to the matches anymore. He's an embarrassment - i remember thinking the same when he came out before the IR in Croke Park a few years ago. His foolery during the fields of Athenry was ridiculous and so amateur
I'd like to have heard from some more players/ex-players - Peter Canavan sounded like he could have talked for a bit, Joe Brolly would have been some entertainment - i know they're both northern, they're just two who spring to mind, there are many others. Spillane was one of the few who actually worked last night.
Des Cahill was a positive i have to say. And effectively, he chaired the show when he came on.
All in all, very poor. RTÉ made no real effort to look outside of their own payoll.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:48:11 AM
Eileen Dunne got it 100% with her choice of 1980 hurling final. Was there and it was incredible and Joe McDonagh singing the wests awake. the west didnt get much of a mention tonight tho. Am I the only one thinks Sheehy's free is the most overhyped and overrated goal of all time?
I managed to watch 10 minutes of that shite before I feared for my sanity, the remote control and the TV.
It was indicative of the show that the clip did not include Joe actually singing The West Awake.
You are not alone in thinking Mikey Sheehy's goal is "the most overhyped and overrated goal of all time".
Was there a special deal going for the "GAA suit" is some shop?
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:48:11 AM
Eileen Dunne got it 100% with her choice of 1980 hurling final. Was there and it was incredible and Joe McDonagh singing the wests awake. the west didnt get much of a mention tonight tho. Am I the only one thinks Sheehy's free is the most overhyped and overrated goal of all time?
When I saw Eileen pick this I nearly jumped for joy. Lovely I thought, I'm finally going to see Connolly's speech and McDonagh's song in full on TV - and then they just show the first line of the speech. Clems. Cahill went up in my estimation after that. Him and Spillane were the best contributors. Heffernan and Keaveney were good. Saw Docs were good. There was lots in between. Then Brush was cringe city - saying he hadn't went to a game since 1992 - what a clem. And picking his moment just to get at Sean Boylan for a laugh, what a p***k. Oliver Callan managed to offend practically everyone and amuse very few and then quimcake number one, Plank Kenny. Not a clue about the subject matter. Embarrassing the way he showed Darragh O Se the picture of Dooher lifting Sam - lucky he didn't get a box. Cut so many boys with something good to say off, and then indulged people with little idea about the GAA. I know people can have varying opinions about presenters. Some loved Gaybo, some hated him. But he had a big following. Can the same be said of Kenny? Has he any fans at all? I doubt it
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Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 10, 2009, 12:48:11 AM
Eileen Dunne got it 100% with her choice of 1980 hurling final. Was there and it was incredible and Joe McDonagh singing the wests awake. the west didnt get much of a mention tonight tho. Am I the only one thinks Sheehy's free is the most overhyped and overrated goal of all time?
When I saw Eileen pick this I nearly jumped for joy. Lovely I thought, I'm finally going to see Connolly's speech and McDonagh's song in full on TV - and then they just show the first line of the speech. Clems. Cahill went up in my estimation after that. Him and Spillane were the best contributors. Heffernan and Keaveney were good. Saw Docs were good. There was lots in between. Then Brush was cringe city - saying he hadn't went to a game since 1992 - what a clem. And picking his moment just to get at Sean Boylan for a laugh, what a p***k. Oliver Callan managed to offend practically everyone and amuse very few and then quimcake number one, Plank Kenny. Not a clue about the subject matter. Embarrassing the way he showed Darragh O Se the picture of Dooher lifting Sam - lucky he didn't get a box. Cut so many boys with something good to say off, and then indulged people with little idea about the GAA. I know people can have varying opinions about presenters. Some loved Gaybo, some hated him. But he had a big following. Can the same be said of Kenny? Has he any fans at all? I doubt it
Am not a Dublin supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but that goal sickens me to the core. Was not a free to begin with & it says a lot about us Irish when we applaud a man scoring a goal from a free with the goalkeeper off his line in such circumstances. Unsporting & comparable to shooting ducks in a barrel. If I was Paddy Cullen I would have burried that c*nt Mikey Sheehy long ago. Any retard with wellyboots on would have scored that. Best gaa moment for me was years later when Darby gave those Kerry boys a taste of their own medicine.
Do you keep your ducks in a barrel?
That was a cringe-fest.
From the Artane Boys marching around Croke Park playing the N17, and Pat clapping along in studio.
The lack of hurling, the failure to even mention the likes of Micheal O Hehir.
Who was sitting in a Production meeting and thought - we must have Brush Shields - what the hell is he? Not a comedian. Not a musician. It was beyhond belief that he was there.
Oliver Callan is just not funny - a poor mans Mario Rosenstock. RTE think they are on to a winner there but then again they think they are on to a winner with Keeping Up Appearances.
I'm no Des Cahill fan but he was clearly there to try and pull the plank through the football talk.
Dara O'Se should have clocked him. Brian Dooher should have used a tissue. Mickey Harte would have been a perfect man for a panel. Peter Quinn had interesting things to say. The panels should have been made up of GAA people.
The more you see what RTE can do the more you just wonder.
And then Tommy Fleming - how does that man earn a living seeing. Even on the X Factor he would be torn to shreds.
worst show ever. worst presenter ever
should have beemed it live from the function rooms in Croker
had a bit more craic on it - features on the museum, scor, handball among others
Can anyone explain to me why the Reverend Darcy gets involved ins hows like these.
He seems to be where the action is all the time.
He was on the panel at the Joe Dolan Tribute show lately. Again in the front row last night.
Will never forget whenever Tyrone came back to Dungannon in 95 after the Dublin defeat in the AIF, Darcy got off the team bus. WHY???
Just a wee reminder lads that the show will be on again on Monday night!!!
Quote from: stephenite on January 08, 2009, 02:16:54 AM
Apparently there will be a late late show GAA Special for the 125 celebrations, if any kind soul with the appropriate technology would be willing to record this and post a DVD I'd be eternally grateful and pay for any p&p
Wouldn't bother if I was you Stephenite.
Stephenite, if it was a choice between watching that or being strapped to a chair (with your eyelids propped open by a piece of dried Roscommon turd) and forced to watch a recording of Mayo v Kerry AIF (with subliminal images of Pat Spillane grinning), you'd be a fool to select the former.
Quote from: Main Street on January 10, 2009, 05:22:41 PM
Stephenite, if it was a choice between watching that or being strapped to a chair (with your eyelids propped open by a piece of dried Roscommon turd) and forced to watch a recording of Mayo v Kerry AIF (with subliminal images of Pat Spillane grinning), you'd be a fool to select the former.
>:( :( :o :D Ah now that's pushing it just a tad.
Steaming pile of shite. Any chance we can send a partition into the Irish Government publicly disowning Brush Shields as being Irish? I could never understand this country's fascination with this guy. A guy of no talent in any capacity, yet he's on every farewell programme on RTE. Maybe its the only wage he gets.
Pat the plank is good on the radio, but I 'd love to meet whoever it was in RTE that thought he had a career in tv. Absolutely diabolical is the not the word for his presenting.
Those criticising RTE.....would you have expected anything else from them? Seriously, the level of creative output from RTE is shockingly poor. The lethargy in the organisation starts at the top and works its way down. Cathal Goan and co. have alot of questions to answer if last night is the best RTE can produce to mark the GAA and it's contribution to Irish society!
Poor interviewer, poor interviewees, poor entertainment.....I echo the remarks about Brush Shields...WTF!
As some other posters have said, some would complain whatever the show was or we shouldn't have expected anything more but as someone who never watches the Late Late I was surprised (to say the least) by how inept the whole show was, these people are getting paid to entertain the nation and this is what they come up with.
What was the show meant to be? I would have thought a celebration of the GAA over the last 125 years and its role in Irish life during that time.
So why was the show primarily about the Dublin V Kerry 1970's rivalry, I mean the GAA has done massive research to collate information about itself for this years celebration so RTE must have a huge amount of information at its finger tips. It also has all the televised games and I presume much of the radio stuff in its achieves why was so little used?
For the craic I'll suggest a few things that would have been an improvement on last night, and this from someone with no experience in this sphere.
Music: get some of the best and most famous traditional musicians from around the 4 provinces to play 2 or 3 rousing and/or evocative tunes while showing montages of GAA life - one evoking the playing history of the GAA and its development, one showing the GAA and the problems it has faced e.g. the troubles, civil war etc. and one showing the GAA today, e.g footage from GAA activities abroad, kids celebrating underage wins, GAA and the immigrant community. We'd get good music and a concise view of what the GAA means and how it has developed over the 125 years of its existence.
Comedy: Have Des Bishop, Tommy Tiernan, Kielty and/or Dara O'Brian in the audience and ask 2 of them about their experience with the GAA. They'd probably raise a laugh with a story or two and are all genuinely connected to the GAA. I'm not a big fan of some of them myself but it would play to a fairly wide audience, no one could have found yer man funny last night.
Do 2 or 3 features or reports on for example, the womens game, the club game, scor, handball, the work being done with the immigrant community, the schools game.
Pick the guests you are going to speak to more carefully, with respect to Shefflin, Dooher and O'Se we have and will hear their clichéd riddled view point about last year and their chances next year a thousand times before. Why not interview clubmen involved during the troubles, someone alive who played in an AI in the 20's or 30's, someone involved with promoting the game in foreign countries, the GAA is in schools in Britain and Canada (at least) and many wouldn't know this.
I'm sure many of you could come up with other ideas and some might disagree with some of the ones I have proposed but the point is, I could come up with the above with little thought or effort yet RTE's flagship entertainment show, celebrating the 125th anniversary of the biggest and most important organization in the country put little effort in, showed no imagination and scant regard for either the GAA or the Late Late's television audience.
Who was responsible for that?
Would've been great to get oul fellas on who could recall games from 70/60 years ago - that type of thing.
Quote from: ONeill on January 10, 2009, 06:49:26 PM
Who was responsible for that?
Would've been great to get oul fellas on who could recall games from 70/60 years ago - that type of thing.
Exactly. I bought a book today called The Book Of Poor Ould Fellas. It's brilliant. Get it.
QuoteMusic: get some of the best and most famous traditional musicians from around the 4 provinces to play 2 or 3 rousing and/or evocative tunes while showing montages of GAA life - one evoking the playing history of the GAA and its development, one showing the GAA and the problems it has faced e.g. the troubles, civil war etc. and one showing the GAA today, e.g footage from GAA activities abroad, kids celebrating underage wins, GAA and the immigrant community. We'd get good music and a concise view of what the GAA means and how it has developed over the 125 years of its existence.
Or alternatively get Declan Nerney on to sing the Ballad of John Joe O'Reilly and the fella who wrote the song about Cormac McAnallen (the Branty Boy?) could sing that as well.
Mickey Coleman.
the late late show is a mass appeal light entertainment show, thats all. last night was very good imo but obviously a light entertainment show can barely scratch the fringes of what an organisation like the gaa is all about. some of ye need to get a grip and give up the gripe ;D
Quote from: magickingdom on January 10, 2009, 08:13:07 PM
the late late show is a mass appeal light entertainment show, thats all. last night was very good imo but obviously a light entertainment show can barely scratch the fringes of what an organisation like the gaa is all about. some of ye need to get a grip and give up the gripe ;D
You just don't get it magickingdom. Even as a "mass appeal light entertainment show" it was sh@te.
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Quote from: magickingdom on January 10, 2009, 08:13:07 PM
the late late show is a mass appeal light entertainment show, thats all. last night was very good imo but obviously a light entertainment show can barely scratch the fringes of what an organisation like the gaa is all about. some of ye need to get a grip and give up the gripe ;D
You just don't get it magickingdom. Even as a "mass appeal light entertainment show" it was sh@te.
get out of it! there was loads of kerrymen on and micky sheehys goal was shown a few times (and darby the bolix hardly got a mention) ;)
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Quote from: magickingdom on January 10, 2009, 08:13:07 PM
the late late show is a mass appeal light entertainment show, thats all. last night was very good imo but obviously a light entertainment show can barely scratch the fringes of what an organisation like the gaa is all about. some of ye need to get a grip and give up the gripe ;D
You just don't get it magickingdom. Even as a "mass appeal light entertainment show" it was sh@te.
get out of it! there was loads of kerrymen on and micky sheehys goal was shown a few times (and darby the bolix hardly got a mention) ;)
And Pat Spillane saying you'll probably accuse me of bias...or something similar :D
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
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Eileen Dunne got it 100% with her choice of 1980 hurling final. Was there and it was incredible and Joe McDonagh singing the wests awake. the west didnt get much of a mention tonight tho. Am I the only one thinks Sheehy's free is the most overhyped and overrated goal of all time?
When I saw Eileen pick this I nearly jumped for joy. Lovely I thought, I'm finally going to see Connolly's speech and McDonagh's song in full on TV - and then they just show the first line of the speech. Clems. Cahill went up in my estimation after that. Him and Spillane were the best contributors. Heffernan and Keaveney were good. Saw Docs were good. There was lots in between. Then Brush was cringe city - saying he hadn't went to a game since 1992 - what a clem. And picking his moment just to get at Sean Boylan for a laugh, what a p***k. Oliver Callan managed to offend practically everyone and amuse very few and then quimcake number one, Plank Kenny. Not a clue about the subject matter. Embarrassing the way he showed Darragh O Se the picture of Dooher lifting Sam - lucky he didn't get a box. Cut so many boys with something good to say off, and then indulged people with little idea about the GAA. I know people can have varying opinions about presenters. Some loved Gaybo, some hated him. But he had a big following. Can the same be said of Kenny? Has he any fans at all? I doubt it
Am not a Dublin supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but that goal sickens me to the core. Was not a free to begin with & it says a lot about us Irish when we applaud a man scoring a goal from a free with the goalkeeper off his line in such circumstances. Unsporting & comparable to shooting ducks in a barrel. If I was Paddy Cullen I would have burried that c*nt Mikey Sheehy long ago. Any retard with wellyboots on would have scored that. Best gaa moment for me was years later when Darby gave those Kerry boys a taste of their own medicine.
do you want a few lemons? if you get bitter you'll never get better ;D
great goal by mickey the way he curled the ball around the fouler cullen and then made it bend under the bar. now tell me how did you miss the bolix darby pushing tommy doyle?
Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 08:38:03 PM
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
i agree ziggy it was a bit of a kerry/dublin love in..
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Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 08:38:03 PM
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
i agree ziggy it was a bit of a kerry/dublin love in..
Suppose with both teams in the doldrums, they required something to cheer them up Ziggysego ;)
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Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 08:38:03 PM
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
i agree ziggy it was a bit of a kerry/dublin love in..
Suppose with both teams in the doldrums, they required something to cheer them up Ziggysego ;)
Oh yes the memories and nostalgia we love it
I cant undersand why they had Eileen Dunne on.
Eileen is the late Mick Dunne's daughter - she is involved with the GAA at National Level on their Social committee
when the late late was over, i was left wondering "what was that meant to be about".....
I have just come back from the ulster senior scor na og final, which is celebrating its 40 th birthday. It is a great outlet for displaying our Irish culture of our native songs, storytelling, dance and music and plays an important role of maintaining our national identity. The talent that was in silverbridge tonight was exceptional and anyone who takes part in scor does so because of the love they have for it, their clubs, their county and the G.A.A. So why on this "so called celebration programme" did they have the saw doctors singing N17 and brush sheils singing the fields of anthery (more commonly found being sang by mass crowds at soccer games) is beyond me. As the Bean an Ti tonight, who i might add did a great job, pointed out they would need to come to a night like tonight to really see what talent there is in the G.A.A.
R.T.E would need to have a look at who their researchers are because they failed miserably, and didn't even touch the surface of what the G.A.A does or means to the people of Ireland.
To think they had eamon dunphy, brush sheils, bertie were sitting on stage while 3rd row seats were given to michael o muircheartaigh, sean og, sean kelly etc men who know, live, breathe the G.A.A. is just ridiculous .......
R.T.E messed up big time but they'll be bending over backwards to have the rights to show championship games because they know the level of support the G.A.A has they obviously just don't understand it!
Anyway can i just congratulate all those who won to tonight in scor and say it was a excellent night of entertainment!
Quote from: leenie on January 11, 2009, 03:01:49 AMR.T.E would need to have a look at who their researchers are because they failed miserably, and didn't even touch the surface of what the G.A.A does or means to the people of Ireland.
To think they had eamon dunphy, brush sheils, bertie were sitting on stage while 3rd row seats were given to michael o muircheartaigh, sean og, sean kelly etc men who know, live, breathe the G.A.A. is just ridiculous .......
R.T.E messed up big time but they'll be bending over backwards to have the rights to show championship games because they know the level of support the G.A.A has they obviously just don't understand it!
RTE is a bastion of the typical mentality of certain section of the irish nation. They don't understand what the GAA is and frankly don't care, they only put the games on for the ratings.
Personally I wouldnt let Sean Kelly speak at all as I despise him but Micheal O Muircheartaigh is one person that certainly should be given a more prominent focus with his years of knowledge. Brush sheils FFS. Who sings the Fields of Athenry at GAA games? it defies belief.
When I heard this was scheduled you didn't need to be Mystic Meg to guess it was going to be a trainwreck.
Letting Brush Shields on to represent Dublin was an embarrasment. FFS he even admitted he never goes to games anymore.
Cringed all the way through it.
All of a sudden Pat Kenny has an interest in GAA?
I only ever remember him interviewing Graham Geraghty and Paddy Cullen to get the scoop on some smut gossip and lies.
I'd be a bit suspicious he's got a squatters eye on Croke Park.
Watch this space
Quote from: never kickt a ball on January 10, 2009, 09:01:31 PM
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Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 08:38:03 PM
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
i agree ziggy it was a bit of a kerry/dublin love in..
Suppose with both teams in the doldrums, they required something to cheer them up Ziggysego ;)
Dublin maybe but us?
the fact is that Kerry have always been a focal point of intercounty AI football and can be deservedly mentioned in shows like this. The nordie teams have only come to the fore in the last few years and have only won a handful of titles between them. Get over it lads!
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Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 08:38:03 PM
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
i agree ziggy it was a bit of a kerry/dublin love in..
Suppose with both teams in the doldrums, they required something to cheer them up Ziggysego ;)
Dublin maybe but us?
the fact is that Kerry have always been a focal point of intercounty AI football and can be deservedly mentioned in shows like this. The nordie teams have only come to the fore in the last few years and have only won a handful of titles between them. Get over it lads!
If the programme had been about the future of the GAA , it would be exclusively about the ' nordie teams' ;D ;D ;D
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Quote from: ziggysego on January 10, 2009, 08:38:03 PM
MK's happy because they were drooling over Kerry.
i agree ziggy it was a bit of a kerry/dublin love in..
Suppose with both teams in the doldrums, they required something to cheer them up Ziggysego ;)
Dublin maybe but us?
the fact is that Kerry have always been a focal point of intercounty AI football and can be deservedly mentioned in shows like this. The nordie teams have only come to the fore in the last few years and have only won a handful of titles between them. Get over it lads!
If the programme had been about the future of the GAA , it would be exclusively about the ' nordie teams' ;D ;D ;D
One nordie team maybe? There's not much else up there! ;)
certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
Quote from: carribbear on January 11, 2009, 03:20:08 AM
Who sings the Fields of Athenry at GAA games? it defies belief
I've heard Dubs fans sing it on the hill :)
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 11, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
When Peter Quinn tried to expand on 'the northern issue' Pat cut him off. The reality is that what happened in the north for 35 years barely affected the majority of the population in the 26 counties, and that for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event than the deaths of Hogan, McAnespie, Brown or the occupation of St Oliver Plunkett Park.
Quote from: magickingdom on January 10, 2009, 08:13:07 PM
the late late show is a mass appeal light entertainment show, thats all. last night was very good imo but obviously a light entertainment show can barely scratch the fringes of what an organisation like the gaa is all about. some of ye need to get a grip and give up the gripe ;D
We know the LLS is light entertainment, does that mean we have to tolerate sloppy editing, production, direction and presentation.
The point is that those individuals should not have been let near producing and directing a GAA tribute show.
That's the state tv station's official tribute to the GAA.
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certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
When Peter Quinn tried to expand on 'the northern issue' Pat cut him off. The reality is that what happened in the north for 35 years barely affected the majority of the population in the 26 counties, and that for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event than the deaths of Hogan, McAnespie, Brown or the occupation of St Oliver Plunkett Park.
I suppose it depends where you come from. But I'd have to agree with you. Short memories and and all that.
Anybody else notice Pat Kenny referring to "the beautiful game" (as in soccer) 2/3 times during to show? An insufferable tit of the highest order.
Heard him say it a few times. Surprised no one pulled him on it. At least we can rely on TG4 to provide us with something special. How did we survive without it?
You're right again Ziggy- nothing beautiful about soccer expect when Everton play it ;)
Brush Shields. was that the dodgey looking fella with the hat and crap coat? he reminded me of the boys that "look after ya car sir" about Croke
whats his talent, why was he on and what da F*ck was he talking about? thought he was going to cry his lamps out at one point
Well said LongrunstheFox.
I'd say we're gonna end the Pool's season in the next 2 weeks with defeats in the league and FA Cup
I totally agree about Brush Shiels. What an eejit and for a GAA show surely they could have had a better Dub entertainer.
I'd love to have heard more yarns from Keaveny or Heffo and was wondering was there ill feelings between Dara O'Shea and the Tyrone lads.
Mickey Harte hardly smiled all night and Dara sounded very edgy even though I thought it a little unfair of Pat to shove the Dooher picture into his face.
All in all I enjoyed the program but it could have been a lot better.
I think a lot of people are fed up with Spillane getting so much air time.
Am I right to say a lot of the older Kerry players are embarassed by the man?
Where was Brian Cody?
I thought it would have been better to talk to Cody and Harte as both are great speakers
We can only look forward to this TG4 series.
I believe RTE ignored any suggestions from the 125 committee formed by the GAA as to the makeup of the show. I believe that there was shock and horror when they heard the line up but they were powerless.
I watched a bit more and all I can say is out of 10 I'd give the show 0
Nob nation was as funny as piles.
Scuab Shiels should be banished from all GAA grounds for life. What he did was worse than assaulting a ref.
Christy Cooney almost made me nod off
Dara would have been in his rights to tell The Plank to be amorous with himself and walk off.
All in all a complete dogs dinner and I look forward to the TG4 series.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 11, 2009, 03:27:35 PM
Christy Cooney almost made me nod off
I actually did fall asleep as soon as the Nicky and Christy act started. I remember the first 20 seconds or so and thinking to myself "not really Morecambe and Wise, more Wise and Wise". Then I was woken up by some gawky looking ginger hoor roaring, but at least the credits were rolling by that stage.
Right enuff that christy Cooney is less than inspiring... the charisma of a wet rag.
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Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 11, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
When Peter Quinn tried to expand on 'the northern issue' Pat cut him off. The reality is that what happened in the north for 35 years barely affected the majority of the population in the 26 counties, and that for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event than the deaths of Hogan, McAnespie, Brown or the occupation of St Oliver Plunkett Park.
Ah ffs here we go again. Suddenly Pat Kenny speaks for every Gael south of the border? The man is as in touch with the GAA as I am on nuclear physics.
I would personally liked to have seen a lot more given to 'the northern issue' but I think you're blurring the waters comparing Mikey Sheehy's chip to events in the north. Moments like these relate almost entirely to events on the field, its not some anti northern conspiracy.
Quote from: Fr. Cyril McDuff on January 11, 2009, 01:59:56 PM
Anybody else notice Pat Kenny referring to "the beautiful game" (as in soccer) 2/3 times during to show? An insufferable tit of the highest order.
There were a few things that had me banging my head off the wall while watching this show. That arsehole Brush Shiels murdering the Fields of Athenry, Pat Kenny not allowing Peter Quinn to elaborate on his point about Northern GAA members not always getting support from down south during the Troubles, and that comedian who I had never heard tell of and who didn't exactly have the audience in stitches with his unfunny impersonations. However, Kenny's reference to "the beautiful game" on at least two occasions really sickened my hole and proved that he was not worthy of hosting a programme to mark 125 years of the GAA.
The show was not all bad last Friday night but I felt it could have been better. Kenny was responsible for a lot of the bad points and is the reason why I would avoid watching the Late Late any other weekend. What a pity he didn't allow Des Cahill or the great Micheal to present the show in its entirety last Friday.
The programme was a disgrace. I only saw up as far as Brush Shields and fortunately I had to go out and missed the rest. My sports mad kids who'd watch tiddlywinks on telly if it was on also stopped watching at that stage. RTE should be ashamed of itself. I couldn't believe it when they cut out the singing of The West's Awake, despite the fact that Eileen Dunne referred to it specifically. People should be writing to the newspapers to highlight their anger. I'm not from the south but I'd be pretty pissed off to see my license fee going on that sh*te
RTÉ is very D4 focused, sometimes I get the feeling that they're a bit annoyed over the fact that they _have_ to show "bogball" ::) ... so as a paranoid nordie, I wonder did RTÉ conspire to show the GAA in a bad light, so more people will see the "light" of "the beautiful game" and rugger? :P
missed this as i was working and was going to watch it online but i do not think i will bother now going by the posts on here
Wouldn't it have been great to have the 'legends' on the stage, fellas you don't hear much from - I wonder who has the oldest All-Ireland medal in either code. That'd be some quest if someone's up for it. 80 years ago perhaps? Some young buck on the Kerry 4-in-a-row side of 29-32?
The likes of Frank McGuigan, Sean O'Neill, Jim McKeever, Jody O'Neill, Joe Kernan etc could tell some tales from an Ulster football perspective. Not buckin Brush or Bertie or Eamon. Jaysss
I know Cavans football history quite well. The first Ulster team to win all ireland, the winners of the only all ireland to be played outside the country. Kicked out of all ireland with Kerry for protests, trying to get into Leinster and then proposing to start their own province. All great stories of the GAA from earlier times. Every county must have them. This was supposed to be a celebration about the 125 years of the GAA, not 1970 - 1980 Football history. Some d4 rugger bugger with no understanding of the game must have been veting the content of the show as it was total joke
Email of disappointment sent to latelate@rte.ie
I'd encourage you all to do the same.
Done.
Job done, feel somewhat better now
I always like to listen to this to remind me of how big a bollox Plank Kenny is:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A3xFxaVucmE
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 11, 2009, 08:36:05 PM
I know Cavans football history quite well. The first Ulster team to win all ireland, the winners of the only all ireland to be played outside the country. Kicked out of all ireland with Kerry for protests, trying to get into Leinster and then proposing to start their own province. All great stories of the GAA from earlier times. Every county must have them. This was supposed to be a celebration about the 125 years of the GAA, not 1970 - 1980 Football history. Some d4 rugger bugger with no understanding of the game must have been veting the content of the show as it was total joke
It sounds like the Ky Auvin boys need a show of their own!
Not a mention made of the Gallant John Joe either.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 11, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: thebandit on January 11, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 11, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
When Peter Quinn tried to expand on 'the northern issue' Pat cut him off. The reality is that what happened in the north for 35 years barely affected the majority of the population in the 26 counties, and that for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event than the deaths of Hogan, McAnespie, Brown or the occupation of St Oliver Plunkett Park.
Ah ffs here we go again. Suddenly Pat Kenny speaks for every Gael south of the border? The man is as in touch with the GAA as I am on nuclear physics.
I would personally liked to have seen a lot more given to 'the northern issue' but I think you're blurring the waters comparing Mikey Sheehy's chip to events in the north. Moments like these relate almost entirely to events on the field, its not some anti northern conspiracy.
I agree with that, and it was right that the programme should focus more on the skills of the game rather than other events.
But I stand over what I said, for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event that these events, and that the great Cavan team of the 1940s, the great Down team of the 1960s, the county of Cork, and the great games of hurling and handball were sidelined in favour of Dublins only truly great team.
I stand to be corrected on this, but I dont think handball was mentioned at all.
Yis are all hard to please feckers
What's with the whinging lads? Did anyone seriously think it would be any good?
Watched a DVD instead called Cass. Utter dung and to be avoided at all cost.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 11, 2009, 09:10:51 PM
Email of disappointment sent to latelate@rte.ie
I'd encourage you all to do the same.
Done
A load of shite to say the least.
Why did they have Kevin Mussen in the audience and not interveiw him about being the first man to carry Sam over the border in 1960. Maybe they thought Brush Shiels was more value or Paidi 'Saturday Night Fever' O'Shea was more interesting.
Also Peter Quinn getting cut off was wrong.
Again a Kerry / Dublin love in.
RTE messed this one big time.
I still after three days cannot understand why the f**k Brush was on the show, it was embarrassing and everyone in the audience was thinking the same as he murdered the Fields of Athenry. There are plenty more Irish entertainers with more direct links to the GAA than that tool, actually makes me angry when I think about it on reflection.
Bobby Davro would have been more value :D
Precisely. I thought I'd share with you the Brush paragraph of my email to RTÉ.
But sweet leppin Christ Almighty, what do you people have against Brush Shields? Why do you insist on dragging him from his richly-merited obscurity for a ritual public humiliation at every opportunity? It's not right and it has to stop. Elder abuse is against the law, you know. It's not funny any more and my kids are getting fed up listening to me asking, as I watch drop-jawed through my fingers at poor Brush making a fool of himself for his RTÉ ringmasters once again, what exactly does RTÉ think Brush is for? I'm intrigued to find out, because the rest of us have no idea. Can you help?
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 12, 2009, 12:29:17 PM
Bobby Davro would have been more value :D
Bobby goes to more GAA matches than Brush ;)
What a bag of piss the show was on friday night. It actually started quite well. I thought Bertie was very good & had a great deal of knowledge. What dunphy was doing there I don't know. As for Brush sheils the less said the better. Pat was his usual plank self, with an audience like he had, there could have been so much more to the show. I enjoyed heffo, kevin moran & Jack O Se etc... Hurling for the most part got a raw deal...
As for Pat spillane, hes not known as Pat the Bollix for nothing, jesus he has a high opinion of himself, you could nearly hear the audience collectively groan when he appeared..
You'd think there was no-one but Kerry & Dublin in the country & they saved the association from ruin...
TG4 should be much better
PS Where was Marty Morrissey?
QuotePS Where was Marty Morrissey?
Probably hidden in the same cupboard as Brian Carteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Quote from: thebandit on January 12, 2009, 01:42:19 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 11, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: thebandit on January 11, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 11, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
When Peter Quinn tried to expand on 'the northern issue' Pat cut him off. The reality is that what happened in the north for 35 years barely affected the majority of the population in the 26 counties, and that for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event than the deaths of Hogan, McAnespie, Brown or the occupation of St Oliver Plunkett Park.
Ah ffs here we go again. Suddenly Pat Kenny speaks for every Gael south of the border? The man is as in touch with the GAA as I am on nuclear physics.
I would personally liked to have seen a lot more given to 'the northern issue' but I think you're blurring the waters comparing Mikey Sheehy's chip to events in the north. Moments like these relate almost entirely to events on the field, its not some anti northern conspiracy.
I agree with that, and it was right that the programme should focus more on the skills of the game rather than other events.
But I stand over what I said, for most people on the island, Mikey Sheehy's overrated chip was a far more significant event that these events, and that the great Cavan team of the 1940s, the great Down team of the 1960s, the county of Cork, and the great games of hurling and handball were sidelined in favour of Dublins only truly great team.
I stand to be corrected on this, but I dont think handball was mentioned at all.
Handball wasn't mentioned but Paul Brady was in the crowd. I'm sure he was a bit bemused by the fact he was there and there was no mention. I'm certain Pat would not have recognised him anyway - maybe he should have claimed to have played on the Dublin team of the 70's!
Des ( marshmellow man) Cahill telling Pat the Plank who the people in the audience were and Pat not havig a clue was priceless... Darragh O Shea squirming in his seat while Pat asked one pointless question after another was also another highlight... i thought that o Shea would have got up and belted him... not that would be television.... it was a Dublin- Kerry love in as already mentioned with RTE patting themselves on the back with all their employees disguised as "guests" arriving on to tell us about their memories of been lifted over the styles in the black and white days. its good to see the licence fees been put ot such good use as usual,The brush stole the show in fairness!
The show was so poor and if thats the best they put together to lauch the 125th year than the €500,000 worth of fireworks should be attached to Pat the plank and Brush Shields and that horrible leather "Ireland" jacket that he has worn to death.
The only genuine GAA person in the actual interview chair was Pat Spillane. How RTE thought it useful to have Eamon Dunphy, Eileen Dunne and Brush Shields interviewed is beyond me. ???
All Pat wanted to talk about was the negatives eg Ban on Soccer players
Quote from: bingobus on January 12, 2009, 03:56:47 PM
The show was so poor and if thats the best they put together to lauch the 125th year than the €500,000 worth of fireworks should be attached to Pat the plank and Brush Shields and that horrible leather "Ireland" jacket that he has worn to death.
The only genuine GAA person in the actual interview chair was Pat Spillane. How RTE thought it useful to have Eamon Dunphy, Eileen Dunne and Brush Shields interviewed is beyond me. ???
All Pat wanted to talk about was the negatives eg Ban on Soccer players
in all fairness bertie would be a genuine gael
Quote from: Drumanee 1 on January 12, 2009, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: bingobus on January 12, 2009, 03:56:47 PM
The show was so poor and if thats the best they put together to lauch the 125th year than the €500,000 worth of fireworks should be attached to Pat the plank and Brush Shields and that horrible leather "Ireland" jacket that he has worn to death.
The only genuine GAA person in the actual interview chair was Pat Spillane. How RTE thought it useful to have Eamon Dunphy, Eileen Dunne and Brush Shields interviewed is beyond me. ???
All Pat wanted to talk about was the negatives eg Ban on Soccer players
in all fairness bertie would be a genuine gael
Er... Des Cahill.
Des Cahill & Bertie - Media whores, if the programme was about 125 years of the FAI or Man United both would have been on it as well. I know that these "guests" are fans and would have a great deal of knowledge but they the bedrock of the association that should be wheeled out to mark 125 years? Sure Bertie rang in to Today FM on they day they marked 10 years of Premiership coverage.
Should they warrant a soft seat while Micko gets a few words from the audience or a number of presidents sit looking on?
Its a bit sad that the powers that be in R(eally)T(errible)E(ffort) ruined what culd have been an exceptional and possibly seminal show. The Brush Shields fiasco was just an example of the huge gap between what the producers think makes good television and what people really want.
I wonder whose call it was not to have two of the most important and interesting figures of the last 15 years, Liam Griffith and Joe Kernan not even in the audience? Surely celebrating the GAA is more important than the fact that the two lads commentate for their rival station. No Eugene McGee either? Same reason?
Sean Og O C was not even asked about the changes in the 76 (!!!!!)years he has been broadcasting FFS.
Now i know people are saying that the Plank hasn't a clue but this is no excuse. If the debate was on a different social issue could you imagine him not knowing his stuff. Why did he cut off Conor O'Shea.Why did he not know who Conor O Shea was?
Mad, bad and sad stuff.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 11, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
certainly it was a Kerry-Dublin love in. The west barely got a mention either nor the Rebels and all their great hurlers down the years nor Crossmaglen.....
Too true about the West anyway. No Connacht man was interviewed in the audience. It was an absolute disgrace the way 'The West's Awake' wasn't sung on it and I lost interest after that. Also, could you imagine if the BBC did a programme highlighting the next big anniversary of the FA, could you imagine Tony Blair on it? What right had Bertie to be there or Dunphy??? Jesus Christ it beggars belief. I know these points have probably been well made before and fair play to ye for making them, but it was all about Dublin (and Kerry cos they happened to be great when Dublin had their period at the top in the late 70s.)
PS, why are Dublin getting the 'glamour tie' against Tyrone on the 31st of January???
I suppose the reason Dublin v Tyrone is on is obviously because the GAA want to use Croke Park to kick start the celebrations, jewel in the crown and all that. But considering that it is the entire association's celebrations why not throw in Dublin's first hurling league game? Every club in the country is been given two tickets..... do all the hurling clubs want to go and watch a football game NOT involving their own county. Many will no doubt but, its still a bit daft.
Quote from: Hardy on January 12, 2009, 12:37:05 PM
Precisely. I thought I'd share with you the Brush paragraph of my email to RTÉ.
But sweet leppin Christ Almighty, what do you people have against Brush Shields? Why do you insist on dragging him from his richly-merited obscurity for a ritual public humiliation at every opportunity? It's not right and it has to stop. Elder abuse is against the law, you know. It's not funny any more and my kids are getting fed up listening to me asking, as I watch drop-jawed through my fingers at poor Brush making a fool of himself for his RTÉ ringmasters once again, what exactly does RTÉ think Brush is for? I'm intrigued to find out, because the rest of us have no idea. Can you help?
Hilarious. You really bristled at RTE's handling of Brush.
They should have shafted him in my opinion.
The repeat is on tonight at 12.55am.
For those of you totally disappointed/outraged at the quality of the show I reckon a bit of advance thinking would have helped. I saw the RTE website in the afternoon of Friday and thought RTE/Pat Kenny/GAA, this is going to be a pile of shite, wasn't disappointed but wasn't shocked at the same time, what some of the giants of the GAA in the audience must have thought of the "experts" in the chair you must wonder. Brush Shiels and that comedian were both fairly cringe inducing. Still, could have rolled out Turbidy, Brendan O Connor and Dustin the turkey so small mercies and all that.
Where was the worst RTE insider of them all ...Twink
I see karl o'kane lifted his third man tackle column entirely from this thread today.
nice that we can keep fellas in a job
don't know who's to blame for the late late fiasco - RTE for putting such a brainless production together or the gaa for going along with it. Surely the gaa had some idea in advance of what the show content was and who the guests were. Had they no say in the style or content of the show? GAA wasted a great opportunity to showcase the 125th anniversary and RTE looked like they had free reign and managed to mees it up even further.
So what was missing that one might have genuinly expected?
Here's a few obvious ones....
1- The man at the helm and official chairman of the 125 GAA Committee - Jarlath Burns - to enlighten us about all the 125 events in 2009
2- The main trophies (SAM & LIAM) that have been the icons of the gaa for all these years weren't even on display (as far as i know).
3 - Then and Now - How the game has been modernised from the days of 'caps and sandwiches' to the modern game (nothing wrong with caps and sandwiches just an expression !). The game as a player and spectator sport has changed enormously over the years so a bit of discussion on the bigger changes.
4 - A panel maybe of Micheal O'Muiracheartiagh, Sean Og O'C, Mick O'Dwyer and the likes to have a proper reminisce of past gaa glories and suitable anecdotes - there was GAA before the 1970's that RTE production seemed happy to ignore.
5 - The GAA Club - More on the grassroots that is GAA - the local club. Some real representation and not just the cliched curtesy mention that it got. In fairness Des Cahill did try to highlight it using his own club as an example but it could have been a whole section.
6 - Football v Hurling - hurling hardly got a mention on the show at all but a bit of debate and banter on one verses the other might have been an idea - even as to why most clubs and counties (but not all) excel at one or the other.
It seems to me that people are being a tad unfair. The Late Late Show is a Friday Night Light Entertainment Show first and foremost, and its targeted audience extends way beyond the GAA community, and in the space of two and a quarter hours there was a limit to the content. In otherwords there wasn't time for an in depth analysis of 125 years (isn't TG 4 doing a 9 part series for this purpose), and like them or loathe them, the likes of Bertie, Dunphy and Brush Shiels will always attract viewers from outside the GAA's hinterland.
I certainly found it entertaining enough (the show's purpose), I thought the real gobshite was that Knob from Nob Nation, although you could argue any Monaghan Man is out of place in any GAA related event.
I thought it a little strange when they talked about Mickey Harte with him in the picture but didnt actually talk to him. I reasonably enjoyed the show because I like all things GAA, but it was an unashamed gloss over. I thought it was amazing bringing the entire artane band into the studio, and you still couldnt hear them for the noise pollution of the sawdoctors. :D. and as for the juggler / comedian / class clown - poor. If you put on a show in your local GAA club with those ideas on entertainment you wouldnt get 50 unless its in Ardboe. Probably The last time I watched the late late there was a tribute to the Dubliners on and I thought they had made an effort there, this was in general GAA lite.
Quote from: rrhf on January 13, 2009, 12:28:10 PM
I thought it a little strange when they talked about Mickey Harte with him in the picture but didnt actually talk to him. I reasonably enjoyed the show because I like all things GAA, but it was an unashamed gloss over. I thought it was amazing bringing the entire artane band into the studio, and you still couldnt hear them for the noise pollution of the sawdoctors. :D. and as for the juggler / comedian / class clown - poor. If you put on a show in your local GAA club with those ideas on entertainment you wouldnt get 50 unless its in Ardboe. Probably The last time I watched the late late there was a tribute to the Dubliners on and I thought they had made an effort there, this was in general GAA lite.
I see you're getting a venue ready !
I think Furboot made some very pertinent points there, there is a hell of a lot more that they could have crammed into the show and it still would have come under the remit of "Light Entertainment". I know Boston College are doing a huge survey of the country looking at the whole social side of the GAA and this was never even mentioned.
And TheGAA don't be surprised about Karl O'Kane completely lifting stuff and not doing any work himself... i know from personal experience that The Star are wonderful at plagarism....p****s.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 13, 2009, 12:13:32 PM
It seems to me that people are being a tad unfair. The Late Late Show is a Friday Night Light Entertainment Show first and foremost, and its targeted audience extends way beyond the GAA community, and in the space of two and a quarter hours there was a limit to the content. In otherwords there wasn't time for an in depth analysis of 125 years (isn't TG 4 doing a 9 part series for this purpose), and like them or loathe them, the likes of Bertie, Dunphy and Brush Shiels will always attract viewers from outside the GAA's hinterland.
Yes, there's a limit to the content, but they could have swapped what they
did have for something better and it wouldn't have required too much imagination. Also i doubt very much that Brush Shiels has any significant pulling power, regardless of what the subject of the show is.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 13, 2009, 12:13:32 PM
I certainly found it entertaining enough (the show's purpose), I thought the real gobshite was that Knob from Nob Nation, although you could argue any Monaghan Man is out of place in any GAA related event.
(Whilst not defending the knob nation sketch) Yes, obviously given Armagh's long and rich history in comparison to Monaghan, it would be much more deserving of places. And of course the current Director Genaral isn't from Monaghan, nor is a relatively recent GAA President, and Armagh surely don't use a Monaghan venue for their home games... oh, wait ::)
Quote(Whilst not defending the knob nation sketch)
this was singularly unfunny in parts, but he did raise a laugh about the Cork resignation controversy and the bishop holding firm.
QuoteAlso i doubt very much that Brush Shiels has any significant pulling power, regardless of what the subject of the show is.
he must have pictures of someone...
Quoteand Armagh surely don't use a Monaghan venue for their home games... oh, wait
Armagh does play in Clones rather a lot. As so many Ulster championship games are in Clones you would think that Monaghan would try a bit harder to reach the later rounds of that competition. Perhaps now that the recession has returned the glory days of the 80's can be recaptured.
I see former Meath great and now respected surgeon Gerry McEntee has vented his anger in today's Irish Times' letters page.
Never one to hold back.
'Late Late' tribute to the GAA
Madam, – I sincerely hope that the Late Late Show 's tribute last Friday to 125 years of the GAA is not a reflection of the forthcoming RTÉ series commemorating the anniversary. Firstly, on what basis were Bertie Ahern and Eamon Dunphy the principal guests? Surely it would have been more appropriate to have the current GAA president or the current or former ard striuratheoir open the show.
Secondly, no recognition at all was given to the enormous contribution of women to the association apart from a brief conversation with Deirdre Shefflin, who just happened to be sitting beside her husband Henry and also happened to have played camogie. Thirdly, the mimic "comedian" clearly was not vetted beforehand. He was not funny and he was downright offensive to the current Taoiseach, a true GAA supporter who did not deserve to be treated in such an insulting manner.
Finally one can only assume Des Cahill was sent on at the end to rescue Pat Kenny and a show that was dying on its feet. He duly did his best by pointing out some prominent GAA people in the audience whom Pat Kenny clearly did not recognise. This was a shambles of a "celebration", an embarrassment to RTÉ and Pat Kenny and an insult to the GAA at large. – Yours, etc,
GERRY McENTEE,
Eccles Street,
Dublin 7.
Very well put, spot on.
Yes, but he forgot to mention Brush!
The Meath men will not shaft the Brush as him and Sean Boylan are big mates. Would agree with everything Gerry said though, fair play.
Seemingly there was war in The Late Late studio after the show ended when all the Fianna Failers refused to sup with Kenny and went home cos of the antics of The Knob from Knob Nation. Many expressed their feelings as well.
Des Cahill watched the start of the show from his armchair at home and got an urgent request to come in and rescue things as the producers could see that the show was going pear-shaped rapidly.
There was other rows as well over whether Sean Kelly would get his bake in (seeing as he is running for European office) as he was originally scheduled to be a main guest but if he was on, others were off.
All in all the GAA's top brass are very very unhappy with RTE.
When's the next review of the coverage of the games?????
One poster on An Fear Rua summed it up perfectly: Im glad that I was drinking rather heavily for the whole show! :D
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
Des Cahill watched the start of the show from his armchair at home and got an urgent request to come in and rescue things as the producers could see that the show was going pear-shaped rapidly.
That can't be true surely? If it is it beggars belief. Surely the producers knew in advance that they were in trouble with this diatribe. If it is true then someone's head surely has to roll. Preferably Plank's
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 14, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
Des Cahill watched the start of the show from his armchair at home and got an urgent request to come in and rescue things as the producers could see that the show was going pear-shaped rapidly.
That can't be true surely? If it is it beggars belief. Surely the producers knew in advance that they were in trouble with this diatribe. If it is true then someone's head surely has to roll. Preferably Plank's
I think Shamrock Shore's tongue was firmly in his cheek when he typed that sniper :-\
I got the Des Cahill and the remaining stories from a person in the audience in the show that night via Shamrock Shore snr.
I am open to correction, of course, but I have no reason not to believe the story.
If I am wrong I will correct the record.
If I am right then it is a shocking indictment on the production levels on RTE's flagship light entertainment show. But to some here that will be of no surprise.
Jaysus its some mess if it is true. Surely RTE will comment on it at sum stage or have they already?
Well Des Cahill always wanted to be an impact sub, I suppose :D
Hey thats given me an idea for various GAA themed Late Late Shows
For example a Tyrone theme would be five or six people scrambling for every seat which would (like those in planes) have a pukebag attached underneath.
A Cork theme could be the whole audience leaving at 10.30pm as no one told them about the extra hour
and finally a Down themed show would be shown entirely in black and white as they're stuck in a 60s timewarp.
PS For personal reasons I and my family owe Gerry Mc Entee a huge debt of gratitude, but in the name of Jaysus why is he writing to Madam at the Irish Times complaining about RTE? Surely Madam has no direct or indirect input into RTE's programme planning
Or an Armagh theme where they were promised a second show but they got cancelled at the last minute and replaced by Tyrone :o
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
All in all the GAA's top brass are very very unhappy with RTE.
I'm hearing that they threatned to pull the entire thing after finding out RTE had Sean Og O'Halpin as one of the panelists. RTE dropped him quietly.
I was wondering where Sean Og got to alright
I still return to my original point, that this was a light entertainment show, a 125th Birthday Party celebration, if you like and was never intended to be a serious analysis of the GAA's 125 year existence, and due to its two and a quarter hour slot, never could be anything else, using the format of Up for the Match where only two counties (or four if the minor finalists happen to be different from the Seniors) have to be catered for.
Due to all the crap directed at RTE by those who fail to comprehend this, it probably means that our state broadcaster will never again touch the GAA (outwith broadcasting actual games) with a barge pole.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
I still return to my original point, that this was a light entertainment show, a 125th Birthday Party celebration, if you like and was never intended to be a serious analysis of the GAA's 125 year existence, and due to its two and a quarter hour slot, never could be anything else, using the format of Up for the Match where only two counties (or four if the minor finalists happen to be different from the Seniors) have to be catered for.
Due to all the crap directed at RTE by those who fail to comprehend this, it probably means that our state broadcaster will never again touch the GAA (outwith broadcasting actual games) with a barge pole.
Pat Kenny would never be allowed present up for the match. Even as light entertainment the LLS special stank to high hell - everything was wrong with it.
Jazes Tony I think you have been watching too much 'Hole in the Wall Gang' and 'Folks on the Hill' tv.
If so then, yes, last Friday night's Late Late was vintage stuff compared to those offerings.
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
All in all the GAA's top brass are very very unhappy with RTE.
I'm hearing that they threatned to pull the entire thing after finding out RTE had Sean Og O'Halpin as one of the panelists. RTE dropped him quietly.
Where did he go to ?
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
I still return to my original point, that this was a light entertainment show, a 125th Birthday Party celebration, if you like and was never intended to be a serious analysis of the GAA's 125 year existence, and due to its two and a quarter hour slot, never could be anything else, using the format of Up for the Match where only two counties (or four if the minor finalists happen to be different from the Seniors) have to be catered for.
Due to all the crap directed at RTE by those who fail to comprehend this, it probably means that our state broadcaster will never again touch the GAA (outwith broadcasting actual games) with a barge pole.
If that's all they can come up with then it's no harm. The thing about it is it wasn't even entertaining or at least not as entertaining as it could have been. They could easily have got better music, a better comedian and better guests in addition they could have at least put together a montage of the GAA from the early days to the present with maybe music to match the timeline. And they should have put together a feature or two on particular aspects of the GAA, for example the women's game or the development of the GAA abroad. They showed absolutely no imagination and put no effort whatsoever to raise it above the mundane, I know we are GAA fans on this forum but no one can deny that the GAA is a pivotal organisation in Ireland yet the national broadcaster can't do a show a bit above the ordinary when celebrating it's 125th anniversary? It was a joke.
I still return to my original point, that this was a light entertainment show, a 125th Birthday Party celebration, if you like and was never intended to be a serious analysis of the GAA's 125 year existence
But the point i think most people are trying to make is that while it is obvious that it was only meant to be a light entertainment look at the GAA in Ireland, it really wasn't. I mean it didn't look at any of the start of the GAA or the great dynasties of the 20's , 30's, 40's or 50's. Wexford the first four in a row....never mentioned. Fine it was only an overlook, but could the overlook not have been any broader in its scape?
2 and a nit hours wouldn't do justice to the GAA's history - TG4 have it right.
Quote from: orangeman on January 14, 2009, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
All in all the GAA's top brass are very very unhappy with RTE.
I'm hearing that they threatned to pull the entire thing after finding out RTE had Sean Og O'Halpin as one of the panelists. RTE dropped him quietly.
Where did he go to ?
Who knows, but he was in the press releases as a guest and didn't appear. Draw your own as they say.
IF and i reiterate IF, the GAA top brass refused to appear with Sean Og on the show, is this not them getting involved in the Cork dispute? However minor? They are clearly against the player stance if this is the case, or am i reading into it too much?
Nah, I just think it would be the wrong time to have him on, no more than having Gerald McCarthy or Frank Murphy on.
Tony no one was thinking this would be a comprehensive look at the GAA. You're right, it is a light entertainment show. Tell me though, where was the entertainment?
I wonder did any one listen to Des Cahill's radio show any evening this week? Wonder was the show brought up? It just wasn't entertaining as you said GreenandRed.... i was watching it with friends, all GAA mad, and the only thing we could talk about was Brush and why was it only Dublin and Kerry on the show. And by the way, when MickO was interviewed why did he just give a synoposis of the 74-84 finals? His own lack of stories or his lack of interest in being there?
Am I missing something here? Its the Late Late Show, not Prime Time. It is obvious from this thread that many people who allegedly found the show unentertaining still did not reach for the remote control and switch it off. If 100 of us were capable of producing a tv programme like this in honour of the GAA, we would come up with 100 different programmes/ formats etc.
Also I find it hard to believe that the GAA had no editorial input into last Friday night or at the very least had a preview of the content with the option of amending it. Obviously this was the case if Sean Og had to be removed from the guest list.
QuoteTony no one was thinking this would be a comprehensive look at the GAA. You're right, it is a light entertainment show. Tell me though, where was the entertainment?
That is the real point, as GAA fan's we might have liked to see a whole lot more done with the show but even if you look at it as just a piece of entertainment it was woeful. Rubbish music, rubbish comedian and bland enough guests, I mean if you interviewed some of the people starting clubs in various cities around the world or a Canadian teacher about the GAA in th eschools over there it would at least be interesting. And I don't mean talk to them in the audience but send a camera over there a do a pre-recorded interview. There was so much that could have been done to make the show mildly interesting (at least) but instead we were treated to a show that was put together by people without any feel for the GAA and worse again entertainment.
I think Zulu hit the nail on the head there. Obviously we weren't looking for an in-depth rivetting analysis of the GAA here, we'd have needed sociologists and historians for that purpose and obviously thats not what the Late Late Show is all about.
However, with the audience in situ and the vast source of stories out there, this show could easily have been a momument to the GAA. Instead we were left with a third or fourth rate production that gave us nothing. I mean what would a foreigner tuning into that show have learned?
Surely that should be what the LLS producers have been looking to do is it not? I mean i'd like to think that a programme by the biggest show in Ireland could come up with something that could explain how what the GAA means, no matter how superficial the level?
The songs on it didn't even have anything to do with the GAA, where was Dancing at the Crossroads for God's sakes?
Not to excuse RTÉ or anything, because the whole outfit is chronically inexcusable, but maybe I can see their thinking when it came to selecting the "music" for this fit-up show. Who can blame them for concluding that's the kind of thing the GAA public goes for when they look at what the GAA itself puts on for entertainment at its showpiece occasions? It's relentless marching-up-and-down music, except when they push out the boat with the likes of Foster and Allen for the really big occasions. Of course they save the progressive stuff for the international occasions and that's how we get to look forward to Brush Shields every two years.
And they can only have been aiming this show at the GAA public. They must know their demographics well enough to know there was a mass reaching for remote controls across large tracts of D4 and further afield when the continuity announcer said "GAA". And that's why this effort is a pretty good indicator of the respect in which they hold the GAA public.
The last poster seems to be inferring therefore that the Late Late Show was a fair reflection of the GAA, in terms of music etc.
I don't think he is doing that at all.
The last time Foster & Allen played at an All Ireland Final, Micheal O'Hehir was doing the TV commentary.
Late Late Show falls flat for GAA celebration
Galway Advertiser, January 15, 2009.
- Ray Silke
Like many other sports fans I am a big admirer of much of the material produced in the RTE sports department on both TV and radio.
Programmes on television like The Sunday Game, The Premiership, coverage of the rugby championship, the Olympics, World Cups and the like, are usually professionally done and provide considerable quality entertainment.
My licence fee is paid by standing-order every August and I have no real gripe with the television directors/producers who earn their crust in Montrose. They do their job, and many of them do it very well.
In our household we are becoming more radio than TV people anyway - old age and trying to set a good example to the children are taking their toll.
I find myself listening to Morning Ireland and Drive-Time much more now, sitting in traffic, keeping up to date with all the inward bound cut-backs, pay-cuts, or independent TD allowances that are indeed "entitlements" for the chosen few.
Ideally I would prefer to keep a positive seam in this column and I'd like to point out that I think that Pat Kenny is a superb radio interviewer and presenter, but Jumping-Jack-Flash, do I find him hard to take on the Late Late Show (I did say ideally).
He is just so leaden and it all seems such hard work that it makes me feel uncomfortable. I find myself switching channels just to stop myself cringing on his behalf.
However, even that constant view-point did not prepare me for the dreadful and abysmal effort that was trotted out last Friday night as a so-called celebration of the GAA's 125 years.
It was a shocker. A genuine shocker.
So much of the show lacked élan and panache that it became very difficult to stop switching the bloody thing off.
Nevertheless, like a committed sleep-walk, I just ploughed on until the death, hoping that salvation would come from somewhere. It did not.
Kenny as anchor neither knew his subject nor his audience. And he lacked the capacity to engage in conversation or banter with many (any) of his guests - apart from a few high profile Kerry and Dublin footballers from the 1970s.
It was impossible not to laugh or squirm (your choice) when Brush Shiels (what was he doing there?) spoke about floating on air when he performed to a full house in Croke Park. Shiels described being weightless as he ran around the packed stadium, and Pat retorted by saying he too felt that way once - wait for it - "when he passed an exam he had not expected to pass".
Oh-my-god man! Just let it go.
Another major faux-pas is that there is no new material from chatting to the likes of Paidi O' Se, Mick O'Dwyer, Kevin Heffernan, Jimmy Keavney, and Jack O'Shea at this juncture. It has all been said. And their anecdotes are dated and stale. And let's be honest here, the whole goddamn show just seemed to be one big Kerry/Dublin love-in.
There was practically no mention of hurling, despite Henry Shefflin having flown half way around the world to be back for the show.Where was Brian Cody? The Connollys? DJCarey? Jimmy Barry Murphy?
Of course the west of Ireland got a really short-shift.Did the producers never hear of the Galway three-in-a-row team of the 1960s? The Roscommon team of 1942 and 1943, or the Mayo team of '50 and '51?
Why was there not a feature on any of the clubs in the country? Did their target audience consist of only Dublin and Kerry people?
The choice of show for the subject matter was incorrect.
Pat Kenny and The Late Late are one in the same, so one could argue that Pat Kenny isn't the issue, but that The Late Late should never have been used as the platform to celebrate the GAA. That was a crazy decision in the first instance, albeit a cost-effective one.
Fill up studio one with greats and former greats and give a few of them an opportunity to be nostalgic (again) and Bob's your uncle. No expensive outside broadcasts, no innovative features on contemporary Gaelic games. No vision, little entertainment value. The whole thing went down like a lead balloon.
To prove my point: The difference that Dessie Cahill made when he arrived on set was amazing. All of a sudden the mood in the audience picked up and he started - how sad is this for a presenter? - pointing out members in the crowd who should be spoken to like Peter Quinn and Conor O' Shea.
RTE should have called in producers like Paul Byrnes and Bill Lawlor from The Sunday Game team and given them a good budget and let them use their knowledge and expertise to come up with a specific show for the 125 year celebration. It was a glorious opportunity for the national station and the GAA to have worked in tandem to produce a show of which everyone would have been proud. Instead, you had a mongrel of a show that just sickened the majority of GAA people.
If you think I am alone in my views, check out the on-line survey in one of the best GAA sites in the country, Anfearrua.com where nearly 70 per cent of respondents thought the show was awful. Or, if you have a few free hours check out another GAA site, gaaboard.com where they have a television review thread on the show that goes on for almost 30 pages.
Most of the commentary is again negative and that's a real pity. Celebrations are after all meant to be fun.
When I was reading this I considered the fact that he might have got most of his ideas from here and AFR because all his points were made here already, though in fairness any right thinking person would have thought as most of us did so maybe they are his own take on it. He did read here though......
P.S. I took the article from AFR
Quote from: cornafean on January 15, 2009, 11:02:11 AM
The last time Foster & Allen played at an All Ireland Final, Micheal O'Hehir was doing the TV commentary.
The horror is as vivid as if it was yesterday.
I've just received this reply (three days it took) from RTE to my email about the Late Late Show GAA special:
Thank you for contacting us. I'm disappointed to hear that you were not happy with the Late Late show GAA Special however I'm sure you can appreciate it was simply impossible for us to include all aspects of the GAA over the past 125 years within the confines of a Late Late show. The aim of this show was to show case (sic) the GAA to the populous (sic) and make people aware that this fantastic organisation had reached a major milestone of 125 years while at the same time ensuring that the show was entertaining for the Late Late show viewers who would not necessarily have much of an interest in sport. It was our decision to include Bertie Ahern, Eamon Dunphy and Oliver Callan and we stand over this.
Best wishes,
The Late Late ShowI'm hugely reassured that they've taken my constructive criticism to heart and have resolved to try harder, etc.
Got the exact same email, nice to know they're reading all our emails and sending out personalised replies ::)
Yeah, got the same one too. I didn't need to check here to find out either because they didn't answer any of my questions in the reply. Lip service. A bit like their effort on Friday night
Same reply here as well.
A rale cut and paste jobbie.
I will reply I think.
Quote from: Hardy on January 15, 2009, 11:36:43 AM
The horror is as vivid as if it was yesterday.
:D
Quote
The aim of this show was to show case (sic) the GAA to the populous (sic)
Holy mother of Jesus.... :o
Same reply here as well. Nice and personal.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 05:01:09 PM
If 100 of us were capable of producing a tv programme like this in honour of the GAA, we would come up with 100 different programmes/ formats etc.
Yes, but not one of those formats would include Brush Shiels or Eamonn Dunphy, i'd wager.
Ah feck it, why don't you all just write to Points of View or whatever it was, presented by Arthur Murphy?
PS I'll bet you all purchase the DVD of the show when it comes out
You are having a laugh Tony :o
It won't ever be out on dvd FFS.
Tony probably gets a lot of freebies from RTE. Can't think of any other reason he's defending the Late Late Show so much.
I see today's Off The Fence in the Irish News is full of this too.
'The Late, Late Show' can make its own way home...
Off The Fence
By Paddy Heaney
15/01/2009
The lovely men and women at BBC Northern Ireland will really enjoy today's Off the Fence.
In the absence of any competition from the pitiful UTV, the public broadcaster has often been derided in this forum for the quality of its GAA coverage.
But today, the BBC has received a temporary reprieve and it is the producers at RTE who now stand on the gallows.
To mark the 125th anniversary of the GAA, a special edition of 'The Late Late Show' was screened by RTE on Friday night. The ordinary people of Ireland were not impressed, well certainly not those living outside Dublin and Kerry.
For those of you who missed the programme, it's probably enough to say that the guest list included Eamon Dunphy, Brush Shiels and Bertie Ahern. Yes, those three doyens of An Cumann Lúthchleas Gael. But don't take my word for it. Here's what you thought of it all:
'Erne supporter domiciled in Armagh City' wrote: "On watching 'The Late Late Show' shambles last Friday evening, you would have thought the only two teams that played the great game were Dublin and Kerry.
"Over 60 per cent of the two hours was devoted to these counties. It was a total disaster. It was nearly as bad as 'Up for the Match' that was broadcast on the Saturday evening prior to the 2003 final between Tyrone and Armagh.
"For that programme, the first 25 minutes was given to the actual game and then RTE's Des Cahill proceeded with the life and times of the 'great' Mick O'Dwyer. What had O'Dwyer to do with the following day's game? Absolutely nothing! I rest my case."
- 'Noelle from St Enda's, Omagh' provided a more forensic, but just as critical, assessment of the programme. She wrote: "There was nothing 'special' about 'The Late Late Show' on Friday night. It was a big disappointment.
"As a keen GAA fan and a member of St Enda's 2008 All-Ireland Scór-winning ballad group, I was delighted when we were asked to perform on this show.
"Later, however, we were told that no Scór acts were required to perform on the show as RTE had booked 'The Saw Doctors'.
"The 'comedian' who appeared, and most of the guests, who had very few links to the GAA, only served to make the show even less interesting.
"We caught glimpses of real GAA legends in the audience (eg: Mick O'Dwyer, Michael O Muircheartaigh and Duxie Walsh) but they were ignored rather than being interviewed by GAA legend and number one fan himself, Pat Kenny!
"RTE doesn't seem to realise that the GAA is made up of more than just football and hurling (which got little enough mention). There was a passing reference to camogie, ladies' football, and Scór when they introduced Tommy Fleming, which was the highlight of the show for me.
"As far as I am aware, handball didn't get a mention at all despite the presence of world champion Paul Brady in the front row.
"The show seemed to be a celebration of Dublin and Kerry, with very little reference to all the other great football and hurling teams from the past 125 years.
"The feedback that I have heard from anyone I have spoken to has been overwhelmingly negative. This could have been a wonderful celebration of the GAA, but it was just a big disappointment."
- 'Jim from Keady' was equally unimpressed. He rang our hotline and said: "I wanted to crawl behind the sofa. I never watched worse in my life.
"I also want to ask the question: how many of the guests on the programme were paid-up members of the GAA? I would hazard a guess – probably none.
"As for your man, the impressionist, Oliver Callan, I think the crowd wanted to leave when he was on. What a sickener!
"I thought the whole thing was an absolute joke. I hope to God there is no more stuff like that on."
- 'Damian from Camlough' also added his voice to the chorus of dissent generated by 'The Late Late Show.' (Sure, it's never been the same since Gaybo quit).
He said: I would like to complain about the Kerry/Dublin love-in put on by RTE the other night. It was an absolute joke.
"Would the Dalkey-dwelling Pat Kenny know an O'Neill's ball if it hit him in the face?"
- Moving away from Donnybrook, we received an intriguing email from 'Reading Between the Lines.' Judging by the tone of his message, the choice of pseudonym is entirely appropriate.
'RBTL' wrote: "After Tyrone lost to Down by seven points on Sunday, Mickey Harte sounded gracious in defeat when he said that Down's 'superior fitness and teamwork showed in the end'.
"As a huge fan of Harte (below), I pay close scrutiny to everything he says and I think his comments deserve further examination.
"Prior to the closed season in November and December, Tyrone's last competitive game was September 22. On the other hand, Down's last Championship game was around the start of August (Saturday August 2, to be precise).
"One big question therefore begs to be asked: How can Down be fitter and more fluid than the reigning All-Ireland champions when they've been out of action for five months, a full two months more than Tyrone? Hmmmmm. I wonder."
Surely you are not suggesting? You couldn't possibly think?
- And finally, 'RP from Belfast' emailed to voice his disagreement with this week's Against the Breeze column.
The column argued that if it's kosher to pay full-time administrators then the same rules should apply to club and county managers.
'RP' wrote: "Thankfully, I am not a member of a club that pays a manger. If I was, I would not be happy to learn that a portion of membership fees and money collected from various
fundraising events throughout the year were helping to pay for the manager's mortgage or their new car.
"Would the money not be better spent on strips for the U12s, refurbishment of the club rooms, etc?
"The wee man who cuts the grass and lines on the pitch receives no financial reward, but, of course, he wouldn't ask for it. Those people's roles are often taken for granted.
"The GAA is not just about winning the Championship – the amateur ethos of the Association is much more important. Paying for a manager will never guarantee success anyway."
Harsh reality tells us that many clubs' members have no problem paying a manager.
The key question that has to be addressed is why is it considered a breach of the rules?
Why does the so-called amateur ethos not apply to the thousands of coaching officers and administrators who are on the GAA's pay roll?
Quote from: T Fearon on January 15, 2009, 01:31:34 PM
Ah feck it, why don't you all just write to Points of View or whatever it was, presented by Arthur Murphy?
Mailbag, Pat
I'm led to believe that the Late Late insisted that the GAA pay for the Artane Boys Band
What was that infamous Late Late line ....." It started with (or on) the Late Late Show ...."?
Well I think this time RTE have a real winner - tongue in cheek!!!
This GAA Late Late has the potential to make it the very top in cult status - just because it was so so bad and managed to attract so much negative reaction. It could really confound us and go on to become a collectors item like the infamous 'Effin Eddie'.
On second thoughts, maybe that's not being fair and a dis-service to Eddie!
So, on third thought I think it should be elevated to be up there with RTE's other famous entertainment decision of in the last 12 months - sending Dustin to represent us on the Eurovision stage. What happened to Dustin since by the way?
Are the RTE heads of entertainment who make these decisions clued in or just arrogant enough to believe that they know what's best for the licence payers???
Son Of Brush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXU0R1oFmRo
:-[
drici a chara
Thank you for contacting us regarding The Late Late Show GAA Special.
The best way of being sorry is by making sure it does not happen again.
It will not happen again.
Best wishes,
The Late Late Show
Good man drici, brightened my Friday. :D
I see Setanta honoured their fondness for deferred GAA coverage as they covered this story also......today!
Jesus, what more needs to be said about it? Every fecking columnist in the country seems to be regurgitating the same gripes we all had with it as a quick fill for their articles this week.
Time to move on chaps.
Quote from: Hardy on January 16, 2009, 09:36:25 AM
Son Of Brush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXU0R1oFmRo
Good man Tommo :D
QuoteAre the RTE heads of entertainment who make these decisions clued in or just arrogant enough to believe that they know what's best for the licence payers???
Just downright arrogant and detached from reality would be the best way to describe them!
Lads someone told me Gerry McEntee wrote to one of the papers about the horror that was this programme.
Anyone know which paper (my source was very vague!).
Quote from: Jinxy on January 16, 2009, 11:15:50 PM
Lads someone told me Gerry McEntee wrote to one of the papers about the horror that was this programme.
Anyone know which paper (my source was very vague!).
From page 28 of this thread, courtesy of Shamrock Shore.........
I see former Meath great and now respected surgeon Gerry McEntee has vented his anger in today's Irish Times' letters page.
Never one to hold back.
'Late Late' tribute to the GAA
Madam, – I sincerely hope that the Late Late Show 's tribute last Friday to 125 years of the GAA is not a reflection of the forthcoming RTÉ series commemorating the anniversary. Firstly, on what basis were Bertie Ahern and Eamon Dunphy the principal guests? Surely it would have been more appropriate to have the current GAA president or the current or former ard striuratheoir open the show.
Secondly, no recognition at all was given to the enormous contribution of women to the association apart from a brief conversation with Deirdre Shefflin, who just happened to be sitting beside her husband Henry and also happened to have played camogie. Thirdly, the mimic "comedian" clearly was not vetted beforehand. He was not funny and he was downright offensive to the current Taoiseach, a true GAA supporter who did not deserve to be treated in such an insulting manner.
Finally one can only assume Des Cahill was sent on at the end to rescue Pat Kenny and a show that was dying on its feet. He duly did his best by pointing out some prominent GAA people in the audience whom Pat Kenny clearly did not recognise. This was a shambles of a "celebration", an embarrassment to RTÉ and Pat Kenny and an insult to the GAA at large. – Yours, etc,
GERRY McENTEE,
Eccles Street,
Dublin 7.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2009, 09:53:24 AM
I see former Meath great and now respected surgeon Gerry McEntee has vented his anger in today's Irish Times' letters page.
Never one to hold back.
'Late Late' tribute to the GAA
Madam, – I sincerely hope that the Late Late Show 's tribute last Friday to 125 years of the GAA is not a reflection of the forthcoming RTÉ series commemorating the anniversary. Firstly, on what basis were Bertie Ahern and Eamon Dunphy the principal guests? Surely it would have been more appropriate to have the current GAA president or the current or former ard striuratheoir open the show.
Secondly, no recognition at all was given to the enormous contribution of women to the association apart from a brief conversation with Deirdre Shefflin, who just happened to be sitting beside her husband Henry and also happened to have played camogie. Thirdly, the mimic "comedian" clearly was not vetted beforehand. He was not funny and he was downright offensive to the current Taoiseach, a true GAA supporter who did not deserve to be treated in such an insulting manner.
Finally one can only assume Des Cahill was sent on at the end to rescue Pat Kenny and a show that was dying on its feet. He duly did his best by pointing out some prominent GAA people in the audience whom Pat Kenny clearly did not recognise. This was a shambles of a "celebration", an embarrassment to RTÉ and Pat Kenny and an insult to the GAA at large. – Yours, etc,
GERRY McENTEE,
Eccles Street,
Dublin 7.
Laziness, did I ever offend thee? ;) :D
Brolly and Burns gave it a an awful doing in Gaelic life today.... Brolly compared Kenny to Roy Walker and the pre rehearsed anicdotes
link?
I am interested to see what the Chair of the 125 Committee had to say.
By Joe Brolly
Remember Roy Walker? 'Say what you see, if you see it, say it'? Remember the cringeworthy rehearsed chats with the members of the public on his Gameshow? 'John, you've got a funny story. Tell us what happened on your honeymoon night when you locked your keys in the car...'
- 'Well, Roy, what happened was, on my honeymoon night... I locked my keys in the car.... and the police had to come and open it the next morning.' Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, Roy would chortle.
Pat Kenny managed to create the same sort of atmosphere on the Late Late last Friday night. Pat is obviously a lot more at home with his neighbours in the High Court in Dublin, than hosting a GAA chat show. He didn't seem to be that sure who most of the people in the audience were, and even less sure of what they might have achieved. Peter Canavan had to work hard to conceal a smile when Pat seemed to think he had won his third All-Ireland in September past.
At one stage, when Des Cahill went off script and pointed out that Jerome and Conor O'Shea were sitting behind Jacko, his face went completely blank. This, along with the format (picking people out in the audience and inviting them to entertain the viewers with a sixty second
anecdote) was the main problem with the show.
Eamonn Dunphy, who never stood under a dropping ball on the edge of the square, but can bullshit entertainingly about anything under the sun, was the evening's star turn, which says something about the standard.
Bertie - that legendary GAA Oirishman - was trundled out to tell us how friendly he was with Paidi O'Se and Jacko. I was half expecting his daughter Cecilia, the 22 year old reincarnation of Maeve Binchey (not the one married to the Westlife chap), to be wheeled out as well to announce that her next potboiler, following on from 'PS I Love You' and 'Where Rainbows End' was going to be about a GAA man from Valencia Island falling in love with the wife of a Dublin footballer, and the two of them making love for the first time under the stand at the first round of the Leinster championship in Dalymount Park. 'PS I'm two timing you'?
Next up could have been Barry McGuigan singing Danny Boy in a green tuxedo, the camera panning across the sing-along audience.
Pat's interview with Babs Keating was pure Roy. 'So Babs', said Pat, 'tell us how you got your name?'
- 'Well Pat, there were three of us with the same name in school, so me being the youngest, they called me Babs.' Brilliant! Pat wasn't finished. 'You've got a funny story Babs, about the time a nail came through your boot in Croke Park and you had to finish the game in bare feet.'
- 'Well, Pat, I took the boot off because a nail came through it, and I played in the bare feet.' Hilarious! A bare-footed GAA man from the wilds of Tipperary fits the D4 view of the GAA as an organisation full of Kilburn Paddies perfectly.
The main theme of the program was how in the seventies, Dublin and Kerry saved the GAA. This was a new one on me, and my mind wandered to the story about the Dubs when their first All-Ireland of the decade in 1974.
One adult Dublin fan was interviewed on the pitch afterwards by RTE, and said he couldn't wait to see who they got in the first round in Europe.
Saved the GAA my arse!
Des Cahill had the decency to look embarrassed, and in fairness he did his best to give the thing some substance, but the odds were stacked against him, and he finally lost the battle when Pat Kenny proudly announced that we were to be treated to a song from a GAA icon, that was sung on the terraces in GAA grounds throughout the country. What, I wondered, might this gombeen anthem be, and who might be the performer?
Phil Coulter playing 'The Town I Loved So Well' on a crystal grand piano? Foster and Allen in green waistcoats singing 'The Rare Oul Times'?
Alas, it soon became clear it was going to be nothing as highbrow as that. A ravaged looking Brush Shiels - with his electric guitar - roared his way through a distinctly out of tune version of 'The Fields of Athenry', a famine song sung only on the terraces of Anfield and Parkhead. This was my cue, for the fifth time, to change channels for a few minutes, to get a breather from the unabated paddywhackery.
The highlight of the evening was undoubtedly Pat Spillane's face when they broadcast the Apres Match skit. Pat, who was warming to his role as an amateur GAA historian, was suddenly stopped in his tracks. A second camera closed in on the Kerryman's face, frozen in a deathly grin, like the loser in the Oscars smiling through gritted teeth, as though he were delighted that the stranger in the next row has beaten him to the award.
Priceless!
I suppose, at least, it was better than watching Fermanagh the following day in the McKenna Cup...
Any link to Jarlath's article?
well I think this is fairly unanimous... maybe we need to get over it ... zzz
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:35:32 AM
Any link to Jarlath's article?
I don't have it in sofy copy, but this was only part of Jarlath's column. He basically said that he told the LLS what topics they should be trying to cover for the show, and that they basically ignored him.
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 18, 2009, 10:59:41 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:35:32 AM
Any link to Jarlath's article?
I don't have it in sofy copy, but this was only part of Jarlath's column. He basically said that he told the LLS what topics they should be trying to cover for the show, and that they basically ignored him.
cheers, heard he wasn't too pleased at the lack of attention on the scor.
But sure the late late knew better...
He really should have been invited onto the show himself to give everyone an idea of the programme of events for the year. At least then some of these fundamental aspects of the Association would have got a mention.
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 18, 2009, 11:15:14 AM
He really should have been invited onto the show himselfto give everyone an idea of the programme of events for the year. At least then some of these fundamental aspects of the Association would have got a mention.
Heard he was, but that mighten be right.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 18, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 18, 2009, 11:15:14 AM
He really should have been invited onto the show himselfto give everyone an idea of the programme of events for the year. At least then some of these fundamental aspects of the Association would have got a mention.
Heard he was, but that mighten be right.
I can't see him having turned down an invitation at the same time - and as coordinator of the programme of events, surely he'd be obliged to go on if he was invited.
I was shocked to read in this week's OTF in the Irish News that representatives from the Omagh Scor team (All-Ireland Champions) had been invited to take part in the show but were then more or less told where to go when The Saw Doctors took preference.
What a bloody disgrace. Give me the Omagh Scor team any day ahead of The Saw Doctors or that puke Brush Shields.
I don't know what RTE pay the Saw Doctors or Brush Shields but, having seen the Omagh Scor participants perform, I do know who would have provided the greater entertainment for this show.
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 18, 2009, 11:25:19 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 18, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 18, 2009, 11:15:14 AM
He really should have been invited onto the show himselfto give everyone an idea of the programme of events for the year. At least then some of these fundamental aspects of the Association would have got a mention.
Heard he was, but that mighten be right.
I can't see him having turned down an invitation at the same time - and as coordinator of the programme of events, surely he'd be obliged to go on if he was invited.
I dont think anyone would be obliged to take part in that shite, not unless it's some sort of punishment.
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 18, 2009, 12:10:21 PM
I was shocked to read in this week's OTF in the Irish News that representatives from the Omagh Scor team (All-Ireland Champions) had been invited to take part in the show but were then more or less told where to go when The Saw Doctors took preference.
What a bloody disgrace. Give me the Omagh Scor team any day ahead of The Saw Doctors or that puke Brush Shields.
I don't know what RTE pay the Saw Doctors or Brush Shields but, having seen the Omagh Scor participants perform, I do know who would have provided the greater entertainment for this show.
Saw Doctors were one of the few positives from the night in my opinion. A good band and one whose heart lies with the GAA, they were a fitting band to start the night. Pity the night went downhill from then on
In fairness the Saw Doctors are iconic way out west, I often seen them playing on the streets prior to a big championship game in Tuam. Fail to see what problem this board has with a bunch of gaa following hoodlums like this mighty band. As I have allready stated the show was a big Dublin V Kerry love in & was not Representative of the broader gaa community, but no need for criticism of the poor auld saw doctors.
Quote from: Rudi on January 18, 2009, 01:56:16 PM
In fairness the Saw Doctors are iconic way out west, I often seen them playing on the streets prior to a big championship game in Tuam. Fail to see what problem this board has with a bunch of gaa following hoodlums like this mighty band. As I have allready stated the show was a big Dublin V Kerry love in & was not Representative of the broader gaa community, but no need for criticism of the poor auld saw doctors.
They could have put the Omagh band in somewhere.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 17, 2009, 11:29:33 AM
By Joe Brolly
I suppose, at least, it was better than watching Fermanagh the following day in the McKenna Cup...
Sound assessment from Brolly but the Donegal v Fermanagh game wasn't that bad, was it?
Quote from: FermPundit on January 18, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on January 17, 2009, 11:29:33 AM
By Joe Brolly
I suppose, at least, it was better than watching Fermanagh the following day in the McKenna Cup...
Sound assessment from Brolly but the Donegal v Fermanagh game wasn't that bad, was it?
I wondered about that comment of Brollys, he couldn't have offered a more savage indictment, could he?
He probably just said it to get a rise, you know Brolly.
Quote from: Main Street on January 18, 2009, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on January 18, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on January 17, 2009, 11:29:33 AM
By Joe Brolly
I suppose, at least, it was better than watching Fermanagh the following day in the McKenna Cup...
Sound assessment from Brolly but the Donegal v Fermanagh game wasn't that bad, was it?
I wondered about that comment of Brollys, he couldn't have offered a more savage indictment, could he?
No, I don't think he could. Anyway, the days of Fermanagh playing negative, defensive football are long gone...
Late Late Show falls flat for GAA celebration
Galway Advertiser, January 15, 2009.
Like many other sports fans I am a big admirer of much of the material produced in the RTE sports department on both TV and radio.
Programmes on television like The Sunday Game, The Premiership, coverage of the rugby championship, the Olympics, World Cups and the like, are usually professionally done and provide considerable quality entertainment.
My licence fee is paid by standing-order every August and I have no real gripe with the television directors/producers who earn their crust in Montrose. They do their job, and many of them do it very well.
In our household we are becoming more radio than TV people anyway - old age and trying to set a good example to the children are taking their toll.
I find myself listening to Morning Ireland and Drive-Time much more now, sitting in traffic, keeping up to date with all the inward bound cut-backs, pay-cuts, or independent TD allowances that are indeed "entitlements" for the chosen few.
Ideally I would prefer to keep a positive seam in this column and I'd like to point out that I think that Pat Kenny is a superb radio interviewer and presenter, but Jumping-Jack-Flash, do I find him hard to take on the Late Late Show (I did say ideally).
He is just so leaden and it all seems such hard work that it makes me feel uncomfortable. I find myself switching channels just to stop myself cringing on his behalf.
However, even that constant view-point did not prepare me for the dreadful and abysmal effort that was trotted out last Friday night as a so-called celebration of the GAA's 125 years.
It was a shocker. A genuine shocker.
So much of the show lacked élan and panache that it became very difficult to stop switching the bloody thing off.
Nevertheless, like a committed sleep-walk, I just ploughed on until the death, hoping that salvation would come from somewhere. It did not.
Kenny as anchor neither knew his subject nor his audience. And he lacked the capacity to engage in conversation or banter with many (any) of his guests - apart from a few high profile Kerry and Dublin footballers from the 1970s.
It was impossible not to laugh or squirm (your choice) when Brush Shiels (what was he doing there?) spoke about floating on air when he performed to a full house in Croke Park. Shiels described being weightless as he ran around the packed stadium, and Pat retorted by saying he too felt that way once - wait for it - "when he passed an exam he had not expected to pass".
Oh-my-god man! Just let it go.
Another major faux-pas is that there is no new material from chatting to the likes of Paidi O' Se, Mick O'Dwyer, Kevin Heffernan, Jimmy Keavney, and Jack O'Shea at this juncture. It has all been said. And their anecdotes are dated and stale. And let's be honest here, the whole goddamn show just seemed to be one big Kerry/Dublin love-in.
There was practically no mention of hurling, despite Henry Shefflin having flown half way around the world to be back for the show.Where was Brian Cody? The Connollys? DJCarey? Jimmy Barry Murphy?
Of course the west of Ireland got a really short-shift.Did the producers never hear of the Galway three-in-a-row team of the 1960s? The Roscommon team of 1942 and 1943, or the Mayo team of '50 and '51?
Why was there not a feature on any of the clubs in the country? Did their target audience consist of only Dublin and Kerry people?
The choice of show for the subject matter was incorrect.
Pat Kenny and The Late Late are one in the same, so one could argue that Pat Kenny isn't the issue, but that The Late Late should never have been used as the platform to celebrate the GAA. That was a crazy decision in the first instance, albeit a cost-effective one.
Fill up studio one with greats and former greats and give a few of them an opportunity to be nostalgic (again) and Bob's your uncle. No expensive outside broadcasts, no innovative features on contemporary Gaelic games. No vision, little entertainment value. The whole thing went down like a lead balloon.
To prove my point: The difference that Dessie Cahill made when he arrived on set was amazing. All of a sudden the mood in the audience picked up and he started - how sad is this for a presenter? - pointing out members in the crowd who should be spoken to like Peter Quinn and Conor O' Shea.
RTE should have called in producers like Paul Byrnes and Bill Lawlor from The Sunday Game team and given them a good budget and let them use their knowledge and expertise to come up with a specific show for the 125 year celebration. It was a glorious opportunity for the national station and the GAA to have worked in tandem to produce a show of which everyone would have been proud. Instead, you had a mongrel of a show that just sickened the majority of GAA people.
If you think I am alone in my views, check out the on-line survey in one of the best GAA sites in the country, Anfearrua.com where nearly 70 per cent of respondents thought the show was awful. Or, if you have a few free hours check out another GAA site, gaaboard.com where they have a television review thread on the show that goes on for almost 30 pages.
Most of the commentary is again negative and that's a real pity. Celebrations are after all meant to be fun.
http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/7163
Deja vu Gnevin,
beaten to the line by a Meathman.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10734.msg454198#msg454198 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10734.msg454198#msg454198)
Quote from: T Fearon on January 13, 2009, 12:13:32 PM
I thought the real gobshite was that Knob from Nob Nation
I agree with Fearon!! This guy was a wodious pr1ck!
Quote from: Main Street on January 20, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
Deja vu Gnevin,
beaten to the line by a Meathman.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10734.msg454198#msg454198 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10734.msg454198#msg454198)
Meathman? That's news to me, I'm sure I've been called worse I just can't remember when. ;) :D :D
I tuned in to watch this show for an entirely different reason than a lot of folks on here. I wanted to see the performance by The Saw Doctors. For all the knowledge of GAA affairs abounding on this website it seems many are unaware of the GAA links that some of the musical guests have.
One of the founder members of The Saw Doctors, Leo Moran has won a Junior C Galway County championship medal with Tuam Stars. The Saw Doctors sponsor one of the Tuam Stars' underage girls football teams. The Saw Doctors is written across the front of their jerseys when they play.
Leo Moran can also lay claim to being one of the first paid professional GAA players in Ireland. After he qualified to become a secondary school teacher he decided not to take up that role and instead took part in a FAS arts project which lead to the formation of Macnas. During half time in the 1987 Connaught Senior football final he was paid by the GAA as captain of the Macnas 'Mayo football side' against a 'Galway side.' 'Mayo' won the farcical match and Tuam man Leo stopped a point by standing on the shoulders of two of his team mates! In the real final Galway triumphed so he came out happy on all fronts.
A CD album by a band called The Folk Footballers entitled The First Fifteen was released in 2001 to celebrate Galway footballers becoming All Ireland Champions. The musicians included now retired (as a Saw Doctor) Padraig Stevens (he was responsible for the lyric that rhymed ass with mass in the hit song I Useta Lover) and Leo Moran. The 15 songs on the album are all GAA football themed numbers. In addition The Saw Doctors have written such tunes as Small Ball which is about hurling, and Broke My Heart that deals with how losing a GAA football match can break a young lad's heart. On The Saw Doctors current album Live At The Melody Tent there is a fine song called Out For A Smoke which shows concern for modern Ireland and the changes taking place. It has the wonderful lines: 'With the evenings getting shorter, I wonder can we forge another dream, Gather up the pieces and assemble another winning team.'
Incidentally the first member of the current line-up of The Saw Doctors to play in Croke Park was an Englishman. At the time however Anthony Thistletwaite was a member of The Waterboys when they played support to U2.
Brush Shiels has an album named Fields of Athenry and one of the backing singers on this album is one Mr Sean Boylan who was Meath manager at the time. In the sleeve notes he gives special thanks to: 'Sean Boylan the herbalist from Dunboyne for putting my body back in tune with my spirit and introducing me to the beauty of herbs.' Anyone who knows anything about the Irish music scene will be aware of the form of Brush Shiels in that he taught Phil Lynott to play bass guitar and then he sacked Philo from his band Skid Row!
This is not the only website to slate this show. On foot.ie, a soccer website, there is a thread running dealing with this broadcast. Some posts in that discussion are somewhat anti-GAA in nature but overall like here it is the general handling of the subject in question that prompts most outrage. A show has to be really bad to promote this amount of debate.
I tried to join this forum about two weeks ago and it is only today that I've got an email to allow me log in. Is there a reason for this delay or is this forum not very welcoming to new members?
The fact that you cannot see that the Fields of Athenry is totally and utterly inappropriate for a Gaa show, means you must haven't a notion what The Gaa is or what it represents. i rest my case.
It was not a GAA show - it was the Late Late Show. If you want to explain to me in detail why a song that was deemed good enough for the Meath manager to sing along to on an album is not now good enough for you I'm willing to read said explaination. I don't see what is wrong in any way with the song.
QuoteI tried to join this forum about two weeks ago and it is only today that I've got an email to allow me log in. Is there a reason for this delay or is this forum not very welcoming to new members?
Aye it's a big conspiracy. ::)
I think everyone knows the Saw Doctors are GAA men but are you trying to suggest that yon other eejit has a right to be on a gaa show because sean boylan was a backing singer? ::)
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It was not a GAA show - it was the Late Late Show. If you want to explain to me in detail why a song that was deemed good enough for the Meath manager to sing along to on an album is not now good enough for you I'm willing to read said explaination. I don't see what is wrong in any way with the song.
No one is saying there is anything wrong with the FOA.
The general notion nowadays is that the GAA is meant to be a bit more inclusive and if they saw fit to let Brush Shiels perform in Croke Park this is part of the new culture. It seems to me that some posters on here think you must have the GAA tattooed on your heart before you are allowed to be even let in the gate of a ground. Brush Shiels has as much right to be a fan as anyone else.
Quote from: Eoghan Mag on January 26, 2009, 12:22:19 AM
Anyone who knows anything about the Irish music scene will be aware of the form of Brush Shiels in that he taught Phil Lynott to play bass guitar and then he sacked Philo from his band Skid Row!
Quote from: AFS on January 26, 2009, 12:56:59 AM
Quote from: Eoghan Mag on January 26, 2009, 12:48:32 AM
The general notion nowadays is that the GAA is meant to be a bit more inclusive and if they saw fit to let Brush Shiels perform in Croke Park this is part of the new culture. It seems to me that some posters on here think you must have the GAA tattooed on your heart before you are allowed to be even let in the gate of a ground.Brush Shiels has as much right to be a fan as anyone else.
Pity he wouldn't exercise that right and actually go to games.
Pity he didnt give up music after that howler :D
Quote from: Eoghan Mag on January 26, 2009, 12:48:32 AM
The general notion nowadays is that the GAA is meant to be a bit more inclusive and if they saw fit to let Brush Shiels perform in Croke Park this is part of the new culture. It seems to me that some posters on here think you must have the GAA tattooed on your heart before you are allowed to be even let in the gate of a ground. Brush Shiels has as much right to be a fan as anyone else.
I think you are missing the point Eoghan, in the eyes of the vast majority mad as a Brush is very much yesterday's man. Given the huge choice of artists available who in their right mind would of chosen him over the likes of Christy Moore, Mundy, Damian Dempsey, etc. As a Connacht man I was delighted to see the Saw Doctors perform.
Not when he goes on national tv and says he hasn't watched a game in yonks. Do us a favour if your going to present a show about the Gaa I would suggest the following
- have a presenter who knows something about the Gaa
- have a presenter who knows his guests (you wouldn't get that on any other TV station in the world)
- have musical artists who conform to the genre of the programme. anyone with half a braincell knows the FOA is a soccer/rugby song. Brush Sheilds knows as much about the Gaa as Kylie Minogue. It was cringeworthy.
- Don't have photos of the winning all-ireland captain stuck in the face of the losing captain on national TV. If Kenny had of ended up in A&E he couldn't have any complaints.
- Try and include the other code. You know hurling that game thats played sticks? No mention of the greatest player in the history of hurling Christy Ring, which is the equivalent of a soccer show leaving Pele out of it.
-No mention of camogie or women in general
It was supposed to be commemorating the 125th anniversary of the Gaa. ie a landmark date. The producers had no concept of how important it was. As a result they sent out a programme that was the equivalent of what Dell Boy and Rodney would throw out with a budget of 200 euro.
QuoteChristy Moore, Mundy, Damian Dempsey
Aye ye for real? Mundy, Damien Dempsey.....how about legendary Irish performers such as The Dubliners, The Wolfe Tones, Fureys, Christy, Liam Clancy etc etc etc
Quote from: balladmaker on January 26, 2009, 01:24:38 AM
QuoteChristy Moore, Mundy, Damian Dempsey
Aye ye for real? Mundy, Damien Dempsey.....how about legendary Irish performers such as The Dubliners, The Wolfe Tones, Fureys, Christy, Liam Clancy etc etc etc
I am for real, these guys are the here and now not the old washed up legends brigade, which good and all as they were the The Dubliners, The Fureys etc. are now. It may be of been the 125th anniversary celebration of the GAA but surely that doesn't mean dragging out the oldest swingers in town one last time.
Some folks questioned the choice of musical guests and what links they had with the GAA. I pointed out some of the links that they do have even if one was a bit tenuous. If you liked the music or not is a matter for each individual to decide on their own.
Just because a song like the Fields of Athenry has become 'contected' to some other sport played in Ireland this does not make it any less 'Irish'. I would hate to be such a snob as to say that just because Molly Malone is sung at Rugby matches then it is somehow inferior or should not be regarded as 'Irish'. What I think is that except for the theme music of the Sunday Game or the Irish national anthem there is no one song that can be regarded as a universal GAA song. Perhaps this is something that the GAA could strive to have written prior to the 150th celebration as a SCOR project.
Eoghan, I don't think anyone was too bothered about the fact that they weren't GAA related songs but the musical aspect of the show can't be taken in isolation. The music was only part of a disastrous show, as you say yourself whether you liked the music or not would be down to personal taste (though I'd doubt anyone thought Brush was any good) but the point everyone has made is that every facet of the show was unimaginative, mediocre at best and lacking in entertainment.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that a song has to be connected to the GAA for people on here to regard it as Irish but on a GAA celebration show the songs should probably be associated to the GAA. But I'm not be too bothered by that as long as the songs were good, for example you could have got some of the best traditional musicians from the four provinces to play a rousing number while a montage of great GAA moments was shown.
The problem with the Late Late show was that it looked like they gave the responsibility for the show to a college student doing his work experience but he didn't bother doing anything until the Thursday so he had to pull an all nighter, it was that bad.
Quote from: Zulu on January 26, 2009, 09:17:18 PM
Eoghan, I don't think anyone was too bothered about the fact that they weren't GAA related songs but the musical aspect of the show can't be taken in isolation. The music was only part of a disastrous show, as you say yourself whether you liked the music or not would be down to personal taste (though I'd doubt anyone thought Brush was any good) but the point everyone has made is that every facet of the show was unimaginative, mediocre at best and lacking in entertainment.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that a song has to be connected to the GAA for people on here to regard it as Irish but on a GAA celebration show the songs should probably be associated to the GAA. But I'm not be too bothered by that as long as the songs were good, for example you could have got some of the best traditional musicians from the four provinces to play a rousing number while a montage of great GAA moments was shown.
The problem with the Late Late show was that it looked like they gave the responsibility for the show to a college student doing his work experience but he didn't bother doing anything until the Thursday so he had to pull an all nighter, it was that bad.
heh some of my best work at college resulted from desperate all nighters!!! ;D
I loved seeing Barney's last minute goal against Cork in 1983 again ;D
Great composure shown by the 5 men (Canavan, Duff, Mullins, Hazely, Rock) in the move, and no panic even though the situation was perilous (somethin the current crop could do with learning!).
And of course it brought back all the fantastic memories of the trip to Cork for the replay...
Great show 8)
Was at that first Dublin Cork game myself.Along with the Dubs Roscommon semi in 1979 I would rate these as the best games I've seen in Croker not involving Armagh
Tony your living in the past forget 79 92 think of 2009! ;)
Quote from: Eoghan Mag on January 26, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Some folks questioned the choice of musical guests and what links they had with the GAA. I pointed out some of the links that they do have even if one was a bit tenuous. If you liked the music or not is a matter for each individual to decide on their own.
Just because a song like the Fields of Athenry has become 'contected' to some other sport played in Ireland this does not make it any less 'Irish'. I would hate to be such a snob as to say that just because Molly Malone is sung at Rugby matches then it is somehow inferior or should not be regarded as 'Irish'. What I think is that except for the theme music of the Sunday Game or the Irish national anthem there is no one song that can be regarded as a universal GAA song. Perhaps this is something that the GAA could strive to have written prior to the 150th celebration as a SCOR project.
the gaa and scor promotes irish culture and heritage........ Last yrs all ireland winning ballad group were suppose to be on the show and had been preparing for it, however r.t.e canceled them at the last minute.... ! scor is officially a part of the G.A.A so why if this was ignored would you have "some of the links" ?
and in my opinion brush sheils singing the fields of athenry is not a link!
Quote from: leenie on January 27, 2009, 11:39:37 PM
the gaa and scor promotes irish culture and heritage........ Last yrs all ireland winning ballad group were suppose to be on the show and had been preparing for it, however r.t.e canceled them at the last minute.... ! scor is officially a part of the G.A.A so why if this was ignored would you have "some of the links" ?
and in my opinion brush sheils singing the fields of athenry is not a link!
The missing one ??
Quote from: Eoghan Mag on January 26, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
What I think is that except for the theme music of the Sunday Game or the Irish national anthem there is no one song that can be regarded as a universal GAA song. Perhaps this is something that the GAA could strive to have written prior to the 150th celebration as a SCOR project.
In my opinion, the "Gaelic Games of Ireland" song (don't know the exact title) sung by the Aughagallon Ballad Group in Scor All Irelands around 1999/2000 was good enough to be promoted as a universal GAA song had anyone at top level been interested in doing so.
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Simple question. Is a gobshite from Meath any better or worse than Brush?
And what has Sharon Shannon and Mundy singing a song written by Steve Earle got to do with the GAA?
Methinks RTE have been harshly criticised
So you're saying everyone else is wrong when they say it was crap! Are you related to Pat Kenny?
Not at all. Just pointing out imo, Hector, Sharon Shannon and Mundy are of similar relevant to the GAA as the likes of Brush Shiells, yet the GAA has organised this Saturday night's event themselves. Where are the Scor groups etc on Saturday night, that everyone said should have been on the Late Late Show?
Also Jarlath was one of the Late Late Show's Biggest critics.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 29, 2009, 02:57:17 PM
Not at all. Just pointing out imo, Hector, Sharon Shannon and Mundy are of similar relevant to the GAA as the likes of Brush Shiells, yet the GAA has organised this Saturday night's event themselves. Where are the Scor groups etc on Saturday night, that everyone said should have been on the Late Late Show?
Its one thing inviting the likes of Brush Shiels to sing on a show, its another thing altogether to interview him at length on a subject he neither knows nor cares much about. If the GAA propose to interview Sharon Shannon for 15 minutes on Saturday evening, all hell will break loose.
Well I would assume Hector will be rambling on,for the most part, incoherently in his Navan bog accent. Is this really any worse or better than the recent Late Late show, in all honesty?
Didn't Kenny introduce the FoA song as one sung on the terraces throughout the land ???
Awful rendition by Brush of the ballad anyway.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 29, 2009, 03:47:42 PM
Well I would assume Hector will be rambling on,for the most part, incoherently in his Navan bog accent. Is this really any worse or better than the recent Late Late show, in all honesty?
In this particular respect, probably worse.
Hector = good reason to arrive just before throw-in.
Half time entertainment = good reason to go to jacks/buy drink.
If Brush appears can someone take him out please and I don't mean for a drink!
Meh!
I see Jarlath is still giving out about it in today's Gaelic Life.
He indicates that the RTE want to do another programme to properly mark the 125th anniversary.
This show and its backlash killed kenny.
That'd be deadly. Kenny runs onto the field on AIF day reeking of drink, unshaven and dazed. He grabs the ball off Fergal Doherty and boots it over the Hill, shouting 'fcuk yis'.
Spot the ridiculous event in the above nonsense.
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2009, 09:49:23 AM
That'd be deadly. Kenny runs onto the field on AIF day reeking of drink, unshaven and dazed. He grabs the ball off Fergal Doherty and boots it over the Hill, shouting 'fcuk yis'.
Spot the ridiculous event in the above nonsense.
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Well done.
You win two tickets for the live audience at Gerry Kelly's BBC Radio Ulster debut.
At the Tyrone derry game last week, a sagey old man in the corporate section said to me that had Enda Muldoon been allowed to play for his county of birth and of choice he would have had 3 all ireland medals and be shortly looking at a 4th. His intercounty career must feel like a penance.