The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Gmac]

Joe and the administration think they can wait out this disaster ?  they seem to be doing f all
The videos and pictures coming from outside the airport are a disgrace and a humanitarian disaster.
Do you still think he's fit to run the country j70 ?

Yeah Trump would be all bout helping the Afghan civilians and translators who assisted through the last 20 years!!

Nobody is given Biden a pass on this but what was the alternative? I see his approval has held at 50 points from 51 today so doesn't seem like buyers remorse has set in yet!

do you really think everyone storming the airport since last week were all translators?
Is that an msnbc poll they seem to be the only ones sticking with the clown show.

[Gmac]

Complete disaster in Afghanistan
Southern border another disaster
Inflation
Cutting our own energy supply
Covid still rampant
Jan 6 another cover up
Like they used to say for four years it's only 10am on Sunday impeach this clown

Jan 6 cover-up? Pease do tell us more you f**king clown.

More of the energy supply bullshit which I showed to be pure nonsense the other week?

Inflation? What does Biden do about the computer chips and the surge in second hand car demand? The increased demand for hotel rooms as people travel more internally? The global supply chain issues combined with increased demand driving shortages in things like furniture?

Covid ?  Are you f**king serious? The absolute gall of you; you were on here spreading moronic, half-baked misinformation a couple of weeks ago, nonsense you no doubt picked up from right media and politicians. The same kind of shite that's lengthening the pandemic.

jan 6 might be hitting to close to home same with fake Michigan gov kidnapping.
I said something about pcr tests that has nothing to do with covid still being rampant.
A clown would be someone who can't see joe Biden is unfortunately cognitively challenged or is is still gaffes ? The gaffes are starting to cost tens of thousands of lives.

[maigheo]

Jeez, Gmac you really are disgracing yourself with the rubbish you are posting .

[Gmac]

Jeez, Gmac you really are disgracing yourself with the rubbish you are posting .

how exactly?

[Gmac]

Jeez, Gmac you really are disgracing yourself with the rubbish you are posting .

I meant to say Mayo joe is the man

[J70]

Complete disaster in Afghanistan
Southern border another disaster
Inflation
Cutting our own energy supply
Covid still rampant
Jan 6 another cover up
Like they used to say for four years it's only 10am on Sunday impeach this clown

Jan 6 cover-up? Pease do tell us more you f**king clown.

More of the energy supply bullshit which I showed to be pure nonsense the other week?

Inflation? What does Biden do about the computer chips and the surge in second hand car demand? The increased demand for hotel rooms as people travel more internally? The global supply chain issues combined with increased demand driving shortages in things like furniture?

Covid ?  Are you f**king serious? The absolute gall of you; you were on here spreading moronic, half-baked misinformation a couple of weeks ago, nonsense you no doubt picked up from right media and politicians. The same kind of shite that's lengthening the pandemic.

jan 6 might be hitting to close to home same with fake Michigan gov kidnapping.
I said something about pcr tests that has nothing to do with covid still being rampant.
A clown would be someone who can't see joe Biden is unfortunately cognitively challenged or is is still gaffes ? The gaffes are starting to cost tens of thousands of lives.

Ok, I'll play along, one last time.

1. WHAT exactly should Biden be doing, in your opinion, on Covid that he's not doing? You want to see federally mandated vaccinations? You want to see federally mandated lockdowns? Should he be down there in Florida and New Orleans kicking people out of clubs and bars? Should he make everyone take doses of Ivermectin with their corn flakes?

2. Spell out what the "cover up" is about January 6? And what exactly that has to do with the suspect's counter allegations in the Michigan governor's case? Give us your theory of how the FBI, presumably, manipulated and entrapped all those people to run riot in the Capitol after going there at Trump's behest.

3. Go ahead and give us some details on Biden and how his "cognitive decline" is responsible for what's going on in Afghanistan, as opposed to poor planning and intelligence, political blinders, wishful thinking and maybe simple bureaucratic incompetence.

[dec]

Ok, I'll play along, one last time.

1. WHAT exactly should Biden be doing, in your opinion, on Covid that he's not doing? You want to see federally mandated vaccinations? You want to see federally mandated lockdowns? Should he be down there in Florida and New Orleans kicking people out of clubs and bars? Should he make everyone take doses of Ivermectin with their corn flakes?

2. Spell out what the "cover up" is about January 6? And what exactly that has to do with the suspect's counter allegations in the Michigan governor's case? Give us your theory of how the FBI, presumably, manipulated and entrapped all those people to run riot in the Capitol after going there at Trump's behest.

3. Go ahead and give us some details on Biden and how his "cognitive decline" is responsible for what's going on in Afghanistan, as opposed to poor planning and intelligence, political blinders, wishful thinking and maybe simple bureaucratic incompetence.

You must be new here.

[Gmac]

Complete disaster in Afghanistan
Southern border another disaster
Inflation
Cutting our own energy supply
Covid still rampant
Jan 6 another cover up
Like they used to say for four years it's only 10am on Sunday impeach this clown

Jan 6 cover-up? Pease do tell us more you f**king clown.

More of the energy supply bullshit which I showed to be pure nonsense the other week?

Inflation? What does Biden do about the computer chips and the surge in second hand car demand? The increased demand for hotel rooms as people travel more internally? The global supply chain issues combined with increased demand driving shortages in things like furniture?

Covid ?  Are you f**king serious? The absolute gall of you; you were on here spreading moronic, half-baked misinformation a couple of weeks ago, nonsense you no doubt picked up from right media and politicians. The same kind of shite that's lengthening the pandemic.

jan 6 might be hitting to close to home same with fake Michigan gov kidnapping.
I said something about pcr tests that has nothing to do with covid still being rampant.
A clown would be someone who can't see joe Biden is unfortunately cognitively challenged or is is still gaffes ? The gaffes are starting to cost tens of thousands of lives.

Ok, I'll play along, one last time.

1. WHAT exactly should Biden be doing, in your opinion, on Covid that he's not doing? You want to see federally mandated vaccinations? You want to see federally mandated lockdowns? Should he be down there in Florida and New Orleans kicking people out of clubs and bars? Should he make everyone take doses of Ivermectin with their corn flakes?

2. Spell out what the "cover up" is about January 6? And what exactly that has to do with the suspect's counter allegations in the Michigan governor's case? Give us your theory of how the FBI, presumably, manipulated and entrapped all those people to run riot in the Capitol after going there at Trump's behest.

3. Go ahead and give us some details on Biden and how his "cognitive decline" is responsible for what's going on in Afghanistan, as opposed to poor planning and intelligence, political blinders, wishful thinking and maybe simple bureaucratic incompetence.

close the southern border , start promoting healthy lifestyle and supplements, he got 90% of the black vote yet less than 30% are vaccinated maybe work on that . I think most people who are getting vaccinated have done so already but the mixed messages don't help ,
Cover up is probably wrong way to say it the investigation of a none event showed up nothing only maybe a few FBI agents were at it .
Afghanistan is all on joe he keeps saying it so he's either losing it or totally incompetent you pick whatever keeps you happy.

[Milltown Row2]

Afghanistan is all on Joe? Close the thread or topic on that. I thought Irish politics was blinkered

[whitey]

Afghanistan is all on Joe? Close the thread or topic on that. I thought Irish politics was blinkered

The withdrawal debacle is all on Joe....100%!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/biden-wanted-to-leave-afghanistan-he-knew-the-risks-11629214842

"WASHINGTON—In his Monday speech defending America's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden said he would not shrink from his share of responsibility.

That would include his decision to bring home U.S. troops, which was made against the recommendations of his top military generals and many diplomats, who warned that a hasty withdrawal would undermine security in Afghanistan, several administration and defense officials said."

[johnnycool]

Why the place is impossible to conquer. Good little primer if you've got 16 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab9zK8yT4_Y

feckin Brits to blame yet again...

[J70]

close the southern border , start promoting healthy lifestyle and supplements, he got 90% of the black vote yet less than 30% are vaccinated maybe work on that . I think most people who are getting vaccinated have done so already but the mixed messages don't help ,
Cover up is probably wrong way to say it the investigation of a none event showed up nothing only maybe a few FBI agents were at it .
Afghanistan is all on joe he keeps saying it so he's either losing it or totally incompetent you pick whatever keeps you happy.

If the southern border is a significant driver of the current surge in Covid, go ahead and present some evidence for it. You've been on about it for the past month and are yet to present a scinitilla of facts to back up your assertion.

Yes, black people need to be encouraged to vaccinate, but the feds and local governments are already working on that and have been for months. Employer mandates should also help drive those up. Healthy lifestyle education is all very well (although is that not nanny state, communist propaganda for many on the right? Remember the right wing reaction to Michelle Obama, shock horror, campaigning for childhood nutrition?), but its not going to help much in the immediate future for Covid, and especially for poor people who already live in food deserts. You'll have to expand on supplements as I don't know what you're on about.

I'm guessing you're bringing this up now because the eejit in Texas, Lt. Gov. Patrick, is blaming the surge there on black people, a particularly strange assertion in a state where less than half of the white people have received even a single dose and where, until recently, they'd been blaming it on illegal immigrants.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, while black people are lagging a little behind white people in vaccination rates, a higher proportion of white people say they definitely will not get the vaccine. And given that white people account for 57% of the unvaccinated, its a little disingenuous to try to lay the blame for the current surge on black people.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

Mixed messaging doesn't help, for sure, but things change so rapidly with Covid, sometimes there's not much can be done. Politicians will always want to paint the best or worst picture, depending on whether they're in power or not. Public health officials and agencies often have to wait and see what happens with the trends before they can issue educated, properly informed advice or analysis. Federal officials are looking at the whole picture. Mayors are concerned that parents are flipping out because another surge is growing just as they were about to roll out the plans to bring local kids back to school.

"Cover up is probably wrong way to say it the investigation of a none event showed up nothing only maybe a few FBI agents were at it ."

I'm assuming this refers to the Michigan kidnappinig case. What has that got to do with Jan 6 which you claimed yesterday was cover up and fake?

Afghanistan - the botched withdrawal is on Biden and his team. The Taliban taking over the country was a predetermined outcome. That aside, you seem to be under the impression that this operation was comparable to a dementia case wandering down to the supermarket and getting lost or forgetting who he was, as if Joe was at the controls of each and every thing that took place. As if the main factor at play here is Biden's cognitive abilities, and not the giant political, intelligence and military apparatus that has to function capably to get things done at this scale. The (presumably) intelligence and/or political failures will be investigated. I seriously doubt that Biden's cognitive abilities will be found to have any bearing whatsoever on what happened.

[RedHand88]

Tony has waded in....

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/afghanistan-tony-blair-slams-imbecilic-military-pullout-and-says-crisis-risks-relegating-uk-to-second-division-of-global-powers-12387017

[Milltown Row2]

Afghanistan is all on Joe? Close the thread or topic on that. I thought Irish politics was blinkered

The withdrawal debacle is all on Joe....100%!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/biden-wanted-to-leave-afghanistan-he-knew-the-risks-11629214842

"WASHINGTON—In his Monday speech defending America's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden said he would not shrink from his share of responsibility.

That would include his decision to bring home U.S. troops, which was made against the recommendations of his top military generals and many diplomats, who warned that a hasty withdrawal would undermine security in Afghanistan, several administration and defense officials said."

So which president would have not had a withdrawal disaster? Korea and Vietnam I'd say weren't great withdrawal's, and no doubt whoever overseen that was a total tool also. 

There is no easy withdrawal from those places, the wisest thing to do is not enter them in the first place.

[Gmac]

Afghanistan is all on Joe? Close the thread or topic on that. I thought Irish politics was blinkered

the disaster of a withdrawal is all on him, well that's what he says