Cavan vs. Armagh, Sun. May 19, Breffni Park, Ulster c'ship prelim

[tintin25]

Greatly surprised? It's hardly a David versus Goliath clash!

[T Fearon]

Can't see Fermanagh winning this,Cavan have momentum and confidence.No one would give Fermanagh a chance if they were playing Armagh

[imtommygunn]

Fermanagh have been ultra defensive in the league. This game a different kettle of fish. Fermanagh were useful in the league and i think they may shade it.

Some great hard to call ties in ulster this year. Apart from antrim monaghan all the rest very tough to call.

[yellowcard]

For Armagh its back to the drawing board and we need to decide whether to abandon this suicide football. I'd say a lot of home truths will come out of the meeting tonight and I hope that we can salvage at least one championship win from the season. 

On the game itself I think you could see cavan visibly growing in belief as the game wore on. They have a young enough side not to have too many mental scars from previous failed campaigns. Anytime I have seen Keating he has looked very impressive and will be a handful for anyone in Ulster. Whilst Dunne appears to be a great finisher I think the Fermanagh game will be a greater test of his mettle, not sure if he has the same ball winning capabilities in a tight game that Keating has. Imo the Cavan v Fermanagh game is 50/50 but Cavan's greater scoring power in their inside line might just sway it their way. 

[muppet]

Do Cavan get any credit in this postmortem? Dunne kicked some fine points and 8 from play, no matter how naive Armagh were is a superb tally, especially on his champ debut. Maybe ye are just not as good as you think ye are, I think we would have won even if you had a sweeper as I am sure Hyland had planned for that anyway. Good luck in the back door anyway, manys a team was reincarnated in it.

That is what is wrong with TSG - football.

Imagine the hurling pundits if a player made a debut like Dunne did. They would be rightly raving, instead we have a spat between Brolly and the losers.

[tintin25]

Exactly.

Armagh folk need to accept that they are rebuilding at present and that the current crop available aren't anywhere near the level of the sides from 02-08 or so. They were dumped out by Roscommon last year and scraped past Wicklow also I seem to remember a couple of years back in the qualifiers.

[emmetryan]

Apologies for the delay on this, I was on my hols, here's my tactical analysis of Cavan's win over Armagh http://action81.com/blog/?p=7262

[EC Unique]

Can't see Fermanagh winning this,Cavan have momentum and confidence.No one from Armagh would give Fermanagh a chance if they were playing Armagh

Fixed that there. People outside Armagh see them on a similar level.

[rodney trotter]

Armagh folk need to accept that they are rebuilding at present and that the current crop available aren't anywhere near the level of the sides from 02-08 or so.

Jaysus, you're right! Can't believe none of us eejits had twigged this before now. tintin25, you truly have lifted the fog from before our eyes. Sure we're away in the head altogether to be even a little disappointed about losing to the mighty men from Cavan, especially since the current crop available aren't anywhere near the level of the sides from 02-08 or so. From now on I'm going to be content with the fact that we can even field a team at all. I mean, to expect anything more is just ridiculous.

Hope you took the defeat well

[tintin25]

Gobshite? BTW, not trying to lecture anybody. Just giving my 2 cents worth, like anyone else does from time to time on this board. Not arguing with the fact that you appear to be an avid follower of the team, and are in a better position to judge their ability than I am.

[T Fearon]

Interesting points made by Mickey Harte in I News today, where he looks at what would have happened had Jamie's goal stood (as it should have), with loads of time left Cavan possibly crumbling after their best efforts to stifle him fail, and Armagh going on to win the game (points out a couple of glaring misses by Mark Shields the seventh forward), and how PG would then have been lauded for his attacking tactics, the Armagh team for its character to come back, and the Cavan management lambasted for their ineffective negative tactics, and wasting a second man on Jamie etc. Fair points I suppose.

[tommysmith]

Interesting points made by Mickey Harte in I News today, where he looks at what would have happened had Jamie's goal stood (as it should have), with loads of time left Cavan possibly crumbling after their best efforts to stifle him fail, and Armagh going on to win the game (points out a couple of glaring misses by Mark Shields the seventh forward), and how PG would then have been lauded for his attacking tactics, the Armagh team for its character to come back, and the Cavan management lambasted for their ineffective negative tactics, and wasting a second man on Jamie etc. Fair points I suppose.

So play should continue after whistle?

[T Fearon]

The whistle should not have been sounded until the advantage was assessed.