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« Reply #21915 on: July 28, 2021, 12:07:47 AM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
« Last Edit: July 28, 2021, 12:13:29 AM by J70 »

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« Reply #21916 on: July 28, 2021, 12:28:57 AM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

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« Reply #21917 on: July 28, 2021, 01:59:43 AM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

Are you going to provide a source for this latest “claim”?

I’m interested in hearing about it, especially seeing as the scientist in question died a couple of years ago.

A source for your immigration claim would be handy too.

And BTW, not that I really give a bollocks (so fire away if you really think it helps your “argument”), but I’m not sure why you’re trying to mock me for apparently being a paranoid zealot when it comes to Covid. I’ve expressed no such opinions. And as it happens, I’ve been back in the office for a year now, and very frequently take the NY subways and buses. Pointing out the complete moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and outright deceit on the right when it comes to covid is not extremism. It’s factualism.
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« Reply #21918 on: July 28, 2021, 02:41:39 AM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

Are you going to provide a source for this latest “claim”?

I’m interested in hearing about it, especially seeing as the scientist in question died a couple of years ago.

A source for your immigration claim would be handy too.

And BTW, not that I really give a bollocks (so fire away if you really think it helps your “argument”), but I’m not sure why you’re trying to mock me for apparently being a paranoid zealot when it comes to Covid. I’ve expressed no such opinions. And as it happens, I’ve been back in the office for a year now, and very frequently take the NY subways and buses. Pointing out the complete moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and outright deceit on the right when it comes to covid is not extremism. It’s factualism.
he said they were not reliable and could find any kind of virus in anyone at any level , he also said before he died and before this man got famous that fauci was a complete bullshitter and was a liar
You talk about a church with a few hundred people going there and say these people and their like are a huge problem but ignore a catastrophe that’s going on at the southern border where immigrants positive for covid are being shipped around the country.
Check out rio grande valley in Texas and la county do you think many land there ?

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« Reply #21919 on: July 28, 2021, 11:32:14 AM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

Are you going to provide a source for this latest “claim”?

I’m interested in hearing about it, especially seeing as the scientist in question died a couple of years ago.

A source for your immigration claim would be handy too.

And BTW, not that I really give a bollocks (so fire away if you really think it helps your “argument”), but I’m not sure why you’re trying to mock me for apparently being a paranoid zealot when it comes to Covid. I’ve expressed no such opinions. And as it happens, I’ve been back in the office for a year now, and very frequently take the NY subways and buses. Pointing out the complete moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and outright deceit on the right when it comes to covid is not extremism. It’s factualism.
he said they were not reliable and could find any kind of virus in anyone at any level , he also said before he died and before this man got famous that fauci was a complete bullshitter and was a liar
You talk about a church with a few hundred people going there and say these people and their like are a huge problem but ignore a catastrophe that’s going on at the southern border where immigrants positive for covid are being shipped around the country.
Check out rio grande valley in Texas and la county do you think many land there ?

I call bullshit on your claims unless you, for once in your life, produce some sources for your information. Its not hard. It took me all of 30 seconds on Google to find out that Kary Mullis died in 2019 and so could not have "said it didn’t work properly for covid". Now you're piling more shite on your mountain of bullshit with your claims that PCR tests can't "find any kind of virus in anyone at any level". Either put the evidence up, or stop spreading misinformation about something you clearly know f**k all about.

The church is emblematic of what is going on across the US right wing. They're away in la la land when it comes to Covid and the vaccines, when it comes to the election, and when it comes to the cult of personality that is now their defining characteristic and litmus test for membership.

And back to the sources - please provide some for your claims on the border.

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« Reply #21920 on: July 28, 2021, 06:49:12 PM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

Are you going to provide a source for this latest “claim”?

I’m interested in hearing about it, especially seeing as the scientist in question died a couple of years ago.

A source for your immigration claim would be handy too.

And BTW, not that I really give a bollocks (so fire away if you really think it helps your “argument”), but I’m not sure why you’re trying to mock me for apparently being a paranoid zealot when it comes to Covid. I’ve expressed no such opinions. And as it happens, I’ve been back in the office for a year now, and very frequently take the NY subways and buses. Pointing out the complete moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and outright deceit on the right when it comes to covid is not extremism. It’s factualism.
he said they were not reliable and could find any kind of virus in anyone at any level , he also said before he died and before this man got famous that fauci was a complete bullshitter and was a liar
You talk about a church with a few hundred people going there and say these people and their like are a huge problem but ignore a catastrophe that’s going on at the southern border where immigrants positive for covid are being shipped around the country.
Check out rio grande valley in Texas and la county do you think many land there ?

I call bullshit on your claims unless you, for once in your life, produce some sources for your information. Its not hard. It took me all of 30 seconds on Google to find out that Kary Mullis died in 2019 and so could not have "said it didn’t work properly for covid". Now you're piling more shite on your mountain of bullshit with your claims that PCR tests can't "find any kind of virus in anyone at any level". Either put the evidence up, or stop spreading misinformation about something you clearly know f**k all about.

The church is emblematic of what is going on across the US right wing. They're away in la la land when it comes to Covid and the vaccines, when it comes to the election, and when it comes to the cult of personality that is now their defining characteristic and litmus test for membership.

And back to the sources - please provide some for your claims on the border.
your right this church is way more dangerous than the border situation.

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #21921 on: July 28, 2021, 07:06:48 PM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

Are you going to provide a source for this latest “claim”?

I’m interested in hearing about it, especially seeing as the scientist in question died a couple of years ago.

A source for your immigration claim would be handy too.

And BTW, not that I really give a bollocks (so fire away if you really think it helps your “argument”), but I’m not sure why you’re trying to mock me for apparently being a paranoid zealot when it comes to Covid. I’ve expressed no such opinions. And as it happens, I’ve been back in the office for a year now, and very frequently take the NY subways and buses. Pointing out the complete moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and outright deceit on the right when it comes to covid is not extremism. It’s factualism.
he said they were not reliable and could find any kind of virus in anyone at any level , he also said before he died and before this man got famous that fauci was a complete bullshitter and was a liar
You talk about a church with a few hundred people going there and say these people and their like are a huge problem but ignore a catastrophe that’s going on at the southern border where immigrants positive for covid are being shipped around the country.
Check out rio grande valley in Texas and la county do you think many land there ?

I call bullshit on your claims unless you, for once in your life, produce some sources for your information. Its not hard. It took me all of 30 seconds on Google to find out that Kary Mullis died in 2019 and so could not have "said it didn’t work properly for covid". Now you're piling more shite on your mountain of bullshit with your claims that PCR tests can't "find any kind of virus in anyone at any level". Either put the evidence up, or stop spreading misinformation about something you clearly know f**k all about.

The church is emblematic of what is going on across the US right wing. They're away in la la land when it comes to Covid and the vaccines, when it comes to the election, and when it comes to the cult of personality that is now their defining characteristic and litmus test for membership.

And back to the sources - please provide some for your claims on the border.
your right this church is way more dangerous than the border situation.

That’s it?

1. I did not say that. The border could be a complete mess (still waiting on links to back up your claims though) at the same time that the conservative movement and the GOP has degenerated into an irrational, authoritarian personality cult.

2. I’ll take your ignoring of the other parts as a tacit admission that you were talking through your hole on covid and PCR testing.

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« Reply #21922 on: July 28, 2021, 09:27:39 PM »
How long until we hear about THIS fuckwit getting seriously ill and his "church" having an outbreak among his congregation?

No doubt his stance (assuming its real - wouldn't surprise me, to be honest, if he HAS been vaccinated) is mostly about donations and getting fame on Fox News and the like.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/

Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’

Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.

This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.

If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.

“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.

Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.

Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.

The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.

In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.

“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.

Locke’s evangelical church in Mt. Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.

During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.

He has also falsely claimed that the pandemic is “fake,” that the death count is “manipulated” and that the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”


And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming that it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”

During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.

“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.

Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.

“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”

Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.


“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.

“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”

He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.

Tennessee resumes most vaccine outreach to minors paused after GOP backlash

“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”

Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.

“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”
but your fine with illegal immigrants walking straight through the southern border from all sorts of countries who could be carrying covid or tb or a multiple of sicknesses with them , selective outrage as usual and the other clown hoping they die such a nice guy

Where have I said I’m fine with illegal immigrants walking in uncontrolled?

No comment on the actual article and the general right wing idiocy which is going to drop us right back into masking and maybe even shutdowns?

Did you figure out yet where you heard about the supposed bogus PCR test?
50k plus have been released into the country and 13%!have shown up to first immigration hearing. The guy who invented the pcr test said it didn’t work properly for covid but you know better than him , keep on showering with your mask on

Are you going to provide a source for this latest “claim”?

I’m interested in hearing about it, especially seeing as the scientist in question died a couple of years ago.

A source for your immigration claim would be handy too.

And BTW, not that I really give a bollocks (so fire away if you really think it helps your “argument”), but I’m not sure why you’re trying to mock me for apparently being a paranoid zealot when it comes to Covid. I’ve expressed no such opinions. And as it happens, I’ve been back in the office for a year now, and very frequently take the NY subways and buses. Pointing out the complete moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and outright deceit on the right when it comes to covid is not extremism. It’s factualism.
he said they were not reliable and could find any kind of virus in anyone at any level , he also said before he died and before this man got famous that fauci was a complete bullshitter and was a liar
You talk about a church with a few hundred people going there and say these people and their like are a huge problem but ignore a catastrophe that’s going on at the southern border where immigrants positive for covid are being shipped around the country.
Check out rio grande valley in Texas and la county do you think many land there ?

I call bullshit on your claims unless you, for once in your life, produce some sources for your information. Its not hard. It took me all of 30 seconds on Google to find out that Kary Mullis died in 2019 and so could not have "said it didn’t work properly for covid". Now you're piling more shite on your mountain of bullshit with your claims that PCR tests can't "find any kind of virus in anyone at any level". Either put the evidence up, or stop spreading misinformation about something you clearly know f**k all about.

The church is emblematic of what is going on across the US right wing. They're away in la la land when it comes to Covid and the vaccines, when it comes to the election, and when it comes to the cult of personality that is now their defining characteristic and litmus test for membership.

And back to the sources - please provide some for your claims on the border.
your right this church is way more dangerous than the border situation.

That’s it?

1. I did not say that. The border could be a complete mess (still waiting on links to back up your claims though) at the same time that the conservative movement and the GOP has degenerated into an irrational, authoritarian personality cult.

2. I’ll take your ignoring of the other parts as a tacit admission that you were talking through your hole on covid and PCR testing.
I don’t bother with extremists like you anymore , waste of my time .

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« Reply #21923 on: July 28, 2021, 11:16:44 PM »
yeah - you sure are ignoring him lol

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« Reply #21924 on: July 28, 2021, 11:39:11 PM »
What do you lads get out of this? Does it make you happy?

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« Reply #21925 on: July 29, 2021, 07:58:17 AM »
why do you care? does it make you happy?

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« Reply #21926 on: July 29, 2021, 12:09:24 PM »
What do you lads get out of this? Does it make you happy?

It doesn't make me unhappy! :)

More seriously, do you think people spreading utter nonsense, including on something as important as covid, should be allowed to unchallenged, even if its just in our tiny corner of the internet? You seem to think otherwise on the covid thread.

We have a decent enough discussion board here, for the most part. Standard of debate and discussion is vital to that, which means lies and bullshit need to be called out.

Sensible people can differ on economics or moral or religious issues or whatever. There has to be a line though when it comes to spreading patently false misinformation.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2021, 12:13:43 PM by J70 »

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« Reply #21927 on: August 03, 2021, 12:06:37 AM »
Afghanistan going well for the Yanks and Brits.

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« Reply #21928 on: August 04, 2021, 02:52:35 AM »
Joe Biden’s cdc now tell people what to do with their private property?
Has cuomo been arrested yet for his years of crimes against women and the elderly

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« Reply #21929 on: August 05, 2021, 09:55:29 PM »
Joe Biden’s cdc now tell people what to do with their private property?
Has cuomo been arrested yet for his years of crimes against women and the elderly

1. The original eviction moratorium happened under Trump. Were you crying about it then? (we all know the answer to that). Note: I haven’t commented on the rule/order either way; just highlighting more bullshit from you.

2. Cuomo is done. He’s not surviving this. Unlike the right, the Dems have at least SOME expectations of behaviour from their representatives. You keep on pointing to Cuomo while never uttering a word in opposition to your Dear Orange Leader and your fellow cultists.