NFL Division 1 2024

[Blowitupref]

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a
draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

Is that the whole championship or just the All Ireland bit of it?
You could have Tyrone playing Derry in Ulster and both might reach the semi finals.

All Ireland semi finals.

[Armagh18]

Can't see Mayo going remotely full tilt especially after the way last years final affected them in the championship. With Roscommon the week after, I be putting out a limited team.

So you think they should prioritise a provincial first round match over a national final and the chance to win a trophy just in case Galway might inflict a morale crushing defeat? I just don't get that mindset.

Totally unfair that they are in the position to have that decision to make. God forbid they lose a key man or 2 to injury vs Galway.

[The Trap]

Mayo will go full out to win on Sunday. They will be big favourites to beat Roscommon anyway.........and even if they don't a break before the all ireland group stages wouldn't be the end of the world......whatever way they go about it they will make the last 8!

[anportmorforjfc]

Do the 2nd place finishers in a group play the 3rd place team in their group or is there a draw for the 3rd place team that they will play from another group? Hope that makes sense.

[GAABoardMod5]

Do the 2nd place finishers in a group play the 3rd place team in their group or is there a draw for the 3rd place team that they will play from another group? Hope that makes sense.

Preliminary Quarter-Finals
24-25.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)

The four second-placed teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play at home against the four third-placed teams, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Quarter-Finals
01-02.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)

The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Semi-Finals
15-16.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Two Games)

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

Final
30.07.2023 (Sun) | (Replay: 12.08.2023 (Sat))
(One Game)

The winners of the All-Ireland Semi-Finals shall meet in the All-Ireland Final.

Note: All-Ireland Final will have Extra time in the original fixture and will be winner on the day in the event of a replay only.

Venues

Venues for the All-Ireland Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals and Final shall be determined by the Central Competitions Control Committee.

Winner on the Day

The All-Ireland Football Preliminary Quarter-Finals, Quarter-Finals & Semi-Finals will be winner on the day.

Edit:  Link to Master Fixtures 2023 Booklet:  https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-master-fixtures-for-2023-published/

[Wildweasel74]

Is that the big title that nobody cares about anymore.Back 10/15yrs ago, it might meant something, but with the Championship now on top of the league, it's importance is greatly diminished. I rather beat Fermanagh in Ulster than beat, Dublin in a Div 2 final.

[badjawbadteast]

Is the semi finals a open draw or is it Ulster team vs Leinster team,Munster team vs Connacht team?

[Captain Obvious]

Is that the big title that nobody cares about anymore.Back 10/15yrs ago, it might meant something, but with the Championship now on top of the league, it's importance is greatly diminished. I rather beat Fermanagh in Ulster than beat, Dublin in a Div 2 final.

The old lads running the show in HQ are to blame for that. With a bit of common sense used and with better scheduling we could have two equalling important competitions right now.

[yellowcard]

Is that the big title that nobody cares about anymore.Back 10/15yrs ago, it might meant something, but with the Championship now on top of the league, it's importance is greatly diminished. I rather beat Fermanagh in Ulster than beat, Dublin in a Div 2 final.

I think there should be a 2 week gap before champioship, that much we can agree on. However I don't think teams were as prepared for the League as they were 10/15 years ago. Due to the condensed season and the seedings link between League and championship, teams now have to hit the ground running in the League (apart from Kerry and Dublin who can still aim to peak later in the summer). So it probably has more merit then winning it back then did.

A division 2 title is a different situation especially since Derry won an Ulster title last season and therefore a secondary League title wouldn't hold anywhere near the same appeal. Derry aren't aiming to be the 9th best team in Ireland, they are aiming to be number one. But I was talking specifically about a division 1 title.   

[imtommygunn]

The leagues are about promotion / not relegation in the lower leagues and then in the higher leagues about staying in it. The winning of these titles isn't that big a deal. It's why the hurling is less competitive at the top level - the big teams know they'll stay in it so don't have to put so much effort in it.

[RedHand88]

Is the semi finals a open draw or is it Ulster team vs Leinster team,Munster team vs Connacht team?

Open draw I think, avoiding repeat pairings.

[RedHand88]

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a
draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

Is that the whole championship or just the All Ireland bit of it?
You could have Tyrone playing Derry in Ulster and both might reach the semi finals.

It's happened before, remember Tyrone v Armagh 2005. Or have you blocked that day from your mind? 
The teams played 3 games in the championship that summer across 2 fixtures.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/28/when-were-backed-into-a-corner-we-definitely-come-out-fighting-monaghan-hail-another-great-escape/

The team representing a county of just 60,000 people have become the great survivors of Division One of the national football league


Tue Mar 28 2023 - 21:22

In the TV show Breaking Bad, a scene where Jesse Pinkman realises the horrors of crime partner Walter White's actions over the years culminates in him being distraught and yelling "he can't keep getting away with this!" As Armagh lost to Tyrone at Healy Park on Sunday, they could have been forgiven for feeling the same way about Monaghan, as the Farney County got away with it once more.

Again, they had avoided relegation from Division One of the football league – this time by winning away to Mayo, previously unbeaten in the league.

It was their sixth survival on the final day of the league season in nine years, four times by winning, once by drawing and once despite losing, in 2019, but still surviving as Roscommon were also beaten.

Of this year's Division One teams, only Kerry have been in the top flight longer, after Monaghan relegated Dublin by beating them on the final day last year. Division One status is a source of great pride for Monaghan folk, a county of just over 60,000 people, and they are in no hurry to give it up.




The senior players in the squad remember the days of Division Three, and when manager Vinnie Corey began his career, Monaghan were mid-table in Division 2B. Now they've got a taste of top status, they will do everything in their power to preserve that position, says former Monaghan coach and selector David McCague.

"Monaghan people and our psychological make-up definitely comes through in our sporting performance. Even our geographical location, as south of the border there were times when we were looked at disparagingly from Dublin," McCague says.


"That's innate in our make-up, we like to battle and win against the odds.

"The leaders in the squad were an extra year older this year, which makes it even more remarkable. Conor McManus and Karl O'Connell started their first national league games on Sunday against Mayo. One of them is 35 and the other is 34, in a game that is dominated by young players. That these guys can keep themselves in shape to play such a big part, it was massive for Monaghan."

McManus, arguably the county's finest ever forward, was vital on Sunday, scoring 1-7, five of the points from play. The previous two years it was Jack McCarron that saved the day. In 2021 he rescued them with the last kick of the game against Galway. Last year, with his team level with Dublin in the 75th minute, McCarron saved the day again from 40 metres out, part of a personal 2-5 total that day.

On Sunday, McManus and McCarron started together for the first time this year, saving the big guns for last.

In 2016, they lost four games in a row, went seven points down to Donegal on the last day and took the lead for the first time in the fourth minute of injury-time, thanks to a score from cornerback Colin Walshe. It was Walshe's only score of the whole league. Never say never.

Monaghan forward Shane Carey joined the panel when Monaghan had just won Division Two and has played through their many escapes. He said thinking about relegation is not a thought at the beginning of every campaign, they go out to win every match of the competition, but once priorities shift, they are not ready to let standards drop.


"When I arrived in the panel, the standards were set then by some of the more experienced players and that passed on to the next group that came in. And you saw how the experienced players made a difference," Carey said.

"When we're backed into a corner, we definitely come out fighting. We've done that on all those occasions, the Galway game [in 2021] was very similar to this one.

"The standards you have to hit at the level of Division One are really important for the development for any team. League football's brilliant, it's top teams week on week and when you have to be on it every week or you find out very fast.

"We've all grown up watching Monaghan and it's all about that work ethic and fight, your performance on those days is the big part, performing when it matters."

Monaghan's final day escapes:
2016: Monaghan 1-10 Donegal 1-09

2019: Mayo 3-15 Monaghan 1-18 (Roscommon also lost on final day)


2020: Monaghan 2-14 Meath 1-17

2021: Monaghan 1-21 Galway 2-17 (aet)

2022: Monaghan 3-13 Dublin 1-18

2023: Mayo 0-14 Monaghan 2-14

[Maroon Manc]

Lots of talk about Monaghan and rightly so about how well they do in comparison to their small population, would be interesting to see a table of male adult playing numbers in every county (suspect one doesn't exist).

I'm sure there must be at table ranking counties by the amount of football clubs they have?

[seafoid]

Lots of talk about Monaghan and rightly so about how well they do in comparison to their small population, would be interesting to see a table of male adult playing numbers in every county (suspect one doesn't exist).

I'm sure there must be at table ranking counties by the amount of football clubs they have?