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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 27, 2021, 04:03:31 PM »
The true face of the extreme right wing "anti-lockdown", anti-vaccine "movement", even though it refuses to show its face.

https://twitter.com/culladgh/status/1450103964876353538
Manipulated gobshites

In fairness they are gobshites. Don't like that culture of harassment & videoing. They remind me of Antifa Bellends.  How are they manipulated though? One could argue that the ones been manipulated, are the healthy under 50's  who will go on to take multiple Covid booster jabs. I said it before the efficacy of these vaccines is poor, science must to better.

I'll be honest - there's a few people I know of and I know they have issues with their mental health and they are starting to buy into a lot of the anti vax nonsense. Now some people may have genuine concerns on the vaccine and that is fine but it is the batshit crazy they are out to control you and to get you and this has been the plan all along. I'll tell you what - based on some stuff I hear sometimes I wish my company could get the project manager who conspired to manage the whole pandemic.

* Just to be clear the pandemic has been a big struggle for lots of people but for me there are some people who have really struggled on a mental health level and are completely scundered with it. I believe there are "anti vax propagandists" who are trying to tap into this. That really concerns me. The people who are doing the harassing here will mainly be people who have been sucked into it not the people who are "driving" it.

I empathise with people who are struggling and who don't buy into the vaccine etc I genuinely do. I don't empathise with the batshit crazy conspiracy theorists.

I agree with most of what you said above & they are people (very well educated (whose opinions deserve respect) who have genuine concerns over a new vaccine) however one could argue its a conspiracy theory to suggest anti vax people are targeting vulnerable people to ascend their agenda.
You should have no issues with people who have reasoned medical concerns about taking the vaccine. Gob da's who lifted a dying man (who could have been saved)  out of a hospital in LUH on the other hand need a hammering. The no vaccine no job agenda are another shower of dangerous yokes.

Who are they a danger to?

Don't get me wrong, everyone has a right to decide what goes into their bodies but there's implications with the choices we make.

A danger to society in general terms.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 27, 2021, 03:44:20 PM »
The true face of the extreme right wing "anti-lockdown", anti-vaccine "movement", even though it refuses to show its face.

https://twitter.com/culladgh/status/1450103964876353538
Manipulated gobshites

In fairness they are gobshites. Don't like that culture of harassment & videoing. They remind me of Antifa Bellends.  How are they manipulated though? One could argue that the ones been manipulated, are the healthy under 50's  who will go on to take multiple Covid booster jabs. I said it before the efficacy of these vaccines is poor, science must to better.

I'll be honest - there's a few people I know of and I know they have issues with their mental health and they are starting to buy into a lot of the anti vax nonsense. Now some people may have genuine concerns on the vaccine and that is fine but it is the batshit crazy they are out to control you and to get you and this has been the plan all along. I'll tell you what - based on some stuff I hear sometimes I wish my company could get the project manager who conspired to manage the whole pandemic.

* Just to be clear the pandemic has been a big struggle for lots of people but for me there are some people who have really struggled on a mental health level and are completely scundered with it. I believe there are "anti vax propagandists" who are trying to tap into this. That really concerns me. The people who are doing the harassing here will mainly be people who have been sucked into it not the people who are "driving" it.

I empathise with people who are struggling and who don't buy into the vaccine etc I genuinely do. I don't empathise with the batshit crazy conspiracy theorists.

I agree with most of what you said above & they are people (very well educated (whose opinions deserve respect) who have genuine concerns over a new vaccine) however one could argue its a conspiracy theory to suggest anti vax people are targeting vulnerable people to ascend their agenda.
You should have no issues with people who have reasoned medical concerns about taking the vaccine. Gob da's who lifted a dying man (who could have been saved)  out of a hospital in LUH on the other hand need a hammering. The no vaccine no job agenda are another shower of dangerous yokes.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 27, 2021, 03:08:20 PM »
The true face of the extreme right wing "anti-lockdown", anti-vaccine "movement", even though it refuses to show its face.

https://twitter.com/culladgh/status/1450103964876353538
Manipulated gobshites

In fairness they are gobshites. Don't like that culture of harassment & videoing. They remind me of Antifa Bellends.  How are they manipulated though? One could argue that the ones been manipulated, are the healthy under 50's  who will go on to take multiple Covid booster jabs. I said it before the efficacy of these vaccines is poor, science must to better.

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General discussion / Re: The Late Late show
« on: October 22, 2021, 10:27:33 PM »
Yer man coked off his head wearing a sarong.

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: October 22, 2021, 09:37:30 PM »
Ah jaysus, Will Ferrell? Iíve never found anything heís ever done in any way funny.

Robin Williams the same. He always reminded me of a child sugared up to the tits on sweets, who should be hit a slap in the bake and told to sit the f**k down.

Good Will Hunting?? A masterpiece

And Doubtfire!

Doubtfire is fine. Because itís not him being him. You can sort of pretend it really is an aul doll. When he stops the stupid voices and dicking about, I could get through some of his stuff but I tend to avoid him if I can.

Never seen Hunting. Sounds very tedious.

Good Will Hunting he is brilliant, shows he can actually act a bit. 

Anyone watching Maid on Netflix? Surprised me how good it actually is.

Yip Maid is good, yer one cant catch a break, based on a true story.

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: October 21, 2021, 02:21:30 PM »
Started You last night on Netflix, decent start

Season 1? Your one could do with curtains  ;D

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 21, 2021, 02:20:32 PM »
Winter is when Covid takes off.
Plus vaccines become less effective over time

Take your daily dose of Vitamin D & C & Niacin and you'll be fine. If your health is compromised get the booster.

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: October 21, 2021, 01:42:26 PM »
Dexter was mighty all together. Looking forward to the nest season, hope it won't jump the shark.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 21, 2021, 01:40:06 PM »
The vaccine gives people a false sense of protection leading to them gallivanting all over the place

100% correct.

Yes, thats true. Some people went mental last year when restrictions were reduced prior to Christmas. Sicken you the way the vaccinated ones feel no shame in passing it on to the unvaccinated ones ;D

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 20, 2021, 09:47:35 AM »
The building industry is self regulated in the republic, no nsai audits or policing of products to meet minimum accept quality criteria. Therefore the tax payer will be liable for full redress of the re-build of thousands of homes in Donegal (affected by mica) to the tune of 3 billion euro plus.
Same applies to the Covid certs. Leo Varadkar expects me to ask a pub why they let me into their facility without producing a proof of Covid Vaccination Cert. Whats the point in asking for certs if the matter is not going to be policed by an independent body. The government in the republic have handled things poorly too. We always had a winter health crisis regarding hospitals & availability of ICU beds, the unvaccinated are the fall guys these days.

By the way whats the story in the North, do they ask for Covid Certs when dinning indoors?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 18, 2021, 11:23:14 AM »
But also one fool in Mater Belfast does not tarnish the actual medical experts.

Rudi, you are placing a lot of emphasis on the viral load. While it's disappointing, the main point about it is that it just means vaccinated still have to be careful with social distancing etc.
It doesn't improve the position of the unvaccinated. An unvaccinated person is still more likely to pass on Covid, because an unvaccinated person is more likely to catch Covid. You can't pass it on until you get it, and you significantly reduce your chances of getting it by being jabbed.

I get that Hound, I'm not anti vaccination. However I was lead to believe that the un unvaccinated carried greater viral loads than the vaccinated. This was the story from Luke O Neill & the boys in Nphet up until recently.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 18, 2021, 10:49:41 AM »
I think itís important to keep the ďhigh expressed emotionĒ out of the argument.
The vaccines arenít perfect but they have been very effective in keeping people out of hospital. They donít prevent spread and arguably if vaccinated people get complacent and donít continue to practice good covid hygiene practices, they will contribute significantly to rise in cases. The vaccines protect most from serious illness , but if there are more cases then even a small percentage of a large number of cases could break the NHS. The nhs has been grossly underfunded for years snd this pandemic has exposed this dramatically.
Imho there is only one path to take. Promote worldwide vaccination , and incentivisation through vaccine passports will help. In addition we must continue to practice Covid safety sense, this needs to be easy measures That the population can sustain economically and psychologically. This approach to eradication via herd immunity thru vaccination and infections , whilst keeping numbers low so as not to break the nhs is probably our only hope of getting on top of this. Taking any other approach is high risk  and likely to lead to significantly more deaths.
Anyone proposing a different strategy , has no hope of it succeeding , as they are fighting against very very strong scientific arguments. The only possible impact of anti-vacc strategies is to delay combatting this pandemic and cause many more deaths.
In short vaccinate the world, get boosters when available, keep Covid smart , and beat this.
Part of that strategy must be worldwide social media regulation that prevents poor quality anecdotal opinion being treated on an equal footing to established and very strong medical evidence .

Does this apply to mis-information such as that which the poster "Thatstheball" has highlighted. It was claimed by numerous scientists including our own members of Nphet that the unvaccinated carried higher viral loads than the vaccinated in relation to the spread of Covid. Mis-information is a two way street.
Edit - This is in relation to the last sentence of your commentary.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 18, 2021, 10:26:14 AM »
But people who are unvaccinated are more likely to catch Covid than people who are vaccinated, therefore, you are much safer eating in a restaurant that only allows vaccinated to attend.

Fair enough I don't disagree, however that was not the primary reason for exclusion of unvaccinated people from indoor dining in this country.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 18, 2021, 09:50:04 AM »
Tweet from Cillian de Gascun

Whilst vaccination reduces the risk of Delta infection, fully vaccinated individuals have viral loads similar to unvaccinated & can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts (Singanayagamet al, madRxiv.

 ;D Never mind the bollocks here's the science ehh Luke O Neill ::) He's a bluffer with a good few euro in his pocket.

That's been known for a while. But you get people (frankly idiots) who misinterpret this as meaning vaccines don't work or don't matter, and they ignore the fact that you're far far less likely to catch Covid if you have been vaccinated. And those idiots spread the message to other idiots, resulting in the self fulfilling prophecy that too many don't get the vaccine, so the vaccine does not eliminate the virus.

The above was 1 of 18 tweets De Gascun had yesterday on the subject as he was explaining how herd immunity or what he prefers to call "Community Level Protection" works with vaccines.

The reproductive number is important and De Gascun compared vaccine effectiveness (VE) and vaccine uptake of other viruses:

Smallpox: VE 95%, uptake > 80% worldwide = eradicated
Endemic Rubella: VE 99%, uptake > 92% Ireland = eliminated
Endemic Measles: VE 95%, uptake > 92% Ireland = eliminated
Endemic Mumps: VE: 65-75%, uptake > 92% Ireland = not eliminated

For Covid, VE ranges from 53% to 91% (overall 75% is reasonable estimate). 88% uptake in those over 12 in Ireland, means 75-80% across the whole population, so overall vaccines on their own cannot control Covid at current uptake levels. Therefore, additional public health measures, including increasing vaccine uptake is required to control Covid.

But De Gascun also emphasised that the vaccines are very effective at protecting against hospitalisation and severe disease.

Idiots including people who should know better like Luke O Neill & Pat Kenny who don't want to eat in restaurants with the unvaccinated as they are multiple times more likely to pass on Covid that the vaccinated.
 I fully accept everything you wrote above as being accurate, the vaccine is doing a job in saving lives & reducing the pressure in hospitals. However the efficacy of these vaccines is poor. The immunity depreciates very significantly over time, therefore the requirement for boosters. A greater proportion of people aged 20 - 60 are  unlikely to take up the opportunity to get the booster jab, scientists have to develop a better treatment for Covid, than the current vaccines.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 18, 2021, 08:31:59 AM »
Tweet from Cillian de Gascun

Whilst vaccination reduces the risk of Delta infection, fully vaccinated individuals have viral loads similar to unvaccinated & can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts (Singanayagamet al, madRxiv.

 ;D Never mind the bollocks here's the science ehh Luke O Neill ::) He's a bluffer with a good few euro in his pocket.

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