China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

johnson now moving the goalposts double jabbed not to classed as vaxxed

That could be because *checks notes*, immunity wanes as it does with all vaccines.

Immunity wanes from infection also. Being infected way back last April will be of limited benefit now, unless you were vaccinated in the meantime.

[Milltown Row2]

Swan now wanting covid passwords, followed by Eastwood. Seriously are these people stupid? Waterford the most vaccinated place in Ireland with the highest covid rate. The south introduced covid passports, it has really worked, hasn't it? Answers on a post stamp ffs.

What way do the passwords work? 8 words and at least one caps ?

[From the Bunker]

It's great to have the unvaxxed to blame? They provide a great Red Herring excuse for the massive failure of the Vaccine(s).

Remember the Vaccine efficiency promises and the Scientific Stats back in the beginning of the year?

What were they again? What is the latest figure on Efficiency?

They have fairly crumbled?

The unvaxxed will provide a sort of side-show and keep the Boosters rolling with the promise of Luke O'Neill that they should last 3 years.

[Milltown Row2]

What do you feel we should do though? Not get vaccinated and just carry on with washing our hands 2 metre rule and  lockup the vulnerable?

[imtommygunn]

The vaccine is not a massive failure.

I don't buy into the blame unvaxxed for everything but the vaccine is not a massive failure. If it was then how did we get normality at all? I was in the Avila with 50k people on Thursday. Without the vaccine that would not have happened.

It is not as silver a bullet as e had hoped but mutations and other factors come into that.

If you think it is a massive failure then I would suggest you need to take a look at your expectations.

[seafoid]

It's great to have the unvaxxed to blame? They provide a great Red Herring excuse for the massive failure of the Vaccine(s).

Remember the Vaccine efficiency promises and the Scientific Stats back in the beginning of the year?

What were they again? What is the latest figure on Efficiency?

They have fairly crumbled?

The unvaxxed will provide a sort of side-show and keep the Boosters rolling with the promise of Luke O'Neill that they should last 3 years.

Delta came later and changed the game.
Vaccination is still better.
Delta means non vaccination is more dangerous.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-one-in-10-people-infected-since-pandemic-began-as-4-570-new-cases-reported-1.4729093 

 

A further 4,570 cases of Covid-19 have been reported in the State, bringing the total number of people infected in the Republic since the pandemic began to over 500,000 - or one in 10 people in the State.

[seafoid]

The vaccine is not a massive failure.

I don't buy into the blame unvaxxed for everything but the vaccine is not a massive failure. If it was then how did we get normality at all? I was in the Avila with 50k people on Thursday. Without the vaccine that would not have happened.

It is not as silver a bullet as e had hoped but mutations and other factors come into that.

If you think it is a massive failure then I would suggest you need to take a look at your expectations.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-one-in-10-people-infected-since-pandemic-began-as-4-570-new-cases-reported-1.4729093

Dr O'Loughlin, who is a specialist in the Mater hospital and the president of the Intensive Care Society of Ireland, on Monday said the vaccinations were tested on people who had the original strain of the disease not the Delta variant.

[Eire90]

vaxx passports made people think they could galivant all over the country look at the netherlands had vaxx passports now in lockdown think i seen belgiums most vaccinated region has highest case numbers too like waterford

[Blowitupref]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-one-in-10-people-infected-since-pandemic-began-as-4-570-new-cases-reported-1.4729093 

 

A further 4,570 cases of Covid-19 have been reported in the State, bringing the total number of people infected in the Republic since the pandemic began to over 500,000 - or one in 10 people in the State.

That's 500,000 out of 8,523,650 people tested since the virus began, be interesting to see the stats on how many was infected twice.

[StPatsAbu]

vaxx passports made people think they could galivant all over the country look at the netherlands had vaxx passports now in lockdown think i seen belgiums most vaccinated region has highest case numbers too like waterford

They'd have been better off sterilising the population of Waterford than wasting vaccines on them

[lenny]

It's great to have the unvaxxed to blame? They provide a great Red Herring excuse for the massive failure of the Vaccine(s).

Remember the Vaccine efficiency promises and the Scientific Stats back in the beginning of the year?

What were they again? What is the latest figure on Efficiency?

They have fairly crumbled?

The unvaxxed will provide a sort of side-show and keep the Boosters rolling with the promise of Luke O'Neill that they should last 3 years.

Passports in other words are pointless. Lots of evidence yet these people proposing it. There are lots of sheep.

Modelling has shown that vaccine passports will reduce transmission by 30% plus. That will make a massive difference in terms of reducing pressure on hospitals. Nobody is being forced to get vaccinated but people who choose that option shouldn't be putting other people in danger by going into crowds. It's urgent that we do something quickly, the health service is crying out for it. It's down to 2 choices- vaccine passports or complete lockdown again.

[armaghniac]

Passports in other words are pointless. Lots of evidence yet these people proposing it. There are lots of sheep.

OK then, you tell us what should be done to moderate demand on the health services. We await with interest some new ideas.

[seafoid]

I think it's basic enough. Reduce contact.
Handwashing. Masks

[Milltown Row2]

I think it's basic enough. Reduce contact.
Handwashing. Masks

Lock up the vulnerable? Those with underlying conditions...