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Title: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on May 19, 2021, 08:11:03 PM
The France Squad for the Euros was announced yesterday. Benzema back after a 6 year absence

GK: Hugo Lloris, (Tottenham Hotspur)
GK: Steve Mandanda, (Marseille)
GK: Mike Maignan, (Lille)

DF: Raphaël Varane, (Real Madrid)
DF: Jules Kounde, (Sevilla)
DF: Lucas Digne, (Everton)
DF: Benjamin Pavard, (Bayern Munich)
DF: Lucas Hernandez, (Bayern Munich)
DF: Presnel Kimpembe, (Paris Saint-Germain)
DF: Clement Lenglet, (Barcelona)
DF: Kurt Zouma, (Chelsea)
DF: Leo Dubois, (Lyon)

MF: Paul Pogba, (Manchester United)
MF: Moussa Sissoko, (Tottenham Hotspur)
MF: N'Golo Kanté, (Chelsea)
MF: Adrien Rabiot, (Juventus)
MF: Corentin Tolisso (Bayern Munich)

FW: Olivier Giroud, (Chelsea)
FW: Antoine Griezmann, (Barcelona)
FW: Kylian Mbappé, (Paris Saint-Germain)
FW: Kingsley Coman, (Bayern Munich)
FW: Thomas Lemar, (Atletico Madrid)
FW: Ousmane Dembele, (Barcelona)
FW: Wissam Ben Yedder, (Monaco)
FW: Karim Benzema (Real Madrid)
FW: Marcus Thuram (Borussia Monchengladbach)

Billy Gilmour in the Scotland Squad
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/19692/12310732/scotland-euro-2020-squad-steve-clarke-names-billy-gilmour-david-turnbull-nathan-patterson-in-26-man-squad

Belgium

GK: Thibaut Courtois (Real Madrid)
GK: Simon Mignolet (Club Brugge)
GK: Mats Selz (Strasbourg)

DF: Jan Vertonghen (Benfica)
DF: Toby Alderweireld (Tottenham Hotspur)
DF: Thomas Vermaelen (Vissel Kobe)
DF: Dedryck Boyata (Hertha Berlin)
DF: Jason Denayer (Lyon)

MF: Leander Dendoncker (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
MF: Timothy Castagne (Leicester City)
MF: Thomas Meunier (Borussia Dortmund)
MF: Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City)
MF: Nacer Chadli (Istanbul Basaksehir)
MF: Yannick Carrasco (Atletico Madrid)
MF: Youri Tielemans (Leicester City)
MF: Thorgan Hazard (Borussia Dortmund)
MF Axel Witsel (Borussia Dortmund)
MF: Dennis Praet (Leicester City)
MF: Hans Vanaken (Club Brugge)

FW: Dries Mertens (Napoli)
FW: Romelu Lukaku (Internazionale)
FW: Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)
FW: Michy Batshuayi (Crystal Palace)
FW: Eden Hazard (Real Madrid)
FW: Jeremy Doku (Rennes)
FW: Leandro Trossard (Brighton & Hove Albion)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 24, 2021, 09:22:09 PM
First time ever that no Real Madrid player is in the Spanish squad for a major tournament.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 08:16:25 AM
First time ever that no Real Madrid player is in the Spanish squad for a major tournament.
surely Ramos could still do a job for them. Strange one.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2021, 09:28:46 AM
First time ever that no Real Madrid player is in the Spanish squad for a major tournament.
surely Ramos could still do a job for them. Strange one.

He was puffing and blowing in that game against chelsea. The lads done.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 25, 2021, 10:34:38 AM
First time ever that no Real Madrid player is in the Spanish squad for a major tournament.
surely Ramos could still do a job for them. Strange one.

He was puffing and blowing in that game against chelsea. The lads done.

Ruthless from Spain to bring in an uncapped Frenchman in a living legends place and they didn't even name 26. Looks a personal one.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 10:43:06 AM
First time ever that no Real Madrid player is in the Spanish squad for a major tournament.
surely Ramos could still do a job for them. Strange one.

He was puffing and blowing in that game against chelsea. The lads done.
Rushed back from injury was he not? I’d definitely be taking him, even for a goal threat from set pieces if you’re chasing a goal and he’s a sure bet for a penalty. Especially if they didn’t take 26.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on May 25, 2021, 10:59:44 AM
There isn't much excitement looking at that Spain squad compared to say 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Angelo on May 25, 2021, 11:09:35 AM
Enrique still very bitter from his time at Real.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 25, 2021, 11:13:15 AM
Enrique has to win the Euros to keep his job after this call I suppose.

Ramos would have been a man that would do what had to be done in the last ten mins no questions asked too. They'll miss him no doubt.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Angelo on May 25, 2021, 11:15:08 AM
Azpilicueta is the only right back too in the squad.

He has left out Carvajal who was the obvious option here and he's another Real man.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 11:20:48 AM
Azpilicueta is the only right back too in the squad.

He has left out Carvajal who was the obvious option here and he's another Real man.
Azpi would play more at cb now as well would he? Strange leaving Carvajal out!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on May 25, 2021, 12:44:07 PM
What happened Enrique at Real?

Have heard various things but nothing concrete
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Angelo on May 25, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
What happened Enrique at Real?

Have heard various things but nothing concrete

He played for Real and felt he was never truly appreciated then joined Barca direct from them after his contract ran out. Became Barca captain later on and clearly carries a chip on his shoulder.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 25, 2021, 01:08:18 PM
He left Real for Barca at his peak, a few years later was a bit over enthusiastic when he scored in a Barca win over Real (Think Adebayor without the running the pitch to do it), the real problem was it was in front of the Madrid Ultras in a celebration he used at Real Madrid prior to the move. He repeated the same kind of thing a few times when he scored v Real.

Got himself involved in a few flashpoints over the years too in same games.

The Spanish in general don't really like Enrique but that is due to the scenario when he left the job, then come back and the sour taste of that all.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Louther on May 25, 2021, 01:47:52 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2021, 01:56:35 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.

FFS he better pick TAA or we'll never hear the end of it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Louther on May 25, 2021, 01:59:39 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.

FFS he better pick TAA or we'll never hear the end of it.

The word is he isn’t going to. And can’t see him taking 4 Right backs.

Will put massive pressure on before tournament.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2021, 02:03:05 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.

FFS he better pick TAA or we'll never hear the end of it.

The word is he isn’t going to. And can’t see him taking 4 Right backs.

Will put massive pressure on before tournament.

Better hope I get a decent signal from Louth so that I can watch the England games on RTE then!!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on May 25, 2021, 02:06:58 PM
Finally realised the Dier is exactly that...
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: J70 on May 25, 2021, 02:16:02 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.

FFS he better pick TAA or we'll never hear the end of it.

The word is he isn’t going to. And can’t see him taking 4 Right backs.

Will put massive pressure on before tournament.

I feel a bit sorry for Southgate on the right back issue. He can't win. He has five right backs playing with top clubs. Wan-Bissaka didn't even make the provisional squad and he's arguably the best out and out defender of the lot.

Personally, I would take TAA, even if not as first choice, as he's a great offensive weapon to have and would provide great service for someone like Kane. You just have to cover him when he goes forward.

As a Liverpool fan though, I'd be happy enough for him not to go as I'm sure he, like many of the Liverpool squad, could use a month off.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2021, 02:28:50 PM
He offers something very few right backs do. He is very susceptible to being caught out but offensively he's great. I noticed Lineker saying on twitter he reckoned he would be better up the field a bit - I'd agree.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 25, 2021, 02:36:55 PM
I hope he doesn’t take him. But it is absolutely madness not to. For his range of passing and attacking threat. He took a dip earlier in the year but has been really strong the last 5-10 games. Instrumental in Liverpool’s recent form.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on May 25, 2021, 03:04:54 PM
As a Liverpool fan though, I'd be happy enough for him not to go as I'm sure he, like many of the Liverpool squad, could use a month off.

That’s what I keep trying to tell myself but taking the red tinted glasses off, it would be a travesty for TAA not to go on a personal level. That squad is not made up of world class players bar maybe Kane, I don’t see how Southgate can leave out a player of TAA’s passing, crossing, and overall ability to create chances...and he is also a pretty decent defender!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on May 25, 2021, 03:28:13 PM
As a Liverpool fan though, I'd be happy enough for him not to go as I'm sure he, like many of the Liverpool squad, could use a month off.

That’s what I keep trying to tell myself but taking the red tinted glasses off, it would be a travesty for TAA not to go on a personal level. That squad is not made up of world class players bar maybe Kane, I don’t see how Southgate can leave out a player of TAA’s passing, crossing, and overall ability to create chances...and he is also a pretty decent defender!

If you are a defender going to the Euros you have to be better than pretty decent - he is a liability at the back and will leave you exposed against top quality teams.

However his range of passing and crossing  is unmatched in the England squad.

Southgate really is in a catch 22
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on May 25, 2021, 03:46:05 PM
As a Liverpool fan though, I'd be happy enough for him not to go as I'm sure he, like many of the Liverpool squad, could use a month off.

That’s what I keep trying to tell myself but taking the red tinted glasses off, it would be a travesty for TAA not to go on a personal level. That squad is not made up of world class players bar maybe Kane, I don’t see how Southgate can leave out a player of TAA’s passing, crossing, and overall ability to create chances...and he is also a pretty decent defender!

If you are a defender going to the Euros you have to be better than pretty decent - he is a liability at the back and will leave you exposed against top quality teams.

However his range of passing and crossing  is unmatched in the England squad.

Southgate really is in a catch 22

Trent is the type of offensive defender you need when you are 1-0 down going into the last 15 minutes .
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 25, 2021, 03:54:31 PM
The English squad will be as strong as any in the competition. Some good players will not make the cut. Unlikely to win it though with Southgate in charge.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on May 25, 2021, 04:24:32 PM
As a Liverpool fan though, I'd be happy enough for him not to go as I'm sure he, like many of the Liverpool squad, could use a month off.

That’s what I keep trying to tell myself but taking the red tinted glasses off, it would be a travesty for TAA not to go on a personal level. That squad is not made up of world class players bar maybe Kane, I don’t see how Southgate can leave out a player of TAA’s passing, crossing, and overall ability to create chances...and he is also a pretty decent defender!

If you are a defender going to the Euros you have to be better than pretty decent - he is a liability at the back and will leave you exposed against top quality teams.

However his range of passing and crossing  is unmatched in the England squad.

Southgate really is in a catch 22

Trent is the type of offensive defender you need when you are 1-0 down going into the last 15 minutes .

If you are not creating chances in the game.

But if you are creating chances and just not finishing them he would not be called upon.

Which means he probably wont get in the squad.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.
England have some forward line- Mount Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Foden, Greenwood, Sterling- only 2 or 3 of those will start assuming Kane up front.

It’s a good job their defence and midfield is shite. Maguire is some loss.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trileacman on May 25, 2021, 05:27:42 PM
Goalkeepers Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Ben Godfrey, Reece James, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ben White

Midfielders Jude Bellingham, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse

Forwards Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Mason Greenwood, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Ollie Watkins

Funny how all England’s quality is concentrated up front and how shite they are in MF, DF and GK. That’s a shocking choice of keepers and Pope is little better. No harm but only Walker is in the same class of RB as TAA, his defensive frailties are overstated by the media. Bar the Real Madrid goal there’s hardly another goal I could think he’s to blame for. Who’s the starting centre half’s there? Mings and Stones? Jesus no wonder Gomez was starting for England. Mings is a walking liability.

No harm but are Henderson (who won’t go due to injury), Rice and Prowse the only MF who can play centre mid? To my count there’s 13 forwards named in that 33 man squad
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 05:38:12 PM
Goalkeepers Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Ben Godfrey, Reece James, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ben White

Midfielders Jude Bellingham, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse

Forwards Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Mason Greenwood, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Ollie Watkins

Funny how all England’s quality is concentrated up front and how shite they are in MF, DF and GK. That’s a shocking choice of keepers and Pope is little better. No harm but only Walker is in the same class of RB as TAA, his defensive frailties are overstated by the media. Bar the Real Madrid goal there’s hardly another goal I could think he’s to blame for. Who’s the starting centre half’s there? Mings and Stones? Jesus no wonder Gomez was starting for England. Mings is a walking liability.

No harm but are Henderson (who won’t go due to injury), Rice and Prowse the only MF who can play centre mid? To my count there’s 13 forwards named in that 33 man squad
Dean Henderson is a decent keeper but probably won’t start. Slab is top class but may or may not be fit. That midfield is brutal
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on May 25, 2021, 05:48:18 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.
England have some forward line- Mount Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Foden, Greenwood, Sterling- only 2 or 3 of those will start assuming Kane up front.

It’s a good job their defence and midfield is shite. Maguire is some loss.

Foden has to start.
Sterling would be last of that bunch going by this season.

Grealish hasnt played for some time.

Leaves 1 or 2 at most from from Mount, Sancho, Rashford & Greenwood.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 25, 2021, 06:14:29 PM
Goalkeepers Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Ben Godfrey, Reece James, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ben White

Midfielders Jude Bellingham, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse

Forwards Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Mason Greenwood, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Ollie Watkins

Funny how all England’s quality is concentrated up front and how shite they are in MF, DF and GK. That’s a shocking choice of keepers and Pope is little better. No harm but only Walker is in the same class of RB as TAA, his defensive frailties are overstated by the media. Bar the Real Madrid goal there’s hardly another goal I could think he’s to blame for. Who’s the starting centre half’s there? Mings and Stones? Jesus no wonder Gomez was starting for England. Mings is a walking liability.

No harm but are Henderson (who won’t go due to injury), Rice and Prowse the only MF who can play centre mid? To my count there’s 13 forwards named in that 33 man squad
Dean Henderson is a decent keeper but probably won’t start. Slab is top class but may or may not be fit. That midfield is brutal

Its this type of talk that has our friends across the water thinking they'll win it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on May 25, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
The English squad will be as strong as any in the competition. Some good players will not make the cut. Unlikely to win it though with Southgate in charge.

England have been hyped up since they beat Mickey Mouse teams on the way to the WC semis. They, and Southgate, will be found out in this tournament.

If they win their group, they’ll play one of France, Portugal or Germany. Come second, they could play Spain. Granted, Spain/Germany aren’t the teams they were before, but England rarely beat those sort of teams when it really matters in tournaments.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Hound on May 25, 2021, 10:04:14 PM
He offers something very few right backs do. He is very susceptible to being caught out but offensively he's great. I noticed Lineker saying on twitter he reckoned he would be better up the field a bit - I'd agree.
As a Liverpool fan I think he’s an horrendously bad defender. I doubt there’s many worse right backs in the league, when judged purely on a defensive basis. Makes defensive mistakes in most games and the Palace game was no exception.

When Liverpool are fully fit we protect him. Sometimes by having most of the ball, the rest of the time due to the pace of Gomez, the reading of situations by Virgil, and probably most of all the workrate of midfielders covering for him, like Hendo. Most of the time TAA is not really playing right back at all, it’s effectively right wing back.

Apart from the quality world class 10s that are in a few clubs (like KDB and Fernandes) he is the best ball player in the league in my opinion. Crossing and passing fantastic. Absolutely critical to Liverpool.

But you can’t play him right back against top quality opposition, unless you change your system to protect him defensively and get the best out of him offensively. I would play all the others ahead of him, but would have him on the bench in case you went behind.

Given the paucity of midfielders England have, I’m disappointed Southgate didn’t try him in a run of 3 or 4 games in midfield, to see how he would have done. I think clearly he’d do well on right midfield, but I also think he could be a top class central midfielder too.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 10:40:22 PM
He offers something very few right backs do. He is very susceptible to being caught out but offensively he's great. I noticed Lineker saying on twitter he reckoned he would be better up the field a bit - I'd agree.
As a Liverpool fan I think he’s an horrendously bad defender. I doubt there’s many worse right backs in the league, when judged purely on a defensive basis. Makes defensive mistakes in most games and the Palace game was no exception.

When Liverpool are fully fit we protect him. Sometimes by having most of the ball, the rest of the time due to the pace of Gomez, the reading of situations by Virgil, and probably most of all the workrate of midfielders covering for him, like Hendo. Most of the time TAA is not really playing right back at all, it’s effectively right wing back.

Apart from the quality world class 10s that are in a few clubs (like KDB and Fernandes) he is the best ball player in the league in my opinion. Crossing and passing fantastic. Absolutely critical to Liverpool.

But you can’t play him right back against top quality opposition, unless you change your system to protect him defensively and get the best out of him offensively. I would play all the others ahead of him, but would have him on the bench in case you went behind.

Given the paucity of midfielders England have, I’m disappointed Southgate didn’t try him in a run of 3 or 4 games in midfield, to see how he would have done. I think clearly he’d do well on right midfield, but I also think he could be a top class central midfielder too.
If you’re England and you’re playing against France, Portugal, Germany etc who do you want marking the like of Mbappe? Definitely not Trent. Think it’s ridiculous that AWB hasn’t been selected as I’d put money on him getting the better of any left winger.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 25, 2021, 10:43:06 PM
Goalkeepers Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Ben Godfrey, Reece James, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ben White

Midfielders Jude Bellingham, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse

Forwards Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Mason Greenwood, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Ollie Watkins

Funny how all England’s quality is concentrated up front and how shite they are in MF, DF and GK. That’s a shocking choice of keepers and Pope is little better. No harm but only Walker is in the same class of RB as TAA, his defensive frailties are overstated by the media. Bar the Real Madrid goal there’s hardly another goal I could think he’s to blame for. Who’s the starting centre half’s there? Mings and Stones? Jesus no wonder Gomez was starting for England. Mings is a walking liability.

No harm but are Henderson (who won’t go due to injury), Rice and Prowse the only MF who can play centre mid? To my count there’s 13 forwards named in that 33 man squad
Dean Henderson is a decent keeper but probably won’t start. Slab is top class but may or may not be fit. That midfield is brutal

Its this type of talk that has our friends across the water thinking they'll win it.
Meant slab head, not slab. (Different type of top class).

But Maguire is a massive player for England, no denying it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on May 26, 2021, 09:33:02 AM
Goalkeepers Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Ben Godfrey, Reece James, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ben White

Midfielders Jude Bellingham, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse

Forwards Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Mason Greenwood, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Ollie Watkins

Funny how all England’s quality is concentrated up front and how shite they are in MF, DF and GK. That’s a shocking choice of keepers and Pope is little better. No harm but only Walker is in the same class of RB as TAA, his defensive frailties are overstated by the media. Bar the Real Madrid goal there’s hardly another goal I could think he’s to blame for. Who’s the starting centre half’s there? Mings and Stones? Jesus no wonder Gomez was starting for England. Mings is a walking liability.

No harm but are Henderson (who won’t go due to injury), Rice and Prowse the only MF who can play centre mid? To my count there’s 13 forwards named in that 33 man squad
Dean Henderson is a decent keeper but probably won’t start. Slab is top class but may or may not be fit. That midfield is brutal

Its this type of talk that has our friends across the water thinking they'll win it.
Meant slab head, not slab. (Different type of top class).

But Maguire is a massive player for England, no denying it.

He's a massive player for England as all their other Centre Halfs are pish barring Stones who's prone to the odd mind fart.
Maguire is far from World Class in proper World Class terms.

From a defensive MF pov they really need a fit Henderson, the lad from Leeds is OK, but the rest like to bomb forward and leave ropey Maguire and Stones exposed. And if you add TAA into the mix then the right side of their defence is badly exposed when TAA bombs forward and they lose the ball which will happen more often than not against the decent sides.

Home advantage may stand to them a bit, but I'd be expecting them to get found out quarter final stages or if they're lucky the semi's.


Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 26, 2021, 11:26:52 AM
Goalkeepers Dean Henderson, Sam Johnstone, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Ben Godfrey, Reece James, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ben White

Midfielders Jude Bellingham, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse

Forwards Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Mason Greenwood, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Bukayo Saka, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Ollie Watkins

Funny how all England’s quality is concentrated up front and how shite they are in MF, DF and GK. That’s a shocking choice of keepers and Pope is little better. No harm but only Walker is in the same class of RB as TAA, his defensive frailties are overstated by the media. Bar the Real Madrid goal there’s hardly another goal I could think he’s to blame for. Who’s the starting centre half’s there? Mings and Stones? Jesus no wonder Gomez was starting for England. Mings is a walking liability.

No harm but are Henderson (who won’t go due to injury), Rice and Prowse the only MF who can play centre mid? To my count there’s 13 forwards named in that 33 man squad
Dean Henderson is a decent keeper but probably won’t start. Slab is top class but may or may not be fit. That midfield is brutal

Its this type of talk that has our friends across the water thinking they'll win it.
Meant slab head, not slab. (Different type of top class).

But Maguire is a massive player for England, no denying it.

He's a massive player for England as all their other Centre Halfs are pish barring Stones who's prone to the odd mind fart.
Maguire is far from World Class in proper World Class terms.

From a defensive MF pov they really need a fit Henderson, the lad from Leeds is OK, but the rest like to bomb forward and leave ropey Maguire and Stones exposed. And if you add TAA into the mix then the right side of their defence is badly exposed when TAA bombs forward and they lose the ball which will happen more often than not against the decent sides.

Home advantage may stand to them a bit, but I'd be expecting them to get found out quarter final stages or if they're lucky the semi's.
Henderson (if fit) and Rice is a decent base. With their forwards they’ll always have a shout of outscoring the opposition.

Portugal have to be in with a good shout, seem to have a strong squad. Would love to see Ronaldo win it again.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: yellowcard on May 26, 2021, 01:03:35 PM
England are pre tournament favourites and have probably the best squad of players they have had for a major tournament since the golden generation under Sven Goran Erikssen. However we have seen them overhyped before and fail to deliver. There are weaknesses at centre back and Pickford is a potential liability if he starts in goals but it is a wide open tournament and any one of about 8 teams could win it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on May 26, 2021, 01:15:18 PM
I saw Panini Euro 2020 sticker
 books in a shop the other day.
Waste not, want not.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 26, 2021, 01:42:26 PM
England are pre tournament favourites and have probably the best squad of players they have had for a major tournament since the golden generation under Sven Goran Erikssen. However we have seen them overhyped before and fail to deliver. There are weaknesses at centre back and Pickford is a potential liability if he starts in goals but it is a wide open tournament and any one of about 8 teams could win it.

In fairness, at International Level, despite the clangers he drops at Club Level....he doesn't really let England down.

I think Henderson or Pope are probably better keepers. Southgate doesn't really strike me as a manager willing to plunge the knife in ruthlessly though.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on May 27, 2021, 11:16:31 AM
That game last night should help make Southgates mind up about who to start up front.

Sacho, Foden, Kane & possibly Mount to start.

The rest are all bang out of form
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trileacman on May 27, 2021, 01:06:26 PM
Pope not a great keeper but miles in front of the rest of England’s choices. Henderson is just bang average and Pickford mixes the good with the dreadful.

Probably be
                            Pickford
Walker          Stones          Slab( will he be fit?)   Chilwell
          Prowse.       Rice.     ?????
   
Foden.      Kane.      Mount

Slab head is not a great defender but he is a good one and has a good scoring record for a CB. He attracts a lot of criticism here as a 70million pound Englishman playing for united.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on May 27, 2021, 03:04:23 PM
England are pre tournament favourites and have probably the best squad of players they have had for a major tournament since the golden generation under Sven Goran Erikssen. However we have seen them overhyped before and fail to deliver. There are weaknesses at centre back and Pickford is a potential liability if he starts in goals but it is a wide open tournament and any one of about 8 teams could win it.

Is that true? I would at least have France, Belgium, Portugal above them and probably Germany and Spain as well
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on May 27, 2021, 03:10:32 PM
England are pre tournament favourites and have probably the best squad of players they have had for a major tournament since the golden generation under Sven Goran Erikssen. However we have seen them overhyped before and fail to deliver. There are weaknesses at centre back and Pickford is a potential liability if he starts in goals but it is a wide open tournament and any one of about 8 teams could win it.

Is that true? I would at least have France, Belgium, Portugal above them and probably Germany and Spain as well

Engerland 4/1
France 5/1
Belgium 13/2
Spain 7/1
Italy 15/2
Germany 15/2
Portugal 9/1

Portugal are the stand out price IMHO
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: thewobbler on May 27, 2021, 03:11:52 PM
England have a manager so obsessed with ensuring that any in-form player gets an opportunity, that he’s no closer to knowing his best XI now than he was 3 years ago. Plus he will inevitably end up filling his squad up with in form but not good enough dross, including players who’ve proven before to be below international standard.

If England had a manager who was focused enough to build a team around Kane, Grealish and Foden, and absolute cutthroat in setting a fixed platform for them to perform, they’d have a serious, serious chance.

But instead, they’ll reach the quarters with a few injury worries and hope to get through their first meaningful, competitive match in 3 years while carrying deadweight, and no particular style of play.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 27, 2021, 03:15:24 PM
England are pre tournament favourites and have probably the best squad of players they have had for a major tournament since the golden generation under Sven Goran Erikssen. However we have seen them overhyped before and fail to deliver. There are weaknesses at centre back and Pickford is a potential liability if he starts in goals but it is a wide open tournament and any one of about 8 teams could win it.

Is that true? I would at least have France, Belgium, Portugal above them and probably Germany and Spain as well

Engerland 4/1
France 5/1
Belgium 13/2
Spain 7/1
Italy 15/2
Germany 15/2
Portugal 9/1

Portugal are the stand out price IMHO

When is the last time Germany were that price in a tournament. I'll have a go on them for some interest.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on May 27, 2021, 03:18:29 PM
Germany losing to North Macedonia recently has probably caused the drop in price.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on May 27, 2021, 03:24:27 PM
England are pre tournament favourites and have probably the best squad of players they have had for a major tournament since the golden generation under Sven Goran Erikssen. However we have seen them overhyped before and fail to deliver. There are weaknesses at centre back and Pickford is a potential liability if he starts in goals but it is a wide open tournament and any one of about 8 teams could win it.

Is that true? I would at least have France, Belgium, Portugal above them and probably Germany and Spain as well

Engerland 4/1
France 5/1
Belgium 13/2
Spain 7/1
Italy 15/2
Germany 15/2
Portugal 9/1

Portugal are the stand out price IMHO

When is the last time Germany were that price in a tournament. I'll have a go on them for some interest.
Haven’t been the same since Shane Long, I’m telling ye!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2021, 04:16:28 PM
I'm not sure he has scored since lol.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trileacman on June 01, 2021, 09:48:20 PM
Only an Englishman would take 4 right backs and one central midfielders to a European championship.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: An Watcher on June 01, 2021, 09:52:25 PM
Only reason England are favs is because they'll have every game at Wembley bar the quarter final, assuming they win their group. They'll have France, Germany or Portugal in the second round. Not sure they'll be favs to beat any of them
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 01, 2021, 09:53:46 PM
Southgate waiting to make the big decisions and named a 33 man squad before dropping to 26 next week after the EL and CL finals.

With 33 has included a few that reckoned won’t make it like TAA.

Think he the only manager to do this yet.

Portugal squad looks very strong on paper.

FFS he better pick TAA or we'll never hear the end of it.


Like most men Southgate will do anything for the quiet life..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: An Watcher on June 01, 2021, 09:56:01 PM
Most likely Spain in Rome in the quarters
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2021, 09:53:55 AM
I'll be backing France this time again, regardless how some of these players have played for their clubs this season, as a unit they are pretty strong in tournaments, and they know how to win them. That's where my £10 will go

Will go for Kane as top goal scorer, takes the penalties and should score against Scotland and Croatia, whether England get past the last 16 is the big test for them, I'd fancy them over Spain if that's the route they take.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 02, 2021, 02:54:07 PM
https://gaming.uefa.com/en/uefaeuro2020tournamentpredictor/main


Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 02, 2021, 07:00:14 PM
Lingard who was yesterday dropped from the England squad, starts tonight for England :o
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 02, 2021, 07:14:56 PM
Lingard who was yesterday dropped from the England squad, starts tonight for England :o

Seen that, a couple of the subs not in the squad either. Seems unnecessary..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 02, 2021, 07:55:47 PM
Italy Squad

Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan), Alex Meret (Napoli), Salvatore Sirigu (Torino)

Defenders: Francesco Acerbi (Lazio), Alessandro Bastoni (Inter), Leonardo Bonucci (Juventus), Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus), Giovanni Di Lorenzo (Napoli), Emerson Palmieri (Chelsea), Alessandro Florenzi (Paris Saint-Germain), Leonardo Spinazzola (Roma), Rafael Toloi (Atalanta)

Midfielders: Nicolo Barella (Inter), Bryan Cristante (Roma), Frello Jorge Luiz Jorginho (Chelsea), Manuel Locatelli (Sassuolo), Lorenzo Pellegrini (Roma), Stefano Sensi (Inter), Marco Verratti (Paris Saint Germain)

Forwards: Andrea Belotti (Torino), Domenico Berardi (Sassuolo), Federico Bernardeschi (Juventus), Federico Chiesa (Juventus), Ciro Immobile (Lazio), Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli), Giacomo Raspadori (Sassuolo)

Spain

Goalkeepers: David de Gea (Manchester United), Unai Simon (Athletic Bilbao), Robert Sanchez (Brighton & Hove Albion)

Defenders: Jose Gaya (Valencia), Jordi Alba (Barcelona), Pau Torres (Villarreal), Aymeric Laporte (Manchester City), Eric Garcia (Manchester City), Diego Llorente (Leeds United), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Marcos Llorente (Atletico Madrid)

Midfielders: Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Rodri Hernandez (Manchester City), Pedri (Barcelona), Thiago Alcantara (Liverpool), Koke (Atletico Madrid), Fabian Ruiz (Napoli)

Forwards: Dani Olmo (Leipzig), Mikel Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Gerard Moreno (Villarreal), Alvaro Morata (Juventus), Ferran Torres (Manchester City), Adama Traore (Wolves), Pablo Sarabia (Paris Saint-Germain)

Germany
Goalkeepers: Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Bernd Leno (Arsenal), Kevin Trapp (Frankfurt)

Defenders: Matthias Ginter (Monchengladbach), Antonio Rudiger (Chelsea), Robin Gosens (Atalanta), Christian Gunter (Freiburg), Marcel Halstenberg (Leipzig), Mats Hummels (Dortmund), Lukas Klostermann (Leipzig), Robin Koch (Leeds), Niklas Sule (Bayern Munich)

Midfielders: Ilkay Gundogan (Manchester City), Toni Kroos (Real Madrid), Emre Can (Dortmund), Joshua Kimmich (Bayern), Thomas Muller (Bayern Munich), Jamal Musiala (Bayern Munich), Serge Gnabry (Bayern Munich), Leon Goretzka (Bayern Munich), Kai Havertz (Chelsea), Jonas Hofmann (Monchengladbach), Leroy Sane (Bayern Munich), Florian Neuhaus (Monchengladbach)

Forwards: Timo Werner (Chelsea), Kevin Volland (Monaco)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 02, 2021, 08:51:30 PM
No Buffon?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 02, 2021, 09:35:16 PM
Buffon retired from International football 3 years ago, when Italy failed to make the World Cup.

Scotland playing well against Holland. They'll be fired up to play England in the Euros.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 02, 2021, 09:49:05 PM
Trent looks fucked.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2021, 09:51:55 PM
At least he has another 3 right backs
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: An Watcher on June 02, 2021, 10:22:20 PM
Trent who was labelled as the best crosser of a ball in world football tonight!!! Pity his defensive work isn't in the same league
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 03, 2021, 09:44:13 AM
Southgate surely has to be brave enough to play Grealish and Foden together. I just think he is gonna shoehorn in either Rashford or Sterling, despite their poor form.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 03, 2021, 10:18:41 AM
Southgate surely has to be brave enough to play Grealish and Foden together. I just think he is gonna shoehorn in either Rashford or Sterling, despite their poor form.

Southgate and brave don't go in the same sentence.

The fact that he bowed to media pressure to select TAA when he's three better RB's in the squad tell you all you need to know.

He's going to play safe and bumble his way to a QF and if he's lucky enough a SF rather than go hell for leather at it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trailer on June 03, 2021, 10:22:29 AM
Why was Lingard in the side? Wasn't he dropped from the panel? Great preparation.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 03, 2021, 10:28:04 AM
Probably one of the standby players. Sancho wasn't in the Squad with a knock.

Some difference in the English centre halfs compared to John Terry, Sol Campbell, Tony Adams.
They haven't a top keeper in the Squad either.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 03, 2021, 10:44:14 AM
Why was Lingard in the side? Wasn't he dropped from the panel? Great preparation.

City, Utd and Chelsea players not considered for selection probably the reason. Speculation now that he'll get back in the squad with Trent's injury
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 03, 2021, 10:45:42 AM
Why was Lingard in the side? Wasn't he dropped from the panel? Great preparation.

Watkins, Ward-Prowse, Ben White and Godfrey came on too and they aren't in the squad either I think.  I expect Ward-Prowse to be added for Trent though.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 03, 2021, 11:01:54 AM
Southgate surely has to be brave enough to play Grealish and Foden together. I just think he is gonna shoehorn in either Rashford or Sterling, despite their poor form.

Southgate and brave don't go in the same sentence.

The fact that he bowed to media pressure to select TAA when he's three better RB's in the squad tell you all you need to know.

He's going to play safe and bumble his way to a QF and if he's lucky enough a SF rather than go hell for leather at it.

All England managers bow to media pressure in selecting teams. Southgate doesn’t have the neck either.

Southgate was keeping in with the media in 2018, and he came out smelling of roses, but only because of a very handy run to the semis. But rest assured, if they lose a game here, the media will devour him. It’s only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 03, 2021, 11:12:13 AM
Southgate is a yes man. The love in for him over the last WC run was ridiculous. If you analyse the results and who they actually played it was all rather underwhelming
Beat Tunisia, Panama and Sweden, drew with Colombia and lost to Belgium twice and Croatia. The Republic of Ireland pre Kenny era could have done that ffs.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 03, 2021, 08:11:05 PM
Euro 2020 groups

Group A: Italy, Switzerland, Turkey, Wales

Group B: Belgium, Russia, Denmark, Finland

Group C: Ukraine, Netherlands, Austria, North Macedonia

Group D: England, Croatia, Czech Republic, Scotland

Group E: Spain, Poland, Sweden, Slovakia

Group F: Germany, France, Portugal, Hungary

venues

Stadio Olimpico, Rome

Olympic Stadium, Baku

St Petersburg Stadium, Saint Petersburg

Parken Stadium, Copenhagen

Johan Cruijff ArenA, Amsterdam

National Arena, Bucharest

Wembley Stadium, London

Hampden Park, Glasgow

Estadio La Cartuja, Seville

Fußball Arena Munchen, Munich

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shyted on June 03, 2021, 09:08:21 PM
this is a gaa board who gives a flyin f*** about the england team ye clowns
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 03, 2021, 09:30:33 PM
this is a gaa board who gives a flyin f*** about the england team ye clowns

that's west brits and nordies for you  ::)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 06, 2021, 07:36:54 PM
Round of 16...

Saturday June 26

Game 1: Group A runners-up vs Group B runners-up; Kick-off 5pm (Amsterdam)

Game 2: Group A winners vs Group C runners-up; Kick-off 8pm (London)

Sunday June 27

Game 3: Group C winners vs third-placed side from Group D/E/F; Kick-off 5pm (Budapest)

Game 4: Group B winners vs third-placed side from Group A/D/E/F; Kick-off 8pm (Seville)

Monday June 28

Game 5: Group D runners-up vs Group E runners-up; Kick-off 5pm (Copenhagen)

Game 6: Group F winners vs third-placed side from Group A/B/C; Kick-off 8pm (Bucharest)

Tuesday June 29

Game 7: Group D winners vs Group F runners-up; Kick-off 5pm (London)

Game 8: Group E winners vs third-placed side Group A/B/C/D; Kick-off 8pm (Glasgow)



Quarter-finals
Friday July 2

Quarter-final 1: Game 6 winner vs Game 5 winner; Kick-off 5pm (St Petersburg)

Quarter-final 2: Game 4 winner vs Game 2 winner; Kick-off 8pm (Munich)

Saturday July 3

Quarter-final 3: Game 3 winner vs Game 1 winner; Kick-off 5pm (Baku)

Quarter-final 4: Game 8 winner vs Game 7 winner; Kick-off 8pm (Rome)

Semi-finals

Tuesday July 6

Semi-final 1: Quarter-final 2 winner vs Quarter-final 1 winner; Kick-off 8pm (Wembley, London)

Wednesday July 7

Semi-final 2: Quarter-final 4 winner vs Quarter-final 3 winner; Kick-off 8pm (Wembley, London)

The Final
Sunday July 11

Kick-off 8pm (Wembley, London)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 07, 2021, 08:02:34 AM
this is a gaa board who gives a flyin f*** about the england team ye clowns

that's west brits and nordies for you  ::)

It's coming home.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 07, 2021, 11:01:32 PM
A breakdown of all the Squads ..   https://t.co/PdXRNA49cI?amp=1
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: KickItInAndStartClapping on June 08, 2021, 10:32:21 AM
this is a gaa board who gives a flyin f*** about the england team ye clowns

that's west brits and nordies for you  ::)

It's coming home.

I agree. Grealish probably be player of the tournament - excellent player. Huge miss for Ireland but he done right choosing the 3 lions over the current ireland set-up. Ireland have zero footballing prestige and have been and always be England's B team.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
Just looking at the games for the weekend and beyond, the group with Portugal, France and Germany and Hungry... That's probably why England are favs, as whoever comes out of that group will be fcuked

Kane could be top scorer again, England should (on paper) get past those teams, Croatia not the same team that beat England before, the other teams they should come through with a bit to spare

Belgium should have the easiest of groups to come through (on paper)

The other groups those teams will take points off each other but expect Poland and Spain to come through their group with Poland topping it

I had fancied France but all depends on this first game v Germany, France struggled last night, they managed to score two late ones to make it look respectable, Germany racked up a big score in their warm up. Haven't seen much of Portugal but they should not be relying on Ronaldo to get them through..

Plenty of GAA and live international soccer to get me through the weekends!! The wife will be going crackers lol
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 10, 2021, 08:20:52 PM
I once again will be rooting for the Netherlands and Italy.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2021, 10:27:26 AM
A few great Euro goals  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLhXk2Zw4hw&t=264s
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2021, 10:29:52 AM
24 teams is a joke. Half of the teams are crap.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 11, 2021, 10:38:57 AM
Yup. Doin a sweepstake with the young boy to give us an interest and somehow i dont think too many will be excited at gettin Nr Macedonia among a few others...
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Rich Ricci on June 11, 2021, 10:39:52 AM
24 teams is a joke. Half of the teams are crap.

+1

16 team Euros used to be a brilliant tournament packed with quality. All the dirt were filtered out in qualifying. Money and greed has turned it into another World Cup with too many dung bags. 3rd place teams getting through a 4 team group is laughable.

I’ll still watch plenty of it right enough  ;D
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 11, 2021, 10:44:34 AM
And sure theyre talkin about makin the World Cup bigger too if its not already confirmed. Pile of yite.

But yes ill be watching too 😎
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: ardtole on June 11, 2021, 11:14:55 AM
My tip of the euros is Hungary to be lowest scorers in the tournement @ 5/1. Very tough group with Portugal, Germany and France.

Watched them against Ireland a few days ago and created very little, especially considering they had home advantage.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2021, 11:24:41 AM
24 teams is a joke. Half of the teams are crap.

If they are crap, how bad is the two teams on this Island?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 11, 2021, 11:33:20 AM
My tip of the euros is Hungary to be lowest scorers in the tournement @ 5/1. Very tough group with Portugal, Germany and France.

Watched them against Ireland a few days ago and created very little, especially considering they had home advantage.
and were playing Ireland under Kenny ;D
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trailer on June 11, 2021, 11:36:28 AM
My tip is Depay to be top scorer. Dutch have a handy group and he's been banging them in lately.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2021, 11:36:48 AM
My tip of the euros is Hungary to be lowest scorers in the tournement @ 5/1. Very tough group with Portugal, Germany and France.

Watched them against Ireland a few days ago and created very little, especially considering they had home advantage.

Will this group provide 3 places in the last 16? I'd say it might.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 11, 2021, 11:40:15 AM
And sure theyre talkin about makin the World Cup bigger too if its not already confirmed. Pile of yite.

But yes ill be watching too 😎
Thats an even bigger joke as very few extra places go to UEFA - Why do UEFA seem so weak when it comes to these changes considering the best team apart form Brazil and Argentina are all European. Expect more games for England against Panama and Tunisia and the likes and watch the whole country and media lose the run of themselves thinking they will win the whole thing.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 11, 2021, 11:48:48 AM
And sure theyre talkin about makin the World Cup bigger too if its not already confirmed. Pile of yite.

But yes ill be watching too 😎
Thats an even bigger joke as very few extra places go to UEFA - Why do UEFA seem so weak when it comes to these changes considering the best team apart form Brazil and Argentina are all European. Expect more games for England against Panama and Tunisia and the likes and watch the whole country and media lose the run of themselves thinking they will win the whole thing.

Yes a huge issue for mid and low ranking European countries. Think only 3 of the additional 16 spots for UEFA in 2026. Typically 12 of the final 16 will be from Europe. 16 spots from 48. Current world rankings have 27 European teams in top 48.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2021, 12:21:07 PM
24 teams is a joke. Half of the teams are crap.

If they are crap, how bad is the two teams on this Island?

Better team then Ireland didn't qualify. Norway and Serbia. The expanded number does dilute it a bit as most qualify to knockout stage, 16 from 24.
Good for the smaller nations to get a chance all the same. Pandev with Macedonia at 37 oldest outfield player in the tournament.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 11, 2021, 01:07:35 PM
And sure theyre talkin about makin the World Cup bigger too if its not already confirmed. Pile of yite.

But yes ill be watching too 😎
Thats an even bigger joke as very few extra places go to UEFA - Why do UEFA seem so weak when it comes to these changes considering the best team apart form Brazil and Argentina are all European. Expect more games for England against Panama and Tunisia and the likes and watch the whole country and media lose the run of themselves thinking they will win the whole thing.

Yes a huge issue for mid and low ranking European countries. Think only 3 of the additional 16 spots for UEFA in 2026. Typically 12 of the final 16 will be from Europe. 16 spots from 48. Current world rankings have 27 European teams in top 48.

Football in Europe has been  milked for all its worth. Much more lucrative for FIFA to get China and Indonesia into the World Cup than Slovenia and Luxembourg.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 11, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
My tip for the top is Portugal to retain their trophy. They have a better team and squad than 4 years ago.

What were Uefa playing at  with the draw putting Portugal, France and Germany in the same group. They are arguably the 3 best teams in the tournament. Hungary have no chance.


Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 11, 2021, 01:27:28 PM
My tip for the top is Portugal to retain their trophy. They have a better team and squad than 4 years ago.

What were Uefa playing at  with the draw putting Portugal, France and Germany in the same group. They are arguably the 3 best teams in the tournament. Hungary have no chance.

Bizarrely, world champions and tournament favourites France were the 2nd seed, whilst current holders Portugal are 3rd seed!
Not sure how it's calculated.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 11, 2021, 01:31:58 PM
My tip for the top is Portugal to retain their trophy. They have a better team and squad than 4 years ago.

What were Uefa playing at  with the draw putting Portugal, France and Germany in the same group. They are arguably the 3 best teams in the tournament. Hungary have no chance.

I know we were useless in 2012 but in fairness we had 3 of the best teams in the tournament that year as well, makes you think the seedings/draw are seriously flawed
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Nanderson on June 11, 2021, 01:45:00 PM
My tip for the top is Portugal to retain their trophy. They have a better team and squad than 4 years ago.

What were Uefa playing at  with the draw putting Portugal, France and Germany in the same group. They are arguably the 3 best teams in the tournament. Hungary have no chance.

Bizarrely, world champions and tournament favourites France were the 2nd seed, whilst current holders Portugal are 3rd seed!
Not sure how it's calculated.
Ukraine will be one of the six top seeds for the Euro 2020 finals draw on Nov. 30, leaving world champions France and holders Portugal unseeded.

Seeding for the draw, which is being held in Bucharest, is based purely on performance in qualifying for this tournament.

Ukraine won six of their eight qualifiers, only drawing their away matches in Portugal and Serbia, to secure their place. They are joined by hosts England, Germany, Italy, and Spain, with the final place taken by Belgium.

France missed out on a place among the seeds by one point, with Artem Biesiedin's 93rd-minute equaliser for Ukraine in Serbia on Sunday proving to be the difference.

But it's worse for Portugal, who dropped seven points in qualifying and finished runners-up to Ukraine, which is only good enough for a place in Pot 3.

Thats taken from a website in November 2019. suppose its fair enough then.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2021, 01:51:18 PM
Have went for France and Kane to be top scorer, 40/1

Hopefully Mackers gives us his tips before the tournament starts, he's usually on the ball...... After its over that is
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 11, 2021, 02:08:19 PM
Have went for France and Kane to be top scorer, 40/1

Hopefully Mackers gives us his tips before the tournament starts, he's usually on the ball...... After its over that is

Went for France and Lukaku at the same price.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2021, 02:22:06 PM
Have went for France and Kane to be top scorer, 40/1

Hopefully Mackers gives us his tips before the tournament starts, he's usually on the ball...... After its over that is

Went for France and Lukaku at the same price.

I agonised over picking him also but picked Kane, scores penalties and likes to score against smaller teams, he’s captain and should stay on full games.. providing he’s fit
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 11, 2021, 04:16:22 PM
Might get a decent opening game tonight. Turkey are a lot of pundits dark horses and Mancini's Italy have won their past eight games without conceding a goal and are unbeaten since 2018.

16,000 will be in attendance and 1990 since a major tournament game was played in Italy.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2021, 04:25:04 PM
Yeah Italy have their 3 Group games in Rome. They will be looking to do well after missing out on 2018 World Cup.

Euros fantasy Football  https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/0269-124292412238-1a0c1b4ca507-1000--fantasy-all-you-need-to-know/
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 11, 2021, 07:30:52 PM
My tip for the top is Portugal to retain their trophy. They have a better team and squad than 4 years ago.

What were Uefa playing at  with the draw putting Portugal, France and Germany in the same group. They are arguably the 3 best teams in the tournament. Hungary have no chance.

Same here with players like Ronaldo, Jota, Felix, Fernandes and Silva...they will score goals
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 11, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Brilliant from Andrea Bocelli there.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2021, 07:58:44 PM
Italian National Anthem is class.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 11, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
Just the 210 odd caps between the Italian centre backs...
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 11, 2021, 08:02:41 PM
Italian National Anthem is class.
Everyone of the players were belting it out also, great stuff.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2021, 08:13:43 PM
Italian National Anthem is class.
It's one of my favourites.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: weareros on June 11, 2021, 09:21:46 PM
Think I’m going to be watching this tournament going - ah, we’re surely better than them. Turkey have such a lack of ambition that Italy have been forced to attack for the full game, and still needed an og to lead so far.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2021, 09:40:11 PM
Mancini has Italy playing lovely football on the front foot. Insigne and Immobile a handful up top
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: armaghniac on June 11, 2021, 09:52:13 PM
Italy very tidy, they can have aspirations to the whole thing.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: sid waddell on June 11, 2021, 10:16:38 PM
Very impressive from Italy

They have the coherence in possession you'd expect from a club team, they change the angles very well and made Turkey work very hard to close them down and they didn't give Turkey a sniff of the goal, they were patient in waiting for the first goal and once it went in Turkey were fodder for them

That Turkish defence is not bad either
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 12, 2021, 01:08:58 AM
Italy looked good but considering the extent of football mania in a country of 80m Turkey were very very poor. All the gods of fortune came good for Turkey in their Euro qualifying group including a 90min goal to beat Andorra.
The Swiss must have pulled  the shortest straw in the draw, by the time the group has completed they will have travelled to Baku and back, twice over.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 12, 2021, 02:29:15 AM
Very impressive from Italy

They have the coherence in possession you'd expect from a club team, they change the angles very well and made Turkey work very hard to close them down and they didn't give Turkey a sniff of the goal, they were patient in waiting for the first goal and once it went in Turkey were fodder for them

That Turkish defence is not bad either

You were listening on the radio, I presume?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 12, 2021, 08:10:08 AM
https://www.ft.com/content/d9bd2980-0350-46f0-b9a7-abccc4f1600e

Sergio Busquets, captain of the Spanish team, tested positive for the virus last weekend, forcing the entire squad to self-isolate.  If this is repeated during the tournament, Uefa will require matches to go ahead if at least 13 players from each country’s 26-man squad can play. If not, teams may be forced to draft in youth or reserve players at short notice to fulfil fixtures. Another option would be to delay matches for no longer than two days. 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 12, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
Very impressed by Spinazzola for the Italians.  He obviously didn't have much defending to do but he was a cracking forward outlet on the left.  Veratti still to come into that MF too.  They are in good shape.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 12, 2021, 04:53:47 PM
Good result for Wales.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 12, 2021, 05:16:56 PM
They were lucky to get it but the Swiss were not good enough to put them away.

The Fins seem to be intimidated by the Danes. 18 wins and 3 draws in the last 21 fixtures between the teams in favour of the Danes.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Rich Ricci on June 12, 2021, 05:47:47 PM
Christian Eriksen has just collapsed in this game. Not looking good :(
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Blowitupref on June 12, 2021, 05:50:01 PM
Just switched over the medical staff appear to be performing CPR on Christian Eriksen. Christ hope he pulls through.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 12, 2021, 05:55:41 PM
Jesus..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 12, 2021, 05:56:02 PM
Scary stuff. Hopefully he's ok
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trailer on June 12, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
Awful. Just feel for him and family. Prayers
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 12, 2021, 06:10:39 PM
Can't believe they kept the cameras on as long as they did.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2021, 06:14:49 PM
Can't believe they kept the cameras on as long as they did.

Horrific! Felt sick to my stomach watching that.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 12, 2021, 06:19:09 PM
My young boy has seen a tiktok and theres a pic of him conscious with an oxyen mask on. Please God
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: red hander on June 12, 2021, 06:21:47 PM
Bein sports reporting he's alive and stable. Pic on their Twitter shows him conscious as he's carried off on stretcher. Thank God .
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 12, 2021, 06:22:50 PM
I watched the start of the match and went out to the garden and when I came back there was a gardening programme on. It was only when I went on Twitter I saw what happened. Glad I missed it to be honest. There was a photo on Twitter where he was being stretchered off and he was conscious. We have seen in the past if you are to take some sort of turn, outside of hospital, a sports ground is the place to be.

The BBC and other stations getting destroyed online due to dwelling on the scenes instead of cutting away. They even zoomed in at one stage yet the cnuts won't give you a decent look at a streaker!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 12, 2021, 06:25:25 PM
Bein sports reporting he's alive and stable. Pic on their Twitter shows him conscious as he's carried off on stretcher. Thank God .

Seen that picture hopefully he makes a full recovery. He got the best of care and got it quickly which should be a big help.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
Scary stuff. Hopefully he’s ok.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 12, 2021, 06:31:45 PM
I watched the start of the match and went out to the garden and when I came back there was a gardening programme on. It was only when I went on Twitter I saw what happened. Glad I missed it to be honest. There was a photo on Twitter where he was being stretchered off and he was conscious. We have seen in the past if you are to take some sort of turn, outside of hospital, a sports ground is the place to be.

The BBC and other stations getting destroyed online due to dwelling on the scenes instead of cutting away. They even zoomed in at one stage yet the cnuts won't give you a decent look at a streaker!
Yeah he is lucky it happened where it happened anywhere else like at home and that could have been it.
I wasn’t watching the game either but have seen the clip on Twitter.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2021, 06:59:15 PM
I watched the start of the match and went out to the garden and when I came back there was a gardening programme on. It was only when I went on Twitter I saw what happened. Glad I missed it to be honest. There was a photo on Twitter where he was being stretchered off and he was conscious. We have seen in the past if you are to take some sort of turn, outside of hospital, a sports ground is the place to be.

The BBC and other stations getting destroyed online due to dwelling on the scenes instead of cutting away. They even zoomed in at one stage yet the cnuts won't give you a decent look at a streaker!
Yeah he is lucky it happened where it happened anywhere else like at home and that could have been it.
I wasn’t watching the game either but have seen the clip on Twitter.

He just seemed to lean slightly forwards as he walked, then collapsed. Some Finland fans nearby were throwing their hands up thinking he took a dive, but he was a few yards from the ball. His teammate next to him didn’t sense anything was wrong. It was the referee and other players further away that signalled for medical attention.

You could clearly see CPR being administered even through the ruck of Danish players standing in front of the medics. Awful scenes.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 12, 2021, 07:05:59 PM
Do yourself a favour. Don't go on Ewan Mackennas twitter.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 12, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
Denmark Finland game is back on at 8:30 tonight apparently
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 12, 2021, 07:14:12 PM
Denmark Finland game is back on at 8:30 tonight apparently

UEFA are ruthless.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 12, 2021, 07:15:29 PM
Denmark Finland game is back on at 8:30 tonight apparently

UEFA are ruthless.
Players on both sides wanted it to go ahead apparently. It’s 8:30 Danish time so is that 7:30 our time?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: thebigfella on June 12, 2021, 07:22:25 PM
Do yourself a favour. Don't go on Ewan Mackennas twitter.

I just did..... he really is a knob
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 12, 2021, 07:30:23 PM
In a stable condition thankfully. Not sure what the TV director was at focusing on him receiving CPR and then the defibrator and to cap it off show his distraught wife looking on in what could have been his last breath. They should have cut to the studio straight away.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: tonto1888 on June 12, 2021, 08:04:24 PM
Denmark Finland game is back on at 8:30 tonight apparently

UEFA are ruthless.

Eriksson himself wanted the game to go ahead
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: galwayman on June 12, 2021, 08:06:54 PM
Do yourself a favour. Don't go on Ewan Mackennas twitter.

I just did..... he really is a knob
The biggest moaning complaining gobshite about literally anything around.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 12, 2021, 08:10:13 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 12, 2021, 08:11:15 PM
Lukaku off the mark
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 12, 2021, 08:19:06 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?
That's the contact the Ref seen.


 (https://ibb.co/R21j0wL)

Schmeichel was poor on the Finland goal
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 12, 2021, 08:25:53 PM
"I signed Glen Kamara for Arsenal when he was 13 ... it's great when these players who don't make it at big clubs still go on to have a career elsewhere"

Liam Brady with a subtle dig at Rangers Smiling face with open mouth and cold sweat Old habits die hard
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 12, 2021, 09:07:27 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?

DDG could take a better penalty! Woeful!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 12, 2021, 09:29:50 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?
That's the contact the Ref seen.


 (https://ibb.co/R21j0wL)

Schmeichel was poor on the Finland goal

He took a step after that and then dropped...never a pen in my view. Who was the VAR?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 12, 2021, 09:33:56 PM
Do yourself a favour. Don't go on Ewan Mackennas twitter.

I just did..... he really is a knob
The biggest moaning complaining gobshite about literally anything around.

A contrary heure
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 12, 2021, 10:15:54 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?
That's the contact the Ref seen.


 (https://ibb.co/R21j0wL)

Schmeichel was poor on the Finland goal

He took a step after that and then dropped...never a pen in my view. Who was the VAR?
Both Olsen and Delaney exaggerate  the slightest contact to orgasms of pain.

Finland have been on the up since their very good WC 2018 qual campaign, they're tight disciplined  with plenty of skill, albeit  the Danes ran out of juice in the 2nd half along with some awful mistakes  from Schmichel and the penalty taker,  nevertheless the  RTE commentator said If Finland win this, it will be an even bigger shock than when Iceland knocked out  England at Euro 2016 !!!
He's gotta be kiddin'  Iceland were out and out minnows v England in a knock out stage and humiliated them, had them as their bitches.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2021, 11:10:15 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?
That's the contact the Ref seen.


 (https://ibb.co/R21j0wL)

Schmeichel was poor on the Finland goal

He took a step after that and then dropped...never a pen in my view. Who was the VAR?
Both Olsen and Delaney exaggerate  the slightest contact to orgasms of pain.

Finland have been on the up since their very good WC 2018 qual campaign, they're tight disciplined  with plenty of skill, albeit  the Danes ran out of juice in the 2nd half along with some awful mistakes  from Schmichel and the penalty taker,  nevertheless the  RTE commentator said If Finland win this, it will be an even bigger shock than when Iceland knocked out  England at Euro 2016 !!!
He's gotta be kiddin'  Iceland were out and out minnows v England in a knock out stage and humiliated them, had them as their bitches.

I’d say it was more a case of the Danes being mentally exhausted. How could they be in the right frame of mind after what happened their teammate?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 12, 2021, 11:17:35 PM
That wasn’t a penalty, did VAR even check it?
That's the contact the Ref seen.


 (https://ibb.co/R21j0wL)

Schmeichel was poor on the Finland goal

Gee I wonder why his head wasn't in the right place?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2021, 11:47:27 PM
That today (for me, completely detached from being a supporter, Danish or mildly interested) was traumatic to watch, can you imagine how those players fans and family were going through when that defibrillator was being used and the medic was doing CPR right in front of them?

Pure awful. Hope to never witness anything like that
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: sid waddell on June 13, 2021, 12:24:44 AM
Defibrillators are gold dust

If anything good comes out of today's sickening incident it will hopefully be that message

Everywhere sport is played needs to have them on site

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 13, 2021, 12:42:38 AM
That today (for me, completely detached from being a supporter, Danish or mildly interested) was traumatic to watch, can you imagine how those players fans and family were going through when that defibrillator was being used and the medic was doing CPR right in front of them?

Pure awful. Hope to never witness anything like that

The crowd reaction when the defib was used was disturbing. It was what we all were thinking watching on TV.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 12:55:35 AM
Both sets of fans began chanting Eriksen’s name after the teams left the pitch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MVCSg6pEDYk
 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MVCSg6pEDYk)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Rich Ricci on June 13, 2021, 09:04:51 AM
Defibrillators are gold dust

If anything good comes out of today's sickening incident it will hopefully be that message

Everywhere sport is played needs to have them on site

+1 on all that. I’d nearly go as far to say that anyone in charge of a team at any level should have correct training on how to use them. Its all well and good in a packed stadium with medical personnel on hand but if that were to happen at a saturday morning league game at the local leisure centre or a challenge game at the GAA club the chances of having someone around to operate the thing wouldn’t be so high.

Maybe this training is already mandatory.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Nanderson on June 13, 2021, 10:42:52 AM
Defibrillators are gold dust

If anything good comes out of today's sickening incident it will hopefully be that message

Everywhere sport is played needs to have them on site

+1 on all that. I’d nearly go as far to say that anyone in charge of a team at any level should have correct training on how to use them. Its all well and good in a packed stadium with medical personnel on hand but if that were to happen at a saturday morning league game at the local leisure centre or a challenge game at the GAA club the chances of having someone around to operate the thing wouldn’t be so high.

Maybe this training is already mandatory.
I'm sure there is training on how to use a defib but the whole point of them is that anyone should be able to pick it up and use it. The defib audibly guides you through instructions on how to use it afaik. It also won't shock the person if it can detect a heart beat as some people may have misjudged a weak pulse for no pulse. Very clever machine
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2021, 10:54:02 AM
Defibrillators are gold dust

If anything good comes out of today's sickening incident it will hopefully be that message

Everywhere sport is played needs to have them on site

+1 on all that. I’d nearly go as far to say that anyone in charge of a team at any level should have correct training on how to use them. Its all well and good in a packed stadium with medical personnel on hand but if that were to happen at a saturday morning league game at the local leisure centre or a challenge game at the GAA club the chances of having someone around to operate the thing wouldn’t be so high.

Maybe this training is already mandatory.
I'm sure there is training on how to use a defib but the whole point of them is that anyone should be able to pick it up and use it. The defib audibly guides you through instructions on how to use it afaik. It also won't shock the person if it can detect a heart beat as some people may have misjudged a weak pulse for no pulse. Very clever machine
Exactly - the repeated posts on Twitter etc. about training in use of a defib could put people off using it for fear of lack of training. They are practically idiot proof.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 13, 2021, 11:26:19 AM
Joao Cancelo out of Euros after positive COVID test. Diogo Dalot called into Portugal squad as replacement.

Having it in 11 different Cities in a pandemic was a poor idea.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Rich Ricci on June 13, 2021, 11:50:37 AM
Defibrillators are gold dust

If anything good comes out of today's sickening incident it will hopefully be that message

Everywhere sport is played needs to have them on site

+1 on all that. I’d nearly go as far to say that anyone in charge of a team at any level should have correct training on how to use them. Its all well and good in a packed stadium with medical personnel on hand but if that were to happen at a saturday morning league game at the local leisure centre or a challenge game at the GAA club the chances of having someone around to operate the thing wouldn’t be so high.

Maybe this training is already mandatory.
I'm sure there is training on how to use a defib but the whole point of them is that anyone should be able to pick it up and use it. The defib audibly guides you through instructions on how to use it afaik. It also won't shock the person if it can detect a heart beat as some people may have misjudged a weak pulse for no pulse. Very clever machine
Exactly - the repeated posts on Twitter etc. about training in use of a defib could put people off using it for fear of lack of training. They are practically idiot proof.

Both them points are fair enough then. I’d never have known that they were as easy to use as you say and probably wouldn’t dream of touching one in fear of rendering it useless for when someone who was trained finally arrived. Not sure there ease of use is all that common knowledge?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 12:31:51 PM
Joao Cancelo out of Euros after positive COVID test. Diogo Dalot called into Portugal squad as replacement.

Having it in 11 different Cities in a pandemic was a poor idea.

Fixed that.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2021, 01:05:41 PM
Defibrillators are gold dust

If anything good comes out of today's sickening incident it will hopefully be that message

Everywhere sport is played needs to have them on site

+1 on all that. I’d nearly go as far to say that anyone in charge of a team at any level should have correct training on how to use them. Its all well and good in a packed stadium with medical personnel on hand but if that were to happen at a saturday morning league game at the local leisure centre or a challenge game at the GAA club the chances of having someone around to operate the thing wouldn’t be so high.

Maybe this training is already mandatory.
I'm sure there is training on how to use a defib but the whole point of them is that anyone should be able to pick it up and use it. The defib audibly guides you through instructions on how to use it afaik. It also won't shock the person if it can detect a heart beat as some people may have misjudged a weak pulse for no pulse. Very clever machine
Exactly - the repeated posts on Twitter etc. about training in use of a defib could put people off using it for fear of lack of training. They are practically idiot proof.

Both them points are fair enough then. I’d never have known that they were as easy to use as you say and probably wouldn’t dream of touching one in fear of rendering it useless for when someone who was trained finally arrived. Not sure there ease of use is all that common knowledge?
I'd agree with your point in that awareness is required rather than formal training. We have had the ones in work demoed to us as part of first aid training and they are well designed with a combination of visual and audible cues. There is little more complex than getting the 2 pads in the correct location (there is a diagram), then the device will talk to the operator and tell them when to stand clear, when to press the button to shock and when it is safe to recommence CPR. They are essential kit - our first aid trainer said (from recollection) you only have an 8% chance of survival without one which goes up to approx 75% with one.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 13, 2021, 01:17:26 PM
Southgate has picked Trippier at left back for England instead of Shaw or Chilwell. A strange choice given the options he has. Chilwell and the attacker Sancho don't even make the bench.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2021, 01:21:19 PM
Southgate has picked Trippier at left back for England instead of Shaw or Chilwell. A strange choice given the options he has. Chilwell and the attacker Sancho don't even make the bench.

It's a odd looking team and he's playing two defensive midfielders which shows he hasn't a lot of confidence his centre back pairing of Stones and Mings.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2021, 01:33:43 PM
Surely there are better options than Ming's?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 13, 2021, 02:31:00 PM
Surely there are better options than Ming's?

There probably is. But GS seems to like a balance in there.  Ming's teammate Konsa for example has had a better season but on the right side.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 13, 2021, 03:06:16 PM
I listened to  ht punditry  from both channels RTÉ and BBC and Didi and Liam are way ahead in their analysis of the first half, but I suppose some allowances to be made for home team bias.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2021, 03:11:48 PM
Kyle Walker looks like he'd be doing well to get a game at Mallusk.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Rich Ricci on June 13, 2021, 03:23:11 PM
I listened to  ht punditry  from both channels RTÉ and BBC and Didi and Liam are way ahead in their analysis of the first half, but I suppose some allowances to be made for home team bias.

I generally watch on ITV/BBC because I can get them in HD on my TV but for the Wales game yesterday I just had to turn over to RTE as Robbie Savage was completely insufferable. Ten times more than he is normally.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 13, 2021, 03:48:10 PM
I listened to  ht punditry  from both channels RTÉ and BBC and Didi and Liam are way ahead in their analysis of the first half, but I suppose some allowances to be made for home team bias.

Have a cup of tea, take a piss or get a bit of fresh air into ur lungs FFS. Watching one lot of pundits is bad enough without inflicting two on yourself  :)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 13, 2021, 03:50:16 PM
Pickford hasn't had a save to make.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 04:07:58 PM
I listened to  ht punditry  from both channels RTÉ and BBC and Didi and Liam are way ahead in their analysis of the first half, but I suppose some allowances to be made for home team bias.

I generally watch on ITV/BBC because I can get them in HD on my TV but for the Wales game yesterday I just had to turn over to RTE as Robbie Savage was completely insufferable. Ten times more than he is normally.

Jermaine Jenas is brutal. How does he get all this media work? Oh wait....
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 13, 2021, 07:41:56 PM
Surprised 1966 replay not on yet or did I miss something?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 13, 2021, 08:22:38 PM
The RTE commentator  made a reference to the magnificent Jordi Cruyff Arena  ;D
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 08:53:22 PM
The Scottish lad playing for Netherlands has missed a couple of great chances.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 13, 2021, 08:59:52 PM
A decent game. The Dutch lacking a Kluivert or Van Persie to finish the chances.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 13, 2021, 09:01:24 PM
It's coming home.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: clarshack on June 13, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Croatia not as good as 3 years ago, thought both teams were average enough actually.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: clarshack on June 13, 2021, 09:16:56 PM
The Dutch don’t look too bad.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: clarshack on June 13, 2021, 09:36:33 PM
Well maybe not anymore.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
Fine comeback by the Ukraine out of nothing.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 13, 2021, 09:37:13 PM
Two brilliant goals.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 13, 2021, 09:37:55 PM
Brilliant second half.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 13, 2021, 09:41:01 PM
For Ukraine's first, Stekelenburg looked too far off his line.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2021, 09:42:09 PM
That goalie is awful.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 09:43:32 PM
The Scottish lad has won it for them.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 13, 2021, 10:03:32 PM
The best game of the tournament so far and the best goal of the tournament. Holland are short their best defender Van Dijk and their best attacking player Van De Beek but they still have De Ligt to come back in defence. They will need him if they want to go far.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 13, 2021, 10:11:27 PM
Good to have Dutch back in a big tournament. They failed to Qualify for Euro 2016 and the World Cup in 18
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 13, 2021, 10:12:03 PM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: thewobbler on June 13, 2021, 10:17:49 PM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!

What an absolutely bizarre observation.

But in the same vein, it’s truly shocking how Canada have so few World Cups.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2021, 10:21:26 PM
Holland doesn't have Gaelic football, hurling, Rugby to deal with.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: thewobbler on June 13, 2021, 10:22:42 PM
Holland doesn't have Gaelic football, hurling, Rugby to deal with.
Without the additional acreage there’s no room for it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2021, 10:43:22 PM
17 plus million people live in Holland...
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 10:48:46 PM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!

The Dutch had an empire as well. Lots of those lads and their parents come from Suriname and a few Caribbean islands.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 13, 2021, 11:29:59 PM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!

The Dutch had an empire as well. Lots of those lads and their parents come from Suriname and a few Caribbean islands.

And Darren Randolph's da is a ham shank. So what?  He declared for Ireland!
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!

The Dutch had an empire as well. Lots of those lads and their parents come from Suriname and a few Caribbean islands.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2021, 11:35:51 PM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!

The Dutch had an empire as well. Lots of those lads and their parents come from Suriname and a few Caribbean islands.

And Darren Randolph's da is a ham shank. So what?  He declared for Ireland!
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!

The Dutch had an empire as well. Lots of those lads and their parents come from Suriname and a few Caribbean islands.

But there’s a big proportion  of recent Dutch players who originated from those places: Kluivert, Seedorf, Hasselbaink, Davids, Gullit, Riijkaard, and I presume Winaldum, Van Hooijdonk, Winter, Roy, Bronckhorst etc etc. Look at the French team too, lots of players from Algeria, Senegal, French Guyana etc.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Mario on June 14, 2021, 07:36:14 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on June 14, 2021, 08:16:57 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.

That and their 17.28 million population  ;)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trailer on June 14, 2021, 09:22:19 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.

That and their 17.28 million population  ;)

It's doubtful if Soccer is the 3rd most popular sport in Ireland.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 14, 2021, 09:36:44 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.

That and their 17.28 million population  ;)

Their facilities are on a different planet to ours. I have family living there so have experienced it first hand. Primarily football, but also excellent setups for Athletics, Hockey and Cricket too.
Population density makes this so much easier of course.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 14, 2021, 09:44:53 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.

That and their 17.28 million population  ;)

Their facilities are on a different planet to ours. I have family living there so have experienced it first hand. Primarily football, but also excellent setups for Athletics, Hockey and Cricket too.
Population density makes this so much easier of course.

They are a far healthier nation than us. They don't live off frys, crisps and beer.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 14, 2021, 09:46:10 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.

That and their 17.28 million population  ;)

It's doubtful if Soccer is the 3rd most popular sport in Ireland.

Ah I'd say it is. It's only surpassed by gaelic football and hurling.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Mario on June 14, 2021, 09:47:54 AM
Netherlands is half the size of Ireland in land mass and look at the footballers they have produced!
Ah land mass, a critical indicator of the success of a football team and why Canada are one of the greatest sides in the world.

That and their 17.28 million population  ;)

It's doubtful if Soccer is the 3rd most popular sport in Ireland.

Ah I'd say it is. It's only surpassed by gaelic football and hurling.
I'd say soccer is definitely played by more people than Hurling. I'd have it at number 2.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2021, 10:18:06 AM
By numbers Association football (soccer) is the most played team sport in Ireland, has been for a number of years, we just don't give it the time of day really  in terms of money set up, the  other stuff that the GAA brings, for many years it was always look at as a garrison sport so never really had any big history going back, its been competing with the national sports of GAA hurling and football and there are many schools (less now i suppose) that never entertained 'soccer' in their schools.

That's all changing so it won't be long, 50 years or so, that soccer will completely outstrip GAA even more, your gaa football players will drop off and turn their footy skills to soccer, hurlers won't have that sporting 'cousin' to turn to
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: clarshack on June 14, 2021, 11:43:27 AM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 14, 2021, 11:50:42 AM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.

What's rare is wonderful. There are 8 Ulster championship games (excluding potential replays) every single year. Ireland have played 13 World Cup games - in total, since World Cups began.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Denn Forever on June 14, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.

Surely there was a venue closer than Clones where that game could have been played?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: trailer on June 14, 2021, 12:19:14 PM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.

What's rare is wonderful. There are 8 Ulster championship games (excluding potential replays) every single year. Ireland have played 13 World Cup games - in total, since World Cups began.

Clones town was full, they just didn't go up to the game as it went to E/T and pens.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: J70 on June 14, 2021, 12:25:39 PM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.

They all arrived into the match after the penalties were over.

Think I was one of about 200 people there for the first half.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 14, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
Any photos or footage of the terraces that day? Would be interesting to see. I'd say the players would rather have been watching it too.

Do I remember a Leinster final being delayed because of an Ireland game at Euro 2016? Must have been the France game?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 14, 2021, 02:21:08 PM
Any photos or footage of the terraces that day? Would be interesting to see. I'd say the players would rather have been watching it too.

Do I remember a Leinster final being delayed because of an Ireland game at Euro 2016? Must have been the France game?

Wasn't delayed I don't think. Was Westmeath and Kildare in Leinster semi. There was nobody at it. And yes, it threw in at half time in the France game, with Ireland one up.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 14, 2021, 02:42:55 PM
Is Tierney injured again?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2021, 02:47:35 PM
Was about to post that Scotland weren't getting things their own way and they go one down..

Game on for them.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 14, 2021, 03:10:39 PM
Some goal that.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 14, 2021, 03:25:02 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2021, 03:26:59 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.
Punished for mistakes. Plucky losers.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2021, 03:37:06 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.
Punished for mistakes. Plucky losers.

Czech keeper getting busy.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 14, 2021, 03:45:17 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.

They've run around a lot, I'll give them that.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 14, 2021, 03:55:25 PM
Poor auld Scotland.

https://youtu.be/2T68AXsUAEI
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: screenexile on June 14, 2021, 03:56:30 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.

They've run around a lot, I'll give them that.

Yeah they tried hard and fair play to them for that but it was a lot of aimless crosses and not a huge amount of quality!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 14, 2021, 04:25:28 PM
How come the euros seem to be doing VAR well but the PL makes a complete balls of it?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 14, 2021, 04:31:44 PM
Because England is now free to not follow Europe's oppressive laws.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2021, 04:35:40 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.

This video is better than today's performance was

https://youtu.be/0HerNnMqFdA
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: sid waddell on June 14, 2021, 05:04:49 PM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.
There was a mass exodus at the Leinster Hurling Semis in 1990 after Dublin beat Wexford in the first game

They all piled out to see Ireland play Egypt

The few who stayed to see Offaly stick four goals past Kilkenny in the first 20 minutes probably got the better end of the bargain

Derry v Donegal in the 1995 NFL final was another that clashed with the evil of Big Soccer, in this case the final day the 1994/95 Premier League season

Manchester United's Anthony Tohill missed out winning on a second league medal in the one day as they blew it at West Ham
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 14, 2021, 06:30:42 PM
Another good game Slovakia v Poland. It's been a very good tournament, only lacking a full house atmosphere.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 14, 2021, 06:35:34 PM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.
In fairness they are two counties where soccer has a bigger reach than most, so there was a natural interest in it to begin with.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 14, 2021, 07:32:57 PM
During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.

The GAA were still in foreign code ban mode back then.

True there are people on both sides of Soccer and GAA that hate the other. But there are way more these days who like both and are involved in both!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 14, 2021, 08:01:03 PM
I'd wonder how many Real Madrid players are watching this Spanish match at home.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2021, 08:15:27 PM
I'd wonder how many Real Madrid players are watching this Spainish match at home.

How many players are Spanish on the first team and should be involved if fit? Isco?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2021, 08:24:09 PM
Another good game Slovakia v Poland. It's been a very good tournament, only lacking a full house atmosphere.
If the Olympics are cancelled/a clusterfuck this might be the last major soccer tournament for a while.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 14, 2021, 08:53:08 PM
I was wondering why Marko Arnautovic was getting angry after he scored for Austria https://t.co/0XtCcat9Rw?amp=1

 He's some header
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 14, 2021, 09:00:31 PM
Great finish from the Czech player. But wtf was the Scottish  keeper at???
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 14, 2021, 09:59:22 PM
Nice to see a solid  hard working 442 do the business for Sweden v Spain.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 14, 2021, 10:33:51 PM
As a nation, no matter what sport, the Scots have cornered the market in playing well and losing. They have dominated this game.

They've run around a lot, I'll give them that.

Yeah they tried hard and fair play to them for that but it was a lot of aimless crosses and not a huge amount of quality!

Robertson crosses were perfect. He just didn't have Salah or Mane with him today.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 14, 2021, 11:04:29 PM
What’s with all the women as pundits and co-commentators? Is it not a bit of an overkill?

Part of the interest of pundits/co-comm is players giving us wee snippets of information about certain players. Maybe they played with or against them or managed them. Little bits about their training methods, what they’re like in changing room, or in normal life. You’re not going to get that with women there.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2021, 11:23:38 PM
What’s with all the women as pundits and co-commentators? Is it not a bit of an overkill?

Part of the interest of pundits/co-comm is players giving us wee snippets of information about certain players. Maybe they played with or against them or managed them. Little bits about their training methods, what they’re like in changing room, or in normal life. You’re not going to get that with women there.

It’s overkill, though some are good, well one,  Alex Scott is decent
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2021, 11:30:28 PM
Aye they are falling over themselves to shoe-horn a woman pundit but many of them just aren't very good.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 14, 2021, 11:59:46 PM
Feckin´nordie neanderthals,
Save soccer punditry from women!! 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 15, 2021, 07:34:04 AM
No point complaining about women pundits when our ears still have to listen to Danny Murphy and Robbie Savage.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Dire Ear on June 15, 2021, 09:52:49 AM
Would a tenner on Portugal to win whole thing be stupid??
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 15, 2021, 10:31:51 AM
No not at all. They are the holders after all and have a better Squad then in 16. Dias, Bernardo Silva, Joao Felix, Bruno Fernandes have come into the Squad since then.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Dire Ear on June 15, 2021, 10:32:25 AM
8/1 seems a decent bet
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 15, 2021, 10:37:19 AM

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2021, 10:59:46 AM
No not at all. They are the holders after all and have a better Squad then in 16. Dias, Bernardo Silva, Joao Felix, Bruno Fernandes have come into the Squad since then.
Jaysus they do have a strong squad. The in form CB in the world (Dias), the top scoring midfielder in Bruno, plus obviously Ronaldo still has magic in him. Is Pepe still in the squad?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 15, 2021, 11:05:10 AM
No not at all. They are the holders after all and have a better Squad then in 16. Dias, Bernardo Silva, Joao Felix, Bruno Fernandes have come into the Squad since then.
Jaysus they do have a strong squad. The in form CB in the world (Dias), the top scoring midfielder in Bruno, plus obviously Ronaldo still has magic in him. Is Pepe still in the squad?

Pepe and Dias will be the 2 CHs.  Bruno wont be hitting the pens. Cancelo has tested positive for Covid so that is a bit of a blow
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2021, 11:52:53 AM
No not at all. They are the holders after all and have a better Squad then in 16. Dias, Bernardo Silva, Joao Felix, Bruno Fernandes have come into the Squad since then.
Jaysus they do have a strong squad. The in form CB in the world (Dias), the top scoring midfielder in Bruno, plus obviously Ronaldo still has magic in him. Is Pepe still in the squad?

Pepe and Dias will be the 2 CHs.  Bruno wont be hitting the pens. Cancelo has tested positive for Covid so that is a bit of a blow
They won’t be easy beat, tough old group they’re in though. Be some achievement to retain the Euros.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: yellowcard on June 15, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
Would a tenner on Portugal to win whole thing be stupid??

There are about 8 teams could realistically win it and they are one of them. It's the end of a long season, players are weary and fatigued physically and mentally but I would still expect the last 4 to be the elite in Europe. Any side can spring a surprise once but I can't see it happening 2 or 3 times in this tournament which is what is needed for an outsider to win it. France, Belguim, Portugal & Italy are the 4 most likely winners and whilst I think France have the best squad on paper, if I was backing anyone it would be Italy.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 15, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
The thing about the euros is it has been won by total outsiders in the past. Denmark and Greece were not consided as contenders or even dark horses before they won. So the same could happen this year.

The world cup is different it seems to always be won by one of the top 2 or 3 teams.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 15, 2021, 01:09:45 PM
Even Portugal wouldve been classed as a shock/somewhat a one man team four yrs ago no? Theyre deffo stronger all round than before but the statto in me says its rare for a team to retain the euros but shure fuckitt tear on its only a tenner and theyll give you a sweat for it hopefully

#mytuppence
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 15, 2021, 01:43:57 PM



"When it really matters" is the translation of the Danish words at the top.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 15, 2021, 01:53:24 PM
The thing about the euros is it has been won by total outsiders in the past. Denmark and Greece were not consided as contenders or even dark horses before they won. So the same could happen this year.

The world cup is different it seems to always be won by one of the top 2 or 3 teams.

Turkey ran Germany close in 08 semi too so there is a chance we could see another Greece.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 15, 2021, 05:44:14 PM
Full attendance in Budapest 67,000 which is giving Hungary a good lift.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2021, 05:48:31 PM
Some sitter missed by Ronaldo.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 05:56:37 PM
What is thon girl wearing on ITV? Christ the night ....
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: HiMucker on June 15, 2021, 06:07:50 PM
Rule one!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2021, 06:25:56 PM
What is thon girl wearing on ITV? Christ the night ....
I'll have to switch over. On RTE Ger Canning is raving about the managers face, looks like the dog ate his favourite jumper.

Two lucky deflections on that Portugal goal.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 15, 2021, 06:49:34 PM
3rd goal was class.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: clarshack on June 15, 2021, 06:49:44 PM
Scoreline is harsh on Hungary.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 08:21:37 PM
Some ball from Pogba
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 15, 2021, 09:28:33 PM
The linesman lets Mbappe score a great goal and then puts the flag up. Ridiculous stuff, who in charge thinks that is the way the game should be played?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 09:31:35 PM
The linesman lets Mbappe score a great goal and then puts the flag up. Ridiculous stuff, who in charge thinks that is the way the game should be played?
Is it because after the play they can check,via VAR, to ensure it’s the correct call?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2021, 09:33:55 PM
The linesman lets Mbappe score a great goal and then puts the flag up. Ridiculous stuff, who in charge thinks that is the way the game should be played?
Is it because after the play they can check,via VAR, to ensure it’s the correct call?

Not much need of having linesmen if that's that rule.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2021, 09:38:29 PM
Mccoist talking about Hummels being slow due to his age there. Hummels had had the potential to be caught like that for years. He got caught like that against Argentina in the World Cup final but he’s generally smart enough, and Germany are setup well enough, to get away with it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 15, 2021, 09:46:02 PM
McCoist in the same Pogba fan club as Souness.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: An Watcher on June 15, 2021, 09:48:28 PM
Best game of football I've seen in a long time
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2021, 09:51:39 PM
It is entertaining. France just have that bit more quality. Benzema big addition.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 09:53:49 PM
The linesman lets Mbappe score a great goal and then puts the flag up. Ridiculous stuff, who in charge thinks that is the way the game should be played?
Is it because after the play they can check,via VAR, to ensure it’s the correct call?

Not much need of having linesmen if that's that rule.
Or referees
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: bennydorano on June 15, 2021, 10:33:11 PM
France only getting going, they could piss this tournament
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Dire Ear on June 15, 2021, 11:54:10 PM
You twist all or only 73% of the time MR?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 11:57:59 PM
You twist all or only 73% of the time MR?

Twist what?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Dire Ear on June 16, 2021, 09:47:17 AM
You twist all or only 73% of the time MR?

Twist what?
Never mind, I misread your comments
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 16, 2021, 09:57:55 AM
That was a very Paisley jnr like apology Dire Ear 😃

Readin between the lines youve realised he wasnt twisting this time but in general is a twisting heure 😂

I stand with Dire Ear. Morning MR2 😎
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2021, 10:49:37 AM
That was a very Paisley jnr like apology Dire Ear 😃

Readin between the lines youve realised he wasnt twisting this time but in general is a twisting heure 😂

I stand with Dire Ear. Morning MR2 😎

You lot are a tight bunch..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 16, 2021, 11:44:29 AM
France looked quiet solid didn't they, even during long periods of possession by Germany.  Kante is a machine and Mbappe is rapid! 

This letting lads play on for about 10 seconds and score a goal even though the linesman clearly knows he is offside... not for me.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Dire Ear on June 16, 2021, 12:13:42 PM
That was a very Paisley jnr like apology Dire Ear 😃

Readin between the lines youve realised he wasnt twisting this time but in general is a twisting heure 😂

I stand with Dire Ear. Morning MR2 😎
;D ;D ;D,  life's too short
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 16, 2021, 03:10:38 PM
Apparently Cokes value has dropped $4bn because of Ronaldo? Is this accurate??
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 16, 2021, 03:22:11 PM
Because of, or coincidental, the shares dropped after he did it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/16/cristiano-ronaldo-snubs-coca-cola-billions-wiped-off-drink-giants-market-value (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/16/cristiano-ronaldo-snubs-coca-cola-billions-wiped-off-drink-giants-market-value)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 16, 2021, 05:37:50 PM
Because of, or coincidental, the shares dropped after he did it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/16/cristiano-ronaldo-snubs-coca-cola-billions-wiped-off-drink-giants-market-value (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/16/cristiano-ronaldo-snubs-coca-cola-billions-wiped-off-drink-giants-market-value)
Crazy.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2021, 06:23:04 PM
Wales should be about 4-0 up here
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2021, 06:33:16 PM
Might be lucky to hold on at this rate.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2021, 06:36:27 PM
Might be lucky to hold on at this rate.
Yep. Could rue some of those first half misses.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2021, 06:48:31 PM
Danny Ward has had a great tournament so far, he was very good in the first game also.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2021, 06:54:31 PM
Good finish. 2-01 to 0-00.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 16, 2021, 06:56:40 PM
Bale was excellent, penalty aside
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: bennydorano on June 16, 2021, 07:05:01 PM
Best game so far
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 16, 2021, 07:06:22 PM
Slap it up the Turks. They didn't like not having it their own way.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 16, 2021, 07:08:08 PM
The Welsh made much better use of their much less possession.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 16, 2021, 08:16:21 PM
Bale and Ramsey are still top players. The Turks didn't have anyone to match them, nor do Ireland at this moment in time.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: An Watcher on June 16, 2021, 08:19:52 PM
Tell you what, Wales are well clued into the diving now, not just bale for the penalty but the team in general.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 16, 2021, 08:40:49 PM
Tell you what, Wales are well clued into the diving now, not just bale for the penalty but the team in general.

That will be the Giggs influence.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 16, 2021, 09:11:32 PM
Locatelli will be in demand after this tournament.  Some performance.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 16, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
Italy are impressive, almost perfect.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2021, 09:38:49 PM
They’re very good but I have a funny feeling they won’t be clinical enough to beat the top few teams. Should have had quite a few here.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: weareros on June 16, 2021, 09:41:18 PM
Italy are impressive, almost perfect.

Surprising for an Italian team, a joy to watch. Always on the attack at some pace.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2021, 09:42:35 PM
Italy have been super but leaving a few goals behind.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 16, 2021, 09:56:46 PM
Tell you what, Wales are well clued into the diving now, not just bale for the penalty but the team in general.

That will be the Giggs influence.

Like Best, Giggs mainly rode the tackles got up and then scored. Unlike some others
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2021, 09:58:05 PM
Tell you what, Wales are well clued into the diving now, not just bale for the penalty but the team in general.

That will be the Giggs influence.

Like Best, Giggs mainly rode the tackles got up and then scored. Unlike some others
Not the only thing Giggs rode  ;D
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: yellowcard on June 16, 2021, 10:03:11 PM
Italy have been super but leaving a few goals behind.

Twenty eight matches unbeaten now and they’ve been very impressive so far playing a good brand of football. They are potential winners especially if they can retain home venue advantage until deep in the tournament as they are almost impossible to beat at home.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 16, 2021, 10:53:39 PM
Tell you what, Wales are well clued into the diving now, not just bale for the penalty but the team in general.

That will be the Giggs influence.

Like Best, Giggs mainly rode the tackles got up and then scored. Unlike some others

Did he shite. Giggs went down at the slightest contact. Such a frustrating player.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 16, 2021, 10:54:44 PM
Tell you what, Wales are well clued into the diving now, not just bale for the penalty but the team in general.

That will be the Giggs influence.

Like Best, Giggs mainly rode the tackles got up and then scored. Unlike some others
Not the only thing Giggs rode  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 16, 2021, 11:46:49 PM
Italy are impressive, almost perfect.

Surprising for an Italian team, a joy to watch. Always on the attack at some pace.

Never liked the Italians, always defensive with a hefty dose of cynicism. Comin around to this lot though, play nicer football, great passion, and a national anthem thats unrivalled
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
They're playing a Celtic Park rendition of YNWA  over the PA before the Denmark Belgium game.
No doubt to inject an authentic atmosphere into the sentiment of solidarity.

Regardlesss of what happened to Eriksen I'm up for Belgium and hope they tonk the Danes.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 17, 2021, 05:06:07 PM
The Danes off to a great start. The Belgium defence will be their undoing in this tournament
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 17, 2021, 05:50:29 PM
Great atmosphere in the Parken stadium. A must win for Denmark and that roar of the crowd might carry Denmark over the line.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: yellowcard on June 17, 2021, 06:01:12 PM
Its bound to be difficult for Belguim to play the Danes today given the wave of emotion in the stadium but they have been majorly disappointing in that first half. Certainly don't look like tournament contenders so far. 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 17, 2021, 06:30:04 PM
An assist and now a goal, some impact by DeBruyne.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 17, 2021, 06:33:42 PM
With De Bruyne and Eden Hazard coming back to fitness and form the Belgians are a much better prospect.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: yellowcard on June 17, 2021, 06:45:49 PM
With De Bruyne and Eden Hazard coming back to fitness and form the Belgians are a much better prospect.

Definitely need those 2 fit and available, De Bruyne has turned the match.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Rich Ricci on June 17, 2021, 08:09:18 PM
With De Bruyne and Eden Hazard coming back to fitness and form the Belgians are a much better prospect.

I would be sceptical enough about any chance of Hazard returning to fitness or form. Pity.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 17, 2021, 08:13:40 PM
Denmark shouldn't have been forced to continue the game against Finland on the day of the collapse.
They probably would have beaten Finland a few days later given subsequent results.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2021, 11:42:57 PM
Denmark shouldn't have been forced to continue the game against Finland on the day of the collapse.
They probably would have beaten Finland a few days later given subsequent results.
Denmark were not forced to return to the pitch and finish the game,  they just made a bad choice, they should have opted to finish the game the next day.
They're a bunch of whiners blaming UEFA after the Finns beat them.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2021, 11:46:49 PM
Denmark were lucky to win the Euros in 1992. They were unlucky this time round. Thems the breaks!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 17, 2021, 11:46:55 PM
Denmark shouldn't have been forced to continue the game against Finland on the day of the collapse.
They probably would have beaten Finland a few days later given subsequent results.
Denmark were not forced to return to the pitch and finish the game,  they just made a bad choice, they should have opted to finish the game the next day.
They're a bunch of whiners blaming UEFA after the Finns beat them.

Is that you, Ronnie Whelan?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2021, 11:51:56 PM
He's right though. The Schmeichels are being a bit dicky about it all. 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 18, 2021, 07:46:58 AM
Denmark shouldn't have been forced to continue the game against Finland on the day of the collapse.
They probably would have beaten Finland a few days later given subsequent results.
They got the choice to play the next day, which they definitely should have taken.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 18, 2021, 07:59:09 AM
Ueffa could have made it fair and deemed the match a draw. They had 45 minutes played.
Playing later that night they were obviously going to be affected
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 18, 2021, 09:42:07 AM
Ueffa could have made it fair and deemed the match a draw. They had 45 minutes played.
Playing later that night they were obviously going to be affected
Absolutely. Seeing that is bound to have a huge effect on the players state of mind, we’ve seen numerous times when players have suffered nasty leg breaks how it has impacted team mate, obviously what happened Eriksen was on a whole other level!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 18, 2021, 09:49:38 AM
Everton should have had Dumfries signature in the bag before this tournament. He's either going to cost a lot more or f**k off to Real Madrid or the likes..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2021, 02:26:42 PM
Who to support...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTQPzfvkqhk
 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTQPzfvkqhk)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Main Street on June 18, 2021, 05:20:40 PM
Ueffa could have made it fair and deemed the match a draw. They had 45 minutes played.
Playing later that night they were obviously going to be affected
Absolutely. Seeing that is bound to have a huge effect on the players state of mind, we’ve seen numerous times when players have suffered nasty leg breaks how it has impacted team mate, obviously what happened Eriksen was on a whole other level!
The game had to be finished, there is no option in the regulations to deem an abandoned game a draw. The Danes would have been in a much better shape (relatively speaking)  to finish out the game the next day. And hypothetically if the Danes had been offered a draw instead of playing out the game on Sunday, what do think they would have chosen?
For some bizzare reason the players  foolishly decided to finish the game on Saturday. Their FA, doctors, psychologists, mentors, should have intervened and guided the players to a more sensible decision.  UEFA had offered a choice of schedule without prejudice.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Nanderson on June 18, 2021, 05:32:55 PM
Ueffa could have made it fair and deemed the match a draw. They had 45 minutes played.
Playing later that night they were obviously going to be affected
Absolutely. Seeing that is bound to have a huge effect on the players state of mind, we’ve seen numerous times when players have suffered nasty leg breaks how it has impacted team mate, obviously what happened Eriksen was on a whole other level!
The game had to be finished, there is no option in the regulations to deem an abandoned game a draw. The Danes would have been in a much better shape (relatively speaking)  to finish out the game the next day. And hypothetically if the Danes had been offered a draw instead of playing out the game on Sunday, what do think they would have chosen?
For some bizzare reason the players  foolishly decided to finish the game on Saturday. Their FA, doctors, psychologists, mentors, should have intervened and guided the players to a more sensible decision.  UEFA had offered a choice of schedule without prejudice.
This is my reasoning behind them agreeing to finish the game that night. Not knowing the fate of Erikson once he had spoken to them at the hospital or if he would pass away over night, I am sure they didnt want to take the risk of having to play the game the next day knowing he had passed away as the only other option after that was to forfeit the game 3 nil. The players having seen that he was awake at the hospital shortly before they restarted the game would have felt more at ease to finish the match there and then. Just my take on things
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2021, 06:04:17 PM
The circumstances of the abandonment were very particular and very emotional. A player briefly died. The rules were designed for other stuff.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 18, 2021, 06:12:42 PM
Ueffa could have made it fair and deemed the match a draw. They had 45 minutes played.
Playing later that night they were obviously going to be affected
Absolutely. Seeing that is bound to have a huge effect on the players state of mind, we’ve seen numerous times when players have suffered nasty leg breaks how it has impacted team mate, obviously what happened Eriksen was on a whole other level!
The game had to be finished, there is no option in the regulations to deem an abandoned game a draw. The Danes would have been in a much better shape (relatively speaking)  to finish out the game the next day. And hypothetically if the Danes had been offered a draw instead of playing out the game on Sunday, what do think they would have chosen?
For some bizzare reason the players  foolishly decided to finish the game on Saturday. Their FA, doctors, psychologists, mentors, should have intervened and guided the players to a more sensible decision.  UEFA had offered a choice of schedule without prejudice.

Then maybe they should redraw the rules. If they have no sympathy for a players health then it doesn't say much.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2021, 06:19:26 PM
Ueffa could have made it fair and deemed the match a draw. They had 45 minutes played.
Playing later that night they were obviously going to be affected
Absolutely. Seeing that is bound to have a huge effect on the players state of mind, we’ve seen numerous times when players have suffered nasty leg breaks how it has impacted team mate, obviously what happened Eriksen was on a whole other level!
The game had to be finished, there is no option in the regulations to deem an abandoned game a draw. The Danes would have been in a much better shape (relatively speaking)  to finish out the game the next day. And hypothetically if the Danes had been offered a draw instead of playing out the game on Sunday, what do think they would have chosen?
For some bizzare reason the players  foolishly decided to finish the game on Saturday. Their FA, doctors, psychologists, mentors, should have intervened and guided the players to a more sensible decision.  UEFA had offered a choice of schedule without prejudice.

Then maybe they should redraw the rules. If they have no sympathy for a players health then it doesn't say much.

Did they not make France and Cameroon play 2 or 3 days after Marc Vivien Foe died? Both sets of players were visibly upset. No compassion at all, from FIFA
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Flower of Scotland so much better than that God save the Queen shite.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: weareros on June 18, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
Ivan Yates reffing it well so far.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2021, 08:43:40 PM
https://twitter.com/chantlfc/status/1405944379370528773?s=21
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2021, 08:55:06 PM
How over rated are England. Again. They will probably win this match mind you.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
England look like they need Grealish. Who do they take off though?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: weareros on June 18, 2021, 09:16:10 PM
Looking at Rice, he’s a plain enough English league player. Not that good at all. Grealish does have a bit of wizardry about him. Should be on the field. Hope the Scots can nick a goal here.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2021, 09:20:32 PM
Setup for England to nick a goal I fear :(
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2021, 09:33:25 PM
How over rated are England. Again. They will probably win this match mind you.
England have some great players at the moment but boy do they look ordinary tonight.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2021, 09:37:59 PM
Great is a stretch. They do have some very good ones but as has been the case for years the tactical nous is usually held by foreign managers and by foreign players in the teams around them. If you stick them together without some kind of foreign influence  they just don’t gel.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2021, 09:50:35 PM
The Scots deserved that draw. They still need to beat the Croats to get through.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2021, 09:51:08 PM
Deserved draw for the Scots. For such a hyped up game that was such a let down.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2021, 09:51:49 PM
Could the Czechs beat England? If they don’t improve on that showing it could happen.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: armaghniac on June 18, 2021, 09:54:11 PM
Good performance by Scotland.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2021, 09:55:19 PM
Scotland were very good. Just lacked quality up top.

If the Czechs get a draw v England, they’ll win the group.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: bennydorano on June 18, 2021, 10:00:01 PM
Good performance by Scotland, England pish. Southgate not winning many friends tonight, he's nearly got too much talent at his disposal and he's no idea of his best team.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:01:50 PM
If the Scots beat Croatia 2 nil and the Czech win 2 nil, will England go out?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2021, 10:05:12 PM
Some third placed teams qualify in this tournament do they not?

Wrighty not loving Southgate  ;D

I don’t think Scotland have enough in them to score two goals against Croatia tbh. They are better than I thought in a good few areas but not up front.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: sid waddell on June 18, 2021, 10:19:12 PM
Some third placed teams qualify in this tournament do they not?

Wrighty not loving Southgate  ;D

I don’t think Scotland have enough in them to score two goals against Croatia tbh. They are better than I thought in a good few areas but not up front.
One will do

Croatia look very leggy

It's doable

Question is can Scotland raise their energy levels back to what they were tonight
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 18, 2021, 10:24:12 PM
Some third placed teams qualify in this tournament do they not?

Wrighty not loving Southgate  ;D

I don’t think Scotland have enough in them to score two goals against Croatia tbh. They are better than I thought in a good few areas but not up front.

Only 2 3rd placed teams don’t qualify. England are almost certainly through.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 18, 2021, 10:27:59 PM
If the Scots beat Croatia 2 nil and the Czech win 2 nil, will England go out?

Depends on other groups but it's unlikely.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 18, 2021, 10:29:09 PM
Ironically it's better for England to finish 2nd in this group than win it. 2nd place probably gets them Sweden. Winning the group gets them Portugal, France or Germany.

Southgate is a genius.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2021, 02:50:10 PM
Hungary leading France  :o
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 19, 2021, 02:54:32 PM
Yer man scatterin yer womans table contents in celebration 😃😃
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: weareros on June 19, 2021, 03:28:43 PM
When all else fails, go the Packie Bonner route.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2021, 03:56:50 PM
Fair play to Hungary big result for them, celebrating that draw like a win.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: CK_Redhand on June 19, 2021, 03:57:09 PM
Ref/VAR bottled a last minute penalty decision against the home team.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 19, 2021, 04:20:21 PM
We drew with Hungary just before the start of this tournament. So does that mean we are as good as the world champions France?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2021, 04:36:46 PM
We drew with Hungary just before the start of this tournament. So does that mean we are as good as the world champions France?

Yep.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: weareros on June 19, 2021, 05:17:13 PM
Speed of Ronaldo on that counter attack… defies age.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Nanderson on June 19, 2021, 05:49:18 PM
Speed of Ronaldo on that counter attack… defies age.
When you see him moving the coca cola it just shows you how well he treats his body. His body is a temple
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 19, 2021, 05:50:23 PM
Very good first half. The Germans probaly deserve the lead but Portugal have been good counter attacking.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 19, 2021, 05:52:53 PM
31 degrees in Munich and they need those water breaks. Why have the GAA persisted with water breaks right up to the all ireland finals in December and throughout the leagues as well?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 19, 2021, 05:55:01 PM
Portugal chanelling their inner 2016 Mayo in that half.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2021, 05:55:53 PM
Three goals scored by Portugal and Germany leading 2-1.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 19, 2021, 06:04:26 PM
Three goals scored by Portugal and Germany leading 2-1.

They are not wearing a Green and Red kit for nothing!  ;)
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 19, 2021, 07:43:40 PM
Speed of Ronaldo on that counter attack… defies age.
Wasn't even flat out as had to time it with a moving offside line. Some athlete.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 19, 2021, 07:53:18 PM
Wile man for lookin at heself on the big screen
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2021, 08:15:52 PM
Germany looking good to top that group, A draw in the France Portugal game sends all three through right?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 19, 2021, 08:35:25 PM
Germany looking good to top that group, A draw in the France Portugal game sends all three through right?

If Germany don’t lose, in which case Hungary will go through.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2021, 08:55:30 PM
They should get rid of the Round of 16, and go straight to QFs. There is 36 matches played to eliminate only 8 teams ffs. This 3 teams from most groups going through removes the do or die nature of the competition

Imagine the excitement if only one team went through (plus the two highest 2nd placed teams). Two big hitters from France’s Group could go out early instead of all 3 going through.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 19, 2021, 09:00:50 PM
Less than 30 years there were only 8 teams starting the tournament. 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2021, 09:07:33 PM
They should get rid of the Round of 16, and go straight to QFs. There is 36 matches played to eliminate only 8 teams ffs. This 3 teams from most groups going through removes the do or die nature of the competition

Imagine the excitement if only one team went through (plus the two highest 2nd placed teams). Two big hitters from France’s Group could go out early instead of all 3 going through.

Probably be left a number of dead rubber matches in the final round of group games if that was the format.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Nanderson on June 19, 2021, 09:09:05 PM
They should get rid of the Round of 16, and go straight to QFs. There is 36 matches played to eliminate only 8 teams ffs. This 3 teams from most groups going through removes the do or die nature of the competition

Imagine the excitement if only one team went through (plus the two highest 2nd placed teams). Two big hitters from France’s Group could go out early instead of all 3 going through.

Probably be left a number of dead rubber matches in the final round of group games if that was the format.
Think that was the main reason they added in best placed 3rd place teams into knockouts to give every game a bit of meaning
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2021, 09:26:21 PM
They should get rid of the Round of 16, and go straight to QFs. There is 36 matches played to eliminate only 8 teams ffs. This 3 teams from most groups going through removes the do or die nature of the competition

Imagine the excitement if only one team went through (plus the two highest 2nd placed teams). Two big hitters from France’s Group could go out early instead of all 3 going through.

Probably be left a number of dead rubber matches in the final round of group games if that was the format.

There’s always dead rubbers. Belgium Italy and Netherlands could take it easy last game as they’re already through (Italy did that in 2016 v Ireland). Plus you might get another 1982 Germany Austria situation playing out a 0-0 as they’re both through. There’s always anomalies no matter the format.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 19, 2021, 09:30:18 PM
Quarter finals worked previously when it was a 16 team tournament.  They wanted to expand it probably for financial reasons, and to give smaller nations a chance of qualifying .

As bad as Ireland are they know finishing 3rd in next Euro qualifying guarantees a play-off
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2021, 09:34:04 PM
They should get rid of the Round of 16, and go straight to QFs. There is 36 matches played to eliminate only 8 teams ffs. This 3 teams from most groups going through removes the do or die nature of the competition

Imagine the excitement if only one team went through (plus the two highest 2nd placed teams). Two big hitters from France’s Group could go out early instead of all 3 going through.

Probably be left a number of dead rubber matches in the final round of group games if that was the format.

There’s always dead rubbers. Belgium Italy and Netherlands could take it easy last game as they’re already through (Italy did that in 2016 v Ireland). Plus you might get another 1982 Germany Austria situation playing out a 0-0 as they’re both through. There’s always anomalies no matter the format.

A few is better than a lot of dead rubbers.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 19, 2021, 09:43:18 PM
England V Spain might happen after all in next round
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2021, 09:55:34 PM
Spain back to their usual position of also rans.

They won’t go too far.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 19, 2021, 10:01:10 PM
Scotland have shown us, just like every international competition in past 55 years, that England allegedly having the players primed to win a big one,  is 100% based on brit media hype
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 19, 2021, 10:13:13 PM
Scotland have shown us, just like every international competition in past 55 years, that England allegedly having the players primed to win a big one,  is 100% based on brit media hype
They’ve an awful lot of seriously good footballers but never gel. Usual story and you absolutely love to see it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2021, 10:14:31 PM
Central midfield is not good. That and Kane playing shite. Their players aren’t as good as the top european teams.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 19, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
A lot of hype about Sancho and he hasn't featured in the tournament. That's probaly more down to Southgate and being consersative.

Hopefully Scotland can beat Croatia but they lack firepower. A combined Wales and Scotland team would be good, Wales have the forward threat the scots lack
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 20, 2021, 10:05:49 AM
Spain are crap. Germany won the WC in 2014 and were crap in 2018. That's  sport.

Ní uasal agus íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal.

Dublin didn't fade like Spain and Germany did or France will
 That's not sport
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 20, 2021, 10:31:41 AM
A lot of hype about Sancho and he hasn't featured in the tournament. That's probaly more down to Southgate and being consersative.

Hopefully Scotland can beat Croatia but they lack firepower. A combined Wales and Scotland team would be good, Wales have the forward threat the scots lack
Is sancho all that? If utd get him he may just be another martial
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 20, 2021, 10:59:42 AM
A lot of hype about Sancho and he hasn't featured in the tournament. That's probaly more down to Southgate and being consersative.

Hopefully Scotland can beat Croatia but they lack firepower. A combined Wales and Scotland team would be good, Wales have the forward threat the scots lack
Is sancho all that? If utd get him he may just be another martial

F**k that. One is enough.

Talk of Martial  going to Madrid though. They must be really hard up. I hope it’s true though.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: tintin25 on June 20, 2021, 11:24:39 AM
Why are Utd even bidding £70m odd for Sancho when he’s in the last year of his contract...madness.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 20, 2021, 11:58:55 AM
Why are Utd even bidding £70m odd for Sancho when he’s in the last year of his contract...madness.

He's not..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 20, 2021, 12:25:27 PM
Spain are crap. Germany won the WC in 2014 and were crap in 2018. That's  sport.

Ní uasal agus íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal.

Dublin didn't fade like Spain and Germany did or France will
 That's not sport

In fairness (Ní uasal agus íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal) does not apply to Germany, they are always at the Business end of every major Competition. They have tournament mentality and they have always a togetherness and pride. Most of all they never lose the run of their selves.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: tintin25 on June 20, 2021, 12:42:05 PM
Why are Utd even bidding £70m odd for Sancho when he’s in the last year of his contract...madness.

He's not..

I stand corrected.  2023?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 20, 2021, 03:09:52 PM
Why are Utd even bidding £70m odd for Sancho when he’s in the last year of his contract...madness.

He's not..

I stand corrected.  2023?

Yeah June 2023 https://www.transfermarkt.com/jadon-sancho/profil/spieler/401173

United would still be getting him cheaper then last summer when it was over 100m,which was a ridiculous figure.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 20, 2021, 03:55:20 PM
A lot of hype about Sancho and he hasn't featured in the tournament. That's probaly more down to Southgate and being consersative.

Hopefully Scotland can beat Croatia but they lack firepower. A combined Wales and Scotland team would be good, Wales have the forward threat the scots lack
Is sancho all that? If utd get him he may just be another martial
Depends on which Martial you are talking about. The fella that had 16 goals involvements last season or two seasons ago when he had 35 goal involvements.

Back to the topic of the thread Italy look the best team thus far and looking at the draw they should be reaching the semi finals at least.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Kidder81 on June 20, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
A lot of hype about Sancho and he hasn't featured in the tournament. That's probaly more down to Southgate and being consersative.

Hopefully Scotland can beat Croatia but they lack firepower. A combined Wales and Scotland team would be good, Wales have the forward threat the scots lack
Is sancho all that? If utd get him he may just be another martial
Depends on which Martial you are talking about. The fella that had 16 goals involvements last season or two seasons ago when he had 35 goal involvements.

Back to the topic of the thread Italy look the best team thus far and looking at the draw they should be reaching the semi finals at least.

“Goal involvements”  :o Jesus
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 20, 2021, 04:04:40 PM
A lot of hype about Sancho and he hasn't featured in the tournament. That's probaly more down to Southgate and being consersative.

Hopefully Scotland can beat Croatia but they lack firepower. A combined Wales and Scotland team would be good, Wales have the forward threat the scots lack
Is sancho all that? If utd get him he may just be another martial
Depends on which Martial you are talking about. The fella that had 16 goals involvements last season or two seasons ago when he had 35 goal involvements.

Back to the topic of the thread Italy look the best team thus far and looking at the draw they should be reaching the semi finals at least.

“Goal involvements”  :o Jesus
Yes goals or assists. Very important feature of the game for any attacking player. Gabriel Jesus had 18 last season.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 20, 2021, 05:53:41 PM
Italy with 8 changes still very much in control. Veratti back in the team showing his quality.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: StPatsAbu on June 20, 2021, 06:16:07 PM
Wales down to 10 men. We'll see what the red wall is made of in the next 35 mins!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 20, 2021, 06:28:45 PM
Two cracking goals from Shaqiri
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 20, 2021, 06:31:01 PM
Italy with 8 changes still very much in control. Veratti back in the team showing his quality.

Cruise control for a 2nd string Italy side.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 21, 2021, 06:12:53 PM
Depay has improved since he left United. He's been really good in the tournament. On the way to Barcelona also, the Dutch connection with Koeman would have helped.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 21, 2021, 06:17:58 PM
Mount and Chilwell out now too. Self isolating after hugging Billy Gilmour at full time.
Maybe this will put a stop to the hugging, hi-5ing, handshakes footballers have been doing.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 21, 2021, 08:17:49 PM
Mount and Chilwell out now too. Self isolating after hugging Billy Gilmour at full time.
Maybe this will put a stop to the hugging, hi-5ing, handshakes footballers have been doing.

Surely most of the Scotland and England players were a close contact of Gilmour during the 90 minutes on the pitch?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 21, 2021, 08:39:23 PM
Fine goal by Denmark there. The stadium has come alive.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Armagh18 on June 21, 2021, 09:26:52 PM
Mount and Chilwell out now too. Self isolating after hugging Billy Gilmour at full time.
Maybe this will put a stop to the hugging, hi-5ing, handshakes footballers have been doing.
Joke. Why are fit and healthy young men getting covid tests ffs.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 21, 2021, 09:30:14 PM
Mount and Chilwell out now too. Self isolating after hugging Billy Gilmour at full time.
Maybe this will put a stop to the hugging, hi-5ing, handshakes footballers have been doing.
Joke. Why are fit and healthy young men getting covid tests ffs.

Ehh maybe so they don't spread it?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 21, 2021, 09:39:40 PM
Good night for the Danes, will finish 2nd in this group now.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: RedHand88 on June 21, 2021, 09:43:07 PM
Good night for the Danes, will finish 2nd in this group now.

Denmark v Wales on Saturday evening. Tasty.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 21, 2021, 09:46:42 PM
Amazing how Denmark can beat Russia with Russia being such a bigger landmass and all that 😂
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Kidder81 on June 21, 2021, 09:58:28 PM
Rip Ferdinand reckons what happened to Eriksen “took the world by storm”  :-\
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 21, 2021, 09:59:04 PM
A good night of football. The Danes are flying at the moment I fancy them to beat Wales if they can repeat tonights form. CHRISTIANSNENS goal was like hotshot Hamish.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 21, 2021, 10:03:21 PM
Rip Ferdinand reckons what happened to Eriksen “took the world by storm”  :-\

When did ferdinand die?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 21, 2021, 10:16:24 PM
Amazing how Denmark can beat Russia with Russia being such a bigger landmass and all that 😂

The Soviet Union played in the First Euros final..
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: highorlow on June 21, 2021, 10:41:21 PM
Are the Danes all fully vaccinated? Looked like a full stadium there tonight.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2021, 11:05:41 PM
Are the Danes all fully vaccinated? Looked like a full stadium there tonight.

Would be tested or vaccinated. Looked full but apparently 25,000 of the 38,000 capacity was in attendance.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: sid waddell on June 21, 2021, 11:20:14 PM
Amazing how Denmark can beat Russia with Russia being such a bigger landmass and all that 😂
Russia has 144 million people

Pound for pound they're easily the most under achieving football nation

Ukraine carried them when it was the USSR
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2021, 08:04:24 AM
Amazing how Denmark can beat Russia with Russia being such a bigger landmass and all that 😂
Russia has 144 million people

Pound for pound they're easily the most under achieving football nation

Ukraine carried them when it was the USSR
China, India and Indonesia are also crap.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: nrico2006 on June 22, 2021, 09:27:41 AM
Mount and Chilwell out now too. Self isolating after hugging Billy Gilmour at full time.
Maybe this will put a stop to the hugging, hi-5ing, handshakes footballers have been doing.

Surely most of the Scotland and England players were a close contact of Gilmour during the 90 minutes on the pitch?

This doesnt make sense, surely his team mates are around him more than Mount and Chilwell were, plus in the 90 minutes he was on the pitch I'm sure he was in close contact with a lot of English players. 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 22, 2021, 09:43:16 AM
Mount and Chilwell out now too. Self isolating after hugging Billy Gilmour at full time.
Maybe this will put a stop to the hugging, hi-5ing, handshakes footballers have been doing.

Surely most of the Scotland and England players were a close contact of Gilmour during the 90 minutes on the pitch?

This doesnt make sense, surely his team mates are around him more than Mount and Chilwell were, plus in the 90 minutes he was on the pitch I'm sure he was in close contact with a lot of English players.

A bit like the Clare hurlers pinged for "marking" a Wexford lad who tested positive but not one Wexford player getting pinged.

WRT Gilmore and the two Chelsea lads, it seems their conversations continued down the tunnel and that moved from occasional contact on the field to close contact, but still, the lad shared a changing room, bus and hotel with all the other Scots yet they're all ok.

It doesn't add up.

Bet Southgate was hoping Kane was pinged and that would have given the spineless wonder a reason to drop him.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 22, 2021, 10:20:11 AM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: sid waddell on June 22, 2021, 10:36:03 AM
Amazing how Denmark can beat Russia with Russia being such a bigger landmass and all that 😂
Russia has 144 million people

Pound for pound they're easily the most under achieving football nation

Ukraine carried them when it was the USSR
China, India and Indonesia are also crap.
They aren't traditional football nations

Russia is supposed to be one
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 22, 2021, 11:58:01 AM
Not sure if Scotland will get the win they need, but I think they’ll get a draw. So Scotland and Croatia will go out.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
Not sure if Scotland will get the win they need, but I think they’ll get a draw. So Scotland and Croatia will go out.

Scotland can't score for whatever reasons, Croatia ain't that bad but struggling to score also but they are 11/8, Scotland are the worst in that group.

England are the team I'd say will draw tonight, or for as long as they are playing Kane, he's only playing shit cause I backed him to be top scorer lol
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2021, 01:12:39 PM
I think Croatia will maybe beat them. They can't score because their striker is pretty poor.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: lurganblue on June 22, 2021, 01:21:06 PM
I think Croatia will maybe beat them. They can't score because their striker is pretty poor.

Croatia, like Scotland are lacking up front.  Croatia strong in midfield though so loss of Gilmour will be felt by Scotland.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2021, 01:26:00 PM
Yeah that seems to be being downplayed. Scotland strong at back and he helped. I am not convinced they'll get something out of this. I hope they do but can't see it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 22, 2021, 01:48:10 PM
Scotland haven't really had a good striker since Ally McCoist.
Che Adams declared for Scotland before the tournament and is useful but but not much else. The other striker  Lyndon Dykes of QPR is very average
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2021, 02:00:52 PM
Big Dunc lol. Yeah Dykes very average. They're about Ireland's level up front but defense a good bit stronger.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 22, 2021, 02:12:19 PM
Yeah, and better quality in midfield with McGinn , McTominay

Duncan Fergusn was very good with Everton and Newcastle but just 7 Scottish caps. Might have been a following out with the national team
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 22, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
Scotland haven't really had a good striker since Ally McCoist.

That’s shocking...Kenny Miller is the only one that’s jumping out to me but he was hardly a world beater either. Did Celtic or Rangers not have a half decent Scottish striker in the last 25 years?!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 02:45:09 PM
Scotland haven't really had a good striker since Ally McCoist.

That’s shocking...Kenny Miller is the only one that’s jumping out to me but he was hardly a world beater either. Did Celtic or Rangers not have a half decent Scottish striker in the last 25 years?!

Mo scored 14 in 38 games while Ally scored 19 in 61.. They didn't (in comparison to other nations strikers) play too many internationals
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: shark on June 22, 2021, 02:49:17 PM
Scotland haven't really had a good striker since Ally McCoist.

That’s shocking...Kenny Miller is the only one that’s jumping out to me but he was hardly a world beater either. Did Celtic or Rangers not have a half decent Scottish striker in the last 25 years?!

James McFadden probably the most successful for Scotland. But that's just relative to a pretty poor selection
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: johnnycool on June 22, 2021, 02:55:23 PM
Yeah, and better quality in midfield with McGinn , McTominay

Duncan Fergusn was very good with Everton and Newcastle but just 7 Scottish caps. Might have been a following out with the national team

Duncan probably not keen on the Scottish FA when they pushed hard for the headbutting incident that landed him a spell in Barlinnie.

Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 22, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
Scotland haven't really had a good striker since Ally McCoist.

That’s shocking...Kenny Miller is the only one that’s jumping out to me but he was hardly a world beater either. Did Celtic or Rangers not have a half decent Scottish striker in the last 25 years?!

Mo scored 14 in 38 games while Ally scored 19 in 61.. They didn't (in comparison to other nations strikers) play too many internationals

Players didn’t generally play as many internationals up until the 90’s.. Since then, 10 former Soviet states got independence, 7 former Yugoslav states the same, plus Faroes, Liechtenstein, San Marino etc joined. There are 53 teams in UEFA. That’s nearly double to what is was . There are far more games in qualifying now, and major tournaments expanded.

I remember when Packie hit the 80 cap record for Ireland, and it was like wow, 80 caps! Robbie Keane ended up with nearly double that, and he wasnt a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 22, 2021, 03:00:46 PM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.

Everyone seems to disimprove when they join United. Then improve again when they leave. I reckon if Martial was to leave this summer, he'd improve greatly too. Someone else mentioned Depay earlier...
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: tintin25 on June 22, 2021, 03:37:30 PM
Squad wise it's definitely the strongest Scotland have been in years.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 03:48:58 PM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.

Everyone seems to disimprove when they join United. Then improve again when they leave. I reckon if Martial was to leave this summer, he'd improve greatly too. Someone else mentioned Depay earlier...

Wijnaldum could also prove this, if his current form continues he'll do well next year
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 22, 2021, 04:06:19 PM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.

Everyone seems to disimprove when they join United. Then improve again when they leave. I reckon if Martial was to leave this summer, he'd improve greatly too. Someone else mentioned Depay earlier...

Wijnaldum could also prove this, if his current form continues he'll do well next year


He’s been one of the most consistent midfielders in Europe over the last 4 odd years...bar maybe city he would walk onto any PL team, so hardly rocket science to conclude he will do well next year...exactly the type of player PSG need
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 05:39:24 PM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.

Everyone seems to disimprove when they join United. Then improve again when they leave. I reckon if Martial was to leave this summer, he'd improve greatly too. Someone else mentioned Depay earlier...

Wijnaldum could also prove this, if his current form continues he'll do well next year


He’s been one of the most consistent midfielders in Europe over the last 4 odd years...bar maybe city he would walk onto any PL team, so hardly rocket science to conclude he will do well next year...exactly the type of player PSG need

Did he ask to leave?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: J70 on June 22, 2021, 05:46:51 PM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.

Everyone seems to disimprove when they join United. Then improve again when they leave. I reckon if Martial was to leave this summer, he'd improve greatly too. Someone else mentioned Depay earlier...

Wijnaldum could also prove this, if his current form continues he'll do well next year


He’s been one of the most consistent midfielders in Europe over the last 4 odd years...bar maybe city he would walk onto any PL team, so hardly rocket science to conclude he will do well next year...exactly the type of player PSG need

Did he ask to leave?

He wanted to stay, but FSG wouldn't give him the lengthy contract he was looking for due to his age.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 22, 2021, 05:47:28 PM
Yeah, and better quality in midfield with McGinn , McTominay

Duncan Fergusn was very good with Everton and Newcastle but just 7 Scottish caps. Might have been a following out with the national team

Duncan probably not keen on the Scottish FA when they pushed hard for the headbutting incident that landed him a spell in Barlinnie.

No he wasn’t very good for Everton and Newcastle. He scored 84 goals in 314 games. That’s 1 in 4 which is dung for an out and out no 9.  He has a cult notion about him but all he was good at was getting his head on crosses and throwing elbows. That is reflective of his time at Rangers too. Huge misconception that he was actually any good
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2021, 06:04:07 PM
A bit of thuggery up front didn't do Cross any harm.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2021, 06:18:17 PM
"Header down to Baloney.........ohhhhhhhhhh what a hit son, WHAT A HITTTT"

😂😂

*buys popcorn*
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: rodney trotter on June 22, 2021, 06:30:58 PM
Yeah, and better quality in midfield with McGinn , McTominay

Duncan Fergusn was very good with Everton and Newcastle but just 7 Scottish caps. Might have been a following out with the national team

Duncan probably not keen on the Scottish FA when they pushed hard for the headbutting incident that landed him a spell in Barlinnie.

No he wasn’t very good for Everton and Newcastle. He scored 84 goals in 314 games. That’s 1 in 4 which is dung for an out and out no 9.  He has a cult notion about him but all he was good at was getting his head on crosses and throwing elbows. That is reflective of his time at Rangers too. Huge misconception that he was actually any good

Yeah but how many goals did he create from knock ons. Niall Quinn at Sunderland created a lot for Kevin Phillips, and Robbie Keane with Ireland.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 22, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
Yeah, and better quality in midfield with McGinn , McTominay

Duncan Fergusn was very good with Everton and Newcastle but just 7 Scottish caps. Might have been a following out with the national team

Duncan probably not keen on the Scottish FA when they pushed hard for the headbutting incident that landed him a spell in Barlinnie.

No he wasn’t very good for Everton and Newcastle. He scored 84 goals in 314 games. That’s 1 in 4 which is dung for an out and out no 9.  He has a cult notion about him but all he was good at was getting his head on crosses and throwing elbows. That is reflective of his time at Rangers too. Huge misconception that he was actually any good

Yeah but how many goals did he create from knock ons. Niall Quinn at Sunderland created a lot for Kevin Phillips, and Robbie Keane with Ireland.

A bit like Kieran Donaghy at Kerry, wasn't the biggest scorer though was focal point of the Kingdoms attack.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2021, 07:32:32 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 22, 2021, 07:32:44 PM
A bit of thuggery up front didn't do Cross any harm.

I wondered who’d bite  ;D

Yeah, and better quality in midfield with McGinn , McTominay

Duncan Fergusn was very good with Everton and Newcastle but just 7 Scottish caps. Might have been a following out with the national team

Duncan probably not keen on the Scottish FA when they pushed hard for the headbutting incident that landed him a spell in Barlinnie.

No he wasn’t very good for Everton and Newcastle. He scored 84 goals in 314 games. That’s 1 in 4 which is dung for an out and out no 9.  He has a cult notion about him but all he was good at was getting his head on crosses and throwing elbows. That is reflective of his time at Rangers too. Huge misconception that he was actually any good

Yeah but how many goals did he create from knock ons. Niall Quinn at Sunderland created a lot for Kevin Phillips, and Robbie Keane with Ireland.


Not a full record but in the Premier league he had 68 goals and 24 assists in 269. His teams won nothing and he won no personal accolades. He was a big donkey and believe me I know big awkward donkeys when I see them!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Capt Pat on June 22, 2021, 07:40:01 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?

The rte player has it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2021, 07:40:38 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?

The rte player has it.
Yeah just seen that. Not HD though 🙄
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2021, 07:59:09 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?

The rte player has it.
Yeah just seen that. Not HD though 🙄
ITV4 if youse have British TV.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2021, 08:02:54 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?

The rte player has it.
Yeah just seen that. Not HD though 🙄
ITV4 if youse have British TV.
I don’t.
Actually just realised I have it on my IPTV service.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2021, 08:06:49 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?

The rte player has it.
It's also on RTE news now channel 521.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2021, 08:12:10 PM
RTÉ showing the England match FFS, where can I watch the Scotland match?

The rte player has it.
It's also on RTE news now channel 521.
In crap SD.  Have it now anyway in perfect HD on my IPTV.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2021, 08:40:24 PM
Scotland look like they’ll be well beat here. There’s not two goals in them.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 22, 2021, 08:42:22 PM
Scotland look like they’ll be well beat here. There’s not two goals in them.

You were saying!  :D
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2021, 08:42:56 PM
I hope I m wrong lol.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Lovely finish.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2021, 08:44:39 PM
Hon the jocks.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2021, 09:20:01 PM
Modric. Quality
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 22, 2021, 09:36:33 PM
Scotlands goose is cooked.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 09:36:48 PM
Scotland are dung
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 22, 2021, 09:38:04 PM
Scotland went from 18 to 1 to win the game to 400 to 1 in the blink of an eye!
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Boycey on June 22, 2021, 09:40:53 PM
Duncan Ferguson has been poor....
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2021, 09:42:07 PM
This is like a cat playin with a mouse before the inevitable
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 09:42:44 PM
Duncan Ferguson has been poor....

Think they are bringing on Lleyton Hewitt
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2021, 09:43:42 PM
Scotland are dung
Croatia got to the 2018 World Cup Final .
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 22, 2021, 09:45:49 PM
Fraser is no world beater but surely he needed to have started in a game they needed to win...not an ounce of creativity in Scotland
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: gawa316 on June 22, 2021, 09:46:16 PM
Duncan Ferguson has been poor....

Busted flush so he is
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2021, 09:47:52 PM
At least Scotland got to the Euros
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 22, 2021, 09:48:53 PM
Scotland are dung
Croatia got to the 2018 World Cup Final .

Croatia are no lightweights. Scotland's achievement was being at these championships.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2021, 09:54:54 PM
Scotland are dung
Croatia got to the 2018 World Cup Final .

Croatia are no lightweights. Scotland's achievement was being at these championships.
First time in 11 attempts between Euros and World Cup.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: JBM on the 21 on June 22, 2021, 09:58:21 PM
Can someone explain why Billy Gilmour was not vaccinated? You would think that all these players, due to the importance of the tournament, would qualify for one.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
Scotland are dung
Croatia got to the 2018 World Cup Final .

Croatia are no lightweights. Scotland's achievement was being at these championships.

The betting on this was completely all wrong, Croatia were 11/8, now in fairness to them, they ain’t the team that played that final 3 years ago, but England bate them handy and the Czech should have bate them also, but you’d have still had them odds on against the 3rd lowest ranked team in tournament.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: From the Bunker on June 22, 2021, 10:27:56 PM
Not much of Europe not involved in Championships?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: BennyCake on June 22, 2021, 10:36:32 PM
I’d be fairly confident France would dump out England in the 2nd round. Unfortunately I can see them beating Portugal and finishing top of E.

Wouldn’t have much faith in Portugal tbh to beat England at Wembley.

I’d imagine Germany will beat Hungary and claim second in E. Would be 50/50 v England

But, whoever it is, dump the f**kers out so we can all enjoy the rest of the tournament knowing them hoors are not in it.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 22, 2021, 10:46:56 PM
It looks set up for England to get knocked out on penalties after a 0-0 draw.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: highorlow on June 23, 2021, 06:01:23 AM
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Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: nrico2006 on June 23, 2021, 07:32:51 AM
Such an improvement there has been in big Lukaku.  I don't watch the Italian football really so I was so surprised to see how good his touch and holdup play has become.

Everyone seems to disimprove when they join United. Then improve again when they leave. I reckon if Martial was to leave this summer, he'd improve greatly too. Someone else mentioned Depay earlier...

Lukaku went to Italy where the standard is lower.  Depay went to France where the standard is lower again.  Both haven't proved themselves to be top drawer yet, especially Depay who I reckon will be average at Barcelona.
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: TabClear on June 23, 2021, 07:57:24 AM
Can someone explain why Billy Gilmour was not vaccinated? You would think that all these players, due to the importance of the tournament, would qualify for one.

He probably was. The vaccine reduces the likelihood of contracting Covid but does not eliminate it. It also reduces the chances of getting ill. I think Gilmour was asymptomatic and was only picked up through the mandatory tests. 
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: Taylor on June 23, 2021, 08:40:02 AM
Can someone explain why Billy Gilmour was not vaccinated? You would think that all these players, due to the importance of the tournament, would qualify for one.

He probably was. The vaccine reduces the likelihood of contracting Covid but does not eliminate it. It also reduces the chances of getting ill. I think Gilmour was asymptomatic and was only picked up through the mandatory tests.

I thought the players were in bubbles.

If they were how did wee Billy catch it?
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: tiempo on June 23, 2021, 08:49:19 AM
After the Croatia game all round fitba genius/guru GNev told the world Southgate is Englands biggest asset, glorious watching him having to try and stand by that claim as they grind their way to a standstill, absolutely putrid stuff the last 2 games
Title: Re: Euro 20/21
Post by: yellowcard on June 23, 2021, 08:56:53 AM
After the Croatia game all round fitba genius/guru GNev told the world Southgate is Englands biggest asset, glorious watching him having to try and stand by that claim as they grind their way to a standstill, absolutely putrid stuff the last 2 games

England are very dull to watch. Southgate's plan seems to be to sit deep, shore up the defence with 2 holding midfielders and hope that he can win the game with a set piece or some little bit of individual brilliance from one of the attacking players. He reminds me a bit of Solskjaer in big games where the fear of losing takes over. Which is fine if you have ordinary players but their actual strength is their attacking players of which they have some of the best in Europe but Southgate is holding them back. He seems like a nice enough lad but he wouldn't come near to being considered for any of the top jobs in club football. Neville is talking nonsense if he thinks that Southgate is their biggest asset, thats just another old pals act.