Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[tbrick18]

Sure the lucks been hanging out of the penalty Kick Champs (X2), why change anything? just go full of the bull until it goes pear shaped and then think about it.

Any examples of when other Ulster teams didn't go all out to win Ulster and as a direct result they won an AI?

In the second year if the current competition?

Tyrone had a fair degree of ambivalence to the USFC in noughties. But I'm sure that's the response you were waiting for to refute it.

Harte and the players?

"A couple of years we were of the mindset that we were going to win the All-Ireland and were beaten in the first round. It didn't do us any harm. We went on to win it from there twice."

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/tyrone-legend-sean-cavanagh-issues-28938977#google_vignette


A quote from Sean Cavanagh today funny enough.

Cavanagh is becoming the new Joe Brolly.

Cavanagh hasn't an original thought it his head.
You'd think they went out to lose first round games.
If he's on RTE, or Cora Staunton, I switch over. I'd rather watch cardboard commentating.

[tbrick18]

Fair play Cavan, deserved the win to be fair.
First half was brutal though from both teams.
I think this is 2 teams heading in opposite directions passing each other, Monaghan are on the slide with their better players aging whereas Cavan are improving.
I think Cavan will give Tyrone a real game of it. Tyrone nothing to be afraid of at the minute. They've had 1 decent half of football all year against a depleted Mayo team, so it's even hard to read much into that.

Cavan could well edge it playing the way the did in the final quarter of that game.

[nrico2006]

Beggan was basically walking back when the break for the 3rd goal was on, looked very bad.

[Cavan19]

Fair play Cavan, deserved the win to be fair.
First half was brutal though from both teams.
I think this is 2 teams heading in opposite directions passing each other, Monaghan are on the slide with their better players aging whereas Cavan are improving.
I think Cavan will give Tyrone a real game of it. Tyrone nothing to be afraid of at the minute. They've had 1 decent half of football all year against a depleted Mayo team, so it's even hard to read much into that.

Cavan could well edge it playing the way the did in the final quarter of that game.

I though Cavan were brilliant in the first half 

[Dreadnought]

Well dunno where that came from but up Cavan. Beggan mom, what are they smoking in BBC?

Ridiculous decision, they were dying to give it to Beggan simply due to the fact that he got an NFL trial.

Personally thought Beggan should have done better for that first goal in injury time.

Thought he was poor for all 3 goals. The 3rd one he was obviously up the field and was ambling back, but even the first 2 goals he was rooted to the spot and didn't make a move or dive or such. His kicking was decent as usual, but could see that time out of playing and moving did affect him

[Truthsayer]

Beggan was basically walking back when the break for the 3rd goal was on, looked very bad.

Was do or die at that stage. The player to blame was the one who lost possession. Beggan would have needed a motorbike to get back..

[yellowcard]

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

[Itchy]

Well dunno where that came from but up Cavan. Beggan mom, what are they smoking in BBC?

Ridiculous decision, they were dying to give it to Beggan simply due to the fact that he got an NFL trial.

Personally thought Beggan should have done better for that first goal in injury time.

Thought he was poor for all 3 goals. The 3rd one he was obviously up the field and was ambling back, but even the first 2 goals he was rooted to the spot and didn't make a move or dive or such. His kicking was decent as usual, but could see that time out of playing and moving did affect him

I think that is harsh. Faulkner absolutely belted the ball, there was no stopping it and Gerry gave him no chance either. The last goal was due to a turnover and a quick 50 meter pass, if he had a jet suit on he wasn't getting back for that! Jesus very harsh to blame the keeper. He also made one outstanding save in the first half from Lynch.

Now the question around should he have started or not, well everyone in the crowd and in the chats before hand fully expected him to start so I think it was never in doubt.

[Dreadnought]

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

It was Philly McMahon who gave it to him. I agree it was silly, but to give some context he gave it late into injury time and literally seconds before Lynch scored the 3rd one. He then even joked that he made the call too soon. Not sure why they need to make the call before the game is over though

[Westside]

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

It was Philly McMahon who gave it to him. I agree it was silly, but to give some context he gave it late into injury time and literally seconds before Lynch scored the 3rd one. He then even joked that he made the call too soon. Not sure why they need to make the call before the game is over though

It was a nonsense call from McMahon whether it was made just before or just after the goal.

Lynch gathering a pass and kicking to an empty net shouldn't have made a difference to the decision.

He had kicked 8/8 frees, got a beauty from play and his contribution won Cavan the game. Beggan had failed to make a save for 2/3 shots he faced up to that point, had missed a free and a 45. Was one excellent save, a couple of frees and one shot from play in a game they were losing by 3 with time up really enough? I don't think so.

[Itchy]

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

It was Philly McMahon who gave it to him. I agree it was silly, but to give some context he gave it late into injury time and literally seconds before Lynch scored the 3rd one. He then even joked that he made the call too soon. Not sure why they need to make the call before the game is over though

I think even before Lynch got the last goal it was a ridiculous call. Like based on what? At that point Lynch had 9 points. 8 dead balls from 8, every bit as difficult as Beggans. Beggan has conceded 2 goals, Looked set to be on the losing team and I think had missed 2 or 3 dead balls. Utterly bizarre call. I can imagine he would have been pretty embarrassed by it

[Dreadnought]

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

It was Philly McMahon who gave it to him. I agree it was silly, but to give some context he gave it late into injury time and literally seconds before Lynch scored the 3rd one. He then even joked that he made the call too soon. Not sure why they need to make the call before the game is over though

It was a nonsense call from McMahon whether it was made just before or just after the goal.

Lynch gathering a pass and kicking to an empty net shouldn't have made a difference to the decision.

He had kicked 8/8 frees, got a beauty from play and his contribution won Cavan the game. Beggan had failed to make a save for 2/3 shots he faced up to that point, had missed a free and a 45. Was one excellent save, a couple of frees and one shot from play in a game they were losing by 3 with time up really enough? I don't think so.

Oh yeah, completely agree. Even without the last goal Beggan mixed the good with the poor. Lynch or Faulkner were my shouts. This call seemed to be the pundit who doesn't know anything outside of the Division 1 teams, and got caught up in the Beggan returning stuff

[Dreadnought]

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

It was Philly McMahon who gave it to him. I agree it was silly, but to give some context he gave it late into injury time and literally seconds before Lynch scored the 3rd one. He then even joked that he made the call too soon. Not sure why they need to make the call before the game is over though

I think even before Lynch got the last goal it was a ridiculous call. Like based on what? At that point Lynch had 9 points. 8 dead balls from 8, every bit as difficult as Beggans. Beggan has conceded 2 goals, Looked set to be on the losing team and I think had missed 2 or 3 dead balls. Utterly bizarre call. I can imagine he would have been pretty embarrassed by it

Oh yeah absolutely, was just adding the context as to what happened. It was silly to even consider him and he got caught up in the NFL and returning hype

[thebigfullforward]

I would love to see teams launching kickouts out on top of the opposition goalkeeper when he comes out to stand on one side of the pitch during kickouts it's a great platform to attack and go for goal if they opposition don't win it as there is 65m of open field to drive into.

Agree. Not sure why this isnt done. There is no risk to the team with the kickout but there is a potential for a huge reward

Probably because you will be outnumbered under the ball if you do that?

Yeah there obviously is a risk. We literally seen it yesterday in the first half when Cavan keeper kicked it out and all the Monaghan player had to do was tap it back to Beggan and Monaghan had possession again

[AustinPowers]

I see Clones finally got some catch  nets behind the goals

Or were they there  last year? I don't recall seeing them  before