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Re: Karadzic; genocide conviction
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2016, 01:48:33 PM »
I think Jordan has made a reasonable effort without the excesses of Saddam.
Jordan is a US ally. Iraq wasn'T.  Iraq always had the best educated Arabsm
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2021, 07:25:56 PM »
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/europe/953073/why-ratko-mladic-butcher-of-bosnia-still-hero-balkans

There is a great article in today's UK Times (behind a paywall unfortunately), this crowd seemed to have knocked most of it off. A good, chilling read.

“Glorification and denial of genocide are very much stronger than five or ten years ago – and I have been in this job for 13 years,” Brammertz said, adding that “the underlying attitudes are still present with many politicians and will be over many years to come”.


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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2021, 09:42:38 PM »
It's been festering for Centuries. I took a notion a few years back and read 3 or 4 books on the Balkans, fascinating and terrible stuff. If you come back in another hundred years the tensions will still be simmering.

I would like to know more of the reasons behind the hatred and would like to do a bit of background reading so I'd be grateful for any recommendations you may have.
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2021, 02:34:04 AM »
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/europe/953073/why-ratko-mladic-butcher-of-bosnia-still-hero-balkans

There is a great article in today's UK Times (behind a paywall unfortunately), this crowd seemed to have knocked most of it off. A good, chilling read.

“Glorification and denial of genocide are very much stronger than five or ten years ago – and I have been in this job for 13 years,” Brammertz said, adding that “the underlying attitudes are still present with many politicians and will be over many years to come”.

Why don't you copy and paste the article in its entirety, I'm pretty sure the mad mod (that's you Ziggy) won't mind.

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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2021, 02:52:47 AM »
It's been festering for Centuries. I took a notion a few years back and read 3 or 4 books on the Balkans, fascinating and terrible stuff. If you come back in another hundred years the tensions will still be simmering.

I would like to know more of the reasons behind the hatred and would like to do a bit of background reading so I'd be grateful for any recommendations you may have.
Cheers.
The BBC documentary series on the whole saga since Tito passed on to Valhalla, is the bee's knees.
Episodes are all on you tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDADy9b2IBM

But it only touches on the lingering traumas from WW2 time. Serbs fought  the Nazis, Fascist Croats  lied down in bed with the Nazis and Moslems were caught in between.   The Serb nationalism that emerged in modern day (1990) was a malignant after effect, turbo DUP.

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2021, 10:15:32 AM »
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/europe/953073/why-ratko-mladic-butcher-of-bosnia-still-hero-balkans

There is a great article in today's UK Times (behind a paywall unfortunately), this crowd seemed to have knocked most of it off. A good, chilling read.

“Glorification and denial of genocide are very much stronger than five or ten years ago – and I have been in this job for 13 years,” Brammertz said, adding that “the underlying attitudes are still present with many politicians and will be over many years to come”.

Why don't you copy and paste the article in its entirety, I'm pretty sure the mad mod (that's you Ziggy) won't mind.
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2021, 03:53:26 PM »
The BBC documentary Death of Yugoslavia is up on Youtube, great documentary work but chilling.
That really belongs in the great documentaries thread, an epic work.

Agreed. I recall watching it on TV at the time and have watched the entire series twice more on YouTube.

I always used to watch reports / read up on the Balkans War and used to ponder if such a scenario might have unfolded for us in the North, if things had significantly deteriorated in the early 1970s, as it threatened to once or twice. 


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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2021, 04:41:32 PM »
The BBC documentary Death of Yugoslavia is up on Youtube, great documentary work but chilling.
That really belongs in the great documentaries thread, an epic work.

Agreed. I recall watching it on TV at the time and have watched the entire series twice more on YouTube.

I always used to watch reports / read up on the Balkans War and used to ponder if such a scenario might have unfolded for us in the North, if things had significantly deteriorated in the early 1970s, as it threatened to once or twice.

Have done some research into this topic but looking to expand my knowledge... apart from the above youtube series are there any other videos that are quality viewing?

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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2021, 04:52:28 PM »
The Balkans in Flames is shown regularly on the PBS America Channel on the Sky platform. Have it recorded, not sure if it is available on demand atm.

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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2021, 07:55:18 PM »
There's the powerful BBC's Storyville 1999 documentary, A Cry From the Grave about the Srebrenica massacre


in 5 parts on YT
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-DUsQyklUM&list=PLBB0910340FFA42BB

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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2021, 08:54:18 PM »
BBC News - Srebrenica massacre: UN court rejects Mladic genocide appeal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57346523

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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2021, 09:02:17 PM »
BBC News - Srebrenica massacre: UN court rejects Mladic genocide appeal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57346523

Seen that tonight on channel four news, there are still over 3,500 people that they want for war crimes during that period! It’s taken 25 years to nail that Cnut!

Taking people off buses separating the women from the men and boys  and murdering them and shoving them into mass graves!! A life sentence is too good for this monster
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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2021, 10:13:41 PM »
The BBC documentary Death of Yugoslavia is up on Youtube, great documentary work but chilling.

Thanks for recommending this. What an amazing documentary. I lived through the period but amazing how little I actually knew about it. Chilling indeed and a terrible stain on the EU's credibility.

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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2021, 10:22:56 PM »
The BBC documentary Death of Yugoslavia is up on Youtube, great documentary work but chilling.
That really belongs in the great documentaries thread, an epic work.

Agreed. I recall watching it on TV at the time and have watched the entire series twice more on YouTube.

I always used to watch reports / read up on the Balkans War and used to ponder if such a scenario might have unfolded for us in the North, if things had significantly deteriorated in the early 1970s, as it threatened to once or twice.

Have done some research into this topic but looking to expand my knowledge... apart from the above youtube series are there any other videos that are quality viewing?
The Balkans by Misha Glenny is supposed to be a fantastic read. It's on my hit list

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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2021, 12:25:08 AM »
There is another recent film called Quo Vadis Aida? It was nominated for a foreign film oscar 2021, should have won hands down.
Not for the faint at heart.

The vast majority of Serbs deny the Bosnian genocide took place .
When Celtic played Sarajevo in a  CLQ a few years ago  the local fans behind the goal  unfurled a huge banner for the duration of the game which read something like 'Remember Srebrenica'. I thik it's of vital importance that Karadzic was found guilty for his crimes  by the intl  court, even if he's a feeble withered geeezer. It offers the highest quality internation  recognition that not only did the massacre take place but it was ordered from the top.