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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 20, 2021, 11:15:17 PM »
What he said (what you claim he said) is widely at odds with the most recently available official government data.

Of course there is a lag in data getting published so subsequent publications might show the vast majority are indeed unvaccinated but we can wait for that and revisit in a few weeks.  It will take a hell of a shift all the same.

Did you catch a name by the way?  I am not finding much by way of reference to ‘the Medical Federation UK’ let alone who it’s head is.

Or even what time he was on as I am genuinely interested to hear what he said so can grab off the catch up.
Any chance you could explain what's happening in Romania, buddy? Here are their figures for you again.

Population 19.29 million
Vaccinated: 29.5%

Covid cases yesterday: 18,863
Covid deaths yesterday: 561 (five hundred and sixty-one)

Would you agree that these figures, when compared against the currently miniscule death figures in widely vaccinated countries like Ireland are a very clear demonstration of the benefits of vaccines and the dangers of widespread non-vaccination?

Sid I think you are mistaking me for someone who is anti vaccination.
Yis all say that.

Any chance you might explain the figures?

Any chance you would stop trying to shape everything around your world view?

Explanation is maybe quite simple i.e. fewer at risk vaccinated.

But could really do with some more info before drawing inferences.

Mortality by vaccination status and age group a good start.

Certainly does nothing to substantiate calls by sickos to vaccinate children and healthy young adults to protect them or pacify their fears.

So you admit vaccination works.

And then you turn around and call the concept of vaccinating children, which we do for a whole range of illnesses, "sick".

You're obviously a deep thinker.  ;D


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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 20, 2021, 03:57:07 PM »
What he said (what you claim he said) is widely at odds with the most recently available official government data.

Of course there is a lag in data getting published so subsequent publications might show the vast majority are indeed unvaccinated but we can wait for that and revisit in a few weeks.  It will take a hell of a shift all the same.

Did you catch a name by the way?  I am not finding much by way of reference to ‘the Medical Federation UK’ let alone who it’s head is.

Or even what time he was on as I am genuinely interested to hear what he said so can grab off the catch up.
Any chance you could explain what's happening in Romania, buddy? Here are their figures for you again.

Population 19.29 million
Vaccinated: 29.5%

Covid cases yesterday: 18,863
Covid deaths yesterday: 561 (five hundred and sixty-one)

Would you agree that these figures, when compared against the currently miniscule death figures in widely vaccinated countries like Ireland are a very clear demonstration of the benefits of vaccines and the dangers of widespread non-vaccination?

Sid I think you are mistaking me for someone who is anti vaccination.
Yis all say that.

Any chance you might explain the figures?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 20, 2021, 02:35:01 PM »
What he said (what you claim he said) is widely at odds with the most recently available official government data.

Of course there is a lag in data getting published so subsequent publications might show the vast majority are indeed unvaccinated but we can wait for that and revisit in a few weeks.  It will take a hell of a shift all the same.

Did you catch a name by the way?  I am not finding much by way of reference to ‘the Medical Federation UK’ let alone who it’s head is.

Or even what time he was on as I am genuinely interested to hear what he said so can grab off the catch up.
Any chance you could explain what's happening in Romania, buddy? Here are their figures for you again.

Population 19.29 million
Vaccinated: 29.5%

Covid cases yesterday: 18,863
Covid deaths yesterday: 561 (five hundred and sixty-one)

Would you agree that these figures, when compared against the currently miniscule death figures in widely vaccinated countries like Ireland are a very clear demonstration of the benefits of vaccines and the dangers of widespread non-vaccination?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 20, 2021, 12:03:19 PM »
Romania

Population 19.29 million
Vaccinated: 29.5%

Covid cases yesterday: 18,863
Covid deaths yesterday: 561 (five hundred and sixty-one)

Get vaccinated.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 19, 2021, 01:53:22 PM »

And to think we have people shouting for vaccination of children to protect adults.  Aside from being completely counter intuitive for humans to use children as a shield it is the adults themselves, in most cases, who could protect themselves.
You realise that we already vaccinate babies for lots of things, yes?

What is the ideological objection to vaccinating children of all ages for Covid if and when the vaccines are approved for children of all ages?

I can only think it would be an ideological objection to vaccinating children for anything?


Sorry I thought this thread was about the Coronavirus that has been encroaching on all our lives with its specific vulnerable groups.
Are you ideologically opposed to vaccinating children for everything, or just for Covid?

I am not against vaccination.  Rather I am for appropriateness, choice and an informed public. 

Anyway as with my last post.  Lot of what I am saying appears lost on some who seem intent on a pointless exercise of forcing people towards vaccination so will leave it at that and they can gang up on the next person who tries to propose an alternative solution to reducing pressure in our hospitals.
You're engaging in meaningless sloganeering. What you posted here literally doesn't mean anything.

If you're not against vaccination for children for everything there's literally no valid reason at all to be against it for Covid when it is approved for 11 and under.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 19, 2021, 12:06:15 PM »

And to think we have people shouting for vaccination of children to protect adults.  Aside from being completely counter intuitive for humans to use children as a shield it is the adults themselves, in most cases, who could protect themselves.
You realise that we already vaccinate babies for lots of things, yes?

What is the ideological objection to vaccinating children of all ages for Covid if and when the vaccines are approved for children of all ages?

I can only think it would be an ideological objection to vaccinating children for anything?


Sorry I thought this thread was about the Coronavirus that has been encroaching on all our lives with its specific vulnerable groups.
Are you ideologically opposed to vaccinating children for everything, or just for Covid?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 19, 2021, 11:19:59 AM »

And to think we have people shouting for vaccination of children to protect adults.  Aside from being completely counter intuitive for humans to use children as a shield it is the adults themselves, in most cases, who could protect themselves.
You realise that we already vaccinate babies for lots of things, yes?

What is the ideological objection to vaccinating children of all ages for Covid if and when the vaccines are approved for children of all ages?

I can only think it would be an ideological objection to vaccinating children for anything?




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GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 18, 2021, 09:48:31 PM »
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https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1450109412463497223

Michael Reynolds, Leinster GAA Secretary showing what he thinks of the players views here.

Heard him on Newstalk there now.

He was pretty adamant that a Leinster Championship without All Ireland progression would be meaningless.

Surely he shouldn’t need explained the Catch 22 here i.e. if the competition is meaningless in its own right, then why fight so hard for its retention ?
Again I make the comparison between the provincial championships and American football's divisional championships.

If the divisional championships were taken out of the NFL season proper and played off as a 3 or a 6 game round robin in pre-season, would they matter?

The NFL actually show how a provincial system could work compared to the current shit show. League based to tournament with the best teams going forward into the knock out stages.

Even in the league games fixtures are based on the previous years performance so the worst performing teams get to play against each other and the best test get the tougher fixtures. Yet another sport showing that matching teams of similar ability against each other is entertaining and people will go to watch.

It's farcical that the secretary of Leinster GAA thinks keeping the current system is a good idea. I wonder how many games he goes to every year?

Clearly it all comes down to how much money he thinks Leinster council will get and how important his roll will be when deciding on what's best for the future
If you want a league based championship and believe that the NFL know how to run one, wouldn't you be calling for all teams to be classed on an equal footing?

ie. 4 groups of 8 based on a random open draw?

Dublin, Kerry and Tyrone could end up in the same group, playing for only two qualification spots.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
« on: October 18, 2021, 09:23:20 PM »
Quote
https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1450109412463497223

Michael Reynolds, Leinster GAA Secretary showing what he thinks of the players views here.

Heard him on Newstalk there now.

He was pretty adamant that a Leinster Championship without All Ireland progression would be meaningless.

Surely he shouldn’t need explained the Catch 22 here i.e. if the competition is meaningless in its own right, then why fight so hard for its retention ?
Again I make the comparison between the provincial championships and American football's divisional championships.

If the divisional championships were taken out of the NFL season proper and played off as a 3 or a 6 game round robin in pre-season, would they matter?


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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2021-22
« on: October 18, 2021, 02:10:10 PM »
Looks like a few posters here have bought into Sky's pro-Saudi propaganda.

In reality, there's no difference whatsoever between Mohammed Bin Salman and the murderer of David Amess.

It's just that certain posters here, most of the media, the Premier League and the UK Government think one is an appropriate person to own a football club and the other isn't.

I think it is worse. The Saudi regime involves state sponsored human rights abuses, war crimes and abuse of women.

It's like a narco terrorist, who is worse, those giving the orders or the actual hitman? I would suggest that those at the top are far worse, just that they have the money and power which protects them. In the Newcastle case, it's blatant sportswashing.   

You're right.

I think what happens on Sky over the next while is going to be very interesting. They've seen fit to have a go at Mike Ashley, the Glazers, FSG etc. in the past.

But those are private individuals and widely unpopular with supporters. And they will not fight back to near the same extent as the state sponsored reputation laundering vehicles like Newcastle, Manchester City, Chelsea or PSG.

Ashley, the Glazers and John Henry are small fry by comparison.

So Sky sees it as acceptable to criticise them.

They will NOT go after the real big boys - the Saudi state, the Abu Dhabi city state, the Qatari state, the Russian state (through Putin's buddy Abramovich).

They will NEVER go after the entrenched interests of big gambling in the Premier League.

They will employ Jamie Redknapp to try and make people think Newcastle has been bought by Mary Poppins, without disclosing that Redknapp himself is a business partner of Jamie Reuben, a financier who is a major part of the whole rotten deal.

Sky's coverage yesterday was sickening. It was Goebbels-esque.

All about protecting "investments".

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2021-22
« on: October 18, 2021, 01:48:10 PM »
Looks like a few posters here have bought into Sky's pro-Saudi propaganda.

In reality, there's no difference whatsoever between Mohammed Bin Salman and the murderer of David Amess.

It's just that certain posters here, most of the media, the Premier League and the UK Government think one is an appropriate person to own a football club and the other isn't.


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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 18, 2021, 01:03:20 PM »
so much misinformation and lies. read this about the Mater and further down in the article about another claim by at another hospital reported by the BBC

https://citizenjournos.com/2021/10/06/confirmed-the-mater-hospital-was-not-full-of-unvaccinated-20-30-year-olds-on-ventilators-on-the-22nd-july/?fbclid=IwAR00_KAGnsV3eH56NBd0onAfSk6KgqOoyYtecWjAnCBbE9B8bEjMrw3eXs0
That "Citizen Journos" yoke is an anti-vaccine propaganda site.

It has less credibility as a source of Covid information than your local drug dealer.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2021-22
« on: October 18, 2021, 08:47:18 AM »
Wonder who Newcastle will get in as manager now. You'd think the murderer of David Amess must be in with a right shout?

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: October 16, 2021, 08:27:53 PM »
United clearly need a new manager. They need a proven winner, an outsider who will come in and disrupt the cosy cliques and shape the club in their own image for the long term. They need somebody who was won the Champions League as both a player and a manager.

They need Frank Lampard.
Lampard hasn’t won the champions league as manager. Try again.
Frank has won the Champions League as a manager. He won it last season.

But the greats always push themselves, they look for a new challenge.

That challenge is undoubtedly Manchester United.

Lamps and Ronny would be some dream team. Mouthwatering.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: October 16, 2021, 05:35:39 PM »
United clearly need a new manager. They need a proven winner, an outsider who will come in and disrupt the cosy cliques and shape the club in their own image for the long term. They need somebody who was won the Champions League as both a player and a manager.

They need Frank Lampard.

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