Derry v Kerry AISF Sunday 16th July 4pm

[Derryman forever]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

[twohands!!!]

That was the best footballing display from an Ulster team in manys a year. Ran out of steam & ideas in the last 15 mins. No team will win a major game by only scoring 4 points in the 2nd half. Came with a good game plan but had no plan B when it mattered most. Kerry were poor enough in the first half and were also caught out by Derrys switch of tactics. A game of 2 halves but Kerry had more composure & footballing nous to win the game. Jack o Connor made the right changes on the line also. As I said Derry were good to watch yesterday.

We didn't need a plan B, we just needed to pop up a few easy scores from plan A and the game was over. The chances were there and that was the winning and losing of the game. Easy to write these narratives after the game. Next year we will hear how Derry don't have the legs/squad depth to sustain that game in Croke Park, in reality it's just momentum. McKinless or Toner goal chances go in and the team gets loads of energy coming down the stretch, Ethan Doherty taps that one over the bar to put us 3 points up, McQuillan doesn't give O'Brien a soft free after we have just won a massive turn over. Those things went against us and sucked the energy from the team and give it to Kerry. Fine margins.

I do think Derry's lack of squad depth is going to be a short/medium term issue.
Injuries are an inevitability.
Never understood Gallagher's small squad approach under the current structure - it might have been something that worked in the old days when the league wasn't a factor but with the provincials plus groups plus knock-out stages not having panel depth is a massive handicap to overcome espeically if you are trying to compete against the likes of Dublin and Kerry.

[imtommygunn]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

[Walter Cronc]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

Did the defender not dive to make the block and caught McGrogan on the follow through? By accident?

[tbrick18]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

I couldn't make out the kerry player either but he slid in and took McGrogan down while he was pivoting on one leg having just taken his score.
Really dangerous tackle and if dangerous play warrants a red, then that did.

[imtommygunn]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

Did the defender not dive to make the block and caught McGrogan on the follow through? By accident?

I think he slid more than dived and it was very late and took the standing leg. Maybe reading too much into it as tbh I felt Kerry were pushing the bounds of cynicism but definitely thought on one look it looked ropy enough. Couldn't really see it on replay and even tried to slow it down.

[tbrick18]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

Did the defender not dive to make the block and caught McGrogan on the follow through? By accident?

I think he slid more than dived and it was very late and took the standing leg. Maybe reading too much into it as tbh I felt Kerry were pushing the bounds of cynicism but definitely thought on one look it looked ropy enough. Couldn't really see it on replay and even tried to slow it down.

Can just about see it on Iplayer, about 37 minutes. Looks like foley. Just slid into his standing leg, such a dangerous challenge.

[NotedObserver]

Diving block. Unfortunate

[Derryman forever]

Just Had a look at it there lads,
A diving block as said above.
Totally accidental, but terribly unfortunate for Derry. The referee had no role to play in adjudication that i could see.

[imtommygunn]

Fair enough. I only saw it real time.

[Derryman forever]

Having watched the replay, the only reason that Derry are not playing on Sunday week is that the little things that turn games happened to go against them.
Losing Mc Grogan, having that goal chance of mc kinless saved , just one more of the 50 /50 decisions go their way.
It was just not Derrys day. Had nothing to do with kerry being better or more experienced.  Derry simply did not get the breaks, that on another day they might have.
I could not be prouder of them .

[tonto1888]

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

Did the defender not dive to make the block and caught McGrogan on the follow through? By accident?

thats exactly what happened

[Derryman forever]

Thomas niblock is hard to listen to commentating. He is awful. Bring back Mark Sidebottom.
And Philly mc Mahon is even worse.
The BBC used to be much better at this.

[Maroon Manc]

Thought Derry had a decent chance before the game but that 1st half performance was way better then I thought they were capable off. That 2nd half will haunt for a long time, should have been 4 or 5 points up going into the final 10 minutes.

Derry's injury record the last 2 years looking from afar is impressive as is Kerry's especially when you compare that to someone like Galway who were decimated this year, Derry playing division 1 next year might find it tougher in that department so finding new blood is imperative.

Thought Derry would need a bit of luck to win the game but the reality is that Kerry got the luck from McQuillan.

[statto]

Thomas niblock is hard to listen to commentating. He is awful. Bring back Mark Sidebottom.
And Philly mc Mahon is even worse.
The BBC used to be much better at this.

Bring back jimmy smyth or jimmy magee!