Down Club Hurling & Football

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NP 76

There was a discussion on that Thomas to have it run off by start of the new year and the Hogan final to be played on March 17th. This would give the lads plenty of time to join up with the county teams. Whether or not it goes through is another thing. You know yourself how hard it is to make change

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Down Follower

Quote from: SamFever on November 06, 2014, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: NP 76 on November 06, 2014, 07:52:32 AM
There was a discussion on that Thomas to have it run off by start of the new year and the Hogan final to be played on March 17th. This would give the lads plenty of time to join up with the county teams. Whether or not it goes through is another thing. You know yourself how hard it is to make change
It's only college players who can get on Down Minors these days.
Go back to 1999 and 2005  teams and see the make-up of those teams-not too
many profesionals today. Good honest players and just a few fancy dans. Only Garvey
playing now-shame.

True but you had Brendan Grant, Mark Doran, Liam Doyle, Benny, Mickey Walsh, Ronan Murtagh and Ronan Sexton who all came through from the 99 team to play senior county football for a considerable time.
05 team probably produced less players for a prolonged period such as Kevin McKernan and Conor Garvey.  But it did produce a number of players who played for a short time but made a significant impact in that time i.e. Martin Clarke, James Colgan, Peter Fitzpatrick and Paul McComiskey.

Between the two teams there were a number of other players who could/should have made an impact, Ciaran Brannigan, Kevin Duffin, Jamie O'reilly etc.

Centre 3/4

This isn't a problem in donegal or tyrone to anywhere near the same extent, who have both been far more successful than down minors recently

Shamrocks Gaelp

Great  to hear about Marty Clarke 'willing to putting his body on the line for the county' according to the Independent

charlieTully

Quote from: Shamrocks Gaelp on November 08, 2014, 10:31:32 PM
Great  to hear about Marty Clarke 'willing to putting his body on the line for the county' according to the Independent

Could you provide a link if possible please?

PAULD123

http://www.hoganstand.com/Down/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=227264

Good news indeed. Now all we need is McComiskey back.

a forward line with Clarke, McComiskey, Mooney, Laverty will give us a much more incisive look than the last few years. There will debates about who else should be in there - Connor Maginn for work rate, Poland for passing ability, Ambrose for strength, Madine as a hit-man, the Johnstons & Devlin for the future, one last throw for Benny?

Nailer

It is just as well the Co Board delegates in Down aren't as unforgiving as the Tyrone Co. Board or Shane Mullholland would most likely be relieved of his job as Manager of the County minor team.
Micky Donnelly just survived as manager of Tyrone minors for another year when they couldn't get a two thirds majority to oust him, and this after they gave Down a right hiding in Omagh in the first round of the Ulster championship.

speculative

How can you say there's been an over reliance on Colleges players? In 2010 when St Colmans won the MacRory I think there were only 3 players on the Down minor team 2009. Same in 2011. If you're gonna come out with statements like that you may need to back them up. My experience was that Colleges players from Abbey and Violet Hill were actually passed up for fellas that had been there from the start. For example, in 2008 not one player who played MacRory Cup started in the game v Tyrone.

Mike Tyson

Quote from: speculative on November 10, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
How can you say there's been an over reliance on Colleges players? In 2010 when St Colmans won the MacRory I think there were only 3 players on the Down minor team 2009. Same in 2011. If you're gonna come out with statements like that you may need to back them up. My experience was that Colleges players from Abbey and Violet Hill were actually passed up for fellas that had been there from the start. For example, in 2008 not one player who played MacRory Cup started in the game v Tyrone.

Michael Higgins & Ben O'Reilly both played MacRory for St Louis did they not?

Corner Forward

Quote from: Nailer on November 09, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
It is just as well the Co Board delegates in Down aren't as unforgiving as the Tyrone Co. Board or Shane Mullholland would most likely be relieved of his job as Manager of the County minor team.
Micky Donnelly just survived as manager of Tyrone minors for another year when they couldn't get a two thirds majority to oust him, and this after they gave Down a right hiding in Omagh in the first round of the Ulster championship.


Dont think the Micky Donnelly situation was purely due to results

SamFever

Quote from: Corner Forward on November 11, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
Quote from: Nailer on November 09, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
It is just as well the Co Board delegates in Down aren't as unforgiving as the Tyrone Co. Board or Shane Mullholland would most likely be relieved of his job as Manager of the County minor team.
Micky Donnelly just survived as manager of Tyrone minors for another year when they couldn't get a two thirds majority to oust him, and this after they gave Down a right hiding in Omagh in the first round of the Ulster championship.


Dont think the Micky Donnelly situation was purely due to results
Care to fill us in?

NP 76

I see on Facebook kilcoo have announced Paul Mc ilver as their new manager and Declan Morgan as the team trainer

Corner Forward

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Quote from: SamFever on November 11, 2014, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: Corner Forward on November 11, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
Quote from: Nailer on November 09, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
It is just as well the Co Board delegates in Down aren't as unforgiving as the Tyrone Co. Board or Shane Mullholland would most likely be relieved of his job as Manager of the County minor team.
Micky Donnelly just survived as manager of Tyrone minors for another year when they couldn't get a two thirds majority to oust him, and this after they gave Down a right hiding in Omagh in the first round of the Ulster championship.


Dont think the Micky Donnelly situation was purely due to results
Care to fill us in?

Was chatting to a guy in work after the tyrone game- he mentioned that there had been questions raised over his team selection with the feeling among a lot of tyrone supporters that some stronger players were being overlooked and that a certain amount of favouritism had been shown. Some felt that there were better options than him for manager. I personally dont know Micky or his background in gaelic games but i got the impression that support for him was divided from the start.

SamFever

Quote from: Corner Forward on November 11, 2014, 01:35:40 PM
Quote from: SamFever on November 11, 2014, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: Corner Forward on November 11, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
Quote from: Nailer on November 09, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
It is just as well the Co Board delegates in Down aren't as unforgiving as the Tyrone Co. Board or Shane Mullholland would most likely be relieved of his job as Manager of the County minor team.
Micky Donnelly just survived as manager of Tyrone minors for another year when they couldn't get a two thirds majority to oust him, and this after they gave Down a right hiding in Omagh in the first round of the Ulster championship.


Dont think the Micky Donnelly situation was purely due to results
Care to fill us in?

Was chatting to a guy in work after the tyrone game- he mentioned that there had been questions raised over his team selection with the feeling among a lot of tyrone supporters that some stronger players were being overlooked and that a certain amount of favouritism had been shown. Some felt that there were better options than him for manager. I personally dont know Micky or his background in gaelic games but i got the impression that support for him was divided from the start.
Thanks for that.