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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 15, 2021, 11:23:06 PM »
It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

So Tyrones AI titles in 2003 and 2021 donít mean as much because they didnít beat Dublin or Kerry in the final?

There you go then, more All Irelandís with an asterisk  ;D

2003 - handy All Ireland
2005 - a back door All Ireland
2008 - another back door All Ireland
2021 - the Covid bluff All Ireland

You might as well say Tyrone have never yet won the All Ireland

Nobody remembers who you beat , but they know how many times youve won it

Down wont win Sam in the next 20 years ! Complete shambles

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 15, 2021, 05:37:38 PM »
It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 13, 2021, 11:15:21 PM »
Dunloy & Cushendall finished level on points in their group, drew head to head - Dunloy progressed to semis on better score differential

But if and Iím not sure if itís being played or not, if the other team concedes how is it fair on the team that may have a chance?
That's the reason, why the rule was amended. So that a team cant be penalised for another team not fielding against them.
Your are right , the remaining game may be played, I presume the CCC will sort it out tonight !

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 13, 2021, 11:07:39 PM »
Surely points difference is the first tie breaker, regardless of head to head & if you use head to head as a tie breaker, you canít separate then you go to points difference. Itís bizarre

Head to head was a draw.
Then
Score difference would be used , if all games played.
If a game involving the tied teams is conceded  it will go to a play off game

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 13, 2021, 11:03:28 PM »
Unreal. That damages the integrity of the competition. Poor form on Gort's behalf. I'm sure Glenariffe will feel aggrieved. That said it's a great extra fixture for us neutrals. Neutral venue you'd have to assume. Cushendun possibly.

It looks like.... doesnt mean that it has been though! Just an opinion.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 13, 2021, 10:33:50 PM »
Interesting, but with the fixture in Turf Lodge, why wouldn't they field?

The match hasnt been refixed or listed to be refixed. 
I would've thought it would be played before the last round of fixtures. It looks like it has been conceded.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 13, 2021, 10:17:06 PM »
Getting wind that Carey/Glenariffe are heading for a knockout game if/when Carey beat Gort Na Mona.

Assuming they finish on equal points and given they drew their fixture, it's head to head results count and not score difference.

Only fair.....unless Carey wallop Gort na Mona...

They are never going to beat them by the 25 points required.

It would be decided on score difference
But if GNM didnt field it would be a play off !

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021
« on: September 12, 2021, 12:32:29 PM »
Kerry will be even more sick this morning but in light of Tyrone winnng the AI perhaps the over reaction to what was deemed a catastrophic performance at the time might not be viewed as bad in the cold light of day. Certainly the defeat and performance against Cork last year was a lot worse.

I also think Monaghan, Armagh, Derry and Donegal will look at Tyroneís success and think that if they can do it then they arenít too far away either especially now that Dublin have faded back into the pack.

It could be equally as hard to get out of Ulster as to win the All Ireland .

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs TŪr Eoghain
« on: September 11, 2021, 08:06:21 PM »
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

Mayo needed to turn up.in the first instance. And take the blind fold off  ffs,  Tyrone stood up when it counted

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: September 09, 2021, 05:37:48 PM »

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either


Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

You are looking children who have tested negative to keep isolating for 10 days - can you explain why apart from it is easiest for the school?

Yes because the PCR test could be -ve on Day 2 but +ve on Day 3, how can you determine what is safe for every child in a class.?  Most children are asymptomatic ...which is another problem.
Covid cases numbers arent coming down that significantly either

Many kids dying or in ICU, you would have the schools closed, when would you reopen when covid is wiped out?

I would isolate a class if positive case in it, which is a long way from closing a school.
I would maintain that position until +ve  case numbers are greatly reduced, rather than increasing as they seem to be doing !

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: September 09, 2021, 04:01:05 PM »

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either


Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

You are looking children who have tested negative to keep isolating for 10 days - can you explain why apart from it is easiest for the school?

Yes because the PCR test could be -ve on Day 2 but +ve on Day 3, how can you determine what is safe for every child in a class.?  Most children are asymptomatic ...which is another problem.
Covid cases numbers arent coming down that significantly either

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: September 09, 2021, 01:53:49 PM »

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland final tickets thread
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:41:59 AM »
But if the Mickys and Marys stop producing....
Or even worse only drop the kids to soccer or fkn rugby ....

There are no loss and defo deserve no ticket

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:39:37 AM »
My child can now go anywhere she likes after testing negative but because the school has decided not to follow the guidance she canít attend school for the next 8 days.
Primary or post-primary?

Iím surprised that some schools are going against the guidance. There couldnít be many.

The current guidance in the North is complete bollocks tbh.
If a child has Covid , all close contacts should isolate for 10 days.
No variables allowed. Breaks the cycle of close contacts, spreading the virus continously around the classroom/ school.

I

This is not the guidance in the north.

If a child is deemed a close contact - and are not vaccinated - then they must pass a PCR test to return to school. In most cases, this is a 2 day turn around.

And as I said , that  guidance s complete nonsense .
A child/ pupil can be -ve on day 2 , if they are lucky enough to get a PCR test,  but be positive on Day 5 and spread the virus around the room. Research is indicating that Day 3 should be the opitimal day for testing in first place.
The guidance is not a statutory requirement.
Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

Are you f**king mental? 10 days? There'll be nobody left in the schools.
Teachers should all be vaccinated. There is minuscule risk to the kids. There is absolutely no need to test for this virus.

How do you know schools are empty ?

So, do you think herd immunity is the way to go?
By isolating, you break the cycle, curb the infection rates, stop people getting sick.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:32:44 AM »
My child can now go anywhere she likes after testing negative but because the school has decided not to follow the guidance she canít attend school for the next 8 days.
Primary or post-primary?

Iím surprised that some schools are going against the guidance. There couldnít be many.

The current guidance in the North is complete bollocks tbh.
If a child has Covid , all close contacts should isolate for 10 days.
No variables allowed. Breaks the cycle of close contacts, spreading the virus continously around the classroom/ school.

I

This is not the guidance in the north.

If a child is deemed a close contact - and are not vaccinated - then they must pass a PCR test to return to school. In most cases, this is a 2 day turn around.

And as I said , that  guidance s complete nonsense .
A child/ pupil can be -ve on day 2 , if they are lucky enough to get a PCR test,  but be positive on Day 5 and spread the virus around the room. Research is indicating that Day 3 should be the opitimal day for testing in first place.
The guidance is not a statutory requirement.
Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !


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