6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022

[Armagh18]

Not a great day TBH.

Further polarisation and we're constantly moving further away from a UI with any kind of super-majority consensus.


Things keep going as they are and the Shinners will try and ram a border poll in first chance they get - without much thought as to what happens if it did go through 51/49.

How do we know they aren't thinking of what happens after? 'Cos they sure as f**k aren't laying any ground work right now.


[Now, to be fair, the unionist parties can't face that future and are sticking their heads in the ground with respect to the inevitable. Which doesn't help, but Sinn Fein's building of an economic case for a UI - to the public BOTH sides of the border - is utterly non existent.]

Then there is a UI as laid out in the GFA...

Not unless we in the 26 vote for it too.
Takes 2 to have a wedding.

To save me the trouble of going through Constituencies - has anyone the total 1st Prefs for Nationalist (SF, SDLP, Aontú, PBP) and Unionist (DUP  UUP, TUV, Easton, Sugden)

Could you imagine people in the 26 campaigning against a United Ireland if it was there for the taking?

It isn't there for the taking. It has to be planned and it hasn't been

Read it again. I said "if". When push comes to shove I'd be confident that a huge majority in the 26 would be in favour

[Armagh18]

By my reckoning
SF +SDLP + Aontú+PBP = 351,200.
DUPUDA +UUP +TUVUDA = 346,180.
Alliance 116,681
Greens 16,433
Independents (2 Unionist?) 25,315
Others 6,894.

Gavin Malone would be nationalist, he got something like 3k first preference. Border poll is gonna be decided by how that Alliance/Green vote splits, plus the non voters.

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah seafoid actually thought Newtownards was full of money! It's actually a shithole

So is most of Belfast. It's all relative

But it was your 'knowledge' I was knocking as you clearly hadn't a clue, which is telling tbh. So when you post about the north being a basket case I'll take it with a pinch of salt 

[marty34]

Here's a question one for ye, Alliance now more a nationalist based party than unionist?

i would say so yes.

Hard to know.

I'd say 'nationalists' are voting for Alliance, and giving them transfers in areas like Strangford, and nth. Antrim etc.

Nationalist parties should sort out a pact in Strangford, East Antrim and Lagan Valley etc. to get a nationalist elected.

[seafoid]

Yeah seafoid actually thought Newtownards was full of money! It's actually a shithole

So is most of Belfast. It's all relative

But it was your 'knowledge' I was knocking as you clearly hadn't a clue, which is telling tbh. So when you post about the north being a basket case I'll take it with a pinch of salt 

It's based on a map. North Down is wealthier than Tyrone. Household disposable income is 18-20k vs 16-18k

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah seafoid actually thought Newtownards was full of money! It's actually a shithole

So is most of Belfast. It's all relative

But it was your 'knowledge' I was knocking as you clearly hadn't a clue, which is telling tbh. So when you post about the north being a basket case I'll take it with a pinch of salt 

It's based on a map. North Down is wealthier than Tyrone. Household disposable income is 18-20k vs 16-18k

It's not based on local knowledge. Which for you is pretty poor on that point.

[Dougal Maguire]

Yeah seafoid actually thought Newtownards was full of money! It's actually a shithole

So is most of Belfast. It's all relative

But it was your 'knowledge' I was knocking as you clearly hadn't a clue, which is telling tbh. So when you post about the north being a basket case I'll take it with a pinch of salt 

It's based on a map. North Down is wealthier than Tyrone. Household disposable income is 18-20k vs 16-18k

Newtownards is in the Strangford constituency not North Down

[Armagh18]

Here's a question one for ye, Alliance now more a nationalist based party than unionist?

i would say so yes.

Hard to know.

I'd say 'nationalists' are voting for Alliance, and giving them transfers in areas like Strangford, and nth. Antrim etc.

Nationalist parties should sort out a pact in Strangford, East Antrim and Lagan Valley etc. to get a nationalist elected.

Yeah agreed. Although you don't mind seeing Alliance kick the dup out in the likes of lose places. 

[seafoid]

Not a great day TBH.

Further polarisation and we're constantly moving further away from a UI with any kind of super-majority consensus.


Things keep going as they are and the Shinners will try and ram a border poll in first chance they get - without much thought as to what happens if it did go through 51/49.

How do we know they aren't thinking of what happens after? 'Cos they sure as f**k aren't laying any ground work right now.


[Now, to be fair, the unionist parties can't face that future and are sticking their heads in the ground with respect to the inevitable. Which doesn't help, but Sinn Fein's building of an economic case for a UI - to the public BOTH sides of the border - is utterly non existent.]

Then there is a UI as laid out in the GFA...

Not unless we in the 26 vote for it too.
Takes 2 to have a wedding.

To save me the trouble of going through Constituencies - has anyone the total 1st Prefs for Nationalist (SF, SDLP, Aontú, PBP) and Unionist (DUP  UUP, TUV, Easton, Sugden)

Could you imagine people in the 26 campaigning against a United Ireland if it was there for the taking?

It isn't there for the taking. It has to be planned and it hasn't been

Read it again. I said "if". When push comes to shove I'd be confident that a huge majority in the 26 would be in favour

1. There is no way Boris Johnson is going to support a Border poll. Shinners need to get real
2. A UI will take decades to plan . There is no point in a half arsed approach that fails

[seafoid]

   https://www.ft.com/content/3a0929c9-a589-469a-8f95-ce7160e526b0

   Northern Ireland is in a cost of living crisis. Its health service is in trouble. Infrastructure needs investment. And then there is the protocol. Northern Ireland needs a working government.

[restorepride]

All roads lead to Magherafelt!! Is Mary Lou wearing red, white and blue?! Jaysus! Might be the 'colour-blindness'!?

[armaghniac]

All roads lead to Magherafelt!! Is Mary Lou wearing red, white and blue?! Jaysus! Might be the 'colour-blindness'!?

These mega counting centres are a bit odd, although I suppose it makes it easier for TV etc. There were traffic jams at these places and Magherafelt is the best part of a two hour drive from some parts.

[Mourne Red]

Question - Did anyone gets SDLP knocking on there door? Felt there was a severe lack of precense on the ground from them in this election? Had SF and Alliance call to the door and they were also at the polling station but SDLP nowhere to be seen - Another factor of why they've done so poorly

[Itchy]

   https://www.ft.com/content/3a0929c9-a589-469a-8f95-ce7160e526b0

   Northern Ireland is in a cost of living crisis. Its health service is in trouble. Infrastructure needs investment. And then there is the protocol. Northern Ireland needs a working government.

Grass is green, water is wet. Thanks Seafood

[seafoid]

Yeah seafoid actually thought Newtownards was full of money! It's actually a shithole

So is most of Belfast. It's all relative

But it was your 'knowledge' I was knocking as you clearly hadn't a clue, which is telling tbh. So when you post about the north being a basket case I'll take it with a pinch of salt 

It's based on a map. North Down is wealthier than Tyrone. Household disposable income is 18-20k vs 16-18k

It's not based on local knowledge. Which for you is pretty poor on that point.

You don't have to live somewhere to know something about it. If you did, you would never be able to comment on the all Ireland hurling championship.