Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 30, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:22:50 PM
the murder of a Garda officer has yet again shown why its time for Gerry to step down as party leader. even this tragic loss of life has been turned into a stick to beat sinn fein with. no matter how firm gerrys footing when attacks this pathetic government and their corruption it turns into farce as 'fianna gael' hark back to gerrys role in the conflict. no matter what the kenny klan do gerry is simply unable to highlight their uselessness. adams needs to stand down now. hes done a great job so far but sinn fein need a new face. with lads like peadar tobin and pierse doherty leading, sinn fein will attract more votes and kenny wont be able to hide from them.

Martin Ferris?
he can go fishing with ger. his daughter was doing quite well havent heard alot about her lately but being a family member isn't a prerequisite for taking over in sinn fein

Is paramilitary service a prerequisite? Jobs for the Bhoys  ;)
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Maguire01

Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 30, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:22:50 PM
the murder of a Garda officer has yet again shown why its time for Gerry to step down as party leader. even this tragic loss of life has been turned into a stick to beat sinn fein with. no matter how firm gerrys footing when attacks this pathetic government and their corruption it turns into farce as 'fianna gael' hark back to gerrys role in the conflict. no matter what the kenny klan do gerry is simply unable to highlight their uselessness. adams needs to stand down now. hes done a great job so far but sinn fein need a new face. with lads like peadar tobin and pierse doherty leading, sinn fein will attract more votes and kenny wont be able to hide from them.

Martin Ferris?
he can go fishing with ger. his daughter was doing quite well havent heard alot about her lately but being a family member isn't a prerequisite for taking over in sinn fein
Is that the same daughter who refused to condemn the murder of Garda McCabe on the Late Late Show?

Applesisapples

Martin McGuiness and Gerry Kelly are accepted despite their past because they just front up and say yes I did that, it was a different time and things have changed, Adams continues to peddle the myth that he was never in the IRA hence he undermines his own credibility. As Peter Robinson has said of McGuinness just because he had a past doesn't mean he can't have a future.

Rossfan

And the same could be said of Robinson .... until the last two months and his reverting to type over the Belfast Council decision on the British Flag .
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We're going to bring home the SAM

muppet

Quote from: Applesisapples on January 31, 2013, 02:20:41 PM
Martin McGuiness and Gerry Kelly are accepted despite their past because they just front up and say yes I did that, it was a different time and things have changed, Adams continues to peddle the myth that he was never in the IRA hence he undermines his own credibility. As Peter Robinson has said of McGuinness just because he had a past doesn't mean he can't have a future.

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lawnseed

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 30, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:22:50 PM
the murder of a Garda officer has yet again shown why its time for Gerry to step down as party leader. even this tragic loss of life has been turned into a stick to beat sinn fein with. no matter how firm gerrys footing when attacks this pathetic government and their corruption it turns into farce as 'fianna gael' hark back to gerrys role in the conflict. no matter what the kenny klan do gerry is simply unable to highlight their uselessness. adams needs to stand down now. hes done a great job so far but sinn fein need a new face. with lads like peadar tobin and pierse doherty leading, sinn fein will attract more votes and kenny wont be able to hide from them.

Martin Ferris?
he can go fishing with ger. his daughter was doing quite well havent heard alot about her lately but being a family member isn't a prerequisite for taking over in sinn fein
Is that the same daughter who refused to condemn the murder of Garda McCabe on the Late Late Show?
what difference would it have made, shes not a leading shinner her condemnation wouldnt mean much either way.
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

Maguire01

Quote from: lawnseed on January 31, 2013, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 30, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:22:50 PM
the murder of a Garda officer has yet again shown why its time for Gerry to step down as party leader. even this tragic loss of life has been turned into a stick to beat sinn fein with. no matter how firm gerrys footing when attacks this pathetic government and their corruption it turns into farce as 'fianna gael' hark back to gerrys role in the conflict. no matter what the kenny klan do gerry is simply unable to highlight their uselessness. adams needs to stand down now. hes done a great job so far but sinn fein need a new face. with lads like peadar tobin and pierse doherty leading, sinn fein will attract more votes and kenny wont be able to hide from them.

Martin Ferris?
he can go fishing with ger. his daughter was doing quite well havent heard alot about her lately but being a family member isn't a prerequisite for taking over in sinn fein
Is that the same daughter who refused to condemn the murder of Garda McCabe on the Late Late Show?
what difference would it have made, shes not a leading shinner her condemnation wouldnt mean much either way.
Her condemnation might not have been significant, but her refusal to do so spoke volumes.

lawnseed

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 31, 2013, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 30, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:22:50 PM
the murder of a Garda officer has yet again shown why its time for Gerry to step down as party leader. even this tragic loss of life has been turned into a stick to beat sinn fein with. no matter how firm gerrys footing when attacks this pathetic government and their corruption it turns into farce as 'fianna gael' hark back to gerrys role in the conflict. no matter what the kenny klan do gerry is simply unable to highlight their uselessness. adams needs to stand down now. hes done a great job so far but sinn fein need a new face. with lads like peadar tobin and pierse doherty leading, sinn fein will attract more votes and kenny wont be able to hide from them.

Martin Ferris?
he can go fishing with ger. his daughter was doing quite well havent heard alot about her lately but being a family member isn't a prerequisite for taking over in sinn fein
Is that the same daughter who refused to condemn the murder of Garda McCabe on the Late Late Show?
what difference would it have made, shes not a leading shinner her condemnation wouldnt mean much either way.
Her condemnation might not have been significant, but her refusal to do so spoke volumes.
i conmdem it for her since shes not here.  i'm thinking peadar tobin as leader in the dail with peirse as deputy
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

Rossfan

Isn't Peadar the chap who ye'll have to expel for not supporting ye're "trendy leftie smoked salmon socialist " position on Abortion?  ;D
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

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Quote from: lawnseed on January 31, 2013, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 31, 2013, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2013, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 30, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 30, 2013, 11:22:50 PM
the murder of a Garda officer has yet again shown why its time for Gerry to step down as party leader. even this tragic loss of life has been turned into a stick to beat sinn fein with. no matter how firm gerrys footing when attacks this pathetic government and their corruption it turns into farce as 'fianna gael' hark back to gerrys role in the conflict. no matter what the kenny klan do gerry is simply unable to highlight their uselessness. adams needs to stand down now. hes done a great job so far but sinn fein need a new face. with lads like peadar tobin and pierse doherty leading, sinn fein will attract more votes and kenny wont be able to hide from them.

Martin Ferris?
he can go fishing with ger. his daughter was doing quite well havent heard alot about her lately but being a family member isn't a prerequisite for taking over in sinn fein
Is that the same daughter who refused to condemn the murder of Garda McCabe on the Late Late Show?
what difference would it have made, shes not a leading shinner her condemnation wouldnt mean much either way.
Her condemnation might not have been significant, but her refusal to do so spoke volumes.
i conmdem it for her since shes not here.  i'm thinking peadar tobin as leader in the dail with peirse as deputy

A Tobin is always handy if you want to spin some unbelievable stories.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Farrandeelin

I wonder will Enda Kenny be in Castlebar on the weekend of the Sinn féin ard-fheis. He won't have any family in the Gaeltacht that weekend! :P
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anglocelt39

First things first I'd run a mile to distance myself from both extremes on this thread. The Shinner bashers often come across as an uninformed version of the worst excesses of the Sunday Independent Duckworth school of, ahem, journalism. Having got that off my chest in an," I'm not racist but" type of preface, I do have to ask the question as to whether I was the only one to feel faintly nauseous at the sight on last nights news of Mary Lou condemning the closure of rural garda stations across the country, lovely timing girl.
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All of a Sludden

SINN Fein's Mary Lou McDonald has been dragged into defending the IRA's killing of police officers north of the Border.

The party's deputy leader said there was a "clear distinction" between the IRA killing gardai and killing RUC officers during the Troubles.

Ms McDonald's hardline stance is significant because it could damage her reputation as the fresh face of Sinn Fein, with no historical baggage of association with the IRA.

The Dublin Central TD is also resorting to the role of an IRA apologist.

Gerry Adams's belated apology to the families of Detective Garda Jerry McCabe and other members of An Garda Siochana and Army killed by the IRA has prompted calls to extend his apology to RUC victims.

But Sinn Fein has said that killing RUC officers was "vastly different" to killing gardai. According to Ms McDonald, there is a "clear distinction".

Sinn Fein general secretary Mitchell McLaughlin rejected the calls in Northern Ireland for an apology to the families of RUC members and his position has now been backed up by Ms McDonald.

"In terms of a distinction between An Garda Siochana and the RUC – as it was – he is correct. He (Mr McLaughlin) is absolutely correct in saying that," she said.

Hardline

However, Fianna Fail has said that Sinn Fein's "hard neck is breathtaking". The party's justice spokesman Niall Collins said it was not acceptable for a political party to be taking such a stance.

He said it was despicable to see Mr Adams engage in "a brazen act of hypocrisy" in trying to "cleanse his political pedigree" by apologising for the killing of Det Garda McCabe.

"He was hijacking the expressions of sympathy for Adrian Donohoe," said Mr Collins.

Ms McDonald said she believed that every life lost in what she described as "the conflict" was a tragedy both for those who died and for their families.

She said: "I think what Mitchell (McLaughlin) is identifying is the clear distinction between the RUC, the British Army, the loyalist paramilitaries, the IRA – all of whom were combatants in a conflict up in the North over decades and decades – and then An Garda Siochana, who clearly were not. I think that's a crucial distinction.

"It's a point, I know that Gerry (Adams) and others have made in the past and I think it holds true."

Ms McDonald explained that she wasn't saying there would never be such an apology, but that this would have to be part of a wider "process of healing" with apologies on all sides.

She added: "Bear in mind nationalists were also killed – the RUC, the British State forces, the loyalist paramilitaries also inflicted harm.

"We need to find a way that we get to the point where a full apology on all sides is made and a genuine apology.

"But for that to actually happen, we need to have vast, wide-ranging conversations and a process to mediate all this."


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/video-murdering-gardai-is-different-from-killing-ruc-officers-says-mary-lou-3371975.html
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Ulick

In fairness to  Mary Lou, I don't ever recall Gardaí smashing down the front door through, spitting on my mother, smashing her wedding gifts and heirlooms, pulling da down the stairs by the hair in his underwear, assaulting and interning family members nor shooting dead my school-friends. I suppose we must thank the Sino/Indo for pointing out that we have more in common than we know and our southern brothers faced a similar brutal police state on a daily basis.

Olly

Did anyone watch the programme on Bernadette McAliskey tonight? She says she doesn't like Stormont. There's a midget doing press-ups on RTE now.
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